(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[9000]OT[1x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Go Congress 2009 round 7 board 3]PW[Kim Joon Sang]PB[Kim Eunkuk]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2009-08-04]EV[main]RO[7]PC[Groningen, Netherlands]WT[KR]BT[KR]US[kamyszyn]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: 7th round pairing http://www.egc2009.nl/?q=node/1493
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;B[qd]
;W[dd]
;B[pp]
;W[dp]
;B[oc]C[Pylon [2k\]: good morning euro
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: hi pylon
Pylon [2k\]: how come these players are not first board?
]
;W[qn]
;B[qk]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: 5 players with 5 wins, so 3rd board is natural
Pylon [2k\]: ok
DangoMango [4k\]: first board? hikaru was first board!!
Pylon [2k\]: do you broadcast two games at once?
]
;W[mp]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: yes
Pylon [2k\]: wow
Pylon [2k\]: hope they wont play fast ^^
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: I hope so too ;)
Pylon [2k\]: where do you euro guys come from?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: 1 and 2 netherlands, I'm from poland
Pylon [2k\]: how come u became broadcaster for the egc?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: I emailed one of the organizers
Pylon [2k\]: so it was not on request by the egc?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: of course not ;)
Pylon [2k\]: well, didnt know that ^^
RikazeMA [25k?\]: Is this one being broadcast live on EuroGoTV?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: no, only 1st board
RikazeMA [25k?\]: Ah, oh well.
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;B[qo]
;W[pn]
;B[oo]
;W[pl]
;B[mo]C[just9x9 [-\]: do you broadcast 2 games at a time eurogotv3? same person?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: yes
just9x9 [-\]: wow
just9x9 [-\]: are the boards close enough to eachother?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: yes, about 1 meter to the left and to the right
]
;W[pk]C[just9x9 [-\]: that seems doable, but i wish you a pleasant byo yomi ;P
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: thanks :P
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;B[lp]
;W[rd]
;B[qc]
;W[qi]
;B[fq]
;W[cn]
;B[fo]
;W[dr]
;B[mq]
;W[qe]
;B[pe]
;W[qf]
;B[fc]
;W[cf]
;B[id]C[jewel [1k\]: does n3 control an invasion at r3?
]
;W[kc]
;B[jc]
;W[ke]
;B[pf]
;W[pg]
;B[og]
;W[ph]
;B[if]
;W[kg]
;B[db]
;W[cc]
;B[er]
;W[ho]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: n3 controls all 
Chilltime [2k\]: n3 is bigger than jesus
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;B[dm]
;W[en]
;B[iq]
;W[eq]
;B[fr]
;W[fn]
;B[cm]C[WonderGoma [4k\]: ?
]
;W[bn]
;B[cj]
;W[ch]
;B[dn]
;W[do]
;B[bm]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Bogackyj Dmytro  - Oh Chi-Min  0-1 (board 4)
]
;W[eo]C[tupinoz [4k\]: how about table 10
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: not in my room
Pylon [2k\]: yanqi still playing?
tupinoz [4k\]: which room
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: I'm in room with boards 3-8
tupinoz [4k\]: do you know which room is table 10
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: next one
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: 9-16
]
;B[ej]
;W[hq]
;B[hr]
;W[ip]
;B[jq]
;W[bp]
;B[rc]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: time - white 1:51, black 1:21
tupinoz [4k\]: thx
]
;W[mc]
;B[cb]
;W[he]C[Pylon [2k\]: nice peep, preparing h18
]
;B[hd]
;W[jb]
;B[ib]
;W[jd]
;B[ic]
;W[ie]C[Muscadet [?\]: great sequence for w
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;B[ld]
;W[kd]
;B[ge]
;W[gf]
;B[hf]
;W[je]
;B[fe]
;W[rn]
;B[ro]
;W[so]
;B[sp]
;W[sn]
;B[rp]
;W[gg]C[BoGoss [2k\]: b18 ?
]
;B[gj]C[seppy [?\]: b11?
]
;W[of]
;B[oe]
;W[nf]
;B[hh]
;W[hg]
;B[jh]
;W[ig]
;B[li]
;W[ij]
;B[lk]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Galchenko Mykhajlo  - Chang Yuan Jung  0-1 (board 5)
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;W[ln]
;B[km]
;W[kp]
;B[kq]
;W[lo]
;B[np]
;W[jn]
;B[lm]
;W[ih]
;B[ik]
;W[jk]
;B[il]
;W[kj]
;B[lj]
;W[hj]
;B[gk]
;W[hk]
;B[mn]
;W[gl]
;B[bi]
;W[el]
;B[bh]
;W[bg]C[Youssev [5d\]: csaba still playing ?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: yes
Youssev [5d\]: tx
]
;B[dh]
;W[dg]
;B[eh]
;W[bb]
;B[dc]
;W[cd]
;B[ba]
;W[ab]
;B[jm]
;W[re]
;B[ne]
;W[mf]
;B[ji]
;W[jj]
;B[me]
;W[le]
;B[lg]
;W[lf]C[kumbhaka [3d\]: csaba?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: playing
]
;B[in]
;W[hn]
;B[jo]
;W[nb]
;B[ob]
;W[lh]
;B[ki]
;W[kb]C[Hideto [3k\]: D1 and k4 ? big ? 
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;B[gi]
;W[ed]
;B[ec]
;W[jp]
;B[ko]
;W[hl]
;B[nc]
;W[mb]
;B[oi]
;W[dk]
;B[ck]
;W[nk]
;B[mh]
;W[mg]
;B[nh]
;W[nj]
;B[ni]
;W[ml]
;B[ll]
;W[nm]
;B[ia]
;W[es]
;B[fs]
;W[ds]
;B[gp]
;W[dl]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: w 0:53 b 0:01
]
;B[cl]
;W[dj]
;B[di]C[pernod [8k\]: isn't black leading ?
b2bomber [?\]: I believe so.
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;W[md]
;B[hp]
;W[io]
;B[kn]
;W[nd]
;B[od]
;W[sc]
;B[sb]
;W[sd]
;B[qb]
;W[fk]
;B[ee]
;W[eg]
;B[bk]
;W[fd]
;B[gd]
;W[de]
;B[oj]
;W[ok]
;B[em]C[pernod [8k\]: 7.5 is big komi
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: 8 ing rules
kumbhaka [3d\]: csaba finished?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: no
]
;W[am]
;B[al]
;W[an]
;B[jg]
;W[jf]
;B[kh]
;W[lg]
;B[on]
;W[om]
;B[pj]
;W[qj]
;B[fp]
;W[hm]
;B[fm]
;W[fl]
;B[ii]
;W[gn]
;B[im]
;W[ah]
;B[ai]
;W[ag]
;B[ep]
;W[dq]
;B[na]
;W[ma]
;B[oa]
;W[ja]
;B[ef]
;W[nn]
;B[ci]
;W[cg]
;B[fh]
;W[fj]
;B[fg]C[Greyish [1d\]: b+1.5
]
;W[bd]
;B[mi]
;W[pi]
;B[ff]C[XXXL [2k\]: B+tie
]
;W[hi]
;B[gh]
;W[ek]
;B[ei]
;W[df]C[wintogo [7d\]: black won by 1point
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: fast dame
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: they are counting
]
;B[gm]
;W[go]
;B[mm]
;W[mk]
;B[no]
;W[mj]
;B[po]
;W[oh]
;B[ng]
;W[aa]
;B[ca]
;W[kk]
;B[kl]
;W[jl]C[Meareal [4k\]: f11
]
;B[fi]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: B+1
Meareal [4k\]: thx eugo
ygz5001 [8k\]: ty
wintogo [7d\]: the last move is black 
wintogo [7d\]: so black won by 1 point
TeeSushi [3d\]: tomorow it will be black against alex i guess
choboco [1k\]: kim is a girls name ;)
TeeSushi [3d\]: should be jigo
valius [1k\]: no jigo, black wins ties
TeeSushi [3d\]: yes but its not b+1 then
TeeSushi [3d\]: it was in another game where i thought it was strange ... both could fill all there stones when counting (it was with video broadcast) but they said its b+1
TeeSushi [3d\]: but if both can fill in all there stones it should be b+jigo or whatever you call it then
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: in ing rules each dame is also a point
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: jigo is possible only with seki on the board
TeeSushi [3d\]: yes
TeeSushi [3d\]: with "strange" seki
XY0908 [-\]: Jigo is possible when the whole board is in seki, you mean?
holycarp [-\]: or close game
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: just local seki
XY0908 [-\]: ?
TeeSushi [3d\]: like one no eyed group between two one eyed groups
Ronl [5d?\]: jigo is possible when there is triple ko 
Phear [-\]: that's not jigo, it's no result
XY0908 [-\]: Why so many different rules...
Phear [-\]: XY go play some clan games for you battleship lol
TeeSushi [3d\]: i thought ing had super ko? or does simplified has no super ko?
holycarp [-\]: i though they were palying japanese rules..
TeeSushi [3d\]: no they play ing rules
holycarp [-\]: option rules say japanese
jim [6d\]: Catalin still playing?
TeeSushi [3d\]: egc website says ing rules
TeeSushi [3d\]: japanes rules maybe was used so SE works here
XY0908 [-\]: Too many rules mean it's close to the end of the world.
holycarp [-\]: se work with any rule in the game info
TeeSushi [3d\]: and when i started go they said the rules are very easy ;)
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: I will give catalin result as soon as they finish
XY0908 [-\]: So what happens to this game?
XY0908 [-\]: B wins?
TeeSushi [3d\]: yes b won
XY0908 [-\]: Thanks.
macgill [2k\]: god ,soclose
XY0908 [-\]: Any live feed?
XY0908 [-\]: EurogoTV?
XY0908 [-\]: Can I have the link please?
holycarp [-\]: you have to register there
XY0908 [-\]: I am a VIP ;-)
holycarp [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/
holycarp [-\]: live tv register etc
XY0908 [-\]: Thanks.
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Taranu Catalin  - Mero Csaba  1-0 (board 7)
jim [6d\]: great
jim [6d\]: thx
jim [6d\]: finaly a good news for today
allonzo [6k\]: let's hope Catalin will have the chance to play Dinerchtein
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