(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[3x30 byo-yomi]
GN[ EGC 2013 Weekend Tournament, Round 2]PW[Fan Hui]PB[Silt Ondrej]WR[7d]BR[6d]DT[2013-08-03]EV[57th European Go Congress]RO[2]PC[Olsztyn, Poland]US[cehijow]C[WangFei [-\]: Fan win his first game ?
fab [3d\]: Hmm, one of the scribes told us this morning that Fan didn't play this week-end tournament ^^
eureka [5k\]: maybe he changed his mind? :)
fab [3d\]: results of the week-end tournament still aren't on the website, so we can't know :(
WangFei [-\]: maybe Fan just miss the first game 
fab [3d\]: hmm, missing the first game probably means Fan can't win this 4 or 5 round tournament, so I don't think he would want to play in this condition, it was more probably a mistake of the scribe
SuperALMA: what is this tournament ?
fab [3d\]: week-end tournament
julbla [4k\]: the EGC week tournament
]
;B[pq]
;W[dp]
;B[pd]C[MontFuji [5k\]: motoki-san, sais-tu ce qui se passe pour Fan ? do you know what occurs for Fan?
]
;W[dd]
;B[fq]
;W[cn]
;B[ip]
;W[qn]
;B[po]
;W[rp]
;B[ql]
;W[pn]
;B[qo]
;W[ro]
;B[qq]
;W[rm]
;B[on]
;W[pl]
;B[om]
;W[pk]
;B[ko]C[staxkrft: time to go for q16 ?
Wagaboo [2k\]: c'st du moyo ou du teritoire ca ?
SuperALMA: gros territoire
staxkrft: u can invade ?
SuperALMA: qui se dit moyo en japonais
bolbi [-\]: t'es sûr ?
SuperALMA: non
fab [3d\]: territoire, il ne reste plus beaucoup d'aji
staxkrft: il raconte nawack
SuperALMA: SuperNawak
]
;W[nc]C[staxkrft: moyo tu peux envahir, territoire non
staxkrft: je pense
fab [3d\]: another variation is when J4 is at K4, then there is a potential invasion, but sith one more move, probably nothing much here
Bepka: b l5 greedy move
Bepka: r14 better
]
;B[qf]
;W[pb]C[staxkrft: it doesnt looks greedy
]
;B[qi]
;W[qk]C[Wagaboo [2k\]: w looks over concentrated
staxkrft: n17 ?
NicoChiaro [3k\]: n17
]
;B[fc]C[fab [3d\]: looks standard
staxkrft: standart can work pretty well
spargo [6k\]: Fan Hui aime les moyos pour avoir la joie de les pénetrer...
spargo [6k\]: donc pour l'instant, c'est bien son jeu
staxkrft: looks like b has a little advantage ?
]
;W[cf]C[fab [3d\]: there won't be any moyo in this game ^^
WVoron [5d\]: result page?
fab [3d\]: no result page so far :(
NicoChiaro [3k\]: not online yet
spargo [6k\]: just the live page :)
spargo [6k\]: http://egc2013.go.art.pl/page/live
spargo [6k\]: table 2
]
;B[lb]C[staxkrft: what should b do ?
Wagaboo [2k\]: :O
]
;W[qc]C[EGC2013b [?\]: http://egc2013.go.art.pl/weekend.html
]
;B[ob]C[Wagaboo [2k\]: m18  was a trick to take the corner
Wagaboo [2k\]: or have a big side
wry [4d\]: b should n6, makes 5 in a row, then he wins
staxkrft: a backup stone to make the cut available ?
staxkrft: did fan miss that ?
Alast [7k\]: wrong game wry ;)
Alast [7k\]: which cut do you mean stax?
staxkrft: p18
fab [3d\]: never saw the M18 move before, looks nice ^^
Alast [7k\]: dont see a cut there, if w p17
wry [4d\]: o18
staxkrft: p17 q17 thats a cut right ?
Alast [7k\]: then w018
Alast [7k\]: w o18
staxkrft: q18 still cut
Alast [7k\]: p18 captured, no cut :)
staxkrft: r17 w one eye and b corner
]
;W[oc]C[wry [4d\]: fiiiight
SuperALMA: Q17 R18 O18
Alast [7k\]: yeah, just noticed r18 too
SuperALMA: white closed in the corner
SuperALMA: but living
staxkrft: b taking the lead with this
SuperALMA: sure
staxkrft: is w trying to go back top b stones and separate them ?
staxkrft: can he do that ?
staxkrft: 5 space extension looks tricky
gacua [1d\]: What is Silt Ondrej KGS nickname?
wry [4d\]: b taking corner means trouble for top / top left
staxkrft: but w has to extend after b s17 right ?
]
;B[pc]C[Choubam [2k\]: o18 only move no?
staxkrft: w r18 ?
staxkrft: can live with s15
Alast [7k\]: i think r18 too
Alast [7k\]: how about s18?
staxkrft: looks small but theres aji on top
fab [3d\]: r18 o18 n17 n18 s15 ?
SuperALMA: yep
staxkrft: s 18 let q19 availlable
Alast [7k\]: true
staxkrft: possible threat i guess
SuperALMA: after this sequence, black left group can be weak...
]
;W[qb]C[staxkrft: is there anything b can get from left side ?
]
;B[nb]
;W[mc]
;B[mb]
;W[re]C[MariusJ [1k\]: just like O17 R14 and sansan, but with M18 at a very strange place
SuperALMA: black right group can be weak I wanted to say
Choubam [2k\]: left side unintersting for both
]
;B[qe]C[SuperALMA: attackable with S12
staxkrft: d10 looks like a future big point to me
SuperALMA: S12 to slow
Choubam [2k\]: d10 won't be played soon, right and top are the intersting areas
]
;W[ne]C[staxkrft: i think it might be interesting to think what is left after this fight 
Choubam [2k\]: o15 nice
fab [3d\]: O15 is nive ^^
fab [3d\]: nice*
WVoron [5d\]: o15 bad
staxkrft: lol
fab [3d\]: why would it be bad ?
WVoron [5d\]: why nice?
drmert [10k\]: ı like o 15
staxkrft: make w life miai ?
Choubam [2k\]: nice to protect corner by helping outside group
MicMac [2d\]: key point for o17
SuperALMA: this is a standrad joseki, as Fan would say in his KGS lectures....
WVoron [5d\]: w weak groope runiig
fab [3d\]: it's almost like white exchanges o15 for S14
WVoron [5d\]: itc bad
fab [3d\]: can't be bad
MariusJ [1k\]: taking care of cutting stones
staxkrft: who said w intend to run this group ?
Choubam [2k\]: w group not running alone, it's ok
]
;B[rf]
;W[rd]C[dxxd [1d\]: wvoron, so little information
dxxd [1d\]: trolol
WVoron [5d\]: o13
fab [3d\]: see, how can the o15 s14 exchange can be bad for white ?
]
;B[kd]C[WVoron [5d\]: prefer black here
staxkrft: who doesnt ?
Wagaboo [2k\]: i prefer w :p
MicMac [2d\]: r14 not completely safe
staxkrft: but w has potential
fab [3d\]: I prefer black since the P18 move, that doesn't mean O15 was bad
WVoron [5d\]: you all prefer w cos w is fan hui
WVoron [5d\]: lols
Wagaboo [2k\]: NO !
staxkrft: what is fan style play usually ?
WVoron [5d\]: yes
Wagaboo [2k\]: i prefer w because b right is weak
grandaure [5k?\]: fan plays very solid
herissondu [2d\]: i don't care
golways [1d\]: ^^
]
;W[nh]C[staxkrft: solid territory player ?
Wagaboo [2k\]: allez hop arlons francais plutot :p
grandaure [5k?\]: yes
MicMac [2d\]: this looks fair to me
grandaure [5k?\]: oui
Wagaboo [2k\]: regardez noir a droite est mal barré
herissondu [2d\]: blanc est pas ouf non plus
MicMac [2d\]: ca me parait assez equilibrer
wry [4d\]: omelette du fromage
Wagaboo [2k\]: wry...
staxkrft: english is nowadays ligua franca so talking english would be appreciated if about the game ?
Wagaboo [2k\]: wry it's omlette AU gromage
Wagaboo [2k\]: fromage*
lamalama: why is breakfast a small lunch?
lamalama: meaningless questions:))
bolbi [-\]: all languages are welcome in this game. Please do not troll about it
Poney [1d\]: R14 looks awful
herissondu [2d\]: no pienso que la posicion blanca esta agradable
staxkrft: does b has to worry here ?
Poney [1d\]: I guess a little
staxkrft: he's been sealed low
a2g [5k\]: is aga 9d how 6d euro?
staxkrft: p11 ?
Montespan [7k?\]: What about S7 playing
Montespan [7k?\]: ?
staxkrft: theres a stone ?
]
;B[ng]C[Montespan [7k?\]: yes
fab [3d\]: well, top european are in par with top americans, but I don't know how many 9D AGA there are ;)
staxkrft: theres 1p aga now ?
herissondu [2d\]: http://egc2013.go.art.pl/weekend.html
staxkrft: would be nice to have an iso ranking
staxkrft: w have to n13 ?
staxkrft: cannot capture o13 stone
]
;W[og]C[wry [4d\]: n13 n14 ends terribly for w
]
;B[of]
;W[mg]
;B[nf]
;W[mf]C[Poney [1d\]: Now cut N12 or P12 like a gentleman
Poney [1d\]: that is the question
staxkrft: go n12
staxkrft: be greedy
Poney [1d\]: You gotta read it, if you fail everything dies ^^
staxkrft: reading is cheating
Alast [7k\]: lol
dxxd [1d\]: this feels one of those "don't cut, you'll get clustered" kind of things
staxkrft: theres a proverb thats says "dont listen to proverbs"
Luigi [3d\]: ther's a proverb that says "always ignore guests"
lamalama: is there such proverb? ;)
Luigi [3d\]: sure there is :D
lamalama: that must come from some hospital country, like Italy;)
Luigi [3d\]: oups, you failed :D
]
;B[oh]
;W[oi]
;B[pg]
;W[mi]C[Luigi [3d\]: p12 says this cut was maybe not that good :D
staxkrft: that was peacefull
]
;B[hd]C[Luigi [3d\]: p12 is an acknowledgement he did completely wrong
HelloQtion [-\]: O13 wasn't a such good idea so
LeT [-\]: i think b ok whites influence quite useless
]
;W[pi]C[HelloQtion [-\]: I mean there was maybe a better use of w weaknesses
Luigi [3d\]: o15 was quite heavy in the begining, now w almost safe
HelloQtion [-\]: but maybe not ...
Luigi [3d\]: so I agree that b shold have done better
Luigi [3d\]: O13 looks like complete failure to me
dxxd [1d\]: I agree with luigi, w had a few stones, he made shape and b ran in circles and indeed got clustered
dxxd [1d\]: and connected
Luigi [3d\]: is q11 sente?
staxkrft: if ignored w can play r12 ?
staxkrft: or q12 ?
Luigi [3d\]: r12 is points but doesnt kill?
Luigi [3d\]: q12 harder to follow
wry [4d\]: r12 can't kill
]
;B[rj]C[staxkrft: so what is q12 purpose if it doesnt threaten b life ?
]
;W[qh]
;B[rh]C[staxkrft: q11
Luigi [3d\]: maybe q12 could kill if tenuki, just hard to read
]
;W[qj]
;B[ri]C[Luigi [3d\]: now w has sente, where to?
]
;W[ec]C[staxkrft: points :)
Luigi [3d\]: pure Fan style :)
]
;B[fb]C[staxkrft: + fixing ajis
Luigi [3d\]: corner not safe yet
LeT [-\]: time for D10
staxkrft: d2 first ?
nepal999 [1d?\]: d2 seems bigger than d10
staxkrft: build power waiting to boshi an eventual d10 b stone ?
Wagaboo [2k\]: w has the strengh to invade b bottome :)
Wagaboo [2k\]: n11 is power
Luigi [3d\]: yeah, I cant wait to see w l2 :D
]
;W[ph]C[Luigi [3d\]: *l3
staxkrft: he needs lader breakers for that
Poney [1d\]: did b just die ?
staxkrft: b ok
nepal999 [1d?\]: no
Wagaboo [2k\]: r13 p15 t13 
Wagaboo [2k\]: no
Wagaboo [2k\]: r13 t13 p15 n15 t14 
nepal999 [1d?\]: or p15?
Wagaboo [2k\]: just p15 yeah *_*
staxkrft: s12 bigger than o17 ?
]
;B[rk]
;W[pm]C[Poney [1d\]: Ah this liberty will allow w to invade later I guess
]
;B[qd]
;W[no]C[FeuduCiel [10k\]: why q7 and nots8?
]
;B[oo]C[HelloQtion [-\]: poney powa :)
nepal999 [1d?\]: well if w is peeping like this the liberty doesnt really matter much
elligain [4k\]: if s8, on o5 black can cut
elligain [4k\]: no, sorry ^^
]
;W[kq]C[fallweiss [1d\]: K2
]
;B[iq]C[HelloQtion [-\]: b could have answer n6 if there wasn't Q7 no ?
Wagaboo [2k\]: :O i was right about the invasion !
Wagaboo [2k\]: m5  ? :)
staxkrft: b says "i cant let you live here"
Poney [1d\]: yeah probably HelloQtion, or something like this
Sifu [3d?\]: p18 was bad
Sifu [3d?\]: Ondrej should read breakfast's book more carefully
mihi [6d?\]: black looks good till now 
]
;W[lo]
;B[ln]C[Poney [1d\]: Cross cut!
Wagaboo [2k\]: Poney obviously :)
]
;W[mn]C[Poney [1d\]: See not that obvious ;)
Wagaboo [2k\]: :(
Poney [1d\]: Cross cut probably overplay andwould lose points 
Poney [1d\]: I did not read anything ^^
]
;B[lp]
;W[mp]
;B[mo]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: this is a good lesson in how to invade and make shape
]
;W[qg]
;B[rg]
;W[lo]C[Poney [1d\]: Kobayashi opening is tough to invade all the time (i mean properly not to make a dumb heavy dumpling)
Poney [1d\]: problem is that black has no ko threats :)
Rukasu [3k\]: b n7
]
;B[lh]C[Poney [1d\]: W can sacrifice the top right to make the ko bigger probably, or even threaten to damage R3
LeT [-\]: ignore?
]
;W[og]C[Poney [1d\]: Terrible for black ?
Wagaboo [2k\]: yeah
Wagaboo [2k\]: w wins...
Weishenme [4d\]: t17 leads to a ko 
Wagaboo [2k\]: b has to give up something
]
;B[mh]C[Wagaboo [2k\]: oh :O
]
;W[pf]
;B[oe]C[wry [4d\]: kill kiiilll kiiiiiillll
nepal999 [1d?\]: what are we killing?
Weishenme [4d\]: but b has still t17 for a ko in corner
nepal999 [1d?\]: n14? 
Wagaboo [2k\]: i always say to my students, trying to kill is bad
nepal999 [1d?\]: r18?
nepal999 [1d?\]: r 16?
staxkrft: your students ?
LeT [-\]: also t14 absolute sente thus makes life
Weishenme [4d\]: L14 seems natural
Wagaboo [2k\]: yeah :p
Alast [7k\]: not if you actually can :D
Wagaboo [2k\]: my students
nepal999 [1d?\]: kill, or kill not. there is no try
Wagaboo [2k\]: a bunch of 2 digit kyus 
GetStrong [2d\]: xD
nepal999 [1d?\]: i think i'd just n5 now as w
MicMac [2d\]: l14?
FoH [2d\]: hard 4 w
staxkrft: this cut suddendly turn into a giant mess because of fan forcing moves
Weishenme [4d\]: L4
FoH [2d\]: interesting why not p16 for w not q14 
jusiblitz [3k\]: m15?
Wagaboo [2k\]: l15 
Wagaboo [2k\]: L15 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nepal999 [1d?\]: so it's something at the top, or something at the bottom
nepal999 [1d?\]: i vote bottom
drmert [10k\]: p16 first
]
;W[kf]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: :(
]
;B[kg]C[jusiblitz [3k\]: p16 is a bit damezumari
MicMac [2d\]: p16 is for kill
Wagaboo [2k\]: a bit ?
Wagaboo [2k\]: XD
Wagaboo [2k\]: l15  :'(
Wagaboo [2k\]: why didn't fan hui touched the strong group ?
]
;W[me]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: that i didnt expect
Poney [1d\]: This w group lives
Poney [1d\]: with this shape
Poney [1d\]: M13 and P16 can get eyes ^^ Awesome
Krapsman [2k\]: yes seems so
Poney [1d\]: amazing
Krapsman [2k\]: only if b m16
Krapsman [2k\]: but then w escapes
drmert [10k\]: k14 for black
]
;B[sf]
;W[sb]C[Krapsman [2k\]: k14 l15 k15 m13 l12 m16 ?
Hey [2k\]: s17?
nepal999 [1d?\]: w lives in sente and then kills the right
staxkrft: t9 still there
]
;B[rl]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: so b has problem
]
;W[mo]C[TheSun [1k\]: b has problem - how to win?
Zickkun [3k\]: looks like goto life to me
]
;B[ke]C[Poney [1d\]: It's fine, you can let the tears flow Silt, w just got absolutely everything
staxkrft: n5 is a problem
]
;W[jf]
;B[jh]C[herissondu [2d\]: k13
]
;W[jg]C[staxkrft: m14
]
;B[hh]
;W[hf]C[Poney [1d\]: When w has time he'll play S3
jusiblitz [3k\]: m14? Then m13
Poney [1d\]: s2 maybe
staxkrft: g14 ?
]
;B[mr]
;W[lq]
;B[mq]
;W[kp]
;B[kn]
;W[mm]
;B[kl]
;W[lk]
;B[nj]
;W[ni]
;B[kk]
;W[lj]
;B[nl]C[Blair [4k\]: who wanted to play d10 50 moves before ?
]
;W[ml]C[ouioui: not me )
elligain [4k\]: e18is better as d10, no ?
]
;B[jr]
;W[id]
;B[ic]
;W[gd]C[drmert [10k\]: no
]
;B[he]
;W[ge]
;B[hc]
;W[ih]
;B[ii]
;W[ig]
;B[kh]C[Poney [1d\]: in so few moves the game looks so favorable to white, impressive
Wang1 [1d\]: ?
]
;W[hi]C[Poney [1d\]: What ?
]
;B[jj]C[Poney [1d\]: Gigantic left side now
gorga [1d?\]: ?
go [2d?\]: ?
bobstep [2d?\]: cornel beat breakfast
wry [4d\]: ¿
Poney [1d\]: nah
]
;W[ij]
;B[ji]
;W[le]C[Poney [1d\]: Cornel ate him
bobstep [2d?\]: pretty much
tinca [-\]: B has good prospects
Poney [1d\]: I wouldn't count on it :)
drmert [10k\]: k5 for whit?
]
;B[hj]
;W[gi]C[Poney [1d\]: W is secure everywhere and has reduced b already, so nice for him
MooDoGo [3k\]: weak points for white c17; c10; c3?!
]
;B[cl]C[tinca [-\]: I wouldn't too
]
;W[dr]C[Krapsman [2k\]: d2?
MooDoGo [3k\]: this game isn't over!
HelloQtion [-\]: at this point, we can notice P16 wouldn't have been a good idea
]
;B[gj]
;W[fi]C[MooDoGo [3k\]: territorial equal
]
;B[ci]
;W[fj]
;B[gl]C[pacman3 [3k\]: dinerchtien lost
Poney [1d\]: P16 when ?
gorga [1d?\]: i also like w
pacman3 [3k\]: dinerstein
]
;W[eb]C[Krapsman [2k\]: I see w ahead by 2 or 3 pts on the board
]
;B[er]
;W[cq]C[pacman3 [3k\]: se w+9,5
]
;B[sd]
;W[rc]
;B[se]
;W[ra]
;B[bg]
;W[cg]
;B[mk]
;W[ll]
;B[oj]
;W[pj]C[tinca [-\]: two w groups to almost bare 2 eyes
Krapsman [2k\]: why is b making this kind of yose moves now?
]
;B[rq]C[elligain [4k\]: why p10 ?
]
;W[sp]C[wry [4d\]: force w to live
elligain [4k\]: but it was ko threat
]
;B[bh]
;W[fk]C[MicMac [2d\]: krapsman: there is no more move just yose now
]
;B[hm]C[MicMac [2d\]: all group looks safe now
elligain [4k\]: but e19 so big
]
;W[bl]C[elligain [4k\]: seems* so big
]
;B[bk]
;W[bm]
;B[bf]
;W[be]
;B[dk]C[bobstep [2d?\]: shiksin by resign over lisy pavol
]
;W[jo]
;B[jn]
;W[lr]
;B[ep]C[wry [4d\]: seems very close
]
;W[eo]C[CoffeeTime [3k?\]: fan has a good yose :)
]
;B[fo]
;W[en]
;B[fn]
;W[fm]C[herissondu [2d\]: b+4
Krapsman [2k\]: it is very close 
benjLimius [4k\]: i just realised Lisy is male
Krapsman [2k\]: not 4 pts
Krapsman [2k\]: like 1.5 pts
Weishenme [4d\]: P2 huge
]
;B[dh]
;W[gm]
;B[bd]C[WVoron [5d\]: black +
WVoron [5d\]: ?
Sifu [3d?\]: b great spirit
]
;W[ae]C[WVoron [5d\]: yes
WVoron [5d\]: why here he is on top grope?
]
;B[hn]C[WVoron [5d\]: in first 16 i mean
WVoron [5d\]: ?
]
;W[eg]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: i dont get b16
]
;B[fd]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: did b just give away points?
MooDoGo [3k\]: no, creating aji
MooDoGo [3k\]: reduction
HelloQtion [-\]: different tournament (w-e one) WVoron, so different player list 
]
;W[de]
;B[af]
;W[or]C[Poney [1d\]: M2
HelloQtion [-\]: h8 is a funny move
meuns [1d\]: cornel won ?
Poney [1d\]: P2*
Weishenme [4d\]: a14 so gote..
CoffeeTime [3k?\]: dat move
Weishenme [4d\]: and small
MilanMilan [9d\]: w+r
]
;B[oq]C[bobstep [2d?\]: cornel won
CoffeeTime [3k?\]: fan win
Idn [3d\]: a14 for live non?
meuns [1d\]: did you already play fan hui milan ?
]
;W[ms]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: i dont get a14 and b16 here
Weishenme [4d\]: n1 or O3 ?
]
;B[nq]
;W[ns]C[CoffeeTime [3k?\]: b dead?
]
;B[pr]C[Krapsman [2k\]: t3?
Sifu [3d?\]: p2 huge
wry [4d\]: w b10 without a14 seems dangerous
CoffeeTime [3k?\]: b is just dead now
elligain [4k\]: r4
]
;W[sq]
;B[nr]
;W[os]
;B[ps]C[Krapsman [2k\]: alive
GetStrong [2d\]: uh
Krapsman [2k\]: but in pain
Weishenme [4d\]: good sente sequence for w
go [2d?\]: s2 lives
Sifu [3d?\]: b can easily live, but lost the game
]
;W[ls]
;B[rr]C[Poney [1d\]: lost all the points
chestr [2d\]: big yea
Weishenme [4d\]: yes but what an humiliation ( locally :))
Krapsman [2k\]: t2 o4 
]
;W[sr]C[Krapsman [2k\]: huge reduction from w
]
;B[qp]
;W[hl]C[Acolyte974 [7k\]: alive
]
;B[il]C[Mukti [4d\]: W ahead on the board, hopeless.
Weishenme [4d\]: e2 seems possible if w is a " gamer "
]
;W[fa]
;B[ga]
;W[ea]C[CoffeeTime [3k?\]: fan strong yose
]
;B[gc]
;W[ff]C[herissondu [2d\]: and strong chuban
dparcoit [3k\]: the better player in eu 
]
;B[eq]C[CoffeeTime [3k?\]: with dai junfu :)
]
;W[dq]C[dparcoit [3k\]: agree 
]
;B[cm]C[CoffeeTime [3k?\]: D3 : look like "i win :D"
]
;W[bo]
;B[al]
;W[an]
;B[ed]
;W[dc]C[elligain [4k\]: g9
EGC2013b [?\]: not sure about moves
]
;B[fe]
;W[gf]C[TaoToKing [9k\]: wath mean not sure?
HelloQtion [-\]: :)
KiraLNear [2d\]: play some random moves and declarse the results :)
huppa: wrong order
]
;B[eh]C[TaoToKing [9k\]: k ^
HelloQtion [-\]: So far it's only yose, just tell us if a wild tesuji appear
]
;W[dm]
;B[ck]
;W[hk]
;B[ik]
;W[gk]
;B[fh]
;W[gh]C[disturbing [1d\]: I didn't realize this game was still going!
]
;B[ek]C[GetStrong [2d\]: only xD
]
;W[el]C[Sifu [3d?\]: ewww
antijole [3k\]: k4
]
;B[jp]
;W[jd]
;B[jc]C[huppa: b-5........d-7
]
;W[je]
;B[ld]
;W[gn]C[Mollusque [4d\]: i count w 51.5 b 48
]
;B[go]C[EGC2013b [?\]: i lost one exchange, sorry
Krapsman [2k\]: me too mollusque
]
;W[ej]C[Poney [1d\]: Still b did well then
alfuij [-\]: white d8 b?
Mollusque [4d\]: I'm maybe wrong then xD
]
;B[dj]C[Poney [1d\]: I would have though w could have been more ahead after the Q14 tragedy
]
;W[dg]C[Poney [1d\]: Maybe he played just safe too
HelloQtion [-\]: Not problem EGC, scribing is a hard job :)
]
;B[md]
;W[nd]C[WVoron [5d\]: w+2-3 points
]
;B[fg]C[Poney [1d\]: m17 has value
wry [4d\]: counted w+4.5
]
;W[sl]
;B[sk]
;W[sm]
;B[ee]
;W[ef]C[Bashania [2d\]: w+2-3 means w loses?
WVoron [5d\]: wining
CoffeeTime [3k?\]: no w win
]
;B[ds]C[Mollusque [4d\]: i count w+3.5
]
;W[cs]
;B[es]
;W[lc]
;B[kc]
;W[np]
;B[op]
;W[rs]
;B[qs]C[wry [4d\]: k1 
]
;W[lm]
;B[km]C[disturbing [1d\]: btw, how does the egc choose the supergroup?
Poney [1d\]: p19?
WVoron [5d\]: top 16
]
;W[oa]
;B[na]
;W[pa]C[Mukti [4d\]: I count w~6,5
WVoron [5d\]: on rating list
Amadomio [4d\]: me too
CoffeeTime [3k?\]: J10
KongZi [-\]: top 16 of citizen from europe after Round 7 for the main tournament
]
;B[ie]C[KongZi [-\]: top 8 srry
WVoron [5d\]: lol
]
;W[js]
;B[is]
;W[ks]C[Mukti [4d\]: I count w~6,5
WVoron [5d\]: g13
herissondu [2d\]: same for me 6.5
]
;B[ij]C[chrayma [7k\]: N10
]
;W[jq]C[herissondu [2d\]: 48-54..5
]
;B[ch]
;W[ei]
;B[ak]
;W[am]C[disturbing [1d\]: n10 isn't a point, is it
]
;B[pe]
;W[pg]C[MariusJ [1k\]: isn't
]
;B[nk]
;W[li]C[HelloQtion [-\]: N10 is a dame and will be w sente even if b play it :)
]
;B[ss]C[CoffeeTime [3k?\]: g13
]
;W[kb]
;B[jb]
;W[rs]C[ohlord [1d\]: g13,j14 miai
]
;B[ao]
;W[ap]
;B[ss]C[Sifu [3d?\]: g13 
Mollusque [4d\]: at the end it's a fair win for w
]
;W[si]C[Icare [1k\]: confortable win for w
]
;B[sh]
;W[rs]
;B[if]
;W[hg]
;B[ss]
;W[ir]
;B[hr]
;W[rs]
;B[cr]
;W[br]
;B[ss]
;W[nm]
;B[ol]
;W[rs]C[Minjhou [9k\]: m13
Sifu [3d?\]: w+5
]
;B[od]
;W[lf]
;B[ss]
;W[ka]
;B[ja]
;W[rs]
;B[bs]
;W[as]
;B[ss]C[herissondu [2d\]: more
MariusJ [1k\]: white has more than komi
]
;W[gb]
;B[hb]
;W[rs]
;B[rn]
;W[sn]
;B[ss]
;W[ha]
;B[ia]
;W[rs]
;B[ce]
;W[cd]
;B[ss]
;W[la]
;B[ma]
;W[rs]
;B[ad]
;W[ce]
;B[ss]C[Mollusque [4d\]: w has one more ko threat ?
]
;W[kb]
;B[ka]
;W[rs]C[Mollusque [4d\]: b pass
]
;B[ir]
;W[ss]
;B[di]
;W[lp]
;B[kj]
;W[gg]
;B[lg]
;W[ki]
;B[ok]
;W[nn]
;B[qm]C[Mollusque [4d\]: w+8.5
HelloQtion [-\]: 330+ mv 
Krapsman [2k\]: official result?
herissondu [2d\]: w+8.5
jocelyn [3k\]: thx egc2013, good job
benjLimius [4k\]: the eastern side looks so dense!
Krapsman [2k\]: nice still straight wins for Fan
EGC2013b [?\]: W+9,5
way2go [?\]: thanks EGC
MariusJ [1k\]: another game today ?
EGC2013b [?\]: i lost b6 black stone
eureka [5k\]: thanks EGC
MariusJ [1k\]: yeah thanks
Montespan [7k?\]: TY every body
Alast [7k\]: nice game
HelloQtion [-\]: Thank you EGC
radagast1 [10k\]: thx
EGC2013b [?\]: you're welcome :)
alfuij [-\]: thx
chagi [2k\]: Thank you EGC
herissondu [2d\]: next game at 17:00
CoffeeTime [3k?\]: thank you :)
disturbing [1d\]: how many hours is it until 17h?
herissondu [2d\]: 1h30
disturbing [1d\]: thanks
globax [3d\]: thank you egc2013b !
Lindsey [5d\]: did Ali Jabarin win his game?
])