(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[9000]OT[3x60 byo-yomi]
GN[57th European Go Congress, 2nd round]PW[Podpera Lukas ]PB[Fan Hui ]WR[6d]BR[7d]DT[2013-07-29]RO[2]PC[Olsztyn, Poland]C[xDragon [?\]: board 1 i guess?
LApulca [-\]: go go Lukan!!!
EGC2013a [?\]: yes, first board
xDragon [?\]: unfortunate that both ilya and alex lost first round
yw [?\]: why is ondrej silt not in the supergroup?
yuuki [1k\]: Who did alex lose to ?
TurtleDove [4k?\]: who did Ilya play in round 1 ?
yuuki [1k\]: Ilya lost to Viktor, i heard ?
BoSunHac [4d\]: ondrej is not in supergroup because he didnt register in time
yw [?\]: this is ridiculous
BoSunHac [4d\]: no
BoSunHac [4d\]: it is typical ondrej silt
xDragon [?\]: did he have a celebratory beer or ten?
EGC2013a [?\]: results of first round are in my profile
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;B[dd]
;W[dp]
;B[pc]C[maciek [2d\]: no co ty nie powiesz!
stoup [2k\]: allerui 
stoup [2k\]: aller Hui ^^
stoup [2k\]: ooo mini fuseki chinois?
maciek [2d\]: allez:)
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;W[qp]C[York [5d\]: bet all 5dan on fan hui
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;B[op]C[ttonndaa [3d\]: don't underestimate Lukas
Renovate [-\]: too late
woohoo1: is fan hui honorary pro or real pro?
Eduardo [2k\]: who won yesterday? fan or lukas?
stoup [2k\]: Fan Hui est 2p
stoup [2k\]: hui a gagné 
goren2 [2k\]: zut alors! 2p!
Reym [-\]: yes Fan Hui was already 2p in China before coming to France
woohoo1: thanks
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;W[oq]C[woohoo1: so he pass exams right?
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;B[pp]
;W[pq]
;B[qo]C[goren2 [2k\]: no, he became 2p because he printed himself a 2p certificate
York [5d\]: thats a funny joke
Eduardo [2k\]: hahaha xd
Eduardo [2k\]: 2printer pro :p
xDragon [?\]: werent you the guest who insulted breakfast for 10 imn because his pro rank was honorary
Renovate [-\]: lol
woohoo1: i did not talk about breakfast -_-
xDragon [?\]: someone did a little while ago
Eduardo [2k\]: hey, who won yesterday? -___- fan, right?
xDragon [?\]: i just knew it was a guest
goren2 [2k\]: Reprap 2p printer.  Print your on 2p in 3d.
gruenwald [2d\]: o3 
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;W[nq]C[xDragon [?\]: yeah he won thats why hes on board 1
York [5d\]: there're loser everywhere, calm down
trousey [12k\]: i like breakfast he has always been nice when i talk to him
stoup [2k\]: Fan win yesterday
holynec [-\]: strong trolls these days
woohoo1: who paid him is cheated ;)
woohoo1: was*
Renovate [-\]: still doesnt make sense
woohoo1: o3?
xDragon [?\]: breakfast gets a lot of hate because his pro rank is honorary even though hes done so much for spreading go
holynec [-\]: is fan hui the favorite to win?
goren2 [2k\]: who paid who?
trousey [12k\]: am i the only one who likes him and hope he does really well in the future?
holynec [-\]: i dont think people hate breakfast because of his rank (he has beaten a couple pros in the past)
xDragon [?\]: they do holynec
holynec [-\]: it's because of the ordeal a few years ago
xDragon [?\]: lotta people go around calling him fake pro
goren2 [2k\]: breakfast is like one of the best western  players ever.  anybody who disagrees is a sad little man or woman
woohoo1: spreading go? i never heard of breakfast spreading go or any website.... only milanmilan with his first website about china experience was good lol and was just his marketing for get money
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;B[rp]C[holynec [-\]: i consider anyone pro outside of asia to be spreading go o_o
gruenwald [2d\]: is breakfast playing on this board or why is he kibbitz topic???
trousey [12k\]: there isn't much money in Go unless you teach or win titles
Renovate [-\]: or both
SImikin [1k\]: Go Lukan go!
SImikin [1k\]: :)
goren2 [2k\]: or you sell go boards.
holynec [-\]: unless you are jimmy cha, or turned to poker
holynec [-\]: *who
woohoo1: guojuan is another great one, i like her, and a real pro!
woohoo1: :)
xDragon [?\]: but yeah id say fan is the favorite to win now since he became a french citizen
trousey [12k\]: she is good to i like her lectuures
trousey [12k\]: lectures
goren2 [2k\]: are you fan's fans?
woohoo1: i am
stoup [2k\]: yep
woohoo1: chinese french always nice
xDragon [?\]: of the two i prefer lukas
pinks [3d\]: are breakfast and shikshin playing
Eduardo [2k\]: hm... why not r3?
holynec [-\]: it will be r3
holynec [-\]: ^^
trousey [12k\]: he could be reading out further ahead
xDragon [?\]: yeah pinks
trousey [12k\]: but r3 will be next
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;W[qq]C[holynec [-\]: the breakfast andn shik are playing and we arnt watchinG?!
woohoo1: are they!?
xDragon [?\]: brekfast is playing yuchangmin, 5d from china
woohoo1: i vote for shik
xDragon [?\]: not together
holynec [-\]: o
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;B[qj]C[kevin281 [?\]: @pinks Look at this http://egc2013.go.art.pl/EGC2013_main.html
woohoo1: yuchan is gonna win
xDragon [?\]: ilya also playing a chinese 5d, chen tibin
woohoo1: 5d chinese is like 3x stronger than 3p honoraryu
xDragon [?\]: chen yibin*
xDragon [?\]: both lost round 1
York [5d\]: ok please just stop that troll
holynec [-\]: well i hope breakfast wins
York [5d\]: breakfast is definately stronger than chinese 5
York [5d\]: 5d
woohoo1: egc tournament is the best..
trousey [12k\]: is breakfast playing?
xDragon [?\]: i am pretty surprised that viktor lin beat ilya
fbp [7d\]: me2
woohoo1: viktor ???
fbp [7d\]: and that stanislaw frejlak beat nikola mitic
Eduardo [2k\]: idk the next move :(
trousey [12k\]: k4?
atgo [?\]: no EuroGoTV?
xDragon [?\]: yeah viktor. sandmann
stoup [2k\]: la france est devant . thomas debarre est 1er. Fan Hui est 2e
woohoo1: the next move is c14
kevin281 [?\]: @trousey Results and pairing : http://egc2013.go.art.pl/EGC2013_main.html
Renovate [-\]: i think w might play on the top
xDragon [?\]: well technically theres a 16 way tie for first right now
woohoo1: c14 + pincer = mid game already
kevin281 [?\]: stoup : alphabetical order :-)
Eduardo [2k\]: xd, what is ur rank woohoo ? 
stoup [2k\]: mdr ok
woohoo1: 2d china
kevin281 [?\]: Mais la France est quand même devant :-)
Eduardo [2k\]: is possible n16? xd
woohoo1: early for now
Eduardo [2k\]: q15
goren2 [2k\]: k16
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;W[pe]C[woohoo1: o16 r17 r18 r16 p18 r12 c6 
Eduardo [2k\]: hmm, yes o16 looks good
Eduardo [2k\]: really, i dont see other option xd
Eduardo [2k\]: r15, maybe
fuzhou [5d\]: q6 instead of c6 i would say
trousey [12k\]: r13?
Eduardo [2k\]: r13 have a problem....i guess, r10
trousey [12k\]: hmmmm
Eduardo [2k\]: q13 would be nice 
trousey [12k\]: i can see that
FuzzFace [1k\]: debarre is not broadcast ?
donkisot [7d?\]: r13 is my guess
xDragon [?\]: nope
Eduardo [2k\]: r13 i dont like :/
Reym [-\]: camera's angle of view are not as good as with eurogotv, we cannot see well if the players are there. Are both seats empty right now?
xDragon [?\]: from what they said yesterday the top players rooms are locked
xDragon [?\]: so theyre only transscriving from the stream
Reym [-\]: ah ok thanks
trousey [12k\]: why are the top player rooms locked?
Luigi [3d\]: like this they cant escaped
Luigi [3d\]: bound to their chairs and obliged to play!
holynec [-\]: xdragon, shouldnt you be training for USGC
trousey [12k\]: ohhh gotcha i think if they are going to broadcast it they should have to stay unless they have to use the bathroom or get a drink
xDragon [?\]: i am training
nasredin [6k\]: it was a broadcasting somewhere?
trousey [12k\]: idk
woohoo1: b can try p15
Eduardo [2k\]: and q16? :/ 
holynec [-\]: xDragon, what is the next move
Reym [-\]: video broadcast : http://egc2013.go.art.pl/page/live
nasredin [6k\]: thx
xDragon [?\]: the next move is q15
holynec [-\]: stone is already there
Eduardo [2k\]: ?
woohoo1: i wanted to drink pepsi, but i already brushed my teeth
chagi [2k\]: wa, the broadcasting is ugly !
xDragon [?\]: it was the next move last move
holynec [-\]: woohoo, you can brush again!?
holynec [-\]: or, use a straw
woohoo1: im lazy and very cold water
xDragon [?\]: things taste bad after brushing your teeth
woohoo1: this is true
holynec [-\]: what is next black move
holynec [-\]: who here is strong?
woohoo1: gobugobu
xDragon [?\]: just you
trousey [12k\]: o17 
trousey [12k\]: next move
Eduardo [2k\]: a 7d say r13, but i dont like
holynec [-\]: where is the 7d
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;B[nc]C[woohoo1: r13 not that bad 
holynec [-\]: wow the 12k
holynec [-\]: is 7p!
woohoo1: the 12k is pro
Luigi [3d\]: he saw it on the live stream^^
bolbi [-\]: please
woohoo1: respect hi mnow
trousey [12k\]: its on the live stream guys just trying to help
xDragon [?\]: please what?
trousey [12k\]: i use to be 8k but had to quit for school
Eduardo [2k\]: ok...now is the opportunity of w
trousey [12k\]: board 2 is pretty far in
holynec [-\]: tenuki
Eduardo [2k\]: r17 is obligatory, though , or no?xd
woohoo1: i used to be good, but then programming jobs made me bearded and tired
trousey [12k\]: my uncle is a programmer and i want to be
Zahlman [1k\]: at least your knee has no arrows in it
zaboomafoo [3k\]: it is hard to get into the field this day and age
trousey [12k\]: i know
trousey [12k\]: but i love to do it
woohoo1: u wanna see how is debugging...
Luigi [3d\]: not that hard if you are really willing to learn and work
woohoo1: from other codes
zaboomafoo [3k\]: python is useless
holynec [-\]: where is white's next move o_o
trousey [12k\]: i know how debugging is in other codes i have done it for friends it is awful 
bolbi [-\]: could you please focus on the game ?
zaboomafoo [3k\]: learn cobalt
Eduardo [2k\]: hahaha, well, bolbi :D
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;W[qc]
;B[qd]C[trousey [12k\]: they have played a couple moves that arnt on here yet
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;W[pd]
;B[rc]C[trousey [12k\]: there they go
Eduardo [2k\]: we want not talk about codes now xd
xDragon [?\]: i was about to say that trousey then they updated it
Zahlman [1k\]: extend, surely?
Eduardo [2k\]: hey s17 :o
holynec [-\]: i dont like this exchange for w :/
Bjondro [8k\]: python have wide usage, it's vary flexible
diva [3d\]: p17 ?
Zahlman [1k\]: has to be r18 first imo
xDragon [?\]: r18 p17 only two options?
holynec [-\]: well white does have ladder, so p17 possible
trousey [12k\]: i like jave and c++ better and w still hasn't played
holynec [-\]: but then b c6 is basically free
woohoo1: r18 is heavy for w
Bjondro [8k\]: java and c++ is also excellent choice
Eduardo [2k\]: r18 is the move :/
woohoo1: well i am not watching 
holynec [-\]: white wants the r11 extension in normal joseki
Eduardo [2k\]: or is better a ko? xd
Luigi [3d\]: yeah, r18 should be the only move
holynec [-\]: but now can only get r12, which will be too close
woohoo1: r18 s18 p17 q18 p18 r18 o16 this?
holynec [-\]: it's r18 q18
xDragon [?\]: r18 was indeed played
xDragon [?\]: then b immediately plays q18
hdhfg: r18 q18 
PL [?\]: p17 r18 q18 r17 p16 o18 q19 n17 
woohoo1: r18 q18 
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;W[qb]C[holynec [-\]: i think white's only plan now is to finish top right, then attack bottom right
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;B[pb]C[donkisot [7d?\]: seems like o17 was a good choice 
woohoo1: w is playing strange
Eduardo [2k\]: hahaha
holynec [-\]: this is a normal variation
Eduardo [2k\]: life in gote xd
donkisot [7d?\]: r15 s16 s15 s18 is standart 
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;W[pj]C[Eduardo [2k\]: :o!!!
woohoo1: oh that variation
zaboomafoo [3k\]: wow tenuki?
Eduardo [2k\]: tenuki?
holynec [-\]: ah yes, :-\]
xDragon [?\]: standard ytou say
woohoo1: that variation is old
SoSerious [1k?\]: where is podpera from?
xDragon [?\]: CZ
holynec [-\]: the normal variation would have been bad for w
donkisot [7d?\]: white is playing for spectators 
donkisot [7d?\]: i like the idea
woohoo1: w wants to be hikaru
woohoo1: but he is not
woohoo1: no sai behind him
holynec [-\]: r11
donkisot [7d?\]: keeping the living in the corner option 
xDragon [?\]: b plays r9
minimalist [3k\]: w must playing risky, if he wants to win
woohoo1: this is not risky man
xDragon [?\]: w then plays r11
Eduardo [2k\]: cmon fan, u are rude :p xd, r15
holynec [-\]: hmm, i had wrong direction of play :/
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;B[qk]C[PL [?\]: surprised u say that minimalist
minimalist [3k\]: why?
woohoo1: too solid for me
woohoo1: i resign sir
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;W[qi]C[PL [?\]: u are minimalist :-)
minimalist [3k\]: hehe
Lopa: White is bad
Eduardo [2k\]: the cut!!!
holynec [-\]: r15 now?
HappyLook [5d\]: who is playing?
woohoo1: podpera lukas w and fan hui B
Eduardo [2k\]: hey , w is 6d.. 
Lopa: r15
HappyLook [5d\]: ty
woohoo1: yw
woohoo1: fan hui is too good
Luigi [3d\]: too many options for B, I Dont like this for w
FuzzFace [1k\]: hui il est bon
Eduardo [2k\]: fan hui needs fan, need q11 now
Eduardo [2k\]: xd
holynec [-\]: i think r15 is proper
PL [?\]: q10 is just a kind of move stong players always said to me: "dont play like this", is it true?
xDragon [?\]: looks like hes reading the cut. keeps touching the upper right stones
Luigi [3d\]: yes, dont give away corner now
Lopa: now r15
zaboomafoo [3k\]: someone link the stream
PL [?\]: so..black should r15 now?
minimalist [3k\]: cut
Korf [1k\]: http://egc2013.go.art.pl/page/live
Luigi [3d\]: http://egc2013.go.art.pl/page/live
zaboomafoo [3k\]: thx
Bleh [2d\]: PL what you should and shouldn't play depends  on how strong you are
PL [?\]: why Bleh?
Eduardo [2k\]: fan hui is reading ladders and dragons D:
Bleh [2d\]: because if you don't know how to use a move, then it's bad
woohoo1: Bleh is right, if we can't read something for blank flashes on memory, then don't play it, go for simple :)
minimalist [3k\]: well PL must be strong, he is obviously from the Premier League :)
woohoo1: lol
Bleh [2d\]: you should always try moves, but in serious games you might avoid it
gobugobu [7d\]: q11 looks nice now. Why not?
Eduardo [2k\]: what are the serious games?
Elodin [4k\]: i like the cut
holynec [-\]: even if you can read, how many moves do you read ahead
PL [?\]: rather...a Past League one
woohoo1: serious games are money games ... like beating 100 dollars or more
holynec [-\]: the variations just grow exponentially
Eduardo [2k\]: but, here there arent 100 dollars...or yes?
Eduardo [2k\]: xd
kevin281 [?\]: r15
woohoo1: no :P
Eduardo [2k\]: r15 is too solid, too solid is too boring :p
gobugobu [7d\]: I think these games are about $1000 or so. You are only allowed to lose one game or so, so each game is worth that much.
woohoo1: that's why some players here, uses smartphone while playing the tournaments... they don't care too much
PL [?\]: r15 now?
xDragon [?\]: b plays s16
PL [?\]: s16 is better than r15?
kevin281 [?\]: even more solid :-)
holynec [-\]: yes, we are all greedy
Trumelunki [3d\]: r15 looks the move black wants to play
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;B[rd]C[woohoo1: s16 too solid
Elodin [4k\]: s16 less forcing potential?
Eduardo [2k\]: s16 is toooooooo solid xd
Madzilla [3d\]: you're too solid :P
minimalist [3k\]: i like s16
holynec [-\]: it is a stronger attacking move because now w does not have a lot of forcing moves on that side
woohoo1: w needs like 900 moves on center to be good
holynec [-\]: eg, the hane at r14
Bauer [1d\]: Fan Hui style is extremely solid
gobugobu [7d\]: q11 ?
kevin281 [?\]: yes
Eduardo [2k\]: w cant push in sente, now :(
minimalist [3k\]: q12 ?
woohoo1: q9 is the only move
Madzilla [3d\]: it's just common sense to not give your opponent forcing moves if you want to attack
PL [?\]: s16: "Look u can do whatever u want and i still play my good moves"
Lopa: b have better
gobugobu [7d\]: q9 r8 q12 is possible
Elodin [4k\]: this is terrible for w.  i'm surprised w didn't just c14
woohoo1: hi gobu
Eduardo [2k\]: cmon w, for the spectators, r7 :D xd
PL [?\]: i would play just q11 now
gobugobu [7d\]: if q11 q9 
zaboomafoo [3k\]: q11 seems too slow
PL [?\]: showing my opponent i can play solid connection too!
Madzilla [3d\]: Q11 is not the right move when you're defending
Elodin [4k\]: q11 leaves q13 for later
gobugobu [7d\]: but anyway, if w q11, B has more room to make mistakes
xDragon [?\]: w plays q9
PL [?\]: why Madzilla?
minimalist [3k\]: what about r6 now, its too early?
woohoo1: well said gobu
Elodin [4k\]: q9 
Lopa: gobugobu [7d\]: q9 r8 q12 is possible this is gote
woohoo1: nice way to think bro
Madzilla [3d\]: when you're attacking you want to play solid moves like S16, when you're defending you want to play light, flexible moves
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;W[pk]C[Eduardo [2k\]: ok
kevin281 [?\]: r8
PL [?\]: hmm so i would play q11 because i dream about attacking in the future :-)
Eduardo [2k\]: yeah, r8 
woohoo1: i guess r8 like gobu said
woohoo1: solid and promissing
Lopa: q11 better
Madzilla [3d\]: I was looking at P12, I don't know if it is good here, but it's the kind of move you should be checking in this position
woohoo1: maybe r7 better shape
Luigi [3d\]: p12???
Eduardo [2k\]: q11 dont looks good now
xDragon [?\]: b plays r8
woohoo1: good
xDragon [?\]: w plays what looks like q11 but fans head is blocking it
woohoo1: how is the delay ? 20 seconds?
Madzilla [3d\]: first play your forcing moves like Q9, then make shape
Lopa: r7 w have many sente
gobugobu [7d\]: not really Mad
xDragon [?\]: yeah r8 q11 was played
holynec [-\]: that's hard to judge mad
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;B[ql]C[Lopa: 78 better
gobugobu [7d\]: forcing moves can easily be aji-keshi
Bleh [2d\]: ye mad, what were you thinking?
holynec [-\]: you lose aji the more forcing moves
PL [?\]: r6 is a move for white, right? is playing q9 move doesnt help black to defend it?
Madzilla [3d\]: I meant that you need to sell out the aji when you're on the defense
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;W[pi]C[xDragon [?\]: b plays q6
holynec [-\]: you don't actually
gobugobu [7d\]: what does that even mean, Mad?
goatsunday [5k\]: sell out = exploit, I think
holynec [-\]: just play light and flexible, dont always need to do forcing moves to live
woohoo1: b is leading huge already
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;B[pn]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: sometimes it is easier to read if you sell out the aji
selpahi [1k\]: how is the stream faster than the relayed board on kgs?
gobugobu [7d\]: n15 ?
xDragon [?\]: because the transscriber is using the stream too
Lopa:  q11 I had to play immediately without strengthening the black
dxxd [1d\]: well, this is better position for w than the position kramer had yesterday
gobugobu [7d\]: what is sell out aji?
Eduardo [2k\]: is bad p7?
fadjal [4k\]: who are the players ? cant see with my phone ...
woohoo1: this question tricked my mind
holynec [-\]: what was p6 for?
Madzilla [3d\]: sometimes you need to use the aji you've built up, you can't be too worried about aji keshi if you're on the run
holynec [-\]: b afraid of q5?
gobugobu [7d\]: to play aji-keshi moves?
Weishenme [4d\]: B palys solid moves
Trumelunki [3d\]: black plays really solid
kevin281 [?\]: s3 looks big later
Weishenme [4d\]: plays
PL [?\]: one more move for white needed?
woohoo1: the streamer must be with 5000ms on kgs
gobugobu [7d\]: ah, that kind of amateurish thinking. OK, I got what you mean.
PL [?\]: or he can play left side right now?
holynec [-\]: w can tenuki
woohoo1: n16 now is the only move
xDragon [?\]: n15 is played
woohoo1: ok
Eduardo [2k\]: ok w, what is ur plan now? 
Lopa: c14
woohoo1: n15 was not that good
Weishenme [4d\]: I prefer n16
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;W[me]C[woohoo1: me too
woohoo1: this is too easy on b
Eduardo [2k\]: b m16?
woohoo1: this is like trying to make points on center
woohoo1: instead of force something
holynec [-\]: woohoo, who are you
Madzilla [3d\]: I think W is already losing this game...
holynec [-\]: you seem very strong o_o
Eduardo [2k\]: yeps, but w havent the better shape
manofearth [?\]: how cld one  be had on b / every b stone  is solid
Elodin [4k\]: c6 
kevin281 [?\]: b c6 ?
Eduardo [2k\]: well tenuki is a good option too
woohoo1: m16 now is like making w cry
Madzilla [3d\]: W is already finding it difficult to play normal moves and has to be 'creative' while all B stones are in good places and he has lots of good ways to continue
PL [?\]: i would play m16 now too
goren2 [2k\]: c14
Eduardo [2k\]: c14....killer moyo move
gobugobu [7d\]: n15 - my move
xDragon [?\]: b plays m16
gobugobu [7d\]: n17 n18 o16 is too good for W
PL [?\]: gobugobu so how to continue...n15 m16 ...
Weishenme [4d\]: P15 seems ok
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;B[ld]C[gobugobu [7d\]: so m16 is inevitable
Eduardo [2k\]: woohoo is a chinese 2d ;)
gobugobu [7d\]: l14 next
gobugobu [7d\]: although f17 h17 c14 looks ok too
Eduardo [2k\]: ok m15 is must move now
Eduardo [2k\]: :P
gobugobu [7d\]: no, not m15 - that is bad
Eduardo [2k\]: ahahaha, yes :p
PL [?\]: white should play keima
PL [?\]: he must continue n15
PL [?\]: but i feel n15 was a mistake
woohoo1: c7 
FuzzFace [1k\]: who is the opponent of debarre ?
Rackam [2d\]: lot of white stones to do nothing
gorga [1d\]: is this table1? who are the players?
zaboomafoo [3k\]: w-podpera lukas, b-fan hui
zaboomafoo [3k\]: yes table 1
kevin281 [?\]: FuzzFace http://egc2013.go.art.pl/EGC2013_main.html
xDragon [?\]: debarre is playing jun tarumi
Eduardo [2k\]: k16 would be nice 
gorga [1d\]: great thx
zaboomafoo [3k\]: k16 is interesting
PL [?\]: l14 is consistent but the left side looks the biggest
zaboomafoo [3k\]: but if k16 m15?
zaboomafoo [3k\]: and then pincer?
Eduardo [2k\]: yes
Eduardo [2k\]: mmm
Eduardo [2k\]: m14 first
Eduardo [2k\]: he need to sacrifice n15 
woohoo1: tenuki and pray for b don't clamp at m15
PL [?\]: tenuki and woohoo
Eduardo [2k\]: hahaha 
PL [?\]: white must l14
xDragon [?\]: w left the table for a bit but is back now, still thinking on this one
manofearth [?\]: praying is not  very  sound technique
ichbinvale [2k\]: is there a stream?
Bauer [1d\]: have you experience with praying?
PL [?\]: praying is not a technique, its a cheating
manofearth [?\]: me?
zaboomafoo [3k\]: praying mantis style
Bauer [1d\]: yes
Eduardo [2k\]: the go is strategy and is risk...u can to pray, is a valid style :p
zaboomafoo [3k\]: preying on the other hand
xDragon [?\]: w keeps reaching for the bowl but then takes his hand back
manofearth [?\]: not really.actuallly not atal
PL [?\]: okay u right Eduardo i agree, praying is a valid style
Elodin [4k\]: n6 possible?
Theo2015 [3k\]: these games are so slow....but so good O_O
PL [?\]: n6 is out of topic
ichbinvale [2k\]: is there a live-stream of this game?
Luigi [3d\]: http://egc2013.go.art.pl/page/live
xDragon [?\]: w plays l14
woohoo1: moyo option should be k4 m15 d10 c3 
woohoo1: weird
xDragon [?\]: b plays k15 pretty quickly
zaboomafoo [3k\]: b follows with keima
xDragon [?\]: then w f17
]
;W[kf]C[woohoo1: Wowowo
]
;B[je]
;W[fc]C[Luigi [3d\]: quite expected
woohoo1: that games sounds like me sandbagging a low kyu
Luigi [3d\]: I'm curious now to see b's answer
Theo2015 [3k\]: same
zaboomafoo [3k\]: pincer this?
Theo2015 [3k\]: i don't know how to deal with this tbh
Theo2015 [3k\]: i dont like any results hahaha
PL [?\]: white is low kuy here woohoo?
zaboomafoo [3k\]: j17 pincer
BoSunHac [4d\]: no pincer
Icare [1k\]: k14
zaboomafoo [3k\]: f15 also
BoSunHac [4d\]: dont give white easy life
PL [?\]: or black? :-)
woohoo1: just play safe and c14
Icare [1k\]: why not E18 ?
xDragon [?\]: b picks k14
PL [?\]: white wants c14, it might be good idea to play it now b black
Icare [1k\]: fan likes points, bet on E18
Luigi [3d\]: he hesitated before playing it finally
]
;B[jf]C[xDragon [?\]: ill be tyou all he plays k14
woohoo1: b is destroyer of dreams... w wanted to do something but b keeps erasing his dreams.. this is not cool
PL [?\]: praying not listened :-)
Eduardo [2k\]: triple keima xd....hahaha, nice
PL [?\]: black turn back here
zaboomafoo [3k\]: I think he needs to l13
woohoo1: the key to this game is... keep making w looks useless on the center
woohoo1: and win the game
PL [?\]: so natural
woohoo1: gg
Eduardo [2k\]: cmon w, what was ur plan here?
PL [?\]: :-)
woohoo1: he is trying to use his toast stones on center, but b don't let him to..
Luigi [3d\]: w wanted bread and butter
Bleh [2d\]: just k13 
PL [?\]: white should continue f17
Bleh [2d\]: and then double hane
Bleh [2d\]: is my bet
PL [?\]: or he has to play k13?
woohoo1: k13 is really big
zaboomafoo [3k\]: maybe j17?
PL [?\]: j17 not pressure on black stones
woohoo1: j17 l13 and game is ruined
Eduardo [2k\]: xd
Luigi [3d\]: looks like overplay
xDragon [?\]: w back at the table
woohoo1: b will not let w make any hane
woohoo1: k13 j13 k12 j12 he will keep pushing
Eduardo [2k\]: j17 isnt good, q16 lose all sense xd
zaboomafoo [3k\]: it already makes very little
ichbinvale [2k\]: d18 
xDragon [?\]: yeah w plays d18
]
;W[db]C[Eduardo [2k\]: d18 is better :D
woohoo1: can't believe
Eduardo [2k\]: why woohoo?
PL [?\]: at least white is consistent with his moves
Eduardo [2k\]: is better than j17
Eduardo [2k\]: :/
PL [?\]: i think now we can see n15 was bad idea
woohoo1: f16..
xDragon [?\]: b plays h17
PL [?\]: no way, h17?
woohoo1: hmmm
]
;B[hc]C[woohoo1: b wanna d14... not bad
Eduardo [2k\]: w d14
Eduardo [2k\]: hey woohoo, u have my same ideas xd
holynec [-\]: w f15
Eduardo [2k\]: noooo D:
woohoo1: f15 d14 c12 
Eduardo [2k\]: i dont like
Eduardo [2k\]: yeps, should be that
PL [?\]: c14 now
xDragon [?\]: w plays f15
Weishenme [4d\]: f15 , what else ?
Icare [1k\]: c17 ?
Luigi [3d\]: and b says for the cash and sorry for your center
xDragon [?\]: b hasnt responded yet
PL [?\]: u are the man xDragon
Luigi [3d\]: *thanks for the cash
]
;W[fe]C[Eduardo [2k\]: but wait, mmm...b c14, i think
xDragon [?\]: gives me something to do. im going to sleep in 15 min or so though
woohoo1: i guess d13 better 
xDragon [?\]: since im in the US and its 4:30am
PL [?\]: d14 or i am only 9d player
woohoo1: cus c12 is harder on b
woohoo1: d13 fits better
zaboomafoo [3k\]: 5:30 here, sleep is for kyus
Luigi [3d\]: c14 only move?
xDragon [?\]: yeah but i cant stay up all night anymore
Eduardo [2k\]: d13.....sound good, i prefer c14, but d13 makes me sense
Luigi [3d\]: d13 is kyu move
Weishenme [4d\]: d14 more in line with k14
PL [?\]: tell a jokes xDragon
Luigi [3d\]: does nothing and is greedy
woohoo1: hweh
xDragon [?\]: b playss d14
Luigi [3d\]: I dont like the shape of d14 
Eduardo [2k\]: d13 is .,,,,a pro move, and a kyu move :D
Luigi [3d\]: errf
xDragon [?\]: w then plays c17, then b c16
PL [?\]: phew....d14 so i am not only 9d player!
Eduardo [2k\]: XD
]
;B[df]C[xDragon [?\]: c17 and c16 came immediately
]
;W[cc]
;B[cd]C[Luigi [3d\]: now w can c12
SImikin [1k\]: what about time eurogo? pls
woohoo1: strange shape c17
woohoo1: would be gotish for b play c17
woohoo1: if w first c12
Eduardo [2k\]: standard :p
Luigi [3d\]: this is standard woohoo
woohoo1: ehh
zaboomafoo [3k\]: return to k13 now?
woohoo1: c12 for make it worst for b
Weishenme [4d\]: j16 for probing ?
PL [?\]: c12 is good idea woohoo, but white need to make a base for top stones first
woohoo1: j16 if not good reading may cause a failure against that pro...
woohoo1: but not bad ideia, but if he plays there and bad reading, we are gonna see disasterous result soon
PL [?\]: j16 is falling into a trap
donkisot [7d?\]: k13 plz
PL [?\]: white need to play on left side now
donkisot [7d?\]: c6 then :)
woohoo1: i'd prefer k4 than c6 
PL [?\]: c6 looks very shy
zaboomafoo [3k\]: c10
donkisot [7d?\]: i am also shy 
donkisot [7d?\]: still i prefer k13 
PL [?\]: yeah i like c6 too :-)
donkisot [7d?\]: c6 possible 
PL [?\]: c line now
woohoo1: if playing on corner c7... near to d14... if play slow ... k4................   if play for win... c12 
EGC2013a [?\]: White: 1h:38m Black: 1h:51m
PL [?\]: not sure what number but the c line is coming
PL [?\]: all singing now xDrango
PL [?\]: is coming...
PL [?\]: is coming..
woohoo1: lol PL
woohoo1: this is not baseball
woohoo1: homerun!!
SImikin [1k\]: go w go
PL [?\]: :-)
Eduardo [2k\]: d10
PL [?\]: go is everything dude
xDragon [?\]: w plays g17
woohoo1: what
Eduardo [2k\]: nooo
PL [?\]: xDragon is with us!
woohoo1: are u joking
Eduardo [2k\]: xd
woohoo1: g17 is missclick
xDragon [?\]: b plays d17
xDragon [?\]: g17 d17 b18 b17 c18 g18 
]
;W[gc]C[woohoo1: omg
woohoo1: what a terrible mov
]
;B[dc]
;W[bb]
;B[bc]
;W[cb]
;B[gb]C[woohoo1: if w was ahead that would be good one.. but w is losing lol
zaboomafoo [3k\]: yuck position
woohoo1: time for crush w with c6
Eduardo [2k\]: and so?
Eduardo [2k\]: h16? xd
xDragon [?\]: w plays f18 b plays c10
Luigi [3d\]: yeah, b takes sente here
woohoo1: right c10
woohoo1: this is too solid style
woohoo1: how can someone win against that guy?
woohoo1: .....
Luigi [3d\]: c10 because b is leading
PL [?\]: must is a must
]
;W[fb]
;B[cj]C[Luigi [3d\]: he plays that solid because he leads
woohoo1: fan hui... hard oppo
dfsfsdf: g17 was a loosing move?
PL [?\]: why u think Fan Hui play a move because he is leading guys?
xDragon [?\]: well he is arguably the strongest player in europe
Eduardo [2k\]: ok, b won xd
woohoo1: dfsfsdf, maybe was q10
xDragon [?\]: w plays c8
xDragon [?\]: but my stream keeps buffering
Luigi [3d\]: yeah losing move was before g17
PL [?\]: Fan Hui plays just the best move he can one after the other...
PL [?\]: best move step by step
]
;W[cl]C[Eduardo [2k\]: c8 :/
Eduardo [2k\]: is very difficult....really  ,i think that b won just
PL [?\]: thats why he is probably the strongest in Europe
woohoo1: when b get r8 and s16, he got a kind of leading... 
zaboomafoo [3k\]: c8 seems desperate
PL [?\]: he is not the strongest because he is wondering "am i leading" during the game and choose moves accordingly
Luigi [3d\]: split bottom now?
Bauer [1d\]: split bottom, yes
blurb1: territorial balance will influence moves chosen
woohoo1: i vote for j3
lockhart [5d?\]: hey im on the app and i cant see whos playing could someone tell me who is each color in all three games
woohoo1: it's easy to win when you can play L13 any time
Luigi [3d\]: Popdera Lukas w - Fan hui B
woohoo1: ;P
beerslayer [-\]: b looks kind open at top
beerslayer [-\]: *kinda
Theo2015 [3k\]: b's fine on top ;)
woohoo1: j3 g3 m3 c5 l13 and ...
zaboomafoo [3k\]: by the time w gets sente it will be too late
PL [?\]: Fan Hui is white....
PL [?\]: dont make jokes like this Luigi
blurb1: w just has sente i thought
woohoo1: hey fan hui is b
woohoo1: -_-
kaanaak [4k\]: i tought he was yellow
beerslayer [-\]: rules say fan hui is playing black
bolbi [-\]: PL  : please do not confuse users who are using a phone
beerslayer [-\]: easy to look up
xDragon [?\]: b plays e10
zaboomafoo [3k\]: w has to spend his sente making awkward gote moves
ichbinvale [2k\]: b plays sooo solid
ichbinvale [2k\]: e10 
]
;B[ej]C[Luigi [3d\]: yes, e10
woohoo1: oh man... b don't wanna lose that game ;)
Eduardo [2k\]: so solid that is boring :(
manofearth [?\]: slow lookig move. take ur shot now w
PL [?\]: solid is one of most interesting style to watch i think
Theo2015 [3k\]: lol why play loose when it isnt necessary
woohoo1: w should take k13 now
Eduardo [2k\]: solid is interesting
Luigi [3d\]: dont misunderstood this, it's an attack move against c8 also
Theo2015 [3k\]: ^
Eduardo [2k\]: but if the oponnent is solid too xd
clicisclic [5k\]: arg, so fan is wich color?
Theo2015 [3k\]: black
Luigi [3d\]: he is B
woohoo1: B
clicisclic [5k\]: tx
PL [?\]: oh white
PL [?\]: where to play now
beerslayer [-\]: as i already said fan is black
beerslayer [-\]: i looked it up in the rules in the options menu
PL [?\]: stop making jokes about colour of the stones! Fan Hui is black!
zaboomafoo [3k\]: e8 would be so bad
clicisclic [5k\]: okn
Theo2015 [3k\]: he's on a phone so he can't do that ;)
PL [?\]: white i mean... :-)
Theo2015 [3k\]: or can he? idk
dash [2d\]: K 4
beerslayer [-\]: podpera lukas is playimg white
Gemini [6d\]: d3 maybe
PL [?\]: These players are too strong to play one colour game, they play both white and black stones!
lockhart [5d?\]: go lukas!
insomniac [4k\]: what is the minimum d-level to determine players color...
Muttley [2k\]: C5
woohoo1: Podpera Lukas [6d\] White       *****       Fan Hui [7d\] Black 
xDragon [?\]: w plays f4
Icare [1k\]: k4 
]
;W[fp]C[Theo2015 [3k\]: white is shaking in his chair
woohoo1: c3
T4L0N [1k\]: I was thinking E8
zaboomafoo [3k\]: yes, w is apparently vibrating
woohoo1: send me video
Theo2015 [3k\]: http://egc2013.go.art.pl/page/live
woohoo1: ty
WVoron [5d\]: /
Theo2015 [3k\]: white got up and left
Elodin [4k\]: l13 now?
woohoo1: c3 is erasing w
Luigi [3d\]: or around n5?
woohoo1: but i guess b wants to be more and more solid... his counting skillz must be at pro level
zaboomafoo [3k\]: still room for a move at bottom?
Luigi [3d\]: c3 should be gote
Weishenme [4d\]: e8 followed by h3 is tempting
dash [2d\]: i dont get f4
fishtank [3k\]: b+38.5 atm
Luigi [3d\]: f4 says "take corner I take bottom"
FuzzFace [1k\]: w is in a caca 
PL [?\]: this game is beautiful
dash [2d\]: what does it prevent/protect/develop better than k4?
Krapsman [2k\]: Fan wear some glasses?
woohoo1: yes
JEGO [7k\]: k3 is huge for white and black can aproach this lower side 
xDragon [?\]: b plays h3
zaboomafoo [3k\]: hard to find a move for b, he could pass honest;y
FuzzFace [1k\]: no you think its glasses$but its not
PL [?\]: Fan wear glasses? Four eyes during the live tournament?! is he cheating?!
FuzzFace [1k\]: its a new prototype
woohoo1: no glasses?
kevin281 [?\]: ladder-reading glasses
]
;B[hq]C[JEGO [7k\]: h3 good
Luigi [3d\]: did B really need to go that deep?
woohoo1: f4 would be better at f3
Ootakamoku [2d\]: luigi, you really feel this is deep?
PL [?\]: woohoo
dash [2d\]: i think f4 was a mistake. resp i dont get it
Luigi [3d\]: yes Oota
Elodin [4k\]: w needs to try and start a fight
Luigi [3d\]: now b k3/l3?
JEGO [7k\]: fut if white g3 black l3
Ootakamoku [2d\]: bottom left corner open still, so feels like w only choice is to play something like k3, which isnt excacly a happy move
woohoo1: w strategy is very weird
kaanaak [4k\]: which table is it? 1?
Krapsman [2k\]: yes
PL [?\]: playing against Fan Hui is weird itself, no surprisng his strategy is weird
Bauer [1d\]: yes k3 is a unhappy move
goren2 [2k\]: maybe h5?
kevin281 [?\]: why unhappy ?
dash [2d\]: g2?
JEGO [7k\]: ik white k3 black jump h5
PL [?\]: g2
woohoo1: cus its making points on 2nd line and avoind b creating shape while invading corner
zaboomafoo [3k\]: it's like when you have to do something you know is useless
PL [?\]: xDragon: white plays g2
JEGO [7k\]: g2 is too passive i think more agressive move wh4
woohoo1: for a sec i liked g2
woohoo1: lol
Theo2015 [3k\]: please stop trolling
Theo2015 [3k\]: lol
woohoo1: g2 not bad man
woohoo1: i take g2!
JEGO [7k\]: h4
Krapsman [2k\]: go Fan goooo!!!!!
Theo2015 [3k\]: white played l3
Luigi [3d\]: l3
dash [2d\]: it was my suggestion still i dont like f 4
]
;W[kq]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: b will h5?
Krapsman [2k\]: c3 possible?
woohoo1: k4
JEGO [7k\]: yes possible c3 but not now
weiqidevil [-\]: i thought e3 was standard
bolbi [-\]: explain why jego, please
Krapsman [2k\]: yes
FuzzFace [1k\]: Oui, Fan peut le faire, il a deja cramé lukas hier
Bauer [1d\]: e3 typical
Krapsman [2k\]: why not possible now?
zaboomafoo [3k\]: c4 is possible
woohoo1: so b likes to play classical mvoes?
dash [2d\]: it is not the most important area
Elodin [4k\]: k4 shoulder hit seems better then jump to h5
PL [?\]: jego means "his" in polish
Bauer [1d\]: b play classic solid style
weiqidevil [-\]: even a pro plays the obvious move from time to time
bensenseii [-\]: FuzzFace recycle les blagues
Krapsman [2k\]: lol ben
bolbi [-\]: c'est même plus du recyclage, là
zaboomafoo [3k\]: k4 then j4
dash [2d\]: urgent before big. attack is urgent
Krapsman [2k\]: pas besoin d'etre aussi rude
Krapsman [2k\]: lol
Luigi [3d\]: h5
]
;B[ho]C[ichbinvale [2k\]: If you play the obvisious move every time you are pro
woohoo1: h5 was so obvious
woohoo1: how i miss that
Krapsman [2k\]: w will play obvious move too?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: what is the obvious w move?
Krapsman [2k\]: what would be obvious here?
dash [2d\]: there is no nice move to protect the corner and side
PL [?\]: :-)
woohoo1: isnt this funny? all b stones are setup to the center.... and b q11 was useless at all
zaboomafoo [3k\]: g2 I guess
dfsfsdf: e8?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: definately not g2
Krapsman [2k\]: f8?
PL [?\]: Resign is the most obvious :-)
koksik [1d\]: tenuki? :P
PL [?\]: at least the most understandable :-)
woohoo1: w*
dash [2d\]: no g2 with l3
Krapsman [2k\]: I don't see where w plays if tenuki
Krapsman [2k\]: I mean I don't see bigger area
koksik [1d\]: l13 - around there ;P
woohoo1: this is really hard... some 9p best overplayer on the world should take w and play
zaboomafoo [3k\]: maybe k13 now
]
;W[gq]C[Krapsman [2k\]: k13 does look like an easy cut
woohoo1: ke
woohoo1: k3*
dash [2d\]: f4 looks more and more wrong
Luigi [3d\]: dunno, g3 helps against c3
Krapsman [2k\]: maybe w played f4 because he didn't want b san san
woohoo1: but c6 still working
woohoo1: so i guess f4 still wrong
Krapsman [2k\]: and a move like g3 instead of d4 invites to san san
dash [2d\]: also b4?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: g3, so desperate
Krapsman [2k\]: yes I dunno
fbp [7d\]: g3 is normal in this shape
Elodin [4k\]: h2 
blurb1: k3
weiqidevil [-\]: i would also favour h2
fbp [7d\]: whites position is still playable
zaboomafoo [3k\]: k3 was played
Krapsman [2k\]: I don't really like H2
woohoo1: :D
]
;B[jq]C[Liso66 [?\]: fbp how much is w he behind in your opininion? 
woohoo1: 9pts
Ootakamoku [2d\]: fbp, even with bottom left open, isnt g3 kinda of limited use?
woohoo1: k3 is abusing of g3
Krapsman [2k\]: I see quite even territory if w get full bottom left
PL [?\]: this game is amazing
fbp [7d\]: it removes eyeshape
fbp [7d\]: its not about territority
PL [?\]: white is really playing his best
PL [?\]: he deserves to win
woohoo1: lol PL
titoom [1d\]: how much time left for both players ?
woohoo1: i dunno if ur joking or being serious
Krapsman [2k\]: they are both playing their best that's for sure
PL [?\]: being serious is a joke
Ootakamoku [2d\]: fbp, sure but b has no weak groups, so I feel there is no way h5 will become a problem, yet I know I make this mistake often, was recently critized for excacly this by a egf 6dan.
woohoo1: h5 is not completed yet
]
;W[jp]C[Liso66 [?\]: if it is not about territiory - it is about life/death of something ...what? 
woohoo1: is about winning
fbp [7d\]: which egf 6d?
kaanaak [4k\]: how many rounds to be played in the tournament?
woohoo1: b L2
woohoo1: for complet the shape with sucess and sente to play c6
woohoo1: imo
weiqidevil [-\]: i am curious how white will handle the cross cut
Liso66 [?\]: this is 2nd round from 10
Krapsman [2k\]: are you sure b will crosscut?
JEGO [7k\]: yes c6 sente if black plays
weiqidevil [-\]: no i am not
weiqidevil [-\]: but it looks natural to me
woohoo1: l2 better locally
Luigi [3d\]: not in this position
woohoo1: oh god
Krapsman [2k\]: l4 j3 k2 h4 ?
zaboomafoo [3k\]: b j4
woohoo1: black is so solid 
Luigi [3d\]: I mean no for the crosscut
Shinichi56 [-\]: b6 the shape no
Luigi [3d\]: l2 more natural indeed
Shinichi56 [-\]: ?
weiqidevil [-\]: ah ok^^
]
;B[ip]C[Elodin [4k\]: l2 j3 k2 h4 seems too good for w
fbp [7d\]: crosscut cant be a good move^^
Ootakamoku [2d\]: fbp, su yang
]
;W[jr]C[woohoo1: b loves thick
fbp [7d\]: su yang is strong ^^
kevin281 [?\]: j2 and ko ?
fbp [7d\]: but was it this exact shape?
weiqidevil [-\]: but then i don't like k3…
woohoo1: ok now thats tricky
zaboomafoo [3k\]: is a ko coming?
fbp [7d\]: g3 is a standard response to h3, h5 shape
]
;B[gr]C[fbp [7d\]: because otherwise there is many moves for black to get shape, like e2, f2 etc
fbp [7d\]: normally you want black to play h2 then play g6
PL [?\]: this is first time during this game white is attacking
fbp [7d\]: might be another position :p
Ootakamoku [2d\]: fbp, just the concept, that I fail to accept the potential problem for a group that is reaching out to center, even if its strong right now, and even if there are no other weak groups on the board
]
;W[fr]
;B[jo]C[ichbinvale [2k\]: how much time is left for the players?
zaboomafoo [3k\]: w must seize the moment
]
;W[iq]
;B[ir]C[woohoo1: w must get g5 at least
woohoo1: but still not safe 
ichbinvale [2k\]: b aims to attack q11 group
fbp [7d\]: i see ootaka:)
fbp [7d\]: anyway su yang is stronger then me so trust him whatever he said =)
PL [?\]: k3 is important
woohoo1: well w really desperate now
zaboomafoo [3k\]: g6
zaboomafoo [3k\]: I mean l5
woohoo1: this shape is awful
psy1 [6d\]: by g6 you mean l5
]
;W[ko]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: hehe
Romeda [-\]: k3
woohoo1: u can't lie lol
Romeda [-\]: k.o ^^!
weiqidevil [-\]: just k6 or l6 maybe?
zaboomafoo [3k\]: picnic ko for b
]
;B[jq]C[kaanaak [4k\]: fanhui hips dont lie
woohoo1: time for go to the left
woohoo1: or just play solid and fix shape
]
;W[kp]C[woohoo1: knowing fan hui... he will play solid and forgive the left
woohoo1: cus its gote for w play there
woohoo1: then b rush center
PL [?\]: k6
Krapsman [2k\]: forgive you mean forget?
zaboomafoo [3k\]: f6
PL [?\]: he forgives too
]
;B[kr]C[JEGO [7k\]: now fan hui will attack c6
woohoo1: jego, i guess w prefers to play k13 first
PL [?\]: black shape looks like a rabbit
weiqidevil [-\]: lol
woohoo1: defending corner is slow
zaboomafoo [3k\]: k6
zaboomafoo [3k\]: k1
zaboomafoo [3k\]: resign
woohoo1: k1 good spirit
]
;W[lr]C[ichbinvale [2k\]: tenuki
woohoo1: now its terrible for w
PL [?\]: k6 now
zaboomafoo [3k\]: w has next to nothing
woohoo1: k6 imo too
woohoo1: then center is bizarre nothing and c6 gote
woohoo1: the end of the world
woohoo1: what about l6
woohoo1: first
Shinichi56 [-\]: k1 is big too for e3 aji
Krapsman [2k\]: not possible to attack q15?
mozarto [?\]: hi ! how are b and w please ?
PL [?\]: W is Fan Hui and black is Lukas Podpera
tipunch [2k\]: K1 is very big and secure B
woohoo1: L6 and L13 makes w worst and worst
Krapsman [2k\]: b seems a bit better than w on this game
Acolyte974 [7k\]: lol
mozarto [?\]: thanks !
Krapsman [2k\]: or more than a bit
PL [?\]: u re welcome!
Doublewing [5k\]: hard to attack q15 with r 11 in place
kotbes [-\]: Fan Hui is Black ))
woohoo1: he is drinking coca ?
Luigi [3d\]: it's the opposite Mozzarto
clicisclic [5k\]: no, black is fan hui
Luigi [3d\]: and PL, didnt bolbi warned you already?
PL [?\]: stop making jokes with Mozzarto
mozarto [?\]: ok thank you
zaboomafoo [3k\]: drinking his coffee black
ichbinvale [2k\]: b is fan hui!
zaboomafoo [3k\]: interesting choice
woohoo1: his coffe is with sugar or not
woohoo1: ?
kevin281 [?\]: k1
PL [?\]: just kidding Luigi, chill out
Elodin [4k\]: e3
zaboomafoo [3k\]: e3 played
ichbinvale [2k\]: e3 
PL [?\]: focus on game please
ichbinvale [2k\]: ya
woohoo1: PL is lol
woohoo1: ^^
]
;B[eq]C[Luigi [3d\]: he is not lol, he is boring
clicisclic [5k\]: yes, no one to get pl out? thats boring
Krapsman [2k\]: ma ke luigi you are too serious
woohoo1: who keeps wathinc that game wishing to go wc ?
woohoo1: im going now and brb soon
Luigi [3d\]: no, I have respect for people using the phone client
zaboomafoo [3k\]: I like luigi because the way he jumps through the air
woohoo1: that phone glitch wasnt fixed yet?
Krapsman [2k\]: lol PL has been banned
Krapsman [2k\]: go Fan goooo!!!!
ichbinvale [2k\]: e3 nice move...
woohoo1: i agree
zaboomafoo [3k\]: shinichi called it
Krapsman [2k\]: zha you Fan Hui!!
]
;W[dq]C[Elodin [4k\]: c6 ?
zaboomafoo [3k\]: e2
zaboomafoo [3k\]: seems small though
]
;B[cn]C[woohoo1: b was playing calm and solid... this e3 still calm but in the right timing... so professional^^^
Shinichi56 [-\]: hehe
woohoo1:  now c6.. finish him
zaboomafoo [3k\]: d7 only move
Krapsman [2k\]: I am proud he became French :)
zaboomafoo [3k\]: but I fear it's not enough
diva [3d\]: d7 only choice ?
woohoo1: d7 strange
Krapsman [2k\]: d e5?
Elodin [4k\]: d7 seems unreasonable to me
Krapsman [2k\]: d7 e5?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: d7 only choice because cant win unless kill black stone
beerslayer [-\]: wow i played a whole 37 x 37 game and only a few more moves have been made in this game
woohoo1: d6 for take sente and try something on the left
woohoo1: :-)_
Ootakamoku [2d\]: so doesnt really matter if its reasonable or not
Bjondro [8k\]: .
zaboomafoo [3k\]: c8 was unreasonable
Elodin [4k\]: lol Oot, good point
Madzilla [3d\]: D7 E5 resign
Madzilla [3d\]: no point in playing a move which has an obvious refutation
Ootakamoku [2d\]: madzilla, then might as well resign now
Krapsman [2k\]: I agree with Mad
zaboomafoo [3k\]: oot makes a good point
beerslayer [-\]: hmmm so you think c8 should have been c7 eh
woohoo1: good point zaboomafoo
]
;W[bj]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: attempt to remove connection under for b, in sente?
woohoo1: its some try at d13
diva [3d\]: if b tempt to ignore this would be funny
woohoo1: but vage
Elodin [4k\]: this is dangerous
zaboomafoo [3k\]: this will go horribly wrong and result in a dignified resignation
diva [3d\]: e6 or something ^^
Elodin [4k\]: f6
woohoo1: zaboo not much optimistc
Krapsman [2k\]: I wouldn't ignore this if I were b
ichbinvale [2k\]: cut
]
;B[bk]C[woohoo1: c6 still working
woohoo1: so big gote for w
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b just giving away the stone, saying something like, ok, you can have it, just give me all the yose in this area, in sente
diva [3d\]: b will probably catpure in answer to d10 atari
Krapsman [2k\]: you think w will c9?
zaboomafoo [3k\]: too late for k13?
woohoo1: and then e5 will be painful for w
zaboomafoo [3k\]: lol just kidding
]
;W[ck]
;B[bi]
;W[dj]
;B[ci]
;W[bl]
;B[en]C[woohoo1: omg
Ootakamoku [2d\]: I thought b would play calmer, and not e6..
Krapsman [2k\]: ouch
Krapsman [2k\]: this e6 looks painful
zaboomafoo [3k\]: no
zaboomafoo [3k\]: oh for w
zaboomafoo [3k\]: yes
ichbinvale [2k\]: e6 sente cuz of b e4 next
woohoo1: maybe not
Krapsman [2k\]: whats e4 do
woohoo1: d11 is more valuable
zaboomafoo [3k\]: e4 e5 f5 d5 g4 f3 e2
royu [5d\]: easy game for b
woohoo1: e4 e2
woohoo1: :P
greenbean [1d\]: how strong are these 2?
Luigi [3d\]: too strong for me
kaanaak [4k\]: kh
woohoo1: just d11 for try some overplay
beerslayer [-\]: b has an interesting style
kevin281 [?\]: W Podpera Lukas european 6d and W Fan Hui former chinese pro 2d
clicisclic [5k\]: b is chinese 2p, 7 or 8d in france
beerslayer [-\]: a light touch
kevin281 [?\]: *B Fan Hui
greenbean [1d\]: I see thank you.
Mukti [4d\]: The game feels over...
zaboomafoo [3k\]: certainly
greenbean [1d\]: I would resign here as white
Krapsman [2k\]: yeah b will win this one easier than yesterday!
]
;W[el]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: when is the next round?
woohoo1: b4
woohoo1: for solid cash
kevin281 [?\]: tomorow
Krapsman [2k\]: this threatens d11?
Romeda [-\]: e4
Weishenme [4d\]: e4 is not ok
kevin281 [?\]: tomorrow around 10 AM
woohoo1: e4 is wrong use of aji
beerslayer [-\]: why do i keep looking at k17 for white
Krapsman [2k\]: e4 e5 f5 d5 g4 d6 ?
woohoo1: e4 e2
woohoo1: i said it already
Krapsman [2k\]: and w get his corner and side
Ootakamoku [2d\]: want b a10
Weishenme [4d\]: b4 seems natural
]
;B[gn]
;W[di]
;B[dh]C[Weishenme [4d\]: before g6
]
;W[ei]C[Madzilla [3d\]: E2 looks crushing
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b4 now
Ootakamoku [2d\]: oh, b4 doesnty do much
zaboomafoo [3k\]: I'm just not seeing the points
woohoo1: b4 just some extra points 
dfsfsdf: f5
Romeda [-\]: b ahead
Weishenme [4d\]: s2
Weishenme [4d\]: s12 is the dream of b
Krapsman [2k\]: c2
Weishenme [4d\]: s2 
blurb1: e2?
Weishenme [4d\]: sorry
Weishenme [4d\]: s3
woohoo1: wow
Weishenme [4d\]: not s2
dfsfsdf: L13
woohoo1: ok :) lol
woohoo1: but first L13 ?
Krapsman [2k\]: can c2 before e2?
Elodin [4k\]: l13 makes the game more predictable for me
logodude [3d\]: hmm..
]
;B[er]C[woohoo1: 0o
blurb1: ^^
Krapsman [2k\]: w will die
Krapsman [2k\]: :)
Luigi [3d\]: yeah :D
Hellhuman [3d\]: doubt that
Krapsman [2k\]: or at least live gote
woohoo1: or resign
zaboomafoo [3k\]: resign is worse than death
yuuki [1k\]: I doubt W will die as well, but it will be so painful he might resign
WVoron [5d\]: d5
Krapsman [2k\]: d5 d6 d2 f3 b5 ?
woohoo1: he will try some moves... if he lost sente = resign or die ...
zaboomafoo [3k\]: haha that'
zaboomafoo [3k\]: s a depressing sequence
Beef [3d\]: if d5 d6 d2, b will not play f3 but b4 I think
Krapsman [2k\]: or d5 d6 g1?
woohoo1: it will be very sad if b reduces all that w for free and still on sente
woohoo1: its shamefull
Krapsman [2k\]: I see beef
Luigi [3d\]: no, it'd just mean d11 was overplay
zaboomafoo [3k\]: this started out as a modest invasion for b
rollstory [2k\]: white can almost res this game
Beef [3d\]: rather d5 d6 b5
woohoo1: well... he will start his finding a place for res
Beef [3d\]: but still hard
]
;W[dr]
;B[fq]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: d6 now
dfsfsdf: e4
zaboomafoo [3k\]: d6 is a good overplay to resign on
Beef [3d\]: hmm
Patate [-\]: what about e4 then f6?
weiqidevil [-\]: why is d6 an overplay?
]
;W[co]
;B[do]
;W[eo]
;B[dn]
;W[bo]
;B[bn]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: this is pathetic
Beef [3d\]: pain pain
logodude [3d\]: black is very thick
daimaouyun [1k\]: interesting game
yuuki [1k\]: Nothing pathetic, B is 2p
Krapsman [2k\]: w need b3?
Luigi [3d\]: com'on, w will end with 8 pts, that's good! ...
]
;W[bq]C[Weishenme [4d\]: s3 now
stoup [2k\]: A10
Krapsman [2k\]: s3 really that big?
Weishenme [4d\]: or A10 ?
]
;B[aj]C[mozarto [?\]: be respectful please
Beef [3d\]: s3 not necessary now
]
;W[gl]C[Krapsman [2k\]: l13?
yuuki [1k\]: I think B needs to answer this
]
;B[fm]C[Krapsman [2k\]: oh yeah forgot f6 cut
Wang1 [1d\]: W won.
Krapsman [2k\]: thanks Wang
Wang1 [1d\]: yeah
ClackClack [8k\]: as se says w did) 
zyklop [1k\]: ?
Beef [3d\]: b has to find the right spot arond n12
Krapsman [2k\]: As usual your comments are so relevant :)
mozarto [?\]: lol
kevin281 [?\]: funny, se sees B lower left group dead...
stoup [2k\]: L13?
]
;W[kg]C[Wang1 [1d\]: tight move for w.
zaboomafoo [3k\]: nice call
mozarto [?\]: se is not a fortuner
mozarto [?\]: fortune teller
qsg [2k\]: how much time left?
Wang1 [1d\]: 2 days.
logodude [3d\]: uh
mozarto [?\]: is Wang a funny guy usually?
vastolorde: how long have they been playing?
Weishenme [4d\]: k6 ?
LAhvac [-\]: all day
Wang1 [1d\]: yes. mozarto. ^ ^
mozarto [?\]: ;)
zaboomafoo [3k\]: been playing a good hour.5
Krapsman [2k\]: You don't know Wang??
mozarto [?\]: yes, in Tintin
Krapsman [2k\]: That's a shame he will make a pleasure to introduce himself :)
gadsden [3d\]: K11?
]
;B[qf]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: l11
sagaciter [6k\]: europen go congres,nice,who s playing at this table?
mozarto [?\]: i know wang bangs
bensenseii [-\]: I'd say "the players whose names are in the info"
mozarto [?\]: (i'm funny too !)
yuuki [1k\]: W is Lukas Podpera, B is Fan Hui
bensenseii [-\]: But that might be presomptuous
bolbi [-\]: bensenseii : he's using a cell phone
iluvbd [?\]: no korean invaders at this year's egc?
mozarto [?\]: yes lee chang ho
logodude [3d\]: white got nothing
sagaciter [6k\]: thx yuuki
logodude [3d\]: here
Higanbana [?\]: why don't the cell phones show who is playing?
mozarto [?\]: table 3
bensenseii [-\]: bolbi: On voit pas sur le téléphone ?
Wang1 [1d\]:  Q 14 or E 12
bolbi [-\]: non
mozarto [?\]: non
fishtank [3k\]: non
mozarto [?\]: c'est nase
bensenseii [-\]: Mécénul :(
]
;W[pf]
;B[qg]C[Reym [-\]: yes it depends on your kgs client, some don't show this info
bolbi [-\]: Higanbana : ask wms directly
]
;W[pg]C[logodude [3d\]: whhhat
logodude [3d\]: oops
]
;B[fj]C[mozarto [?\]: bensenseii ?
Wang1 [1d\]: wow
iluvbd [?\]: no vid? that's sad
zaboomafoo [3k\]: f8
bensenseii [-\]: mozarto ?
yuuki [1k\]: There is video
mozarto [?\]: je t'aime.
Wang1 [1d\]: so aggressive move.
bolbi [-\]: mozarto : use the private chat please
mozarto [?\]: hehe ok sorry :)
bensenseii [-\]: C'est normal. Back to the game, maintenant
bensenseii [-\]: :)
iluvbd [?\]: no live links oneurogo, yuuki
mozarto [?\]: it echapped me
yuuki [1k\]: http://egc2013.go.art.pl/page/live << This one isn't working ?
Wang1 [1d\]: F8
mozarto [?\]: hardly
iluvbd [?\]: ty
Reym [-\]: yes hardly is the word
mozarto [?\]: ;)
]
;W[eh]
;B[eg]C[stoup [2k\]: fan s'est lever :)
zaboomafoo [3k\]: got to f8
Bauer [1d\]: g10?
zaboomafoo [3k\]: it protects b f8
zaboomafoo [3k\]: but w f8 directly seem solid
Wang1 [1d\]: g 11
Bauer [1d\]: f12 is a severe thread
Patate [-\]: is it authorized to put the head wide over the board?
daimaouyun [1k\]: ofc
stoup [2k\]: W g11
]
;W[gi]C[Weishenme [4d\]: b cannot allow w g11
Wang1 [1d\]: g10, h10
Weishenme [4d\]: g10
Bauer [1d\]: g10 works fine
zaboomafoo [3k\]: seem b + 20 any way you slice it
EGC2013a [?\]: W: 0h:38m  B: 1h:08m
]
;B[gj]C[zyklop [1k\]: w f8 now
]
;W[fg]C[Wang1 [1d\]: This is ...
Dexihno [1k\]: come on Lukas!
Weishenme [4d\]: h11
Wang1 [1d\]: b succeeded in escaping.
zyklop [1k\]: tey should have a break for lunch :)
grrrr [2d\]: h10 instead of f13?
]
;B[fl]C[Shinichi56 [-\]: h10 was not working
Wang1 [1d\]: H 11 now.
grrrr [2d\]: why not?
]
;W[kj]C[Shinichi56 [-\]: h10 f11 f12 g12 h11 d9 f13 e9 ? maybe
Weishenme [4d\]: tengen was slightly bigger :)
Wang1 [1d\]: Where is w from?
Higanbana [?\]: looks tough to reduce
schayan355 [?\]: czechia
Bjondro [8k\]: .
Wang1 [1d\]: Czech Republic
grrrr [2d\]: e9 g9 "maybe" :-)
schayan355 [?\]: h18 enough
Mukti [4d\]: S3 or K1
Weishenme [4d\]: k6 looks like a key point
mozarto [?\]: k11
Wang1 [1d\]: Is w good at ending game?
]
;B[rq]
;W[pl]C[Shinichi56 [-\]: oh right, but im sure there one variation which is working ;)
]
;B[pm]C[grrrr [2d\]: yeah, maybe on board 4 ;-)
Shinichi56 [-\]: you want to play maybe? xd
Weishenme [4d\]: i count 57 pts for b
grrrr [2d\]: sorry only some minutes left
]
;W[md]
;B[mc]
;W[kd]C[Shinichi56 [-\]: should be fine ;)
grrrr [2d\]: hehe
Weishenme [4d\]: w aims at J16
SImikin [1k\]: hey its close right? 
SImikin [1k\]: nice lukan gogogo
grrrr [2d\]: or "maybe" j17
ichbinvale [2k\]: yaeh j16
]
;B[ke]
;W[le]
;B[lc]
;W[id]C[Madzilla [3d\]: B is more than 10pt ahead, it's not close
Weishenme [4d\]: good sequence for W
Weishenme [4d\]: game becoming close
Wang1 [1d\]: nice move
SImikin [1k\]: see madzilla? :)
Madzilla [3d\]: see what?
XRF [1k\]: doubt it ... b still better off
Madzilla [3d\]: I see F12 aji giving B all sorts of possibilities
vastolorde: lol this shit is still going
ichbinvale [2k\]: peep
]
;B[gf]
;W[ff]C[XRF [1k\]: f12
Mukti [4d\]: H11
ichbinvale [2k\]: f12 will be captured
]
;B[hd]C[Weishenme [4d\]: nice
]
;W[ie]
;B[jd]C[Weishenme [4d\]: j17 j18 k17 k18 l17 j14 h15 g15 
tartarin [4k\]: 123 very nice kikachi
]
;W[ic]C[Weishenme [4d\]: no way for w
]
;B[ib]C[Bleh [2d\]: huh?
Bleh [2d\]: what?
XRF [1k\]: see b wins
Weishenme [4d\]: yes tx to the kikashi
]
;W[jc]
;B[kc]C[Weishenme [4d\]: what ?
]
;W[jb]C[schayan355 [?\]: wtf
]
;B[gd]C[Bleh [2d\]: well
zyklop [1k\]: w j14 ?
Bleh [2d\]: w has to save j15 
XRF [1k\]: w so dead
XRF [1k\]: should have resigned 10 steps baclk
ronnyss [4k\]: must ko it?
Weishenme [4d\]: w has g15
Mukti [4d\]: J14 and elarge te fight seems like white's ony hope.
isa [3k\]: J14 
]
;W[if]
;B[fd]C[schayan355 [?\]: f16 would be better
zyklop [1k\]: g15 and the a trade?
]
;W[jg]
;B[bd]C[ronnyss [4k\]: must ko it
yuuki [1k\]: No ko
isa [3k\]: a18 ?
Arteus [1k\]: a18 is only life
Bleh [2d\]: uhm?
tartarin [4k\]: big exchange
Arteus [1k\]: you have to make life and something else to win ;)
]
;W[ab]C[Bleh [2d\]: it isn't even possible to ko after ignore
]
;B[kd]C[schayan355 [?\]: not enough for white
Bleh [2d\]: o7 now or something?
Weishenme [4d\]: easier to count the points now
Bleh [2d\]: or j10 ?
XRF [1k\]: w E9
]
;W[hi]C[Bleh [2d\]: or whateves
ronnyss [4k\]: after all this stuff wb win
]
;B[hf]
;W[hg]C[XRF [1k\]: L6
]
;B[js]C[XRF [1k\]: well, k6 then
]
;W[np]C[Weishenme [4d\]: 54 points for b
mozarto [?\]: is b still ahead?
]
;B[ik]C[XRF [1k\]: yeah, by miles
Mukti [4d\]: Not that much anymore.
Gailu [3k\]: which means?
Gailu [3k\]: (by miles)
Bleh [2d\]: gonna be fun when w wins
Mukti [4d\]: But being a former pro he must have counted his win.
mozarto [?\]: thx mukti
Bauer [1d\]: b only 10 pt ahead
Bauer [1d\]: "only"
schayan355 [?\]: "only"
]
;W[rj]C[XRF [1k\]: only? what is the difference between 1, 10 or 1000 points ... it is ahead
]
;B[rk]
;W[sk]C[XRF [1k\]: see w is desperate
Weishenme [4d\]: w wants a ko ?
]
;B[rm]C[Mukti [4d\]: I count b about 5 ahead, and w is thick.
XRF [1k\]: b can certainly afford a few
Weishenme [4d\]: I count b 59 and w 57
zaboomafoo [3k\]: I can't believe this is still going
XRF [1k\]: agree, zaboo
Higanbana [?\]: how much is komi?
mozarto [?\]: and why?
]
;W[rh]C[Mukti [4d\]: S2
XRF [1k\]: L6
Weishenme [4d\]: k8l8
Weishenme [4d\]: L8
Gailu [3k\]: I'm curious about d1
zaboomafoo [3k\]: w did a nice job while I was away
logodude [3d\]: white gonna win?
zaboomafoo [3k\]: no
]
;B[jj]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: but a for effort
tipunch [2k\]: plan to reduce W territory in place ....
XRF [1k\]: K10 only helped w
zaboomafoo [3k\]: what's wrong w/ l9?
mozarto [?\]: lol
mozarto [?\]: i like this kind of opinion
Luigi [3d\]: l9 is 4 pts gote at best?
XRF [1k\]: no, L8 is better
tipunch [2k\]: pb with left in that case
tipunch [2k\]: for w
]
;W[ji]C[ichbinvale [2k\]: huh?
]
;B[kk]C[Bleh [2d\]: dunno
iluvbd [?\]: there were problems with j12 then f12 
Bleh [2d\]: probably an attempt to be hip
iluvbd [?\]: that is what b was aiming at
Bleh [2d\]: hipp*
XRF [1k\]: bad followed by worse
zaboomafoo [3k\]: double hane is fine
XRF [1k\]: they both must be tired
]
;W[lk]C[mozarto [?\]: lol
Luigi [3d\]: and you just 1k?
mozarto [?\]: or maybe you are?
Luigi [3d\]: sandbagging?
XRF [1k\]: i know
XRF [1k\]: the true 1k
zaboomafoo [3k\]: me too
]
;B[ii]C[XRF [1k\]: consistent
zaboomafoo [3k\]: need to k12
Bleh [2d\]: l11 ?
XRF [1k\]: these 6d and 7d possibly play like 9d one day then 10k the other
Luigi [3d\]: uhuh
Luigi [3d\]: my spider sense is tingling
Bashania [2d\]: lol, XRF ridiculous
mozarto [?\]: yes sure
Bleh [2d\]: oh nvm
mozarto [?\]: 30k even
Bleh [2d\]: w lost
iluvbd [?\]: only way a 9d could play like a 10k is if he was severely dead
Luigi [3d\]: w has to j12?
mozarto [?\]: car accident or sth
zaboomafoo [3k\]: has to k12
Bleh [2d\]: yep...
kevin281 [?\]: or severely drunk...
Bleh [2d\]: ah
Bleh [2d\]: k12 works too
Luigi [3d\]: really?
zaboomafoo [3k\]: j12 lead to double atari
]
;W[jh]C[Luigi [3d\]: it seems k12 works indeed
vademecum [3d\]: but f12 after.....
Luigi [3d\]: k12 protects against f12
iluvbd [?\]: j12 h12 
]
;B[ed]C[Luigi [3d\]: where is XRF now?
Luigi [3d\]: hiding?
zaboomafoo [3k\]: sandbagging
]
;W[eb]C[Luigi [3d\]: lol
]
;B[ij]C[Bashania [2d\]: my XRF is censored...
]
;W[ih]
;B[lj]
;W[ki]C[CageyS [2d?\]: wow EGC is here :D
]
;B[kl]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: b will k6 and win
]
;W[ll]
;B[lm]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: l6
logodude [3d\]: n7
Bleh [2d\]: pretty much has to crosscut or something
logodude [3d\]: l7
zaboomafoo [3k\]: l7 is nice
Bleh [2d\]: well, it doesn't work
Bleh [2d\]: but
Bleh [2d\]: resign sequence
]
;W[nl]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: l7 l6 k7 k6 k9 k8 resign
Bleh [2d\]: black wouldn't play l6..
Bleh [2d\]: just n7 
]
;B[kn]
;W[rr]
;B[sr]
;W[qs]
;B[ml]
;W[mk]
;B[mm]C[Naab [3k\]: I don't see where is white's points coming from to win this :o
Bleh [2d\]: anyway
Bleh [2d\]: black gained more than white did here
FuzzFace [1k\]: lol
Bleh [2d\]: soo, impossible~
ichbinvale [2k\]: w should resign now!
mozarto [?\]: rhooo stop with your advice guys...
zaboomafoo [3k\]: j8 lol
Bleh [2d\]: b will get l18 :<
kevin281 [?\]: w can play a free game with a pro, why resign ? better learn :-)
Gailu [3k\]: it's almost a heart <3
Bjondro [8k\]: haha
insomniac [4k\]: fan makes a horrible mistake on move 190
]
;W[om]C[Weishenme [4d\]: 63 points for b
zaboomafoo [3k\]: it's a black heart
vaansama [2d?\]: (alt3 )
mozarto [?\]:  all these people giving advice, why aren't they playing in the tournament?
insomniac [4k\]: too expensive...
vademecum [3d\]: g4
zaboomafoo [3k\]: too european
Bjondro [8k\]: yep
mozarto [?\]: ah that's why, ok, i thought it was about skill! ;)
insomniac [4k\]: and that too..
blurb1: we should leave some prices for the pros xD
Weishenme [4d\]: 54 points for w including komi
vaansama [2d?\]: do you have a video link please
Weishenme [4d\]: so b+ 9
]
;B[sl]
;W[jn]
;B[io]
;W[ln]C[ichbinvale [2k\]: http://egc2013.go.art.pl/page/live
]
;B[km]C[vaansama [2d?\]: ty
]
;W[ma]
;B[mb]C[kevin281 [?\]: B n2 funny ?
Bleh [2d\]: n19 looked better than it was
Bleh [2d\]: it's gote :(
zaboomafoo [3k\]: n2 win m6
jmd [?\]: n2 doesn't work anymore.
]
;W[ka]
;B[na]C[kevin281 [?\]: ok
]
;W[sf]
;B[qe]C[Weishenme [4d\]: g4
Dita [1d\]: is M1 big?
Weishenme [4d\]: yes
iluvbd [?\]: instead of n2, just m5
Madzilla [3d\]: isn't N5 and M1 kind of miai?
]
;W[gp]
;B[ds]
;W[ep]
;B[fs]
;W[cr]
;B[lo]C[Madzilla [3d\]: oh...
]
;W[mp]
;B[ls]
;W[mr]
;B[sj]
;W[mn]
;B[nn]
;W[mo]
;B[nm]
;W[ol]C[ichbinvale [2k\]: r12 
]
;B[ri]
;W[qh]
;B[nd]
;W[ne]
;B[la]C[Weishenme [4d\]: bhas 67 points
zaboomafoo [3k\]: h10
logodude [3d\]: white has
Weishenme [4d\]: 69 now
]
;W[se]C[logodude [3d\]: 54?
zaboomafoo [3k\]: weis,you mean b will play ko?
]
;B[kb]
;W[ia]
;B[hb]
(;W[oe])
(;W[od]C[Bjondro [8k\]: 53
zaboomafoo [3k\]: s13
Bjondro [8k\]: 54
zaboomafoo [3k\]: play the ko fan
]
;B[ek]
;W[dk]C[logodude [3d\]: white not afraid of ko
Weishenme [4d\]: w has 58 points
Weishenme [4d\]: so b + 11
logodude [3d\]: plus komi?
Weishenme [4d\]: no
logodude [3d\]: k
]
;B[ja]C[logodude [3d\]: so plus 5.5
Weishenme [4d\]: 58 including komi
Bleh [2d\]: SE says +22 though
logodude [3d\]: k
Bleh [2d\]: so you're wrong
logodude [3d\]: ohhh
logodude [3d\]: what
Bjondro [8k\]: black 70+
]
;W[am]
;B[ak]
;W[an]C[logodude [3d\]: nvm
logodude [3d\]: hm...
Weishenme [4d\]: zao gao
logodude [3d\]: whut
]
;B[fi]
;W[fh]C[Weishenme [4d\]: 木已成舟
]
;B[hj]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: b getting ready to ko
logodude [3d\]: 额
FuzzFace [1k\]: cramé pour blanc
FuzzFace [1k\]: b win
]
;W[gg]
;B[ha]
;W[ef]C[iluvbd [?\]: yesterday was bad day for russia. how did alexandr and ilja fare today?
Madzilla [3d\]: W never had a chance...
]
;B[dg]C[Icare [1k\]: when b played s16, he won the game
Exitek [9k?\]: omg Madzilla
base [-\]: . . . 
zaboomafoo [3k\]: well it's true
zaboomafoo [3k\]: if you've been watching
Wang1 [1d\]: g
zaboomafoo [3k\]: w has been fighting uphill whole time
Reym [-\]: my feeling too
]
;W[ac]
;B[ad]
;W[sd]C[Exitek [9k?\]: white had chance
]
;B[rb]C[Madzilla [3d\]: the only place where W managed to pose some problems for B was with J16
]
;W[sh]
;B[fa]
;W[ea]
;B[si]C[Madzilla [3d\]: and he was already too far behind at that point so it didn't really matter
]
;W[oo]
;B[po]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: e15
]
;W[sc]
;B[sb]
;W[oc]
;B[ob]C[Icare [1k\]: s16 look liked pro move, isn'it ? calm and strong
]
;W[ms]
;B[ks]
;W[cs]
;B[es]C[Krapsman [2k\]: Fan away, Fan away
zaboomafoo [3k\]: just e15 already
zaboomafoo [3k\]: my toast is burning
base [-\]: most moves are pro moves Icare, it's just we play them at the wrong times and normally the wrong order
Weishenme [4d\]: I agree
]
;W[ss]
;B[rs]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: lol w
]
;W[hs]
;B[hr]
;W[ss]
;B[ca]
;W[ba]
;B[rs]C[Weishenme [4d\]: shobute
]
;W[gs]
;B[fr]
;W[ss]
;B[nk]
;W[mj]
;B[rs]
;W[qr]
;B[ro]
;W[ss]
;B[sq]
;W[rs]
;B[on]
;W[no]C[Weishenme [4d\]: e15 and b +11
]
;B[ga]C[bobstep [2d?\]: sheik yerbouti
]
;W[go]
;B[fn]
;W[ig]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: ...
Weishenme [4d\]: they don't see e15 or mistake in record ?
]
;B[em]
;W[dl]C[zaboomafoo [3k\]: missed record
zaboomafoo [3k\]: just checked
Weishenme [4d\]: yes I think so
Icare [1k\]: they are counting
Krapsman [2k\]: b + 12.5
Reym [-\]: yes w played e15 at some point
]
;B[de]
;W[ee]C[Krapsman [2k\]: 11.55
Krapsman [2k\]: 11.5
Krapsman [2k\]: not 12
Weishenme [4d\]: 14.31 here
Weishenme [4d\]: 32 now
logodude [3d\]: black win
Krapsman [2k\]: it's growing fast
Krapsman [2k\]: wei shen me?
Weishenme [4d\]: every minute
Weishenme [4d\]: yin wei...
logodude [3d\]: wei shenme
logodude [3d\]: yin wei
EGC2013a [?\]: B + 11.5
logodude [3d\]: suo yi
logodude [3d\]: zi ran you li
Icare [1k\]: too bad we do not have the sound on live
Krapsman [2k\]: yin wei ni tai li hai
Weishenme [4d\]: :)
kevin281 [?\]: thanks for relay EGC
FuzzFace [1k\]: blakc win
FuzzFace [1k\]: yeahhhhhhhhh
Reym [-\]: thansk egc!
Weishenme [4d\]: guo jiang....
logodude [3d\]: le
Weishenme [4d\]: ty gg
logodude [3d\]: black won?
Weishenme [4d\]: and congrats to Fan
EGC2013a [?\]: thx :)
logodude [3d\]: thx
logodude [3d\]: bye
Krapsman [2k\]: told you was 11.5 and not 32...
logodude [3d\]: egc
bolbi [-\]: thank you EGC2013a
Krapsman [2k\]: t'es tetu weishenme
zaboomafoo [3k\]: ya thx egc :)
Weishenme [4d\]: 麾
flowbender [2k\]: next round ?
Krapsman [2k\]: Fan gonna be the best European this year in all tournaments!
Weishenme [4d\]: That is the character for Fan's surname
bolbi [-\]: flowbender : look at EGC2013a's profile
Weishenme [4d\]: HUI
bolbi [-\]: as usual
Krapsman [2k\]: he just take back competition this year isn't it?
Krapsman [2k\]: stopped playing in tournament for a while
kevin281 [?\]: Unless an asian pro takes an european citizenship, Fan surely will be the best european player por some years
Krapsman [2k\]: Fan Hui is French 
Krapsman [2k\]: French citizen now
Krapsman [2k\]: oh sorry just got what you said
Krapsman [2k\]: no
Krapsman [2k\]: his student will beat him badly soon
Krapsman [2k\]: :)
Krapsman [2k\]: students
kevin281 [?\]: Thomas ?
bolbi [-\]: so soon ?
Krapsman [2k\]: if he is a good teacher and I believe he is
Krapsman [2k\]: should be soon
Krapsman [2k\]: :)
kevin281 [?\]: Maybe...
Krapsman [2k\]: haha on verra bien
Krapsman [2k\]: :)
daimaouyun [1k\]: dont forget inseong hwang
daimaouyun [1k\]: the current number one
kevin281 [?\]: En partie sérieuse, ça va pas être de la tarte...
Krapsman [2k\]: does he play this tournamnt?
bolbi [-\]: he's german now ?
tartarin [4k\]: ty egc
Krapsman [2k\]: c'est MM toute facon qui a dit que Fan serait celui qui va survoler les autres cette annee en europe
Krapsman [2k\]: :)
kevin281 [?\]: MM ?
Krapsman [2k\]: milanmilan
Krapsman [2k\]: :)
kevin281 [?\]: Ah ok
Krapsman [2k\]: je l'ai vu commener une partie entre roln et myauntmary
Krapsman [2k\]: et il disait que Fan etait pas mal plus fort qu'Illya et surement le meilleur europeen cette annee
bolbi [-\]: surtout que roln a commencé par perdre
Krapsman [2k\]: ah pas de chance
Krapsman [2k\]: et dinnerstein?
kevin281 [?\]: Fan a battu diner aux éliminatoires du WMSG
bolbi [-\]: aussi
Krapsman [2k\]: et Fan deux victoires deja
Krapsman [2k\]: Allez continue de nous faire rever!
bolbi [-\]: http://egc2013.go.art.pl/EGC2013_main.html
Krapsman [2k\]: merci bolbi!
bolbi [-\]: je t'en prie
Krapsman [2k\]: A plus les amis!
kevin281 [?\]: baïe baïe
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