(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[9000]OT[1x60 byo-yomi] GN[European Go Congress 2009 round 9 board 3]PW[Rob van Zeijst]PB[Oh Chi-Min]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2009-08-07]EV[main]RO[9]PC[Groningen, Netherlands]WT[NL]BT[KR]US[kamyszyn]C[tornemhi [1d\]: ho chi min :D ] ;B[pd]C[tornemhi [1d\]: eurogo tornemhi [1d\]: where is oh chi min from EuroGoTV3 [-\]: korea tornemhi [1d\]: tx ] ;W[dc] ;B[pq] ;W[co] ;B[dq] ;W[ep] ;B[eq] ;W[gp] ;B[fp] ;W[fo] ;B[fq] ;W[go] ;B[cp] ;W[bo] ;B[hq] ;W[di] ;B[de] ;W[fd] ;B[cc] ;W[cb] ;B[cd]C[qgo [4k\]: good morning all ViperDee [4k\]: morning ViperDee [4k\]: ik heb rob nog nooit zien spelen ViperDee [4k\]: fantastisch ViperDee [4k\]: how old is oh chi-min tv3? ] ;W[bb] ;B[cg] ;W[bh]C[Lepenski [1k\]: result round and information on EC verry bad ] ;B[fg]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: twenty something (small something) ViperDee [4k\]: thanks ] ;W[fe] ;B[ff]C[Nilatarion [2d\]: f11 ] ;W[fi] ;B[hc] ;W[gc] ;B[hd] ;W[hf] ;B[hg] ;W[if] ;B[lc] ;W[dg] ;B[ch] ;W[dh] ;B[ci] ;W[cj] ;B[bi] ;W[cf] ;B[bf] ;W[df] ;B[bj] ;W[be] ;B[ah]C[chrpa [1d\]: white attacked hard ] ;W[af] ;B[bg] ;W[ce]C[chrpa [1d\]: dont know if this was good for black ] ;B[ck]C[ThePoint [1d\]: OhChiMin must have overlooked something mareks [3k\]: b got to moves on top mareks [3k\]: i meant 2 moves ] ;W[dl]C[erikkk: w doesn't hav much, ths looks good for b ] ;B[gb] ;W[fb] ;B[gd] ;W[fc] ;B[qo] ;W[qf] ;B[qd] ;W[ip] ;B[iq]C[tapir [1d?\]: black dead stones have some aji left, and white left side territory is destroyed. ] ;W[jp] ;B[pi]C[Pinguschaf [5d\]: it was better not to play r14 exchange zyklop [1d\]: q11 helps against w´s possible territory in the center Lepenski [1k\]: RVZ is on problem? zyklop [1d\]: ? ] ;W[og] ;B[ni] ;W[ld] ;B[mc] ;W[pn]C[Lepenski [1k\]: tesiji Lepenski [1k\]: tesuji zyklop [1d\]: i don´t understand m16 Pinguschaf [5d\]: it was to gain sente zyklop [1d\]: thx Pinguschaf [5d\]: white claims to be alive with p13 stone Pinguschaf [5d\]: with m16 exchange Pinguschaf [5d\]: at least thats what he is saying^^ zyklop [1d\]: :) erikkk: probably w wants to attack q11 ;) ] ;B[qn] ;W[jd] ;B[jc]C[Lepenski [1k\]: W make big moyo? ] ;W[oe] ;B[md] ;W[qi]C[Lepenski [1k\]: Br10 ] ;B[qj] ;W[rj]C[Lepenski [1k\]: Bs11 ] ;B[qh] ;W[ri] ;B[ph] ;W[qk]C[OttosMops [2k\]: rob not looking too good ] ;B[rh] ;W[qm]C[Lepenski [1k\]: how old Rob ViperDee [4k\]: looking fine to me ViperDee [4k\]: i think hes over 40 Lepenski [1k\]: thx ViperDee [4k\]: he is dutch ViperDee [4k\]: they told me he lives in japan ] ;B[mh]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Rob was european champion in 1981,1990 and 1993 globax [4d\]: wining 10 in 93 herminator [2d?\]: Rob is in his 40s ] ;W[mg]C[herminator [2d?\]: He's been playing go for 39 years, and I think he started around age 8 ] ;B[lg]C[ViperDee [4k\]: hallo herman ] ;W[lf] ;B[kf]C[herminator [2d?\]: hallo ;) ViperDee [4k\]: ik vind dat het er goed uitziet voor rob herminator [2d?\]: Open partij nog, denk ik Lepenski [1k\]: rob make ko herminator [2d?\]: Wit moet deze aanval goed afslaan, anders wordt het moeilijk ] ;W[kg] ;B[lh]C[herminator [2d?\]: L15 en dan ruilen? ] ;W[ke]C[herminator [2d?\]: L15, N14, K14, O13, around L10 ViperDee [4k\]: oke ] ;B[mf] ;W[jf] ;B[me]C[herminator [2d?\]: :D ] ;W[kj] ;B[rm] ;W[rl] ;B[pm] ;W[ql]C[Lepenski [1k\]: Bp7 ViperDee [4k\]: Power to Rob!!! ViperDee [4k\]: yeahhhhh!!! ] ;B[kh] ;W[jh] ;B[le] ;W[ic] ;B[jb] ;W[ib]C[Lepenski [1k\]: Bh18 pera [3k\]: cao, lepenski Lepenski [1k\]: \] Lepenski [1k\]: \] ] ;B[kf]C[Lepenski [1k\]: cao Pero ] ;W[ji] ;B[jg] ;W[ig] ;B[hb]C[TeeSushi [3d\]: nice w moyo ] ;W[id]C[malamut: and nice b teritory ] ;B[ia] ;W[oq]C[Lepenski [1k\]: n territory malamut: :) Mukti [4d\]: I count about 80 for black, and 50 for white, counting up to the 110th line, so he would need to make about 30 in the center which seems about par... Mukti [4d\]: 10th* ViperDee [4k\]: die moyo is wel groot zeg EuroGoTV3 [-\]: time - white 1:10 black 1:43 Warfreak2 [5d\]: go rusty ] ;B[pr] ;W[jq] ;B[dk] ;W[ek] ;B[cl] ;W[dm] ;B[do] ;W[eo] ;B[dp] ;W[cm] ;B[bp] ;W[op] ;B[or] ;W[po] ;B[pp] ;W[no] ;B[nq] ;W[rn] ;B[ro] ;W[sm]C[Ruddick [9k?\]: is also online? ] ;B[mo]C[Ruddick [9k?\]: I mean can I watc it on video online> EuroGoTV3 [-\]: no Mukti [4d\]: This move is very annoying - it will be hard for white to make suff. points in the center now... :-( huggy [3k\]: looks bad for w now Arakasi [4k\]: black is far ahead... Cassis0 [5d\]: s6 was very strange huggy [3k\]: far ahead, and how can w protect moyo and live with p2? Mukti [4d\]: S6 was extremely big endgame Mukti [4d\]: Still, it feels slightly easier fro b now, although quite close Lepenski [1k\]: wo6 ] ;W[mn] ;B[lo]C[Mukti [4d\]: Hmm, w intends to sacr. 2 stones? Cassis0 [5d\]: yes end game... but why not close the moyo... Mukti [4d\]: B is naturaly running into w's terr. now... ViperDee [4k\]: power to rob!!! ] ;W[np] ;B[mq] ;W[nn]C[huggy [3k\]: can b m6 now? boksiu [2d?\]: yes i think ] ;B[mp] ;W[ln] ;B[ko] ;W[jm] ;B[dn] ;W[en] ;B[bm] ;W[cn] ;B[mk]C[Mukti [4d\]: 90 points for b now globax [4d\]: b+ res ? ] ;W[lk]C[Mukti [4d\]: B seems about 5 ahead ] ;B[jn] ;W[in]C[Mukti [4d\]: T5 is 8 points reverse sente.. ] ;B[km]C[Mukti [4d\]: 9 even... Mukti [4d\]: Wow - is this possible? Mukti [4d\]: How will b save his stone if w cuts with L6, connect j5? Mukti [4d\]: Is there some damezumari there? ViperDee [4k\]: its a mystery IchiYuki [-\]: it works ViperDee [4k\]: oke ] ;W[kl]C[Arakasi [4k\]: J7 ] ;B[kn]C[Mukti [4d\]: Hmm, i could not find anything, but prob. they found som. I overlooked ] ;W[jl] ;B[om] ;W[ml] ;B[nl] ;W[lm] ;B[kd] ;W[so] ;B[rp] ;W[sp] ;B[sq] ;W[sn] ;B[rq] ;W[nk] ;B[ok] ;W[mj] ;B[pj] ;W[jr] ;B[sh] ;W[ap] ;B[aq] ;W[ao] ;B[br] ;W[hs] ;B[gr] ;W[nm] ;B[je] ;W[ie] ;B[ol] ;W[lr] ;B[sj] ;W[sk] ;B[si] ;W[rk] ;B[mr] ;W[nj] ;B[dj] ;W[ej] ;B[ge] ;W[gf] ;B[oj]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: white has resigned IchiYuki [-\]: well chrpa [1d\]: thank you globax [4d\]: thx eurogotv3 yanor [4k?\]: can somebody tell me wht says the score estimater (I am connected throught internet browser and I don't have this ViperDee [4k\]: thanks snif Lovepove [7k\]: Yanor SE says b+9,5 yanor [4k?\]: thx Lovepove mope: cool! gandhi [5k?\]: just knowing what SE says is uninformative, however I think it is informative to see the SE board ])