(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[3600]OT[1x30 byo-yomi]
GN[European Youth Championship 2011 under 20 board 1 round 3]PW[Ali Jabarin]PB[Pavol Lisy]WR[6d]BR[5d]DT[2011-03-12]RO[3]PC[Brno, Czech Republic]US[HW9x9]C[mihi [6d\]: why don't you broadcast 1st table of U12?:D 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: other room
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;B[qd]
;W[dp]C[dxxd [-\]: did the young russian talent Sidorenko stop playing or something, does anybody know?
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;B[pp]
;W[dd]
;B[oc]C[mihi [6d\]: He's not allowed to play this year 
dxxd [-\]: i know, but he hasn't been active in tournaments
mihi [6d\]: hmm
]
;W[qj]
;B[cf]C[dxxd [-\]: mean he lost this one game in the last year's championships and never played since... i was wondering if it's possible he really got that upset by it
dxxd [-\]: hehe
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;W[ch]
;B[fc]
;W[df]
;B[cc]
;W[cd]
;B[dc]
;W[ed]
;B[bc]
;W[fq]C[mpepe16 [5d\]: No allowed?
mpepe16 [5d\]: t
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;B[cp]C[atomix [1d\]: you would have had a good shot in this EYGC, mihi
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;W[co]
;B[bo]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of EuroGoTV games at: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Nomadic [7k\]: any site for brackets?
dxxd [-\]: http://www.czech-go.net/eygc2011/pairing.php?lang=en
dxxd [-\]: pairing for the 3rd round
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;W[do]C[Nomadic [7k\]: thx
Excalibor [11k\]: hey harry, what's up?
Excalibor [11k\]: you are always in the trenches ^^
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;B[bq]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
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;W[bn]
;B[dq]
(;W[ao]
;B[bp]
;W[eq])
(;W[eq]
;B[dr]
;W[ao]
;B[bp]
;W[nq]
;B[qm]C[Honeycake [3k\]: harry ftw
power [5k\]: w has no cash
mpepe16 [5d\]: Who need cash?
power [5k\]: w needs
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: he wants land
Honeycake [3k\]: results online?
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;W[no]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
dxxd [-\]: http://www.czech-go.net/eygc2011/results.php?lang=en
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;B[fo]C[dxxd [-\]: pairing and results can be found behind the same link if you use the navigation on the left...-_-
Excalibor [11k\]: will we be able to see U12 games by any chance?
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;W[hp]C[mate105 [1d\]: c7?
mate105 [1d\]: ok
mate105 [1d\]: i am wrong
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;B[pq]C[shihu [9k\]: is f5 too close to influence?
eve20 [1k\]: 4 conners
Excalibor [11k\]: f5 is vital point of that shape, i think it looks light and nice
Sundome [6k\]: It would be hard for W, interesting fight mind occur in center 
Excalibor [11k\]: bow p15 or r13?
Excalibor [11k\]: i mean now?
Sundome [6k\]: I don't think so, if W play p15 then B would gain both side 
Excalibor [11k\]: r13 then?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of EuroGoTV games at: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Sundome [6k\]: R14 i think would be better , 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: TV2 also online now
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;W[cm]C[Sundome [6k\]: but even, situation there would be bad for W
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;B[lq]
;W[or]
;B[mp]
;W[np]C[Excalibor [11k\]: shouldn't w play b15 as nice gote when we can afford it?
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;B[ln]C[Sundome [6k\]: like you said it gote, 
Sundome [6k\]: then B would gain more playing somewhere else, 
Excalibor [11k\]: as Tien said once, there are good gote moves :)
Sundome [6k\]: in yose, or chuban, B15 i too small now
Excalibor [11k\]: aha
Sundome [6k\]: if W play B15 and then B R13, who will gain more ? xD
Excalibor [11k\]: of course
Excalibor [11k\]: i meant later
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;W[nm]C[Sundome [6k\]: I'm curious , when B would attack left side, 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: this is a game contest who can look the most bored
Sundome [6k\]: what you mean by that ? xD
Pottu [1k\]: why b would attack left side?
Elmarias [-\]: you watching the video? they both look bored out of their minds
Sundome [6k\]: nope, only on kgs  ^ ^ 
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;B[ho]C[eve20 [1k\]: any french here
Sundome [6k\]: I think for the same reason B played M3, it look for me, I wanna your surender, I would destroy all your terrain
Sundome [6k\]: * I will . . .
Elmarias [-\]: the game next to this board looks itneresting. liiks like some heavy groups formed
Sundome [6k\]: it's more lively than here
josselin [12k\]: j4 maybie ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: video picture and sound ok?
rkda [6k\]: looks good from california
Elmarias [-\]: looks and sounds good to me.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: great thx, and channel 2?
ManPower [7k\]: is also fine
Excalibor [11k\]: both look great
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: super
Excalibor [11k\]: sound's nice but dunno if one or both ^^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: this morning Windows decided i need an update even i "told"  it that it is not allowed in weekends
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;W[ip]
;B[io]C[Excalibor [11k\]: windows kinda sucks a bit ^^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yep
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;W[jp]C[Excalibor [11k\]: how are the U12 group boyz'n'grls doing?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but i still dont want an other operating system
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: they are playing fast
Excalibor [11k\]: hehe
Excalibor [11k\]: youth ^^
teonanactl [9k\]: k6 ?
]
;B[ll]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of EuroGoTV games at: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Excalibor [11k\]: nice, my club pal is 5th in U12 ^^ he's really amazing :-/
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;W[nk]
;B[jo]
;W[kp]
;B[mo]
;W[mn]
;B[lo]
;W[qr]
;B[pr]
;W[ps]
;B[rq]
;W[qq]
;B[qp]
;W[rr]
;B[rk]
;W[rj]
;B[qk]
;W[pj]
;B[on]
;W[rp]
;B[ro]
;W[sq]C[CBlue [?\]: artem isnt playing?
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;B[so]C[NorthWind [4k\]: correct
oddalot [4k\]: Why play tZ
oddalot [4k\]: T3
CptHook [5k\]: why we are waiting so long for t4?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: he doesnt want to play it
CptHook [5k\]: hmm
daniiil [3k\]: q6?
RobertT [-\]: tenuki
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: dangerous
mate105 [1d\]: he can tenuki but it means letting black connect?
RobertT [-\]: ya
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;W[om]
;B[pn]C[mate105 [1d\]: w o6?
RobertT [-\]: if both black groups cant get attacked then connecting is dame anyways
CptHook [5k\]: b lives so what w really want?
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;W[sp]C[mate105 [1d\]: yeah
mate105 [1d\]: hmm tough choice for black 
mate105 [1d\]: where to play
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;B[qg]C[pojki [5d\]: wow
Backflash [10k\]: k16 why not here?
Backflash [10k\]: or around
pojki [5d\]: why not f8?
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;W[lj]C[Backflash [10k\]: he thinks he can pull it
Ilidan [4k\]: r13 W must creat live
Backflash [10k\]: i think he ca:)
Backflash [10k\]: n*
RobertT [-\]: I liked r14 instead of t4
NorthWind [4k\]: W pressures the m6 group
CptHook [5k\]: w doesnt need life he is connected to r2
pojki [5d\]: black is surely thinking about the o6 cut
redfeel: n9 to fagile
CptHook [5k\]: almoust
RobertT [-\]: actualy now that I think about it w could have tenukied and b still couldnt connect
redfeel: o6 bad
Backflash [10k\]: o6 cut suicide
Ilidan [4k\]: o6 nop 
pojki [5d\]: r13 is trying to threaten with o6
RobertT [-\]: because after w not t4 it goes o6 n7 then n2 and t4 become miai for 2nd eye
Backflash [10k\]: just guard the j5 in sente and k16 :) big deal huh
RobertT [-\]: so  ya, t4 wasnt needed
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;B[jk]C[CptHook [5k\]: he lost sente
redfeel: t4 great move
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;W[fl]
;B[cg]C[redfeel: c13 
mate105 [1d\]: n2 hurts w lower group
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;W[dg]
;B[bh]
;W[be]C[LeT63 [-\]: b clearly ahead?
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;B[ci]C[mate105 [1d\]: maybe he didnt want that
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;W[dh]C[redfeel: black still no alive
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: black 6 groups
RobertT [-\]: n2 doesnt really hurt whites lower more then m3 already does
pojki [5d\]: white has a lot of points on the upper side
CptHook [5k\]: no problem for b i think he can k11 treathening o6
Backflash [10k\]: not yet
pojki [5d\]: as black will have to take care of his groups white w will build there
mate105 [1d\]: potential you mean :D
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;B[bf]C[pojki [5d\]: h17 is w sente, k11 is w sente, n17 threatens the b corner when it is surrounded by w
pojki [5d\]: so w has points on the upper side :)
dan2dan [2d\]: n17? o_O
dan2dan [2d\]: really ?
mate105 [1d\]: i see
dan2dan [2d\]: sequence plz?
]
;W[af]C[CptHook [5k\]: b o12 looks better to me?
redfeel: a14 a good point
]
;B[bj]C[redfeel: b10 a good point
Sanharibv [3k\]: go white!
pojki [5d\]: also w can make points with e2 L2.. as long as w gets sente here in some reasonable was w is okay
Pottu [1k\]: b looks dead
CptHook [5k\]: yeah
daniiil [3k\]: a12 :)
taugenix [2d\]: y not a13 first for b?
redfeel: A11 kill
CptHook [5k\]: b has to run out i think e10?
taugenix [2d\]: yes ofc
taugenix [2d\]: thats her plan
grco [-\]: hard to kill imo
mate105 [1d\]: her?
taugenix [2d\]: oh is lisy male?
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;W[dj]C[pojki [5d\]: sure he is :)
mate105 [1d\]: i am seeing two men
Kird [21k\]: he looks like ;p
pojki [5d\]: pavol = paul
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;B[di]C[taugenix [2d\]: oh funny i though  its like Lisa...
mate105 [1d\]: definitely
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;W[ei]C[taugenix [2d\]: didnt know^^
pojki [5d\]: :D :D
inRadio [11k?\]: a12 is b 2nd eye.. should be\\
taugenix [2d\]: not much space here
pojki [5d\]: b lives, all w needs is to get sente
cherisse [-\]: ohhh new opp ^^ but 5d again, good
kentia [1k\]: b lives but w becomes thick
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;B[ag]
;W[ae]C[cherisse [-\]: is there a tv link?
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;B[cj]C[pojki [5d\]: then w plays k11, making the black group live in gote again while making more wall
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;W[ai]
;B[dk]
;W[ej]
;B[bl]C[taugenix [2d\]: b mis?
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;W[cl]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of EuroGoTV games at: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
dan2dan [2d\]: DEAD.
mate105 [1d\]: i am suck at L and D
mate105 [1d\]: T.T
cherisse [-\]: thank you tv ^^
Backflash [10k\]: oh, black lost it =\\
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
dan2dan [2d\]: it's deeeaadl
dan2dan [2d\]: lol
redfeel: p12
taugenix [2d\]: c10 at a11 lived?
cherisse [-\]: no! so early :(
redfeel: built top and win
redfeel: go black
Kachnak [2d\]: black might be dead
Pottu [1k\]: a11 seems to work
dan2dan [2d\]: as to that, yes, taugenix
Kachnak [2d\]: but i think there are still aji to make some exchange
pojki [5d\]: c9 a9 d7 gives some chance?
CptHook [5k\]: c9
Kird [21k\]: how many time left ?
cherisse [-\]: is b also kgs player?
Kachnak [2d\]: for example cutting at e4
Kachnak [2d\]: a go for the bottom group
ChemBoy613 [-\]: seems resign is in order?  maybe I am not reading this right though
Pottu [1k\]: a7 aji left
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;B[ck]C[cherisse [-\]: resign? no way D:
Sanharibv [3k\]: A9?
mate105 [1d\]: maybe b/c he is listening to a music :P
Pottu [1k\]: a9 a7
Sanharibv [3k\]: a8...
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;W[ak]C[dan2dan [2d\]: why b choose to complicate things when im sure he knew A11 would've lived
dan2dan [2d\]: zzz
eric1010 [-\]: xD
redfeel: f10 cut
cherisse [-\]: looks like b took a risky path but w is a better reader
dan2dan [2d\]: he clearly didnt read all this out.. he's taking so much time
Canopi [6d\]: a10 
Pottu [1k\]: a7 a8 b7
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;B[dm]C[Pottu [1k\]: seki
Sanharibv [3k\]: a10 a8 no?
Tien [9d?\]: This seems like the best try
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;W[dl]C[pojki [5d\]: now b lives
Canopi [6d\]: a10 a8 b7 a7 b9 a6 d7 ^^ but d7 first is okay also
Sanharibv [3k\]: ah..
Sanharibv [3k\]: i see
Tien [9d?\]: Pretty much the same, right
mate105 [1d\]: a11 for black looks dead to me?
CptHook [5k\]: a7?
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;B[aj]C[Sanharibv [3k\]: nice
Sanharibv [3k\]: but still bad result overall?
Pottu [1k\]: w got sente
taugenix [2d\]: mate c10 at a11 lived imo
Tien [9d?\]: Fine for black if k5 survives without much damage
cherisse [-\]: hmm? A8 doesn't work?
Tien [9d?\]: That, however, is a big if
Sanharibv [3k\]: a8 e9 i think
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;W[ek]
;B[al]C[dan2dan [2d\]: now was all this better than A11 to begin with?...
dan2dan [2d\]: ...
Sanharibv [3k\]: now where to place the next stone for a great frame :|
pojki [5d\]: d8 was a mistake
redfeel: around p12
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: k11
ZirkusPipp [-\]: d8 
pojki [5d\]: should be at e7 probably
cherisse [-\]: the game goes on ladies and gentlemen :D
Pottu [1k\]: w have now momentum
cherisse [-\]: hmm my eurogotv is brownout
jhhjhj: w has no territory ...
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;W[il]C[ChemBoy613 [-\]: W has to find best way to attack middle
taugenix [2d\]: now w must make pressure on  m8u  group
]
;B[kj]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of EuroGoTV games at: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
mate105 [1d\]: wrong direction for w?
CptHook [5k\]: e7 b connect to f5 i guess pojki?
cherisse [-\]: last game ali has all 3 corners but this time is the other way around
CptHook [5k\]: or lives
mate105 [1d\]: he is pushing black to the top T.T
]
;W[ki]C[mate105 [1d\]: or not :P
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;B[jl]
;W[im]C[taugenix [2d\]: this attack will erase b territory on the top
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;B[lk]
;W[jj]C[CptHook [5k\]: cut
LeT63 [-\]: terr where?
NorthWind [4k\]: I would be worried as W. this game looks hard to win
]
;B[nn]
;W[mm]
;B[mj]C[grco [-\]: cheater...
pojki [5d\]: w does not like things to be easy
pojki [5d\]: but w can cut the j5 stones now
cherisse [-\]: is ali listening to ipod again :o
bolamata [3k\]: whats these kids kgs rank if anyone know
bolamata [3k\]: 6-7d?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
Tien [9d?\]: Black is 7d
bolamata [3k\]: ah ok thanks
Tien [9d?\]: Well-known player here
Canopi [6d\]: same for white no ?
cherisse [-\]: who?
Tien [9d?\]: cheater
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;W[pg]C[pojki [5d\]: wow
Tien [9d?\]: White cannot be serious with this
CptHook [5k\]: m11?
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;B[oi]C[phantomas [3k\]: why not tien ?
ScorPuS [2d?\]: m11 n9 mis
cherisse [-\]: both kgs player~
Tien [9d?\]: How are they both ignoring that huge ponnuki?
Tien [9d?\]: Defies common sense
ScorPuS [2d?\]: m11 n9 mis
bolamata [3k\]: because w worries about his right group maybe
phantomas [3k\]: yes the ponnuki solves blacks problems
ScorPuS [2d?\]: they make m11 and n9 moves!!!!
Canopi [6d\]: black doesnt have problems
phantomas [3k\]: i thought the center group could be attacked ...
pojki [5d\]: b can throw away the r13 stone too easily
ScorPuS [2d?\]: they maked m11 and n9 moves!!!!
cherisse [-\]: no young girls strong enuf to participate?
Bside [4k\]: r12
Baneling [-\]: gotv is breathing heavily now
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry
n0thing [3d\]: moves are missing here eurogo
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;W[li]
;B[mk]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: realy?
n0thing [3d\]: now it's ok
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thx
LeT63 [-\]: nothing
CptHook [5k\]: if b doesnt kill is a-huge mistake 
]
;W[oj]C[Tien [9d?\]: The thing is, black didn't need to kill
Tien [9d?\]: This is taking a huge risk for no reason, kind of
Tien [9d?\]: Could've taken the ponnuki in sente, and then connected the k5 stones out
tamasuke [1k\]: who look better?
]
;B[ni]C[Prodigious [5d\]: i don't know how you could even play p11 with the possibility of that ponnuki around...
Bside [4k\]: black
CptHook [5k\]: why not if he would played m11 terr h13 wasnt big
Tien [9d?\]: Prodi, yeah
pojki [5d\]: w has still L5...
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;W[ph]
;B[qh]
;W[pi]
;B[ng]
;W[qf]
;B[rf]
;W[re]
;B[qe]
;W[pf]
;B[rg]
;W[nf]
;B[mf]
;W[ne]
;B[me]C[Totti10 [2k\]: who's in trouble here
Fredda [-\]: it defies common sense to think pavol has it:)
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;W[nd]
;B[mg]C[LeT63 [-\]: on the edge
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;W[nc]
;B[lc]
;W[rn]
;B[qo]
;W[rm]
;B[rl]
;W[oo]
;B[sm]
;W[qc]C[Mech91 [7k\]: t9?
pojki [5d\]: q8
beoren [1k\]: no need
Sanharibv [3k\]: t9 q8 
Sanharibv [3k\]: oh you meant t9 for b?
]
;B[rc]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i think Wq7 instead of Wp5 would have been much better
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;W[pc]
;B[pd]
;W[rb]
;B[se]
;W[sc]
;B[rd]
;W[ob]
;B[ij]C[Bside [4k\]: nice 
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;W[ji]
;B[ii]
;W[ih]C[Mech91 [7k\]: l13
pojki [5d\]: looks like w till wins on points
beoren [1k\]: but seems difficult now..
CptHook [5k\]: incredible how they can make a life in loosing position...
Bside [4k\]: yes but black is a little more solid
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;B[hh]
;W[ik]
;B[ig]
;W[jh]
;B[gi]
;W[hg]
;B[gg]
;W[hf]C[mpepe16 [5d\]: Which Lukas won in the 3. table?
Tien [9d?\]: Few liberties for black like this
MSFHV [-\]: omg
MSFHV [-\]: m7 big
CptHook [5k\]: i will quit go if l11 lives
Tien [9d?\]: You shouldn't say that
Tien [9d?\]: Might end up really quitting
kentia [1k\]: :)
pojki [5d\]: M7 small - b responds with k6.. L5 big :)
]
;B[gf]
;W[he]C[CptHook [5k\]: uff
Baneling [-\]: is w in control?
LeT63 [-\]: b wants K.O.
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;B[ge]
;W[jf]
;B[hd]
;W[id]C[CptHook [5k\]: l13?
beoren [1k\]: w should f12 first?
AlexCoty [11k\]: Would E12 cut be useful now that black has that wall?
pojki [5d\]: b thinking about j15 now :)
LeT63 [-\]: has ali ever had rating for a 6d?
CptHook [5k\]: j15 kills i gues?
Bside [4k\]: no
dxxd [-\]: he lacks ~40 gor, but it's fine
]
;B[hc]
;W[fh]
;B[gh]C[MSFHV [-\]: d17 can dead
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;W[kg]
;B[kd]C[pojki [5d\]: actuallay if w plays F16 g16 e17... :)
]
;W[lh]C[psblue [4k\]: b has to play J17, e17 and k7 in the same time :)
beoren [1k\]: yeah not bad for w
CptHook [5k\]: i will not quit go bec. b didnt play properly to kill
beoren [1k\]: lol
beoren [1k\]: be a man of your word
]
;B[gk]C[MSFHV [-\]: whit
beoren [1k\]: log out right now
CptHook [5k\]: do it for me pls
]
;W[hj]
;B[hi]C[tsunami: E17
Sanharibv [3k\]: who's ahead?
Mech91 [7k\]: g10
hvk [-\]: L5
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;W[gl]
;B[jm]C[Sanharibv [3k\]: l5 is good
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;W[ec]
;B[eb]
;W[fd]C[esko [1k\]: ohnoes, l5 gone
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;B[gd]
;W[fb]C[Sanharibv [3k\]: yeah :/
Sanharibv [3k\]: ops
esko [1k\]: i waited all the time w getting it
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;B[gb]
;W[fa]C[Sanharibv [3k\]: f19
Sanharibv [3k\]: damn.
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;B[da]
;W[gc]C[CptHook [5k\]: b still has j15 and j17?
Mech91 [7k\]: why not e19
Pische [3k\]: lol
hvk [-\]: B2
beoren [1k\]: for who?
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;B[qs]
;W[rs]
;B[fc]C[Mech91 [7k\]: for B
MSFHV [-\]: q8
]
;W[ko]C[Mech91 [7k\]: at place of d19
Sanharibv [3k\]: i doesn't matter mech
]
;B[kn]
;W[gc]
;B[sr]
;W[ss]
;B[fc]C[Sanharibv [3k\]: G4
armadada [1k\]: b2
MSFHV [-\]: q8 or c15
carbon [3k\]: q8
]
;W[sh]
;B[ep]C[LeT63 [-\]: omg
Tien [9d?\]: Good plan, here
Tien [9d?\]: Black's only way to possibly win
Kachnak [2d\]: explain pls
Bside [4k\]: very nice
]
;W[fp]C[Tien [9d?\]: Look at the e10 dragon and its eyes
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;B[eo]
;W[go]
;B[gn]
;W[gp]C[Tien [9d?\]: Black can simply play h6 here
PseudoKyu [6k\]: E6
Sanharibv [3k\]: no
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;B[hn]C[pojki [5d\]: small
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;W[fn]
;B[en]C[Tien [9d?\]: What
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(;W[fm])
(;W[em]
;B[fm]C[carbon [3k\]: wutt
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;W[dn]
;B[fn]C[pinish [2d\]: nice sequence pavol
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry
pinish [2d\]: go pavol 
pinish [2d\]: :)
flgoban [2d\]: my heart...
Tien [9d?\]: No prob :)
CptHook [5k\]: np
pojki [5d\]: agree, go pavol :)
Mindtwist [1k\]: ali miss click^^
Bside [4k\]: ali in truble now
Tien [9d?\]: White is likely fine, still
Sanharibv [3k\]: G17?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: back to the ko?
Tien [9d?\]: J4 must live
MSFHV [-\]: b2 then
pojki [5d\]: b woud have too many threats against the lower group
MSFHV [-\]: no ?
Sanharibv [3k\]: C15 
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;W[sg]C[Mech91 [7k\]: big decision
CptHook [5k\]: k2?
kentia [1k\]: huh
Mech91 [7k\]: g1
]
;B[jr]C[Sanharibv [3k\]: hngg
LeT63 [-\]: nice call captain
CptHook [5k\]: tx
beoren [1k\]: this is ok with w?!
Sanharibv [3k\]: j2 k3 h2?
kontkor: why trade like this? w seems worse off
Kachnak [2d\]: now the top hand ko hopless for b
fatih [2d\]: finally they have some points on the board
Mech91 [7k\]: dead??
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: l2
Cassis0 [6d\]: I dont think w thinks he is dead
Sanharibv [3k\]: l2 and b just nobi?
Sanharibv [3k\]: looks dangerous
kontkor: if this lives then brillant. see no way though
Mech91 [7k\]: black go to wc
pinish [2d\]: its not a problem of whast w thinks :)
]
;W[br]
;B[ar]C[pinish [2d\]: its a problem of can he get e2 in sente or not
eve20 [1k\]: i dont think 6d thinks w thinks he is dead is correct
psblue [4k\]: is the idea to make E2 sente ?
]
;W[ir]
;B[jq]C[Sanharibv [3k\]: h2?
Sanharibv [3k\]: or h1
]
;W[er]C[lemuria [4d?\]: j2 is weird...
CptHook [5k\]: L2 didnt worked?
eric1010 [-\]: O_O
Mech91 [7k\]: h2
lemuria [4d?\]: l2 did work
CptHook [5k\]: work**
Bside [4k\]: G2
]
;B[iq]C[Mech91 [7k\]: c2 now
]
;W[cr]
;B[cq]C[Sanharibv [3k\]: ah..
Mech91 [7k\]: d1
Pinguschaf [?\]: b1
tunasalad [1k\]: lol
Sanharibv [3k\]: no
Mech91 [7k\]: dead
Mech91 [7k\]: W win
Sanharibv [3k\]: ..
]
;W[gc]C[n0thing [3d\]: alive
Mot [2k?\]: no
n0thing [3d\]: : )
Mot [2k?\]: yes alive
taugenix [2d\]: POOR W
Sanharibv [3k\]: d1 b1 
myhz2 [2k\]: a3 ?
Pische [3k\]: a3
Sanharibv [3k\]: mech, d1 diesn't work
grco [-\]: white is dead there
n0thing [3d\]: a3 a4
carbon [3k\]: a3 a4
myhz2 [2k\]: d1
pinish [2d\]: w dead
navid [6k\]: b1
]
;B[qb]C[Sanharibv [3k\]: b1 a4
]
;W[pb]
;B[fc]C[Sanharibv [3k\]: and it's sente
]
;W[ce]
;B[bg]
;W[gc]C[Mech91 [7k\]: ignorer?
MSFHV [-\]: w win
Sanharibv [3k\]: how
atgo [?\]: yes
pinish [2d\]: in which universe ?? 
CptHook [5k\]: j15
poirette [-\]: t18?
pinish [2d\]: go pavol :)
MSFHV [-\]: go ali!!!
Mech91 [7k\]: a4 and after d1?
eric1010 [-\]: go pavol xD
Maeglin [7k\]: s11? thread?
Sanharibv [3k\]: no
grco [-\]: go pali...
Sanharibv [3k\]: after d1 w b1
n0thing [3d\]: b19 ?
Sanharibv [3k\]: = 2 eyes
blurb: how much time they have now?
Sanharibv [3k\]: eh?
blurb: oops
]
;B[ba]
;W[hb]
;B[fc]
;W[hq]
;B[gr]
;W[gc]C[Sanharibv [3k\]: many threats for w
Tien [9d?\]: Black should have gotten t9 in before h18
Mech91 [7k\]: c19 dead?
]
;B[ie]
;W[if]
;B[fc]C[Mech91 [7k\]: no
]
;W[bi]
;B[ah]
;W[gc]C[Tien [9d?\]: H9 might function well enough for black
Tien [9d?\]: But still, feels like white's game
Maeglin [7k\]: s19?
]
;B[ic]C[CptHook [5k\]: b is ok from my view
]
;W[hr]
;B[is]
;W[mq]
;B[lp]
;W[lr]
;B[kq]
;W[ga]C[Sanharibv [3k\]: w lost imo
Kachnak [2d\]: lost?
Kachnak [2d\]: w+8
bolamata [3k\]: i thought b is winning
]
;B[hk]
;W[sk]
;B[pl]
;W[hl]C[CptHook [5k\]: k16 over?
]
;B[mb]C[bolamata [3k\]: oh nvm
]
;W[ib]
;B[jb]C[Pinguschaf [?\]: that was strange yose
]
;W[nb]
;B[sb]
;W[qa]C[n0thing [3d\]: pretty close imo
beoren [1k\]: its closer than 8
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, i got disconnected
]
;B[og]
;W[of]
;B[ef]C[Mech91 [7k\]: f14
]
;W[fk]
;B[gj]C[CptHook [5k\]: se says w will wins...
]
;W[kb]C[pojki [5d\]: se cannot count chinese rules
n0thing [3d\]: l18 big
]
;B[ja]C[n0thing [3d\]: w making a better yose it seems
Shadowman [2d\]: does it work?
n0thing [3d\]: oh
n0thing [3d\]: mb not actually : )
bolamata [3k\]: I thought europe follow japanese rule
Tien [9d?\]: Hmm, guess counting could be in order
Pottu [1k\]: no it is overplay
gooooo [-\]: tien, counted? :)
Tien [9d?\]: I'm getting a ridiculously even result
Tien [9d?\]: I call white wins 2,5
hvk [-\]: .
psblue [4k\]: i ckeck :)
]
;W[lm]C[beoren [1k\]: m18 works no?
]
;B[ee]
;W[de]C[Mech91 [7k\]: a18 dead?
]
;B[bm]C[CptHook [5k\]: i call w +0.5
domi999 [1d\]: tien what would you say about W style ?quite uncomun no?
Mech91 [7k\]: nonononno
]
;W[an]
;B[bs]
;W[je]
;B[jd]
;W[le]C[Tien [9d?\]: domi999, seems good to me :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: order not correct
Tien [9d?\]: I don't know about uncommon
beoren [1k\]: yeah
]
;B[lb]
;W[ld]C[domi999 [1d\]: i mean special :)
Tien [9d?\]: Giving black the chance to get that m11 ponnuki certainly is not common though
domi999 [1d\]: i dunno
]
;B[ia]
;W[ha]C[Tien [9d?\]: Nice and influence-oriented
inRadio [11k?\]: w+6.5
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i am lost
]
;B[hs]C[domi999 [1d\]: i find it good, but my judgment is poor
]
(;W[ks]C[domi999 [1d\]: yes
fatih [2d\]: black + 2,5 imo
inRadio [11k?\]: 143.5 vs 136
]
;B[md]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hmm
bolamata [3k\]: lol
bolamata [3k\]: lets just wait the final result :)
]
(;W[mc])
(;W[ap]
;B[mc]C[ural2001 [13k\]: Black wins?
]
;W[aq]
;B[cs]C[Pottu [1k\]: looks like w +8.5
]
;W[ea]C[kentia [1k\]: l1 is m1 no?
]
;B[db]
;W[ac]
(;B[ab]
;W[ad]C[disturbed1 [6k\]: l1 is on m1 in stream
Mech91 [7k\]: B +3.5
])
(;B[ad]C[Liso66 [6k?\]: include penalty
]
;W[bd]
;B[ab]
;W[ad]C[fatih [2d\]: ant penalty for players? 
]
;B[na]
;W[oa]
;B[ma]C[Nickless [-\]: t19 ?
inRadio [11k?\]: hmm...
Nickless [-\]: a
inRadio [11k?\]: b 166 w 164 hard to count
Nickless [-\]: hehe nvm
Liso66 [6k?\]: right
Liso66 [6k?\]: thanx
inRadio [11k?\]: include pinalty? or onboard only?
cherisse [-\]: supa close
]
(;W[oq]C[CptHook [5k\]: after all w led a game..
Mech91 [7k\]: W 
Mech91 [7k\]: 0.5
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B+T
bolamata [3k\]: ....
aap [1d\]: loll
Draugar [5k\]: Uhm, isnt K1 kinda important?
kentia [1k\]: o-ou..
bolamata [3k\]: what a dissapointing end
odolany [4k\]: how is w a18 not working after b a16?
pojki [5d\]: oh, cool
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: L1 is on K1
pojki [5d\]: nice black :)
pinish [2d\]: good work pavol
inRadio [11k?\]: game over?
Mech91 [7k\]: W +1.5
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B+T
fatih [2d\]: ing time set is not the best 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: they are counting what would have been the score
inRadio [11k?\]: b 163  w 162.5
inRadio [11k?\]: hmm...
chilavek [3d?\]: the rules are so stupiad
HiVariance [15k\]: EuroGo, do you know who won between Lukas and Lukas?
qgo [3k\]: thanks Euro
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Black would have won because of time penaltys anyway
inRadio [11k?\]: ing rule .. headache
MSFHV [-\]: who win ?
grco [-\]: cheater must win u20!!!
MSFHV [-\]: black or white
grco [-\]: black
Kachnak [2d\]: so how did they count the result?
CptHook [5k\]: chess has better rules
kentia [1k\]: time penalty?
cherisse [-\]: ha time D:
fatih [2d\]: 2 points for each 10 mins byoyomi period 
atomix [1d\]: why are ing rules used?
Kachnak [2d\]: how was the final board pls?
kentia [1k\]: odd rule
Kachnak [2d\]: the result
atomix [1d\]: i mean in the european champs
cherisse [-\]: anyone estimate the score if not time?
Asaliuru [4k\]: when is next round ?
grco [-\]: still black won about 0,5 point?
n0thing [3d\]: that was a very cool game
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if no time white would have won
cherisse [-\]: really? poor ali
Kachnak [2d\]: by how much?
inRadio [11k?\]: rule skill  ^^ ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but time is in the rules
Mech91 [7k\]: 1.5
Bside [4k\]: :\\
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B+T
taugenix [2d\]: cant they buy extra time
Bside [4k\]: good game!
HiVariance [15k\]: EuroGo, who won, Lukas Kraemer or Lukas Podpera?
cherisse [-\]: i don't understand this time system
Mech91 [7k\]: go to rules
bikle [5k\]: At what time does the next round start ? 
cherisse [-\]: and who will play? :D
Liso66 [6k?\]: b+T 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: we counted and b would win by 0.5
Liso66 [6k?\]: but if just game finish it could be half point for black
])
(;W[ke]))))
(;W[ls]
;B[md]
;W[ke]
;B[mc]C[Liso66 [6k?\]: without penalty board was for white
]
;W[ac]
;B[ab]
;W[ea]
;B[db]
;W[ad]
;B[oq]
;W[nr]
;B[lf]
;W[ap]
;B[na]
;W[oa]
;B[ma]
;W[aq]
;B[cs]
;W[kk]
;B[kl]
;W[pk]
;B[pm]
;W[ol]
;B[ml]
;W[lg]C[Tien [9d?\]: What, time win?
]
;B[eg]
;W[eh]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yep
Tien [9d?\]: Now that's something
Tien [9d?\]: Congrats to Pavol!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Thanks, Tien :)
Liso66 [6k?\]: thanx tien :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: from now w had 5 sec, i dont really remember it all
]
;B[kf]
;W[in]
;B[jn]
;W[oh]
;B[mi]
;W[fg]
;B[ie]
;W[jg]
;B[id]
;W[kj]C[cherisse [-\]: next game in 2 hrs
CptHook [5k\]: thx i havent watched better game for a long time..
]))))