(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[4500]OT[1x30 byo-yomi]
GN[European Go Congress 2009 board1 round1]PW[Zhang Yanqi]PB[Nemlij Igor]WR[6d]BR[5d]DT[2009-07-26]EV[European Go Congress 2009 board1 round1]RO[1]PC[Groningen, the Netherlands]US[HW9x9]
;B[pd]
;W[cp]
;B[oq]C[ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: prefer black
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;W[dc]C[MssrBlanc [3k\]: no, white's position is superior
MssrBlanc [3k\]: black has the stupid stone
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: hahaha it's hard to say that, but i just prefer black
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of thie game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: e4?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: or will black back off and r4
bistrogo [3d\]: isn't Zhang 6d?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
bistrogo [3d\]: sorry
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
Sheeple [3k\]: so, there's no pairings/results website i suppose?
bistrogo [3d\]: just woke up
bistrogo [3d\]: i took the 6 for a 5
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: like e4/e3
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, i changed it because of your remark^^
bistrogo [3d\]: ^^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: www.egc2009.nl
bistrogo [3d\]: ok thx
Zahlman [1k\]: e4 seems normal here
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;B[qp]C[Violence [-\]: You Eurogos might want to update your profiles
Orc [4d\]: is there realy tv we can watch?
bistrogo [3d\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
swarn: yes
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thx
bistrogo [3d\]: you're welcome ;)
serenade19 [4k?\]: are they dan pro?
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;W[qf]C[OneLuck [2d\]: why are they showing a match between 6d and a 5d? I want to see pros play
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: oh this fuseki
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: r11
Orc [4d\]: is it free?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
Orc [4d\]: nice
holynec [?\]: orc, you can pay me
holynec [?\]: ;)
Violence [-\]: O17 trendiness?
holynec [?\]: if you wish
Orc [4d\]: who is the girl on the tv?
holynec [?\]: guessing Zhang Yanqi
mishik [6k\]: cute cup :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: is sound ok?
holynec [?\]: why is black taking so long
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;B[qj]C[Sheeple [3k\]: sound+pic fine
mishik [6k\]: Sound looks okay to mee to
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thx
BenjaminGl [12k\]: i just realized what this move does 
holynec [?\]: black looks tired, please smack him
BenjaminGl [12k\]: pretty cool
holynec [?\]: nice, not showing the dude anymore
Sheeple [3k\]: hehe
holynec [?\]: parfait
mulder [9d?\]: harry is a little shaky
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: just... o16..
holynec [?\]: drank coffee i bet
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;W[nd]C[BenjaminGl [12k\]: tiny room
gokas: y i cant see the video?
minismurf [-\]: guessing w is pretty strong :)
Orc [4d\]: is there only 1 game on the tv broadcasting?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: q14
Sheeple [3k\]: no flash plugin?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of thie game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: e4?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: my wife was on eurogo tv, but she only let you see her back
BenjaminGl [12k\]: so this is the go congress?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
mishik [6k\]: pic - lol :))
AutoAtari [3k\]: oh I played this joseki in a game yesterday
AutoAtari [3k\]: (as black)
Sheeple [3k\]: that's dinnerstein right?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
AutoAtari [3k\]: wait, no, it was R11
BenjaminGl [12k\]: the guy kinda reminds me of an older version on the red headed kid in hikaru no go :P
AutoAtari [3k\]: n/m
mishik [6k\]: fort. :)
spider451 [-\]: kaga
holynec [?\]: she went off to seek advice
holynec [?\]: make the camera follow!
mishik [6k\]: Ochi? :)
Orc [4d\]: how come the top board isnt pro?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: i'm guessing that he doesn't know this joseki
holynec [?\]: first match of tourney
Zahlman [1k\]: surely there is more than one joseki to choose from here?
holynec [?\]: i think matchings are more or less random ? :k
Sheeple [3k\]: i feel the sudden urge to drink zhuyeqing tea
Orc [4d\]: she went out to read her joseki book
mulder [9d?\]: zhuyeqing tea must be delicious
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: i know, right?
Zahlman [1k\]: don't let us stop you, sheeple
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: this joseki isn't in the book, yet
holynec [?\]: better yet, went to find a pro
holynec [?\]: :p
Goemon [?\]: which joseki ?
Orc [4d\]: its in all books chemboy
spider451 [-\]: lol
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: nah, this is kinda new
Sheeple [3k\]: what do you do? q14?
Orc [4d\]: well it might not be in joseki books in 50s
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: the modern wayh was r10 at r11 tho
bistrogo [3d\]: only one webcam this year?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: tomorrow 2 or 3
bistrogo [3d\]: greta!
BenjaminGl [12k\]: that was an odd shirt
nay4ok [1d?\]: um.. I just got to the broadcast. wou these kids are young
holynec [?\]: who is that chubby white guy
bistrogo [3d\]: or great as you wish ;)
mishik [6k\]: p15 for b is joseki?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: itck tock tick tock
mishik [6k\]: (one of the variations)
BenjaminGl [12k\]: what is the go congress?
Orc [4d\]: he isnt too chubby
nay4ok [1d?\]: q14 is the only move here
holynec [?\]: the guy just snuck in a photo, girl saw :p
spider451 [-\]: found it
mulder [9d?\]: it's nice to see all theses spectator's 
spider451 [-\]: q 14 is  one
nay4ok [1d?\]: well not the only really but the only joseki move that is
holynec [?\]: odd, my joseki tutor has this joseki
holynec [?\]: must be pretty old ^^
mulder [9d?\]: floowers are missing on the little table behind
spider451 [-\]: p 15 too
oddalot [7k\]: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Orc [4d\]: the kid never see this joseki
tsuchigumo [-\]: Several moves possible, including o15 and r15, q14, p15
holynec [?\]: time to consult joseki dictionary
Zahlman [1k\]: I don't even understand why people are talking about "this joseki"
spider451 [-\]: yep
minismurf [-\]: I think black will go for R15
spider451 [-\]: tsuchigumo is correct
Zahlman [1k\]: as if it were singular...
spider451 [-\]: just checkd
oddalot [7k\]: aint it a tad bit distracting with all those people walking by?
Sheeple [3k\]: maybe b tenukis :P
Violence [-\]: Chem, why do you think that these players don't know modern variations?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: because they don't love joseki as much as chem
nay4ok [1d?\]: maybe black pass ;P
BenjaminGl [12k\]: wow i envy these people....besides the fact they actually get to play gmes of go in person
holynec [?\]: im voting for an o15
spider451 [-\]: this isnt modern
Violence [-\]: But most strong players look at recent pro games, it's that easy to just pick up modern vars.
Dogen [5k\]: because modern variations aren't as important as a small minority think
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: maybe...
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: i'm just being silly
oddalot [7k\]: 2,000 dollars to sit in some room alright
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: are you coming to congress?
Orc [4d\]: Q14 seems to be reasonable
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: i hope so...
nay4ok [1d?\]: what joseki dictionary are you guys useing?
Badduck [5d\]: hm r15 maybe possible too
spider451 [-\]: im using  chinese one
Sheeple [3k\]: brugo.be
Goemon [?\]: r15 r17
LugPaj [2d\]: i use Chemjoseki 2009 ;).
Violence [-\]: My brain.
spider451 [-\]: complete
mishik [6k\]: 38 basic josekis :)
spider451 [-\]: lol
silver2k4 [5d\]: oh, W is a she
holynec [?\]: kogo's "advanced" joseki dictoinary
derp [1k\]: http://kgs.fuseki.info/
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: 38 basic joseki far out dated
mishik [6k\]: yap
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: white wins because go playing chinese girls are all powerful
Dogen [5k\]: it's not "outdated", it just presents basic joseki
gokas: still cant see the video...
Dogen [5k\]: the basics haven't changed
oddalot [7k\]: darn, i just bought 38 basic joseki two days ago!!
Sheeple [3k\]: w wins by time on move 20
mishik [6k\]: But I'm weak, so this book is still helpful
holynec [?\]: i still use half the josekis in 38 basic joseki :p
Sheeple [3k\]: oddalot, the principles are still good.
Dogen [5k\]: I just reread it; it's fine
BenjaminGl [12k\]: he played
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: ooooo o15
Goemon [?\]: where can i find the website and players' info
Dogen [5k\]: the people who say it is outdated are elitist
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;B[ne]C[silver2k4 [5d\]: where do yanqi comes from?
tsuchigumo [-\]: 6 volume joseki daijiten here, I am currerntly on page 2794
Goemon [?\]: oh fight hmm i liked this brave move
holynec [?\]: oo o15, guessed it
mishik [6k\]: Yeee! I won ;)
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: agressive
holynec [?\]: we got a referee in the house
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: i want.... r17
holynec [?\]: the video feed is quite amusing
deller [3k\]: r16
Dogen [5k\]: what's the time for these games?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: If you want information about the players, check http://gobase.org/
Goemon [?\]: first p16 w then w r17 imho
holynec [?\]: 2:30 hrs i think
holynec [?\]: 2.5
BenjaminGl [12k\]: how long does each player get?
BenjaminGl [12k\]: lol nvm
tsuchigumo [-\]: Or Ishida vol. 3 p. 184 for old timers
madcow [1d\]: hey, anyone knows what happened yesterday at the british Go championship?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: ishida also outdated
madcow [1d\]: who won?
holynec [?\]: 60 second byo yomi
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;W[me]C[spider451 [-\]: mathew won
madcow [1d\]: ok!
Sheeple [3k\]: so no surprise there
Orc [4d\]: I have a feeling I might played against the 5d kid a few years ago, he was 4d that time
tsuchigumo [-\]: The kaftan prevailed
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: p15
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i forgot to adjust the timesettings
holynec [?\]: gobase has information on these players?...
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: white has to win
madcow [1d\]: p15 is good
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: chinese girls all powerful
tsuchigumo [-\]: Ishida still a marvelous book for understanding joseki principles and shapes
madcow [1d\]: yucks
madcow [1d\]: ishida's a 3rd line crawler
madcow [1d\]: i recommend takamiya's attack and defence
royalty [4d\]: i recommend reading everything you can
lrichard [23k\]: and for beginners ? ;-)
madcow [1d\]: an encyclopedia of common shapres and where to attack
madcow [1d\]: yes
LugPaj [2d\]: i recommend playing
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;B[oe]C[madcow [1d\]: read it and u become 3d
lrichard [23k\]: :-)
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;W[qc]C[oddalot [7k\]: don't believe everything that you read
royalty [4d\]: how did i see this coming
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: yes this is normal
Dogen [5k\]: then how come you're only 1d?
madcow [1d\]: lol
tsuchigumo [-\]: I think you mean Ishida Akira's Attack and Defense?
LugPaj [2d\]: madcow cannt read
madcow [1d\]: congential defects limited my rank
tsuchigumo [-\]: A very good book for kyu players imo
lrichard [23k\]: I have it also
holynec [?\]: how about for dans? lol
holynec [?\]: havent read it :o
Violence [-\]: Cho Hunhyun's "Becoming an Emperor in the Middlegame"
holynec [?\]: what?! what a title
silver2k4 [5d\]: n16 standard continuation? is there any other option?
madcow [1d\]: i love cho HH
holynec [?\]: r16
derp [1k\]: continuations are r16 or n16
silver2k4 [5d\]: r16 gives bad shape
madcow [1d\]: his talent is only surpassed by lee sedol
holynec [?\]: r16 is natural :o?
Violence [-\]: I don't think Sedol surpassed his talent
madcow [1d\]: r16 only move
Zahlman [1k\]: r16 consistent
tsuchigumo [-\]: r16 normal
xpolyplus [4k\]: r16 q17 o17 o17 
holynec [?\]: who is our scribber today? :\]
Orc [4d\]: Lee sedol and Gu li are most talented players now
madcow [1d\]: b thinking of n16 prolly
BenjaminGl [12k\]: what about s 16?
madcow [1d\]: guli is not consistent
Violence [-\]: He still holds youngest to pro, most wins, and stayed in the top tier of pros for a ridiculous amount of time.
madcow [1d\]: he is losing his games now
holynec [?\]: isnt sedol on a break, due to mental exhaustion or something
Zahlman [1k\]: s16 nonsense... don't give opponent a gap to push through
Dogen [5k\]: it's due to a dispute with the Korean go association
Sheeple [3k\]: boring politics.
silver2k4 [5d\]: i better dont ask questions here, noone gives any reason
holynec [?\]: is he still on break?
Violence [-\]: http://loveku.livejournal.com
Violence [-\]: go read about it there.
Orc [4d\]: Gu li was not consistant but from last year never lose in final
sfrex [2k\]: what does zhuyeqing tea means?
MssrBlanc [3k\]: hard to compare the young and the old
Violence [-\]: We'll see if anyone from our era can top giants
derp [1k\]: if n16, r16 m16 usually follow
Violence [-\]: It can happen, I just don't think it's happened yet
Orc [4d\]: I remember I played a game with this kid a few years ago, he spent  30 mins thinking of his first move
Dogen [5k\]: yea, we don't yet have a Go Seigen of this period
madcow [1d\]: i used ot spend 30 minutes at the start long time ago
deller [3k\]: what's the time limits for this game?
tsuchigumo [-\]: i quite like the standard result of this joseki for b in this fuseki
Orc [4d\]: that was 1.5 hour each person
Dogen [5k\]: so if R16, then W Q17? Then what follow-up for B?
holynec [?\]: how is chen yaoye doing these days?
Sheeple [3k\]: the referee is stealing tables!
Sheeple [3k\]: i wonder what the main hall looks like
zoldorn [1d\]: r16 q17 p16 p17 n14 n16 o13 
oddalot [7k\]: he's actually staring at that girl, he's not thinking
sfrex [2k\]: zhuyeqing tea是什么茶？
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;B[qd]
;W[pc]
;B[rc]C[Orc [4d\]: chinese green tea I guess
madcow [1d\]: isn't Zhuyeqing a snake?
sfrex [2k\]: kgs tea champion cup?
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;W[od]C[Novalys [2k\]: gogogo yanqi
madcow [1d\]: n16 now!
tsuchigumo [-\]: b gets sente to reinforce at p10
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;B[pf]
;W[rb]C[holynec [?\]: hey violence, which month and day is the entry in?
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;B[rd]C[Orc [4d\]: the girl is using his time to think
mishik [6k\]: a fly? :)
Sheeple [3k\]: probably
madcow [1d\]: who's the girl?
oddalot [7k\]: lol that guy was checking out that other girl
Orc [4d\]: white is 
madcow [1d\]: wow
madcow [1d\]: 6d girl
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;W[md]C[holynec [?\]: found it, nvm
madcow [1d\]: O.O
zoldorn [1d\]: is n16 wasn't really great for b
noned [2d\]: thick move
silver2k4 [5d\]: hm, quite even result
oddalot [7k\]: b has sente though
madcow [1d\]: can still d15 now?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of thie game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Sheeple [3k\]: i liked the p10 idea
tsuchigumo [-\]: p10 is honte
Dogen [5k\]: i was just about to ask that...
zoldorn [1d\]: why not n14 ?
Novalys [2k\]: yanqi rocks
derp [1k\]: p10 too slow, probably
madcow [1d\]: d15 d15 d15 !
tsuchigumo [-\]: works well with shimari
Novalys [2k\]: \\\\o o//
DickCheney [1k\]: Q13 is good breakout move for white?
madcow [1d\]: i think B is better
Novalys [2k\]: i like white
madcow [1d\]: W slightly too concentrated on the right
Orc [4d\]: white seems to get the outside influence
Dogen [5k\]: where is white player (in the video)?
Novalys [2k\]: because black is one sided
Novalys [2k\]: And n15 damages moyo
LugPaj [2d\]:  b is already counting ko threats
madcow [1d\]: if W had m16 it's better
nay4ok [1d?\]: p10 is honte? I doubt that
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;B[ep]C[Dogen [5k\]: ah, back from bathroom
xpolyplus [4k\]: d15 
xpolyplus [4k\]: XD
madcow [1d\]: h4 only move
madcow [1d\]: h4 h4 h4 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Saijo just came in the room
Sheeple [3k\]: who's nodding guy? i bet he's pro :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 9d pro
xpolyplus [4k\]: kok
xpolyplus [4k\]: ah
madcow [1d\]: nodder
Dogen [5k\]: it must be tough playing with all those peolpe walking by
xpolyplus [4k\]: can you say to the cameramen d
xpolyplus [4k\]: to riprend hm?
Goemon [?\]: link?
Dogen [5k\]: "riprend"?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of thie game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
xpolyplus [4k\]: video
xpolyplus [4k\]: i'm watching
derp [1k\]: must be a spider
zoldorn [1d\]: h4 and g3, what's better?
Sheeple [3k\]: live fly on the camera
Zahlman [1k\]: reprimand*
nay4ok [1d?\]: I think there's a fly
Sheeple [3k\]: ok spider
derp [1k\]: it crawls away
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;W[gq]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it is a ant
tsuchigumo [-\]: Well.. w has q13 later, which is powerful, but probably only after he erases lower right 
tsuchigumo [-\]: she*
spider451 [-\]: me?
spider451 [-\]: ^^
wesley [7k?\]: rubish i don't have the right drivers on my linux to watch the game
iplaydirty [3k\]: good move
Sheeple [3k\]: drivers? you only need flash.
Orc [4d\]: N15 makes white very strong
gokas [?\]: big wall little distance it looks good for w
LugPaj [2d\]: wesley...your linux sucks then.
oddalot [7k\]: adobe.com my friend
wesley [7k?\]: i'm installing them now...it's just a hassel
nay4ok [1d?\]: mm.. why there are so many people walking around? it's so annoying
Sheeple [3k\]: k3 possible?
Dogen [5k\]: the ad for the tea company goes to a chinese-only site; are they not trying to market to the west by sponsoring the EGC?
Novalys [2k\]: when ?
gokas [?\]: everthing is p[ossible
madcow [1d\]: h4 !
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: this is nothing; in 3 hours more then 50 people will watch the game in this little room as most games are finished then
madcow [1d\]: h4 h4 h4 h4 h4 h4 h4 !
oddalot [7k\]: oh geeze...i gotta move my hand slightly to watch the best go players in the world play at my fingertips....boohoo
akiba [8k?\]: i can't hear anything, what are they talking about?
madcow [1d\]: perhaps e4 is not good
Zahlman [1k\]: h4? what on earth?
ketchup [2k\]: zomg is that chidori?
madcow [1d\]: should have k4 instead
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
LugPaj [2d\]: So the games of the people walking around are already finished ?
Orc [4d\]: I am going to buy their tea next time I go to china
ketchup [2k\]: aww too late off screen
Novalys [2k\]: F5 and take thickness isn't good here
Novalys [2k\]: Black should take territory
Novalys [2k\]: N15 ruins all of black's potential
madcow [1d\]: f5 ?
Novalys [2k\]: it's excellent ^^
Albast [9k\]: Good game so far
Dogen [5k\]: I googled the tea company, and the first hit was an article saying the tea has a strange taste...
madcow [1d\]: N15 BIG
madcow [1d\]: lol
Novalys [2k\]: yanqi is too strong anyways \\o/ 
Zahlman [1k\]: too stong
Novalys [2k\]: too bad she doesn't wanna play on internet
Goemon [?\]: e2?
Zahlman [1k\]: I really hate this pincer btw :)
hammelgans: g4 XD
Goemon [?\]: f5 common
Zahlman [1k\]: f5 old-fashioned I thought
Sheeple [3k\]: i want to see a counterpincer
madcow [1d\]: exactly!
madcow [1d\]: h4 h4 h4 
Novalys [2k\]: if you counter pincer then you're really one sided lol
Zahlman [1k\]: h4 isn't counter pincer, it's shoulder hit
Zahlman [1k\]: and then w just g4 and what good did it do?
madcow [1d\]: it's somekind of pincer
Sheeple [3k\]: one sided isn't bad, if you have a diagonal :)
Novalys [2k\]: lol
Novalys [2k\]: here you don't have it unfortunately
Pizat19 [1k\]: is that a sippy cup next to the white player? lol
Novalys [2k\]: If you focus on one side, means white has the rest
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;B[fo]C[madcow [1d\]: one day computers will crunch the game and tell u that h4  is the right answer
Sheeple [3k\]: w needs several moves to get the rest here
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;W[cm]C[Novalys [2k\]: black choses thickness
tsuchigumo [-\]: d4 c5 c3 b3 d2 c2 d3 b2 h4 is a line, but seems bad hear
Novalys [2k\]: good luck lol
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;B[hp]C[madcow [1d\]: yeah!
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;W[dq]C[madcow [1d\]: h4 
Novalys [2k\]: h3
Zahlman [1k\]: interesting, tsuchigumo
Sheeple [3k\]: w grabbing cash, i like it
Novalys [2k\]: white will win this game :)
LugPaj [2d\]: h3
oddalot [7k\]: you would, sheeple
Sheeple [3k\]: why the conditional? i do.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: btw this is the first time a go congress started on time!!!!!
nay4ok [1d?\]: why d3 and not e3 ?
oddalot [7k\]: because you are but sheeple
nay4ok [1d?\]: what?
Sheeple [3k\]: pff. typical of the organizers, breaking tradition.
tsuchigumo [-\]: e3 only move
Zahlman [1k\]: sheeple, "you would" is a figure of speech here
Novalys [2k\]: E3 not the only move lol
Sheeple [3k\]: i know :)
Novalys [2k\]: H3 too
Novalys [2k\]: And i personnally perfere h3 ^^
Dogen [5k\]: what about C5?
Novalys [2k\]: e3 l3 
tsuchigumo [-\]: if h3, f2 is a good move
madcow [1d\]: d15 getting bigger
Novalys [2k\]: But if E3 you enclose nothing
Novalys [2k\]: white jumps the other side
madcow [1d\]: yes
ketchup [2k\]: are the pairings up anywherE?
babyface [1d\]: h3 and w ignores geez
ketchup [2k\]: online that is
Novalys [2k\]:  you can let w f2 and take big thickness
Yasguri [-\]: j6 ?
Novalys [2k\]: this is the point here
Mefanol [?\]: So then H3?
Goemon [?\]: this lady looks scary
Novalys [2k\]: yes h3
Novalys [2k\]: or tenuki
kratos70 [7k\]: are these pros or just dans?
Novalys [2k\]: This lady is funny ;)
Novalys [2k\]: just dans kratos
takanashi [7d\]: Hi Harry where are korean, if this is first board ? :)
kratos70 [7k\]: thanks
Pizat19 [1k\]: dang, i definitely thought it was a sippy cup :( 
derp [1k\]: I like h3 too
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hi! yes, it is, nice to see you here
Orc [4d\]: white n13 is huge, bigger than any other point
tsuchigumo [-\]: b would welcome a fight on the lower side, he is striong there and would make territory on the right
Sheeple [3k\]: how do you decide it's bigger than any other point?
NicolasXu [8d?\]: come on qiqi
Mefanol [?\]: B's three stones on the lower side feel.......unused..
madcow [1d\]: h3 p5 
tsuchigumo [-\]: sente is very important also right now
Novalys [2k\]: H3 C15 ?
kratos70 [7k\]: does eurogotv broadcast in america?
Novalys [2k\]: i doubt black can afford h3
madcow [1d\]: d15 better shape
Novalys [2k\]: he has to approach the top
Sheeple [3k\]: uhm, it broadcasts on the web, so yes.
NicolasXu [8d?\]: qi qi is good
oddalot [7k\]: yes i am watching in america
NicolasXu [8d?\]: come on
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sometimes, but we are still looking for a eurogotv-us person
Mefanol [?\]: I just showed up, F5 feels like an awkward stone
Novalys [2k\]: who is nicolasxu
derp [1k\]: so h3, d15, or n14?
oddalot [7k\]: h3 ftw
nay4ok [1d?\]: e3 here is better, no?
kratos70 [7k\]: h3 has to be played I think
edowaado [3k\]: how old do you need to be for becoming a eurogo-us person?
oddalot [7k\]: you can see him eyeing the top of the board though...
royalty [4d\]: i'm not sure there are any ftw moves
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 14
Mefanol [?\]: e3 - w J3 tough to get something good...
edowaado [3k\]: yay~
LugPaj [2d\]: is Yanqi living in europe?
Orc [4d\]: 白棋的名字怎么写？
NicolasXu [8d?\]: allez
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, she lives in France
Novalys [2k\]: vas y yanqi
Yasguri [-\]: yes in france
Novalys [2k\]: Yes lugoaj in bezier
NicolasXu [8d?\]: 张妍琪
Novalys [2k\]: lugpaj *
oddalot [7k\]: he's looking at the n13 area, at least that is what it looks like to me
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of thie game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Orc [4d\]: 谢谢！
NicolasXu [8d?\]: elle est formidable
Novalys [2k\]: yanqi va le détruire \\\\o
Novalys [2k\]: ouep nicolasxu ^^
oddalot [7k\]: hey it's breakfast
Novalys [2k\]: elle m'a bien fait rire à madrid la derniere fois ^^
NicolasXu [8d?\]: .
MagicMagor [1k\]: EuroGo, do you know where we can finde the pairings online?
NicolasXu [8d?\]: a madrid?
Novalys [2k\]: oui il y a quelques mois il y a eu un tournoir à madrid
Novalys [2k\]: tournoi*
bistrogo [3d\]: is Thomas in the same room?
LugPaj [2d\]: Can you Zoom to Yanqi ;)?
Novalys [2k\]: black should D15 or  or take h3 gote ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, i dont know, but they should be somewhere
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if you find it pls give me the link
edowaado [3k\]: how old are those 2?
Novalys [2k\]: yanqi 22 if i recall
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 21 i believe
Novalys [2k\]: or 21 i'm not sure :x
edowaado [3k\]: woah they look like 15 years old o.o
Orc [4d\]: white is very strong, used to aim pro
NicolasXu [8d?\]: elle dit que elle aime Madrid
oddalot [7k\]: i'm gettin old then
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i am pritty sure, because she is as old as my daughter
Novalys [2k\]: oué, elle préfère barcelone ^^
Novalys [2k\]: Mais elle aime bien aussi madrid
takanashi [7d\]: Harry, who is the darkhorse of this EGC BUM playing with ? :)
tsuchigumo [-\]: Favorite colour?
Novalys [2k\]: no idea :p
Novalys [2k\]: Go stone color ?
Novalys [2k\]: uhuh
tsuchigumo [-\]: Shoe size?
Contagious [4k\]: je voudrais un croc monsiuer
Novalys [2k\]: I'd like black to play now :/
holynec [?\]: lol the person who plays bum ;D
madcow [1d\]: SE says that W is leading
kane955 [4k\]: as a weak player what is there to read out?
Dogen [5k\]: taking a long time on this move...
NicolasXu [8d?\]: good for white
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i would say bum is the darkhorse
madcow [1d\]: d15 now
NicolasXu [8d?\]: who's the write player?
oddalot [7k\]: If i was running this cam, i would rickroll everyone all the time
Yasguri [-\]: KGS SE sux 
NicolasXu [8d?\]: the white player
Novalys [2k\]: D15 seems nice, but later not playing h3 will hurt black
edowaado [3k\]: Does anyone know if Taranu Catalin is in the congress to?
oddalot [7k\]: hey, that looks like that kid that played artem on youtube
Orc [4d\]: he kid has extraordinary patience
oddalot [7k\]: catalin is there, i saw him on the website
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, Catalin is playing
Goemon [?\]: i am 100% taking more time to play a move in this situation doesnt necessarily mean he is gonna play most effectivemove... such a waste of time
edowaado [3k\]: can i watch it?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of thie game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
edowaado [3k\]: thx
Sheeple [3k\]: w looking bored
ketchup [2k\]: i wonder what black is thinking about
madcow [1d\]: w prolly got it all figured out
oddalot [7k\]: anyone make out the clocks?
Orc [4d\]: Did Catalin get pro from japan?
LugPaj [2d\]: w not looking bored. W looking chinese.
holynec [?\]: yes orc
Sheeple [3k\]: looking bored to me
Sheeple [3k\]: drinking, staring around, etc
holynec [?\]: if that boy just went up and smacked the table
holynec [?\]: id laugh :p
oddalot [7k\]: lol
tsuchigumo [-\]: Wants to hit the shops this pm
Sheeple [3k\]: sunday?
Sheeple [3k\]: nothing is open
Novalys [2k\]: yanqi looks bored :)
LugPaj [2d\]: finally my h3
Dogen [5k\]: took quite a long time for that...
nay4ok [1d?\]: he lsapped and left
ketchup [2k\]: scribe fell asleep?
ketchup [2k\]: :)
holynec [?\]: looks like our scribber went afk too
holynec [?\]: h3 has been played :k
Sheeple [3k\]: and w has no answer prepared is more perplexing to me
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;B[hq]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry
derp [1k\]: think tenuki now
Goemon [?\]: hmm is b doing that on purpose?
holynec [?\]: p5?
oddalot [7k\]: r7 area
oddalot [7k\]: ?
holynec [?\]: maybe q9?
Dogen [5k\]: what's correct etiquette - if your opponent walks away, do you wait until they come back (and use your time) before moving?
Orc [4d\]: white O4 next move?
holynec [?\]: you can move
ketchup [2k\]: oh! that is cornel's daughter after all!
Sheeple [3k\]: that would be some silly etiquette
Novalys [2k\]: Ah he finally played !
nay4ok [1d?\]: p5 or something maybe..
ketchup [2k\]: so odd, i can recognize random people i will never meet..
Goemon [?\]: b k10 would be great 
Novalys [2k\]: D15 and bepatient ?
tsuchigumo [-\]: D15 looks like the normal move
Sheeple [3k\]: never say never, every year a congress
Goemon [?\]: d15 w
derp [1k\]: b p5 seems too good to allow?
Exar [1d\]: anyone in contact with anyone at the event?  i'd pay them to moonwalk past the door on the webcam
Novalys [2k\]: n13 as an immense value too
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;W[pk]C[Novalys [2k\]: wow lol
Goemon [?\]: pro move ^^
Dogen [5k\]: nice
Goemon [?\]: :P
Goemon [?\]: shoulder hit
ketchup [2k\]: q9 too painful..
Novalys [2k\]: shoulder hit pro move ?
Novalys [2k\]: xD
ketchup [2k\]: yes shoulder hit like this is pro move
ketchup [2k\]: too st0ng!
Yasguri [-\]: just normal move
Novalys [2k\]: well it's a shoulder hit
Novalys [2k\]: nothing fancy
holynec [?\]: i think p10 might've been lighter hmm
Sheeple [3k\]: r4 also pro move
oddalot [7k\]: how do you respond?
Dogen [5k\]: p10 lets B play q8, which would be too good for B
Novalys [2k\]: you cry oddalot
Novalys [2k\]: it is how we respond
holynec [?\]: then white s4
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;B[qk]C[ketchup [2k\]: yes this move makes you want to weep
holynec [?\]: oh well :\]
oddalot [7k\]: oh good, i would of played r9 too
Goemon [?\]: s4
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;W[pl]C[Novalys [2k\]: w can s4 or just Q8q8 q10 o9 q10 n7 
kryft [1k?\]: oddalot, q10 is another normal response.
Goemon [?\]: b r10?
Orc [4d\]: blk seems to be over concentrated
tsuchigumo [-\]: q10 make b overconcentrated
Novalys [2k\]: damn, the second Q10 was P10 sorry
LugPaj [2d\]: i think most go players cannot think without a stone in their hands
ketchup [2k\]: c16...
Novalys [2k\]: I cannot write a sequence while kibitzing :p
Faux [-\]: The stone likes to make suggestions :) Some don't want to die ;D
ketchup [2k\]: end up in sente some how~
Novalys [2k\]: ketchup tenuki is bad
Sheeple [3k\]: LugPaj, that would explain online blitz.
Faux [-\]: Haha, Sheeple.
tsuchigumo [-\]: but p11 makes poor shape for b
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;B[pj]
;W[nk]
;B[oj]C[holynec [?\]: who is that creepr by the door
Novalys [2k\]: o9 p10 n7 
Yasguri [-\]: o9 p10 n8 
Novalys [2k\]: textbook
Goemon [?\]: her hair style looks cute ^^
gornuf [19k\]: i agree
Sheeple [3k\]: ok, now it looks overconcentrated for b.
Novalys [2k\]: N7 is the shape yasguri usualy
Yasguri [-\]: n8 is better than n7
Novalys [2k\]: It's faster than the kosumi
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;W[mm]C[Novalys [2k\]: the mid game joseki is n8 :)
Novalys [2k\]: n7*
nay4ok [1d?\]: bad shape
Novalys [2k\]: usual shape T_T
Faux [-\]: usual, but bad
nay4ok [1d?\]: o7 is a good shape
holynec [?\]: time to approach top left?
kryft [1k?\]: tsuchigumo, I meant that q10 is another normal response locally, not necessarily in this situation.
Novalys [2k\]: need to be fast, the shoulder hit is to erase
Violence [-\]: how is this bad shape?
Orc [4d\]: white has nice shape here
Novalys [2k\]: you don't have to make nice heavy group
Novalys [2k\]: you just erase and leave
Violence [-\]: .... N8 says that a play around N11 is big
Novalys [2k\]: it is the point of this shape, you're light and fast
Violence [-\]: N7 says that a play on the lower side is big
Violence [-\]: which do you choose?
wesley [7k?\]: n7 n8 n11 ..they can talk?
Faux [-\]: Yes, they can.
Goemon [?\]: p5?
Violence [-\]: If you listen, they do
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;B[mo]C[Sheeple [3k\]: according to takemiya they cry a lot.
Faux [-\]: Haha, Surely.
Sheeple [3k\]: looks loose
Novalys [2k\]: take D15 now yanqi \\o/
holynec [?\]: who does sheeple?
Sheeple [3k\]: stones
Sheeple [3k\]: (not the band)
kryft [1k?\]: Hmm, interesting move.
wesley [7k?\]: w needs to reinforce j17 c14 ect
gornuf [19k\]: L6
edowaado [3k\]: will there also be showen 9x9 matches : O!?
Novalys [2k\]: black can D15 ?
Novalys [2k\]: White**
kryft [1k?\]: The shape looks so strange that this never would have occurred to me.
Novalys [2k\]: and leave the group light
kane955 [4k\]: p5
Novalys [2k\]: You talk about N 5 kryft ?
kryft [1k?\]: Yes.
Novalys [2k\]: yes it looks funny ^^
derp [1k\]: doesn't seems like b can attack it and gain much extra profit
Novalys [2k\]: but it secures more or less the bottom
Dogen [5k\]: should b erase the top now?
Sheeple [3k\]: i'm not convinced
kryft [1k?\]: Novalys, I would say less ;)
Sheeple [3k\]: of the securing that is.
wesley [7k?\]: b got a secure bit around r13 and l3 ...white on the otherhand only has influence...it's not really territory YET
tsuchigumo [-\]: w n11 seems nice
madcow [1d\]: n5 looks kyuish
Sheeple [3k\]: bottom isn't exactly territory yet either
Dogen [5k\]: lol
Dogen [5k\]: i was thinking, that was the kind of move i'd play
Dogen [5k\]: and it looks weak somehow
kane955 [4k\]: n5 is good shape
Yasguri [-\]: n11 doesn't look a good shape
madcow [1d\]: creates a good attack point at o4  later
Yasguri [-\]: i lke o10
Violence [-\]: N5...
Violence [-\]: it feels kinda loose, no?
Orc [4d\]: N5 isnt too nice...
kryft [1k?\]: Violence, Yes.
Violence [-\]: What does it do with H4?
madcow [1d\]: i don't like N5
Violence [-\]: It feels like it wants to accomplish too much
Violence [-\]: and ends up not doing enough
Yasguri [-\]: me too
madcow [1d\]: i would rather l7 than N5
Dogen [5k\]: it looks too high
Dogen [5k\]: M4 better?
kane955 [4k\]: "p6" makes it look nice just becuase it isnt played yet its good shape
madcow [1d\]: I7 is manhood move
Orc [4d\]: n5 didn't secure the territory... white can invade later
Sheeple [3k\]: l7 doesn't do anything good while attacking
yithril [2d\]: reinforce maybe but ugh
kryft [1k?\]: It's too high to really secure anything on the bottom, and it doesn't really put pressure on white either.
Violence [-\]: Like... this is trying to attack white
Violence [-\]: but white's shape is resilient
Violence [-\]: so....
Violence [-\]: I don't really like this move
LugPaj [2d\]: w tenuki now?
madcow [1d\]: there is no B n9 ... how wouold n5  attack?
jjhhuu [4d\]: tenuki strong
Yasguri [-\]:  time to ask S4 ? 
madcow [1d\]: n11 
Orc [4d\]: myabe white N10 next move?
madcow [1d\]: n11 seems good
Violence [-\]: I don't think S4 timing is right yet,  because the primary place of interest is the M3 area, Yasguri
Yasguri [-\]: i like n10
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;W[np]C[Violence [-\]: I like O10, personally
acellist1 [4k\]: wow o4
Orc [4d\]: white says N5 is too loose...
nay4ok [1d?\]: weird
Violence [-\]: ah, not missing a beat
madcow [1d\]: that's being impatient
wesley [7k?\]: wow...i'm so impatient. I guess this is a side effect of growing up with MBps connections, fast cars, aeroplanes, 
tsuchigumo [-\]: w didn't think much of n5!
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;W[po]C[acellist1 [4k\]: haha
Sheeple [3k\]: never seen this shape before
Violence [-\]: three parallel knight's moves
Violence [-\]: how rare
kane955 [4k\]: haha i called it
Novalys [2k\]: called elephant eye
madcow [1d\]: i thikn W feels that N5 is Kyuish too
yithril [2d\]: omg
Sheeple [3k\]: this has a name even? man
Novalys [2k\]: Two elephant eyes are being killed :p
yithril [2d\]: i take a moment away from the board
yithril [2d\]: awesosem
Novalys [2k\]: the poor guy looks puzzled
madcow [1d\]: can somoene take a picture of thsi? it looks kinda nice
kryft [1k?\]: Wow :)
Violence [-\]: looks like I'm not sleeping anytime soon
Orc [4d\]: normally you can't touch elepant's eye
Violence [-\]: White must have quite some power
madcow [1d\]: take a pic and send to mammoth of this double elephant eye
Violence [-\]: to be able to play this
kryft [1k?\]: Orc, Yeah; the elephant will trample you.
yithril [2d\]: actually im not reading a way to directly destroy it
Violence [-\]: Wow....
madcow [1d\]: q4 
nay4ok [1d?\]: what's an elephant eye?
Zahlman [1k\]: amazing shape
Violence [-\]: this is so beautiful...
Violence [-\]: what can you do here?
Novalys [2k\]: This shape n5 o4 p3 
isbhal [-\]: x
Novalys [2k\]: is elephant eye
Dogen [5k\]: the two choices that come to mind for me for B are P4 or P5; he should cut through, correct?
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;B[oo]C[Violence [-\]: Dogen, white will sacrifice one stone though
Violence [-\]: and take advantage locally
madcow [1d\]: q4 q4 
Zahlman [1k\]: q4
Dogen [5k\]: sure, but B gets profit too
Dogen [5k\]: and gets more solid
Violence [-\]: I don't feel that's worth it
Novalys [2k\]: it was funny, i didn't know i was going to see this shape one day lol, double eleph eye ^^
Violence [-\]: since it was his area in the first place
madcow [1d\]: this is dangerous
Zahlman [1k\]: q4 p4 q3
Novalys [2k\]: corner will get damaged
Novalys [2k\]: Gameover soon
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;W[pp]
;B[op]
;W[pq]C[Novalys [2k\]: yanqi is so powerful 
]
;B[pn]C[Zahlman [1k\]: b gives corner for outside
Violence [-\]: man...
Sheeple [3k\]: is this 4 corners? b will have to resign.
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;W[qo]C[Zahlman [1k\]: hardly game-ending
Violence [-\]: Miao shou, seriously...
wesley [7k?\]: CARPENTERS square
Violence [-\]: Q5 is just breathtaking
Sheeple [3k\]: it's game-ending. loss by proverb.
Novalys [2k\]: after this black has absolutely NO potentil
Novalys [2k\]: potential*
Orc [4d\]: Q8 stone is light now,white can abandon
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;B[qn]C[Zahlman [1k\]: b plenty of potential
Novalys [2k\]: He has a few points in the bottom, a few on top right... w just plays C15 and has more
Zahlman [1k\]: l3 area
Violence [-\]: The whole O9 group feels like an outboxer
Novalys [2k\]: Zahlman this is not enough
Sheeple [3k\]: w won't come out here with sente surely
Violence [-\]: out of reach
Dogen [5k\]: does W need to respond locally?
Novalys [2k\]: because b only has this whereas white has the rest of goban
Novalys [2k\]: R2
Zahlman [1k\]: w is far from "having" the rest
Novalys [2k\]: W has the top, and bottom left
Zahlman [1k\]: and o9 not exactly thick
wikkawakka: at the moment...
Novalys [2k\]: he can secure points in top left and she'll have enough
Violence [-\]: So if white tenuki's, black has R3, right?
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;W[rp]C[Novalys [2k\]: o9 is made to be light
Violence [-\]: yeah, so white can't tenuki
Violence [-\]: but now...
Violence [-\]: what does black do?
Violence [-\]: White's position is so nice...
Zahlman [1k\]: n11
Dogen [5k\]: D15
madcow [1d\]: look at B
madcow [1d\]: yucks
Sheeple [3k\]: q2 just for good measure
yithril [2d\]: black tenuki c 15 or something
Novalys [2k\]: n11 l9  (or m9)
madcow [1d\]: l7 elephant again?
Violence [-\]: I mean, he has to tenuki
Violence [-\]: but try to count for a second
Violence [-\]: think about how you would plan to win this game as black
madcow [1d\]: wow.. se says W+82
Violence [-\]: It... doesn't feel very easy to me
Novalys [2k\]: hitting w in the face violence
Sheeple [3k\]: kill o9
Novalys [2k\]: lol
dongsaeng [3d\]: is that guo juan ?
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;B[lk]C[Violence [-\]: Yeah, sheeple, I think the first thing you have to do is attack O9
Novalys [2k\]: lol no
Novalys [2k\]: ah yes
Novalys [2k\]: sorry
madcow [1d\]: d15 is biggest now
Sheeple [3k\]: b thinks so too :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Guo Juan 5p watching
Novalys [2k\]: i hadn't checked the video
yithril [2d\]: i should've typed this point out when i had the chance
Orc [4d\]: why not S5 instead of S4? white can live bigger
dongsaeng [3d\]: novalys...
Violence [-\]: But the attack isn't so easy...
Novalys [2k\]: guo juan is dressed stylish
tsuchigumo [-\]: I feel you are all being a little negative about b's game
Zahlman [1k\]: agree tsuchi
madcow [1d\]: s6 first
Violence [-\]: I mean, it's my personal bias
Dogen [5k\]: B does seem to be getting pushed around
Violence [-\]: but I think that black has a tough game now
madcow [1d\]: S6 and then n10 later
Novalys [2k\]: I think this game is over already
Violence [-\]: I wouldn't go that far, Nova
Novalys [2k\]: I would
Sheeple [3k\]: b has no problems, except being strapped for cash :)
Violence [-\]: but I think it's at least pretty tough
madcow [1d\]: s6 s6 !
kryft [1k?\]: N5 said that black thinks o9 can be attacked, so I guess this is consistent from that perspective as well.
Dogen [5k\]: N10 runs out
Zahlman [1k\]: when people below my rank say things like it's over for b, it makes me want to challenge them to complete the game from the board position...
Sheeple [3k\]: do it
Novalys [2k\]: but rank is so meaningless on kgs zahlman ):
tsuchigumo [-\]: Sure w is ahead territorially, but if himountain were playing b you would all be saying what big trouble w is in in the centre
yithril [2d\]: i wouldnt directly defend the group though
LugPaj [2d\]: this game is over for b ;).
yithril [2d\]: but seems so big if it dies
kryft [1k?\]: Novalys, Meaningless how?
yithril [2d\]: argh
ndfsoccer [1d\]: who is himountain?
Zahlman [1k\]: point is, hardly anyone on kgs is really in a position to make such sweeping statements
Muscadet [?\]: why not take the q2 - r2 s5 -r3  exchanges, then attack?
Novalys [2k\]: Meaningless like last time i totally crushed a 1d even game, i can still see some 3kyus who have better basics than 2d :)
Novalys [2k\]: That's how it's meaningless between 3k and 2d ^^
Novalys [2k\]: After it becomes normal
dongsaeng [3d\]: lol
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;W[km]
;B[jk]C[ndfsoccer [1d\]: haha
yithril [2d\]: gosh darn it
beelzebub6 [3d\]: black has plenty of terri
yithril [2d\]: why dont i type faster
Violence [-\]: I dunno, Tsuchi, if this were a professional game, I still like white
Sheeple [3k\]: now greed drives w to the bottom where he dies a sudden death
Sheeple [3k\]: she
Sheeple [3k\]: *
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;W[im]C[Violence [-\]: I just don't think it's very easy to kill this group
Zahlman [1k\]: m9 was a neat attack
Violence [-\]: at least, not all of it
Violence [-\]: I think that's impossible
kryft [1k?\]: Ikken tobi is never wrong. =)
Orc [4d\]: next move, white J7, blk H8, white is a bit under pressuer
Novalys [2k\]: m9 probably neat attack but it's dame area for the moment :)
Dogen [5k\]: N8 / O7 cut for B?
LugPaj [2d\]: i already wanted to say, that Sheeple seems to know more details than all other of us can see
Novalys [2k\]: while w is jumping around b's potential in the bottom
tsuchigumo [-\]: Psychologically, b should welcome a complicated fight, as probably his best chance to win against a stronger opponent
Zahlman [1k\]: h8
Violence [-\]: but is this fight complicated, Tsuchi?
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;B[jn]C[Novalys [2k\]: yes h8 only move
Sheeple [3k\]: depends on why w is stronger
Novalys [2k\]: has to get ahead
Zahlman [1k\]: o_O
Violence [-\]: L8 now?
Goemon [?\]: l8
Novalys [2k\]: COnnect
kryft [1k?\]: Novalys, Erm, that's not very convincing evidence for such a strong statement as 'rank is meaningless on KGS'. :) 
Zahlman [1k\]: odd timing for this peep imo
]
;W[kl]C[Violence [-\]: this....
Uberdude [4d?\]: peep the bamboo!
Violence [-\]: now I really don't like black's position
Goemon [?\]: b lets w live and b will gain moyo ?
Goemon [?\]: is that b's plan ?
Novalys [2k\]: kryft i played many low dans and "high" kyus, and i didn't see much difference in the games
tsuchigumo [-\]: I agree peep looked wrfong
Novalys [2k\]: except fuseki knowledge more developped
dongsaeng [3d\]: that's because you dont understand the difference novalys
Novalys [2k\]: it's how i see it ^^
dongsaeng [3d\]: the gap is big
Orc [4d\]: typical bad shape to peep bamboo from both side
Zahlman [1k\]: um, where is such a shape?
Novalys [2k\]: dongsaeng, it's not that i don't understand the difference, it's that i sometimes struggle more against a 2k than a 1d
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;B[ij]C[Novalys [2k\]: well anyways this is off topic
Goemon [?\]: n9 small?
]
;W[il]
;B[gk]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: b is playing too quickly at the crucial stage of the game imo
Novalys [2k\]: he's getting excited ;)
Novalys [2k\]: i like this feeling
madcow [1d\]: silly W!
edowaado [3k\]: he doesn´t look excited
Zahlman [1k\]: b plays this part fast, and the first few moves slow... o_O
Dogen [5k\]: do these players play on KGS?
Sheeple [3k\]: probably he knows fighting
Sheeple [3k\]: hard to read in fuseki
]
;W[kk]C[Orc [4d\]: thats what I said, this kid used to spend 30 mins on his first move against me
edowaado [3k\]: you got a point there
Violence [-\]: nah... I think he's desparing a bit
]
;B[kj]
;W[lj]
;B[mj]C[madcow [1d\]: i thikn W is probably about 1d in KGS
]
;W[li]C[Violence [-\]: his shape looks quite fragile...
holynec [?\]: that's called the stare-down Orc ;)
Novalys [2k\]: Madcow...
madcow [1d\]: i am serious
Novalys [2k\]: W is probably stronger than you'll never be
]
;B[mk]
;W[ki]
;B[jj]C[madcow [1d\]: look at W get butchered
Novalys [2k\]: but lol...
Orc [4d\]: white should be around kgs 8d
madcow [1d\]: really?
Novalys [2k\]: Madcow doesn't get the game
madcow [1d\]: i think the direction is wrong
BenSenTen [?\]: but is just 6d at present??
Novalys [2k\]: the group is not dead here.. and w just have to escape and win
nay4ok [1d?\]: mm.. that lady
nay4ok [1d?\]: is she pro?
Violence [-\]: Q5.... that kind of move tells me at least KGS 6d-7d
madcow [1d\]: are u serious about 8d?
Novalys [2k\]: yes
dongsaeng [3d\]: that lady is Guo Juan nay4ok
kryft [1k?\]: BenSenTen, The 6 dan is not his KGS rank.
LugPaj [2d\]: BenSenTen , 6d Europe != 6d KGS
Orc [4d\]: she was trying to be pro, so I am guessing
Novalys [2k\]: She doesn't play on internet
Novalys [2k\]: but she is 6d egf..
Exar [1d\]: was that dinerchtein in the picture just now?
Zahlman [1k\]: violence, I sometimes play stuff like that just because I want the proverbs to be happy
madcow [1d\]: at most 3d KGS
BenSenTen [?\]: even k may accidently make q5...
Novalys [2k\]: it's not 1dkgs at all ^^
Novalys [2k\]: lol madcow T_T
tsuchigumo [-\]: b's shapes don't look good enough
takanashi [7d\]: BUM is there!
Novalys [2k\]: guo juan looks stylish
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes^^
takanashi [7d\]: drinking cola from Mcdonald :)
BenSenTen [?\]: seems b is in trouble
dongsaeng [3d\]: BUM and Mc's
takanashi [7d\]: no chance for his opponent
Violence [-\]: Haha, I see
Onmyoji [2d\]: why so long time limits?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hahaha
Sheeple [3k\]: this fj here is 6d egf.
BenSenTen [?\]: maybe w is really 8d or even 9d...
madcow [1d\]: i doubt it
BenSenTen [?\]: kgs
takanashi [7d\]: already leading 20 points face
BenSenTen [?\]: it's good to doubt everything
madcow [1d\]: W looks dead
Novalys [2k\]: stop trolling : /
Violence [-\]: I don't think white looks dead..
Novalys [2k\]: this is why i say 3k and 1d no difference
BenSenTen [?\]: what lady u were talking??
Novalys [2k\]: just listen to madcow to see : /
BenSenTen [?\]: b?
tsuchigumo [-\]: critical point
Zahlman [1k\]: madcow is just a troll :P
LugPaj [2d\]: who is not
NicolasXu [8d?\]: .
madcow [1d\]: right.
madcow [1d\]: look at W shape
BenSenTen [?\]: what move u would suggest??
Zahlman [1k\]: lug, noone who is talking, anyway :) we're all trolls here
Dogen [5k\]: O10?
LugPaj [2d\]: i like b in this fight...i doubt w will get good result
madcow [1d\]: w's thickness at the top will be lost in this fight
BenSenTen [?\]: g8? g7?  f7?
dongsaeng [3d\]: that guys shirt is kind of hypnotising
BenSenTen [?\]: u r talking something like a match between a girl n a boy
Hellhuman [4k\]: is in seoing playing this tournament?
Coolsven [14k\]: has this game stopped?
BenSenTen [?\]: n the girl deliberately not wearing something...
Sheeple [3k\]: maybe f8
gyokuro [4k\]: rustysword entered the building
madcow [1d\]: is rusty playing?
Zahlman [1k\]: how can all these kgs players be recognized on sight?
madcow [1d\]: he holds a rusty sword, zahl
tsuchigumo [-\]: I would start with m5
BenSenTen [?\]: maybe recognised by a bot who has every details of every players...
holynec [?\]: ah i missed these peple :[
Novalys [2k\]: chi min rocks too \\o/
LugPaj [2d\]: many stalkers among kibitzers
Novalys [2k\]: like me ?
Orc [4d\]: seems white has overplayed here, now hard to escape
Novalys [2k\]: :p
bistrogo [3d\]: I don't think so
LugPaj [2d\]: bistrogo, what would you play
Sheeple [3k\]: w should resign, w really dan, etc.
madcow [1d\]: *\\o/* Nemlij *\\o/*
bistrogo [3d\]: don't know yet need time but there are many weakness to use
Orc [4d\]: G8 doesnt seem to be the way out
Violence [-\]: it's complicated...
Dogen [5k\]: H9?
Dogen [5k\]: then cut?
Violence [-\]: but it doesn't feel easy for either side
Novalys [2k\]: create aji in the bottom before trying to get out ?
Violence [-\]: nah, dogen... that seems very farfetched
Novalys [2k\]: no idea how however :p
Onmyoji [2d\]: too long time settings
tsuchigumo [-\]: in extremis h9, g8 etc seem to work, but vulgar
Dogen [5k\]: too long for KGS players :-)
holynec [?\]: who's that asian
bistrogo [3d\]: perfect time settings :)
Onmyoji [2d\]: why so long?
Novalys [2k\]: G8
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;W[gl]
;B[fl]C[holynec [?\]: asian dude: this game is amateur *leaves*
BenSenTen [?\]: b may ignore m5 n connect
bistrogo [3d\]: because the longer...
Sheeple [3k\]: that was rustysword
BenSenTen [?\]: maybe m5 not very good now
Sheeple [3k\]: he's amateur too
Novalys [2k\]: strong though ^^
BenSenTen [?\]: amateur with pro strength, maybe
BenSenTen [?\]: or even stronger than pro
madcow [1d\]: i think W is dead
Dogen [5k\]: cross-cut
Novalys [2k\]: still very hard to cut
madcow [1d\]: if W is thinking now does that mean that W did expect f8 ?
Novalys [2k\]: to kill sorry
Onmyoji [2d\]: how old are the players?
Novalys [2k\]: 22 and i don't know
LugPaj [2d\]: 22
dupre [1k\]: is B a Russian?
BenSenTen [?\]: i guess so
fractic [1k\]: you can look it up at the site of the EGC if you want
svrcd [?\]: yes, black is russian
Zahlman [1k\]: who was the guy in the orange sash O_O
BenSenTen [?\]: w is a chinese
Orc [4d\]: what is that fat guy wearing? hehe
BenSenTen [?\]: fat guy wearing his fat even naked...
spider451 [-\]: are the results posted somewhere afetr?
holynec [?\]: guo juan?!
Novalys [2k\]: F7 for white
Novalys [2k\]: yes
IGoofy [1d\]: grandma watching
bistrogo [3d\]: ^^
Novalys [2k\]: gogogo yanqi, find some tesuji then you win
Orc [4d\]: white f7, blk E7, white is in real trouble
Dogen [5k\]: F7 fail
dongsaeng [3d\]: yanqi is cute
dongsaeng [3d\]: im gonna have her
Zahlman [1k\]: maybe it's just me but guo seemed disappointed
madcow [1d\]: *\\o/* Nemlij *\\o/*
tsuchigumo [-\]: w paying a price here, L9 and cut maybe wrong timing?
madcow [1d\]: l7 is a mistake
Dogen [5k\]: W clearly didn't have a strategy after that cut
Novalys [2k\]: looks still complicated
Zahlman [1k\]: dongsaeng don't you think she is too young for that o_O
LugPaj [2d\]: dongsaeng: Yangi is a cross dresser in reality
dongsaeng [3d\]: i dont mind
dongsaeng [3d\]: im young too
dongsaeng [3d\]: and a cross dresser
dongsaeng [3d\]: ;-\]
Violence [-\]: Dogen: Those M11 exchanges are good for white anyways
Novalys [2k\]: what is "cross dresser"
Violence [-\]: and are independent of white actually getting out
madcow [1d\]: someone who wears a cross
Zahlman [1k\]: ah, the sash reads "referee"
BenSenTen [?\]: u dress for me n i dress for u??
Sheeple [3k\]: no, someone who dresses up crosses.
Sheeple [3k\]: or who gets angry dressing.
spider451 [-\]: orc what do u think w can do?
madcow [1d\]: w about to give up
acellist1 [4k\]: or a clothing storage unit shaped like a crucifix
holynec [?\]: Novalys: someone who dresses as the other gender (thus, crossing the gender line)
Sheeple [3k\]: won't give up till death is obviously inevitable
Zahlman [1k\]: she looks very concerned
Dogen [5k\]: so maybe B N5 was a good move after all?
Sheeple [3k\]: there's always ko or something
Zahlman [1k\]: are other games in the same room? I think I hear the rattling of stones often...
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Yes, board 2 is in the same room
Dogen [5k\]: can you have the cameraman pan to show us the room?
Goemon [?\]: time left?
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;W[lo]C[madcow [1d\]: while i still lived in the real world, i love the rattle of the stones
holynec [?\]: madcow, you are dead?!
BenSenTen [?\]: 3 asian vs 3 european?
bobstep [4k?\]: board 2 is cornel, looks in trouble to me
Zahlman [1k\]: madcow is trapped in the realm of the internet
takanashi [7d\]: they plan in kitchen ?:)
Novalys [2k\]: ah here is my aji in the bottom
takanashi [7d\]: play
LugPaj [2d\]: whats on the right`
LugPaj [2d\]: ?
Sheeple [3k\]: maybe trying to live here, but that looks farfetched
madcow [1d\]: nice call, novalys
BenSenTen [?\]: w at last m5
IGoofy [1d\]: what an ugly shirt cornel has
IGoofy [1d\]: like table cloth
Novalys [2k\]: lol
Onmyoji [2d\]: not ugly
Zahlman [1k\]: is that supposed to be an ad for the tea company in the background?
Onmyoji [2d\]: i like it
Orc [4d\]: seems they r playing in a kitchen
Dogen [5k\]: yea, the thing about their tea, it seems, is that the leaves float vertically
holynec [?\]: im down for some tea
Novalys [2k\]: zahlman, it's just a big box of week :p
Novalys [2k\]: weed*
holynec [?\]: banned
Dogen [5k\]: it's weird; but westerners don't drink tea by putting loose leaves in a glass
spider451 [-\]: yes
Goemon [?\]: i do
tealeaf [6k?\]: I do too
Sheeple [3k\]: surprise :P
Zahlman [1k\]: awww a little kid
Dogen [5k\]: ok, well you're weird :-)
Novalys [2k\]: you put yourself in water tealeaf ?
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;B[mn]C[tealeaf [6k?\]: Frequently
IGoofy [1d\]: tea grows in tea bags so let it in there
Novalys [2k\]: J5 ?
Novalys [2k\]: k5 maybe
Orc [4d\]: K5?
BenSenTen [?\]: l4?
DragonXiao [7k\]: so both players actually have 2.5 hours each?
Zahlman [1k\]: J5 would be thematic :)
tsuchigumo [-\]: quick reply, maybe too quick
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
madcow [1d\]: N6 seems wrong too
tsuchigumo [-\]: b playing from the strong side
madcow [1d\]: b should just k4 
tsuchigumo [-\]: we'll see
Orc [4d\]: white played too risky
madcow [1d\]: b loves elephant shapes
Zahlman [1k\]: these kids have more patience for just sitting there than anyone I know personally of any age, I think :/
Goemon [?\]: what was wrong with l5 instead?
BenSenTen [?\]: don't know maybe a better move
Zahlman [1k\]: bah, I say that, and one of them gets up >_<
Sheeple [3k\]: you didn't know sound was bidirectional?
Zahlman [1k\]: write* :/
Sheeple [3k\]: still. harry reads every line faithfully. :)
BenSenTen [?\]: i don't know, i only know it's multidirectional...
xpolyplus [4k\]: l5 
xpolyplus [4k\]: on webcam
madcow [1d\]: L5  is good for W now
holynec [?\]: madcow, you are strong
madcow [1d\]: thank you
IGoofy [1d\]: why is the goban so thick ?
Sheeple [3k\]: reinforced for pro moves.
xpolyplus [4k\]: madcow you are watching the eurogotv webcam XD
holynec [?\]: have you not seen thicker IGoofy?
madcow [1d\]: nope
madcow [1d\]: i am not a member
BenSenTen [?\]: to prevent shaking by earthquake
IGoofy [1d\]: no
dongsaeng [3d\]: because she likes it thick
Onmyoji [2d\]: ;i
madcow [1d\]: omg
Zahlman [1k\]: this is thin compared to floor goban
IGoofy [1d\]: doesnt make sense to me
Dogen [5k\]: how many of the top games are being played now? surely more than the three that are on KGS?
Novalys [2k\]: gogogo yanqi \\o/
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 350 games
Sheeple [3k\]: round started at 10, all that aren't finished are still playing :)
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;W[jo]C[Dogen [5k\]: all the first pairings listed on the site are now?
Yasguri [-\]: je sens que blanc va crever
tsuchigumo [-\]: seems best
Zahlman [1k\]: she is drinking bubble tea or something?
madcow [1d\]: noo
holynec [?\]: and cornel joins the table
IGoofy [1d\]: the shirt ....
madcow [1d\]: j5 
xpolyplus [4k\]: ihihihi
xpolyplus [4k\]: XD
Orc [4d\]: when white get H6 point, white can connect at F7
madcow [1d\]: j5 takes the bottom
Zahlman [1k\]: she looks very nervous
madcow [1d\]: h6 
madcow [1d\]: 1 eye and die!
sfrex [2k\]: who is she
Zahlman [1k\]: zhang yanqi, like it says
LugPaj [2d\]: bum again
holynec [?\]: ah, yes bum!
Novalys [2k\]: Yeah K5 :)
holynec [?\]: interview please now :o
madcow [1d\]: h6 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
Zahlman [1k\]: sorry, which one is bum?
tsuchigumo [-\]: Maybe w can give centre group to capture h4 and bottom
Orc [4d\]: why not have some commentator there say something about the egc in front of camera?
holynec [?\]: Can we get a description of what Cornel is wearing...
LugPaj [2d\]: he was the one with the dirty white pullover or so
fab [-\]: capturing H4 would be very good for white
seppy [5k?\]: eurogo where can i find last tournament reviews?????
Zahlman [1k\]: I can't imagine h4 getting captured
IGoofy [1d\]: cornel has stolen a towel to get a shirt out of it
holynec [?\]: there's the little bugger
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you cannot find it yet
madcow [1d\]: i saw him do it, but it was actually a door mat, not a towel
holynec [?\]: i really wonder what those refs do...
tsuchigumo [-\]: well if b j6, then j5, h6, h5 etc
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i have been very lazy
Orc [4d\]: the fat guy is wearing a red band accoss his body
holynec [?\]: we can transcribe for you from here if you need help eurogo ;)
Zahlman [1k\]: b didn't even speak to confirm where w played...
IGoofy [1d\]: makes him smaller
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and didnt make the script for it
holynec [?\]: just need a better angle :p
BenSenTen [?\]: then say something to compensate yr laziness
Novalys [2k\]: oh i know the guy watching
seppy [5k?\]: ok
]
;B[io]C[Novalys [2k\]: he was in madrid, he organised the tourney
]
;W[in]
;B[ko]C[Novalys [2k\]: Now  F7 works ?
Zahlman [1k\]: novalys, the one with the goatee and the i ching shirt?
madcow [1d\]: oh no
tsuchigumo [-\]: bad shape from b
Novalys [2k\]: yes 
madcow [1d\]: this looks like a mistake
madcow [1d\]: b should have just given 1 eye to W and kill W
Novalys [2k\]: chi min \\^\\O/
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no
Orc [4d\]: the lad in white seems to  be strong korean player
]
;W[jp]C[Novalys [2k\]: he looks like chi min
Novalys [2k\]: like crazy :x
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, but not Oh Chimin
Zahlman [1k\]: getting a little more crowded in there now...
IGoofy [1d\]: rather seolki 
dongsaeng [3d\]: he is handsome
Novalys [2k\]: they got same glasses almost ^^
BenSenTen [?\]: b should give away k6
Novalys [2k\]: i didn't know they looked alive
Novalys [2k\]: alike*
Zahlman [1k\]: 100 viewers on the stream, congrats!
Novalys [2k\]: actually it's just me zahlman, i connected 50 times
Novalys [2k\]: :p
tsuchigumo [-\]: i think w is ok now
Orc [4d\]: it said "REFEREE" on the band
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of thie game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Zahlman [1k\]: yep
BenSenTen [?\]: h6?
Novalys [2k\]: black has to defend otherwixse p3 in dangzr
Novalys [2k\]: danger*
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: quality of the stream?
Novalys [2k\]: ah no there is S7 anytime
Sheeple [3k\]: eurogotv needs to spellcheck his clipboard :)
Novalys [2k\]: really nice quality
mb76 [5k?\]: excellent
IGoofy [1d\]: strem is nice
Orc [4d\]: very smooth 
Zahlman [1k\]: stream is pretty good overall
dongsaeng [3d\]: highdefination quality
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
Sheeple [3k\]: could you zoom the clocks for a sec?
Zahlman [1k\]: I get the occasional pause, but I have a download too so :/
royalty [4d\]: i need more blueray discs to record the stream
Orc [4d\]: would be good if we can see the lobby too, not just the top table
Zahlman [1k\]: b 1:12, w 1:33
Sheeple [3k\]: thanks:)
just9x9 [-\]: life stream of the party would be fine as well ;P
Sheeple [3k\]: is that this talking ing type?
Zahlman [1k\]: b played l4
Orc [4d\]: this is actually better angel, closer to the board
Onmyoji [2d\]: no
Dogen [5k\]: yes, now just straighten it a bit... :-)
Novalys [2k\]: it is focused on yanqi :p
dongsaeng [3d\]: :P
madcow [1d\]: W might still die!
dongsaeng [3d\]: im glad
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;B[kp]C[Novalys [2k\]: the poor igor doesn't have right to fame
]
;W[jq]C[bobstep [4k?\]: halo brightens board
IGoofy [1d\]: a troll is watching
madcow [1d\]: is yangqi cute? }:_)
Novalys [2k\]: w aiming H5 ?
dongsaeng [3d\]: yeah~~
royalty [4d\]: i'm unsure what white can do with these three stones
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: he puts his chair 1 meter behind...
holynec [?\]: is he sitting on the edge?
Novalys [2k\]: just create aji with H5 to escape royalty ?
holynec [?\]: gonna fall? :D
Orc [4d\]: guo juan
tomash [3k\]: guo juan?
holynec [?\]: aji to fall
royalty [4d\]: well, white could escape just with h9
tsuchigumo [-\]: danger, b needs to be careful here
BenSenTen [?\]: will b l6??
Orc [4d\]: I like her dressing today
royalty [4d\]: but i guess black cant prevent connection
Novalys [2k\]: yes she is really stylish in it
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: why not L6 for b?
madcow [1d\]: g5 now?
Violence [-\]: it looks hard to kill white...
IGoofy [1d\]: guo saw herself 60 years ago
tsuchigumo [-\]: h5 and g4 for w
Novalys [2k\]: less igoofy
Novalys [2k\]: guo juan is not 100years old
madcow [1d\]: about 70
IGoofy [1d\]: ^^
dongsaeng [3d\]: and yanqi is not 40
Kyuss [1k\]: i thought she was 40
Violence [-\]: that's quite an insult
Novalys [2k\]: lol kyuss
Orc [4d\]: guo juan is only 38
meriteel: nobody cares about the game but the live stream
Violence [-\]: welcome to KGS, meriteel
Sheeple [3k\]: people care. it's just slow, lots to kibitz :)
Zahlman [1k\]: just l6 finally?
Violence [-\]: L6... then H5, I think
Uberdude [4d?\]: look like w is reading
Uberdude [4d?\]: more thanb
IGoofy [1d\]: a troll as referee ^^
bulldog [3k\]: admin
Zahlman [1k\]: I guess yanqi's drink is just water...
just9x9 [-\]: w aims at h5
Novalys [2k\]: 1960  --> date of birth of guo juan
tomash [3k\]: whats wrong with b l6?
Takimme [2k\]: h6 for b
Novalys [2k\]: yes zahlman, she refused to drink alcohol last time :p
Novalys [2k\]: I made chi min drink, but not yanqi xD
BenSenTen [?\]: b should just seal w from outside instead of l6, imo
tomash [3k\]: w h5?
Zahlman [1k\]: isn't she too young to drink? :P
Novalys [2k\]: She's 22
holynec [?\]: what country are we in zahlman ;)
Novalys [2k\]: she looks 15 though
madcow [1d\]: alcohol kills brain cells
Sheeple [3k\]: you can drink alcohol there at 16.
Zahlman [1k\]: I was going to say 14
edowaado [3k\]: you dont say
tsuchigumo [-\]: b cannot allow m4
Dogen [5k\]: she looks young, but she'd beat you on the beard
Dogen [5k\]: board
Novalys [2k\]: yeah me too, i was puzzled when she told me "22", i was like " are you kidding me ?"
Zahlman [1k\]: well, I look younger than my age too so :)
Violence [-\]: why not, tsuchi?
edowaado [3k\]: whay not what?
Violence [-\]: I can't see the sequence, care to share?
Novalys [2k\]: it's really complicated here : /
Novalys [2k\]: either w kills l4 or H3 ?
Zahlman [1k\]: I don't see why not just l6
Novalys [2k\]: l6 h5 
Novalys [2k\]: then w will have strength to escape
Novalys [2k\]: or kill the b
Zahlman [1k\]: b can tive up the j5 stone with k6 connected, though
Zahlman [1k\]: give*
Muscadet [?\]: w can sacrifice the l8 group, if he can live with sente at the bottom
Violence [-\]: I doubt it, Musca.
Zahlman [1k\]: l6 h5 g4, j4 doesn't make an eye
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;B[kn]C[Zahlman [1k\]: :D
Novalys [2k\]: no need for eye
tsuchigumo [-\]: doesn't w then get k2 in sente, and then h5 is a problem
Novalys [2k\]: after H5 white can F7 it seems
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;W[ho]C[Violence [-\]: well, let's see it then,
Novalys [2k\]: I trust yanqi \\\\o o//
BenSenTen [?\]: g4?
Novalys [2k\]:  G4 F7
Doby [6k\]: how  can they play with all those people walking around them constantly?
IGoofy [1d\]: shes already bored
Zahlman [1k\]: they are being quiet...
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;B[gp]C[royalty [4d\]: when you are playing you wont even notice the people around you
Zahlman [1k\]: see, just like I said
Akisame [8k\]: who is sche
Akisame [8k\]: she
Novalys [2k\]: Now F7 >_<
Zahlman [1k\]: igoofy, I don't think she's bored at all
tomash [3k\]: she looks kinda surprised?
madcow [1d\]: die u 1 eye!
Orc [4d\]: white can already escape from F7 now
tsuchigumo [-\]: did not expect g4
Sheeple [3k\]: fear of death, boredom, who can tell the difference.
tsuchigumo [-\]: I did not...
Novalys [2k\]: gogogo yanqi
Violence [-\]: g4 has to be only move there
Novalys [2k\]: sure, otherwise b dies lol
IGoofy [1d\]: 5d snack to start the tourney is nice
Zahlman [1k\]: g4 was obvious to me after actually reading :)
dupre [1k\]: life is still not sertain
Orc [4d\]: h9 h10 f9 g10 f7 , white escape
dupre [1k\]: certain
Novalys [2k\]: F7 F7 F
madcow [1d\]: kyus would G5 no doubt
Novalys [2k\]: no way i'd g5
Sheeple [3k\]: no, i'd play h9 long before
BenSenTen [?\]: i did sugeest g4
Zahlman [1k\]: igor has his next stone out on the table ready to play instead of in the bowl, hmm? o_O
Sheeple [3k\]: don't know why she saves it
tsuchigumo [-\]: surely w can take j5 then miai for sente eye at bottom or out with h9?
Zahlman [1k\]: sheeple, aji keshi maybe?
Novalys [2k\]: because it can remove aji necessary for  F7 :x
BenSenTen [?\]: seems w is losing the game
Novalys [2k\]: Zahlman is connected to my mind *-*
madcow [1d\]: if B gets j4 , B has quite some cash
Novalys [2k\]: j4 gote is not enough still
Zahlman [1k\]: j4 doesn't make an eye....
Novalys [2k\]: he talks about black
Novalys [2k\]: follow zahl ;)
madcow [1d\]: if B gets j4 and settles j10 , B definitely wins
kaly [2k\]: s6 only move :p
Novalys [2k\]: No way, w still will have more cash
Zahlman [1k\]: lol s6
Violence [-\]: mmm...
BenSenTen [?\]: w may die
Violence [-\]: the more I look at it
tomash [3k\]: w h9
Novalys [2k\]: F7
Violence [-\]: the more I think H9 is the only move
Violence [-\]: to get out
Onmyoji [2d\]: yes
Zahlman [1k\]: someone is whispering something :s
madcow [1d\]: H9 doesn't seem to work
Kunhikki [1d\]: why not
Orc [4d\]: white escape from H9, I think white is still leading, as blk has to make extra moves to kill K3 stones
TheBOrg [8k\]: G10
Orc [4d\]: K9 grp is not settled too
Zahlman [1k\]: k3 stones not so big?
gornuf [19k\]: whats the link to the live
plusguy [-\]: btw
Zahlman [1k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
yithril [2d\]: i thought f 7 but maybe it gets pwned
plusguy [-\]: is cho seuk bin participating in the tournament?
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;W[fm]C[silver2k4 [5d\]: yes
Novalys [2k\]: Yeah, perfect kibitz sequence for me
Novalys [2k\]: \\o/
Novalys [2k\]: Even if w dies, iscored perfect lol
Novalys [2k\]: i can die now
Sheeple [3k\]: if he is, he's not paired.
BenSenTen [?\]: e7?
Zahlman [1k\]: e7 too obvious
silver2k4 [5d\]: hwang inseong and rustysword are there too
tsuchigumo [-\]: out
Zahlman [1k\]: which one is rustysword?
madcow [1d\]: not out yet
madcow [1d\]: e7 
Sheeple [3k\]: oh chi-min
Novalys [2k\]: e7 f9 
madcow [1d\]: nice
Zahlman [1k\]: e7 f9 e8 h9 g10 h10 h11 ... hmm
Orc [4d\]: there is no tea in her glass...
Novalys [2k\]: it's called water orc
Novalys [2k\]: :p
madcow [1d\]: g7 ?
TheBOrg [8k\]: brown water?
madcow [1d\]: g7 ?
Altair [8k\]: yes why not g7
yithril [2d\]: white will give up the stone
yithril [2d\]: and counter atari
holynec [?\]: On rustyswords profiel: I, Chi Min Oh, declare. I will be the winner of the EGC 2009!
madcow [1d\]: ko
xpolyplus [4k\]: g7 h8 e7 h9 g10 h10 h11 j11 
xpolyplus [4k\]: if G7
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;B[gm]C[madcow [1d\]: yeah!
Novalys [2k\]: G7 looks worse than E7
madcow [1d\]: right
Novalys [2k\]: Now g6
madcow [1d\]: 5d plays it
madcow [1d\]: *beaming*
Novalys [2k\]: it doesn't mean it's better lol
holynec [?\]: madcow, you are strong
Orc [4d\]: white G6, white escape
holynec [?\]: i already said that -_-
madcow [1d\]: yeah
IGoofy [1d\]: what happen ?
madcow [1d\]: there is magik in G7
yithril [2d\]: man i can't sleep
yithril [2d\]: total insomnia
Violence [-\]: same here
tomash [3k\]: what happened?
Violence [-\]: G6 looks like it works
TheBOrg [8k\]: g6 is bad 
fractic [1k\]: taking a lunch break?
Violence [-\]: white will break out
yithril [2d\]: i was reading if black tries e7 though
yithril [2d\]: and then connects afterward
yithril [2d\]: to be stubborn
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: they will take a lunch break
Novalys [2k\]: noooo
amurumindu [7k\]: h10
Novalys [2k\]: not nice of them to eat :p
TheBOrg [8k\]: time for a big sandwich
Zahlman [1k\]: my cue to sleep I guess x.x
Doby [6k\]: whites clock button is up
TheBOrg [8k\]: resistance is futile
dupre [1k\]: yithril , where are you and what  is your local time?
Orc [4d\]: white can live if blk E7 
TheBOrg [8k\]: you must eat
yithril [2d\]: its 6:40 am here :)
dupre [1k\]: wow ;)))
Zahlman [1k\]: they are sealing the move?
tsuchigumo [-\]: well so much for everyone declaring b lost 50 moves ago
yithril [2d\]: a lot of americans are asleep still
TheBOrg [8k\]: 6am is great for an uismaier
yithril [2d\]: or just waking up
TheBOrg [8k\]: fried eggs with ham
Orc [4d\]: they stops playing?
TheBOrg [8k\]: sure
TheBOrg [8k\]: cant eat on the Goban
Novalys [2k\]: Go yanqi, seal the winning move \\o/
Novalys [2k\]: then go to eat
pilotea5: h8?
madcow [1d\]: B centre group is settled and gets j4 -> B WINS!!!
Doby [6k\]: i hope she gets the coordanite right
Novalys [2k\]: G6
Onmyoji [2d\]: but there are no coordinates on the board
Novalys [2k\]: but it's not enough madcow
Onmyoji [2d\]: :o
Zahlman [1k\]: doby I think they mark it on a kifu
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 20 minutes break
madcow [1d\]: *\\o/* Nem *\\o/* Nem *\\o/*
madcow [1d\]: *\\o/* Nem *\\o/* Nem *\\o/* 
IGoofy [1d\]: with such break they make it impossible to consider go as a sport at all
takanashi [7d\]: how  about turn camera on Burnel?
Novalys [2k\]: cornel burzo you mean ?
macisajt [7d\]: yes
takanashi [7d\]: yes
Doby [6k\]: what was that?  product placement?
Onmyoji [2d\]: burnel corzo
macisajt [7d\]: howabout
TheBOrg [8k\]: turn camera on the cheerleaders
Novalys [2k\]: :p
Zahlman [1k\]: they did stop the clock yes?
Dogen [5k\]: is this a lunch break?
takanashi [7d\]: especially if he wear so sexy t-shirt today :)
Zahlman [1k\]: yes dogen
macisajt [7d\]: na?
Dogen [5k\]: what time do they come back?
TheBOrg [8k\]: read above
Dogen [5k\]: oh, I see
Dogen [5k\]: sorry
IGoofy [1d\]: they never come back
Onmyoji [2d\]: is that guy eurogotv1`?
holynec [?\]: WHAT HAPPENED
holynec [?\]: lunch?
TheBOrg [8k\]: pay attention
gornuf [19k\]: yes lunch break
Orc [4d\]: only 20 mins? can they eat that fast?
TheBOrg [8k\]: i can eat a cow in 15 min
sfrex [2k\]: how long ve they play so far
takanashi [7d\]: who care how fast chinese can eat
takanashi [7d\]: show us cornel pls
TheBOrg [8k\]: shoe the pretty girls
sfrex [2k\]: what do u mean who care
Orc [4d\]: show us the main room plz
Katerchen [4k?\]: Just came in. how long ago was the 20 minutes break announced ? :)
BenSenTen [?\]: relax, s , japs care nothing but av
Doby [6k\]: how long until someone trips over that cord in the hallway?
OneLuck [2d\]: I can eat my dog in 20 minutes
holynec [?\]: Doby, start the counter!
madcow [1d\]: please, no more of eating animal jokes
holynec [?\]: looks like it has a lot of slack on it
OneLuck [2d\]: I can eat madcow in 20 minutes
drood [11k\]: getting nervous madcow  ? :P 
madcow [1d\]: *hiding*
drood [11k\]: sorry just had to
Katerchen [4k?\]: Beware ... an apple
madcow [1d\]: g6 only move next
Doby [6k\]: she cant stay away
IGoofy [1d\]: coaching
gdghgjd [1d\]: chimin is coaching..?^^
IGoofy [1d\]: yes
tealeaf [6k?\]: The man has a cool coat. I appreciate that.
IGoofy [1d\]: so he is the coatch
dongsaeng [3d\]: isnt it a bit too hot for a coat like that?
Akisame [8k\]: how is in-seong doing?
IGoofy [1d\]: thats really unfair
OneLuck [2d\]: so this was the summer? I did not do anything
edowaado [3k\]: the break is the best part
OneLuck [2d\]: who cares about this game?
Akisame [8k\]: isn't cho seok-bin there, he is registrated!
Orc [4d\]: why the 5d and 6d get to play top table, where is those 3p 1p?
Highwayman [1d\]: the first pairing is random
Uberdude [4d?\]: because they are all above the bar
Uberdude [4d?\]: all equal 
Orc [4d\]: ok, thought 3p plays first table, 1p 2nd
OneLuck [2d\]: why is not tien playing there?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Game continues at 13:00, which is now
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;W[hl]
;B[fk]
;W[gn]C[holynec [?\]: what did you eat for lunch eurotv
holynec [?\]: how come eurogotv2 ?!
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: I did not eat, I do board 2 :P
Akisame [8k\]: ^^
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;B[em]
;W[fn]
;B[ip]C[holynec [?\]: what happened to euro 1
NicolasXu [9d?\]: ok back
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: He just came back
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i made some video recording
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: He was filming
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;W[en]C[Novalys [2k\]: why did black J4 ?
IGoofy [1d\]: the spectators are headless
Violence [-\]: I think black wants sente
Violence [-\]: to handle his G9 group
yithril [2d\]: have to like k 13 or something now
arttle [3k\]: why J4??? it's incredible!!!
Novalys [2k\]: yeah :x
Violence [-\]: Because I don't think black can seal white in
Orc [4d\]: bad aji in at K3 stones
yithril [2d\]: doesn't have time for l3 though
Novalys [2k\]: w still wins
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Orc [4d\]: blk J4 at E6 still seems to be better, at least blk is thick overrall
pel [2k?\]: time?
Orc [4d\]: blk e6 j4 l3 h7 , blk has sente and all connected
holynec [?\]: how much time they got
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 2.5 hours each
Novalys [2k\]: now blac has to deal with the center
pel [2k?\]: b- 0:55(?) w 1:25(?)
Doby [6k\]: look at that ratty jacket!   who let him in?
Novalys [2k\]: And the problem is that he cannot let white have D15
Novalys [2k\]: w will probably win large
Akisame [8k\]: ^^
Akisame [8k\]: xD
Pesmerga [1k\]: Hallo jamt :)
Novalys [2k\]: not much point in the bottom compared to the w's corners
bobstep [4k?\]: may also be a threat to he group after k2 or j2
bobstep [4k?\]: h3 group
pel [2k?\]: you can see some digits on the clock - but it's a bit of guess-work
pel [2k?\]: lol
holynec [?\]: woah on that zoom in
holynec [?\]: !
dongsaeng [3d\]: wtf was that angle
holynec [?\]: oo i can see the time now
pel [2k?\]: 0:53 1:25
pel [2k?\]: thx eurogotv1!
holynec [?\]: that's roln isnt it
yypo [5d\]: trousers more interesting than clock, presumably
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, it was him
Novalys [2k\]: b resigns :p
holynec [?\]: that cord needs some tape or a mat over it
holynec [?\]: duct tape
tsuchigumo [-\]: I agree with orc, connection was way bigger than a few more points
Orc [4d\]: blk J4 is nearly losing move to me
Novalys [2k\]: For sure it was biggers
tsuchigumo [-\]: Agreed
Novalys [2k\]: now black cannot hope to make nice damage on top because he has to care about his group : /
Novalys [2k\]: A big loss
Novalys [2k\]: If he approaches D17, his center might suffer
tsuchigumo [-\]: b in trouble now, centre group weak means points for w at top and side
Novalys [2k\]: looks like a cool game for white :)
Katerchen [4k?\]: does q2 kill the white corner ?
Novalys [2k\]: Q2 R3
Orc [4d\]: when white get chance to play F3, blk really has to worry abot the aji left by the 3 stones
yypo [5d\]: in fact, w played quite ordinary moves all along. she's strong
LugPaj [2d\]: q2 r2 
Violence [-\]: I dunno
Novalys [2k\]: Ah yes R2 better T_t
Violence [-\]: I don't call O4 and Q5 combination ordinary...
Katerchen [4k?\]: Ah right, shortage of libersties for r3 after r2 ... still tend to oversee it when I calclulate in my mind
Novalys [2k\]: it seems there is no way for black to make correct game here : /
Orc [4d\]: white has obvious advantage in reading the game
BenSenTen [?\]: maybe it's w's only chance, w may lose if she can't beat b or make points at center
Novalys [2k\]: ben senten, w will have enough with the top and corners
Novalys [2k\]: Bottom is not that big
Novalys [2k\]: there's just a big bunch of b's stones 
Novalys [2k\]: ^^
Katerchen [4k?\]: is o8 fpr b worth it ?
BenSenTen [?\]: i never heard people would say that they have enough...
tsuchigumo [-\]: how to make shape in centre?
BenSenTen [?\]: u maybe a bot...
Novalys [2k\]: No, i'm just not afraid as soon as someone makes a "moy"o
Orc [4d\]: blk has to make some move to secure the center, but I can't find anywhere good
Novalys [2k\]: it is the thing that makes people lose many games, afraid of moyo and think they don't have enough
Uberdude [4d?\]: j12 ?
Uberdude [4d?\]: or k12
Novalys [2k\]: k12 risky with H10 cutting point ?
yypo [5d\]: nova: you're right. a moyo is at most 19 lines wide and 19 lines deep
BenSenTen [?\]: b just need to build a big house at upper , left n center n alive
yypo [5d\]: peanuts
Novalys [2k\]: lool yypo
Novalys [2k\]: I'm just saying that w is really ok in this game
yypo [5d\]: sure
yithril [2d\]: still thinking attack the 3 stones to defend center
Novalys [2k\]: not because black has some points in the bottom that it's over 
Uberdude [4d?\]: h10 cut is ladder
Novalys [2k\]: not at all
Uberdude [4d?\]: sure w ccn an peep the shape out
IGoofy [1d\]: can b let w l3 ?
tsuchigumo [-\]: i think b needs to be agrressive, j12 seems obvious nut leaves g11, maybe k12 or something
Novalys [2k\]: if w gets D15; i laugh at this bottom
tsuchigumo [-\]: but*
yithril [2d\]: k13 i thought
yithril [2d\]: shrug
yypo [5d\]: just w G2 is humongous endgame
Novalys [2k\]: P2 will be sente too
tsuchigumo [-\]: or tenuki if no good move, grab)destroy some points and play for shinogi
Novalys [2k\]: bottom is  poor
Novalys [2k\]: black captured 3 stones in gote instead of connecting : /
LeDonc [1k\]: l3 honte
BenSenTen [?\]: w's bottom is poor??
Novalys [2k\]: b's
Yasguri [-\]: usualy the shape is f2 not G2
YukiStone [3k\]: L14?
Orc [4d\]: white play 12G later is vey annoying for blk
holynec [?\]: alright going to sleep, peae
BenSenTen [?\]: go is good training to make others annoyed...
Novalys [2k\]: black will enter byo yomi if it keeps going on like this :x
nay4ok [1d?\]: this game is soo exciting! Zzzzz.....
Yasguri [-\]: lol
Akisame [8k\]: k17 
Doby [6k\]: invade at top
Akisame [8k\]: or k16
IGoofy [1d\]: eurogo died meanwhile
Akisame [8k\]: xD
pel [2k?\]: :)
Novalys [2k\]: if invades top now, center will suffer pretty much : / vicious circle for b
Novalys [2k\]: he needs both :p
tomash [3k\]: maybe he doesnt know its his move? :P
Novalys [2k\]: lol that would be funny
Novalys [2k\]: the guy loses "oh : /"
yypo [5d\]: ah, b K17. muuuuch too close to w thickness
Doby [6k\]: is that j17?
IGoofy [1d\]: yes
tomash [3k\]: ahh he played
mishik [6k\]: How much time do they have?
mishik [6k\]: left
Novalys [2k\]: he played K16 no ?
IGoofy [1d\]: 17
Uberdude [4d?\]: k16 loo
mishik [6k\]: k17
IGoofy [1d\]: j
Doby [6k\]: b j17
tomash [3k\]: j16
Novalys [2k\]: so close to thickness o_O
mishik [6k\]: Thx for time ;)
tomash [3k\]: j17
Akisame [8k\]: 0:41  1:22
Novalys [2k\]: thanks for the zoom eurogo :)
Novalys [2k\]: Nice guy ^^
Akisame [8k\]: 0:41 b   
LeDonc [1k\]: k16 would be pointless
yypo [5d\]: well, evidently w is not going to L17
Orc [4d\]: is that the time left or time used?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: left
lukasz [5k\]: eveyone is walking there
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;W[ie]C[Doby [6k\]: yes, they are playing in a train station
IGoofy [1d\]: pretending to be busy
yypo [5d\]: okay, J15
LugPaj [2d\]: all the guys making pics of that girl...
yithril [2d\]: lol
yithril [2d\]: awesome
yithril [2d\]: even more interesting
Novalys [2k\]: capping move looks alright when plays too close to thickness
Novalys [2k\]: center is crying for black now 
Orc [4d\]: lol they play so fast
tomash [3k\]: lol it's a kitchen
Doby [6k\]: camera moved to board 2!
Orc [4d\]: the other guy is holdint a fan like a pro :P
yypo [5d\]: mmm. w could have considered G17, b J15, w J12 for splitting attack
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;B[fc]C[Archy [2k\]: how much time did they have at start?
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;W[de]C[fractic [1k\]: 2.5 hours
Archy [2k\]: ok? thx
fractic [1k\]: they get 1 minute byoyomi
fractic [1k\]: don't konw how many periods
yypo [5d\]: now w K18 is severe...
Novalys [2k\]: W g17 lets black runs out too easily yypo
tomash [3k\]: hehe it brakes the ladder too doesnt it?
yypo [5d\]: nova: read my sequence ^^
Novalys [2k\]: but j12 is ok with l11 lacking libs ?
IGoofy [1d\]: b can resign here
lukasz [5k\]: so as w
tsuchigumo [-\]: j13?
Akisame [8k\]: cant he play c16?
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;B[lc]C[BenSenTen [?\]: would d15 better than j17 for b??
fractic [1k\]: and create 3 weak groups?
Onmyoji [2d\]: k17 
YukiStone [3k\]: trying to settle top fast but f8 group is going to hurt bad if white starts the attack
BenSenTen [?\]: oh, b has his own plan
yypo [5d\]: M17, the fighting move. however, b J17 group remains thin
tsuchigumo [-\]: seems a little ambitious
Novalys [2k\]: game over soon :)
yypo [5d\]: well, i think playing on upper side is correct. b has to gamble
IGoofy [1d\]: how is m17 a fighting move ??
YukiStone [3k\]: f11?
LugPaj [2d\]: i heart this already before an hour
BenSenTen [?\]: maybe b plan to take the upper side n try to alive at center
Novalys [2k\]: yes sure ^^
Novalys [2k\]: From E6 the game is done :/
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;W[gi]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: ouch
IGoofy [1d\]: game over
BenSenTen [?\]: nice move
IGoofy [1d\]: insert coin
BenSenTen [?\]: n has all b stones?
Novalys [2k\]: as we all said, if b takes top, center cries : /
mishik [6k\]: Oh nooo
tsuchigumo [-\]: Like a next move problem position
BenSenTen [?\]: then b should d15?
yypo [5d\]: except, there is no next move ^^
mishik [6k\]: d15?
BenSenTen [?\]: instead of j17
mishik [6k\]: The one that is taken?
mishik [6k\]: aah
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;B[jh]C[BenSenTen [?\]: b must has thought about the center group, maybe he has a way to be alive
yypo [5d\]: b can only gamble his group will live
BenSenTen [?\]: j15 , g11 thin, b alive if connected
YukiStone [3k\]: time to lean on top and kill center
BenSenTen [?\]: it's fat vs thin game
BenSenTen [?\]: or wellbuilt vs thin game
jkarta [5k\]: g11 to close to b group i think b will connect to top group
Kolim [2d\]: j13
yypo [5d\]: w is contemplating the cut at H9
YukiStone [3k\]: if j13 maybe m13
Doby [6k\]: would b have to answer w n11?
tomash [3k\]: she did indeed play there yypo
BenSenTen [?\]: h9? how about h10?
jkarta [5k\]: m11 group quit weak
yypo [5d\]: H10 is weak on liberties
Gazpacho [1d\]: She played h9 I think 
tomash [3k\]: h9 is on board :)
Muscadet [?\]: over
IGoofy [1d\]: sure
bobstep [4k?\]: m11 not that weak since n11 is sente for w
BenSenTen [?\]: b res?
yypo [5d\]: at this stage, the fate of M11 is not really relevant
BenSenTen [?\]: but i m sure b will play better than we think
Doby [6k\]: i guess 70 points on the left side would be enough for w to win
tsuchigumo [-\]: b paying rather feebly now, dispirited
Orc [4d\]: white J15 looks risky
BenSenTen [?\]: b will have left or right
IGoofy [1d\]: now she knows why europeans have to hide in kitchens to play go
Gazpacho [1d\]: Now k15 played 
Gazpacho [1d\]: EuroGoTV, wake up 
]
;W[hk]C[fractic [1k\]: K14 by white
]
;B[je]
;W[jf]
;B[ke]C[pel [2k?\]: too much beer for eurogotv last night? :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i really fell asleep
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: poker
pel [2k?\]: same same - but different ;)
plusguy [-\]: how much time they have left?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: got 4th in HORSE tournament on pokersteras
Orc [4d\]: when blk play 18O later, white will have a real headache
pel [2k?\]: congrats
]
;W[kf]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: playing with horses?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no
Orc [4d\]: euroGo I was just bubbled on pokerstar...
]
;B[lf]C[royalty [4d\]: what did bubbled mean
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: http://officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/HW9x9/poker/results/6162FBF2DD4147C18470FA38C14A362B.html?t=2
]
;W[le]C[YukiStone [3k\]: m15
Orc [4d\]: bubble means u lost by 0.5 point and lose the whole game
royalty [4d\]: poker or go?
tsuchigumo [-\]: l17 threat
fractic [1k\]: i guess he ment poker
Orc [4d\]: poker
IGoofy [1d\]: pokemon
fractic [1k\]: i thought it means the last player to drop out before the prizes
Orc [4d\]: means u nearly win big money but end up wining nothing
Orc [4d\]: like 9 people get paid but ur 10th
royalty [4d\]: if everyone played poker there wouldn't be any poor people out there
AURELIE46 [3d\]: ^^
BenSenTen [?\]: just don't know what to do now if i were b
bobstep [4k?\]: cornel lost
IGoofy [1d\]: no wonder
IGoofy [1d\]: with that shirt
]
;B[jc]C[Orc [4d\]: blk is forcing white to kill central grps
]
;W[mg]C[plusguy [-\]: this game advances really slowly compared to the other once
Javaness [2d\]: black seems broken
Doby [6k\]: time for b to invade the left side
IGoofy [1d\]: time to look for a new hobby
Mediumdave [9k\]: invade?
Mediumdave [9k\]: what about black's middle?
LeDonc [1k\]: already dead
]
;B[kg]C[Javaness [2d\]: is not dead yet
BrYanwithY [5k\]: Is that a juice bottle....
yypo [5d\]:  ah. w can K13
Brunswiek [11k\]: water
BrYanwithY [5k\]: child safe water
Javaness [2d\]: I see the top boards don't have to use those terrible Ing Timers
matjet [1k\]: what terrible ing timers?
BrYanwithY [5k\]: Why does ING have to ruin everyone's lives
matjet [1k\]: there is another type?
DasPoko [22k?\]: well if white playes k13 i think black is gonna hurt
pel [2k?\]: <3 ing clocks
yypo [5d\]: hi, my name is Mee, i'm 13 years old and i beat the sh!t out of you
Javaness [2d\]: language
BrYanwithY [5k\]: nice to meet you
Brunswiek [11k\]: j13
nay4ok [1d?\]: who's wispering what?
leachy [13k\]: so you mean m13 yypo
Orc [4d\]: thats not language of 13 yo
LeDonc [1k\]: it is
yypo [5d\]: oops, java, your filter is smarter than i thought
Onmyoji [2d\]: ok who win=?
LeDonc [1k\]: brown
Ipexander [12k\]: grey
BrYanwithY [5k\]: white
Brunswiek [11k\]: darkf force
]
;W[jg]C[Longshi [-\]: darth vader
]
;B[kh]C[vdust [2k\]: The one who won't lose.
]
;W[lg]C[BetterDays [8k\]: is this match actually on kgs or someone is duplicating this match from a live place
Exar [1d\]: live
just9x9 [-\]: how is the player's time?
BetterDays [8k\]: oh i see
YukiStone [3k\]: any way to get it later on?
Brunswiek [11k\]: betterdazs, see info of eurogotv1
]
;B[hh]C[BrYanwithY [5k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Edelweiss [-\]: EGC playing on kgs :s
BetterDays [8k\]: thanks
Edelweiss [-\]: very good idea :)
Ukasuhs [1k\]: its a duplication
pel [2k?\]: think black has 23 min left
BetterDays [8k\]: :)
just9x9 [-\]: user eurogotv1 wil have the game yuki
Brunswiek [11k\]: and white 70 minutes
pel [2k?\]: can't really tell whites time - but 1 hr and then some
pel [2k?\]: 1:10
BrYanwithY [5k\]: and for those who don't know.....It's a girl!  They do exist...
pel [2k?\]: thx eurogotv :)
Exar [1d\]: who won in mcfadyen's game yesterday?  couldn't find anywhere with the result
Yasguri [-\]: n11 ?
Edelweiss [-\]: maybe one day : kgs go congress :p
huffle [1d\]: mathew won
Exar [1d\]: k thanks
just9x9 [-\]: macfadyen won
pel [2k?\]: must have been mafadyen
pel [2k?\]: oh
Akisame [8k\]: w 0:23  b 1:04
Exar [1d\]: where are the results on the web?
yypo [5d\]: a girl? is that the reason she leaves the board ve
yypo [5d\]: eery 5 minutes?
just9x9 [-\]: see under user liyue
yypo [5d\]: every*
]
;W[lh]C[izuviel [-\]: yeah to powder her nose
BrYanwithY [5k\]: Is that liyue?
Gonzalate [2d\]: no
just9x9 [-\]: liyue commented on macfadyen yesterday
BrYanwithY [5k\]: ah
Exar [1d\]: there must be some official website with results for those kinds of games though?
fractic [1k\]: egc2009.nl
fractic [1k\]: but the results aren't posted yet
Exar [1d\]: thanks
Katerchen [4k?\]: sente because o 10 ?
fractic [1k\]: the whole pairing is though
Doby [6k\]: Hampshire Hotel.  Groningen,  Netherlands.  can't find the room number
PlumeMoi [-\]: j14
just9x9 [-\]: that wasnt the link for the british championship though exar ;)
BrYanwithY [5k\]: o10 n8 ....???......profit
qgo [4k\]: H10
PlumeMoi [-\]: e11 may be
just9x9 [-\]: squeeze now
sfrex [2k\]: w gonna win
Exar [1d\]: yeah i checked britgo.org but they don't seem to have anything resembling up to date news
siulongbao [7k\]: blacks shape is not very good
Orc [4d\]: the other 2 games all finished?
Doby [6k\]: w developing so many threats
]
;B[ig]
;W[if]C[BrYanwithY [5k\]: white is leaving every five minutes because she's bored
]
;B[hj]C[Bomber [5k\]: yeah, b is getting pzownt
siulongbao [7k\]: how much time ?
just9x9 [-\]: boredom is the first step to defeat
siulongbao [7k\]: and wa happened to the toehr games ?
]
;W[ji]C[leachy [13k\]: pzownt????
]
;B[ih]C[Edelweiss [-\]: pwnd
IGoofy [1d\]: its uberpwned
]
;W[gf]C[BrYanwithY [5k\]: You don't win games when you're bored?
royalty [4d\]: heh, knew it
Doby [6k\]: pzownt is a technical term
Edelweiss [-\]: W wants to kill everything :s
Bomber [5k\]: it's a word you only hear in specialized WOW circles
royalty [4d\]: why not?
tsuchigumo [-\]: this is horiible but instructive to watch
gdghgjd [1d\]: is this first board at the moment?
qgo [4k\]: E12
]
;B[fg]C[just9x9 [-\]: u get bored when u are overconfident to win and then u dont pay attention anymore
royalty [4d\]: e11
]
;W[ff]C[IGoofy [1d\]: u get board when the sense of your doing is gone
Doby [6k\]: yes, w is so patient.  in no hurry to win
royalty [4d\]: u get engrish when the sense of your doing is gone
Orc [4d\]: I dont understand M12, M12 at G12 seems to be easy win
just9x9 [-\]: first u get bored, then angry, then u want to pawn the opponent then u overplay then u loose
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
Dreamland [3k?\]: without m12, black can cut and get 3 stones ?
pel [2k?\]: or you play it safe and accidently gives the game away
IGoofy [1d\]: b represents the power of european go
]
;B[ei]C[Orc [4d\]: but thats 3 stones r small
Orc [4d\]: white gets the whole lleft and win big
Dreamland [3k?\]: the black group would then be safe after this capture ?
minismurf [-\]: back after lunch, or no break in this game?
siulongbao [7k\]: c12 
siulongbao [7k\]: for hwite
Dreamland [3k?\]: He just wants to kill imho
PlumeMoi [-\]: e13
lukasz [5k\]: whats b plan?
PlumeMoi [-\]: win
BrYanwithY [5k\]: not die
just9x9 [-\]: hard to kill this i'd say
Orc [4d\]: if white cant kill now, white might be behind in territory
YukiStone [3k\]: e10
BrYanwithY [5k\]: I can tell you what black is thinking
BrYanwithY [5k\]: "she's attractive"
BenSenTen [?\]: date w after game finished
just9x9 [-\]: lemme live lemme live lemme live?
IGoofy [1d\]: b plans to survive and lose by 50 moku
jayjolin [1k\]: A__A
PlumeMoi [-\]: B__B
tsuchigumo [-\]: I agree somewhat with orc, I thought f14 wrong
Orc [4d\]: is blk old enough to date?
lukasz [5k\]: if he thinks shes attractive he should play better
BrYanwithY [5k\]: he can't really concentrate on the game, I don't blame him
PlumeMoi [-\]: video link plz
drood [11k\]: lol
]
;W[eg]C[BrYanwithY [5k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
tsuchigumo [-\]: I'd have played e11 myself
BrYanwithY [5k\]: (I actually haven't seen anything other than the side of her head.....I'm on this screen most of the time)
minismurf [-\]: no more such comments about players please, show some respect
jayjolin [1k\]: even i can't concentrate: )
BenSenTen [?\]: :)
siulongbao [7k\]: lol
tsuchigumo [-\]: But I think w has enough points anyway
DasPoko [22k?\]: lol he is distracted
IGoofy [1d\]: maybe b is new at go
jayjolin [1k\]: d9 important for white to kill
BetterDays [8k\]: theres no play back on this thingymabob?! : ( 
BetterDays [8k\]: : (
pel [2k?\]: view offline
Novalys [2k\]: poor black : /
BetterDays [8k\]: oh
pel [2k?\]: then you can go back
BrYanwithY [5k\]: clone game
YukiStone [3k\]: options clone game
BetterDays [8k\]: such generous ppl :)
PlumeMoi [-\]: PlumeMoi [-\]: e13
]
;B[ck]C[jayjolin [1k\]: wow
siulongbao [7k\]: c12  !!!~
Novalys [2k\]: just C12 and secure cash in sente ? i doubt yanqi will do this though, she's pretty violent ^^
epost [1k?\]: looks like w is ahead
Novalys [2k\]: w has been ahead for hours 
jayjolin [1k\]: f12 first?
Dreamland [3k?\]: he seems worried
BrYanwithY [5k\]: that's why she's bored
PlumeMoi [-\]: b11
IGoofy [1d\]: why didnt b took some handi stones ?
Orc [4d\]: she is not bored, but anxious to win the game
Novalys [2k\]: lol
yypo [5d\]: mmm. allowing w to extract G11 seems highly dangeous
tsuchigumo [-\]: yes
Novalys [2k\]: C12 safe win ^^
tsuchigumo [-\]: f12 
BrYanwithY [5k\]: I think all these games are even, Igoofy....that's how tournaments go :)
]
;W[fh]C[jayjolin [1k\]: : )
royalty [4d\]: and c12 or something
]
;B[gj]C[BenSenTen [?\]: g10?
BrYanwithY [5k\]: Go is so hard.....
]
;W[el]C[mishik [6k\]: and boring :)
royalty [4d\]: huh, e8, really?
KgsGo [3k\]: :)
epost [1k?\]: no, go is easy and fun!
Novalys [2k\]: Sente cash
Novalys [2k\]: cool
BenSenTen [?\]: b will live
yypo [5d\]: E8, really
Onmyoji [2d\]: :|
Novalys [2k\]: doesn't matter if black lives
Novalys [2k\]: he'll live pitifully
Dreamland [3k?\]: kinda hard to even live here
royalty [4d\]: not at all
minismurf [-\]: looks more natural to strengthen upper right to me
royalty [4d\]: e9 e9 d8 f11 g12 c12 for example
dado [1k\]: b c12 lives
Dreamland [3k?\]: will extend to c12 then
royalty [4d\]: white c11 seemed bigger
Albast [9k\]: so far black does not have 2 eyes yet
Novalys [2k\]: C12 played
]
;B[ch]C[Mukti [4d\]: w just playing safe, amassing points and extending her lead
Novalys [2k\]: C13
sfrex [2k\]: 不死也重伤
dado [1k\]: w b 10 if he wants to kill
Mukti [4d\]: w has O10 later 
Ukasuhs [1k\]: c13 b13 looks almost too east for w
tomash [3k\]: yeah I agree sfrex :P
Novalys [2k\]: B10 is risky for nothing
Ukasuhs [1k\]: easy*
Novalys [2k\]: Let black live in gote is far more funny 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: when will white play f2?
Novalys [2k\]: Torture is great
BenSenTen [?\]: would w has enough points to win??
jayjolin [1k\]: w has four conners....
Novalys [2k\]: for sure
Novalys [2k\]: W has so many points ^^
BrYanwithY [5k\]: probably
]
;W[ek]C[Mukti [4d\]: yes, even if this lives w is way ahead
Novalys [2k\]: nobody ate a stone so far
tsuchigumo [-\]: c14
IGoofy [1d\]: the end is near
leachy [13k\]: black strategy: bore white to death
]
;B[ej]C[Javaness [2d\]: please eat some stones
Novalys [2k\]: At least one
Ukasuhs [1k\]: now b has c8
yypo [5d\]: w B13
Novalys [2k\]: otherwise java will make a heart attack
]
;W[bg]C[Orc [4d\]: white G2, H2, E3 is sente
Earnest [2k\]: is a struggle to live here and then B is still 20 points down
gdghgjd [1d\]: what about the time?
KgsGo [3k\]: :à
jayjolin [1k\]: lol
Novalys [2k\]: *gives some stones to his squirrel
dado [1k\]: b d9
dado [1k\]: atari
minismurf [-\]: can you give your count please, how do you get 20?
Onmyoji [2d\]: i count w 032.5
PlumeMoi [-\]: easy life
Onmyoji [2d\]: w+32.5
Novalys [2k\]: i count black should've resigned after E6
Gigot [5k\]: painful life
YukiStone [3k\]: c8
jayjolin [1k\]: better then be killed 0.0
dado [1k\]: c8 is ok
BrYanwithY [5k\]: being somewhat generous, I got it to w+8.5
Javaness [2d\]: Will Eurogotv only show the Main Tournament ?
]
;B[bh]C[BrYanwithY [5k\]: how many tournaments are there?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: we will see, there is not somuch budget for EuroGoTV
dado [1k\]: w b8
]
;W[bl]C[fractic [1k\]: check the schedule at egc2009.nl
BigPlunder [3k\]: will eurotv give us some dinerstein commets?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: c8
Ukasuhs [1k\]: then b9
tsuchigumo [-\]: No please, no more hamete
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: also no budget for EuroGoTV
dado [1k\]: b b9
yypo [5d\]: w B8 is no good.
Javaness [2d\]: Well I am glad to see the Main tournament
BenSenTen [?\]: w thinks it's still killable
Ukasuhs [1k\]: c8 is sente
siulongbao [7k\]: black res ?
dupre [1k\]: if B can play at o7, B still has a chance
Novalys [2k\]: cool size of the bottom left corner *-*
BrYanwithY [5k\]: What does the winner of the main tournament get?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: pls all write to the organisation for asking more EuroGoTV broadcasts
Onmyoji [2d\]: fame
Novalys [2k\]: he gets a cookie
Orc [4d\]: white wants to kill...
]
;B[bk]C[Javaness [2d\]: wow a cookie
Katerchen [4k?\]: b d7 ?
dado [1k\]: o 7 big move
Novalys [2k\]: C13
]
;W[dm]C[Novalys [2k\]: oh
Pylon [2k\]: time?
Novalys [2k\]: ah yes otherwise C8 works
Albast [9k\]: that was big
PlumeMoi [-\]: i want his glasses!
BrYanwithY [5k\]: glasses?
tsuchigumo [-\]: I like w's approach to finishing b off
Orc [4d\]: blk can be greedy and play 14B, invade before make eyes
BenSenTen [?\]: w is fast n confident
mishik [6k\]: o7?
Orc [4d\]: blk b14 c13 c14 d13 a13 b16 d9 , seems to live
dado [1k\]: b c13?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://EuroGoTV.com
tibali [3d\]: is w a little bit ahead now?
Onmyoji [2d\]: TANUKI?
]
;B[df]C[jayjolin [1k\]: lol
]
;W[cf]
;B[cg]
;W[bf]C[dado [1k\]: w b14
Orc [4d\]: white needs to get G2 sente to lead
Dreamland [3k?\]: bad, he's eating his nails
dado [1k\]: b e 15
]
;B[gg]C[dado [1k\]: b d 13
tsuchigumo [-\]: Where you from Orc, we think alike.
BenSenTen [?\]: singapore, orchid road
]
;W[gd]C[dado [1k\]: w e 12
Brunswiek [11k\]: you live at the equator!?
tsuchigumo [-\]: You have an agent to handle questions?
dado [1k\]: b e 18
dado [1k\]: ?
Novalys [2k\]: b resigned ?
dupre [1k\]: yes
]
;B[fd]C[Earnest [2k\]: g16 is good
jayjolin [1k\]: ...
Novalys [2k\]: Ah no
]
;W[fe]C[dado [1k\]: b e 18
Novalys [2k\]: w will get O2 woot
Novalys [2k\]: n18 pretty big too
royalty [4d\]: o2?
]
;B[dg]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: n18 double sente
jayjolin [1k\]: lol
Novalys [2k\]: o2 has N2 follow up
Brunswiek [11k\]: squeeeeeee..**..++..+ak
]
;W[ef]C[royalty [4d\]: o2 hurts the corner pretty damn much
royalty [4d\]: you have to be quite sure to play it
Novalys [2k\]: oh sorry
Novalys [2k\]: i meant p2
Javaness [2d\]: the door seems to be very squeaky
Novalys [2k\]: excuse me
Novalys [2k\]: I meant p2 has N2 follow up
]
;B[cd]C[jayjolin [1k\]: lol
Novalys [2k\]: i'm still great at reading coordinates T_T
dado [1k\]: w d16
Mukti [4d\]: b getting very unreasonable now
Gigot [5k\]: misclick?
dupre [1k\]: kamikaze mode
Novalys [2k\]: he can only try :p
Onmyoji [2d\]: d16 
tsuchigumo [-\]: order for yose  g2, p2 n18 imo
Dreamland [3k?\]: Novalys, try ctrl + click on coordinate
minismurf [-\]: it is a kind of kikashi though
dado [1k\]: b must play e 18
]
;W[dd]C[minismurf [-\]: even though it may not gain anything
BrYanwithY [5k\]: lol at "misclick" :)
BrYanwithY [5k\]: This is a real game, Gigot
Novalys [2k\]: which is why it's funny
jayjolin [1k\]: XD
dado [1k\]: b e 12 to get alive?
tsuchigumo [-\]: b wants a13 in sente
tiine [8k\]: XDD
Novalys [2k\]: b already alive
Ipexander [12k\]: how to make misclick real coban?
YukiStone [3k\]: e12 g17 miai?
Onmyoji [2d\]: drop stone
Novalys [2k\]: J-O-K-E ipexander
Ipexander [12k\]: :)
drood [11k\]: its still one person that clicks on computer, 
Mem0r3x [1k\]: Wanting d18?
Novalys [2k\]: black should count
Novalys [2k\]: "oh, i have nothing  : /"
YukiStone [3k\]: he looks too tired to count
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, i am a programm
PlumeMoi [-\]: o18
Gonzalate [2d\]: and you should focus on the game
Novalys [2k\]: I answered to ipexander gonazalate
Novalys [2k\]: ^^
Novalys [2k\]: just before i was talking yose
Gonzalate [2d\]: :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
Novalys [2k\]: i want w to get p2
Ipexander [12k\]: dropping stone is possible
lavi123 [-\]: time?
]
;B[eh]C[Novalys [2k\]: it's humiliating win at this lvl 
tsuchigumo [-\]: sensible
]
;W[gc]C[dado [1k\]: so b was no alive?
Onmyoji [2d\]: its over
]
;B[nb]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: game over
dado [1k\]: him...????
Choukos [5k\]: is black really losing that bad ?
Novalys [2k\]: ye
Novalys [2k\]: yes*
]
;W[ob]
;B[nc]
;W[oc]C[Brunswiek [11k\]: at least he will not resign after counting
dado [1k\]: b o7 now
Novalys [2k\]: it's because they don't have SE brunswiek
tomash [3k\]: b e3?
Onmyoji [2d\]: w has many nice sente  moves
Novalys [2k\]: Q2
dado [1k\]: or b p2
tsuchigumo [-\]: o7 smaller than opther plays
Onmyoji [2d\]: need to live
]
;B[cc]C[jayjolin [1k\]: lol
Gigot [5k\]: I thought black is still ok
PlumeMoi [-\]: w to kill
Mukti [4d\]: b has switched to streetfighter's mode now
Novalys [2k\]: Hane
PlumeMoi [-\]: fix
dupre [1k\]: wow
IGoofy [1d\]: kyu fist style
dado [1k\]: w c15
Gigot [5k\]: time move ?
Orc [4d\]: white can C18
Novalys [2k\]: C18 yes
Ipexander [12k\]: hopeles try
Brunswiek [11k\]: if not hane, he gets B14, huh?
Novalys [2k\]: even C15 looks ok
]
;W[hb]C[Javaness [2d\]: black has E18 chance if white played C18
dado [1k\]: better....
Ipexander [12k\]: couter
BrYanwithY [5k\]: haha
Novalys [2k\]: lol tenuki painful
jayjolin [1k\]: lol
atman [?\]: which style exactly? Ryu? Honda?
Javaness [2d\]: smart white
vingol [1d\]: offering furikawari
Gigot [5k\]: furikawari
dado [1k\]: ya smart w
Novalys [2k\]: the top looks bigger
epost [1k?\]: furikawari
Novalys [2k\]: than just getting C13
]
;B[ce]
;W[cb]C[PlumeMoi [-\]: furikawary mean?
dado [1k\]: furikawari?
]
;B[bb]C[badooking [3d\]: b dead all
jayjolin [1k\]: lol
Ipexander [12k\]: players in kgs?
]
;W[db]
;B[ib]C[Javaness [2d\]: fun!
epost [1k?\]: furikawari?
jayjolin [1k\]: ?
BrYanwithY [5k\]: that doesn't seem like it was so smart after all....
AhSayuni [4d\]: :o
Novalys [2k\]: well B15
Mukti [4d\]: so inconsistent...
tsuchigumo [-\]: "do you feel lucky punk" say w
Olmerek [9k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?Furikawari
BrYanwithY [5k\]: see....that's what happens when you get bored
Novalys [2k\]: B15 forced now ?
epost [1k?\]: furikawari!!
]
;W[kd]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: w still in the pink
Brunswiek [11k\]: b to live
]
;B[mc]C[Mukti [4d\]: oh, come on....
jayjolin [1k\]: 0.0
]
;W[kb]C[Albast [9k\]: l18 
]
;B[kc]
;W[lb]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: LOL
Brunswiek [11k\]: KIIIILLL
dado [1k\]: b resign
IGoofy [1d\]: man
]
;B[ia]C[Mukti [4d\]: this is just insulting, b is acting like he's giving 9 handi
Javaness [2d\]: DO NOT WANTS
Novalys [2k\]: i want to see b's face
Onmyoji [2d\]: do want
Novalys [2k\]: video not working
Ukasuhs [1k\]: lol this is oe weird looking seki
YukiStone [3k\]: he looks stressed
Ukasuhs [1k\]: one*
Gonzalate [2d\]: ça va il est cool
BrYanwithY [5k\]: It's working for me
Gigot [5k\]: dead
lonely [1d\]: no seki
Javaness [2d\]: the video works fine
elligain [10k\]: ^^
Albast [9k\]: works for me too
dado [1k\]: seki
jayjolin [1k\]: b'face->囧
Brunswiek [11k\]: epic
Novalys [2k\]: b15
Ukasuhs [1k\]: its definitely not dead...
Ukasuhs [1k\]: look at the shape
royalty [4d\]: only a little dead
dado [1k\]: seki?
Brunswiek [11k\]: look at her face, trying to look humble
jerno [3d\]: white had to make the two hane first before M18
IGoofy [1d\]: dead like a bread
lonely [1d\]: dead
Onmyoji [2d\]: o19 
Javaness [2d\]: Novalys, black is jumping up and down on his sit screaming
badooking [3d\]: dead
Ukasuhs [1k\]: w has to o19 and then its ko
]
;W[na]
;B[ma]C[Mukti [4d\]: it looks utterlu dead to me after O19...
Javaness [2d\]: White is sitting there quietly
Novalys [2k\]: loool java
yypo [5d\]: ko
tsuchigumo [-\]: w has a16?
Novalys [2k\]: M19
Gigot [5k\]: ko?
yypo [5d\]: b L19
Orc [4d\]: white connect, blk dead
Ukasuhs [1k\]: nvm just alive
Ukasuhs [1k\]: p19 l19 then what?
Novalys [2k\]: time ? how much they have ?
Tabemasu [7d\]: m19 kills right?
Brunswiek [11k\]: last move
Gigot [5k\]: m19
badooking [3d\]: seki
Archy [2k\]: ko mAYBE
Ukasuhs [1k\]: b alive
jerno [3d\]: seems seki
Ukasuhs [1k\]: no ko
jerno [3d\]: white failed
Brunswiek [11k\]: jishinnn
Ukasuhs [1k\]: i guess w l19 is seki
dado [1k\]: now b is dead
Mukti [4d\]: seems dead to me...
KWhite [9k\]: how is that alive? o.O
Javaness [2d\]: black is rubbing his chin, wishing he had a huge beard
badooking [3d\]: seki
Gigot [5k\]: m19 kills unconditionally
yypo [5d\]: ah ok ^^
Mukti [4d\]: p19 and b seems dead to me
Novalys [2k\]: "w failed"... yes she still leads +9000 
royalty [4d\]: listen to gigot
epost [1k?\]: b dead?
Oogway [2k\]: ok to summarize: black is dead, black is alive, it is ko and it is seki
YukiStone [3k\]: m19 m19 k18 n18 l19 
Ukasuhs [1k\]: m19 p19 is seki
tsuchigumo [-\]: dead
Momogo [3d\]: p19 L19
royalty [4d\]: m19 p19 is not seki
yypo [5d\]: w M19, b L19: KO!
Mukti [4d\]: l19 does not make seki, just dead
kidbuu: ko?
royalty [4d\]: yypo, except it's not
Gigot [5k\]: m19 p19 k&ç
Javaness [2d\]: Honte!
Gigot [5k\]: k19
BrYanwithY [5k\]: this whole sm19 p19 l19 dead shape
royalty [4d\]: m19 kills
lonely [1d\]: ya
tildebis [?\]: m19 L19
Albast [9k\]: white is trying to read if she needs to kill :-)
]
;W[la]C[Novalys [2k\]: It's not dead shape as long as they have shared liberties
Onmyoji [2d\]: deaad
Ukasuhs [1k\]: m19 l19 is at least ko
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: dead
IGoofy [1d\]: no ko
lonely [1d\]: dead
Orc [4d\]: dead
ben0 [5d\]: l19
yypo [5d\]: yeah allright.
Tabemasu [7d\]: l19 k19
KWhite [9k\]: why not just P19? o.O
epost [1k?\]: dead!!!
Ukasuhs [1k\]: l19... is at least ko
Orc [4d\]: no ko, nothing, dead
BenSenTen [?\]: n rest
tsuchigumo [-\]: lol
PlumeMoi [-\]: ko
tsuchigumo [-\]: KGS dans
donzet [?\]: ko
Onmyoji [2d\]: no ko
PlumeMoi [-\]: ko
dado [1k\]: now after b capture is seki
royalty [4d\]: it's dead guys
tomash [3k\]: no ko, dead five inside
Ukasuhs [1k\]: ok how can w kill without ko if l19
Ukasuhs [1k\]: what move
Mukti [4d\]: l19 now ?
PlumeMoi [-\]: ko
Deva [1d\]: ko of course lol
mikoko [2k\]: ko
Tabemasu [7d\]: k19
Onmyoji [2d\]: l19 k19 
epost [1k?\]: white made a michael jackson move
Karoxys [5k\]: ko
]
;B[ka]C[PlumeMoi [-\]: ko
lonely [1d\]: dead 
lonely [1d\]: k19 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: k19
Highwayman [1d\]: dead
Javaness [2d\]: here comes the night
Trock [-\]: I see this dead as well. curious
mitgfrz: Jacko dead
IGoofy [1d\]: eat and connect
]
;W[mb]
;B[jb]C[royalty [4d\]: what
]
;W[ja]C[dado [1k\]: ko
fractic [1k\]: !
Sar [5k\]: what ?
Onmyoji [2d\]: ?
lonely [1d\]: lol
Orc [4d\]: ???
royalty [4d\]: haha
fractic [1k\]: why?
PlumeMoi [-\]: ko AS I SAID
YukiStone [3k\]: it didnt have to be ko
Orc [4d\]: white made a mistake
IGoofy [1d\]: wot
Tabemasu [7d\]: WOW
yypo [5d\]: heehee
Trock [-\]: oO
Albast [9k\]: not played yet
Deva [1d\]: read it out damnit
tildebis [?\]: it was alive if K19
Onmyoji [2d\]: why not k19
mikoko [2k\]: dead
Orc [4d\]: white just capture, blk is dead
tildebis [?\]: k19 then B take O19
Archy [2k\]: p19 
Gigot [5k\]: why a ko?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: p19
Orc [4d\]: but its still dead
tsuchigumo [-\]: ah
Albast [9k\]: ah
tsuchigumo [-\]: np
Novalys [2k\]: Crazy game, w wants total humiliation for black 
Karoxys [5k\]: p19
Novalys [2k\]: It's mean ^^
lazer [6d\]:  Big W mistake
donzet [?\]: p19
Tabemasu [7d\]: p19 then tenuki
Orc [4d\]: white k19, blk o19, white ignore, blk dead
Tabemasu [7d\]: its dead in gote
yypo [5d\]: indeed: this was my mistake as well: she played my bad move!!
Onmyoji [2d\]: yes k19 was kill
]
;B[nf]C[Javaness [2d\]: fun times
kidbuu: ha
royalty [4d\]: what has this world become when you cant even put your faith in 6dans
Nickless [3d\]: czesc kotasia
tsuchigumo [-\]: true, very true royal
Novalys [2k\]: k19 was dead shape wasn't it ?
]
;W[mf]C[Ukasuhs [1k\]: now dead...
]
;B[ka]C[yypo [5d\]: then you turn to 4d
kotasia [2k\]: czesc nickless
Nickless [3d\]: co dzisiaj na obiad ?
fractic [1k\]: yes k19 was dead shape
Ukasuhs [1k\]: nvm guess not...
fractic [1k\]: bulky five
Orc [4d\]: god, white made a 1d move
kotasia [2k\]: fasolka
fractic [1k\]: white has eye inside so she can fill
Nickless [3d\]: fajnie
kotasia [2k\]: nom
Javaness [2d\]: oh woe! what dark times are these!
Novalys [2k\]: No threat for white
Novalys [2k\]: and she still has to play B15
lonely [1d\]: a fe, fasolka :|
Nickless [3d\]: a kto robi ?
kotasia [2k\]: twoja mama
Nickless [3d\]: fasolka jest dobra
yypo [5d\]: even so, the result is terrible for b
Javaness [2d\]: G2?
YukiStone [3k\]: J11
Mukti [4d\]: g2 now?
Onmyoji [2d\]: p2 
Yaruki [10k\]: no threat? j11 looks good
epost [1k?\]: white could have killed instantly
Novalys [2k\]: j11 is not many threats
lonely [1d\]: jak bys przez 2 lata jechal na fasolce i innych warzywach mial bys dosc xD
Brunswiek [11k\]: j11 looks like a threat to me too
Albast [9k\]: b15 ?
Orc [4d\]: white can play G2 as threat
Nickless [3d\]: hm 
Nickless [3d\]: nie wiem
Nickless [3d\]: ide
tsuchigumo [-\]: a16 not b15
edowaado [3k\]: just w play n19
]
;W[pg]C[Novalys [2k\]: winning the ko is quite sente as w has to b15 orc
edowaado [3k\]: it would still be kill able
YukiStone [3k\]: she also has b15 to retake corner back
edowaado [3k\]: or.. it would XP
tsuchigumo [-\]: w still in control
]
;B[ma]C[Highwayman [1d\]: how much time they have ?
Onmyoji [2d\]: omgg
Javaness [2d\]: lolness
Orc [4d\]: I have a feeling white will make further mistakes and lose a winning game
BenSenTen [?\]: w 2 stones stronger than b
royalty [4d\]: r12?
edowaado [3k\]: Imma aliieve!
BrYanwithY [5k\]: black is enthusiastic
]
;W[qh]C[Javaness [2d\]: ai ai ai
]
;B[rg]C[fancyfood [1d\]: stopped the ponnuki
BrYanwithY [5k\]: amazing
YukiStone [3k\]: heh, he must not have seen r12 since he shook his head
]
;W[qg]C[yypo [5d\]: to err is human, to blunder divine
Earnest [2k\]: wow b CAN actually win this now.... long battle
Onmyoji [2d\]: w should win
epost [1k?\]: i think w will win
gdghgjd [1d\]: what about the time?
Javaness [2d\]: mortal, winning is no easy task 
BrYanwithY [5k\]: which should have won more easily
]
;B[rf]C[Novalys [2k\]: w can b15 any time and will be ahead in territory
dado [1k\]: b try to escape 
]
;W[qe]C[BrYanwithY [5k\]: she got bored so decided to spice it up
dado [1k\]: b s 11
]
;B[re]C[Javaness [2d\]: what
PlumeMoi [-\]: dead
BrYanwithY [5k\]: black seems dead...
Onmyoji [2d\]: s12 
Orc [4d\]: S12?
PlumeMoi [-\]: sure
tildebis [?\]: yes s12
dado [1k\]: s 12 s11 was ok
elligain [10k\]: yes
Novalys [2k\]: W is connected
Onmyoji [2d\]: b play is just hoping for mistakes
Ukasuhs [1k\]: looks like a semeai if w s12
Novalys [2k\]: she can S12
Novalys [2k\]: no semeai
Novalys [2k\]: w is connected
royalty [4d\]: not much of a semeai
epost [1k?\]: go white
Orc [4d\]: White S12, S11, T12, blk dead
Ukasuhs [1k\]: what sequence do u see that leads to no semeai
dupre [1k\]: is W woman?
dado [1k\]: if w s12 b p`13
tildebis [?\]: s12 and resign
BrYanwithY [5k\]: s12 p13 p12 o12 o13 q15 long hard ko?
lukasz [5k\]: strange game
Novalys [2k\]: no ko
]
;W[pe]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: :(
tomash [3k\]: ????
royalty [4d\]: really?
dongsaeng [3d\]: ....
Gonzalate [2d\]: rooh too nice
Ukasuhs [1k\]: q15 at o11 first
Ukasuhs [1k\]: then its semeai
tomash [3k\]: .........
PlumeMoi [-\]: oh la bouff...
royalty [4d\]: white is too nice
donzet [?\]: she looks nervous about kill
Orc [4d\]: omg, white 
BrYanwithY [5k\]: it would have been a ko for keeping the semai....a semai...
Javaness [2d\]: what is going on in this game
dado [1k\]: b take the chance
IGoofy [1d\]: do they belong to the super group ?
]
;B[rh]C[jerno [3d\]: this is smart
Orc [4d\]: she is too kind
]
;W[be]C[Rodolphe [3d\]: HOUA!!!!
jerno [3d\]: now white take sente
BrYanwithY [5k\]: what....
mafutrct [-\]: b p13 p12 o13 o12 q15 alive...
epost [1k?\]: is w a girl??
Novalys [2k\]: She could've killed without ko
]
;B[eq]C[dado [1k\]: yes this was old
Onmyoji [2d\]: white abandons 2 kills lol
Rodolphe [3d\]: S12 works :( for white
jayjolin [1k\]: w is a girl
Mukti [4d\]: w so ar ahead now...
mafutrct [-\]: s12 failed..
Javaness [2d\]: w is a woman
]
;W[or]C[royalty [4d\]: white is just merciful
Ukasuhs [1k\]: if w had s12 it was a semeai but w would win the semeai
royalty [4d\]: not much of semeai uka
Javaness [2d\]: a girl suggests she is about 10 years old
]
;B[nr]C[BrYanwithY [5k\]: assuming black wasn't a ko master
]
;W[pr]C[jerno [3d\]: I think it's not merciful
Novalys [2k\]: there was no semeai ukasuhs
Mem0r3x [1k\]: White doesn't black to resign now.
Novalys [2k\]: Because w was connected
]
;B[dr]
;W[cr]
;B[dp]
;W[cq]C[BrYanwithY [5k\]: I don't think girl suggests age
Ukasuhs [1k\]: s12 o13 o12 p12 p13 o11 q15 n12 p14 o13 made a semeai
dado [1k\]: b loase the game
vingol [1d\]:  w= woman b =not black
jerno [3d\]: the corner she took and the stones are maybe bigger than only kill the right
mafutrct [-\]: b could force w to conenct in a way that granted b a second eye..
tsuchigumo [-\]: what does w do after a16? I cannot see a clean kill
Novalys [2k\]: i clone ukasuhs
Novalys [2k\]: i english
Novalys [2k\]: join
Ukasuhs [1k\]: clone in teaching ladder
Javaness [2d\]: white is still way ahead
Mukti [4d\]: w abut 20 ahead safely
GigaDrill [1d\]: P14 became an eyes if W played S12, no ?
Orc [4d\]: S6 is huge sente
dado [1k\]: w win
IGoofy [1d\]: stream dead ?
Onmyoji [2d\]: w doesnt want any risks
Novalys [2k\]: i cloned english ukashus
]
;B[bn]C[epost [1k?\]: c'mon girl!!!
Onmyoji [2d\]: i hope w doesnt give in too much to b crazy moves
]
;W[bo]C[Archy [2k\]: c6 
Kunhikki [1d\]: b tries to make e2 sente
dado [1k\]: vb reduced w
Orc [4d\]: white can punish overplay at B7, but she doesn't want to risk
]
;B[cn]C[dado [1k\]: b s 6 it is huge
]
;W[co]C[Orc [4d\]: blk has N2 needing defend
dado [1k\]: now
Kunhikki [1d\]: b7 c5 e2 and w has to defend
epost [1k?\]: why is the go congress called zhuywqing tea???
xqm1122 [?\]: ?
tsuchigumo [-\]: sorry, help me out here, b a16 then....?
Gonzalate [2d\]: "sponsored by"
epost [1k?\]: they had so little money? :p
fancyfood [1d\]: o1
Javaness [2d\]: there is no Ing sponsorship now
Kunhikki [1d\]: a16 b16 b17 a18
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: KGS is sponsoring too
royalty [4d\]: kunhikki, why not just b19
PlumeMoi [-\]: i do sponsor too
mafutrct [-\]: kgs is?
epost [1k?\]: rough times...
Javaness [2d\]: oh I didn't know KGS was a sponsor
]
;B[ns]
;W[er]
;B[fr]
;W[ds]C[royalty [4d\]: a18 gives black a chance for ko
fractic [1k\]: ing does sponsor IIRC
fractic [1k\]: that's why the rest of the boards use simplified ing rules
Novalys [2k\]: a18 how is it ko ?
Novalys [2k\]: A18 B17
Mem0r3x [1k\]: a18??
Kunhikki [1d\]: ok true
tsuchigumo [-\]: quite
royalty [4d\]: keep up with the conversation, i was replying to kunhikki
tsuchigumo [-\]:  I read ko whatever
]
;B[bc]C[epost [1k?\]: she closed the door! :o
]
;W[bd]C[Yaruki [10k\]: its not closed all the way
ajistorm [1d\]: i read w dead if he tries to kill
Yaruki [10k\]: must have had noise
rvrey [7k\]: over for w
Orc [4d\]: there is nothing in the upper left coner
PlumeMoi [-\]: just yose
]
;B[fs]C[mitgfrz: She closed the door, and the game :)
Novalys [2k\]: such a crazy win lol
siulongbao [7k\]: hu won ?
tsuchigumo [-\]: I must be blind, sequence Orc?
royalty [4d\]: no, hu's not playing
Novalys [2k\]: Never seen this since guo juan destroyed catalin taranu
dupre [1k\]: o8 will seal the win
YukiStone [3k\]: n8?
siulongbao [7k\]: hus winning ?
tsuchigumo [-\]: after a16 for b
BrYanwithY [5k\]: It's spelled "who is winning".....white is winning
royalty [4d\]: a16 here?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: a16 b19 
Ukasuhs [1k\]: top left is just semedori
Orc [4d\]: S6 is huge still
tsuchigumo [-\]: no before
Hoyuk [14k\]: SE says white is awesome
royalty [4d\]: doesnt matter
bobstep [4k?\]: no, he's on second
rvrey [7k\]: ko
dongsaeng [3d\]: is he crying?
royalty [4d\]: white just pushes and it becomes this situation
Badduck [5d\]: b g18 is big too
tsuchigumo [-\]: forget it
lukasz [5k\]: b a8?
Yippie [2d\]: a16 b16 b17 b19 
fancyfood [1d\]: b looks upset
]
;W[rn]
;B[rm]C[BrYanwithY [5k\]: he actually does....
epost [1k?\]: b looks angry!!!!
ajistorm [1d\]: he can be
Onmyoji [2d\]: n8 
royalty [4d\]: fierce
Yaruki [10k\]: attack
superdupon [2d\]: he is loosing
]
;W[sm]C[IGoofy [1d\]: tsuchigumo needs tsumego
fancyfood [1d\]: go rage
]
;B[sl]
;W[sn]
;B[ql]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry
Gonzalate [2d\]: ;)
siulongbao [7k\]: np
pel [2k?\]: lol
mishik [6k\]: :)
Yaruki [10k\]: lol =P
mishik [6k\]: not important now :)
Orc [4d\]: guess what if blk play T4...
tsuchigumo [-\]: too much alcohol
Badduck [5d\]: 08 or so?
ajistorm [1d\]: t18
Edelweiss [-\]: oh B missclicked on a real goban ! xD
royalty [4d\]: good that they let him take it back
BrYanwithY [5k\]: his mouse messed up
PlumeMoi [-\]: is b a junky?
mishik [6k\]: What is b trying to do? Is there a way for him to win?
ajistorm [1d\]: oh yes n8 is good
SIsen [2k\]: w n8?
Edelweiss [-\]: his mouse has not the same QI
yypo [5d\]: b is not counting his eggs
Brunswiek [11k\]: plumemoi!???
Hoyuk [14k\]: B18 stones is zombie stones
epost [1k?\]: maaaaaaan b is so angry he could do anything :p
Billator [3d\]: who is playing here?
Novalys [2k\]: A16 then a18 ko ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://EuroGoTV.com
]
;W[nl]C[royalty [4d\]: novalys, why are you insisting on playing a18
Ukasuhs [1k\]: no ko in top left
fancyfood [1d\]: hope b doesnt do nuclear tesuji
Onmyoji [2d\]: no ko
Ukasuhs [1k\]: a16 b19 a18 c19 no ko
Yaruki [10k\]: lol
siulongbao [7k\]: ko in the middle
Mukti [4d\]: is the eurogotv conn. down or is my connection just stuck?
BrYanwithY [5k\]: It's you
Mediumdave [9k\]: justclick reload
mishik [6k\]: press f5
Oogway [2k\]: it works for me
Mukti [4d\]: OK
mishik [6k\]: It happens
]
;B[ni]C[maksymko [6k\]: ko?
Mukti [4d\]: Ok - works now, thx
]
;W[oh]C[lazer [6d\]: Terrible for W
maksymko [6k\]: oh no
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: why are you not here mukti?
Violence [-\]: hehe
Badduck [5d\]: hm terrible    why?
Mukti [4d\]: b wants to extend his game at board 1 to the maximum
Ukasuhs [1k\]: n8 works now?
lazer [6d\]: N8 was very simple
Mukti [4d\]: My wife wouldn't let me - Eurogo :-))
YukiStone [3k\]: n8 doesnt work
]
;B[oi]C[just9x9 [-\]: how is b's nick on kgs?
]
;W[ln]
;B[lp]
;W[lm]
;B[gb]
;W[fb]
;B[ga]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: :-((  sorry to hear that
IGoofy [1d\]: b is a flasche
Novalys [2k\]: b should resign
]
;W[eb]C[Novalys [2k\]: this is violent
Mukti [4d\]: :-) It's Ok, thanks to you I can watch the games and have fun
]
;B[bm]
;W[cl]
;B[al]
;W[dk]C[just9x9 [-\]: with your wife? :P
Mukti [4d\]: W just playing reinforced concrete style now
Mukti [4d\]: :-)))
]
;B[dj]C[royalty [4d\]: it's much more fun to kibitz behind the player's backs though
WhiteComet [6k\]: whos alive on the top left?
Mukti [4d\]: Right, Royalty
royalty [4d\]: in LOUD VOICES
yypo [5d\]: java: mukti means "release, give up"
]
;W[hc]C[epost [1k?\]: man, playing go is hard!
]
;B[sb]C[yypo [5d\]: maybe that explains
Momogo [3d\]: this game is still round1?
fractic [1k\]: one round a day
]
;W[ha]
;B[qb]C[just9x9 [-\]: top left b is dead
Badduck [5d\]: se: lower left is dead ^^
Onmyoji [2d\]: resign b
rvrey [7k\]: lol
]
;W[qi]
;B[ri]
;W[nq]
;B[mr]C[dado [1k\]: b b19
mishik [6k\]: w was trying to make p1 sente?
]
;W[jd]C[maksymko [6k\]: he can't resign, he's playing with a girl :))
IGoofy [1d\]: weird scenes inside the kitchen
Mukti [4d\]: close on the board now, w playing very solidly
mitgfrz: fight!!!!
Yaruki [10k\]: B looks like he going crazy
]
;B[nh]
;W[ng]C[Mukti [4d\]: I guess w is going to win by aboout 10 points
Orc [4d\]: blk keep on eating his nail
yypo [5d\]: no need to resign: sakata once lost a game by 24 p
BrYanwithY [5k\]: he looks tired, honestly
tsuchigumo [-\]: At that age  too much testosterone
Oogway [2k\]: does b19 work?
siulongbao [7k\]: wats the link ?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: no
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://EuroGoTV.com
dado [1k\]: b19 ko
Mukti [4d\]: b probably started to count now. A bit late...
tomash [3k\]: b19 - a18 imho
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;B[ag]
;W[ba]C[royalty [4d\]: what he said
Ukasuhs [1k\]: easiest way to read it is b19 a18 
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;B[es]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: Oogway, count to 4
Novalys [2k\]: sorry for black in this game
Novalys [2k\]: see you all
Badduck [5d\]: i bet sakata is sorry that he didnt resign :-)
]
;W[ao]
;B[am]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: sakata sucha noob
BrYanwithY [5k\]: who?
Gonzalate [2d\]: -_-
]
;W[ii]
;B[hi]
;W[pm]
;B[qm]C[IGoofy [1d\]: eurogo accidently showed the childrens tourney
Mukti [4d\]: we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight in the air, we shall fight on the ground - we will NEVER surrender!
]
;W[go]
;B[dr]C[siulongbao [7k\]: black is gonna win
]
;W[cs]C[just9x9 [-\]: Mukti [4d\]: My wife wouldn't let me - Eurogo :-))
edowaado [3k\]: what about fighting on wood?
Mukti [4d\]: :-)
Yippie [2d\]: Go and Churchill doesn't go well together *_^
Brunswiek [11k\]: is the stream working for you?
]
;B[nm]
;W[om]C[tildebis [?\]: B has lost long time ago already siulongbao
tsuchigumo [-\]: w giving him the look.
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;B[nn]
;W[ml]C[Doby [6k\]: finally!  someone closed the door
KWhite [9k\]: you missed fighting on the internet
Mukti [4d\]: Well, B does have a never say die attitude
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;B[ok]
;W[ol]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: Remember Stalingrad
dado [1k\]: it is close 
spherical [-\]: churchill had anything but a b&w view of the world
]
;B[os]
;W[ps]
;B[do]C[Ukasuhs [1k\]: q11?
Mukti [4d\]: But i do like that speech, Yippie
elligain [10k\]: a2 ?
superdupon [2d\]: ??
]
;W[eo]
;B[fp]C[Orc [4d\]: blk wants to kill white corner but impossible
fractic [1k\]: when liberties are filled it can become seki though
mishik [6k\]: seki in the BL?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: bottom left is classic seki if b plays first
mishik [6k\]: can try, I mean
IGoofy [1d\]: corner is seki with no outer libs
Yippie [2d\]: It's a great speech
Orc [4d\]: i cant see seki even
dado [1k\]: with seki b win
]
;W[id]C[fractic [1k\]: when liberties are filled orc
minismurf [-\]: yes, it requires no libs on outside to make the seki
Ukasuhs [1k\]: b3
Slurm [7k\]: n3
Mukti [4d\]: only if the lib. at A6 is filled can it become ski
Ukasuhs [1k\]: oh ya, otherwise w lives
YukiStone [3k\]: a2 b3 a3 a4 b1 
dado [1k\]: a 14
fractic [1k\]: with the liberty white can go for the ko variation which then becomes oshi-tsubusi
StefanRadu [1d?\]: p19?
tsuchigumo [-\]: w learnt this shape when she was 6 though
dado [1k\]: ba14 a15
mitgfrz: my wife wants to see seki
Mukti [4d\]: Hehe
Yippie [2d\]: w lives if it's seki Ukasuhs
dado [1k\]: b 19
]
;B[ar]C[Ukasuhs [1k\]: a3
mishik [6k\]: hehe :)
Gonzalate [2d\]: bleuaah
IGoofy [1d\]: muhahaha
minismurf [-\]: ...
Badduck [5d\]: hehehe tsuchigumo :-)
tsuchigumo [-\]: oh dear
fancyfood [1d\]: i think W is gonna do nuclear tesuji
]
;W[bq]C[Lion [1d\]: seki
Lion [1d\]: :O
Lion [1d\]: that's all
Uberdude [4d?\]: "are you 10k?"
YukiStone [3k\]: not without a6
Orc [4d\]: yeah seki but too early
dado [1k\]: w has an exernal liberty
qwan [2k\]: no seki here ..
Mukti [4d\]: b just being polite for a change, warning w about the seki :-)
Lion [1d\]: hoo no/
Ukasuhs [1k\]: still no seki
Uberdude [4d?\]: w "no"
Lion [1d\]: alive.
Violence [-\]: how is this seki?
Violence [-\]: at all?
Orc [4d\]: now there is nothing
tsuchigumo [-\]: such lack of class
vingol [1d\]: outside liberty
mitgfrz: my wife is very happy
]
;B[pi]C[dado [1k\]: and ko
fractic [1k\]: it isn't with the liberty
]
;W[hf]
;B[hg]C[Brunswiek [11k\]: is the stream down?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: no ko no seki
Hoyuk [14k\]: b a3 w a4
Oogway [2k\]: no the stream works
Ukasuhs [1k\]: look at the liberty on the outside
rEDwARRIOR [5k\]: w is alive
Uberdude [4d?\]: just looking like a noob
murai [3d\]: where can we see the first round's results please ?
]
;W[qa]C[Ipexander [12k\]: w alive
]
;B[af]
;W[ab]
;B[ra]
;W[pa]C[Earnest [2k\]: well, B gave himself his best chance...
Orc [4d\]: blk try T4...
]
;B[dn]C[fractic [1k\]: results aren't posted on the EGC website yet
Earnest [2k\]: didn't think it would be so close
Doby [6k\]: is there komi?
]
;W[oa]C[fractic [1k\]: there probably are more boards still playing
BrYanwithY [5k\]: he just flipped the board!
Ukasuhs [1k\]: lol t4
tsuchigumo [-\]: Give him THE LOOK again.
YukiStone [3k\]: t4 t3 ?
]
;B[er]C[Badduck [5d\]: close?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: t4 t3 no good
Orc [4d\]: T4 T3, then there might be something
Mukti [4d\]: I wonder, are vievers banned from that room, or are they just bored?
]
;W[og]C[Mukti [4d\]: viewers*
royalty [4d\]: flipping board tesuji, zhang is now black
Ukasuhs [1k\]: t4 t3 s3 
]
;B[ae]
;W[ac]C[dado [1k\]: b a6
Ukasuhs [1k\]: t4 s5 better by far
Orc [4d\]: T4 t3 s3 THERE WILL BE A MESS
]
;B[an]
;W[aq]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: ha, like a shot
Onmyoji [2d\]: w only wanted a small victory
BrYanwithY [5k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?ThrowingTheBoardAgainstTheWallDentingTheWallAndTheBoardPriorToUppercuttingYourOpponent
]
;B[jl]
;W[jm]
;B[nj]C[YukiStone [3k\]: t4 t3 s3 r3 ?
]
;W[ph]
;B[mi]
;W[mh]C[Mukti [4d\]: Nice URL, BrY
]
;B[ll]
;W[ik]C[Ukasuhs [1k\]: then t2
]
;B[ah]
;W[ad]C[Orc [4d\]: T4 S5, there is nothing
]
;B[ld]
;W[pb]
;B[rb]C[Ukasuhs [1k\]: and w needs to s5 or lose 3 stones
Violence [-\]: t4 t5, clearly!
Violence [-\]: the best move!
vingol [1d\]: looks like ingrules
Ukasuhs [1k\]: thats what i said earlier
bobombera [9k\]: wn3
IGoofy [1d\]: b resigned
Ukasuhs [1k\]: i was showing yukistone why not t4 t3
Uberdude [4d?\]: good timing
Violence [-\]: Why does he resign here?
just9x9 [-\]: lol uber
silver2k4 [5d\]: they counting
Javaness [2d\]: was a joke
elligain [10k\]: t9 ?
Orc [4d\]: T4 T3 there will be seki in the corner
Ukasuhs [1k\]: or ko right?
Orc [4d\]: I will try white if I were blk
Orc [4d\]: yeah ko possible
BrYanwithY [5k\]: what are they doing....
IGoofy [1d\]: all he wanted she missed the last bus
elligain [10k\]: ^^
Mukti [4d\]: Oh, Herman Hiddema just came in
Choukos [5k\]: ??
mishik [6k\]: thousand-year ko is possible...
dado [1k\]: b w 7.5
Choukos [5k\]: what are they doing ?
Orc [4d\]: why they take stones from the bowl?
Mukti [4d\]: ING rules
fractic [1k\]: ING counting
fractic [1k\]: i thought top 16 boards would use japanese
lukasz [5k\]: whats the score?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+8
silver2k4 [5d\]: i dont get this counting methode
vingol [1d\]: w+9
BrYanwithY [5k\]: What is this ING madness....
Ukasuhs [1k\]: when is round 2?
fractic [1k\]: both have exactly 180 stones
Mukti [4d\]: Any which way they count, w wins big.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+9
fractic [1k\]: whoever can fill in his territory wins
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry
fractic [1k\]: w gets to put 4 stones in black;s territory as komi
Highwayman [1d\]: round 2 tomorrow
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+9
silver2k4 [5d\]: what if a stone fall down and noone saw it?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: fractic itd have to move 360 for each to have 180 stones
tsuchigumo [-\]: Back to Siberia for b.
fractic [1k\]: they have 180 stones in the bowl
Ukasuhs [1k\]: ntm they would have to have same number of caps to have same number of stones
BrYanwithY [5k\]: That's what I was thinking, silver
fractic [1k\]: and they fill it in with that
bzdurka: what komi?
fractic [1k\]: the captures are also used to fill in
just9x9 [-\]: thx for relaying eurogotv1
swarn: ING counting without ING boxes?
fractic [1k\]: komi is 8 with black winning ties
Orc [4d\]: he is signing a check
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: cu all tomorrow 10 am
elligain [10k\]: hanks
fractic [1k\]: so 7.5 effectively
BenSenTen [?\]: he writing a cheque to w?
tsuchigumo [-\]: Thanky Harry
elligain [10k\]: tanks*
Ukasuhs [1k\]: eurogotv, what time zone
Orc [4d\]: he bet 100 euro on this game and lost
silver2k4 [5d\]: so every tournament, 260 bowls needed to be counted to have exactly 180 stones in each
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: amsterdam
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: time
Ukasuhs [1k\]: what time is it there now?
tsuchigumo [-\]: Pity w missed the kill.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: bye!!  it is 15.15 now
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 3.15 pm
Ukasuhs [1k\]: k
Mukti [4d\]: Thx Eurogo
Mediumdave [9k\]: i am confused, does this ing method of counting get any other result than other methods of counting?
Mukti [4d\]: they have special bowls for that Silver. Absoliutely hoorendoud bowls...
Mukti [4d\]: horrendous*
Doby [6k\]: also something in the ing rules about 'hot stones'  dont ask me
Mediumdave [9k\]: this sounds like a pretty useless method to me
bzdurka: white N3?
Krotor [19k\]: Leave everyone
Krotor [19k\]: Game police is here
buruburu [?\]: who win?
Akisame [8k\]: w
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