(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[9000]OT[1x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Go Congress 2009 board 2 round 5]PW[Rob van Zeijst]PB[Alexandre Dinerchtein]WR[7d]BR[3p]DT[2009-07-31]EV[European Go Congress 2009 board 2 round 5]RO[5]PC[Groningen, The Netherlands]US[HW9x9]
;B[qd]
;W[dc]C[Sebastian [2k\]: b has nice territority
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;B[pq]
;W[dp]
;B[nc]C[Reiter101 [-\]: Open an sgf
Reiter101 [-\]: with names
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;W[po]C[playgo2: i will give it 2 min
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;B[qo]C[Javaness [2d\]: I feel the MagicOfGo will lose to breakfast
mcw85 [7k\]: Why do you call him MagicofGo, Mr. Ness?
oblivion2: what's wrong with white??
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
oblivion2: taking so long...
mcw85 [7k\]: What do you mean?
mcw85 [7k\]: He is thinking.
mcw85 [7k\]: This game is 2.5 hours long.
seppy [?\]: eurogo can u show us board 2?
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;W[qn]
;B[qp]C[oblivion2: 2.5 hours for the obvious move...
]
;W[pn]
;B[nq]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: this is board 2
Javaness [2d\]: pay attention seppy
seppy [?\]: well, board 1 plz
Javaness [2d\]: he is showing board 1
mcw85 [7k\]: This is board 1.
oblivion2: my god...
CookieMon [12k\]: haha
CookieMon [12k\]: there's a little confusion
seppy [?\]: thx
playgo2: he his reading?
HandA [4k?\]: Oh god finally a Dinerchtein game
mcw85 [7k\]: You sound too excited...
CookieMon [12k\]: haha
seishiro [6k\]: anybody would be excited
HandA [4k?\]: Rob from which country?
mcw85 [7k\]: Look at the name and you have one guess.
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: The Netherlands(but living in Japan)
jyem [-\]: Nethermands
HandA [4k?\]: oh
oblivion2: poor dinerchtein...
oblivion2: such s boring oponnent
mcw85 [7k\]: Do you want him to do frikkin cartwheels?
songha [1k\]: lol
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: both players have a history with each other
songha [1k\]: it would be a good confusesuji
holynec [?\]: maybe they will finish it with fisticuffs
songha [1k\]: get up and do cartwheels
CookieMon [12k\]: you mean they have a past relationship?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: really want to win
oblivion2: i want him to play a frikkin move
HandA [4k?\]: Has Alex lost any game yet?
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;W[qj]C[CookieMon [12k\]: haha
holynec [?\]: this is for bragging rights :\]
luytre: EuroGoTV2, could you center the cam a little more on the board please ?
boatlord [5d\]: w getting tea.. now energy to play
holynec [?\]: yeah, Alex lost round 2
holynec [?\]: to In-seong *forgive me if i mispelled*
TeeSushi [2d\]: rather looks like coffee
HandA [4k?\]: Where can I see the fixtures and results?
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: yes coffee lol
holynec [?\]: demos of the respective eurogotvs
boatlord [5d\]: oh
boatlord [5d\]: then game is lost
holynec [?\]: i think he was on eurogotv2
Mikki62 [2k\]: ???
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;B[ce]C[mcw85 [7k\]: http://egc2009.nl/
zzz [2k\]: 1 pont
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
TeeSushi [2d\]: can you swing the cam to board 1 from time to time?
TeeSushi [2d\]: thx
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it is on board 1 atm
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and back
watergun [-\]: diner looks bored..
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: he's not around atm
Javaness [2d\]: frank jansen is watching
gogonuts [4d\]: von Zeist will have a cup of tea first
CookieMon [12k\]: psicological war
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: just walked out
mcw85 [7k\]: Rob will wait until BY to play.
Ruutana [?\]: Rob is probably making slurping noices to distract. >_>
CookieMon [12k\]: he is taking his time... drinking coffee..
gogonuts [4d\]: if alexandre is so itchy he should definitely make him wait
magners [3k\]: and he used his spoon to make clicking sounds
CookieMon [12k\]: and the other guy is boring...
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;W[cg]C[playgo2: b come back!!!
holynec [?\]: how tall is black
CookieMon [12k\]: 7 feet
magners [3k\]: feet, what is that?
mcw85 [7k\]: Europeans don't sit in seiza, do they?
watergun [-\]: he looks short..
BlitzOff [6k\]: wow, lot of traffic
BlitzOff [6k\]: lol
CookieMon [12k\]: haha, arount 2,10 cm.
Javaness [2d\]: sasha is starting to go bald
gogonuts [4d\]: they should have put the first boards somewhere in the back
kane955 [4k\]: bald vs the hairy
gogonuts [4d\]: fighting for sente now
Reiter101 [-\]: who is w on kgs?
gogonuts [4d\]: extension on the right side is important
BlitzOff [6k\]: so nasty, biting nails like that...
mcw85 [7k\]: I don't think he plays on KGS.
Q161 [13k?\]: who beat Dinerchtein in round 2?
mcw85 [7k\]: Alexandre Dinerchtein is breakfast.
mcw85 [7k\]: I believe Kim Joon Sang.
watergun [-\]: the way dinerchtein sits is funny..
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;B[ck]C[gogonuts [4d\]: wow
holynec [?\]: Hwang In-Seong in 3rd round beat breakfast
gogonuts [4d\]: ate breakfast
mcw85 [7k\]: Wrong, In-Seong.
mcw85 [7k\]: Sorry.
playgo2: b looks very nervos
chimosan [14k\]: what rank are these guuys?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 3p and 7d
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it's right behind the names above the chat
songha [1k\]: where is this being held?
HandA [4k?\]: Hwang In something beat Alex in round 3
gogonuts [4d\]: c9 is special
mcw85 [7k\]: Groningen
CookieMon [12k\]: video stoped :S
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Check the info
CookieMon [12k\]: my problem?
Cassis0 [5d\]: fun begins early
songha [1k\]: i have too many windows open already
songha [1k\]: that's why i'm asking here =/
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: TV feed stopped?
magners [3k\]: The Netherlands
mcw85 [7k\]: No. It's fine.
songha [1k\]: ah
Ripples [7k\]: tv veed still on.
CookieMon [12k\]: mmm
Ripples [7k\]: feed*
kane955 [4k\]: capris are in fashion?
CookieMon [12k\]: ok, i'll recharge
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;W[de]
;B[cn]C[gogonuts [4d\]: the players stoped moving, but people still walk through the background :-)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ^^
Q161 [13k?\]: what rank was In-Seong?
mcw85 [7k\]: 7d.
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 7d
playgo2: b play fast
Ruzinus [5k\]: it was an interesting game
LugPaj [2d\]: w will have short nails after this gme
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;W[co]
;B[dn]
;W[fq]C[CookieMon [12k\]: oh shit
CookieMon [12k\]: video is not working hah
Ripples [7k\]: i was gonna say, euro is psychic
Ripples [7k\]: video was 5 seconds
Ripples [7k\]: late lol
BlitzOff [6k\]: haha, think hes nervous?
insomniac [5k\]: Will the wallist update itself today?
mcw85 [7k\]: Wtahc language.
CookieMon [12k\]: and finally they're playing xD
gogonuts [4d\]: c9 will be a feast for the commenting pros
IGoofy [1d\]: has b his shoe on the chair ?
TeeSushi [2d\]: r12 or j16 maybe?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the wall list will be updated today. I expect sometime during this round
gogonuts [4d\]: r12
CookieMon [12k\]: ok
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes, blank is practicing gargoyle posture.
CookieMon [12k\]: video works now
CookieMon [12k\]: sorry 
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;B[qh]C[Q161 [13k?\]: is the tournament double elimination?
mcw85 [7k\]: No.
CookieMon [12k\]: one question, how many does a pro earn?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no rr
gogonuts [4d\]: https://77.167.221.121/Go/Results.aspx is accessible from the outside
LugPaj [2d\]: CookieMon : depends
CookieMon [12k\]: a 3p
WolfRayeT [6k\]: its up to him^^
Javaness [2d\]: P10
BlitzOff [6k\]: mcw85, stick to one window, lol
LugPaj [2d\]: a pro title itself doesnt give you any money
qgo [4k\]: good morning EuroGo
playgo2: p11
BlitzOff [6k\]: you too java
whatisgo [1d\]: not much , better study to be a doctor
gogonuts [4d\]: r12 was almost certain
Ripples [7k\]: !@!@!
WolfRayeT [6k\]: ....teaching money, tournaments and eventually writing books^^
dejohn [?\]: omg
Ripples [7k\]: he picked his nose then licked his fingers
Ripples [7k\]: :(
Nemerid [-\]: intersting
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: please do not overuse that link, it is not on a server that can handle excessive requests
gogonuts [4d\]: so c9 seems to have worked
Petery: Cómo podría ver todos los videos? de tvGo porq solo me deja ver este
Aspie [3k\]: R 14 ? 
chimosan [14k\]: lol he picked his nose
IGoofy [1d\]: w eats boogys ?
Ripples [7k\]: ...
Nemerid [-\]: if w add a move at C16, black invade at R8
dejohn [?\]: somebody tell him that  peoble are wathing please
mcw85 [7k\]: P10 seems best move?
TeeSushi [2d\]: i want to see some action :(
CookieMon [12k\]: me too
mcw85 [7k\]: Thinking is action.
BlitzOff [6k\]: people in the background act like they understand the game at a glance, lol
gogonuts [4d\]: theres always action. and is it starts slow it will be even more fierce
whatisgo [1d\]: i want to see b wins
hanskrens [7k\]: I feel J or K3 is best for white
gogonuts [4d\]: c14, c16, p10 are the options imo
boatlord [5d\]: I like b fuseki
mcw85 [7k\]: Big moves, but protecting the r6 group is important.
gogonuts [4d\]: possibly q4 for r3 before p10
gogonuts [4d\]: Rob seems perturbed
mcw85 [7k\]: q4 or r3?
gogonuts [4d\]: w q4, b r3
playgo2: his nose again
gogonuts [4d\]: if b answers differently w doesnt need p10
mcw85 [7k\]: Hmm, interesting.
TeeSushi [2d\]: harry is walking around taking some photo
TeeSushi [2d\]: s
tsuchigumo [-\]: Looks pretty even to me
gogonuts [4d\]: wow
CookieMon [12k\]: wow
CookieMon [12k\]: such a confidence 
gogonuts [4d\]: completely different tack
TeeSushi [2d\]: someone play k16 please
TeeSushi [2d\]: that was whites move
WatariWill [6k\]: van zeijst just has
LugPaj [2d\]: funny way to sit
playgo2: k16 pliz
IGoofy [1d\]: yum yum
playgo2: someone???
Aspie [3k\]: I bet K 16 : )
lemurov [-\]: e4 
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: white K 4
tupinoz [4k\]: w r14
mcw85 [7k\]: k16 e4 e3 
cliio: wake up eurogo
lemurov [-\]: k16 e4 e3 c3 
TeeSushi [2d\]: i opened a copy
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: next move?
TeeSushi [2d\]: k16 
noned [2d\]: no
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;W[jd]C[TeeSushi [2d\]: k16 e4 e3 c3 
noned [2d\]: they played down
playgo2: k16 e4 
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;B[ep]
;W[eq]
;B[cq]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Up to date.
cliio: thx
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: thx
gogonuts [4d\]: fuseki a success for b imo
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: was taking pictures
whatisgo [1d\]: why E4?
mcw85 [7k\]: Distracted by a lady?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ^^
bistrogo [3d\]: thx Tee ;)
Cassis0 [5d\]: how can you tell its a success for b? 
gogonuts [4d\]: e4 is good preparation for c3
gogonuts [4d\]: b still has r8 and c16
IGoofy [1d\]: more attracted than distracted
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: lol
TeeSushi [2d\]: i opened a copy ... as long as i can see it i can play on when your are going around making photos ^^
gogonuts [4d\]: r12 signaled success after settling the left side (imo that is)
Cassis0 [5d\]: cannot be bad for white... every stone is working 
tsuchigumo [-\]: w has r14
Javaness [2d\]: I see Frank Jansen is on sale
BlitzOff [6k\]: sale %
BlitzOff [6k\]: crazy how you know all these people, are they all good players?
holynec [?\]: where
BlitzOff [6k\]: people walking in the background and such
playgo2: how much time for each one?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 5 minutes
playgo2: for a move?
mcw85 [7k\]: 5 minutes?
CookieMon [12k\]: hey
TeeSushi [2d\]: 150 mins basic time
]
;W[do]C[CookieMon [12k\]: how many time left has W?
]
;B[bo]
;W[bp]
;B[bn]
;W[bq]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
noned [2d\]: many time
]
;B[cd]
;W[dd]
;B[cc]C[playgo2: now there is action
Javaness [2d\]: fast play
CookieMon [12k\]: thx
]
;W[cb]
;B[bb]
;W[db]C[playgo2: ty
]
;B[cf]
;W[df]
;B[bg]C[magners [3k\]: b 2:19 - w 1:57
]
;W[bh]
;B[ch]
;W[dg]
;B[bi]C[TeeSushi [2d\]: huge wall
]
;W[dh]C[noned [2d\]: wall of doom
Q161 [13k?\]: looks really good for w
Javaness [2d\]: the door is open
TeeSushi [2d\]: o17 in a good position now i think ^^
Bobiku [2d\]: this wall is too good for w
Ruzinus [5k\]: javaness is writing a horror novel
seishiro [6k\]: big wall right there
LugPaj [2d\]: wall != territory
cuby [2k\]: can't accomplish too much
songha [1k\]: well diner gets the territory he loves so much
TeeSushi [2d\]: of course lug ... like wall has 4 letters and territory 9 
Sebastian [2k\]: may turn to territority doesnt have to
Mef [-\]: The wall should be good, no? W's made 2-3 extra moves there
TeeSushi [2d\]: obviously not the same
cuby [2k\]: mef stop trolling
TeeSushi [2d\]: c11 or a12 thats the question
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
tsuchigumo [-\]: If b playsc11 w can play for a kop in the top corner
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;B[ah]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: ko*
boatlord [5d\]: b can avoid ko with b17
Ruzinus [5k\]: where now for white?
boatlord [5d\]: but if c11 then b19 is sente
tsuchigumo [-\]: sure but then suffers yose loss
Bobiku [2d\]: k16 seems to close to the wall
gogonuts [4d\]: hm, b still a head i think, but c16 didnt work so well
TeeSushi [2d\]: i think b knew this result would happen when he played c16
]
;W[ci]C[gogonuts [4d\]: he couldnt play d16 instead because the ladder was bad
mcw85 [7k\]: Why atari?
gogonuts [4d\]: so maybe he could have invaded at r8 instead, looking for a chance to play a ladder breaker
LugPaj [2d\]: rare for b to play b i guess
tsuchigumo [-\]: r8 is gote
cuby [2k\]: dinerchtein's shirt contains glyphs meant to be interpreted by superior intelligences far in the future
]
;B[lc]C[gogonuts [4d\]: lol
cuby [2k\]: the man does not waste his tv time
]
;W[bh]C[gogonuts [4d\]: and his sitting position reminds of a song by willie nelson
TeeSushi [2d\]: b10 
gogonuts [4d\]: "like a bird on a wire"
Javaness [2d\]: MagicOfGo doesn't care
cuby [2k\]: yeah he sits like he has to go to the bathroom
BlitzOff [6k\]: REFEREE
cuby [2k\]: ref waddles in
BlitzOff [6k\]: sorry, had to...
chimosan [14k\]: lol
cuby [2k\]: searching for his neck
mcw85 [7k\]: What do the referees referee?
gogonuts [4d\]: m17 was very big, but this ko is pretty severe
cuby [2k\]: black cannot B10?
cuby [2k\]: too painful>
]
;B[cj]C[TeeSushi [2d\]: he wants the ko Oo
gogonuts [4d\]: war
Ruutana [?\]: Brave.
cuby [2k\]: fiiiight
watergun [-\]: just feel that the way dinerchtein sits is very irrespectful to the opponent :(
Saimon [1d\]: how does he sit?
songha [1k\]: well diner likes to play trick moves
BlitzOff [6k\]: like L from death note
cuby [2k\]: these guys are just totally focused
cuby [2k\]: songha is that trure?
cuby [2k\]: err "true"
Cassis0 [5d\]: just b14
watergun [-\]: with one leg on the chair just now..
Cassis0 [5d\]: and punish it 
Q161 [13k?\]: what does SOSOS stand for?
Ruzinus [5k\]: the way he sits is disrespectful?
Saimon [1d\]: cool
Mef [-\]: Sum of Sum of opponent's scores
WolfRayeT [6k\]: ^^
Ruzinus [5k\]: what?
watergun [-\]: table manners..
WolfRayeT [6k\]: anything but seisa is disrespectful^^
Ruutana [?\]: I think white will tenuki.
gogonuts [4d\]: c10 is fighting spirit, but w wont start the ko right away
Ruutana [?\]: Ha
songha [1k\]: yes it's true cuby
Cassis0 [5d\]: why? he is more solid, has more threats and the go is very big if he takes
Q161 [13k?\]: thanks Mef
]
;W[kc]C[Ruutana [?\]: l17 
Cassis0 [5d\]: white should go b14 directly
Cassis0 [5d\]: he has local threats with b15
Ruzinus [5k\]: the very idea that you should be offended by how someone sits playing go just seems bizarre
gogonuts [4d\]: and if b finishes the ko with c12 and d11 its big but wont threaten w
mcw85 [7k\]: Ruz: You offend me by not using correct punctuation.
LugPaj [2d\]: maybe b would give up corner and take the ko and sente, cassis
songha [1k\]: you guys are making me curious how he really is sitting
cuby [2k\]: he just has one leg up is all
mcw85 [7k\]: Like a gargoyle, songha.
Ruzinus [5k\]: mc, alas!
Cassis0 [5d\]: white just lacks of confidence here
mr5willows [-\]: i dont think seiza is common in korea or russia though
songha [1k\]: a gargoyle..hmmm
cuby [2k\]: can anyone comment on L17?
]
;B[ld]C[cuby [2k\]: seems bizarre
]
;W[jf]C[gogonuts [4d\]: no alternative to m16 imo
Q161 [13k?\]: so technically with this tournament system you can go undefeated and still lose?
mcw85 [7k\]: How so?
Javaness [2d\]: why on earth did seiza become popular
cuby [2k\]: right?
Mef [-\]: M16 is the natural response to a kick, but now perhaps B feels overconcentrated?
mcw85 [7k\]: Japanese have no knees.
cuby [2k\]: "let's all punish ourselves"
]
;B[ql]C[Javaness [2d\]: ouch
Vondel [2k\]: W lacks confidence??? for what you mean ?
Sebastian [2k\]: stereotypes
cuby [2k\]: mef, you think black feels more overconcentrated than white?
LugPaj [2d\]: i like seiza....once you are used to it, it is comfortable
mr5willows [-\]: seiza keeps ur spine straight
Ruzinus [5k\]: what is seiza?
TeeSushi [2d\]: q161 you play players of about your level so being undefeated in 5 rounds tournaments happens from time to time
Ruzinus [5k\]: a way of sitting?
mcw85 [7k\]: W is over concentrated in southwest
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sitting on your legs
cuby [2k\]: black has 5 stones enclosing a nice corner, white has a BILLION stones outlining something maybe on the side
]
;W[rl]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: because he trusts black on this ko 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: with feet in back
mcw85 [7k\]: Yeah, sitting on folded legs.
Cassis0 [5d\]: but its very bad for b
Q161 [13k?\]: TeeSushi, doesnt that make it unfair
gogonuts [4d\]: interesting - w avoided q8 for s8
cuby [2k\]: this chick i swear is trying to become junior AV idol
mcw85 [7k\]: She is cute.
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: she is strong
cuby [2k\]: gogo what is difference between the two moves?
mr5willows [-\]: who is 'she'
LugPaj [2d\]: so many guys without shoes there
Vondel [2k\]: I see Casis, whats your opinion on the ko ?
gogonuts [4d\]: now b cant play s8 :-)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Yanqi Zhang 6d
gogonuts [4d\]: b s8 would have made miai of connecting up or down
Cassis0 [5d\]: w should start it as soon as possible... 
mcw85 [7k\]: Invite her to watch the game, EGTV2?
gogonuts [4d\]: w needs some good threats
cuby [2k\]: she is like the chick from the Ring ... all sinister and full of power
Vortex [3d\]: but b won't waste a move to fix it so maybe w can build threats?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: she doesnt like to be on camera
gogonuts [4d\]: so maybe a probe against the top right before starting the ko
songha [1k\]: wow i really want to see this now,,,gargoyles and hot girls
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: once she even resigned because i put the camera on her boatrd
mcw85 [7k\]: Wow, that's bad.
mr5willows [-\]: that was evil...
gogonuts [4d\]: hot girls riding gargoyles - i swear
cuby [2k\]: wow so eccentric
]
;B[kq]C[mcw85 [7k\]: EGTV2 has no heart.
whatisgo [1d\]: in your dreams
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: lol
Q161 [13k?\]: lol
Vondel [2k\]: W starts the ko bu playing b10?
mcw85 [7k\]: Or b14.
Vondel [2k\]: or b14 ?
whatisgo [1d\]: too early
gogonuts [4d\]: one of the 2 :-)
gogonuts [4d\]: but not now
MssrBlanc [3k\]: From time to time, Dinerchtein kinda looks like he wants to attack Van Zeijst.  With his fists, not with go stones.  
gogonuts [4d\]: that might work
mcw85 [7k\]: We were just talking about getting Goboxing started at the EGC.
mcw85 [7k\]: This could be the catalyst!
cuby [2k\]: dave matthews vs david bowie
BlitzOff [6k\]: he looks worn out
gogonuts [4d\]: possibly w r14
Ruzinus [5k\]: "Throwing the go board across the room and denting the wall prior to uppercutting your opponent."
gogonuts [4d\]: a fight there would make good threats
mcw85 [7k\]: Nuclear tesuji.
MssrBlanc [3k\]: Based on pictures, Van Zeijst has at least 6" height on Dinerchtein
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: nice for the TV feed
supercow [-\]: doesn't anyone? =)
mcw85 [7k\]: EGTV2, can you propose that idea to the big wigs at the EGC?
LugPaj [2d\]: i like w q12
Javaness [2d\]: black is taking territory like nobody's business
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: they dont listen to me
gogonuts [4d\]: time for a tea
cuby [2k\]: his pants ... so red ...
mcw85 [7k\]: You have the camera, you have the power.
MssrBlanc [3k\]: This guy looks like he is ready to sit down and take over
]
;W[qc]C[cuby [2k\]: haha
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: but i dont have the money
BlitzOff [6k\]: haha, thats what i thought
cuby [2k\]: in comes Dr. House
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: you mean Ilia Shikshin 7d?
LugPaj [2d\]: this guy looks like he is doing some billard 
Ruutana [?\]: Hahah
cuby [2k\]: House ponders lupus tesuji
mcw85 [7k\]: Breakfast is giving that stone the evil eye.
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
DarkJC [?\]: I think the sarcoidosis tesuji would be a better fit
Q161 [13k?\]: yeah but we need some sort of account to watch it
cuby [2k\]: the video feed is hilarious fantastic
]
;B[rd]C[cuby [2k\]: can't be sarcoidosis with S16
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you can simply register an account for free
MssrBlanc [3k\]: woah, the video lags the kgs broadcast
Q161 [13k?\]: i tried but i cant get a confirmation email
gogonuts [4d\]: now the ko will get bloody
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: check your junk e-mail
]
;W[bf]C[mcw85 [7k\]: He was about the start the ko.
]
;B[ch]C[Q161 [13k?\]: oh cool :P
Q161 [13k?\]: thx
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: found it?
cuby [2k\]: eurogo what is weather like in groningen?
Cassis0 [5d\]: b15
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: clouded, but not raining
gogonuts [4d\]: q16
cuby [2k\]: cool
feafft: cloudy*
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;W[pd]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: *cloudy yes
Q161 [13k?\]: yes i found it
cuby [2k\]: see all the people outside without jackets
mcw85 [7k\]: He slammed that stone down like he was Hikaru.
BlitzOff [6k\]: haha
TeeSushi [2d\]: take
cuby [2k\]: is there any possible chance of P17?
mcw85 [7k\]: So cute...
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: The board lit up for a second there in a bright flash
mcw85 [7k\]: Haha.
cuby [2k\]: lol
Nemerid [-\]: many threats
Open2: do they need to write the kifu?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no
tsuchigumo [-\]: s8 was a good move imo
strong10k [-\]: isnt it standard
songha [1k\]: wow nice quality video
Sebastian [2k\]: funny to watch
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, noone needfus to write down ki
gogonuts [4d\]: yup, s8 was a little frustrating for b
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: *needs
tsuchigumo [-\]: Most players automatically play q8
cuby [2k\]: why is s8 better then Q8?
strong10k [-\]: what is the difference
mcw85 [7k\]: Don't you hate when that happens, EGTV1? Stupid touchpad...
cuby [2k\]: can anyone talk about difference S8 vs Q8?
tsuchigumo [-\]: Stronger defensively, b was very strong on both sides
cuby [2k\]: just connection with r12?
mcw85 [7k\]: One attaches under one over, right?
mcw85 [7k\]: Connects*
Mef [-\]: cuby - B s8 gives miai
cuby [2k\]: oh white miai
cuby [2k\]: how come we so rarely see it
Mef [-\]: if w q8 and bS8, then B will connect out for sure
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;B[pe]C[gogonuts [4d\]: q8 allows b s8 which connects to either side, s8 allows a b ponnuki 
gogonuts [4d\]: wow
Sebastian [2k\]: ^^ how can they concentrate with all these people running around
Ruzinus [5k\]: super powers
mcw85 [7k\]: I see, thanks.
BlitzOff [6k\]: they should shut that door
Open2: how are the players able to concentrate - it looks like a train station outside with all the people passing 
gogonuts [4d\]: b cannot afford to lose that ko
gogonuts [4d\]: i thought he would finish iot right away
Ruzinus [5k\]: why is white hesitating?
tsuchigumo [-\]: Like I said yesterday, players should get free blinkers and ear plugs
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: I'm taking control here while he's gone
Larrave [3k\]: hes away
Sebastian [2k\]: w is on toilet
gogonuts [4d\]: w isnt at the table
mcw85 [7k\]: He left.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Yeah, I'll update this one
Ruzinus [5k\]: ah.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: easy since Rob isn't here :P
songha [1k\]: where is hot girl
songha [1k\]: i only see gargoyle
Open2: what are blinkers?
songha [1k\]: wow diner doesn't look so good
Ruzinus [5k\]: blinders*
strong10k [-\]: whats for dinner
Sebastian [2k\]: back he is
Sebastian [2k\]: ko starts
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;W[bh]C[gogonuts [4d\]: now what?
cuby [2k\]: this ko gorgeously huge
Larrave [3k\]: black not looking happy
Open2: he has taken the ko without thinking one second when he came back
Q161 [13k?\]: what threats for b?
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;B[eo]C[Ruzinus [5k\]: we always see a great game when breakfast is angry
]
;W[dq]C[cuby [2k\]: maybe black regrets C10?
]
;B[ch]C[gogonuts [4d\]: lol
]
;W[oe]C[holynec [?\]: 2 hands on chin = bad sign
cuby [2k\]: wow so R17 was just for ko??
mcw85 [7k\]: Black must take ko.
strong10k [-\]: if black takes ko game almost over
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: tell me if I miss a move, since I'm watching the live feed as well, the board is just out of sight due to Alex sitting in the way :P
Open2: was e4 even a threat?
cuby [2k\]: we'll keep you on point euro
Q161 [13k?\]: lol
Larrave [3k\]: i hope white looses
strong10k [-\]: unlikely
mcw85 [7k\]: Geez, why?
qgo [4k\]: why Larrave?
songha [1k\]: lol why
gogonuts [4d\]: i dont think q15 helped b
Larrave [3k\]: thats why^^
engels [?\]: Open2: d3 would have taken the whole corner
gogonuts [4d\]: the w threats will only get worse
cuby [2k\]: yeah w threats like neverending
tsuchigumo [-\]: I'm for the old timer
Larrave [3k\]: cant he ignore?
qgo [4k\]: pick-nick ko for white
mr5willows [-\]: yeah, i was wondering, how old is rob now? he must be 50 or so, no?
engels [?\]: He can, but it's expensive. White's corner group will be stronger than the O17 group, so black will have to fight for life.
gogonuts [4d\]: if b ignores now w is better off than if b had ignored right away
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;B[pc]C[Larrave [3k\]: whats whites kgs acc?
]
;W[bh]C[engels [?\]: He was a teenager in the late 1970s... So high 40s now, I guess
mcw85 [7k\]: There is none.
cuby [2k\]: if that chick were any skinnier i could use her to pick locks
BlitzOff [6k\]: now now
songha [1k\]: the girl in purple, was she the hot girl you guys were talking about?
cuby [2k\]: nah 
cuby [2k\]: no one was talking about a hot girl
TeeSushi [2d\]: she was looking good though
Ruzinus [5k\]: what is it with these chats and people always talking about girls instead of go
TeeSushi [2d\]: (the girl in purple)
cuby [2k\]: cuz we're, you know, human
tsuchigumo [-\]: something about breakfast's eyes disturb me greatly
Sebastian [2k\]: sale ^^
mcw85 [7k\]: Gig i ty.
gogonuts [4d\]: p16 is another huge threat for w
MssrBlanc [3k\]: Sale?
Sebastian [2k\]: yeah sale ^^
Javaness [2d\]: Is everyone being good?
TeeSushi [2d\]: nope
Q161 [13k?\]: yessum
BlitzOff [6k\]: some of us...
holynec [?\]: i want to sleep
Ruzinus [5k\]: abort abort
Porkypine [8k\]: Yush!
watergun [-\]: how disrespectful he is.. :(
holynec [?\]: but i want to watch this game >_>
Q161 [13k?\]: is it me or b low on threats?
feafft: that guy was wearing the same shirt yesterday...brian peppers
mcw85 [7k\]: What threats does B have?
Ruzinus [5k\]: watergun
Ruzinus [5k\]: sigh
Q161 [13k?\]: i dunno
Q161 [13k?\]: he could hit him with board
gogonuts [4d\]: if b a13 he'd better not lose the ko
Open2: s9 is a threat?
watergun [-\]: sigh .. 
mcw85 [7k\]: Are you still on about how Dinerchtein is sitting?
gogonuts [4d\]: the yawning guy watching must be annoying
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;B[pl]C[cuby [2k\]: if anyone doesn't know, black defeated O Rissei
feafft: take
songha [1k\]: wow diner just glared at the watcher
Larrave [3k\]: wow
TeeSushi [2d\]: take
Javaness [2d\]: that's roln
gogonuts [4d\]: that watcher is pain even from here
cuby [2k\]: don't take!
tsuchigumo [-\]: 35 point + swing in the ko
Sebastian [2k\]: watcher is funny
Sebastian [2k\]: has no hands
mcw85 [7k\]: Rob told him to get away.
Q161 [13k?\]: wow so many people come bother them
BlitzOff [6k\]: this one doesnt have arms, lol
Sebastian [2k\]: i want that shirt!
songha [1k\]: lool
gogonuts [4d\]: poor guy
Q161 [13k?\]: 3 more walked in and are standing over board
songha [1k\]: replaced by gymnut blueman and chubbyman
gogonuts [4d\]: must play with his mouth
tsuchigumo [-\]: Not funny at all
mcw85 [7k\]: Are those mega man bad guys?
LugPaj [2d\]: how about broadcasting the game local in another room and closing the door?
yuko [20k?\]: his hands are behind his back
BlitzOff [6k\]: diner must not like watchers
Porkypine [8k\]: I was there wednesday and the rooms they're playing in are hot enough as it is, the more people get in there the hotter it gets
Porkypine [8k\]: It's really quite annoying
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Harry's back
Larrave [3k\]: so
Q161 [13k?\]: why cant they close the door >.<
Larrave [3k\]: why are most of them wearing long sleeves
tsuchigumo [-\]: w s7
TeeSushi [2d\]: rob gets very easily distracted it seems
holynec [?\]: why is white wearing so much then
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Highwayman [1d\]: take it !!!
cuby [2k\]: really ought to close the room off for top boards
Porkypine [8k\]: Agreed
Q161 [13k?\]: i agree
feafft: nay
tsuchigumo [-\]: Can't sure door because of net cable apparently
yuko [20k?\]: agree
tsuchigumo [-\]: shut*
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: then the cable would knack and you couldnt see it
gogonuts [4d\]: w would very much like to answer once at s7, but he may be a threat short then
tsuchigumo [-\]: Good job organisers!
feafft: get wifi?
TeeSushi [2d\]: wifi
strong10k [-\]: take ko no good?
cuby [2k\]: meh in top tourneys the top boards are off limits
Sebastian [2k\]: wifi no good
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: we need enough upload bandwidth
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: wifi here is no good
cuby [2k\]: if it makes this amazing picture available i guess it's worth it ;)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and the cable is too long
gogonuts [4d\]: actually, shouldnt w have started the ko at b10?
holynec [?\]: cant you go thru the crack in the wall on the left
Larrave [3k\]: white didnt ignore
tsuchigumo [-\]: I think w has enough, and the q8.s7 exchange seems big plus for w
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;W[rm]
;B[ch]C[holynec [?\]: i couldve sworn i saw an opening behind the big poster
Porkypine [8k\]: surely they can close the door somewhat
cuby [2k\]: good man!
cuby [2k\]: patience
]
;W[od]
;B[oc]C[Porkypine [8k\]: enough to keep people out
leger [1d\]: this ko is huge
]
;W[bh]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Probably figures he has enough threats.
Ruzinus [5k\]: or put at big scary man at the door
gogonuts [4d\]: now b a13?
Ruzinus [5k\]: to scare people off
cuby [2k\]: memorable ko fight
Javaness [2d\]: omg a mongol horde just walked in
mcw85 [7k\]: Doesn't Ilya have a game today?
Porkypine [8k\]: There's the yawning guy again
tsuchigumo [-\]: Really they should make the room private and organise cctv
Porkypine [8k\]: go awayyyy
Porkypine [8k\]: Rob has to thiiiink
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: probarbly allready won
Javaness [2d\]: what's wrong with having spectators
cuby [2k\]: how about a sign "please do not disturb"
TeeSushi [2d\]: inst  100Mbit/s enough for the video broadcast?
cuby [2k\]: it's necessarily distracting
Javaness [2d\]: you should be looking at the board, not around you
cuby [2k\]: top players should wear horse blinders
holynec [?\]: sometimes you cant help your peripherals
Ruzinus [5k\]: some people have trouble concentrating with extra noise around them.
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;B[ag]C[Sebastian [2k\]: funny green guy again
Larrave [3k\]: ah
gogonuts [4d\]: the problem is all the people in backgroud have to pass this room to get from there on game to the hall or the toilet
Larrave [3k\]: now he did
cuby [2k\]: i want that guy's jacket
Javaness [2d\]: those people are not 7d Ruzinus
zyklop [1d\]: maybe you could discuss this eleswhere, that would be nice
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: teesushi, we don't have 100 Mb/s internet here
Ruzinus [5k\]: so it depends on the spectators somewhat
cuby [2k\]: look at the buttons and the design on the sleeve ... so hot
chro [8k\]: c12?
qgo [4k\]: did these players play eachother before ?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Ilia won
hassimov [11k\]: ajajaj
gogonuts [4d\]: those kibitzes sure make the players seem well dressed
mcw85 [7k\]: White played a14 
Ruzinus [5k\]: that seems a silly thing to say, why would go strength and ability to concentrate through noise be related?
holynec [?\]: mcw85 [7k\]: White played a14 
Javaness [2d\]: Rob van MagicOfGo is wearing a smart looking white jacket
maligo [4d\]: what is kibitz?
BlitzOff [6k\]: its kghin!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and red pants
BlitzOff [6k\]: jk jk
cuby [2k\]: lol
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yes they played before and Rob felt cheated
gogonuts [4d\]: a person watching a game
noned [2d\]: red pants :D
Ripples [7k\]: i dont know about you guys
mcw85 [7k\]: Did he not?
songha [1k\]: waah shy kid
Larrave [3k\]: kghin gonna do simultan now
Ripples [7k\]: but im digging the referee sash
cuby [2k\]: aaaand ref comes bulging again ... still can't find his neck
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: there's also a blue professional sash, but they don't all wear it :P
holynec [?\]: EuroGoTV1 - > White played at a14
MssrBlanc [3k\]: weren't white's threats in the upper right losing threats? 
TeeSushi [2d\]: rob and alex played 3 times before according to european go database
tsuchigumo [-\]: No that kid is showing some respect
Ripples [7k\]: oh wait, those are professional sashes?
Javaness [2d\]: those sashes are such a laugh
TeeSushi [2d\]: rob one once
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: tell eurogotv1, I'm from board 1
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: eurogotv2 I mean
chro [8k\]: c12 is the same as a14, but don't loose a stone in worst case
Ripples [7k\]: thought they were home made
cuby [2k\]: he'll figure it out
Ripples [7k\]: ...
Javaness [2d\]: the little kid is afraid of them
mcw85 [7k\]: They are messing with us on purpose.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: please note the numbers behind our names :P
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: time/clock trick as i recall
tsuchigumo [-\]: breakfast giving Rob the serial killer look
mcw85 [7k\]: You all look the same to me!
engels [?\]: chro: No, c12 lets black connect. With a14 it's still ko.
holynec [?\]: EuroGoTv2
holynec [?\]: you missed whitre a14
Q161 [13k?\]: what do you get for 1st place in the congress?
holynec [?\]: is it even there?1 i cant see it that well
cuby [2k\]: did w actually A14?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no
BlitzOff [6k\]: i dont think so
mcw85 [7k\]: No, I don't think so.
A007BondJ [1k\]: b10 ....
cuby [2k\]: yeah y'all are trippin
mcw85 [7k\]: Hard to tell.
qgo [4k\]: =breakfast Dinerchstein?
engels [?\]: yes
Larrave [3k\]: yes
qgo [4k\]: thx
Larrave [3k\]: considerng black alive
holynec [?\]: mcw85 said it so i repeated
holynec [?\]: :k
Larrave [3k\]: whos better off?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: we
cuby [2k\]: man this is like go players' Oscar night
Larrave [3k\]: XD
mcw85 [7k\]: I saw what I expected to see.
Porkypine [8k\]: see that man is polite
Javaness [2d\]: Rob seems to be wearing a red tie as well
holynec [?\]: why did rob feel cheated inthe past?
Porkypine [8k\]: He's standing in the doorway
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: that's not a tie, that's a thing holding his badge
cuby [2k\]: he's wearing fishing pants, not very polite
Javaness [2d\]: oh ^^
Porkypine [8k\]: those are regular cargo pants if you ask me
Porkypine [8k\]: :<
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: same as person in back
mcw85 [7k\]: He thought he was competing in a fishing tourney.
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i am not sure, Rob told me more the a year ago, but i forgot the details
gogonuts [4d\]: instead of a14 b10 is bigger if w wins the ko
Sebastian [2k\]: finally someone blocks the door
gogonuts [4d\]: lol
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: maybe cheated is a to big word
Javaness [2d\]: some rip off on the goban?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: not playing by the Japanese etiquette Rob is used to, but playing to win probarbly
mcw85 [7k\]: Does he have a water bottle in his shirt pocket?
Larrave [3k\]: rob sticking the stone into his noseXD
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Porkypine [8k\]: oh he has arms
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: he did yes
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;W[qe]C[Javaness [2d\]: maybe that is the "it is my turn to take the ko?" incident many years ago
Larrave [3k\]: maybe he will say dare you to atari this one^^
Porkypine [8k\]: I thought he was a double amputee -_-
Ruzinus [5k\]: hrum
cuby [2k\]: euro would love to see clock zoom when you get chance, thanks
Ruzinus [5k\]: I dont understand whites move - is he abandoning the ko?
Larrave [3k\]: black looking like the night was a bit too long
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no, creating some extr
mcw85 [7k\]: Letting it be for no.
papamisha [2d\]: creating new ko threats
mcw85 [7k\]: Making more threats.
Javaness [2d\]: he is just leaving the ko for a while
engels [?\]: He's considering it a ko threat
Highwayman [1d\]: he wants to make some other ko threats
engels [?\]: Oh wait, not  a ko threat...
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;B[re]C[leger [1d\]: it's ridiculous, this is the 2nd game i'm watching from this tournament; why didn't things change ? so many passbies, it bothers the players
Sebastian [2k\]: is it possible to buy go congress shirt online?
engels [?\]: Apparently having black play a13 is so submissive that he considers he won something from the ko
Am [5d\]: динер черными играет!!!
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;W[bj]
;B[ch]C[Am [5d\]: только сейчас заметил...  :-)))
mcw85 [7k\]: Massive.
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: hi Am!!
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;W[pf]C[mcw85 [7k\]: I don't know what you said, but I am sure glad you said it.
TeeSushi [2d\]: b15 was no good threat for w?
]
;B[di]
;W[rf]C[whatisgo [1d\]: нгарри клонировал партию в русской комнате
engels [?\]: Smaller than q14 I guess
Porkypine [8k\]: ohh he took it
]
;B[rc]C[Porkypine [8k\]: crazy crazy man
Ruzinus [5k\]: that was anticlimactic
]
;W[qg]C[engels [?\]: And also if black does answer, it costs yose
Violence [-\]: q10?
Novalys [2k\]: Cool sequence for w
Highwayman [1d\]: huge profit for white
Bobiku [2d\]: m14 looks fantastic for w
Novalys [2k\]: Top is low, invasion alive and R 12 damage
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;B[pj]C[Novalys [2k\]: but the game looks impossible to win, b has so many secure points
LugPaj [2d\]: i prefer w
engels [?\]: Ruzinus: Fights between top level players often end anticlimactic for players like you and me... One player wins, but the other gets almost as much in compensation. They're good at not fighting a fight they cannot win.
mcw85 [7k\]: B has points, but white has a lot of potential.
Novalys [2k\]: I don't prefere w; i usually like influence, but when it'smore solid :)
Ruzinus [5k\]: well yeah, white did get something
Ruzinus [5k\]: but before it looked like he could get more if black took the ko
Novalys [2k\]: w's potential is not really big with D11 of black
cuby [2k\]: ides
leger [1d\]: white leads, i think, but it's a close game
hanskrens [7k\]: Black leads by 8,5 points at the moment
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;W[qk]C[Novalys [2k\]: SE ?
Porkypine [8k\]: don't trust SE ;_; It's full of lies
Novalys [2k\]: F12
hanskrens [7k\]: is is an estimate
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: SE doesnt consider the 8 points komi
playgo2: b have much more solid groups but w get more area coverd. hard to say who is wining
yanopel [3d\]:  points concernés / nombre de coups concernés x 2 = ?
]
;B[qi]
;W[pk]C[engels [?\]: SE underestimates the weakness of the black stones on the right, I think.
playgo2: this is chinise rules right???
mcw85 [7k\]: ING
Larrave [3k\]: does rob beat the clock?
Kratzdrink [2k\]: ing rules
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;B[oh]C[engels [?\]: Ing rules to be exactly
]
;W[og]C[playgo2: ok ty
engels [?\]: Why p13?
Javaness [2d\]: Simplified Ing Rules, not Ing Rules
engels [?\]: True
Q161 [13k?\]: woah good guessing EGCtv
engels [?\]: And being a referee I'm glad for that
mcw85 [7k\]: What simplifications are made?
engels [?\]: No Ing ko rule, but superko
strong10k [-\]: game is close
Onmyoji [2d\]: what is superko
engels [?\]: You're not allowed to play a move that repeats the position.
Onmyoji [2d\]: ok
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Engels knows, since he's a referee at the Egc2009 ;)
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;B[mh]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: how is it different than normal ko
mcw85 [7k\]: Do they give you a whistle?
derp [1k\]: game seems close to me, too
Javaness [2d\]: look it up
engels [?\]: Normal ko only disallows the position 2 moves back.
Open2: what is the difference between japanese and ing rules?
engels [?\]: In normal ko you can repeat the situation in for example a triple ko.
Porkypine [8k\]: 8 point komi in ING rules
mcw85 [7k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?Superko
Porkypine [8k\]: and you count differently
engels [?\]: And Chinese counting
engels [?\]: Not really Chinese, but the outcome is the same as Chinese
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: It's best to do some readon on senseis.xmp.net, there's a search function
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: *reading on
engels [?\]: That is, stones on the board are points, but captured stones are not.
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i think r9 should have been r11
engels [?\]: But Ing then also has a special counting method: Each player has exactly 180 stones, and after the game you fill up your own territory with your own stones.
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;W[oj]C[reilgh [3k?\]: nice girl on tv!
LugPaj [2d\]: nice service
Larrave [3k\]: hehe
Porkypine [8k\]: oww P10? I was expecting Q11 :(
Larrave [3k\]: how about some naked service?^^
Larrave [3k\]: XD
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Breakfast girlfriend
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: wife
Larrave [3k\]: really?
mcw85 [7k\]: Realy?
reilgh [3k?\]: lol
mcw85 [7k\]: She's cute.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: brought him tea
yithril [2d\]: link please
reilgh [3k?\]: ye
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
yithril [2d\]: ive got to see this
Larrave [3k\]: too late
mcw85 [7k\]: She's gone.
Larrave [3k\]: XD
engels [?\]: p10 threatens q12.
DarkJC [?\]: lol...
TeeSushi [2d\]: darn missed her xD
Onmyoji [2d\]: i dont see gurl
cuby [2k\]: would it be safe to say white hopes to profit on top by attacking?
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;B[ng]
;W[nf]C[engels [?\]: After q11, black q12, black has sente
yithril [2d\]: missed her
Open2: n14
Larrave [3k\]: n14 next ko?
engels [?\]: Little profit left at the top... More likely seeking it in the center
tsuchigumo [-\]: w looks ahead to me
leger [1d\]: black looks ahead to me
ben0 [5d\]: both look ahead to me
engels [?\]: They're definitely ahead of me :-)
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;B[lj]C[cuby [2k\]: lol
yithril [2d\]: not the asian lady right?
cuby [2k\]: M10 awesome
Larrave [3k\]: no
Open2: why are there so many rules sets and differences in time settings? One should create a worldwide go association and vote for standard rules and time settings
tsuchigumo [-\]: b left 20 *, b top 15, b bottom 15+, w top 30, w lower left 15, w right 10, komi 8
Porkypine [8k\]: nooo the green shirt yawner is baaaaack
tsuchigumo [-\]: or something like that 
feafft: alright comrade!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: that's Ilya
Sebastian [2k\]: funny green guy lol
Larrave [3k\]: is he drunk
Larrave [3k\]: lol
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: green shirt is former Champion Ilia Shikshin 7d
Larrave [3k\]: XD
mcw85 [7k\]: Dancing for us.
LugPaj [2d\]: SE loves b
mcw85 [7k\]: Ilya won both 9x9 and 13x13.
asrai [7k\]: Did ilja have no match this round?
Larrave [3k\]: se just sees whats gonna happen
Porkypine [8k\]: Awesome
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: he won easely
mcw85 [7k\]: He won it quickly.
asrai [7k\]: who did he play?
mcw85 [7k\]: What rank was he playing?
engels [?\]: Ilya played Mika Urtela
Larrave [3k\]: ah
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Ilya is 7d
Ruutana [?\]: Hahah
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: https://77.167.221.121/Go/Pairing.aspx
DragnSlayr [1k\]: Rob is fainting
Larrave [3k\]: black looks more happy now than before
engels [?\]: 4D from Finland
mcw85 [7k\]: 4d
tsuchigumo [-\]: b survived a crisis, but fell behind imo
cuby [2k\]: tenuki?  j3?
Open2: b center moyo possible
Novalys [2k\]: b is fine
cuby [2k\]: E6?
LugPaj [2d\]: b got tea, that makes him happy
Novalys [2k\]: black needs f11 for center moyo
mcw85 [7k\]: E6 over playe.
songha [1k\]: hey guo
yithril [2d\]: get em guo juan
Javaness [2d\]: http://egc2009.nl/?q=node/1472
playgo2: he will need to toilet like this
Larrave [3k\]: guo juan^^
Jadeite [?\]: the stopped wearing the big sashes?
cuby [2k\]: she is liveblogging the game with her eyes
Javaness [2d\]: that link has pairing and round 4 results
Larrave [3k\]: shes funny
Larrave [3k\]: want to hear some comments from her
Larrave [3k\]: XD
cuby [2k\]: best teacher ever
]
;W[kh]C[ufhz824r [5k\]: dinerchtein is completely relaxed isn't he?
Q161 [13k?\]: doesnt look like it
Larrave [3k\]: l12 was the headreddening move
ufhz824r [5k\]: lol
tsuchigumo [-\]: I didnÄ' like r13 for w, looked very passive
tsuchigumo [-\]: didn't*
cuby [2k\]: agree
playgo2: w is noisy!!
cuby [2k\]: after all that, r13 seemed slow
qgo [4k\]: the mouthshape
derp [1k\]: can he pull p8 out?
cuby [2k\]: he gave up humongous ko for that
derp [1k\]: *q8
tsuchigumo [-\]: typical of the "This game is won just play safe" move
Sebastian [2k\]: its attacking
Javaness [2d\]: R13 is working well
mcw85 [7k\]: I liked r13?
tsuchigumo [-\]: something like p12 must have been better
bartosh [4k\]: how much time left?
Javaness [2d\]: why didn't he play p12 then? :)
cuby [2k\]: plenty of time
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;B[ke]C[ufhz824r [5k\]: they should attach temperature sensors to the ears of the players. So we will know then a move is good. ;-)
Larrave [3k\]: peep
Larrave [3k\]: wait on
tsuchigumo [-\]: see above, just quickly played a shape move
Larrave [3k\]: tea empty
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: zoom coming in
Larrave [3k\]: soon his service will come backXD
mcw85 [7k\]: He consumed his beverage with the ferocity of a lion.
cuby [2k\]: zooooooooom
Porkypine [8k\]: 1:40 - 1:23
]
;W[je]C[bartosh [4k\]: ok i saw it :)
]
;B[kb]
;W[jb]
;B[kd]C[Porkypine [8k\]: Plenty of Go left still them :D
]
;W[jc]C[Ripples [7k\]: lion?
Ripples [7k\]: he was taking gerbel sips
play234 [-\]: wow pretty good quality on the cam to be able to zoom in so well
Javaness [2d\]: P12 is bad leaves obvious shape problem
Ruzinus [5k\]: FIERCE gerbil sips
playgo2: this is good time for b to attack the huge group
Larrave [3k\]: guess black bit nervous
cuby [2k\]: lol drink like suffering from severe OCD
Larrave [3k\]: yes
Larrave [3k\]: thats what i thought too cuby
Larrave [3k\]: XD
Open2: OCD?
Zureiyaa [-\]: obsessive compulsive disorder
cuby [2k\]: *sip* [2 seconds\] *sip* [2 seconds\]
Ruzinus [5k\]: guys, we dont need to obsess about OCD
Javaness [2d\]: breakfast is necking a glass of whiskey
tsuchigumo [-\]: how doies b move with r12 after p12?
Jadeite [?\]: maybe it's hot
MoogleOo [-\]: Black is absolutely happy there?
tsuchigumo [-\]: does*
Ripples [7k\]: referees making sure no one is getting out of line
Ripples [7k\]: :)
asrai [7k\]: Javaness, Alex isn't irish! :)
Javaness [2d\]: these hard drinking russians
cuby [2k\]: ref still can't find his neck
Larrave [3k\]: referee gonna watch about the tea
asrai [7k\]: if it was clear maybe :)\\
Jadeite [?\]: wodka?
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: pretty girl ^^
Onmyoji [2d\]: was that breakfast's wife?
]
;B[jj]C[Javaness [2d\]: no
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: ^^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: move played on board 1
TeeSushi [2d\]: took its time
cuby [2k\]: K10 says L12 was bluff
Larrave [3k\]: hes gonna tell his wife another "tea"
Larrave [3k\]: XD
Q161 [13k?\]: rofl
Open2: why are there so many rules sets and differences in time settings? One should create a worldwide go association and vote for standard rules and time settings
ppc [4k\]: e6
feafft: ok comrade
cuby [2k\]: here, have half my stuff
leger [1d\]: Open2, didnt you do the exact same comment earlier ?.. why don't you try and do it ?
Ripples [7k\]: the red menace stirs...
asrai [7k\]: communism is beautiful. 
Open2: nobody answered
engels [?\]: e6 is small - if black drops the two stones, they are small. If black saves them, white has a weak group.
Javaness [2d\]: Open2, nobody cares
mcw85 [7k\]: What a zoom.
asrai [7k\]: no western propaganda thank you ^_^
mcw85 [7k\]: You should start a career in H-wood.
Larrave [3k\]: communism only works if all play on the rules=)
Ruzinus [5k\]: someone once said the same thing about governments
cuby [2k\]: that is methmaking lab equip in bg
Ruzinus [5k\]: that didnt quite work out
IGoofy [1d\]: spy
CookieMon [12k\]: haha,
asrai [7k\]: Democracy only works if everybody plays by the rules too
Russianlll [4k\]: b leading big time
asrai [7k\]: so i'll nod at mr bush
cuby [2k\]: ipod ad
Open2: in other sports there are associations like this and there arent problems with them
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: P8 seems like a good idea to me
mcw85 [7k\]: If Ms. Zhang enters the room again, can you follow her?
leger [1d\]: p8 smalls
noned [2d\]: pretty even game so far
cuby [2k\]: does it still seem even?
leger [1d\]: r8 aren't cutting stones or anything, just a few points
engels [?\]: p8 is small. Unimportant stones, and white will not get under attack
Sebastian [2k\]: are players allowed to talk to others when they are gone? :D
engels [?\]: Sebastian: yes
noned [2d\]: 8 point komi is huge though
Sebastian [2k\]: thx
Filanator [20k\]: 7.5 really
noned [2d\]: 8
Q161 [13k?\]: Dinerchtein left room to check kgs kibitz for tips
herminator [2d?\]: but not about their game :)
Filanator [20k\]: but black wins draws
Q161 [13k?\]: now hes back at board
engels [?\]: White will have to find something to justify l12.
DarkJC [?\]: He was looking for tips but all he found were compliments about his wife
Sebastian [2k\]: b gave o rissei a call lol
Larrave [3k\]: XD
asrai [7k\]: lol jc
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: lol
LugPaj [2d\]: e6 now?
Larrave [3k\]: breakfast last login 12:05
Larrave [3k\]: XD
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;W[mo]C[Q161 [13k?\]: secret acct obviously
engels [?\]: So he probably is looking for a way to make the cut around m11/n11 work\\
OasisDK [7k?\]: B went to check SE  :P
asrai [7k\]: lol
sameasyou [2d\]: if this game would be on KGS this would be a 8 or 9 d game...Dinerstein can't rely on KGS chat...he will have to do it himself :)
Larrave [3k\]: i guess black sad^^
Larrave [3k\]: because white found out about the moyo
Dreamland [1k?\]: h3
Sakeus [-\]: :)
mcw85 [7k\]: Haha!
Sebastian [2k\]: lol
Sebastian [2k\]: zoom
Q161 [13k?\]: haha go EuroGoTv!!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hehe, as requested
mcw85 [7k\]: if she saw you...
songha [1k\]: nice fan service
mcw85 [7k\]: LO
mcw85 [7k\]: L
Sakeus [-\]: :)
Porkypine [8k\]: She's laughing 
Porkypine [8k\]: awww
TeeSushi [2d\]: who is this?
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: lol
OasisDK [7k?\]: It's a female omg
Kayres [16k\]: why cant i watch it on eurogotv? the area is plain white. please someone help me
yuko [20k?\]: lol
yuko [20k?\]: what was that zoom
ufhz824r [5k\]: feels like a light filled my room :-)
Q161 [13k?\]: hilarious
yuko [20k?\]: on ilya's croch
mcw85 [7k\]: Bye, bye, cutie. :-(
Sakeus [-\]: :-)
mcw85 [7k\]: She will never come in here again.
magners [3k\]: don't make her feel uncomfortable :|
yuko [20k?\]: is she  a pro?
tsuchigumo [-\]: I didn't like the l12 k10 exchange for w
Sakeus [-\]: no :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no
Cogita [3d\]: alexandre is pro
Dreamland [1k?\]: h3 here ?
Kayres [16k\]: eurogotv why cant i watch this game on ur hp?
Kayres [16k\]: please help
Larrave [3k\]: h3 looks small
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: byo yomi?
Sebastian [2k\]: perhaps you lack something
mcw85 [7k\]: HP?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 1 min byo
playgo2: b starting to take the lead
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: oki thx
Onmyoji [2d\]: damn  i missed the action on the video again
Porkypine [8k\]: It's just a regular ustream live stream. 
Q161 [13k?\]: how much time left for both?
Porkypine [8k\]: You might have to download a plugin
mcw85 [7k\]: < 1 hr
ufhz824r [5k\]: use firefox if you have video problems
Kayres [16k\]: it doesnt tell which one or where i have to do this
Kayres [16k\]: i use firefox
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: download flash from http://adobe.com
Sebastian [2k\]: working fine on safari
yithril [2d\]: not the portly woman right?
yithril [2d\]: ooh is it her?
Kayres [16k\]: ive got the last version. 11,22 sth
mcw85 [7k\]: No.
Kayres [16k\]: 10*
yithril [2d\]: im so curious, i dont know why
yithril [2d\]: maybe cuz its 6:15 am
mcw85 [7k\]: Do you have an account?
]
;B[np]C[yithril [2d\]: yeah im watching rightn ow
Kayres [16k\]: yes i do
playgo2: hoo clean your glass thet will help
TeeSushi [2d\]: uh a professional
Porkypine [8k\]: That's a pro ^_^
yithril [2d\]: awesome he gets a sash
songha [1k\]: lol
Sebastian [2k\]: professional???
Sebastian [2k\]: tzz
songha [1k\]: professional sash that's hilarious
Meareal [4k\]: whos that?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 9p\\
Dreamland [1k?\]: erm, this is sente somehow ?
mcw85 [7k\]: Yuan Chan?
Q161 [13k?\]: lolol
mcw85 [7k\]: Oh, no.
mcw85 [7k\]: Who is it?
yithril [2d\]: so do the 1ps get ike just ribbons?
TeeSushi [2d\]: roln was there
cuby [2k\]: look at this rogues gallery of desirable men
yithril [2d\]: this one?
Spinaltap [3d?\]: whats the link to video again? sorry i missed it
IGoofy [1d\]: hope the pro didnt walked in the streets like that
yithril [2d\]: the chick with the glasses?
yuko [20k?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the pro was Shinichi Aoki I believe
Spinaltap [3d?\]: thx
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: http://egc2009.nl/?q=professionals
Q161 [13k?\]: what does o4 do?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]:  live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: connect
Open2: how can o4 be better than h3?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: and attack
Ripples [7k\]: room is bustling now
engels [?\]: Threaten to cut with o5, and defend against invasion around m3
mcw85 [7k\]: Thanks for link.
Porkypine [8k\]: I saw some of Masaraka Saijo's reviews on wednesday. He's really funny
Open2: ok ty
Porkypine [8k\]: Masataka*
Kayres [16k\]: i installed adobe flash. it still does not work :(
TeeSushi [2d\]: saijo bob ;)
Jadeite [?\]: Yes, he's very funny :)
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: WC?? ^^ for black
playgo2: i told you he will need to wc
playgo2: after all of the tea
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: lol
Sebastian [2k\]: saleguy
Porkypine [8k\]: Is that Frank Janssen there? :O
Munters: yes
engels [?\]: Yes, it is
Porkypine [8k\]: Awesome
mcw85 [7k\]: Someone buiy that shirt already.
mcw85 [7k\]: Soo yellow.
Porkypine [8k\]: Does that mean he's done with his game?
Kayres [16k\]: -.-
playgo2: w getting crazy
engels [?\]: Not necessarily, may just be walking around during his opponent's move
engels [?\]: Just like Alexander was doing
playgo2: my video his stuck
mcw85 [7k\]: Refresh.
Porkypine [8k\]: I had the same a while back. Refresh the page
yithril [2d\]: "I am bored with you."
playgo2: not working
playgo2: ??????
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry about that, someone else sat at it and went through the moves
Sebastian [2k\]: lol
Sakeus [-\]: :)
Porkypine [8k\]: lol
Q161 [13k?\]: did you banhammer them?
Mikki62 [2k\]: no p
Munters: Started a review?
method [-\]: actually i'm quite happy about that
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Harry explained it is live ;)
method [-\]: i didn't see the start
IGoofy [1d\]: your little bro i guess
playgo2: my video his back
Q161 [13k?\]: method if you clone the game you can go through it
Jadeite [?\]: or view offline
Porkypine [8k\]: oh wow
yithril [2d\]: he should play his stone like in hikaru no go
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: the next moves will  be very important for the moyos
Gleb81 [4k?\]: nozoki
yithril [2d\]: and make a wooshing sound as he lays the stone
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;W[kk]C[yithril [2d\]: "Kerblam!!"
yuko [20k?\]: lmao
method [-\]: Q: true, thanks
Q161 [13k?\]: np
Porkypine [8k\]: yithril, He could also contemplate looking frustrated and spinning his body 180 degrees whilst doing it
method [-\]: anyways props for the live cam
Porkypine [8k\]: *WOOOOOOOOSH TURN LOOKG ANGRY BLAM*
]
;B[kj]C[Sebastian [2k\]: thank you move?
playgo2: whet going on with b siting way
Open2: how old is roln?
yithril [2d\]: 12
Zureiyaa [-\]: 20
Zureiyaa [-\]: 21
MoogleOo [-\]: 22
yithril [2d\]: go makes you grow up faster
Sakeus [-\]: 23
Sebastian [2k\]: 24
Highwayman [1d\]: 25
Timi [8k\]: 26
yuko [20k?\]: 22
yithril [2d\]: dinerschtein is actually 100
Jadeite [?\]: ok
Meareal [4k\]: unfunny~
Kantid [4k\]: 9000
Q161 [13k?\]: C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
MoogleOo [-\]: hey, he's really old
Zureiyaa [-\]: lloloolol
Sebastian [2k\]: stone buddha
yithril [2d\]: not her right?
Q161 [13k?\]: nope
method [-\]: this girl coulnd't be more shy
yithril [2d\]: dangit cmon
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: for thosewho don't know what Harry looks like, he's standing there
playgo2: could we take a short look on the other table pliz????
Q161 [13k?\]: whos Harry?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Just walking left now
feafft: younger than i thought
IGoofy [1d\]: old fart
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: He's eurogotv
Jadeite [?\]: Harry is Mr EuroGoTV
Q161 [13k?\]: oo
yithril [2d\]: ooh how about her?
MoogleOo [-\]: Harry Potter
LeoDorst1: he's 41 and a grandfather since december
Sakeus [-\]: 41 grandfather ?
Sakeus [-\]: haha
Sebastian [2k\]: wow
playgo2: could we take a short look on the other table pliz????
TeeSushi [2d\]: roln :D
Q161 [13k?\]: is roln the guy on the right?
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: now b P8 could be a problem
]
;W[ml]C[yithril [2d\]: i guess black not really in all that much hot water
]
;B[hq]C[Jadeite [?\]: roln in green shirt and grey jacket
yithril [2d\]: and dinerchtein agrees
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: rob very stress
qgo [4k\]: can white cut at n 11 ?
Q161 [13k?\]: i thought the green shirt guy was shikshin
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: no because  N14
tsuchigumo [-\]: w gone off the boil since r13
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: he is
songha [1k\]: full house
Q161 [13k?\]: wait, roln = shikshin?
Jadeite [?\]: Q161 roln is shikshin's KGS name :)
Q161 [13k?\]: lewl
yithril [2d\]: wow
yithril [2d\]: this is kind of annoying for w
Q161 [13k?\]: should be 9d kgs
mcw85 [7k\]: redrose is also Shikshin's name.
yithril [2d\]: next move doesn't stick out at me
mcw85 [7k\]: But a different Shikshin.
tsuchigumo [-\]: l12 definitely look on the wrong point to me
songha [1k\]: yes l12 looked odd when he played it
tsuchigumo [-\]: w must get out here
yithril [2d\]: expanding top is like worth nothing, center here is worth nothing
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: w need point
yithril [2d\]: black gorged himself on points
Jadeite [?\]: mcw85, his sister
DanOneHalf [3k\]: hey mister eurogotv in the picture
Larrave [3k\]: q12 risky for white
Larrave [3k\]: later on or
TeeSushi [2d\]: teritory about the same size ... but i think b has better potential
yithril [2d\]: like at least 55 points for b
DanOneHalf [3k\]: this is mister eurogotv
Open2: what about g13?
DanOneHalf [3k\]: hey Harry howsthings going
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: can see time?
]
;W[hk]C[yithril [2d\]: okay
yithril [2d\]: risky plan
mcw85 [7k\]: 1:21 1:03
mcw85 [7k\]: 1:31*
Q161 [13k?\]: 1:31*
Zureiyaa [-\]: white is winning ez
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: thx
Sakeus [-\]: he have always good siting pose :)
mcw85 [7k\]: EGTV2, what does Ilya get for winning 9x9 and 13x13?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: scribe for the last 10 minutes was Yu Hui Wang, 7 dan professional
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: http://egc2009.nl/?q=node/1261
sameasyou [2d\]: tell him we all thank him
mcw85 [7k\]: I'm glad I didn't say anything stupid.
LeoDorst1: it sure made a difference
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: lol
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: gekke Leo
LugPaj [2d\]: it felt so different
Q161 [13k?\]: im also curious about mcw's question
hanskrens [7k\]: Great Move!
TeeSushi [2d\]: n14 ?
Zureiyaa [-\]: white is having no problems winning this game
]
;B[jh]C[Larrave [3k\]: whats the idea behind h9
qgo [4k\]: m 14?
Larrave [3k\]: black group isnt that weak
mcw85 [7k\]: Destroy  Bmoyo?
hanskrens [7k\]: E6 ladder, also making b terr smaller
noned [2d\]: w might aim for the peep at o11 and maybe cut after that?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]:  live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Violence [-\]: Beh?
]
;W[ni]C[Violence [-\]: White's falling apart at the seams, I thnk
Larrave [3k\]: ah he did now
]
;B[nh]C[yithril [2d\]: omg he played the move i was thinking of
yithril [2d\]: holy crap
TeeSushi [2d\]: if dinerchtein wins i guess he is top candidate for thetitle
]
;W[mi]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Him or Catalin.
LugPaj [2d\]:  dinerchtein lost once
Violence [-\]: I don't think Rob can win this game... it seems farfetched.
mcw85 [7k\]: How is Catalin's game?
TeeSushi [2d\]: catalin lost twice
Violence [-\]: Catalin already lost two games, mcw
mcw85 [7k\]: Oh, he did?
Violence [-\]: He lost to Thomas Debarre
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: he lost to Thomas Debarre last round
mcw85 [7k\]: Oh, yeah, to a 5d. :-/
Jadeite [?\]: wow
Larrave [3k\]: uh
]
;B[kg]C[Bipolair [2k\]: ...
Larrave [3k\]: not his tournament or what
monk316 [1k\]: the count is even, no?
Violence [-\]: haha, guess not
Mot [3k\]: thomas too strong
LugPaj [2d\]: k13
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: it was a smart loss to get easyer paring rest of the tournament
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ^^
TeeSushi [2d\]: lol
Mekanik [5d\]: young french player thomas is strong, not an ordinary 5d
gdghgjd [1d\]: perhaps thomas debarre is top candidate too, because he is 3:1 too
]
;W[li]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Anyone know how Cornel is doing against In-Seong?
]
;B[jg]
;W[ji]C[TeeSushi [2d\]: now its getting tricky for alex
Violence [-\]: I don't think so
Violence [-\]: these stones are small
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: fight or sacrifice?
Violence [-\]: I think black can just play M12
noned [2d\]: h9 is nice now
Violence [-\]: and then H13
LugPaj [2d\]: someone still 4:0 in the tournament`?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 2
Violence [-\]: of course, Lug
Open2: why k13 and not l11 instead?
]
;B[ij]C[Q161 [13k?\]: but isnt the o9 area big?
Q161 [13k?\]: w would get a lot
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: l 11 bad
Violence [-\]: jeez, Breakfast is daring
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: m13 now?
Violence [-\]: I dunno what M13 does
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: European Youth Champion says m13 is good
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: and he won the poker tournament yesterday so......
yithril [2d\]: black connects out still
mcw85 [7k\]: How about checkers?
mcw85 [7k\]: But can he play checkers?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no
Open2: m13 for w?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yes , ofcourse what do you think
Q161 [13k?\]: checkers very difficult game though
Hyuins: no see the video...
ufhz824r [5k\]: hasn't checkers been solved by computers?
Violence [-\]: it's pretty tough for white, on close inspection
Open2: yes
Violence [-\]: his local stones don't do enough
Violence [-\]: swiping at air
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: he is also champion in checkers
mcw85 [7k\]: Checkers is more complicated than go.
mcw85 [7k\]: Impossible.
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: wanne bet?
Porkypine [8k\]: Didn't they solve checkers before they solved connect four? lol
Q161 [13k?\]: probably :)
Violence [-\]: no, porkypine
mcw85 [7k\]: You will lie because you have no heart.
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: time white decrease
]
;W[lg]C[Violence [-\]: Checkers was solved much more recently
yuko [20k?\]: solved?
Porkypine [8k\]: ah he went for m13
ufhz824r [5k\]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkers#Computational_complexity
yuko [20k?\]: as the sure fire way to win
]
;B[lh]
;W[ki]C[Violence [-\]: Just M12...
yithril [2d\]: n14
Violence [-\]: white wanted to get L11 in sente?
yithril [2d\]: i guess
Violence [-\]: I mean... that's what this does...
]
;B[lf]
;W[ig]C[HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: close moyo?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: see the ko Bq12
mcw85 [7k\]: Square-ish territory.
gogonuts [4d\]: interesting move at J13
Chilltime [2k\]: eurogo the ko looks bad isnt it?
gogonuts [4d\]: trying to make these 3 black stones more important
Chilltime [2k\]: pretty big if white loses it
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yes, but in time
]
;B[ih]
;W[ii]C[NitramF [3k\]: Harry wat wil je drinken?
Q161 [13k?\]: b looks great in this position
]
;B[hj]
;W[hh]
;B[mg]C[gogonuts [4d\]: on the board or on the screen?
Q161 [13k?\]: board
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ja, koffie
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: met melk en suiker
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: L 14 better than N 12 in yose no?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: graag
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ^^
TeeSushi [2d\]: coffee with milk and sugar .. ok
mcw85 [7k\]: Ugh, milk and sugar.
hanskrens [7k\]: zwart verliest langzaam het intiatief. Kom op, Rob!
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: to stay awake
Mikki62 [2k\]: show the champ :)
Open2: ask roln his opinion please
Mikki62 [2k\]: oh..... that was roln?
Sebastian [2k\]: q12?
gogonuts [4d\]: is g10 possible?
Javaness [2d\]: Taranu is the champ
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: J 7,
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: ?
HeiBeiTzu [6k\]: for black after
XX124: Black has more territory
Open2: did taranu and breakfast ever played each other?
mcw85 [7k\]: Yes.
XX124: breakfast won
Open2: what s the score between them?
XX124: Tuchola
mcw85 [7k\]: 3-2
mcw85 [7k\]: Alexandre.
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: little girl is 6d
gogonuts [4d\]: little monster
mcw85 [7k\]: No way.
Mikki62 [2k\]: does she have a head?
watergun [-\]: where is the little girl from ?
Mikki62 [2k\]: aaahhhhh :)
Arhiman [3k\]: poor girl, stop following her...
kane955 [4k\]: follow the girl in pink!!!
TeeSushi [2d\]: teritory still about even .. i think black has the advantage
Arhiman [3k\]: and now she gets afraid...
kane955 [4k\]: is she a young female go prodigy?
LugPaj [2d\]: who is that girl?
Q161 [13k?\]: shes 6d
kane955 [4k\]: how old?
LugPaj [2d\]: not rank, name
Porkypine [8k\]: 12 I think
kane955 [4k\]: hmm so is kghin stronger?
]
;W[gj]C[gogonuts [4d\]: war again
papamisha [2d\]: too brave for me
Mikki62 [2k\]: oh... how is that supposed to work?
gogonuts [4d\]: i thought w might play a leaning attack at the bottom first
Javaness [2d\]: MagicOfGo strikes!
mcw85 [7k\]: Java, why the name?
Open2: magicofgo his kgs nick?
Javaness [2d\]: never heard of the magic of go column?
LugPaj [2d\]: no, his websitge
LugPaj [2d\]: website
]
;B[il]
;W[hi]C[gogonuts [4d\]: even if it doesnt work, allowing b g10 would have admited defeat
gogonuts [4d\]: the attack is allready starting to look more reasonable
gogonuts [4d\]: allready achieved something
IGoofy [1d\]: wow a bearded girl
watergun [-\]: who is man in red?
LugPaj [2d\]: your definition of girl needs some reconsideration
Porkypine [8k\]: Oh a guy I know just walked in. yay 
Open2: roln smiled when he saw the board
Porkypine [8k\]: It's really crowded in there now :( poor players
]
;B[gk]C[Javaness [2d\]: black about 60 territory?
Aspie [3k\]: is black ahead ? 
OasisDK [7k?\]: I think when they're at that level they've learnt to not care about spectators..
]
;W[hl]C[Javaness [2d\]: white less cash i think
Javaness [2d\]: seems close
papamisha [2d\]: close as usual )
Q161 [13k?\]: g11
Lepenski [1k\]: f10
sameasyou [2d\]: Eurogotv3 escaped
LugPaj [2d\]: w a18 possible in endgame
gogonuts [4d\]: dunno if h8 works, but h9 was not allowed to fall
mcw85 [7k\]: B is going to split the crotch of his pants sitting like that.
Sebastian [2k\]: w can attack and cash some points
Q161 [13k?\]: EuroGoTv, whats time on clocks?
Cassis0 [5d\]: maybe b17 better than a18, because sente
mcw85 [7k\]: B must play bamboo?
mcw85 [7k\]: 1:16 0:47
EuroGoTV2 [-\]:  live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Cassis0 [5d\]: this cannot work for whiste
Q161 [13k?\]: coo
mcw85 [7k\]: 1x1min BY, righht?
Onmyoji [2d\]: f10 
Cassis0 [5d\]: j7
Javaness [2d\]: depends what white wants to do
Open2: e6 cut and ladder after bamboo?
Sebastian [2k\]: funny haircuts
IGoofy [1d\]: selfmade
Sebastian [2k\]: these are the best ^^
papamisha [2d\]: lot of variants
cuby [2k\]: GIANT green tea carton
IGoofy [1d\]: tetra whiskey
Sebastian [2k\]: w plays timesuji ^^
]
;B[im]C[gogonuts [4d\]: there seems to be an especially annoying kibitz to the left of the camera
XX124: white 2 stones captured
Q161 [13k?\]: w seems doomed
yithril [2d\]: it appears resistance was futile
Javaness [2d\]: white will just nobi train
Sebastian [2k\]: cannot cut?
gogonuts [4d\]: f9, g8, h7?
xpolyplus [4k\]: no
Open2: e6 e7 f6? otherwise f9 ladder works?
frktos [2k\]: not hair cut?
munter: just H7?
Sebastian [2k\]: j9 looks nicekyumove ^^
Mot [3k\]: red guy falling asleep
IGoofy [1d\]: w can resign
mcw85 [7k\]: Black has adder if white tries to cut.
Ninjan [6k\]: he really is sleeping
elohimmeth [1d\]: while wininng igoofy?
Sebastian [2k\]: XD
qgo [4k\]: maybe w J 5 ?
munter: W can start a ko on Q12 later on if needed
papamisha [2d\]: E6 interesting cut
IGoofy [1d\]: thx for the broadcast
LugPaj [2d\]: that would be a desaster ko for w
XX124: q12 doesn't work
Kantid [4k\]: q12 ko better for b, then for W
TeeSushi [2d\]: harry can you show us board 1? very interesting fight
TeeSushi [2d\]: please
TeeSushi [2d\]: :)
gdghgjd [1d\]: please :-)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: backs....
TeeSushi [2d\]: oh lol great view xD
mcw85 [7k\]: His backpack has jets.
TeeSushi [2d\]: but tahnks ^^
gogonuts [4d\]: it certainly looks like w could have tried a leaning attack at the bottom
Sebastian [2k\]: common j9 
IGoofy [1d\]: are they reviewing now ?
kane955 [4k\]: whos holding the strongest rank at this tournament?
Open2: catalin 5p?
Sakeus [-\]: catalin?
Sakeus [-\]: :)
TeeSushi [2d\]: yeah big thanks :D
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: J9 looks interesting
]
;W[fk]C[TeeSushi [2d\]: now you only have to ask this guy standing there to hold a mirror so we can see blacks face ;) 
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: lol
Jadeite [?\]: and maybe you can juggle some plates as well Harry :)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: juggle?
yithril [2d\]: throw them in the air and catch them
Porkypine [8k\]: Jongleren ^_^
yithril [2d\]: over and over again
Javaness [2d\]: white misread the ladder :)
playgo2: hoo great
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: lol
Jadeite [?\]: :P
TeeSushi [2d\]: maybe he isnt playing the ladder?
Javaness [2d\]: oh! i didn't think of that
mcw85 [7k\]: Java made funny.
]
;B[gl]
;W[hm]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: that was your 1 joke of the day Java^^
Javaness [2d\]: :(
Kantid [4k\]: alexandr facepalming... why?
papamisha [2d\]: F10 - must be now
mcw85 [7k\]: Is the video delay so you can edit any profanities or nudity to keep this G rated?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yes
Porkypine [8k\]: Java you're only allowed to make one joke per day? How boring!
sameasyou [2d\]: not f10
]
;B[fl]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the man in the t-shirt just flashed everyone, but it was edited out
mcw85 [7k\]: Haha.
mcw85 [7k\]: Thank goodness.
Jadeite [?\]: Streakers a problem at Go tournaments?
IGoofy [1d\]: festus
Muscadet [?\]: f7 then cut
mcw85 [7k\]: Can Ms. ... Nevermind.
Onmyoji [2d\]: lol
Draak [1d\]: how can w win this?
mcw85 [7k\]: I don't see what W is aiming for.
leger [1d\]: i feel white can win this
Javaness [2d\]: J9?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: j9
Q161 [13k?\]: w lost already
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no, he is still playing
Q161 [13k?\]: oh woops
]
;W[hn]C[Javaness [2d\]: nobi train
Porkypine [8k\]: tschu tschu
mcw85 [7k\]: Wel, yeah J9, but I don't see it workin.
Sebastian [2k\]: spectators have their hands in the face
TeeSushi [2d\]: l7 ?
Javaness [2d\]: 3 guys are all wearing the same trousers
sameasyou [2d\]: g11
mcw85 [7k\]: They shop at te same store.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: different colours, just looks the same
Lepenski [1k\]: k8
Kantid [4k\]: it's international go-form
Jadeite [?\]: must be some big trousers
TeeSushi [2d\]: right g11 good too
Sebastian [2k\]: atari for b?
sameasyou [2d\]: k8 not good...L8 better..but I think b first g11
qgo [4k\]: 3 leegs in 1 pant each
qgo [4k\]: leggs
Kantid [4k\]: disgusting
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: i like L7 too
qgo [4k\]: and only one fly
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: why didnt work j9 immidiatly?
mcw85 [7k\]: Tell Rob not to bite that finger off.
mcw85 [7k\]: There was a ladder for B.
qgo [4k\]: he auto-cannibal
Kantid [4k\]: j9 is too easy; i would l7 
qgo [4k\]: starts with one finger
veteran [1d\]: what's the eurogotv website?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]:  live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Lepenski [1k\]: good move for W
veteran [1d\]: thanks
]
;B[gi]
;W[fj]
;B[fi]
;W[ik]C[sameasyou [2d\]: I should be honorary 8d KGS
Javaness [2d\]: no way
sameasyou [2d\]: 9d?
Javaness [2d\]: get out of here
sameasyou [2d\]: there is no 10d
Porkypine [8k\]: honorary 30kyu
sameasyou [2d\]: but thanks :)
Porkypine [8k\]: *giggles*
LugPaj [2d\]: i want to be 30k
LugPaj [2d\]: i never saw a 30 k account here
Javaness [2d\]: I was 30k for a month
sameasyou [2d\]: going down always an easy road...going up is harder
Spaghetti [6k\]: what's the orange band thing all about?
sameasyou [2d\]: I was 30 k for 21 years
]
;B[jk]C[Reiter101 [-\]: since kgs opened low rankes move alot faster and high ranks are slower
]
;W[jl]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Referee.
Reiter101 [-\]: i mean cgoban 3
Spaghetti [6k\]: ah, ummm what for
Porkypine [8k\]: Pros and referees wear orange bands
Spaghetti [6k\]: ah ok
Porkypine [8k\]: Normal Participants wear red ones
Porkypine [8k\]: I think
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: pros and the organization wear orange bands
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: pros blue
mcw85 [7k\]: I believe he speaks of the sashes.
Porkypine [8k\]: oh
sameasyou [2d\]: they should invent a colour especially for me
mcw85 [7k\]: "The Organization"
Jadeite [?\]: Don't the pro's have hats with windmills on them?
sameasyou [2d\]: Jadeite :)
Jadeite [?\]: :P
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: with 'band' I meant the small one around the neck
JoK [6k\]: so it's possible the ask a orange banded guy to put new toilet paper in the restrooms and he is in fact a 9p pro ^^
mcw85 [7k\]: I have one of those.
]
;B[kl]
;W[jm]C[IGoofy [1d\]: kyus wear toilet chains
]
;B[ll]C[yithril [2d\]: take then white k4
yithril [2d\]: opps
yithril [2d\]: okay
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: referees wear an orange sash over the band
yithril [2d\]: nm
Spaghetti [6k\]: ty
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: while pros wear a blue sash over their orange band
yithril [2d\]: well no l7 maybe
mcw85 [7k\]: Referees wear grillz.
]
;W[lm]C[Kantid [4k\]: bad, everyone should wear kimono and long beards
Jadeite [?\]: even the girls?
Lepenski [1k\]: point to point =won
Kantid [4k\]: especially girls
mcw85 [7k\]: ?
Open2: girls with long beards are disgusting
]
;B[ph]C[mcw85 [7k\]: No mo ko.
Porkypine [8k\]: I know right. I like them trimmed >: (. Trim your beards!
]
;W[pg]C[JoK [6k\]: or tolkiens dwarfs
Draak [1d\]: b win
Porkypine [8k\]: Have a little faith in rob <3
Edelweiss [1k\]: gimli is your best friend :)
Javaness [2d\]: F13 seems big
TeeSushi [2d\]: g2 
yithril [2d\]: was that sente?
mcw85 [7k\]: 1:02 0:35
IGoofy [1d\]: sente is japanese for long  beard
Larrave [3k\]: hm
awers [2d\]:  0:35 1:02
Vondel [2k\]: what went wrong for w
Edelweiss [1k\]: sente cause risk of kill
Vondel [2k\]: seems he didnt get much from the 'attack'on the weak b stones
Draak [1d\]: indeed
]
;B[km]
;W[in]
;B[ln]
;W[mm]C[Jocky [3d\]: lol
Jocky [3d\]: :D
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i diasagree
kjp [1k\]: Is Rob in time presure ?
Vondel [2k\]: who is eurogotv2 ?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i9 am
Porkypine [8k\]: he has 35 minutes left
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i am
kjp [1k\]: ok
Vondel [2k\]: I see
]
;B[ko]C[mcw85 [7k\]: he is cool.
Aspie [3k\]: L6 instead N7?
Q161 [13k?\]: before byo yomi
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: HW9x9
Vondel [2k\]: and who are you ?
Vondel [2k\]: ah ;)
mcw85 [7k\]: He is the best around.
Vondel [2k\]: thought that wa eurogotv1 ;'
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: http://hw9x9.nl
insomniac [5k\]: and TV1 is 11x11?
ZeroCool [3k\]: can I be EuroGoTV0?
awers [2d\]: Rob has 35 minutes left
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: sure
Kantid [4k\]: eurogo, can you show us your face on the camera. we want to know our heroes
kjp [1k\]: He is looking so uncarm, as if time was running out
Lepenski [1k\]: B move verry nice
Jocky [3d\]: rly?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i was on screen when the 7p was behind the laptop
TeeSushi [2d\]: lol
Blubbel [8k\]: what 7p?
Vondel [2k\]: but regarding the game
Fajnymis [3d\]: u are a star than
Q161 [13k?\]: Yu Hui Wang
Vondel [2k\]: what did white get from the attack
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: http://egc2009.nl/?q=node/1261
Vondel [2k\]: seems b has won the middle game 
Edelweiss [1k\]: alexander is looking fine
ben0 [5d\]: eurogo, did you know who win between Oh chi min and Thomas Debarre ?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: http://egc2009.nl/?q=node/1261
Onmyoji [2d\]: did w try to become pro?
Javaness [2d\]: white not alive yet
]
;W[jo]C[Porkypine [8k\]: He went to Japan and was an Insei for a while I think
ZeroCool [3k\]: what a quick rise in ranks O_o
Jocky [3d\]: trik go
Jocky [3d\]: :D
Open2: preparing ko
Lepenski [1k\]: ko?
Hyuins: :D
IGoofy [1d\]: ko digger
EuroGoTV2 [-\]:  live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 
Blubbel [8k\]: yu hui wang also playing at this tournament?
Porkypine [8k\]: But he didn't like the stuffy feeling and now he's a Go tutor in Japan, I think
sdffdsdf: this ko would b nearly hanami for w ... as b i'd prefer L6 over L5
Porkypine [8k\]: Not sure though so don't hold me responsible if it's wrong lol
Lepenski [1k\]: bl5
sameasyou [2d\]: sdfffdsdf what is hanami?
sdffdsdf: hanami-ko, flower-ko
]
;B[kn]C[sameasyou [2d\]: b can afford to defend ...w has to connect to g5
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: n9
sameasyou [2d\]: damn..I'm slow
]
;W[jq]C[Lepenski [1k\]: what say 7pro?
]
;B[jr]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: hello, how are you today
]
;W[kp]
;B[lp]
;W[jp]
;B[kr]C[Lepenski [1k\]: thANK YOU
]
;W[mn]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: :o
Open2: white is winning
elohimmeth [1d\]: :S
kenjiro43 [7k\]: do you think, Open2?
Open2: y
gelda [2k\]: i like b here
LeFourBe [5d\]: H4 ?
Javaness [2d\]: it's a yose game
Hyuins: blancas está perdiendo no?
gelda [2k\]: m5 before lefourbe no ?
kenjiro43 [7k\]: m5 best, I guess
ben0 [5d\]: m5 not sente
Xiangqi [4k\]: Se says B wins but only if he kills a bunch of live stones and stuff
Lepenski [1k\]: H4
asedfr1: what about the cut at e6
Open2: hasta ahora no es seguro para me
hassimov [11k\]: why h4?
Porkypine [8k\]: Also there's an 8 point komi
Porkypine [8k\]: I think white has got this in the bag ^_^
Xiangqi [4k\]: isnt m5 her kind of forced
leger [1d\]: no
gelda [2k\]: w not alive yet
plusguy [-\]: w won already
Lasher [8k\]: chinese rules?
Porkypine [8k\]: Where isn't white alive?
plusguy [-\]: b is waiting for a good moment to resign
plusguy [-\]: :p
Porkypine [8k\]: ING rules
reilgh [3k?\]: why n6?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: g5
Lasher [8k\]: thanks
prussia [2k\]: g4
YellowFlag: simplified
DBM [?\]: this is interesting on eurogotv.com
Naurul [8k\]: w H4 
hassimov [11k\]: why h4????????
leger [1d\]: black leads 5 pts ?
Lepenski [1k\]: h4 is not good
munter: Ha, I counted black leading by 4...
hassimov [11k\]: why not m5?
qgo [4k\]: don't forget the komi = 8
hassimov [11k\]: m5 is great
Porkypine [8k\]: Ohh she's from my Go Club. She looks tired lol
leger [1d\]: 7.5, and i didn't forget it
Open2: name? address?
Open2: ^^
IGoofy [1d\]: on baldrian ?
hassimov [11k\]: xD
Porkypine [8k\]: There's the scary 6d girl
Spaghetti [6k\]: she does look scary
Porkypine [8k\]: I was thinking.. like, you know how a lot of horror movies of a lot of scary little girl ghosts and monsters right?
Porkypine [8k\]: That's what she must be like to the go players at this congress
qgo [4k\]: don't look now
Porkypine [8k\]: Crawling out of tvs and stuff..
Javaness [2d\]: ...
mcw85 [7k\]: Sang Yeong Beat Joon Sang.
sdffsdf: decent, pls
hassimov [11k\]: m5 and then h4¿¿??
sameasyou [2d\]: why M5?
hassimov [11k\]: mm...the cut
sdffsdf: m5 unnecessary
sameasyou [2d\]: I would h4
TeeSushi [2d\]: g5 ?
sdffsdf: b just H4?
Open2: f9 dead
Xiangqi [4k\]: the cut is nothing cuase b just takes the f10 guys
Lepenski [1k\]: f6 is better
hassimov [11k\]: how save the group if w play m5
hassimov [11k\]: ?
hassimov [11k\]: i dont understand
leger [1d\]: g5 ?
mcw85 [7k\]: f10 Stones are dead
Open2: e9 ladder
Xiangqi [4k\]: e9
Warfreak2 [5d\]: i estimate black+18.5
sdffsdf: my guess:  b H4
lemming [-\]: warfreak what's your next move here?
sameasyou [2d\]: sdff that was my guess before it was yours :)
kenjiro43 [7k\]: SE sais the same
erkkierkki [7k\]: gj warfreak2 0,5 doesn't count
Warfreak2 [5d\]: resign, white cannot overcome 18.5 points
Jadeite [?\]: hassimov, White can capture f10 stones, so doesn't need to connect at m5 
meuns [2k\]: black is easily winning
sdffsdf: no infringement intended :)
Jadeite [?\]: *Black
hassimov [11k\]: jeje
sameasyou [2d\]: damnnnnnn
sameasyou [2d\]: van Zeijst is black????/
hassimov [11k\]: thx jadeite
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: G4 would scare me
Porkypine [8k\]: I'm confused. The white group at h6 isn't dead, is it? 
hassimov [11k\]: xD
sameasyou [2d\]: I thought Dinerstein is black all the game
Jadeite [?\]: :)
Porkypine [8k\]: So it looks fairly even
Porkypine [8k\]: white might even be ahead
Vondel [2k\]: I still wonder where w went wrong...
Jocky [3d\]: where i can see a clasament on this competion?
sdffsdf: what??? pls clarify person-color relation
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: see my info
hassimov [11k\]: then b h4
lemming [-\]: what's a clasament?
Spaghetti [6k\]: did W won on the other table?
Xiangqi [4k\]: if b can play g4 then n6 was just horrible
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yes
hassimov [11k\]: or g5
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Clasament=romanian word
hassimov [11k\]: ?
hassimov [11k\]: xD
EuroGoTV2 [-\]:  live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 
Spaghetti [6k\]: ok ty
DrH0use [2d\]: im hungry now
TeeSushi [2d\]: g4 white can still live
sameasyou [2d\]: I'm angry now
kenjiro43 [7k\]: meaning the rankings after the games
hassimov [11k\]: h4
lemming [-\]: k thx
Passionate [3d\]: what is alex's recrod in the tourney so far?
Porkypine [8k\]: stop talking man with beard
Porkypine [8k\]: >: (
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Nvm lemming
Sebastian [2k\]: hes chewing
kenjiro43 [7k\]: You're welcome
mcw85 [7k\]: 4:1
Passionate [3d\]: who did he lose to?
mcw85 [7k\]: 3 rather
mcw85 [7k\]: Getting ahead of the game.
qgo [4k\]: Geert en Henk
Sebastian [2k\]: what is alex thinking?
hanskrens [7k\]: old men always have their pants up too high.
Youssev [5d\]: H4 does not work
Sebastian [2k\]: they have a big stomach
]
;B[fn]C[qgo [4k\]: Henk is not talking, he is chewing gum
hassimov [11k\]: F6
hassimov [11k\]: ?????????????
]
;W[iq]C[hassimov [11k\]: oO
Xiangqi [4k\]: haha
kenjiro43 [7k\]: What is going on?
LugPaj [2d\]: f6 honte
munter: I think Henk is telling Geert how he would have played...
DrH0use [2d\]: marvin gaye!
rfeafft: no m4 why?
Edelweiss [1k\]: maybe he read he can't kill cause of weakness in e6
hassimov [11k\]: j3¿¿?
veteran [1d\]: perhaps relay missed an exchange
qgo [4k\]: Henk telling Geert lol
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: is there no sound at the Live TV feed?
IGoofy [1d\]: egc troll is watching
rfeafft: oh f10 is dead
lemming [-\]: egc troll?
Kantid [4k\]: i hear only the sound of stones hitting the board
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: thats ok
lemming [-\]: oh look, dude with cane
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i made a special sound filter'
hassimov [11k\]: xDDD
Spaghetti [6k\]: there is sound
Sebastian [2k\]: some wuuuu sound
hassimov [11k\]: george lucas..
hassimov [11k\]: ??
hassimov [11k\]: =O
Sebastian [2k\]: so many geezers XD
hassimov [11k\]: why j3?
Sebastian [2k\]: how much time left?
]
;B[hr]C[Open2: attack h3 and try to make eyeshape
hassimov [11k\]: and why not w played h4?
kane955 [4k\]: g4 is life
Aspie [3k\]: H4 didn't work ?
Xiangqi [4k\]: looks like now he really has to end there in gote.  
che [-\]: game close?
Edelweiss [1k\]: h4 not working any more
Open2: 39 vs 30 min
Sebastian [2k\]: oha
Novalys [2k\]: not close if white dies che
Novalys [2k\]:  ^^
Youssev [5d\]: close game
awers [2d\]: 30 vs 39 min
derp [1k\]: close, b slightly ahead I think
che [-\]: well w wont die
Edelweiss [1k\]: W h4 alive gote ?
bartosh [4k\]: what if white will play g4?
Porkypine [8k\]: W is going to win ^_^ Yay Holland
Novalys [2k\]: black lacks good yose points
LugPaj [2d\]: m18 do big
Xiangqi [4k\]: e12 for b looks like it'll be big
Novalys [2k\]: B19 big too
Q161 [13k?\]: w lives in gote right?
Wizze [1d\]: f13 as well :>
Lepenski [1k\]: wm5j2
TouyaKoyo [15k\]: w play f12
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: some people watching, i wownder if you ever sleep :S
Lepenski [1k\]: wj2
Sebastian [2k\]: w doesnt like h2
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: m18 really quite large
Sebastian [2k\]: seems to attack left corner
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: if we're talkigng endgame
]
;W[ir]C[Xiangqi [4k\]: m18 is large? 
Javaness [2d\]: oh
Xiangqi [4k\]: you lost me on that
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: wow
Porkypine [8k\]: ohhh no g4?
Porkypine [8k\]: Scary scary 
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: m18 is better than you think
Jocky [3d\]: GO is boring
Javaness [2d\]: H4?
Jocky [3d\]: :)
TouyaKoyo [15k\]: no
Sebastian [2k\]: j2 risky?
Youssev [5d\]: H5
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: very
TouyaKoyo [15k\]: quite
Warfreak2 [5d\]: b19 quite large
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: h4
GoteExpert [?\]: not risjy
Lepenski [1k\]: j1
hassimov [11k\]: j2 is good
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: that too warfreak
Warfreak2 [5d\]: m18 is double gote
hassimov [11k\]: ;)
Jocky [3d\]: is a good move
TouyaKoyo [15k\]: f12 large
Jocky [3d\]: j2
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: g4
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: sente follow up B
fatihsulak [2d\]: g4 seems normal 
reilgh [3k?\]: yes g4
Lepenski [1k\]: j1 or m5
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: can we till
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: kill
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: if i'm black i want white dead
Aspie [3k\]: G4 kill
Warfreak2 [5d\]: b19 is about seven points reverse sente for black though
TouyaKoyo [15k\]: w is winning right now
Onmyoji [2d\]: KILL KILL KILL
Youssev [5d\]: if G4 H1
hassimov [11k\]: xD
hassimov [11k\]: kill not
Q161 [13k?\]: doesnt look like w can die
wepo52: whats their levels anyone know?
Q161 [13k?\]: he makes eye or connects under
]
;B[is]
;W[hp]C[Muscadet [?\]: why b 19? can t you play a 18 ?
lemming [-\]: 7d and 3p
donGoku [5k\]: m5
TouyaKoyo [15k\]: j1 good move
Warfreak2 [5d\]: black will play b19, muscadet
Lepenski [1k\]: g4
hassimov [11k\]: xD..only see
EuroGoTV2 [-\]:  live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 
zyklop [1d\]: loop at the info wepo52
BlackLotus [9k\]: life
Muscadet [?\]: b17 the
zyklop [1d\]: look
scurge [5d\]: warfreak then you cut and ko nu?
Muscadet [?\]: and ko
Warfreak2 [5d\]: scurge, i mean black's next local move is b19
docJ [7k\]: who's ahead?
scurge [5d\]: a yes
Warfreak2 [5d\]: when i said b19 is 7 points reverse sente for black, i mean black's move is b19
]
;B[ba]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: i didn't say what white's next move was
munter: m5 is 3 points sente now?
zyklop [1d\]: who had second last move is head
zyklop [1d\]: ahead
]
;W[fh]C[Open2: what about e1 for b?
Javaness [2d\]: is that your reading Warfreak2?
]
;B[ei]
;W[ro]
;B[rp]
;W[sp]C[ChemBoy613 [1d\]: this is pretty big endgame here
gelda [2k\]: big moves for w
]
;B[sq]
;W[so]C[monk316 [1k\]: very close
]
;B[hg]C[Open2: w+46,5
siulongbao [7k\]: h13  for black
]
;W[if]C[kenjiro43 [7k\]: SE?
]
;B[gh]C[BlackLotus [9k\]: logic
]
;W[gg]C[monk316 [1k\]: whoever gets m18 wins
Q161 [13k?\]: your logic is flawed
jersta [16k\]: hi euro :)) would you give me the live broadcasting link pls?
Annunaki [-\]: white +6,5
Konsta [2d\]: jersta: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
]
;B[rq]C[hassimov [11k\]: why b resign not?
hassimov [11k\]: xDD
jersta [16k\]: thx 
zeph [3k\]: why not C19 instead of B19 ?
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: can take c19 whenever
Wizze [1d\]: if c19+
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: white isn't going to play there
Warfreak2 [5d\]: zeph, it's a standard shape
qgo [4k\]: this gote?
Wizze [1d\]: w has the throw in at b19
Warfreak2 [5d\]: if you c19 white can throw in
Juergonaut [4d\]: if b c19 w can throw in at b19
Novalys [2k\]: and C19 white will play b19
TouyaKoyo [15k\]: w+5.5 right now
zeph [3k\]: ah right , thx
Warfreak2 [5d\]: c19 is black's sente anyway
guiguistar [2d\]: n9
TouyaKoyo [15k\]: how long has the game been going on
Draak [1d\]: 4 hours
Porkypine [8k\]: 4 hours
TouyaKoyo [15k\]: k
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: g2
jSd [8k\]: e1
XY0908 [-\]: Any where I can find out the prizes?
Nael: g 2 >>
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no
kenjiro43 [7k\]: How is time, Euro?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: look fullscreen
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: you see the time
Blubbel [8k\]: any prizemoney for winner of tournament?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: a book
BetterDays [8k\]: lol
hassimov [11k\]: a book
hassimov [11k\]: ?
hassimov [11k\]: ajjaja
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Oh, I see, on eurogo
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: joke
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Thanks
Boogeyman [3k\]: maybe two book?
BetterDays [8k\]: oh :P
jersta [16k\]: is the B center moyo alive?
Nael: 2 books
XY0908 [-\]: A book of money?
Sebastian [2k\]: i won a book once
hassimov [11k\]: a hustler?
mcw85 [7k\]: Prize i s date with EuroGo.
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: a few thousend euro
hassimov [11k\]: xD
munter:  and free entry next year?
hassimov [11k\]: xD
EPMAK [1d\]: B +5
engels [?\]: First prize is probably 1000 Euro, plus 1000 Euro for the European champion (best European)
derp [1k\]: seems b still slightly ahead
jersta [16k\]: is the B center moyo alive?
Nael: yes
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: first prize 5000 euro
Zvi [3k\]: i don
jersta [16k\]: thx nael
munter: Henk is helping Alex now, so black wins ;-)
TeeSushi [2d\]: damn close game
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: i don't knowat what moyo he menas
engels [?\]: jersta: Yes, the three white stones around g10 are dead
bartosh [4k\]: why is rob always clutching a stone while thinking? :)
hassimov [11k\]: 5000 euros 
hassimov [11k\]: LOL
Zvi [3k\]: i don't quite see a moyo, but black alive everywhwere
Javaness [2d\]: that is the lucky stone
hassimov [11k\]: I PREFER THE BOOK
jersta [16k\]: thx bar
hassimov [11k\]: xD
Nael: jersta  look f9
Warfreak2 [5d\]: i prefer the date with eurogo :>
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: lol
Warfreak2 [5d\]: he's a cool dude
Q161 [13k?\]: you and me both
XY0908 [-\]: ...
jersta [16k\]: çi see 
jersta [16k\]: an empty surrounded triangle
Javaness [2d\]: wait till Judit finds out
tsAii [?\]: could any1 explain the screen below the chat?
Javaness [2d\]: those are the moves
hassimov [11k\]: b win for timw
TeeSushi [2d\]: i think black wins but its really really hard to tell 
hassimov [11k\]: xD
ZeroCool [3k\]: there is quite interlacing in the stream
tsAii [?\]: i only see black white black etc with triangles or movenr
Javaness [2d\]: if you press the magical black diamond the screen transmogrophies
ZeroCool [3k\]: wouldnt it be possible to add a biliniear deinterlacer?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: transmogrifies?
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: i wish i could trans mogrify
TeeSushi [2d\]: can you zoom the them please?
Jadeite [?\]: lol
TeeSushi [2d\]: the time
Javaness [2d\]: too much magnetic interference with the linear polariser in place ZeroClool
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: it's been a four hour game?
Violence [-\]: Aren't you Chemboy? Just find the right reactants for a transmogrification reaction.
jSd [8k\]: b+15.5
Kukker [6k\]: lol
zyklop [1d\]: w l19 0r g3
Kukker [6k\]: thx
TeeSushi [2d\]: thanks :) plenty of time for both of them 
Wizze [1d\]: nice zoom =)
Javaness [2d\]: *pops Chemboy into the vat*
TeeSushi [2d\]: 30 mins diner and 20 mins rob
qgo [4k\]: thanks for showing time left
Violence [-\]: I think one of them is Potassium Permanganate... and high heat...
Warfreak2 [5d\]: potassium pomegranate?
kuvvetmira [3k\]: KMnO4
Javaness [2d\]: pomegranates are not made from potassium
Kantid [4k\]: i'm never thinking on yose that much. thats why i must be only 4k now ;(
Warfreak2 [5d\]: potassium pomegranates are, javaness
Javaness [2d\]: no they aren't
Javaness [2d\]: they're made from menthos
hassimov [11k\]: monkey jump reduce many points?
Q161 [13k?\]: quite the tautology
Annunaki [-\]: oxidental guys
TeeSushi [2d\]: endgame calculation is damn tough
qgo [4k\]: monkey jump is gote
]
;W[eh]
;B[es]C[jSd [8k\]: e1
sixsix [-\]: monkey jump should never ever be gote
jSd [8k\]: ahah
hassimov [11k\]: ajajaj
hassimov [11k\]: MONKEY JUMP
hassimov [11k\]: ;)
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Yeap
Q161 [13k?\]: axaxa
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: black has to watch liberties
]
;W[ds]C[Javaness [2d\]: now white needs the magic of go
Zvi [3k\]: nice, monkey jump is sente
Zvi [3k\]: e1 d1 f1 e2 g2 c2 something
Boogeyman [3k\]: b+1
LugPaj [2d\]: white has magic of go...so no problem
]
;B[gs]
;W[er]C[Open2: would g1 have worked for w instead of e12?
Zvi [3k\]: oh nvm , missread
Zairex [2k\]: yei diner
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: no need for c2
JeanVidToi [6k\]: m5 ?
hassimov [11k\]: m18 is great
Violence [-\]: M18 or S10ish stuff?
engels [?\]: I think m18
bolzano [4k?\]: n10 sente
Q161 [13k?\]: m18 indubitably
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: m18 s 11 maybe
engels [?\]: Ok, but first non-sente move will undoubtedly be m18. 8 points, that's bigger than anything else on the board methinks
JeanVidToi [6k\]: g4 ?
Sebastian [2k\]: watching the video tells me a go game is hard work!
bolzano [4k?\]: g4 dame
]
;B[lb]C[hassimov [11k\]: yeah m18
hassimov [11k\]: i see the future
hassimov [11k\]: xD
jersta [16k\]: hahah
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: black gets all the big pints
duha: hehe
Porkypine [8k\]: Try seeing into the future on less obvious moves :( 
Porkypine [8k\]: lol
calme [4d?\]: c19 was better
hassimov [11k\]: xD
Wolftone [6k\]: m5 works?
]
;W[mk]
;B[lk]C[ppc [4k\]: w +10
Warfreak2 [5d\]: if c19 then k19 is no longer your sente
Zvi [3k\]: g10 dead
Wizze [1d\]: let s see wether those "big pints" interfere with his next game =)
]
;W[mp]C[Wolftone [6k\]: ahh i see it
leger [1d\]: f1 
hassimov [11k\]: n3?
hassimov [11k\]: xD
Youssev [5d\]: W n15 big
Zvi [3k\]: m3 
]
;B[ja]
;W[ia]
;B[ka]C[hassimov [11k\]: =O
Edelweiss [1k\]: ouch
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: bigger than it looks
leger [1d\]: n3 
Warfreak2 [5d\]: mostly m3 is smaller than it looks
engels [?\]: But n3 is sente for white
Lepenski [1k\]: n3
Vondel [2k\]: has to be n3 right =
Vondel [2k\]: ?
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: fixing up top is pretty big, imagine j18\\
Open2: w+82,5
Edelweiss [1k\]: -_-'
engels [?\]: Yes, that's bigger sente than n3
kenjiro43 [7k\]: SE?
Sebastian [2k\]: looking for bottom kill?
LugPaj [2d\]: n3 bigger
munter: first N3, then H18
engels [?\]: No kill, g10 is captured
yura [5k?\]: Euro, could you give a link to TV please ?
Konsta [2d\]: yura: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
engels [?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
yura [5k?\]: thanks !
hassimov [11k\]: B is a pro player??
hassimov [11k\]: oO
Sebastian [2k\]: n3 threatens to kill left bottom b stones
engels [?\]: Yes. White is not pro, but still very strong.
Lepenski [1k\]: n3
engels [?\]: Yes, you're right, sorry.
meuns [2k\]: n3 sente
]
;W[ib]C[hassimov [11k\]: where play B?
hassimov [11k\]: country
IGoofy [1d\]: coward
Lepenski [1k\]: bn3
engels [?\]: Black is Russian, white is Dutch but lives in Tokyo
calme [4d?\]: m3 should ave been better
meuns [2k\]: n3 biggest move now
meuns [2k\]: oh yes
qgo [4k\]: w G 2 is funny
engels [?\]: Apparently Rob thought J18 bigger than N2
meuns [2k\]: the aji of f10
hassimov [11k\]: but if b is pro, play in a country,,,,
qgo [4k\]: J 18 was neccesary
meuns [2k\]: b is russian
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Euro, how is the time?
Edelweiss [1k\]: maybe now black wins isn't he ?
engels [?\]: He became pro in Korea
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Please
jersta [16k\]: a russian pro?¿
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Yes
jersta [16k\]: that's awesome
kenjiro43 [7k\]: He's pro
hassimov [11k\]: but play in korea?
jersta [16k\]: cool
meuns [2k\]: close game
meuns [2k\]: small advance for b
hassimov [11k\]: in the korean league?
Boogeyman [3k\]: m3 
engels [?\]: No, became pro in Korea, but after a few years returned to Russia, IIRC
hassimov [11k\]: o.o
kiusasori [2d\]: honorific pro no ?
DERM [3k\]: he played in russia
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Only in Korea, Japan or China can become pro
engels [?\]: No, real pro
Javaness [2d\]: Taiwan too
HandA [4k?\]: wow this game still going
Edelweiss [1k\]: Taiwan too
che [-\]: horrific pro?
Javaness [2d\]: he means honourary
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Didn't know about Taiwan
meuns [2k\]: dinerstein is strong no doubt
Porkypine [8k\]: Rob was an insei in Japan, right Engels?
HandA [4k?\]: top 7 observers already asleep
kiusasori [2d\]: thx javaness :)
]
;B[lq]
;W[mq]
;B[mr]
;W[js]C[Javaness [2d\]: yes Rob was insei
engels [?\]: Correct
IGoofy [1d\]: the deal was going home for diploma
hassimov [11k\]: =O...
Porkypine [8k\]: Then he quit being an Insei because he didn't like the stuffy feeling, I think..
Porkypine [8k\]: And now he tutors Go in Japan
Wizze [1d\]: nice throw in
Javaness [2d\]: you said this already Porkypine
engels [?\]: Oh? I thought he was translator (Japanese to English)
Porkypine [8k\]: I know but noone verified it lol
]
;B[ks]C[meuns [2k\]: m5 is a burn now
Draak [1d\]: right engels
]
;W[lo]C[hassimov [11k\]: but, i think if he is pro, then migth play in any pro league
munter: He's a translator, both technical and in court
kiusasori [2d\]: what happen ?
bartosh [4k\]: s12 
Warfreak2 [5d\]: somebody set up us the bomb
Lepenski [1k\]: n3 bic19
HandA [4k?\]: why L1 instead of M5?
Lepenski [1k\]: bc19
Javaness [2d\]: http://www.themagicofgo.com/The_Magic_Of_Go/About_Rob_van_Zeijst.html
engels [?\]: HandA: H1 with huge ko
Wizze [1d\]: if m5 w h1
]
;B[fs]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: because if you don't capture at L1 white can capture at h1
]
;W[gq]
;B[or]C[HandA [4k?\]: but M5 bigger
hassimov [11k\]: thx javaness
Warfreak2 [5d\]: no,
Warfreak2 [5d\]: no it is not
engels [?\]: No, M5 is only 2 or 3 points
duha: how much pts was m5?
gdghgjd [1d\]: 3
engels [?\]: Correction, 3 or 4
munter: black 3 points ehead now?
]
;W[kf]C[LugPaj [2d\]: 4-5
engels [?\]: E10, E9, G10 for black, O10 for white
Wizze [1d\]: y ;>
]
;B[cr]
;W[dr]C[Edelweiss [1k\]: !!!!!
HandA [4k?\]: damn didn't see F9 group
kiusasori [2d\]: me too lol
]
;B[lg]
;W[me]C[TeeSushi [2d\]: white wins i think but its half a point game ^^
]
;B[le]C[LugPaj [2d\]: cannt be
jSd [8k\]: hey novbalyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyys
LugPaj [2d\]: 8 komi
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: g5
Alenchon [6k?\]: nova is in the house?
copyright [2d\]: g6 
jnoiwno: ing rule set?
engels [?\]: jnoiwno: yes
Bobiku [2d\]: g6
jantiff [-\]: gob Robbie !!!
engels [?\]: Or simplified Ing, to be exact
Lepenski [1k\]: bb2
svrcd [?\]: go Alex!
kiusasori [2d\]: and in cases of jigo between the two finalist ?
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Go Chelsea!
kenjiro43 [7k\]: OOoops
TeeSushi [2d\]: there is no jigo
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no jigo possible
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Sorry
]
;W[fp]C[Javaness [2d\]: 7.5 komi
kiusasori [2d\]: ha ok
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 8
kiusasori [2d\]: thx
kiusasori [2d\]: 7.5 or 8 ?
guiguistar [2d\]: whats the pint in simplfying rules that the main partucularity is to be complicated?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 8
ZeroCool [3k\]: in case of jigo w wins
Prodigious [5d?\]: 8, but black wins ties
guiguistar [2d\]: point*
jersta [16k\]: can W q14 group get life inside that thickness?
ZeroCool [3k\]: black ah yes
engels [?\]: The Ing ko rules are too complex.
]
;B[fo]C[TeeSushi [2d\]: basically its the same as 7.5 komi
Q161 [13k?\]: wow thats dumb
engels [?\]: Even Robert Jasiek is not 100% sure he knows them
Bobiku [2d\]: all this black group in ur corner is dead o_O
docJ [7k\]: isn't b ahead?
Lepenski [1k\]: g5
Kuzuryusen [-\]: so 8,5 translate "8 whit ewins jigo" ?
Alenchon [6k?\]: ur B is alive, no?
Cassis0 [5d\]: e8
ThiGar [8k\]: Ing rules.
Wizze [1d\]: SE can kill everything =)
Tristero [2d\]: half pointer?
TeeSushi [2d\]: g5 s12 both big points now
ufhz824r [5k\]: does anybody have a mogobot instance running?
TeeSushi [2d\]: i think half pointer game
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Yeap, SE danferous
sixsix [-\]: half pointer indeed
jnoiwno: e8 f7?
kenjiro43 [7k\]: dangerous
kiusasori [2d\]: e8 f7 e9 and w too many liberties
]
;W[go]C[kiusasori [2d\]: e8 e9 f7 ?
Porkypine [8k\]: Was that a cellphone.. lol
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yes
Bobiku [2d\]: yup
qgo [4k\]: did I hear strings?
LugPaj [2d\]: that guy was fast
]
;B[no]C[leger [1d\]: f7 works i think
hassimov [11k\]: ajajajaa....see the people
hassimov [11k\]: xD
meuns [2k\]: g2 ?
TeeSushi [2d\]: f7 e8 g7 e7 
copyright [2d\]: g6 
TeeSushi [2d\]: 2 pts sente
]
;W[gn]C[zeph [3k\]: O10 first ?
]
;B[fm]
;W[mj]
;B[ek]C[TeeSushi [2d\]: s11 
]
;W[op]C[engels [?\]: On the screen, Rob seems to be doubting
zeph [3k\]:  ?
hassimov [11k\]: ????
hassimov [11k\]: missclick?
steng: ???
hassimov [11k\]: xDD
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: o5
Youssev [5d\]: yes i also prefered S11
engels [?\]: No, no misclick
]
;B[nn]
;W[nm]C[zeph [3k\]: P4 looks so weird
hassimov [11k\]: i see the future
hassimov [11k\]: saw the missclick (H)
sdffsdf: i knew you would say that
]
;B[nd]
;W[ne]C[noned [2d\]: w+2?
hassimov [11k\]: xD
noned [2d\]: no b :)
Yippie [2d\]: or maybe you created the future
LugPaj [2d\]: b+1
meuns [2k\]: s10 ?
hassimov [11k\]: maybe
hassimov [11k\]: xDD
TeeSushi [2d\]: i say w+1
sdffsdf: s10 big?
Cassis0 [5d\]: p4 very bad
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: SE dont count the komi
meuns [2k\]: s11
derp [1k\]: very close
docJ [7k\]: its close
sacrifice1 [12k\]: B + 2
Yowazou [3d\]: w+o.5
munter: How much time left? (Rob plays fast now)
hassimov [11k\]: s11
hassimov [11k\]: noe
Porkypine [8k\]: w+6 -_-
meuns [2k\]: komi = 8 and ing rules
meuns [2k\]: don't use se
copyright [2d\]: w+ 5
TeeSushi [2d\]: w+1
sacrifice1 [12k\]: b + 2
Q161 [13k?\]: b + 1
Javaness [2d\]: g+7
meuns [2k\]: b-1
sacrifice1 [12k\]: b + 2
munter: thx
Boogeyman [3k\]: b
che [-\]: uberclose
Violence [-\]: this is ridiculously close...
Sebastian [2k\]: hm time will show who wins..
zeph [3k\]: b-1.5
hassimov [11k\]: b+ 1,5
sacrifice1 [12k\]: b + 1.5
Yippie [2d\]: people
pel [2k?\]: 9 06 ??
jantiff [-\]: grrrr
]
;B[rj]C[Kashuuu [4k?\]: just stop guessing
]
;W[rk]C[HandA [4k?\]: KGS says Chinese rules with 7.5 komi
gdghgjd [1d\]: 1+1=3
Yippie [2d\]: if komi is even how can someone win with 0.5?
TeeSushi [2d\]: is it like normal ing rules where you have to pay for byo-yomi?
meuns [2k\]: s12 
noned [2d\]: komi 8
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no
]
;B[ri]C[papamisha [2d\]: what komi?
hassimov [11k\]: Oo
jnoiwno: ppl excelled at using se
HandA [4k?\]: so komi is?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 8
Draak [1d\]: pfff
meuns [2k\]: se can't count using chinese rules
Porkypine [8k\]: yay two people of my club just walked in
fractic [1k\]: SE can't count period
]
;W[pi]C[che [-\]: If u wanna use SE: view offline --->change rules from chinese to japanese ---> apply SE
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: hmm
fractic [1k\]: but difference between japanese and chinese rules is at most one point
fractic [1k\]: unless sekis
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: rob tricked me
meuns [2k\]: ^^
Javaness [2d\]: sneaky rob
Lepenski [1k\]: a313
Lepenski [1k\]: s13
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: p6 first
che [-\]: t12 
sdffsdf: P6
Yowazou [3d\]: c19, p6 sente
Q161 [13k?\]: jeez these guys need to hurry up
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: take those first
sacrifice1 [12k\]: S13
engels [?\]: Rob is a great trickster
Q161 [13k?\]: its almost 9am and i need to sleep
sacrifice1 [12k\]: S13
hassimov [11k\]: 9am
hassimov [11k\]: =O
Konsta [2d\]: Chem, but if black plays S13, T13 and ko, P6 is a free threat
hassimov [11k\]: here too
hassimov [11k\]: xD
tsAii [?\]: whats with the bottom screen going down
Q161 [13k?\]: :)
Kantid [4k\]: we need 2 cameras: one to translate timer constantly
hassimov [11k\]: ahaha
hassimov [11k\]: xD
Warfreak2 [5d\]: why would black play s13 t13 ko
Konsta [2d\]: Sport
Violence [-\]: Black can win without this ko
Arhiman [3k\]: b+1.5
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: p6 
derp [1k\]: w+1 is my final count
sacrifice1 [12k\]: S133333333333333333333
sixsix [-\]: I count b by a couple
Violence [-\]: I think if black plays P6, then A4, black will win by 1.5
Bobiku [2d\]: nothing
meuns [2k\]: w+0.5 ?
Highwayman [1d\]: b+1 is my final count
Jadeite [?\]: sacrifice1, you don't need to say it 3 times
Yowazou [3d\]: w +w = b
]
;B[ca]C[LugPaj [2d\]: how can "white and white" be black
Edelweiss [1k\]: oh
tsAii [?\]: why is the bottom screen going down?
Lasher [8k\]: who won?
HandA [4k?\]: oh Rob is old
che [-\]: old means loosong?
TeeSushi [2d\]: they shall hurry up 
Mocramis [4k\]: i have w+1
Yowazou [3d\]: slow like a turtle
Open2: normally the move tree (lower screen) is going down if there is a variation
Highwayman [1d\]: c19 gote ?
sacrifice1 [12k\]: S13
TeeSushi [2d\]: my count is changing every 5 secs ... i want the result xD
]
;W[da]C[tsAii [?\]: what kind of variation?
Sebastian [2k\]: a5?
sacrifice1 [12k\]: S13
joasjo01 [9k\]: spectator has missclicked
tsAii [?\]: oh ok
tsAii [?\]: thanks
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: p6
Open2: here it is going down because the main variation tree (upper line) was created by a missclick
sacrifice1 [12k\]: S13 / final hope 
Violence [-\]: S13 not necessary
HandA [4k?\]: how old is Rob?
Violence [-\]: according to my count,  at least
tsAii [?\]: both say 223
sacrifice1 [12k\]: S13
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: not as big as you think
]
;B[rg]
;W[sg]
;B[rh]C[tsAii [?\]: oh thats move nr
engels [?\]: Some results from other boards: 9 Jatsenko beats Audouard, 7 Zhang beats Bogatskyi, 4 Oh beats Debarre, 16 Noguchi beats Brouwer, 14 Pomstra beats Kyang Kwang Soo
sacrifice1 [12k\]: hee
Violence [-\]: ah, ok, he didn't start the ko
Mocramis [4k\]: ho!
sacrifice1 [12k\]: he play S13
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: B+4.5
Violence [-\]: yeah, my bad
Violence [-\]: I thought he'd start the ko
Violence [-\]: but he just takes 2 pt
Mocramis [4k\]: now, i have w+0
]
;W[oq]C[meuns [2k\]: too close
gdghgjd [1d\]: thank you engels
HandA [4k?\]: how can B+4.5 if komi is 8
]
;B[pp]
;W[oo]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: B+4
meuns [2k\]: t12 
Yowazou [3d\]: w +0.5 for sure
]
;B[sh]
;W[sf]
;B[se]C[Violence [-\]: Wait, is that official result, Eurogo?
meuns [2k\]: b wins now
]
;W[qf]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no
ufhz824r [5k\]: 0.5 is impossible at even komi?
Violence [-\]: ok
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: my guess
Q161 [13k?\]: lol
Kayres [16k\]: white looks better
meuns [2k\]: t9 !
Lepenski [1k\]: two points make is sente
mccrusty [2k\]: my count agrees with Euros
sacrifice1 [12k\]: T10\\
Naurul [8k\]: p6
uguryldz [8k\]: a4?
meuns [2k\]: b wins
Mocramis [4k\]: b+1 non ?
meuns [2k\]: b+2
sacrifice1 [12k\]: b+ 1.5
Asaliuru [22k\]: kgs says W + 80,5
Youssev [5d\]: I counted b+ 0,5
denizen [2k\]: b= 73  w  =64+8 komi =72 
minimelcer [3d\]: lol
sacrifice1 [12k\]: =))
Kayres [16k\]: yes right xD
docJ [7k\]: b by 1.314159
Mocramis [4k\]: XD
dejohn [?\]: b +3
Arhiman [3k\]: b+2
HandA [4k?\]: B+pi
sacrifice1 [12k\]: b + 1.5
Kuros [8k\]: it's w+80.5 atm
meuns [2k\]: B+e
Kayres [16k\]: hahaha pi
Violence [-\]: I'm going to guess... B+2
hassimov [11k\]: xD
Nael: it is not a guessing game
Kayres [16k\]: white win
sacrifice1 [12k\]: b + 1.5
Arhiman [3k\]: b+e seems better, yes
Edelweiss [1k\]: yeah w+80, B thinks he can take back 80 points in the end of yose cause he is pro
kenjiro43 [7k\]: SE very dangerous
antonk [4k\]: jigo
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Changing th go
kenjiro43 [7k\]: as we see it
Yowazou [3d\]: w +0.5 by final counts
kenjiro43 [7k\]: :)
Arhiman [3k\]: jigo d'agneau...
ufhz824r [5k\]: .5 win is impossible if komi is 8
Kuros [8k\]: :\]
Munters: If it's +80, whey won't play on
TeeSushi [2d\]: black wins for sure
sacrifice1 [12k\]: b + 1.5 
ufhz824r [5k\]: or am i wrong?
meuns [2k\]: a4 a3 a5 t10
Violence [-\]: Cmon B+2.
sacrifice1 [12k\]: b + 1.5 100%
Porkypine [8k\]: Mind you black still owes a couple of moves in places
Warfreak2 [5d\]: go violence
Kashuuu [4k?\]: learn the rules atleast before counting
noned [2d\]: komi 8.. pls :)
Warfreak2 [5d\]: you can do it
AhSayuni [4d\]: I recommend viewing offline, finishing the endgame and use score tool
meuns [2k\]: 12k can't count...
Tristero [2d\]: what is b waiting for? a4!
Open2: black looks satisfied and white looks depressed
]
;B[oi]
;W[on]C[Violence [-\]: a4 is just miai, Tristero
]
;B[nr]C[Yowazou [3d\]: yes we can
]
;W[md]C[sdffsdf: w needs to fill C4
]
;B[mc]C[sacrifice1 [12k\]: oh men
meuns [2k\]: t10 
Violence [-\]: T10 and A4 are miai
tsAii [?\]: what is the difference in d and p??
HandA [4k?\]: B can't lose
Warfreak2 [5d\]: w does not need to gill c4
Javaness [2d\]: A5
]
;W[ao]C[Tristero [2d\]: but 2 points
Jocky [3d\]: white  win
]
;B[an]C[Jocky [3d\]: :D
]
;W[ap]C[Biovizir [4k\]: b +1
antonk [4k\]: b1,5
Violence [-\]: T9
mattewoo [2d?\]: wtf
meuns [2k\]: b+2
]
;B[sk]C[sacrifice1 [12k\]: T10
]
;W[sl]C[meuns [2k\]: always
]
;B[sj]C[Javaness [2d\]: language
Violence [-\]: it's miai
jSd [8k\]: ko for game
antonk [4k\]: 2,5
Edelweiss [1k\]: B wins
meuns [2k\]: no 0.5
meuns [2k\]: ing rules
meuns [2k\]: xD
TeeSushi [2d\]: b wins no ko
sacrifice1 [12k\]: B wins
meuns [2k\]: komi 8
improf9d [-\]: 2.5
AhSayuni [4d\]: dame counts?
sdffsdf: disagree, w needs C4, since b C4 is atari later
mattewoo [2d?\]: ma yagre hona be7akq el sama2
mattewoo [2d?\]: ??
Javaness [2d\]: yes white will pass instead of filling the ko
]
;W[pj]C[Tristero [2d\]: no, it's not miai
Cassis0 [5d\]: if b wins its thanks to w disastrous yose 
antonk [4k\]: b wins
Edelweiss [1k\]: W Q10
Edelweiss [1k\]: th end
]
;B[ej]C[sacrifice1 [12k\]: b wins
sdffsdf: oh no, nvm
]
;W[mf]C[meuns [2k\]: !
sdffsdf: mistake of mine
meuns [2k\]: lol
]
;B[hs]C[Jocky [3d\]: white wins
]
;W[jn]C[Violence [-\]: now B+1
]
;B[js]
;W[fr]
;B[gm]
;W[gr]C[tabla1 [1d\]: BTW - Rob is born 24.12.61 ... for all who've been asking over the past few hours  :-)
sacrifice1 [12k\]: B2
sacrifice1 [12k\]: B2
]
;B[]
;W[]
;B[]C[Jocky [3d\]: w win
Jocky [3d\]: :D
mattewoo [2d?\]: men ent??
buggler [1k\]: b2 is nothing
duha: marry christnas Rob
Violence [-\]: B2 isn't a point
HandA [4k?\]: 48 yo
sacrifice1 [12k\]: =))
qgo [4k\]: please show complete counting
Violence [-\]: B+1, I think
jSd [8k\]: pro 12k
Warfreak2 [5d\]: b+1 yes
Yowazou [3d\]: congratulation, Rob
mattewoo [2d?\]: laa ya zlame
Munters: B2 is point for white
meuns [2k\]: t11 gives the win to b
HandA [4k?\]: B+ 
HandA [4k?\]: GG
Javaness [2d\]: use the score tool?
mattewoo [2d?\]: gg wp
HandA [4k?\]: GO ALEX
engels [?\]: board 1: Jun beats Kim,10 Chang b. Desveaux, 12 Janssen b. Manojlovic, 15 D. Mitic b. Simara
zyklop [1d\]: ?
jantiff [-\]: graouuuuuui wanted w to win !!
antonk [4k\]: 7,5
Arhiman [3k\]: b+2
meuns [2k\]: 8
Youssev [5d\]: who wins ?
go1d [4d\]: just wait
tsAii [?\]: live link plz?
meuns [2k\]: eurogotv ?
Nael: B+1
EuroGoTV2 [-\]:  live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 
Jocky [3d\]: w win
kenjiro43 [7k\]: Good game Rob
tsAii [?\]: thx
mattewoo [2d?\]: wp
engels [?\]: board 5 Kim b. Groenen
Sebastian [2k\]: did anyone count the stones before the game??
zyklop [1d\]: euorogo, who won?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: amazing how, even after the game is finished, the dan kibbitzers still disagree on the result
che [-\]: b+1
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: B+1
sacrifice1 [12k\]: yeah
zyklop [1d\]: thx
engels [?\]: correction: board 3
moosh [1d\]: :\]
meuns [2k\]: arg
sacrifice1 [12k\]: b + 1.5
Nael: 1
antonk [4k\]: 1,5 B is the right result
minimelcer [3d\]: yes
meuns [2k\]: dinerstein is lucky
Yowazou [3d\]: w wins
Open2: zoom board
sacrifice1 [12k\]: just like I said
TeeSushi [2d\]: b+1
Nael: no
sacrifice1 [12k\]: b + .5
TeeSushi [2d\]: 8 komi
meuns [2k\]: ING RULES
Kanin [-\]: 1 = 0.5
Nael: just B+1
sacrifice1 [12k\]: b + 1.5
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: i don't understand what that meant...
sacrifice1 [12k\]: just like I said
Q161 [13k?\]: i called it :)
TeeSushi [2d\]: there is no 0.5 komi
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no B+.5
ChemBoy613 [1d\]: never counted that way
docJ [7k\]: b by .31415926535
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: or B+1
sacrifice1 [12k\]: B + 1.5
meuns [2k\]: very lucky b
sacrifice1 [12k\]: ph yeah
TeeSushi [2d\]: give them a great thanks for this close game ^^
Vondel [2k\]: seems w lost the game in yose ?
Vondel [2k\]: the right side ?
TeeSushi [2d\]: and thanks for broadcasting :)
Highwayman [1d\]: it's draw, but black wins with ing rules
method [-\]: reveal urself one more time hehe
qgo [4k\]: thanks EuroGO
jersta [16k\]: thx euro :))
Novalys [2k\]: W not necessarily lost in yose
gdghgjd [1d\]: will there be broadcasting tomorrow?
Novalys [2k\]: Maybe before
sacrifice1 [12k\]: thx Euro ;))
LugPaj [2d\]: poor w
murkin: thx
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yes, black got all the big yose points in sente
Kashuuu [4k?\]: I wonder if B19 was the losing move for white
Yowazou [3d\]: w wins, ritht?
Novalys [2k\]: b wins
Javaness [2d\]: black won
method [-\]: can u say good job to rob ?
method [-\]: from audience ?
HandA [4k?\]: RESULT B+1
Javaness [2d\]: nice loss rob?
Porkypine [8k\]: Rob just said he lost by half a point
Munters: Rob just said: half a point
Porkypine [8k\]: Weird
Zebrabw: rob is not a pro
wintogo [7d\]: who won?
ufhz824r [5k\]: it must be a whole point
Porkypine [8k\]: Hi rob! ^_^
Jadeite [?\]: B+1
ufhz824r [5k\]: not half a point
sacrifice1 [12k\]: b + 1
Konsta [2d\]: What are they talking about?
wintogo [7d\]: oh, i see
Yowazou [3d\]: poor Rob
Shibui [?\]: He is very disappointed
Munters: Rob says H2 was a stragne move.
sacrifice1 [12k\]: the third board still play
Munters: He's sick now
docJ [7k\]: if its a tie w wins right?
Q161 [13k?\]: no b
docJ [7k\]: oh
Munters: with ING rules, black wins
docJ [7k\]: ok
Q161 [13k?\]: because komi is 8
Q161 [13k?\]: not 7.5
Kaos [3k\]: that's just the same...
docJ [7k\]: so its really like 7.5
Q161 [13k?\]: yep
Jadeite [?\]: Thanks Harry 
docJ [7k\]: got it--thx
Munters: Because of the counting by placing the stones on the goban, the komi is 8
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yw see u all tomorrow
Munters: thx Harry
Q161 [13k?\]: thanks 
Kuros [8k\]: you type slow
jamt [?\]: thanks for relaying eurogotv =)
alfuij: tomorrow is weekend tournament!
HandA [4k?\]: Good game bye all
kumbhaka [3d\]: who won?
Munters: Alex (black) won by 0,5
kumbhaka [3d\]: thx
Kaos [3k\]: isn't it 1.5?
andreiraz [5k\]: 0.5+b
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