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RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[3600]OT[1x10 byo-yomi]
GN[European Youth Championship 2011 (Under 20)]PW[Roman Ruzhanskyj]PB[Ali Jabarin]WR[2d]BR[6d]DT[2011-03-11]RO[1]PC[Brno, Czech Republic]C[Jinni [2k\]: sweet alis playing
kelpfrond [1d\]: huh? Isn't ali too old for EYGC?
aap [1d\]: yoyoyo
Ukasuhs [2d\]: 6d vs 2d and 5d vs 1k
Ukasuhs [2d\]: seems fair :P
Jinni [2k\]: how old is he 18
kelpfrond [1d\]: or is that unofficial 16-18 division? (if ali qualifies even for that..)
aap [1d\]: young championship
mpepe16 [5d\]: Use your eyes,under 20.
kelpfrond [1d\]: ah, so they made a new category
Jinni [2k\]: sometimes i forget to use my eyes thanks for the reminder
aap [1d\]: yeah
aap [1d\]: MURUGANDI IS THAT YOU?
Foolish [4k\]: Go Ali!!!!!!!
Foolish [4k\]: oh my god I just entered this game to watch I had no idea Ali was playing here
Jinni [2k\]: alis gonna crush this guy
Jinni [2k\]: like a peanut
qrqr [3d\]: i was gonna say demolish
Foolish [4k\]: yup
Jinni [2k\]: crush is more apropos
Minoru [?\]: hmm
Minoru [?\]: both games seem one sided :(
Minoru [?\]: if even
Jinni [2k\]: of course its even
Foolish [4k\]: lol
Foolish [4k\]: it seems lke b got the lead
Minoru [?\]: When do the games start?
Foolish [4k\]: actually W does
EuroGoTV1 [-\]:  videostream from European Championship: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 
Foolish [4k\]: probably by around 6.5 moku
Minoru [?\]: 7.5 actually
Minoru [?\]: some would argue that white will still be winning after blacks first move.
bobstep [7k\]: b has sente
MrTired [8k?\]: they're sure taking their time for this first move
Minoru [?\]: but plans to take big gote point
Minoru [?\]: passive
MrTired [8k?\]: why say something starts if it has not started
Minoru [?\]: should attack. k10
Foolish [4k\]: the game started?
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;B[dp]
;W[pd]
;B[dc]
;W[pq]
;B[po]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
Foolish [4k\]: well yea I noticed that :P
Foolish [4k\]: also Im watvching the stream, Go Ali!
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;W[pl]C[Honeycake [3k\]: hey harry how are you?
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;B[mp]
;W[oo]
;B[on]
;W[no]
;B[pp]
;W[oq]
;B[qq]
;W[qr]
;B[op]
;W[np]
;B[nq]C[Jinni [2k\]: b wins'
Foolish [4k\]: nice
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;W[nr]
;B[mq]
;W[nn]C[inlite [4k\]: resign now )
Foolish [4k\]: don't be so sure
Ukasuhs [2d\]: s2?
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;B[rr]C[kamigodo [4k\]: it might lead to nice outcome for B
Minoru [?\]: I see all good outcomes for b....but still playable for white
ivank [9k\]: Roman is Karnesun on KGS, 6d KGS
kamigodo [4k\]: ali is a 7d kgs if i am corrent
aap [1d\]: y
Bart88 [5k\]: weaker player should avoid complicated joseki
ivank [9k\]: so, it is fair =)
kamigodo [4k\]: ali will eat this dude alive :)
ivank [9k\]: let's see) 
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;W[pr]C[Minoru [?\]: r4  seems too bad. s3 seems a little bad
Minoru [?\]: else seems fail oO
kamigodo [4k\]: giving black to a stronger player is just wrong 
Foolish [4k\]: yup
Foolish [4k\]: sure is
kamigodo [4k\]: but i liked that move for white.
kamigodo [4k\]: best possible i think
greghg: honte
rkda [6k\]: fairly common in tournament play, each game is randomized without reguard to level
Foolish [4k\]: gote though
Foolish [4k\]: what could B be thinking?
kt123 [3d\]: r2 is trick play
bobstep [7k\]: don't think it is gote
kamigodo [4k\]: he thinks about N2
Foolish [4k\]: its too risky
Minoru [?\]: b is fine. is thinking if protect s4 then n2  how can he
Minoru [?\]: settle favorably.....
Foolish [4k\]: his right group could be in danger
greghg: is s4 just weak?
kamigodo [4k\]: N2 might still kill ^^
Foolish [4k\]: yea
Ukasuhs [2d\]: how could n2 possibly kill
kamigodo [4k\]: or live in gote and strangth B right
Minoru [?\]: w has easy life at s3
Foolish [4k\]: good point
Foolish [4k\]: not really
kamigodo [4k\]: even if S3 for write is "easy life
Foolish [4k\]: S3, R4,T2,S1
kamigodo [4k\]: i dont think it would be much good
Foolish [4k\]: that's one eyes
Ukasuhs [2d\]: atari from s1
Ukasuhs [2d\]: not from t2
Minoru [?\]: s1 
Minoru [?\]: not t2
Foolish [4k\]: the kyus have spoken :P
kamigodo [4k\]: again, small life, and b got left wall and after O7 strong right group
Foolish [4k\]: N2 isn't good
Minoru [?\]: B s4 settles blacks group and
Minoru [?\]: white will still live small
Foolish [4k\]: because of Q6
Foolish [4k\]: lol
kamigodo [4k\]: wait and see :)
Foolish [4k\]: I know why Ali si taking his time
Foolish [4k\]: the oponent isn't even there
kamigodo [4k\]: what do you mean ^^?
Jinni [2k\]: how is w kgs 6d but only 2d irl
Foolish [4k\]: he went to the bathroom or something
Minoru [?\]: does anyone have any guesses besides n2 s4
Minoru [?\]: n2 or s4 that is
Foolish [4k\]: nope
kamigodo [4k\]: S3
kamigodo [4k\]: :X?
Welvang [7d\]: would like to be there T-T
kamigodo [4k\]: O7 also possible
Minoru [?\]: s4 seems worse shape
Ukasuhs [2d\]: o7 q6
semicolon [7k\]: jinni: rank inflation :D
kamigodo [4k\]: true
kamigodo [4k\]: ^^
Foolish [4k\]: the oponent had come back
Minoru [?\]: o7 q6 and black can capture o5 
Foolish [4k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Foolish [4k\]: watching it live
go1d [6d\]: s4 only move
Minoru [?\]: I was thinking about o7 but. white will not let black capture o5, so then black will come back to s4 anyway and
Minoru [?\]: the o7 m6 exchange only worsens
Minoru [?\]: the situation after white n2 
kamigodo [4k\]: after S4 white seem to be in a pretty good situation.
Foolish [4k\]: now neither opponents are playing
Foolish [4k\]: dang
kamigodo [4k\]: ^^
kamigodo [4k\]: is he using ali's time?
kamigodo [4k\]: or the clock is off?
Foolish [4k\]: ther'e both taking a dump or soemthing
Foolish [4k\]: Ali's time
kamigodo [4k\]: oh well :X
kamigodo [4k\]: super lame :X
Foolish [4k\]: well its Ali's falt
Foolish [4k\]: he didn't play
Foolish [4k\]: I met Ali but never got to play him
Minoru [?\]: hmm so something like
kamigodo [4k\]: long time ago i played with him 
kamigodo [4k\]: back then he was 2-3k ^^
Foolish [4k\]: lol I never knew what Go was back then
kamigodo [4k\]: still a chield, we played in real world 
kamigodo [4k\]: even played one colur go :)
Foolish [4k\]: wtf?! ustream crashes my Flash every 5 second
Minoru [?\]: s4 p1 r1 n2 what will black do?
kamigodo [4k\]: :X
Foolish [4k\]: and I was in the middle of a One Piece episode
kamigodo [4k\]: why B R1? :X
Foolish [4k\]: yea?
Minoru [?\]: err
kamigodo [4k\]: b will N2 
kamigodo [4k\]: but white will want the same
baowmanu13: ทำไมไม่เล่นกันอาคับ
Minoru [?\]: hmmm well
Minoru [?\]: s4 n2 
kamigodo [4k\]: i think white can just N2 first
Minoru [?\]: is the same question
kamigodo [4k\]: yes, then B in abit of truble
Minoru [?\]: I wa debating it I think
baowmanu13: เล่นดิ
Foolish [4k\]: play!!
kamigodo [4k\]: ^^
Foolish [4k\]: is anyone watching the stream? are they present?
athenus [8k\]: cant find their stream
Minoru [?\]: its as if the world has come to an end.
Foolish [4k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Proffffff [12k?\]: yes but in delay
Foolish [4k\]: or enter ustream
Foolish [4k\]: Im bored -_-
kamigodo [4k\]: i am tierd
greghg: cmon B, tenuki
Minoru [?\]: then try and figure out how black will respond to n2 :p
kamigodo [4k\]: i am at the uni and my teacher is talking about Booring stuff again
Minoru [?\]: s4 n2 tenuki?
greghg: :D
greghg: stuff is so booring it needs capital leter
kamigodo [4k\]: he will probebly start with N5 sente and then jump
Minoru [?\]: o7 is interesting though
Foolish [4k\]: lol
Foolish [4k\]: kamigod, what lesson?
kamigodo [4k\]: o7 Q6 is trublesome
kamigodo [4k\]: "punishments" at law school
Foolish [4k\]: lol
Minoru [?\]: not so trouble some after
Foolish [4k\]: "first we'll learn about who we hang"
Foolish [4k\]: "people who piss us off"
Minoru [?\]: s4 
kamigodo [4k\]: in israel? just lock people up, for anything..
athenus [8k\]: on the eurogotv1 stream i see the board 2
Minoru [?\]: if b first forces after n2 at p1
Minoru [?\]: black is fine after q6
Foolish [4k\]: well how about punishing the guy who ran over a girl to death and only got like a 1000NIS ticket
kamigodo [4k\]: there is somthing to what you say
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;B[rp]C[Ukasuhs [2d\]: you mean s4 n2 p1?
kamigodo [4k\]: S4
athenus [8k\]: my move =)
greghg: he made a move
Foolish [4k\]: THANK YOU!
kamigodo [4k\]: now N2
Minoru [?\]: yes. to
Foolish [4k\]: everyone's :P
Minoru [?\]: make r1 sente after
kamigodo [4k\]: later on of seem fine
Minoru [?\]: o7 q6 exchange
Minoru [?\]: then running fight
Foolish [4k\]: N2
Minoru [?\]: between p6 p7 o7  and whites clump
Welvang [7d\]: if he fall i lol
Foolish [4k\]: or 01
Foolish [4k\]: P1
Foolish [4k\]: welvang, have you ever played OohAah?
Welvang [7d\]: never played
OverNight [7k\]: :)
Minoru [?\]: how can white not know his response to s4
Minoru [?\]: at this point
Foolish [4k\]: OohAah is Ali and he's 7d KGS
kamigodo [4k\]: he wasn't near the board ? :)
Welvang [7d\]: i know
Proffffff [12k?\]: what game we see on-streming?
Foolish [4k\]: alrighty ^^
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;W[mr]C[Welvang [7d\]: and if i had more money I would be at this championship -.-
Foolish [4k\]: the guys I think who are 3 boards away from the camers
Proffffff [12k?\]: oh
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;B[nm]C[Minoru [?\]: wooo
Proffffff [12k?\]: tha's not good!
kamigodo [4k\]: yeap
Minoru [?\]: go o7
Foolish [4k\]: wooo
kamigodo [4k\]: Q6 calling for exchange
kamigodo [4k\]: B n6
Jinni [2k\]: m5
kamigodo [4k\]: m5? :X
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;W[lo]C[Foolish [4k\]: why not?
Foolish [4k\]: lol
Minoru [?\]: yes after q6 exchange it will still be running fight
Minoru [?\]: so important to run....
Foolish [4k\]: coward
Foolish [4k\]: Tenuki now
kamigodo [4k\]: p1?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: pairing U20: http://ivan.kostka.sweb.cz/EYGC-2011/PAIR20.TXT
Jinni [2k\]: no
Foolish [4k\]: Q7?
kamigodo [4k\]: q7 is nice
Jinni [2k\]: maybe l3
kamigodo [4k\]: N7 first
aap [1d\]: onze nederlandse hoop is er ook dus 
Foolish [4k\]: correct
bobstep [7k\]: q7 sacrifices n3
Foolish [4k\]: whatever aap just say
Foolish [4k\]: I agree
Jinni [2k\]: he said 4ks are foolish
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Foolish [4k\]: well yes I am :D
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: U16: http://ivan.kostka.sweb.cz/EYGC-2011/PAIR16.TXT
EuroGoTV1 [-\]:  U12: http://ivan.kostka.sweb.cz/EYGC-2011/PAIR12.TXT
Foolish [4k\]: how dod you though?
Foolish [4k\]: did*
aap [1d\]: ahaha
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;B[kq]C[Minoru [?\]: q6 or else it is not a fair fight......
Foolish [4k\]: bored again!! ><
Minoru [?\]: or maybe m2....I think no.
Foolish [4k\]: thank you ^^
Jinni [2k\]: i knew l3
Foolish [4k\]: of course you did
Jinni [2k\]: i said it
Foolish [4k\]: Im kidding
Jinni [2k\]: im not
Foolish [4k\]: םץO
Foolish [4k\]: o.O
Minoru [?\]: afsdfsgfs
Foolish [4k\]: hsdnlfa
Minoru [?\]: and I was about to finish...
Minoru [?\]: err
Minoru [?\]: I mean
Minoru [?\]: what
Foolish [4k\]: that's right I said it
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;W[lr]
;B[kp]C[Foolish [4k\]: quick response
Minoru [?\]: only move.
Foolish [4k\]: yup
Jinni [2k\]: m2
Jinni [2k\]: oh
Foolish [4k\]: oh my god just teniki already!
Foolish [4k\]: tenuki*
Minoru [?\]: tenuki is ridiculous 
Foolish [4k\]: well im bored and I want tennuki!!!
Minoru [?\]: a move in an open area of the board is worth 7.5 points apparently.
Minoru [?\]: there is a lot more at stake here.
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;W[lm]C[Foolish [4k\]: who cares, Im bored!
Foolish [4k\]: lol :P
]
;B[om]C[Foolish [4k\]: isn't that more important?
hypoetical [1d\]: seems better for black
Jinni [2k\]: b is succesful
Ukasuhs [2d\]: ya, definitely good for black
Foolish [4k\]: ^^
Ukasuhs [2d\]: though
Minoru [?\]: the fight is working well with d4
RobertT [-\]: maybe you should ask eurogo if he could tell the players to play more interesting moves because foolish is getting bored.
Ukasuhs [2d\]: should b l2 before this?
athenus [8k\]: what would be the best move to attack q8
Jinni [2k\]: b can l2 any time
Jinni [2k\]: unless w does
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;W[kr]C[Foolish [4k\]: umm perhaps the start point
Foolish [4k\]: really?
Foolish [4k\]: was that necessary?
prohogiy [9k\]: l2 danger kill group : )
RobertT [-\]: yes
Foolish [4k\]: can't he just Tennuki!!
Ukasuhs [2d\]: w really didnt want b to play l2 in sente
Foolish [4k\]: god I hate him
Jinni [2k\]: where would he tenuki
RobertT [-\]: foolish would tenuki to u20
Minoru [?\]: a19
Foolish [4k\]: I don't know
Minoru [?\]: vital
Foolish [4k\]: I just like saying it for no apparent reason
Foolish [4k\]: L2 was a good move :P
Q161 [?\]: silence peon
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;B[iq]C[Minoru [?\]: why didn't black play l2 sente?
Ukasuhs [2d\]: playing too fast maybe
Jinni [2k\]: p7 is big
Minoru [?\]: hmm
prohogiy [9k\]: he think attack n6 group
Minoru [?\]: maybe black is happier to play like this
Ukasuhs [2d\]: but ya, b cant complin about this
Minoru [?\]: and gain influence
Jinni [2k\]: l2 was sente tho
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;W[jn]C[Foolish [4k\]: or perhaps he is high
Minoru [?\]: yes but then
Nino [1k\]: else white might sacrifice
Q161 [?\]: i think l2 first is better as well 
Foolish [4k\]: yes, I said it to annoy people
Minoru [?\]: b has no stone at j3.
Q161 [?\]: wish i knew what ali was thinkin
Foolish [4k\]: I know
Foolish [4k\]: god Im hungry!
Jinni [2k\]: hes wondering why the 4k wants him to tenuki
RobertT [-\]: ali is trying to figure out if he left his oven on.
Susira [3d\]: Sorry, I'm on kgs phone app. who are the players? 
Foolish [4k\]: or maybe, ah, I'm so awesome and glad Foolish taught me everything he did
Foolish [4k\]: wasn;t em who said it
Foolish [4k\]: me*
RobertT [-\]: white: Roman Ruzhanskyi 2d vs black: Ali Jabarin 6d
Susira [3d\]: thx 
Syptryn [5d?\]: woa
Syptryn [5d?\]: why got so screwed
Syptryn [5d?\]: in this
Syptryn [5d?\]: white
Foolish [4k\]: sorry if I sound stupid, I just finished a very long exam and trying to blow off some steam
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;B[fp]C[zc3k [1k\]: Go away zunami
Jinni [2k\]: plus youre 4k
whatisgo [2d\]: artem isn't playing there?
Foolish [4k\]: shut up -_-"
bandolero [6d\]: what's happening in japan?
TomoyaKun [2d\]: earthquake
Jinni [2k\]: big earthquake
TomoyaKun [2d\]: big one
Foolish [4k\]: really?
TomoyaKun [2d\]: yes
Jinni [2k\]: 8.8
bobstep [7k\]: L side or protect q8?
RobertT [-\]: japan sank
hmanners [5k\]: 8.9
bandolero [6d\]: omg
Minoru [?\]: f4 great move.
aap [1d\]: indeed
hulken [1d\]: what torniment is this?
TomoyaKun [2d\]: they say they're going to evacuate people in tokyo
Minoru [?\]: in terms of the board.
Koizumi [6k?\]: dont worry i had everyone safely evacuated ^^
Minoru [?\]: trying to attack white now
TomoyaKun [2d\]: :)
Minoru [?\]: is too much but black is safely ahead
aap [1d\]: everybody is going to mt fuji
Jinni [2k\]: tsunami too
Minoru [?\]: on territory at the moment...and white has a weak group
bandolero [6d\]: how did it come to tokyo?
RobertT [-\]: European Youth Championship 2011 (under 20)
bobstep [7k\]: most of the damage quite a bit north of tokyo
hulken [1d\]: what torniment is this?
hulken [1d\]: ok tnx
Foolish [4k\]: Ali is 17 I believe, right?
TomoyaKun [2d\]: there's one thing i don't understand, they're only talking about 10 deaths
xval [1d\]: 19
TomoyaKun [2d\]: after such an earthquake i'd expect much more casualities
Jinni [2k\]: couldve been a lot worse
hypoetical [1d\]: japan knows how to build earthquake safe buildings contrary to poorer countrys
aap [1d\]: stong architecture
Foolish [4k\]: indeed
Foolish [4k\]: well no
RobertT [-\]: japanese are all ninjas and are able to walk on water and dodge falling objects
Foolish [4k\]: the exact opposite
bobstep [7k\]: quake was offshore most of damage from a tsunami
Foolish [4k\]: they make homes of which are not so dangerous if they crash
aap [1d\]: no the funding shakes along the earthquake
Foolish [4k\]: the ceiling is not as hard
Foolish [4k\]: I learned about that in Social Studies :P
Minoru [?\]: d14.
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;W[ce]C[Foolish [4k\]: C15
RobertT [-\]: so close yet so far
Laza [6d\]: c11
Minoru [?\]: with whites weak group on the bottom
RobertT [-\]: d12 
Koffein [-\]: is it possible to bet on the next move or should i get out of my hotel room and watch the game in rl? ^^
Minoru [?\]: a pincer will be favorable globally for black...
hypoetical [1d\]: i would play c11 :>
Foolish [4k\]: well yea, but shouldn't b think about weakening W controll in the upper and right area?
aap [1d\]: hoe doet onze held alexender het
hypoetical [1d\]: but cant almost not call that a pincer
Minoru [?\]: w has no control
aap [1d\]: HOOP van nederland
Foolish [4k\]: Koffein, where is tounrey?
RobertT [-\]: I would play d12 because its the most complex
Koffein [-\]: Brno
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;B[dh]C[Koffein [-\]: hmm, looks like harry has to fight with poor wifi too :/
Foolish [4k\]: Go wastch him, he is the tall dude with the bkack hair and very Israeli eyebrows
RobertT [-\]: horray ali agrees with my thinking
Minoru [?\]: this is very painful
aap [1d\]: gekke harry
Jinni [2k\]: w looks so bad
Minoru [?\]: better to play 2 space approach to prevent pincer.
Foolish [4k\]: true
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;W[ee]
;B[fd]C[Foolish [4k\]: oo
Jinni [2k\]: needs to settle in sente
]
;W[fe]
;B[gd]
;W[jc]C[Minoru [?\]: the problem is
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;B[cd]C[Minoru [?\]: if white creates another weak group inside blacks very large extension
Minoru [?\]: black will make a splitting attack
Minoru [?\]: with o5 stones
Jinni [2k\]: d10
Minoru [?\]: so it seems like
Minoru [?\]: black profits a lot
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;W[be]C[Foolish [4k\]: White is in serious trouble
Foolish [4k\]: I bet Ali is giggling there
Minoru [?\]: well with k17 whites q16 stone is a lot better
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Minoru [?\]: and white can pull back from q8....to q11 or something and build a large double wing....
Minoru [?\]: seemmmmmmmlike black will invade the corner in sente though. then d9 and black looks better.
Minoru [?\]: so w can not play like that, already behind on territory and so must profit from an attack
Foolish [4k\]: wow the earth quake in JP really was huge
Minoru [?\]: but counter pincer seems so dangerous...
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;B[ge]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Both players left...
FreeDoom [1d\]: probably hakumen no mono wake up or just move a little...
Foolish [4k\]: o.O"
Koizumi [6k?\]: lunch break?
Koizumi [6k?\]: or something?
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;W[fh]C[Koizumi [6k?\]: oh
ural2001 [13k\]: hi ALL !!!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, they're back
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;B[dj]C[Minoru [?\]: can anyone closer to the players strength comment on the position? is white is bad as it looks
beoren [1k\]: does anyone else having trouble watching the broadcast?
Minoru [?\]: seems black thinks so if able to play moves like d10
Tupoi [5k\]: who is that man with notebook? 
oddalot [4k\]: Who is playing...i cant see
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: tupoi: czech 4-dan :)
aap [1d\]: how is alex doing
aap [1d\]: dutch pride
wanchan [2k?\]: b is effortless, w is struggling
oddalot [4k\]: Why isnt artem playing?
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;W[dl]C[Minoru [?\]: oh god
aap [1d\]: because artem has a job
wanchan [2k?\]: bad sign for w when b can play very natural moves that are also very effective
Minoru [?\]: my prediction: o5 almost dies but then black becomes all thick and makes nothing out of q16
Q161 [?\]: i sure hope that doesnt happen
]
;B[fj]C[Montchik [3d\]: I don't think that this game will get to yose
crazystyle [6d\]: d8 very bad
wanchan [2k?\]: w gonna die somewhere with 3 floating positions
aap [1d\]: its just a crazy style
Minoru [?\]: w is trying to go out in a blaze.
]
;W[fl]
;B[hj]C[Syptryn [5d?\]: hmmm
Syptryn [5d?\]: not sure what white is planning
Syptryn [5d?\]: g4 !
RobertT [-\]: c3 
]
;W[cp]C[Jinni [2k\]: c4 is epic
crazystyle [6d\]: it is really a crazystyle lol
Minoru [?\]: w goes for sabaki?
aap [1d\]: ahaha
wanchan [2k?\]: i dunno, c4 kind of relies on b having some regrets about handing over the corner...
Nino [1k\]: white plays handicap style "handle all your stones light"
]
;B[co]C[Minoru [?\]: it is a good style but b got an early territorial lead
wanchan [2k?\]: d3? d5?
Minoru [?\]: so can just handle it by playing solidly
Minoru [?\]: d10 f10 h10 epitome of that style.
]
;W[bo]C[betty [1d\]: is there a list of participants anywhere?
wanchan [2k?\]: yes, a few lines up the chat buffer
wanchan [2k?\]: or maybe it was on some other broadcast board
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ...or http://eurogotv.com/
betty [1d\]: i don't want the link to live broadcast...
betty [1d\]: i wanna know who is playing in the tournament
beoren [1k\]: there is a list on http://eurogotv.com
]
;B[bp]C[Minoru [?\]: fuck it is morning now
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: check it pls ;)
Minoru [?\]: whoops language.
]
;W[cq]
;B[bq]
;W[do]
;B[cn]
;W[ep]
;B[eo]C[Foolish [4k\]: What'd I miss?
]
;W[dq]C[betty [1d\]: the website says: 16:00 - 19:00 1st Round ?
]
;B[dn]C[aap [1d\]: proberly 2nd round
Foolish [4k\]: this is the final round isn't it?
aap [1d\]: the first?
zampa [4k\]: i would assume its the 1st round.
zampa [4k\]: but i have no idea.
Foolish [4k\]: it says these are the finals, although is this the final day or the final round?
beoren [1k\]: where does it say its the finals?
aap [1d\]: no its round 1
zampa [4k\]: http://ivan.kostka.sweb.cz/EYGC-2011/PAIR20.TXT
zampa [4k\]: it said round 1
zampa [4k\]: it never said final anywhere
]
;W[fo]C[Foolish [4k\]: lol is Ali really the best player in the tournament?
betty [1d\]: *sighs*
Foolish [4k\]: ko really necessary?
betty [1d\]: ok, who are the best players participating then?
Foolish [4k\]: well he is highest in ranking isn;t he?
Foolish [4k\]: isn't*
betty [1d\]: ohh.. zampa, thanks for the link
zampa [4k\]: viktor linn, pavel lisy, nikola mitic, are 5 dans
Foolish [4k\]: lol I found out today that I am a 2kyu in Judo
]
;B[en]C[Koizumi [6k?\]: you should have a friendly bout with vladimir putin ^^
]
;W[br]C[Foolish [4k\]: EuroGoTV1? what is the time on their clocks?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w 21 min left
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: b 17 min
Jinni [2k\]: f3 first
Foolish [4k\]: thanks
]
;B[eq]
;W[dp]C[kamigodo [4k\]: great for b
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Foolish [4k\]: was that a good move?
betty [1d\]: how many rounds are played today, one or two?
beoren [1k\]: 2
bolbi [-\]: betty : check eurogotv1's info
kamigodo [4k\]: C2 D2 E2 G4 seem fine for B
]
;B[gn]C[zampa [4k\]: kamigodo
Muhlumania [4d\]: but it isn't :)
zampa [4k\]: just play e2 directly?
]
;W[go]
;B[fq]C[zampa [4k\]: no need to waste a stone at c2 first
betty [1d\]: bolbi, eurogotv is not the easiest website to navigate through...
kokp: it may not be easy for chimps
RobinUpton [?\]: C2 d2 B1 choice of ko, so maybe a3 is sound?
Foolish [4k\]: white has too many ko threats
Ukasuhs [2d\]: but the ko is almost much heavier for white
Ukasuhs [2d\]: also*
Foolish [4k\]: white could just A3 right not
Nino [1k\]: white could b6 too
]
;W[hp]C[Foolish [4k\]: its just the beginning of middle game and almost all of their time is completely spent
Ukasuhs [2d\]: what is the byo yomi time?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Ing byoyomi
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 3x 10min (3x penalty 2 points)
zampa [4k\]: wait what now?o.o
Nomadic [7k\]: how is that system working?
]
;B[bn]C[Foolish [4k\]: what do you mean?
SCBilly: ...
Foolish [4k\]: every byo yomi that passes the player loses 2 points?
]
;W[er]
;B[fr]
;W[aq]C[RobinUpton [?\]: b6 doesn't stop the weakness at C2. After C2d2B1, white can choose either a2D1 or c1 A2 a1 two step ko
]
;B[ao]
;W[dr]C[RobinUpton [?\]: NB, I use caps for black move, smalls for white
Foolish [4k\]: suyrprising
RobinUpton [?\]: considerable lag from here, so refer to position about 3-10 stones back :-)
]
;B[cs]C[NorthWind [4k\]: Ooh and Aah
]
;W[bs]
;B[es]C[Foolish [4k\]: OohAah!!
Foolish [4k\]: :P
pak10 [4k\]: resign
Foolish [4k\]: can white actually live through this?
Foolish [4k\]: resign
Minoru [?\]: white is dead
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: foolish: 2 points penalty for each 10 minutes in byoyomi
Foolish [4k\]: yea that's what I was asking
Foolish [4k\]: that could be a real bummer
pak10 [4k\]: E2 was losing move
hanniibal [-\]: but the game is not end
]
;W[cr]C[eerps [8k\]: I think it is
Foolish [4k\]: its a corner
StefanRadu [1d\]: h3 maybe?
Foolish [4k\]: Whit may actually come back
aap [1d\]: f1
Biosanity [13k?\]: a2?
hanniibal [-\]: think tatemiya masaki
Foolish [4k\]: A2 seems better 
]
;B[fs]C[Foolish [4k\]: but its the same
aap [1d\]: dont be so foolish
]
;W[ds]C[Tien [9d?\]: Hmm, white lives in the corner, but this game is pretty over to me, anyway
pak10 [4k\]: why keep on trying
Asrai [6k\]: throw in?
StefanRadu [1d\]: w lives because of the h3 aji
Foolish [4k\]: really?
Foolish [4k\]: you sure?
]
;B[ar]C[Notice [8k\]: no
StefanRadu [1d\]: yep.
aap [1d\]: lol
Tien [9d?\]: Oh, black wants to try anyway
Asrai [6k\]: shortage of liberties? bleh 
Asrai [6k\]: me chobo
ggplay [4k\]: what is aji?
aap [1d\]: a taste
inlite [4k\]: h2?
Foolish [4k\]: can't b gain liberties?
Tien [9d?\]: H2 is answered with g4
Ukasuhs [2d\]: well w can exchange the corner for l4
papadog [?\]: can w kill the L4 group?
Cassis0 [6d\]: h2
Jinni [2k\]: g2
hypoetical [1d\]: g2?
ggplay [4k\]: can someone tell me what's aji?
beoren [1k\]: that will probably what will happen
Tien [9d?\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?Aji
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Foolish [4k\]: h2, corner dead and L4 group dead
ggplay [4k\]: thx
Q161 [?\]: tien, can black save l4 group?
Cassis0 [6d\]: h2 g4 in fact
Wichmaster [5d\]: g2 gives ko
Foolish [4k\]: aji is a dead group that might live or cause trouble for the opponent
Cassis0 [6d\]: g2 seems better
ggplay [4k\]: I see, thanks
Tien [9d?\]: Q161, seems to me like black decided to sacrifice the l4 group with this a2
Tien [9d?\]: I might simply have played at h3 as black
Foolish [4k\]: its bigger
wanchan [2k?\]: actually aji is more like unrealized opportunities in a position
Foolish [4k\]: bigger is always better :P
younme1991 [4k\]: thanks edlee
inlite [4k\]: w live )
Guestguest [1k\]: Is it right link:  http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 ?
Foolish [4k\]: oh
OverNight [7k\]: h2
ggplay [4k\]: I think
Tien [9d?\]: Then again, Ali's choice here might be better in the end
Foolish [4k\]: I always thought it was just a very anoying dead group
ggplay [4k\]: maybe it's better for white to live
Tien [9d?\]: Corner dies, so does l4, but black gets sente
ggplay [4k\]: while black capture G5 stones
Tien [9d?\]: H2 looks like white's only choice
]
;W[gr]C[Foolish [4k\]: surprise!
Tien [9d?\]: Here we go, then
Foolish [4k\]: sorpresa
Foolish [4k\]: H2?
Tien [9d?\]: Right
RobinUpton [?\]: h2 not fast enough to capture. 
FreeDoom [1d\]: w can't capture
Foolish [4k\]: is g2 a mistake?
CepnoB [-\]: h2-h3
Jinni [2k\]: no
Tien [9d?\]: This way, the corner dies and black also saves l4
RobinUpton [?\]: WHat is the g2 ko? I read as B fail
Ukasuhs [2d\]: h2 h3 h1?
Tien [9d?\]: Compare with white h2 instead - then at least l4 dies
Foolish [4k\]: h2 h3 h1
inlite [4k\]: FreeDoom why?
Fall [?\]: isnt G3 better than G2 or not?
RobinUpton [?\]: h2 A4
Foolish [4k\]: you beat me to it :\\
FreeDoom [1d\]: cause now b h2
wanchan [2k?\]: uka, how about j2 then?
Ukasuhs [2d\]: then k2 O.o
Foolish [4k\]: I think b should probably just capture
inlite [4k\]: FreeDoom thx )
hvk [-\]: H1
]
;B[gq]
;W[hq]
;B[hr]C[hakankhan [10k\]: poor black
OverNight [7k\]: :(
Foolish [4k\]: uh?
crazystyle [6d\]: b 1 lib faster
Tien [9d?\]: Hmm, so black chose to play h5 then
hanniibal [-\]: j2 
Foolish [4k\]: lol j2 h5
Foolish [4k\]: I didn't notice
Notice [8k\]: j2 
Foolish [4k\]: no
]
;W[ir]C[Foolish [4k\]: j2 h5
]
;B[gs]C[Foolish [4k\]: what?
beoren [1k\]: must j2 anyway
wanchan [2k?\]: h5 doesnt help after j2... just g4 for w
Q161 [?\]: j2 h5 doesnt work
Madel [1k\]: J1
Q161 [?\]: helps w
beoren [1k\]: of course it helps
NorthWind [4k\]: very good by B
Cassis0 [6d\]: j1 h5
wanchan [2k?\]: it helps b suicide, correct
VIH [4d\]: J1-K2 and B kills the corner
Foolish [4k\]: yea
hvk [-\]: H5 B
hanniibal [-\]: ^^
zampa [4k\]: vih
Cassis0 [6d\]: w must j4
hanniibal [-\]: lol
zampa [4k\]: what about start with k1?
Hiridur [1d\]: g3 seems a little sad..
Gr3e [12k\]: j4 anly way it seems
Gr3e [12k\]: only
]
;W[jq]C[Foolish [4k\]: have they been making mistakes or is it just me?
Jinni [2k\]: its you
Foolish [4k\]: ok then ^^^
Foolish [4k\]: ^^
Q161 [?\]: k3 does not seem as good as j4...
FreeDoom [1d\]: b capture f8 too... so game over?
Asaliuru [4k\]: these are kyu mistakes and dan tesujis at the same time xD
Gr3e [12k\]: :)
jhergueta [1d\]: h5
Foolish [4k\]: it takes 4 moves for black's chasse to work
RobinUpton [?\]: j1 K2 j3 K3 k1H5 Black OK?
beoren [1k\]: why is j4 better than k3?
Foolish [4k\]: it also takes w 4 moves
Foolish [4k\]: so why doesn't b just get it over with?
RobinUpton [?\]: Now H5 looks tempting
zampa [4k\]: why not k1?
zampa [4k\]: instead of k3?
]
;B[fn]C[Foolish [4k\]: why not F6
Foolish [4k\]: ?
Foolish [4k\]: yes!
Foolish [4k\]: he listened
Gr3e [12k\]: oh good :)
FreeDoom [1d\]: strange f6
ggplay [4k\]: why f6?
Foolish [4k\]: wait isn't that a mistake?1
ggplay [4k\]: h5 is better isn't it?
Q161 [?\]: now this is very bad for w
FreeDoom [1d\]: now w h6
Q161 [?\]: should have j4!!
Jinni [2k\]: its always been bad for w
Foolish [4k\]: should have A4!!!
Cassis0 [6d\]: mistake by b? j4
Wichmaster [5d\]: g4
RobinUpton [?\]: k1 H5
Cassis0 [6d\]: just j4 is ok
]
;W[ip]C[Gr3e [12k\]: mon ptit cassis
Foolish [4k\]: A4!!
Gr3e [12k\]: :)
]
;B[ap]C[Foolish [4k\]: yes!
Foolish [4k\]: he did it
FreeDoom [1d\]: so w end sente
beoren [1k\]: why not g4 really
beoren [1k\]: wouldnt it have worked?
Foolish [4k\]: I was the only one who said F6,A4 and I was right
Ukasuhs [2d\]: no
Cassis0 [6d\]: gr3e tu es?
AndyCap [7k\]: hello Harry
Foolish [4k\]: this is the happiest day of my life!
Foolish [4k\]: jkjk :P
Ukasuhs [2d\]: g4 j4
Gr3e [12k\]: personne ^^
Cassis0 [6d\]: ok
]
;W[ci]C[Cassis0 [6d\]: b12
]
;B[ch]C[Foolish [4k\]: muhahaha
ggplay [4k\]: white is still trying?
ggplay [4k\]: I think black is having huge advantage
Foolish [4k\]: he does
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w has first byoyomi period (lost 2 points)
Foolish [4k\]: oh that's a bit**
wanchan [2k?\]: w needs pretty much everything from q8 to k17 as solid area
]
;W[eh]C[RobinUpton [?\]: White consolidated his advantage in ko threats. Maybe convert into points later
NorthWind [4k\]: 2 points in the game count ?
]
;B[di]C[Foolish [4k\]: yea
]
;W[hh]C[miilaas [1k\]: g9
miilaas [1k\]: g9
Zahlman [1d\]: r14
wanchan [2k?\]: n17
superpupil [5k\]: g8?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: black is in byoyomi too (lost 2 points)
wanchan [2k?\]: no need to beat on dead stones
Zahlman [1d\]: ah, Ing rules?
]
;B[je]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
Zahlman [1d\]: oh, this is an interesting move
]
;W[ed]
;B[ec]C[wanchan [2k?\]: k15 the exact opposite direction of what i was thinking about ...
Zahlman [1d\]: why trade e16?
Zahlman [1d\]: wanchan, I think the idea is that k15 aims at that n17 area while keeping pressure on the left side group
superpupil [5k\]: b17 big when endgame
]
;W[ke]
;B[kf]
;W[le]
;B[jd]C[Zahlman [1d\]: w defends top and side suffers
]
;W[kc]C[wanchan [2k?\]: i just think b wants to find another way that doesn't give w so good shape in upper right
wanchan [2k?\]: but i suppose he can spare the cash
wanchan [2k?\]: k13 then
]
;B[gf]C[RobinUpton [?\]: K15 = mixed purpose move, prevent centre and lean on W
Zahlman [1d\]: this threatens to cut
]
;W[dg]C[Zahlman [1d\]: and protects k14 too I guess
]
;B[cg]C[superpupil [5k\]: g12 ??
RobinUpton [?\]: Maybe black aim for simple R17 invasion - If W block q17, make overconcentrated shape, if not, top goes to waste
]
;W[bd]C[RobinUpton [?\]: Now black D14 seems way to punish e16 peep
Zahlman [1d\]: b has many opportunities
wanchan [2k?\]: r17 can be dangerous if w go for kill. r16 maybe?
RobinUpton [?\]: I like G14 has honte feel of avoid troubles
Zahlman [1d\]: really painful for w
]
;B[bc]
;W[dd]
;B[cc]C[Tabemasu [-\]: w going to lose the tail or all of it's going to die
]
;W[cf]C[Zahlman [1d\]: e13?
RobinUpton [?\]: e13 ko?
Tabemasu [-\]: e13 b cuts f12 in sente
Zahlman [1d\]: e13 d14 f14 e14 f13 b13 k11 or something like that I guess
gisel [3d\]: I cannot comprehend whites plan
MildPeril [1d\]: I do not see how C14 helps.. looks cut to me..
]
;B[bg]C[Zahlman [1d\]: wow
Tabemasu [-\]: b no mercy
RobinUpton [?\]: If black needs ko threats, enough for him to play R17 or right side
Zahlman [1d\]: aha, can't make eyes locally eh
VanEeden [5d\]: this is the agressive move
]
;W[ff]
;B[df]C[Zahlman [1d\]: here we go
]
;W[eg]
;B[gg]C[Tabemasu [-\]: uh
VanEeden [5d\]: after J11 RIP
]
;W[gh]
;B[ii]C[RobinUpton [?\]: Strange strategy, Black not need such agression, wethinks
VanEeden [5d\]: he can afford
Gr3e [12k\]: =)
Tabemasu [-\]: w plan is to resign I guess
Zahlman [1d\]: who cares about "need" when you know it works :)
VanEeden [5d\]: w is just dead
Foolish [4k\]: yup
Foolish [4k\]: seems like it
]
;W[ih]C[Foolish [4k\]: thjis game is sure to be over
NorthWind [4k\]: aww, poor W
Gr3e [12k\]: b +R
Gr3e [12k\]: =)
RobinUpton [?\]: OK, few more moves down and it looks fair enough :-)
VanEeden [5d\]: also, b did not lose any points in the attack yet
Zahlman [1d\]: maybe even gained
]
;B[ji]C[VanEeden [5d\]: oh
Ukasuhs [2d\]: l12 looked better than this
Ukasuhs [2d\]: but w is still dead i think
VanEeden [5d\]: K12 you mean
Tabemasu [-\]: multiple ways to kill w here
Ukasuhs [2d\]: no, i mean l12
Tabemasu [-\]: no problem
]
;W[jh]
;B[kh]C[Zahlman [1d\]: this is the solid way
]
;W[jf]C[Zahlman [1d\]: j14 k13 l13 ?
VanEeden [5d\]: i don't think so. K12 is the strongest move
Foolish [4k\]: is he just going crzazt?
VanEeden [5d\]: now, w still has a cut
Foolish [4k\]: or does he believe he has a pplan?
VanEeden [5d\]: desperate, but still
Kryo [8k\]: guess he will threaten 3 weak groups and make the second eye
VanEeden [5d\]: after b K12, w has nothing
]
;B[jg]
;W[if]
;B[ig]
;W[hg]
;B[kg]
;W[hf]
;B[he]C[Zahlman [1d\]: aha
VanEeden [5d\]: X
klammer122 [8k\]: whos playing?
Foolish [4k\]: L11?
Zahlman [1d\]: l11 next of course =)
NorthWind [4k\]: the big bad wof and the sheep
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: :)
VanEeden [5d\]: wof
simdimdim [13k\]: i asume black is the wolf
simdimdim [13k\]: ;D
Foolish [4k\]: Ali Jabarin [6d\] vs Roman Ruzhanskyj [2d\]
NorthWind [4k\]: wolf :P
VanEeden [5d\]: let's say, w has good fighting spirit
Ukasuhs [2d\]: how do you pronounce ruzhanskyj
]
;W[hc]
;B[ie]C[Proffffff [12k?\]: is Roman Ruzhanskyj playing on kgs?
pojki [5d\]: when does the next round start?
ivank [9k\]: Roman is Karnesun on KGS
shouldBdan [2k\]: is it the best time to be removing your own liberties?
aap [1d\]: l11 and can try for g10
simdimdim [13k\]: Ruzanskii (i think)
VanEeden [5d\]: well, eh, like 'ruzhansky'?
Gagovedo [2d\]: next move should be resigning
]
;W[fb]
;B[gb]
;W[gc]
;B[fc]C[VanEeden [5d\]: wtf
]
;W[eb]
;B[ib]C[Foolish [4k\]: ?
aap [1d\]: haha
VanEeden [5d\]: semeai
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w 4 points penalty
VanEeden [5d\]: nice move
Softforce [1k\]: why penalty?
]
;W[ki]
;B[mg]C[VanEeden [5d\]: aha, penalties in byoyomi?
Foolish [4k\]: byo yomi
Iskierka [2d\]: what does it mean?
NorthWind [4k\]: penalty shoot out ? :D
Iskierka [2d\]: penalty points?
Foolish [4k\]: yea, if you reach byo yomi 1 you get a 2 point penalty
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: this is Ing rules
Foolish [4k\]: which means you lose 2 points
Foolish [4k\]: another byo is 4 points
Foolish [4k\]: more then that is just death :P
Iskierka [2d\]: ah:D
Iskierka [2d\]: thx
]
;W[gj]C[NorthWind [4k\]: Canadian byo ?
azoiuch [3k?\]: 60 + 3x10?
]
;B[gk]C[fan [-\]: 10 sec byo? is it still A class tournament?!
Foolish [4k\]: 10 minutee
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 60 min is basic time, and byoyomi is 3 x 10 min (each 10 min = 2 points penalty)
aap [1d\]: byo yomi is 3x10min? lol
shouldBdan [2k\]: 10 min for each move?
fan [-\]: oh! thx
azoiuch [3k?\]: 90 min absolute time
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: after 3 x 10 min is time death
Ukasuhs [2d\]: its 90 minutes absolute time
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes 90 min absolute
Ukasuhs [2d\]: with the last 30 minutes lsing points for you
NorthWind [4k\]: yikes, absolute. 
Ukasuhs [2d\]: losing*
VanEeden [5d\]: f w wants to fight here, there'll be shortage of liberties
aap [1d\]: then its not byo yomi
wither [4k\]: points
Iskierka [2d\]: so it is not like 10 minutes per 15 muves etc?
aap [1d\]: that is canadian
hulken [1d\]: have w resigned jet?
Foolish [4k\]: good question, did he?
]
;W[fk]
;B[gi]C[shouldBdan [2k\]: so in other words, w only has 10 min to finish this game...?
]
;W[ej]
;B[ei]
;W[fi]C[VIH [4d\]: Last chance is to create ko here
simdimdim [13k\]: ko
simdimdim [13k\]: ah sry
simdimdim [13k\]: not rly
]
;B[ek]C[Foolish [4k\]: no ko
VanEeden [5d\]: hopeless. b F13 coming
shouldBdan [2k\]: it would be a lot better chance if w handnt removed that lib
simdimdim [13k\]: or maybe it is
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w has 15 min to finish game
Foolish [4k\]: H11 F13
Ukasuhs [2d\]: h11 g10 j10 k10 j9 f13 
beoren [1k\]: over
]
;W[li]
;B[mh]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w resigns
Foolish [4k\]: awesome
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B+R
Foolish [4k\]: good game
NorthWind [4k\]: Ooh and Aah
Gr3e [12k\]: nice game yes
Proffffff [12k?\]: to much difference...
])