(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[4500]OT[3x30 byo-yomi]
GN[European Go Cup Brno 2012]PW[Csaba Mero]PB[Jan Simara]WR[6d]BR[6d]DT[2012-09-08]EV[European Go Cup Brno 2012]RO[4]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Pulcik]
;B[pd]
;W[dc]
;B[pp]
;W[dp]
;B[de]
;W[fc]
;B[cc]
;W[cb]
;B[cd]
;W[bb]
;B[ch]
;W[qj]
;B[ql]
;W[qg]
;B[qe]
;W[oj]
;B[pi]
;W[pj]
;B[ol]
;W[nc]
;B[nd]
;W[md]
;B[ne]
;W[pc]
;B[qc]
;W[oc]
;B[qb]
;W[me]
;B[mf]
;W[nf]
;B[lf]
;W[lc]
;B[lj]
;W[ng]
;B[kd]
;W[jb]
;B[mh]
;W[re]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: niec tesuji
ganuong [4d\]: r14 q13 o12 cut
Sweet [3d\]: r14 q14
]
;B[qf]C[nightwolf [9k\]: whos this csaba mero? anyone know?
Uberdude [3d?\]: yes
wojtek85 [-\]: go player
Uberdude [3d?\]: he is csaba
pok [2k\]: http://www.europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/createalleuro3.php?country=**&dgob=false
Uberdude [3d?\]: from hungary
]
;W[od]C[pok [2k\]: 12 eupean player
pok [2k\]: 12th
Zickkun [3k\]: who is the favorite in this tonoment?
Brno2012EC [-\]: pairing of 4th round: http://ivan.kostka.sweb.cz/Brno2012/pair4.txt
nightwolf [9k\]: ah okay. 
Uberdude [3d?\]: csaba, ondrej, jan, all similar level
nightwolf [9k\]: yeah but im rooting for jan since hes the only one i know from this pairing
Brno2012EC [-\]: Results after 3 rounds: https://sites.google.com/site/govbrne/news/results 
ganuong [4d\]: b have to give up two stone
Zickkun [3k\]: am I reading this right?  after black P15, N18 becomes a threat
]
;B[rg]
;W[pe]
;B[qd]C[Zickkun [3k\]: nvm
]
;W[qh]
;B[rh]C[pok [2k\]: b didn't play p15 so ^^
]
;W[ri]
;B[pg]C[Alpaca [1d\]: is there live feed oder nicht?
]
;W[ph]
;B[oh]
;W[qi]
;B[rf]C[Zickkun [3k\]: the black's influence something a high level player should be aware of?
KenPruitt [11k\]: Oh yeah.
bsam [9k\]: jan was the european champ this year wasn't he?
KenPruitt [11k\]: B has got some SERIOUS influence. I don't know why B isn't capitalizing on it. He could make one hell of a moyo out of it.
Uberdude [3d?\]: where?
Uberdude [3d?\]: b influence nothing amazing
whuang [3d\]: After he beat Ilya, but that was quite a suprise
bsam [9k\]: ilya? then he must be strong
pok [2k\]: w must make r10 live first of all
pok [2k\]: p11 makes o12/s9 miai for living
Zickkun [3k\]: I would just P11, cuz it looks like an eye
]
;W[nh]C[Zickkun [3k\]: but nvm O12 is better
Zickkun [3k\]: w is completely alive to me
pok [2k\]: looks like if 6d plays it :)
]
;B[fq]
;W[hq]C[Zickkun [3k\]: and w group strong
Uberdude [3d?\]: p8 at r6 would be better now perhaps
kmr [1k\]: wow white played h3 very quickly
Uberdude [3d?\]: he wants to prevent b lower side moyo
Uberdude [3d?\]: i dont think b should go incorner
]
;B[fo]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: this might be a time for jump
Uberdude [3d?\]: and press
]
;W[dn]
;B[kp]C[Illyria [?\]: woah, l4?
Uberdude [3d?\]: fancy
]
;W[ho]
;B[ip]C[Zickkun [3k\]: I don't understand any moves, not until my stones are about to be captured
]
;W[io]C[Zickkun [3k\]: wow
]
;B[dq]
;W[cq]
;B[ep]
;W[dr]C[Egg [10k\]: d5 
]
;B[do]
;W[eq]C[Zickkun [3k\]: c5 i suppose
]
;B[cp]
;W[dq]
;B[cn]
;W[fr]
;B[pq]C[freffenber [1k\]: c7 or f15 now
]
;W[jp]C[freffenber [1k\]: oh
]
;B[jq]
;W[jo]
;B[iq]
;W[hp]
;B[lp]
;W[ln]C[Cunning [3k\]: d7
]
;B[on]
;W[cm]
;B[dm]
;W[bn]C[tildebis [-\]: B can play something else than E6?
]
;B[en]
;W[bo]
;B[co]
;W[bp]
;B[cl]
;W[bm]
;B[ik]C[LH [3k\]: whoa
LH [3k\]: quite high
Uberdude [3d?\]: noce feeling
lucifer3 [2k\]: why not first attack the upper white group for moyo then come for bottom?
Uberdude [3d?\]: w f15 ,aybe
]
;W[dl]
;B[el]
;W[dk]
;B[ck]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: you cant attack alive groups
Dragoness [-\]: xD
]
;W[ek]
;B[cj]
;W[fl]
;B[em]C[Visitron: is it just me or the black shape seems under more pressure
lucifer3 [2k\]: i mean like q16 or something
Uberdude [3d?\]: q16?
]
;W[gk]C[lucifer3 [2k\]: some push  from above
Uberdude [3d?\]: q16 is a block stone
atlatl [2d?\]: shut up
lucifer3 [2k\]: you do not need follow the comments
atlatl [2d?\]: use brain
]
;B[gn]C[bigstar [6k\]: g7?
]
;W[hi]C[Visitron: g6 is better to protect what's left
klabauter [2d\]: peep?
bsam [9k\]: f10 or what?
klabauter [2d\]: yes
]
;B[ii]
;W[eg]
;B[dg]C[ganuong [4d\]: b win for sure
]
;W[ih]C[ganuong [4d\]: no weak group
]
;B[hh]
;W[ig]C[Visitron: just might, but, there's still room for a lot
klabauter [2d\]: m14 stones not completely stabel...
bigstar [6k\]: b must m12 soon?
]
;B[ji]C[ganuong [4d\]: no need
]
;W[gi]
;B[hg]C[Visitron: p15 would give white some room
klabauter [2d\]: p15 is still selfatari...
MrEmDash [-\]: lol
bigstar [6k\]: hane doesn't work?
Visitron: why doesn't p15 work? i'm kinda of new
RobertT [-\]: empty triangle
]
;W[di]
;B[if]
;W[ci]
;B[bi]
;W[bj]C[Visitron: then p14 p11?
Visitron: or
Visitron: for white i mean
]
;B[bh]C[klabauter [2d\]: b p15 -->w p14 so no sense. Also w p15 helps nothing as b cant do a thing there...
F525 [2k\]: Is it just me or is W behind?
]
;W[bk]
;B[ic]C[Visitron: yes, it had an advantage before, but black caught up
MrEmDash [-\]: how do you know? o.o
RobertT [-\]: b was always ahead
sfh: b aiming e12
F525 [2k\]: I counted points.
F525 [2k\]: Also, B B12 to prevent J13 resurrecting, or was there something else W could do?
F525 [2k\]: I.e., why didn't B play B9?
]
;W[rk]
;B[rl]C[RobertT [-\]: he didnt want to die
F525 [2k\]: Yeah but what's the sequence? :(
]
;W[hf]
;B[he]
;W[gf]
;B[jg]
;W[ie]
;B[jf]C[klabauter [2d\]: b12 and c14 should've played a role there
klabauter [2d\]: (too lazy for sequences)
a2345678 [12k\]: klabauter
flobby [3k\]: b leading?
a2345678 [12k\]: strange name
Cunning [3k\]: hehe
a2345678 [12k\]: i think so
klabauter [2d\]: your name seems more strange to me  ;)
RobertT [-\]: just b12, extend then monkey jump connect
a2345678 [12k\]: robert
a2345678 [12k\]: are you strong?
a2345678 [12k\]: i am 8k
RobertT [-\]: no
a2345678 [12k\]: oh
a2345678 [12k\]: how good?
nightwolf [9k\]: O.O
flobby [3k\]: robert lost to 18kyu by 10 points
]
;W[hr]C[RobertT [-\]: I'm very weak
flobby [3k\]: on tygem
nightwolf [9k\]: hes 30k
a2345678 [12k\]: oh
]
;B[mo]
;W[jr]C[Dupaaxe [?\]: lol
]
;B[kr]
;W[ir]
;B[kq]C[F525 [2k\]: Can't get the monkey jump to work. D=
]
;W[dd]C[MrEmDash [-\]: Robert very sad :(
]
;B[be]C[flobby [3k\]: dash changing ur rank from 1k to [-\] doesn't make you "not a 1k anymore" =/
klabauter [2d\]: simara has a very patient style. that makes him so strong i think
MrEmDash [-\]: :S
klabauter [2d\]: btw thwe average [-\] rank is 6p
]
;W[bc]
;B[ef]
;W[bd]
;B[ce]C[RobertT [-\]: should be 9p but I throw it off being 26k
MrEmDash [-\]: >:)
MrEmDash [-\]: Robert being a 26k is a lie
]
;W[nm]C[MrEmDash [-\]: he was recently promoted to 25k
flobby [3k\]: robert is so weak his rank is just a minus sign
MrEmDash [-\]: lol
Dupaaxe [?\]: hm .. some filosofy in that "throw it off" thing
Dupaaxe [?\]: Some deep one
]
;B[mn]C[SuvorovAl [-\]: looks very close
Cunning [3k\]: looks b ahead
Cunning [3k\]: b has nice yose moves in sente
invader [1d\]: b ahead , pretty much
]
;W[ll]C[Sweet [4d\]: b ahead  :)
]
;B[lm]
;W[pl]
;B[pm]
;W[sl]
;B[sm]
;W[sk]
;B[qm]
;W[pf]C[Cunning [3k\]: o19 getting large
tildebis [-\]: Iprefer P19
Cunning [3k\]: and h16
klabauter [2d\]: w has no success in making the game complicated
Coreon [1d?\]: L1 too
tildebis [-\]: L1 is W move
Cunning [3k\]: L1 gote for b
klabauter [2d\]: j18 bigger than o19?
Coreon [1d?\]: no it may be reverse sente
SuvorovAl [-\]: l7  for b
Cunning [3k\]: only 5 point reverse sente
Cunning [3k\]: there are bigger move
Cunning [3k\]: s
klabauter [2d\]: o9?
Coreon [1d?\]: well well maybe you should read an endgame book :-P
]
;B[nk]C[Cunning [3k\]: i'd play j18 maybe
Cunning [3k\]: i have
tildebis [-\]: P19 G15 K17 for B
tildebis [-\]: ?
RobertT [-\]: ni
]
;W[fm]
;B[fn]
;W[gq]
;B[jm]C[monk316 [3k\]: b is champion of europe?
ix7 [3k?\]: yep
monk316 [3k\]: nice
Vandalis [-\]: h7
Minjhou [11k?\]: *is b champ...?
]
;W[fp]C[monk316 [3k\]: yes, i think so
wojtek85 [-\]: yes
Cunning [3k\]: h7
]
;B[hm]C[Vandalis [-\]: better for black, got k7, isn'it ?
]
;W[eo]C[ix7 [3k?\]: black won this year at the European Go Congress
]
;B[kn]C[ix7 [3k?\]: so he's European Champ this year, that's true ^^
]
;W[pb]
;B[hd]
;W[jc]
;B[jd]C[Vandalis [-\]: against who ?
bsam [9k\]: Ilya Shishkin
klabauter [2d\]: i m not sure b is that solidly ahead..
bhg47f: w is taking forever
Cunning [3k\]: i am
]
;W[dn]C[Cunning [3k\]: a10 sente
Cunning [3k\]: at least almost
Ootakamoku [-\]: there was a game from finnish championships qualifiers broadcast earlier today here on kgs. anyone know by what account it was broadcast?
]
;B[fg]C[Werfeus [4d\]: sm2012a
Ootakamoku [-\]: thx
]
;W[qa]
;B[ra]
;W[pa]
;B[rb]
;W[ks]
;B[ls]
;W[js]
;B[lr]C[Coreon [1d?\]: see, reverse sente :-P
Dupaaxe [?\]: B 3-4 points ahead ?
klabauter [2d\]: l1 was bigger than q19 no?
F525 [2k\]: What's the komi?
Nilatarion [3d\]: 6,5
klabauter [2d\]: 6.5
monk316 [3k\]: should w try to save g14?
klabauter [2d\]: i think w will safe it
monk316 [3k\]: around h18 seems better 
]
;W[hb]
;B[gb]
;W[ib]
;B[gc]
;W[fb]
;B[fa]
;W[ea]
;B[ga]
;W[fd]
;B[gd]
;W[fe]C[Minjhou [11k?\]: and g14 saved :-)
SuvorovAl [-\]: f15 ?
ix7 [3k?\]: g14 could have connected all the time already (just G13)
SuvorovAl [-\]: oh i see
]
;B[ei]
;W[dj]
;B[eh]
;W[mi]
;B[li]
;W[mj]
;B[mk]
;W[il]
;B[im]
;W[hl]
;B[jl]
;W[hk]
;B[hj]
;W[gj]
;B[ij]
;W[mg]
;B[lg]
;W[lh]
;B[kh]
;W[gm]
;B[hn]
;W[gg]
;B[jh]C[ikill12 [1k\]: w needs a perfect yose to win
]
;W[ko]
;B[lo]
;W[le]
;B[ke]C[Brno2012EC [-\]: w in byoyomi (3x30s), b 9 minutes left
]
;W[ej]
;B[ha]
;W[kc]
;B[ld]C[klabauter [2d\]: SE has w ahead
]
;W[oe]
;B[nj]
;W[ni]C[Minjhou [11k?\]: we'll see
]
;B[gh]
;W[fi]
;B[ff]
;W[ge]
;B[eb]
;W[da]
;B[ed]
;W[ec]
;B[ee]
;W[db]C[lucifer3 [2k\]: nice
huhu123 [10k\]: se +0,5
gacua [1k\]: Q9;)
ix7 [3k?\]: a16
clunker [6k\]: b wins
]
;B[ad]C[intruder [1k\]: b+1.5
]
;W[ac]
;B[ae]
;W[pk]
;B[si]C[GoManiac [10k?\]: why do i always join these games when they are basically over :(
]
;W[sj]
;B[sh]
;W[qk]C[fato5 [19k\]: its a sign
ix7 [3k?\]: because you probably don't live in Europe.
GoManiac [10k?\]: i dont :O
SuvorovAl [-\]: q9 mistake?
Minjhou [11k?\]: or you have bad aji
ix7 [3k?\]: you see ^^
GoManiac [10k?\]: ehh id say my aji is decent
ix7 [3k?\]: a10
Minjhou [11k?\]: :D
]
;B[ia]
;W[ok]C[Sukudo [-\]: well i have the same problem as gomaniac but i live in europe
lucifer3 [2k\]: yose is over
]
;B[om]C[ix7 [3k?\]: well, Sukudo... you should get up earlier
ix7 [3k?\]: your sleeping rhythm is bad!
]
;W[ja]C[Sukudo [-\]: i dont have a sleeping rhythm
]
;B[aj]
;W[ak]
;B[ai]C[ix7 [3k?\]: tht's what i mean :P
]
;W[go]
;B[mh]C[Divide [6d\]: which tournament is this?
ix7 [3k?\]: Brno European Go Cup
]
;W[dh]
;B[fh]
;W[lh]C[monk316 [3k\]: b has only 2 ko threats
ix7 [3k?\]: f9
fato5 [19k\]: is t14 a threat
]
;B[jn]C[fato5 [19k\]: 4 w
ix7 [3k?\]: no
]
;W[mh]
;B[id]C[ix7 [3k?\]: b has also N18
ix7 [3k?\]: ah
turbonerd [5k\]: p11
ix7 [3k?\]: over
ix7 [3k?\]: ^^
]
;W[hc]
;B[in]C[turbonerd [5k\]: a threat
sidebar: okay guys... its over
Sukudo [-\]: h17 would have been better for b
Totoshi [10k\]: and a8 or b8
ix7 [3k?\]: b won anyway
Brno2012EC [-\]: B+3,5
ix7 [3k?\]: thanks!
ix7 [3k?\]: :)
ix7 [3k?\]: Brno ^^
Kazuraki [14k?\]: thx
Brno2012EC [-\]: thanks for watching
Brno2012EC [-\]: see you tomorrow
Totoshi [10k\]: thx
klabauter [2d\]: thx for scribe
])