(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[1x20 byo-yomi] GN[EGC 2009 Weekend Tournament round 4 board 1]PW[Kim Joon Sang]PB[Oh Chi-Min]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2009-08-02]EV[weekend]RO[4]PC[Groningen, Netherlands]WT[KR]BT[KR]US[kamyszyn]C[Gelya [10k\]: hi 2 all Novalys [2k\]: gogogo chi min ColorCoded: ah, finally cyp2d6 [9k\]: Hi, Gelya! JohnSmith [1k\]: Kim will win no matter what! Gelya [10k\]: bet on the kim Gelya [10k\]: Kim mccrusty [2k\]: how many rounds total? mcw85 [7k\]: 5 EuroGoTV3 [-\]: 5 Xena [-\]: only 5? Novalys [2k\]: Eurogotv, youshould ask oh chi min if he wants a mojito :p Protonics [6k\]: oh chi min says hes goning to win egc meuns [2k\]: !! meuns [2k\]: the best game of the day CardFang [?\]: where are the stones? preticular: kim plays in kgs? meuns [2k\]: this game is beginning mccrusty [2k\]: does Oh live in Berlin these days? ] ;B[pd]C[JohnSmith [1k\]: Even without stones it's the best huggy [3k\]: so far I like b Draak [1d\]: na w has 8 komi Draak [1d\]: :P ] ;W[dd]C[Draak [1d\]: w ahead see meuns [2k\]: b should resign... meuns [2k\]: *\\o/* Coffeeman [4k?\]: can't afford komi ~ EuroGoTV3 [-\]: komi 6.5 mcw85 [7k\]: Go, Oh! crawler [5k\]: RustySword (Chi Min Oh) has had a wonderful year meuns [2k\]: japanese rules ? JohnSmith [1k\]: Black is planning smth Draak [1d\]: ni ing rukes euro? JohnSmith [1k\]: Very very special EuroGoTV3 [-\]: in weekend tournament japanese rules mcw85 [7k\]: Jap rules. meuns [2k\]: Ah ok ok meuns [2k\]: Thx EuroGoTV3 [-\]: ing only in main Sebj [12k\]: where can i find the results list? ] ;B[dq]C[huggy [3k\]: i see b ahead now ] ;W[pp] ;B[co]C[mcw85 [7k\]: http://egc2009.nl EuroGoTV3 [-\]: results from weekend still unavailbe on egc site CardFang [?\]: his name sounds like the name of a dictator of vietnam Sebj [12k\]: ok thanks Reiter101 [-\]: o3 Draak [1d\]: m3 Protonics [6k\]: thats ho chi minh Meareal [4k\]: kim joon sang? does he have a KGS account? ] ;W[nq]C[Reiter101 [-\]: =) Draak [1d\]: darn:p Reiter101 [-\]: m3 is odd ] ;B[qj]C[Reiter101 [-\]: r10 ] ;W[iq]C[Reiter101 [-\]: ah Reiter101 [-\]: i would do it after Reiter101 [-\]: o17 q14 q18 Reiter101 [-\]: i would do ] ;B[fc]C[IGoofy [1d\]: must be realy hard to publish the result page Reiter101 [-\]: not really Reiter101 [-\]: when it's organised right Luigi330 [21k\]: why is the time not running ? Hoyuk [13k\]: hello fellow kibitzers! Reiter101 [-\]: they are playing on a real board Luigi330 [21k\]: ah ok Reiter101 [-\]: you can't open a demo and time will move IGoofy [1d\]: ^^ cashcow [4d\]: B leading woidler [6k?\]: lol tsuchigumo [-\]: By exactly how many points cashcow? monobrow [5k?\]: by 5-4 stones ] ;W[cf]C[iLMM [-\]: w leading 0,5 point monobrow [5k?\]: now even again mcw85 [7k\]: Where is .5 coming from? Reiter101 [-\]: komi Hoyuk [13k\]: to prevent evenness mcw85 [7k\]: Komi integer. ww [?\]: b+25,5p says SE meuns [2k\]: k16 Mandos [2k?\]: Kamyszyn na prezydenta. ColorCoded: meh, wonder if w is hoping for d18 to initiate that horrible korean joseki... cashcow [4d\]: f15 ! CardFang [?\]: there is a room in eurogo where the game can be seen? mcw85 [7k\]: N mcw85 [7k\]: o sheery [?\]: reportedly weekend tournament is not broadcasted on video ] ;B[nc]C[Gelya [10k\]: i like k16 ] ;W[hc]C[Gelya [10k\]: f0or b meuns [2k\]: f15... ^^ cashcow [4d\]: k17 Sebj [12k\]: why black did not finished the joseki with D18 or J 16 ? meuns [2k\]: b wants to play an easy game ^^ iLMM [-\]: b finished joseki with o17 Luigi330 [21k\]: sorry whats joseki holynec [?\]: you can do whatever you want in go ;-\] Sebj [12k\]: he have not to protect F17? Reiter101 [-\]: a sequence in the opening ] ;B[dc]C[sheery [?\]: specifically in corner ] ;W[cc] ;B[cb]C[Luigi330 [21k\]: thx ] ;W[ec] ;B[db] ;W[ed] ;B[cd] ;W[bc]C[mcw85 [7k\]: A set pattern that gives equal resuts. ] ;B[bd] ;W[bb] ;B[ba]C[Reiter101 [-\]: joseki also applies on half board ] ;W[eb] ;B[ac]C[Reiter101 [-\]: somtimes more mcw85 [7k\]: Not necessarily corner. ] ;W[dj] ;B[jc]C[cashcow [4d\]: wow! cashcow [4d\]: B is powerful holynec [?\]: k17 looks a little close JohnSmith [1k\]: k17 bad taoyan [2k\]: Why D10 high, i learned the door is open, and black looks inside house Hoyuk [13k\]: b knows the way of the stones Sebj [12k\]: ah ok I understand, black is leading in territory for now iLMM [-\]: so peacful and quiet iLMM [-\]: game JohnSmith [1k\]: Time to messed this up! holynec [?\]: the top side is open, so territory isnt so enticing Sebj [12k\]: where to invde for white ? R [1k\]: s15 holynec [?\]: and d15 aji cut cashcow [4d\]: not just territory holynec [?\]: so d10 will help it Z10: ¿Esta partida se puede ver en video? Morty [6k\]: lol. why do people not like epaceful and quiet? Hoyuk [13k\]: m17? cashcow [4d\]: D10 is the wrong direction! TakokaT [4k\]: @z10 no, porque es el fin de semana edo1 [8k\]: k 16 cashcow [4d\]: but it had to be wrong Aldor [2d\]: i lije r5 sheery [?\]: Morty, because peaceful and quiet is not the definition of go .. without fighting you lose drojdie [2k?\]: creo que no ante [10k?\]: how much time have they used? Z10: como que por el fin de semana? ] ;W[re]C[taoyan [2k\]: D10 is not optimal cashcow? Coffeeman [4k?\]: Shusaku.... peacefull unless trouble Gresil [-\]: sheery, no cashcow [4d\]: because of C5 Sebj [12k\]: well done R :-) cashcow [4d\]: D10 has no good follow up to extend ] ;B[qe]C[taoyan [2k\]: Yeah, that's what i learned too, but i thoughed there was a better reason to still play rto Z10: ¿Pero para poder ver estas partidas en video, hay que pagar? ] ;W[rd]C[monobrow [5k?\]: no. ] ;B[rf]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Z10: No ] ;W[qf] ;B[qg] ;W[pf] ;B[rh]C[Z10: Ah Ok gracias ] ;W[pc]C[Z10: :) ] ;B[qc] ;W[qd] ;B[pb]C[drojdie [2k?\]: has que pagar a mi ] ;W[pe] ;B[oc]C[drojdie [2k?\]: 50 euros JohnSmith [1k\]: Interesting Hoyuk [13k\]: 50 nuts preticular: is this joseki? ] ;W[pg]C[wolokom [5k\]: ups Aldor [2d\]: hmm sunyata [1k\]: yes Morty [6k\]: not so good for white here? JohnSmith [1k\]: Now k17 looks better ] ;B[oj]C[Aldor [2d\]: not really good for white no mcw85 [7k\]: B better here. ] ;W[mf]C[sunyata [1k\]: well black already had 3 stones there sheery [?\]: well .. black had 4 stones in that quarter of board to begin with ... but black solidified a lot Novalys [2k\]: cool joseki in top right mcw85 [7k\]: True. sunyata [1k\]: what do you expect?^^;; Coffeeman [4k?\]: magic ~ mcw85 [7k\]: Just saying, not joseki. Luigi330 [21k\]: how do you see that joseki is over ? ] ;B[qn]C[Hoyuk [13k\]: when the move benefits the one side more than the other sunyata [1k\]: if there are bigger points on the board elswhere Hoyuk [13k\]: so to speak qwerty777: is this going to be broadcast live? mcw85 [7k\]: nnnnnnnnnnooooooooooo qwerty777: well that sucks mcw85 [7k\]: ? ] ;W[fq]C[Sebj [12k\]: good fuseki by black, isn't it ? meuns [2k\]: even meuns2: ! ] ;B[cl]C[meuns [2k\]: ^ mcw85 [7k\]: Do you like watvhing random people walk by and gawk at a board or do you like seeing thae game? JohnSmith [1k\]: Probably black better seppy [?\]: s4? meuns [2k\]: don't steal my nickname ! taoyan [2k\]: its so nice to see the faces man meuns2: never! meuns [2k\]: e8 taoyan [2k\]: One korean guy was reading the magazine during opening... so funny to see ] ;W[lc]C[Wildcard [10k\]: Could someone strong enighten me on who is leading? meuns [2k\]: seems even Hoyuk [13k\]: yes mcw85 [7k\]: even steven ] ;B[ne]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: Ask cashcow, he knows JohnSmith [1k\]: Black is better mcw85 [7k\]: Cashcow says n14 is ladder breaker. mcw85 [7k\]: And white has trap. meuns [2k\]: k17 and f17 are burns ] ;W[md]C[seppy [?\]: wow Hoyuk [13k\]: m15 TKo [1k\]: what wow? seppy [?\]: surprisng move meuns [2k\]: w strong ^^ ] ;B[nf]C[Pingu007 [3d\]: m15 is a very bad kikashi i believe Pingu007 [3d\]: no more cut after meuns2: b strong! Hoyuk [13k\]: oh i see cashcow [4d\]: p16 OnTheWay [7k\]: o14 and sacrifice q14 for building up a moyo? TomGo [1k\]: would mean lots of cash f b meuns [2k\]: meuns2, use stong for b here... ^^ preticular: p16 looks very bad meuns [2k\]: p16 seems tesuji here Wildcard [10k\]: Might become a nice moyo for white now cashcow [4d\]: o13 only move now OnTheWay [7k\]: o13 ] ;W[qh] ;B[rg]C[Wildcard [10k\]: He seems to disagree Novalys [2k\]: ignore peep is crazy \\o/ Novalys [2k\]: gogo chi min OnTheWay [7k\]: now o13 i bet!! mcw85 [7k\]: kikashi/ Hoyuk [13k\]: what is kikashi? ] ;W[ng] ;B[mg]C[mcw85 [7k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?kikashi Hoyuk [13k\]: thanx meuns2: now w can play kawasaki Hoyuk [13k\]: and then suzuki OnTheWay [7k\]: n12 m13 o11 mcw85 [7k\]: I prefer honda. R [1k\]: what is kawasaki? JohnSmith [1k\]: You mean karate? looser [1d\]: sake is also good esko [2k\]: w should play umeboshi OnTheWay [7k\]: T20 is strong aikido ] ;W[nd]C[drojdie [2k?\]: w is going to play ramauashi ] ;B[od]C[Hoyuk [13k\]: kikashi=forcing move TKo [1k\]: it is sony playstation bipbip [2k\]: t20 is sake move Gelya [10k\]: t20?)) OnTheWay [7k\]: n15 Wildcard [10k\]: t20 is of the board Hoyuk [13k\]: w will nehobashi meuns [2k\]: w rules mcw85 [7k\]: t20 is pass bERt0r [11k\]: 2nd goban tsuji ] ;W[me]C[bigJ [6k\]: kibitzing jokes getting worser and worser ] ;B[nh] ;W[og]C[Hoyuk [13k\]: i was right ] ;B[oe]C[mcw85 [7k\]: Kibitzing grammer is getting worse and worse. Wildcard [10k\]: p13 dead now Gelya [10k\]: q14 dies? mcw85 [7k\]: grammar* TKo [1k\]: worser? ] ;W[mh] ;B[lg]C[TKo [1k\]: hehe TakokaT [4k\]: mcw85, the irony is killing me :) ] ;W[ni]C[Novalys [2k\]: Nothing is dead yet mcw85 [7k\]: Shut up! haha. mcw85 [7k\]: Mine was just typo. :-P meuns [2k\]: complicated fight TKo [1k\]: you mean badder and badder :)) OnTheWay [7k\]: n11 Ephemere [2d\]: l16 ? Hoyuk [13k\]: kibitzng typo is getting worse and worse Hoyuk [13k\]: *kibitzing Wildcard [10k\]: white will escape meuns [2k\]: ^^ mcw85 [7k\]: ... bipbip [2k\]: no he means more worse OnTheWay [7k\]: ^^ mcw85 [7k\]: More worser. wolokom [5k\]: next no eye JohnSmith [1k\]: Less more worser bipbip [2k\]: ha yes sorry more worser akuseru [-\]: it never stops! ] ;B[kd]C[Hoyuk [13k\]: worseness none the less Ephemere [2d\]: yeah! meuns [2k\]: ^^ it [?\]: focus on the game, please wolokom [5k\]: nice Hoyuk [13k\]: 66 Hoyuk [13k\]: ^^ Wildcard [10k\]: n15 seems to be in danger TKo [1k\]: dupasupalative bigJ [6k\]: this looks like a kyu battle Wildcard [10k\]: It's just an illusion Ephemere [2d\]: hard to escape for w mcw85 [7k\]: Yes, and so is white's "moyo." Ephemere [2d\]: l15 probably bigJ [6k\]: l15 yes Gelya [10k\]: m15 after Sheeple [3k\]: is this the final round? Sage [7k\]: whos ahead? IGoofy [1d\]: w can resign Wildcard [10k\]: seems like the only reasonable thing Ephemere [2d\]: l15 m16 l14 n17 maybe R [1k\]: I think that admin 'it' is a psychoanalyst :) and likes Freud tsuchigumo [-\]: how is the body language eurogo? mcw85 [7k\]: 1 more round gobanban [4k\]: black's moyo is gone too meuns [2k\]: l15 Sheeple [3k\]: thx notMe [1d\]: l15 > l14 JohnSmith [1k\]: Kim had too tough morning game meuns [2k\]: b isn't playing a moyo game here qgo [4k\]: L 15 ? jungleboy [3d\]: doesnt work TKo [1k\]: m18 OnTheWay [7k\]: L15 K15 L14 K14 L13? wolokom [5k\]: give some idears instead making noise jungleboy [3d\]: m12 ... gobanban [4k\]: b's territory is gone too taoyan [2k\]: EuroGoTV3, can you read any emotions from white or black player? Hoyuk [13k\]: k18? EuroGoTV3 [-\]: no emotions IchiYuki [-\]: xD Wildcard [10k\]: They are pro, so stone cold taoyan [2k\]: boring.... :) thank you meuns [2k\]: where ccan i find the video ? cashcow [4d\]: b wants to connect Senen [-\]: How much time do they have ? OnTheWay [7k\]: my kyuish feeling prefers rusty here mcw85 [7k\]: Koreans are from Vulcan. Draak [1d\]: what ruleset do koreans use normaly? Ephemere [2d\]: keep on my first idea l15 m16 l14 n17 IGoofy [1d\]: b plays same style as rustysword S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: korean rules i guess mcw85 [7k\]: Coincidence? TKo [1k\]: there is none ] ;W[jb]C[Lacrimosa [1d\]: igoofy, same person Hoyuk [13k\]: ^^ tsuchigumo [-\]: w is in big trouble here ] ;B[ib]C[Gelya [10k\]: j18 ante [10k?\]: time left for both players? Wildcard [10k\]: White likes the unexpected ] ;W[jd]C[meuns [2k\]: tesuji ? Ephemere [2d\]: O_O ? tsuchigumo [-\]: l15 did not work VanEeden [5d\]: roohaah IchiYuki [-\]: cool IchiYuki [-\]: does it works hanamaru [4d\]: W almost dead as l15 did not work B has l14 Gelya [10k\]: k16 ? nice Novalys [2k\]: this is magic shape game wolokom [5k\]: l 15 Lionking [2d\]: people blindly agreeing on this move is sad Gelya [10k\]: l15 work now Ephemere [2d\]: l17 ? tsuchigumo [-\]: emergency measures tho hgfd: omg mcw85 [7k\]: l15 m15 m14 l14 l13 ? Novalys [2k\]: j17 TKo [1k\]: is it a double hane? monk316 [1k\]: didn't this b play already today? BenSenTen [?\]: l17? Gelya [10k\]: l17 Novalys [2k\]: yes looks better ] ;B[ic] ;W[ke]C[Ephemere [2d\]: one of the strangest shape i eve saw Novalys [2k\]: ah no my move Gelya [10k\]: k15 mcw85 [7k\]: I'm tired. Gelya [10k\]: l14 Gelya [10k\]: k15 l14 jungleboy [3d\]: he was expected to have lost! but he solved! BenSenTen [?\]: b wants bigger R [1k\]: b connected, w connected. Peace TKo [1k\]: :| they are at war wolokom [5k\]: a lesson how to play Ephemere [2d\]: no peace, b corner is at risk Hoyuk [13k\]: war of peace BenSenTen [?\]: temp peace, prepare for bigger fight TKo [1k\]: from the 1st to the last move VanEeden [5d\]: i'd say, this sequence is an improvment for w on the plain L15 Ephemere [2d\]: clearly qgo [4k\]: fight without war mcw85 [7k\]: l15 worked not Wildcard [10k\]: k16 reallt helps whote in the escape TKo [1k\]: maybe you mean cold war Wildcard [10k\]: white* BenSenTen [?\]: k15? Ephemere [2d\]: tewari analysis give it good for w compared to l15 straigtforward bigJ [6k\]: who is tewari IGoofy [1d\]: 9p bigJ [6k\]: or what is mcw85 [7k\]: 10p Ephemere [2d\]: tewari is reverse the order of moves mcw85 [7k\]: He just won title/ wolokom [5k\]: falk war Xperiment [2k?\]: tewari is a way to calculate the efficiency of a sequence by reversing move orders bigJ [6k\]: ok thx mcw85 [7k\]: Not necessarily reversing. mcw85 [7k\]: But different order. Ephemere [2d\]: yes, changing preticular: what is the different order here? qgo [4k\]: fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity mcw85 [7k\]: ... cashcow [4d\]: good one Ephemere [2d\]: l15 first for w Battle [4k\]: watch your language qgo [4k\]: peep Lionking [2d\]: qgo, go stand in a corner qgo [4k\]: censor edlee [2k\]: qgo, see you later. ] ;B[je]C[Lionking [2d\]: in this case, the censor equals you being banished mcw85 [7k\]: No, you shouldn't use that language anywhere on KGS TKo [1k\]: so.. he just analyses the reverse order, but not plays it? ] ;W[kf]C[BenSenTen [?\]: l14? preticular: ephemere, that one is obvious then waht? TomGo [1k\]: but wat qgo said sounds right ] ;B[if]C[BenSenTen [?\]: just like sun shine every day meuns [2k\]: i can't predict their moves TKo [1k\]: you are too weak BenSenTen [?\]: why not? tsuchigumo [-\]: w still has a very poor position imo Gelya [10k\]: j14 good taoyan [2k\]: Black is ahead now? Dan-guys? wolokom [5k\]: k 13? meuns [2k\]: yes i am too weak ^^ zen [1k\]: too weak? they are too strong :) Xperiment [2k?\]: b ahead yes tsuchigumo [-\]: q15 group also very weak Wildcard [10k\]: the only way to predict moves is to be clarivoyant TomGo [1k\]: now everyone who thought k16 a bum see the result TKo [1k\]: it is the same :| ] ;W[jg]C[jungleboy [3d\]: they are believed to be strong , 7d:S just9x9 [-\]: both undefeated? EuroGoTV3 [-\]: yes mcw85 [7k\]: only 2 just9x9 [-\]: is there another undefeated couple? EuroGoTV3 [-\]: no wolokom [5k\]: l 12? just9x9 [-\]: thx ] ;B[kh]C[bigJ [6k\]: as advertized Hoyuk [13k\]: i like this game wolokom [5k\]: n 10? ] ;W[ig]C[avio [2d\]: EuroGoTV, where can we see the weekend wallist? VanEeden [5d\]: the position is just very complicated now tsuchigumo [-\]: more magic needed for q15 group EuroGoTV3 [-\]: at the moment only in groningen wolokom [5k\]: that would be too funny BenSenTen [?\]: w also wants to kill Wildcard [10k\]: Seems like it meuns [2k\]: i prefer w here Hoyuk [13k\]: h16 wolokom [5k\]: n 10 and white can resign or? Wildcard [10k\]: anything here can die BenSenTen [?\]: b still leads? VanEeden [5d\]: too complex now, ben jungleboy [3d\]: black may try killing q14 whites troop. VanEeden [5d\]: anything can happen zen [1k\]: m10 ] ;B[lj]C[zen [1k\]: yay TKo [1k\]: how did you know? jungleboy [3d\]: it looks fruitless :S Xperiment [2k?\]: so painful now Kunhikki [1d\]: n9 zen [1k\]: seemed to make sense :) meuns [2k\]: trade KopiPeng [6d\]: white K18 exchange with black J18 seems bad for white BenSenTen [?\]: b may has good result OnTheWay [7k\]: i think b is leading jungleboy [3d\]: he can have choosen efficent move :S ] ;W[nj]C[Kingu [-\]: stop thinking ] ;B[nk] ;W[ok]C[BenSenTen [?\]: center is bigger than upper, this w group if killed is bigger than upper b group bigJ [6k\]: i can smell the wood burning Xperiment [2k?\]: gonna be scary beag: q11? wolokom [5k\]: black olso can die beag: p11* Gaarg [1k\]: 08? Tasky [4k\]: so many crosscuts ] ;B[pk] ;W[mk] ;B[ol] ;W[mj]C[Xperiment [2k?\]: exccelent for b anyhow meuns [2k\]: j18 isn't alive VanEeden [5d\]: mmm. was M10 a good move? seems to have helped w out R [1k\]: for B? $) bigJ [6k\]: b has nice right side meuns [2k\]: m13 isn't alive Wildcard [10k\]: black has sente VanEeden [5d\]: nice r side, but M10 looks bad now wolokom [5k\]: that is dancing on a curdel taoyan [2k\]: l18 is needed to live? BenSenTen [?\]: w is hard to kill now OnTheWay [7k\]: p11? VanEeden [5d\]: b has a long way to run with these stones Gaarg [1k\]: k4for b? BenSenTen [?\]: maybe p11 better than q9 jungleboy [3d\]: l9 wolokom [5k\]: but i like b Neamtujose [4k\]: C11? BenSenTen [?\]: i like b if b is a girl... notMe [1d\]: h16 ] ;B[gf]C[hanamaru [4d\]: h15 ] ;W[he]C[wolokom [5k\]: ah Kunhikki [1d\]: h16 VanEeden [5d\]: strong, hana ProGoVerb [5k\]: j15 would be a bad good move here Ephemere [2d\]: ouch, this is bad Wildcard [10k\]: nice move Novalys [2k\]: shape problem sameasyou [2d\]: w owns xeno [2d\]: not enough to kill though Wildcard [10k\]: white will cut, never expected that Novalys [2k\]: b made profit with the p9 ponnuki Novalys [2k\]: cool attack BenSenTen [?\]: what can b do now? Novalys [2k\]: if b lives on top w has nothing meuns [2k\]: maybe an overplay xeno [2d\]: h18 should make b live wolokom [5k\]: black dont have eye shape too hanamaru [4d\]: h16 Wildcard [10k\]: j17 is dead it seems jantje [1d\]: connectine H14 still works jantje [1d\]: connecting* BenSenTen [?\]: h16? meuns [2k\]: h16 seems nice VanEeden [5d\]: everybody still in favour of b? ] ;B[hd] ;W[gd] ;B[id] ;W[hf] ;B[ge] ;W[gg] ;B[fd]C[meuns [2k\]: m13 is dead now... ^^ Tasky [4k\]: hehe ] ;W[ef]C[TomGo [1k\]: yes favor b BenSenTen [?\]: not yet meuns [2k\]: if m13 run w get a huge bottom ] ;B[kk]C[GocchiSama [2d\]: go oh chi min meuns [2k\]: so m13 dead VanEeden [5d\]: suddenly, w center is strong huggy [3k\]: b disagrees ] ;W[mm] ;B[km]C[meuns [2k\]: l7 ? meuns [2k\]: yes ! Novalys [2k\]: w center may be strong, but he has no points now huggy [3k\]: ! BenSenTen [?\]: b center is strong now BenSenTen [?\]: w ruuning for life S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: strength >>> points Novalys [2k\]: at some point it's not enough to be strong BenSenTen [?\]: points = win Kunhikki [1d\]: k10 OnTheWay [7k\]: time please? DrH0use [2d\]: 14:04 EuroGoTV3 [-\]: white 0:33, black 0:31 donzet [?\]: tea please huggy [3k\]: 13.04 on my clock Redwalljp [5k\]: 21:04 wolokom [5k\]: k 11 ? OnTheWay [7k\]: thanks for all the informations huggy [3k\]: welcome DrH0use [2d\]: s18? sameasyou [2d\]: 15:39 OnTheWay [7k\]: *information tsuchigumo [-\]: b winning imo BenSenTen [?\]: ioo Kunhikki [1d\]: k10 and b bad shape DrH0use [2d\]: i prefer b OnTheWay [7k\]: n8 cuttable atm? sameasyou [2d\]: no...but tengem looks nice sameasyou [2d\]: tengen ] ;W[kn]C[GeoProbe [4d\]: w m8 then m5 Tasky [4k\]: doesn't tengen make n8 cut work? meuns [2k\]: huge bottom :'( ] ;B[jn] ;W[ln]C[R [1k\]: noone saw l6 OnTheWay [7k\]: cut! sameasyou [2d\]: it's all about the points says the 7d :) sameasyou [2d\]: these guys are easy 8d here...probably 9 meuns [2k\]: k7 Kunhikki [1d\]: k7 heavy BenSenTen [?\]: b need to strengthen the center group Tasky [4k\]: j8 ? meuns [2k\]: seems honte wolokom [5k\]: black center is still not alive! and white moyo is growing Draak [1d\]: oh chi min is rustysword 9d sameasyou [2d\]: k7 heavy but it looks like w will cut of b doesn't connect cyp2d6 [9k\]: @sameasyou: Oh Chi Minh is 9d on KGS sameasyou [2d\]: I see :) BenSenTen [?\]: what's his id? IchiYuki [-\]: rustysword ProGoVerb [5k\]: rusty sword BenSenTen [?\]: account name? BenSenTen [?\]: oh BenSenTen [?\]: thx ProGoVerb [5k\]: np R [1k\]: k5 and fight OnTheWay [7k\]: n8 m8 o8 m9 m7 l8 k8 l10 ? Kunhikki [1d\]: k5 VanEeden [5d\]: b K5 is not a move. w can simply L4 GeoProbe [4d\]: K6 is probably a bad move DrH0use [2d\]: k4 now BenSenTen [?\]: j7 seems good to me... BenSenTen [?\]: k7 taoyan [2k\]: k7 meuns [2k\]: ^^ OnTheWay [7k\]: whats wrong with n8 cut?? R [1k\]: k4 is not a move, w can simply k3 sameasyou [2d\]: j7 no good...what will u do when w k8? ] ;B[jp]C[DrH0use [2d\]: loool taoyan [2k\]: hahah DrH0use [2d\]: you said? Kuros [8k\]: ontheway you said the sequence meuns [2k\]: suicidal Erimies [4d\]: risky plan S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: n8 cut is reckless in many ways, ontheway Onmyoji [2d\]: o hanamaru [4d\]: k7 donzet [?\]: things will get complicated sameasyou [2d\]: I also think k7 BenSenTen [?\]: wow, not rusty sword at all, he has sharpen his sword DrH0use [2d\]: k5 ShibumiSan [10k\]: k7 now? wolokom [5k\]: funny but beautyful ] ;W[jm]C[S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: wow k4 GeoProbe [4d\]: b dangerous Tasky [4k\]: another cut!?! donzet [?\]: j6 ] ;B[in]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: w neds to kill something to win tsuchigumo [-\]: needs* ] ;W[im] ;B[hm] ;W[il] ;B[hl] ;W[ik]C[OnTheWay [7k\]: b cant save both groups IGoofy [1d\]: b can resign huggy [3k\]: wow Kunhikki [1d\]: b sacrifice and kill j3 R [1k\]: if you could crosscut, crosscut! zen [1k\]: what's this? bohica [5k\]: b invasion below is enough for b to win ] ;B[jq]C[Novalys [2k\]: oh god Hoyuk [13k\]: b doesn't look to good, but let's see Novalys [2k\]: painful hanamaru [4d\]: k2 Erimies [4d\]: h6 huggy [3k\]: centre not that big anyway Novalys [2k\]: anything will be a big loss here donzet [?\]: h6 ProGoVerb [5k\]: stop beeing silly its exchange BenSenTen [?\]: h6! ] ;W[dr]C[Kunhikki [1d\]: w looks quite alive ProGoVerb [5k\]: u guys change opinion more often than i change sox Ras [19k\]: i thought the broadcast didnt start for another hour, too bad i cant rewind the moves Novalys [2k\]: h9 and all are b's sente TKo [1k\]: the dans are wrong cyp2d6 [9k\]: you can, Ras Battle [4k\]: you can rewind by cloning ras Kuros [8k\]: ras: options/view offline BenSenTen [?\]: alive not enough, but has vigorous fight cyp2d6 [9k\]: Make a local copy donzet [?\]: r3 willcompensate wolokom [5k\]: nice Ras [19k\]: ty battle Hko [8k\]: @Ras: click optiions / View offline. You can then rewind/brwose the moves Kunhikki [1d\]: b has a cool plan zen [1k\]: h9 looks important ] ;B[cr]C[R [1k\]: b haD a cool plan Novalys [2k\]: indeed bigJ [6k\]: ras you can rewind moves by options then clik offline Novalys [2k\]: (for h9 indeed) GeoProbe [4d\]: it may just be a plan Kunhikki [1d\]: its cool anyway donzet [?\]: h8 maybe too early Novalys [2k\]: but after this R3 keeps the whole group eyeless GeoProbe [4d\]: if it's too hard to capture w group, it's just a plan BenSenTen [?\]: i would h6 instead of h8 Hoyuk [13k\]: will h12 be good kakashi? Tasky [4k\]: h6 gote, h8 sente ProGoVerb [5k\]: if black gets all of this in sente its over scurge [5d\]: hi, how is jan simara doing? are there any results? wolokom [5k\]: what about h5? Novalys [2k\]: h5 removing all b's weakness Ephemere [2d\]: j2 ? BenSenTen [?\]: h6 super sente GeoProbe [4d\]: however, if b M8 then H12, there is b's plan B InABuzz [-\]: kikashi ] ;W[ip] ;B[io] ;W[jr]C[VanEeden [5d\]: w goin to live with points BenSenTen [?\]: all these moves maybe preparation for h6 wolokom [5k\]: g 5 later? zen [1k\]: as long as w lives in gote, b can h9 InABuzz [-\]: h12 j12 i think ] ;B[kr] ;W[ir]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: collateral damage will be considerable imo donzet [?\]: whita attack black group on a large scale hanamaru [4d\]: B will rather play h12 than h9 zen [1k\]: really? Hoyuk [13k\]: i agree Ephemere [2d\]: m3 or l5 ? tsuchigumo [-\]: yes h12 very irritating for w ] ;B[lq] ;W[eq]C[Ras [19k\]: h12 h13 j12? InABuzz [-\]: h12 h13 j10 Ras [19k\]: ah tsuchigumo [-\]: any emotions from the inscrutable orientals yet eurogo? InABuzz [-\]: dunni^ semiclassy [2d\]: hanamaru, h12 h13 exchange kills the upper group? InABuzz [-\]: dunno VanEeden [5d\]: b center 57,005 InABuzz [-\]: just an idea ] ;B[dp]C[InABuzz [-\]: i thin w would not h13 because of that InABuzz [-\]: w h9 huge InABuzz [-\]: or? BenSenTen [?\]: f6? GeoProbe [4d\]: h12 h13 H10 R [1k\]: w s4 ? donzet [?\]: g5 GeoProbe [4d\]: w no time to play s4 wolokom [5k\]: f 6? stupit or not? InABuzz [-\]: what bigger s4 or h9? R [1k\]: seems f3 is alive zen [1k\]: does b live on the top after h12 h13? taoyan [2k\]: Dan-guys, you still like b in the game? InABuzz [-\]: i do Erimies [4d\]: b is fine huggy [3k\]: yes we do InABuzz [-\]: not a dan^ GeoProbe [4d\]: :) zen [1k\]: ok if you say so :) gogonuts [4d\]: fine is saying too much ] ;W[hk]C[albundy [2k\]: h9 forces B to play h6? InABuzz [-\]: h9 :P VanEeden [5d\]: of course we like b, w stands for wimpy zen [1k\]: oh.. w lives in sente? Hoyuk [13k\]: s4 is not the problem now InABuzz [-\]: where w has sente? BenSenTen [?\]: w wants points without big fight pdndar [3k\]: c10? tsuchigumo [-\]: b well ahead imho VanEeden [5d\]: yup, b too many weaknesses to kill saiiscool [4d\]: white is ahead gogonuts [4d\]: i say w too pdndar [3k\]: c10 or f5 for b wolokom [5k\]: now it is very close cashcow [4d\]: W+8.5 globax [4d\]: g5-e1-r3 cashcow [4d\]: mark my words gogonuts [4d\]: b had the better fuseki donzet [?\]: r3 will be keypoint for victory for both player gogonuts [4d\]: but that was then velther: who is Q tsuchigumo [-\]: we will cashcow, we will velther: W Altair [8k\]: center is lost for B zen [1k\]: h9 was keypoint I think.. VanEeden [5d\]: this is not the fuseki InABuzz [-\]: yup, it will be my epitaph cashcow Badduck [5d\]: hm w center looks big Kunhikki [1d\]: g2 looks nasty gogonuts [4d\]: indeed, that center looks awful for b InABuzz [-\]: still aji saiiscool [4d\]: r3 now InABuzz [-\]: cant tenuki imo wolokom [5k\]: but nothing more butt DrH0use [2d\]: r3. donzet [?\]: r3 too early InABuzz [-\]: h9 look sente wolokom [5k\]: buzz donzet [?\]: they have to fix position ProGoVerb [5k\]: f8 gogonuts [4d\]: something on the left hanamaru [4d\]: s4 better than s3 IMO DrH0use [2d\]: no DrH0use [2d\]: imo Fredrik [-\]: , gogonuts [4d\]: possibly g6 saiiscool [4d\]: h4? VanEeden [5d\]: b lives in berlin. is he mad about those guys from seoul losing only to other guys from seoul? TKo [1k\]: emo InABuzz [-\]: wolkom. wut? BenSenTen [?\]: b like rusty shape DrH0use [2d\]: g4 ShibumiSan [10k\]: G5? ] ;B[er] ;W[fr] ;B[ds]C[globax [4d\]: g5 InABuzz [-\]: fight for the game=? DrH0use [2d\]: h5 Erimies [4d\]: h5 just prob better ] ;W[go]C[Tasky [4k\]: b has some nise territory now InABuzz [-\]: b must survive InABuzz [-\]: and w too gogonuts [4d\]: hm, i admit e2 was a good way to avoid w h6 HikaShin [-\]: just like his earlier game XD HikaShin [-\]: must survive... wolokom [5k\]: is b alive ? saiiscool [4d\]: h9 was very big DrH0use [2d\]: no BenSenTen [?\]: seems w leads the game now taoyan [2k\]: is w alive? Badduck [5d\]: 90% InABuzz [-\]: g6 sente? ] ;B[gn] ;W[ho] ;B[hn]C[taoyan [2k\]: cahscow already told the result...not so exiting anymore :P gogonuts [4d\]: now is the question saiiscool [4d\]: f6 OnTheWay [7k\]: m3 looked small Ephemere [2d\]: l5 k5 l4 l3 ? wolokom [5k\]: iw it is Badduck [5d\]: bg9 +b f10? ] ;W[fo]C[OnTheWay [7k\]: h8 or h9 instead of m3 donzet [?\]: white sente he can play s4 now InABuzz [-\]: tenuki! InABuzz [-\]: r3? BenSenTen [?\]: w should be rusty sword, not b... gogonuts [4d\]: a very interesting fight for sente ] ;B[qq] ;W[qp] ;B[pq]C[IchiYuki [-\]: no chi min is rusty R [1k\]: w lives in sente two times :))) donzet [?\]: kgs must electe kim joon sang like hononary 9d member esko [2k\]: m3 not small InABuzz [-\]: w had gote lol BenSenTen [?\]: w's style more rusty than b ] ;W[oq] ;B[rp] ;W[ro] ;B[rq] ;W[qo] ;B[rn]C[ProGoVerb [5k\]: B can resign no ProGoVerb [5k\]: now InABuzz [-\]: why? R [1k\]: j5 has to connect, so w's sente SN00PY [4k\]: bc he asked SE SN00PY [4k\]: XD tsuchigumo [-\]: I still think b is ahead donzet [?\]: things looks fine for black InABuzz [-\]: w f5 b r3 so b sente ProGoVerb [5k\]: because white killed senter got small moyo on upper left got life lower left and black got an unsettled group ] ;W[oo]C[Badduck [5d\]: b10 is big too ] ;B[gk] ;W[gj]C[donzet [?\]: f5 too gentle maybe ] ;B[fj] ;W[fk] ;B[gl] ;W[gi]C[huggy [3k\]: can b still invade in c12 b12 area? ProGoVerb [5k\]: black has failed gogonuts [4d\]: can b take sente agian? Hoyuk [13k\]: now center is bad for b InABuzz [-\]: why b has failed? Badduck [5d\]: b10 enough perhaps InABuzz [-\]: w only ha the center tsuchigumo [-\]: centre to so big DrH0use [2d\]: o6 cut? tsuchigumo [-\]: not so* gogonuts [4d\]: b10 is dangerous DrH0use [2d\]: o6 cut! gogonuts [4d\]: but b needs points :-) Ras [19k\]: if i save the game does it save the commentary too Mem0r3x [1k\]: o6 n5 Mem0r3x [1k\]: ? TKo [1k\]: yes InABuzz [-\]: yes ras BenSenTen [?\]: will h7 be killed? DrH0use [2d\]: then o5 DrH0use [2d\]: it cut half the grp gogonuts [4d\]: first e9 for f11? saiiscool [4d\]: h7 safe ProGoVerb [5k\]: If black gets all four corners he should resign" ProVerb Kunhikki [1d\]: f11 DieHARD [?\]: pliz tell me how playing alexander dinerstain!! DieHARD [?\]: somebody porcinet [1d\]: come at the egc DrH0use [2d\]: pay him TKo [1k\]: so maybe he lets w take the upper right Mem0r3x [1k\]: Top right isn't black's yet. OnTheWay [7k\]: time please? wolokom [5k\]: think he can still loose one and than winn? donzet [?\]: alexender does well in the main tournament globax [4d\]: is c10 possible ? porcinet [1d\]: Kim joon is a really nice person !! huggy [3k\]: 13.33 here ] ;B[ek]C[InABuzz [-\]: connection fisrt^^ DieHARD [?\]: thx porcinet [1d\]: C10 ? then hane ? EuroGoTV3 [-\]: white 0:21, black 0:14 Ras [19k\]: 7:33 here, i woke up early from a night of drinking just for this! ] ;W[bk]C[OnTheWay [7k\]: thanks InABuzz [-\]: lol ras :D nice Hoyuk [13k\]: 14:42 here InABuzz [-\]: hehe hoyuk ProGoVerb [5k\]: c9 c10 b8 b10 meuns [2k\]: who is leading ? porcinet [1d\]: W InABuzz [-\]: 14:62 here Badduck [5d\]: w ] ;B[fs]C[taoyan [2k\]: b f11 is not dangerous? Hoyuk [13k\]: seriously DrH0use [2d\]: feria de bayonna somebody? Groseille [9k\]: oui docteur house :p porcinet [1d\]: np DrH0use [2d\]: bien bien :) porcinet [1d\]: no Hoyuk [13k\]: inabuzz, my i have your watch? Groseille [9k\]: mais il a fait tres mauvais temps dommage :) wolokom [5k\]: g2? Neamtujose [4k\]: i think the score is close porcinet [1d\]: G2 globax [4d\]: seki possible there ? DrH0use [2d\]: moi jy v cet aprem ] ;W[gr]C[DrH0use [2d\]: mai on é pa la pr bronzer DrH0use [2d\]: :p wolokom [5k\]: h 3 Groseille [9k\]: tu es d'ou? moi du lot et garonne donc sud ouest :) InABuzz [-\]: who needs a watch? i trust microsoft always: 14:63 now DrH0use [2d\]: ascain saiiscool [4d\]: k1 DrH0use [2d\]: a coter de saint jean de luz Groseille [9k\]: oui je connais mon amie est d'anglet :) porcinet [1d\]: K1 W H3 Redwalljp [5k\]: or b h3 R [1k\]: b b14 and t5 after ShibumiSan [10k\]: des basques, des sudistes, heureusement qu'y a un breton ici :D porcinet [1d\]: st jean de luz c'est pas une station de ski ca ? Badduck [5d\]: parl ä wu english please Redwalljp [5k\]: then k1 and h1 become miai DrH0use [2d\]: no pa du tt ShibumiSan [10k\]: qui va au festival interceltique? DrH0use [2d\]: c sur la cote Groseille [9k\]: :D elle est bonne Hoyuk [13k\]: i ate some bad duck once Askas [9k?\]: how is E7 for white? poukram [1d\]: stop papoting please ] ;B[bl]C[Kingu [-\]: vous voulez pas continuer vos petites causeries en privé ? DrH0use [2d\]: to papote papoted papoten ? Groseille [9k\]: mdr VanEeden [5d\]: c pa frcais ] ;W[qi]C[Redwalljp [5k\]: bless you. InABuzz [-\]: close game right? ] ;B[ri] ;W[sn] ;B[sp] ;W[so] ;B[rl]C[porcinet [1d\]: SE ? ] ;W[pr]C[Askas [9k?\]: what do you think about E7 for white? ] ;B[qr] ;W[or] ;B[sr]C[InABuzz [-\]: e7 overplay i think porcinet [1d\]: clearly saiiscool [4d\]: me too Badduck [5d\]: c9 c10 ? globax [4d\]: close game R [1k\]: w l5 Askas [9k?\]: too small? ladder breaker and can get to F5 ] ;W[rb]C[huggy [3k\]: f11 urgent no? ] ;B[rc] ;W[sc]C[globax [4d\]: f11soon big InABuzz [-\]: e7 dosnt work ] ;B[qb] ;W[mb]C[Askas [9k?\]: it does ] ;B[nb]C[saiiscool [4d\]: e7 gets cuted Tasky [4k\]: now b has a chance to win ] ;W[kb]C[Askas [9k?\]: not with F9?? InABuzz [-\]: f9 is in atari^ porcinet [1d\]: nice Askas [9k?\]: E7, if black cut E6,F7 white can play F8 Askas [9k?\]: no? hanamaru [4d\]: Bh3 makes seki porcinet [1d\]: no ] ;B[fi]C[InABuzz [-\]: 4dan commented this move InABuzz [-\]: schould trsut in his reading^ saiiscool [4d\]: g17 not killing the group? Askas [9k?\]: not working anymore with F11.. InABuzz [-\]: never worked, anyway porcinet [1d\]: G17 ?? porcinet [1d\]: why JoostC [3d\]: if w f12 blak h12 InABuzz [-\]: right ^^ ] ;W[fh]C[pwnz0r [1k\]: b probably cant h12 because upper group is weak now globax [4d\]: g17 Hoyuk [13k\]: goeie genugtig Redwalljp [5k\]: hehe saiiscool [4d\]: g17 for me too saiiscool [4d\]: for white globax [4d\]: yes globax [4d\]: he could kill porcinet [1d\]: then F18 ? gribben74 [4d\]: h12 starts warming up for black porcinet [1d\]: g17 f18 then ? tsuchigumo [-\]: g17 or h18 S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: no porcinet -.- ] ;B[nn]C[saiiscool [4d\]: maybe w doesnt need to kill :-) Ras [19k\]: cant b just g18? porcinet [1d\]: Ras it doesnt work with H 18 ] ;W[no]C[Ras [19k\]: h19, captured? saiiscool [4d\]: looks dangerous S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: i think g18 lives b/c of connection aji, if w g17 InABuzz [-\]: ai ai aji globax [4d\]: f14 urgent saiiscool [4d\]: n6 donzet [?\]: black N2 needed too fight InABuzz [-\]: center more urgent or? OnTheWay [7k\]: L17 second eye in gote cashcow [4d\]: n2 S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: well of course w gets l17, ontheway S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: i think b can make an eye at the top then by threatening to connect ] ;B[mo]C[InABuzz [-\]: sente first ^^ ] ;W[mp]C[globax [4d\]: preparing b l8? saiiscool [4d\]: w in danger now ProGoVerb [5k\]: w + about komi globax [4d\]: yes, i think center aji scary JoostC [3d\]: Black maybe wants to play 08, cutting means white has to take out the stones Hoyuk [13k\]: b seems to have another plan, rather than h12 InABuzz [-\]: how ccan you count if a fight is going on proverb? JoostC [3d\]: sorry n8 ProGoVerb [5k\]: i am god saiiscool [4d\]: but with l5 sente for w, hum... ] ;B[lo]C[Hoyuk [13k\]: SE is god Redwalljp [5k\]: demigod at best Hoyuk [13k\]: lol DrunkElk: megan fox is goddess Hoyuk [13k\]: :D ] ;W[mn]C[TKo [1k\]: is she hot? Hoyuk [13k\]: ???????????????? porcinet [1d\]: tg S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: who is mega fox HikaShin [-\]: you don't know megan fox =O S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: no HikaShin [-\]: transformers? Hoyuk [13k\]: google it now! DrunkElk: yeah quite hot SirEttin [2d?\]: Keep the discussion related to the game FELIGO [7k\]: she's hot sur InABuzz [-\]: i feel someone will resign soon donzet [?\]: yes what sai should play now? Hoyuk [13k\]: ok, back to ...hot megan....i mean game saiiscool [4d\]: b need to connect now saiiscool [4d\]: l5 JoostC [3d\]: n8 Tasky [4k\]: w live in sente? DrunkElk: w live in goate saiiscool [4d\]: yes gote TKo [1k\]: l5 gribben74 [4d\]: l5 is sente saiiscool [4d\]: l5 sente and prepares attack albundy [2k\]: m8 globax [4d\]: l5-l8-m2-p6 gribben74 [4d\]: but maybe white can play o7 in reply Mem0r3x [1k\]: Doesn't white has q6 or n2 to live? donzet [?\]: i don't really see a gain for this black sequence EuroGoTV3 [-\]: white 0:14, black 0:03 globax [4d\]: thx TomGo [1k\]: thx! InABuzz [-\]: says alot eurogotv^^ saiiscool [4d\]: l5- n2 - n8 porcinet [1d\]: then 20scd ... gona be hard for b globax [4d\]: gain is n2 sente gribben74 [4d\]: maybe go all out and play n8 Flesk [1k\]: N8 looks nasty ThongNha [9k\]: who wins the game ? DrunkElk: the one with more poitns at the end meuns [2k\]: w seems to lead HikaShin [-\]: the person w/ the high score wins HikaShin [-\]: :) Hoyuk [13k\]: or the one who doesn't resign DrunkElk: or jigo pebarefoot [-\]: is this the final game ? Mem0r3x [1k\]: I counted black + a phew. saiiscool [4d\]: no TomGo [1k\]: the better or the luckier or both of them gribben74 [4d\]: saiiscool white can make eye at p6-q6 DrunkElk: peba, i believe there are 5 rounds saiiscool [4d\]: one more Ras [19k\]: the one who doesnt vomit up blood from stress wins in life DrunkElk: n1 ras InABuzz [-\]: when is the final pls? dutch time pebarefoot [-\]: How many more , please ? Cassis0 [5d\]: complicated globax [4d\]: l5-l8-n2-p6 EuroGoTV3 [-\]: 5th round in one hour saiiscool [4d\]: yes, but the eyes would cost the capture of n6 InABuzz [-\]: thx eurogo! S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: there is something like a dutch time? O_o pebarefoot [-\]: thx gribben74 [4d\]: no not if he connect then miai saiiscool [4d\]: n8 now then gribben74 [4d\]: yes gribben74 [4d\]: i think so TomGo [1k\]: b byoyomi starting? EuroGoTV3 [-\]: black in BY InABuzz [-\]: o again, j18 alive? Flesk [1k\]: white needs to sac N6 to live lower right? ] ;B[ml]C[Flesk [1k\]: yea Flesk [1k\]: looks like it ;OI ] ;W[ll]C[saiiscool [4d\]: yes DrunkElk: good call casiis Tasky [4k\]: what BY are they playin with? InABuzz [-\]: b all in ] ;B[nl]C[sameasyou [2d\]: only chance Ras [19k\]: 20s BY GeoProbe [4d\]: this is like resigning Tasky [4k\]: how many periods? pebarefoot [-\]: 1 donzet [?\]: b all out Tasky [4k\]: omg saiiscool [4d\]: l5 porcinet [1d\]: pebare are you sure ? globax [4d\]: center semeaï OnTheWay [7k\]: o8 bad? Flesk [1k\]: hrm InABuzz [-\]: l5 and n3 later? Flesk [1k\]: white still live in gote after L8 no? taoyan [2k\]: white has to connect M9 right? Draak [1d\]: yes Flesk [1k\]: seems P6 N2 miai? saiiscool [4d\]: if w connects, then l5 for black DrunkElk: not if o7 sente InABuzz [-\]: not n3? ] ;W[kl]C[OnTheWay [7k\]: q6 lujh: it is a trap,w cannot paly L5 Hoyuk [13k\]: m9 saiiscool [4d\]: l5 now ] ;B[ko]C[saiiscool [4d\]: hehe DrunkElk: saiis u rock InABuzz [-\]: lol Hoyuk [13k\]: i suck ] ;W[pn]C[gribben74 [4d\]: n2 and then p11 gribben74 [4d\]: oh OnTheWay [7k\]: hehe ] ;B[nm] ;W[lm]C[sameasyou [2d\]: very close game though porcinet [1d\]: he's 7d korean , not 4d kGS globax [4d\]: m9? porcinet [1d\]: even no , he is 6d korean Hoyuk [13k\]: yes ^^ m9 ] ;B[ie] ;W[hg]C[OnTheWay [7k\]: timesuji ] ;B[ei]C[InABuzz [-\]: m9 timetesuji, right^ globax [4d\]: ok Mem0r3x [1k\]: What about l17? InABuzz [-\]: l17 e15? saiiscool [4d\]: is n2 a good idea? zen [1k\]: what good does it do? lujh: n2 just sente saiiscool [4d\]: sente gentlerain [-\]: oh ] ;W[eh]C[saiiscool [4d\]: big yose move I think VanEeden [5d\]: ha! w goes for the kill globax [4d\]: about 4 points , so soon played ] ;B[oi]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: can w not get a ko at least with h18? ] ;W[oh]C[gribben74 [4d\]: sai -> yes big yose and sente lujh: d11now ] ;B[di] ;W[hb]C[saiiscool [4d\]: g17 now? VanEeden [5d\]: allright tsuchigumo [-\]: at last saiiscool [4d\]: oh my god tsuchigumo [-\]: climax DrunkElk: was it so easy? ] ;B[mc]C[InABuzz [-\]: w ha sr8 sente DrunkElk: b desperado Onmyoji [2d\]: will there be more games broadcasted today? VanEeden [5d\]: can w J19? ] ;W[ld]C[taoyan [2k\]: one more saiiscool [4d\]: h19 ] ;B[gb]C[Mem0r3x [1k\]: h19 g18 VanEeden [5d\]: too simple ] ;W[ia]C[cashcow [4d\]: G19 magic saiiscool [4d\]: game over w wins pdndar [3k\]: black wins Erimies [4d\]: d19 doesnt work ] ;B[gc]C[InABuzz [-\]: e15 ] ;W[da]C[lujh: d19 sente ] ;B[ha]C[lujh: strange ] ;W[ca]C[VanEeden [5d\]: b almost wins ^^ Elscouta [2k\]: ouch Mem0r3x [1k\]: Hmmm zen [1k\]: ugh Erimies [4d\]: b has lost the gaem ] ;B[ch]C[InABuzz [-\]: hihi ] ;W[bg]C[gentlerain [-\]: w could have captured the dragon gopro [1k\]: N2? Mem0r3x [1k\]: It is only 7 stones. saiiscool [4d\]: no gentlerain ] ;B[ep]C[DrunkElk: gente rain what are you talkinga bouy InABuzz [-\]: its a orner ] ;W[gs]C[gopro [1k\]: doesnt B n2 kill? Neamtujose [4k\]: w+5 ] ;B[mr]C[taoyan [2k\]: gentlerain, which dragon? InABuzz [-\]: gentlerain, the 9dan? ] ;W[on]C[Neamtujose [4k\]: game is still open VanEeden [5d\]: drunk: please don't speak french donzet [?\]: 3stones is just a nail for a dragon ] ;B[bh]C[globax [4d\]: m9?? DrunkElk: :) gopro [1k\]: nvm ] ;W[ah]C[mccrusty [2k\]: you guys realize bi jang is by far the strongest kibitzer here ] ;B[ai]C[DrunkElk: it's only french to your sober eye gentlerain [-\]: but that seems enough for w ] ;W[ag]C[Hoyuk [13k\]: no rusty ] ;B[bi]C[Tasky [4k\]: no b only 2 corners ] ;W[en]C[Elscouta [2k\]: m9 big? ] ;B[lk]C[VanEeden [5d\]: UL huge loss. game over gentlerain [-\]: yes you're right InABuzz [-\]: hmm ] ;W[lh]C[saiiscool [4d\]: is w q8 possible? plusguy [-\]: black is not the resigning type i guess ] ;B[em]C[S1lv3rD1m3 [3d\]: q8 sure why not ] ;W[ql]C[DrunkElk: b falling apart jSd [8k\]: b+37.5 ] ;B[rm]C[tsuchigumo [-\]: game lived up to expectations VanEeden [5d\]: oh ] ;W[rk]C[VanEeden [5d\]: w s9 ] ;B[qk] ;W[sl] ;B[rj] ;W[sk] ;B[pm] ;W[sm] ;B[qm]C[VanEeden [5d\]: terrible Hoyuk [13k\]: wow Hoyuk [13k\]: nice InABuzz [-\]: resining type, lol, its like clip-on earring piercings for emos Chilltime [2k\]: and in gote ouch ] ;W[dn] ;B[fn] ;W[eo]C[VanEeden [5d\]: no need to think now Novalys [2k\]: oh i just came back, b lost top left : / ] ;B[cg] ;W[bf]C[DrunkElk: yes nova, see what you did! Novalys [2k\]: sorry ;_; gentlerain [-\]: rusty is such a nice guy, he knows how to take care of friends who came from far away globax [4d\]: n19 ] ;B[sb] ;W[sa]C[InABuzz [-\]: who is rustyschword? pls DrunkElk: oh, do they know each other? Novalys [2k\]: oh chi min is rustysword gentlerain [-\]: yes i do Novalys [2k\]: Very nice guy indeed InABuzz [-\]: o thx novalys! ] ;B[ma]C[Novalys [2k\]: a bit shy at the beginning Novalys [2k\]: ^^ gentlerain [-\]: w must be in happy mode right now Tasky [4k\]: how's w on time? zen [1k\]: rusty's profile says he will win EGC2009 :) DrunkElk: good mode to make a fatal mistake Novalys [2k\]: Could black save bot hthe top left and the top ? Erimies [4d\]: nop ] ;W[lb]C[Novalys [2k\]: (gentlerain you don't play on kgs anymore because it lacks strong players ?) lujh: q12 gentlerain [-\]: no no ] ;B[dg]C[lujh: q12 takes 2 stones gentlerain [-\]: i'm just too busy at this moment Novalys [2k\]: okay :) blaze: すごいな ] ;W[es] ;B[mq] ;W[np]C[DrunkElk: sang already beat rusty in the main tournament, so this is 2nd time VanEeden [5d\]: ^^ ] ;B[fs]C[InABuzz [-\]: hehe ] ;W[cn] ;B[bn]C[lujh: ?? ] ;W[es]C[blaze: なんでみんな英語なの ] ;B[dr]C[lujh: miss ? Hoyuk [13k\]: f13 ] ;W[om] ;B[pl]C[Novalys [2k\]: losing the corner wasreally horrible : / ] ;W[lp] ;B[kp]C[Elscouta [2k\]: m1? saiiscool [4d\]: m1 big ] ;W[fe] ;B[ff] ;W[ee]C[huggy [3k\]: the corner was the price for the invasion ] ;B[kc] ;W[kg]C[saiiscool [4d\]: w winning Novalys [2k\]: yeah but chi min is too nice to lose a corner ;_; ] ;B[pi]C[jSd [8k\]: b 55 saiiscool [4d\]: this move proves it InABuzz [-\]: what is big if you are 15+ points behind ] ;W[ph] ;B[sf] ;W[sd]C[pebarefoot [-\]: a 16 point move ! Mem0r3x [1k\]: d14 InABuzz [-\]: b hoping for a mistake InABuzz [-\]: lol jSd [8k\]: w 62.5 EuroGoTV3 [-\]: black has resigned InABuzz [-\]: :D InABuzz [-\]: thx euro Novalys [2k\]: poor chi min : / Ras [19k\]: good game to both unProphet [7k\]: thanks pebarefoot [-\]: thx euro Ras [19k\]: thx eurogotv Hoyuk [13k\]: gg Tasky [4k\]: thx saiiscool [4d\]: thx Hoyuk [13k\]: se is crazy Rolf [?\]: Thanks EuroGoTV Redwalljp [5k\]: Thanks EurogoTV gentlerain [-\]: eurogoty3! please say to kim good job for me Ras [19k\]: when is next game to be broadcasted? Hoyuk [13k\]: Thanks EuroGoTV3 EuroGoTV3 [-\]: next round in 45 minutes tsuchigumo [-\]: Thy very much glint [-\]: Ras, look at EuroGoTV3's profile scurge [5d\]: could you tell me against whom is Jan Simara playing? scurge [5d\]: or send us the link to the results pleasE? kjp [1k\]: what does the picture show ? VanEeden [5d\]: next badcroast? Redwalljp [5k\]: next broadcast in 45 min Redwalljp [5k\]: ah.. oops Redwalljp [5k\]: next round. sorry VanEeden [5d\]: ok c u a round scurge [5d\]: !!! zouave [15k?\]: ? zouave [15k?\]: la partie est en live ? Neamtujose [4k\]: oui zouave [15k?\]: black perd completement non ? Askas [9k?\]: the game will be broadcast here? Neamtujose [4k\]: next in half hour Askas [9k?\]: but in the same place? Neamtujose [4k\]: think so Askas [9k?\]: or they will create another board Askas [9k?\]: ok Askas [9k?\]: thanks Neamtujose [4k\]: same room Neamtujose [4k\]: c u zouave [15k?\]: ... urim03 [7k\]: W win? zouave [15k?\]: pquoi les compteurs défilent pas ? urim03 [7k\]: parce que c'est une demo pas une partie zouave [15k?\]: cad zouave [15k?\]: une retransmission ? urim03 [7k\]: oui en live zouave [15k?\]: ok ty urim03 [7k\]: the game is finish? EuroGoTV3 [-\]: W+R urim03 [7k\]: ok thanks ])