(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[9000]OT[1x60 byo-yomi] GN[European Go Congress 2009 board 1 round 7]PW[Alexandre Dinerchtein]PB[Geert Groenen]WR[3p]BR[6d]DT[2009-08-04]EV[European Go Congress 2009 board 1 round 7]RO[7]PC[Groningen, The Netherlands]US[HW9x9]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Hi, all. TakokaT [4k\]: did breakfast win yesterday? mcw85 [7k\]: Let's have a good game kibitzing. TB [9d?\]: any web i can search for this competition? mcw85 [7k\]: Yes. mcw85 [7k\]: What do you mean, TB? danigabi [6d\]: ill kibitz the hell out of this one mcw85 [7k\]: Woot, dani! TB [9d?\]: I want to >< TB [9d?\]: know the result TB [9d?\]: yesterday's semiclassy [2d\]: http://www.egc2009.nl/ mcw85 [7k\]: http://egc2009.nl/ TB [9d?\]: thx xDragon [15k\]: so this will be only stream? Estrella [4k\]: is breakfast the only pro playing here? mcw85 [7k\]: http://egc2009.nl/?q=node/1472 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 TB [9d?\]: I want to know what is the time now in there place? mcw85 [7k\]: Catalin Taranu is also playing. goingonow [16k\]: wait what are the other egc tabs for xDragon [15k\]: almost 10am goingonow [16k\]: when is it starting mcw85 [7k\]: Time is 10am GMT+1 TB [9d?\]: it is 4 pm in Hong Kong- - mcw85 [7k\]: 7 minutes. xDragon [15k\]: lol at geert EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 7 minutes to start goingonow [16k\]: 1:00am in California xDragon [15k\]: he looks depressed TB [9d?\]: I want to join too ^^" TB [9d?\]: It looks like intresting goingonow [16k\]: what does xDragon [15k\]: thats a large coke bottle goingonow [16k\]: ooooohhhh Suola [7k\]: looks liek 1.5 liters czubek [9k\]: what the hell is he doin? mcw85 [7k\]: Fly over there, TB. :-) xDragon [15k\]: channeling his power onto the goban xDragon [15k\]: he has telekinetic powers czubek [9k\]: why did he put all the stones there? mmok: to count Suola [7k\]: so they know there is 181 and 180 there mmok: correct amount of stones czubek [9k\]: yeah, like he is going to run out of them^^ Suola [7k\]: chinese scoring mmok: czubek it's important for the rule set czubek [9k\]: what rule? xDragon [15k\]: alex has his own seat cushion? mmok: chinese scoring.. RikazeMA [25k?\]: When does it start? mmok: 4 minutes mcw85 [7k\]: 4 minutes. goingonow [16k\]: what is this anyways eurogotv RikazeMA [25k?\]: Okay, thank you! mmok: european go congress RikazeMA [25k?\]: Well... Sound like a TV Channel for European Go related things... RikazeMA [25k?\]: But yeah, the EGC right now. Estrella [4k\]: taking bets xDragon [15k\]: i take the 3p in under 150 moves goingonow [16k\]: so messed up i have no one to bet with goingonow [16k\]: and coke mmok: breakfast usually does not win in under 150 moves goingonow [16k\]: everyone takes the 3p ColorCoded: I'll side with the 6d goingonow [16k\]: what is the difference between p and d mint [4d\]: i wonder what trick play mr. breakfast will play today mmok: i believe he goes to end game a lot mmok: likes yose and trick moves no? xDragon [15k\]: thats why im taking that bet ColorCoded: goinggonow: p's are from pros, d's for amateurs mcw85 [7k\]: Q16 ColorCoded: as rule of thumb, 1p = 7.3d ColorCoded: and each p adds 0.3d mmok: lol Mousqueton [1k\]: os the webcam "on" ? Mousqueton [1k\]: is mmok: you cant be serious about actually trying to count p ranks.. jinkidie [16k\]: dude, you need more Coke than that! mmok: yes mousqueton goingonow [16k\]: awesome and you think that 6d is going to win ] ;B[pd]C[Mousqueton [1k\]: thanks Hello [3k\]: grr that coke bottle :o move it! ] ;W[dd]C[xDragon [15k\]: hmm no nigiri ] ;B[pq]C[mint [4d\]: W will try 3-3 do it ] ;W[dp]C[mint [4d\]: no mmok: no way goingonow [16k\]: who is black and white mint [4d\]: boring duha: what happened to Tabemasu? mmok: his trick moves come in joseki xDragon [15k\]: hes in america ] ;B[fq]C[goingonow [16k\]: oh im dumb ] ;W[cn] ;B[ip]C[mint [4d\]: good for you danigabi [6d\]: they seem very nervous ColorCoded: wonder if w is going to play same joseki as yesterday Uberdude [4d?\]: at least you can admit it goingonow [16k\]: thx czubek [9k\]: can you tell him to move that bottle away? che [-\]: Kobayashi Fuseki xDragon [15k\]: id like to see him play p16 again Adante [1k\]: actually Alexandre looks calm compared to yesterday mmok: if breakfast wins this, i think he has a chance to get 2nd or 3rd no? jinkidie [16k\]: nervous dani? how ya figure? ColorCoded: we went trough that p16 with guys at the local club danigabi [6d\]: they look artificially natural ColorCoded: judged it pretty decent Maybe5k [4k\]: hello Trash14 [3k\]: wats the link xDragon [15k\]: hmm geert seems to watch the people passing by, unlike most the ones seen Adante [1k\]: the only way you can tell when breakfast gets nervous is when he puts his leg(s) on his chair ;) mcw85 [7k\]: Oh. no. The strategist is back. Maybe5k [4k\]: mcw85 u r right. the strategist is back.! Onmyoji [2d\]: hi Trash14 [3k\]: anyone no link to tv IGoofy [1d\]: remove th ecoke bottle EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 Maybe5k [4k\]: let's talk about the kobayashi Onmyoji [2d\]: did breakfast lose yesterday to the korean?? mint [4d\]: breakfast won jinkidie [16k\]: no, when he really nervous he climbs on the table and squats on the board mcw85 [7k\]: He won. Adante [1k\]: no he won Onmyoji [2d\]: cool Hello [3k\]: is this the only game being broadcasted? Trash14 [3k\]: i have to log in mint [4d\]: he played very funny move Luffyop [2k\]: can somebody throw out this stupid bottle of coca cola ... Toovveak [-\]: another trick move today???? wotan123 [2d\]: his victory yesterday was unbelievable xDragon [15k\]: he needs something to talk about in his lecture RikazeMA [25k?\]: That seems like an awful room to play in... danigabi [6d\]: R6 standard xDragon [15k\]: so probably will Onmyoji [2d\]: is the game on this eurogotv account? danigabi [6d\]: white can also Q5 jinkidie [16k\]: Tell a noob: is j4 unusual? Adante [1k\]: yea EuroGo, politely ask if the bottle can be put down? :P mint [4d\]: can't get that bottle out of the way; Coca Cola is sponsor. Mousqueton [1k\]: i like eurogtv live US danigabi [6d\]: J4 is normal, jinkidie FishGo [3k\]: K4 is kobayashi czubek [9k\]: black next move should be, moving this stupid american black liquid bottle away! mcw85 [7k\]: Stanard pattern thhis is jinkidie [16k\]: tnk u dani Hello [3k\]: *is this the only game being broadcasted? Am [5d\]: hello.. SunnyD [2d\]: can someone share a login/pass mint [4d\]: obviously w knows standard move, and just trying to remember trick play in this pattern. EuroGoTV1 [-\]: test test mmok: it's free to register xDragon [15k\]: alex plays h2 and makes it work somehow mmok: why share? Mousqueton [1k\]: just create one Adante [1k\]: j4 is not often seen though? they either play K4 or D2 as follow up Mousqueton [1k\]: it s one min ] ;W[qj]C[Deva [1d\]: just use http://www.ustream.tv/channel/EuroGoTV1 Maybe5k [4k\]: ah, alex always has something up his sleeve mmok: seems a must to r6 Deva [1d\]: no need for login SunnyD [2d\]: that's a big bottle of the evil drink Am [5d\]: euro, may write, please, paring on hight boards? (need paring for Catalin and Shikshin) jinkidie [16k\]: what sleeve? Maybe5k [4k\]: tricks and new moves and new ideas SunnyD [2d\]: very good telecast, you can see the board Deva [1d\]: the cola bottle vanished lol mmok: http://www.egc2009.nl/?q=node/1493 mmok: Am, check that Luffyop [2k\]: haha they put down the bottle thx =) SunnyD [2d\]: getting rid of the evil drink is the proper move steng: Shikshin Ilya - Rehm Robert Estrella [4k\]: seems weird, this game is such a big deal on kgs and yet they're playing in what looks like an ordinary room with people just walking by lol Am [5d\]: lot of thanks... Hanne [3k\]: go geert! danigabi [6d\]: he stood up goingonow [16k\]: true Estrella [4k\]: did breakfast just leave? danigabi [6d\]: clearly off beat mint [4d\]: r12 or r8 jinkidie [16k\]: great resolution fer webcams huh? xDragon [15k\]: hes escaping goingonow [16k\]: thats what i was thinking SunnyD [2d\]: 3p bored already.. czubek [9k\]: hehe, i like this guy expresion SunnyD [2d\]: lol EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 Hello [3k\]: he's running! ban him please :[ jinkidie [16k\]: lol escaper mint [4d\]: nope mint [4d\]: shimari ] ;B[qo]C[goingonow [16k\]: dang make a move already Estrella [4k\]: how strange... goingonow [16k\]: who is czubek [9k\]: he was like, what the hell are you thinking mate? mmok: why not r6? steng: Taranu Catalin - Mero Csaba xDragon [15k\]: goingonow Hello [3k\]: his time is gonna run out! xDragon [15k\]: its a slow game Maybe5k [4k\]: ah, passive mmok: can't black be a bit more extended? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sound ok? SunnyD [2d\]: how old is geert? Crowno [10k?\]: ok Maybe5k [4k\]: should be easy game for alex sensei Adante [1k\]: r5 seems safe and solid mint [4d\]: he looks like 62 xDragon [15k\]: so you can expect at times can be like 5-10 min to make a move Adante [1k\]: not very flexible Reiter101 [-\]: r10? Hello [3k\]: who are those asian people?!! are they strong? Reiter101 [-\]: strange xDragon [15k\]: theyre asian mint [4d\]: oh look, it's Kim Sung-rae xDragon [15k\]: they play go in the womb mmok: pro Reiter101 [-\]: Eurogo czubek [9k\]: how strong is this guy? xDragon [15k\]: and theyre dans by age 3 Reiter101 [-\]: are you sure it's not r9 ? czubek [9k\]: oh 6d? Reiter101 [-\]: EUROGO! danigabi [6d\]: that was kimsungrae 4p there!! EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes Reiter101 [-\]: maybe it's r9 danigabi [6d\]: taking picture..he is my teacher! SunnyD [2d\]: not too strong, can't open the evil drink Maybe5k [4k\]: so much coke. omg mmok: caffiene for the game fancyfood [1d\]: that coke looks warm Hello [3k\]: hmmm giant bottle of coke yummy modgethanc [15k\]: is that considered a performance enhancer? ;) mint [4d\]: coke is disgusting mmok: i have a feeling he can win Adante [1k\]: it's zero, no sugar, very healthy mmok: hahaha mmok: coke and healthy? Hello [3k\]: WOO COKE IS MMOOOVED czubek [9k\]: dont put it there! mmok: can see board xDragon [15k\]: it stares at you mmok: that's all that matters Maybe5k [4k\]: nope he won't win. just look at R5. too timid. DangoMango [4k\]: did breakfast lose his game yesterday leger [1d\]: mint [4d\]: coke is disgusting +1 SunnyD [2d\]: 3p consulted with other pros during break? mmok: mp Hello [3k\]: hahah farted* ><* Lebron [?\]: who did geert beat in last round? Adante [1k\]: one leg on chair, tension is rising mmok: no he won dango mcw85 [7k\]: Cola in general is disgusting. xDragon [15k\]: broadcast not working? billybatts [-\]: lag Onmyoji [2d\]: yes goingonow [16k\]: dr pepper is way better jinkidie [16k\]: Your teacher? When do you start lessons, Dani? :)) InsanePat [-\]: hello, please calm down Hello [3k\]: so many people walking pass by is annoying Onmyoji [2d\]: mountain dew the best mint [4d\]: do your body a favor and drink water. Hello [3k\]: CLOSE THE DOOR goingonow [16k\]: or pepsi wild cherry xDragon [15k\]: water is disgusing Deva [1d\]: coffee!! Gaijin [6k\]: b looks like he's worried already ;) SunnyD [2d\]: please, enough talk about the drink Adante [1k\]: keep the comments about the game EuroGoTV1 [-\]: cannot close the door because of networkcable mint [4d\]: purple drank. xDragon [15k\]: i dont think you guys r admins Hello [3k\]: oh darn ] ;W[qf]C[Hello [3k\]: how troublesome SunnyD [2d\]: only talk juice from now on goingonow [16k\]: yes enough about the drink its making me thirsty mmok: sunnyd just wants to advertise himself! goingonow [16k\]: yes a move yay Hello [3k\]: is r14 standard? Hello [3k\]: ><" danigabi [6d\]: yes mmok: yes it;s good Maybe5k [4k\]: yes mint [4d\]: b is pretty boring guy, so probably o17 here IGoofy [1d\]: cut the cable EuroGoTV2 [-\]: I think having the door closed would be more troublesome, since the room is open to public and people would keep opening/closing the door danigabi [6d\]: o17 s16 r17 q12 f17 possible way of playing Onmyoji [2d\]: lol TakokaT [4k\]: i never like to make 4 space extensions and be open to invasion >_> Maybe5k [4k\]: black has two choices in general. for kyu or low dan players danigabi [6d\]: o17 s16 l17 r17 c14 mmok: 4 space? Hello [3k\]: ah i see. Estrella [4k\]: check out this bloke Hello [3k\]: red pants hmmm Hello [3k\]: yummy xD czubek [9k\]: what's wrong with broadcast? xDragon [15k\]: his head looks misshapen mcw85 [7k\]: I thought that pattern was supposed to be "too good" for white. TakokaT [4k\]: is that considered 3 space? i forget terminology, 4 lines, 3 spaces, argh SunnyD [2d\]: R16 Lebron [?\]: stylist red pants mint [4d\]: boring move: o17 <- || active move: r12 Adante [1k\]: dani, is R12 reasonable to play here? or is that in favour of white Maybe5k [4k\]: he will go R12 mmok: r12 is not active mmok: or reasonable! Gaijin [6k\]: could just r15 Ukasuhs [1k\]: o17 l17 is 2 space jump Hello [3k\]: i always thought r13 was standard ><" SunnyD [2d\]: whose sets are these, it's very nice SunnyD [2d\]: much better than the us go congress sets Meareal [4k\]: dinerchtein won yesterday, right? FishGo [3k\]: o16 is possible too mmok: in any case he already played o17 mmok: maereal yes jinkidie [16k\]: Why do all anglo players dress like asylum refugees? Lebron [?\]: diner won yesterday FishGo [3k\]: aiming at r12 Meareal [4k\]: k Meareal [4k\]: thx Estrella [4k\]: is it considered rude to stare directly into the opponents eyes? danigabi [6d\]: without R8 i thik r12 is not deisrable WonderGoma [4k\]: I though R6 was usual for kobayashi fuseki billybatts [-\]: rofl at the double head turn TakokaT [4k\]: to counteract the fans ;o mmok: estrella lol mint [4d\]: is that a man or a woman at the center? Mousqueton [1k\]: eurogotv lates Maybe5k [4k\]: he keeps sucking the coke! mmok: i thought that was the point of face to face games Hello [3k\]: hope he runs out :o Mousqueton [1k\]: 2 moves late IGoofy [1d\]: dinerchstein lost and as punishment he gained board 1 Hello [3k\]: heyy cutiee :\] Sakeus [-\]: that was woman :) ColorCoded: o17 and s16 will follow next Gaijin [6k\]: I predict bathroom breack at move 98 mmok: lol ColorCoded: euro is late ;/ FishGo [3k\]: imo white let black enclosed the corner because j4 is one space further than usual mmok: gaijin i think yo uare right SunnyD [2d\]: what time is it there? mint [4d\]: oh, that girl was yanqi i think Adante [1k\]: I see, thanks dani mmok: 10am sunnyD Hello [3k\]: yanqi? is she a pro? XXXL [2k\]: o17 s16 mmok: well 10:12 now mint [4d\]: not pro Elyon [7k?\]: o17 s16 billybatts [-\]: say cheese Sakeus [-\]: she isnt FishGo [3k\]: o17 s16 white comfortable ] ;B[nc] ;W[rd]C[Estrella [4k\]: what's more important at EGC that there's nobody watching this game? mmok: so is r5 not at r6 because of probe at r3 giving way to easy invasion at n3 area? Sebastian [2k\]: is geert a good player? Adante [1k\]: list of pro's who are there are here: http://egc2009.nl/?q=professionals Elyon [7k?\]: i'm a boss goingonow [16k\]: ??? 150min!!! Elyon [7k?\]: xD Adante [1k\]: see if you can spot one on the camera mcw85 [7k\]: Yanqi is 6d and lovely. Gaijin [6k\]: pretty safe to say they are all better than we are.... Pingu007 [3d\]: most of players are doing their own game estrella jinkidie [16k\]: Austin Powers returns oddalot [7k\]: maybe there are some pros who came and didn't sign up mcw85 [7k\]: Rob is still mad at Alex. SunnyD [2d\]: lol mint [4d\]: no trick play :( Estrella [4k\]: Pingu: you mean not like kgs where 95% just kibitz? Sakeus [-\]: :) hard games with her :) hard to concentrate i think :-P Pingu007 [3d\]: yeah mcw85 [7k\]: Is black thinking about r12? FishGo [3k\]: probably not xDragon [15k\]: i dont think r12 is good mcw85 [7k\]: I don't think that is good. Pingu007 [3d\]: plyaing irl and all that stuff OrangeRage [4k\]: lol SunnyD [2d\]: someone tells B it's his move mcw85 [7k\]: Me either. Hello [3k\]: that list of pros helped. thanks a lot Ukasuhs [1k\]: probably deciding between r17 or l17 modgethanc [15k\]: bathroom break 2 billybatts [-\]: quick rearrange the stones danigabi [6d\]: this fuseki was not only Blacks choice, but also very unradical Estrella [4k\]: does anyone who has watched breakfast play live before know if he does this a lot? danigabi [6d\]: i dont get why b spends so much time here czubek [9k\]: he went for the poo ftroiset [2d\]: r12 is quitec possible; r13 too goingonow [16k\]: why not k17 jinkidie [16k\]: spam spam spam spam spam spam lovely spaaaam czubek [9k\]: ive seen he was holding his bottom ColorCoded: yes, he cannot stay put goingonow [16k\]: oops never mind mint [4d\]: he's playing variations in the stall like ochi. Meareal [4k\]: does what, estrella? Ukasuhs [1k\]: r13 q13 would be good for w goingonow [16k\]: thought that was a 2 point ColorCoded: yesterday he did not stay till for 5 mins Estrella [4k\]: get up and walk away every four moves oddalot [7k\]: when you open Aleandre's closet, it's just a row of collered white shirts Meareal [4k\]: yes Hello [3k\]: how important is this game? is there a prize :o ] ;B[qc]C[mint [4d\]: $1,000,000 danigabi [6d\]: i have the same habit when i am bored and stressed Hello [3k\]: no way :o FishGo [3k\]: white tenuki jinkidie [16k\]: Time for Dani to clone and say something intelligent for the benefit of all ColorCoded: 15000€ for the tournament i hear Meareal [4k\]: and he sometimes sits like L from death note, that was quite a surprise for me yesterday TakokaT [4k\]: geert strategy = wait for w to go away, then make move, win on time Ukasuhs [1k\]: q12 f17 danigabi [6d\]: my last game in the WAGC i spent at least 1 hour of play watching other games SunnyD [2d\]: tricky B, W won't know where he played Hello [3k\]: how much is that in us money? ] ;W[ph]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: 20000 Hello [3k\]: wooowww Hello [3k\]: cool :\] goingonow [16k\]: what seriously goingonow [16k\]: hello hello SunnyD [2d\]: the stream in 7 secs behind...... mint [4d\]: $20,000? not bad... Hello [3k\]: hi goingo :o boatlord [6d\]: solid play by both danigabi [6d\]: So far they played as i said Maybe5k [4k\]: black so timid EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no dollars; euros modgethanc [15k\]: now try r12 ;) leger [1d\]: i always thought this was too good for white Dexter [2k\]: it is surprising black let white this shape Meganoide [2d\]: w to easy going Lebron [?\]: who did geert beat last round WonderGoma [4k\]: the iron cake goingonow [16k\]: start a fight already Ukasuhs [1k\]: so far they played a pretty standard fuseki right? Hello [3k\]: you can buy a nice pair of shoes with that money :\] xDragon [15k\]: why must the ddk's be a nuisance in order to make me look bad SunnyD [2d\]: 6d, where country are you from? danigabi [6d\]: with a woman using the shoes, Hello boatlord [6d\]: a bit of a trade, good for b to get enclosure and bottom position Hello [3k\]: xD boatlord [6d\]: good w shape on the right Hello [3k\]: oo isn't that guy a pro? Adante [1k\]: did Dinerchtein ever start an early fight? I believe not FishGo [3k\]: white confident in yose perhaps mcw85 [7k\]: Alex is the anti-korean korean pro. ftroiset [2d\]: F17 is normal now Dexter [2k\]: if he can avoid the fight he does because he is good at yose RikazeMA [25k?\]: What are the time rules? Hello [3k\]: what is this room.. where is this played at? mcw85 [7k\]: 2.5 hour main 1x1min BY. jinkidie [16k\]: c11 or somethin cmon guys open up the throttles RikazeMA [25k?\]: This is EGC, European Go Congress. Kyuss [1k\]: alexandre plays a safe, territorial style goingonow [16k\]: a pro that sucks at fights wheres the fun ColorCoded: the room is actually a kitchen GiacNgo08 [?\]: d2? Hello [3k\]: oh hm.. i thought it'd be a bigger event oddalot [7k\]: why is Alaxandre playing this guy when there are stronger players, and he won last round? Ukasuhs [1k\]: f17 Hello [3k\]: is there a better game going on or something? mcw85 [7k\]: Alex doesn't suck at fights. look at yesterday's game. Adante [1k\]: EGC in Groningen: http://picasaweb.google.com/gocongress2009/Day3#5363861192565249122 Adante [1k\]: pretty building to play Go in jinkidie [16k\]: must be round robin Kyuss [1k\]: alezandre doesnt "suck at fights", he just doesnt start them Ukasuhs [1k\]: theres like 200 players in this tpurnament Estrella [4k\]: b seems to be wasting a lot of time =\\ Ukasuhs [1k\]: oh wait nvm Hello [3k\]: is everyone playing a match or something? mint [4d\]: it's not a waste if he's thinking. xDragon [15k\]: b has 2 1/2 hrs not counting byo yomi Lebron [?\]: Props to whoever's pictures those are ftroiset [2d\]: 400 actually xDragon [15k\]: he has plenty of time Ukasuhs [1k\]: im thinking of other tournament going on atm derp [1k\]: odd- five players with one loss, can't all play each other Estrella [4k\]: so early, though... Hello [3k\]: how many games are going ot be played today? xDragon [15k\]: fuseki often takes the most time mcw85 [7k\]: Just 1. Hello [3k\]: i see mcw85 [7k\]: 1 round. oddalot [7k\]: yes, but two already did, alexandre and his opponent from yesterday WonderGoma [4k\]: goingonow [16k\] , a pro sucks at fight? what do you mean? you fight better than a pro? Adante [1k\]: 10 rounds in total I think billybatts [-\]: LOL ftroiset [2d\]: and Alex is the lowest player (as SIoS and Sodos goers) Estrella [4k\]: I bet w walking around makes b a little nervous oddalot [7k\]: of course, that would still leave an odd number of players.. mcw85 [7k\]: I thought you loved everyone, Goma. Hello [3k\]: i fight better than a pro :o hopefully he's skinny and not buff :o mcw85 [7k\]: You're picking a kibitz fight! mint [4d\]: Yoda Norimoto could beat you up both on the board and in the streets. SunnyD [2d\]: can Alex stand behind Geert XXXL [2k\]: everyone who put a drink on the table losed to diner billybatts [-\]: lol is that a toblerone Hello [3k\]: xD czubek [9k\]: cant he just make a move, and pretend to think later^^ oddalot [7k\]: do you think alexandre and catalin are going to get to play each other? Ukasuhs [1k\]: f17!!! Hello [3k\]: how strong do you have to be to qualify for this tournament? mcw85 [7k\]: Someone needed to change that garbage yesterday, now it is overflowing. oreh [15k\]: maybe he is afk? danigabi [6d\]: b is japanese school player danigabi [6d\]: w is korean school player oreh [15k\]: coffee or some like this ? :P SunnyD [2d\]: B is waiting for a lifeline Hello [3k\]: he's probably getting cereal xDragon [15k\]: l17 is too close isnt it? Lebron [?\]: are you allowed to drink alcohol while playing? xDragon [15k\]: maybe not Estrella [4k\]: lol lebron billybatts [-\]: the carbonation is making me sick oreh [15k\]: yes u do oreh [15k\]: it's your choose but it can be like a doping jinkidie [16k\]: who knows whats in the bottle Lebron [?\]: cause i read somewhere that someone would always play with a drink hehe mcw85 [7k\]: Two drinks of cola make me feel so bloated. mint [4d\]: nope, that's why you put the alcohol in coca cola bottle like Geert. TeeSushi [3d\]: its good to see there is at least one european who can win against the koreans YusufS [2k\]: oh god, that really makes me feel sick oddalot [7k\]: its the netherlands, you can do whatever you want xDragon [15k\]: jack and coke SunnyD [2d\]: who, tee? Adante [1k\]: F17 now? mint [4d\]: Artem beat Oh Chi-min once, in another tournament. TeeSushi [3d\]: alex TeeSushi [3d\]: alex won yesterday czubek [9k\]: diner is cheating, i bet he is studing some joseki books, or consulting with other bihind the cameras!! billybatts [-\]: alexandre got lost Hello [3k\]: could you do that o.o mint [4d\]: he's probably just drinking some morning vodka. Estrella [4k\]: returns, dismayed his opponent still hasn't moved Adante [1k\]: to have a Go book in your hand while playing is probably allowed mcw85 [7k\]: He is going to come back with a Ronald Ragen mask on to psyche out Geert. boatlord [6d\]: it is a well-known fact dinnertime reads kgs comments to choose difficult moves xDragon [15k\]: hes watching out kibitz Hello [3k\]: is he really thinking? :\] he looks away a lot xDragon [15k\]: with a secret account SunnyD [2d\]: D17!! Estrella [4k\]: can someone high dan describe what b could possibly be thinking this hard about? xDragon [15k\]: d17? Kyuss [1k\]: f17 seems ok, right? Adante [1k\]: probably a bit nervy, Hello oddalot [7k\]: so what can't you do while playing? jinkidie [16k\]: lol mcw xDragon [15k\]: you cant move twice in a row lth [-\]: b should play c11 Adante [1k\]: I'd go for F17 here, seems big enough danigabi [6d\]: the big points are C14, F17 ad M4 billybatts [-\]: he should move one of ws stones while hes not in the room IGoofy [1d\]: b has lost his forehair due to colaholic xDragon [15k\]: i think f17 is ebst at this point SunnyD [2d\]: B is stalling for camera time Hello [3k\]: if it were me i'd go with d2 or m4 x.x jinkidie [16k\]: no trumpet playing OrangeRage [4k\]: lol lth [-\]: c11 only move ] ;B[fc]C[mint [4d\]: ^ ] ;W[df]C[xDragon [15k\]: winner OrangeRage [4k\]: t1 looks good now billybatts [-\]: lol instant response i love it Hello [3k\]: oo he thinks so fast, no wonder he's a pro lth [-\]: this ruins everything mint [4d\]: c17 lth [-\]: xD SunnyD [2d\]: W can take a nap now Hello [3k\]: now the 20min wait again TakokaT [4k\]: b resigns TakokaT [4k\]: ;o Adante [1k\]: C12 looks elegant mcw85 [7k\]: Chi-Minh is still undefeated in the blitz tourney. Hello [3k\]: white resigns! chus he's tired and want sleep wotan123 [2d\]: c17 danigabi [6d\]: 10 minutes to play the obvious move Hello [3k\]: did someone just snapped? lol goingonow [16k\]: w loses 20000 bucks due to fatigue goingonow [16k\]: from goingonow [16k\]: this... EuroGoTV1 [-\]: they both looked very angry as i opened a can danigabi [6d\]: and he didnt have a plan to D14 modgethanc [15k\]: how dare you make noise ;) Hello [3k\]: hahah i noticed. they gave that intense stare czubek [9k\]: black is planing on BIG cupture, he needs 2 lids for^^ oddalot [7k\]: why eurogo? TakokaT [4k\]: lol yeah dinerchtein looked about to kill someone xD danigabi [6d\]: a can of what? xDragon [15k\]: pepsi Hello [3k\]: better not be coke xDragon [15k\]: fight! Ukasuhs [1k\]: k16 goingonow [16k\]: same here fight SunnyD [2d\]: how old is al? RelaX1337 [?\]: im PRO Adante [1k\]: maybe just K16 here Hello [3k\]: don't fight o.o not yet :o lth [-\]: the way i c it, white got to ruin blacks middle, so, black has to ruin whites middle otherwhise unnaceptable oddalot [7k\]: 30? mint [4d\]: he's 29 years old oddalot [7k\]: he looks older than 30 if you ask me though mint [4d\]: but looks like 45 danigabi [6d\]: d18 might b ok FishGo [3k\]: b d18 white might very well tenuki danigabi [6d\]: d18 c17 h16 xDragon [15k\]: his face looks young Hello [3k\]: maybe that's what happen when you play go too much czubek [9k\]: if the price for being 6d is to look and behave like this grump, i dont want to be more then 3 k^^ Ukasuhs [1k\]: d18 g17 looks more likely than d18 c17 billybatts [-\]: hes aged 10 years this game lth [-\]: black is already losing jinkidie [16k\]: ah but b has 2 middles white has only one to ruin Estrella [4k\]: see w come back into the room with a paddle and ball on a string oddalot [7k\]: catalin seems a lot nicer modgethanc [15k\]: gesundheit! xDragon [15k\]: id give both arms to be 6d watergun [-\]: caucasians will always look older than asians. xDragon [15k\]: i could play with my feet Hello [3k\]: somebody has allergies xD WonderGoma [4k\]: xDragon, sit down and be quiet please FishGo [3k\]: danigabi: after your sequence white plays around c10 can we say he got the last big point in fuseki? DrZoom [5k\]: I would play video games while Geert is thinking... :-P xDragon [15k\]: wondergoma, who r u Hello [3k\]: k16 pwhahah jinkidie [16k\]: Both arms? Fingernail clippings would be fairer Hello [3k\]: is that move bad? Hello [3k\]: xD WonderGoma [4k\]: :-) Draak [1d\]: good morning all lth [-\]: d14 is for attacking wotan123 [2d\]: please geert move! ColorCoded: there went w's yesterdays opponent Ukasuhs [1k\]: wondergoma has no authority over the kibitx!!!!! ^^ Hello [3k\]: who's that?! rkan: be prepared to an endgame made of 200moves >_< billybatts [-\]: 2 Hello [3k\]: who are those 2 playing? Ukasuhs [1k\]: kibitz* Hello [3k\]: ohhh mint [4d\]: wonderful fabric xunn: how long is black gonna take man Hello [3k\]: is there game being broadcasted? billybatts [-\]: nice watch Adante [1k\]: the two Koreans czubek [9k\]: does geert play on KGS aswell goingonow [16k\]: hey a fight might start anyways cause black needs it czubek [9k\]: ? Hello [3k\]: is there game being broadcasted?* Draak [1d\]: why is this board one? SunnyD [2d\]: a cheat sheet on the table? Hello [3k\]: their czubek [9k\]: so i know to cencor him jinkidie [16k\]: nice stones oddalot [7k\]: that guy wears the same shirt every day, green stripe mint [4d\]: who is that? Oh Chi-min? Hello [3k\]: it's his lucky charms IGoofy [1d\]: must smell like hell EuroGoTV1 [-\]: board 2 Draak [1d\]: ah ok czubek [9k\]: bloody hell, he changed a lot!! just9x9 [-\]: k16 here? or invade left? Timi [8k\]: Did dinerchtein win his last game? WonderGoma [4k\]: language mcw85 [7k\]: Yes. mint [4d\]: yes TImi Adante [1k\]: on cam is board 2 currently Kisei44 [7k\]: hello, video url for this game? billybatts [-\]: at least hes drinking water mcw85 [7k\]: Tat is In-Seong. Hello [3k\]: i can't find their match, only alex and geert being broadcasted? Draak [1d\]: well nice to see geert playing anyway mint [4d\]: nice view of clock mcw85 [7k\]: 2.04 2:21 modgethanc [15k\]: oh, thanks for the clock shot :) czubek [9k\]: good point camra boy! Hello [3k\]: go back to the koreans! Oloril [1k\]: how is rusty doing in the tournament? I don't see a broadcast of his game mcw85 [7k\]: W B mcw85 [7k\]: Err, B W Kyuss [1k\]: really? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: rusty lost 2 or 3 times mint [4d\]: rusty's getting rusty Kisei44 [7k\]: url video plz if possible? TakokaT [4k\]: too easy mint ;P jinkidie [16k\]: I like board closeups max rez wanna see the white stone grain EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 Adante [1k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 mcw85 [7k\]: Twice. Kisei44 [7k\]: thx eurogoTV mcw85 [7k\]: But he is undefeated in the Speed Go tourney. EuroGoTV2 [-\]: check our info for links Adante [1k\]: I'm in favour for K16 Kisei44 [7k\]: and mcw85 :) SunnyD [2d\]: I see what B is trying to do now!!!! mint [4d\]: c17 is the way to go EuroGoTV1 [-\]: there is rusty! Hello [3k\]: aww can't euro2 put his game on broadcast SunnyD [2d\]: after 20 mins and W is gone for a while,he would think B moved and play a second move in a row and lose the game EuroGoTV2 [-\]: It's not in my hands, I'm afraid SunnyD [2d\]: this is brilliant Hanne [3k\]: no blood yet Hello [3k\]: he's turning red jinkidie [16k\]: Dani, are they trying to figure which invasion might be worth more than 4 point jump? Ukasuhs [1k\]: b could simply be trying to annoy w Hello [3k\]: thinking too hard might give heart attack Hello [3k\]: :o billybatts [-\]: its andy samberg Ukasuhs [1k\]: by thinking so long czubek [9k\]: alex might be close to resigning, at this point Adante [1k\]: maybe there's an arcade hall next to the room they're playing, breakfast playing pacman while G. Groenen thinks Hello [3k\]: LOL he gave the angry stare at the guy in red mint [4d\]: there's austin powers again, yeah baby! czubek [9k\]: i mean, whats the point! IGoofy [1d\]: making mistakes now or later is miai goingonow [16k\]: is it against the rules to go to the arcade room for 20 min. then come back Estrella [4k\]: obviously b waiting for the effects of his jack & coke to kick in goingonow [16k\]: for alex ColorCoded: going: no Hello [3k\]: he's probably playing street fighter 4 oddalot [7k\]: geert kinda looks like glass joe from mike tysons punch out Gary34 [4k?\]: as we all should be ftroiset [2d\]: next normal move is j16 ColorCoded: you can get yourself wasted if you want, aslong as you show up in reasonable time after the round starts billybatts [-\]: rofl glass joe Hello [3k\]: do some people actually drink before a game? ColorCoded: after that, it's up to you how use your time ColorCoded: well, i've been to local bar for an hour during a tournament game Hello [3k\]: 20000 AT STAKE DON'T MAKE A MISTAKE Estrella [4k\]: are there byo-yomi periods for these guys or what? Hello [3k\]: oo rhymed. im good :o Kenjutsu [2k\]: is it really that hard? DrZoom [5k\]: next move is coming in 3... 2... 1... IGoofy [1d\]: b just enjoys board no 1 ekku [-\]: i think there are doping rules nowadays in Go also mint [4d\]: just c17 already mint [4d\]: geez Kenjutsu [2k\]: the dude is like really turning red Muscadet [?\]: i like to play q9 with this shape, making w clearly overconcentrated and building a centermoyo. makes it hard for w to enter the lower side Hello [3k\]: move the camera again :\] Hello [3k\]: <<< Hello [3k\]: that way watergun [-\]: does anyone the name of the blind go european player? fancyfood [1d\]: dinnertime should do steal bottle tesuji EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Pierre Audouard I think watergun [-\]: does anyone know?* watergun [-\]: oh Hello [3k\]: he has yummy shoes mint [4d\]: yeah, it's Pierre watergun [-\]: thnaks mint [4d\]: and he's not really blind mcw85 [7k\]: Steal bottle tesuji would force black to use nuclear tesuji. watergun [-\]: thanks mint [4d\]: just very impaired visually Estrella [4k\]: they're playing in what appears to be a kitchen Adante [1k\]: mint, do you know his strength by any chance? Hello [3k\]: there game is going pretty fast mint [4d\]: french 5d mmok: 5d Hello [3k\]: their* watergun [-\]: how is he doing, eurotv? mmok: he's strong Adante [1k\]: ah, pretty nice mmok: is he using different board? dxxd [-\]: yes Adante [1k\]: a special board, yes SunnyD [2d\]: do you get the tea for free there? xDragon [15k\]: braille board Kyuss [1k\]: its not Pierre Adoubard, is it? the french champion? qgo [4k\]: good morning EuroGo jinkidie [16k\]: Well at least they didnt set up the tables in a washroom Hello [3k\]: the guy wit hthe glasses looks intimidating xD Kyuss [1k\]: Audouard Pierre mmok: what's the time for both players ? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: morning qgo, how about world peace? watergun [-\]: is pierre doing fine? mcw85 [7k\]: If d18 c17 h16, Where will white play? ftroiset [2d\]: and french champion goingonow [16k\]: ok this is dull eurogotv2 EuroGoTV2 [-\]: It is "Pierre Audouard" billybatts [-\]: this is like a filibuster goingonow [16k\]: better qgo [4k\]: mum's the word EuroGoTV1 [-\]: he did very well first week Hello [3k\]: noo don't leave! watergun [-\]: i see mmok: not doing so well right now.. mcw85 [7k\]: Two invasions and one big point. EuroGoTV1 [-\]: last few days made some mistakes modgethanc [15k\]: switching players watergun [-\]: oh Hello [3k\]: bad alex, it's not time to concern another player's match! gopro [2k\]: well must say that a pro-wrestling fight has more action SunnyD [2d\]: why is there a purse behind the green guy? mmok: http://www.egc2009.nl/?q=node/1472 ranked 51 :/ ColorCoded: SunnyD: probab] ;B[id]C[czubek [9k\]: hello : probably takes it away! mint [4d\]: tsk boatlord [6d\]: bottom would be easy to invade even if k4 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: HW9x9 xDragon [15k\]: a move! Hello [3k\]: xD billybatts [-\]: its so easy a caveman can do it Hello [3k\]: WOAH TakokaT [4k\]: whoa whoa whoa Hello [3k\]: i want that cool referee thing tsuchigumo [-\]: so poor prospectrs of large territory either at bottom or on the right billybatts [-\]: i want that guys sash SunnyD [2d\]: lol, W called referee to force a move Hello [3k\]: sash* yeah that thing xD mcw85 [7k\]: It looks like he just looked at clock and though "oh, man, my move!" Sebastian [2k\]: wow they played 3 move while i was playing a whole game! TakokaT [4k\]: b really likes the large knights move TeeSushi [3d\]: d10 or l3 i guess mint [4d\]: hey billybatts Hello [3k\]: oo, i said k16 i was closest! czubek [9k\]: it was worth waithing for this move!! IGoofy [1d\]: b shall ask for undo billybatts [-\]: seth rogen is here Estrella [4k\]: whoa girl alert mmok: d10 ] ;W[di]C[Ukasuhs [1k\]: lots of ppl said k16 Hello [3k\]: white shall ask, is this what you came up with?! FishGo [3k\]: white c10 b d18 w d2 tsuchigumo [-\]: Whites 4 stones on the right are so strong that they irradiate all of b's potential development on the right side of the board xDragon [15k\]: cristian pop alert ] ;B[cc] ;W[dc]C[mmok: strangely close by white ] ;B[db]C[Estrella [4k\]: a flurry of activity! ] ;W[cd] ;B[bb] ;W[bc] ;B[cb]C[Hello [3k\]: man he looks tall.. mmok: r3 mint [4d\]: ah, now i remember...you were from goodfellas. SunnyD [2d\]: tell B don't overexert himself with the rapid fire moves mmok: or will he use upper aji already? FishGo [3k\]: d2 white comfortable qgo [4k\]: ths gote for black Hello [3k\]: o.o which one is better? white or black in this case? mint [4d\]: it is prime time for L3 mmok: feel probe r3 first Meganoide [2d\]: l3 playable now Senki [2d\]: isn't white behind in territory now? Kenjutsu [2k\]: someone get ready to call 911 or whatever it is in europe leger [1d\]: it's an even game up to now tsuchigumo [-\]: Must say he reminds me of Victor Meldrew ColorCoded: its 112 in europe Maybe5k [4k\]: border of two moyos or an invasion? Adante [1k\]: time for L3? Maybe5k [4k\]: exciting goedeljp [1k\]: q2 mmok: it's.. 10:43 am.. Sebastian [2k\]: still how they call it fuseki? FishGo [3k\]: d2 10 bucks duha: who is c. Pop? mmok: err 46* ] ;W[oq]C[xDragon [15k\]: hes 7d billybatts [-\]: he bluffed mint [4d\]: c pop is a top romanian player EuroGoTV1 [-\]: solaris on kgs Hello [3k\]: everyone puts their hands behind their back ><" i noticed. TakokaT [4k\]: and the invasion ;o duha: tnx mmok: p3 seems odd FishGo [3k\]: oooooo old fashioned Hello [3k\]: maybe i should do that now. TeeSushi [3d\]: n3 just9x9 [-\]: lol next new move for his lesson? Maybe5k [4k\]: nice Meganoide [2d\]: time to drink some coke... FishGo [3k\]: old school move mint [4d\]: the intention is: q4 q2 r2 m3 Senki [2d\]: cristian pop is solaris? jinkidie [16k\]: white getting impatient? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes Kenjutsu [2k\]: damnit....why alex do this Maybe5k [4k\]: alex always play the most high pressure move Kenjutsu [2k\]: now we gotta wait another 30 mins Meganoide [2d\]: lol ken mcw85 [7k\]: W a little behind in territory. Hello [3k\]: looks hard o.o i never seen this played before SunnyD [2d\]: P3????? why??? B is going think 40 mins now goedeljp [1k\]: q3 goingonow [16k\]: hilarious Hello [3k\]: when the time end white shall resign :o xDragon [15k\]: whenm alex played that p16 yesterday, his opponent, not a slow player, prob took like 10-15 min to make next move EuroGoTV2 [-\]: black moved already :P mmok: little behind is just one sente move.. Meganoide [2d\]: wow Kenjutsu [2k\]: he might seriously pop a vein now Meganoide [2d\]: fast FishGo [3k\]: just a probe perhaps mcw85 [7k\]: 2:18 1:52 EuroGoTV2 [-\]: fast calculator ] ;B[mq]C[Hello [3k\]: oo geez Kenjutsu [2k\]: omg Meganoide [2d\]: this is agressive Fredrik [-\]: easy game for w ] ;W[pp]C[Kenjutsu [2k\]: i think he short-circuited.... Hello [3k\]: easy game? o.o mint [4d\]: cool choice, i thought b was a boring turtle and so would play boring move. mcw85 [7k\]: W likes these attachments. ] ;B[qq]C[billybatts [-\]: the stones ready Hello [3k\]: was white aiming for corner? fancyfood [1d\]: eurogo can you ask zhang yanqi to spectate this game? mcw85 [7k\]: Corner or side. Hello [3k\]: i can't read stuff like this ><" EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ladder good for black mmok: p5 mcw85 [7k\]: Can you ask her to dance? :-) goedeljp [1k\]: p6 Ukasuhs [1k\]: w cant ladder atm ] ;W[op] ;B[qp]C[mmok: wow go players really disappoint me with that topic FishGo [3k\]: n3 a bit too much billybatts [-\]: this looks like tetris mmok: anything female, lets jump on her! Dumbledore [11k?\]: alexandre dinerchtein is my hero mmok: ridiculous Fredrik [-\]: p4 look heavy Fredrik [-\]: normal move is n4 Hello [3k\]: is the broadcast reallly slow or something? im like way behind mcw85 [7k\]: I thought Merlin was? scurge [5d\]: wow such a lucky pairing :) that's good ! TeeSushi [3d\]: well i called n3 ... cant be good ^^ ColorCoded: i counted 15 secs lag ] ;W[on]C[mint [4d\]: purple shirt's pretty cool Hello [3k\]: i see. xDragon [15k\]: i think if you refresh itll catch up mcw85 [7k\]: Mmok: Yanqi is exactly my type. :-/ Hello [3k\]: i like his shirt! mmok: d2 FishGo [3k\]: L3 painful for b now Hello [3k\]: yanqi is mines :o Dumbledore [11k?\]: i think geert is in the lead mcw85 [7k\]: Geert is sightly ahead. mint [4d\]: n5 Hello [3k\]: kill that n3 stone! Kenjutsu [2k\]: d2 or somewhere around c8 is nice jewel [1k\]: w has komi Ukasuhs [1k\]: ya b can just n5 to avoid l3 SunnyD [2d\]: L4 Dumbledore [11k?\]: p8 mmok: l4 should make black cry goedeljp [1k\]: d7 Dumbledore [11k?\]: p8 will kill white mmok: ;p; FishGo [3k\]: n5 doesn't completely elminate l3 mmok: lol* just9x9 [-\]: oh, b answered fast? kiddai [7k\]: lol mmok: nothing eliminates l3 Maybe5k [4k\]: kyus always think of killing only FishGo [3k\]: L3 does FishGo [3k\]: lol rkan: L3 eliminate l3 Maybe5k [4k\]: what happened to strategy? mmok: so just d2 SunnyD [2d\]: p8 kills white, but who killed Harry Potter? mint [4d\]: Snape Estrella [4k\]: dumbledore duha: spiderman Hilarius [2k\]: Maybe5k: I don't think of killing only xDragon [15k\]: jk rowling Dumbledore [11k?\]: dumbledore mmok: d2, l3, n5, l5, q8 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i did goingonow [16k\]: dumbledore is dead justatry [1k\]: chuck norris xDragon [15k\]: you monster Maybe5k [4k\]: u didnt think. u killed, hilarius Estrella [4k\]: dumbledore killed harry potter in the ballroom with the candlestick EuroGoTV1 [-\]: he stole my name Hello [3k\]: i beat chucknorris in go :o Kyuss [1k\]: belive me, the one's that think of strength of groups (gifhting) the most, are dans billybatts [-\]: i think i just saw a female Lebron [?\]: http://picasaweb.google.com/gocongress2009/Day3#5363861271769292242 picture of the camera! Dumbledore [11k?\]: p8!!! justatry [1k\]: and you are 3k. Hello [3k\]: xD fancyfood [1d\]: omg no way billybatts [-\]: zomg mint [4d\]: guy on left has legs paler than a vampire fancyfood [1d\]: missed it >< jinkidie [16k\]: I was gonna have a game with Chuck Norris, but all my stones ran away. Hello [3k\]: 3 is definitely higher than 1 Maybe5k [4k\]: R7 of course billybatts [-\]: i wish austin powers would come back to watch Dumbledore [11k?\]: p8 is aggressive and is what we all want to see mint [4d\]: p8 is unreasonable fancyfood [1d\]: that coke is looking realy warm Maybe5k [4k\]: p8 no good mint [4d\]: n5 n5 n5 Hello [3k\]: another ddr session finished IGoofy [1d\]: n3 looks misplaced now kiddai [7k\]: no way with p8 Kyuss [1k\]: mint, r7 or n5 ? OrangeRage [4k\]: you cant play n5 three times mint karyant [2k\]: m4 Dumbledore [11k?\]: black wins with p8 mint [4d\]: n5 OrangeRage [4k\]: XD Koukkaaja [2d\]: I've n5 more than three times cb22 [7k\]: o5 Hello [3k\]: m4 :o x.x ftroiset [2d\]: n6 is probably simplest deft [3d\]: N5 is nice SunnyD [2d\]: you should do HD next year, so we can see the veins better cb22 [7k\]: lol Hello [3k\]: lol he walked like a penguin chro [8k\]: q7? ekku [-\]: i'd play m5 instead of n5 mcw85 [7k\]: This should be rotoscoped next year. WonderGoma [4k\]: please, respect the penguins ! Hello [3k\]: hahah mint [4d\]: needs some Korean Starcraft commentators to hype up the game. jinkidie [16k\]: don't be vulgar mcw Stonelord [12k\]: ерун цшдд сщтйгук еру цщкдв! Estrella [4k\]: bunkerrr-uuuuuu Stonelord [12k\]: they will conquer the world! pmrktp: playguuuu Dumbledore [11k?\]: p8 would be very interesting goedeljp [1k\]: d10 Ukasuhs [1k\]: p8 would be terrible' Dumbledore [11k?\]: no mcw85 [7k\]: Interesting how? mint [4d\]: context for pmrktp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpuv7VPb2rA jinkidie [16k\]: Wll I and my Mammoth Intellect are off to 7-11 for some of that coke. You may now enjoy 10 minutes' peace. :) ColorCoded: geez, mayby i should jsut paly a random game while he thinks FishGo [3k\]: Q5 JohnSmith [1k\]: All today games are so peaceful... billybatts [-\]: dont go Hello [3k\]: ooooo Ukasuhs [1k\]: not terrible how? fancyfood [1d\]: o_o Dumbledore [11k?\]: it will attack whites group Hello [3k\]: xD fancyfood [1d\]: nooo Hello [3k\]: back off mcw85 [7k\]: Now i t won't. Nemerid [-\]: i don't like to play this sort of games Ukasuhs [1k\]: how? MoonCrash [5k\]: m5? Stonelord [12k\]: Q8 i think mcw85 [7k\]: it will make white strong as he attacks that stupid stone. Nemerid [-\]: it is not easy to find the right move Dumbledore [11k?\]: and split in two goedeljp [1k\]: c9 Hello [3k\]: m4 do itt SunnyD [2d\]: M15!! Stonelord [12k\]: A1 xDDD Ukasuhs [1k\]: but the groups have to be weak to attack them Hello [3k\]: he's too close to geert! Dumbledore [11k?\]: they are weak Hello [3k\]: lol fancyfood [1d\]: aww kukulis4 [2d\]: black r7 looks very natural WonderGoma [4k\]: play P6 offline and see if you like it Hello [3k\]: she left :[ fancyfood [1d\]: :( EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 goingonow [16k\]: r8 Ukasuhs [1k\]: and p8 itself would be the weakest FishGo [3k\]: r7 a bit slow WonderGoma [4k\]: click Options View Offline and try it FishGo [3k\]: b r7 white d2 Syptryn [3d\]: N-5 Nemerid [-\]: R7 is natural, but may be slow chro [8k\]: q7 faster Syptryn [3d\]: Q-7 kinda sad mint [4d\]: Geert is an Analyst for a Netherlands bank...it's only natural he over-analyzes this board. Estrella [4k\]: game coming up on the 1hr mark and b has used.. 45 minutes of that time? DrZoom [5k\]: p2 Dumbledore [11k?\]: after playing p8 offline i must say that it is a great move WonderGoma [4k\]: Q6 maybe be or Q7 OrangeRage [4k\]: lol Nemerid [-\]: q7 make w stronger mcw85 [7k\]: ... Hello [3k\]: move to the game across! Hello [3k\]: i don't want to watch him think Ukasuhs [1k\]: you are 11k... i dont trust your play. im sorry for being so blunt xDragon [15k\]: dumbledore most likely youre playing bad variations OrangeRage [4k\]: m15 WonderGoma [4k\]: Q6 is ideal for W so maybe B Q6 does something good ] ;B[qm]C[Hello [3k\]: oo Corbier [7k\]: pfiou WonderGoma [4k\]: no :-) Syptryn [3d\]: L-3 Hello [3k\]: he made his decision! goingonow [16k\]: black always makes slow extensions Hello [3k\]: now alex shall run in Hello [3k\]: oo Syptryn [3d\]: L-3 chro [8k\]: p8 Meganoide [2d\]: uhm this is greedy SunnyD [2d\]: how does W know to come back!???!! Nemerid [-\]: l3, perhaps, but it is a bit risky Syptryn [3d\]: black kinda weak there Hello [3k\]: he's a pro, he can sense it SunnyD [2d\]: he is clearly following the game online Michel1986 [5k\]: ????? Syptryn [3d\]: so should be okay SunnyD [2d\]: he is reading the comments Dumbledore [11k?\]: p8 would have been better Michel1986 [5k\]: Heal the world no1 555 WonderGoma [4k\]: M4 SunnyD [2d\]: alex, please ignore any previous jokes about your shirt mcw85 [7k\]: No, it wouldn't have. ] ;W[dr]C[FishGo [3k\]: d2 Hello [3k\]: quit making noises. geert doesn't like it! FishGo [3k\]: I called it first Nemerid [-\]: ah ah good Syptryn [3d\]: interesting mint [4d\]: Q8 is kind of attractive Erikosatou [7k\]: n5 is big ? Nemerid [-\]: the biggest place on the board Ukasuhs [1k\]: now b needs n5 or l4 or l3 ect Meganoide [2d\]: eheh d2 so calm fatihsulak [2d\]: so now white is leading on territory Dumbledore [11k?\]: now p 8!!!!!!! FishGo [3k\]: d2 is very big ] ;B[mo]C[Nemerid [-\]: d2 is huge Erikosatou [7k\]: yes Dumbledore [11k?\]: dang... p8would have killed Estrella [4k\]: the ref WonderGoma [4k\]: FishGo stop telling the pros where to play billybatts [-\]: the referee is here FishGo [3k\]: only one pro here WonderGoma [4k\]: :_) Hello [3k\]: xD he loooks cool with his sash ftroiset [2d\]: but n5 was urgent... mint [4d\]: let's admit it, the sashes for refs and pros are a 20k mistake at the EGC Meganoide [2d\]: w will tenuki again to offer a spectacula fight like yesterday? mcw85 [7k\]: No way. Meganoide [2d\]: eheh Dumbledore [11k?\]: L9!!! mcw85 [7k\]: I wish I had a sash to wear around. billybatts [-\]: move the camera up please Hello [3k\]: UP Hello [3k\]: UP Hello [3k\]: is she cute :o Kenjutsu [2k\]: UP!!! mcw85 [7k\]: Why not k10? billybatts [-\]: austins back Hello [3k\]: xD billybatts [-\]: hahaha fancyfood [1d\]: lol Dumbledore [11k?\]: l9 is the divine move SunnyD [2d\]: L3! Hello [3k\]: wrong way! Kenjutsu [2k\]: omg ] ;W[pl]C[Kenjutsu [2k\]: noooooooo fancyfood [1d\]: i think even as 7d we would get killed in this tourn FishGo [3k\]: about even on board now FishGo [3k\]: but white has komi qgo [4k\]: push and cut! WonderGoma [4k\]: W has 2 iron bars Hello [3k\]: now the korean match looks slow WonderGoma [4k\]: thats the Iron courtain ! billybatts [-\]: man those are the best pants ever Nemerid [-\]: cut is what w wants :) Hello [3k\]: especially with that matching belt mint [4d\]: C9 just9x9 [-\]: d10 for some action now Kenjutsu [2k\]: T_T...eurogo...u evil.... qgo [4k\]: push at q 7 and then cut at p 8 ftroiset [2d\]: p7 WonderGoma [4k\]: russians cant get rid of the old habits :-) mcw85 [7k\]: D10 is breakfast move. ] ;B[ck]C[just9x9 [-\]: good call mint mint [4d\]: w00t mcw85 [7k\]: What old habits? Dumbledore [11k?\]: g5 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 Syptryn [3d\]: woa expat [4d?\]: i wonder why c9 not at d9 Dumbledore [11k?\]: g5= good move mcw85 [7k\]: G5 is GREAT move. Hello [3k\]: he wants in mcw85 [7k\]: ... Syptryn [3d\]: D-9 is more safe Dumbledore [11k?\]: hey for once i called a move someone else agrees with :P Syptryn [3d\]: guess black wants to more tierroty off white ] ;W[ci]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Denied. Syptryn [3d\]: that looks slow goedeljp [1k\]: w d9, b d10, ladder for b Hello [3k\]: runnn ftroiset [2d\]: c7 Ukasuhs [1k\]: slow but basically sente mint [4d\]: jump Adante [1k\]: slow but solid, blacks doesn't have much choice other than to jump out Syptryn [3d\]: C-7 attach expat [4d?\]: w is going to ruin the bottom tsuchigumo [-\]: duh?! Kenjutsu [2k\]: coke zero....taste like coke but zero calories EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i think blach has the better position, but i am weak Kantid [4k\]: and W get sente to invade on top ^_^ Syptryn [3d\]: is another option just9x9 [-\]: how to see the viedeo feed? i click on the link, then i log in, then i need to click again and get logged out? Erikosatou [7k\]: m16 DrH0use [2d\]: c7 YusufS [2k\]: this game is very aesthetically pleasing, elegant shapes ^_^ EuroGoTV1 [-\]: logged out? mcw85 [7k\]: I agree. tsuchigumo [-\]: oooh just9x9 [-\]: yes Dumbledore [11k?\]: e8 Syptryn [3d\]: D-7 also EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hmm Adante [1k\]: basic shape game Hello [3k\]: d7 o.o Adante [1k\]: good to learn with Mem0r3x [1k\]: b6 mint [4d\]: pretty boring imo, where is the fist brawl? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: should not be Nemerid [-\]: I begin to like w position even if black has more territory expat [4d?\]: wait until w jumpts into the bottom or top area, mint :P qgo [4k\]: Geert winning this one would be a sensation FishGo [3k\]: black c7 white d7 black a bit in pain expat [4d?\]: i like white too chro [8k\]: c7-d7-c8-e9, black group is dead? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: try again pls just9x9 [-\]: p just9x9 [-\]: ok hylie [4d\]: white has more or less money in the bank and komi. hylie [4d\]: the burden to utilize thickness is on black. nosebleed [2k\]: all w positions are solid, b has some invasion points still just9x9 [-\]: same again, euro mint [4d\]: no...not everything is solid on white's part mint [4d\]: the p7 cut can become burden later Kenjutsu [2k\]: they should hav ea line...like don't get so close to the board...its distracting to people Dumbledore [11k?\]: q7 isn't solid nosebleed [2k\]: I dont see any weaknesses Erikosatou [7k\]: k11 ? Stonelord [12k\]: E9 ftroiset [2d\]: p7 is a permanent problem nosebleed [2k\]: yes thats the only issue i see nosebleed [2k\]: the possible weak group on bottom side FishGo [3k\]: it's safe to say if both plays normally from now white will win quite comforably Dumbledore [11k?\]: no ftroiset [2d\]: but it is a major problem golgo13 [12k\]: hmmm looks like a reasonable game so far Dumbledore [11k?\]: black has big territory on top tsuchigumo [-\]: disagree its easy win Hello [3k\]: c9 shall die mcw85 [7k\]: I don't see either side as having a clear advantage Nemerid [-\]: the top is not so big hylie [4d\]: w has an invasion point at the top and at the bottom Koukkaaja [2d\]: top is not territory yet nosebleed [2k\]: neither is the bottom dxxd [-\]: top is open...yet not good formation golgo13 [12k\]: L17? Hello [3k\]: i want 20000 dollars :[ dib [2k\]: b6 interesting tsuchigumo [-\]: sabaki time Adante [1k\]: what kind of slow move is required to seal the top, K17? Stonelord [12k\]: i want 20000000000 угкщ Stonelord [12k\]: euro Dumbledore [11k?\]: c10 Sabacc [4k\]: c7 ! Stonelord [12k\]: 8) nosebleed [2k\]: m16 hylie [4d\]: black does not have a big territory at the top. it's just a framework. awers [2d\]: c7 xunn: e4 Hello [3k\]: was c7 good? o.o Dumbledore [11k?\]: c10 cb22 [7k\]: W south west group 11point + upper west 12 + east side 12 points =35 ? tonynogo [4k?\]: black played c7 FishGo [3k\]: white 14 points on right side, 15 bottom left, 6 points left FishGo [3k\]: 35 Hello [3k\]: tell him to look at the camera and wave! tsuchigumo [-\]: cool shirt got a better position, but many a slip.... nosebleed [2k\]: I like f5 here Dumbledore [11k?\]: black f8, nice and light mcw85 [7k\]: EGTV: c7 Hello [3k\]: d6 Hello [3k\]: :o ] ;B[cm]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: it always seems that white is making slow moves, but after that still has more points thant black ;) FishGo [3k\]: black 12 lower right, about 10 upper left, 7 upper right ftroiset [2d\]: Fishgo, at this stage, there is almost no sure tgerritory yet... FishGo [3k\]: 29 ] ;W[dn]C[tonynogo [4k?\]: D6 ] ;B[bn] ;W[bo]C[Hello [3k\]: i win :\] ] ;B[ek]C[ftroiset [2d\]: I did too Estrella [4k\]: b's habit of taking the stone out before he plays is a little annoying TakokaT [4k\]: ? thats quite common jinkidie [16k\]: black is not worried about w b7? Dumbledore [11k?\]: yea Hello [3k\]: eek, how troublesome mcw85 [7k\]: Why? Adante [1k\]: it's annoying? why's that Hello [3k\]: i like his sitting position, it's like a child's Estrella [4k\]: ocd kicks in, I want to put it back in the goke Dumbledore [11k?\]: b7 is what black wants jinkidie Lebron [?\]: is white kneeling? ColorCoded: theres a proverb for that: "Those who think with a stone in their hand never archieve anything" ColorCoded: or something like that ] ;W[kc]C[golgo13 [12k\]: to put a stone on the board, he will have to take it out of the bowl first? Kantid [4k\]: i always taking stones out of basket and losing them befor playing ;| Adante [1k\]: he's not holding it though ;) Dumbledore [11k?\]: well it's obviously not true Adante [1k\]: just placed it down Dumbledore [11k?\]: because he has achieved a lot golgo13 [12k\]: where do I collect priz!!!! Hello [3k\]: k16 for auto win Dumbledore [11k?\]: m15 zc3k [1k\]: is this semifinal? mcw85 [7k\]: Seventh round out of 10 just9x9 [-\]: k16 would be new as well :) Dumbledore [11k?\]: m15 = death DrH0use [2d\]: l15 golgo13 [12k\]: I have very good instinct for attacking :) Syptryn [3d\]: L-16 white K017 tenka13d [5d\]: j18 Hello [3k\]: i better see k16, chus that'd be awesome >;\] Syptryn [3d\]: L-15 Syptryn [3d\]: white J-17 jinkidie [16k\]: tell why b wants w to play b7 FishGo [3k\]: b l15 w j1 hard to kill DrH0use [2d\]: k18 IMO Adante [1k\]: J18 ftroiset [2d\]: usual attacking move here is m16, but it will not work very well as wis too strong on the right side CardiffGo [2k?\]: Maybe k17? expat [4d?\]: if black j18 he will lose on territory YusufS [2k\]: can we compare counts of solid territory? I count white bottom left corner = 14 pts, white s12 area = 12 points, and white b13 area = 10 points, so white total = 36 pts solid territory, and for black bottom right corner = 16 pts, black q18 area = 8 points, and black top left corner = 8 points so black total =32 points, thus white has an advantage in solid territory of ~4 points. Other counts? Adante [1k\]: hm DrH0use [2d\]: yusuf : zzzzZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz Hello [3k\]: l15 o.o ftroiset [2d\]: so next idea is s17 Sebastian [2k\]: tolstoi TakokaT [4k\]: the game seems so calm Meganoide [2d\]: alex leave the table a lot Dumbledore [11k?\]: u10 Hello [3k\]: because he's playing max unlimited now Sebastian [2k\]: does alex need this win? expat [4d?\]: yusuf you are overcounting a bit HandA [1k\]: texting to Lee Sedol mcw85 [7k\]: I count the same for white. Dumbledore [11k?\]: i'm texting to lee changho Hello [3k\]: i want lee sedol's number :o FishGo [3k\]: Lee sedol is in vaccation golgo13 [12k\]: wow a blind go player! YusufS [2k\]: oh where did I make a mistake expat? Hello [3k\]: he can give me go tips over text Syptryn [3d\]: Yusud Missed black bot expat [4d?\]: counting the top right as 8 points might be ambitious right now goal3k [1d?\]: thats what i wanted to ask...are there good blind go players? must be incredibly hard expat [4d?\]: better to count everything minimally ZeroCool [3k\]: incomming message: "Do your L&D problems! - YS expat [4d?\]: for both sides Hello [3k\]: oo the board 2 looks scary xD TakokaT [4k\]: really? top right even less than 8? O_O YusufS [2k\]: ah ok, and is black bottom solid territory yet? DrH0use [2d\]: no expat [4d?\]: w has an invasion point at h3 mcw85 [7k\]: I get it even, yusuf. DrH0use [2d\]: or l3 Syptryn [3d\]: but part of bot will be sloid regardless expat [4d?\]: i count w 5 points ahead of black answers at j18 expat [4d?\]: if* Dumbledore [11k?\]: i just got a text from cho u "マラソン五輪代表" ftroiset [2d\]: how do you count s17? tapir [1d?\]: yusuf actually only counted the bottom right corner and 0 for the bottom group FishGo [3k\]: N3 and N5 not so effective expat [4d?\]: i was counting s17 as w sente after this invasion golgo13 [12k\]: i just saw a dwarf walking by pmrktp: anyone else thinks game is boring? Dumbledore [11k?\]: NO expat [4d?\]: hard to say, but probable, no? YusufS [2k\]: hmm I still count white slightly ahead mcw85 Hello [3k\]: i'm here to make it fun Hello [3k\]: :o YusufS [2k\]: I don't think the game is boring, I think it is elegant =) Cassis0 [5d\]: yes pmrktp :) ftroiset [2d\]: absurd : b can (and perhaps must) play s17 immediately himself EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 Nemerid [-\]: the fight has just begun, so this game will be more interesting mcw85 [7k\]: It's close Yusuf. Dumbledore [11k?\]: i don't think the game is boring or elegant, i think it's sexy Hello [3k\]: watch the koreans! Hello [3k\]: <<< mcw85 [7k\]: Reagardless. TakokaT [4k\]: game only boring because it's a calm game and most people like to see big groups get killed ;) expat [4d?\]: ftroiset are you strong enough to call it absurd? :) YusufS [2k\]: yes close indeed expat [4d?\]: it's true that he might want to play it ftroiset [2d\]: yeds : to call the analysis absurd, assuming b will answer locally, and not play s17 himself ftroiset [2d\]: (anyway, I am not so weak :-)) Estrella [4k\]: how much time is b down to? Dumbledore [11k?\]: n12 Hello [3k\]: i wish i was there :[ YusufS [2k\]: is j17 a better reply than k17 here for black? Hello [3k\]: i would wave to all my fans in kgs jinkidie [16k\]: My counts are more in line with SE :( Adante [1k\]: you're just strengthly challenged ftroiset tapir [1d?\]: j17, l15, s17 or sth. to this end? Dumbledore [11k?\]: l19 jinkidie [16k\]: /wave ftroiset [2d\]: for instance, k17, l16 or 15, s17 is a prefectluy good sequence Hello [3k\]: lol xD ] ;B[ic]C[Syptryn [3d\]: omg Syptryn [3d\]: so slow Hello [3k\]: watch geert give the angry stare at one of them Dumbledore [11k?\]: j17 is lame... he stole alexandre's move expat [4d?\]: what an absurd move :P Meganoide [2d\]: this game is a bit boring 4now Wizze [1d\]: both players left the board =) lemming [-\]: omg product placement oOiOo [1d\]: it is totally boring Adante [1k\]: no one at the board now, time for 2 strangers to take it over and put speed in the game Lebron [?\]: what was on his glutamus maximus Syptryn [3d\]: this move so slow just9x9 [-\]: lol adante, lets go ftroiset [2d\]: no, its ok : w ger$ts out, then s17; about same idea YusufS [2k\]: wow, black has an embarrassing pant stain O.o Syptryn [3d\]: black can't afford this Hello [3k\]: hahah i saw! ftroiset [2d\]: and of course, there is still thev p7 problem goingonow [16k\]: you spelled glutamus maximus wrong Hello [3k\]: his undies are showing just9x9 [-\]: k17 l16 let w h17, maybe b disliked that expat [4d?\]: if b plays s17 after w jumps, w will take control of this game expat [4d?\]: he will attack him and destroy the bottom Cassis0 [5d\]: l3 looks nice Dumbledore [11k?\]: why is the camera black? Hello [3k\]: OOO EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ????? fancyfood [1d\]: :D Hello [3k\]: xD EuroGoTV1 [-\]: black? Dumbledore [11k?\]: i don't see anything but darkness from the camera sleepygirl: it's a nice color for a camera Cassis0 [5d\]: I dont see the camera Hello [3k\]: fancy knows what im talking about! fancyfood [1d\]: lol tapir [1d?\]: @expat anything else black can do after white jumps out? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i see a girl golgo13 [12k\]: look a female! Cassis0 [5d\]: only a goban fancyfood [1d\]: pft Hello [3k\]: her hair is crazy.. fancyfood [1d\]: low lvl Hello [3k\]: hahah agreed! tenka13d [5d\]: l15 s17 ? I think b is easy to win. expat [4d?\]: tapir: hard to say, s17 is still a good move mcw85 [7k\]: Copycat move. ] ;W[mc]C[fancyfood [1d\]: need 6d Dumbledore [11k?\]: ok it works now YusufS [2k\]: O.o golgo13 [12k\]: the other board is more exiting expat [4d?\]: well, it's academic now haha mcw85 [7k\]: This looks familiar. Adante [1k\]: I knew that move would follow Dumbledore [11k?\]: did alexandre's opponent leave? Adante [1k\]: first b copies w, now w copies b jewel [1k\]: will it be ko? Hello [3k\]: it's definitely a teaching game Estrella [4k\]: foul play by w YusufS [2k\]: what is the point of this attachment? isn't better to jump out? justatry [1k\]: he moved the stones ! justatry [1k\]: :p jinkidie [16k\]: 16k counts: b+5 points Hello [3k\]: he saw him move it! he looks nervous now sleepygirl: 16 doesn't know how to count fancyfood [1d\]: se says b+15ish sleepygirl: 16k* fancyfood [1d\]: 11.5 Dumbledore [11k?\]: why is there nobody at the board Hello [3k\]: watch the koreans! Cassis0 [5d\]: still weaknesses at b position on south Dumbledore [11k?\]: ugh, now alexandre walked away Hello [3k\]: <<< expat [4d?\]: 7d does not need to be at the board expat [4d?\]: he is standing at the window, reading the game golgo13 [12k\]: yeah the other board is more interesting expat [4d?\]: :P sleepygirl: they don't enough rooms, they are playing in a kitchen mcw85 [7k\]: Someone should tell Alex about wearing socks with sandles... Adante [1k\]: breakfast pays more attention to board 2 than his own jinkidie [16k\]: advanced players make moves by telkinesis. They don't need to be at the board. Hello [3k\]: white is gonna die! Dumbledore [11k?\]: howcome it switched boards now???? Dumbledore [11k?\]: i wanted to watch this match EuroGoTV1 [-\]: magic Stonelord [12k\]: M15 Hello [3k\]: jun sang is in super trouble Dumbledore [11k?\]: close ups of there faces hah ] ;B[nd]C[Syptryn [3d\]: lol Syptryn [3d\]: this is sad hfghgh: l15)))) Ukasuhs [1k\]: its a bit late for mirror-go Hello [3k\]: i want those boards.. and stones included Dumbledore [11k?\]: ewww the one in green is really ugly hfghgh: O18 then L15)) ] ;W[md]C[Hello [3k\]: he looks like he's crying.. Hello [3k\]: x.x just9x9 [-\]: w doesnt mirror Vondel [2k\]: whats the humor ? Dumbledore [11k?\]: why did geert and alexander just laugh? Hello [3k\]: what are they laughing about! golgo13 [12k\]: who was she? jinkidie [16k\]: flirting fancyfood [1d\]: alex told a knock knock joke Hello [3k\]: i don't want laughter! I WANT WARCRY tapir [1d?\]: black can't hane can he? sensemaker [4d\]: there are only 4 boards for EuroGo? Hello [3k\]: how disturbing Maybe5k [4k\]: alex looks so relax in this game compared to yesterday Hello [3k\]: get off teh screen! jinkidie [16k\]: ph brother lemming [-\]: haha xD mcw85 [7k\]: If this game were any more peaceful they would be toking. Dumbledore [11k?\]: omg.... this whole leaving the board thing is driving me crazy jinkidie [16k\]: nobody wants the centre? Maybe5k [4k\]: makes geert looks dumb for thinking so long. psychology warfare jinkidie [16k\]: you'd think tengen was radioactive mcw85 [7k\]: What's in the center? golgo13 [12k\]: I just noticed.... there is inverse correlation between drink container size and how deed the player in trouble jinkidie [16k\]: ponts, last I heard Hello [3k\]: f6 :o woidler [6k?\]: mcw, no territory! mcw85 [7k\]: I don't see any points in the center, jinkidie [16k\]: b get to centre first he has a 2 move lead lemming [-\]: n15 just9x9 [-\]: now what? s17 or o14? YusufS [2k\]: hane! Hello [3k\]: that korean gave him motivation to make a move! qgo [4k\]: L 15 Dumbledore [11k?\]: lol did anyone else think that referee is just that for the free doughnuts? ] ;B[me]C[tou [?\]: what exactly does the referee do anyways? ] ;W[le]C[mcw85 [7k\]: There referee. Mem0r3x [1k\]: m14 Hello [3k\]: failing at his job abak [2k\]: double hane! k43r [1k\]: tou: he just is. YusufS [2k\]: can black double hane here? woidler [6k?\]: sure legendia [2k\]: he can but legendia [2k\]: hard lol Hello [3k\]: punish Maybe5k [4k\]: no double hane Kenjutsu [2k\]: hahaha, some dude waved at the camera fancyfood [1d\]: *waves back* gobanban [4k\]: he will.... in 20mn sensemaker [4d\]: i once did a quadruple hane Hello [3k\]: bet you got double atari :o ] ;B[lf]C[fancyfood [1d\]: thats connect four dude mcw85 [7k\]: Yose soon? legendia [2k\]: oh jinkidie [16k\]: woohooo Dumbledore [11k?\]: GO FOR THE KILL! Maybe5k [4k\]: black in trouble ] ;W[ke]C[Hello [3k\]: fast! abak [2k\]: l14 abak [2k\]: ) woidler [6k?\]: ohhhhh.. Dumbledore [11k?\]: o14 hylie [4d\]: no way, yose tapir [1d?\]: n14? k43r [1k\]: l14~!! YusufS [2k\]: at least 1 more fight after this on bottom mcw85, so yose is a ways yet mcw85 [7k\]: Ahh, true. Hello [3k\]: cokee ] ;B[mf]C[Hello [3k\]: that sweet sound when you open it :\] Kenjutsu [2k\]: he should drink coke Kenjutsu [2k\]: coke zero ain't no coke Maybe5k [4k\]: black permited the "go seigen group" Wizzos [2k\]: true YusufS [2k\]: now the game looks to be in black's favor Maybe5k [4k\]: he is done for. Dumbledore [11k?\]: WHITE IS DEAD Hello [3k\]: gasp* he bailed goingonow [16k\]: white can escape Wizzos [2k\]: drinking zero coke is like playing go with green against red mcw85 [7k\]: W dead everywhere. YusufS [2k\]: yesh but black will gain from the attack goingonow ZeroCool [3k\]: w can always play m18 - or run Mem0r3x [1k\]: l14 j13 Dumbledore [11k?\]: white is a disgrace to 3p's Newstyle [5k\]: why white started invasion if he already had a lead in this game? rkan: W rock solid quite anywhere.. Meganoide [2d\]: actually he's not gaining that much Maybe5k [4k\]: thousand dollar turn Dumbledore [11k?\]: geert is balding Mem0r3x [1k\]: e9 still needs some support. Maybe5k [4k\]: cant let black be superior in the center YusufS [2k\]: well black will at least gain some power in the center mcw85 [7k\]: Ddore: Who are you to judge a pro? hylie [4d\]: 11ks should not say stuff like "not a real pro" :) YusufS [2k\]: indeed Lacrimosa [1d\]: dumbledore is a disgrace to 11 kyus Corbier [7k\]: ^^ Kare [-\]: well, he's not a real 11k.. lemming [-\]: dumbledore joined my ignore list :) Adante [1k\]: dumbledore isn't very useful at kibitz MoonCrash [5k\]: can someone provide video link? Adante [1k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 ] ;W[kq]C[hylie [4d\]: the first four letters of his nick suffice kiddai [7k\]: nah, i'd say a disgrace for being a go player on kgs now MoonCrash [5k\]: thx abak [2k\]: wow mcw85 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 Mem0r3x [1k\]: :o Dumbledore [11k?\]: WOWOWOWOWOW Maybe5k [4k\]: M4, H3 FishGo [3k\]: white wants to end this game Dumbledore [11k?\]: white is overambitious and will pay for it! abak [2k\]: its spirit JohnSmith [1k\]: White's aiming for a ko! jinkidie [16k\]: something like this had to happen Mem0r3x [1k\]: Censored... Dumbledore [11k?\]: white has just secured his loss jinkidie [16k\]: at worst he'll squirt into centre like toothpaste legendia [2k\]: lol YusufS [2k\]: not over ambitious dumble, white has n2 to connet below or jump out at l5 to split Maybe5k [4k\]: come on. is standard reply. why think so long? monobrow [7k\]: dd is mentally underprivileged and we're all paying for it Dumbledore [11k?\]: black +81.5 golgo13 [12k\]: can L3 connect wiht p3 group? legendia [2k\]: how a 11k could speak xD ww [?\]: does b play on kgs with some acc dxxd [-\]: john, what ko? Wizzos [2k\]: there is no standard replies at go tapir [1d?\]: m4? FishGo [3k\]: b has little choice but to kill l3 stone ZeroCool [3k\]: what else there is for b than l4? Maybe5k [4k\]: in this position there is only one move. M4 mcw85 [7k\]: This seems very hard for B to answer. Nemerid [-\]: why a 11k couldn't give his opinion ? MOCbKA [1d\]: h3 is aim of W mcw85 [7k\]: I think white solid play was aiming at this fight the whole game. hylie [4d\]: l3 might be some kind of a decoy or a probe Maybe5k [4k\]: yea Maybe5k [4k\]: M4, H3 Adante [1k\]: J3 maybe? Corbier [7k\]: yeah he can but not by insulting others Hiropro [7k\]: no kiddai [7k\]: but j3 seems heavy Meganoide [2d\]: i agree hylie FishGo [3k\]: k4 zc3k [1k\]: very sore legendia [2k\]: very hard to answer Hanezeki [2k\]: difference between solid and heavy Meganoide [2d\]: it's a probe MoonCrash [5k\]: L4, take outside? golgo13 [12k\]: i think containment is the answer... should prevent spreading to H3 area jinkidie [16k\]: pretty cool if he throws in 1 and b has to spend 4 dealing with it DonGOleone [2k\]: how are the times? MOCbKA [1d\]: anyway W escapes and destroys B territiry Wizzos [2k\]: m4? Dumbledore [11k?\]: wow geert is fat, drinking an entire 1 liter Hiropro [7k\]: N7 Wizzos [2k\]: m4 k4 k5 j3 l4 k3 h4 ? MOCbKA [1d\]: W head suerly Maybe5k [4k\]: cute girl Jadeite [?\]: Dumbledore, Is it national talk chit day today? because I wasn't aware Sakeus [-\]: ooo mcw85 [7k\]: Jade: Ignore him. Sakeus [-\]: 1:14 mcw85 [7k\]: Censor* MOCbKA [1d\]: uuu? Adante [1k\]: time 1:13 vs 2:00 Jadeite [?\]: :) Kenjutsu [2k\]: wow, b almost used 1 more hour than white zc3k [1k\]: K14 kiddai [7k\]: u can always censor him :) mcw85 [7k\]: 2:03 1:14 Kenjutsu [2k\]: both started at 2:30 right? mcw85 [7k\]: Yes. Kenjutsu [2k\]: omg... Sebastian [2k\]: we need some javapower over here^^ Kenjutsu [2k\]: hahahaha Dumbledore [11k?\]: m4, j2, h3, h2, g2, m2, n2 MOCbKA [1d\]: more tme - more problems Adante [1k\]: Geert likes to overthink his thinking golgo13 [12k\]: K4 Sebastian [2k\]: its like marriage Maybe5k [4k\]: there is nothing to think, geert Dumbledore [11k?\]: shut up Maybe5k [4k\]: cute guy! goingonow [16k\]: black is going to lose if he doesnt start thinking faster soon he will be forced to move faster MOCbKA [1d\]: l3 m.b. best reply YusufS [2k\]: that white formation would die dumbledore, so white j2 at h3 is better Maybe5k [4k\]: r they married to hug like that? Sakeus [-\]: some smoke coming from his head Dumbledore [11k?\]: did that guy and girl just go in the backroom to get it on? HandA [1k\]: yes Sebastian [2k\]: no YusufS [2k\]: ... Maybe5k [4k\]: alex pretends to be a spectator RyuuGan [3k\]: they do what they want... RyuuGan [3k\]: :) Sebastian [2k\]: he does it all the time golgo13 [12k\]: k4 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i am looking for my ban-button.... Sebastian [2k\]: multiban Corbier [7k\]: for ? Sakeus [-\]: :) Dumbledore [11k?\]: banning who? Sakeus [-\]: alex have already all game in head :) Maybe5k [4k\]: what is he reading? M4, L4? hylie [4d\]: dumbie is on a roll golgo13 [12k\]: k4 l4 l5 m4 m5n4 o4 hylie [4d\]: doing what he does best: being a dumbie Trifero [20k\]: the big bang theory guy! Sebastian [2k\]: 1point guy golgo13 [12k\]: these ppl have atrocious fashon sense randomnes [5k\]: w seems to be leading here? mcw85 [7k\]: That;s Rob van Zeihst 7d. zc3k [1k\]: L4 fight ] ;B[kp]C[randomnes [5k\]: is white leadin ghere? Am [5d\]: white always is leading.. janssensei: Zeijst mcw85 [7k\]: Yes, typo, sorry. CardiffGo [2k?\]: Interesting reply randomnes [5k\]: oh.. 0.o.. LEIBNIZ [3k\]: b looks very divided ] ;W[jq]C[ZeroCool [3k\]: pretty mouch standart Maybe5k [4k\]: its either M4 or L4, so it's L4, what has he been thinking?? MOCbKA [1d\]: W alive Maybe5k [4k\]: if he thinks again now, i am going to shout at him YusufS [2k\]: and white guts out the bottom WonderGoma [4k\]: W is ahead in secured territory? ] ;B[iq]C[Dumbledore [11k?\]: lol nice fanny pack FishGo [3k\]: white lives in gote black cuts at p8 for a last chance WonderGoma [4k\]: please dont use those words ftroiset [2d\]: its a little bit optimistic to think w alive her'e Dumbledore [11k?\]: who, what words? Kyuss [1k\]: n2 possible? oddalot [7k\]: snape kills dumbledore hylie [4d\]: white can still inflict damage to the bottom framework WonderGoma [4k\]: w already damaged the bottom jinkidie [16k\]: hmmm 16k counts dead even golgo13 [12k\]: I guess w can always connect through n2? ftroiset [2d\]: no, n2o2 then? Syptryn [3d\]: n2 dun work deft [3d\]: M4 works WonderGoma [4k\]: B cannot stop W from connecting or getting out Kyuss [1k\]: n2 o2 m2 p2 m4 l5 n4 o3 m3 jinkidie [16k\]: assuming k3 lives small Dumbledore [11k?\]: j2 Syptryn [3d\]: M4 wks Dumbledore [11k?\]: j2, simple but effective Syptryn [3d\]: I think Kirigo: m4 Sebastian [2k\]: w has no nearly no weak groups Senki [2d\]: m4 looks ok but it will make p3 weak ] ;W[lp] ;B[ko]C[ftroiset [2d\]: see? not so easy WonderGoma [4k\]: see not so hard WonderGoma [4k\]: :-) ftroiset [2d\]: next move? goingonow [16k\]: n4??? Kyuss [1k\]: n2 :) Kyuss [1k\]: :P deft [3d\]: N4, what else? Dumbledore [11k?\]: m5 legendia [2k\]: nesspreso Dumbledore [11k?\]: m3 ftroiset [2d\]: perhaps n2, but n4 doesnt work rkan: nespresso Youssev [5d\]: n4 deft [3d\]: n4 m3 o3 rkan: you never find right doubles*_* Youssev [5d\]: of course :) hylie [4d\]: n2 deft [3d\]: B two stones are captured YusufS [2k\]: hmm yeah I like n2 JohnSmith [1k\]: n2 maybe? Kenjutsu [2k\]: pro service??? Dumbledore [11k?\]: geert looks confident Sebastian [2k\]: w has the flow of the game in his hands Toovveak [-\]: n4 Kenjutsu [2k\]: have girl wearing short pants bring u coffee jinkidie [16k\]: wat jinkidie [16k\]: the flow is goin down the drain then WonderGoma [4k\]: W can choose what to discard to get the best part mcw85 [7k\]: That is his girlfriend. pmrktp: n4 m3 o3 l2 and 3 w stones captured Kenjutsu [2k\]: better be Kenjutsu [2k\]: haha just9x9 [-\]: b starts dreaming of center Kenjutsu [2k\]: or else, why become a pro watergun [-\]: .. Kirigo: n4 Dumbledore [11k?\]: geert = my idol deft [3d\]: n4 m3 o3 l2 k2 m2 l1 B is captured gobanban [4k\]: poor geert goingonow [16k\]: hah n4 does work pmrktp: n4 m3 o3 l2 k2 l1 o2 and w is captured Kyuss [1k\]: i think we'll find out soon jinkidie [16k\]: poor geert is gonna kill this invasion ftroiset [2d\]: o3-> o2 first LEIBNIZ [3k\]: N4 looks good to me ftroiset [2d\]: then l2 FishGo [3k\]: 02 sente gobanban [4k\]: dd's idol = poor geert Senki [2d\]: maybe he will play n2 goingonow [16k\]: n4 FishGo [3k\]: anyone reading m3? Hiropro [7k\]: n4 MoonCrash [5k\]: if n4, wont b just m3? ftroiset [2d\]: exact sequence : n4 m3 o3 o2 pZ l2k2m2, ht"en? Hiropro [7k\]: o3 then Draak [1d\]: dinerchtein is wearing this shirt the whole tournament? bah:p ] ;W[mp]C[gargl: no need to play p2 pmrktp: then l1 ftroiset goingonow [16k\]: yes pmrktp: deft is right goingonow [16k\]: n4 Hiropro [7k\]: ) rkan: he has an entire wardrobe of the same t-shirt.. gargl: you can l2 instead LEIBNIZ [3k\]: ummhum Kenjutsu [2k\]: wooo Kenjutsu [2k\]: keep the girls coming! Kenjutsu [2k\]: bring them all here FishGo [3k\]: a ko slavik1 [8k\]: Александр как всегда в форме))))) ] ;B[nq]C[Ranye [9k\]: o4 after m3 is possible? cb22 [7k\]: o3 seems good pmrktp: wow Kirigo: m3 cb22 [7k\]: O4 and P2 miai no ? ] ;W[np] ;B[or]C[Dumbledore [11k?\]: егдав форксанд лексак сегдвформ ] ;W[lq]C[YusufS [2k\]: m3 ends up being captured Ranye, that is why black couldn't ] ;B[in]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Center time. JohnSmith [1k\]: Shouldn't black just resign now? kimball [5d?\]: this cannot be called a success for b Senki [2d\]: how much time left for both players euro Kare [-\]: I blame l4 TeamRocket [3d\]: why should black resign? Finn [2k\]: SE says b+ 64^^ ftroiset [2d\]: close game anyway YusufS [2k\]: lol Hilarius [2k\]: didn't EGC have lunch break during the games too TakokaT [4k\]: w will be worried about P6 getting cut off? Syptryn [3d\]: would L4 at M4 been much better? ] ;W[jb]C[TeamRocket [3d\]: no lunchbreak Syptryn [3d\]: white wins EuroGoTV2 [-\]: lunchbreak on request YusufS [2k\]: yes I think l4 at m4 was better =) Hilarius [2k\]: :) EuroGoTV2 [-\]: with sealed move TeamRocket [3d\]: bah, not for me ;P JohnSmith [1k\]: White already leads on board Hilarius [2k\]: I'll go to next years EGC and if my game gets broadcast online, I'll hold a lunch break, just because I CAN Finn [2k\]: ^^ TeamRocket [3d\]: you can, during you own time that is expat [4d?\]: b still has potential in the centre mcw85 [7k\]: Must both players agree to lunch? EuroGoTV2 [-\]: you can have the clock stopped if both players agree to lunch TeamRocket [3d\]: where does it say that? I should have known earlier.. oddalot [7k\]: if one asks, then you know he is hungry so you won't let him heh kimball [5d?\]: with 2 weak b groups i don't see much territory in the center EuroGoTV2 [-\]: it has been so every go congress I remember Gzperi [2k\]: he'll just get a sandwich then and eat in front of you Hilarius [2k\]: well... Finns are crazy, don't feel weirded out if it changes next year TeamRocket [3d\]: I've never seen it before.. Finn [2k\]: hey^^ about4d: s17 big EuroGoTV2 [-\]: board 2 coming up on feed Dumbledore [11k?\]: P7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just9x9 [-\]: egc 2010 in finland? Momogo [3d\]: yeass EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yes 9x9, in Tampere LEIBNIZ [3k\]: in go one can be both spectator and player just9x9 [-\]: wow, worth a trip oOiOo [1d\]: tenukikette ? jinkidie [16k\]: I just dont see why b played o3 instead of o4 gopro [2k\]: who, is beter right now? Dumbledore [11k?\]: P7 = GAME OVER!!!!! Hilarius [2k\]: just: will be, I live only 150 km from Tampere :P about4d: S17 first choice, by far mcw85 [7k\]: Who designed the banner? Very pretty. WonderGoma [4k\]: bnecause O4 was bad? Vondel [2k\]: :) Vondel [2k\]: :( Vondel [2k\]: I ve already been in tampere Vondel [2k\]: :( ] ;B[jg]C[Momogo [3d\]: finland boring country RyuuGan [3k\]: and what country isn't boring? jinkidie [16k\]: well i cloned it and it prevents connect and escape as far as I can see xushibagua [3k?\]: palestine oddalot [7k\]: iraq? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Ilia Shikshin won of Robert Rehm 5d qgo [4k\]: black going for territory in the centre? WonderGoma [4k\]: look further Momogo [3d\]: hmm mcw85 [7k\]: Congrats, Ilya. jim [6d\]: Ilia lost 3 games already? monobrow [7k\]: n10? jim [6d\]: Ilya RyuuGan [3k\]: well done mcw85 [7k\]: I think he got gipped in the weekend tourney. -_- oddalot [7k\]: I hope catalin and alexandre get to play each other mcw85 [7k\]: Yes, he lost three. just9x9 [-\]: catalin lost to thomas debarre... YusufS [2k\]: poll: how much do you predict black will get in the center? A. 0 pts B. 5+ points C. 10+ pts D. 15+ pts E. 20+ points F. 25+ points Momogo [3d\]: 5p to 5d :S slavik1 [8k\]: j15 mcw85 [7k\]: E. All of the above. oddalot [7k\]: everyone has a bad game just9x9 [-\]: G. -10 points about4d: answer D sleepygirl: G: not enough mcw85 [7k\]: A B C D E F E, I win at the alphabet. Stonelord [12k\]: G! Jadeite [?\]: with two E's >? TakokaT [4k\]: its okay, so does the goban, mcw85 [7k\]: Haha. Stonelord [12k\]: K10! tapir [1d?\]: after k13 black can play j18 in sente i guess. just9x9 [-\]: f11 Senki [2d\]: yeah they forgot about "i" Stonelord [12k\]: K10 only! =) just9x9 [-\]: g17 :) expat [4d?\]: b needs at least 10 in the centre about4d: G6 Ranye [9k\]: g9 is possible? Senki [2d\]: Euro how much time to byo yomi? mcw85 [7k\]: 1min about4d: G9 is not splitting b enough efficently, ranye just9x9 [-\]: byo yomi time is 1min, not 1min to byoyomi jinkidie [16k\]: ok took another look at 04 instead of o3. It seems white can connect under but it cost him the m4-n4 pair of stones. Senki [2d\]: yeah Senki [2d\]: i am interestet how much time do they have left expat [4d?\]: jinki: read it again :) jinkidie [16k\]: am i gettin closer/ gopro [2k\]: how about simply J18 expat [4d?\]: did you clone the game? jinkidie [16k\]: yes slavik1 [8k\]: Саня замышляет недоброе))))))))))))))))) golgo13 [12k\]: K10 YusufS [2k\]: yeah j18 is a nice sente Hiropro [7k\]: ))) Недобр Kirigo: what about l7 ? RyuuGan [3k\]: недобр?) че это?))) tabla1 [1d\]: m18 seems better shape (and has jose to both sides ] ;W[fi]C[Hiropro [7k\]: Наречие это))) about4d: l7 is interesting bt kinda offtopic, they will focus on E9 group Maybe5k [4k\]: the thought now should be how to do a double attack on the J6 and E9 group Dumbledore [11k?\]: к сегдвформ Hiropro [7k\]: точнее деепричастие))) monk316 [1k\]: wow, first time i'm watching the feed of this game and i have to say that go is really not a spectator sport RyuuGan [3k\]: не то и не другое =) RyuuGan [3k\]: точно just9x9 [-\]: hehe my move Hiropro [7k\]: и хрен с ним) luda [11k\]: F11 simple and efficient slavik1 [8k\]: приятный ходильник))) Kantid [4k\]: скажу по секрету, предложение надо заканчивать точной, а не скобкой к тому же. Kantid [4k\]: *точкой LEIBNIZ [3k\]: Does M18 give w a worry? ikuy [1d\]: no TeeSushi [3d\]: mh i think w is ahead a little at the moment Hiropro [7k\]: точка знал плохой) Hello [3k\]: he's definitely looking at the group Hiropro [7k\]: *к RyuuGan [3k\]: так... давайте об игре luda [11k\]: F11 enlarges white territory on the left side while putting pressure on black's weak group Hiropro [7k\]: давайте Maybe5k [4k\]: does white has any weak groups? expat [4d?\]: F11 starts to erase the centre, too TeeSushi [3d\]: eurogotv can you zoom in on the time please? lemming [-\]: ahahaha the old lady in the bg :) Kirigo: g10 ? Senki [2d\]: yeah euro tell us how much time did they use goingonow [16k\]: one day goingonow [16k\]: and a half goingonow [16k\]: ........ Maybe5k [4k\]: F6 Sebastian [2k\]: hm black behindß jinkidie [16k\]: hmm looks like expat was right and so were the pros. My Mammoth Intellect seems to be misleading me today. luda [11k\]: white can play B7 anytime and bring fear into black's group golgo13 [12k\]: b7 then b8 YusufS [2k\]: black woud welcome w B7 Maybe5k [4k\]: alex is so short Gary34 [4k?\]: he has to wait until it's his turn again Adante [1k\]: b played b10 Sebastian [2k\]: alex is quite small? luda [11k\]: could you elaborate YusufS ? Sakeus [-\]: hey eurogo DONT SLEEP :) ] ;B[bj] ;W[bi]C[Maybe5k [4k\]: he looks small sleepygirl: b10 b11 j18 played ] ;B[ib]C[mcw85 [7k\]: W on the top is alive. Sakeus [-\]: ok :) mcw85 [7k\]: I think. YusufS [2k\]: if W b7, B b8 and blakc gets good shape in snete yanopel [3d\]: no about4d: b is gambling now Maybe5k [4k\]: is alive legendia [2k\]: could someone give me the like to the video please =) mcw85 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 EuroGoTV2 [-\]: look in our info lemming [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 lemming [-\]: too slow :( legendia [2k\]: thx EuroGoTV2 [-\]: link is always in our info, as is the pairing link Maybe5k [4k\]: M18 now is a problem for white lemming [-\]: oh look, kghin just9x9 [-\]: o18 lemming [-\]: :P ] ;W[nb]C[jinkidie [16k\]: good shape in snete? Sounds painful YusufS [2k\]: lol jinkidie [16k\]: kghin is at the congress? lemming [-\]: no, just a very small child :) about4d: now M18 or J18 makes no sense mcw85 [7k\]: I don't think so, jink. Syptryn [3d\]: M-18! Syptryn [3d\]: attack! about4d: surely about4d: can't regret J18 now mcw85 [7k\]: Oh, that was a joke.:-P TeeSushi [3d\]: manja is watching ^^ ] ;B[ob] ;W[lb] ;B[na] ;W[mb]C[just9x9 [-\]: girl wearing nice shirt hehe TeeSushi [3d\]: its manja marz YusufS [2k\]: where now for black? just9x9 [-\]: "Du sollst nicht töten" :) lemming [-\]: lol xD mcw85 [7k\]: Haha. TeeSushi [3d\]: thou shall not kill luda [11k\]: Funny how they play fast in some sequences yithril [2d\]: warum nicht yithril [2d\]: es lohnt sich Syptryn [3d\]: no where... black screwed... about4d: thou shall not even try ;) Teesushi ;) monobrow [7k\]: *shalt luda [11k\]: O18 was Tea suji legendia [2k\]: not tesuji just normal move tontonken [7k\]: tea suji, not tesuji Sebastian [2k\]: w about 50 points? tontonken [7k\]: petite life :> Manudu92 [2k\]: alewandre a t il gagner hier? luda [11k\]: Tea and sushi make a weird combo ] ;B[mm]C[luda [11k\]: oui il a gagné TeeSushi [3d\]: i dont know ... i dont eat sushi xD Manudu92 [2k\]: merci luda tontonken [7k\]: interesting move. yithril [2d\]: how do you pronounce geert? TeeSushi [3d\]: o8 ? tontonken [7k\]: geh-ert just9x9 [-\]: tea and sushi common i thought? jinkidie [16k\]: man if white starts stretching out from l3 what will stop him? tontonken [7k\]: or geert expat [4d?\]: accurate endgame required in this game Dumbledore [11k?\]: lol interesting debate underneath the video TeeSushi [3d\]: i guess w will win this YusufS [2k\]: white to attack e9 group now? Meareal [4k\]: tengen expat [4d?\]: any mistake by either will decide it Sebastian [2k\]: A1! Sakeus [-\]: w tengen b resign :) tontonken [7k\]: i believe in alex dinerchtein! jinkidie [16k\]: b ain't going home till the centre is done luda [11k\]: So do I Meareal [4k\]: cheerleader Meareal [4k\]: lol mcw85 [7k\]: Very hard to secure points in center. tontonken [7k\]: center is pretty loose Adante [1k\]: O8 just9x9 [-\]: b8 and have fun Dumbledore [11k?\]: black has a 25 point victory secured Larrave [3k\]: i got 40 points for white YusufS [2k\]: lol dumble tontonken [7k\]: lol tontonken [7k\]: SE isn't always right, dumbledore Dumbledore [11k?\]: 26.5 points black will win by jinkidie [16k\]: lol dumble what are u sayin Dekachan [10k\]: what score rules are being used for this game? mcw85 [7k\]: Modified ING Larrave [3k\]: dumble=) jinkidie [16k\]: SE just9x9 [-\]: hogwarts rules :) luda [11k\]: dumbeldore uses magic SE I assume TeeSushi [3d\]: yes i count stj lik 40 pts too Larrave [3k\]: please let alex know that i guess he doesntXD Dumbledore [11k?\]: expeliarmus luda [11k\]: argh just9x9 [-\]: for nuclear tesuji ] ;W[jp] ;B[jo]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: i think w is ahead in points but b still got some nice influence mcw85 [7k\]: EGTV: Can we get a time update? luda [11k\]: K4 was flabbergasting just9x9 [-\]: h5 now and preparing b8 Ruzinus [6k\]: flabbergasting? luda [11k\]: oh yes jinkidie [16k\]: ok next b p5 cranes nest and the rest is easy... kukulis4 [2d\]: white will play H5 ? tontonken [7k\]: k4 just solidified Ruzinus [6k\]: are you flabbergasted often? Gary34 [4k?\]: my gast certainly was aflab Kirigo: g5 luda [11k\]: it happens YusufS [2k\]: cute kids! Ruzinus [6k\]: sounds painful monobrow [7k\]: w has 4 libs too many for cranes nest, jinki Maybe5k [4k\]: go is quite an easy game. u just dont have many choices of moves. jinkidie [16k\]: I did say there was a rezst, right? ] ;W[rc]C[Dumbledore [11k?\]: black made a mistake, now he only wins by 18.5 points Larrave [3k\]: ^^ magners [2k\]: maybe5k are you being a philosophical today, instead of strategist? yithril [2d\]: wow Larrave [3k\]: dumbledore you died recently;P jinkidie [16k\]: m5 is hardly a lib and b can push under the rest to kill kukulis4 [2d\]: can black ignore s17 ? Maybe5k [4k\]: i am a philosohically inclined strategist today,magners :) yithril [2d\]: games like this are too hard to count YusufS [2k\]: O.o solidly taking territory kenji1993 [16k?\]: can the players see what you guys are typing? i can only asume not tontonken [7k\]: black doesn't have much to lose there Dumbledore [11k?\]: they can see it EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ofcourse not Meareal [4k\]: lol Tulkas [11k\]: xD Dumbledore [11k?\]: but they assume 99% of it is wrong ] ;B[er]C[yithril [2d\]: they area bit busy looking at the board Dumbledore [11k?\]: except advice from magical wizards EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 tontonken [7k\]: d3 possilby? kenji1993 [16k?\]: 11 8 YusufS [2k\]: e3? mcw85 [7k\]: EGTV1: Can we get a time update? TeeSushi [3d\]: maybe here e3 f2 b7 ? just9x9 [-\]: shape is c3 tontonken Litchie [1k\]: I don't see why white played K4, is it damezumari? kenji1993 [16k?\]: so what if i was playing and had a friend come into chat and tell me everywhere to go lol kukulis4 [2d\]: will white ignore ? kenji1993 [16k?\]: a d9 or something kukulis4 [2d\]: white q18 now ? Gary34 [4k?\]: litchie, high-level aji-keshi is0morph [2d?\]: did someone count the points of both? just9x9 [-\]: i only count the points of one duha: around 30 ? Larrave [3k\]: 24,5 dumbledore kukulis4 [2d\]: white d7, b7 first ? Larrave [3k\]: i guess black made almost up for his mistake^^ grafzahl [11k?\]: ^^ Munters: I would say +10 for black now Kirigo: o15 TeeSushi [3d\]: k4 takes a lib .. but i dont see the connection to a damezumari which is shortage of liberties Maybe5k [4k\]: black is in trouble kukulis4 [2d\]: white d7 Maybe5k [4k\]: do u know why? kukulis4 [2d\]: no kukulis4 [2d\]: why ? TeeSushi [3d\]: oh Larrave [3k\]: o8 was played or Maybe5k [4k\]: he is too greedy Dumbledore [11k?\]: hey... white moved ] ;W[nl]C[Dumbledore [11k?\]: there we go negimagi: Maybe5k, do you have better ideas for b to win here Larrave [3k\]: 18,5;P kenji1993 [16k?\]: wrong move Larrave [3k\]: blacks fighting for his 20+ win LevelNull [3d\]: k4 made j2 sente Dumbledore [11k?\]: black is gauranteed a 18.5 point win kukulis4 [2d\]: o8 ???? Dumbledore [11k?\]: black is strong, white is week Hiropro [7k\]: ) Maybe5k [4k\]: negimahi, let's do what we did yesterday. someone asked me a question, and i answered, which turned out to be correct legendia [2k\]: b is 6d w is 3p xD Maybe5k [4k\]: so let's do the same thing. kukulis4 [2d\]: what is purpose of o8, except making few points ? just9x9 [-\]: thx levelnull, convincing snowman [-\]: i think s9 would be perfectly appropriate at this point Dumbledore [11k?\]: YOU MUST FIGHT FOR EVERY POINT Vondel [2k\]: Is black too late now for the cut, or was the cut unreasonable ? Larrave [3k\]: destroying influence maybe and securing bottom Larrave [3k\]: dont know Maybe5k [4k\]: if, none of the black groups died and black get to jump to F14, will black win? Maybe5k [4k\]: this is the question. duha: m6 no? Hiropro [7k\]: Dumbledore u are week) Vondel [2k\]: O8 seems a key move too me tapir [1d?\]: there was a cut or a sente at o8 for black Litchie [1k\]: I don't see why J2 is now sente, wasn't it before? Dumbledore [11k?\]: niropro you are weak Hiropro [7k\]: kid) duha: can w m6 after 08? Maybe5k [4k\]: simple question. if the answer is yes, likely black will win. Vondel [2k\]: I wonder what the high-dans think of that cut Maybe5k [4k\]: so white will go all out to prevent that. kukulis4 [2d\]: then why white didnt play O8 before S17 ? Vondel [2k\]: seems dangerous to me ] ;B[cr]C[legendia [2k\]: nice move tontonken [7k\]: ah, go for the kill ^^ jinkidie [16k\]: m2 starts it all. Masterstroke :) Vondel [2k\]: Will there be a luch break? legendia [2k\]: no kill but reduce Munters: kill ? Just a lot of points tontonken [7k\]: c3, d1, b7 :O" ZeroCool [3k\]: can b live inside? tontonken [7k\]: white isn't dead so far. Kirigo: d1 TonyTiger [3d\]: black made a huge mistake TonyTiger [3d\]: (just kidding) Newsom [13k\]: )) jinkidie [16k\]: he dont look happy Maybe5k [4k\]: what white is doing all these while escapes many eyes. tontonken [7k\]: i don't see much for black but a few points Maybe5k [4k\]: first, he strengthend with O8, and then now he is peparing to make the H5 peep valid Onmyoji [2d\]: who win? Maybe5k [4k\]: once the peep is valid, the E9 stone is in big trouble Hiropro [7k\]: w Maybe5k [4k\]: black should stop being reedy Meareal [4k\]: such a serious look of the 7p ] ;W[dq] ;B[ds]C[tontonken [7k\]: c3 ? tontonken [7k\]: or b7 o.o Dumbledore [11k?\]: MAJOR MOVE!! BLACK IS GOING TO WIN BY 78.5 NOW Maybe5k [4k\]: F4 pmrktp: why not d1 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: this 7p is one of the nicest people i have ever met BoGoss [2k\]: why didnt white just descend´? ] ;W[bm] ;B[bl] ;W[an]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: dumbledore: please switch off the cap lock Jadeite [?\]: Harry, what is his name? yakotaki [-\]: gote ! buuuuuu WonderGoma [4k\]: Dumbledore, go take a cold shower Dumbledore [11k?\]: WHATS CAPS LOCK? jinkidie [16k\]: b is IN baby Maybe5k [4k\]: slowly slowly white going for the kill. bolb [-\]: Dumbledore : don't shout please TeeSushi [3d\]: d7 legendia [2k\]: w should attack c9 Maybe5k [4k\]: d7 too slow Onmyoji [2d\]: its b turn Dumbledore [11k?\]: HOW AM I SHOUTING? Sakeus [-\]: taranu !!! EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Yu Hui Wang, 7 dan professional jinkidie [16k\]: b b3 looks pleasant Dumbledore [11k?\]: IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SHOUT ON THE INTERNET TeeSushi [3d\]: d7 or g9 WonderGoma [4k\]: stop please Maybe5k [4k\]: 4k criticsing 3d suggestion. sorry teesushi EuroGoTV1 [-\]: http://egc2009.nl/?q=node/1261 YusufS [2k\]: can we request a kick for dumbledore on account of trolling? mcw85 [7k\]: d1 d3 c3 e3 b2 c4 drood [9k\]: shoutcast yakotaki [-\]: call vote mcw85 [7k\]: I think. qgo [4k\]: dear Dumblemore: using capitals is considered shouting in this chatroom Hiropro [7k\]: kick dumbledor Gary34 [4k?\]: not that hard to censor him jinkidie [16k\]: vote: don't kick it aint that bad yet Maybe5k [4k\]: don;t be a fascist. TeeSushi [3d\]: he left (or got kicked already) snowman [-\]: ulfsarkz=dumbledore? roestvrij [2k\]: g10 drood [9k\]: rofl Maybe5k [4k\]: teesushi, D7 is really not very good. EuroGoTV1 [-\]: is this a contest who got the fewest territory? ] ;B[gj]C[Maybe5k [4k\]: alex pretending to be spectator again tontonken [7k\]: maybe. Kenjutsu [2k\]: is it like his habit? tontonken [7k\]: it seems fun :) golgo13 [12k\]: the other game is a bit more interesting..... dare I say kukulis4 [2d\]: white P14 legendia [2k\]: il y a un decalage avec ce que l on voi sur gotv ? Maybe5k [4k\]: G10 is much faster and has influnece to the center EuroGoTV1 [-\]: his habit is winn9ing EuroGoTV1 [-\]: winning Sakeus [-\]: i want that habit YusufS [2k\]: indeed, 6 time European Champion =) Sakeus [-\]: :) legendia [2k\]: parce que le coup noir a ete jouer avant sur kgs que su gotv xD mcw85 [7k\]: The winning habit? Haha. TeeSushi [3d\]: some day im gonna put every french kgs user on my ignore list -.- ] ;W[gi]C[duha: hehe ] ;B[hj]C[Sakeus [-\]: me too EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i am french too jinkidie [16k\]: so u guys don't think whites BL corner is ruined? Maybe5k [4k\]: dame. too bad. Sakeus [-\]: bad for you :) Larrave [3k\]: o8 was big too EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol legendia [2k\]: lol it is not because you are not french that you must don't like them ^^' TeeSushi [3d\]: well but you talk english so we can understand you eurogtv Larrave [3k\]: and influence of black is a bit frightening ftroiset [2d\]: still looks like b is better Nak0r [4k\]: french is easy to understand :p EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i am not french but i feel so kukulis4 [2d\]: white n8 now ? TeeSushi [3d\]: lol Gary34 [4k?\]: no worries, komi is huge Kenjutsu [2k\]: dood Dekachan [10k\]: what is the komi? Sakeus [-\]: 7.5 Kenjutsu [2k\]: did i just saw the guy sweating thru his pants? roestvrij [2k\]: n8 slow? ZeroCool [3k\]: 8 Sakeus [-\]: ? MaxMakinen [2k\]: komi is 8, but black wins ties mcw85 [7k\]: Komi 8 gobanban [4k\]: someone talked in Russian or something like that and nobody said some BetterDays [8k\]: isnt go supposed to be formal, that doesnt include hate and such Ranye [9k\]: how w is gonna win? hylie [4d\]: what, no japanese rules for top 16 boards? ftroiset [2d\]: dont forget its chinese rules MaxMakinen [2k\]: its ing rules, not chinese gobanban [4k\]: donc calmez-vous TeeSushi [3d\]: gobanban ... the problem is if there would be one french player playing here ... it would be only french kibitz talk here -.- hylie [4d\]: for top 16 boards, too? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: u can speak all languages during EuroGoTV relays MaxMakinen [2k\]: yepp, for top16 aswell Jadeite [?\]: BetterDays, Go is played by people not robots :) mcw85 [7k\]: Not japanese rules for entire tournmane.t EuroGoTV1 [-\]: as long as it is kibitz hylie [4d\]: the rules used to be jap for the top players bERt0r [11k\]: what about f9 duha: rules say, japenese rules and komi 6.5 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and not game related TeeSushi [3d\]: but i want to understand what people are talking about ... my french is to bad for that Kenjutsu [2k\]: next time B stands up hylie [4d\]: apologize for your french, KaiHansen [?\]: talking about French plauers, can we find the game between Thomas Debarre and Catalin Taranu somewhere? monobrow [7k\]: hardly their problem, tee Kenjutsu [2k\]: watch carefully Onmyoji [2d\]: why speak in a language nobody understands? Tulkas [11k\]: well maybee theri english too? MaxMakinen [2k\]: duha, thats stated wrong.. it's ing rules, 8points komi, you can check www.egc2009.nl if you want :) tapir [1d?\]: isn't p7 still a cut for black? tontonken [7k\]: i'm seeing live broadcast :O duha: tnx Max Kenjutsu [2k\]: i think he sat on water or somethign Kenjutsu [2k\]: LOL EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but thats the beauty about french and russian, you can make jokes about the english speakers AURELIE46 [3d\]: salut^^ belldandy [-\]: 8 komi ? so jigo possible ? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: salut Jadeite [?\]: duha, this is just a relay, doesn't matter what rules and komi are set in this demo Maybe5k [4k\]: sabonim!! ladenise [24k?\]: where can I see the broadcast ? Kenjutsu [2k\]: bonjour EuroGoTV1 [-\]: http://egc2009.nl/?q=node/1261 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: oeps duha: tnx Jadeite Crowno [10k?\]: coucou EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 duha: what is coucou' duha: ? zc3k [1k\]: b strong like zc lenca [3k\]: means hello tamagoshi [15k?\]: a little bird :p luda [11k\]: means "hi" duha: tnx lenca tontonken [7k\]: i just saw this guy walk in and he's thinning hari tontonken [7k\]: *hair duha: and luda tontonken [7k\]: and another guy Gary34 [4k?\]: go is known to cause hairloss luda [11k\]: "coucou" is not as formal as "bonjour" Kenjutsu [2k\]: ya, like rubbing ur head when thinking about go really can do that to u deft [3d\]: looks like B is still in the game, although the endgame is pretty difficult ] ;W[ql]C[Larrave [3k\]: wow Larrave [3k\]: another solid move duha: oh jinkidie [16k\]: ok whites lower left is toast and b is reaching for most of the centre. I'm worried Larrave [3k\]: guess white isnt^^ roestvrij [2k\]: n8 Kantid [4k\]: i'm never seen somedy've been empessed by solid move monobrow [7k\]: where can i get a transcript of dinerchtein's last game? kukulis4 [2d\]: R8 a pro move indeed Kenjutsu [2k\]: this is bad EuroGoTV1 [-\]: look at my info kukulis4 [2d\]: no dan amateur would play such move Elandal [3k\]: You haven't watched closely then, Kantid EuroGoTV1 [-\]: for last game monobrow [7k\]: thx expat [4d?\]: deft is right, it's a very difficult endgame Kenjutsu [2k\]: ther eare a lot of bold people Kenjutsu [2k\]: at the go tournamnet luda [11k\]: why not, kukulis4 ? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: f7 now? Kenjutsu [2k\]: is that a sign for the rest of us??? ] ;B[ml]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: luda: only kyu and pro players would play R8 move in such position ;) jinkidie [16k\]: still reaching... tontonken [7k\]: nice, that's doing something huginmunin [4k\]: bold or bald? tontonken [7k\]: alex should reach in soon Meareal [4k\]: so? how big will the center be? a, b, c, d or e? Sebastian [2k\]: b got center for free? Onmyoji [2d\]: b+31.5 Kenjutsu [2k\]: bald Kenjutsu [2k\]: my bad, i can't spell qgo [4k\]: like I said before: black going for centre territoy Kenjutsu [2k\]: lol expat [4d?\]: somebody said 30 moves ago that black has no potential in the centre, mhm luda [11k\]: so it means that kyus sometimes play pro-moves unwittingly ?? mcw85 [7k\]: 1:19 0:45 gandhi [5k?\]: 1:19 for white Sebastian [2k\]: a pro move is thoughtful a kyu move is accidently kukulis4 [2d\]: not so many points in center kukulis4 [2d\]: I think its about 15 points jinkidie [16k\]: gawd i hope it wasnt me pat kukulis4 [2d\]: may be 20 Kantid [4k\]: kyu move not accidently. more like 'greedy' Ranye [9k\]: has smb calculated points? se shows b + 30, and it seems to be close to the reality qgo [4k\]: maybe more when b get' chance to play f 6 Sebastian [2k\]: hm kyu move without strategy golgo13 [12k\]: was g11 necessary? look like it gave b g8 area.... belldandy [-\]: SE is nothing yose is for white expat [4d?\]: maybe w can annoy the top a bit, he has q18 left after all climbtrees [6k\]: w needs to annoy a lot I think Ruzinus [6k\]: I think it will be a close game. belldandy [-\]: good* kukulis4 [2d\]: I think next white move will be around g6 luda [11k\]: N9 ? scurge [5d\]: this seems to be hopeless for white monk316 [1k\]: looks like w can't make territroy anywhere else while b can expat [4d?\]: o13? kukulis4 [2d\]: black F6 huge Sebastian [2k\]: perhaps alex wants to win again with 1 point tontonken [7k\]: white's putting a lot of thought into this move jinkidie [16k\]: w's ears are pinker than b's, therefore... golgo13 [12k\]: g11 bad just9x9 [-\]: first walking around, then thinking, good strategy YusufS [2k\]: W about 8 points behind? qgo [4k\]: winning with 1 point is more than enough jinkidie [16k\]: hane, cut, think. Kantid [4k\]: ii would o12 , but it's only me i guess ^_^ just9x9 [-\]: winning with one point is just enough i'd say Sebastian [2k\]: no more than enough is 2 points one point is just enough bcause there is no 0.5 komi Youssev [5d\]: n8 good move tontonken [7k\]: hasn't made a move for a while, wonder what he's thinking :S jinkidie [16k\]: maybe o10 improves on o12, kantid/ tontonken [7k\]: geert is moving around a lot Newstyle [5k\]: l11? Sebastian [2k\]: hes happy kenji1993 [16k?\]: ARE THEY NOT TIMED? kenji1993 [16k?\]: caps* Sakeus [-\]: n9 Sakeus [-\]: other are doing wall ladenise [24k?\]: they are timed jinkidie [16k\]: l11 must be overplay surely luda [11k\]: how is white gonna reduce moyo in the centre ] ;W[fn]C[MaxMakinen [2k\]: they both have 2h 30minutes maintime kenji goseiger [?\]: 2,5 hours each kukulis4 [2d\]: haha Sakeus [-\]: haha yakotaki [-\]: oh tontonken [7k\]: this is an interesting move. kukulis4 [2d\]: I guessed this move tontonken [7k\]: but it makes tons of sense ] ;B[rm]C[kenji1993 [16k?\]: knew it kenji1993 [16k?\]: god play yakotaki [-\]: me too jinkidie [16k\]: s7???? kenji1993 [16k?\]: good* Ruzinus [6k\]: yose time just9x9 [-\]: now h5 and g2 combo, cmo' on Elandal [3k\]: Could you please check the clock, EuroGoTV? tontonken [7k\]: t10 threat...... kenji1993 [16k?\]: white can win EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i did 3 minutes ago Sakeus [-\]: 16k? is saying its good move :) Sakeus [-\]: hah jinkidie [16k\]: 16k said nuthin bub golgo13 [12k\]: he was pretending look at b15 then played f6! sneeky kenji1993 [16k?\]: it started me at 16k lol qgo [4k\]: p 7 still interesting Tulkas [11k\]: sandbagger^^ Nak0r [4k\]: is'nt the area around F15 important too ? monk316 [1k\]: b n10 seems like it would be worth many points mcw85 [7k\]: mcw85 [7k\]: 1:19 0:45 ] ;W[gl]C[jinkidie [16k\]: agree, monk, but is there something better? kenji1993 [16k?\]: white will win tontonken [7k\]: this is good tontonken [7k\]: reduction and a threat at same time jinkidie [16k\]: I'm am so lovin this game EuroGoTV1 [-\]: g7 luda [11k\]: again, white takes advantage of black's weak group on the left side kenji1993 [16k?\]: black is good but white is stronger tapir [1d?\]: e7? Ruzinus [6k\]: this is why breakfast is fun A123vv: hi, anybody kows the password for installing EurogoTV plugins at the Pc of EGC Groningen? jinkidie [16k\]: basically b needs to hit w where he isn't. luda [11k\]: no idea tontonken [7k\]: you have to make an account. Dita [2d\]: try egc2009 Dita [2d\]: just my lucky gues ;0 kukulis4 [2d\]: black s7 was slow qgo [4k\]: strike at the waist EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^ jinkidie [16k\]: just make one up a123 i used name and psw from kgs Aiso [10k\]: tes test Aiso [10k\]: test test* Aiso [10k\]: login password EuroGoTV1 [-\]: egc2009 is correct Aiso [10k\]: i use test Aiso [10k\]: u said this EuroGoTV1 [-\]: u use that on EuroGoTV, but he wants to install flash on the pc's at the go-congress Ranye [9k\]: is there cut at f9? Aiso [10k\]: aa ok tontonken [7k\]: yeah tontonken [7k\]: possibly luda [11k\]: Groenen is applying the Dutch sea wall strategy Nak0r [4k\]: if b doesn't answer ^^ Aiso [10k\]: what nation groenen? Adante [1k\]: the Netherlands jinkidie [16k\]: j8 kinda closes the door but.... ekku [-\]: b will h8 yakotaki [-\]: very nice ] ;B[fj]C[Ruzinus [6k\]: stick your finger in the dike and hope the sea doesnt kill you dead? ekku [-\]: ...or not gogonuts [5d\]: how did alexandre win that game yesterday, i thought b was doing great. are there any commentaries? Maybe5k [4k\]: ah gogonuts. remember me? Maybe5k [4k\]: the strategist. luda [11k\]: that's about is Ruzinus EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i recorded the pro-comment on that game, but didnt edit it yet to put online escada [4k\]: multipurpose moves mcw85 [7k\]: White did an excellent job of doing the bare minimum to keep a weak group running. gogonuts [5d\]: thx gogonuts [5d\]: that one would be interesting to me iplaynaked [1d?\]: whos playing mcw85 [7k\]: By white I mean Alex. chro [8k\]: d8 looks dangerous expat [4d?\]: me too.. white's territory grabbing strategy yesterday was pretty impressive DERM [3k\]: hm... luda [11k\]: white is a real mastermind, I agree iplaynaked [1d?\]: who is playing??? qgo [4k\]: anybody knows at what place Geert ended in the Dutch Chamionship? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 2nd qgo [4k\]: wow qgo [4k\]: thx Ruzinus [6k\]: but Ruzinus [6k\]: at the end of the story Ruzinus [6k\]: didnt someone come and help the boy out? Adante [1k\]: who won it? Merlijn Kuin? mcw85 [7k\]: Pardon? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, merlijn bartosh [3k\]: yes Ruzinus [6k\]: ....I never understood why he didnt find something else to fill the hole with while going for help. Adante [1k\]: ok, thanks mcw85 [7k\]: WTH... iplaynaked [1d?\]: why 3p play with 6d? any handi? Draak [1d\]: noob Tulkas [11k\]: .... iplaynaked [1d?\]: ye lol i have a rl too iplaynaked [1d?\]: still better than u Aiso [10k\]: akex korean pro iplaynaked [1d?\]: whos the noob EuroGoTV1 [-\]: because they are on top of the tournament Aiso [10k\]: alex* EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no handi iplaynaked [1d?\]: k EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 luda [11k\]: how much does white need to reduce to ensure victory is the question. DrH0use [2d\]: totally naked? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes iplaynaked [1d?\]: u interested? ;) Youssev [5d\]: painful to play this dame DrH0use [2d\]: for medical reason only ] ;W[dl]C[Meareal [4k\]: how much time do they have left? gogonuts [5d\]: L3 worked very well for w mcw85 [7k\]: Less than mcw85 [7k\]: 1:19 0:45 luda [11k\]: D9 oonly move init ? gogonuts [5d\]: but the anti-riosk moves afterwards made it close a gain imo gogonuts [5d\]: risk sc1003bro [3k\]: simple and clean icke123: alex getting serious gogonuts [5d\]: no choice here for b YusufS [2k\]: black 0:40, white 1:06 luda [11k\]: D9 ? gogonuts [5d\]: indeed goingonow [16k\]: would O11 work monk316 [1k\]: s7 was just way too early ] ;B[el]C[Luigi330 [22k\]: wwh EuroGoTV1 [-\]: d9 now Jadeite [?\]: yes papamisha [2d\]: it looks like an error tapir [1d?\]: doesnt this help white connecting hist g8 stone? Syptryn [3d\]: mmm batgirl [1k\]: first w e7 ] ;W[ho]C[Syptryn [3d\]: nice move Syptryn [3d\]: black gogonuts [5d\]: nice luda [11k\]: waow Syptryn [3d\]: but good counter with white Syptryn [3d\]: H-5 luda [11k\]: I wouldn't have thought of that Syptryn [3d\]: H-6 ] ;B[hn]C[gogonuts [5d\]: yup gogonuts [5d\]: couldnt just connect Newsom [13k\]: b wins? Sakeus [-\]: g8 is vital point righ? gogonuts [5d\]: g6 looks reasonable to me now ] ;W[gn]C[ftroiset [2d\]: w stil not found a weakness mcw85 [7k\]: Nice way to connect. luda [11k\]: white looks slightly better Newson ftroiset [2d\]: to whom? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: black has 2 problems now gogonuts [5d\]: d7 now? jinkidie [16k\]: b e11 and he gets wither a ponnuki or a breakin luda [11k\]: D9 sente jinkidie [16k\]: either* Luhmann: hehe hi @ all mcw85 [7k\]: Hi. qgo [4k\]: shouldn't in a European Championship the champions of each european country meat in a tournement ? like for instance in soccer? ] ;B[il]C[gogonuts [5d\]: better that the 7ds meet Prodigious [5d?\]: It's an open tournament mcw85 [7k\]: Open tournament. jinkidie [16k\]: omg there the door slammer golgo13 [12k\]: that 9pt Adante [1k\]: that's what the world amateur go tournaments are for luda [11k\]: open tournaments enable more players to challenge expat [4d?\]: open tournaments are better for european go :) Algol [2d\]: would anyone play n11 ? Maybe5k [4k\]: i wont Luhmann: b16 for the game later?^^ Maybe5k [4k\]: n11 is so pessimistic Luhmann: looks close^ gogonuts [5d\]: looks like this went quite well for b gogonuts [5d\]: w need s to do more again ftroiset [2d\]: b is clearly in advance now Syptryn [3d\]: when J8 and not H8? jinkidie [16k\]: we cannot get out we cannot get out YusufS [2k\]: h11? tirebuchon [4k\]: n9? negimagi: not if you ask se :D ] ;W[dk] ;B[dj] ;W[cj] ;B[dm] ;W[ej] ;B[fm]C[Luhmann: b is so solide Luhmann: pro yose might be te key :P luda [11k\]: E6 ] ;W[gm] ;B[fk]C[YusufS [2k\]: too bad this ends in gote for black though gogonuts [5d\]: otherwise it would be catastrophic for w YusufS [2k\]: yes kenji1993 [16k?\]: i told you white would win gogonuts [5d\]: its allready a good development for b jesus95 [6k\]: why cant white cut at j5? Luhmann: you dont like alexandre Yusuf? Luhmann: i like him ML [2d\]: b ahead I´d say kenji1993 [16k?\]: black should resign ftroiset [2d\]: b played J8 in the sequence, though Luhmann: hi isnt such an hippi, like so many of us Momogo [3d\]: i want w win YusufS [2k\]: oh no I like him, I just think he has a tough time in yose ahead of him here Porkypine [8k\]: why kenji kenji1993 [16k?\]: because this game is over Luhmann: pro yose will be 10+ points^^ Highwayman [1d\]: why kenji ? Jadeite [?\]: lol Momogo [3d\]: more Porkypine [8k\]: Don't trust SE :( Highwayman [1d\]: no the game is completely open kenji1993 [16k?\]: if you say so ftroiset [2d\]: jesus, its called a ladder EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 Highwayman [1d\]: try to count territory gogonuts [5d\]: w would like to play n9 i think luda [11k\]: Those "he should resign" comments are getting on my nerves, lol gogonuts [5d\]: but its not the safest move :-) jesus95 [6k\]: the ladder doesnt work Luhmann: indeed not safe ^^ jinkidie [16k\]: luda should resign luda [11k\]: ^^ mcw85 [7k\]: I resign. qgo [4k\]: yes, or b o 9 negimagi: getting on nerves while laughing out loud Porkypine [8k\]: There isn't a lot of use in cutting two groups that can easily live by themselves tama5 [20k\]: hi Dita [2d\]: I hope Geert wins :) Aiso [10k\]: e6 sente Luhmann: r18 simple maybe expat [4d?\]: r18 a bit early Porkypine [8k\]: Right now white appear to be behind in territory expat [4d?\]: might want q18 later GoShinobi [-\]: how often geert lost ? kenji1993 [16k?\]: maybe so gogonuts [5d\]: w will not allow b o9 kenji1993 [16k?\]: but he will win' qgo [4k\]: so do I Dita but is almost a mission impossible TeeSushi [3d\]: i think black is slighty ahead Luhmann: right o9 is huge kash [5d\]: j12? Adante [1k\]: K11 Porkypine [8k\]: G15 or F15 look pretty big to me, but I'm quite bad lol kenji1993 [16k?\]: unless white makes a mistake he will win Dita [2d\]: J12 is my move too papamisha [2d\]: N9 ? gopro [2k\]: A10? expat [4d?\]: n9 or n10? jinkidie [16k\]: the ladder works Sakeus [-\]: o9 Luhmann: i think o9 luda [11k\]: I would play N9 Sakeus [-\]: o9,n9 Luhmann: and i would cut you ^^ expat [4d?\]: o9 is too easy on black Sakeus [-\]: i dont know kenji1993 [16k?\]: n9 googlebear [3k\]: n10 works Oursew [2k\]: no Highwayman [1d\]: a black move around o10 can close the game for black tirebuchon [4k\]: maybe m10? ] ;W[ih]C[luda [11k\]: cutting N9 doesn't work Jadeite [?\]: umm, what ladder/ Jadeite [?\]: ? Dita [2d\]: :) Luhmann: now they could trade^ kenji1993 [16k?\]: j12 good move jinkidie [16k\]: jade the ladder that starts with w j5 chewing [3k\]: that is a desaster for black expat [4d?\]: starting to aim at j9 gogonuts [5d\]: what a pesky move Jadeite [?\]: oh ok, thx jinkidie luda [11k\]: white looks very confident and serene Dita [2d\]: what does pesky mean? Dita [2d\]: nasty? :) gogonuts [5d\]: look it up ftroiset [2d\]: k11 seemùs enough kenji1993 [16k?\]: thats because hes going to win lol luda [11k\]: pickey ? Finn [2k\]: white works back... mcw85 [7k\]: Pesky means annoying. Porkypine [8k\]: troublesome/annoying Dita [2d\]: thnx gogonuts [5d\]: mosquitoes are pesky Porkypine [8k\]: Children are pesky *laughs* Dita [2d\]: ^_^ kenji1993 [16k?\]: how long left on the timer? Luhmann: h12? Luhmann: id try to trade here googlebear [3k\]: mosquitos are pesky until they are on the wrong side of a slap jinkidie [16k\]: dumble is pesky YusufS [2k\]: was pesky* jinkidie [16k\]: lol Luhmann: h12! mcw85 [7k\]: Yes, what happened to him? kenji1993 [16k?\]: not h12 TeeSushi [3d\]: h12 not working kenji1993 [16k?\]: maybe k12 TeeSushi [3d\]: rather k11 TeeSushi [3d\]: but not sure if k11 is good enough kenji1993 [16k?\]: k12 or k11 luda [11k\]: how do you refute H12 ? jinkidie [16k\]: ya k11 gogonuts [5d\]: this is a typical "take a long think" position googlebear [3k\]: j11 kukulis4 [2d\]: white may connect at A10 later kenji1993 [16k?\]: not j11 kenji1993 [16k?\]: j11 kenji1993 [16k?\]: k11* Gary34 [4k?\]: important to think at the right places googlebear [3k\]: j11 is better kenji1993 [16k?\]: no mcw85 [7k\]: Even numbered moves between 1 and 112 have been "take a long think" moves. Highwayman [1d\]: A10 doesn not connect Ranye [9k\]: f14 for b? ] ;B[nk]C[Highwayman [1d\]: A10, A8 luda [11k\]: tenuki gogonuts [5d\]: wow papamisha [2d\]: looks like error gogonuts [5d\]: took the stategic move mcw85 [7k\]: Is it sente? kenji1993 [16k?\]: o9 luda [11k\]: oh yes Luigi330 [22k\]: whats the difference between the p and the d rank ? gogonuts [5d\]: O9 saysd "show me" luda [11k\]: p means pro Luigi330 [22k\]: thx kenji1993 [16k?\]: interesting TeeSushi [3d\]: eurogotv can you please tell us how much time they have left or maybe you can zoom on the clock? kukulis4 [2d\]: Luigi: 1p = 7d luda [11k\]: white must be sort of puzzled now gogonuts [5d\]: alexandre played a lot of "show me" moves himself yesterday Luigi330 [22k\]: so 3p = 21d ? suiram [5k\]: 3p=2? suiram [5k\]: :)) kenji1993 [16k?\]: 3p=9d? Porkypine [8k\]: 0:30 0:55 kukulis4 [2d\]: 3p = 7,6 d Porkypine [8k\]: other way around actually kenji1993 [16k?\]: 9d is the highest XD Porkypine [8k\]: Black - 0:55 White 0:30 mcw85 [7k\]: :55 :30 TeeSushi [3d\]: 30mins for black and 55 for white Sakeus [-\]: 9d pro papermate [4k\]: 9p actually Asaliuru [21k\]: who is ahead ? Aiso [10k\]: groenen amateur? Highwayman [1d\]: in europe 3p = 7,6 dan Sakeus [-\]: amateur have only 7 d kukulis4 [2d\]: pro level difference is about 1/3 stones gogonuts [5d\]: is there a japanese term for "show me" or "do your worst"? ] ;W[jh]C[Porkypine [8k\]: Geert is 7d, I believe TeeSushi [3d\]: in usa you can be ama 9d kenji1993 [16k?\]: hes 6d EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Geert is 6d kenji1993 [16k?\]: according to the rank next to his name lol Sakeus [-\]: USA is weird :) EuroGoTV1 [-\]: k10 now? Porkypine [8k\]: oh Porkypine [8k\]: right lol kenji1993 [16k?\]: OH WHAT kenji1993 [16k?\]: k12 i win ] ;B[jj]C[gogonuts [5d\]: now k10 lopks advisable to me gogonuts [5d\]: to geert too TeeSushi [3d\]: good call eurogotv :) Ranye [9k\]: o15 is possible for w? kenji1993 [16k?\]: i should be a pro Porkypine [8k\]: 16p? Porkypine [8k\]: :P Oresama [2k\]: k10 was played before he proposed ! ^^ Sakeus [-\]: -p :) EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no norg [3k\]: o15 p14 expat [4d?\]: ranye o15 answered by p14 qgo [4k\]: around f 14 becomes big too Oresama [2k\]: joke ^^ Luhmann: i bet w wins now EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^ Sakeus [-\]: m12 Senki [2d\]: black can win Mem0r3x [1k\]: f16 Ranye [9k\]: thnx fryskenfry [6k?\]: je zit te happen, eurogotv kenji1993 [16k?\]: black wont win lol TeeSushi [3d\]: q18 maybe now? suiram [5k\]: SE says B +4.5 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hoor je het? TeeSushi [3d\]: se cant count chinese rules gogonuts [5d\]: k12 for k10 doesnt exactly look productive for w suiram [5k\]: oh ] ;W[pb]C[Tulkas [11k\]: to just shut kenji up i want that b wins CheG [5k?\]: frack SE TeeSushi [3d\]: ah you put in japanese rules good idea :) luda [11k\]: Alexandre the Great has everything under control Luhmann: good call teesushi kukulis4 [2d\]: SE was saying b+30 ten moves before ichi7e [4k\]: they play with japanese rules, right? kenji1993 [16k?\]: good play for white lol TeeSushi [3d\]: yeha :D janssensei: Ing rules YusufS [2k\]: modified ING rules Porkypine [8k\]: They play with simpligied ING rules Hanne [3k\]: q18 good moku stealing move Porkypine [8k\]: simplified ichi7e [4k\]: ok Porkypine [8k\]: rather Mem0r3x [1k\]: TeeSushi [3p\]: q18 maybe now? Luhmann: hehe mcw85 [7k\]: Haha. mcw85 [7k\]: Nice! papermate [4k\]: wow went from 3d to 3p TeeSushi [3d\]: no ... q18 was just one of many big moves iplaynaked [1d?\]: funny kukulis4 [2d\]: black group no eyes jinkidie [16k\]: I predict q18 also ] ;B[pc] ;W[qb]C[kenji1993 [16k?\]: q18 IS TAKEN Luhmann: q18 looks like the only really attack^ Mem0r3x [1k\]: q13 luda [11k\]: Q18 seals white victory goingonow [16k\]: why are there p level players how do you get it triveNge [16k?\]: OMG triveNge [16k?\]: this game is STILL GOING????????? TeeSushi [3d\]: aley was a few years in korea to get pro ] ;B[pf]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: black has sente ftroiset [2d\]: t10? TeeSushi [3d\]: *alex mcw85 [7k\]: No, it's over. Scribe is just very slow/ Luhmann: some games are going for days in asia^ Hare [7k\]: some players actually think through their moves triveNge [16k?\]: its over? luda [11k\]: sente to do nothing ] ;W[pg]C[Luhmann: thats paradox ] ;B[kh]C[gogonuts [5d\]: sente to avaoid w p14 Jadeite [?\]: triveNge, of course to play this level it helps to think before playing a move :) googlebear [3k\]: mcw if that wasnt funny it would be almost mean papermate [4k\]: cut? Luhmann: why not expat [4d?\]: still close game Luhmann: l11? gogonuts [5d\]: p14 is pretty juicy still Chillijan [?\]: always think before cutting and then cut regardless Momogo [3d\]: how alex become pro in korea? Momogo [3d\]: pro exam? papermate [4k\]: took the test plusguy [-\]: no plusguy [-\]: there is a thing called Gary34 [4k?\]: if he did, he must've failed :p he is honorary pro luda [11k\]: what does the exam consist in ? plusguy [-\]: honorary pro Momogo [3d\]: no pro exam in korea? lemurov [-\]: by the cpecial decision of KBA ] ;W[bd]C[BlackLotus [9k\]: W win no? fryskenfry [6k?\]: by motion. promotion that is. norg [3k\]: w g15 plusguy [-\]: is a title which given to foreign players that support go and are rather strong kukulis4 [2d\]: white did such move again Luhmann: wow gote^^ luda [11k\]: What does the exam consist in ? gogonuts [5d\]: b16 is really big plusguy [-\]: obviously if you didnt grow in korea/china you wont ever pass the pro exam there kukulis4 [2d\]: there was R8, now B16 ;) plusguy [-\]: ^^ iplaynaked [1d?\]: so w is notrly 3p? KopiPeng [6d\]: the PRO exam requires u to solve 1000 questions within a period of 2hours. If u score 95% and above for 5 consecutive semesters, u will be awarded the Pro status expat [4d?\]: after this w can play F16 Senki [2d\]: t10 now luda [11k\]: thx plusguy [-\]: he is pro, but he didnt do the exam TeeSushi [3d\]: damn close game ^^ roestvrij [2k\]: just a11? macgill [2k\]: b f 15 Sbetsho [8k\]: 1000 q's seems like overkill gogonuts [5d\]: f15 TeeSushi [3d\]: not easy to cout esko [1k\]: f15 gogonuts [5d\]: jupp ] ;B[fe]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: *coint just9x9 [-\]: wowo kopi that sounds easy depending on the questions ;) Hare [7k\]: if it depends on the questions not so easy papermate [4k\]: ok whats atari? =) choboco [1k\]: 2 hours make 7200 seconds, means 7,2 seconds/problem KopiPeng [6d\]: but the hard part is u have to get 95% for 5 consecutive semesters, thats why we have so few PROs choboco [1k\]: and they are probably 1000 hard problems choboco [1k\]: so phew gogonuts [5d\]: w has been taking some nice edge points in sente Sbetsho [8k\]: even if the questions were very easy, 1000 of them is very tedious Luhmann: when b does play b3? tapir [1d?\]: shouldnt black play the monkey jump soon. KopiPeng [6d\]: yes, choboco, u so correct. luda [11k\]: 1000 questions within 2 hours ! Waow TeeSushi [3d\]: f13 maybe choboco [1k\]: you need to have a good instinct and knowledge of alot of püroblems to solve all in 7,2 seconds/each DrZoom [5k\]: Too much caffeine for Geert… hes looks nervous Highwayman [1d\]: 1000 questions within 2 hours ??? where is this exam ? mirmur: Stupid question! honorary or not honorary pro? Pro=PRO!!! just9x9 [-\]: hehe he nods his whole body for counting ;) fancyfood [1d\]: hes seizing mcw85 [7k\]: Kopi: What are the questions? ] ;W[hi]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Like tesumego, best move, etc? ] ;B[ji]C[jinkidie [16k\]: gert nice and calm. Compare ear colors luda [11k\]: It means you fail if you make more than 50 mistakes KopiPeng [6d\]: GO questions. It will be set by a Exams Board. norg [3k\]: I thought the pro exam just involved playing Go against a pro... just9x9 [-\]: like when did lee changho got pro? Jadeite [?\]: ear colour? ...lol lesid [4k\]: did black really play so fast, or was it just eurogotv? KopiPeng [6d\]: GO is so popular now that the GO exams are done in a systematic way. mcw85 [7k\]: Go questions to become go pro? Nahhh, haha. ] ;W[fd]C[Highwayman [1d\]: To become a pro you should enter in a go school in asia and win with other students kukulis4 [2d\]: wow kukulis4 [2d\]: f16 Luhmann: hihi Luhmann: pro yose will win^^ DrZoom [5k\]: lesid: Just erogotv Mem0r3x [1k\]: Testing black. ] ;B[gd]C[lesid [4k\]: thanks tapir [1d?\]: KopiPeng: where? isn t it a tournament in china? expat [4d?\]: not much of a test, there is only one answer to f16 lol papermate [4k\]: lets ask lyon Luhmann: w anna cut at g15 ural2001 [20k\]: hi ALL !!! ;)) DrZoom [5k\]: caffeine reduces the brain performance by 10-15% jinkidie [16k\]: hey ural DrH0use [2d\]: like masturbztion Luhmann: yes doc! mcw85 [7k\]: ... yithril [2d\]: his shirt says stfu dlrm [12k\]: ah, now it's clear why I'm 12k yithril [2d\]: i love it Luhmann: e16 sente or? dlrm [12k\]: :) mysteries [?\]: m Chillijan [?\]: heh, 2 guys in thinkgeek shirts :) DrH0use [2d\]: lol dlrm mcw85 [7k\]: DrH0use, I think I have lupus. yithril [2d\]: it could be tibetan amoebic dysentery DrH0use [2d\]: this is not lupus dlrm [12k\]: haha donzet [?\]: sarcoidose? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: close game? DrH0use [2d\]: cancer dlrm [12k\]: It's never lupus :) DrH0use [2d\]: sry ] ;W[of]C[choboco [1k\]: its never lupus DrH0use [2d\]: you die tomorow ] ;B[oe]C[mcw85 [7k\]: :-( DrH0use [2d\]: u can give me your car kukulis4 [2d\]: all watchers so serious ;) EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i think white ahead by 5 papermate [4k\]: yay choboco [1k\]: dr h0use i wanna take a ride on your disco stick ] ;W[bq]C[Sebastian [2k\]: i hope b will win tapir [1d?\]: black q14 white q13 lost points for black it seems. jinkidie [16k\]: dang b was supposed to get that point Luhmann: e16?? Highwayman [1d\]: i count B + 6 gogonuts [5d\]: b O123 now? Luhmann: e16 30 000 points Boogeyman [3k\]: now b+3 gogonuts [5d\]: O12 :-) EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so only 11 ponits difference^^ qgo [4k\]: kikashi at e 12 ? kukulis4 [2d\]: white going to invade around g2 soon Gomueller [2d\]: T10 gogonuts [5d\]: e12 would get swallowed ] ;B[sj] ;W[rk] ;B[sk]C[DrH0use [2d\]: g2 h2 ] ;W[sl]C[jinkidie [16k\]: o12 drool ] ;B[rl] ;W[si] ;B[sm] ;W[rj]C[Luhmann: e16 now gogonuts [5d\]: ok, first the monkey Luhmann: r15 for fun^^ kukulis4 [2d\]: black connecting at t8 is wrong ? dxxd [-\]: have none of the top games been decided yet? Mofioi [5k\]: t8 sente Boogeyman [3k\]: no Larrave [3k\]: i doubt t8 sente yet jinkidie [16k\]: why bother kuku? chro [8k\]: t8 is not sente ftroiset [2d\]: so must be lefdt as ko threat Mofioi [5k\]: ok ^^ tapir [1d?\]: but will be sente later. qgo [4k\]: p 7 still seems special Luhmann: r15???^^ Highwayman [1d\]: t8 sente mage44 [9k\]: yea kukulis4 [2d\]: if black t8, then white Q15 Mofioi [5k\]: if ignore t8 s11 big, isnt it ? Highwayman [1d\]: after q15 still sente ] ;B[ok]C[Larrave [3k\]: s11 doesnt work Highwayman [1d\]: s11 works even with q15 jinkidie [16k\]: sry kuku thot u said t18 gogonuts [5d\]: how about w o2 now? ftroiset [2d\]: nice threat kukulis4 [2d\]: white O6 kukulis4 [2d\]: may be ] ;W[ir]C[Larrave [3k\]: then still p7 works or ] ;B[hr]C[gogonuts [5d\]: O2, n2, m2, O1, m1,n1, J2,h2, k1 qgo [4k\]: a tempo Highwayman [1d\]: white 06 black p7 ] ;W[is]C[gogonuts [5d\]: oh kukulis4 [2d\]: sixbox ] ;B[gp] ;W[go]C[Highwayman [1d\]: disaster for black gogonuts [5d\]: sente kukulis4 [2d\]: not disaster Larrave [3k\]: needs j5 gogonuts [5d\]: p9 backfired big time Highwayman [1d\]: disaster if black lose sente ] ;B[hs]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: ah Mousqueton [1d\]: black is doing very well against a pro jinkidie [16k\]: threat EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 awers [2d\]: l1 ] ;W[kr]C[gogonuts [5d\]: better to win once than to do very well 10 times Mousqueton [1d\]: you can not win if you dont play very well kukulis4 [2d\]: black must defent the j5 ? sleepygirl: but you can lose if you play well too Larrave [3k\]: both implications are wrong^^ msanthrope [2k\]: depends on how well your oponent plays Luhmann: poor b Larrave [3k\]: you cant implicate win=> played very well ] ;B[io] ;W[mr] ;B[nr]C[DrZoom [5k\]: EuroGoTV1: How much time have the players left? KlerChazal [-\]: now w is sente gogonuts [5d\]: awful result for b kukulis4 [2d\]: can white play o1 ? KlerChazal [-\]: i agree. Luhmann: told ya b16 for the game^ Larrave [3k\]: white tenukis now or Luhmann: w just pro yose^^ DrZoom [5k\]: EuroGoTV1: thank you Luhmann: now sente everywhere msanthrope [2k\]: o 12 ? gogonuts [5d\]: O1 better than tenuki, but he might live with n1 instead kukulis4 [2d\]: black n1 will be very big mcw85 [7k\]: :39 :20 kenji1993 [16k?\]: i told you guys =p kukulis4 [2d\]: white played yose from the very begining of the game ;) kenji1993 [16k?\]: white will win jinkidie [16k\]: n1 leads to ko doesnt it kuku? ftroiset [2d\]: I still dont see w winning at the moment. How do you count htat? ] ;W[nh]C[XY0908 [-\]: So far B is doing fine though, right? msanthrope [2k\]: hehe my move kenji1993 [16k?\]: its not amatter of counting atm kenji1993 [16k?\]: look at his plays mcw85 [7k\]: "Not a matter of counting." Oresama [2k\]: TIME PLEASE ? kukulis4 [2d\]: shouldnt black play n1 now ? XY0908 [-\]: It seems W is a bit ahead now after O12. Gary34 [4k?\]: always a matter of counting mcw85 [7k\]: :39 :20 mcw85 [7k\]: Or there about. kenji1993 [16k?\]: no lol Sebastian [2k\]: n11 kenji1993 [16k?\]: white has very solid plays kenji1993 [16k?\]: just watch mcw85 [7k\]: That's what's going on now, kenji. mcw85 [7k\]: "What moves are the biggest." Oresama [2k\]: thx msanthrope [2k\]: well o12 was big ] ;B[mi]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: white e16 ? mcw85 [7k\]: E17 first? Luhmann: q15 mcw85 [7k\]: Not e16/ Jadeite [?\]: looks like B will get more in the centre than I thought he would Sakeus [-\]: o14 Larrave [3k\]: for me black might be ahead without komi Larrave [3k\]: slightly ] ;W[mh] ;B[lh] ;W[ni]C[Luhmann: means w wins^^ ] ;B[nj]C[Damaging [16k\]: even games? yakito [3k\]: o14 qgo [4k\]: Harry, there's an other Harrie ] ;W[nf] ;B[ne]C[yakito [3k\]: f14 ? tirebuchon [4k\]: f13? Luhmann: q15 e16 Boogeyman [3k\]: w+2 msanthrope [2k\]: its close that for sure KlerChazal [-\]: f14 mcw85 [7k\]: EGTV1: Will lightning finals be shown on KGS? Luhmann: id e16 now Sebastian [2k\]: one color + imaginary EuroGoTV1 [-\]: impossible to show on KGS msanthrope [2k\]: what about g14ish area TeeSushi [3d\]: yes very close thats why i think white will win DrZoom [5k\]: f14 googlebear [3k\]: f14 yakito [3k\]: j13 first? ] ;W[ed]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Figured you would say that. :-P ] ;B[gf]C[thekaiser [1d\]: t8 not sente? Highwayman [1d\]: yes t8 sente Luhmann: it is DrZoom [5k\]: f13 Sakae [-\]: who won yesterday? msanthrope [2k\]: b ghot in g14 Sakae [-\]: diner or the korean? Luhmann: maybe b wanna r15? Arhiman [3k\]: o1 Sebastian [2k\]: alex going for 1 point win again mcw85 [7k\]: Dinerchtein. KlerChazal [-\]: alex won ] ;W[ia] ;B[ha] ;W[ja]C[KlerChazal [-\]: the game was awesome. Sakae [-\]: his title as a pro is getting more stable Sebastian [2k\]: was it unstable? kukulis4 [2d\]: black want to tenuki ? Arhiman [3k\]: can't ? ] ;B[eb]C[Larrave [3k\]: tenuki cant Sakae [-\]: he was weaker before :p Larrave [3k\]: ah^^ Senki [2d\]: i think black hasn't lost yet KlerChazal [-\]: sure can't. mcw85 [7k\]: Why do people say he is "honorary" pro. Surely that is not the same as an "honoroary" doctorate. Luhmann: q15 wintogo [7d\]: w mistake kukulis4 [2d\]: where ? MilanChe [-\]: where? Luhmann: f13? Highwayman [1d\]: diner did not pass pro-exam, but still he did a good result Arhiman [3k\]: n13 sente ? wintogo [7d\]: e18 first Highwayman [1d\]: so he' s a honorary pro TeeSushi [3d\]: well he didnt get pro like other koreans did. he got pro because his good performance there ftroiset [2d\]: yes, 3 more points in the coorner later donzet [?\]: w e18 was bigger Boogeyman [3k\]: b2 mcw85 [7k\]: I see, Highwayman. yakito [3k\]: o1 Gary34 [4k?\]: honorary pros are more go ambassadors mcw85 [7k\]: Still seems quite strong to me. :-P ] ;W[nn]C[Highwayman [1d\]: another reason is that he was to old to become a real pro Luhmann: a10 big too thekaiser [1d\]: sees close msanthrope [2k\]: hmmm kserks [2k\]: l14, h15 thekaiser [1d\]: seems* mcw85 [7k\]: I just feel like when people say "honorary" as derogatory. :-/ emre35 [4d\]: t8 ladenise [24k?\]: Could zoom to the clock please ? mirmur: jaundiced ladenise [24k?\]: +you Sebastian [2k\]: cant ignore Vondel [2k\]: e12 ? KlerChazal [-\]: it's not as if they were giving away honorary pro titles either :P Gary34 [4k?\]: honorary seems ... like quite an honor? :) Mousqueton [1d\]: d15 lookd big to me qgo [4k\]: e 12 Mousqueton [1d\]: q15 ftroiset [2d\]: n1 now Luhmann: t8 Sebastian [2k\]: has to connect Luhmann: why? Sebastian [2k\]: m6 Arhiman [3k\]: m6 Larrave [3k\]: m6 big Larrave [3k\]: yes yakito [3k\]: ^^ nosebleed [2k\]: must connect, nothing worth those points hanniibal [6k\]: p8 q7 ] ;B[eg]C[Luhmann: lol ftroiset [2d\]: n1 first Vondel [2k\]: right nolimits [2d\]: ;) Vondel [2k\]: second thoughed MilanChe [-\]: good ] ;W[ef]C[luda [11k\]: white threatening M6 ] ;B[fg]C[msanthrope [2k\]: i dsay sente woprth more than 4 points herer Vondel [2k\]: now Vondel [2k\]: can w tenuki? luda [11k\]: M6 ! msanthrope [2k\]: yeah m6 i guess more than 4 Luhmann: m6 l7 tirebuchon [4k\]: h15 msanthrope [2k\]: stll which is the bigger loss ? Dekachan [10k\]: H12? qgo [4k\]: geert geen groentje in these matters mcw85 [7k\]: m6 is about 5 only, I tink. Damaging [16k\]: true ] ;W[hp] ;B[hq] ;W[fp]C[MilanChe [-\]: lol ftroiset [2d\]: n1 Godaisuki [1k\]: -.-? Vondel [2k\]: tenuki here ? ] ;B[ms]C[Vondel [2k\]: a11 ? msanthrope [2k\]: i thinki tenuki ftroiset [2d\]: yes!!! MilanChe [-\]: of course TonyTiger [3d\]: uh. crazy move ] ;W[lr]C[msanthrope [2k\]: b si winning this imo bartosh [3k\]: a9 ftroiset [2d\]: p7 bistrogo [3d\]: La RFG nouvelle est arrivée ] ;B[om]C[msanthrope [2k\]: g 14 was big tapir [1d?\]: white lives though TonyTiger [3d\]: M2 = white is winning ftroiset [2d\]: yes!!! bistrogo [3d\]: youpi! bistrogo [3d\]: ;) EuroGoTV1 [-\]: wow rausku [-\]: oooooops emre35 [4d\]: ? Reiter101 [-\]: lol Damaging [16k\]: brilliant mage44 [9k\]: gg emre35 [4d\]: q7 kash [5d\]: relax msanthrope [2k\]: b si winning imo tornemhi [1d\]: it's alive... hfghgh: q5 qgo [4k\]: this p7 very special indeed ftroiset [2d\]: I beat a 3p§§§ qgo [4k\]: will it work Elendar [1d\]: yay its alive . Luhmann: no Arhiman [3k\]: q7 ] ;W[mn]C[Luhmann: but big MOCbKA [1d\]: W alive jinkidie [16k\]: here come the p5 thing again thekaiser [1d\]: p7 is really nice msanthrope [2k\]: its been there for a ong time thekaiser [1d\]: avoid w 6 Elendar [1d\]: p7 worth 0 pts tapir [1d?\]: d13 answer m6 Luhmann: yeah destroyed m6 Reiter101 [-\]: shame it doesnt work Vondel [2k\]: TIME LEFT PLZ... Reiter101 [-\]: w is alive msanthrope [2k\]: not if he kills sleepygirl: it's not working, white can make an eye at p5 Reiter101 [-\]: duh Luhmann: sure it works Larrave [3k\]: no ftroiset [2d\]: no, you forgot O5 Luhmann: w dosnt have m6 anymore Highwayman [1d\]: alive but black can capture q8 Luhmann: and b got g14 Sebastian [2k\]: geert overlooked this move? Larrave [3k\]: p5 is an eye Reiter101 [-\]: W alive for sure Reiter101 [-\]: 100% Luhmann: thats not the point thekaiser [1d\]: is w loosing now? jinkidie [16k\]: ya rats Tulkas [11k\]: w is alive even i can read that out ] ;B[lo]C[Highwayman [1d\]: w alive but he lost a lot of points Arhiman [3k\]: q7 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: looks dead to me TeeSushi [3d\]: now white connects in sente Larrave [3k\]: q5 nolimits [2d\]: alive Larrave [3k\]: or nosebleed [2k\]: looks dead to me too Vondel [2k\]: mee too TeeSushi [3d\]: q7 q6 q5 r6 o5 mage44 [9k\]: q5 msanthrope [2k\]: im not so sure its alive TonyTiger [3d\]: sigh. easy life EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ah, q7 now mcw85 [7k\]: q5 makes eye or connect miai. thekaiser [1d\]: it is yakito [3k\]: q7 Arhiman [3k\]: q7 MilanChe [-\]: poor alex Reiter101 [-\]: omg Larrave [3k\]: or q7 tirebuchon [4k\]: q7 q6 q5 r6 o5 Mousqueton [1d\]: q7 q6 q5 o5 Luhmann: hahahahaha ftroiset [2d\]: sory, my mistake :-( Luhmann: great!! Reiter101 [-\]: IT LIVES for god sake DrH0use [2d\]: ok ok yakito [3k\]: ^^ Reiter101 [-\]: and it's even good for w ftroiset [2d\]: no 3p for me yet Reiter101 [-\]: sente Sebastian [2k\]: hm looks in danger kash [5d\]: but why n6? yakito [3k\]: yep sente with o1 DrZoom [5k\]: white is alive. kukulis4 [2d\]: white gets sente Larrave [3k\]: n6 is sente gargl: to get sente Larrave [3k\]: and threatens life thekaiser [1d\]: not really sente thekaiser [1d\]: lol Reiter101 [-\]: if later w would n6 he would just block Reiter101 [-\]: probably Larrave [3k\]: if it wasnt kaiser then why did he answer;P yakito [3k\]: its sente because of m6 then msanthrope [2k\]: well b played m5 deosnt that imply he htinks he can kill ? ] ;W[pm]C[msanthrope [2k\]: instead of m6 ] ;B[pn]C[thekaiser [1d\]: directly q7 ] ;W[po] ;B[qn] ;W[no]C[Sebastian [2k\]: alive Luhmann: m6 Sebastian [2k\]: :D Reiter101 [-\]: in sente Arhiman [3k\]: m6 Porkypine [8k\]: and to think people wanted alex to tenuki after n1 TeeSushi [3d\]: m6 q10 ? Luhmann: and w gained nothing Hideto [3k\]: very simply Porkypine [8k\]: you murderers Luhmann: b got g14 legendia [2k\]: of course alive ^^ Larrave [3k\]: m6 remains Mousqueton [1d\]: a11 nosebleed [2k\]: w gained g3 msanthrope [2k\]: yeah b got g14 msanthrope [2k\]: i called that one :) luda [11k\]: white has gained sente in the process cb22 [7k\]: p8 jinkidie [16k\]: w o7 and dead? tapir [1d?\]: cant black make trouble on the right side now? Luhmann: w had sente m6 all the time Matus1 [2k\]: eurogotv time? Nak0r [4k\]: P8 jinkidie [16k\]: sry b 07 and dead? YusufS [2k\]: jinkidie white is 100% alive thekaiser [1d\]: d13 or m6 msanthrope [2k\]: if white played m6 he may have died thlugh mcw85 [7k\]: O7 kills a stone, maybe. Finn [2k\]: is komi 6,5?? Sakeus [-\]: komi 8 mcw85 [7k\]: Komi 8 Arhiman [3k\]: 8 Finn [2k\]: oh Vondel [2k\]: still all geert fans were excited .... Finn [2k\]: thx^^ Reiter101 [-\]: 7.5 Tulkas [11k\]: lol looking on other games^^ EuroGoTV2 [-\]: komi is 8 yakito [3k\]: a11 Reiter101 [-\]: 8? EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yes 8 msanthrope [2k\]: 7.5 ? Reiter101 [-\]: not .5? Senki [2d\]: there can be jigo? grafzahl [11k?\]: 8o.O? Sebastian [2k\]: guess b is behind Mousqueton [1d\]: japanese rules ? Damaging [16k\]: why so big? EuroGoTV2 [-\]: b wins with jigo msanthrope [2k\]: is it chinese rules ? YusufS [2k\]: black wins ties Finn [2k\]: then w is leading luda [11k\]: black has to M6, but he also has to T8 just9x9 [-\]: 8 komi b wins jigo, ing stuff jinkidie [16k\]: o7 m6 m7 l6..... Dogen [5k\]: so if B wins, it's the same as 7.5 msanthrope [2k\]: no msanthrope [2k\]: t 8 msanthrope [2k\]: lol Sebastian [2k\]: b has komi? kenji1993 [16k?\]: i believe this is korean rules with 6.5 moku? weirdchess [5k\]: its effectively komi of 7.5, since black wins ties (this was just mentioned like 4 times) Luhmann: t8 bigger imo msanthrope [2k\]: ha that isnt much MOCbKA [1d\]: W wins! EuroGoTV2 [-\]: the result has no .5 in it EuroGoTV2 [-\]: that's the difference Sebastian [2k\]: has b or w the komi? Luhmann: b Luhmann: lol jinkidie [16k\]: ach makes 2nd eye with ease EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w has the komi gildude [7k\]: teeheehee Sakeus [-\]: white has komi lol Matus1 [2k\]: time? just9x9 [-\]: how is the result when jigo on board? b+0 ? lol gargl: so if black just barely wins its b+0 ? sleepygirl: I would R15 gargl: ^^ mcw85 [7k\]: What's a komi? Reiter101 [-\]: lol yakito [3k\]: ^^ yakito [3k\]: google :p Damaging [16k\]: Even I know that :) gildude [7k\]: y is go taken so seriously? msanthrope [2k\]: its the baby way of saying comb luda [11k\]: komi means commitee kenji1993 [16k?\]: its probably the oldest board game in existence lol gildude [7k\]: wait why does a 7k not know what a komi is O_O Luhmann: e12 yakito [3k\]: dont know ^^ Mousqueton [1d\]: a11 Luhmann: or t8 choboco [1k\]: white ahead? Gary34 [4k?\]: 9x9, jigo on board = w+8 :p Damaging [16k\]: backgammon is older Luhmann: a11 dosnt work lol gildude [7k\]: i hungry Luhmann: a11 a9 Finn [2k\]: yes with komi ] ;B[qe] ;W[re]C[kenji1993 [16k?\]: how old is backgammon lol? sleepygirl: yes, my move just9x9 [-\]: oh right gary... Munters: backgammon is not older Sebastian [2k\]: b needs three stones at once to win Munters: Awari is emre35 [4d\]: t8 luda [11k\]: ko !! ] ;B[sl]C[bERt0r [11k\]: doesnt a11 backfire? kenji1993 [16k?\]: Go is like thousands of eyars old Munters: and the game of ur is older (probably) choboco [1k\]: a11 a9 a10 msanthrope [2k\]: s 11 threat now ? Damaging [16k\]: and backgammon is like more thousands goingonow [16k\]: 2500 to 4000 thekaiser [1d\]: b is 2 points behind luda [11k\]: the British created go msanthrope [2k\]: r 1`5 was tricky EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 Sakeus [-\]: go is old 4 000 years :) Luhmann: monopoly is the oldes game kenji1993 [16k?\]: world of warcraft is older what? yakito [3k\]: q10 first thekaiser [1d\]: but if he plays well Asaliuru [21k\]: 4 thousands choboco [1k\]: the oldest game is called "bones" qgo [4k\]: ko? choboco [1k\]: you throw bones and if they look funny you win Larrave [3k\]: r11 probably msanthrope [2k\]: yes bone tossing Sebastian [2k\]: 4000? for real? Sakeus [-\]: yes Damaging [16k\]: oldest game is running probably ] ;W[rh]C[Luhmann: o bones , yeah Larrave [3k\]: oh^^ mcw85 [7k\]: The oldest game is "don't die of starvation." msanthrope [2k\]: lol choboco [1k\]: running came after bones gildude [7k\]: this game is really intense o.o qgo [4k\]: no ko sleepygirl: the oldest game is "war" msanthrope [2k\]: bones started as a way to tell the future Vondel [2k\]: a11 Sakeus [-\]: :) Damaging [16k\]: Nah msanthrope [2k\]: though choboco [1k\]: already apes on 4 hands not running yet had bones duha: the oldest gam is "get laid" msanthrope [2k\]: hahaha czubek [9k\]: is it still the same game^^ i felt asleep, like half a bottle of pepsi ago ^^ Damaging [16k\]: duah wins Sebastian [2k\]: thats no game :D choboco [1k\]: nah, bones!^^ kenji1993 [16k?\]: the oldest game is jacking off mcw85 [7k\]: ... expat [4d?\]: amazing that SE can still miscount at this stage :P Gary34 [4k?\]: czubek, good thing you didn't drown :) tirebuchon [4k\]: j14 for w invert [7k\]: the oldest game is "its no funny anymore" Vondel [2k\]: if b can get a11 and q19.. thekaiser [1d\]: a11 Jadeite [?\]: duha, get food / not be killed Sebastian [2k\]: guy in black funny position kenji1993 [16k?\]: white is still going to win lol luda [11k\]: the oldest game is "avoid eating the apple" kenji1993 [16k?\]: all that bible stuff is dumb duha: not so interesting, Jadeite maminti [4k\]: guy in black funny position - he is Cornel Luhmann: luda. read the bible again pls Damaging [16k\]: I have no clue who is behind yakito [3k\]: b2? goingonow [16k\]: the oldest game is what all of you are doing right now Sebastian [2k\]: bible is like football msanthrope [2k\]: c 12 ? thekaiser [1d\]: m6 is huge kenji1993 [16k?\]: bible is for rolling joints luda [11k\]: why, Luhmann ? Luhmann: oldest game was : here comes the light" Jadeite [?\]: duha, try not eating for a week or so, you will soon find it "interesting" ;-) mcw85 [7k\]: Kenji, watch it. yakito [3k\]: bilble is lame =) ekku [-\]: kenji, it tastes quite bad that way :P nosebleed [2k\]: or wiping your rear when you run outta tp cb22 [7k\]: i'm sure a sacrifice at R9 could get useful after p8... ] ;B[ln] ;W[gq] ;B[gr] ;W[eq] ;B[gp]C[Sebastian [2k\]: action kenji1993 [16k?\]: well luda [11k\]: B2 expat [4d?\]: i think w+5 Dogen [5k\]: ooh, big ko kenji1993 [16k?\]: that was a quick 4 turns or so kenji1993 [16k?\]: yeah nice ko lol ] ;W[hk]C[tirebuchon [4k\]: a10 ] ;B[ik] ;W[gq]C[duha: try not having sex for a week (and no self help), Jadeite kenji1993 [16k?\]: bam bam ko again ] ;B[eh]C[Sebastian [2k\]: fun ko ] ;W[ei] ;B[gp]C[Jadeite [?\]: easier kenji1993 [16k?\]: that piece is going to be important lol choboco [1k\]: duha iam 11 year old can you explain what you mean with self help? duha: respect Damaging [16k\]: duha, i'm not having sex for a month ] ;W[ii] ;B[ij]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: no self help sounds funny ;) ] ;W[gq]C[Damaging [16k\]: I'm 3 weeks now Damaging [16k\]: and no self help Sebastian [2k\]: geez get a room InsanePat [-\]: please keep the comments to the game msanthrope [2k\]: brings a whle new meaning to self help tapes mcw85 [7k\]: Maybe we should get back to the game? Sakeus [-\]: b e5 Damaging [16k\]: Yeah choboco [1k\]: picnic ko msanthrope [2k\]: or self help dvds Luhmann: s14 Damaging [16k\]: black needs to win that ko right? givusaqiki [4k\]: k1? expat [4d?\]: this ko is not worth it for black Elendar [1d\]: black already lose ] ;B[ai]C[Mikkie [10k\]: л1 nosebleed [2k\]: k2 better Mikkie [10k\]: k1 Vondel [2k\]: Ifind It hard to believe B played M6, is this realy bigger/more urgent/more dangerous taht a11 ? sleepygirl: k2 better than k1 Damaging [16k\]: Hmmm ] ;W[ah]C[qgo [4k\]: good move choboco [1k\]: a11 doesnt look good to me choboco [1k\]: gives white more threats aswell Luhmann: a11 just dosnt work Arhiman [3k\]: e6 good threat for white ] ;B[aj]C[tapir [1d?\]: d13 was a threat, but not after a11 exchange. bERt0r [11k\]: uh thekaiser [1d\]: show time kukulis4 [2d\]: white may begin second ko at a8 IGoofy [1d\]: high stakes go ] ;W[bg]C[Luhmann: wow weirdchess [5k\]: b13 needed? Luhmann: b wins???? ] ;B[gp]C[choboco [1k\]: dont trust SE luhmann tirebuchon [4k\]: b9 ] ;W[hb]C[tirebuchon [4k\]: and another ko? ] ;B[ga]C[expat [4d?\]: if b wins the ko he will have 3 points, if he connects, 2 points yakito [3k\]: rah ] ;W[gq]C[yakito [3k\]: F2 come on ^^ choboco [1k\]: j14 area no points expat [4d?\]: i don't see how it makes a difference TonyTiger [3d\]: white has to be winning because of his passive plays mcw85 [7k\]: B1e needed. Luhmann: i never just se yet choboco dmwit [2k\]: b13 needed; bb12 through b14, then d13 Luhmann: i ask my bones ] ;B[fr]C[choboco [1k\]: your bones lied then choboco [1k\]: w looks winning by a few now choboco [1k\]: maybe 4 tirebuchon [4k\]: b9 thekaiser [1d\]: a8 is free sleepygirl: a8 emre35 [4d\]: w+5 Vondel [2k\]: mm Vondel [2k\]: still KlerChazal [-\]: i'd say w+5-10 expat [4d?\]: yeah w+5 Damaging [16k\]: how can you guys see such things czubek [9k\]: white is wining, coz white is pro period luda [11k\]: wHITE +8 expat [4d?\]: count, damaging choboco [1k\]: counting damaging Momogo [3d\]: b9 Damaging [16k\]: No clue how to count expat [4d?\]: 1 2 3 just9x9 [-\]: 1,2,3,... expat [4d?\]: :P thekaiser [1d\]: lol luda [11k\]: lol barakeel [1d\]: )) goingonow [16k\]: same here Damaging [16k\]: So much! Damaging [16k\]: Crazy dudes choboco [1k\]: lol degbu: 1,2,3 also in italy >_< choboco [1k\]: its not even 100 each Newstyle [5k\]: l14? choboco [1k\]: not hard to count ftroiset [2d\]: I count b winning by 2 expat [4d?\]: it's around 40 each luda [11k\]: in France it stops after 10 czubek [9k\]: wow, thats a nice female there :) Luhmann: link pls! bERt0r [11k\]: how many points are b9? ] ;W[bk]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: I counted 40 points for white and 48 points for black ] ;B[ak]C[Sakeus [-\]: komi>? choboco [1k\]: ~45 for black (without pris) Elendar [1d\]: damn KlerChazal [-\]: b9 is an horrible ko for b expat [4d?\]: w starting another ko? :-O thekaiser [1d\]: ko thekaiser [1d\]: koooooooo Lakanal [11k\]: Nice female ? Oh are you that hungry ? ] ;W[dj]C[thekaiser [1d\]: xD TeeSushi [3d\]: my gosh ] ;B[cl] ;W[al] ;B[am]C[Larrave [3k\]: wow^^ expat [4d?\]: w must have counted his ko threats carefully Meareal [4k\]: q2 czubek [9k\]: she is alright expat [4d?\]: is this necessary??? choboco [1k\]: ~48 for white choboco [1k\]: without pris ] ;W[gb] ;B[fa]C[choboco [1k\]: but ahrd to read all yose correct ] ;W[al]C[MOCbKA [1d\]: hanami ko for W Larrave [3k\]: jesus Newstyle [5k\]: e6 good ko treat? ] ;B[qg] ;W[rf]C[luda [11k\]: game over ] ;B[am]C[Newstyle [5k\]: threat ] ;W[fb] ;B[ea] ;W[al]C[weirdchess [5k\]: no no, e6 terrible threat yakito [3k\]: :s weirdchess [5k\]: makes the ko worthless for white Nak0r [4k\]: k1 yakito [3k\]: l1 .? ] ;B[js] ;W[jr]C[Lakanal [11k\]: pic nic ko for white ] ;B[am]C[KlerChazal [-\]: e6 is not a threat Newstyle [5k\]: thanks czubek [9k\]: are they gonna review game afterwards? ] ;W[ec]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: q2 yithril [2d\]: i think the spectators should do the wave mcw85 [7k\]: Don't think so. yithril [2d\]: or the monkey ] ;B[hc]C[choboco [1k\]: at egc they should i am not sure they do online yithril [2d\]: whichever they find funnier ] ;W[al]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Yithril, you start. thekaiser [1d\]: h17... just9x9 [-\]: h17? weirdchess [5k\]: h17 is weird, over g17, yithril [2d\]: whooo! esko [1k\]: wasnt g17 better? MoogleOo [-\]: P17 just9x9 [-\]: gives another threat there... luda [11k\]: brillant sequence for white Larrave [3k\]: its the same weirdchess [5k\]: it gives white another ko threat yakito [3k\]: q9 mcw85 [7k\]: Don't you feel silly now? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+R choboco [1k\]: q9 too small?! just9x9 [-\]: thx euro yakito [3k\]: yeah ^^ expat [4d?\]: aww TeeSushi [3d\]: thanks euro :D Vondel [2k\]: is H17 correct?? G 17 seems better (one less threat? KlerChazal [-\]: thanks euro yakito [3k\]: q 9 small of course choboco [1k\]: q9 w ignoes then w gets d7 aswell yithril [2d\]: i didnt hear him expat [4d?\]: shame we did not get this one counted :( yakito [3k\]: yep Lakanal [11k\]: Can't test the pro :-) weirdchess [5k\]: g17 better, as far as I see yithril [2d\]: he's supposed to cry yithril [2d\]: and bawl kukulis4 [2d\]: black doesnt find a threat ? MOCbKA [1d\]: B must resign Larrave [3k\]: did he resign? yithril [2d\]: his spirit isn't crushed! yithril [2d\]: i want my money back TeeSushi [3d\]: wuhoo would be grat if alex is at least top3 player in the end yakito [3k\]: yes resign Jadeite [?\]: Cornel expat [4d?\]: thank you, eurogo! Vondel [2k\]: geert did well qgo [4k\]: thanks for broadcasting Euro cu Newstyle [5k\]: SE still b+13.5 Crowno [10k?\]: thanks choboco [1k\]: noone resigned until eurogotv says so Damaging [16k\]: Geert resigned? mcw85 [7k\]: Thanks, EGTV1. Vondel [2k\]: clap clap, nice game :) Larrave [3k\]: whos the one behind black choboco [1k\]: ah, he did say so^^ Luhmann: s18 Aiso [10k\]: end? choboco [1k\]: EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+R Luhmann: but to small Asaliuru [21k\]: se is stupis msanthrope [2k\]: i have black 61 white 62 .5 Aiso [10k\]: eeeeee NitramF [3k\]: result??? Aiso [10k\]: diner win Aiso [10k\]: reatreat Arhiman [3k\]: w+5 Draak [1d\]: thx eurogotv choboco [1k\]: antrophe thats like 15 too much for both choboco [1k\]: how did you count^^ choboco [1k\]: ah well, i counted without pris Luhmann: 1.2.17.18 msanthrope [2k\]: onm y fingers ? msanthrope [2k\]: what kind of silly question is that luda [11k\]: and now white can have dinner peacefully Dekachan [10k\]: anticlimatic macgill [2k\]: b lose the ko HandA [2k\]: Don't think w is behind msanthrope [2k\]: very crefully Damaging [16k\]: Who resigned? macgill [2k\]: now , w is ahead msanthrope [2k\]: i have white by 1.5 maybe i off HandA [2k\]: *B Reym: w+R bERt0r [11k\]: :P now white won Arhiman [3k\]: B resigned Damaging [16k\]: Ok, thanks Luhmann: he did? Luhmann: pls dont take nonsense here Luhmann: talk* Luhmann: he resigned? goingonow [16k\]: did anyone see his pants EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thx for watching; cu all thursday goingonow [16k\]: on back czubek [9k\]: im gonna mis this boring gramp :( Jadeite [?\]: Black resigned Luhmann: o ok^ HandA [2k\]: W+RESIGN Munters: Black is angry now msanthrope [2k\]: p7 was questionable it seems MOCbKA [1d\]: W was ahead without ko 5-6 pts Sakae [-\]: mhm msanthrope [2k\]: o 12 got white the game im Sakae [-\]: Diner is strong! :o MOCbKA [1d\]: Diner Forever! Nirdosh [9k\]: )) Rolf [13k\]: thanks EuroGoTV1 kenji1993 [16k?\]: TOLD YOU kenji1993 [16k?\]: are they still playing? globax [4d\]: thx eugotv1 ])