(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[3600]OT[1x30 byo-yomi]
GN[European Youth Championship 2011 under 20 board 1 round 4]PW[Pavol Lisy]PB[Roman Ruzhanskyi]WR[5d]BR[2d]DT[2011-03-12]RO[4]PC[Brno, Czech Republic]US[HW9x9]
;B[pd]
;W[dp]
;B[pq]
;W[dd]
(;B[cf]
;W[fc])
(;B[fq]
;W[cn]
;B[ip]
;W[po]
;B[pl]
;W[oq]
;B[or]
;W[op]
;B[nr]
;W[qq]
;B[qr]
;W[pp]
;B[pr]
;W[rq]
;B[mp]
;W[qm]
;B[ql]
;W[rl]
;B[rk]
;W[rm]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game at: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
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;B[jd]
;W[qj]C[psblue [4k\]: R10 was the natural move for black, no?
]
;B[rj]
;W[qf]
;B[qh]
;W[qc]C[cherisse [-\]: i hope at least black make it to yose!
]
;B[pc]
;W[qd]
;B[pe]
;W[pf]C[psblue [4k\]: r15
psblue [4k\]: then cut at R16 ?
]
;B[qe]
;W[re]C[psblue [4k\]: s
grco [-\]: pavol knows...he try to trick?
]
;B[rd]
;W[rc]
;B[rf]
;W[sd]C[akeboshi [-\]: P14
akeboshi [-\]: '.'
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;B[of]
;W[rg]
;B[pg]
;W[sf]C[psblue [4k\]: looks great for black
Dupaaxe [?\]: influence not points
grco [-\]: optical?
Dupaaxe [?\]: B can play sarensei
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game at: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
]
;B[fc]
;W[df]
;B[db]C[psblue [4k\]: would have been C14 better for white ?
psblue [4k\]: we need a strong dan here to help us :)
]
;W[qi]
;B[ri]
;W[oe]C[mihi [6d\]: D14 is ok 
psblue [4k\]: tx
fOuW [2k\]: d14 counters b influence more than c14
psblue [4k\]: but then C12 works better for black to enter w moyo if necessary
fOuW [2k\]: i cant see w moyo ^^
grco [-\]: cheater is bored
psblue [4k\]: to approach the kest side :)
psblue [4k\]: left side
cherisse [-\]: can b nobii
arczi: how many dans do players have?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 83
psblue [4k\]: is written in brackets, 5 vs 2
]
;B[ne]C[arczi: oh, blind, 
]
;W[og]
;B[nf]
;W[ph]C[Dupaaxe [?\]: q11
Dupaaxe [?\]: :)
]
;B[nl]
;W[cc]C[Tien [9d?\]: Does Pavol have all wins?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
Tien [9d?\]: Nice
]
;B[dr]
;W[hc]C[Tien [9d?\]: And if he's against 2 dans now, I would guess that's mean he's the favorite for the win now
A1R [2k\]: http://www.czech-go.net/eygc2011/results.php?lang=en
Tien [9d?\]: Thanks
Warlord [-\]: he's the only one with 3 points atm so looks like so :)
A1R [2k\]: u20 section
]
;B[fe]
;W[he]C[A1R [2k\]: he is forst
A1R [2k\]: first*
Tien [9d?\]: Aha, Sandy left to play against, still
chakeah [7d\]: this is the last round??
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 4 of 6
Tien [9d?\]: Likely two left still
]
;B[hf]C[KingSarko [5k\]: wow
chakeah [7d\]: i see..
KingSarko [5k\]: risky
klammer122 [8k\]: one more round today? or both tomorrow?
]
;W[gf]
;B[ge]
;W[ie]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: tomorrow
chakeah [7d\]: i think b is not strong
Tien [9d?\]: You shouldn't say that
chakeah [7d\]: i saw his game vs ali
]
;B[eg]
;W[gg]C[ivank [9k\]: b is Karnesun, 6d KGS
chakeah [7d\]: very funny but i would say he always overplay
Tien [9d?\]: Aha
Tien [9d?\]: He's improving, still
Tien [9d?\]: That's the important part to me
Syptryn [5d?\]: Karnesan is only 2d EGF?
Tien [9d?\]: Some internet player :)
chakeah [7d\]: yeah i think he thinks fast but not good at slow game
Tien [9d?\]: This is KGS 7d vs. KGS 6d, then
]
;B[hg]
;W[hh]
;B[jf]C[chakeah [7d\]: what is pavol acc?
]
;W[je]C[Tien [9d?\]: cheater, as far as I know
]
;B[jg]C[A1R [2k\]: yea
]
;W[ke]C[chakeah [7d\]: oh i thought cheater is not under 20 hehe
grco [-\]: 1
grco [-\]: 7
mihi [6d\]: black is 1 day older than me:P 
chakeah [7d\]: i see thx:)
]
;B[gh]
;W[fh]
;B[gi]
;W[fg]
;B[ef]
;W[fi]
;B[dg]C[fabz [12k\]: have you ever played in this tournament (when you were under 20) Tien ?
Tien [9d?\]: It was under 18 when I still participated :)
Tien [9d?\]: I played years 2004-2006
]
;W[cf]
;B[cb]C[fabz [12k\]: ok
Tien [9d?\]: Ilya participated in the same years, too :)
]
;W[bb]C[A1R [2k\]: how is lukas doing?
fabz [12k\]: it sucks that we dont have french players in that tournament, some european countries are not there...
Pinguschaf [?\]: I still remember the game, where u beat him Antti^^
]
;B[bd]C[Tien [9d?\]: Ah, hehe :)
Pinguschaf [?\]: played some taisha, right?
Tien [9d?\]: That was some luck there
Tien [9d?\]: Right
Pinguschaf [?\]: with a huge fight
Tien [9d?\]: The obvious trick variation :)
]
;W[bc]
;B[cg]
;W[bg]C[Tien [9d?\]: I'd never play that one anymore
Pinguschaf [?\]: and ilya missread a ladder against some 3d
Tien [9d?\]: Oh yeah, on the first round I think
Tien [9d?\]: Or was it second?
Pinguschaf [?\]: dunno
Tien [9d?\]: Wasn't a very good tournament for him
A1R [2k\]: jun, arent you in kyoto?
Rawrie [6k?\]: Bad days happen everyone
Pinguschaf [?\]: i just remember this made him throw back to 6th place or something
Tien [9d?\]: Rawrie, right
Pinguschaf [?\]: so i didnt even get paired up with him
Rawrie [6k?\]: And ladders are tricky, trickier than you think =>
]
;B[bh]
;W[bf]
;B[fj]
;W[gj]
;B[hi]
;W[ej]
;B[fk]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game at: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
]
;W[di]C[Mikee: bleh login
]
;B[ci]
;W[ck]
;B[bk]
;W[bl]C[ivank [9k\]: b is European U18 vice champion 2010 
Dupaaxe [?\]: free one :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: under 16
ivank [9k\]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Youth_Go_Championship#Under_18
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: last year was no under 18 group
ivank [9k\]: http://domgo.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=391
ivank [9k\]: his own words
]
;B[bj]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i dont care; i was there and reported it
]
;W[ek]C[icanhazgo: this is maybe a little passive for b?
ivank [9k\]: ok)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
]
;B[gb]C[fabz [12k\]: we go that french player thomas debarre who is i think the same dan as Tien and who would probably do very good in the tournament...
]
;W[ih]
;B[jh]
;W[ii]
;B[hj]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: stream ok?
]
;W[lg]C[fabz [12k\]: what about artem kachanovsky same thing...
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Artem soon Europes strongest player
]
;B[hk]C[fabz [12k\]: he is under 20 isnt he ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
]
;W[ng]C[fabz [12k\]: i dont know if he is on KGS, probably...
Syptryn [5d?\]: that's just painful
grco [-\]: nice white
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game at: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
sutex [?\]: recently, ve seen white in ireland, last week, played ondrej silt and won, that was and amazing gae
sutex [?\]: *game
]
;B[mc]
;W[ji]
;B[ki]
;W[ik]C[grco [-\]: indeed...
]
;B[jk]C[fabz [12k\]: k10 ?
Backflash [10k\]: k10 l10 j8 
playgo [5k\]: h8 ?
Backflash [10k\]: it is cut anyway
Backflash [10k\]: black has a lot of freedoms
fabz [12k\]: k10 l10 K8 or H8 and then F8
]
;W[ij]
;B[il]
;W[hl]
;B[gk]
;W[jl]C[Backflash [10k\]: 2 vs 3
]
;B[im]
;W[kk]C[Backflash [10k\]: t.t
]
;B[ig]
;W[jj]
;B[kj]
;W[jk]C[Backflash [10k\]: m12 =\\
playgo [5k\]: dunno who is in more trouble here
Backflash [10k\]: black
Warlord [-\]: black is screwed like a lightbulb
dffd: hhh 
]
;B[lk]
;W[jm]C[Syptryn [5d?\]: weee
Syptryn [5d?\]: that was like than u move
Syptryn [5d?\]: thank u
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i prefer black
Syptryn [5d?\]: well h9 k13 ,, 1 of the 2 likely to be dead
Backflash [10k\]: black going to die
Typhon [2k\]: why is 7th place playing 1st?
Backflash [10k\]: lottery
minoru19 [2d\]: .
Typhon [2k\]: still thats 6 places diffrence
Typhon [2k\]: and aobut 4 points diffrence as well
Warlord [-\]: nah just 2, there's a top group
sutex [?\]: time?
zizu [-\]: white wins this fight imo
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
Backflash [10k\]: won*
psblue [4k\]: b e12    w e11    b m 12 ?
]
;B[in]
;W[kh]
;B[km]
;W[jn]
;B[jo]
;W[kn]
;B[ln]C[playgo [5k\]: 1 more liberty and its over
]
;W[ko]
;B[kp]
;W[lo]C[Littlego38 [?\]: white dead
power [5k\]: hmm
Syptryn [5d?\]: black dead
Backflash [10k\]: m7 ?
Syptryn [5d?\]: white wins by 1 libery
]
;B[mo]C[betty [1d\]: *nods*
Littlego38 [?\]: n5
betty [1d\]: white ok
Syptryn [5d?\]: n5 m10 m11 m8 n9 m7 n6 l8 
Littlego38 [?\]: l6
Littlego38 [?\]: m6*
zizu [-\]: white still has M10
]
;W[lm]C[Littlego38 [?\]: n6
Littlego38 [?\]: or m8
Littlego38 [?\]: m8 seen good
Warlord [-\]: ya m10 is the whole point :)
Syptryn [5d?\]: m8 fails
hulken [1d\]: m8, l8. n6?
Littlego38 [?\]: yes
Syptryn [5d?\]: nice try by black though
yoon [6k\]: why not b n6 
Warlord [-\]: m8 n6
Littlego38 [?\]: n6 l14 m4 l7 and shicho?
Littlego38 [?\]: after m8
Warlord [-\]: n6 then white m8
yoon [6k\]: then m4 
]
;B[mn]
;W[ll]C[Warlord [-\]: there you go
debutgow [4k\]: m4
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: black 2 points time penalty
Syptryn [5d?\]: hmmm
Backflash [10k\]: damn those ing rules!
minoru19 [2d\]: why?
Syptryn [5d?\]: without m10 
debutgow [4k\]: gain 1 liberty m4
Syptryn [5d?\]: ot ,au ne a ko
eric1010 [-\]: go go Pavol ^^
Syptryn [5d?\]: it could be ko
Syptryn [5d?\]: well maybe not, but black gets to cut n13 , w00t :D
]
;B[fm]C[Backflash [10k\]: mmm
]
;W[cq]
;B[dl]
;W[cl]C[power [5k\]: poor b
]
;B[dk]C[debutgow [4k\]: maybe e11
]
;W[el]C[Backflash [10k\]: he can cut it...kind'a
]
;B[dm]
;W[em]
;B[dn]
;W[en]C[zizu [-\]: white can live separately
Backflash [10k\]: res?
Warlord [-\]: guess so
playgo [5k\]: just shows how good c3 was
]
;B[do]
;W[eo]C[Dupaaxe [?\]: w look bored
zizu [-\]: black night never give up
]
;B[co]C[zizu [-\]: knight
]
;W[dj]C[Dupaaxe [?\]: nait :)
dednepsus [11k\]: конь
alex666 [9k\]: b7 
Backflash [10k\]: e2e4
]
;B[bo]
;W[cj]C[alex666 [9k\]: b3 
]
;B[dq]
;W[ho]C[Sanharibv [3k\]: did pavol defeat ali jabarin?
Dupaaxe [?\]: ooo
Warlord [-\]: yeah
Backflash [10k\]: +t
Warlord [-\]: what's the deal with time penalty, btw?
Backflash [10k\]: so why h5 he can't cut g9 anyway
Backflash [10k\]: ing rules as i remember google it
dednepsus [11k\]: why they use ing, not japan rules?
psblue [4k\]: if black takes the corner, white j5, black h7 and white k4 ?
zizu [-\]: G9 dead too
psblue [4k\]: ir white 57 and b dies :p
psblue [4k\]: g7
zizu [-\]: or invasion
]
;B[gm]
;W[io]
;B[gn]
;W[jp]C[gobugobu [6d\]: j5 was possible for B
]
;B[jq]C[jkjkj: when?
]
;W[nm]
;B[on]C[gobugobu [6d\]: if W g7 g8 h7 g6 h6 g5 h4 h3 - killing W's stones
psblue [4k\]: instead of g7
gobugobu [6d\]: instead of g7 
]
;W[mm]
;B[pn]
;W[qn]
;B[pi]
;W[qg]
;B[qk]
;W[pj]
;B[oo]
;W[ep]
;B[cp]
;W[ok]
;B[ol]C[jkjkj: i'm confused why black didn't see that, not a very complicated reading...
psblue [4k\]: maybe the time and the pressure
]
;W[mk]
;B[ro]
;W[rp]C[gobugobu [6d\]: B is a 2d
jkjkj: what does that mean though?
]
;B[rr]
;W[qo]C[jkjkj: like if he's actually 3 stones weaker then white, how on earth did he make it to the finals or w/e this is
gobugobu [6d\]: That means that his reading will be limited
zizu [-\]: hes 6d kgs
]
;B[sq]
;W[so]C[jkjkj: lol
jkjkj: def doesn't take a kgs 6d to read out j5
]
;B[nk]
;W[nj]
;B[oi]
;W[oj]C[Mukti [4d\]: W has a sure win anyhow.
betty [1d\]: is it just me or is black not doing that badly? i don't have a clue how to count according to this system...
betty [1d\]: by how many points is that sure win?
]
;B[rh]C[playgo [5k\]: white is leading , dunno by how much
]
;W[lc]C[Mukti [4d\]: About 15+komi
zizu [-\]: about 10?
Mukti [4d\]: so big lead
Simoff [1d?\]: white hasn't many points - yet
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game at: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Mukti [4d\]: I count about B45+1 and W46+6+komi
]
;B[lb]C[Mukti [4d\]: so w about 15 ahead
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B 6 points penalty
Mukti [4d\]: Oh
]
;W[mb]C[zizu [-\]: Ic
Mukti [4d\]: Then even more clear win by white
jkjkj: wtf 6 pt penalty?
Simoff [1d?\]: and some areas still unsettled
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B now 10 mites sudden death
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: minutes
guta [3d\]: do you know result on board 3 Mitic vs Lukas
]
;B[nb]C[playgo [5k\]: how many volts on his chair ?
]
;W[md]
;B[nc]
;W[kb]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Lukas won
A1R [2k\]: nice
]
;B[ld]C[guta [3d\]: ok thx
]
;W[kc]C[A1R [2k\]: Lukas in good shape this we
]
;B[lf]
;W[kf]
;B[dc]
;W[cd]
;B[ba]
;W[ed]
;B[gc]
;W[ee]
;B[ff]
;W[hp]
;B[jo]
;W[fl]
;B[gl]
;W[jp]
;B[sn]
;W[rn]
;B[jo]
;W[ec]
;B[eb]
;W[jp]
;B[iq]
;W[hq]
;B[hr]
;W[gr]
;B[ir]
;W[bq]
;B[br]C[Simoff [1d?\]: white forcing b into resigning
zizu [-\]: o_O
]
;W[cr]
;B[cs]
;W[eq]
;B[er]
;W[fr]
;B[aq]
;W[es]
;B[bp]
;W[mf]
;B[me]
;W[le]
;B[nd]
;W[la]
;B[kd]
;W[jc]
;B[id]C[debutgow [4k\]: q18?
]
;W[hd]C[gobugobu [6d\]: k17 at h18 
zizu [-\]: m4?
]
;B[qb]
;W[rb]C[debutgow [4k\]: q18 kill black
debutgow [4k\]: ^^
]
;B[oa]
;W[qa]
;B[pb]
;W[ic]
;B[md]
;W[nq]
;B[mq]
;W[bn]
;B[cm]
;W[bm]
;B[dh]
;W[ei]C[klammer122 [8k\]: why doesnt b ty to win the ko
klammer122 [8k\]: k4
klammer122 [8k\]: and kill white
]
;B[go]C[letsplay: no point
letsplay: the white can't be captured
]
;W[gp]
;B[fo]
;W[fp]
;B[ja]C[playgo [5k\]: even if b wins the ko, white is connected
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i am only 60 moves behind now
letsplay: haha
playgo [5k\]: thats ok, the game is pretty much over anyway
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Pavol plays even faster then Roman who is in Sudden death
letsplay: coz pavol is in advantage
DOCTOR [6k\]: n10!
liq3 [4k\]: 60 moves behind? O.o
zizu [-\]: can u zoom at least?
Warlord [-\]: coz pavol is Da Man :)
playgo [5k\]: there seems to be something wrong with black's chair :-)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: zoomed board at : http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
zizu [-\]: ah, ok thanks
eric1010 [-\]: good pavol and good roman
eric1010 [-\]: é_è
playgo [5k\]: thanks for the relay Euro
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i am sorry to be too old to keep up with these guys
playgo [5k\]: no, you did a great job
Dupaaxe [?\]: :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: counting starts
letsplay: is this the end?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Black had 14 seconds left
letsplay: it's not ending yet is it?
letsplay: omg
letsplay: black must be really in a great pressure
Cyclone001 [?\]: black?  isn't it w's turn?
letsplay: cyclon001: the live match one
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+20.5
letsplay: wow
letsplay: quite a gap
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: included the 6 points time penalty
letsplay: thanks eurogotv1
Warlord [-\]: thx for the relay
umonkey: time penatly?
umonkey: whats that
letsplay: penalty for exceeding the time allowed
zizu [-\]: thanks to eurogotv1...
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: cu all tomorrow; now on EuroGoTV2  live TV
umonkey: lol i thought that's called a time loss
letsplay: haha
letsplay: cu
zizu [-\]: Palko rulzzz
DOCTOR [6k\]: n10
]
;W[hb]C[letsplay: yep
letsplay: that's the point
klammer122 [8k\]: okay =)
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