(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[1x20 byo-yomi]
GN[EGC 2009 Weekend Tournament round 5 board 1]PW[Kim Joon Sang]PB[Ilya Shikshin]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2009-08-02]EV[weekend]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]WT[KR]BT[RU]US[kamyszyn]
;B[qd]
;W[dc]
;B[pq]
;W[dp]
;B[de]
;W[ce]
;B[dd]
;W[cd]
;B[ec]
;W[cf]
;B[db]
;W[cc]
;B[jc]C[Reiter101 [-\]: free game?
]
;W[po]
;B[pl]
;W[np]
;B[oo]
;W[op]
;B[pp]
;W[pn]
;B[mo]
;W[om]
;B[no]
;W[or]
;B[mp]
;W[pr]
;B[qr]
;W[mr]
;B[ro]
;W[kq]
;B[qm]
;W[ol]C[just9x9 [-\]: oh, ilja again
just9x9 [-\]: can he win the tournament?
sameasyou [2d\]: go Ilya!!!
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: I'm not sure, Ilya won against Christian Pop in previous round 
]
;B[ok]
;W[nk]
;B[oj]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: gogo roln
just9x9 [-\]: if he wins will be a sos thing i guess?
]
;W[ml]C[sameasyou [2d\]: that is likely a game that we will also see in the main tournament
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: I can't see a table from my place
just9x9 [-\]: me neither :(
just9x9 [-\]: ;)
gdghgjd [1d\]: if shikshin wins, every 7d lost once, is that right?
just9x9 [-\]: n11too important
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: yes
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: maybe not every
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: some of them can lost twice
gdghgjd [1d\]: yes, ok
]
;B[mq]
;W[nr]
;B[jo]C[just9x9 [-\]: moving n5? a must here? sacrificing no option?
globax [4d\]: h3-l8
]
;W[ip]C[lkay: is this game broadcasting online via tv?
]
;B[io]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: not today
]
;W[ho]C[Hoyuk [13k\]: i wish there was a 8p here as in USG
memememe4 [?\]: how will that affect your life Hoyuk_
just9x9 [-\]: lol meme
Draak [1d\]: ^^
scurge [5d\]: why so the european players don't have any chance at all?:)
Gresil [-\]: and i would like a pony
lkay: scruge, because we are too week?
]
;B[hn]C[lkay: *weak
]
;W[hp]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Ilya won against Kim Eunkuk in 2nd round
just9x9 [-\]: wow
]
;B[mi]C[just9x9 [-\]: thats quite something
freddygo [5k\]: is this a final game?
sameasyou [2d\]: Ilya is quite a strong 8d on oro...more than 33600 points
just9x9 [-\]: final yes freddy
]
;W[jl]C[just9x9 [-\]: w is undefeated, b has lost one
sameasyou [2d\]: who beat Ilya?
Onmyoji [2d\]: rusty sword
just9x9 [-\]: oh chi min if i recall right
]
;B[im]C[freddygo [5k\]: black top and right sides are gigantic
sameasyou [2d\]: that means that even if b wins this game w will probably win the weekend tournament
silver2k4 [5d\]: unlike usgo, here are non-asian 7d's
]
;W[ln]C[juststupid [1k\]: which place is oh chi min?
just9x9 [-\]: l4 here?
]
;B[lq]
;W[lr]
;B[kp]C[Novalys [2k\]: oh ilya playing i didn't know
]
;W[jp]
;B[ko]C[Potetos [5k\]: why not m5
]
;W[il]C[IGoofy [1d\]: didnt wanted to give w free shot at l6
]
;B[fn]C[JoostC [3d\]: Black can use an eye
]
;W[hl]C[iancho [1d\]: ceding h8 seems...questionable to me
iancho [1d\]: w becomes quite thick
iancho [1d\]: and b has some bad aji around h6
]
;B[fl]C[JoostC [3d\]: How to respond on black G5 
]
;W[fp]
;B[dn]
;W[od]C[iancho [1d\]: w switches to top right?
]
;B[pf]
;W[qc]
;B[rc]
;W[pc]
;B[mc]
;W[of]
;B[pg]
;W[md]
;B[nc]
;W[ld]
;B[lc]C[Novalys [2k\]: s18  very big move x
]
;W[rd]C[JoostC [3d\]: Black q18/
]
;B[re]
;W[qe]
;B[sd]
;W[pe]
;B[rf]C[Draak [1d\]: l16?
]
;W[kd]
;B[jd]
;W[je]
;B[ie]
;W[jf]
;B[if]
;W[jg]
;B[lf]C[Ryoji [1k\]: where is an updated wall list?
Draak [1d\]: there is none
climbtrees [6k\]: below the ceiling?
holycarp [-\]: m13 ?
Kantid [4k\]: n14 
holycarp [-\]: i mean n13 captures
holycarp [-\]: m
gunman [3d\]: m12
]
;W[mg]
;B[lk]C[deft [3d\]: N13 is not clean capture
deft [3d\]: this fight favours B
]
;W[mj]C[Kantid [4k\]: so.. any idea why W chosen this move?
deft [3d\]: well, it protects the L15 cut
]
;B[lj]
;W[li]C[Novalys [2k\]: b attacking from everywhere
]
;B[nj]C[JoostC [3d\]: Black threatens M8
Youssev [5d\]: hard time for w
deft [3d\]: Ilya is a mighty fighter...
abc123d: w unwell
]
;W[mk]
;B[ll]C[Pwnage [1d\]: resign
seraphin [11k\]: would 011 save w ?
deft [3d\]: no
]
;W[mm]C[abc123d: maybe
Novalys [2k\]: complicated 
deft [3d\]: after N7 now O11 is a real threat since W extended his liberties
Novalys [2k\]: black to play and prevent headache, find the tesuji
]
;B[lh]
;W[ki]
;B[mh]C[deft [3d\]: B just continues to threaten both groups
deft [3d\]: W has to prevent L7 now
deft [3d\]: so B gets to attack the other group
]
;W[kl]C[Novalys [2k\]: m13
z354xte [1d\]: L12
]
;B[kh]C[JoostC [3d\]: Why not white k7?
deft [3d\]: M13 would be bad shape
thekar [8k\]: because l8 also prevents a jump
Novalys [2k\]: removes libs joostc
thekar [8k\]: b could ahve dont k9
deft [3d\]: if W K7 then B has many ways to use the K11 cut
JoostC [3d\]: White k7 threatens G6
deft [3d\]: removing a liberty is imperative
Novalys [2k\]: sure
Novalys [2k\]: too many aji otherwise
abc123d: even now the libs are tricky
Novalys [2k\]: shape and liberty are crazy matters in tight fight
deft [3d\]: if W played K7 then G5 is a makeshift defense
]
;W[ig]C[deft [3d\]: bad shape, but W will have bigger problems
globax [4d\]: n14?
thekar [8k\]: k10 now?
]
;B[hg]C[thekar [8k\]: no
deft [3d\]: N14 is good, but B can force from the outside first
ThiGar [8k\]: w to connect both grps, but b gets pts on the west side also
Novalys [2k\]: L17 has aji
]
;W[hh]C[Novalys [2k\]: allows hane ^^
just9x9 [-\]: praise l17
Draak [1d\]: k12 k10?
just9x9 [-\]: b must prevent the cutting sequence starting ewith h14 now somehow
ThiGar [8k\]: J16?
]
;B[jh]
;W[kj]C[just9x9 [-\]: maybe l17 directly? then o16 becomes threatening
]
;B[gg]
;W[ih]
;B[kf]C[MChow [6k\]: b should prevent e16 cut 
Novalys [2k\]: E16 doesn't matter at all
Novalys [2k\]: For the moment
]
;W[ke]
;B[nd]C[MChow [6k\]: yeah, for 'the moment'
deft [3d\]: B just grabs the profit
Novalys [2k\]: mchow, you cannot afford to defend an unimportant point when you are attacking a group
Novalys [2k\]: what happens here is ten times more important than E16
deft [3d\]: next W should prevent C3
Novalys [2k\]: As long as black attacks, w is playing dame
]
;W[kc]
;B[kb]
;W[id]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: what's hapenning to white?? 
just9x9 [-\]: wow
]
;B[ic]
;W[hd]C[lkay: cassis0, sying?
]
;B[ge]C[lkay: *dying
deft [3d\]: W became a bit desperate?
Novalys [2k\]: here's the aji :p
]
;W[gh]C[lkay: aji my S :)
]
;B[fg]
;W[dl]C[deft [3d\]: C9? ;-)
deft [3d\]: looks very stylish, but does it work?
Novalys [2k\]: G7 works now
climbtrees [6k\]: symmetrical
lkay: id play e8
deft [3d\]: E8 looks natural
]
;B[cp]C[freddygo [5k\]: if p16 is cut off from white's group, then maybe black is winning
]
;W[cq]C[deft [3d\]: P16 _is_ cut off
JoostC [3d\]: White must kill some of the black group or lose
lkay: b needs one eye in sente then wins the game
deft [3d\]: cutting off N5 might not be ebough
]
;B[co]
;W[bq]
;B[dq]
;W[eq]C[jantje [1d\]: I guess C8 + crosscut will be quite enough for B
JoostC [3d\]: Black d9?
Novalys [2k\]: E8 now
lkay: how much time do they have left?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: white 0:32, black 0:25
ygz5001 [8k\]: where're these players from?
]
;B[cl]
;W[ck]C[lkay: korea and russia
ygz5001 [8k\]: thanks
]
;B[cm]
;W[dk]
;B[go]C[ygz5001 [8k\]: if russia P strong? i know korea is very strong
]
;W[gp]
;B[gl]C[Draak [1d\]: well russia is winning it seems
holycarp [-\]: russia have some talented amateurs
]
;W[em]C[lkay: 7d ama, his sister is a pro. he is definitely strong as you see :)
]
;B[en]
;W[fh]C[ygz5001 [8k\]: how old is he?
]
;B[do]
;W[dr]C[IGoofy [1d\]: 53
Novalys [2k\]: is D5 asking for resign or what ?
Draak [1d\]: i would play m5 already..
]
;B[bn]C[Trumelunki [4d\]: b9 I think
]
;W[eg]C[iancho [1d\]: Maybe k11 is sente form some tricks in the corner starting with o15
iancho [1d\]: for*
]
;B[fd]
;W[lb]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: b wins big 
Cassis0 [5d\]: I wonder how w will trick him
kiusasori [2d\]: pauvre ilja, il a tout paumé au tournoi principal
holycarp [-\]: not big
mccrusty [2k\]: so now Ilya is rooting hard for Cpop
WAMozart [6d\]: u a
timewarp [4k\]: Is the current wallist of the weekend tournament somewhere available at the web?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: no
timewarp [4k\]: :-(
kiusasori [2d\]: o15 ?
iancho [1d\]: More sloppy organising
kimlongVN [3k?\]: k18\]
iancho [1d\]: very easy ti write a routine to create a web page from the results PC
taoyan [2k\]: just a side tournement
]
;B[jb]C[Youssev [5d\]: seems that w will live
Krokadel [3k\]: just need to someone make cuplle fotos of the wallist and put him on the page 
Youssev [5d\]: or connect
]
;W[ne]
;B[me]
;W[mf]
;B[le]
;W[og]C[AntiAdmin [1d?\]: Cassis : Trick enroute :)
iancho [1d\]: Danger for b here
CX1000: se puede ver en video
CX1000: esta partida?
Onmyoji [2d\]: KILL KILL KILL
sameasyou [2d\]: w alive...amazing
superdupon [2d\]: 012
iancho [1d\]: has ane eye in sente in the corner
iancho [1d\]: an*
zen [1k\]: b can p18, but it looks dangerous :)
JoostC [3d\]: Black p18?
Trumelunki [4d\]: the eye in corner is gote
Novalys [2k\]: black better read it out before P18 :)
iancho [1d\]: o11 is danger
]
;B[ob]C[zen [1k\]: teehee
superdupon [2d\]: :-o
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: white 0:27, black 0:08
mojo [5k?\]: time?
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: yes
Draak [1d\]: ...
]
;W[ni]C[Draak [1d\]: lol
]
;B[nh]
;W[oi]
;B[oh]
;W[pi]C[AntiAdmin [1d?\]: rock'n'roll !
]
;B[ph]
;W[pk]
;B[qi]
;W[pj]C[iancho [1d\]: yes, there weas something there alright
freddygo [5k\]: white has a chance now?
zen [1k\]: s9
Novalys [2k\]: W has S6
sameasyou [2d\]: w wins now
superdupon [2d\]: no
]
;B[rk]C[Youssev [5d\]: not clear
WVoron [4d\]: c18
Novalys [2k\]: S6
lepeksiy [-\]: it's close now
JoostC [3d\]: black is better
Arhiman [3k\]: o15 dead, right ?
]
;W[bl]C[Youssev [5d\]: c18 was bigger no ?
]
;B[bm]
;W[bk]
;B[bp]C[Novalys [2k\]: K11 big
abc123d: w ahead slightly?
JoostC [3d\]: If white gets C18?
Novalys [2k\]: R4 ?
abc123d: k11 almost nothing
]
;W[cb]C[crius [15k?\]: ^^
]
;B[eb]
;W[ef]C[freddygo [5k\]: s10 or s6?
Starwyvern [17k?\]: k11 j10? or k10
abc123d: k11 and tenuki :)
ghjkhgkjh: is this the final game ?
Starwyvern [17k?\]: ya but then k10 h10...not a lot of points to be had for white there?
iancho [1d\]: s10 and s8?
AntiAdmin [1d?\]: 2 stones @ D15 threatened
]
;B[rq]C[mi1 [1k\]: where i can see weekend tournament wall List ?
Novalys [2k\]: very big
Onmyoji [2d\]: w win
]
;W[ee]C[iancho [1d\]: I wonder at what point w read the sequence to capture 3 stonrs
]
;B[gd]C[abc123d: nice move.. let's see if black counted well :)
Novalys [2k\]: h10 are looks dame
]
;W[rl]C[Arhiman [3k\]: g16 at f15 ?
Leibnix [8k\]: just after you did, iancho :)
iancho [1d\]: here we go again
iancho [1d\]: bit frustrating for b
]
;B[rm]C[crius [15k?\]: I want to be a pro
abc123d: s3 really just in time
Haven [9k?\]: lulz
]
;W[rj]
;B[ql]C[dutch2dan [?\]: pro wrestler, crius?
iancho [1d\]: Well the top right alwys looked a bit fishy to me
]
;W[ri]C[sameasyou [2d\]: s11 and game over
]
;B[rh]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: b tricked 
crius [15k?\]: yes
iancho [1d\]: f10?
sameasyou [2d\]: yes...too bad
]
;W[ed]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: he always kill big groups to koreans 
Cassis0 [5d\]: then he get tricked very badly
freddygo [5k\]: how
]
;B[fj]C[abc123d: tricked where?
holycarp [-\]: always ? hmm
kiusasori [2d\]: every where now
abc123d: orly
Haven [9k?\]: yarly
avis [2k\]: b has the lead
Oleg2711 [1k\]: he just not playing at their level
avis [2k\]: he will win
]
;W[da]C[iancho [1d\]: looks close still to me
holycarp [-\]: this the final?
abc123d: hmm f11 sente?
thekar [8k\]: d11?
freddygo [5k\]: i thought e11 is bigger move than d19
sator [2k\]: this is sente
]
;B[ei]C[holycarp [-\]: e11 e10 
abc123d: hardly
kiusasori [2d\]: Oo
]
;W[di]
;B[eh]
;W[dh]C[kiusasori [2d\]: k11 ?
Draak [1d\]: k10
etienne92 [17k\]: K11 i think now
Sheeple [3k\]: k11 h10
kiusasori [2d\]: k11 h10 j10 threatening l9
avis [2k\]: k11 too straightforward
crius [15k?\]: how old are you?
]
;B[jj]C[avis [2k\]: there we go, on witht he fancy stuff
kiusasori [2d\]: h10 look vital now
iancho [1d\]: Nice move
avis [2k\]: with the*
]
;W[kk]C[thekar [8k\]: its getting interesting
abc123d: d19 mistake for sure
danigabi [6d\]: d19 really huge though
crius [15k?\]: (・ω・)
holycarp [-\]: yose killing stage
]
;B[ji]
;W[hj]C[lkay: b+39.5 :)
thekar [8k\]: no
abc123d: well, nice reduction in sente in any case
AntiAdmin [1d?\]: not mistake, why play dame, D19 is bigger
mi1 [1k\]: ko ?
crius [15k?\]: b is dead?
mi1 [1k\]: or no :(
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: black in BY
]
;B[gb]C[Novalys [2k\]: Why not J11 instead k11 ?*
crius [15k?\]: w is dead? 
kiusasori [2d\]: both alive
]
;W[jm]C[silver2k4 [5d\]: j11 g10 
kiusasori [2d\]: q15 dead
crius [15k?\]: right
]
;B[fm]C[kiusasori [2d\]: that's all :)
]
;W[ap]C[Novalys [2k\]: oh cool g10 :)
]
;B[ao]C[Novalys [2k\]: Tanks
]
;W[aq]C[crius [15k?\]: w of right is dead?
iancho [1d\]: w seems just ahead
bigJ [6k\]: its so long,  q15 getting maggots
MChow [6k\]: b winning by few points
]
;B[qh]
;W[qj]
;B[ea]C[holycarp [-\]: use the se
]
;W[ca]C[bigJ [6k\]: its pretty close
Draak [1d\]: still incredible how w managed to turn the tables:)
Novalys [2k\]: indeed
holycarp [-\]: w lost
]
;B[gj]
;W[ej]
;B[fi]C[bigJ [6k\]: w has left and bottom plus funny shape in center
]
;W[kg]
;B[lg]
;W[ij]
;B[ek]
;W[dj]
;B[al]C[IGoofy [1d\]: b should not resign now
mi1 [1k\]: b + 2
]
;W[ak]C[lkay: igoofy, i think he knows that already :)
]
;B[am]C[Kokono [21k\]: w go ahead
R [1k\]: это партия из сеанса одновременной игры или турнирная партия?
Mikki62 [2k\]: ?
holycarp [-\]: b+1.5
mi1 [1k\]: турнирная
]
;W[qn]
;B[rn]
;W[qo]
;B[qp]C[ngarry [-\]: цуулутв 
]
;W[qk]
;B[sl]C[ngarry [-\]: weekend
]
;W[ff]
;B[gf]
;W[qs]
;B[rs]
;W[ps]C[mi1 [1k\]: правда не основного турнира
]
;B[eo]C[R [1k\]: i see
]
;W[lo]
;B[lp]
;W[ep]C[Altair [8k\]: p6
]
;B[el]C[Oleg2711 [1k\]: mi1, u osnovnogo turnira svoya pravda? :-)))
thekar [8k\]: what for?
]
;W[dm]C[thekar [8k\]: p6 doesnt give b nothing
]
;B[kn]
;W[hm]
;B[in]C[Starwyvern [17k?\]: p6 o7
]
;W[gk]C[thekar [8k\]: hmmm
]
;B[sh]C[Starwyvern [17k?\]: 1 pt gote?
]
;W[on]
;B[nn]
;W[nm]
;B[fk]
;W[hk]
;B[ii]
;W[hi]
;B[jk]
;W[lm]
;B[gn]
;W[fo]
;B[sk]TW[aa][ba][ab][bb][ac][bc][ad][bd][dd][ae][be][de][af][bf][df][ag][bg][cg][dg][ah][bh][ch][ai][bi][ci][aj][bj][cj][lj][nj][oj][lk][ok][ll][nl][dq][fq][gq][hq][iq][jq][ar][br][cr][er][fr][gr][hr][ir][jr][kr][as][bs][cs][ds][es][fs][gs][hs][is][js][ks][ls][ms][ns][os]TB[fa][ga][ha][ia][ja][ka][la][ma][na][oa][pa][qa][ra][sa][fb][hb][ib][lb][mb][nb][pb][qb][rb][sb][fc][gc][hc][oc][pc][qc][sc][hd][id][od][pd][rd][he][ne][oe][pe][qe][se][hf][mf][nf][of][qf][sf][mg][ng][og][qg][rg][sg][rl][sm][an][cn][sn][bo][so][rp][sp][qq][sq][rr][sr][ss]C[EuroGoTV3 [-\]: dame
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: they are counting
IGoofy [1d\]: mühle
bigJ [6k\]: nbo damm
gogonuts [4d\]: se got it right?
kiusasori [2d\]: b+1.5
AntiAdmin [1d?\]: would have been jigo with the main tournament rules :D
gogonuts [4d\]: lol
superdupon [2d\]: 7.5 komi?
tahion [3d?\]: is komi 6.5 or 7.5?
abc123d: what is the difference in rules, antiadmin?
AntiAdmin [1d?\]: main tournament is komi 8
gogonuts [4d\]: not possible, actually
Starwyvern [17k?\]: says 6.5 on the options
bigJ [6k\]: isn't komi 8, b winning ties?
AntiAdmin [1d?\]: isn't it ?
gogonuts [4d\]: main is 7.5
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: B+1,5
AntiAdmin [1d?\]: ha ok
kiusasori [2d\]: 7.5
gdghgjd [1d\]: yay
abc123d: wow
gogonuts [4d\]: the equivalant of 7.5
Mikki62 [2k\]: yeah
abc123d: impressive
AntiAdmin [1d?\]: so 7.5
thekar [8k\]: nice game
Draak [1d\]: thx eurogotv
abc123d: wth, a korean lost?!!
Onmyoji [2d\]: yay roln
superdupon [2d\]: congrats to ilya
Leibnix [8k\]: SE always right
gogonuts [4d\]: b got a good start in this game
gogonuts [4d\]: that O4 is suspect to me
])