(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[1x20 byo-yomi] GN[egc 2009 weekend tournament round 1 board 1]PW[Dmytro Bogackij]PB[Zhang Yanqi]WR[6d]BR[6d]DT[2009-08-01]EV[weekend]RO[1]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]WT[UA]BT[CN]US[kamyszyn] ;B[pd] ;W[dp] ;B[pq] ;W[dd] ;B[fc] ;W[id] ;B[cc] ;W[dc] ;B[cd] ;W[de] ;B[db] ;W[eb] ;B[cb] ;W[ec] ;B[cf] ;W[po] ;B[qo] ;W[qn] ;B[qp] ;W[nc] ;B[qf] ;W[pm] ;B[op] ;W[qi] ;B[kc]C[meuns [2k\]: hello ! meuns [2k\]: where are tv1 and tv2 ? ] ;W[pc] ;B[qc] ;W[qb] ;B[oc] ;W[pb]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: they have free time today tsuchigumo [-\]: Is this Harry? ] ;B[ob]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: no ] ;W[od] ;B[nb]C[bistrogo [3d\]: lol mcw85 [7k\]: Thanks for spending your time with us. :-) bistrogo [3d\]: beautifull EuroGoTV3 [-\]: I'm the tv3 from main tournament bistrogo [3d\]: shape tsuchigumo [-\]: Big thx anyway EuroGoTV3 [-\]: in weekend tournament japanese rules 6,5 komi TMGE [?\]: those two already played yesterday, no ? EuroGoTV3 [-\]: time 1h and 20 seconds byo-yomi ] ;W[nd]C[meuns [2k\]: w is nice here ] ;B[mb]C[KerLaeda [-\]: о, что за турнир? BlackSword [3d\]: i like black :S svrcd [?\]: читай, что евро пишет. турнир выходного дня GoatCheese [1k\]: me too GoatCheese [1k\]: w will live small in the corner right? ] ;W[qd] ;B[pe]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: Johnny Foreigners in the room svrcd [?\]: на конгрессе куча турниров разом проводится mcw85 [7k\]: Go Zhang! KerLaeda [-\]: аа ] ;W[rd] ;B[me]C[KerLaeda [-\]: конгресс сейчас)) BlackSword [3d\]: anyone lnow if any romania playess in weekend turney? JustlyNail: nu bistrogo [3d\]: probably KerLaeda [-\]: я просто не в курсе, не заходил давно, не интересовался го) пасиб svrcd [?\]: почитай вот тут http://egc2009.nl/?q=schedule mcw85 [7k\]: How many players in weekend tourney? svrcd [?\]: динер пока пятый в мейн-турнире) KerLaeda [-\]: ))) KerLaeda [-\]: я за Диму)) EuroGoTV3 [-\]: about 360 Direct [4k\]: le français reste plus joli à voir luffygo [5d\]: j'avoue andrey87 [18k\]: После пачки корейцев ) menikmati [5k\]: ou pas Yuura [4k?\]: lol svrcd [?\]: не после, а посреди ) luffygo [5d\]: mais c'est surtout qu'on ncomprend pas ] ;W[jc]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Thanks. Direct [4k\]: xD menikmati [5k\]: donc ce que tu comprend pas est moche ? KerLaeda [-\]: во блин, в Нидерландах конгресс) menikmati [5k\]: =D luffygo [5d\]: j'ai dit que le francais est plus joli svrcd [?\]: дык, там вроде как штаб-квартира европейской федерации го luffygo [5d\]: j'ai pas dit que le russe était moche MHiver [-\]: Moi je trouve que c'est joli =) luffygo [5d\]: KC Direct [4k\]: les lettres ne sont méme pas de la méme taille luffygo [5d\]: moi aussi j'aime bien menikmati [5k\]: ok =) luffygo [5d\]: ^ KerLaeda [-\]: да? не знал)) bolbi [-\]: si vous pouviez débattre de ça ailleurs ] ;B[kd]C[bistrogo [3d\]: celles en français non plus KerLaeda [-\]: я из Германии, до Нидерланд не далеко) andrey87 [18k\]: А правда что следующий в Финляндии будет ? Direct [4k\]: oui bolbi toute suite avec plaisir tsuchigumo [-\]: y a bon bec que de Paris svrcd [?\]: ты глянь статистику регнувшихся) 148 немцев, 150 - голландцев. при 500 участниках) Kirigo: e13 ? meuns [2k\]: what is doing w here ?! KerLaeda [-\]: ))) KerLaeda [-\]: ну вот)) говорю же, что не далеко)) bistrogo [3d\]: loosing? ;) tsuchigumo [-\]: losing* KerLaeda [-\]: французов тоже много?) Yuura [4k?\]: allez Yanqi ! svrcd [?\]: всё равно корейцы картину своими победами портят) ] ;W[jq]C[KerLaeda [-\]: 55 французов всего) KerLaeda [-\]: немецкие корейцы?)) svrcd [?\]: видимо, к немцам ближе ) Americano [7k\]: privet meuns [2k\]: b have no weak group ] ;B[hc]C[meuns [2k\]: no he have one... KerLaeda [-\]: хм, не, у Германии нету корейцов, не может быть KerLaeda [-\]: Тойбер самый крутой из наших)) GoManGo [5k\]: but white is dominating the lower right JustlyNail: w seems slitghtly screwed xiaoMao [?\]: it s the final game? Americano [7k\]: w has 3 weak groups edowaado [3k\]: so if im not wrong this should be the .. eh .. weekend tournement right? svrcd [?\]: я в том смысле, что город в голландии стоит ближе к германии, чем к франции) KerLaeda [-\]: разве? ;) Jadeite [?\]: Round 1 Board 1 of the weekend tournament ] ;W[df]C[svrcd [?\]: ну а почему же ещё так много немцев) JohnSmith [1k\]: EuroGoTv, are some Russia players playing on first boards? KerLaeda [-\]: вроде одинакого примерно?) ] ;B[cg] ;W[hd]C[KerLaeda [-\]: заговор)) xiaoMao [?\]: no but kibbitzing Yes svrcd [?\]: во франции кризис сильнее сказался? ) Americano [7k\]: read the names KerLaeda [-\]: ага)) xiaoMao [?\]: lol Jadeite [?\]: and the window title :) svrcd [?\]: white from Ukraine, not from Russia xiaoMao [?\]: whre are all the results of the games? EuroGoTV3 [-\]: this is 1st round KerLaeda [-\]: приятно видеть игрока из Украины )) EuroGoTV3 [-\]: about main tournament see my info bistrogo [3d\]: http://egc2009.nl/?q=node/1472 for main xiaoMao [?\]: ok thank you KerLaeda [-\]: надеюсь Дима его сделает Jadeite [?\]: xiao, main tourni http://egc2009.nl/?q=node/1472 andrey87 [18k\]: Жалко только что ему наш Немлий проиграл ) xiaoMao [?\]: ok thanks to all KerLaeda [-\]: Диме?) bistrogo [3d\]: :) ] ;B[gd] ;W[ge] ;B[fe] ;W[ff]C[dongdong [3k?\]: k18 works right? andrey87 [18k\]: Не Богацкому xiaoMao [?\]: Ker can you speak english? svrcd [?\]: у немлия пока очень неплохой результат KerLaeda [-\]: так Дима и есть Богацкий ;) ] ;B[ic]C[Pyoveli [3d\]: live feed anywhere? EuroGoTV3 [-\]: no Jadeite [?\]: no Go TV today bistrogo [3d\]: a sad day ;) KerLaeda [-\]: давно в го не играл) SanekFree [13k\]: а Богатский русский? JohnSmith [1k\]: So, no top russians in weekend? KerLaeda [-\]: не, украинец ] ;W[fd] ;B[ed] ;W[ee] ;B[fd]C[xiaoMao [?\]: hey guys English Kibittz would be apreciate mcw85 [7k\]: ? mcw85 [7k\]: All anguages welcome. andrey87 [18k\]: What about Dinerchtein or Shikshin? bistrogo [3d\]: they are free to speak theire languages TakokaT [4k\]: yeah its not a big deal, just dont read it, you cant anyway xiaoMao [?\]: well to share is better to speak english... KerLaeda [-\]: hehe bistrogo [3d\]: not everybody speak english TakokaT [4k\]: better but not required, leave it alone xiaoMao [?\]: ... KerLaeda [-\]: it's nothing interesting anyway^^ dongdong [3k?\]: w looks pretty screwed? bistrogo [3d\]: ^^ xiaoMao [?\]: bon ben je vais pas faire d effort non plus... Dekachan [10k\]: this game is not being broadcasted? EuroGoTV3 [-\]: not today SmallAxe [5k\]: xiaomao +1 ] ;W[fb] ;B[gc]C[KerLaeda [-\]: xiao :P xiaoMao [?\]: merci :P KerLaeda [-\]: je comprend toi :D bistrogo [3d\]: ^^ bistrogo [3d\]: this is fun xiaoMao [?\]: haha moi pas :) tsuchigumo [-\]: Not for w. KerLaeda [-\]: ^^ TakokaT [4k\]: 黑先赢了 KerLaeda [-\]: w for the win, i hope :) Sakeus [11k\]: today isnt live broadcasting Sakeus [11k\]: ? ] ;W[ib]C[Sakeus [11k\]: :) JohnSmith [1k\]: OMG EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Harry is resting today ] ;B[jd]C[LGLifeGood [1d?\]: K18 snowman [-\]: did he lose that badly in poker zen [1k\]: who are you if you're not harry? LGLifeGood [1d?\]: O.o xiaoMao [?\]: zhang is from china right? Sakeus [11k\]: oo :) ] ;W[hb] ;B[jb] ;W[gb] ;B[jc]C[jinkidie [16k\]: what the ... ] ;W[hf]C[jinkidie [16k\]: they are playing undos? ] ;B[gg] ;W[gf]C[donzet [?\]: who kill harry? Sakeus [11k\]: harry is TV 1 isnt he ? :) bistrogo [3d\]: oui mais elle vit en France maintenant zen [1k\]: no, its mistake by broadcaster xiaoMao [?\]: il y a un embouteillage la haut ] ;B[eh]C[SmallAxe [5k\]: jtrouve ca laid pour une partie de 6D =/ TakokaT [4k\]: i like black's style xiaoMao [?\]: ben c est pas habituel je dois dire tsuchigumo [-\]: w's needs a stiff chocolate vodka svrcd [?\]: xiaoMao: http://egc2009.nl/?q=participants Nael: il ne faut pas juger trop vite :) cuby [2k\]: is this not being broadcast because this was the player who can't stand being filmed? SmallAxe [5k\]: ouais , mais von , c'est le debut , peut etre que ca ira mieux apres =D jinkidie [16k\]: b j14 coming? xiaoMao [?\]: ah mon avis ils on du abuser de la vodka KerLaeda [-\]: xiao don't think so :P xiaoMao [?\]: hehe Kirigo: c10 tsuchigumo [-\]: So many stones, so few points xiaoMao [?\]: perhaps sake ?or maotai ] ;W[hg]C[jinkidie [16k\]: no worries about b j14 now i guess KerLaeda [-\]: xiao why are so few french player participate at the congress? chimbba [8k\]: e13 Nael: B has a nice position to make his game EuroGoTV3 [-\]: her xiaoMao [?\]: i don't know Nael: Be cause French sux :) KerLaeda [-\]: so many Germans^^ donzet [?\]: 55 participate SmallAxe [5k\]: french sucks é_è ? snowman [-\]: c6 or r8, take your pick Nael: et oui c triste a dire Nael: mais c pourtant vrai KerLaeda [-\]: i like french :P Nael: i like too :) xiaoMao [?\]: nael we apreciate thanks merci mon pote tsuchigumo [-\]: w has played 26 stones in the top half of the board and has 10 points ] ;B[cn]C[expat [4d?\]: game is already hard for white KerLaeda [-\]: yes tsuchigumo [-\]: w is lost ] ;W[fp]C[KerLaeda [-\]: hopefully not :) Nael: and what about the magic come back ] ;B[bp] ;W[cq]C[expat [4d?\]: i count w 10 points behind ] ;B[dl]C[KerLaeda [-\]: n3 KerLaeda [-\]: maybe ] ;W[of] ;B[oe] ;W[ne]C[JohnSmith [1k\]: nice xiaoMao [?\]: Nael btw I don't see many americans on the top list KerLaeda [-\]: hmm ] ;B[nf] ;W[ng]C[JohnSmith [1k\]: nice idea Nael: :) ] ;B[mf] ;W[pf] ;B[qe] ;W[qg]C[xiaoMao [?\]: and 2 frenchs tsuchigumo [-\]: b will start the yose soon Kirigo: n17 Nael: S 14 ] ;B[pg] ;W[og]C[Takimme [1k\]: смит ] ;B[rg] ;W[qh] ;B[re] ;W[se] ;B[rf]C[Nael: lol b crazy ] ;W[rc]C[Takimme [1k\]: это че за трансляция? Nael: giving influence to W KerLaeda [-\]: о, привет Дим KerLaeda [-\]: конгресс svrcd [?\]: читай титул) Takimme [1k\]: привет xiaoMao [?\]: c est assez epais comme jeu SanekFree [13k\]: хана JohnSmith [1k\]: White plays pretty effective here Takimme [1k\]: но это повтор? KerLaeda [-\]: нет вроде) svrcd [?\]: нет, прямая Takimme [1k\]: или это отложеная партия? Nael: can you speak english plz ? :) KerLaeda [-\]: :P svrcd [?\]: в выходные играется турнир в пять туров, по часу каждому ] ;B[lq] ;W[rh] ;B[md]C[xiaoMao [?\]: if the chinese win the game the russians win the kibitz... dongdong [3k?\]: m12? SHURATO [6k\]: 91 KerLaeda [-\]: :)) SHURATO [6k\]: b S9 svrcd [?\]: что интересно, мэйн играется по ингу, а турнир выходного дня - по японским) expat [4d?\]: b has no weakness on the board Takimme [1k\]: it was utraslatable national folklor xiaoMao [?\]: poor white whatisgo [1d\]: is it me or w behind by a lot? Atsu [3d\]: only by a little Takimme [1k\]: норм KerLaeda [-\]: и Рома тут) zen [1k\]: maybe w has a hangover Jadeite [?\]: snowman, I would have thought you would be in Groningen Nael: be carefull about W plans Takimme [1k\]: в инге же дивые камни дают очки? tsuchigumo [-\]: I think w is about 15 points behind whatisgo [1d\]: what are w plans? expat [4d?\]: w has 2 points he wants to play at the same time Nael: let s see : Nael: :) dongdong [3k?\]: d10? maybe? expat [4d?\]: near n13 and n7 svrcd [?\]: ой, там такие мутные правила, что я не стал копаться) expat [4d?\]: that's a problem :P KerLaeda [-\]: Ром, выйграть, думаю)) jinkidie [16k\]: i wonder... b j15, connect, j14 and kill? Nael: we just hope he gets one KerLaeda [-\]: w's plan is to win ^^ tsuchigumo [-\]: w needs to attend to his weak group Nael: like a magic center moyo expat [4d?\]: jinkidie, too much space to kill Takimme [1k\]: просто для меня правила по которым плохие формы и ходы в свою территорию приносят очки - противоестественны SHURATO [6k\]: w must approch Altair [8k\]: N13 probably Nael: too slow Nael: N 4 before Nael: or invade svrcd [?\]: самый наворот - когда делаешь самоубийственные ходы в территорию противника, чтобы выбить глаза) jinkidie [16k\]: expat so w will just run away fromh13? EuroGoTV3 [-\]: time - white 0:37, black 0:43 Altair [8k\]: invade D10? ] ;W[jo]C[KerLaeda [-\]: мда, Диме не легко Nael: he has to play actively Atsu [3d\]: too slow... Nael: i think he can t do anything else than invade KerLaeda [-\]: о5 может лучше было б BobDole123 [3k\]: no the h 3 invasion was bad Atsu [3d\]: he can actually take a lot of points Atsu [3d\]: by expanding from Q5 and from O13 ] ;B[lh]C[expat [4d?\]: atsu he needs 2 moves at the same time for that Atsu [3d\]: now he can't Atsu [3d\]: yes, I now expat [4d?\]: so he could not tsuchigumo [-\]: b's game plays itself ] ;W[mi]C[KerLaeda [-\]: hm, atacking G14 group? Atsu [3d\]: a didn't say he should get this ;) bistrogo [3d\]: i think atsu wanted to say black had to be carefull ] ;B[li]C[Atsu [3d\]: yes. ] ;W[mj]C[bistrogo [3d\]: :) Atsu [3d\]: :) expat [4d?\]: hm, this black strategy seems risky bistrogo [3d\]: i agree SHURATO [6k\]: b thing kill expat [4d?\]: why not destroy the moyo by chasing w into it? Nael: he will make a lot of points attacking W with his left moyo ] ;B[eg] ;W[ef]C[whatisgo [1d\]: trying to attack E17 Goreon [1d\]: Do 7d's play in this tournament? EuroGoTV3 [-\]: yes KerLaeda [-\]: k14? Atsu [3d\]: this will be very, very exciting - don't you think? expat [4d?\]: nael, hopefully, yes.. in fact, he only needs to make as many as w made with n11 tsuchigumo [-\]: B is sated with points already - at least 60 ] ;B[gh]C[whatisgo [1d\]: K14 ] ;W[ii]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: his left side will swell out now Atsu [3d\]: K13 - no? asrai [7k\]: Eurogotv, who won in the Breakfast vs van zeijst? EuroGoTV3 [-\]: breakfast by 1 mcw85 [7k\]: Did Rob freak out? SHURATO [6k\]: but w give territory asrai [7k\]: thank you ] ;B[ih] ;W[hh]C[rausku [-\]: why only board 3? ] ;B[hi]C[Nael: can B thinks about h6 ] ;W[jh]C[Atsu [3d\]: wow, this is nice, but isn't it too easy for white's group? Atsu [3d\]: no Atsu [3d\]: OK Lebertran [2d\]: rausku, it´s board 1 Atsu [3d\]: I see Atsu [3d\]: :D expat [4d?\]: :) asrai [7k\]: where are the updated results? svrcd [?\]: кстати, в какой программе можно оценить очки по инговским правилам? сгобан только по японским корректно это делает :( Atsu [3d\]: now it's almost over/ ] ;B[hj]C[Larrave [3k\]: ^^ Atsu [3d\]: why? Arhiman [3k\]: why not ? donzet [?\]: w k15 geta Larrave [3k\]: does eurogo show this live? ] ;W[ij] ;B[ik]C[Nael: now h6 and Gg SHURATO [6k\]: w is cut Atsu [3d\]: doesn't work Atsu [3d\]: OK whatisgo [1d\]: eourogtv is on a break Larrave [3k\]: ^^ Larrave [3k\]: ohXD zc3k [1k\]: all here ] ;W[hk] ;B[fj]C[royu [5d\]: easy game for b Novalys [2k\]: Black is going berserk Atsu [3d\]: but ] ;W[hl]C[Atsu [3d\]: if black has to reinforce like this Atsu [3d\]: K13 would have been better. Atsu [3d\]: white would have still be eyeless, no? KerLaeda [-\]: k13 better? KerLaeda [-\]: yes Atsu [3d\]: instead of cutting in J12 Cassis0 [5d\]: is there live retransmission? bistrogo [3d\]: yes bistrogo [3d\]: no tv bistrogo [3d\]: sorry Cassis0 [5d\]: ok dongsaeng [3d\]: why no tv... bistrogo [3d\]: because harry is on a break Novalys [2k\]: Time to g4 prob Novalys [2k\]: probe ] ;B[ig] ;W[jg]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: what is w doing Cassis0 [5d\]: oh Pyoveli [3d\]: huh Cassis0 [5d\]: geta Atsu [3d\]: LD Atsu [3d\]: xD Jocky [3d\]: k15 donzet [?\]: what is black doing? Atsu [3d\]: i had the same blindspot Stelios [5k\]: wrong hunt Atsu [3d\]: blunder bensenseii [-\]: Go Yanqi =p ] ;B[il]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: unneccessary complications for b Atsu [3d\]: black shouldn't try so hard. He could have won easily by playing simple endgame moves, bu now...? why risk so much? Yuura [4k?\]: ben qu'est ce que tu dis avec b14 ? bensenseii [-\]: j14 lipwick [?\]: b digging a hole for himself ? Stelios [5k\]: J14 for w if wants to live Atsu [3d\]: He is still leading by <20 point on the board KerLaeda [-\]: :) ] ;W[fl]C[bensenseii [-\]: j14 for black does something ? EuroGoTV3 [-\]: She bensenseii [-\]: Yes she tsuchigumo [-\]: I guess b just overrelaxed Atsu [3d\]: J14 gives points to white Atsu [3d\]: ;) SHURATO [6k\]: b protech b2bomber [?\]: Does anyone have the time? expat [4d?\]: b m12 strategy did not work out KerLaeda [-\]: j14, k14, j15 atari? right? Stelios [5k\]: points an life Stelios [5k\]: otherwise the group is dead tsuchigumo [-\]: imo j12 was the problem expat [4d?\]: gave w 10 points for no compensation EuroGoTV3 [-\]: both players 32 minutes left zc3k [1k\]: still no mis n trickery each b2bomber [?\]: Thank you, EuroGoTV3 expat [4d?\]: shame the navigation buttons don't work :'( donzet [?\]: it's sudden death suyqtem? ] ;B[on]C[Larrave [3k\]: just locally watch it bolbi [-\]: view offline EuroGoTV3 [-\]: 20 sec BY ] ;W[pn]C[donzet [?\]: ty expat [4d?\]: gets boring clicking view offline so often KerLaeda [-\]: Atsu, how to respond to J14? :) zc3k [1k\]: b fast than w svrcd [?\]: j14 k15 ] ;B[kj]C[KerLaeda [-\]: ой, да) KerLaeda [-\]: пасиб) bensenseii [-\]: Oh yes KerLaeda [-\]: туплю) zc3k [1k\]: kia ora svrcd [?\]: бывает) pewpew [8k\]: expat clone it ] ;W[jk] ;B[jj] ;W[ji] ;B[jl] ;W[ek]C[Arhiman [3k\]: j14 - > k15 ? expat [4d?\]: yes arhi ] ;B[cj]C[KerLaeda [-\]: yes expat [4d?\]: geta hylie [4d\]: w j7 hylie [4d\]: + ] ;W[dj]C[hylie [4d\]: ? Larrave [3k\]: m5 looks good too ] ;B[dk]C[Larrave [3k\]: doesnt it ] ;W[ej] ;B[ci]C[Stelios [5k\]: seems like W a head Stelios [5k\]: if B J14 W has K15 SHURATO [6k\]: w must live zc3k [1k\]: back to game bye mate mcw85 [7k\]: Were? FreeStone [7k\]: b head :) expat [4d?\]: game looks fairly even Stelios [5k\]: W alive anywAY expat [4d?\]: yose will be important Shaper [1k\]: j14 w dead? ] ;W[nq]C[riola: N7 Naurul [8k\]: b p9 is good move ? Nemerid [-\]: no b2bomber [?\]: j14, k15, everyone ] ;B[in]C[Atsu [3d\]: how come. Even a b2bomber can see and you guys can't?:P Atsu [3d\]: :D b2bomber [?\]: :( Arhiman [3k\]: a b2bomber can see everything Atsu [3d\]: no Atsu [3d\]: I meant b2bomber [?\]: "Even"? donzet [?\]: little yose is getting big Atsu [3d\]: b2bomber as a funny shape Atsu [3d\]: I don't know you Atsu [3d\]: just joking;0 Atsu [3d\]: ;) hylie [4d\]: b2bbomber is Angle Two from Earthsearch, the BBC radio show. chimbba [8k\]: what's the idea with j6? Zazen [1k\]: live hylie [4d\]: penetration Arhiman [3k\]: to attack f8 stoners ? BenSenTen [?\]: exchange? b2bomber [?\]: We should get aquainted then, Atsu. b2bomber [?\]: Sometime- not now. Maybe next week or so. Atsu [3d\]: should we? Atsu [3d\]: OK, maybe:) Youssev [5d\]: if w does not answer, b can play contact at g4 BenSenTen [?\]: b letting w to attack corner n b would take the w h8 group? SHURATO [6k\]: w is going to lose utahraptor [9k\]: w o5 ] ;W[ho] ;B[hn] ;W[go]C[Arhiman [3k\]: b l4 possible ? jinkidie [16k\]: b has 11 pairs... FreeStone [7k\]: /*-0 Sakeus [11k\]: bm5 Nemerid [-\]: l4 doesn't seem to be a good shape Arhiman [3k\]: ok thanks Cassis0 [5d\]: b thinking about f7 BenSenTen [?\]: j4? Youssev [5d\]: f7 big but P8 bigger ] ;B[kp]C[Arhiman [3k\]: héhé ^^ Nemerid [-\]: sorry arhimann :) cuby [2k\]: sorry if this has been covered, but how does white live if black J14? BenSenTen [?\]: p8, not p9? b2bomber [?\]: j14 k15 Arhiman [3k\]: no problem nemerid, we, 6d and 3k have got complicated mind ;) cuby [2k\]: thanks b2bomber [?\]: Welcome siulongbao [7k\]: j14 ? Larsen [2d?\]: j14 k15 Nak0r [4k\]: ^^ siulongbao [7k\]: isnt j 14 good siulongbao [7k\]: ohh siulongbao [7k\]: yeh gabstar [2d\]: looked like f7 kills but mebbe i cant read BenSenTen [?\]: it's good when ko jinkidie [16k\]: well maybe then... j14? SHURATO [6k\]: w going to lose eastwood1 [10k\]: j 14 for jinkidie [16k\]: lol ] ;W[jp]C[SHURATO [6k\]: 100% BenSenTen [?\]: j14 for immediate gratification Arhiman [3k\]: now p8 ? BenSenTen [?\]: not p9? Nemerid [-\]: i'm sure this time that not the move :) Nak0r [4k\]: or F7 maybe Arhiman [3k\]: oh... gabstar [2d\]: enuff with j14 even i can see k15 PowerTower [1d\]: Q13 is in atari. That's dangerous Arhiman [3k\]: what if it is, nemerid ! Arhiman [3k\]: i get a prize or something ? Nemerid [-\]: what do you want ? :) Arhiman [3k\]: a 6d rank... HisokaH [-\]: hehe Sakeus [-\]: 6p Sakeus [-\]: :) PowerTower [1d\]: love, peace and happiness SSMP [2k\]: f7 not working because w f9 ist sente so be has to defend g11 cut ] ;B[mo]C[Arhiman [3k\]: :( Nemerid [-\]: :) PowerTower [1d\]: :-)) Arhiman [3k\]: farewell, 6d rank ele91 [2k\]: :/ BenSenTen [?\]: n5 is the biggest BenSenTen [?\]: to b Nemerid [-\]: there was too mani aji here PowerTower [1d\]: T13 - to avoid white connection SHURATO [6k\]: finish ] ;W[lr]C[Youssev [5d\]: i preferesN4 to N5 because of the M2 sete yose ] ;B[mr]C[gabstar [2d\]: yes i see f9 sente gabstar [2d\]: but what next? PowerTower [1d\]: ok, L2 instead of N2 possible? Nemerid [-\]: powertower ? Why cutting two living groups ? BenSenTen [?\]: they will be lonlely Nemerid [-\]: T13 is more than gote PowerTower [1d\]: (was some stupid comment, sorry) Lovepove [7k\]: Can you get life to the white stuns after you cut at n2? Lovepove [7k\]: stones* Nemerid [-\]: kiblitz is not an easy task I understand, there are no problems :) ] ;W[kr] ;B[mq] ;W[oo] ;B[no]C[Zazen [1k\]: o8 tsuchigumo [-\]: n7 ele91 [2k\]: o7 Nemerid [-\]: I prefer n7 ] ;W[bq]C[ele91 [2k\]: ghg tsuchigumo [-\]: hmmm maxp73 [3d\]: B3 is huge tsuchigumo [-\]: b will erase right side now KerLaeda [-\]: f7 doesn't work? Nemerid [-\]: b15 is about 15 points and the right side is not so big GiacNgo07 [3d?\]: o7? JungleCat [3k\]: istn f9 sente for both? - so why does no one play it? gabstar [2d\]: it seems to but i supose im missing something BenSenTen [?\]: may work, but maybe not big enough to play now ] ;B[nl] ;W[ok] ;B[nk]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: f9 not sente for both ] ;W[oj] ;B[rn] ;W[rm] ;B[ro]C[gabstar [2d\]: horrible for b JungleCat [3k\]: if w f9 an b tenuki, w g11 and if b f9 and w tenuki cut at f7 works for b.... gabstar [2d\]: if bf9 w g11 dado [1k\]: b is ahead? Fiktik [7k\]: how is B15 15 points? I dont see any way how could w live there.. ] ;W[nm]C[gabstar [2d\]: he means that area kimball [5d?\]: f9 is very uninteresting point for both, thats why they don't play there expat [4d?\]: gabstar then b f11 and capture 3 stones for 2 dado [1k\]: p7 expat [4d?\]: anyway, the area is not interesting dado [1k\]: b p7 Fiktik [7k\]: ooh, ok :o) gabstar [2d\]: but w has sente and no prob ] ;B[ol]C[dado [1k\]: or b p8 to enter in w teritory dado [1k\]: big but dangerous ] ;W[om]C[SHURATO [6k\]: sente is most expensive tsuchigumo [-\]: Very close now, yose will decide dado [1k\]: b m8 SHURATO [6k\]: this game w win dado [1k\]: or b s 8 an ideea KerLaeda [-\]: isn't p7 dangerous? dado [1k\]: yes s 8 is good dado [1k\]: for w is dangerous because of s 8 ] ;B[pl]C[kaema: q8 ] ;W[ql]C[PowerTower [1d\]: white M8 ] ;B[ll]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: w made a bad decision here, this is huge for b tsuchigumo [-\]: in sente kaema: whixh move you mean? ] ;W[lj]C[kaema: r8? ] ;B[kk] ;W[mm] ;B[lk]C[dado [1k\]: hard for w to win now dado [1k\]: w b5 tsuchigumo [-\]: I counted the game close if w kept his left side and* got 5 ] ;W[ki]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: right side* tsuchigumo [-\]: b 5* ] ;B[jn] ;W[lg] ;B[kg]C[sameasyou [2d\]: w blinded expat [4d?\]: woops tsuchigumo [-\]: w off focus Nemerid [-\]: game over dado [1k\]: w n 12 leger [1d\]: l14 SSMP [2k\]: not n12 jinkidie [16k\]: l14 expat [4d?\]: w n12 not so good :) gabstar [2d\]: then j14 sameasyou [2d\]: if w n12 b 14 sameasyou [2d\]: j14 leger [1d\]: l14 j14 k15 leger [1d\]: white is okay sameasyou [2d\]: not ok :) derp [1k\]: l14, n13 I'd think gabstar [2d\]: no k14 atari leger [1d\]: self atari you mean meditation [2d\]: just k14.. OsoAgonar [-\]: ... dado [1k\]: just k 14 leger [1d\]: when ? dado [1k\]: for w dado [1k\]: now w k14 leger [1d\]: l14 now, what do you answer ? if j14, then w k15 works gabstar [2d\]: n12 j14 k15 k14 OsoAgonar [-\]: k15 sux Nemerid [-\]: it is sure w is ok for this group, but his attack didn't work and he has no way to win OsoAgonar [-\]: open your eyes OsoAgonar [-\]: ... dongdong [3k?\]: what if b n13 after w l14? sameasyou [2d\]: at least k14 is sente for w masek [-\]: a jay jay Zavalili moyo masek [-\]: razvalili tsuchigumo [-\]: eurogo, how does w look? EuroGoTV3 [-\]: not very happy kaema: l14 n13 lipwick [14k?\]: rofl xiaoMao [?\]: hehe masek [-\]: Does White Drink Vodka Today? xiaoMao [?\]: nasdrovia Avalon [3d\]: жжешь, мась Avalon [3d\]: ;d KerLaeda [-\]: не то слово dado [1k\]: :) ] ;W[kf]C[xiaoMao [?\]: and see the russian kibitz is quite now xiaoMao [?\]: ^^ ] ;B[mg]C[jinkidie [16k\]: woot dado [1k\]: w b5 dado [1k\]: let that like it is sameasyou [2d\]: w has to defend this way gosta [3k\]: what does n13 do? SHURATO [6k\]: this game b win shindon [9k\]: hey i need a teacher will anyone teach me? ] ;W[kh]C[dongdong [3k?\]: n13 saves m12 la= =;; KerLaeda [-\]: yes me ganesha0 [2k\]: still close? KerLaeda [-\]: i am 20k ] ;B[ie]C[Hoyuk [13k\]: selfstudy is the way to success xiaoMao [?\]: ask Dmytro dado [1k\]: let 2 shindon [9k\]: ok ] ;W[he] ;B[je] ;W[if]C[gosta [3k\]: n13 just endgame, ok Deva [1d\]: g19 dado [1k\]: b n12 ] ;B[nh] ;W[oh]C[dado [1k\]: good for b ] ;B[oi] ;W[ph]C[maxp73 [3d\]: R9 dado [1k\]: o10 ] ;B[mh] ;W[ni]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: Fat lady has sung ] ;B[co]C[InABuzz [5k\]: n13 looks keypoint dado [1k\]: yes b5 InABuzz [5k\]: ^for ose here dado [1k\]: b win InABuzz [5k\]: nice sequenzes Hoyuk [13k\]: the fat lady just hummed a few notes tsuchigumo [-\]: Threat f7 Novalys [2k\]: big win for b ? Hoyuk [13k\]: the opera is coming expat [4d?\]: resign Novalys [2k\]: [lol i've just watched a gu li game where both players made kyu habit xD\] expat [4d?\]: w cannot win jinkidie [16k\]: b m14 looks nasty to me gabstar [2d\]: it shouldnt InABuzz [5k\]: whey did? they pressed undo always? dado [1k\]: 12 point bettwen them? JungleCat [3k\]: shouldnt w fix q9? Hoyuk [13k\]: m14 is very weak Hoyuk [13k\]: w alive anyways expat [4d?\]: w is >5 points behind masek [-\]: seems White is not Ok InABuzz [5k\]: maybe a c7 capsuji or something^^ jinkidie [16k\]: well m14 l13 l15 and where do white's eyes go? ] ;W[pp]C[dado [1k\]: w r3 gabstar [2d\]: jink g19 is eye expat [4d?\]: jink w has an eye at the top dado [1k\]: or w r2 jinkidie [16k\]: ok ] ;B[oq]C[Hoyuk [13k\]: yes jinkidie [16k\]: tnx dado [1k\]: w n1 sente InABuzz [5k\]: 5in a row = one eye, 8 in a row 2 eyes ] ;W[qq]C[expat [4d?\]: all irrelevant though, doesn't look like w can win dado [1k\]: w t13 sente ] ;B[rq] ;W[qr] ;B[rr]C[gabstar [2d\]: not really masek [-\]: what this ? tsuchigumo [-\]: w trying to muddy the waters chimbba [8k\]: desperate Madel [3k\]: o2 ] ;W[ko]C[masek [-\]: it's vodka dado [1k\]: desperate dado [1k\]: trick ] ;B[fm]C[OsoAgonar [-\]: why people say obvious thinks like W t13 sente? ] ;W[fk]C[kaelkael09 [3k?\]: il y a t-il est retransmission en video? tsuchigumo [-\]: yes gosta [3k\]: why no sacrifice smtg, cant hurt OsoAgonar [-\]: ... ] ;B[gj]C[gabstar [2d\]: at last ] ;W[em] ;B[gm]C[BenSenTen [?\]: res? masek [-\]: white lost KerLaeda [-\]: Oso, because it's not sente utahraptor [9k\]: uhhhhh tsuchigumo [-\]: coup de grace expat [4d?\]: yes, w had no time to play there anyway shindon [9k\]: this is live right gabstar [2d\]: i guess b needed c5 for this sfsoma: w did not lose just now, but a long time ago OsoAgonar [-\]: of course is sente dado [1k\]: furicawari? tsuchigumo [-\]: yes c5 was sente dado [1k\]: furikawary? maxp73 [3d\]: wow dado [1k\]: w d7? expat [4d?\]: furikanothing BenSenTen [?\]: b maybe 1 stone stronger expat [4d?\]: :) EuroGoTV3 [-\]: White has resigned yoshiro [3k\]: gg expat [4d?\]: *clap clap* tsuchigumo [-\]: nice job b masek [-\]: nice game masek [-\]: good Perfomance expat [4d?\]: strong game by b EuroGoTV3 [-\]: next round in 70 minutes Hoyuk [13k\]: the fat lady sung a masterpiece yoshiro [3k\]: omg tsuchigumo [-\]: Thx euro expat [4d?\]: ty euro dado [1k\]: ok for b fight well Naurul [8k\]: w L7 ?? yoshiro [3k\]: thx BenSenTen [?\]: tk OR77 [25k?\]: thx balance [8k\]: L7 E8 derp [1k\]: when will next round start? derp [1k\]: oh, nm jinkidie [16k\]: hm did b last mocve win all the terr aroundf9? EuroGoTV3 [-\]: 15:00 GMT+2 EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Schedule of weekend tournament in my info leshogun2 [5d\]: so in 10 minutes? EuroGoTV3 [-\]: 70 SHURATO [6k\]: b defent is enoght qgo [4k\]: will there be a wall-list of this tornement? qgo [4k\]: on the net I mean? qgo [4k\]: by the way: hi you all A1R [8k\]: result? ])