(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Chinese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[9000]OT[1x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Go Congress 2009 round 7 board 2]PW[Jun Sang-Youn]PB[Hwang In-Seong]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2009-08-04]EV[European Go Congress 2009 round 7 board 2]RO[7]PC[Groningen, The Netherlands]US[E. Wester]
;B[qd]
;W[dp]
;B[pq]C[mmok: ah wondering where this was..
]
;W[dc]
;B[fq]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Good morning
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Had to take care of some other stuff, so started a little late
che [-\]: Wrogn players
che [-\]: b is In-Seong no?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Yes, thanks for pointing out
]
;W[hq]C[Gaijin [6k\]: is game active?
Gaijin [6k\]: nm
]
;B[cn]
;W[fp]
;B[cq]
;W[dq]
;B[cp]
;W[do]
;B[cr]
;W[dr]C[jewel [1k\]: Why does black play C2 and not D2? To get sente?
]
;B[de]
;W[od]C[che [-\]: yes
TeeSushi [3d\]: if black d2 white might capture d2 stone or c6 stone
TeeSushi [3d\]: not sure if it would be good though ^^
]
;B[oc]
;W[nc]
;B[pc]
;W[nd]
;B[qf]
;W[gc]C[che [-\]: k16 for b now?
che [-\]: seems to loose
]
;B[cc]
;W[cb]
;B[cd]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: i think iits faster than k16 or k17 by white
]
;W[jd]C[che [-\]: now it looks like w succeeded
wanda [1k\]: isnt B generally too low ?
Renju [-\]: looks fine to me
]
;B[kq]C[wanda [1k\]: more on 3rd line
]
;W[qn]
;B[qp]C[che [-\]: board still looks well balanced to me
che [-\]: B's plan is r9 r11 p6 q7 r7 o4 I guess
]
;W[qk]C[nhanh [1d\]: both positions low
che [-\]: secure positions
TakokaT [4k\]: lol eurogotv moved to this game, cuz other game is boring :P
FishGo [3k\]: r11 bigger than c10 perhaps
]
;B[pl]C[JohnSmith [1k\]: b18 is a resign move, black should avoid it at all cost!
che [-\]: b18 small atm
]
;W[ql]
;B[pn]C[JohnSmith [1k\]: Even later!
che [-\]: nobody knows what will happen later
JohnSmith [1k\]: Cause then black would have all four corners
che [-\]: proverb: dont follow proverbs
]
;W[pd]C[che [-\]: oh that is paradox
]
;B[qc]C[goingonow [16k\]: ingenius
JohnSmith [1k\]: Quite right!
]
;W[pm]
;B[om]
;W[qm]C[Oloril [1k\]: proveb: I could never figure out how this game works let's go get a steak
]
;B[on]C[che [-\]: how to protect this cut?
che [-\]: ok
]
;W[ch]C[just9x9 [-\]: l3 feels cramped now to me
che [-\]: w forces b into the corner?
che [-\]: I dont understand the timing of q16-r17 exchange
]
;B[eb]C[FishGo [3k\]: something to do with m18 invasion
FishGo [3k\]: maybe
Muscadet [?\]: b has serveral ways to answer q16. The way  he did w has a nice move at r12 and b still chances to invade at m18
]
;W[db]
;B[ec]
;W[ed]
;B[dd]
;W[fc]
;B[ee]
;W[fd]
;B[bb]
;W[fb]
;B[ca]
;W[ea]C[che [-\]: d10 too ambitious now?
]
;B[ck]
;W[be]
;B[bd]
;W[bj]C[OrangeRage [4k\]: l5 r11 b9 are big for black?
]
;B[bg]
;W[bk]C[che [-\]: b13 typical for b. Yesterday ha played a very similar move
Chilltime [2k\]: w seems to be leading
che [-\]: b has 4 corners and good access to the center while w has only the top and a weak group on the left.
che [-\]: I like b
Cassis0 [5d\]: hard shape for black 
hfghgh: b good
Cassis0 [5d\]: he cannot c8
]
;B[cl]C[che [-\]: he can
Cassis0 [5d\]: lol
Cassis0 [5d\]: d6
che [-\]: d6 b8 ?
hfghgh: look at w g17 - what it is?!)))))))))
hfghgh: is it good)))
hfghgh: ?
hfghgh: w losing
che [-\]: i am afraid i have to clean my caht :(
]
;W[qh]C[hfghgh: b have no problem right now
hfghgh: e12!
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w: 1:59, b: 1:37
golgo13 [12k\]: this is more exciting
Cassis0 [5d\]: tenuki Oo
]
;B[ir]C[hfghgh: just kill white's 3 stones!
nosebleed [2k\]: not so easy
che [-\]: first get some power by attacking these
nosebleed [2k\]: b just protecting invasion point/sholderhit
nosebleed [2k\]: no?
]
;W[lp]C[nosebleed [2k\]: lol
hfghgh: cool
]
;B[kp]
;W[lo]C[nosebleed [2k\]: n2 or h2 ?
hfghgh: white don't answer to any black move))
]
;B[ko]
;W[ln]
;B[gq]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: b is pounding the stones harder and harder on the board
nosebleed [2k\]: twack!
che [-\]: the big fight started
]
;W[gp]
;B[hr]C[nosebleed [2k\]: poor w 3 weak groups
BoGoss [2k\]: at least 1 could die...
hfghgh: looks like white don't know what he doing
che [-\]: OK, I will turn my volume control to full blast when it is b's move
]
;W[gm]C[hfghgh: he has 3 weak groups
hfghgh: now will be karami atack!!!
lemming [-\]: what's that?
hfghgh: maybe k7?
che [-\]: or k8 ?
]
;B[jm]
;W[ll]C[nosebleed [2k\]: b only has to make sure center doesnt get big and he wins
hfghgh: it would be fan if white destroyed all black's territory and black gain nothing)
nosebleed [2k\]: hard to destroy b's terriory...its mostly solid
goingonow [16k\]: whoa thats a big center
]
;B[ho]C[che [-\]: tenzuki at o9 would be fun nwo
Renju [-\]: wont be big probably, full of openings
Enigmatic [5k\]: center looks like close to 0 points :P
]
;W[hp]C[Enigmatic [5k\]: at least if w wants to live everywhere
]
;B[io]C[Renju [-\]: yes, Ws weak groups are troublesome
]
;W[em]C[nosebleed [2k\]: lots of aji around b7 
hfghgh: i think finally black force white to sacrifice 3 left stones
nosebleed [2k\]: i doubt that
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w: 1:51, b: 1:24
hfghgh: white can't save all
Renju [-\]: all the B aji on left will at least make the 3 stones useful
Hideto [3k\]: g9 ?
hfghgh: just make d6-e6 in sente and there are no aji
nosebleed [2k\]: b7 b8 c7 d7 d6 d8 c5 b6 b5 or b7 c7 b8 in sente
nosebleed [2k\]: because of b5 
nosebleed [2k\]: d6 e6 helps w make eye shape
nosebleed [2k\]: but might be best way to fix problem
nosebleed [2k\]: although i like b8 more
]
;B[dn]
;W[en]
;B[ek]C[nosebleed [2k\]: heh
hfghgh: b8 good but to defensive i think
nosebleed [2k\]: you were right^^
hfghgh: )
]
;W[fk]
;B[fj]
;W[gk]C[hfghgh: E12!!!
che [-\]: In every game of this egc I watch I have the feeling that b is the more active player through the whole game
jewel [1k\]: I thought B12
hfghgh: Hwang former 1st class insei 
nosebleed [2k\]: i like e12 too
hfghgh: he is very strong
]
;B[eh]C[hfghgh: i like that guy)
hfghgh: he think like me
]
;W[bm]
;B[bn]C[Dumbledore [11k?\]: intense game
nosebleed [2k\]: *waits for 7d magic to come to life*
hfghgh: tesuji time
nosebleed [2k\]: reading l&d in corner
hfghgh: white must found it or he lose game
]
;W[eg]C[nosebleed [2k\]: heh
hfghgh: very fast)
hfghgh: probably white has a plan
GoKirby [-\]: f13
nosebleed [2k\]: I see lots of fun at e10 
nosebleed [2k\]: maybe w trade for massive wall facing outside?
nosebleed [2k\]: if he can get in sente
Curiot [3k\]: W is just adding some more flesh to the corpes
nosebleed [2k\]: i fear it will not be enough if so
]
;B[fg]C[golgo13 [12k\]: p14 open so no trade
GoKirby [-\]: like i said^^
hfghgh: black won't allow it
che [-\]: power
Curiot [3k\]: two korean amateurs fighting each other in Netherlands is certainly an exotic experience
GoKirby [-\]: E11
golgo13 [12k\]: I was wondering why b played c19 so early
]
;W[fh]C[nosebleed [2k\]: sente and makes eyes
hfghgh: just E11
Curiot [3k\]: yeah just E11
hfghgh: or G12
che [-\]: d12 doesnt work?
hfghgh: d12 f11 e11 g11 d13
hfghgh: sorry first move g12
che [-\]: that seq is  not correct
GoKirby [-\]: just e11
hfghgh: g12 f14
hfghgh: all move good for black)
egc2009gro: e11 is not enough for black...
GoKirby [-\]: waht schould he do instrad?
GoKirby [-\]: what should he do instead
]
;B[ei]C[che [-\]: .9
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: b is agitated
GoKirby [-\]: =P
]
;W[cg]
;B[bf]C[che [-\]: maybe center can grow now too much
GoKirby [-\]: the center is just moyo
che [-\]: f14 
]
;W[ff]
;B[dg]
;W[gg]C[che [-\]: BIG moyo
hfghgh: didn't I told that black will force white to sacrifice 3 left stone?))))))
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: which 3?
che [-\]: b9 b10 c12 
hfghgh: now it 6
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: looks like 6 yes, not 3
GoKirby [-\]: xD
che [-\]: 6 includes 3 though
hfghgh: but when I told it was 3
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: I now declare that one player will force another to sacrifice one stone
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: (or more, but including that one stone :p)
che [-\]: EuroGo thats a tough guess!!!!!
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: haha
hfghgh: read comment to 76 move
hfghgh: white just did some kikasi and it became 6
che [-\]: hfghgh if I'd check all your comments I'd see most of  them were wrong
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: all four stones on the left were sacrificed :P
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w: 1:42, b: 0:57
WonderGoma [4k\]: W wins?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: It certainly is a big mojo
TeeSushi [3d\]: j10 maybe?
hfghgh: che   I dont know why you wrote it
nosebleed [2k\]: i had a feeling w was going for influence
hfghgh: if black can make l9 in sente!!!
]
;B[el]C[quer: w to bad..
hfghgh: black kills white in sente)))
tabla1 [1d\]: b may get about 6570 points on the board... w needs around 60 in the centre.... exchanging the tail of this grp for a bigg centre is likely not enough
tabla1 [1d\]: 65-70*
]
;W[fl]C[hfghgh: 6570 not bad, not bad..)))))
hfghgh: it's hard to lose)))
nosebleed [2k\]: i could find a way
golgo13 [12k\]: invasion at k13
Noelld [13k\]: Where is this board - I'd love to see it lol
yithril [2d\]: i love how u still have the camera on in the us
yithril [2d\]: its 6:30 am here :)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Blame the us eurogo :P
hfghgh: k9
nosebleed [2k\]: good sevurity
nosebleed [2k\]: security*
golgo13 [12k\]: they have 10 viewers
]
;B[jk]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: watching the paint dry?
hfghgh: che  I wait for your comment)))
golgo13 [12k\]: watching who might  be stealing the go set I guess :)
huggy [3k\]: what if they steal the cam first?
]
;W[kj]
;B[jj]C[golgo13 [12k\]: that would be my strategy if I were a thief
]
;W[ji]C[Noelld [13k\]: But maybe there's an unseen camera on the camera
golgo13 [12k\]: thats why they cut off the power to the building first... I saw it in the movies!
huggy [3k\]: p14 any good?
Noelld [13k\]: Dammit! Got them!
nosebleed [2k\]: l7 m7 m9 
Noelld [13k\]: What about looking at H10/11?
golgo13 [12k\]: i thot it was big enuf for deep invasion... now it's too small
]
;B[ii]
;W[ki]C[nosebleed [2k\]: b has almost 50 pts on the left alone
tabla1 [1d\]: (I gave him a conservative 40+)
]
;B[mm]C[hfghgh: 40 not more
tabla1 [1d\]: does this one prepare n2/n3? (and another 10+ points for b)
nosebleed [2k\]: its atleast 40
nosebleed [2k\]: i think this is for shape to ruin possible points in center/right area
tabla1 [1d\]: p14 and j12 are miai (sort-of) .. not enough for w in the centre
hfghgh: suddenly they started thinking..
hfghgh: so fast died at left and then start to think - very wise, very wise..
hfghgh: )
hfghgh: it will be fan if white play m7
Muscadet [?\]: jun can jettison groups in a very strong way. . You can not write him off already
huggy [3k\]: dont understand what w is contemplating here. m7 seems to be mandatory
golgo13 [12k\]: L8???
Muscadet [?\]: can play p4 first or even q5 - p5, p4 - r3 , p3
Muscadet [?\]: can try to play l6 trying  to make a bamboo
mysteries [?\]: possibly j12?
hfghgh: maybe resign?)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Jun came back
]
;W[kn]C[hfghgh: Cut!!!
hfghgh: M7
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w: 1:21, b: 0:43
Youssev [5d\]: m7 seems vry dangerous for w
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: and w heads off again
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Hwang takes a lot of time per move
nosebleed [2k\]: he knows he is ahead
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: once in a while, he jumbles the stones in the bowl
golgo13 [12k\]: I have a feeling N7 is a mistake
egc2009gro: in seong is thinking about m9
nosebleed [2k\]: is this being broadcast via webcam?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no, nosebleed
nosebleed [2k\]: thanks
Gzperi [2k\]: only board 1
nosebleed [2k\]: was looking at your site..havent been there in awhile
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: he might be looking at m9, but he's calculating all around it
nosebleed [2k\]: m9 unlikely over direvt cut?
nosebleed [2k\]: direct*
egc2009gro: m9 => fight
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: he takes another stone from the bowl, so he has 2 in front of him
nosebleed [2k\]: m7 l7 l8 k6 j7 h6 h7 k5 j4 k4 j3 k3 k2 m2 is fight too
nosebleed [2k\]: I like oro's interface where you can post variation trees
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: camera pointed at Hwang
GoShinobi [-\]: go In-seong !!
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w: 1:21, b: 0:24
Gzperi [2k\]: intense thinking !
RikazeMA [24k?\]: EuroGo, do you know what the Timer's are looking like?
]
;B[jn]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: they are looking good
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Sweet, thanks.
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w: 1:20, b: 0:20 in case you were wondering :P
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Heh, thanks!  =D
]
;W[kl]
;B[of]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w pondering m3
]
;W[qo]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: but did not play it
]
;B[po]
;W[op]
;B[pp]
;W[lq]
;B[kr]
;W[or]
;B[pr]
;W[nf]
;B[nb]
;W[mb]
;B[ob]
;W[lc]
;B[ih]C[Pingu007 [3d\]: j 12 looks obvious, but make me wondering about the cut
]
;W[hj]C[Pingu007 [3d\]: how to manage it?
]
;B[ij]
;W[jl]
;B[il]
;W[hl]C[Pingu007 [3d\]: ok, we wont know :)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: nice ko
Pingu007 [3d\]: wow
Gzperi [2k\]: the cut wasnt working at j10 at least
albundy [2k\]: h7 
Pingu007 [3d\]: it was cutting
]
;B[im]
;W[ik]
;B[hk]
;W[rp]
;B[rq]
;W[ik]C[nosebleed [2k\]: h11 
]
;B[gi]
;W[hi]
;B[hk]C[Pingu007 [3d\]: g11 is the shape
]
;W[df]C[Pingu007 [3d\]: not h11
]
;B[dh]
;W[ik]C[albundy [2k\]: h12 seem obvious
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w: 1:17, b: 10:00 mins
nosebleed [2k\]: how long are byo yumi?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 1 min
che [-\]: b WILL WIN THIS GAME
che [-\]: sry for caps
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: b: 7:15 mins left
che [-\]: they have digital clocks no?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yes
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: b: 5:30 left
che [-\]: b counting everything out now
]
;B[ng]C[huggy [3k\]: guess this will w make think long
Gzperi [2k\]: it's accept the trade or not.
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: he has 1:16 left on his clock to think about it :P
huggy [3k\]: not even clear if this is supposed to be a trade
]
;W[hk]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: now it is
che [-\]: atari first
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 2:30 mins left
che [-\]: is there some l&d issue with j2 group?
]
;B[ph]
;W[pi]C[holycarp [-\]: no
]
;B[mf]C[Jocky [3d\]: :D
]
;W[pg]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: somehow button stuck
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: this is the real move
]
;B[qg]C[holycarp [-\]: funny iread somehow bottom suck
]
;W[oh]
;B[og]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: had to unplug mouse, it's acting funny
che [-\]: b seems happy
]
;W[kf]C[RikazeMA [24k?\]: *Sigh*  Technical Glitches suck.
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: b in byoyomi now
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w still 1:14 left
che [-\]: how many periods does he have?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 1
che [-\]: oh#
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: if he goes through, he loses
]
;B[ef]C[huggy [3k\]: how much is byoyomi?
]
;W[so]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 1 min
huggy [3k\]: thx
Gzperi [2k\]: game looks pretty neat for w now ?
holycarp [-\]: very close yeah
]
;B[oq]C[che [-\]: I see no way for w to win
]
;W[nr]
;B[sq]
;W[cs]
;B[br]
;W[rh]C[holycarp [-\]: w have some options i thinks
]
;B[rg]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: b sighs
]
;W[fg]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w stuck out his tongue
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Aww, that's just mean.  =P
]
;B[le]C[che [-\]: what does that mean in Korean gesture?
holycarp [-\]: i gonna eat chu
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: b sits on his leg again
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: maybe to get a better view
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w: 1:09 hours left
]
;W[lg]
;B[ke]
;W[je]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: crazy mouse again
]
;B[nk]C[che [-\]: switch off your touchpad maybe
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Ohh, yeah, that can cause conflicts with a mouse.
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: done
]
;W[dm]C[RikazeMA [24k?\]: If that doesn't help...  Just time to get a new one I guess...
che [-\]: or ask a cat to educate your mouse well
]
;B[cm]C[RikazeMA [24k?\]: Make sure the cat has also been pre-educated by a dog, by a goat, by a cow, etc etc.
holycarp [-\]: i hate optical mouse i have to buy a new one each 6 months or so
]
;W[nq]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: hovered over m2 first
che [-\]: optical mouse is bad on a glass table
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: I have a piece of paper as mat
che [-\]: :)
che [-\]: q9 now
]
;B[pk]C[che [-\]: ^^
]
;W[sg]
;B[sf]
;W[sh]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w is shaking his head
]
;B[pf]
;W[lr]C[che [-\]: hum
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: wonder if b has to go live now
che [-\]: my actual count has w ahead
EuroGoTV2 [-\]:  5 secs
]
;B[bs]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: played just before flag
]
;W[go]C[KlerChazal [-\]: u mean "current" che
]
;B[hn]C[che [-\]: of course
KlerChazal [-\]: ;)
]
;W[ps]
;B[qs]
;W[os]
;B[qr]
;W[fi]
;B[gj]C[A1R [8k\]: b will lose?
]
;W[no]
;B[ph]C[MildPeril [2d\]: B not get enough for Ko methinks...
]
;W[dl]
;B[dk]
;W[pg]
;B[fe]
;W[ge]
;B[ph]
;W[cf]
;B[ce]
;W[pg]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 5 secs
]
;B[ds]
;W[fr]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w has 1:03 hours
]
;B[gr]
;W[er]
;B[ph]
;W[ej]
;B[dj]
;W[pg]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 10 secs
]
;B[sp]
;W[ro]
;B[ph]
;W[iq]
;B[jq]
;W[pg]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 10 secs
]
;B[ne]
;W[ml]
;B[nl]
;W[oj]
;B[lf]
;W[lh]
;B[ld]
;W[kc]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 10 secs
]
;B[ph]
;W[ok]
;B[ol]
;W[pg]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 10 secs
]
;B[md]
;W[mc]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: he plays when the clock beeps at 10
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 5 secs
]
;B[pj]
;W[qj]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: seems like white is winning by 2-4 pts maybe
]
;B[nj]C[derp [1k\]: how fast are w's moves?
]
;W[oi]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: not lightning fast
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: and he just shook the board with a knee tesuji
TeeSushi [3d\]: ah kneesuji?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: indeed
iampuh [1d\]: hahaha
derp [1k\]: I rarely get to do those online
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 5 secs
]
;B[oo]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: he had 1 left as he pushed the clock
]
;W[np]C[Boogeyman [3k\]: w
Boogeyman [3k\]: w+1
]
;B[lj]
;W[lk]C[che [-\]: uberclose
che [-\]: but I think w winning
]
;B[li]
;W[gh]
;B[ej]C[nosebleed [2k\]: o6 
]
;W[mh]
;B[mi]C[quer: W 1.5+ i guess
A1R [8k\]: why so close?
quer: i count it
nosebleed [2k\]: because w reduced b bottom right and cut off 5 stones
wintogo [7d\]: w won
wintogo [7d\]: yes
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w 0:50 left
]
;W[nh]
;B[ma]
;W[la]
;B[na]
;W[pe]
;B[qe]C[che [-\]: I counted w+1
yoshiro [2k\]: b+2
mcw85 [7k\]: B in BY?
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Yeah
nosebleed [2k\]: yes
KlerChazal [-\]: for a long time
che [-\]: I hoped for b to win the tournament :(
duduu [8k\]: I hope black win.  he was and then played strangely.As far as a 8k can say
KlerChazal [-\]: all with breakfast now :)
Larrave [3k\]: hm
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;W[ks]C[Larrave [3k\]: white nervous or why so many stones in front of him?XD
Damaging [16k\]: he always does that
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;B[js]
;W[ls]C[Damaging [16k\]: c12 dead right?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yes
nosebleed [2k\]: g6 
Larrave [3k\]: white winning or?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: supposedly with 1 point
IGoofy [1d\]: ms duck
RikazeMA [24k?\]: I think it's close...
nosebleed [2k\]: very close
Larrave [3k\]: ah hm
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 5 secs
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;B[fs]C[RikazeMA [24k?\]: I can't really tell for sure, but I think the battle in the bottom middle is going to decide it...
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;W[es]C[nosebleed [2k\]: *doesnt like f1*
MildPeril [2d\]: what is komi?
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;B[fn]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 8
Pingu007 [3d\]: wow
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;W[fm]C[bguyi: sorry who won? the 3p o 6d?
Pingu007 [3d\]: funny
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Komi is the handicap.
che [-\]: thats the win for b?
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;B[gn]C[legendia [2k\]: 3p
TeeSushi [3d\]: i guess so
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;W[gs]C[bguyi: Ah ok thx :)
che [-\]: f5 
RikazeMA [24k?\]: Or rather, the points given to even the game.
czubek [9k\]: who is  this girl ? is she pro
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;B[fo]
;W[eo]C[mcw85 [7k\]: In-Seong's girlfirned.
MildPeril [2d\]: oh my
nosebleed [2k\]: j4 
che [-\]: nice girl he has :)
A1R [8k\]: all dudes ask for nina why
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;B[hh]C[nosebleed [2k\]: lol
A1R [8k\]: just because ahe is nice?
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;W[hs]C[czubek [9k\]: nice indeed, for fat nerd ^^
TeeSushi [3d\]: lol
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;B[ip]C[Larrave [3k\]: in seong is the left one t.t
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;W[ep]C[Damaging [16k\]: how old are the players?
A1R [8k\]: b is 26
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w is very unhappy
Greyish [1d\]: resign drawing near
TeeSushi [3d\]: yes b won i guess
barakeel [1d\]: has to capture now
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;B[hg]C[DrZoom [5k\]: f4 is dead?
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;W[gf]C[jinkidie [16k\]: male or femal?
MildPeril [2d\]: what an end game coup
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: both male
Larrave [3k\]: jesus
Larrave [3k\]: just killing j 12 might be big
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;B[kd]C[Greyish [1d\]: i think w won
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: still?
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;W[jc]C[che [-\]: B winning now
TeeSushi [3d\]: i think b pulled of a win :D
Greyish [1d\]: ko
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;B[co]C[barakeel [1d\]: no ko
jinkidie [16k\]: she's holding one of those pro fans
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;W[mn]C[che [-\]: semedori
TeeSushi [3d\]: its no pro fan ... i got such a fan myself
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;B[is]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: me too
czubek [9k\]: how pro fan looks like then?
rubic [16k?\]: could you pls give me the link?
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;W[hf]C[jinkidie [16k\]: very profeesional
czubek [9k\]: does it have joseki sequences on it?
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;B[fs]C[che [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
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;W[gs]C[rubic [16k?\]: thx
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: I think she bought it last year
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;B[cs]C[Boogeyman [3k\]: b win
nosebleed [2k\]: w lose now
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;W[ph]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: in Sweden
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;B[hs]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w went away
nosebleed [2k\]: everyone who used SE isnt understanding its based on 0.5 komi...komi actually is 8
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: as you can see on the feed now ;)
czubek [9k\]: 8?
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;W[fs]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 8 komi
nosebleed [2k\]: yes 8
expat [4d?\]: the SGF feed has komi set to 7.5
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;B[jr]
;W[jh]
;B[ni]C[expat [4d?\]: so SE should use 7.5
czubek [9k\]: wow, since when?
TeeSushi [3d\]: black pls 2
TeeSushi [3d\]: B+2
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: missclicked, so I lost it
nosebleed [2k\]: if you look at rules it says 0.5
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;W[mk]
;B[mj]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: but its actually 8 
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;W[ig]C[expat [4d?\]: no it doesn't
expat [4d?\]: it says 7.5
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;B[lm]
;W[km]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: if you know the correct rules
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;B[nm]
;W[nn]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: look at the egc site
expat [4d?\]: look on the third tab of the game info
nosebleed [2k\]: I'm loking at rules right now
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;B[eq]C[nosebleed [2k\]: says 0.5
Boogeyman [3k\]: b win?
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;W[kk]C[RikazeMA [24k?\]: The .5 part of Komi is important.
A1R [8k\]: b has won?
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;B[ba]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: its simplified ing rules with 8 komi
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;W[da]
;B[hm]C[expat [4d?\]: nosebleed you are looking at the result instead of the komi
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: They are counting now
yoshiro [2k\]: b+2
czubek [9k\]: what are they talking about?
A1R [8k\]: ah
bguyi: who win???
TeeSushi [3d\]: n13 p15 
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;W[mg]C[nosebleed [2k\]: thanks expat
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;B[oe]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: black win
Greyish [1d\]: w lost something like 5 points with this semedori... but may be enough
TeeSushi [3d\]: 2 points
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: They aren't counting fully yet
TeeSushi [3d\]: why are they counting japanese style?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: analyzing
meuns [2k\]: ^^'
bguyi: but komi 8?
bguyi: y el 0,5
bguyi: ¿?
Wizzos [2k\]: w+1?
TeeSushi [3d\]: yes komi 8
legendia [2k\]: so who win ^^
derp [1k\]: b+4, seems
bguyi: and the 0,5 
YusufS [2k\]: yeah I'm getting b+2
bguyi: para los empates?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: black won
yoshiro [2k\]: b+2
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: but I don't know by how much yet
A1R [8k\]: YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
che [-\]: b+3
Wizzos [2k\]: oh i forgot the stones
czubek [9k\]: hehe the fan team )
derp [1k\]: or b+3, sorry
Wizzos [2k\]: i have w so far ahead, im depressed by my counting
TeeSushi [3d\]: i guess w resigned?
expat [4d?\]: i quickly counted b+3 mhm
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: b+3 according to them
TeeSushi [3d\]: they didnt counted with ing rules
nosebleed [2k\]: b 71+12-8= 75
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: So official result: b+3
expat [4d?\]: i don't think the top group uses ing rules right?
TeeSushi [3d\]: it does
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: they do
che [-\]: THanks for Broadcasting
Olmerek [10k\]: thx
Damaging [16k\]: Thanks eurogotv
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: but if they agree on a result, it's ok
yanopel [3d\]: ty
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: see you thursday
expat [4d?\]: ah i see
AURELIE46 [3d\]: ^^
TeeSushi [3d\]: yeah thanks for the broadcast
expat [4d?\]: thx
A1R [8k\]: tomorrow broadcast?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: perhaps if there's something special tomorrow
A1R [8k\]: team tournament?
A1R [8k\]: ok
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: main round is thursday at least
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: byebye
czubek [9k\]: can you put this camra to the female toilet now ^^
Greyish [1d\]: so e1 was the losing move, impressive from b to have pulled this out
RikazeMA [24k?\]: That was epic from start to finish...
nosebleed [2k\]: w=52+20=70
nosebleed [2k\]: so 3 points
jackyyan [1d\]: w + 12.5
nosebleed [2k\]: i mean 72
RikazeMA [24k?\]: I was really wondering if B'd pull the win there...
nosebleed [2k\]: se hella broken
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