(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[9000]OT[1x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Go Congress 2009 round 6 board 6]PW[Thomas Debarre]PB[Igor Nemlij]WR[5d]BR[5d]DT[2009-08-03]EV[main]RO[6]PC[Groningen, Netherlands]WT[FR]BT[RU]US[kamyszyn]C[Chilltime [2k\]: yes! thomas
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: pairing of 6th round on http://www.egc2009.nl/?q=node/1490
InsanePat [-\]: so the boards showned are 1, 2, 3 and... 6 ? 
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: yes ;)
xDragon [15k\]: is this coverage coming up soon?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: sure
pafy [3k\]: good morning (:
xDragon [15k\]: this match going to be on stream? i see you have two games up
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: I'm doing 2 boards at a time so I prefer slower game on my additional board
pafy [3k\]: yes
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: on board 4 there are 2 asian players
xDragon [15k\]: which one are u gonna stream?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Igor is missing at the mment
]
;B[dp]
;W[pd]
;B[dc]
;W[pq]
;B[nc]C[xDragon [15k\]: if stream comes up lemme kno
]
;W[qf]
;B[jd]
;W[cf]
;B[cd]
;W[ci]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no stream will come up on any other board than 1 today
]
;B[po]
;W[qo]
;B[qn]
;W[qp]
;B[pn]
;W[nq]
;B[qj]
;W[pb]
;B[ne]
;W[cn]
;B[dh]C[globax [4d\]: w is low
globax [4d\]: b wants to control the center
Pingu007 [3d\]: go twix go!
InsanePat [-\]: mouarf, twix...
ftroiset [2d\]: d11
]
;W[ch]
;B[df]C[globax [4d\]: f4
ftroiset [2d\]: d15 first
]
;W[dg]
;B[eg]
;W[cg]
;B[ef]
;W[fq]C[AyoLogie: where does this tournmanet take place ?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: groningen, netherlands
AyoLogie: ok thanks
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: you forgot to set the place in the game info
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: done
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: good ;)
globax [4d\]: b will e5 to the center again
]
;B[fp]
;W[gp]
;B[fo]C[Hades [3d\]: hi eurogotv, why no match of Kim Eunkuk - Zhang Yanqi here?
InsanePat [-\]: "EuroGoTV3 [-\]: I'm doing 2 boards at a time so I prefer slower game on my additional board" maybe
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: ;)
Hades [3d\]: :D
]
;W[dq]
;B[eq]
;W[er]
;B[ep]
;W[gr]
;B[cq]
;W[dr]
;B[go]C[Brian90 [12k\]: b's shape is weird
]
;W[hp]C[Brian90 [12k\]: doesn't exactly leave me with the impression that b has left the corner on an even footing
Brian90 [12k\]: will be intereting to watch the center though
pomoho [11k\]: white will win
freedum: c8? B
BlackSmurf [2k\]: does anyone know if the thomas debarre vs catalin game is available somewhere?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: it's not available
Minske [-\]: http://strasbourg.jeudego.org/actualite.htm
Minske [-\]: "Thomas bat Catalin"
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: or do you mean another game
BlackSmurf [2k\]: merci !!! ^^
Minske [-\]: De rien ^^ 
]
;B[ej]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: time - white 1:55, black 1:35
GoIsBoring [1d\]: w will win
]
;W[ei]
;B[di]C[GoIsBoring [1d\]: d10 was more interesting variation
]
;W[dj]
;B[eh]
;W[ek]
;B[fi]C[Chilltime [2k\]: hm
]
;W[dl]C[GoIsBoring [1d\]: q13 
KlerChazal [-\]: someone has the link to the wall for the week end tournament?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: check my info
KlerChazal [-\]: thx
tupinoz [5k\]: how abouth table 5
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: still playing
tupinoz [5k\]: thx
Pinguschaf [5d\]: this was good for white
]
;B[co]C[massilia [1d\]: invade now?
ftroiset [2d\]: norb5mal is d6, gthen hane at 
ftroiset [2d\]: normal move is D6, hten hane at g5
ftroiset [2d\]: (after b c3
]
;W[dn]
;B[ho]
;W[io]
;B[in]
;W[jn]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Shiu Chang-Li  - Mitic Dusan  1-0 (board 5)
tupinoz [5k\]: thx
jason1998 [8k\]: hello
jason1998 [8k\]: hello
]
;B[jm]
;W[im]
;B[hn]
;W[jo]
;B[jl]
;W[gj]
;B[fj]C[ftroiset [2d\]: G8
kribi [2d\]: if g8, b h8 good move ...
]
;W[gl]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: time - white 1:33, black 1:03
Icare [1d\]: w is leading 
Icare [1d\]: my count: 46pt for b and +10 for w without komi
massilia [1d\]: w so nervous on web tv xD
GoIsBoring [1d\]: h8 
]
;B[hl]
;W[gk]C[GoIsBoring [1d\]: n5 
ftroiset [2d\]: n4 is better, but perhaps j11 first
veteran [1d\]: j11 looks good
]
;B[ii]
;W[ik]
;B[il]
;W[gm]
;B[hm]C[AurelienC [3d\]: m17 ?
superdupon [2d\]: time for k18
superdupon [2d\]: :)
globax [4d\]: maybe l14 is enough for w
ftroiset [2d\]: l14 looks too deep
superdupon [2d\]: yes to me too
superdupon [2d\]: but why not
ftroiset [2d\]: better start at P10 if you want L14
]
;W[lc]C[superdupon [2d\]: :-o
superdupon [2d\]: deeeeeeep
ftroiset [2d\]: tçis is much more logical
superdupon [2d\]: but probably a lot better than k18
]
;B[md]
;W[jc]C[superdupon [2d\]: it's going to be fun :D!!!!
ftroiset [2d\]: if w dont die the game will get very hard for b
Icare [1d\]: W can't make ko with l16 and l18, no threat.
AurelienC [3d\]: b played n16 without reading k17 '_'
GoIsBoring [1d\]: b is sinking
Icare [1d\]: i bet on a simple j17
GoIsBoring [1d\]: j17 isnt simple
Icare [1d\]: ok so i bet on whatever you want j17
GoIsBoring [1d\]: want to see k18 move
]
;B[ic]C[Icare [1d\]: ok now to me l16 is not playable
GoIsBoring [1d\]: j18 
]
;W[kd]C[Icare [1d\]: :)
GoIsBoring [1d\]: T_T
]
;B[jb]C[GoIsBoring [1d\]: ko
Icare [1d\]: this is an impossible ko, where are w threat ? 
maitrepo [2k\]: R8 ?
Icare [1d\]: R8 as a threat ?
GoIsBoring [1d\]: r8 isnt fatal to ignor it
maitrepo [2k\]: hum
Icare [1d\]: high dan opinion ?
]
;W[kb]C[Icare [1d\]: ok thomas let's see :)
]
;B[kc]C[Normann [2k\]: go go Igor !
takagawa13 [3k\]: s8
]
;W[qh]C[takagawa13 [3k\]: r8
Icare [1d\]: i bet on black ignoring any threat
AurelienC [3d\]: g7 so a wasted move
Matrok [7k?\]: white wants a semeai with the group around O16 ?
]
;B[pg]
;W[ph]
;B[oh]
;W[pi]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: time - white 1:21, black 0:21
Matrok [7k?\]: ugly shape...
bolb [-\]: guzumi !
]
;B[mo]
;W[jc]
;B[og]
;W[ri]
;B[kc]
;W[oi]C[ben0 [5d\]: l15
]
;B[ni]
;W[jc]
;B[pe]
;W[qe]
;B[kc]
;W[nj]
;B[mj]
;W[jc]
;B[cj]
;W[dk]
;B[kc]
;W[mi]
;B[nh]
;W[jc]
;B[op]
;W[oq]
;B[kc]
;W[mk]
;B[lj]C[jmh2 [2k\]: time ? please :-) thx
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: white 1:05, black 0:13
]
;W[jc]C[jmh2 [2k\]: thx
]
;B[ib]
;W[je]
;B[id]C[Youssev [5d\]: p9
superdupon [2d\]: yes he needs to weaken M10
]
;W[ok]C[oneway [5d\]: m4
]
;B[jj]C[GiTS [10k\]: mb l4 then m3
globax [4d\]: io18 firts ?
]
;W[lk]
;B[kk]C[Chilltime [2k\]: r6 is dead?
superdupon [2d\]: looks dead to me
]
;W[mm]
;B[nl]C[Chilltime [2k\]: hm seems like b isnt so sure
]
;W[nk]C[Chilltime [2k\]: m7? _Ü
superdupon [2d\]: then what after m6
superdupon [2d\]: ?
globax [4d\]: o7 first
Chilltime [2k\]: no i meant instead of o0 m7
Chilltime [2k\]: iwasnt sure whether thats bett than just blocking
Chilltime [2k\]: o9
superdupon [2d\]: no there is a pb if b cut
oneway [5d\]: r8
Chilltime [2k\]: ok
Chilltime [2k\]: ah i see
Chilltime [2k\]: then
Chilltime [2k\]: maybe m6 would have been better
allonzo [6k\]: q8?
Chilltime [2k\]: and let yourself cut because ur still connected to the uther group
]
;B[nm]C[globax [4d\]: :)
Youssev [5d\]: not easy to kill
Chilltime [2k\]: if b lives in there its over for w
superdupon [2d\]: not easy to live either ;)
Arhiman [3k\]: n6 ?
sutex [4k\]: m7?
allonzo [6k\]: p7?
oneway [5d\]: r8
lenchen16 [-\]: chilltimmmmee :3
Matrok [7k?\]: n19 ?
]
;W[nb]
;B[mb]
;W[oc]
;B[mc]C[Arhiman [3k\]: wasn't n19 ko ???
superdupon [2d\]: no
oneway [5d\]: black top near 80
oneway [5d\]: russia go
]
;W[mn]C[Arhiman [3k\]: héh
Arhiman [3k\]: this move is french touch !
superdupon [2d\]: ^^
sutex [4k\]: ncie
oneway [5d\]: and next russiin
tupinoz [5k\]: is igor russians
Miller [5k\]: yes
oneway [5d\]: the best country RUSSIA
Youssev [5d\]: how old is Black ?
yanopel [3d\]: ...
cancerwa [5d\]: 22-23
Miller [5k\]: he is about 21
oneway [5d\]: near20
tupinoz [5k\]: of course
pandu [8k\]: 21k  ^^
oneway [5d\]: 21
oneway [5d\]: ))
Youssev [5d\]: oneway : he best country RUSSIA : better than SSSR ?? 
Arhiman [3k\]: he is 5d, age isn't important :)
oneway [5d\]: no
oneway [5d\]: NO
pandu [8k\]: allez la gaule !!!
bolbi [-\]: please, no country troll
]
;B[ql]C[oneway [5d\]: i think manch france-russia 3-7
Youssev [5d\]: I knew the country toll, the country troll is a new concept..
hztju: the best country RUSSIA, which Sport?
oneway [5d\]: *T
pandu [8k\]: ils ont triché alors ^^
tupinoz [5k\]: waterpollo
oneway [5d\]: ))
hztju: nono
bolbi [-\]: focus on the game please
oneway [5d\]: football))
oneway [5d\]: ok
tupinoz [5k\]: ok sorry
Arhiman [3k\]: no country troll please, pas de chauvinisme svp
hztju: waterpolo is the Hungary's game
Chilltime [2k\]: poor thomas
superdupon [2d\]: i never saw a 5d ban ^^
Chilltime [2k\]: probably very nervous now
oneway [5d\]: igor is not top russian player
Mot [3k\]: even if b live here, w can still win no ?
superdupon [2d\]: i won't be at ease if I were black too
Arhiman [3k\]: s9 ?
superdupon [2d\]: yes mot
pandu [8k\]: t8
superdupon [2d\]: it would be very close
Miller [5k\]: igor is number 15 on the Russian rate list
Youssev [5d\]: well , how to kill this black poor looking group ?? 
tupinoz [5k\]: serbians game
superdupon [2d\]: maybe a little bit in white's favour
oneway [5d\]: нуы 15
Youssev [5d\]: S5
globax [4d\]: o6 enables w q7 later
Youssev [5d\]: or S9 ?
globax [4d\]: ans secure botom
superdupon [2d\]: ablack's favor sorry
oneway [5d\]: yesn 15
Arhiman [3k\]: s9 seems french touch again
]
;W[nn]
;B[rj]C[Miller [5k\]: oneway, я ж сказал что он 15-ый, зачем подтверждать? ) 
superdupon [2d\]: taking the adji
Youssev [5d\]: s5 now
pandu [8k\]: pfffff trop tard pour s9
globax [4d\]: s5 should kill
Avalon [3d\]: хз-хз :)
Youssev [5d\]: and S5 big
allonzo [6k\]: alive :-) let's see how much damage it shall do
Arhiman [3k\]: s13 will be big yose now
]
;W[ro]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: black in BY
globax [4d\]: thx eurogotv3
oneway [5d\]: ))
Miller [5k\]: 1 minute per move? 
superdupon [2d\]: how are looking the players Eurogotv?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: yes 1 min
]
;B[rn]C[Chilltime [2k\]: t8?
superdupon [2d\]: yes
Icare [1d\]: b dead 
Youssev [5d\]: q9
globax [4d\]: i think also q9
pandu [8k\]: o5
]
;W[pk]C[Youssev [5d\]: not so clear
]
;B[qk]C[Nemerid [-\]: not easy to read all, is could be dangerous to kill
Arhiman [3k\]: why o5 when you can kill, pandu
globax [4d\]: s8?
Matrok [7k?\]: tuer c'est mal...
Orc [4d\]: Q7
ftroiset [2d\]: q7 kills
Youssev [5d\]: s8 not ok
oneway [5d\]: q7
globax [4d\]: yes, q7
Arhiman [3k\]: stop thinking that, matrok and you'll get closer to dan :)
Chilltime [2k\]: q7 :-)
ftroiset [2d\]: anyway, thomas will not miss q7
Matrok [7k?\]: well Arhiman, Fan Hui who is a pro living in France always says it... but I have to admit that sometime killing is good ;-)
Youssev [5d\]: yes Q7 and cul sec
]
;W[pm]C[oneway [5d\]: shikshin won???
cancerwa [5d\]: no
ftroiset [2d\]: yeeess
Arhiman [3k\]: I never kill and agree with Fan Hui, and I'm not dan
]
;B[lp]C[oneway [5d\]: net?
ftroiset [2d\]: killing is bad, but at times you have no choice
Youssev [5d\]: interesting b move
cancerwa [5d\]: илья проигарл
oneway [5d\]: oooo
pandu [8k\]: voilà o5 aurait protégé de ça
oneway [5d\]: mda
Icare [1d\]: n3
Arhiman [3k\]: o5 would have let black live
Youssev [5d\]: P6
Nemerid [-\]: oui là il est obligé de tout tuer
Orc [4d\]: N3
Nemerid [-\]: mais faut pas se louper
Youssev [5d\]: P6 only move :)
oneway [5d\]: ppc
]
;W[np]
;B[no]
;W[on]C[svrcd [?\]: похоже, илья зря играл в турнире выходного дня
]
;B[oo]C[Orc [4d\]: well, I think white can ignore one move here, blk still dead
Pingu007 [3d\]: why not directly p5?
Icare [1d\]: damezumari is good...
ben0 [5d\]: p5 p6
oneway [5d\]: не ожидал от ильи такого слабого выступления
Arhiman [3k\]: oh, I have just understood m4...
Orc [4d\]: there is no space for another eye or connect ...
]
;W[kq]C[Youssev [5d\]: L3 severe ....
Glorrandir [2d\]: pingu, on reconnait là ton style :)
jerbio [1d?\]: go toto
Arhiman [3k\]: russian resign now
telchar [1d\]: dis donc je m'en vais un quart d'heure et ça passe en mode boucherie
superdupon [2d\]: ^^ jerbio
]
;B[ln]C[jerbio [1d?\]: <3
TeeSushi [3d\]: m7 l6 l5 
]
;W[lm]C[Pingu007 [3d\]: bah quoi? :)
superdupon [2d\]: resign time
]
;B[qd]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: s16 
Youssev [5d\]: I agree, a little resign better than a big humiliation...
yanopel [3d\]: timesuji ?
Nemerid [-\]: c'est pénible ces joueurs qui veulent pas perdre
]
;W[rd]
;B[qc]C[yanopel [3d\]: Nemerid [-\]: c'est pénible ces joueurs qui veulent pas perdre
yanopel [3d\]: xD
Arhiman [3k\]: resign is something you choose, not something people tell you to do
Orc [4d\]: Q18...
Orc [4d\]: there is nothing for blk there.
globax [4d\]: nobody tells him, he has to feel it..
superdupon [2d\]: you mean r18
TeeSushi [3d\]: thomas is strong ... he will be 6d soon
GocchiSama [2d\]: black dead?
TeeSushi [3d\]: maybe 7d
iaznab [-\]: s17
Orc [4d\]: R18
Youssev [5d\]: I would try M3, to use then T6 for S3 aji in corner
superdupon [2d\]: he finished 8th at the ama world championship
Orc [4d\]: if blk plays at 3S and makes T6 sente, he might win by white's mistake
Youssev [5d\]: and if I know weel thomas has won against Catalin ??
yanopel [3d\]: yes
]
;W[re]C[ben0 [5d\]: hum ?
]
;B[lq]C[Nemerid [-\]: s17 et c'était bon non ?
yanopel [3d\]: gné
]
;W[kr]C[Matrok [7k?\]: white cowers ?!
choboco [1k\]: b p16?!
Orc [4d\]: S15 is...
yanopel [3d\]: de toute facon il tue bien plus gros^^
Arhiman [3k\]: he may have seen something we didn't
ben0 [5d\]: ouais mais quand meme c'est bizzare
yanopel [3d\]: oui
ben0 [5d\]: ya rien si il fait s17
yanopel [3d\]: s17 c t ok
]
;B[lr]C[Arhiman [3k\]: protecting from s13 ?
yanopel [3d\]: oué il a du halu
Matrok [7k?\]: probably, but was it something real or an halucination ?
hanskrens [7k\]: protecting against J4
yanopel [3d\]: halu
Erimies [4d\]: hallu
Erimies [4d\]: :d
Orc [4d\]: blk has only 3 liberties in the corner there is no reason for white to be so scared
GocchiSama [2d\]: but black is not alive
Icare [1d\]: what is M2 ?
Arhiman [3k\]: let's say s15 is french touch :)
iaznab [-\]: s3
globax [4d\]: o2 enough
ben0 [5d\]: dead in gote nice !
iaznab [-\]: n2
Youssev [5d\]: I would not say that
Youssev [5d\]: W will add
globax [4d\]: he wants s3
jerbio [1d?\]: black is... ridiculous
yanopel [3d\]: ^^ il va rajouter un coup  , il doit avoir faim
]
;W[rq]C[ben0 [5d\]: haha :)
yanopel [3d\]: voila^^
globax [4d\]: that's clear
Youssev [5d\]: yes !!!!
yanopel [3d\]: : resign plz
TeeSushi [3d\]: oh
globax [4d\]: m1
ben0 [5d\]: :)))
Matrok [7k?\]: OK, S15 was a "please resign move"...
globax [4d\]: m1 now
yanopel [3d\]: yep
Youssev [5d\]: P1 for the yose :)
Erimies [4d\]: resign is weak
globax [4d\]: w should o2 instead of s3
Orc [4d\]: if u know there is a good move but make a coward bad move just to win, thats not real GO
]
;B[od]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: a friend of mine once lost a game where his opponent should have resign
yanopel [3d\]: s17
Prodigious [5d?\]: Orc, sounds like a loser's lament :)
DiGigot [6k\]: and that is a "i want to count anyway" move ?
TeeSushi [3d\]: then he played 5 moves ... he said now i have 5 in a row i win ... and left the table
]
;W[rc]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: why not r18 Oo
zeph [3k\]: w once lost a game in dame , maybe B saw it :)
Orc [4d\]: I wish white lose by a few points after abondon Q18 stones haha
]
;B[iq]C[jerbio [1d?\]: pff
Erimies [4d\]: aji
dxxd [-\]: zeph, yeah at eygc :)
Nemerid [-\]: this is really a bad spirit of play
zeph [3k\]: yes 
yanopel [3d\]: bah ca a bien marché avec r16 ..
ben0 [5d\]: :)
choboco [1k\]: q18 doesnt look abandoned yet
globax [4d\]: k4
TeeSushi [3d\]: j4 
Orc [4d\]: white wont go too far with this kind of attitude
Erimies [4d\]: j4 b lives
globax [4d\]: then j2 if b cuts
GocchiSama [2d\]: igor a du entendre parler de lauto atari de thomas
GocchiSama [2d\]: y a encore de lespoir
zeph [3k\]: c'est clair !
yanopel [3d\]: oui
ben0 [5d\]: :))
zeph [3k\]: le pauvre quand mm :(
Matrok [7k?\]: quel auto-atari ?
Nemerid [-\]: ca a peut-être marché, ça n'en reste pas moins navrant
ben0 [5d\]: au champ euro jeune
Erimies [4d\]: aiming for l1 sente
ben0 [5d\]: contre un 3d je crois
ben0 [5d\]: il perd au dame en se faisant auto atari
yanopel [3d\]: non mais r16 devait etre un time suji je pense
ben0 [5d\]: et c'est devenu un tesuji
yanopel [3d\]: quoique c'est quoi le byo au congrès ?
Orc [4d\]: perd au pense mais champ
TeeSushi [3d\]: j4 still dead
Matrok [7k?\]: y'a une vidéo où Yasuhiro Nakano 9p a fait qqch de semblable...
Nemerid [-\]: l4 doit marcher
zeph [3k\]: je sai pas si c très correct de gagner dans les dame :s
Erimies [4d\]: j4 l5l4?
Orc [4d\]: devenu fait qqch pense
Nemerid [-\]: matrok : la video a été retirée :)
Erimies [4d\]: j4 l4
TeeSushi [3d\]: k3 
globax [4d\]: k4-j4-j2
Erimies [4d\]: l1
gargl: m1 isnt really sente
TeeSushi [3d\]: j4 l4 k3 l1 j2
InsanePat [-\]: elle est néamoins trouvable
Matrok [7k?\]: Nemerid : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt1FvPxmmfE&feature=related
LedZepplin [2d\]: L4
Icare [1d\]: j4 is ok 
Nemerid [-\]: l4 pour mo aussi
LedZepplin [2d\]: L4 better
ben0 [5d\]: tout marche de toute facon
]
;W[ip]C[LedZepplin [2d\]: oh
LedZepplin [2d\]: no
LedZepplin [2d\]: forgot
TeeSushi [3d\]: ha
yanopel [3d\]: m1 c'est meme gote
LedZepplin [2d\]: from D2
TeeSushi [3d\]: now we will see
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;B[kp]C[Youssev [5d\]: what happened, this game is no more on ?
Kyuss [1k\]: its on
yanopel [3d\]: presque 5 heures qu'ils jouent , les pauvres
globax [4d\]: shame on b
Kyuss [1k\]: w thinking
ben0 [5d\]: w laughing
LedZepplin [2d\]: lol on what is he thinking about?
XY0908 [-\]: Fredrik, why are you not in EGC?
Matrok [7k?\]: if B wins there is no shame...
superdupon [2d\]: his lunch
superdupon [2d\]: he is french after all
globax [4d\]: yes, even more
superdupon [2d\]: ;)
LedZepplin [2d\]: b gonna dead :O
LedZepplin [2d\]: oh no
LedZepplin [2d\]: he have another eye
Icare [1d\]: how to answer ?
Miller [5k\]: У игоря есть какой то план? 
Icare [1d\]: l1 is going to be sente !
zeph [3k\]: L5 ?
superdupon [2d\]: k3
TeeSushi [3d\]: no b dies here dont worry ledzeppelin
LedZepplin [2d\]: K3///
yanopel [3d\]: k3..
Matrok [7k?\]: K3, but then black L7
superdupon [2d\]: l5
yanopel [3d\]: oué
Matrok [7k?\]: euh L6
U [?\]: M1 B sente?
superdupon [2d\]: l7
gargl: no
Icare [1d\]: N2 
TeeSushi [3d\]: k3 l6 l7 black still deadn
ben0 [5d\]: oh mais en fait tout blanc est mort !
ben0 [5d\]: non rien
yanopel [3d\]: xD
yanopel [3d\]: tu sors
Nemerid [-\]: k3 is simple
]
;W[ir]C[jmh2 [2k\]: :-)
superdupon [2d\]: ??
Erimies [4d\]: looks yglu
zeph [3k\]: lugy
Nemerid [-\]: blanc semble perturbé
yanopel [3d\]: j2 est plus beau que k3
TeeSushi [3d\]: this one is good too
Kyuss [1k\]: if its dead, who cares if he connects j3 :)
Matrok [7k?\]: igloo ?
ben0 [5d\]: blanc est pas perturbé du tout
ben0 [5d\]: mais ya tellement de coup possible
ben0 [5d\]: il sait pas lequel joué
yanopel [3d\]: oui
Nemerid [-\]: en fait rien marche pour noir, qu'il abandonne
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;B[hq]C[GocchiSama [2d\]: hey
ben0 [5d\]: ....
jerbio [1d?\]: pas perturbé pas perturbé... il a qd même joué S15...
superdupon [2d\]: ^^
Kyuss [1k\]: k3 ....
GocchiSama [2d\]: igor is a good guy,don`t blame him
TeeSushi [3d\]: g3 
ben0 [5d\]: il gagné, on s'en fiche jerbio
superdupon [2d\]: c'est vraiment nimporte quoi
ben0 [5d\]: a*
Icare [1d\]: after L1 sente and O2 there is an eye no ?
Pinguschaf [5d\]: igor wins often with this kind of dirty moves
superdupon [2d\]: tant que la grosse dame chante...
yanopel [3d\]: xD
TeeSushi [3d\]: no icare
TeeSushi [3d\]: l1 k2 
Erimies [4d\]: this is igors way to play?
InABuzz [5k\]: tenuki^^
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;W[jq]C[XY0908 [-\]: Dirty? In what way?
GocchiSama [2d\]: ok done
Pinguschaf [5d\]: well its not rare that he is behind and wins by tricking
yanopel [3d\]: xD
Icare [1d\]: ho I see ths TeeSushi
Nemerid [-\]: il est devenu 5d comme ça... hé ben...
Erimies [4d\]: hehe _d
Orc [4d\]: m1
Pinguschaf [5d\]: i mean...what is h3? common
yanopel [3d\]: ardalan style quoi
gargl: m1 is not sente
LedZepplin [2d\]: m1 gote
jerbio [1d?\]: K4 alive ?
ben0 [5d\]: bon k4 histoire de
veteran [1d\]: h3 was error in sequence
yanopel [3d\]: oué
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;B[jp]C[jerbio [1d?\]: bim
Fredrik [-\]: error in the sequence was not resigning..
jerbio [1d?\]: thomas s'est fait escroqué
superdupon [2d\]: non
Orc [4d\]: M1 then O2 blk would be alive
globax [4d\]: g3
yanopel [3d\]: ou ?
ben0 [5d\]: non
Nemerid [-\]: pourquoi ?
]
;W[gq]C[globax [4d\]: over
ben0 [5d\]: m1 marche pas donc ca va
ben0 [5d\]: et voila
yanopel [3d\]: g3 : ABANDONNE JTE DIS 
Mikki62 [2k\]: hi everybody
]
;B[ce]C[Orc [4d\]: but M1 doesnt do anything for white grp
superdupon [2d\]: ^^
Matrok [7k?\]: pfff...
ben0 [5d\]: c15 : NON !
ben0 [5d\]: :)
TeeSushi [3d\]: r18 
yanopel [3d\]: xD
jerbio [1d?\]: loool
steng: эххх
jerbio [1d?\]: il est vraiment pourri
]
;W[bj]C[zeph [3k\]: reste correct qd mm
Mikki62 [2k\]: can the other games be looked at somehow?
Koukkaaja [2d\]: w should pass maybe
ben0 [5d\]: il juste meilleur que toi jerbio
yanopel [3d\]: bon il doit compter sur les damés
superdupon [2d\]: eurogotv could laugh at black for us please ;)
ben0 [5d\]: donc dit rien
superdupon [2d\]: you*
Nemerid [-\]: ca fait 3 heures qu'ils jouent, il veut l'avoir à l'usure
Erimies [4d\]: r18 :d
ben0 [5d\]: est *
yanopel [3d\]: 4:55*
]
;B[qb]
;W[rb]
;B[qa]
;W[ra]
;B[pc]C[Erimies [4d\]: how much w wins not much tho?
InABuzz [5k\]: o m2 dead righ`?? (just came in)
yanopel [3d\]: une partie de 5 heure  c'est hardcore comme meme
choboco [1k\]: cant w try to kill p5?^^
DiGigot [6k\]: et même comme différend
choboco [1k\]: or cant b live there?^^
jerbio [1d?\]: oui, 5h ca lessive le cerveau
Elandal [3k\]: P5 already dead
InABuzz [5k\]: ok
choboco [1k\]: black s8 how to kill?
siulongbao [7k\]: p5 dead ?
Icare [1d\]: black l1 then O2... O1 is the w answer ?
Kyuss [1k\]: s8 r7 
BigJimBeef [16k\]: B could still make a game of this
Nemerid [-\]: blanc a perdu beaucoup quand même en haut en ayant peur
yanopel [3d\]: ah la revue est arrivé
Arhiman [3k\]: c2 ?
superdupon [2d\]: bah il a encore 20 pts d'avance
yanopel [3d\]: 30
yanopel [3d\]: non 20 en fait
Nemerid [-\]: C2 semble pas mal
]
;W[km]C[Arhiman [3k\]: ???
yanopel [3d\]: xD
superdupon [2d\]: t'habite où yanopel?
kkwett [2k\]: ???
yanopel [3d\]: paris
Matrok [7k?\]: ?! white cowers again ?
TeeSushi [3d\]: someone afraid there?
zeph [3k\]: ça blinde
Erimies [4d\]: xmas is early this year
superdupon [2d\]: oki, en province dans la semaine donc
Arhiman [3k\]: white aiming at 0,5 win or what ?
yanopel [3d\]: ^^
Nemerid [-\]: meme si noir perd, ca le conforte dans son attitude, car il a réussi sa guerre psychologique
XY0908 [-\]: It amazes me that after the huge dragon dies someone still has enough spirit to go on.
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;B[cr]C[choboco [1k\]: white cowers a spot that makes no sense to me
ben0 [5d\]: si noir gagne de 0.5, je me pends
]
;W[bn]C[zeph [3k\]: j'achète la corde
JaslierSan [9k\]: faut pas exsagéré lol
kkwett [2k\]: clair thomas pourra avoir des regrets si ça arrive ...
KlerChazal [-\]: j achete la poutre
choboco [1k\]: black s8 how to kill?^^
sameasyou [2d\]: w wins easy
Kyuss [1k\]: s8 r7 
Nemerid [-\]: noir ne peut plus gagner, mais il est revenu à 10 points
Youssev [5d\]: plutot à 25 non ?
Erimies [4d\]: b14 big
Matrok [7k?\]: donc, c'est le moment pour abandonner...
]
;B[bo]C[dxxd [-\]: choboco, are you honorary 1kyu?
]
;W[be]
;B[bd]C[Arhiman [3k\]: thomas will have to learn how to deal with a big lead during a game
]
;W[bf]C[choboco [1k\]: honorary?
DiGigot [6k\]: honoraire quoi
]
;B[an]
;W[am]
;B[ao]C[haku123 [1d\]: :)
Pingu007 [3d\]: on te l'a donné? (c ca la question :))
Arhiman [3k\]: a16 ?
Pingu007 [3d\]: pour bons et loyaux services.. en gros :)
XY0908 [-\]: White plays so safe now.
]
;W[cs]
;B[bs]
;W[ds]C[Pinguschaf [5d\]: igor really has to learn how to resign then, i would say ;) 
DiGigot [6k\]: b F1 ?  :)
Caldheron [8k\]: actually russians never surrenders
XY0908 [-\]: Maybe he lost the momentum.
Kyuss [1k\]: b7 
kkwett [2k\]: a16 
InABuzz [5k\]: how big is b2 pls
Caldheron [8k\]: they won many wars this way
kkwett [2k\]: no need b7
Kyuss [1k\]: ah b7 doesnt work
Mem0r3x [1k\]: b2 = 5.5
InABuzz [5k\]: thx
Miller [5k\]: Caldheron, nice ) 
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;B[br]
;W[ad]
;B[ac]
;W[ae]
;B[bc]C[Arhiman [3k\]: g11 ?
]
;W[ij]
;B[hi]
;W[gi]C[yclept [5k\]: Stalin prohibited resignation to russians
]
;B[gh]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: sth like 25 pts for thomas
XY0908 [-\]: Now SE works.
]
;W[em]C[InABuzz [5k\]: god bless them
Warfreak2 [5d\]: SE never works
]
;B[qg]
;W[rg]C[Kyuss [1k\]: thats not entirely true
]
;B[kl]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: ok
Kyuss [1k\]: it sometimes works
]
;W[pf]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: it works 1/720 of the time
]
;B[ll]
;W[ml]
;B[of]C[XY0908 [-\]: 1/720 is never? ;-) You are good at math.
]
;W[fn]
;B[fk]
;W[fl]C[InABuzz [5k\]: SE is great
InABuzz [5k\]: imagine all games are played have their own SE
DiGigot [6k\]: maybe B doesn't know he's losing ?
InABuzz [5k\]: its incredible
]
;B[do]C[hone: what does SE stand for?
Mem0r3x [1k\]: d5?
InABuzz [5k\]: score stimator
TeeSushi [3d\]: score estimator
Erimies [4d\]: white actyally gave b chance to live his group but he didnt want to
Oresama [2k\]: i've no pb with SE at endgame time
hone: thank you
]
;W[en]C[Mem0r3x [1k\]: What for?
Warfreak2 [5d\]: if i toss a coin to choose whether to buy or sell on the stock market
]
;B[hj]
;W[hk]
;B[jk]C[Warfreak2 [5d\]: and i make money one day, did my method work that day?
]
;W[gn]C[Arhiman [3k\]: dame time
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;B[eo]C[Arhiman [3k\]: please thomas be careful
Mem0r3x [1k\]: Over.
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: they are counting
Warfreak2 [5d\]: i would stipulate that even on the days that make money it is not my method that worked
LedZepplin [2d\]: w+24.5
BoGoss [2k\]: w+26?
TeeSushi [3d\]: there is no half point
Erimies [4d\]: resign after counting
Erimies [4d\]: :D
sameasyou [2d\]: SE includes komi?
TeeSushi [3d\]: its ing rules with 8 komi
LedZepplin [2d\]: ohhh so 26+
Mem0r3x [1k\]: c7 is not a point for SE ^^
gdghgjd [1d\]: l1, o2, how to kill?
Icare [1d\]: O1 ghgh
TeeSushi [3d\]: to be exactly ... simplified ing rules ^^
gargl: p2
Kyuss [1k\]: l1 k2 o2 p2 n3 o1 n1 p1 
gargl: is sufficient
Mem0r3x [1k\]: l1 h2 o2 p2 n3 o1 
Nemerid [-\]: w+25
Matrok [7k?\]: Bravo Thomas !
gdghgjd [1d\]: after p2 -> o1
Momogo [3d\]: alex3p won the last game=
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: W+25
Momogo [3d\]: ?
superdupon [2d\]: ridiculous for a 5d
Mem0r3x [1k\]: Then n3 n2 m1 
wanda [1k\]: any news from other boards?
TeeSushi [3d\]: as i said :D
Greyish [1d\]: after o1 n3
JaslierSan [9k\]: Le grp noir a mal d'avoir perdu tout ça
TeeSushi [3d\]: thanks fore the broadcast eurogotv
globax [4d\]: is it over ?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: yes
bolbi [-\]: Bravo Thomas !
yanopel [3d\]: bravo !
thomasdra [12k\]: score ?
Janan [-\]: thanks eurogotv
globax [4d\]: thx eurogotv3
bolbi [-\]: EuroGoTV3 [-\]: W+25
globax [4d\]: bravo thomas :)
thomasdra [12k\]: yo
JaslierSan [9k\]: Bravo a thomas
DiGigot [6k\]: il lit ici ?
bolbi [-\]: thx eurogotv
yanopel [3d\]: ty eurogotv
shindon [9k\]: ty erotv
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