(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[9000]OT[1x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Go Congress 2009 board 1 round 3]PW[Catalin Taranu]PB[Eunkuk Kim]WR[5p]BR[7d]DT[2009-07-28]EV[European Go Congress 2009 board 1 round 3]RO[3]PC[Groningen, The Netherlands]US[HW9x9]C[Fredrik [-\]: when does it start?
seppy [?\]: does anybody have broadcast prblems?
MssrBlanc [3k\]: it was supposed to start at 10:00 AM GMT
MssrBlanc [3k\]: which was a few minutes ago
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it should have started allready; waiting for Catalin
TeeSushi [2d\]: they should put the stones in the bowles before playing ^^
MssrBlanc [3k\]: sorry--not GMT, but anyway, a few minutes ago
GoIsBoring [1d\]: black is korean?
Brandulka [?\]: Is just one board broadcasted here?
seppy [?\]: uhm spanish tshirt?
TeeSushi [2d\]: there was alexander ^^ ... he didnt start playing as well xD
oddalot [7k\]: catalin the best!
ProGoVerb [5k\]: OMG what matches :O! and i wanted to sleep now =( i want to see catalin playing alexander
Javaness [2d\]: those 2 never play
gornuf [19k\]: wow cataln is late
TeeSushi [2d\]: some strange sound is coming from the webcam
Nineball [2d\]: lee sedol best oddalot :)
oddalot [7k\]: yeah, catalin vs breakfast, that would of been cool
ProGoVerb [5k\]: what do u mean Javaness? they will never challenge eachother?
SpiderWeb [3d\]: who is catalin?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i will change the microphon soon
seppy [?\]: who is that girl?
Nineball [2d\]: is there a link to webcam?
Javaness [2d\]: I don't think they ever played at a Congress
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: why did the put the stones out like that?
oddalot [7k\]: catalin is like the strongest european player i think
allonzo [6k\]: sshhh... Eunkuk is falling asleep
allonzo [6k\]: :)
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: is he bored
holynec [?\]: this is gooooooooooooooooooooooood match
horacelamb [4d\]: www.eurogotv.com
MoonCrash [5k\]: is there video link?
yithril [2d\]: go eunkuk!!!
Ukasuhs [1k\]: whoah horacelamb is precog
ProGoVerb [5k\]: is this a championship?
mjm86 [19k\]: board 2 has started
horacelamb [4d\]: really bad sound right now though
ProGoVerb [5k\]: i bet 5000 USD on white any takers?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: ill bet 5000 lira
horacelamb [4d\]: I bet that black will win, but I hope white does
MssrBlanc [3k\]: bet 5 USD instead of $5000, and I'll take black
allonzo [6k\]: Java: they played at the European Masters in 2003 :-)
oddalot [7k\]: catalin will win
MssrBlanc [3k\]: odds are pretty good that they'll play each other in this tourney, no?
holynec [?\]: can we watch board 2
gornuf [19k\]: the sound is still kinda bad
horacelamb [4d\]: yeah it would be nice to broadcast multiple games
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, i will change the mic soon
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;B[qd]C[horacelamb [4d\]: we missed the breakfast vs. roln one
oddalot [7k\]: so catalin's time is running now?
holynec [?\]: it was on board 8
holynec [?\]: :[
maligo [4d\]: Enukuk vs. the chair
Orc [4d\]: is catalin still sleeping?
Nineball [2d\]: win by default on live web?
oddalot [7k\]: hah, catalin doesn't even need to show up to win
Nineball [2d\]: awwwww, alexandre vs. roln woulda been great to see
horacelamb [4d\]: yeah I know
yuko [?\]: is catalin a pro?
horacelamb [4d\]: ya
Kayres [16k\]: yes
Kayres [16k\]: p
mutsuhitoB [3k\]: shows up a hour late and is like "best shower ever"
gornuf [19k\]: lol
MoonCrash [5k\]: eurogo, can you provide video link?
A1R [8k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
oddalot [7k\]: catalin looks like a player, maybe he had some guests over
OneLuck [2d\]: what catalin did not show up?
MoonCrash [5k\]: thx
ProGoVerb [5k\]: Eurogo u have any info on the whereabouts of catalin?
ebola [10k\]: who is winning?
TeeSushi [2d\]: there is catalin :D
A1R [8k\]: he is there
oddalot [7k\]: there he is
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;W[dc]C[ryanktw123 [7k\]: faster
Kayres [16k\]: how u know haha
Kayres [16k\]: ah
Kayres [16k\]: k haha
Javaness [2d\]: theCatalin the best!
ryanktw123 [7k\]: faster!!!!!!!!!
ProGoVerb [5k\]: there we go
gornuf [19k\]: now kim whet a dissappeared
Nineball [2d\]: ryan... this is real tournament game with quality so won't be fast
mutsuhitoB [3k\]: apparently they are not allowed to sit at the same time
ProGoVerb [5k\]: yeah that must be it
OneLuck [2d\]: how much time does catalin have left?
ProGoVerb [5k\]: heard its a new rule suggested
Kayres [16k\]: lifetime
Nineball [2d\]: "oh, what's this threat letter saying i should lose?"
liger [5k\]: white is ahead
Nineball [2d\]: but it's b's move
jinkidie [15k?\]: yup he's killin him
ProGoVerb [5k\]: are u mad? black has sente
liger [5k\]: but white has more points
ebola [10k\]: w is blocking b
kiddai [6k?\]: ohh just came in time ^^
mutsuhitoB [3k\]: woot back
ecgotf [7k\]: w+5.5
liger [5k\]: It was foolish for white to play a gote move at this point in the game, though
OneLuck [2d\]: wow mister tough face has arrived
ecgotf [7k\]: black is catching up on komi
MoonCrash [5k\]: who won last night, eunkuk kim, or rob van..?
liger [5k\]: Is it really 5.5?
OneLuck [2d\]: what to do what to do???
OneLuck [2d\]: flip a coin man
gornuf [19k\]: kim
ebola [10k\]: i thot new komi was 6.5
mutsuhitoB [3k\]: that ref needs to stop walking by
kiddai [6k?\]: but a coin has 2 choices..
Pata [6k\]: komi7.5
MssrBlanc [3k\]: eunkuk is 2-0
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;B[pp]C[liger [5k\]: 7.5....wow
MssrBlanc [3k\]: as is catalin
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;W[co]C[liger [5k\]: Eurogo has earlier games postes as 6.5 though...
horacelamb [4d\]: if this is using ing rules is it really 7.5?
horacelamb [4d\]: ing is 8, I believe
holynec [?\]: kim won last night
Javaness [2d\]: I am not sure what rules they use
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ING
horacelamb [4d\]: I'm pretty sure they use ing
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: komi 8
kiddai [6k?\]: oh ty
liger [5k\]: that's huge
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;B[de]C[ProGoVerb [5k\]: chinese rulez
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;W[dg]C[liger [5k\]: I don't like such a big komi....
ProGoVerb [5k\]: never mind :P
jinkidie [15k?\]: ewwwwww
Nineball [2d\]: i'm guessing w wins ties?  so it's like 8.5 komi wow o.o
horacelamb [4d\]: haha dinerchtein checking up on his buddies
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, black wins ties
liger [5k\]: ah, so it's basically 7.5
horacelamb [4d\]: oh, so it is just 7.5?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
Ukasuhs [1k\]: why make it 8 if they cant tie
horacelamb [4d\]: yeah, I don't get that either
jinkidie [15k?\]: gotta be unique
Ukasuhs [1k\]: or do they want 7.99 instead of 7.5 lol
liger [5k\]: semantics....asthetics...who cares :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ask mr Ing
liger [5k\]: The point is it should be 5.5
A1R [8k\]: saijo sama
Ukasuhs [1k\]: the statistic say othrwise
allonzo [6k\]: wow
liger [5k\]: actually, I like the idea that there can be ties...
jinkidie [15k?\]: so they have never played this opening before?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Saijo Sensai walked in
allonzo [6k\]: there's Saijo sensei
Nineball [2d\]: liger, it should not be 5.5 lol
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;B[gd]C[Ukasuhs [1k\]: when they change komi its because one color is winning more games than the other
Ukasuhs [1k\]: komi is based on statistics
mutsuhitoB [3k\]: which is really cool i think
YogSothoth [1d\]: I think that theoretical komi is smaller than actual komi, since b has a psychological advantage of the initiative
liger [5k\]: then there are a lot of different statistics
jinkidie [15k?\]: gee i was expecting these guys to rattle through the opening like chess masters
Javaness [2d\]: never really believed ogeima here
cstoner [3k\]: Woo! Go Catalin!
ebola [10k\]: g16 means b is running for his life???
Nineball [2d\]: g16 means it's joseki about to be played most likely :)
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: it's jsut an outside-oriented joseki hoice
Oloril [1k\]: they have 2.5 hours each not even counting the byo-yomi, they have no reason to rush
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i will stop the live TV broadcast for 1 minute for sound
horacelamb [4d\]: is g16 common with d13 as opposed to d12?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: the sound is odd :S  i dunno if it's just me
mutsuhitoB [3k\]: gah
Ukasuhs [1k\]: olori, say that 5 hours from now when they dont have enough time to read out everything
Nineball [2d\]: it's not just you chem, that's why they're fixing it
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: g 13 not as common this way but playable
holynec [?\]: changho played this before
kiddai [6k?\]: hardly see g16 after d13..
kiddai [6k?\]: oh he did?
Orc [4d\]: g16 is uncommon
holynec [?\]: tried it out myself, just more recent ;)
MoonCrash [5k\]: where should w respond?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: e15
gornuf [19k\]: E14
kiddai [6k?\]: where lee changho responded?
YogSothoth [1d\]: d16 now
oddalot [7k\]: c16
holynec [?\]: d16
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: oh yeah that one
jinkidie [15k?\]: e15
watergun [-\]: chinese rule?
holynec [?\]: lemme find the game :\]
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: i need to study joseki again
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on European Go Congress 2009 board 1 round 3
kiddai [6k?\]: ok ^^
Nineball [2d\]: ah, i saw that d16 joseki a few times in 9d games here on kgs
holynec [?\]: found it, ill link in a min
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: is sound now ok?
Lentyi [2k\]: And  next move is?
gornuf [19k\]: sounds much better
janwil [?\]: sound is fine
arcades [3k\]: d16 only move though??
horacelamb [4d\]: ya d16 seems standard
seppy [?\]: how old is b???
gornuf [19k\]: 22 i think
holynec [?\]: http://www.go4go.net/v2/modules/collection/sgfview.php?id=15360
ebola [10k\]: 7
mjm86 [19k\]: is it rude to talk during a go game or something?
kiddai [6k?\]: tnx holynec :)
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;W[ee]C[holynec [?\]: i found this joseki interesting, so i remembered it
holynec [?\]: O_o
kiddai [6k?\]: woah
oddalot [7k\]: he
YogSothoth [1d\]: this must be some kind of novelty
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: not that bad
horacelamb [4d\]: this is "supposedly" disadvantageous
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;B[ef]
;W[df]
;B[ed]
;W[ce]
;B[fe]C[maligo [4d\]: crap
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;W[dd]C[YogSothoth [1d\]: I'm pretty sure Catalin knows the "correct" joseki though :)
TeeSushi [2d\]: acording to kogos
Javaness [2d\]: white gets a lot of points
holynec [?\]: isnt this good for white
holynec [?\]: err black i mean
]
;B[nc]
;W[qj]C[maligo [4d\]: :P
IGoofy [1d\]: ^^
jamt [?\]: finally =)
oddalot [7k\]: ?
cgkv: takeback
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;B[dq]
;W[ep]
;B[eq]
;W[fp]
;B[gq]
;W[eg]C[oddalot [7k\]: where was the mistake?
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;B[cq]C[suaviento [7k\]: undo
horacelamb [4d\]: ohhh
maligo [4d\]: p17
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;W[gg]C[jankenpon: r10
jankenpon: ?
horacelamb [4d\]: o17 
Ukasuhs [1k\]: o17 was at p17
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry
oddalot [7k\]: ahh
jankenpon: ohh cant see wo0
maligo [4d\]: np
yithril [2d\]: c7 next?
jankenpon: i cant see*
seppy [?\]: c7
horacelamb [4d\]: that helps to explain the tenuki too
watergun [-\]: coke should give catalin some endosement fee.hehe..
gornuf [19k\]: any body here want a pupil ???
cstoner [3k\]: if you pay me ;)
jankenpon: no..
cgkv: i have 2
cstoner [3k\]: j/k
jinkidie [16k?\]: sure! :)
cgkv: i use them to see
Poney [2k\]: lol at paying a 3k
gornuf [19k\]: u hjave to be at least 5k +
cstoner [3k\]: agreed, Poney :)
holynec [?\]: black doesnt know he played
holynec [?\]: lol
Poney [2k\]: B shouldn't ignore E13
OneLuck [2d\]: there is a 5k who actually teacher here for money
Poney [2k\]: W getting ahead now
gornuf [19k\]: yea but im broke
Poney [2k\]: Kageyama would cry seeing this
seppy [?\]: is c7 too soon?
gornuf [19k\]: and my old teacher is too busy with school
cgkv: seems urgent
Poney [2k\]: All the benefits of the ponnuki are gone
cstoner [3k\]: really?! I hope he doesn't get payed very much. 5k advice is worse than 3k advice, and 3k advice is bad
watergun [-\]: an invasion by b would be nice. :)
OneLuck [2d\]: he said something like if you study 8 hours a day with him for a year you can become 5k
yithril [2d\]: europeans have such quaint coke bottles
gornuf [19k\]: yea but all the other d lvl ppl i asked said no
holynec [?\]: i love how we dont see the sponsor name, but just the gonin
holynec [?\]: *groningen
holynec [?\]: :p
myg0t [10k\]: i was introduced to go last christmas and dont study too awful much and im 10k
IGoofy [1d\]: goningen
OneLuck [2d\]: I became 10k in under 2 weeks
myg0t [10k\]: :(
from2ch [7k\]: is this review?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: if anyone is serious about getting lessons, my wife is a really good teacher and she's giving lessons on KGS
Sakeus [-\]: umm
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: please leave a message with xliu if you are interested
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: thanks
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: are you married to Guo Juan?
watergun [-\]: her name pls..
cstoner [3k\]: if anyone (lower kyu) want lessons, they should just get KGS+ and play a ton of games
holynec [?\]: Lol
yithril [2d\]: hahahaha
jayantu [4k\]: why did black let whit play g 13 b:)
yithril [2d\]: that'd be awesome
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: xingshuo liu
holynec [?\]: *high fives EuroGoTV1*
OneLuck [2d\]: but I am still a kyu after 1.5 years
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: i'm happy with who i am married to, thank you :)
watergun [-\]: thx :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
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;B[cm]
;W[ck]C[ebola [10k\]: e7
tsuchigumo [-\]: Wait a few years Chemboy
holynec [?\]: c7 was expected :\]
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: e7 feels right
oddalot [7k\]: bbl
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: we'll see tsuchi
]
;B[em]C[Javaness [2d\]: how can you say that tsuchigumo
]
;W[gp]
;B[hq]C[horacelamb [4d\]: funny how KGS is ahead of the cams
Javaness [2d\]: don't you realise his wife could be watching
cstoner [3k\]: I love the lag in the video feed :)
]
;W[hp]C[Javaness [2d\]: I don't like this for white now
tsuchigumo [-\]: Touching idealism
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: hane
OneLuck [2d\]: chem you have been deranked before?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: hm, no?  why?
YukiStone [3k\]: d9?
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;B[ek]C[ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: that's an odd question
OneLuck [2d\]: Back to AGA 1k... time to hold it
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: ha well, my aga rank kinda sucks :S
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: let's see how congress goes
holynec [?\]: what did you enter a
holynec [?\]: as
Javaness [2d\]: can they derank you in congress?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: it's still 1k, but i think i can do well
horacelamb [4d\]: lol derank you at the congress
holynec [?\]: you didnt enter as higher? :[
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: no, not in the kgs way
Violence [-\]: nah, Java
Violence [-\]: It'd be cool though
Umaguma [3k\]: eurogo should add a  goban and chat on their site so  need to go from kgs and back
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: xliu won't let me promote :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: why wont there be live tv broadcast from the US congress?
Violence [-\]: have sweety just come by, grab your name tag, and put a big [-\] over your rank
horacelamb [4d\]: the guys who run the tournament don't really like self promotion
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: hahahaha lololol
Tobamf [20k?\]: how much will black lose by?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: that would be funny
Violence [-\]: Because you're the only one who does it, Harry
Javaness [2d\]: I wonder if i should really enter at 1d
horacelamb [4d\]: EuroGoTV1 - we need to get on that
Violence [-\]: we're quite appreciative of that, of course
holynec [?\]: i self-promote myself at local tourneys
holynec [?\]: so that my games are more fair :k
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: there was a broadcast at the jin chen tourney
holynec [?\]: *in the past
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but i can send instructions for how to do it yourself (on EuroGoTV)
horacelamb [4d\]: on the other hand we'll be broadcasting a lot more games on KGS
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, that was great
Violence [-\]: That was because Harry assisted us through Wang Zi
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: oh this is the same guy as eurogotv1?
Violence [-\]: I... think so
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: very cool
]
;W[iq]C[ebola [10k\]: ouch
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: just cut it
Violence [-\]: now... G13... feels kinda weird
Tobamf [20k?\]: maybe 5p thinks it's okay still?
adoreme [-\]: yea floating in the air
Javaness [2d\]: I agree
MssrBlanc [3k\]: so, chemboy, are you really married, or is that just a joke?
Javaness [2d\]: ask him to take the move back please
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: i'm really  married
watergun [-\]: f3>
watergun [-\]: f3?
Umaguma [3k\]: imho ;;; cut then think .. 
Violence [-\]: I'm launching the missile now, Java
OneLuck [2d\]: does your wife play go?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: yes she does
Violence [-\]: you should see it on the live feed soon.
OneLuck [2d\]: what is her nick?
MssrBlanc [3k\]: cool--I sorta imagine every I talk to on kgs is actually 16
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: xliu
jayantu [4k\]: my last girl i met playing go
seppy [?\]: is j3 sente?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: though i think she's stronger than that in person
myg0t [10k\]: xliu is 5d kgs no?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: ya
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: i think tha'ts underranked if she's serious
Tobamf [20k?\]: what, so your wife wastes you at go?
OneLuck [2d\]: I thought about that. but then she did not look to be the same as on your profile
jayantu [4k\]: can black connect c3 and c7 ?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: yep, i can't even have a good game with her hahah it's ok tho
Tobamf [20k?\]: cool!
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: we're all good at some things
jayantu [4k\]: what are u good at ;) ?
tsuchigumo [-\]: Anyone want to hear about my girlfriend?  :)
Tobamf [20k?\]: man, you are lucky to have a wife you can kick your butt at go
Tobamf [20k?\]: *who
flosuji [2k\]: seppy if b doesn"t answer, w has j 2 sente which is big
jayantu [4k\]: my girl stopped playing go against me
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: erm... cooking, school, being sily
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: some other stuff too
jayantu [4k\]: :)
Tobamf [20k?\]: did your wife teach you how to play?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: sometimes
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: but she gets upset when i do dumb things...
Tobamf [20k?\]: i mean, did you learn about go from her?
Javaness [2d\]: if you play badly, does she make you stand in the corner?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: oh no
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: i knew before
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: haha nope java
jayantu [4k\]: no washing up the dishes
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: thought that would be funny
seppy [?\]: please focus on the game
jayantu [4k\]: or ironing
watergun [-\]: how did you get to know your wife, chem?:)
OneLuck [2d\]: we might tsuchigumo. send her naked picture and we will say our opinion
Tobamf [20k?\]: hahaha
jinkidie [16k?\]: so where are the kimonos?
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: sorry seppy
Javaness [2d\]: watch it OneLuck
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: yea, nothing like that is happening :p
OneLuck [2d\]: yes java I will watch the picture
tsuchigumo [-\]: She is Cuban. so use your imagination
OneLuck [2d\]: I promise
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: but i can't stay awake loner... need sleep
ChemBoy613 [1d?\]: nite all
tsuchigumo [-\]: On a more mundane note I like w's position
jayantu [4k\]: can black connect to the 3 stones ?
watergun [-\]: what happened to the live feed?
cgkv: i think so
jayantu [4k\]: i liked blacks position before  
suechan [5d\]: d5 
jinkidie [16k?\]: b to move it feels like he can connect, but w to move looks hard
jayantu [4k\]: better e4 than d3
YukiStone [3k\]: c10 bad?
Tobamf [20k?\]: white has to be the favorite. White must be at least 1 stone stronger than black, if not more
cstoner [3k\]: b seems a little ahead right now
seppy [?\]: e9 mistake?
Onmyoji [2d\]: ok who win?
jayantu [4k\]: balack shouldnt have let white build so much infliuence
jayantu [4k\]: the wall at the bottom and d 13- g13
cstoner [3k\]: e9 seems fine because c9 is still weak
cgkv: that is what i thought but 7d knows better i guess
watergun [-\]: not necessarily stronger than b, tobamf
Onmyoji [2d\]: w weaker than b
jayantu [4k\]: really ?
MssrBlanc [3k\]: yeah, black is a wild-card...could be stronger than w, could be weaker
jinkidie [16k?\]: how many p players are there in the world?
Phear [-\]: more than i'd care to count to
MssrBlanc [3k\]: 500 or so professionals
Sandalphon [5d\]: depends on what you mean... how many pro strength? or how many actual pros
jinkidie [16k?\]: small club
MssrBlanc [3k\]: that's a guess..could be more than 1k
jayantu [4k\]: 265.323.122 exactly
Sandalphon [5d\]: in korea, probably a large number of pro strength players who never become pro
Sandalphon [5d\]: hence this guy being a wild card
Phear [-\]: in japan, probably man pro players who aren't quite up to the challenge
Phear [-\]: many*
Javaness [2d\]: but they made pro though :)
jinkidie [16k?\]: well tournaments aren't much fun uunless you are a masochist
seppy [?\]: eurogo can u show us oh chi min game?
cgkv: w wants kakari q4 
Violence [-\]: tournaments are lots of fun
edlee [2k\]: EuroGoTV, nice view of board... 2?
MssrBlanc [3k\]: oh chi min is eurogotv3
jinkidie [16k?\]: pure torture 
watergun [-\]: those korean and chinese insei are as strong as pros. we can never tell..
watergun [-\]: inseis*
edlee [2k\]: Thanks, eurogotv :)
flosuji [2k\]: as strong maybe not but competitive for sure
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;B[bj]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: lol
jayantu [4k\]: misclick
Javaness [2d\]: J2 then N3?
soslow [2k?\]: no tesuji
Draak [1d\]: well know tesuji
flosuji [2k\]: it's a kgs tesuji
Sandalphon [5d\]: tis the shape point
Sandalphon [5d\]: a good way to settle the black stones quickly
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;W[bk]C[Hightime [3k?\]: yeah
IGoofy [1d\]: lol
NattyIce [1k\]: b hasnt lost yet?
AntiAdmin [1d?\]: B10 is good move
A1R [8k\]: no
NattyIce [1k\]: thx
kukulis4 [2d\]: black position looks better to me
AntiAdmin [1d?\]: it protects against D8 peep in sente
ZothOmmog [4k\]: when was the last move? yesterday?
NattyIce [1k\]: these guys seem intent on this game... quite awesome!!
jayantu [4k\]: yes black was 5d then
takanashi [7d\]: some info about darkhorse BUM -board 29 ?
NattyIce [1k\]: love dinnerstein walking around
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: BUM is walking around a lot
cgkv: now b get sente to connect i think
jayantu [4k\]: is there a tv broadcast of the games ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
jayantu [4k\]: thx
Sakeus [-\]: haha
tsuchigumo [-\]: Seems b did not expect b9
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;B[cj]
;W[bm]
;B[cn]
;W[bn]
;B[do]C[takanashi [7d\]: how about his ganja doping?
BigDoug [-\]: stop it please takanashi
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;W[bo]
;B[dp]
;W[dj]
;B[ip]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: white hurting
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;W[ir]
;B[hr]C[Javaness [2d\]: is quite ok
NattyIce [1k\]: catalin generally favored in this game?
horacelamb [4d\]: I'd reckon that the Korean dude is
Javaness [2d\]: I'd guess black is favourite
NattyIce [1k\]: word
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i think this was a big succes for black
ZothOmmog [4k\]: i would bet on black at this point
Javaness [2d\]: Catalin not as hungry as he used to be
holynec [?\]: can we get camera on breakfast? :\]
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;W[kq]C[holynec [?\]: he's in a pickle
ZothOmmog [4k\]: are these 7p players?
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;B[io]C[MssrBlanc [3k\]: hungry? you mean he doesn't care as much?
horacelamb [4d\]: Catalin is doing better than Alex
NattyIce [1k\]: hard for w
jayantu [4k\]: wow i see players on a real board
IGoofy [1d\]: w should resign
snowman [-\]: winter was hard
holynec [?\]: is guo juan playing in tourney?
jayantu [4k\]: black escaped
meuns [2k\]: this game is close
jinkidie [16k?\]: q4 looks a bit lonely
NattyIce [1k\]: b dictates too muc from this position
holynec [?\]: can we get camera on board 2 for a few mins? :\]
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, she is for teaching here
IGoofy [1d\]: w should take a lesson from her
Ukasuhs [1k\]: what are the time restrictions?
holynec [?\]: thank you eurogo
NattyIce [1k\]: breakfast lookin good
holynec [?\]: his game isnt though :p
ZothOmmog [4k\]: are all the players euro?
holynec [?\]: i dont think kim is...
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no
jayantu [4k\]: white seems to get nervous
IGoofy [1d\]: just the weaker ones
holynec [?\]: i think he has to sack em
holynec [?\]: for now
holynec [?\]: but too big of loss...
NattyIce [1k\]: w needs to shift gears...n16? s4?
zc3k [1k\]: looks death
snowman [-\]: o3 looks like a commonplace move
ZothOmmog [4k\]: too big
ZothOmmog [4k\]: r7?
PooH [5k\]: o3?
NattyIce [1k\]: slwo r7 is
NattyIce [1k\]: slow
ZothOmmog [4k\]: j17 maybe?
flutiste [-\]: catalin want to kill the corner lol
PooH [5k\]: in snowman we trust :)
dfoo [14k\]: G6
tsuchigumo [-\]: o3 i guess
ZothOmmog [4k\]: white would be crazy to try and make f4 live
dfoo [14k\]: isn't P3 better than O3?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: what r the time restrictions for this round of the tournament?
horacelamb [4d\]: o3 for sure
cstoner [3k\]: video lagging out for anyone else?
PooH [5k\]: p3 lets n3
dfoo [14k\]: ah right :)
dfoo [14k\]: thats why I'm 14k! :D
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;W[nq]
;B[qn]C[snowman [-\]: see
flutiste [-\]: oooooo
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;W[qg]C[NattyIce [1k\]: never for cliches.. but hard game for w
Ukasuhs [1k\]: i dont think n3 would be a good response if w had p3
cgkv: b10 was really good
horacelamb [4d\]: white still has a game here
GoTypeR [5k\]: hmm...w is not worry about this 4 stones??
PooH [5k\]: point was its generally cuttable
royalty [4d\]: they're dead to me
horacelamb [4d\]: compared to Alex especially
IGoofy [1d\]: q3 enough
NattyIce [1k\]: enough for what>
NattyIce [1k\]: ?
just9x9 [-\]: when pemitting b to d4, w went for exchange: his four stones for blacks two on the left
IGoofy [1d\]: for u to ask
jinkidie [16k?\]: if thise 4 go... thats gonna be a big corner
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;B[jd]C[PooH [5k\]: those 4 stones about 20 points and one weak b group, but  adding more stones is too risky
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;W[gb]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
NattyIce [1k\]: catalin been in this position before i hope
glace [-\]: Catalin look very tired
PooH [5k\]: know nothing about ko, but just guessing :)
Ukasuhs [1k\]: g6 h7 and w is dead...
snowman [-\]: only 25 points + in the corner
jinkidie [16k?\]: ya i was tinking g6
Ukasuhs [1k\]: im pretty sur ethat w doesnt try to help thos stones cause they r just dead
NattyIce [1k\]: leave stones 
royalty [4d\]: h6, h5, f6 if you want to try fight your way out
poirette [1d\]: was that thomas debarre at the back of the video?
PooH [5k\]: and he can use that group in ko fight
snowman [-\]: looks frankenhuysen to me
Ukasuhs [1k\]: h6 h5 f6 g6 
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;B[pr]C[NattyIce [1k\]: ogeima seems weird with g18 to me
ZothOmmog [4k\]: why not f17 for b?
royalty [4d\]: uka, f7
snowman [-\]: and that is a korean pro, i presume
snowman [-\]: yang or something
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 9p
poirette [1d\]: p2 now?
holynec [?\]: he's not wearing a professional thing...
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: he is smart
holynec [?\]: what do you call em? :\]
snowman [-\]: i've seen him in baduk tv and now on eurogotv
PooH [5k\]: pants?
cgkv: n17 
NattyIce [1k\]: guess b seems game over?
gornuf [19k\]: sash
holynec [?\]: ah yes, no sash? :\]
flosuji [2k\]: who would win?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: g18 was a good move, but i think white should have played q2 first
ZothOmmog [4k\]: se give the game to b
royalty [4d\]: no sash? not real pro
oddalot [7k\]: is g4 dead?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: mostly
jinkidie [16k?\]: these guys get so much out of so little
ZothOmmog [4k\]: but not all
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;W[or]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: o4?
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;B[fb]
;W[fc]
;B[gc]C[IGoofy [1d\]: r3
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;W[eb]
;B[hb]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: nice
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;W[qr]C[NattyIce [1k\]: come ojn  m17
Khaos [5k\]: nah, m16
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;B[qq]
;W[ps]
;B[pq]C[dfoo [14k\]: what was the purpose of the G18 exchange?
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;W[rr]
;B[ql]
;W[rq]C[dfoo [14k\]: for W?
veteran [1d\]: my money's on W
ZothOmmog [4k\]: territory to the right for b
IGoofy [1d\]: top points
flosuji [2k\]: w  might destroy top right now i guess :/
Onmyoji [2d\]: b+21.5
TeeSushi [2d\]: r17 wonder if its a good idea
snowman [-\]: what is the value of w f19 or b g19?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: small
dfoo [14k\]: but couldn't he get the same from F18?
veteran [1d\]: flosuji !?
horacelamb [4d\]: 10 points perhaps
snowman [-\]: more than 10 but less than 16
PooH [5k\]: m16 for white?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: s11
TeeSushi [2d\]: m16 is too slow
suaviento [7k\]: q17 for w
PooH [5k\]: or is m16 unreasonable
PooH [5k\]: ok
malaczarna [4d\]: some aji for white in G7
TeeSushi [2d\]: m16 is possible but aji keshi i guess
ZothOmmog [4k\]: why not s11 for b?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: r16 too far?
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;B[ej]C[Khaos [5k\]: too early for the aji of g4 to  be useful
Lepenski [1k\]: big
NattyIce [1k\]: love the camera angle
Lepenski [1k\]: big move
tsAii [?\]: whats up with the screen below?
poirette [1d\]: is it sente though?
suaviento [7k\]: r 16 is too far to help  w s11
NattyIce [1k\]: it'd be awesome if w gets sente with j7
StefanRadu [1d?\]: p15 quite huge
StefanRadu [1d?\]: for b
snowman [-\]: did white escape?
suaviento [7k\]: d11 just straight?
liger [5k\]: the system will take care of him
liger [5k\]: that's what they say
Darg [-\]: white counter escaped coz black escaped earlier
Onmyoji [2d\]: what is the escaper policy in the egr?
snowman [-\]: if he does it ten times, he'll be in trouble
Onmyoji [2d\]: egc
ZothOmmog [4k\]: drawing and quartering
IGoofy [1d\]: no one escapes
liger [5k\]: drawing and quartering?
liger [5k\]: I'm sure people have escaped....
ZothOmmog [4k\]: who is number one??
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i am
suaviento [7k\]: ??!!
liger [5k\]: with so many games, I would think someone might have a family emergency or something and have to leave....I wonder what happens then
tsAii [?\]: could any1 explain the screen below
gornuf [19k\]: I agree eurogo!
IGoofy [1d\]: breakfast look shungry
jinkidie [16k?\]: such occurrences are recorded as simply a very large tenuki
liger [5k\]: lol
ZothOmmog [4k\]: b is breakfast?
Gonzalate [2d\]: no
StefanRadu [1d?\]: no. w on board 2
poirette [1d\]: catalin gone for a smoke probably....
oddalot [7k\]: tenuki here or what?
Pot [3k\]: nice girl !
liger [5k\]: definitely no tenuki
poirette [1d\]: d11 most probably
liger [5k\]: seems like the only move
StefanRadu [1d?\]: d11 is too gote for w`s situation.
oddalot [7k\]: that kid played artem on youtube i remember
Onmyoji [2d\]: these koreans never leave the board?
StefanRadu [1d?\]: but. yes. looks like the only way
liger [5k\]: does white really have a good sente move here?
StefanRadu [1d?\]: w must q17 - r17 soon.
IGoofy [1d\]: resign is sente since b cannot answer
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;W[di]C[gornuf [19k\]: kim is taking a na
gornuf [19k\]: *nap
StefanRadu [1d?\]: if id be black , if w d11. id play p15
gornuf [19k\]: nvm
ZothOmmog [4k\]: why not q14?
poirette [1d\]: q14 i prefer to p15
liger [5k\]: p15 seems funny to me
edlee [2k\]: how about P13 for B now?
StefanRadu [1d?\]: because it still leaves alot of aji in the corner. but, yes, maybe q14 is better.
StefanRadu [1d?\]: p13 is a funny lookin boshi.
poirette [1d\]: q11 maybe too?
liger [5k\]: q14 looks butter, but is that big enough or....sente enough?
MssrBlanc [3k\]: stefan, call it a 'cap'
ZothOmmog [4k\]: p13 looks overplay
StefanRadu [1d?\]: it is
Baccano [2d\]: black played s4
poirette [1d\]: caping move is called boshi... :)
alfuij: q10?
StefanRadu [1d?\]: holly boshi.
liger [5k\]: I guess s4 makes sense.....
ZothOmmog [4k\]: boshi doesnt like black stone
StefanRadu [1d?\]: if b s4. maybe w will invade the upper corner
tomash [3k?\]: b did play s4
edlee [2k\]: EuroGoTV, B played S4
MssrBlanc [3k\]: I know...use the japanese only when it's obviously superior to the english
Tetsunya [1d\]: who is black?
Baccano [2d\]: and Catalin looking more toward black's group than his :p I think he has to defend first tho
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;B[rp]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i was too busy with my VIP-member adverticement^^
Nyrckes [1k\]: Tetsunya: Black is Eunkuk Kim ;:)
flutiste [-\]: does the video work on mac ?
Tetsunya [1d\]: and who is he?
StefanRadu [1d?\]: its still tricky. if w invades. the invaseion makes b thickness even better . and r13 still doesnt look remarcable.
bolb [-\]: yes
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;W[hs]C[flutiste [-\]: the video is full white on my browser ...
Tetsunya [1d\]: are both have account on kgs?
lemming [-\]: yes, the video works on mac...
lemming [-\]: it's not a mac vs. pc issue
liger [5k\]: you wish it worked on a mac
ZothOmmog [4k\]: h1 that big?
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;B[gr]C[Baccano [2d\]: ugh
liger [5k\]: it's big sente
StefanRadu [1d?\]: that sente
liger [5k\]: well, sente
poirette [1d\]: aw
Pyoveli [3d\]: heh
kiddai [6k?\]: ugly shape..
Tetsunya [1d\]: but thick
IGoofy [1d\]: tetris
Tetsunya [1d\]: lol
Khaos [5k\]: but necessary
ZothOmmog [4k\]: f2 anyway?
kiddai [6k?\]: lol goofy
liger [5k\]: it's pretty
liger [5k\]: nothing like a square
derp [1k\]: erased the empty triangle, must be good move
Shibui [?\]: It's square
flutiste [-\]: what kind of video is it ? flash video ?
liger [5k\]: I think so
csgo [?\]: g2 wield, f2 seems more reasonable
lemming [-\]: flash indeed
poirette [1d\]: top right next is my bet
ZothOmmog [4k\]: why is this better than f3?
Tetsunya [1d\]: keep f2 for ko threat or yose
liger [5k\]: f3 leaves bigger end game
StefanRadu [1d?\]: g7 works?.. is there someone who calculated g7?
liger [5k\]: for white....end end game
ben0 [5d\]: h6
Tetsunya [1d\]: i prefer r17 here
bobombera [9k\]: f2
lemming [-\]: did w just play h6?
Baccano [2d\]: wow
TeeSushi [2d\]: irgs
jinkidie [16k?\]: does f3 kill the square?
Baccano [2d\]: yes h6
lemming [-\]: k
holynec [?\]: O_o that is a square shape
StefanRadu [1d?\]: hurray! fight
Tetsunya [1d\]: yuo h6
liger [5k\]: there will be no killing of squares
Tetsunya [1d\]: pretty big
Darg [-\]: best shape ever
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
gornuf [19k\]: eurogo W played h6
TeeSushi [2d\]: yes
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;W[hn]C[malaczarna [4d\]: G7-H6, F7
liger [5k\]: oh snap
IGoofy [1d\]: g2 is just a wrapped ponnuki
oddalot [7k\]: g4 not dead?
holynec [?\]: like a dumpling you mean?
holynec [?\]: ;)
ZothOmmog [4k\]: maybe this is why f3 better :)
liger [5k\]: no, just heavy, but not as heavy as black's group
kukulis4 [2d\]: I wonder why black didnt play F2
Ukasuhs [1k\]: except there is a shape called the dumpling
csgo [?\]: h5, can't let g4 escape
StefanRadu [1d?\]: h5 g6 csgo
Ukasuhs [1k\]: h5 f6 
ZothOmmog [4k\]: h5 hasty
liger [5k\]: ok, maybe it's mostly dead....if black goes that route
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sound and picture ok?
malaczarna [4d\]: h5-f6
edlee [2k\]: nice view of board 2, yes :)
StefanRadu [1d?\]: and so on.b`s not solving anything if he h5.
csgo [?\]: g6
Javaness [2d\]: i'm afraid i turned off the sound
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i changed the mic
liger [5k\]: g6 doesn't seem good....to me...
csgo [?\]: h5 f6 g6
liger [5k\]: oh
StefanRadu [1d?\]: w can give up to those 4stones
ZothOmmog [4k\]: g5
malaczarna [4d\]: g7,g5 - f7
kukulis4 [2d\]: the problem is that J5 stones has not very much liberties
ZothOmmog [4k\]: g7?
StefanRadu [1d?\]: g7 looks the best.
oddalot [7k\]: white seems in control now?
csgo [?\]: b can not give up j5, too important
Javaness [2d\]: *\\o/* Go Catalin *\\o/*
liger [5k\]: I think black has to cut with his two stone group....maybe...
StefanRadu [1d?\]: b will capture those 4 stones.
poirette [1d\]: the cut is complicated...
ZothOmmog [4k\]: cut then think
csgo [?\]: b can capture g4 with some sacrifice
StefanRadu [1d?\]: he needs them in order not to remain with j4 group outside.
Ukasuhs [1k\]: how can he capture it?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: h5 cap
AURELIE46 [3d\]: H5
AURELIE46 [3d\]: smoll
csgo [?\]: b h5 should work, because of e7 stone
AURELIE46 [3d\]: H5,g6,
gabigo [10k?\]: what about h5, f6?
malaczarna [4d\]: now black should play L4 perhaps...
malaczarna [4d\]: to leave white unsupported
reilgh [3k?\]: or m3?
stefy [7k\]: black play h5
suaviento [7k\]: h5 f6 and b g6
malaczarna [4d\]: h5 is wrong
oddalot [7k\]: w + resign
ZothOmmog [4k\]: j6?
Orc [4d\]: blk M3
ZothOmmog [4k\]: m3 j6
TeeSushi [2d\]: tenuki
liger [5k\]: is white really a pro?
stefy [7k\]: black play l5
malaczarna [4d\]: L4,M3 - K7
StefanRadu [1d?\]: dude. w is 5pro
stefy [7k\]: yes
TeeSushi [2d\]: 5dan professional of nihon ki-in
edlee [2k\]: did catalin actually take the pro exam?
stefy [7k\]: w is catalin taranu from roumania
StefanRadu [1d?\]: thans you teesushi for the detailed answear.
suaviento [7k\]: L5 looks good... not tenuki!!
Baccano [2d\]: no, he got his pro title from santa
liger [5k\]: look at those muscles, he's no go player....
stefy [7k\]: ok
StefanRadu [1d?\]: no. he did not. hes 5pro by knowing a magic elf.
liger [5k\]: I see...
alfuij: what about j6
poirette [1d\]: eurogotv1, what are the times remaining on the clock please?
liger [5k\]: j6 might be good,  but white probably lives with j6
NattyIce [1k\]: j6 seems to help w to me
stefy [7k\]: black play L5
stefy [7k\]: ?
Kenjutsu [2k\]: the pro's got some huge tricep
holynec [?\]: must work out
liger [5k\]: that's what I'm saying.....
holynec [?\]: ;)
stefy [7k\]: ok
Kenjutsu [2k\]: lol
liger [5k\]: no to L5
StefanRadu [1d?\]: jees. 
Tobamf [20k?\]: white seems to be doing reasonably well this game
seppy [?\]: does taranu live off go?
suaviento [7k\]: got to be L5 or H5
liger [5k\]: those aren't the only options...
stefy [7k\]: L5
stefy [7k\]: b play L5
gabigo [10k?\]: yes he is the president of the romanian federation of go
StefanRadu [1d?\]: L5 bad.
StefanRadu [1d?\]: haha.
stefy [7k\]: ok
liger [5k\]: black will not play L5.....it's too much effort to just save two stones and abandon the white stones
stefy [7k\]: ha ha ha
StefanRadu [1d?\]: gabio.  that doesnt mean hes living of go.
suaviento [7k\]: L5!!!
stefy [7k\]: ok
seppy [?\]: i mean is he still playing pro games?
veteran [1d\]: l5 OK
suaviento [7k\]: L5!!!
seppy [?\]: *tournaments
StefanRadu [1d?\]: no. hes not playing anymore in pro tournamets. 
StefanRadu [1d?\]: hes in europe. in order to promote the go game
liger [5k\]: black has a fan!
glace [-\]: what' s about time?
stefy [7k\]: black play j6?
csgo [?\]: if b wants l5, he should j6 first
veteran [1d\]: 2 stones vital
bistrogo [3d\]: c'est le mec de plus belle la vie
seppy [?\]: ok, thx steganradu
seppy [?\]: *stefan
StefanRadu [1d?\]: welcome.
veteran [1d\]: h8 possible
liger [5k\]: white 1:38, black 1:18
glace [-\]: Thx
veteran [1d\]: but I think l5
suaviento [7k\]: L5 is likely?
suaviento [7k\]: oh thx
suaviento [7k\]: but H5 is no big mistake right?
malaczarna [4d\]: K7 is also possible (no L4,M3 exchange)
veteran [1d\]: also possible
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
suaviento [7k\]: ok thx vm
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;B[kp]C[malaczarna [4d\]: h5 is BIG mistake
liger [5k\]: wow...
]
;W[lq]C[glace [-\]: malaczarna Why?
TeeSushi [2d\]: h5 f6 would be my guess .. so h5 no good
liger [5k\]: he must have read out something with the hane
suaviento [7k\]: BIG mistake?
suaviento [7k\]: cuz of the few libs?
magners [3k\]: h5 -> g6, and so on
stefy [7k\]: black plaj7y 
malaczarna [4d\]: h5- f6
stefy [7k\]: b play j7?
poirette [1d\]: k7 seems logical now?
reilgh [3k?\]: yes
stefy [7k\]: ok
suaviento [7k\]: f6 and F6 kills no?
liger [5k\]: k7 looks good to me
maligo [4d\]: j6
Phear [-\]: i don't think the players are aloud to play on top of stones
stefy [7k\]: j7
IGoofy [1d\]: b is bruce lee
liger [5k\]: j7 gives white control, I think
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: has anybody tried the full screen option of the live TV feed?
liger [5k\]: or it leaves more forcing moves at the least
liger [5k\]: I just tried it, eurogo, works fine :)
poirette [1d\]: it works
StoneDown [?\]: EuroGoTV1: I just did. Works
liger [5k\]: very clear picture :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ok , thx
poirette [1d\]: works with firefox at least
lavi123 [-\]: yeh
rkda [7k\]: full screen works fine with safari, a bit fuzzy at that resolution though
IGoofy [1d\]: j7
liger [5k\]: I'll never use full screen outside of that, though....since I'm such a wise kibitzer, I have to share my super duper knowledge
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ok, thx rkda
liger [5k\]: oh, I tried it in chrome, for the record
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thx!
StefanRadu [1d?\]: in chroma it works.
StefanRadu [1d?\]: chrome*
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and the moving link?
liger [5k\]: yes
poirette [1d\]: works too
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and if you pay? ^^
poirette [1d\]: lol
StefanRadu [1d?\]: b starting to feel w`s powa.
liger [5k\]: send me some money and I'll test it out for you :)
ftroiset [2d\]: h7?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
brooks [1k\]: powa, you mean the tibetan method for ejecting your consciousness through the crown of your head?
ftroiset [2d\]: k7,I mean
StefanRadu [1d?\]: power mr. brooks.
Eiyuu [6k\]: J6 and keep it simple. That or K7 perhaps
Moyonnaise [?\]: brooks, Ah, so that's how he made pro...
oddalot [7k\]: b must commit seppuku if he loses
liger [5k\]: Eurogo, if you're still there....
Eiyuu [6k\]: urm...that would just be stupid. >>
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
holynec [?\]: awww eurotv is turning into membership? :[
liger [5k\]: The link works, but it's half hidden by that black box when the mouse moves near the top of the video, it's a bit akward imo
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ok, thx
krisprolls [1d\]: why not a move like h8 or j9
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, EuroGoTV will allways be free
StefanRadu [1d?\]: what happening at board nr.2?
Moyonnaise [?\]: EuroGoTV, :)
StefanRadu [1d?\]: manny ppl around it.
goholic [1d\]: it's blank, can't see anything
brooks [1k\]: wouldnt it be great if go became so mainstream popular that there were pay stations...
liger [5k\]: pay stations?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: who knows? :P
brooks [1k\]: eurogotv is free
StefanRadu [1d?\]: i guess breakfast is the main attraction today:)
lemming [-\]: I'd like it to become so popular that they can afford these fancy over-head cameras :)
liger [5k\]: the more popular it is, the less likely it is that you would have to pay.....
Hampus2 [6k\]: ok, I only saw this ("powa, you mean the tibetan method for ejecting your consciousness through the crown of your head?"), and how could I not ask..?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: tibetan stold that from aquaman
Hampus2 [6k\]: bastards
gabigo [10k?\]: where did catalin go?
liger [5k\]: I did see that they were looking at making and English dubbed, online, pay-to-watch go station
Corangar [4k\]: EuroGoTV - will you be broadcasting lectures? Or maybe uploading them to youtube?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i will upload them
oddalot [7k\]: is he watching the other game?
Hampus2 [6k\]: on what username? just Eurogotv?
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;B[jm]C[Hampus2 [6k\]: so we can find them :)
Corangar [4k\]: HW6x6 i think
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;W[hl]C[Corangar [4k\]: username
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: just look at eurogotv
IGoofy [1d\]: k7 looks soft
ben0 [5d\]: g7
liger [5k\]: there's a delay, I saw k7 on kgs seconds before the video
ZothOmmog [4k\]: g7
oddalot [7k\]: it's hw9x9
Kenjutsu [2k\]: hahahaha, the korean dude took like 20 mins
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i will start uploading tomorrow
Kenjutsu [2k\]: play one move
Kenjutsu [2k\]: the pro came back
Corangar [4k\]: ah yes :D hw9x9 :D
Orc [4d\]: blk seems behind
Kenjutsu [2k\]: took a look
Kenjutsu [2k\]: and played immediately
oddalot [7k\]: lol, that is kinda rude if you aske me
liger [5k\]: no way
lemming [-\]: w has a plan :)
StefanRadu [1d?\]: no. that means he has done his calcules before 
liger [5k\]: It just means he read before, or simply didn't have a lot of options, in his mind
tomash [3k?\]: he had plenty of time to read it...
tomash [3k?\]: k7 was pretty obvious
oddalot [7k\]: or, that means, hey, even if i make a mistake because i didn't think hard enough, i will still win
StefanRadu [1d?\]: w suddenly looks better to me.
StefanRadu [1d?\]: :)
gornuf [19k\]: how much time is remaining for both of them?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W 137  B 101
gornuf [19k\]: thank you
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 1.37 1.01
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;B[ph]
;W[qh]C[Babibo [1d\]: what is the total thinking time ? 
lemming [-\]: 150 min
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 2.30
Babibo [1d\]: thx
lemming [-\]: OH NOES
lemming [-\]: unholy cigarettes
Babibo [1d\]: same for low dans, euro ? 
lemming [-\]: do want
oddalot [7k\]: dude, he's bumming cigs
Orc [4d\]: is it allowed to smake ?
liger [5k\]: he's thinking about taking back his move since no one is watching
just9x9 [-\]: lol
gabigo [10k?\]: :))
lemming [-\]: xD
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;B[pj]
;W[pi]
;B[oi]
;W[qi]
;B[pk]C[Orc [4d\]: blk J9 will work later
ben0 [5d\]: h10 big for both
snowman [-\]: black is trying to make territory from the thickness
snowman [-\]: a korean specialty
StefanRadu [1d?\]: q14?
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;W[oh]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: scary
lemming [-\]: btw. I've never heard of black's name. who is he?
StefanRadu [1d?\]: better like this i agree^^
gelda [2k\]: b h5 is small ?
CaesarJMD [3k\]: h5 doesnt work
gelda [2k\]: howw?
liger [5k\]: it doesn't seem to favorable for black
Kenjutsu [2k\]: i do feel bad for black tho
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;B[nh]C[lemming [-\]: I predict headbutt :)
liger [5k\]: h5 f6 
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;W[og]
;B[hj]C[Kenjutsu [2k\]: the pro's like sick, keeps coughing infront of him
Javaness [2d\]: I hope black suffers a terrible defeat
StefanRadu [1d?\]: Boshi.
AURELIE46 [3d\]: dada
Mikki62 [2k\]: omg
liger [5k\]: w+0.5
lemming [-\]: it's the smoking, upsets the lungs
Javaness [2d\]: pain
oddalot [7k\]: he's not suck, he's a smoker
Kenjutsu [2k\]: lol
liger [5k\]: except komi is 8
OneLuck [2d\]: catalin smokes?
StefanRadu [1d?\]: yeah.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
OneLuck [2d\]: uuh
Kenjutsu [2k\]: but like he is sniffing too
oddalot [7k\]: i hear cigs are like 8 dollars a pack in europ
OneLuck [2d\]: he has been smoking all his life?
StefanRadu [1d?\]: and he will live there..  ive seen him win a game from worst situations.
Kenjutsu [2k\]: looks like running nose
snowman [-\]: swine flu?
StefanRadu [1d?\]: cigs are like 3dol here.
Elendar [1d\]: around 8$ in france
CaesarJMD [3k\]: 4 in germany
lemming [-\]: I say it's tar from smoking
StefanRadu [1d?\]: yay. im smoking cheap.:P
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
lemming [-\]: how to escape?
oddalot [7k\]: j9?
liger [5k\]: i just realized....go conventions must be really boring....in real life...
kiddai [6k?\]: use lemmings to do the job
lemming [-\]: we failed, next idea
kiddai [6k?\]: :)
Javaness [2d\]: Go congress are great fun
oddalot [7k\]: dude, there are all those late night parties though, i bet they get crazy
liger [5k\]: do they get a little louder?  so much reverant silence....I would go crazy
StefanRadu [1d?\]: yeah. i bet you can see there pros doin lambada
lemming [-\]: yeah 3 dudes - 1 chick - atari dancin!
StefanRadu [1d?\]: :))
Pot [3k\]: my god..
Javaness [2d\]: ...
liger [5k\]: that is funny :)
OneLuck [2d\]: hmm only 3 guys. around the corner push?
OneLuck [2d\]: big **** I guess
Pyoveli [3d\]: crazy party at egc 2008: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Home&log=speelaf&id=VhJkNy37pUI
StefanRadu [1d?\]: id send w troops in the upper corner as soon as i feel im safe in the center.
liger [5k\]: so it's been a while since we've mentioned the game....where for white?
Javaness [2d\]: hard to say
tsuchigumo [-\]: difficult for w here imo
Javaness [2d\]: I have no idea where to play
Baccano [2d\]: long way before w feels safe in the center
Baccano [2d\]: black is too thick around
Javaness [2d\]: probably touch something
OneLuck [2d\]: J9 of course
oddalot [7k\]: j9 or k8?
Mukti [4d\]: It looks like the game hase bolied down to: white lives he wins...no way b can win on territory otherwise.
lemming [-\]: j9 looks like it all dies to me ^^;
liger [5k\]: might it be worth sacrificing these stones for a reduction?
Javaness [2d\]: I bet on K8
holynec [?\]: invested 2 moves on it already liger
Mukti [4d\]: usually, if the only need is to safve a group, it should work, but how on earth is w going to save this group?
Orc [4d\]: white is nearly dead
holynec [?\]: if he wanted a reduction, might've done that h8 and h6 ago :p
reilgh [3k?\]: n5?
StefanRadu [1d?\]: yes. thats urgent!
oddalot [7k\]: w will win
liger [5k\]: Even pros make mistakes, his timing for p12 might have been one?
OneLuck [2d\]: seems like black wins easily
Baccano [2d\]: p12 was necessary
Orc [4d\]: the problem is H6, its too early maybe
liger [5k\]: white couldn't have worked with h10 (or anything in that area) rather than p12?
just9x9 [-\]: how does b punish tenuki Baccano?
dfer: H6 maybe a bit overplay
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;W[jl]C[kiddai [6k?\]: oh he moved k8 afterall
Baccano [2d\]: Orc is right, to fix shape on right side before was probably better
lemming [-\]: hooo
oddalot [7k\]: it's offically "on"
lemming [-\]: just got real! :)
Baccano [2d\]: forget this, not "better" but "reasonable"
just9x9 [-\]: still wondering about b?s continuation locally if w doesnt p12...
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;B[im]
;W[il]
;B[hm]
;W[gm]C[just9x9 [-\]: just q13?
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;B[gl]
;W[gk]
;B[fl]
;W[km]C[Yanwangye [-\]: Eurogo ... why is the goban not shown from the hig, why from the side ??
Hanne [3k\]: g6 
kuk [6k\]: good
just9x9 [-\]: oh,sac to have a presence in the center
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;B[kn]
;W[ln]C[gabigo [10k?\]: uuu big crowd
OneLuck [2d\]: ooh guo juan watching
liger [5k\]: which one is she?
kilp: l8
oddalot [7k\]: the woman?
OneLuck [2d\]: the small one
Sakeus [-\]: haha :)
IamLucifer [1d\]: hehe
tomash [3k?\]: she's at z1
Sakeus [-\]: what rank she have?
StefanRadu [1d?\]: 5p
Sakeus [-\]: same as catalin :)
Lepenski [1k\]: good move
StefanRadu [1d?\]: yeah
liger [5k\]: I just thought that woman looked different from pictures, that maybe she was hiding behind someone :)
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;B[kl]
;W[lm]
;B[jk]C[Korea4K [2d\]: b is m
lemming [-\]: nom nom nom
OneLuck [2d\]: does the board automatically send the moves here?
lemming [-\]: no
Sakeus [-\]: haha
Sakeus [-\]: hahaha
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;W[kk]C[IamLucifer [1d\]: moan
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: special wood censors
StefanRadu [1d?\]: k6 h5
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;B[ll]C[OneLuck [2d\]: ok so they use the old man power
Yanwangye [-\]: Yanwangye [-\]: Eurogo ... why is the goban not shown from the hig, why from the side ??
bolb [-\]: in Japan you can find this type of goban
tsuchigumo [-\]: what is w doing?
liger [5k\]: this is good stuff....
Korea4K [2d\]: b+ resign
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: because we want to see the players faces
hylie [4d\]: the wooden radars of galactica
spherical [-\]: yanwang, because you can see the board from above on kgs?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the position you can see here on KGS
StoneDown [?\]: OneLuck: Yes. The board's are so thick to have enough room foor 361 switches
Yanwangye [-\]: hmm ok 
kiddai [6k?\]: that'd be cool if it was like that ^^
OneLuck [2d\]: stone this is comman in chess
Sakeus [-\]: umm
oddalot [7k\]: w has lost?
Kenjutsu [2k\]: can try j10
Kenjutsu [2k\]: lol
liger [5k\]: people slide their stones in Go, though
Sakeus [-\]: yes that is true :)
snowman [-\]: there's no stylish way to come out
snowman [-\]: and the sacrifice might be bigger than intended
Sakeus [-\]: sliding make that electronic board crazy :)
OneLuck [2d\]: lol they are playing a kitchen
OneLuck [2d\]: in
Sakeus [-\]: yea:)
IGoofy [1d\]: better than in the toilets
Sakeus [-\]: :)
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;W[jj]C[OneLuck [2d\]: go to the bathroom. I am sure there are lost players playing there too.
snowman [-\]: did you mean bc card cup
]
;B[ik]C[liger [5k\]: I would use the microwave to make some popcorn while my oponent pondered his next move
Sakeus [-\]: I dont know where are they playing but I thing that is some office place :) 
oddalot [7k\]: oh, i think this works
]
;W[hk]
;B[ij]
;W[gj]
;B[gi]
;W[hi]
;B[ii]
;W[fi]
;B[hh]
;W[fj]C[bistrogo [3d\]: eurogotv could you ask the spectator just behind catalin if he is virgil bayle?
Kenjutsu [2k\]: but gave up too much for b, white was like shaking his head a bit
OneLuck [2d\]: micropop sucks
gornuf [19k\]: turn the camera bck plz
Orc [4d\]: Hmm not great result for white
Baccano [2d\]: now white 3 libs, black has to defend j6
liger [5k\]: Look at that huge cloth poster
Orc [4d\]: blk just need G6
liger [5k\]: not on screen anymoe
gornuf [19k\]: thx
tsuchigumo [-\]: if i was w I would take lunch before this goes any further
Orc [4d\]: F12 and then F13 will be painful for white later
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;B[gn]C[lemming [-\]: ok so now most important move :)
Icare [1d\]: r17
Pyoveli [3d\]: "black punishes white and white has no good answer"
OneLuck [2d\]: k12
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Javaness [2d\]: *\\o/* Go Catalin *\\o/*
Sakeus [-\]: n5
OneLuck [2d\]: ok k12 does not work
Sakeus [-\]: :)
tsuchigumo [-\]: if I was w I'd take lunch and recompose myself
OneLuck [2d\]: q17
photios [1d\]: p13
Fredrik [-\]: w is feeling pretty good now
Pyoveli [3d\]: I'd resign and go for a pint
tsuchigumo [-\]: can seal k6
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;W[ko]C[deft [3d\]: really? I think W is not looking good
Fredrik [-\]: escaped a crisis in sente
Fredrik [-\]: i think w is ahead
Pylon [2k\]: artem, why dont you participate?
Fredrik [-\]: center is too thin, not much pts
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;B[jo]
;W[jn]C[Fredrik [-\]: upperright still open
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;B[in]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: I agree game not over, but now is the time to take stock
snowman [-\]: the center position is really hard to estimate
Orc [4d\]: O13 is huge move for both
Fredrik [-\]: yes o13 is huge
Javaness [2d\]: white gote here though?
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;W[lp]C[OneLuck [2d\]: oooh
Fredrik [-\]: hmm
Javaness [2d\]: i am not liking this
Fredrik [-\]: i would have played o13
Orc [4d\]: blk o13, very hard for white
Fredrik [-\]: i guess catalin is optimistic about his position
Javaness [2d\]: well his opponent is weak
Javaness [2d\]: *cough*
lemming [-\]: who is his opp. anyways?
OneLuck [2d\]: b+46
oddalot [7k\]: catalin is weak in yose, he always says that
Sakeus [-\]: blac will defend around o5 :)
deft [3d\]: N10 looks like a vital point for W
arcades [3k\]: what is yose?
Javaness [2d\]: I heard Catalin was promoted to 5p over his yose skills
deft [3d\]: then either N8 or P10 will be severe
ZothOmmog [4k\]: o13?
Orc [4d\]: O13 is nearly sente
oddalot [7k\]: well...he thinks he is weak at least
OneLuck [2d\]: what does black have+
deft [3d\]: yeah, B must O13
just9x9 [-\]: yose=endgame
oddalot [7k\]: yose is end game, or it means when all the main groups on the board are settled
Baccano [2d\]: I wonder if there's a rank when you finally feel strong
liger [5k\]: after black o13, then white.....n8?
Sakeus [-\]: if he is yose skiller then its not end yet
arcades [3k\]: ok, thx
tsuchigumo [-\]: Honorary Honinbo probably
OneLuck [2d\]: no bacca
oddalot [7k\]: in all the youtube videos, he claims to be weak in yose
just9x9 [-\]: nah, as honorary honinbo u feel weak as u are getting old id say
gongo [5k\]: why then say yose?, if endgame is a crystal clear term?
oddalot [7k\]: because endgame is not what yose means in the strictest terms
deft [3d\]: yose is one syllable shorter
just9x9 [-\]: yose is as crystal clear, just another language
djaffar [13k\]: someone wrote that B is punishing white
liger [5k\]: some yose can happen before mid game starts :)
djaffar [13k\]: i see  white as winner
tsuchigumo [-\]: Actually it isproven that a person's belief in his competence in any area is inversely proportionate to his actual competence
Warfreak2 [5d\]: go catalin
Sakeus [-\]: :)
ZothOmmog [4k\]: yose rhymes with gross?
gornuf [19k\]: w=resign
liger [5k\]: I don't htink that's proven, tsuchigumo
Javaness [2d\]: Catalin is certainly doing better than the Magic of Go yesterday
tsuchigumo [-\]: Yes, many studies
photios [1d\]: yose is pronounced yo-sae
liger [5k\]: I think it's the opposite....
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;B[oe]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: The weaker you are the more you  overestimate your competence
Javaness [2d\]: O13 now?
photios [1d\]: so i does not rhyme with gross
veteran [1d\]: yo se 2 syllables ZothOmmog
just9x9 [-\]: lol liger that might be an explanation why you are 5k ;)
deft [3d\]: after many many thinking...
liger [5k\]: weak players aren't that confident, pro often say if you want to win you have to have confidence, that it's really important
holynec [?\]: is board 3 in the same room, Eurogotv1?
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;W[ni]
;B[oj]C[Prodigious [5d?\]: I'm confident in my own weakness
tsuchigumo [-\]: Called the "Henderson-something" theory if my memory syerves me
Fuzzi [5d?\]: Confidence is probably a bell shaped thing, centered around 3d ;)
StoneDown [?\]: board 3 is in different room next door
magners [3k\]: social sciences... are a bit too vague for my taste
tsuchigumo [-\]: Demonstrated every day on KGS kibbitz
Orc [4d\]: blk around 80 points now on board
]
;W[ng]C[liger [5k\]: the oposite is demonstrated on kibbitz, I think, tsuchigumo
Orc [4d\]: blk 80 points, white less than 60
tsuchigumo [-\]: You prove my point :)
Javaness [2d\]: E11 looks annoying
holynec [?\]: i love kibitz
holynec [?\]: i think id leave kgs if it were removed
Baccano [2d\]: I think f12 better than e11
oddalot [7k\]: how is catalin going to do it?
jinkidie [16k?\]: so... j6 group is dead like doornail?
kilp: e11 f12 then what's annoying ?
holynec [?\]: and then rot away, kibitzing on igs
oddalot [7k\]: i just don't see the points
GoIsBoring [1d\]: i think go is boring
liger [5k\]: weak players like me give our opinions, but that doesn't mean we think we know, and if a high dan disagrees with us, we're more likely to look at it from his perspective.  On the other hand, stronger players have been proven to many times disregard someone for his rank rather than idea.....not always, but often
Sakeus [-\]: boring 
oddalot [7k\]: well said
Sakeus [-\]: ...
Mukti [4d\]: well put, liger
snowman [-\]: kibitzer's lament
putanmihai [14k?\]: catalin just went for a smoke lol
oddalot [7k\]: yeah, chick fila is about to open
Sakeus [-\]: :)
gongo [5k\]: good , liger
holynec [?\]: and the room is filling up
tsuchigumo [-\]: Bad timing from Catalan. needed the snout half an hour ago
Mukti [4d\]: chic fila?
Orc [4d\]: could it be that 2 pros both lose today?
magners [3k\]: are they allowed other mental enhancers... after all they're in holland
Onmyoji [2d\]: i guess w needs 2 handi
Mukti [4d\]: w still seems OK to me.
Sakeus [-\]: :)
oddalot [7k\]: chick-fil-a
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;B[fh]C[OneLuck [2d\]: western pros are weak
jinkidie [16k?\]: jeez so close... starting with k4...
deft [3d\]: ... no need to be rude, Onmyoji
ZothOmmog [4k\]: f12 it is
Mukti [4d\]: still no clue, oddalot :-)
StefanRadu [1d?\]: w cant risk to play that ko
benzema: What is the prize of this tournament?
oddalot [7k\]: it's a chicken fast food restaurant
Warfreak2 [5d\]: liger, [i am not a strong player by the way, but\] i don't disregard people for their rank, what i tend to see though, is that i make a comment, a weaker player will simply contradict me without giving any reasoning, and then when i tell him there's no point contradicting me without giving your reasoning, he complains that i disregard him for his rank
watergun [-\]: don't be too hard on them. western pro are not as strong..
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 1rst price 5000 euro
Mukti [4d\]: ah, Ok, thx
watergun [-\]: pros*
Onmyoji [2d\]: stop writing those novels
Warfreak2 [5d\]: catalin is 5p
OneLuck [2d\]: ooh 5000 euros? hmm has it always been so big?
StefanRadu [1d?\]: "wester 5pro"
Javaness [2d\]: Japanese 5p
StefanRadu [1d?\]: western*
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, becuase of tea
oddalot [7k\]: quick, the topic is existentialism...explain..
Warfreak2 [5d\]: western pros may be promoted to 1p without being as strong as other 1p, but not to 5p
tsuchigumo [-\]: Catalan earned his 5p the hard way, in the Oteai
jinkidie [16k?\]: k there are 2 basic kinds of existence, relative and inherent...
holynec [?\]: Catalan is one of the few who earned it
]
;W[ei]C[Javaness [2d\]: Catalin was never promoted for favouritism
]
;B[pf]
;W[pg]C[photios [1d\]: Catalin never cries
photios [1d\]: Catalin is always good
Javaness [2d\]: that's not true
photios [1d\]: :))
liger [5k\]: Warfreak2...I understand what you're saying, but I think what I was saying happens more often.  I'll always give my ideas if I disagree :)  What I'm drawing from is also batthousai's experience (he's 6dan I think) of kibbitzing as a 10k
bilbotarra [?\]: Catalin is like Chuck Norris?
StefanRadu [1d?\]: yeah. i thought its rather japanese . 5 pro under Sensei Saijo 9 pro still called "wester pro".  well said watergun:) youre earning respect here.\\
photios [1d\]: i was just continuing the list of Catalin's attributes
Javaness [2d\]: He reviewed a game at my tournament, he broke down in tears at what we did
oddalot [7k\]: hey it's like a b2 bomber with the middle missing
StefanRadu [1d?\]: western*
holynec [?\]: he did java?!
photios [1d\]: exactly
Javaness [2d\]: not really
holynec [?\]: did you get a video
holynec [?\]: oh :[
photios [1d\]: Catalin is like Chuck Norris
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;B[ga]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: liger, well, i know that what you're describing occurs, but i don't see it all too often
bilbotarra [?\]: cool
Javaness [2d\]: ignore?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: declaration of victory
reilgh [3k?\]: yes!
photios [1d\]: no, Chuck Norris is like Catalin :[
photios [1d\]: :P
Sakeus [-\]: :)
Sakeus [-\]: well said
Warfreak2 [5d\]: 99% of kibbitz, by whatever rank, tends to be wrong, so it's a safe bet that you can say someone is wrong and be correct about it
timloupuce [5k\]: catalin res?
Orc [4d\]: white N12 becomes very uninteresting now
Pylon [2k\]: g19 really feels like a declaration of victory ^^
deft [3d\]: W still has some things to try
deft [3d\]: L16 comes to mind...
jinkidie [16k?\]: aw heck even I do better than 99% wrong
brooks [1k\]: then there is a 99% chance that person who says another person is wrong is wrong
Javaness [2d\]: I thought K15
twold [2k\]: sorry if it was already discussed, but who is this b? some new korean exinsei?
Sakeus [-\]: L14
OneLuck [2d\]: how big is g19?
Javaness [2d\]: b is a tourist
Sakeus [-\]: :)
Javaness [2d\]: over to play the EGC
Pylon [2k\]: cash hunter
lemming [-\]: just walked in, thought it would be fun to win this thing :)
Elendar [1d\]: around 12 pts OneLuck
Kaisai [3k\]: black was in holland for a tulip exhibition and accidently ended up at the egr
Pylon [2k\]: :)
chicane [2k\]: Catalin drunk 2 cokes?
fcarbon [2k\]: i white really still ok?
oddalot [7k\]: So in korea 7d amateures are like a dime a dozen i'm guessting
Javaness [2d\]: is coca cola sponsoring Catalin?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
Sakeus [-\]: :)
putanmihai [14k?\]: lol
photios [1d\]: Caatlin is sponsoring Coca Cola :))
Sakeus [-\]: :))
oddalot [7k\]: smokes and two cokes...not healthy image for the kids
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
just9x9 [-\]: being korean, b just uses his natural born go instinct. nothing to do for the european pros here :P
OneLuck [2d\]: so what was the first price last year?
Reym: is b lee sedol anonymous with his wig?
Elendar [1d\]: european pros?
holynec [?\]: cant wait to see sedol in 2011
oddalot [7k\]: don't see how a 7d can bet a 5p?
lemming [-\]: the old  dude owns the room atm with glowing beard of glory
holynec [?\]: gonna come out and take all the titles
liger [5k\]: white doesn't look ok...
Lepenski [1k\]: wn12
Bheeshma [4k\]: 7 dan is korean.. 5p is european :)
Sakeus [-\]: everyone have bad day :)
deft [3d\]: 7d is max. amateur rank
just9x9 [-\]: romania belongs to europe i thought? and russia as well, at least in part?
Javaness [2d\]: black has too much cash
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
sefil3k [2k\]: b player looks like a soccer player O_0
deft [3d\]: it can be any strength
photios [1d\]: Romania is member of the EU, helllooooooooo!!!!!
photios [1d\]: :)
Sakeus [-\]: ok but catalin is Japan 5p
MateiPetre [2d\]: Romania belongs to Africa
Sakeus [-\]: i think :)
MateiPetre [2d\]: :)
oddalot [7k\]: korea or japan is stronger?
lemming [-\]: romania is an island
photios [1d\]: :))
Orc [4d\]: how is Catalin promoted from 1P to 5P? by matches?
sefil3k [2k\]: my girlfriend is romanian ^^
Sakeus [-\]: korea maybe
deft [3d\]: yes, Orc
ZothOmmog [4k\]: f13?
Onmyoji [2d\]: b leads 20+
Sakeus [-\]: omg romania is europe :)
just9x9 [-\]: catalin by playing, afaik
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: allmost 200 viewers on EuroGoTV
photios [1d\]: lemming, that would mean that i could go swimming right now :)
IGoofy [1d\]: dracula lives in romania
AntiAdmin [1d?\]: Korea of course, not maybe
Sakeus [-\]: yes
Orc [4d\]: then Catalin should have the proper strength of jap 5p
lemming [-\]: ROmania - euROpe 
Baccano [2d\]: oh that's Simon in the background?
sfrex [2k\]: b leads 20 by 2d
lemming [-\]: coincidence? I think not!
donzet [?\]: help eurogotv
donzet [?\]: become vip
Orc [4d\]: white is behind by around 12-15 points
sefil3k [2k\]: guo juan is in da house y'all
liger [5k\]: black wins by a lot I think
lemming [-\]: *doesthewave*
deft [3d\]: I count B 10pt ahead on the board
veteran [1d\]: time for a probe
Naturalee [11k\]: How much time remaining for each player ?
gabigo [10k?\]: euro how is the time?
sefil3k [2k\]: who is this pink panths guy?
deft [3d\]: but W has komi so it's not really a huge difference
veteran [1d\]: r17?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W 1.04  B 0.40
gabigo [10k?\]: thx
Javaness [2d\]: Catalin stopped playing for a few years
PooH [5k\]: result is quite clear?
OneLuck [2d\]: are not koreans supposed to play with uber speed?
Elendar [1d\]: O.o
veteran [1d\]: game still up for grabs
Lino [1d\]: this one is high so hes slower
Elendar [1d\]: koreans =/= blitz
oddalot [7k\]: maybe catalin is just super super fast
Elendar [1d\]: '.'
photios [1d\]: the pink trousers guy is Anonimo Loseriani an italian 2p
deft [3d\]: only one small mistake needed and the lead can change
just9x9 [-\]: korean tourists enjoy their tme, they dont play speedy ;)
donzet [?\]: popic looks to have a winner face
fcarbon [2k\]: + some bad aji in r6 group?
stefy [7k\]: wat`s have  points black,eurogotv1?
Orc [4d\]: catalin is thinking deeply
liger [5k\]: can white git in a corner invasion?
Javaness [2d\]: popic power
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;W[ml]C[donzet [?\]: pop always optimistic 
Ninjan [6k\]: I wonder what gracious move catalin is thinking about
sefil3k [2k\]: an italian 2p ? seriously?
flutiste [-\]: catalin is counting ^^
dfer: where are pairings from the 3 round
donzet [?\]: and very lucky
holynec [?\]: what, italian 2p?!?
photios [1d\]: :))
Onmyoji [2d\]: its milanmilan?
photios [1d\]: look at his name
OneLuck [2d\]: I think more like 3p
photios [1d\]: Anonimo Loseriani
holynec [?\]: since when was there an italian professional
sefil3k [2k\]: i thought he is a singer :P
Javaness [2d\]: gullible hour
putanmihai [14k?\]: :))
photios [1d\]: it ws a joke
holynec [?\]: its 4:30am
holynec [?\]: cut me some slack, please
Javaness [2d\]: holynec, go to bed
sefil3k [2k\]: it's 4:29 NW Usa
Sakeus [-\]: 1:30 pm :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 202 live V viewers!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: TV viewers
IGoofy [1d\]: grandpa is watching you
holynec [?\]: im gonna smack you sefil3k
Hezihuol [14k?\]: 1:30 for french
deft [3d\]: W is looking to get S10 and S5 in sente after building thickness in the center with N8 M9 M10?
liger [5k\]: If blackdoesn't play m9 ....where might he go?
Orc [4d\]: grandpas
sefil3k [2k\]: for what?
Sakeus [-\]: 1:30 pm for Czech :)
IGoofy [1d\]: nice to see also old people are interested in go
Sakeus [-\]: korean go masters :)
oddalot [7k\]: b is really far ahead
OneLuck [2d\]: white looooosing
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;B[mf]C[Sakeus [-\]: ooo
flutiste [-\]: it was the move I considered 
jinkidie [16k?\]: yow
harlej9 [2k\]: is Kim the gay in red TShirt?
stefy [7k\]: ooooooooo
stefy [7k\]: o
stefy [7k\]: ooo
stefy [7k\]: o
stefy [7k\]: oooo
flutiste [-\]: !!!!!!!!
stefy [7k\]: ooo
stefy [7k\]: o
stefy [7k\]: o
Hezihuol [14k?\]: ooo
chicane [2k\]: omg stefy is back
Baccano [2d\]: plz resign move? O_o
flutiste [-\]: lol
Jadeite [?\]: stefy
Javaness [2d\]: never flood
Ninjan [6k\]: its big
Onmyoji [2d\]: b jus wants secure his victory
Sakeus [-\]: yea
oddalot [7k\]: hey baby
photios [1d\]: stefy is 10 years old
dfer: S9 in sente then G14 for white and white not bad
Orc [4d\]: if white cant make something out of R6 grp, then the game is ended
lemming [-\]: will be 20 when allowed back in ;)
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;W[lg]C[sefil3k [2k\]: dude this is Sparta!
holynec [?\]: *smacks sefil3k*
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: white still has r17
sefil3k [2k\]: probably i should change my name to Sefil2k :P
iskarel [?\]: .
holynec [?\]: just 7 more mins and ill sleep ;)
gornuf [19k\]: Dude for Narnia!
Javaness [2d\]: R17 won't live now
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it will
Sakeus [-\]: for the horde
Orc [4d\]: R17 is just giving away points
Javaness [2d\]: R17 S17
liger [5k\]: G14 seems good, I didn't see that 
harlej9 [2k\]: they play on a nice kaya board...:)
ibd [9k?\]: my life for hire
Orc [4d\]: R17 S16
sefil3k [2k\]: s16 better
photios [1d\]: for the king
sefil3k [2k\]: s17 lets cross cut imho
photios [1d\]: your wish is my command
Orc [4d\]: white S16 might get something
Sakeus [-\]: for the catalin
chicane [2k\]: blach shape in the upper right corner is strange, I think this is no so effective
tyranocif [4k\]: for me K13 seems really not bad
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;B[lf]
;W[re]
;B[rd]
;W[qe]
;B[pe]C[liger [5k\]: video is way behind for me....usually it's the other way around
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;W[kg]C[Sakeus [-\]: :)
Larrave [3k\]: where is link
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Conceptryn [1d\]: video don't even seem to laod properly for me...
Larrave [3k\]: thx
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;B[hg]C[Conceptryn [1d\]: its just paused
sfrex [2k\]: me 2
sfrex [2k\]: nothing shows
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: refrsh the page
liger [5k\]: works for me
Ninjan [6k\]: I feel sorry for white
Conceptryn [1d\]: so black was just randomly going to EUrope right?
fcarbon [2k\]: maybe w is not so bad as everybody here presumes?
liger [5k\]: I don't see how black can lose now....
Kounkychan [5k\]: live tv wont work for me ^^^
Ninjan [6k\]: We are too weak to understand the game maybe
Ninjan [6k\]: live tv works fine
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: why not Kounkychan?
liger [5k\]: g14 
Conceptryn [1d\]: dun work for me either =\\
Conceptryn [1d\]: black screen
Conceptryn [1d\]: even with reload
Kounkychan [5k\]: dont know only black screen
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;W[rl]C[Conceptryn [1d\]: dun think its my connection, stream toher movies fine
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you have flah installed?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: flas
Rossco [4k\]: wonder what would've happened with s7
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: flash
Kounkychan [5k\]: sure do
liger [5k\]: lol
Kounkychan [5k\]: but iam at school and dont have the rights to check things out :(
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: linux or windows?'
jamt [?\]: did you try the browsers reload or just the feeds button? I had black screen for a while but reloading the entire page solved it
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ah, ok
Conceptryn [1d\]: windows here
Kounkychan [5k\]: me to
liger [5k\]: s7 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i think it must be a securety thing
oddalot [7k\]: w slowly coming back
Rossco [4k\]: not really
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if you find a solution [ls let me know so we can help other people with the same problem
oddalot [7k\]: well that's what SE says
Onmyoji [2d\]: a
oddalot [7k\]: do you dare question the mightly SE?
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;B[rm]
;W[rk]C[StoneDown [?\]: gnugo --score estimate /tmp/EuroGoTV1.sgf
StoneDown [?\]: Black wins by 1.4 points 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if white can capture p11-q3 then...
liger [5k\]: lol....4
Sakeus [-\]: can B do something with M8?
gabigo [10k?\]: how about w f2 he get 5 moku?
Mizuti [8k\]: w f14 ?
stalkor [4k\]: eurogotv, how much time is left?
holynec [?\]: are we gonna need a 3rd coke soon?
ibd [9k?\]: n12
Ekibyo [17k?\]: xD
Larrave [3k\]: i guess
Larrave [3k\]: white gonna fail due to too much sugar^^
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;B[sr]C[Sakeus [-\]: umm
holynec [?\]: maybe he needs it to stay focused
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;W[sq]C[Orc [4d\]: nice move
Sakeus [-\]: i can drink while game :)
tsuchigumo [-\]: Fancy yose
Sakeus [-\]: I cant
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;B[sp]C[jayjolin [1k\]: so nice~~
holynec [?\]: lol s1
holynec [?\]: yikes
Sakeus [-\]: coca cola make me going on toilet every 5 minutes :)
Orc [4d\]: T2 pro's tesuji
Warfreak2 [5d\]: why t2 first?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: oh he's trying to live
Orc [4d\]: after T2, T4 becomes sente
glace [-\]: Is sente
Warfreak2 [5d\]: not if white plays r1 in response to t2, orc
glace [-\]: s1 black ^^
glace [-\]: Very nice move
Warfreak2 [5d\]: if white will play t3 in response to t2 then t4 itself would be sente
twold [2k\]: poor man's sente ^^
twold [2k\]: but nice
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;W[pm]C[glace [-\]: Wow
Orc [4d\]: but R1 is obvious loss of point, T2 is still nice 
oddalot [7k\]: pwnt
CsehAndrei [3k\]: t4 sente?
chicane [2k\]: p7?
Mizuti [8k\]: no but if w don't answer there's a ko battle
Sakeus [-\]: q 7 looks good
hanen [-\]: i thought s1 would be ko?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: then t4 is sente since you allow t2 which gives you the same loss of points
Manudu92 [2k\]: SENTE OR BIG KO
fcarbon [2k\]: apparently t4 isn't sente ...
jayjolin [1k\]: ..................
IGoofy [1d\]: who said t4 sente ?
Ekibyo [17k?\]: lol he is going to toilet xD
Sakeus [-\]: going or coca cola :)
liger [5k\]: white is behind so he has to live dangerously
stalkor [4k\]: the peep is bigger
Ekibyo [17k?\]: maybe that xD
donzet [?\]: probaly a tea cup
Orc [4d\]: warfreak read the "endgame dictionary", T2 is typical nice move in this situation, if life and death not involved
v5 [3k\]: how much time do they have left?
Email [3k\]: is w a pro? :o
holynec [?\]: is that dictionary an easy read?
Orc [4d\]: not too hard
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
maniprad [14k\]: yes 
maniprad [14k\]: 5 dan pro
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;B[pn]C[chicane [2k\]: r u blind email?
mariachi: EuroGoTV , how many time left for both?
holynec [?\]: my yose is very weak :k
Email [3k\]: yeah :)
Javaness [2d\]: white is a professional
holynec [?\]: what year was it printed orc?
aressor [?\]: black must have sth to luse
Conceptryn [1d\]: mmm
stalkor [4k\]: @eurogotv, how much time is left?
Conceptryn [1d\]: white does have more ko threats
Orc [4d\]: last chance for white is to kill this grp
Conceptryn [1d\]: don't think this group will die
Conceptryn [1d\]: but white can profit by getting Q-9
Conceptryn [1d\]: group
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;W[om]C[holynec [?\]: orc, how old is that book
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;B[qm]C[Conceptryn [1d\]: tho is that enough :P
Ekibyo [17k?\]: he is back
Icare [1d\]: S5
Ekibyo [17k?\]: but not with a coke :(
aressor [?\]: black is going to die
Orc [4d\]: hmm, I have a chinese version but not sure if there is english one
tomasinski [2k\]: s5?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: s5 i guess
aressor [?\]: s5
maligo [4d\]: ko s1
IGoofy [1d\]: sure
holynec [?\]: do you play dota orc
Orc [4d\]: white S5, blk starts the ko
holynec [?\]: i see ashes to ashes
copyright [2d\]: s5 
Conceptryn [1d\]: mmm
Orc [4d\]: no holynec
Conceptryn [1d\]: s=black living dangeous
Conceptryn [1d\]: lots of threats J5
Conceptryn [1d\]: area
liger [5k\]: how does s5 work?
Conceptryn [1d\]: but black has many many local threats tooo
Warfreak2 [5d\]: s5 prevents eye at r4
IGoofy [1d\]: squeeze out r4 eye
Ninjan [6k\]: what was the link to eurogotv again?
oddalot [7k\]: s5 r5 no?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
liger [5k\]: oh....simple....I see :)
Javaness [2d\]: Here comes the night
Warfreak2 [5d\]: then t5
Warfreak2 [5d\]: here comes the sun - the brightest star of them all
oddalot [7k\]: ohyeah heh
hanen [-\]: that guy clearing his throat, is bugging me
Orc [4d\]: white S5, blk S1, then if white lose the ko, S5 becomes useless move
misha91 [2d\]: s5 
delperier [4k\]: YES T5
Javaness [2d\]: P5 still there for a 3 eye
watergun [-\]: buy catalin a coke.. hehe..
Conceptryn [1d\]: white needs to fight this ko to win...
misha91 [2d\]: p5 
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;W[ro]C[liger [5k\]: all that time spent thinking was probably just looking for any other option
ZeroCool [3k\]: i just hope that ko in the corner won't become a life and death ko for b. that would be too ironic ;)
Hanne [3k\]: sun may be brightest but is definitely not most luminous
awers [2d\]: s1 - ko
sfrex [2k\]: but its
Conceptryn [1d\]: kp time
Orc [4d\]: blk has lots of local threat
reilgh [3k?\]: white ko treats are better than blacks?
timloupuce [5k\]:  b r5 and leave no?
liger [5k\]: this game is now epic....
Celis [2k\]: dead
Conceptryn [1d\]: yes
Larrave [3k\]: s1 really only hope?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: r5 does not live
aressor [?\]: there is a ko.....BLC wont die at least
harlej9 [2k\]: I ve never seen t2 before :)
kukulis4 [2d\]: ko at s1
Conceptryn [1d\]: blacj should have sacrficed P10
jinkidie [16k?\]: w is getting racoon eyes
Conceptryn [1d\]: and then dry to saved it
kukulis4 [2d\]: black s1
Conceptryn [1d\]: using ko at corner
Conceptryn [1d\]: as long as black made some profit off corner ko, he'd still be ahead
Conceptryn [1d\]: now... 
Conceptryn [1d\]: well who knows
Orc [4d\]: T2 is nice move if there is no life and death prblem, but it could be losing move if blk is dead because of it
harlej9 [2k\]: aha
donzet [?\]: s5 may be last chance for white but little desperate with the ko
Fedoora [18k?\]: 5p?
IGoofy [1d\]: all moves are nice  if they are not bad
kukulis4 [2d\]: expensive ko for both sides, but for black it is more expensive
Conceptryn [1d\]: black does have many local threats though
liger [5k\]: I guess I can see the flaw in t2.....a very difficult flaw to exploit, though
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;B[rs]
;W[ss]C[tupelo [-\]: can't s live without ko by playing p6 and so on
jinkidie [16k?\]: and now somebody says...
Warfreak2 [5d\]: well if it's a flaw catalin just exploited it for you in the obvious way
Conceptryn [1d\]: P6
Conceptryn [1d\]: to launch the ko
Warfreak2 [5d\]: most of the kibbitzers here saw s5
Sakeus [-\]: now will be lot of thinking :)
tupelo [-\]: i don't think w can get more then a seki even when he wins the ko
liger [5k\]: I mean in general
Conceptryn [1d\]: na
v5 [3k\]: ah thanks for time!
Conceptryn [1d\]: black dead
Conceptryn [1d\]: I think
bohica [5k\]: why did b complicate the gaem like this
Conceptryn [1d\]: if black loses
bohica [5k\]: game
Conceptryn [1d\]: not sure if black coulda lived otherwise
kukulis4 [2d\]: black doesnt have any serious threats
Conceptryn [1d\]: without T2 sente
bohica [5k\]: didnt b had a comfortable win?
Onmyoji [2d\]: yeah lol why did he even let his group get into danger
Orc [4d\]: blk played a tesuji but troubled himsel
Conceptryn [1d\]: well wtihout sacrficing Q10 anyway
Celis [2k\]: n12 is anoter ko threat
donzet [?\]: o7 nice threat
liger [5k\]: difficult as in high risk, as in tough ko
Fedoora [18k?\]: what is ctalin taranu rsnk?
kyokunomi [1k\]: cat-and-mouse game ? :-/
fcarbon [2k\]: maybe b wasn't leading so much as everybody thought?
glace [-\]: He's 5p :)
Orc [4d\]: blk O7 is good treat
Fedoora [18k?\]: what is p?
BattleCrui [4k\]: r5 is ok for life?
Sakeus [-\]: 5pro dan
oddalot [7k\]: pro
Fedoora [18k?\]: ahhh
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Javaness [2d\]: good old ko
liger [5k\]: r5 looks like a losing move....
bohica [5k\]: r5 t5
BattleCrui [4k\]: thanks
brooks [1k\]: n11
Sakeus [-\]: d8
Sakeus [-\]: :)
gabigo [10k?\]: time?
MildPeril [2d\]: is N12 good enough threat?  with N10 follow?
Orc [4d\]: O7 is clear threat
nolimits [2d\]: p6
MateiPetre [2d\]: time?
mariachi: eurogotv plz the time 
sameasyou [2d\]: B has several local threats...what has W?
v5 [3k\]: w about 50min, b 18min or so
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W 0.52  B 0.16
MildPeril [2d\]: O7 not that clear to me.. threaten a flase eye?
delperier [4k\]: P6,
Larrave [3k\]: is p6 really a threat
Manudu92 [2k\]: Black 20min butwhats th byo yomi?
Thew [3k\]: k4?
gabigo [10k?\]: thx
PooH [5k\]: w has 5 treaths around g4
liger [5k\]: A threat to live on top might be enough.....one ignored move...maybe?
Orc [4d\]: o7 r1 o6 , live
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Ninjan [6k\]: is there video of the other matches too?
Javaness [2d\]: black looks a little unhappy
blackauron [-\]: r5 t5
donzet [?\]: black as a defensif body attitude
thief0923 [2k\]: there are many ko thread of white and black
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;B[nj]
;W[mh]
;B[sr]C[A1R [8k\]: is catalin the strongest european nowadays?
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;W[ho]
;B[fm]
;W[ss]C[Mizuti [8k\]: yes
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: He is european champion
Javaness [2d\]: maybe breakfast is stronger
Warfreak2 [5d\]: lol
bohica [5k\]: all the moves a the same time, then think again ;)
Sakeus [-\]: yea
swarn: this is kinda flowerviewing ko for white
Kratzdrink [2k\]: yes
donzet [?\]: black is consterned
Orc [4d\]: white is bit heavy too if lose
Warfreak2 [5d\]: you mean black is
jinkidie [16k?\]: blacks clock still running
Javaness [2d\]: black is trying to crawl into his t-shirt
Warfreak2 [5d\]: four white stones are not heavy compared to the whole black group
swarn: ^^
Thew [3k\]: white is so going to win this.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: that would be so cool
Orc [4d\]: white has to find ko threat that is bigger than the corner
Warfreak2 [5d\]: white has several
Warfreak2 [5d\]: k4 next
Warfreak2 [5d\]: f3, e2, g1
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: k4 for white next one
liger [5k\]: p6 Is it a flower viewing go if the game depends on it....
swarn: catalin has chance to become open europen champion :-)
]
;B[on]C[Orc [4d\]: looks like blk has more local ko threat 
Ekibyo [17k?\]: no coke in the second bottle^^
Javaness [2d\]: nice move
Cunning [3k\]: basic
]
;W[oo]C[Javaness [2d\]: wow
]
;B[sr]
;W[jp]
;B[gm]
;W[ss]C[glace [-\]: p5 ??
Javaness [2d\]: I didn't see O5 coming
Cunning [3k\]: p5 interesting
Sakeus [-\]: that face what is catalin making is good i think :)
Kratzdrink [2k\]: he is confident
Onmyoji [2d\]: if w kills he is very lucky
Javaness [2d\]: yes, it seems as if Catalin thinks he can win
sawamara [6k\]: Is not "he" a "she"?
sawamara [6k\]: Catalin is a girl name
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Pinguschaf [5d\]: lol
Warfreak2 [5d\]: catalin is a dude
Warfreak2 [5d\]: a cool dude :>
sawamara [6k\]: interesting name then :D
sawamara [6k\]: in hungary, Katalin is a common girl name
Ekibyo [17k?\]: roflmao
Pinguschaf [5d\]: i will tell him next time
Sakeus [-\]: :)
sawamara [6k\]: :)
Lynx [2d\]: it's so early in the morning here
Orc [4d\]: I thought she was a lady before see him today
jinkidie [16k?\]: this girls sure has hairy arms
Warfreak2 [5d\]: andrea is a girl's name, stemming from the greek word andros meaning "man"
kukulis4 [2d\]: and Catalin what country is he from ?
Pinguschaf [5d\]: ro
uhjgj: who has the better position in this game?
Pinguschaf [5d\]: w
]
;B[so]C[Javaness [2d\]: Warfreak is a girl's name in Ireland
Sakeus [-\]: he is from Romania
putanmihai [14k?\]: lol
Warfreak2 [5d\]: hmmmm?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: this isn't gote?
Mikki62 [2k\]: but w has to kill.....
fcarbon [2k\]: doesn't o5 simply make an eye now (o9)?
Lynx [2d\]: poor black having to back down from the uber ko
kiddai [6k?\]: looks gote to me
swarn: :-() T6
Warfreak2 [5d\]: t6 for sure
uhjgj: r5 seems dangerous before
swarn: dead
Javaness [2d\]: seems like black read http://www.emptytriangle.com
sameasyou [2d\]: :)
Larrave [3k\]: ^^
Larrave [3k\]: i guess this is a threat
kiddai [6k?\]: xD
HandA [4k?\]: B+5 or something
Pinguschaf [5d\]: no, this game ends with resign
liger [5k\]: That is your advertisement for the day, Javaness....you've been warned
swarn: but there is still aji arond O7 - O4, but now i cant see black live
liger [5k\]: just kidding, please don't boot me....
swarn: t6 r4 r1 
Warfreak2 [5d\]: "there is still aji" is not a substitute for reading
putanmihai [14k?\]: wow allmost 500 viewers here :)
jinkidie [16k?\]: invisible sword
]
;W[nm]C[fcarbon [2k\]: seems that b makes an eye with o7?
]
;B[sr]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: gosh
jinkidie [16k?\]: w about to strike b
]
;W[fq]
;B[fr]
;W[ss]C[liger [5k\]: I was about to say, there was still p6 for black
ZothOmmog [4k\]: boot him!
Warfreak2 [5d\]: o7 i cannot understand
Larrave [3k\]: solid move
]
;B[sm]C[fcarbon [2k\]: Warfreak: doesn't o7 make an eye for b at o9 eventually?
kiddai [6k?\]: another gote move?
HighWisdom [14k\]: making seperate eyes?
HighWisdom [14k\]: removing the ko weight
donzet [?\]: black is alive now
kukulis4 [2d\]: this is life
sameasyou [2d\]: seki I think
maligo [4d\]: q6
kukulis4 [2d\]: or not ?
Babibo [1d\]: q5
Warfreak2 [5d\]: but why wouldn't white t6 first
]
;W[po]C[StoneDown [?\]: can become seki 
]
;B[sr]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: it's a good exchange surely
sameasyou [2d\]: e2?
oddalot [7k\]: e2
sawamara [6k\]: b lives now with R5 anyway
MildPeril [2d\]: it can not be seki...unless w can not approach, thus this can not be seki
Finnish [7k\]: nope
Onmyoji [2d\]: no
sameasyou [2d\]: no
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: r9
CsehAndrei [3k\]: O7 just killed b?
jayjolin [1k\]: .......
sameasyou [2d\]: MildPeril u are right
Lepenski [1k\]: e2
Javaness [2d\]: black more relaxed now
Warfreak2 [5d\]: hmmmm
Warfreak2 [5d\]: yes, i understand o7 now
Jocky [3d\]: white ein the ko
Jocky [3d\]: :D
sameasyou [2d\]: after e2 and g1 what threats w has?
StoneDown [?\]: no more seki since W Q5 I think
Onmyoji [2d\]: at least he is not choking himself with his shirt anymore
bohica [5k\]: where is w next ko threath?
Sar [5k\]: please explain Warfreak =)
]
;W[er]C[sawamara [6k\]: E2
Sar [5k\]: why o7 ?
sawamara [6k\]: haha
]
;B[dr]
;W[ss]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: white t6 is not a beneficial exchange to make
]
;B[qo]
;W[qs]C[kiddai [6k?\]: aj
sawamara [6k\]: S6 and ba lives
Larrave [3k\]: wow^^
sameasyou [2d\]: w has enough?
kiddai [6k?\]: nice :)
Rossco [4k\]: closer now
sameasyou [2d\]: he had at least another threat
Celis [2k\]: no then w lost the game
HighWisdom [14k\]: good aversion black
Javaness [2d\]: hmm
]
;B[lk]
;W[mk]
;B[lj]
;W[mj]C[sameasyou [2d\]: lol
Javaness [2d\]: how peculiar
kukulis4 [2d\]: few points around N5
Lepenski [1k\]: s6
]
;B[rn]C[gabigo [10k?\]: b still needs s6 to live right?
HighWisdom [14k\]: hmm
Lepenski [1k\]: bs6
Javaness [2d\]: L10?
]
;W[nf]
;B[ne]
;W[kf]
;B[ke]C[kiusasori [2d\]: l10 m11 l11 l12 
kukulis4 [2d\]: se says, that black is ahead
Pingu007 [3d\]: i dont understand why w stopped the ko
]
;W[je]C[kiddai [6k?\]: l10 now?
oddalot [7k\]: he ran out of threats?
]
;B[kd]C[Javaness [2d\]: moi non plus
seppy [?\]: can someone explain r1???
Vondel [2k\]: good question by pinguin
HighWisdom [14k\]: black lived elsewhere, the ko was meaningless
kiusasori [2d\]: l10 not working
Onmyoji [2d\]: still threats
Pingu007 [3d\]: e1 etc were threats
Thew [3k\]: white probably read the endgame and decided he had enough to win
Vondel [2k\]: siims small
sameasyou [2d\]: j14
Vondel [2k\]: **seems** small to end the ko
Manudu92 [2k\]: its no threaths, to small
seppy [?\]: what about f1
swarn: :-/
sameasyou [2d\]: j14 and o6 afterwards
liron4GO [7k?\]: l10?
Vondel [2k\]: L11?
sameasyou [2d\]: l10 no good
Onmyoji [2d\]: what does l10 do?
oddalot [7k\]: l10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Larrave [3k\]: l10 m11
Larrave [3k\]: just dead
kukulis4 [2d\]: white may play K11, to cattch M10 stones
liron4GO [7k?\]: alot
maligo [4d\]: j15
poirette [1d\]: j15?
jayjolin [1k\]: ...
maligo [4d\]: j15 k14 j14 k13 k12 j13 l10 
Vondel [2k\]: nevermind ;)
boatlord [5d?\]: b+5 I think
gabigo [10k?\]: a2?
kukulis4 [2d\]: if white catches M10 and defends K14 cut and blocks at O6 then white win ;)
chicane [2k\]: why not w k11, seems big
thief0923 [2k\]: white H14?
kukulis4 [2d\]: K4 cut also big
zyklop [1d\]: many big moves left
HighWisdom [14k\]: B L11 is good
liger [5k\]: all white has to do is kill o17.  Simple.
Onmyoji [2d\]: p17 
kukulis4 [2d\]: white must play a move that defends K14 cut and doesnt let black M10 escape in sente
donzet [?\]: killing spirit have been back to ctatalin for half hour only
Manudu92 [2k\]: k5 was a too fast play?
Manudu92 [2k\]: k15?
falientje [10k?\]: hi harry
godfather1 [1k\]: 7d is winning 5p??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
falientje [10k?\]: ik ben judith
seppy [?\]: hey why w didn't use f1 threat???
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
Warfreak2 [5d\]: seppy, f1 costs points
goholic [1d\]: japanese 5p?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: you prefer g1 threat
Vade [2k\]: catalin will pwn, have faith, men.
Rossco [4k\]: what's p?
maniprad [14k\]: roumania 5 pro
Onmyoji [2d\]: shouldnt have stopped ko
Rossco [4k\]: ah
Mikki62 [2k\]: so why not g1?
oddalot [7k\]: faith is a lie
Warfreak2 [5d\]: because b has more local threats
harlej9 [2k\]: did he resign?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: white cannot win ko
liger [5k\]: g1 seems good
Warfreak2 [5d\]: how are the clocks?
Sakeus [-\]: he is from Romania but he is pro in Japan dont he ?
goholic [1d\]: oh
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: he is sakeus
seppy [?\]: thx warfreak2
kukulis4 [2d\]: what is sakeus?
goholic [1d\]: japan pro is weak, dont they?
Jocky [3d\]: EuroGoTv check private chat
Warfreak2 [5d\]: the person who asked the question, kuku
timloupuce [5k\]: black win clearly this game
kukulis4 [2d\]: lol
Clare [1d\]: what country are they representing?
Rossco [4k\]: yeah Korean is good
mr5willows [-\]: 5p in japan with very long absence
Sakeus [-\]: :)
]
;W[ji]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: eurogotv, how are the clocks doing?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: still working
Vade [2k\]: dat thar is some killing spirit
Warfreak2 [5d\]: good to hear
gabigo [10k?\]: :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W 0.40  B 0.07
]
;B[kj]
;W[if]C[liger [5k\]: a move before this....m11 a couple of moves ago, m11 l10 l11 k11 g14  seemed to make it really close
liger [5k\]: a couple of moves ago now...
boule2 [3k\]: how much is komi? 
norgkost [12k\]: 7.5
StoneDown [?\]: ING rules apply
sameasyou [2d\]: it seems like w winning now
fcarbon [2k\]: will w be able to play j16 now?
Sakeus [-\]: 7.5?
liger [5k\]: 8, technically
kumbhaka [3d\]: why ING rules?
fractic [1k\]: 7.5 is normal with area counting such as ING rules
Sakeus [-\]: i was thinking
Sakeus [-\]: 6.5
fractic [1k\]: because ING is a sponsor 
oddalot [7k\]: catalin is counting
fractic [1k\]: 6.5 is usual with territory scoring
liger [5k\]: It's literally 8
StoneDown [?\]: ING foundation supplied 200+ goban sets
fractic [1k\]: but 6.5 komi would give the same result as 5.5 komi in most games when using area scoring
donzet [?\]: referee is holding dutch color
fractic [1k\]: therefore they increased it from 5.5 straight to 7.5
bohica [5k\]: what are the referees for?
allonzo [6k\]: hahaha, the ref dreams of becoming miss universe 
donzet [?\]: hhihi
oddalot [7k\]: rofl
]
;B[fg]C[allonzo [6k\]: Popic is there too
]
;W[id]C[Sakeus [-\]: catalin want cola :)
]
;B[ic]C[allonzo [6k\]: eurogotv, do you know the result of Cristian Pop?
oddalot [7k\]: SE says even
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Cristian won
allonzo [6k\]: thanks!
]
;W[qf]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: wow
kukulis4 [2d\]: R14 was bigest move ?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: yes
fractic [1k\]: R14 is a big reverse sente
Warfreak2 [5d\]: means t15 not black sente any more
fractic [1k\]: and T16 is white sente now
Warfreak2 [5d\]: so t16 is now w's privelige
jjhhuu [4d\]: r14 or a3 both big
]
;B[cl]
;W[bl]C[hanen [-\]: jingle bells~
Vash3G [-\]: batman smells~
Sakeus [-\]: :)
Sakeus [-\]: lool
oddalot [7k\]: i think white is ahead
kukulis4 [2d\]: next d15 looks big
kumbhaka [3d\]: e17 sente?
liger [5k\]: amazing....
yeu: b4
Violence [-\]: hm....
kukulis4 [2d\]: e15
Vash3G [-\]: oh sorry, we weren't singing?
Violence [-\]: I think white's slightly ahead....
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: t16
]
;B[ee]C[Violence [-\]: it's a tough endgame for black, imo
yeu: yep
allonzo [6k\]: a2?
Nyrckes [1k\]: a2
Jocky [3d\]: e17
fcarbon [2k\]: m11 sente now, no?
freegame [-\]: t16
kukulis4 [2d\]: t16 and O6
go1d [4d\]: a3 
ben0 [5d\]: o6
numuri [2d\]: I bet white win by 1 pt!
mcw85 [7k\]: I hope Catalin's reviews are posted on eurogotv.com. 8-)
sameasyou [2d\]: numuri :)
]
;W[he]C[HighWisdom [14k\]: B O6 can suck up some points
jinkidie [16k?\]: did somebody say there would be no square killing? (coff)
seppy [?\]: is he going to review this game?
HighWisdom [14k\]: erm..O5 better
bohica [5k\]: a ponnuki without a take
maligo [4d\]: o6!
glace [-\]: nop h15 is sente
Orc [4d\]: G14
sameasyou [2d\]: h14 I think next
qgo [4k\]: h 15 sente indeed
jjhhuu [4d\]: h14 is bad
glace [-\]: h14 g15 g14 e17 f16 
glace [-\]: too bad
qgo [4k\]: A 2 gote
sameasyou [2d\]: g14 
mcw85 [7k\]: Has anyone counted this game?
sameasyou [2d\]: yes
Orc [4d\]: H14 will make E17 sente for white
maligo [4d\]: a3 sente
sameasyou [2d\]: Orc indeed
kukulis4 [2d\]: black k12
glace [-\]: t16 
Onmyoji [2d\]: h15 gote
Orc [4d\]: G14 seems to be clean
mariachi: Is black in byo-yomi allready?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: g15 subtly better
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 10 seconds
mariachi: thx
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: black in BY
thief0923 [2k\]: white g14, black K12,K13 can life?
Mizuti [8k\]: how muck BY ?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: if you play g14 and white gets e17, then g15 will be white sente and then h14 atari
gabigo [10k?\]: how long is by?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: so black g15 a little better
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 1x1 minute
Mot [3k\]: A3 last big point ?
]
;B[gf]
;W[sd]C[seppy [?\]: catalin looks tired
glace [-\]: in fact
boule2 [3k\]: w ahead around 10 with komi, no?
Mukti [4d\]: w seems slightly ahead
]
;B[sc]
;W[se]C[maligo [4d\]: he always look tired
Mukti [4d\]: this in sente and then E17
LYB [1d\]: i wanna see catalin's face.. what site?
takanashi [7d\]: catalin is gonna win!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
LYB [1d\]: thanks
Javaness [2d\]: haha 10 komi :)
Larrave [3k\]: black counting
numuri [2d\]: white b3, and the game is over, white win
Larrave [3k\]: or?
swarn: would be cool if catalin and Dinersteyn would be winning
Mukti [4d\]: prob. w should play R9 in sente too
Violence [-\]: jeez... this is really close...
boule2 [3k\]: 2-3 game +7 komi
]
;B[rc]C[glace [-\]: a3 
Violence [-\]: It feels like white's ahead by 2-3 for me
MaxMakinen [2k\]: komi is 8, no? not 7
swarn: a3 or a2?
Mukti [4d\]: 7.5
liger [5k\]: right
photios [1k\]: how many seconds in the byo-yomi, euro?
Violence [-\]: it's effectively 7.5
liger [5k\]: it's 8
fractic [1k\]: yeah it's 8 with black winning ties
Boogeyman [3k\]: b+ 3.5
]
;W[ec]C[ecgotf [7k\]: check the rules for time settings.
bistrogo [3d\]: like 10 pts for me
Ronl [5d?\]: 8 but in case of jigo b wins 
]
;B[bp]C[ecgotf [7k\]: and komi settings.
LYB [1d\]: catalin's face is fierce
]
;W[dk]C[bistrogo [3d\]: for white
kukulis4 [2d\]: where was last black move ?
ecgotf [7k\]: Options -> Rules.
HighWisdom [14k\]: b4
sameasyou [2d\]: b4
kukulis4 [2d\]: ok
]
;B[jh]
;W[ki]
;B[kh]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: hm
ben0 [5d\]: hum
Larrave [3k\]: oh
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: end
Celis [2k\]: oh no
Orc [4d\]: woooooo
kumbhaka [3d\]: haaaaiiii cataliiiiiiiiin!!!
ben0 [5d\]: -_-
kukulis4 [2d\]: b+
numuri [2d\]: oh, no
Orc [4d\]: omg poor white
Celis [2k\]: this is a huge accident
Welvang [3d\]: il a trop bu
liger [5k\]: m11 is sente
Celis [2k\]: W lost
thief0923 [2k\]: exchange
hanen [-\]: exchange
flosuji [2k\]: m11 not sente )
ben0 [5d\]: over
swarn: :-/ good exchange for black?
Orc [4d\]: the exchange is much better for blk
Orc [4d\]: white 10 points, blk more than 15 points
BenSenTen [?\]: 7d win 5p?
]
;W[li]
;B[lh]C[Orc [4d\]: white 10 points, blk 20 points
]
;W[kk]C[Rossco [4k\]: big cut
]
;B[mg]C[dejohn [?\]: ???
sfrex [2k\]: just gaive up 3
Larrave [3k\]: catalin looking sad
kumbhaka [3d\]: w lost :(
]
;W[qk]
;B[pl]C[StoneDown [?\]: wow
hanen [-\]: w+6
Welvang [3d\]: -_-
hanen [-\]: so proclaims se
Welvang [3d\]: l'estime est pourrit
]
;W[nn]C[liger [5k\]: white won...
Orc [4d\]: white should not escaped K11 stone
]
;B[op]
;W[no]C[Violence [-\]: why are you trusting SE?
Violence [-\]: count yourself
kukulis4 [2d\]: white still may win ?
]
;B[ea]
;W[da]
;B[fa]C[Sakeus [-\]: yea
hanen [-\]: because it are my teh buddies
]
;W[cd]C[Violence [-\]: I think White will win by a very small margin
ecgotf [7k\]: SE can't handle area scoring
]
;B[np]
;W[mp]C[Violence [-\]: .5-1.5 now...
]
;B[dl]C[Vade [2k\]: looks like easy win for b
oddalot [7k\]: ...
JanesDiary [10k?\]: o.0
fractic [1k\]: difference between area and territory is at most one point
fractic [1k\]: unless there are sekis
oddalot [7k\]: make up your mionds
czy1985 [4k\]: still so close...
]
;W[ap]
;B[aq]
;W[ao]C[Violence [-\]: It's really close..
]
;B[es]C[photios [1k\]: was c16 really necessary?
]
;W[gs]C[v5 [3k\]: this game so exciting! 
Larrave [3k\]: yes it was
liger [5k\]: SE doesn't handle area scoring well, though, so if the game is set up as area scoring, then the difference is bigger.....I think that's what he was saying
]
;B[sl]
;W[sk]C[glace [-\]: Isn't japanese rules
]
;B[fs]
;W[is]C[oddalot [7k\]: W WINS  Hooray
glace [-\]: Se can't work
Onmyoji [2d\]: b won
ecgotf [7k\]: it's set to chinese
Vade [2k\]: b wins
flosuji [2k\]: gj catalin
]
;B[qp]C[czy1985 [4k\]: e12?
]
;W[oq]C[ecgotf [7k\]: if people knew to just check the rules under options, there'd be no problem
]
;B[eh]
;W[dh]C[StoneDown [?\]: It's ING rules: area scoring
Javaness [2d\]: we will find out the score soon
kumbhaka [3d\]: yesssssss.... catalin winsssss
Orc [4d\]: F16 does sothing
watergun [-\]: chinese rule?
Bheeshma [4k\]: ing rules.. someone will have to count
uguryldz [8k\]: c4
Violence [-\]: what's up with L13?
Larrave [3k\]: games over
Larrave [3k\]: they ended it^^
Losing [1k?\]: I count black +6
czy1985 [4k\]: lol how come reversed?
donzet [?\]: allez catalin
kukulis4 [2d\]: white won ?
kukulis4 [2d\]: or catalin ?
awers [2d\]: f16 
kukulis4 [2d\]: lol
Onmyoji [2d\]: b win
kukulis4 [2d\]: black or white won ?
Boogeyman [3k\]: missread for euroggotv?!
Orc [4d\]: F16 worth 1 point
Violence [-\]: oh, nm
Violence [-\]: I hallucinated
liger [5k\]: black by over ten, I think
Ninjan [6k\]: hehe, erugov went c4
gelda [2k\]: w won
Arhiman [3k\]: no
guiguistar [2d\]: i have to read about various rules
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: remember the 8 komi
donzet [?\]: we can trust SE when game is finished
Violence [-\]: Eurogo, a question
Losing [1k?\]: right by 14 then
Javaness [2d\]: SE uses japanese rules
Violence [-\]: how are these sets double checked for 180 stone count?
Arhiman [3k\]: SE count with japanese rules
chute [2k\]: not always, donzet
liger [5k\]: not with chinese scoring, donzet
Bheeshma [4k\]: i dont understand this counting
Violence [-\]: I notice you aren't using stock ING sets
sameasyou [2d\]: who won?
Orc [4d\]: Catalin looks sad, i think he lost
Bheeshma [4k\]: why are they filling up
Larrave [3k\]: nevr saw that way of counting^^
Javaness [2d\]: they filled theboard before the game started Violence
StoneDown [?\]: INGH counting
Vash3G [-\]: welcome to awesome ing counting
liger [5k\]: ING rules, and by rules I mean fails
Violence [-\]: I see
godfather1 [1k\]: whats the difrence?? chin japan??
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B+13
donzet [?\]: Catalin +2.5
HisokaH [-\]: never trust SE
lemming [-\]: I don't get it XD
Orc [4d\]: B+
Violence [-\]: oh jeez
Vade [2k\]: b++
chute [2k\]: i saw a calm game recently whithout big kills or sekis, SE had wrong even after finish
Violence [-\]: is that
Violence [-\]: B+1.5?
photios [1k\]: catalin lost\\
Rossco [4k\]: black by a few I think
Bheeshma [4k\]: will the total number of stones be counte?
LYB [1d\]: white biting nails
swarn: B+11
Elendar [1d\]: chute => chinese rules ftw
liger [5k\]: Only trust SE with japanese.....if you view offline, and change the rules to japanese, you can see :)
Gonzalate [2d\]: EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B+13
donzet [?\]: catalin winner face
norgkost [12k\]: what are they doing?
Vogel [1k\]: +13?
Violence [-\]: 13!?
kukulis4 [2d\]: yeah
Nyrckes [1k\]: Balck won by 13+
Orc [4d\]: Pro lost 
kumbhaka [3d\]: why b+13?
Vade [2k\]: just open the game offline
kukulis4 [2d\]: se is stupid
Vade [2k\]: then do scoring
oddalot [7k\]: waht are they talking about?
Vade [2k\]: to get a better score than SE
Nyrckes [1k\]: ING ruleset
Sakeus [-\]: I dont get it
Larrave [3k\]: +13 is like wow
Vade [2k\]: SE does only japanese
Gresil [-\]: Ing isn't an acronym, folks
Orc [4d\]: the guy in glasses is 5p korean
harlej9 [2k\]: rules trouble?
kukulis4 [2d\]: I counted more than +10 for black
marseki [6k\]: japamese and chinese should add to the same result
liger [5k\]: If you view offline and change to japanese rules, it says B+13.5
kingsplace [2k\]: How are you guys able to see the players
Larrave [3k\]: like i said
Ukasuhs [1k\]: considering b got about 8 ponits from the m12 exchance, its not this "wow"
liger [5k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
oddalot [7k\]: who won?
jjhhuu [4d\]: live tv :d
Larrave [3k\]: he lost because of the coke
Larrave [3k\]: ;D
Vogel [1k\]: ok, thanks for broadcasting!
Vade [2k\]: yeh, but SE is funny.
bolbi [-\]: User blocked by anti-flood system in Room Vexil: flooder : check eurogotv1's info
Ukasuhs [1k\]: points*
Violence [-\]: Jeez, I'm completely off on counting
Vade [2k\]: can't cope with different rule sets
gdghgjd [1d\]: weird counting...
Larrave [3k\]: y
jjhhuu [4d\]: what they r doiing :d
Violence [-\]: ohhh, I think I counted white ahead because I thought N13 was a white stone...
Larrave [3k\]: this counting sux to be honest
watergun [-\]: who won??
norgkost [12k\]: friendship?
flosuji [2k\]: black by 13
donzet [?\]: harry won
StefanRadu [1d?\]: the "western pro" lost
drilo [1k\]: B+??
oddalot [7k\]: eurogo, what was the final score?
Ninjan [6k\]: did catalin win?
Losing [1k?\]: b+13
Ekibyo [17k?\]: are they fulling the table and then start to count the stons?
Ekibyo [17k?\]: stones*
Javaness [2d\]: Thanks Eurogotv1
Fedoora [19k?\]: thnx
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: feed continues on board 2 now
Ninjan [6k\]: thanks for a pleasent show.
harlej9 [2k\]: what about h16?
seppy [?\]: review?
janssensei: thanks eurogotv
jSd [8k\]: its
Ekibyo [17k?\]: thanks eurgotv
harlej9 [2k\]: score? b+16??
Orc [4d\]: board 2 is under camera now
Orc [4d\]: thx
Losing [1k?\]: EuroGoTV, mind showing your face? :p
bikle [5k\]: Who won this game
DEADPOOL [2k\]: qui a gagné?
liger [5k\]: B+13...
harlej9 [2k\]: w+3,5?
liger [5k\]: no
Reym: score?
IGoofy [1d\]: set up board 2 here
StoneDown [?\]: W+13
Jocky [3d\]: score?
veteran [1d\]: W +3.5?
liger [5k\]: B+13!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B+13
StoneDown [?\]: oops.
StoneDown [?\]: mistak
chicane [2k\]: W+3,5
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: Black wins
oddalot [7k\]: ok thanks
StoneDown [?\]: B+13 indeed
liger [5k\]: come on people....
harlej9 [2k\]: but how?
watergun [-\]: err.. that's a big gap :(
Reym: thanks eurogo
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;B[kn]C[Sgarobo [6k\]: I count about 98 for black and 92/5 for white...
Violence [-\]: wait...
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;W[cp]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: f9 is there
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;B[bq]C[liger [5k\]: yeah, I think it's black's game...now....
Warfreak2 [5d\]: lol
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;W[jn]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: why ko
kilroy [3d\]: f16 is a point
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