(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[9000]OT[1x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Go Congress 2009 board 1 round 4]PW[In-seong Hwang]PB[Joon Sang Kim]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2009-07-30]EV[European Go Congress 2009 board 1 round 4]RO[4]PC[Groningen, The Netherlands]US[HW9x9]C[Darkover [7k?\]: hi  who will play here ?
seppy [?\]: good morning eurogo
Chilltime [2k\]: mornin
gornuf [19k\]: moring too al
gornuf [19k\]: *all
alecs [12k\]: hello
pony16 [11k\]: wazzup
oddalot [7k\]: hi
kiddai [6k?\]: hi all ^^
Lurifax [8k\]: who is joon?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hi all
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
qgo [4k\]: Good morning EuroGo
mcw85 [7k\]: Black has a big capture on that board.
gornuf [19k\]: hi eurogo
oddalot [7k\]: hey, so if someone loses in the main tournament, are they out forverever or what?
oddalot [7k\]: forever*
Uberdude [4d?\]: no
Uberdude [4d?\]: that would be boring
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: results see my info
pucca [1d\]: Hi Eurogo, thanks fors the broadcast :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yw^^
che [-\]: EuroGo, I hope you had good breakfast to get through this
jankenpon: who won the pairgo championship?
TheLorax [3k\]: a kyu problem
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes^^
TheLorax [3k\]: black to play and win
oddalot [7k\]: ok, so these boards are the top people currently?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
qgo [4k\]:  b Q 16
oddalot [7k\]: ok cool
oddalot [7k\]: q17
oddalot [7k\]: maybe i need to get one of those fans, they i will be strong
Lurifax [8k\]: where is european go congress at?
BurzoS [2d\]: Holland , groningen 
Lurifax [8k\]: ah
oddalot [7k\]: the netherlands?
qgo [4k\]: yes, the Neherlands
oddalot [7k\]: dutch, holland, netherlands...
oddalot [7k\]: makes a ton of sense
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;B[pd]
;W[dp]
;B[qp]C[cuby [2k\]: no fj at gocongress!
qgo [4k\]: he oddalot, I solved the kyu-problem right: Q 17
Violence [-\]: Mr. Dickhut isn't at the Eurocongress?
oddalot [7k\]: next one is double points, i call d15
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;W[oq]C[cuby [2k\]: i thot all the high eurodans would be there
Tindel10 [12k\]: whats going one here?
Tindel10 [12k\]: on*
qgo [4k\]: wrong again oddalot
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;B[dd]
;W[qf]C[jinkidie [15k\]: r6 ;)
jankenpon: sorry to ask again, but who won the pair go championship?
jankenpon: i do not think it was broadcast on KGS :(
seppy [?\]: uhm unusual fuseki?
oddalot [7k\]: r10?
Tindel10 [12k\]: how do we watch this live?
seppy [?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Tindel10 [12k\]: thank you
oddalot [7k\]: does this seem strange opening to anyone?
oddalot [7k\]: played q12
Pwnage [1d\]: standard korean opening
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Mr. Chung 2d & Ms. Chang won the pair go
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;B[ph]
;W[po]
;B[qo]
;W[pn]
;B[qm]C[jankenpon: thank you!
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;W[pm]
;B[ql]
;W[pl]
;B[pk]
;W[ok]C[Pwnage [1d\]: b must be happy here
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ms Chang is 1p
Pwnage [1d\]: is ms chang hot
jankenpon: much appreciated, i was watching it but had to run an errand
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry
gogonuts [4d\]: looks fair to me
gogonuts [4d\]: q12 isnt in such a great place now
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;B[pj]C[pendulum [3k\]: why?
Tindel10 [12k\]: what rank are these two?
oddalot [7k\]: b only wants profit!
Pwnage [1d\]: 7d and 7d
seppy [?\]: 7d
gogonuts [4d\]: 7ds
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 7d
mcw85 [7k\]: It say sby their names.
gogonuts [4d\]: 14d together
mcw85 [7k\]: Maybe one is 6d and the other 8d, then.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but they are stronger then most pros
seppy [?\]: k4?
Tindel10 [12k\]: is this for a title or anything?
Pwnage [1d\]: stronger than most pros?
Lurifax [8k\]: why are they not pros then?
oddalot [7k\]: higher maybe?
Pwnage [1d\]: as in american pros?
gogonuts [4d\]: yeah, 7d is close to sandbagging
magners [3k\]: EuroGoTV1, what makes you say that?
Pwnage [1d\]: or actual asian pros?
gogonuts [4d\]: there is a huge gap between the 6ds and the 7ds
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it is true
snowman [-\]: just a little bit exaggeration
Pwnage [1d\]: or professional football player
Tindel10 [12k\]: is this like a tournament?
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;W[qn]C[oddalot [7k\]: because they beat pros
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;B[rn]
;W[rm]C[Renju [-\]: maybe they dont want to become pros
Orc [4d\]: the r stronger than euro pros
Renju [-\]: nothing strange in that
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;B[ro]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: in Korea only a limited number of people can become pro each year
snowman [-\]: "stronger than pro"
mcw85 [7k\]: How old is Kim?
jankenpon: how much time does each person have? they are playing really fast..
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 2.5 hours
Tindel10 [12k\]: is thislike a tournament?
gogonuts [4d\]: 2:30
oddalot [7k\]: 150 min?
jankenpon: wow
royalty [4d\]: jealous, snowman?
oddalot [7k\]: yes tournament
Pwnage [1d\]: i can beat the lot of u!
Tindel10 [12k\]: is this finals?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no
Highwayman [1d\]: Tindel10, this is the EGC 2009
mcw85 [7k\]: No.
pendulum [3k\]: are they something like ex-inseis?
gogonuts [4d\]: board 1
Pwnage [1d\]: round 1
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: round 4
oddalot [7k\]: k5!~~
snowman [-\]: not quite, your highness
danigabi [6d\]: W plan? : r9 s8 s9 t7 r11 r12 s12 s13 s11 r13 q11 
Tindel10 [12k\]: Oh ok
danigabi [6d\]: seems w connects after r9
Tindel10 [12k\]: sorry im very interested
Tindel10 [12k\]: and NOOB
Lurifax [8k\]: have they tried to become pro?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
danigabi [6d\]: r9 s8 s9 t7 r11 q11 r12 q13 r13 q14 
Renju [-\]: everyone starts out as noobs so
oddalot [7k\]: not chuck norris
royalty [4d\]: some people are born pro strength
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;W[of]
;B[nd]C[Pwnage [1d\]: dani
Pwnage [1d\]: thats not the plan lol
gornuf [19k\]: chuck norris is nothing!
meuns [2k\]: where are the results ?
Pwnage [1d\]: was a simple jump!
royalty [4d\]: when they come to this world, they are already prepared with slate&shell stones
mcw85 [7k\]: http://egc2009.nl/?q=node/1472
gogonuts [4d\]: now probably r9
meuns [2k\]: thx
Pwnage [1d\]: im a born ladies man
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;W[qk]
;B[rl]
;W[rk]
;B[sm]C[gornuf [19k\]: haha yea right pwnage
oddalot [7k\]: haha
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;W[qi]C[oddalot [7k\]: thought they played that for a second lol
danigabi [6d\]: maybe after p14
danigabi [6d\]: black should P10
danigabi [6d\]: then he can jump at n10
Pwnage [1d\]: i was with a woman 13 times i nthe last 5 days
gogonuts [4d\]: p14 was a useful preparation
seppy [?\]: dani is b overconcentrated?
gogonuts [4d\]: shut up
danigabi [6d\]: no, he is not
oddalot [7k\]: b in trouble?
danigabi [6d\]: slightly bad shape at s5 though
gogonuts [4d\]: w has some weaknesses himself
meuns [2k\]: who is joon ?
gornuf [19k\]: ur mom
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Pwnage [1d\]: whos ahead
meuns [2k\]: i never saw him in europe
Pwnage [1d\]: grey or gray?
IGoofy [1d\]: b can resign
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: this aji is obnoxious for B
gogonuts [4d\]: b played O16 really quickly, so its a little strange for him to hesitate now
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;B[oj]C[danigabi [6d\]: he was considering between q11 and p10
meuns [2k\]: o9 
Rocker [4d\]: euro 2009!
danigabi [6d\]: R12
gogonuts [4d\]: p10 does look better, now that its on the board
Rocker [4d\]: germany will win!
gogonuts [4d\]: sure
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: looks like this is sente against r12
StefanRadu [2d?\]: Somalia will. 
danigabi [6d\]: yes, w cannot play o9
gogonuts [4d\]: somalia and germany have equal chances of winning
StefanRadu [2d?\]: indeed
Yanwangye [-\]: who is german ?
Orc [4d\]: blk O5 later will be hard for white 
leger [1d\]: hello all, looks like a good game
IGoofy [1d\]: troll is watching
StefanRadu [2d?\]: s12 
StefanRadu [2d?\]: ?
Javaness [2d\]: In Seong lives in germany
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;W[rh]C[ChemBoy613 [1d\]: what does that giant orange sash mean?
danigabi [6d\]: the great focus of this fight is who gets to play at bottom first
StefanRadu [2d?\]: yeah. that look like teh only solution.
gogonuts [4d\]: s12 is interesting
danigabi [6d\]: O10
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;B[nk]C[StefanRadu [2d?\]: s12 was the only move. its also interesting.
Uberdude [4d?\]: good shape, or else q13 double peep
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: of course the atari
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;W[ol]C[Rocker [4d\]: romania will not win!
danigabi [6d\]: wow he connected
jankenpon: so black now n12?
gogonuts [4d\]: r12 or s13 instead were unsatisfying
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: how is sound and picture?
danigabi [6d\]: N11
jankenpon: oh oops m12*
Javaness [2d\]: picture very nice
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: n11 better than o12?
gornuf [19k\]: theyre both great eurogo
mcw85 [7k\]: W want to cut.
gogonuts [4d\]: picture is fine
gogonuts [4d\]: they dont make a lot of noise :-)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: not bumpy?
gornuf [19k\]: not at all
gogonuts [4d\]: a little, but ok
pendulum [3k\]: picture just died or is it just me?
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: the sound seems fuzzy to me, but the picture is fine
gornuf [19k\]: its just you
StefanRadu [2d?\]: romania from all the other european participants will have the best result:
mcw85 [7k\]: Stop sign watching game.
Dieber [15k\]: Did In-seong win the game yesterday?
Uberdude [4d?\]: sound at go tournament?
jankenpon: yes video quality is nice
Uberdude [4d?\]: should ber very boring
Dieber [15k\]: *won
jankenpon: can even full screen and it's very clean
mcw85 [7k\]: There was no game yesterday.
mcw85 [7k\]: But, yes, he won his last game.
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: n11 does have a better feel to it
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if something wrong with the live TV feed pls let me know ; i cannot check it myself
Rocker [4d\]: s15
royalty [4d\]: n14
Rocker [4d\]: 16
Orc [4d\]: N14?
Rocker [4d\]: s16!!!!!!
jinkidie [15k\]: some 60 Hz hum on audio
danigabi [6d\]: how many players in congress this year?
Orc [4d\]: Q10 stones are not heavy, can abandon
GBPacker [6d\]: is this a european tourment
danigabi [6d\]: no orc
gornuf [19k\]: O3
jankenpon: why n14? does that not push white into black's weak group?
danigabi [6d\]: the stones are not kikashi
gornuf [19k\]: )i mean 013
GBPacker [6d\]: or korean tourament
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;B[mi]C[danigabi [6d\]: cannot sacrifice
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: n14 seems like it's not treat these stones right
seishiro [6k\]: its european
danigabi [6d\]: as they are alive, black can aim at S16, or O5
danigabi [6d\]: N14 now seems the vital
mcw85 [7k\]: K4?
cuby [2k\]: this must be major tea concern to sponsor big event like this
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: nothing but n14
leger [1d\]: european 7d, on kgs, what is it usually ?
gogonuts [4d\]: n14 is important
mcw85 [7k\]: 9d
Breaker [1k?\]: p12
gogonuts [4d\]: imagine b n14
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;W[mf]C[Rocker [4d\]: they force all  players drink their tea only throughout the tornaent
danigabi [6d\]: M16
chute [2k\]: fj is 7d here and in the German list
cuby [2k\]: such quick play
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: m16 feels very natural
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: n14 is kind of obvious i think
gornuf [19k\]: L 14
gogonuts [4d\]: L17
Javaness [2d\]: fj is 6d i thought
holynec [?\]: i think q10 was asking for too much :k
danigabi [6d\]: w M16 is unbearable
Rocker [4d\]: man in pink
leger [1d\]: i like black better
danigabi [6d\]: the only other option might be S16, only if its sente
fatihsulak [2d\]: how about l3 
danigabi [6d\]: (aims at S13)
chute [2k\]: no sorry, i just checked it, fj is 6d in Germany
Rocker [4d\]: too much time for amateurs
gogonuts [4d\]: i dont think b will allow w m16
fatihsulak [2d\]: sorry not l3 k3?
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: then must be  m16
jinkidie [15k\]: so is the idea that n-p-r- 14 slice acrose a potential enemy territory/
gogonuts [4d\]: L17
Rocker [4d\]: its bad for their improvement!
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;B[nl]C[gogonuts [4d\]: oh
gogonuts [4d\]: reducing the libs, wow
Isobeutel [2d?\]: lol
Rocker [4d\]: o5???????????
gogonuts [4d\]: o5?
gogonuts [4d\]: right
Breaker [1k?\]: i go for k4
oddalot [7k\]: why o5?
Breaker [1k?\]: lol
danigabi [6d\]: o6 better shape if going to hold back i think
sfrex [1k\]: o6
AAdomeit [9k\]: what are they using as a web cam?
mcw85 [7k\]: O6 seems better.
AAdomeit [9k\]: the resolution on it is tremendous
KoshiKun [6k\]: :S
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: o5 less aji
Rocker [4d\]: its too slow
mcw85 [7k\]: Odd: q4 p4 p5 So a move is needed by W
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Canon XM1 camera
gogonuts [4d\]: im almost sure not O6
AAdomeit [9k\]: thanks!
StefanRadu [2d?\]: w needs speed now.
gogonuts [4d\]: n6 maybe
seppy [?\]: o6 n6?
gornuf [19k\]: P4
mcw85 [7k\]: Maybe o5 is better.
KoshiKun [6k\]: i dont even realize whats going on 
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;W[nn]C[KoshiKun [6k\]: i just got here
gogonuts [4d\]: damn :-)
danigabi [6d\]: im pro kibitz
KoshiKun [6k\]: is black trying to kill a group?
seppy [?\]: haha
mcw85 [7k\]: This is checkers.
gogonuts [4d\]: congtrats
DokdoKorea [2k\]: this game is sooo interesting that even my gf allow me to watch
sfrex [1k\]: haha
mcw85 [7k\]: W just kinged himself.
royalty [4d\]: he cant do that!
sfrex [1k\]: o6 good shape
pendulum [3k\]: o13 ?
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;B[qe]
;W[rf]
;B[kc]C[Rocker [4d\]: eh both players dont sound european
mcw85 [7k\]: European, born and raised.
gogonuts [4d\]: some lag in the video, or the game recorder is prescient
oddalot [7k\]: why do they take like 10 minutes to think about one move, then play like another move in 10 seconds?
chute [2k\]: white is living in Berlin
gornuf [19k\]: is it against the law to kill an owl???
royalty [4d\]: which owl?
oddalot [7k\]: yes
mcw85 [7k\]: It's not against any religion to want to dispose of a piegion.
seppy [?\]: b ahead?
royalty [4d\]: and under which law?
jinkidie [15k\]: they think out whole sequences
danigabi [6d\]: i think this shape is slack, but its very modern and korean
oddalot [7k\]: section 8, article 4
mcw85 [7k\]: Dani: Which shape?
gornuf [19k\]: sry let me reephrase that
jinkidie [15k\]: what is "slack"?
gogonuts [4d\]: my hypothesis is that rectangular black glasses make you extremely strong
noned [2d\]: gogonuts :D
danigabi [6d\]: r15-L17 combo
royalty [4d\]: i guess i'm strong
DokdoKorea [2k\]: american costitution garantee owl to live and play go
Orc [4d\]: korean go is closer 2 the natrue of go
gornuf [19k\]: is it against the law to kill a kind of owl thats no where near extinction?
oddalot [7k\]: yes
KoshiKun [6k\]: owl? O_O
oddalot [7k\]: you can
oddalot [7k\]: 't kill anything
mcw85 [7k\]: Let's keep off-topic conversation relevant to game. Pllease.
Rocker [4d\]: its like a european ping pong championship torney!?
Violence [-\]: wait... how do you keep something offtopic relevant to what the topic is?
gogonuts [4d\]: off-topic but relevant, interesting
oddalot [7k\]: except mother in laws...zing!
yame [2k\]: just with more chicks, yes rocker
gornuf [19k\]: sry but an owl is right by my metal chimminey and its hoots are echoing down into the house
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
mcw85 [7k\]: I don't really like r15 here, either.
leger [1d\]: I recommend the live feed to everybody, very high quality
chute [2k\]: Ishida already played l17 as an extension from d16 in a game against Hosai already
cuby [2k\]: yeah it's like you are standing right there
cuby [2k\]: watching a dude scratch his stomach while staring at a sink
gogonuts [4d\]: dont recommend it, or the quality will go down
Orc [4d\]: J4 is my nxt move
oddalot [7k\]: koreans just look really smart, i'm not trying to be racist
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;W[qc]C[holynec [?\]: is that guy closing his eyes
holynec [?\]: or what
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: big gote?
mcw85 [7k\]: I was looking at this move.
gogonuts [4d\]: these super smart koreans are the only koreans we get to know
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: i think it's too early
KoshiKun [6k\]: ishida
mcw85 [7k\]: Is it te right time though?
jinkidie [15k\]: noooo not the board kid
KoshiKun [6k\]: from the anime?
KoshiKun [6k\]: O/o
KoshiKun [6k\]: oh no
KoshiKun [6k\]: his name was akira XD
oddalot [7k\]: s16
gogonuts [4d\]: this will take a while
danigabi [6d\]: impatient
cuby [2k\]: this seems so dangerous
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: r16
DokdoKorea [2k\]: oddalot, i even heard that korean can play go with only one eye open
gogonuts [4d\]: an annoying probe
royalty [4d\]: they keep the stupid korean guy locked up somewhere and never show him to us
royalty [4d\]: oh well, back to the game
danigabi [6d\]: no, its not a probe
mcw85 [7k\]: I see.
chute [2k\]: in the qualification for his first Honinbo around 1970
gogonuts [4d\]: b has trouble deciding on the answer, that makes it a probe to me
danigabi [6d\]: w aims to take corner and safety, or compromise black into an attack by letting w live on top
cuby [2k\]: she's taking a picture of us recording her taking the picture ... divide by zero ...
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;B[pc]C[gogonuts [4d\]: exactly, probing bs intentions
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Saijo Sensai in the house^^
danigabi [6d\]: If the definition of probe were the difficulty of answering it, games would be full of probes :)
gogonuts [4d\]: i never know if its s16 or s15 now
leger [1d\]: i'm only 1d, but to me r17 is probe
]
;W[re]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Life's a probe, then you die.
oddalot [7k\]: who is the old duder?
holynec [?\]: i thought a probe is 1) see what opponent does, 2) make opp heavy
leger [1d\]: err, it seems it wasn't
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 9d
Violence [-\]: black is a very peaceful kind of player///
cuby [2k\]: saijo knows who will win already ;)
danigabi [6d\]: no holynec
Moyonnaise [?\]: A probe is a move that forces the opponent to commit to a strategy.
gogonuts [4d\]: time to obliterate the bottom?
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;B[jq]C[danigabi [6d\]: a probe is a question to compromise the opponent into a certain course of action to decide you own
just9x9 [-\]: nice put moyonnaise
gogonuts [4d\]: thanks moyo
leger [1d\]: Moyonnaise's definition seems proper
holynec [?\]: which relates to 1) see what opponent does
oddalot [7k\]: nice put...ahah how ironic
oddalot [7k\]: well speled as well
cuby [2k\]: lol his name is moyonnaise
mcw85 [7k\]: Moyo and dani said the same thing but dani is more loquacious.
spherical [-\]: my probes are about going out on a limb while my opponent takes an axe to the tree
leger [1d\]: 20 moves ago, i liked black better; it still is the case, I like his play better
IGoofy [1d\]: i thought a probe was a probe
Isobeutel [2d?\]: b smiles a bit
]
;W[lq]C[holynec [?\]: what about my mcw85
holynec [?\]: *me
]
;B[fq]C[AURELIE46 [3d\]: ^^
DokdoKorea [2k\]: royalty is old dude, oddalot, he has denture not singer of his teeth left
gogonuts [4d\]: b smiles because he got sente - its the sente-smile
mcw85 [7k\]: I didn't see your definition, but if it was right, I'm sure it's okay.
holynec [?\]: hmmmmm f3
danigabi [6d\]: not exactly, not to be pedant but it is vital that a move to be a probe requires you to act differenly depening of the opponent answer.
cuby [2k\]: dani probe can't confirm your plan?
YusufS [2k\]: c6 or h3 now?
Orc [4d\]: h3
holynec [?\]: it's like sending a spy ;)
gogonuts [4d\]: "commiting the opponent to a strategy" alters your own strategy ofcourse
danigabi [6d\]: for example..if after r17, either black played s15 or q17, w were to tenuki at k4 regardless, then its not a probe. Could be kikashi, if it were any good of course
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;W[hq]C[Orc [4d\]: korean style h3
danigabi [6d\]: not really, a kikashi that makes opponent heavy is not a probe
holynec [?\]: he has to h3
]
;B[fo]C[YusufS [2k\]: ^_^
leger [1d\]: h3 seems only move
holynec [?\]: not really korean
terminatrx [2d\]: h3 is normal move :)
leger [1d\]: not "korean", just only move
]
;W[cn]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Is c6 here better than d6?
]
;B[dr]C[cstoner [3k\]: yeah, white *had* to have prepared a plan for h3
mcw85 [7k\]: Too late.
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: W takes corner, B gets thick... o htis way
gogonuts [4d\]: playing go has a lot in common with kids kicking down each others sand castles
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: i think white will play j4
terminatrx [2d\]: i think a19 was another possible move ... just thinking though
leger [1d\]: gogonuts :P
cuby [2k\]: j4 would be awesome
seppy [?\]: j4?
DickOne [3d\]: d2 is first tried by korean i think
oddalot [7k\]: are you allowed to drink beer during tournaments>?
leger [1d\]: destroying sand castle by throwing snowballs
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: i thought B would play k4
Ripples [7k\]: this was probably asked, but whats time limit do both players get?
Orc [4d\]: D2 is very old move by japanese
gogonuts [4d\]: J4 most probable
danigabi [6d\]: j4 standerd
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: because white can play j4 now
hylie [4d\]: the terminatrix is up to her old termina-tricks
Rocker [4d\]: c3
terminatrx [2d\]: sure oddalot why not
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: c3 also possible
Terminator [8k\]: ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 2 and a half hour each
Nemerid [-\]: I think c3
Ripples [7k\]: k thx
cuby [2k\]: white won't play c3 the way he's been going
Breaker [1k?\]: and h3?
gogonuts [4d\]: w c3 makes d2 a forcing move
seppy [?\]: but j4 gote for w right?
melmak: j4
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: i think with o6 around j4 seems good
chute [2k\]: d2 is a completely natural preparation of j4 - that can neither be "Korean" not anything else of that kind
chute [2k\]: *nor
gogonuts [4d\]: so j4, c3, c9 is most common
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: well SOMEONE will play J4 soon
Rocker [4d\]: c3 is the right move!!
melmak: no
cstoner [3k\]: Why do so many pros carry a fan with them when they never seem to fan themselves. They just press it against their cheek/chin
Nemerid [-\]: I agree with rocker
Rocker [4d\]: u r strong
Terminator [8k\]: C9
gogonuts [4d\]: cool prediction if your right, rocker
Renju [-\]: to look cool cstoner ;)
mcw85 [7k\]: I disagree with ROcker.
YusufS [2k\]: won't white be fine is black gets c3, he can just take c9 right? 
Rocker [4d\]: u r weak
AhSayuni [4d\]: I think that if c3 is correct w made a mistake before
leger [1d\]: cstoner, fan = +2 stones
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: not c9
seppy [?\]: c3 sente - j4 gote?
mcw85 [7k\]: Haha.
jinkidie [15k\]: Fans are there to keep smokers from gnawing their arms off
just9x9 [-\]: lol sayuni
pendulum [3k\]: i cant understand why black wants to fight here, k3 could be at j3 with decent continuations, no?
danigabi [6d\]: its a stress release,having a fan
cstoner [3k\]: w c3 would kill h3. Why play h3 after h3?
cstoner [3k\]: rather, why c3 after h3?
Nemerid [-\]: w has to defend since he is less strong than black in this area, he need sente. That's what I think
danigabi [6d\]: no pendulum
mcw85 [7k\]: h3 will stil have aji.
just9x9 [-\]: having a fan is some traditional thing as well
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;W[ip]
;B[cq]C[meuns [2k\]: i really prefer b here
leger [1d\]: for this tournament, they have good boards
danigabi [6d\]: k3 at j3 would make black overconcentrated :j3 l3 f3 e3 f4 d6 \\
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;W[ck]C[melmak: yes
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: totaly normal
mcw85 [7k\]: This is what I expected.
Nemerid [-\]: but he decides to fight finaly
Rocker [4d\]: k4
Girls [7d\]: why seems there is so many 7d- -
Terminator [8k\]: i won
danigabi [6d\]: i wouldnt k4
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: how is the fight for B?
danigabi [6d\]: seems small to me
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: maybe just c14
Rocker [4d\]: u must!
Orc [4d\]: pros normally take a fan with them, even in winter
danigabi [6d\]: c14, F16
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: i was thinking the same thing, danigabi
Ignort [6k\]: i saw an oza where shuko was smoking and just assumed that was how its done...  cant smoke in tourneys, thouhg?
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;B[lp]C[Moyonnaise [?\]: danigabi, You're right. "a move that forces the opponent to commit to a strategy" could describe a kikashi that makes the opponent heavy, which would not be a probe. "A move that forces your opponent to choose one of several strategies, allowing you to choose your own." :)
Rocker [4d\]: hmmm
Terminator [8k\]: wot?
jersta [16k\]: m4 hane? :0
oddalot [7k\]: l4?
Rocker [4d\]: maybe this is smarter before k4
danigabi [6d\]: moyonnaise
Kyuss [1k\]: l4 l3 i think
danigabi [6d\]: :P
Rocker [4d\]: n3
Breaker [1k?\]: n4
Terminator [8k\]: K4
danigabi [6d\]: i dont see the strategic purpose of going out
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: emergency measures
Orc [4d\]: N3
danigabi [6d\]: seems so small
danigabi [6d\]: 10 points tops
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: kind of small and very hard...
Kyuss [1k\]: k4 l3 n3 ?
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: i think c16 was better plan
Orc [4d\]: blk is aiming attaching H3 stones
Rocker [4d\]: u just dun give up such stone without a fight 
Orc [4d\]: attcking*
Orc [4d\]: lol
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: looks like B will get hurt
just9x9 [-\]: btw who won the pairgo yesterday orc?
oddalot [7k\]: so being strong go player in korea is like being a nascar fan in the south or something?
jersta [16k\]: i agree
oddalot [7k\]: very common?
Ignort [6k\]: 10pts + something resembling an attack...
leger [1d\]: ChemBoy613, you could be right; but i feel this fight is good for black
just9x9 [-\]: i feel i need another coffee
cstoner [3k\]: L4 seems natural
Rocker [4d\]: this is a very normal fight, very well expected 
mcw85 [7k\]: Chung and Chang.
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: maybe leger, i think too early, white is very strong
danigabi [6d\]: n3 k4 j6 l6 g6 
danigabi [6d\]:  w safe
danigabi [6d\]: b somewhat safe but still htin in center
Muscadet [?\]: is the b p10 group really strong enough to start a fight ? Good chance that w can develop a double attack
leger [1d\]: p10 isn't weak, good shape
Kyuss [1k\]: danigabi, can w do k4 before m3?
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: maybe, but p10 has very nice shape
leger [1d\]: tough to make profit from attacking p10
danigabi [6d\]: why k4
Kyuss [1k\]: k4 l3 n3 l4 ?
Kyuss [1k\]: or is it k4 n3 ?
danigabi [6d\]: ok, take k4 and l4 off the board
danigabi [6d\]: and think if you would k4
erna [7k\]: As others said, I also play L3 in this situation ....
meuns [2k\]: why not l2 ?
meuns [2k\]: l3*
IGoofy [1d\]: w using his fan. eurogo has maybe farted.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
gojustingo [8k\]: why not O10?
gojustingo [8k\]: nm
meuns [2k\]: xD
mcw85 [7k\]: Take some xantax or tums.
danigabi [6d\]: L3 is bad
danigabi [6d\]: l3 k4 l4 k5 l5 k6 
erna [7k\]: why?
danigabi [6d\]: w damages 1 stone
chute [2k\]: white l3 would commit white to l3 k4 l4 k5 imho - this looks bad for white
danigabi [6d\]: black damages 2
cstoner [3k\]: yeah, l3 hurts j4 group bad
gojustingo [8k\]: o11 is sente
meuns [2k\]: arg
gornuf [19k\]: is there a teacher in here that isnt charging for lessons?
Chilltime [2k\]: looks like in seong is getting crushed
mcw85 [7k\]: O11?
meuns [2k\]: yes
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: most good, regular teachers cost money
Reym: is K6 too far?
cstoner [3k\]: gornuf: You don't need to pay for lessons at your level
Phear [-\]: there are normally plenty of people who will teach a weaker player for free
Kyuss [1k\]: o11 is bad
meuns [2k\]: w isn't really smart in this game ^^
cstoner [3k\]: you can learn plenty without a teacher
leger [1d\]: books are cheap too
lazylong6 [15k\]: at 19 k just read books.
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: study life & death
oddalot [7k\]: books are expensive
lazylong6 [15k\]: its what i still do
Madarame [2d\]: spectators waiting for the super suji
Phear [-\]: at 19k just play games
gornuf [19k\]: yea but im complety broke
Phear [-\]: books and teacher not needed
oddalot [7k\]: they are like 20 bucks a piece, and you can't get them at the library
just9x9 [-\]: want some 9x9 gornuf?
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: helps to have a teacher
Ignort [6k\]: you can get free games for sure ... best teacher=games
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: http://igolibrary.org
Reym: gornuf, no go clubs around?
cstoner [3k\]: gornuf: Check out the go teaching ladder, or ask for reviews in the Beginners' room
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: i had a teacher the whole time and it helped to get good style
IGoofy [1d\]: 1d has no good style at all
gornuf [19k\]: not in short distance. the closest one is 45mins away and i cant drive
jinkidie [15k\]: hey i think i know something... o10 dies in a dorced sequence
Orc [4d\]: u can get 2 4d without a teacher
TakokaT [4k\]: i say at 19k just play a bunch of games and dl smartgo :)
leger [1d\]: sorry Eurogo, but can you move the camera to see both players ?
jinkidie [15k\]: forced sry
mcw85 [7k\]: Kimcan in fourth overall last year.
leger [1d\]: thanks, almost there, 
gogonuts [4d\]: now comes the part where its good to be strong
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: long time on this move
mcw85 [7k\]: came*
TakokaT [4k\]: also, what are the times for each player?
leger [1d\]: it's good now Eurogo
AURELIE46 [3d\]: K4
gornuf [19k\]: hey tokoka whats dl?
gogonuts [4d\]: n3 normal
jersta [16k\]: can anybody achieve 2d without teachers? :0 seems impossible
jinkidie [15k\]: zoom on clocks and board from time to time is nice too
oddalot [7k\]: plenty of people are 2d no teacher
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: depends on your effort and talent, jersta
Ignort [6k\]: download...
gojustingo [8k\]: l5 ?
danigabi [6d\]: i played the guy standing there
Madarame [2d\]: k4 l3 n3 l4 l6 maybe?
Orc [4d\]: i never had a teacher but some go books
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: i know of someone making chinese 4d in six months
jersta [16k\]: thx chem
danigabi [6d\]: in the white tshirt. I lost at 2 stones..
leger [1d\]: there seems to be a lot of players registered for korea at this european congress
cuby [2k\]: that dude in the green stripes looks like brian peppers
jankenpon: wow this camera is awesome
jersta [16k\]: that means i'm doomed :((
mcw85 [7k\]: Dramatic zoom on the clocks!
cuby [2k\]: oh snap NICE zoomwork! :) :)
jankenpon: it can pick up that clock wow
oddalot [7k\]: omg peppers
oddalot [7k\]: ytmnd for the win
cstoner [3k\]: n3 seems like the only option
cuby [2k\]: dude looks like him
mcw85 [7k\]: Can we get a zoom on the door handle? I love door handles.
alfuij: B 2:12  W 1:54
IGoofy [1d\]: if you need a teacher before 9d you should try chess
cuby [2k\]: here comes 1970's frenchman Neo
oddalot [7k\]: that guy is cool
oddalot [7k\]: wearing sunglasses inside
gogonuts [4d\]: a competent kibitz
gogonuts [4d\]: gone
jinkidie [15k\]: thats a mime
gornuf [19k\]: i pkay chess alot 
chute [2k\]: n4 normal here, would prefer to n3, if on that side
gornuf [19k\]: *play
oddalot [7k\]: european people are so weird ROFL
cstoner [3k\]: IGoofy: I don't know about that. Reviews are incredibly useful. I don't know about needing a teacher, though
cuby [2k\]: red pants.  huh
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: i think n3
gogonuts [4d\]: 80% chance n3
holynec [?\]: i missed the guy wearing sunglasses indoors? fuck
holynec [?\]: whoops
holynec [?\]: !
cuby [2k\]: yowza
cuby [2k\]: my eyes are not a toilet holynec
Ripples [7k\]: wasnt that cornel's daughter that just
Ripples [7k\]: passed?
gojustingo [8k\]: i say 20% L4
jankenpon: yea ripples
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
jersta [16k\]: h3 kosumi seems isolated B it's attacking there?
Ripples [7k\]: cute
cstoner [3k\]: L4 is bad
jankenpon: guess they are playing in next room
mcw85 [7k\]: L4 is no good.
cstoner [3k\]: l4 l3 n3 k4 
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: yes jersta, very standard
Lebron [?\]: I am the King.
Hanne [3k\]: is this the final round ???
gogonuts [4d\]: with me it would be 100% n3 :-)
jankenpon: says "round 4"
oddalot [7k\]: no, 10 rounds this is the 4th correct?
danigabi [6d\]: i think w is considering N4
danigabi [6d\]: n4 m5 k5 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: corect
jersta [16k\]: thx again chem :))
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: rr
rafito [3k\]: what about J6?
danigabi [6d\]: n4 l4 j6  but the shape is funny
Hanne [3k\]: wow, when is this tourney gonna end
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes, 10 of four.
cuby [2k\]: if that kid were any skinnier he's be 2D
mcw85 [7k\]: Four of 10...
liuliu [7k\]: what about k6
Terminator [8k\]: im falling sleep
Terminator [8k\]: why not K4?
liuliu [7k\]: good night
gogonuts [4d\]: j6 or k6 would almost be tenukies
jankenpon: it's always so busy, do players get distracted by the constant passerby?
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: k4 l3 n3 l4 not good shape
cstoner [3k\]: K4 doesn't do much for w and it looks like black escapes
Hanne [3k\]: how much time left?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: door has to stay open because of networkcable
liuliu [7k\]: i think b m4 is over play
cuby [2k\]: so strange how part of go culture includes people coming by and staring at your game
gojustingo [8k\]: if you're playing for money, you gotta expect spectators
jankenpon: yes it's normal in a sense
jankenpon: im just curious :)
Terminator [8k\]: I cant play if people walks around
gogonuts [4d\]: w is trying to keep an attack on the right side group - thats why hes brooding now
mcw85 [7k\]: Any game is like that.
Orc [4d\]: M4 is good move
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: if fighting, no choice but m4
MrZNF [3k\]: lol, m4 overplay?
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: only move localy
Ripples [7k\]: difficult move, it's been like 10 mins ;O
MrZNF [3k\]: than punish it lololol
gojustingo [8k\]: when is the final match pls
pendulum [3k\]: maybe white doesnt like n3 k5, treating black stones lightly, helping blacks middle?
jankenpon: m4 is light and nice
jinkidie [15k\]: I just wonder what the procedure is when some 4 year old runs up and grabs a fistful of stones off the board
Hanne [3k\]: m4 is plain vanilla
oddalot [7k\]: time out?
jankenpon: jinkiedie, easy to recreate
Ripples [7k\]: memorization :p
jankenpon: very easy
cuby [2k\]: they stop clocks and EFFORTLESSLY recreate the board?
gojustingo [8k\]: there are 2 officials
seishiro [6k\]: black just want to start a fight
cstoner [3k\]: Ripples: Yeah, this is the sort of point in the game that can make or break one side
liuliu [7k\]: l4 instead of m4
chute [2k\]: hm - k4 l3 n3 l4 (this all forced) then l6 might be the toughest attack white can launch
gojustingo [8k\]: time keeper and move recorder
oddalot [7k\]: then spank the kid
huffle [1d\]: is m4 better than k4?
cstoner [3k\]: chute: but then the white group on the middle left is still under ]
;W[kp]C[gogonuts [4d\]: wow
leger [1d\]: :)
jankenpon: lol
oddalot [7k\]: ahah i called if sukas
cstoner [3k\]: !!!
oddalot [7k\]: it*
Ripples [7k\]: i thought of l4 :O)
cstoner [3k\]: woah
jankenpon: now black spends 20 seconds
oddalot [7k\]: pwnt
leger [1d\]: no, black will think a while here
just9x9 [-\]: l3 or chicken
seishiro [6k\]: surprise of that move
oddalot [7k\]: that means i'm as good as korean
jankenpon: n3 ?
leger [1d\]: you need to respect your opponent at this point, and assume he's read everything
gogonuts [4d\]: k4
mcw85 [7k\]: I don't like this.
just9x9 [-\]: k4 eventually
DickOne [3d\]: long thinking produce stinky hand
IGoofy [1d\]: do they use fans of different flavour ?
cstoner [3k\]: agreed, leger, especially after he thought for well over 10 minutes
twold [2k\]: k4 k5 l3 l5 n3 seems ok
danigabi [6d\]: w was reading the following fight, i think: k4 k5 l3 l5 n3 m2 n2 n4 m5 m6 n5 o4 m1 o5 l2 m3 m2 n6 j2 h2 k1 l11 
jankenpon: igoofy i wonder the same thing
danigabi [6d\]: exccellent move by white!
danigabi [6d\]: i missed the squeeze altogether
reality [8k\]: you mean L4?
Jadeite [?\]: what flavour do fans come in?
gogonuts [4d\]: i just cant believe that L4 will produce a good result
twold [2k\]: lol dani, you're embarrasing us ^^
danigabi [6d\]: Since i know noeone will follow the sequence
danigabi [6d\]: ill open a clone
Cassis0 [5d\]: good :)
reality [8k\]: good :)
pendulum [3k\]: k4 k5 l5 l3 k6 j5 m6  ?
jankenpon: no thanks to following
jersta [16k\]: which room dani?
Orc [4d\]: blk can make live after capturing M3 stone, isnt it?
suechan [5d\]: h2 
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;B[kq]C[Ignort [6k\]: k4 whites off the hook
Terminator [8k\]: now L5
Hanne [3k\]: now k4
Kyuss [1k\]: i played it offline
oddalot [7k\]: hey baby
holynec [?\]: come back!
oddalot [7k\]: on oes brian peppers
leger [1d\]: k4 or l5 only moves ? to be honest, i haven't tried reading at all, but nothing else seems okay
oddalot [7k\]: watch out!!
]
;W[ko]
;B[nq]C[Terminator [8k\]: after all that thinking W is gonna play K4
Terminator [8k\]: not*
holynec [?\]: tesuji after tesuji!
jankenpon: n4
leger [1d\]: w will eventually need points
Muscadet [?\]: great
tonyp [3d\]: I would consider M2
leger [1d\]: m2 n3 
leger [1d\]: no ?
oddalot [7k\]: wow they talked
Ignort [6k\]: if a tesuji gets counter tesujied is it still a tesuji?
oddalot [7k\]: first time i hear people talk during
MegaStrong [1k\]: N3?
tonyp [3d\]: m2 n3 n4
danigabi [6d\]: only if it still works
wintogo [7d\]: black should capture the white stone
holynec [?\]: who is that
Terminator [8k\]: but is W turn
danigabi [6d\]: im not so sure wintogo
cstoner [3k\]: n3?
danigabi [6d\]: the squeeze is painful
oddalot [7k\]: eurotrash girl!
microfiche [14k\]: eurotrash boyfriend
wintogo [7d\]: no problem
leger [1d\]: if you think a move is tesuji and it's counter-tesujied, then it was an overplay in the beginning
holynec [?\]: haha
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;W[mq]
;B[np]C[MegaStrong [1k\]: haha, score :)
twold [2k\]: unless that counter tesuji is also counter tesujied :-)
wintogo [7d\]: black is terrible
gogonuts [4d\]: i thing w must be starting to regret L4 allready
jankenpon: i wonder if black actually read all this out
gogonuts [4d\]: b is fine imo
terminatrx [2d\]: i think black is just fine here 
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;W[nr]
;B[or]C[Ignort [6k\]: yummy corner
danigabi [6d\]: o2 looks bad
gogonuts [4d\]: its all L4 imo
xxxstar [7d\]: w is fine.
leger [1d\]: can this exchange be any good for white ? .. doesn't look so to me
Georg [1d\]: i didnt like h3 ...
Cassis0 [5d\]: n2
leger [1d\]: but there wasn't much to do maybe
Muscadet [?\]: looks like 05 was beter shape than o6
Dogen [5k\]: P4 for W?
maciek [1d\]: white q2?
gogonuts [4d\]: hm, all the 7ds liking w
gogonuts [4d\]: i cant agree
terminatrx [2d\]: i hope w wins though
Dogen [5k\]: then N2 N4
jankenpon: maybe white gains solidity + sente
Dogen [5k\]: that looks good for W
Orc [4d\]: good 4 blk here
danigabi [6d\]: if n2 p3 gets captured
oddalot [7k\]: oh no a girl, the nerds only weakness!
holynec [?\]: how many viewers before tv crashes
gogonuts [4d\]: b will get a lot, plus k3 and L3 will retain some aji
Ignort [6k\]: whites points?  losing corner bad
maciek [1d\]: white q2
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 12000
gogonuts [4d\]: plus w lost time
seishiro [6k\]: n2
xxxstar [7d\]: w will p4.. lol
oddalot [7k\]: 12000 omg
holynec [?\]: is it me or is the stream lagging
Hanne [3k\]: q2 = the horror the horror
maciek [1d\]: p4 for sure?
maciek [1d\]: q2 nice horror
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: todays connection not as good as before; i dont know why
Violence [-\]: by 12000, do you mean... over nine THOUSAND?!?!?!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
Terminator [8k\]: P4
Emichi [?\]: héhé
maciek [1d\]: q2!
oddalot [7k\]: connection is fine, what are you talking bout
maciek [1d\]: come on white...its not a chess!!!
maciek [1d\]: play!
chute [2k\]: n2 p4 q3 q4 q2 p6 is a crow's nest - white cannot q2
Jadeite [?\]: 4chon grrrr
cstoner [3k\]: *facepalm* even kgs cannot escape dumb 4chan memes :(
Violence [-\]: not a 4chan meme, in fac.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
sloy [1d\]: black does not seem to be in a such terrible situation...
Violence [-\]: fact^
maciek [1d\]: q2 n2 p1 m2 n5 n4 
gogonuts [4d\]: i think L4 lost the game
saiiscool [4d\]: n2
icanhazgo [13k?\]: i lost the game
cstoner [3k\]: ... I hate you icanhazgo
cstoner [3k\]: in a friendly way
icanhazgo [13k?\]: my bad
Yanwangye [-\]: XD
oddalot [7k\]: brian peppers is stalking this game bad
maciek [1d\]: zzzzzzzzzz
A1R [8k\]: where can i find the pairings of round 4?
Jadeite [?\]: who is brian peppers?
Ignort [6k\]: what the farooq is a brian peppers?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hi Artem92!
mcw85 [7k\]: You can't.
yuko [20k?\]: sorry i just got here, are either of these guys pros?
erna [7k\]: Anyone knows, who Pop Christian plays against?
mcw85 [7k\]: Neither are pro.
leger [1d\]: yuko, it's an amateur tournament
Onmyoji [2d\]: there are pros in this tournament
holynec [?\]: pros are playing in it though
mcw85 [7k\]: No, there are pros playing.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 3 pros participate
the1906 [3d\]: p4
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;W[mr]C[SeoTaiji [1k\]: they look really serious
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;B[op]
;W[mp]C[yuko [20k?\]: thank u
pendulum [3k\]: lol ! why not P4 ?
Onmyoji [2d\]: this is the first hard game for them
yuko [20k?\]: are they euro 7th dans?
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes
kane955 [4k\]: becuase pen you would p4
SeoTaiji [1k\]: pro qre dinerchtein and catalin
SeoTaiji [1k\]: are*
yuko [20k?\]: ty
LGLifeGood [1d?\]: P6
yuko [20k?\]: there are a couple mroe
yuko [20k?\]: i think aren't there?
cstoner [3k\]: both of whom lost their games last round :(
Dogen [5k\]: why are "pros" allowed to play in this tournament with amateurs?
pendulum [3k\]: no, a 7d would also p4 kane
Yanwangye [-\]: w q3? is this bad?
the1906 [3d\]: are u sure p4 was better than n2?
leger [1d\]: q3 is not for now
Ignort [6k\]: who cares if you dont have to pay them ;)
mcw85 [7k\]: Yuan Chang.
Mikki62 [2k\]: b tenuki?
oddalot [7k\]: korean toddler is stronger than european pro
papamisha [2d\]: it seems black is leading, isnt it?
Terminator [8k\]: why not Dogen?
leger [1d\]: maybe black plays an extension to d16 along the left side now ?
kane955 [4k\]: didnt know you spoke on behalf of 7dans pen
Jadeite [?\]: oddalot, do you mean to be insulting?
the1906 [3d\]: c11?
xxxstar [7d\]: b will play safe...
Emichi [?\]: o5
oddalot [7k\]: depends on who i am insulting
Terminator [8k\]: pros make the tournament more interesting, they ad quality
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;B[fc]C[the1906 [3d\]: very safe true
xxxstar [7d\]: L11..
xxxstar [7d\]: intuition.
xxxstar [7d\]: ha
Hanne [3k\]: tenuki rules
StefanRadu [2d?\]: L11 - hyperspace boshi
the1906 [3d\]: q7 is weak so black will live there
oddalot [7k\]: q3 isn't big?
Chilltime [2k\]: no
leger [1d\]: iddalot not at all
cstoner [3k\]: not yet, odd. Also, it's gote
StefanRadu [2d?\]: big yose maybe
oddalot [7k\]: ahh
chute [2k\]: aji keshi
the1906 [3d\]: big
the1906 [3d\]: q is big
the1906 [3d\]: q3 is big;P
Chilltime [2k\]: no?
StefanRadu [2d?\]: but gote. 
the1906 [3d\]: the question is how big?:)
StefanRadu [2d?\]: and there are bigger
StefanRadu [2d?\]: so.
StefanRadu [2d?\]: that means.  its small
cstoner [3k\]: q3 bad bad bad
leger [1d\]: saving or killing p3 ends gote for both players
the1906 [3d\]: q3 cant be bad
leger [1d\]: so now urgent at all
Ignort [6k\]: big points  .  might be worth it.
leger [1d\]: *not
the1906 [3d\]: q3 might be not the biggest
Ryoji [2k\]: i know both ^^
the1906 [3d\]: but its very good move
Chilltime [2k\]: if u are living in a house with 3 people the size of 150 kg and u are only 100kg it means u are small ^^
chute [2k\]: white cannot save p3 anyway - the crow's nest still there
oddalot [7k\]: gote for both players?
chute [2k\]: thus q3 just gives about 2points
the1906 [3d\]: yeah!
cstoner [3k\]: q3 would kill that white group above it, no?
chute [2k\]: y, threatens it
StefanRadu [2d?\]: yeah.. we learn every day new stuff about go.. today lessons..  there is also terms like "gote for both"
Muscadet [?\]: q3 is bigger than r 18 for w?
Ryoji [2k\]: who is that girl? ^^
Ignort [6k\]: w q3 = peep = lives
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;W[bd]C[chute [2k\]: but there are other ways to threaten it, black might need them for his o8 group
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: girlfriend of In-Seong
]
;B[cd]C[chute [2k\]: ... ergo: q3 is bad
]
;W[be]
;B[bc]
;W[bb]C[Chilltime [2k\]: q2 is biggest move in that are isnt it?
Chilltime [2k\]: area*
gogonuts [4d\]: b16 is instructive, L11 without a good result would loose outright
StefanRadu [2d?\]: yeah. the biggest sente move.
StefanRadu [2d?\]: and yet. its not sente enough
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;B[ac]C[kumbhaka [3d\]: how much time do they have?
gogonuts [4d\]: oh, a17 looks fishy
Umaguma [3k\]: what does "b16 instructive" ? 
cstoner [3k\]: strange, I thought b18 looked fishy :)
liger [6k\]: really?  I can't imagine anything other than a17....
the1906 [3d\]: white need luck to win this game?
Chilltime [2k\]: white needs a mirale
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;W[ch]C[gogonuts [4d\]: first make sure that the balance of terretories isnt completely destroyed
Chilltime [2k\]: miracle
Hanne [3k\]: white need jesus
]
;B[qb]C[Ignort [6k\]: f17 puts the kibosh on that nonsense
the1906 [3d\]: yeah miracle
Onmyoji [2d\]: jesus cant help white
Chilltime [2k\]: this b is definitly strong as a pro
gogonuts [4d\]: and a17 gave w some hope
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: why didnt u guys reminded me  that my ad was still on
mcw85 [7k\]: You didn't tell us to.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i had forgotten to take it of air
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry
oddalot [7k\]: it's so enjoyable
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
mcw85 [7k\]: Why? You should leaveit.
Terminator [8k\]: which ad?
oddalot [7k\]: r16 here?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: on the TV feed
oddalot [7k\]: s176?
Ryoji [2k\]: i thought it has to be there making us want to be an vip
oddalot [7k\]: s17
Chilltime [2k\]: tenuki i think
ciyiben [4k\]: me too
StefanRadu [2d?\]: ineed.
A1R [8k\]: is that boy thomas debarre?
Muscadet [?\]: so r 18 seems to be larger than q3 !
StefanRadu [2d?\]: indeed^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, but 2 minutes during the game, not 20 minutes
Chilltime [2k\]: maybe something in the h17 area
Chilltime [2k\]: g17 maybe?
oddalot [7k\]: e14?
StefanRadu [2d?\]: j16 seems resonable.
ciyiben [4k\]: or k16
Chilltime [2k\]: hm i would play close to left top group because of the aji
gogonuts [4d\]: ask at g17?
Sakeus [-\]: h17 umm maybe not bad :) 
yuko [20k?\]: wow
Chilltime [2k\]: gogo maybe g17 isnt so good because of f16?
yuko [20k?\]: there's a huge difference in time left
A1R [8k\]: omg w 1:19 left
Chilltime [2k\]: solidifies the area
seppy [?\]: who is ahead?
Ignort [6k\]: j16 looks like best suggestion
yuko [20k?\]: white has only 1 hour
Chilltime [2k\]: b is ahead
yuko [20k?\]: black has 2
leger [1d\]: 1 hour and 19 minutes
Onmyoji [2d\]: attack p10 
Onmyoji [2d\]: kill
Onmyoji [2d\]: it
Ignort [6k\]: j16 then attack?
Umaguma [3k\]: looksa like a hard kill.. 
yuko [20k?\]: p10?
yuko [20k?\]: i can kill that
yuko [20k?\]: u can kill that?
Onmyoji [2d\]: see?
yuko [20k?\]: typo
Onmyoji [2d\]: even 20k can kill it
yuko [20k?\]: didnt mean i can
yuko [20k?\]: lol
liger [6k\]: there will be no killing of p10
Mikki62 [2k\]: first k18 then l13?
Mikki62 [2k\]: k16*
Eyecon [7k\]: resign
liger [6k\]: no
Kyuss [1k\]: b seems behind to me
Umaguma [3k\]: looks to me b has more potential ? / 
gogonuts [4d\]: b has teh better position, but no way in hell will w resign here
Eyecon [7k\]: sleeve tesuji
Onmyoji [2d\]: w has all center, remember p10 is dead
Kyuss [1k\]: doesnt b have less territory, gogonuts?
Mikki62 [2k\]: where would u play dani?
yuko [20k?\]: onmuoji how is p dead?
gogonuts [4d\]: no
dohsaku [1d?\]: b good pos
yuko [20k?\]: p10*
Kyuss [1k\]: he was joking yujo
gogonuts [4d\]: g17 to make b pay for a17
Kyuss [1k\]: yuko*
yuko [20k?\]: lol
Ignort [6k\]: resign?  and i think blacks got it but suggesting resignation 73 moves into atouney game seems dumb
jinkidie [15k\]: w o10 n10 o11 o12 p11 q11 dead so the cut is broke. I tink
liger [6k\]: I haven't counted, but I don't see how you could say that black has less territory
yuko [20k?\]: i just thought since i was so newbish maybe i couldnt see it
Ignort [6k\]: * a tourney
chute [2k\]: true, jinkidie - that is part of, why this shape is called strong above
tsuchigumo [-\]: The game still looks open to me
oddalot [7k\]: i could lose this game easy
gdghgjd [1d\]: did black win against oh chimin last round?
Muscadet [?\]: difficult for w - the left side is very thin and he has little potential to make a large territory. So he has to live at the top  without making b strong to make crumbles of the left
mcw85 [7k\]: yes
Onmyoji [2d\]: b+time
cstoner [3k\]: what are the byo-yomi settings?
zavion [2k?\]: who is b?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 1 min byoyomi
microfiche [14k\]: b is on left
Eyecon [7k\]: no way white can win; if white wins I will troll in EGR until I'm banned
gornuf [19k\]: 1min byo ymi with one period
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
zavion [2k?\]: no i mean.. is he korean insei or something?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: both were
Rocker [4d\]: what was the answer to m4!!?
Yanwangye [-\]: l4
zavion [2k?\]: L4?
Darkover [9k?\]: L4
zifir [-\]: l4
Ignort [6k\]: cooler name :so bongsoo or so nunwook?
jinkidie [15k\]: I wonder if w can throw a stone in there that would make the cut work
Rocker [4d\]: danke
zifir [-\]: bitte
Yanwangye [-\]: bitte x)
zavion [2k?\]: :)
zavion [2k?\]: someone would definatly cut you if you threw a stone in there ;)
zavion [2k?\]: definitely*
cstoner [3k\]: I love how b is sitting right now
cstoner [3k\]: very gargoyle-ish
yuko [20k?\]: lol
Ignort [6k\]: tengen?
yuko [20k?\]: anyone read/watch deathnote
yuko [20k?\]: L
Onmyoji [2d\]: dinerstein style
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
holynec [?\]: i love everybody here
oddalot [7k\]: d14
just9x9 [-\]: we love u too holynec
Ignort [6k\]: ew
Farouche [-\]: I would tend to say that it is more Dinerchtein who plays like them than the opposite
yuko [20k?\]: holynec lol
mcw85 [7k\]: Are you a girl?
holynec [?\]: no
Onmyoji [2d\]: no i meant the sitting style
mcw85 [7k\]: Eww/
woidler [6k?\]: because only girls love!
just9x9 [-\]: lol onmy
yuko [20k?\]: haha
holynec [?\]: I was only kidding, hope i didnt get your hopes up
holynec [?\]: hah ;D
just9x9 [-\]: at least having a sitting style. that will be my next aim :))
oddalot [7k\]: where's the love holynec?
Ignort [6k\]: still creepy...
mcw85 [7k\]: You were the love of my life for 3 seconds.
Ignort [6k\]: you cant trust that semicolon...
sameasyou [2d\]: hey chwan...u almost had artem beaten yesterday :)
cstoner [3k\]: hello chwan :)
Ruutana [?\]: c4 looks slow...
mcw85 [7k\]: White thinks it is Bs move.
yuko [20k?\]: lol
sameasyou [2d\]: lag?
SergeyASh [13k\]: p3 - This stone ambushes: w q3 q4 q2 
Mikki62 [2k\]: a18?
Om [7k\]: any tv for this game?
Ruutana [?\]: White played C4
yuko [20k?\]: yeah
Ruutana [?\]: Then black g3.
gdghgjd [1d\]: they move
leger [1d\]: Om, there were 200 ways for you to find out without asking
Isobeutel [2d?\]: they are lresdy playin? why is EuroGo1 not moving?
copyright [2d\]: g2 
oddalot [7k\]: h2
cstoner [3k\]: This game needs to be updated. c4 g3 h2 
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Harry sees it
jersta [16k\]: is eurogo farted away? :0
jinkidie [15k\]: someone fell asleeep
Ignort [6k\]: c4?  that is slw..  thought he had to attack?\\
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Didn't you see him on camera? :P
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: where did white play?
oddalot [7k\]: h2
Ruutana [?\]: Hehe
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;W[cp]C[Isobeutel [2d?\]: Euro go, u missed c4 g3
]
;B[gq]
;W[hr]C[Ruutana [?\]: Yay!
diesel [1d\]: yep :-)
]
;B[id]C[itepilah [3k\]: thats right
Isobeutel [2d?\]: jo
cstoner [3k\]: haha, both players are away from the board
Eyecon [7k\]: someone turn the board round quick
Vogel [1k\]: lunch?
oddalot [7k\]: i trained long and hard as troll understudy on irc
cstoner [3k\]: b+res
microfiche [14k\]: what's troll?
gornuf [19k\]: ur mom
yuko [20k?\]: i have a question
Jadeite [?\]: google it
cstoner [3k\]: lol gornuf
yuko [20k?\]: why hasnt white gone with q3
Ignort [6k\]: wiki it
oddalot [7k\]: rofl
microfiche [14k\]: and why would anyone go on irc?
Yanwangye [-\]: who looks better?
mcw85 [7k\]: 2 small
oddalot [7k\]: have to d14 or somewhere right?
Onmyoji [2d\]: i think its gote and might be trouble for q6 
chute [2k\]: i told so above: q3 q4 threatens a crow's nest p6
Mikki62 [2k\]: its not big eough jet, yuko
yuko [20k?\]: i c
microfiche [14k\]: i like the effect the camera gives to the pinstripes
chute [2k\]: then black captures by q2 and so o
chute [2k\]: *so on
Rocker [4d\]: any girl player on euro tv?
microfiche [14k\]: are there more matches coming up today?
Jadeite [?\]: Crane's Nest, not crow's 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: not today
microfiche [14k\]: tomorrow?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
microfiche [14k\]: what time and who?
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;W[dq]
;B[br]
;W[bq]
;B[cr]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 10 am local time; who not known yet
jinkidie [15k\]: you'd think e2 would make dogmeat of the corner
oddalot [7k\]: d14!!
microfiche [14k\]: my local time or, what country?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 2 Korean 7d's
chute [2k\]: perhaps, in my language we say "crow"
cstoner [3k\]: chute, what is your language?
chute [2k\]: German
cstoner [3k\]: strange
cstoner [3k\]: not that you speak german, just that german uses crow's nest instead
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;W[gc]C[Larrave [3k\]: hm^^
microfiche [14k\]: someone make some dumplings, I'm getting hungry!
chute [2k\]: the equivalent of crane's nest sounds bulky in German
Tengil [3k\]: it looks more like a crow's nest than a crane's
microfiche [14k\]: eurogo, what time did this game start?
cstoner [3k\]: it the nautical sense, I can see that (the 3 on the bottom would be a boat, the 1 space jump would be the crow's nest)
oddalot [7k\]: pro 4 dan
tm93 [3k\]: e 2
stelios007 [3k\]: to nou sas paidia!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 10 am
Larrave [3k\]: stupid question
Larrave [3k\]: where is this taking place?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: now it is 12.11
stelios007 [3k\]: na ehete nou diaqygi!
tm93 [3k\]: a no sorry 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Groningen, The Netherlands
Umaguma [3k\]: w body language is so stresed 
Jadeite [?\]: lol it's a boat now?
tsuchigumo [-\]: This looks like a tough fight for w
GocchiSama [2d\]: the hotel is very expensive : a bottle of coca :4 euro,no kidding
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: h17
qgo [4k\]: I cannot find today's pairings at the site of the congress? 
microfiche [14k\]: that's why the players brought juice boxes
oddalot [7k\]: why not g16?
tm93 [3k\]: cant b g 16?
oddalot [7k\]: heh
Jadeite [?\]: chute, so most germans call it a crow's nest? or just you
Onmyoji [2d\]: i call it rat's nest
tsuchigumo [-\]: No cranes in Gernmany
oddalot [7k\]: only thing i can think of is f18?
oddalot [7k\]: after g16
chute [2k\]: in English they will probably use the correct "crane's nest" - i had forgotten that
Chilltime [2k\]: still there is the c17 aji
Jadeite [?\]: well anyway, we know what you were talking about, so I guess that's the main thing :)
oddalot [7k\]: still can't se why g16 don't work
qgo [4k\]: lo of adji in b 18 now
chute [2k\]: i do like exactness of language indeed :)
gogonuts [4d\]: ha, found it
gogonuts [4d\]: oops, sorry
just9x9 [-\]: in german they call it kraut nest ;)
gogonuts [4d\]: didnt see there was another exchange before :-)
stelios007 [3k\]: eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eistae oloi adrakia ya sas twra
Umaguma [3k\]: w cant take the stress no longer ;P
qgo [4k\]: G 17 may not go out in to the centre
gogonuts [4d\]: waiting with g17 until b defends one more time is really cool if it works :-)
cstoner [3k\]: w is visibly tense right now
jinkidie [15k\]: so. Who gets to the centre fustest with the mostest?
oddalot [7k\]: looks fine to me
just9x9 [-\]: fustest with the mostest?
jinkidie [15k\]: ya
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;B[gd]C[Jadeite [?\]: what language is that?
just9x9 [-\]: maybe fastest?
jinkidie [15k\]: Southern states
oddalot [7k\]: wow simple move works
jinkidie [15k\]: tadaaa
yuko [20k?\]: oh oh the fan is out
just9x9 [-\]: f18?
Isobeutel [2d?\]: lol
eviiL [-\]: what
eviiL [-\]: lol
eviiL [-\]: lol
Isobeutel [2d?\]: fan /off
]
;W[ec]C[eviiL [-\]: whats the link for the tv broadcast _
just9x9 [-\]: www.evil.com
turk [6d\]: d17?
eviiL [-\]: ha ha
eviiL [-\]: ..
yuko [20k?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
jinkidie [15k\]: hm... w could stiffen up the left side, or start a second layer of stones on top of it
eviiL [-\]: thx mate
yuko [20k?\]: np
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;B[ed]
;W[fb]
;B[fd]
;W[cb]C[Zairex [2k\]: livess
turk [6d\]: e16 too simple
qgo [4k\]: blacks nightmare
yuko [20k?\]: c17 too small?
turk [6d\]: ?
zc3k [1k\]: big
cstoner [3k\]: c17 would be profit in sente
cstoner [3k\]: for w
turk [6d\]: c17 for b or w?
killo: I see a ko
turk [6d\]: no, c17 for w does not work
yuko [20k?\]: for black i dont understand why he's thinking so much
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;B[cc]C[turk [6d\]: it is more like regret...
yuko [20k?\]: oh 
yuko [20k?\]: hoe vomrz/
]
;W[db]
;B[gb]C[oddalot [7k\]: now b has huge wall
]
;W[ga]C[yuko [20k?\]: lmao regret
]
;B[hc]
;W[ab]
;B[ha]
;W[fa]C[Umaguma [3k\]: w "phew"
Juergonaut [4d\]: :-()
Farouche [-\]: Huge almost useless wall because W is solid everywhere?
Onmyoji [2d\]: not solid left side
yuko [20k?\]: damn it i wish the board was being updated more often
yuko [20k?\]: i cant tell by the video
microfiche [14k\]: the board is updated from what I'm seeing.
qgo [4k\]: dear Yuko, Eurogo does not have four hands
yuko [20k?\]: i know
Orc [4d\]: its already very fast
yuko [20k?\]: :(
seppy [?\]: e18?
JeanVidToi [6k\]: d19 
Jadeite [?\]: patience
cstoner [3k\]: I just wish I could stay awake to see how these games end. It's just not the same to replay them the day after
oddalot [7k\]: it's alive
seppy [?\]: e18 kills?
cstoner [3k\]: no. It's alive, seppy
gornuf [19k\]: then stay up
kane955 [4k\]: its easier to think with them
turk [6d\]: b needs some strong plays
oddalot [7k\]: d13?
seppy [?\]: e18 e19 d17
liger [6k\]: no you stay up
just9x9 [-\]: e18 then 4 in a row alive
Zairex [2k\]: e18
IGoofy [1d\]: counter strike 
Mikki62 [2k\]: ...e18
Onmyoji [2d\]: why?
IGoofy [1d\]: c10
liger [6k\]: I was about to ask....
poirette [1d\]: e18 only ko threat
kiddai [8k?\]: yes
seppy [?\]: e18 then?
microfiche [14k\]: I'd much rather the black wall on top, than whites corner.
Onmyoji [2d\]: e18 e19 
qgo [4k\]: what will b do with his sente?
liger [6k\]: e nothing
terminatrx [2d\]: black still has tu utilize this wall
seppy [?\]: uhh sorry
cstoner [3k\]: microfiche, the wall is less useful because of the white position on the left
Zairex [2k\]: iie
Mikki62 [2k\]: after ur sequenze, seppy.... e18
pendulum [3k\]: this game is way far from finished
chute [2k\]: c11 and crosscut ?
qgo [4k\]: b attack left side?
tsuchigumo [-\]: I like c 10 also.
microfiche [14k\]: its a problem., yes
poirette [1d\]: game seems very undicided yet to me
turk [6d\]: anything around the c10 area?
Isobeutel [2d?\]: timr for the players left?
Muscadet [?\]: The left is not solid!
bensenseii [-\]: W alive
Isobeutel [2d?\]: thx
oddalot [7k\]: black needs to make use of the wall now ?
Mikki62 [2k\]: where is oh chi min?
alfuij: B 1:43 W 0:58
IGoofy [1d\]: in hanoi
Muscadet [?\]: Perhaps b can even take b3 first, w can not enlarge the left with all those weak points
qgo [4k\]: end of middlegame? endgame now?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Oh Chimin is playing Ilia Shikshin
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;B[eh]C[jinkidie [15k\]: wallet tesuji!
eviiL [-\]: shikshin wears a green shirt
chute [2k\]: no, middlegame, until p10 has 2 eyes at least
microfiche [14k\]: I don't know why people come and go... you don't get anything from glimpses.
Mikki62 [2k\]: thx :(
qgo [4k\]: who's playing Van Zeijst?
Kurotsu [1k\]: E12 seems too slow
Gonzalate [2d\]: and zhang yanqi ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Antoine Fenech
bensenseii [-\]: J'ai pas vu Yanqi moi =p
Kurotsu [1k\]: why not shoulder hit when he has that great wall?
qgo [4k\]: thank you Euro
kane955 [4k\]: e12 huge
turk [6d\]: which zhang yanqi? the lady VP of chinese weiqi association?
Mikki62 [2k\]: is s14 save?
zc3k [1k\]: aha all mates here@
qgo [4k\]: Euro, any poker going on there?
kane955 [4k\]: its nice becuase it serves more then one purpose
microfiche [14k\]: I think this is good move, because I think w is as reluctant about the middle as b
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: every evening poker tournaments
qgo [4k\]: you're kidding
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: next wednesday big deep stack championship
qgo [4k\]: pulling my legg
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;W[df]C[Muscadet [?\]: b13, c10, c8, c7 all possible moves for b to follow up
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: true
qgo [4k\]: you win?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: orginised by Tobias Berben of Hecsacker Verlag
]
;B[ci]C[qgo [4k\]: no advertising
zc3k [1k\]: Hi EuroGo@
zavion [2k?\]: ^^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i played 2 times; 1 shared first place
qgo [4k\]: good
IGoofy [1d\]: is it allow to poker for money outside the casinos ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
kane955 [4k\]: muscadet good thing its not a dart board cuz you missed all three times
acellist1 [4k\]: every move seems  logical, very few esoteric moves
zc3k [1k\]: both korean?
eviiL [-\]: I wanna participate but I dont dare to .. <.<
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes zc3k
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
zc3k [1k\]: too strong
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;W[dh]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: do you see the VIP-ad?
zavion [2k?\]: yep
IGoofy [1d\]: sure
jinkidie [15k\]: yes
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: klick on it
zavion [2k?\]: link works
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: then klick on paying
zavion [2k?\]: :P
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: then pay
kane955 [4k\]: d12 feels like a spartan tactic
jersta [16k\]: :P
microfiche [14k\]: I'm bankrupt... can I have a membership on credit?
zc3k [1k\]: D11 possible?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sure
BenSenTen [?\]: any chinese player get to round 4?
cstoner [3k\]: d12 is a mutual destruction tactic 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: write a beggingletter to bankrupt@eurogotv.com
IGoofy [1d\]: vip member  gets live broadcasts from eurogos strip poker after dark
]
;B[cj]C[microfiche [14k\]: you kill me euro
zavion [2k?\]: tobias berben strips? nahhh thx
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
IGoofy [1d\]: lol
]
;W[dk]
;B[ej]
;W[ei]
;B[fi]C[zc3k [1k\]: :-))
]
;W[di]
;B[dj]
;W[fh]
;B[gi]C[oddalot [7k\]: b not getting much out of wall it seems
tsuchigumo [-\]: well, b has split left side
]
;W[eg]
;B[dm]C[cuby [2k\]: b really knows what he's doing :P
]
;W[cm]
;B[bk]C[che [-\]: playing quite fast atm
IGoofy [1d\]: its rarely good if you know too much
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
tsuchigumo [-\]: and w has to live small on both sides
kane955 [4k\]: black trying to get e9 and d8 in sente?
cuby [2k\]: if w b8, b b5?
cuby [2k\]: leads to wall on outside
zc3k [1k\]: looks b more power on
qgo [4k\]: now endgame?
microfiche [14k\]: haha
zc3k [1k\]: seems
qgo [4k\]: where are the points?
]
;W[em]C[Saimon [1d\]: both left and right black groups are not alive yet
zc3k [1k\]: anywhere
]
;B[bl]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: is rustysword playing at the tournament?
qgo [4k\]: how many points biggest move now?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
microfiche [14k\]: I keep thinking the fans are chopsticks and they're gonna play stones with them
gornuf [19k\]: K11
Vogel [1k\]: good point
norgkost [12k\]: "who cares, I'm outta here"
zc3k [1k\]: now Not much more to yummy one
tabla1 [1d\]: I wouldn't want to be whitr from now on...
]
;W[fk]C[Vogel [1k\]: double attack in progress
]
;B[en]C[Saimon [1d\]: who is joon sang kim?
gornuf [19k\]: ur mom
jinkidie [15k\]: by b u mean? vogel
qgo [4k\]: microfiche, can you pick-up a go stone with chopsticks and iff yes, would that be with Japanese or with Chinese chopsticks?
duha: kgs nick?
Vogel [1k\]: by w ^^
TomGo [1k\]: korean go player :)
tsuchigumo [-\]: Terrific shape fight
microfiche [14k\]: aren't they both korean?
Saimon [1d\]: he's which rank in korea?
TomGo [1k\]: yep
tabla1 [1d\]: unless we see a major upset all will live in the end and black stays ahead on territory
jinkidie [15k\]: b's three duagonal stones look dual purpose to me...
zc3k [1k\]: i think all korean r fighter like their culture in long history? hehe
pacman314 [15k\]: lol
microfiche [14k\]: they have seoul.
tsuchigumo [-\]: w has a shape problem here?
microfiche [14k\]: sorry, couldn't resist the pun
Saimon [1d\]: what an excellent pun ..
]
;W[dn]
;B[fm]
;W[el]C[qgo [4k\]: microfiche, I like your sense of humor. 
IGoofy [1d\]: w using his fan in a weed style
microfiche [14k\]: I here all week try the fish
qgo [4k\]: fish behind the dykes?
microfiche [14k\]: qgo... that's like right over my head.
jinkidie [15k\]: wel well b is finally having a think
Cassis0 [5d\]: b thinking about f8
qgo [4k\]: over there in Groningen 3 mtrs below ANP?
Cassis0 [5d\]: c8 d8 f8 e9 g9 ? 
qgo [4k\]: or sharks in the poker event?
FlohGo [1k\]: hi seolki
]
;B[cl]C[gogonuts [4d\]: wow, great result for w in the top right
]
;W[dl]
;B[fj]
;W[gk]
;B[ho]C[gogonuts [4d\]: a17 really was a big failure
zavion [2k?\]: u mean left?
gogonuts [4d\]: sry
gogonuts [4d\]: yes :-)
zavion [2k?\]: :)
Mikki62 [2k\]: but b ahead....?
gogonuts [4d\]: possibly ...
gogonuts [4d\]: but w back in the game
Mikki62 [2k\]: oh... really?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: d4 group not alive yet
gogonuts [4d\]: but neither is the b group above
zavion [2k?\]: in fact i dont see a single eye if b gets b5
]
;W[hp]C[Mikki62 [2k\]: w in trouble..... seems to me
A1R [8k\]: what says the time eurogotv?
gogonuts [4d\]: w was in great trouble, now w is a little trouble
zavion [2k?\]: :)
Yanwangye [-\]: ^^
Chilltime [2k\]: gogo b is still leading isnt he?
gogonuts [4d\]: i think so too
tsuchigumo [-\]: well w gained 20 points top left but b has destroiyed all of the left side
tsuchigumo [-\]: seems fair result for b
Chilltime [2k\]: i feel the reason is because b hasnt really a weak group
]
;B[gh]C[Isobeutel [2d?\]: j
microfiche [14k\]: white will win because he's related to jong-il.
Slacker [8k?\]: q3 seems juicy
isumikk: umm isnt the top left group still weak? with a move at e18??
Mikki62 [2k\]: seems w has no potential to make territory?
microfiche [14k\]: I hope I don't get kicked for that... that's not true
poirette [1d\]: q2 is the correct w endgame move imho
Chilltime [2k\]: no isumi
Chilltime [2k\]: e18
gogonuts [4d\]: g13
Chilltime [2k\]: e18 e19 d17 b19
gogonuts [4d\]: that b group needs to stay a little unstable
Muscadet [?\]: This e 18 seems to be an eye-catcher
Larrave [3k\]: simultaneously drinking
bobstep [4k?\]: poirette, not q3?
isumikk: oh sorry
Larrave [3k\]: awesome^^
tsuchigumo [-\]: b can live on the side anytime
Orc [4d\]: E18 is just a waste of ko threat
gogonuts [4d\]: drinking the same stuff too
Slacker [8k?\]: q3 looks better than q2
poirette [1d\]: after b q4, w needs o5 or loses all q5 group
Rec [1d?\]: q3 q4 q2 p6 
Slacker [8k?\]: oh
gogonuts [4d\]: black square glasses + green square drinks = 7d
Larrave [3k\]: hehe
Orc [4d\]: why they all wear glasses?
Chilltime [2k\]: this game right now feels quite resignable
Onmyoji [2d\]: so they can see the stones better
zavion [2k?\]: thats because the got their eyes destroyed when they were not that good at the beginning ;)
terminatrx [2d\]: how much time have they left?
leger [1d\]: zoom time ?
leger [1d\]: please ?
gogonuts [4d\]: how about g13, g14, q3, then pray for the left side group
microfiche [14k\]: b about 120 w about 35
terminatrx [2d\]: i rather would like it if he tells me
TomGo [1k\]: @ orc: they need glasses cos  shortsighted. ppl who are not much in the open tend to be shortsighted
sfrex [1k\]: test
gogonuts [4d\]: g13, h13 i mean
qgo [4k\]: counting, counting, what big now?
qgo [4k\]: Q 3?
pcar [8k\]: I think w reading till the last stone
gogonuts [4d\]: q3 looks biggest, but first g13 i think
qgo [4k\]: so do I, pcar
pcar [8k\]: lol
terminatrx [2d\]: s17 is big too
terminatrx [2d\]: but q3 bigger
gogonuts [4d\]: must be depressing, you read to the very last stone and find a loss
tsuchigumo [-\]: w needs to be a little careful about provoking b q4 as p6 could set the w group running
tsuchigumo [-\]: all in all difficult decisions
Slacker [8k?\]: p6 -> o7
tsuchigumo [-\]: read on
suiram [5k\]: when u lose, u can improve
TomiP [2k\]: when you win, you can also improve :P
gogonuts [4d\]: w will be unhappy about L4
Georg [1d\]: w must separate G11 and N11
zum [-\]: when u lose, improve your losing
terminatrx [2d\]: doesnt matter if i lose or win i will always be able to improve because i play so bad ^^
qgo [4k\]: I read on, but the players turn the pages
IGoofy [1d\]: w can resign
derp [1k\]: does b n6 capture?
zum [-\]: get strong at losing in gote
Onmyoji [2d\]: why doesnt w play
terminatrx [2d\]: i wonder if there is a way to attack n11 group
gogonuts [4d\]: because w needs an upset
zavion [2k?\]: hmn what about n6 after q3 q4 r2 (f.e.)
qgo [4k\]: resign is not in one them dictionnaries
pcar [8k\]: could w e2?
qgo [4k\]: IGoofy, act your rank
]
;W[ij]C[IGoofy [1d\]: act ?
jinkidie [15k\]: game over
gogonuts [4d\]: they bring down heaven and earth, then the call that "preparing to resign"
gogonuts [4d\]: i like J10, now that its there
qgo [4k\]: above and under the board
gogonuts [4d\]: casting a shadow on the right side group
]
;B[il]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: "Cleaning the ear"
tsuchigumo [-\]: I love that expression
gogonuts [4d\]: more like "whacking the ear" :-)
Lurifax [8k\]: how much time left on the clock?
gogonuts [4d\]: w must be down to 30 mins
gogonuts [4d\]: cool
harlej9 [2k\]: r14 isnt alive yet
harlej9 [2k\]: right?
gogonuts [4d\]: that group is fine
harlej9 [2k\]: what about r13?
stalkor [4k\]: i wouldnt have thought n11 group would have so much power
qgo [4k\]: in tennis fore-hand battle?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: g7
tsuchigumo [-\]: n11 is a fantastic shape
gogonuts [4d\]: probably q13 against r13
fuzhou [5d\]: h7?
qgo [4k\]: myabe if cut off n 11 still has weak points
gogonuts [4d\]: J8 is a fine shape point
papamisha [2d\]: J9
Orc [4d\]: hard game for white
gogonuts [4d\]: J9 is what w is trying to avoid :-)
harlej9 [2k\]: thx gogonuts
Hanne [3k\]: g9 too weak to attack ..
veteran [1d\]: hard game
qgo [4k\]: press around m16 in sente
gogonuts [4d\]: maybe g7
qgo [4k\]: as Euro said
zum [-\]: Euro kibitzes??
qgo [4k\]: maybe around l 9?
gogonuts [4d\]: m16 not sente at this point
qgo [4k\]: Euro = EuroGoTv
gogonuts [4d\]: he must know :-)
veteran [1d\]: maybe h7
sfrex [1k\]: w will put up a fight
qgo [4k\]: m 16 destrois territorry
harlej9 [2k\]: I bet on h7 too
qgo [4k\]: if not answered
papamisha [2d\]: H7 is interesting
]
;W[hl]C[Georg [1d\]: H7 looks good
IGoofy [1d\]: i prefer h8
Chilltime [2k\]: lol
gogonuts [4d\]: ah, avoiding J9, b h8
zavion [2k?\]: ^^
]
;B[hm]C[zum [-\]: hard game
gogonuts [4d\]: precient game recorder again
zum [-\]: they should play more simple
IGoofy [1d\]: cut and pray
Slacker [8k?\]: cutcutcut
zum [-\]: praypraypray
]
;W[gp]C[gogonuts [4d\]: w not wild about playing J9 :-)
zavion [2k?\]: aiming for g6 ?
gogonuts [4d\]: b answered f4
zum [-\]: G6 not effective
gogonuts [4d\]: the possibility of g6 has significance for eyespace
qgo [4k\]: m 9 might be a vital point of n 11 group
seppy [?\]: eurogo f4!!
Isobeutel [2d?\]: time?
]
;B[fp]C[Slacker [8k?\]: time left?
]
;W[im]C[Slacker [8k?\]: YES
Slacker [8k?\]: cutting time
qgo [4k\]: seppy, please dont hurry EuroGo
zavion [2k?\]: emo?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B 1.28  W 0.21
gogonuts [4d\]: wow
Isobeutel [2d?\]: thx
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: b4
gogonuts [4d\]: a great way to stir up trouble
zc3k [1k\]: too deeep reading
gogonuts [4d\]: it feels a little unnatural, but it gives b good chances to mess up
Isobeutel [2d?\]: u can cook an egg on the heads of the players...
Orc [4d\]: blk and white are really near pro level
tsuchigumo [-\]: nice image beutel
zc3k [1k\]: b has more weak group
qgo [4k\]: is GO a martial art?
Orc [4d\]: korean go is
gogonuts [4d\]: the only thing w is really interested in is the center right b group
Elscouta [2k\]: only if you throw stones to your opponent face
leger [1d\]: not only that, i think w is trying to get b4 in sente
seppy [?\]: w won pro 2  days ago
zc3k [1k\]: aha
gogonuts [4d\]: k8?
gogonuts [4d\]: k8 is the move b wants to play, but hes looking for traps
qgo [4k\]: j 7 cannot be cought
qgo [4k\]: so m9
Hisigi [8k\]: Q3 will be big =)
gogonuts [4d\]: m9 would be terribler
gogonuts [4d\]: ble
gogonuts [4d\]: b must defend J8
Orc [4d\]: I will be unconfortable to take either blk or white
qgo [4k\]: I meant for white
chute [2k\]: i'd be interested in h9g8h10
chute [2k\]: .... if working, good for p10
Orc [4d\]: blk J9? seems to be the shape
kukulis4 [2d\]: black has floating group around P10
kukulis4 [2d\]: and G12 not alive yet
zavion [2k?\]: j9 looks calm and good
qgo [4k\]: if n11 group is cut off it might have to live,
globax [4d\]: k8 is safe
kilp: I find j9 aweful
kilp: removing his own libs
qgo [4k\]: j 8 belongs already to the n11 group
gogonuts [4d\]: k8 is the natural move, but we dont have to do the reading
papamisha [2d\]: but after K8 white also safe
]
;B[hk]
;W[gl]
;B[hj]C[gogonuts [4d\]: nice prediction
zavion [2k?\]: good call chute
gogonuts [4d\]: force w to live locally
tsuchigumo [-\]: b4?
Orc [4d\]: problem is, if white B4, blk is not alive locally
zavion [2k?\]: p14 cutable? this would be a huge territory 
veteran [1d\]: cuttable not qtable
A1R [8k\]: g7? too easy?
LedZepplin [2d\]: lol they just love to think
zc3k [1k\]: nO BLOODY smell?
LedZepplin [2d\]: xD
tsuchigumo [-\]: both live locally
gogonuts [4d\]: maybe only g7 works, but that would be a measly life
papamisha [2d\]: K8 - somehow they have to organize attack
gogonuts [4d\]: seems to me that ws trouble making didnt work
LedZepplin [2d\]: doesnt G6 better?
jersta [16k\]: g6 doesn't works ?
gogonuts [4d\]: forcing b J9 is also terrible
LedZepplin [2d\]: oh no
LedZepplin [2d\]: G7 the best
LedZepplin [2d\]: or G6
LedZepplin [2d\]: lets see
gogonuts [4d\]: g7 lives, but condedes the game :-)
gogonuts [4d\]: concedes
jersta [16k\]: but B won't forced to make bad shape at g6?¿
jinkidie [15k\]: think white will have to fill d7 to keep everything alive?
qgo [4k\]: or is only dame left over in the middle?
globax [4d\]: i would g2
TomGo [1k\]: i would a4
kilp: g2 b4 ?
gogonuts [4d\]: and after w g7, b h6 b has k7
tsuchigumo [-\]: g2 f2 and b is still alive
just9x9 [-\]: g2 profit in sente, but seems w's priviledge anyway
globax [4d\]: of course b lives, but make it samallest
LedZepplin [2d\]: comon what he thinking about XD
Isobeutel [2d?\]: b massags his nose...
LedZepplin [2d\]: lol
gogonuts [4d\]: i think w would like to engineer a semiai with the bottom left b group
IGoofy [1d\]: preparing the boogeys
tsuchigumo [-\]: w must be running short of time to add to his problems
epost [4k?\]: booya
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
gogonuts [4d\]: what noises do those clocks make when time gets short?
LedZepplin [2d\]: hrrrr
LedZepplin [2d\]: pshhh
Hanne [3k\]: they play "wonderwall" from oasis
holynec [?\]: wherere
masek [-\]: wonerwall is to old
masek [-\]: 1995 Year :)
IGoofy [1d\]: mr punch will jump out of the clock
masek [-\]: but Video is really nice
tsuchigumo [-\]: As an aside I find it incredible that the top board at the EGC is played under conditions akin to Picadilly Circus
Hanne [3k\]: this is what makes go so hard
gogonuts [4d\]: you mean us, or the live spectators?
stalkor [4k\]: G6 is life for w isnt it?
holynec [?\]: are you gonna say that everyday, tsuchigumo
Isobeutel [2d?\]: time?
tsuchigumo [-\]: The traffic going past and in/out the door
pooler: those korean players look very young
globax [4d\]: w problem i driving tesuji  b k7,w j6, b j5
IGoofy [1d\]: kyus play in the elevator
jersta [16k\]: hahah
pendulum [3k\]: well i too found it kind of strange...i mean combined with the fact they are playing in a kitchen
A1R [8k\]: i think w has only 1 minute left 
pooler: more like a pantry..
meuns [2k\]: dead !
tsuchigumo [-\]: Really a poor show by the organisers
gogonuts [4d\]: not dead, but struggling for life wont win the game
meuns [2k\]: black is too strong
tsuchigumo [-\]: Or maybe a subtle revenge on the Koreans
tsuchigumo [-\]: They get the prize money but go home nervous wrecks
holynec [?\]: where is Hwang from
pendulum [3k\]: hahaha
Mikki62 [2k\]: is there a way to look at this game later?
pooler: both are koreans..
LionelLee [7k\]: i think he is korean
LionelLee [7k\]: im not very sure... only about 99.99999999%
gogonuts [4d\]: yeah, board 1 should play on cardboard, with plastic stones, in the cellar with dim light
gogonuts [4d\]: and high humidity
jinkidie [15k\]: on a rickety table!
Mikki62 [2k\]: haha
gogonuts [4d\]: and no drinks
]
;W[jm]C[silver2k4 [5d\]: und the trainstation
silver2k4 [5d\]: under*
pendulum [3k\]: hahaah
tsuchigumo [-\]: Next year, free blinkers.
Klapacius [1k?\]: now you hear it beep
gogonuts [4d\]: cardiac arrest
LionelLee [7k\]: in front of a firing squad?
pendulum [3k\]: come on, koreans should get a handicap like that
globax [4d\]: w suppressed the driving problem
tsuchigumo [-\]: Or one of those lampshade shaped things that dogs wear to prevent then scratching their ears
jinkidie [15k\]: Tune in next year, when we will be playing outdoors on runway 260 at Hamburg International!
pendulum [3k\]: hahhaha
silver2k4 [5d\]: could he possibly read the whole semeai
pooler: those 2  packets of drinks look like green tea to me.
Klapacius [1k?\]: each spectator should pay an entry fee of 1 Euro for entering and leaving the room
silver2k4 [5d\]: koreans should get a handicap of 2€
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: each viewer on KGS and EuroGoTV too
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: to me^^
tsuchigumo [-\]: Times Harry?
gogonuts [4d\]: and 50 cents for passing the room :-)
microfiche [14k\]: one girl came in and left after seeing the camera, and she waved goodbye to us, as she backed out.
just9x9 [-\]: koreans should give komi by default, just for being korean :P
globax [4d\]: b g7 severe ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B 1.17  W 0.07.70
tsuchigumo [-\]: Thx
IGoofy [1d\]: we canot give money to a poker junkie
meuns [2k\]: b4 ?
gogonuts [4d\]: that was a ten minute beep?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
silver2k4 [5d\]: 07.70? whats that?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 7 minutes 50 seconds
Isobeutel [2d?\]: u dont know the dutch time sysrem?
bobstep [4k?\]: probably blow it on a pair of deuces
IGoofy [1d\]: it goes from 0-24
qgo [4k\]: poker junkie is looser, harrie is NOT!
Isobeutel [2d?\]: i min = 78 sec
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: check stas of HW9x9 on Pokerstars
silver2k4 [5d\]: ah, now it makes sense
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: stats
Isobeutel [2d?\]: ^^
harlej9 [2k\]: b h6?
gogonuts [4d\]: ithink b has time for J9
qgo [4k\]: IGoofy, you VIP member?
IGoofy [1d\]: no
globax [4d\]: does f6 kill ?
IGoofy [1d\]: lost all my money at poker
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
qgo [4k\]: than you poker junkie
qgo [4k\]: I geuss Harrie won?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, i won all my money by playing poker
globax [4d\]: j9-l9 takes j8
LionelLee [7k\]: eeeks biting his nail
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but i am very poor
SE [-\]: This game is very intriguing
gogonuts [4d\]: b lives in the bottom left as far as i can see
globax [4d\]: so b k8 mandatory
silver2k4 [5d\]: yes lionel thats the special strategie of koreans
qgo [4k\]: pulling my legg again
tsuchigumo [-\]: yes I see b unconditionall alive there too
gogonuts [4d\]: J9 better aji than k8 i think
LionelLee [7k\]: i didnt know that... i guess if i bite my nails i will become 6k
Orc [4d\]: well down eurotv, i play poker 2 but didnt win too much
Orc [4d\]: well done*
IGoofy [1d\]: i once betted a drawing hand on the river in exspectation of another card 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
gogonuts [4d\]: what a tale
kumbhaka [3d\]: time?
LionelLee [7k\]: those 2 guys looks so intimidating
jinkidie [15k\]: under 5 min i bet
gogonuts [4d\]: thats because they are :-)
LionelLee [7k\]: "maybe i can help" face
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Oh Chimin beats Ilia Shikshin
]
;B[fn]C[gogonuts [4d\]: korean clean sweep sofar
qgo [4k\]: what do you guys think, is GO a martial art?
silver2k4 [5d\]: oh
gogonuts [4d\]: thx for the info
globax [4d\]: but k8 leaves l7 hane severe
Orc [4d\]: I dont understand this move at all
Sakeus [-\]: :)
qgo [4k\]: the art of war?
globax [4d\]: arf, b didnt notice the geta l9 ?
Orc [4d\]: blk wants to fight for liberty now?
just9x9 [-\]: sente against left?
LionelLee [7k\]: black was afraid of e5?
globax [4d\]: j9-l9, w+
qgo [4k\]: there are a lot of GO proverbs in the art of war
gogonuts [4d\]: now the w group is dead
Orc [4d\]: if white can't capture J8, then there will be a liberty racing
Laman [2k\]: qgo: proverbs from art of war fit to many situations, not only go
gogonuts [4d\]: w needs something spectacular on the outside
pinpingho [-\]: how would j9 l9 work...
just9x9 [-\]: burn your house and go hunting is my favorite one :)
Orc [4d\]: looks like blk has more liberty
guigue [-\]: maybe white will exchange d4 group with n11 group
tsuchigumo [-\]: yes this is aimed at killing w
gogonuts [4d\]: not just that, i dont think b can be killed
gogonuts [4d\]: b can even give away the right side group now
gogonuts [4d\]: f6 is a cool move
IGoofy [1d\]: i always knew the koreans are the better europeans
sameasyou [2d\]: :)
qgo [4k\]: I know Laman, there is also A weiqi interpetation of Maoist stategi
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;W[bp]C[globax [4d\]: biut j9, then l9 geta
]
;B[bm]C[gogonuts [4d\]: g2
gogonuts [4d\]: nope
sdffdds: w looses this semeai, no?
sameasyou [2d\]: seems so
pinpingho [-\]: j9, l9 doesn't capture...
LionelLee [7k\]: looks like people who plays go like to bite their nails
aaron7280: me too
jinkidie [15k\]: holeee .. he's goin fer the entire corner
tsuchigumo [-\]: w shape in the top part of the group is terrible
pendulum [3k\]: crowded in there
gogonuts [4d\]: but i dont get why b didnt just play g2
albundy [3k\]: biting nail insteading of smoking
sdffdds: b+resign soon
Ukasuhs [1k\]: j9 k8 l9 captures
holynec [?\]: and the mob comes in
IGoofy [1d\]: the crowd is smelling blood
leger [1d\]: a2 ?
just9x9 [-\]: g2 time?
terminatrx [2d\]: semeai ... many shared libs
gogonuts [4d\]: w must try f1 i guess
tsuchigumo [-\]: That Japanese spectator is a very strong player
pendulum [3k\]: i cant understand how P10 group was never under any sort of attack in this game
gogonuts [4d\]: w was working at it
ackordamon [2k\]: what about j9?
gogonuts [4d\]: but now its too small
qgo [4k\]: tsume problem
Sakeus [-\]: j9 is good :)
LiveeviL: e2
Boogeyman [3k\]: a2 ?
IGoofy [1d\]: g2
gogonuts [4d\]: f1, f2, g1, e1, a2, b6
gogonuts [4d\]: one eye against no eye
jinkidie [15k\]: white is outta eyespace! (he screamed, in ddk frenzy)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W entered BY
pendulum [3k\]: minute by ?
tsuchigumo [-\]: poor w
Warfreak2 [5d\]: b also not alive in corner
Levino [6k?\]: time?
microfiche [14k\]: how long is by?
Javaness [2d\]: black has liberty on his side
A1R [8k\]: 1m in
Javaness [2d\]: white, only justice
gogonuts [4d\]: the obituary will read: w never recovered from L4
IGoofy [1d\]: b alive after capturing b3
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;W[ik]
;B[jl]C[pooler: this semeai looks complicated..
Enigmatic [6k\]: timesuji?
qwerty777: r u allowed to listen to a ipod? 
Javaness [2d\]: no
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
tsuchigumo [-\]: lol
Warfreak2 [5d\]: ipods are illegal
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: if ur allowed to leave the table...
qwerty777: aww
Warfreak2 [5d\]: and immoral... and fattening
Ukasuhs [1k\]: the why no ipod
Ukasuhs [1k\]: then*
Javaness [2d\]: it is bad manners to listen to an ipod
sdffdds: now L9?
silver2k4 [5d\]: r u allowed to watch tv or play on your handheld?
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;W[kl]C[Sakeus [-\]: i cant play without music :)
]
;B[jk]C[qwerty777: dunno that's why I'm asking
pinpingho [-\]: l9 don't work
just9x9 [-\]: no l9
gogonuts [4d\]: L9 wasnt a geta
LionelLee [7k\]: white is trying lee sedol's broken ladder strategy?
gogonuts [4d\]: and b can give up the right side group now
just9x9 [-\]: hehe w broken ladder to attack n11
Ukasuhs [1k\]: id assume this is just timesuji
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;W[kk]
;B[jj]C[Slacker [8k?\]: he moved too fast for it to be timesuji
]
;W[hn]C[Enigmatic [6k\]: Wasn't bo 1min/move?
]
;B[gm]
;W[kj]
;B[ii]
;W[lh]C[silver2k4 [5d\]: woa
just9x9 [-\]: see :)
Ruutana [?\]: Vicious.
Javaness [2d\]: fun times
A1R [8k\]: masao style?
gogonuts [4d\]: now q3?
Slacker [8k?\]: so c4 group is dead?
gogonuts [4d\]: yup
sdffdds: stll w should G2, no?
microfiche [14k\]: beautality
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;B[gr]C[E1chh0rn [1k\]: q3 clearly
sameasyou [2d\]: yes...w should g2, e3 and a2
pendulum [3k\]: but c4 is bigger :S
sameasyou [2d\]: damn
LionelLee [7k\]: SE says white win
kjp [1k\]: compensation
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;W[rd]C[Javaness [2d\]: is popic watching?
sameasyou [2d\]: b alive now...w lost
SE [-\]: Hey
LionelLee [7k\]: =)
yabyum [2k\]: never believe SE
SE [-\]: anything can happen
Slacker [8k?\]: hehe SE totally blew up
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;B[rb]C[gogonuts [4d\]: so did b need b7 to kill?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes and breakfast\\
oapj [6k\]: SE says ultraseki
seppy [?\]: q3?
gogonuts [4d\]: wasnt g2 possible instead of b7?
sameasyou [2d\]: :)
SE [-\]: yeah yeah, i'll be right on it ;)
just9x9 [-\]: java stand in corner
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;W[ld]C[pendulum [3k\]: 10/10 joke with admin caps on
zum [-\]: SE too strong
Javaness [2d\]: T_T
pendulum [3k\]: admin bold *
tsuchigumo [-\]: Pity, I would like to have seen the semeai after w f1
gogonuts [4d\]: admins have to press shift for lower case
chute [2k\]: enormous career of black's wall
Pingu007 [3d\]: q3 looks big
zum [-\]: q3 nothing
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;B[lc]C[Javaness [2d\]: Q3 gourman
derp [1k\]: think b q4 sente, threatens n6
kiusasori [2d\]: q3 q4 q2 n6 
kiusasori [2d\]: yes
Kathef [9k\]: se the one
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
]
;W[gs]
;B[fs]C[gogonuts [4d\]: as a quiz, if b didnt have a stone at b7, would w still be dead?
chute [2k\]: black q4 gote - the crane's nest stays in spite of it
gogonuts [4d\]: if so, b7 was a wasted move
Sakeus [-\]: H1!!!
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;W[hs]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry
Sakeus [-\]: :)
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;B[er]C[jinkidie [15k\]: gog i say no
jinkidie [15k\]: a4 potential eye
barakeel [1d\]: why not a 2
barakeel [1d\]: here for black
tsuchigumo [-\]: same difference
gogonuts [4d\]: so you have a proposition for a living move?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: w dead either way
]
;W[md]
;B[mc]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: a2 and e3 miai
Ukasuhs [1k\]: so a2 is no different
Ukasuhs [1k\]: personal preference
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;W[os]C[barakeel [1d\]: ok
Warfreak2 [5d\]: it's difference in ko threats
Warfreak2 [5d\]: not preference
barakeel [1d\]: so e 2 is better
A1R [8k\]: GO IN-SEONG^^!!!
Ukasuhs [1k\]: but each leaves 2 ko threats dont they?
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;B[pp]C[kiusasori [2d\]: q4 snete
kiusasori [2d\]: sente
Isobeutel [2d?\]: the fan is open...
kiusasori [2d\]: o5 
copyright [2d\]: o5 
gogonuts [4d\]: if w pulls this off with endgame and b didnt need b7, b will not be a happy man
Isobeutel [2d?\]: omg
Warfreak2 [5d\]: this way your second threat is to start a ko, other way both threats are to kill
gogonuts [4d\]: insanely cool answer
tsuchigumo [-\]: sente
leger [1d\]: o5 
Ukasuhs [1k\]: but tats irrelevent in this posistion where no ko will be bigger than the one started by the treat in the bottom right
Ukasuhs [1k\]: thats*
gogonuts [4d\]: keep up euro
microfiche [14k\]: lag?
Ukasuhs [1k\]: left*
Isobeutel [2d?\]: Euro, its going on...
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;W[no]
;B[pr]C[gogonuts [4d\]: might get quick now
jersta [16k\]: euro are you ok?
]
;W[go]
;B[ne]
;W[nf]C[Levino [6k?\]: he's fine i bet
gogonuts [4d\]: missed o15 for o14
gogonuts [4d\]: before q2
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;B[ce]
;W[bf]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i fell asleep
Onmyoji [2d\]: lol
Isobeutel [2d?\]: lol
jersta [16k\]: lol
barakeel [1d\]: @@
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;B[kf]C[Sakeus [-\]: lol
Warfreak2 [5d\]: it's not irrelevant
gogonuts [4d\]: O15 before q2
gogonuts [4d\]: but never mind
Warfreak2 [5d\]: you blatantly don't know there will be no ko bigger than x
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;W[lf]C[meuns [2k\]: b strong
meuns [2k\]: too strong
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;B[ki]C[Hanne [3k\]: oh so strong
gogonuts [4d\]: looks like atleast by 10
gogonuts [4d\]: for b
Vogel [1k\]: yes aroung 10
meuns [2k\]: only 10 ?
]
;W[li]
;B[kh]C[gogonuts [4d\]: atleast
Hanne [3k\]: 10 much
Vogel [1k\]: maybe little less
gogonuts [4d\]: se too optimistic for b
Am [5d\]: w has resign
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;W[gg]
;B[lg]C[gogonuts [4d\]: has not :-)
Am [5d\]: )))
meuns [2k\]: w never resign !
Hanne [3k\]: resign in real life is harder than clicking resign button
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B+R
meuns [2k\]: nooooooooo
Larrave [3k\]: white resigned
Larrave [3k\]: too bad
meuns [2k\]: joon rules
Am [5d\]: but it  have to be done...
Am [5d\]: )))
Isobeutel [2d?\]: gratz and thx to players
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: cu all tomorrow at 10 am
Juergonaut [4d\]: bad for dinersteyn's SOS :-)
tsuchigumo [-\]: Thx to HArry
gogonuts [4d\]: thanks
Mauja [7k\]: :(
Phear [-\]: where can we see the standings and results?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: see my info
Am [5d\]: thx --> EuroGoTV1
Phear [-\]: ah, thanks :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: why are you not here Am?
Lepenski [1k\]: the game is end
Am [5d\]: wait a sec!!
Am [5d\]: Euro, are U here??!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
Am [5d\]: good news...
masek [-\]: Lin Yuan :)
masek [-\]: Chinese version of Euro
qgo [4k\]: THANKS EuroGoTv
masek [-\]: Thanks Lin Yuan :)
Am [5d\]: how played Diner Ilya and Catalin, do U know??
jersta [16k\]: thx eurogo :))
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Ilia lost
microfiche [14k\]: very thanks
Am [5d\]: wow....
qgo [4k\]: and Van Zeijst?
microfiche [14k\]: both player rocked my morning.
chute [2k\]: thanks Euro
Gonzalate [2d\]: what about zhang yanqi ?
Am [5d\]: Ilia lost to some korean?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, too Oh Chimin
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Dinerchtein won i think, but not sure
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Catalin still playing
Am [5d\]: i c.
Am [5d\]: Catalin play with....?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Thomas Debarre
Gonzalate [2d\]: lol
Am [5d\]: i c....
A1R [8k\]: we wont see in-seong on board 1?
Am [5d\]: thanks!!
A1R [8k\]: again?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: maybe in a few rounds
A1R [8k\]: :(
IGoofy [1d\]: rematch
pooler: who is playing agianst dinerchtein?
pooler: *against
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: catalin taranu lost to thomas debarre
gornuf [19k\]: who won???
Gonzalate [2d\]: YES
Gonzalate [2d\]: :D
Am [5d\]: wow!!
A1R [8k\]: :)
LedZepplin [2d\]: w resigned?
Athanor [-\]: nan?
DrH0use [2d\]: no
jinkidie [15k\]: yup
bistrogo [3d\]: awesome
Am [5d\]: Thomas realy is very strong...
A1R [8k\]: AMAZING
jinkidie [15k\]: thomas?
gornuf [19k\]: who won?????
Gonzalate [2d\]: <*o*> thomaaas
Awesome [4k\]: when is the next round <?
Orc [4d\]: poor calalin...
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: tomorrow same time
Awesome [4k\]: thx
mi1 [2k\]: how playd shikshin his game ?
gornuf [19k\]: Who won>????? i missed the end??
bistrogo [3d\]: b won +R
bistrogo [3d\]: cocorico ;)
harlej9 [2k\]: does m13 end in gote for b?
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