(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[3x30 byo-yomi]
GN[European Women's Go Championship 2012]PW[Laura Avram]PB[Vanessa Wong]WR[2d]BR[5d]DT[2012-09-09]EV[European Women's Go Championship 2012]RO[5]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Pulcik]C[rama27 [6k\]: co se bude prenaset tady?
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;B[pd]
;W[dp]
;B[qp]
;W[dc]
;B[oq]
;W[qj]
;B[de]
;W[ce]
;B[dd]
;W[cd]
;B[ec]
;W[cc]
;B[df]
;W[cg]
;B[qh]
;W[qm]
;B[jd]
;W[nc]
;B[oc]
;W[nd]
;B[pf]
;W[ld]
;B[fd]
;W[jc]
;B[ic]
;W[kc]
;B[ib]
;W[jq]
;B[cn]
;W[fp]
;B[bp]
;W[cq]
;B[ck]
;W[mq]
;B[kf]
;W[mf]
;B[eh]
;W[ch]
;B[lh]
;W[mh]
;B[mi]
;W[nh]
;B[li]
;W[qc]C[Werfeus [4d\]: au bătut-o, Laura!
meh [3k\]: sitting here at 6 am at night, I realize
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;B[pc]C[meh [3k\]: this is the closest thing to a mud wrestling match I'm ever gonna see in my life
Oloril [3k?\]: 6 am is no longer night
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;W[qd]
;B[qe]C[meh [3k\]: it aint morning till the sun rises 1_1
Javaness [3d\]: yay they finally broadcast the women's games
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;W[pb]
;B[ob]C[meh [3k\]: does this really work for w?
Minjhou [11k?\]: why a women specific tourney?
meh [3k\]: it can't
meh [3k\]: unless s18 or something
Oloril [3k?\]: so north of the arctic circle has a night that lasts months?
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;W[re]
;B[rf]C[Werfeus [4d\]: yes
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;W[rb]C[noIQ [3k\]: depends on how far north, but yes
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;B[rd]C[TheThe [8k\]: hm, does that mean that womes are not taking part in other turneys?
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;W[rc]
;B[se]
;W[qa]
;B[pj]C[Welvang [-\]: why separate men and women for go ?
Werfeus [4d\]: the european championships of the ladies
Minjhou [11k?\]: maybe mens can't beat womens
blurb1: no they can take part twice as pistorius just did xD
Welvang [-\]: it does not make sense
Werfeus [4d\]: the other tourney with simara and others... side tournament
meh [3k\]: too much sexual tension
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;W[qk]C[TheThe [8k\]: or are not allowed to
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;B[na]C[kinglao298 [5k\]: cine-i tipa cu care joacă Laura, o chinezoaică naturalizată?
Javaness [3d\]: looks tough for white to handle the two groups
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;W[pa]C[bunyan3 [4k\]: where is the game held/
bunyan3 [4k\]: ?
noIQ [3k\]: they participate, but the women are fewer, thus not that many strong women.
Naphthalin [2d?\]: isn't q19 quite defensive?
meh [3k\]: extremely
EWGC2012 [-\]: Burn, Czechia
EWGC2012 [-\]: Brno*
bunyan3 [4k\]: thx
Naphthalin [2d?\]: lol
msullivan [12k\]: Is the white group L17 alive ?
Naphthalin [2d?\]: no
EWGC2012 [-\]: info s here: https://sites.google.com/site/ewgc2012brno/home
Neriya [6k\]: M18
Naphthalin [2d?\]: p11
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;B[of]C[meh [3k\]: shape point?
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;W[lb]
;B[mc]
;W[nb]
;B[oa]C[kinglao298 [5k\]: copii, lămuriți-mă și pe mine vă rog, cine-i tipa cu care joacă Laura, o chinezoaică naturalizată?
levye [7k\]: is there a live recording for this event ?
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;W[ma]C[BurzoS [2d?\]: e o asiatica ce sta in UK 
noIQ [3k\]: guess not, its not eurogotv that is broadcasting
kinglao298 [5k\]: merci mult
levye [7k\]: thx
BurzoS [2d?\]: si are cetatenie si drept de participare la euro women
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;B[me]C[kinglao298 [5k\]: aha, ok
meh [3k\]: ohhhh this is painful
levye [7k\]: nice cut
meh [3k\]: does it work though?
Naphthalin [2d?\]: i don't like this for b
Naphthalin [2d?\]: l15 cut is there for w
TherapieGo [1k\]: me too
levye [7k\]: n12 captured ?
Naphthalin [2d?\]: and n12 stones don't matter
levye [7k\]: hmm
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;W[md]C[Naphthalin [2d?\]: l15 for w now
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;B[jb]C[Naphthalin [2d?\]: ok, n16 first
meh [3k\]: I like this for b, just asking w questions
alfi [3k\]: p15
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;W[nf]
;B[le]
;W[kb]C[Naphthalin [2d?\]: l15 gone
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;B[ka]C[Javaness [3d\]: snif
Naphthalin [2d?\]: now i like the result for b
Minjhou [11k?\]: 2d vs 5d...
Naphthalin [2d?\]: o14 was questionable for me
Naphthalin [2d?\]: at least
Meto [2d\]: i think w can life
Naphthalin [2d?\]: with m14?
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;W[ne]
;B[lf]C[Naphthalin [2d?\]: oh no
Naphthalin [2d?\]: why o15?
Oloril [3k?\]: m14 is an excellent rifle
kinglao298 [5k\]: lol
morbidus [1d\]: Laura Palmer is dead
Naphthalin [2d?\]: now w needs p11 stuff#
Naphthalin [2d?\]: and run away
meh [3k\]: painful...
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;W[oi]C[meh [3k\]: p10?
Naphthalin [2d?\]: o11 first
meh [3k\]: ah kk
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;B[oj]C[meh [3k\]: or not
Naphthalin [2d?\]: ok, p10 first :)
meh [3k\]: :D
Neriya [6k\]: p11
meh [3k\]: glad you thought of it
Javaness [3d\]: chance
levye [7k\]: even with life b got huge territory
Naphthalin [2d?\]: o10 for w?
Meto [2d\]: n13 living
TherapieGo [1k\]: P13
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;W[og]C[Naphthalin [2d?\]: ah yes :)
globax [3d\]: alive
invader [1d\]: q12
TherapieGo [1k\]: living now
Naphthalin [2d?\]: sure?
Lothus [2d\]: q12?
Naphthalin [2d?\]: q12 kills it
TherapieGo [1k\]: P11 for B
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;B[pi]C[clydesdale [2k\]: isn't Vanessa Wong 6d now?
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;W[mg]C[meh [3k\]: n13 and run
meh [3k\]: yes
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;B[rn]C[furoncle [2k\]: blood
Naphthalin [2d?\]: why q11 and not q12?
meh [3k\]: b has no fucks to give
Lothus [2d\]: because o10 propably
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;W[om]C[Naphthalin [2d?\]: well, leading anyway
Lothus [2d\]: and p11
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;B[kp]C[meh [3k\]: my apologies
Lothus [2d\]: haha
Naphthalin [2d?\]: :D
meh [3k\]: :P
Javaness [3d\]: white needs to make some powa-counter
meh [3k\]: nice lean
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;W[kn]C[Meto [2d\]: r6
Javaness [3d\]: strong!
furoncle [2k\]: good
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;B[kq]C[Naphthalin [2d?\]: l4 looks a little bit greedy
furoncle [2k\]: violent match
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;W[mo]C[meh [3k\]: I think l4 is just b demanding profit
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;B[jp]C[Naphthalin [2d?\]: when there are women, there will be blood ;)
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;W[iq]C[kinglao298 [5k\]: lol
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;B[ip]
;W[hq]C[meh [3k\]: it's that time of the year...
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;B[mr]C[furoncle [2k\]: b demading a heavy group
kinglao298 [5k\]: lol
clydesdale [2k\]: just look at Lady Macbeth
noIQ [3k\]: ...year? o_O
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;W[kk]C[kinglao298 [5k\]: month...
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;B[nl]C[furoncle [2k\]: mmh w shape is not good
Naphthalin [2d?\]: lol, look at SE
Lothus [2d\]: when you reach 5d you are not woman anymore :P
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;W[nm]
;B[ll]C[noIQ [3k\]: nor man i suppose?
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;W[gi]
;B[mm]
;W[mn]
;B[oo]C[furoncle [2k\]: too painful :/
Lothus [2d\]: inhuman ranking
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;W[on]C[alfi [3k\]: g9 
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;B[jm]C[Naphthalin [2d?\]: the topology of the body doesn't matter on a go board
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;W[rm]
;B[qn]C[kinglao298 [5k\]: r u sure?
noIQ [3k\]: indeed naphta.
Naphthalin [2d?\]: w's moves start to look like random bot moves
Naphthalin [2d?\]: in desperate mode
Oloril [3k?\]: topology of man and women is the same
Lothus [2d\]: bots havent desperate mode
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;W[ol]C[Naphthalin [2d?\]: no oloril, not the same amount of holes
bombur14 [2d\]: but could have
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;B[ej]
;W[gk]
;B[gm]
;W[lg]
;B[kg]C[furoncle [2k\]: resign is near
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;W[je]
;B[ie]
;W[kd]
;B[id]C[alfi [3k\]: h7
noIQ [3k\]: l7 ?
Lothus [2d\]: vanessa is chinese?
sabom [?\]: russian pair on board 2? kovaleva vs kalsberg?
Javaness [3d\]: she is british
Minjhou [11k?\]: *is vane....?
EWGC2012 [-\]: pairing: http://ivan.kostka.sweb.cz/Brno2012/zeny5.txt
furoncle [2k\]: wong doesn't sound so british however
Lothus [2d\]: but wasnt she a chinese?
Werfeus [4d\]: hk origins
Neriya [6k\]: cut at l12?
alfi [3k\]: k12
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;W[hm]C[noIQ [3k\]: sabom: board 3. :)
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;B[hn]
;W[hl]
;B[in]C[Lothus [2d\]: she is too strong 
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;W[ek]C[alfi [3k\]: k12
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;B[fl]
;W[fk]
;B[dk]C[Oloril [3k?\]: what's the scouter say about her power level
Neriya [6k\]: its over 9000!
Javaness [3d\]: how about K8
alfi [3k\]: g6
kinglao298 [5k\]: l8 
alfi [3k\]: not l8
Lothus [2d\]: i would resign now and go for icecreams
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;W[el]
;B[em]
;W[dl]
;B[cl]
;W[dm]
;B[dn]
;W[en]
;B[fm]C[furoncle [2k\]: not good seq
kinglao298 [5k\]: L8 prevents b K9 in sente
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;W[fn]
;B[gn]
;W[cm]
;B[bm]C[alexrix [?\]: yes
Neriya [6k\]: dafuq just happened
furoncle [2k\]: you swore
Ojisama [-\]: stuff died
Neriya [6k\]: no its my mom room door that died
Neriya [6k\]: and scared me to death
Meto [2d\]: L8 und k11 last move
Javaness [3d\]: white is going to live
Neriya [6k\]: b6
alfi [3k\]: d11?
Javaness [3d\]: F12
Minjhou [11k?\]: resign
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;W[kh]C[Neriya [6k\]: my move :)
kinglao298 [5k\]: bold...
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;B[ji]C[Javaness [3d\]: hmm
furoncle [2k\]: w not trying for eyes at all, better go for icecream directly
Neriya [6k\]: k12...
Meto [2d\]: k11 was ws move
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;W[dj]
;B[cj]
;W[ik]C[furoncle [2k\]: too late
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;B[ii]
;W[fj]
;B[di]C[Javaness [3d\]: can't see any other move than H10 now
levye [7k\]: 2 eyes seems hard
Arhiman [3d\]: k8
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;W[jl]
;B[km]
;W[hj]C[Javaness [3d\]: ok, that's alive
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;B[im]C[levye [7k\]: n1
kinglao298 [5k\]: lol
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;W[il]C[josekimq [1d\]: p6 dead
Meto [2d\]: now r9 group
furoncle [2k\]: mmmh
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;B[ri]
;W[nk]
;B[ml]C[Neriya [6k\]: now k12!
georgee [1d\]: there are 6 w groupes Ş=
georgee [1d\]: :)
furoncle [2k\]: what does it do
georgee [1d\]: if this is living w wins :)
RayTomes [1d\]: 5 groups live, 6 die
RayTomes [1d\]: is that right?
levye [7k\]: "6 groups die" isnt always a fact
furoncle [2k\]: except kyu games and cho chikun games
goBum [1k\]: seems like b wants to kill something :P
RayTomes [1d\]: I have seen 7 live
VIH [4d?\]: Even if nothing is dead W has no points.
Neriya [6k\]: well k12 kills some stones...
RayTomes [1d\]: but rule is a good guide
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;W[pn]C[Neriya [6k\]: unless someone else sees something different
levye [7k\]: better not to have 6 groups tho
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;B[rj]
;W[po]
;B[pp]C[furoncle [2k\]: yes, 6 groups is huge fun
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;W[np]
;B[op]
;W[lr]C[furoncle [2k\]: i don't see the 2nd eye :(
kinglao298 [5k\]: the more the merrier, no? :)
Javaness [3d\]: be patient
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;B[ni]C[RayTomes [1d\]: connect also works, makes 5 groups
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;W[jg]C[levye [7k\]: right hand side 3 groups (if all lives) got 13-14 points ?
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;B[nr]C[Minjhou [11k?\]: !
furoncle [2k\]: w so greedy
Minjhou [11k?\]: ?
goBum [1k\]: everyone wants to live 
Arhiman [3d\]: why greedy ?
goBum [1k\]: and win!
furoncle [2k\]: where is the eye
Minjhou [11k?\]: why b not k12?
goBum [1k\]: captain hook eye ^^
RayTomes [1d\]: l2 m3 l10 l11 n9 m9 m10 and semeai
Javaness [3d\]: could be nice if L3 died
furoncle [2k\]: there is like a little problem in P9
RayTomes [1d\]: B can ignore W l10 to go n9 
josekimq [1d\]: l10 n9 no semeai
RayTomes [1d\]: correct
furoncle [2k\]: so, where is that eye again
RayTomes [1d\]: but L11 rather large
furoncle [2k\]: large ? what about b's corner ? :(
RayTomes [1d\]: B corner not large, it is HUGE
pollybis [3d\]: k12 larger
atarihuana [1d\]: its not a corner its a quadrant
Meto [2d\]: L2 k14 next w
kinglao298 [5k\]: how about this l2 m3 r5 s3 s4 r2 ?
RayTomes [1d\]: why s3?
atarihuana [1d\]: s3 is s5
kinglao298 [5k\]: to threaten...
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;W[ok]C[HelloQtion [-\]: who play first in your sequence ?
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;B[kr]C[kinglao298 [5k\]: b
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;W[pl]
;B[rk]C[kinglao298 [5k\]: too late,its cold now...
RayTomes [1d\]: uh oh
furoncle [2k\]: and b gets L2, isn't that one "large"
goBum [1k\]: looks dead o_O
Luffyy [3d\]: it is
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;W[pk]
;B[rl]C[goBum [1k\]: resign soon?
RayTomes [1d\]: yes
georgee [1d\]: but to conect to l2 it was sente, and them maybe a semeay betwin p6 and j6
RayTomes [1d\]: there was no semeai if B was sensible - but B would lose l13 stones and probably j11 
furoncle [2k\]: L4 proved great
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;W[nj]
;B[oh]C[RayTomes [1d\]: oops
TheThe [8k\]: ?
furoncle [2k\]: yuck
Javaness [3d\]: snif
kinglao298 [5k\]: timesuji?
RayTomes [1d\]: k12 important
furoncle [2k\]: vital
TheThe [8k\]: k14 now?
]
;W[lk]
;B[mk]
;W[mj]
;B[lj]
;W[lq]
;B[lp]C[EWGC2012 [-\]: B+R
RayTomes [1d\]: B cool
EWGC2012 [-\]: thanks for watching
furoncle [2k\]: gg
furoncle [2k\]: when is next
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