(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[4500]OT[3x30 byo-yomi] GN[International Go Cup 2013]PW[Ondrej Silt]PB[Pal Balogh]WR[6d]BR[6d]DT[2013-09-07]EV[International Go Cup 2013]RO[3]PC[Brno, Czech Republic] ;B[pd] ;W[dd] ;B[pp] ;W[dq] ;B[do] ;W[co] ;B[cn] ;W[cp] ;B[gn] ;W[gq] ;B[pj] ;W[nc] ;B[lc] ;W[qc] ;B[qd] ;W[pc] ;B[od] ;W[rc] ;B[nd] ;W[nb] ;B[le] ;W[nq] ;B[pn]C[Brno2013a [-\]: pairing for 3rd round: http://ivan.kostka.sweb.cz/Brno2013/Pair3.txt Brno2013a [-\]: results: https://sites.google.com/site/govbrne/news/results donkisot [2d?\]: r3? ] ;W[cg]C[Brno2013a [-\]: and some photos from friday: https://sites.google.com/site/govbrne/news/photos/photos ] ;B[mp] ;W[qq] ;B[pq] ;W[pr] ;B[dc] ;W[cc] ;B[ec] ;W[cd] ;B[fe]C[neduddgi [1d\]: white has 4 corners, so black will win the game Backflash [7k?\]: im waiting for a miracle at this point liusasori [4d\]: white as 4 corners that means nothing liusasori [4d\]: we can't give a value to b outside power ] ;W[rr] ;B[dh]C[liusasori [4d\]: b ahs around 70 potentials points that can turn to be more than 120 in one move, but no cash. W has around 50 solid points ] ;W[ch] ;B[dj]C[Jiffy [2k\]: b better be good at attacking backpack1 [2d\]: *defending ;) Jiffy [2k\]: yea, but attacking white invasion Vador [-\]: B's influence zone becoming impressive ! Backflash [7k?\]: tengen invasion incoming haha Kasparadi5: game looks hopeless for w LonelyD [2k\]: w can try something like k6 neduddgi [1d\]: White has lost his winning chance with ws2, when he has defend his 4th corner GoShinobi [-\]: ........... GoShinobi [-\]: not too bad for w Backflash [7k?\]: hey its stil, it far from over Backflash [7k?\]: silt* Anivia [6k?\]: white knew what he was giving up when ho took 4 corners GoShinobi [-\]: porbably sth around m11 GoShinobi [-\]: *probably* Backflash [7k?\]: telling you, tengen for glory ! jusiblitz [3k\]: i was thinking about n11 liusasori [4d\]: neduddgi : it's needed to be strong before invading, so w has to have no weakness and that's why he played s2 backpack1 [2d\]: that´s an all or nothing game :D LonelyD [2k\]: n11 will die, think Jiffy [2k\]: I don't like black liusasori [4d\]: so w need* liusasori [4d\]: as w is strong everywhere, he can fight without looking behind Backflash [7k?\]: i like black, he managed to build this thing, you dont see this much influence every day bigfry [-\]: black only needs ~55 points in the center plus sides to win bigfry [-\]: he doesn't need to kill anything Jiffy [2k\]: right side is completely open bigfry [-\]: not really Ukasuhs [4d\]: giving w only 55 points is not realistic Anivia [6k?\]: nah, right side is pretty strong Jiffy [2k\]: yea, but no points bigfry [-\]: ukasuhs then how many points does white have? Anivia [6k?\]: but left side is so full of weaknesses it's not even funny Ukasuhs [4d\]: black has left every possible huge endgame move for w like s6, b6, e16 push and cut etc liusasori [4d\]: w can play at s6 and s15, and there is almost nothing on the right side Ukasuhs [4d\]: if b cant make at least 70 points, he has no chance liusasori [4d\]: so game far from over for both LonelyD [2k\]: yep its true? but w can try something more agressive or no? Ukasuhs [4d\]: i also prefer b, but it still playable for w for sure Backflash [7k?\]: more like have to try ] ;W[oo]C[liusasori [4d\]: w need to count precisely : he has to estimate how many points b will get and then decide between reducing and endgame or invading LonelyD [2k\]: how lioke o 10 ? LonelyD [2k\]: like* leimao [3k\]: how much time left fot both players? Brno2013a [-\]: W: 41, B: 46 Brno2013a [-\]: minutes* leimao [3k\]: thanks ] ;B[nn]C[CGBSpender [3d?\]: L10 ? Goprince [5d\]: just play in mid and live LonelyD [2k\]: o 5n5 p6 p7 n6 Ukasuhs [4d\]: i dont think b plans on answering o5 with n5 CGBSpender [3d?\]: could be o5 n6, doesn't help w Ukasuhs [4d\]: ya, after o5 n6 u have to push 2 more times probably ] ;W[in] ;B[hp] ;W[jp] ;B[gp]C[osome [7k\]: tengen!!! Kasparadi5: what g4 about? ] ;W[kn]C[Backflash [7k?\]: there was a cut adrenaline [3d\]: Seems to be a very easy game for w ] ;B[mq]C[osome [7k\]: yep, b in troubles adrenaline [3d\]: K9 goren2 [2k\]: h3 ] ;W[po] ;B[qo] ;W[on] ;B[om]C[adrenaline [3d\]: w wants to end up sente here adrenaline [3d\]: o5 Vador [-\]: I'm on an android. Who are B and W ? goren2 [2k\]: does it dream of electric sheep? adrenaline [3d\]: w O silt adrenaline [3d\]: B O Balogh adrenaline [3d\]: P Balogh Vador [-\]: Are they pros ? goren2 [2k\]: yes goren2 [2k\]: korean pros ] ;W[op]C[Brno2013a [-\]: 6d amateurs ] ;B[qn]C[goren2 [2k\]: now h3? goren2 [2k\]: or o7? adrenaline [3d\]: O7 cut, but could be too much... ] ;W[qp] ;B[mm] ;W[lm]C[adrenaline [3d\]: I don't like the flow of w at this corner---gained ~10 points but made black flawless adrenaline [3d\]: S16? donkisot [2d?\]: black better here neduddgi [1d\]: the black territory on the right side is more solid adrenaline [3d\]: not without S16 Achiles [2k\]: h3 adrenaline [3d\]: And S16 and M18 is the reason why black is in delima I think adrenaline [3d\]: hard to decide where to make enclosure (top or right goren2 [2k\]: defintiely right. I would s16 Ukasuhs [4d\]: ya, right is definitely bigger than top, its more like s16 or something for the center Ukasuhs [4d\]: cause w m9 is annoying next Achiles [2k\]: b looks way ahead whichever pet [1k\]: m9 for b? ] ;B[lo]C[goren2 [2k\]: in my game I would play s15 immediately now. But I suck Ukasuhs [4d\]: b is threatening k7 i suppose goren2 [2k\]: or perhaaps q12 is better? adrenaline [3d\]: M5 is such a slack I think Ukasuhs [4d\]: if he can get it, k7 k6 m8 is ideal adrenaline [3d\]: M9? ] ;W[ll]C[Ukasuhs [4d\]: but ya, if thats all it does, w can just m9 ] ;B[fq]C[adrenaline [3d\]: B played cosmo style at the beginnig adrenaline [3d\]: then suddenly playing so solid and slow---not very consistent adrenaline [3d\]: w has F2 and B6 miai pet [1k\]: funny b builds moyo, and both dont care goren2 [2k\]: h7 adrenaline [3d\]: even a pet knows it Achiles [2k\]: b aiming at b6 i think adrenaline [3d\]: or they both know those moyos are paper latterns if b just enclose---needs to improve efficiency by attacking ] ;W[bn] ;B[kk]C[adrenaline [4d\]: here it comes adrenaline [4d\]: B6 might be a little bit slow rinpa [2d\]: that comment earned you a promotion - congrats adrenaline [3d\]: hmmm adrenaline [3d\]: now it is gone climbtrees [6k\]: indecision just cost you adrenaline [4d\]: haha Ukasuhs [4d\]: w played b6 cause its a bit painful for b to get it in sente if w doesnt take it adrenaline [4d\]: optimism helps climbtrees [6k\]: see?! adrenaline [4d\]: It is not really sente pet [1k\]: a bit of 'all in' adrenaline [4d\]: w can F2 adrenaline [4d\]: b needs to cutoof at the bottom goren2 [2k\]: should w j9? Achiles [2k\]: well w got all corners its b's game to lose adrenaline [4d\]: Maybe w has a god reason, but our 3-4Ds just prefer M9 to M8 adrenaline [4d\]: good ] ;W[ml] ;B[ln] ;W[jm] ;B[il]C[Achiles [2k\]: this is painful to watch adrenaline [4d\]: could suddenly become very bloody ] ;W[nk] ;B[ol]C[uhgsjkh: ugly game uhgsjkh: takemiya wouldn't like it ] ;W[ni] ;B[li]C[yw [?\]: oh, he would adrenaline [4d\]: M18 then adrenaline [4d\]: E14? yw [?\]: m18 cant be enough for w Zen19E [5d\]: f14 tesuji ] ;W[pi] ;B[oj] ;W[mi] ;B[oi]C[adrenaline [4d\]: B needs to D14 exchange ] ;W[lh] ;B[ki]C[Ukasuhs [4d\]: n11 is soo greedy ] ;W[oh] ;B[ph] ;W[kh] ;B[jh]C[adrenaline [4d\]: now b converted to poster child of solid territory play! uhgsjkh: w just need to play calmly adrenaline [4d\]: now each eye shape is worth the game ] ;W[kf] ;B[jg] ;W[lf] ;B[og] ;W[nh] ;B[pg] ;W[me] ;B[mg] ;W[mf] ;B[ng] ;W[mh] ;B[md] ;W[kd] ;B[ie] ;W[ld] ;B[mc]C[Achiles [2k\]: J4 dutch2dan [2d\]: k8? adrenaline [4d\]: L2 has an eye ] ;W[ip]C[adrenaline [4d\]: but w can make three eyes with no sweat Achiles [2k\]: yay! ] ;B[hq] ;W[hm] ;B[kl] ;W[km] ;B[je] ;W[ke] ;B[cm] ;W[bm] ;B[dg] ;W[df] ;B[ef]C[pet [1k\]: f14 still possible? ] ;W[ci] ;B[di] ;W[hl] ;B[cj]C[shortstraw [1k?\]: f14? ] ;W[ik] ;B[cf] ;W[bf] ;B[de] ;W[ce] ;B[hj] ;W[ed] ;B[fd] ;W[fc] ;B[fb] ;W[gc] ;B[gb] ;W[hc] ;B[cb] ;W[bb] ;B[hb]C[adrenaline [3d\]: C19 Achiles [2k\]: why did w cut so bravely anyway goren2 [2k\]: i m thinking w g10 Ber [1d\]: c19 very interressing Achiles [2k\]: c19 e18 b wins semeai Ber [1d\]: pb w h17 dead ! Brno2013a [-\]: W in byo (3x30s), B 33 minutes left ] ;W[jf] ;B[if] ;W[ca] ;B[eb] ;W[nl] ;B[nm] ;W[jc] ;B[ic] ;W[id]C[sandbag [3d\]: reading k16? ] ;B[ib] ;W[jd]C[Achiles [2k\]: b wants L11 MrTortoise [5k\]: k11 aji Moin9 [1k\]: h15 h16 k18 more safe for black? ] ;B[jb] ;W[he] ;B[hf] ;W[re] ;B[rd] ;W[sd] ;B[rf] ;W[sf] ;B[qe]C[goren2 [2k\]: b is now down by 20 points at least ] ;W[se] ;B[sg] ;W[sc] ;B[rg] ;W[rp] ;B[ro]C[sandbag [3d\]: k18 was really painful ] ;W[mb] ;B[lb] ;W[hk]C[goren2 [2k\]: c8? ] ;B[gj]C[goren2 [2k\]: ok...k10? ] ;W[er] ;B[da]C[lizell [8k\]: why b haven t capture g17 ? ] ;W[db]C[lizell [8k\]: with h16 ] ;B[lk]C[goren2 [2k\]: he was afraid of h15 sandbag [3d\]: h16 h15 g15 j13 h14 k11 and b is in trouble ] ;W[nj]C[Woland [2k\]: acatually I think it's still even game. ] ;B[cb]C[goren2 [2k\]: woland as in the devil? MrTortoise [5k\]: w did really well reducing b MrTortoise [5k\]: and living ] ;W[df] ;B[ba] ;W[ee] ;B[ge] ;W[hd] ;B[ff] ;W[ij] ;B[ii] ;W[ab] ;B[oc] ;W[ob] ;B[ma] ;W[pa] ;B[na] ;W[ra] ;B[bl] ;W[fl] ;B[am] ;W[bo] ;B[jr] ;W[jj] ;B[ji] ;W[kr] ;B[kq] ;W[ir] ;B[lr] ;W[iq] ;B[dl]C[goren2 [2k\]: hm. b wins ] ;W[so] ;B[sn] ;W[gr] ;B[fr]C[Rak11: mada ] ;W[hr] ;B[eq] ;W[dr] ;B[en] ;W[ep] ;B[fp] ;W[eo] ;B[fo] ;W[dp] ;B[dn] ;W[fm] ;B[fn] ;W[nr] ;B[sp]C[goren2 [2k\]: ok, w wins by 4 ] ;W[sq] ;B[bi] ;W[bh] ;B[bj] ;W[ek] ;B[fk] ;W[el] ;B[ej] ;W[dk] ;B[ck] ;W[gk] ;B[fj] ;W[ok] ;B[pk] ;W[jl] ;B[fs]C[MrTortoise [5k\]: i got b about 8 ahead MrTortoise [5k\]: whats komi? ] ;W[kp] ;B[lp]C[sandbag [3d\]: 6.5 MrTortoise [5k\]: ty Brno2013a [-\]: B+R Brno2013a [-\]: thanks for watching climbtrees [6k\]: merci, danke ])