(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[15/300 Canadian] GN[Iasi Cup 2010 board 1 round 4]PW[Artem Kachanovskyj]PB[Pal Balogh]WR[7d]BR[6d]DT[2010-08-28]RO[4]PC[Iasi, Romania]US[HW9x9]C[playgo [-\]: let the game begin Dar00 [2d\]: artem won dfdff: what? aishwarya [2d\]: artem!!!!!!!! Dar00 [2d\]: yes w+ resignation cherisse [1k\]: hmm pal not a kgs player? cherisse [1k\]: ok... go artem!!! dfdff: isn't the game disputting now? shikashogi [9k\]: i wonder if pal will let his time go down like his game earlier ] ;B[pd]C[eyeless [1d\]: so btw. what was kind of sports does artem do? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 playgo [-\]: se already in favour of black ] ;W[dc]C[cherisse [1k\]: but they can do anything with their time. what do you mean? A1R [4k\]: artem 7d? ] ;B[pq]C[SpiritWolf [8k?\]: artem w00t playgo [-\]: nice opening SpiritWolf [8k?\]: i wonder if he uses 4-5 this time SpiritWolf [8k?\]: would be an interesting game :) ] ;W[eq] ;B[de]C[SpiritWolf [8k?\]: o.o 3-5... justwhite [-\]: artem will pwn pal to the ground ] ;W[cp]C[SpiritWolf [8k?\]: ah no taisha out of 3-5 XD playgo [-\]: solid start cherisse [1k\]: not so easy, this is pal who beat kang you're talking about s8 [3d\]: artem was just unlucky against kang playgo [-\]: maybe shimari in the lower right now evanj [2d\]: nah, upper left cherisse [1k\]: oh, i mixed him with ali lol SpiritWolf [8k?\]: artem can do it :) SpiritWolf [8k?\]: hes young and strong :D eyeless [1d\]: artem looking strong today eyeless [1d\]: he beated kornel real bad SpiritWolf [8k?\]: hey where did 8k come from o.O.. SpiritWolf [8k?\]: cornel resigned SpiritWolf [8k?\]: artem just needs to keep his concentration and hell do fine :) cherisse [1k\]: i am convinced he's very focused ickypoo [2k\]: very focus SpiritWolf [8k?\]: im sure he is. he was psyched for the tourny ^^ after he finished egc XD cherisse [1k\]: his expression doesn't move an inch EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 tonyp [2d\]: after C4 w would like to extend from that shape to C10 oapj [1k\]: and tournament web? SpiritWolf [8k?\]: well hes got a rock solid composure :) EuroGoTV1 [-\]: http://clubuldegoiasi.ro tonyp [2d\]: could B play around C10 pre-emptively? oapj [1k\]: thanks HandA [1k\]: Artem won? cherisse [1k\]: vs cornel, yes evanj [2d\]: b is the slowest amateur player in the world evanj [2d\]: it's a statistical fact eyeless [1d\]: what are the time controls? dutch2dan [2d?\]: b??? w isn't really fast either EuroGoTV2 [-\]: For eyeless: Artem plays football dutch2dan [2d?\]: American? eyeless [1d\]: regular football right? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: white is fast, never saw somebody totally destroy Cornel in so little time princezuko [6k?\]: i lol at the advertisements leachy [5k\]: go artem! eyeless [1d\]: the one with the ball you kick around agugglez [3k\]: artem was promoted to 7d? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game and betting on the next move on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 fountain [2k\]: black is also the most lusty guy, its a statistical fact princezuko [6k?\]: artem is my paragon *eye gleams evanj [2d\]: ... princezuko [6k?\]: so much time on the 7th move though kostuek [-\]: thunking about resign usagi [1d\]: Is cornel going to play again? Kachnak [1d\]: are there results updated anywhere? pokerGO: he's half way through the game in his head Ksatriya33 [15k\]: yeah dont they know we have 245 moves to go? AhSayuni [4d\]: B4! AhSayuni [4d\]: maybe just c17 AhSayuni [4d\]: but I guess Artem would extend cherisse [1k\]: poor cornel been losing, also lost game vs poppy evanj [2d\]: definitlely evanj [2d\]: focus on the board, pal Eisblut [2d\]: c 9 evanj [2d\]: maybe he doesn't realize it's his turn princezuko [6k?\]: lol Eisblut [2d\]: xD Fukurokuji [2k\]: pal knows which will be the next move but he doesnt play Ksatriya33 [15k\]: so much thought for an almost naked board... Fukurokuji [2k\]: he wants artem to feel waiting :) princezuko [6k?\]: lol evanj [2d\]: is pal in byo yomi yet? princezuko [6k?\]: haha Ksatriya33 [15k\]: lolz Fukurokuji [2k\]: i dont think so Fukurokuji [2k\]: :) evanj [2d\]: she's too young for you artem princezuko [6k?\]: hahaha usagi [1d\]: She's distracting princezuko [6k?\]: i was thinking the same XD evanj [2d\]: oh wait i thought he was about to pick up a stone EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game and betting on the next move on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 dutch2dan [2d?\]: betting like before or in byo-yomi? playgo [-\]: Pal's thoughts must be almost about the yose by now LeT63 [-\]: i dont think they are playing evanj [2d\]: artem fell asleep cherisse [1k\]: wow i think i can do things and wont miss much Fukurokuji [2k\]: next move is k17 Vador [?\]: Yes they are Vador [?\]: See Livestream EuroGoTV1 [-\]: before, no use betting during byoyomi because bet has to be made 30 seconds befgore move is made dutch2dan [2d?\]: I meant if the next move will be before or in byo-yomi dutch2dan [2d?\]: :D EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol princezuko [6k?\]: at this pace there sould be lots of bets XP Vador [?\]: Maybe it's a strategy by B evanj [2d\]: i'm not even willing to bet that b will play a next move at this point princezuko [6k?\]: lol Ksatriya33 [15k\]: i'd bet b doesnt eyeless [1d\]: b could resign now appleseeds [3k\]: this is getting silly usagi [1d\]: c9. LeT63 [-\]: maybe it is more a ceremony Ksatriya33 [15k\]: 'quickest' resign ever usagi [1d\]: c9 is perfectly acceptable no? princezuko [6k?\]: waste time by playing acrazy move that makes artem waste his time then fight it in byoyomi! princezuko [6k?\]: XD Vador [?\]: Innerve your opp by playing slooooooowwwwwwwwwwwww Vador [?\]: It must be over 15 minutes now ? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: over 20 playgo [-\]: wasn't there a pro game once that was played in 2 days and the first day only about 9 stones were placed on the board ? Ksatriya33 [15k\]: like watching paint dry Vador [?\]: At least, he'll know all the incoming josekis from his next move ! evanj [2d\]: ali's game is on move 73 :D EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol ] ;B[po]C[princezuko [6k?\]: omg he played!!! princezuko [6k?\]: XD evanj [2d\]: WOW shikashogi [9k\]: finally evanj [2d\]: tesuji LeT63 [-\]: great playgo [-\]: well, at least he played the strongest move princezuko [6k?\]: lol princezuko [6k?\]: and now he is gone XD princezuko [6k?\]: black hath escaped princezuko [6k?\]: ! LeT63 [-\]: exhausted princezuko [6k?\]: lol i bet princezuko [6k?\]: XD princezuko [6k?\]: artem has that effect on people evanj [2d\]: he only plays 4 moves a day, it's in his contract princezuko [6k?\]: haha Ksatriya33 [15k\]: lol blotter [23k?\]: playgo you are right they had 11+11 hours playgo [-\]: hopefully white will take the same amount of time for his next move, even if it was only to the kibitzers to make smart comments iLMM [-\]: when Pal was younger he was playing faster ] ;W[ce]C[Ksatriya33 [15k\]: ha ha ha princezuko [6k?\]: lol EuroGoTV1 [-\]: which camera has the best picture? EuroGoTV1 or 2 or EuroGoTV-Ro? Ksatriya33 [15k\]: this is why i love twoeye NorthWind [5k\]: he was born old playgo [-\]: I am afraid to ask, but how old is Pal now ? evanj [2d\]: Ro is the best evanj [2d\]: TV2 is the worst evanj [2d\]: this one is good too EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Ro better then this one? Ksatriya33 [15k\]: bout as old as we will be by the time this ends leachy [5k\]: if only pal played a bit quicker, he would be only 25 years old by now AhSayuni [4d\]: avalanche!! princezuko [6k?\]: lol evanj [2d\]: hm, maybe not evanj [2d\]: they are about the same Rakuen [7d\]: avalanche mm evanj [2d\]: TV2 is definitely worse, blurry and washed-out color princezuko [6k?\]: lol fbp [6d\]: artem is hoping for d16 evanj [2d\]: well, we'll find out in half an hour Rakuen [7d\]: why hoping? princezuko [6k?\]: hahahaha EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thx evanj Ksatriya33 [15k\]: if they dont move in 5 min, just wait longer... evanj [2d\]: avalanche? tsuke-hiki? avalanche? tsuke-hiki? NorthWind [5k\]: doesn't seem the same with no Koreans Ksatriya33 [15k\]: wow... Rakuen [7d\]: tsuke hiki is for sure possible playgo [-\]: Is there an easy way to get VIP points ? Rakuen [7d\]: but avalanche, i dont know if its usual in this shape ,i have to think a little Rakuen [7d\]: playgo: yes, paying evanj [2d\]: i'd play c14, but then maybe if i thought about it for 20 minutes i'd change my mind EuroGoTV1 [-\]: next week u can buy VIP-points Ksatriya33 [15k\]: ha ha ha EuroGoTV1 [-\]: now you can only get them by tagging photos playgo [-\]: hm, is there also a cheap way ? evanj [2d\]: hacking leachy [5k\]: what does hiki mean? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hacking or tagging evanj [2d\]: pull back fbp [6d\]: what can you do with the vip-points? evanj [2d\]: leachy: tsuke-hiki is c14-c16 joseki Ksatriya33 [15k\]: but not out leachy [5k\]: ah thx evanj ;) evanj [2d\]: np playgo [-\]: ah, do personal photo's with no relation to go also count ? Kachnak [1d\]: i guess paru baru will come up with a new move... EuroGoTV1 [-\]: from next week you can play with Catalin Taranu (1 move/day) for 300 points/month Vador [?\]: He tries to remember what is the avalanche sequence ;-) EuroGoTV1 [-\]: also the e-store will open soon EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so u can buy books etc EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game and betting on the next move on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 playgo [-\]: nice, how about a prize, maybe 1000 vip points for a tournament winner ? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and u can use them to bet^^ Ksatriya33 [15k\]: ima take a nap, wake me when we hit move 10 NorthWind [5k\]: I would wander off if I was Artem .. no use waiting for B and his mind-games playgo [-\]: no chance to get vip points for free ? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, tag photos evanj [2d\]: why are you such a cheapskate EuroGoTV1 [-\]: in the photo menu Ksatriya33 [15k\]: recesion? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 1 tag 1 VIP-point playgo [-\]: got not that much money to spend... EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so tag 10 photos a day and you can play with Catalin Taranu 5p for free! evanj [2d\]: do the tags have to be accurate? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes Ksatriya33 [15k\]: ha ha ha evanj [2d\]: oh :( EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i will take allyour points away i i spot u cheating playgo [-\]: what are the looking at, certainly not the board Desperis [3k\]: how much time did Pal already used? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 33 minutes Ksatriya33 [15k\]: how much does he have left? Hangovers [3k\]: is Pal using tirednesstesuji EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 27 evanj [2d\]: so he will be in byoyomi by move 15 Djaian [-\]: Pal is waiting for byoyomi Ksatriya33 [15k\]: indeed evanj [2d\]: i understand that, i'm most productive when i have a deadline too A1R [4k\]: why is he using so much time? evanj [2d\]: why not Ksatriya33 [15k\]: how long's the byoyomi 10 min? he'll never make it playgo [-\]: he wants to use his creativety in the opening, just as most strong players do mooooo [6k\]: ?? IS THIS GME STILL GOING ON evanj [2d\]: it's not like he has anything better to do evanj [2d\]: yes, moooooo evanj [2d\]: there's a video to prove it Djaian [-\]: he thinks that makes him cool to be known as "the guy who uses so much time for nothing" A1R [4k\]: but not with just 60min eyeless [1d\]: pal looks somehow apprehensive. wonder why pseudocalm [18k\]: you guys rly think he is doing this because he's thinking about the game? mooooo [6k\]: lol b realy the slowest pseudocalm [18k\]: lol pseudocalm [18k\]: he is trying to be annoying pseudocalm [18k\]: there is no question if you are watching the video stream EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game and betting on the next move on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 leachy [5k\]: if he uses too much creativity there won't be a game left bartosz [-\]: where are the results? evanj [2d\]: i don't know, pseudo princezuko [6k?\]: yo my grandmother just saw the video mooooo [6k\]: hes is super strong he things all his moves now princezuko [6k?\]: she thinks black is strange for wasting so much time EuroGoTV1 [-\]: http://clubuldegoiasi.ro mooooo [6k\]: he already calculated the whole game princezuko [6k?\]: i know princezuko [6k?\]: XD pseudocalm [18k\]: 20 minutes on move 7? 20 more minutes on move 9? Think about this. How many times in his life has he seen that opening from white? pseudocalm [18k\]: how much is there possibly to think about pseudocalm [18k\]: its a standard opening from2ch [4k\]: it'll be Nadare? bartosz [-\]: thanks eurogo Djaian [-\]: I just hope black will be crushed by Artem. Just that he gets the lesson that his annoying style is bad evanj [2d\]: man there's so much anti-balogh rhetoric LeT63 [-\]: finally left .-) pseudocalm [18k\]: he'll check to see if he left the room and if he did he will play Ksatriya33 [15k\]: i'll be burning him in effigy in my back yard before he moves next bartosz [-\]: how long has artem been 7d? Kratzdrink [1d\]: first tournament as 7d playgo [-\]: at least a few hours evanj [2d\]: by the end of this game he'll be 8d pebarefoot [-\]: Pal is trying to lull Artem to sleep, then he'll srike Vador [?\]: I thought amateur ankings stopped at 6d ? Ksatriya33 [15k\]: ha ha ha leachy [5k\]: omg pal suddenly noticed something..... EuroGoTV3 [-\]: for the results of the previous rounds check out www.clubuldegoiasi.ro evanj [2d\]: wait... there are black and white things on this plank of wood Djaian [-\]: Pal is a player with bad attitude. Do not follow his example. Follow Artem's example, who is top-class in his attitude Ksatriya33 [15k\]: lol evanj [2d\]: why do you say that djaian eyeless [1d\]: pal would look good in a turtle kigurumi body Lavv [4d\]: lol balogh Ksatriya33 [15k\]: wow princezuko [6k?\]: artem-omg jusst play already XP evanj [2d\]: it's not his turn evanj [2d\]: though that really _would_ be taking the bull by the horns iisan [-\]: quoting leachy [5k\]: pal would look good with a less emaciated look evanj [2d\]: if he just started playing moves Lavv [4d\]: i would like to know what balogh is thinking already Djaian [-\]: probably nothing eyeless [1d\]: ok so he can go c14 c16 b4 or nadare ? evanj [2d\]: not c16 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: did you all bet on the next move? Lavv [4d\]: maybe he is reviewing all the josekis he knows in his head Ksatriya33 [15k\]: he's already planing out his next game evanj [2d\]: c14 c16 b4 seems popular these days Djaian [-\]: Pal is probably just waiting to annoy his opponent A1R [4k\]: d16 playgo [-\]: the battle so far is mainly a psychological one evanj [2d\]: you keep saying those things djaian, it's not reflecting well on you eyeless [1d\]: is there any other popular idea? pseudocalm [18k\]: he's absolutely positively tryingt o annoy his opponant eyeless [1d\]: maybe pal doesnt like popular ideas pseudocalm [18k\]: anyone see the last game he played? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: betting by click on the betting board besides the live stream pseudocalm [18k\]: i was the same as this ] ;B[cf]C[Ksatriya33 [15k\]: i think he played with moses EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hahahahahahaha Tabemasu [6d\]: Ah dutch2dan [2d?\]: a move! Tabemasu [6d\]: c14 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: all the bettors were wrong evanj [2d\]: i should have bet :( Tabemasu [6d\]: A difficult move to find evanj [2d\]: i was going to bet that pseudocalm [18k\]: the last game that was broadcast he had 12 minutes left on move 21 ] ;W[cd]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hahahahahahaha princezuko [6k?\]: and now to wait smore Ksatriya33 [15k\]: you did call the evan Lavv [4d\]: i'd not have thought about this pseudocalm [18k\]: he never thought about it either eyeless [1d\]: b4 now Lavv [4d\]: balogh magic AhSayuni [4d\]: R10? pseudocalm [18k\]: he just made a dumb look on his face for 30 minutes playgo [-\]: well, I had the right move, just no vip point eyeless [1d\]: or not. he can do ther moves ] ;B[gf]C[Lavv [4d\]: aha, thats original at least iisan [-\]: indeed Ksatriya33 [15k\]: wow, he's in gear now... that was less than a min evanj [2d\]: i couldn't bet anyway, i have no points to bet with from2ch [4k\]: cosmic eyeless [1d\]: yeah b is original. thats good neverlove [1d\]: this game start one hour ago ??? pseudocalm [18k\]: watch what he does with the water when he comes back leachy [5k\]: what is the meaning of that move? LeT63 [-\]: worth of 30 minutes evanj [2d\]: standardish move evanj [2d\]: light leachy [5k\]: i think it's pseudocalm [18k\]: he will take a sip of water, put it on the table, and 2-3 seconds later pick it up and take another sip, he'll waste the rest of his clock doing this dutch2dan [2d?\]: l3? Djaian [-\]: asking first with b4 would be more standard however deerpark: protects the cut evanj [2d\]: pal went to take a nap after playing so quickly leachy [5k\]: "i used 30 mins i'd better do something special" playgo [-\]: never really understood g14 , but it certainly is interesting A1R [4k\]: fast move neverlove [1d\]: if w cut b d13 and e13 build a wall Djaian [-\]: very normal move ] ;W[gc]C[leachy [5k\]: yeah pal has done enough work for one day A1R [4k\]: well for fast developement playgo [-\]: very normal yes, but few grasp it's meaning Lavv [4d\]: i use it in very special case but not in this case Pessi [3d\]: what is link for the result page of this tournament? ] ;B[qj]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: http://clubuldegoiasi.ro Ksatriya33 [15k\]: pal is a racing snail eyeless [1d\]: lol i didnt notice q5 was at s3. how did q5 get moved to s3? LeT63 [-\]: blitz ] ;W[kq] ;B[dl]C[Pessi [3d\]: thanks globax [3d\]: good b fuseki, w is low, b leading ] ;W[nc] ;B[pf]C[YangXu [3d\]: i love b's opening ] ;W[kd]C[playgo [-\]: this is the kind of game you want to see commented by a pro ] ;B[jp]C[don [2k\]: he's everywhere in just 8 moves Vador [?\]: This change of pace must be highly disturbing ! Cassis0 [5d\]: pro would just say "both are ok" Fukurokuji [2k\]: pal wants moyo :) globax [3d\]: the pro comments say few about first moves Rakuen [7d\]: i didnt know balogh was so center oriented Rakuen [7d\]: at first sight, id pick w globax [3d\]: ^^ playgo [-\]: and at second sight ? Ksatriya33 [15k\]: w again... ] ;W[kp] ;B[jo] ;W[ko] ;B[jn] ;W[ir]C[AhSayuni [4d\]: I'd pick b I think LeT63 [-\]: L6 Ksatriya33 [15k\]: for what jury duity? Lavv [4d\]: balogh often plays influence playgo [-\]: hm, I have no clue who is better here A1R [4k\]: l14? from2ch [4k\]: right side is only moyo Djaian [-\]: both ok I think. Artem is playing solid as usual, so he is probably satisfied with his oppening right now Ksatriya33 [15k\]: not territory yet AhSayuni [4d\]: and what is top? solid?... EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game and betting on the next move on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 A1R [4k\]: betting just for VIP? from2ch [4k\]: g17 is thin? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, for everybody A1R [4k\]: ah ok evanj [2d\]: but you can't bet without points A1R [4k\]: how can i get some? evanj [2d\]: just L6? GoShinobi [-\]: k12 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: by tagging photos in the Photo menu GoShinobi [-\]: k13 sry A1R [4k\]: ok.. ] ;B[hq]C[RyuuGan [1k\]: euro? where can i find a results? leachy [5k\]: ali vs csaba is at move 115 Djaian [-\]: Csaba is known for playing fast Ksatriya33 [15k\]: he countered a knights move, with a knights move... AMAZING! ] ;W[iq] ;B[go] ;W[lm]C[evanj [2d\]: i'd still have preferred L6 Djaian [-\]: L6 for black looked better than H3 ] ;B[mq]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: good move LeT63 [-\]: n4 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: taking points and aiming for the cut at the same time ] ;W[qq]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but Artem was not impressed EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol gfdhff [4k\]: w can connect g2 mooooo [6k\]: i wish we had the sam eheat here ] ;B[qp] ;W[pr]C[mooooo [6k\]: i need 35C°+ to feel comfortable ] ;B[oq]C[evanj [2d\]: are you crazy?! gfdhff [4k\]: are in greenland ? mooooo [6k\]: germany playgo [-\]: s3 makes life later on evanj [2d\]: who are all these kids mooooo [6k\]: they are artems friends xD evanj [2d\]: his love children? eyeless [1d\]: i need under 20c to be comfortable don [2k\]: they are artem's children pseudocalm [18k\]: eurogo how much time left on Pal? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 11 min EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 47 for Artem bartosz [-\]: nice :) evanj [2d\]: i prefer under 10c ] ;W[gq]C[cherisse [1k\]: both these players are undefeated? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, only 2 left Djaian [-\]: so far yes cherisse Ksatriya33 [15k\]: not for long, um... hopefully pebarefoot [-\]: eyeless, it was 25c this morning and will be around 40c this afternoon here :-) ] ;B[jk]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: c13 Djaian [-\]: Eurogo, I am pretty sure other players are undefeated in the tournament (around the low kyus for example) princezuko [6k?\]: lol EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^ Djaian [-\]: 2 undefeated 20k played together during round 3, so one of them is still undefeated. Ksatriya33 [15k\]: tagging game, will watch when over. ] ;W[lk]C[evanj [2d\]: glad to hear it, thanks for keeping us updated Ksatriya33 [15k\]: yw fbp [6d\]: artem considers that black has 0 points :) fbp [6d\]: he plan to invade everything fbp [6d\]: and live in lowerright Djaian [-\]: sounds like a good plan ] ;B[df]C[bartosz [-\]: winning is always the best plan :) LeT63 [-\]: but b not bad, is it? xyzon [1k\]: whats the situation on lower right? alive ? ko? evanj [2d\]: i prefer b here evanj [2d\]: xyz: w can live by playing s3 Fukurokuji [2k\]: b8 Djaian [-\]: if white s3, he can live Djaian [-\]: if black adds a move, he can kill Cassis0 [5d\]: w c10 can live too xyzon [1k\]: thx playgo [-\]: but at this stage it isn't big enough fbp [6d\]: so how will artem invade? Djaian [-\]: living or killing in lower right corner is gote, and is quite small right now. ] ;W[ii]C[princezuko [6k?\]: wow EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game and betting on the next move on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 princezuko [6k?\]: i could never find this move XP playgo [-\]: hm, another wow move EuroGoTV1 [-\]: indeed all the betters were wrong playgo [-\]: lol princezuko [6k?\]: haha EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i am getting rich^^ princezuko [6k?\]: XD evanj [2d\]: nice multifaceted move LeT63 [-\]: this will be interesting princezuko [6k?\]: keep it up eurogo! playgo [-\]: nice Cassis0 [5d\]: still l6 cut... fbp [6d\]: you get 1 point if you bet right? LeT63 [-\]: k11 then cut l6 eyeless [1d\]: how many vip points do you have ? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, you get: ceil(otal bets/winners) Djaian [-\]: what's the point of having vip points? Laman [1d\]: ceil? i though tfloor EuroGoTV1 [-\]: maybe floor yes^^ Laman [1d\]: Djaian: you can bet them fbp [6d\]: so if you are the only one betting you get 0? kostuek [-\]: i have 0 points, hard to bet EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i forgot playgo [-\]: can't you just give away some free points ? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, if you are the only 1 betting you can only get your point back Laman [1d\]: you can get points by tagging photos EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^ fbp [6d\]: wow.. fbp [6d\]: strange system :) EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hahaha evanj [2d\]: so you have to know random european go players by sight to get points EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i cannot lose this way fbp [6d\]: you dont see how many people that bets.. fbp [6d\]: basically this system makes you always lose fbp [6d\]: cool :) EuroGoTV1 [-\]: true, still in beta version kostuek [-\]: like a casino ] ;B[kj]C[evanj [2d\]: :D fbp [6d\]: you should give every member a small amount of points to make the feature popular EuroGoTV1 [-\]: will be improved the coming weeks EuroGoTV1 [-\]: now testing if bank system works 100% Fukurokuji [2k\]: seems to be hard game for artem eyeless [1d\]: so its really important to get tags on your photos? ] ;W[ej]C[Djaian [-\]: so you get points in order to bet them and try to have more points. But can you do something with these points, suppose you get many of them? dutch2dan [2d?\]: write a tag bot :) evanj [2d\]: apparently it's just about the most important thing ever NorthWind [5k\]: take that ! EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it is nice for other applications i am working on ] ;B[cj]C[Laman [1d\]: i cheer for black evanj [2d\]: yes, djaian playgo [-\]: e10 must be another move that gives eurogo a lot of cash princezuko [6k?\]: interesting princezuko [6k?\]: haha EuroGoTV1 [-\]: nobody made a bet in time kostuek [-\]: smells like overplay EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so i didnt win anythingh evanj [2d\]: what does overplay smell like? dutch2dan [2d?\]: ... yet playgo [-\]: ah, but why the 30 second interval, that could be less ? ] ;W[ik]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sometimes i fall asleep^^ cherisse [1k\]: w plan: live inside and kill a b group kostuek [-\]: like desperation ] ;B[jl]C[evanj [2d\]: w will live here easily evanj [2d\]: though at some point L6 will become big EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 30 seconds can change later, had to set a limit when i wrote it ] ;W[el]C[Djaian [-\]: white could consider take time to protect the cut now. Living should not be a problem ] ;B[em] ;W[fl]C[Laman [1d\]: so bet has to be placed 30s before the actual move, right? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes ] ;B[dm]C[playgo [-\]: protecting the cut is just dumb at this stage ] ;W[fh]C[Genghis [1k\]: Overplay smells like coffee if done properly and it smells cigarettes if it isn't done properly globax [3d\]: h17 ] ;B[dh]C[eyeless [1d\]: both coffee and cigarettes contain cadaverine and skatole EuroGoTV1 [-\]: s3 playgo [-\]: white can still invade the right side easyly crxsi: shogi is better d-(-_-)-b Bogin [-\]: not really^^ salatunnus [2d\]: I wouldn't say easily, but sure invasion is possible tinca [-\]: just as B on top ] ;W[il]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game and betting on the next move on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 princezuko [6k?\]: hmmm playgo [-\]: right, the top is not safe either littlebell [2k\]: ha, haha genghis, u have nose as good as doug ] ;B[im] ;W[hm] ;B[gm]C[eyeless [1d\]: big crowd at the table tinca [-\]: somehow B's play with this invasion seems too coward Pidgeot [8k\]: g10 seems ilke a supershape point playgo [-\]: hm, not sure, he gets nice compensation shikashogi [9k\]: did artem just go to drink and stop because pal did Cassis0 [5d\]: this is too easy for w... remsleep [8k\]: why is g10 sente? ] ;W[gl] ;B[hn]C[diemorph [1d\]: overplay smells like victory and tastes like defeat remsleep [8k\]: nice one morph ] ;W[qc] ;B[pc]C[evanj [2d\]: b got very little territory out of this attack ] ;W[pb]C[playgo [-\]: hm, how many got r17 right ? playgo [-\]: none ? ] ;B[qd] ;W[rb] ;B[rc] ;W[qb] ;B[hl]C[Enceladus [-\]: very surprising for b gote evanj [2d\]: b doesn't believe it was really gote :D EuroGoTV1 [-\]: none Zahlman [1k\]: what gote? tinca [-\]: if he gets b5 can be more, but still seems too little princezuko [6k?\]: white has h9? Zahlman [1k\]: b ended sente Zahlman [1k\]: normal sequence evanj [2d\]: zahl: we mean here evanj [2d\]: not the corner lee000001 [3d\]: gote is a forced move. Sente is a forcing move. Zahlman [1k\]: how is h8 gote? princezuko [6k?\]: looks like white h9 in video O.O ] ;W[hk]C[evanj [2d\]: yup salatunnus [2d\]: gote may just be a big point, not always forced Nino [1k\]: gote doesn't need to be forced. it can also be just for points EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B 1.20 left Zahlman [1k\]: so almost in byo? ] ;B[jq] ;W[jr]C[xyzon [1k\]: artem seems quite relaxed EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 72 seconds left tinca [-\]: unusual. Pal used to be a quick player eyeless [1d\]: tell me they dont use canadian byo yomi in this event ] ;B[nk]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: they use^^ eyeless [1d\]: XD evanj [2d\]: they don't use canadian byo yomi in this event Cassis0 [5d\]: o7 Zahlman [1k\]: how many stones/minutes? xyzon [1k\]: nice one evanj^^ ] ;W[nm]C[Zahlman [1k\]: hmm, l5-m7 not connected? :/ remsleep [8k\]: b L6 ?? Concinnity [6k\]: I never understood that shape. Ater black n8 white can't defend both cuts, so why not o6 or similar? tinca [-\]: If center W group is still not safe B has great chances for winning Zahlman [1k\]: concinnity, sometimes one side is not important ] ;B[om]C[Concinnity [6k\]: Alright remsleep [8k\]: w p6 Zahlman [1k\]: why so many local euro championships this time of year? Eisblut [2d\]: s3 big now princezuko [6k?\]: did i hear a phone? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yep, from catalin princezuko [6k?\]: lol NorthWind [5k\]: school holidays pseudocalm [18k\]: 15 per 5 pseudocalm [18k\]: oops chat was scrolled up ^_^ eyeless [1d\]: so is o4 peep protecting the cut now? Zahlman [1k\]: 15 stones/5 minutes? that's quite fast for this sort of event ] ;W[nn]C[evanj [2d\]: conc: that shape is useful sometimes, in that if b were to peep in the middle w could make good shape by wrapping around b while giving up one light stone evanj [2d\]: n8 is rarely actually a good move GoShinobi [-\]: dont think so EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game and betting on the next move on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 eyeless [1d\]: not so rarely Zahlman [1k\]: or at least, it's rarely a good move when offering it is also good :) ] ;B[hd]C[Laza [-\]: looks like pal was drinking from an empty glass cherisse [1k\]: b's play is very patient Concinnity [6k\]: Thanks ] ;W[gd] ;B[ge]C[princezuko [6k?\]: lol euro is faster than my vid XD ] ;W[hc]C[playgo [-\]: this is were I would take the lower right ] ;B[nl]C[salatunnus [2d\]: w center group getting weaker, no time for lower right I think Eisblut [2d\]: s3 xyzon [1k\]: would b n15 be sente Cassis0 [5d\]: c6 cherisse [1k\]: oooh b leading?! ] ;W[rq]C[Eisblut [2d\]: no ] ;B[or] ;W[qs]C[Eisblut [2d\]: w leads leachy [5k\]: w leading imo cherisse [1k\]: deng this corner Djaian [-\]: white has 4 corners ] ;B[kn]C[Eisblut [2d\]: n5 ] ;W[ln]C[krikri [1k\]: dunno white is behind about 10 points now is my guess ] ;B[lr] ;W[kr]C[Laza [-\]: l6 !? cherisse [1k\]: pal is eating the cup Djaian [-\]: same already happened in game before. Pal was black, white (Csaba) had also 4 corners. Still black won cherisse [1k\]: pls give him water pseudocalm [18k\]: yep CptHook [5k\]: isnt too soon for guessing? ] ;B[rp]C[Kampu [4k\]: M5 Cassis0 [5d\]: I count b behind by 10 points ] ;W[rr]C[Concinnity [6k\]: It's never too early for guessing, though it is often too early for knowing. Eisblut [2d\]: cant understand m6 krikri [1k\]: for guessing is never too soon for counting kostuek [-\]: w is toast globax [3d\]: m16 crosscut ? Bo2000 [1d\]: e17 ] ;B[oc] ;W[ob] ;B[nd] ;W[md] ;B[mc] ;W[nb]C[frexious [4k\]: w win ] ;B[ne] ;W[on] ;B[pn] ;W[me] ;B[mf]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: m12 leachy [5k\]: you guys that favor b seem to think b moyo is all solid territory that can't be chipped away at BobWhoosta [3k\]: M5 work? playgo [-\]: m5 n4 BobWhoosta [3k\]: Ok. ] ;W[lj]C[krikri [1k\]: no i guessed before W lived in lower corner considering that cut worked at M5 my bad ] ;B[id]C[LeT63 [-\]: L11 baarius [5d?\]: it worked before p6 ] ;W[nj]C[kostuek [-\]: it was ko at p1 ] ;B[oj]C[playgo [-\]: right, that's why white inserted p6 after the top DonkeyKong [9k\]: can i find a video of Artem vs Cornel previous round? eyeless [1d\]: dont think it was very clean before p6 eyeless [1d\]: w can peep o4 pseudocalm [18k\]: they might replay it on eurogotv later kong DuckRoll [-\]: o4 peep then B p1 DonkeyKong [9k\]: ok thanks ] ;W[ni] ;B[oi] ;W[ng] ;B[nf]C[LeT63 [-\]: b M5 not possible? ] ;W[oh] ;B[ph]C[playgo [-\]: m5 n4 n5 o4 ] ;W[ok]C[princezuko [6k?\]: m5 n4? Pempu [3d\]: explosion BobWhoosta [3k\]: That's huge. FunGoSage [2k\]: nice ] ;B[og]C[BobWhoosta [3k\]: Black must give up the two stones. tinca [-\]: not that huge smallbears [2d\]: pretty small DuckRoll [-\]: B now have to kill center ? evanj [2d\]: not big at all KoReNJe [3d\]: huge smallbears [2d\]: moves like j17 is much bigger KoReNJe [3d\]: b loses a lot smallbears [2d\]: or b4 is big ] ;W[ic] ;B[jd]C[Over9k [2k\]: lol ] ;W[jc]C[tinca [-\]: you guy who thinks B's moyo can turn to territory... are right :-) ] ;B[ke]C[smallbears [2d\]: b is aiming for something in centers whites groupe ] ;W[ld] ;B[le] ;W[kc] ;B[ol] ;W[hh]C[globax [3d\]: b4 possible ? BobWhoosta [3k\]: I think center is now totally alive. tinca [-\]: in addition... smallbears [2d\]: i think so ] ;B[ec]C[playgo [-\]: well, that's a confident move Lithium [?\]: white strong ] ;W[ed]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: b b5 is b ig ] ;B[dd] ;W[cc] ;B[fd] ;W[eb] ;B[ee] ;W[fc]C[Pempu [3d\]: can something like B4 do damage to the corner? globax [3d\]: b4 urgent cherisse [1k\]: but w got komi ] ;B[bp]C[globax [3d\]: :) ] ;W[bq]C[kavias [3k\]: :) xval [1k\]: pal hungry on board!!^^ evanj [2d\]: :) Lithium [?\]: after alive in center in sente and invade san-san R17 game is easz for white ] ;B[bo] ;W[co] ;B[cn] ;W[bn]C[leachy [5k\]: that b4 move was loud ] ;B[bm]C[Pempu [3d\]: I can't understand how these guys can play so fas ] ;W[rd]C[BobWhoosta [3k\]: Yeah, big move, so clickity clack. ] ;B[re] ;W[sc]C[evanj [2d\]: you should have seen the first twenty moves Betka [3k\]: is it byoyomi already? evanj [2d\]: they took about six hours eyeless [1d\]: they are making up for lost time EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 pseudocalm [18k\]: pal was in byo yomi around move 50 pseudocalm [18k\]: which was 15 moves later than last game Lithium [?\]: white win big baarius [5d?\]: black has to resign leachy [5k\]: b needs to play fast ...he took like 45 mins for the first like 10 moves and in the game before baarius [5d?\]: *should NorthWind [5k\]: I count W +6.5 ] ;B[hp] ;W[hr]C[globax [3d\]: 10points Fukurokuji [2k\]: what happened to livestream? ] ;B[se]C[frexious [4k\]: d5 ] ;W[be] ;B[li]C[evanj [2d\]: it got bored krikri [1k\]: i like H12 it not only make white alive but also helps against N10 cut BobWhoosta [3k\]: What's the benefit of B15 as opposed to B14? Pempu [3d\]: sente CptHook [5k\]: g10? ] ;W[mi]C[Pempu [3d\]: or maybe it's the same ] ;B[bf] ;W[af] ;B[ag] ;W[ae] ;B[bh]C[BobWhoosta [3k\]: E16 yet? ] ;W[km] ;B[jm]C[illa [4k\]: m5? BobWhoosta [3k\]: m5 n4. evanj [2d\]: doesn't work ] ;W[ap] ;B[an]C[Fukurokuji [2k\]: m5 n4 illa [4k\]: ok playgo [-\]: t4 ] ;W[jf] ;B[je] ;W[nh]C[Djavid: can black win ? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 ] ;B[os] ;W[ps]C[frexious [4k\]: no donGoku [4k\]: of course he can Eisblut [2d\]: no w wins Pempu [3d\]: d3 ] ;B[eo] ;W[ep]C[philippesg [5k\]: b j 13 ] ;B[ao] ;W[aq]C[eyeless [1d\]: b didnt seem to fight very hard this game ] ;B[dp] ;W[dq] ;B[do] ;W[cq]C[BobWhoosta [3k\]: Artem doesn't really allow his opponent to fight much. BobWhoosta [3k\]: Keeps strong, takes points... krikri [1k\]: i think that crucial was that white couls Onmyoji [-\]: i count b+74.5 Onmyoji [-\]: what is your count everyone? leachy [5k\]: he used up all his energy on move 9 tinca [-\]: The center W lived too easily Hug [2k\]: Onmoyju i count that aswell Cassis0 [5d\]: w provocated b all along... but b was too soft Fukurokuji [2k\]: b will attack w center group Hug [2k\]: sorry for spelling you name wrong XD ] ;B[jh]C[krikri [1k\]: could live in corner and the same time defend cut xyzon [1k\]: ah onmyoji you started counting again? Onmyoji [-\]: i never stopped A1R [4k\]: g10 looks like vital point Vador [?\]: And B just put a stone in his own territory, SE says ! ] ;W[dk] ;B[ck]C[eyeless [1d\]: b didnt fight very hard this game leachy [5k\]: onmyoji is a counting machine Lakotnik [3k\]: human SE ] ;W[eh]C[LeT63 [-\]: at leeast as good kostuek [-\]: so what, im a chit-chat machine ] ;B[dj] ;W[ek]C[from2ch [4k\]: cosmic let him be shining head donGoku [4k\]: g11 now leachy [5k\]: no kostuek....there is no chat estimator in kgs xyzon [1k\]: j13? SiBullet [3k\]: w+komi EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 Pempu [3d\]: I count 67 points for white Pempu [3d\]: oh + komi goatsunday [7k\]: g10 for fun ] ;B[hg] ;W[ih] ;B[ig]C[philippesg [5k\]: f 11 better LeT63 [-\]: t4?? ] ;W[ji]C[A1R [4k\]: pal is in good shape again ] ;B[ki]C[krikri [1k\]: i bet white is now counting like crazy ] ;W[gg]C[Vador [?\]: Still +74.5 ! ] ;B[fg] ;W[gh]C[maminti [5k\]: ehh ] ;B[kh] ;W[sp] ;B[so] ;W[sq]C[eyeless [1d\]: w has lots of points Hug [2k\]: about the same as b shikashogi [9k\]: why wont black play m5? Fatality [5k\]: yeah SE knows tons of crazy tesuji leachy [5k\]: m5 n4 evanj [2d\]: because it doesn't work evanj [2d\]: for starters evanj [2d\]: also, to frustrate you cherisse [1k\]: i hope b wins for keeping his cool ] ;B[mp]C[shikashogi [9k\]: ah thank you leachy ] ;W[mo]C[Pempu [3d\]: white seems a little bit ahead imo ] ;B[ro]C[strong10k [-\]: b + 69 imo ] ;W[mg]C[Vador [?\]: Nah ! 67.5 ! leachy [5k\]: no worries ;) evanj just taking the mickey there 'cause a million others said the same earlier evanj [2d\]: yes, i took your mickey ] ;B[lg] ;W[eg]C[Pempu [3d\]: I counter 76 for black Laza [-\]: e13 was bigger for black... ] ;B[hj]C[A1R [4k\]: tesuji? BobWhoosta [3k\]: Black is back in the game after L12. ] ;W[gk]C[A1R [4k\]: nope -.- ] ;B[ml] ;W[ll]C[Hug [2k\]: well Hug [2k\]: back in and back in prescott [1d\]: b wins Vador [?\]: B just lost 63.5 points ! Fukurokuji [2k\]: w+0.5 Nobato [6k\]: b+4.5 eyeless [1d\]: b res befor end? BobWhoosta [3k\]: Not even SE can kill H9 now... Hug [2k\]: looks very close prescott [1d\]: b+2.5 Hug [2k\]: f14 looks big ] ;B[jj] ;W[ij]C[Kubol [3k\]: for all of you using se: komi not included to score ;) ] ;B[ei] ;W[fi] ;B[di] ;W[np]C[Pempu [3d\]: it is Hug [2k\]: komi is eyeless [1d\]: this game has no komi? Hug [2k\]: included in score Kubol [3k\]: i mean Kubol [3k\]: in this transmition Vador [?\]: Intelligence not included neither eyeless [1d\]: is this a handi tournament? ] ;B[fp] ;W[fq] ;B[gp]C[BobWhoosta [3k\]: No, there is komi. ] ;W[op] ;B[pp]C[agugglez [3k\]: f14? snowman [-\]: very handy Nefeste [5k\]: all right with komi w has 6.5 ] ;W[nq]C[bonobo03 [3k\]: 6.5 komi ] ;B[nr] ;W[fm] ;B[fn]C[Hug [2k\]: f14 looks like 2 points sente or 3 poionts gote to me for w ] ;W[dg] ;B[cg]C[SiBullet [3k\]: seemes like b ahead, got more around k14 than expected no? LeT63 [-\]: t16 Hug [2k\]: f14 ] ;W[ls] ;B[ms] ;W[ks]C[Bo2000 [1d\]: stinks for black ] ;B[mm]C[Hug [2k\]: f14 eyeless [1d\]: its all w ] ;W[no] ;B[sd] ;W[rc]C[Hug [2k\]: play f14? ] ;B[hm] ;W[ip] ;B[io]C[agugglez [3k\]: m3 ] ;W[ff]C[go [-\]: gonna be close ] ;B[ef] ;W[ed] ;B[fe]C[GreyEyes [1d\]: m3 nothing BobWhoosta [3k\]: I think white has the better sente moves, and will catch up... ] ;W[ec]C[Bo2000 [1d\]: 0.5 game =) Hug [2k\]: ko for win ] ;B[fg]C[Nishoba [4k\]: wooo Nishoba [4k\]: xDD Hug [2k\]: XD Nishoba [4k\]: Q pasada! BobWhoosta [3k\]: M3 ko threat eyeless [1d\]: w wins the ko A1R [4k\]: b has more threats?! strong10k [-\]: 6.5 game you mean Hug [2k\]: yes Fukurokuji [2k\]: w has more threats ] ;W[qe]C[Hug [2k\]: w have r15 area a12 m3 ] ;B[qf] ;W[ff]C[Hug [2k\]: and more youta: b ahead 1.5 GreyEyes [1d\]: not a good ko threat whoosta Jadeite [6k?\]: go Artem Pempu [3d\]: black has 2 threats youta: for the moment Bo2000 [1d\]: japanese rules ? GreyEyes [1d\]: then b has m4 as a threat Pempu [3d\]: oh wait 3 evanj [2d\]: romanian rules BobWhoosta [3k\]: Why not good grey eyes? s8 [3d\]: he already has, Grey BobWhoosta [3k\]: Sets up another ko for black to lose a point. slukk [2k\]: go Pál!!!!!! odnihs [-\]: w so many threats Hug [2k\]: b hade it as a threat right now too^^ youta: go artem slukk [2k\]: no GreyEyes [1d\]: oh wait nvm... Hug [2k\]: m3 wont change m4 ko threat slukk [2k\]: go PÁL ] ;B[mr] ;W[fg]C[Hug [2k\]: w have a7 c7 a12 ] ;B[lh] ;W[mj]C[leachy [5k\]: seems w has more threats...a12 a7 m3 s14 k13 vs s1 g10 m4 Hug [2k\]: nice ] ;B[oo] ;W[lo]C[Kachnak [1d\]: w+0,5? Hug [2k\]: yes youta: yes Hug [2k\]: b is a bad played cherisse [1k\]: geesh Hug [2k\]: loosing Hug [2k\]: so bad Hug [2k\]: w so much better Laman [1d\]: poor black strong10k [-\]: se wrong EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W wins by 1 ko-threat Pempu [3d\]: only one? eyeless [1d\]: w had more than 1 more ko threat go [-\]: :-) NorthWind [5k\]: trounced by 0.5 pt eyeless [1d\]: w lots more threats than b krikri [1k\]: w wins by total meltdown Exologist [3k\]: b still has to capture p9 agugglez [3k\]: i think se is right here leachy [5k\]: yeah...i mean how could w lose to this balding skinny bloke with glasses who thinks on move 9 for like half an hour? ZeroStress [1d\]: w still had a lot of ko threat EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+0.5 Jadeite [6k?\]: well done Artem :))) donGoku [4k\]: oh nooo... DuckRoll [-\]: W had like 7 ko-threats youta: bravo artem xval [1k\]: so strong NorthWind [5k\]: yay Artemmmmm DuckRoll [-\]: so a lot more Fukurokuji [2k\]: as i said krikri [1k\]: well done Pal , he returned to game donGoku [4k\]: so boring tinca [-\]: bravo Pál Fukurokuji [2k\]: :) colorcoded [4k\]: yes, i count 7 for w too, only couple for b Laman [1d\]: pal should have thought more in the opening :D tinca [-\]: nothin to be ashamed of karublitz [7k\]: Artem is Artem92 ? youta: right pettorres [4k\]: W +,5/ pettorres [4k\]: ? pebarefoot [-\]: thx, everyone ])