(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[8/300 Canadian] GN[Iasi Cup 2010 round 2 board 1]PW[Artem Kachanovskyj]PB[Mirel Florescu]WR[7d]BR[6d]DT[2010-08-28]PC[Iasi, Romania]US[HW9x9] ;B[qd] ;W[dd] ;B[pq]C[hosainogo: hi zazie ;-) zazie [5d\]: hello ] ;W[dq]C[hosainogo: harry, will you broadcast also the final of the Romanian Masters? On eurogotv3 maybe ... ] ;B[fc] ;W[cf] ;B[kc] ;W[po]C[holynec [?\]: HARO EUROGOTV ] ;B[pl] ;W[mp] ;B[no] ;W[op] ;B[np] ;W[oq] ;B[nq] ;W[nr] ;B[pr] ;W[or] ;B[mq] ;W[qq] ;B[pn] ;W[qn] ;B[qo] ;W[ro]C[hosainogo: zazie, the game is not at the top of the active games and we are very few viewers (that's too bad). Can you do that? zazie [5d\]: i would do, if EurogoTV1 answered my pm :) hosainogo: lol EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, the masters will also be broadcast hosainogo: great, harry :) EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it starts at 9 am romania time hosainogo: thank you very much ] ;B[pp]C[SinaGo [3k\]: artem was promoted 7 dan? hosainogo: I don't know but he deserves it :) SinaGo [3k\]: im talking about european rating system Zahlman [1k\]: why isn't this at the top of the egr list? hosainogo: sorry, sinago, I was talking about Jupiter rating system ;-) ] ;W[qp] ;B[oo] ;W[qo] ;B[mr] ;W[qr]C[hosainogo: my mistake :) ] ;B[fq] ;W[do] ;B[fo] ;W[dl] ;B[gl]C[kryft [1d\]: Hmm, isn't R10 normal with mini chinese (instead of Q5)? ausrussell [4k\]: it looks like black is warm zazie [5d\]: both have been played by 9p ;) kryft [1d\]: zazie, Recently? rpenrose [3d\]: go Artem! littlebell [2k\]: oh, w is our artem 8dan !!! *-* zazie [5d\]: depends of what you call recently, but i'd say yes :) kryft [1d\]: zazie, Ok, thanks. :) ] ;W[od] ;B[pf] ;W[ke]C[parvati [2k\]: is it preparation for smth like l8? zazie [5d\]: more than a hundred pro games since 2000 according to gobase repository zazie [5d\]: (with D3 in D4) littlebell [2k\]: artem! we love u. ] ;B[mc] ;W[ne] ;B[me] ;W[mf] ;B[le] ;W[lf]C[fivekiller [3k\]: what is iasi cup? fivekiller [3k\]: ????? fivekiller [3k\]: \]please zazie [5d\]: a tournament in Romania fivekiller [3k\]: merci ] ;B[nf] ;W[of]C[fivekiller [3k\]: i thought some tournament going on in ] ;B[ng]C[fivekiller [3k\]: paris? ] ;W[og]C[zazie [5d\]: if you mean french championship, it's not in Paris, but in Bourges ] ;B[nh] ;W[kf]C[fivekiller [3k\]: merci again fivekiller [3k\]: how is thomas doing these days? littlebell [2k\]: i remember goddes artemis zazie [5d\]: 2/2 yesterday, which was the first day ] ;B[pe] ;W[oe] ;B[pc]C[zazie [5d\]: we'll see today :) iuiuiu: where does take place the tournament? fivekiller [3k\]: not too good? ] ;W[oc]C[fivekiller [3k\]: for thomas zazie [5d\]: :) fivekiller [3k\]: i know him since he was 12 fivekiller [3k\]: or 11 fivekiller [3k\]: he was a small kid EuroGoTV3 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 seishiro [3k\]: artem is doing really good ] ;B[jd] ;W[pg]C[fivekiller [3k\]: i agree SinaGo [3k\]: black should have played more agressive fivekiller [3k\]: i do not agree seishiro [3k\]: black has a pretty big influence on the bottom fivekiller [3k\]: agree MotoRossi [4k\]: jinkidie [18k\]: tell us a little about the venue :) Godshand [1k?\]: yeah, pls tell us more about go fivekiller [3k\]: this is fron france fivekiller [3k\]: or rumania? fivekiller [3k\]: i do not know Godshand [1k?\]: read eurogotv's info jinkidie [18k\]: kk SinaGo [3k\]: this is romanian cup EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ROMANIA SinaGo [3k\]: iasi cup fivekiller [3k\]: ohh fivekiller [3k\]: thx fivekiller [3k\]: iasi is in france fivekiller [3k\]: i am very confussed seishiro [3k\]: i think so fivekiller [3k\]: so where amI EuroGoTV2 [-\]: IASI is the second biggest city in ROMANIA jinkidie [18k\]: ok so they are playing the romanian cup in france... :( fivekiller [3k\]: ' in france? or in ruman? seishiro [3k\]: france i think EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ROMANIA jinkidie [18k\]: Is hot there today? seishiro [3k\]: lasi does sound french fivekiller [3k\]: ok now i understand everything EuroGoTV2 [-\]: both romanian and french are latin languages fivekiller [3k\]: merci for the informatin ] ;B[pi] ;W[rf] ;B[re]C[fivekiller [3k\]: to me french spanish fugosravian are all same fivekiller [3k\]: german dutch eng, a bit different ] ;W[qi]C[fivekiller [3k\]: same bleed jinkidie [18k\]: man it sounds like a tuba band is warming up in the background JanHao [2d\]: what hour is masters game? ] ;B[qj]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the masters will start in a few minutes hosainogo: la 9 jeane :) JanHao [2d\]: adica a inceput? hosainogo: nu :) fdhhhahh: EUROGOTV, where can I see tournament table? hosainogo: eurogotv3 jinkidie [18k\]: have there been any complaints about the noisy room from the players? BrunoLi [16k\]: very good ^ ^ gepay [2k\]: hard for me to see 2 eyes for w ] ;W[qf]C[seishiro [3k\]: white killing a group maybe parvati [2k\]: artem will kill q17 :) Muadhdib [16k\]: and its getting heavier... Shusmacku [2k\]: w actually gets live here pretty easy with this group on q13 parvati [2k\]: s17 next? Shusmacku [2k\]: right now he threatens r15 and q16 JanHao [2d\]: Multam hosainogo! hosainogo: sa traiesti EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game and betting on the next move on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 rpenrose [3d\]: lmao I like the betting on the next move part Shusmacku [2k\]: im guessing s17 rpenrose [3d\]: need to set up a casino doubt [?\]: lol if you start betting watch one of the players pull up a pc and start betting on his next move rpenrose [3d\]: haha yeah strong10k [-\]: r15 rpenrose [3d\]: I agree on r15 ausrussell [4k\]: who what where is Iasi? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: capital; of the province Moldavie in Romania ausrussell [4k\]: thx rpenrose [3d\]: the building they're playing in looks nice jinkidie [18k\]: where's Howard Cossell when ya need him.. EuroGoTV1 [-\]: beside this theatre is a super bueatiful palace gepay [2k\]: is there also a breakaway from Russia Moldavie ? EuroGoTV2 [-\]: No way rpenrose [3d\]: maybe you're thinking of Moldova? hosainogo: Moldavie is the Frech way of saying Moldova :) jinkidie [18k\]: what is a moldova ] ;B[qe]C[parvati [2k\]: moldova will be never part of romania hosainogo: funny :) parvati [2k\]: s17 hosainogo: Iasi is in Moldova which is in Romania :) ] ;W[pb]C[jinkidie [18k\]: ok so at least I know its not a kind of cake rpenrose [3d\]: there's a province called Moldova in addition to the country? ] ;B[qb] ;W[nb]C[gepay [2k\]: yes in between Roumania and Ukraineyes hosainogo: There is also a country Moldova which was part of Romania. EuroGoTV2 [-\]: The actually Republic of Modova was part of Romania for century hosainogo: right EuroGoTV2 [-\]: but gone to Russia after th World War 2 parvati [2k\]: before it was part of austria-hungary empire NorthWind [5k\]: whoa this starts early parvati [2k\]: and what? EuroGoTV2 [-\]: half of Moldavia is still part of Romania jinkidie [18k\]: An the capital city of Moldova is... wait I'm keen to guess... Moldova? hosainogo: no EuroGoTV2 [-\]: and IASI is the biggest city here Shusmacku [2k\]: r15 s17 looked kinda tricky parvati [2k\]: kishinev rpenrose [3d\]: that's really, really confusing DvaPutin [2k\]: kishenev parvati [2k\]: sounds polish or russian hosainogo: lol rpenrose [3d\]: o18 is a great move EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game and betting on the next move on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 strong10k [-\]: r12? rpenrose [3d\]: if black plays q19 then m16 is dangerous rpenrose [3d\]: also if he plays r13 Shusmacku [2k\]: hwo about r12 hosainogo: au inceput Popic - Catalin parvati [2k\]: r12 and m15 will die rpenrose [3d\]: I don't think r12 is too good rpenrose [3d\]: aji keshi Shusmacku [2k\]: m15 is two stones parvati [2k\]: and connection for 2 weak groups rpenrose [3d\]: yeah rpenrose [3d\]: that being the important part parvati [2k\]: then l8 will be easy strong10k [-\]: j17 Shusmacku [2k\]: ok so whats the better move for black? rpenrose [3d\]: if white were able to capture the m16 stones with minimal sacrifice he would be winning by a good margin parvati [2k\]: around m18 may be rpenrose [3d\]: n18 maybe? idk fdhhhahh: EUROGOTV, where can I see result of 1 round? Shusmacku [2k\]: then sacrificing r18 then? rpenrose [3d\]: that doesn't sacrifice r18 seishiro [3k\]: how much time does both player gets? gepay [2k\]: now I can see w living Higanbana [?\]: nice, an earlier broadcast game. thx EurogoTV dandan1115 [6k\]: so slow hosainogo: @fdhhhahh - if you're Romanian read the last post from the Romanian Go List. Otherwise, I don't think you can see the result somewhere. Is there a player you're interested in? Zahlman [1k\]: if you want fast, stick to kgs games jinkidie [18k\]: well yes but it gives us time to discuss the geopolitical situation in Romania rpenrose [3d\]: could call to whoever said r12 NorthWind [5k\]: yes hos .. Artem :D Korea4K [2d\]: b sleeping? why not R13 cut? rpenrose [3d\]: I think it may result in black's death though :-) skyphoenix [-\]: doesn't q19 and r12 threat w's eyespace ] ;B[qh] ;W[ld] ;B[md] ;W[lc] ;B[lb] ;W[kd] ;B[mb]C[parvati [2k\]: byby n17 dandan1115 [6k\]: playing faster will make GO more popular Amakaresu [2k\]: wow, so fast.. ] ;W[jc] ;B[kb]C[doubt [?\]: dandan playing fast is what the internet is for rpenrose [3d\]: playing slowly is important ] ;W[ic] ;B[pa]C[parvati [2k\]: n19? doubt [?\]: hm... yes it is. but on the internet people love to blitz johnny [4k\]: playing johnny [4k\]: slowly johnny [4k\]: not Higanbana [?\]: dying fast doesn't help johnny [4k\]: needed johnny [4k\]: now johnny [4k\]: by johnny [4k\]: B rpenrose [3d\]: white has a decent game now even if p17 dies rpenrose [3d\]: maybe somewhat behind, but not if he squeezes some mileage out of it skyphoenix [-\]: b got both r12 and q19, that's unexpected Nyrckes [1k\]: johnny pls dont kill your Enter Muadhdib [16k\]: it seems white will lose rpenrose [3d\]: the fight or the game? parvati [2k\]: n17 will die johnny [4k\]: sorry, had a slow attack parvati [2k\]: and f17 looks silly now EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ko^^ Muadhdib [16k\]: game I guess BenSenTen [?\]: who's winning? mcc: w win rpenrose [3d\]: haha ko would be intense jinkidie [18k\]: isn't k16 in danger of getting laddered? BenSenTen [?\]: thx mcc EuroGoTV1 [-\]: p18 looks like only move Muadhdib [16k\]: black has more control... rpenrose [3d\]: I think white has the better position but his moves may be harder to find NorthWind [5k\]: no point in a ko here ? Muadhdib [16k\]: if black gets up right corner...bam its over parvati [2k\]: yes p18 rpenrose [3d\]: not true! white got a great result on the outside strong10k [-\]: seems like p18 and it is 7 to 6 liberties BenSenTen [?\]: p17 dying? parvati [2k\]: is it possible to save n17? Hangovers [3k\]: seki? SinaGo [3k\]: maybe seki ] ;W[oa]C[dandan1115 [6k\]: why? isn't the N17 dead? johnny [4k\]: B has a moyo thing going as well ] ;B[ob]C[Shusmacku [2k\]: I think B has a good game even if m18 dies Gilluled [16k\]: ko rpenrose [3d\]: broadcaster was correct! BenSenTen [?\]: w over if b kill p17 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i build in a lag so i look smart Zahlman [1k\]: :D parvati [2k\]: why ko? ( rpenrose [3d\]: :-) Muadhdib [16k\]: I think so strong10k [-\]: seems like white has no threats for this one seishiro [3k\]: too risky? Zahlman [1k\]: what do you mean "why ko", what is the alternative? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: q11 parvati [2k\]: killing n17 would be enough? rkda [6k\]: o19? Gilluled [16k\]: p11 praeludium [5d\]: where are the threats? rpenrose [3d\]: yeah hard to find any Zahlman [1k\]: o19 local threat splashy [1k\]: p11 rpenrose [3d\]: though black also wouldn't have any Muadhdib [16k\]: w needs BIG threats Gilluled [16k\]: p11 is a threat cause black has to cut it rpenrose [3d\]: hmm are you sure that o19 is a local threat? Zahlman [1k\]: ... wait, maybe w can't win that semeai Zahlman [1k\]: yeah :( parvati [2k\]: j16 isnt one? ] ;W[oi]C[Zahlman [1k\]: we're looking for w threats, parvati EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^ Gilluled [16k\]: yay i was right :D Shusmacku [2k\]: seems like w filling on p18 was an option Analysis [3d\]: nice call gilluled EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no i was Muadhdib [16k\]: uhm.. EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ah lol, i see EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i messed up p and q Muadhdib [16k\]: w should try killing O13 rpenrose [3d\]: o11 as followup move if black ignores praeludium [5d\]: I think w o19 instead of p19 would have killed Zahlman [1k\]: lol, no chance of that mua holynec [?\]: hi hrary EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hi^^ parvati [2k\]: if W would connect at p18 instead of ko then n17 dies right? rpenrose [3d\]: I agree with praeludium rpenrose [3d\]: but I didn't see o19 at the time Muadhdib [16k\]: I c it as only way for w Gilluled [16k\]: couldn't white follow up with q12 and get the r12 stone to make 2 eyes? praeludium [5d\]: maybe w was afraid of something I can hardly read, like b j16 and giant conception of moyo Gilluled [16k\]: oh wait r11 is in atari never mind XP Zahlman [1k\]: p12 q12 s11 ] ;B[oh] ;W[pb] ;B[hc]C[rpenrose [3d\]: take Muadhdib [16k\]: w Q12 splashy [1k\]: must take rpenrose [3d\]: well rpenrose [3d\]: q12 is a good threat splashy [1k\]: ya but so is j16 Zahlman [1k\]: even if w takes, how is the group going to live? ] ;W[qa]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: r13 rpenrose [3d\]: ah rpenrose [3d\]: if he plays r13 Amakaresu [2k\]: corner dead rpenrose [3d\]: then he might as well resign Zahlman [1k\]: hmm, w wins semeai against m18 if b r13? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: black in byo-yomi parvati [2k\]: why> praeludium [5d\]: h17 was the tesuji ! strong10k [-\]: black hsould just throw away the corner Zahlman [1k\]: some tesuji... :/ parvati [2k\]: rpenrose parvati [2k\]: why r12 is bad? Shusmacku [2k\]: gotta do j16 ] ;B[qg] ;W[id]C[parvati [2k\]: *r13 rpenrose [3d\]: now white kills n17 Amakaresu [2k\]: greedy black? skyphoenix [-\]: r14 group dead and corner lives praeludium [5d\]: no, bj18 work ] ;B[ib] ;W[jb] ;B[ja] ;W[hb] ;B[ia]C[Zahlman [1k\]: oho ] ;W[gb]C[Zahlman [1k\]: f18 ronnyss [5k\]: f18 Amakaresu [2k\]: h17 sure was very nice tesuji ] ;B[fb] ;W[ka] ;B[la] ;W[nc]C[rpenrose [3d\]: yeah Muadhdib [16k\]: now it's an even game ] ;B[ie]C[strong10k [-\]: 16k strong ] ;W[hd] ;B[gc] ;W[nd]C[parvati [2k\]: ko... parvati [2k\]: omg ] ;B[ga]C[Zahlman [1k\]: what, you didn't see this? ] ;W[ma] ;B[na] ;W[ph]C[praeludium [5d\]: deep reading praeludium [5d\]: by w Muadhdib [16k\]: nice view EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game and betting on the next move on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 holynec [?\]: who here deep readS?! johnny [4k\]: sneaky W Zahlman [1k\]: kwned johnny [4k\]: going all in skyphoenix [-\]: w can ignore any threat, because those stones are worth more, i think Shusmacku [2k\]: ointoishi ] ;B[he] ;W[je] ;B[gd] ;W[jd]C[Arcticwolf [-\]: Those moves means Black is going to ignore. rpenrose [3d\]: yeah Arcticwolf [-\]: Mean, I mean, sorry. strong10k [-\]: s11 at least rpenrose [3d\]: black has no threat for this ko Arcticwolf [-\]: Very much so. NorthWind [5k\]: B h19 Zahlman [1k\]: h19 q10, then b attacks the dango parvati [2k\]: dango? Arcticwolf [-\]: Should be pretty obvious, I don't know what's Black thinking. parvati [2k\]: what is dango? ] ;B[ri]C[Stoch [12k\]: l15 rpenrose [3d\]: wow ] ;W[ma]C[Zahlman [1k\]: ! Shusmacku [2k\]: the heavy thing on k16 ] ;B[lh]C[Stoch [12k\]: lots of stones, not a lot of liberties ] ;W[ka]C[jinkidie [18k\]: a lump Arcticwolf [-\]: Oh. Gilluled [16k\]: ... Arcticwolf [-\]: Black is going for the moyo. Nyrckes [1k\]: no dango anymore :D Shusmacku [2k\]: one space jump is never bad skyphoenix [-\]: why not h19? Ceausescu [1d\]: i like b Arcticwolf [-\]: Because Black thinks this is enough, even though it isn't Stoch [12k\]: is m12 really worth 18 points? Zahlman [1k\]: b is a architect and a dreamer Shusmacku [2k\]: well now b is the one with the weak chape johnny [4k\]: W can live in B's moyo seishiro [3k\]: blacks moyo will decrease ] ;B[ji]C[Muadhdib [16k\]: not 2 much ] ;W[db]C[Amakaresu [2k\]: black doesn't have enough to win Muadhdib [16k\]: but still b need to attack w Zahlman [1k\]: this play puts the tough decisions on w gepay [2k\]: does look big enough to build a house in Arcticwolf [-\]: I'd start reducing with f2, but that's because I'm greedy. rpenrose [3d\]: d18 is a nice, calm move Amakaresu [2k\]: yes Zahlman [1k\]: big space, but I think it may be too thick rpenrose [3d\]: I'd probably play a panicky h9 or something ] ;B[ef]C[Muadhdib [16k\]: no calm moves for b jinkidie [18k\]: he's going for it all? Zahlman [1k\]: that's panicky? NorthWind [5k\]: W has time for h19 ? Arcticwolf [-\]: Way too small here. rpenrose [3d\]: no, I think h19 is too small parvati [2k\]: e14 seems not good Porkypine [4k\]: H19 is like 10 points >_> teoabasb: e14 great Porkypine [4k\]: Way too small rpenrose [3d\]: I think e14 is good Zahlman [1k\]: b has enough running room that the h19 eye is not significant teoabasb: e14 genious move gepay [2k\]: 10 points in gote around johnny [4k\]: W d12 rpenrose [3d\]: idk about genius teoabasb: attack and defend at once rpenrose [3d\]: but it's good ] ;W[kh] ;B[ki] ;W[fe] ;B[ee]C[Zahlman [1k\]: e15 ] ;W[ed]C[parvati [2k\]: e14 shape wasnt good JanHao [2d\]: f14 Amakaresu [2k\]: f14 g15 ? JanHao [2d\]: sacrifice all! ethanol [-\]: b dies if f14 Zahlman [1k\]: sacrifice for what? splashy [1k\]: ftw ] ;B[gf] ;W[ff] ;B[fg] ;W[fd] ;B[ge]C[rpenrose [3d\]: yikes Enceladus [-\]: artem so cool ] ;W[mh] ;B[mi]C[selectz [7k\]: white won this game Shusmacku [2k\]: n12..has to give it up selectz [7k\]: but... rpenrose [3d\]: I don't understand n12 strong10k [-\]: misread perhaps Enceladus [-\]: w can win by defend left? rpenrose [3d\]: well it's not terrible, it just doesn't seem to do anything either ] ;W[fk]C[b19trust [4k\]: build in sente EuroGoTV1 [-\]: setting up aji ] ;B[gk]C[rpenrose [3d\]: yeah, that seems right ] ;W[fi]C[zzz [2k\]: g13 Zahlman [1k\]: defend left not quite enough imo ] ;B[gh] ;W[hj]C[NorthWind [5k\]: W has 10 captures + komi so prob yes Enc Zahlman [1k\]: but this plan may be enough :) Zahlman [1k\]: building left too rpenrose [3d\]: there it is! Zahlman [1k\]: where what is teoabasb: left side like emental cheese teoabasb: b ahead Goemon [2k\]: left side is still open for B rpenrose [3d\]: white's moyo probe skyphoenix [-\]: is w aiming for w o11, b n13, w m13, b n12, w n10, b m11 sequence ] ;B[gj] ;W[gi] ;B[hi] ;W[hh] ;B[ii] ;W[hg]C[Zahlman [1k\]: sky, that accomplishes nothing ] ;B[ig]C[teoabasb: whoa Zahlman [1k\]: and costs w points compared to just n13 Enceladus [-\]: they in byo yomi yet? splashy [1k\]: w mis teoabasb: another nice move selectz [7k\]: white should have taken j13 teoabasb: b on fire rpenrose [3d\]: I wonder if artem missed this selectz [7k\]: heh yea he did parvati [2k\]: now I can see purpose of n12 Arcticwolf [-\]: Of course he missed it, he wouldn't have played it otherwise. ] ;W[eh]C[strong10k [-\]: did his facial expression change rpenrose [3d\]: hmm selectz [7k\]: j12 might work for white Enceladus [-\]: or he gets a big left in sente? Arcticwolf [-\]: Might work? Zahlman [1k\]: parvati, what has n12 to do with this? teoabasb: now tenuki and invade rpenrose [3d\]: still a close game parvati [2k\]: may be invasion later rpenrose [3d\]: but seems like b lost a lot from that mistake Zahlman [1k\]: j12 clearly not working parvati [2k\]: what if W will play m13 later? jinkidie [18k\]: like c10 or something? selectz [7k\]: j12 works fine Zahlman [1k\]: j12 k12 j14 k13 , nothing selectz [7k\]: well selectz [7k\]: maybe notr ] ;B[eg]C[Zahlman [1k\]: h14 k14 miai Goemon [2k\]: w j12 b k13 Zahlman [1k\]: or that way, too Muadhdib [16k\]: nice Seiseki [3k\]: still close game NorthWind [5k\]: d12 Goemon [2k\]: d13 w gote but keeps moyo splashy [1k\]: w d13 texmurphy [-\]: e2 zzz [2k\]: d13 Goemon [2k\]: w d13 also sente strong10k [-\]: c13 Arcticwolf [-\]: W has like 90 points including komi, B has about 80. rpenrose [3d\]: there's still stuff in the lower left though Goemon [2k\]: w d13 b d12 risky Arcticwolf [-\]: The invasion is necessary on the left, but it will surely damage the centre. Seiseki [3k\]: q7? Arcticwolf [-\]: Q7 will come soon. teoabasb: artem plannig an invasion Arcticwolf [-\]: But probably d13 - g13 exchange first. Zahlman [1k\]: time? Goemon [2k\]: 60mins :P strong10k [-\]: artem thinks he is ahead enough parvati [2k\]: i think n12 was good for invasion Stoch [12k\]: what does n12 do? Arcticwolf [-\]: Takes points. ethanol [-\]: n12 definitely not an "invasion" :) parvati [2k\]: its not parvati [2k\]: it will help parvati [2k\]: to q7 later parvati [2k\]: just wait rpenrose [3d\]: did the video feed die? Porkypine [4k\]: yup johnny [4k\]: B c2? jinkidie [18k\]: b went beserk and attacked camera parvati [2k\]: haha SinaGo [3k\]: i refresh and see artem vs ilya rpenrose [3d\]: yeah haha rpenrose [3d\]: that was weird Muadhdib [16k\]: there it is parvati [2k\]: I wonder if you have to be talented to read like artem do Porkypine [4k\]: guess the internet died Porkypine [4k\]: :P splashy [1k\]: escaped jinkidie [18k\]: ah the refesh trick works! ] ;W[dg] ;B[fh] ;W[ei] ;B[dr] ;W[cr] ;B[er] ;W[fm] ;B[gm] ;W[fn]C[Arcticwolf [-\]: Black decided not to ivnade. ] ;B[gn] ;W[eo] ;B[fp]C[Muadhdib [16k\]: it's almost over NorthWind [5k\]: heh, 2 spectators in team colours :) rpenrose [3d\]: d2 was huge rpenrose [3d\]: but not enough ] ;W[pm] ;B[ol] ;W[ha] ;B[br] ;W[bq] ;B[cs] ;W[cq] ;B[ea] ;W[da] ;B[rb] ;W[on] ;B[nn] ;W[om] ;B[nm] ;W[ql] ;B[qk] ;W[rl]C[jinkidie [18k\]: What's the French word for "go"? Zahlman [1k\]: why so fast now? Goemon [2k\]: w might get this game NorthWind [5k\]: allez rpenrose [3d\]: of course he will... Arcticwolf [-\]: Probably "Go". rpenrose [3d\]: he's been winning the whole time teoabasb: "le go" johnny [4k\]: surrender rpenrose [3d\]: despite a couple of gaffs seishiro [3k\]: its at yose EuroGoTV1 [-\]: its not fast EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i got dced and this is the moves the played ] ;B[fl] ;W[el] ;B[fj] ;W[ej] ;B[ek]C[Arcticwolf [-\]: Easily enough for White. EuroGoTV1 [-\]: they* ] ;W[mg] ;B[ni] ;W[dk]C[Arcticwolf [-\]: then just d15. rpenrose [3d\]: remember the cut at g13 Arcticwolf [-\]: There's damezumari. rpenrose [3d\]: what's damezumari? Goemon [2k\]: ah yes Goemon [2k\]: i agree ] ;B[rk] ;W[lg] ;B[li]C[Goemon [2k\]: poor 2k reading right there ] ;W[ra] ;B[sl] ;W[rm]C[johnny [4k\]: a2 jinkidie [18k\]: pickled fish I think RyuuGan [1k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?damezumari johnny [4k\]: j12 rpenrose [3d\]: a2 is a mistake for black parvati [2k\]: a2 b1 rpenrose [3d\]: yeah RyuuGan [1k\]: a2 b1 ] ;B[sb] ;W[jg]C[parvati [2k\]: in mfgo there is exercises for that ) johnny [4k\]: dooooh! rpenrose [3d\]: seems like white wins comfortably ] ;B[if] ;W[pd] ;B[qc]C[teoabasb: b should have invaded ] ;W[de]C[Arcticwolf [-\]: Yes he should. johnny [4k\]: k12 Arcticwolf [-\]: Lack of positional judgement. ] ;B[gg]C[Zahlman [1k\]: ohhhhh... when a stone pokes your eye, leaves one lib till you die, that's atari / and you can't fill that space, or you'll then lose the race, dam'zumari... strong10k [-\]: invaded where? ] ;W[jh] ;B[ih] ;W[jf]C[Arcticwolf [-\]: But then again, it surely would have damaged the centre. ] ;B[ec] ;W[dc] ;B[df] ;W[cg]C[Arcticwolf [-\]: Left side. ] ;B[ns]C[Goemon [2k\]: probably it's been asked millions times but can we see the ranking for this tournament? ] ;W[ps] ;B[ep]C[jinkidie [18k\]: niceDean Martin impression ] ;W[dp] ;B[sm] ;W[sn]C[Arcticwolf [-\]: I'd also like to see the scoreboard. ] ;B[sk]C[Goemon [2k\]: yep NorthWind [5k\]: W won without invasion. nice advert for counting ] ;W[fa]C[teoabasb: i'd like to see laura rpenrose [3d\]: yeah, did Christian Pop and Catalin Taranu both lose already? ] ;B[eb] ;W[eq]C[Arcticwolf [-\]: Artem's positional judgement is really good. EuroGoTV1 [-\]: catalin and pop arent playing this tournament seishiro [3k\]: yep EuroGoTV1 [-\]: they play romanian masters cup ] ;B[bs] ;W[ar]C[rpenrose [3d\]: ah! ] ;B[fk] ;W[ga]C[rpenrose [3d\]: also going on in Romania right now? ] ;B[sa]C[Goemon [2k\]: oh i thought this is the same tourney ] ;W[pa] ;B[ds] ;W[aq] ;B[fr] ;W[as] ;B[ms] ;W[os]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: romanian masters is running during same time and same place =X Goemon [2k\]: strange LovroKlc [-\]: isnt that kinda wierd or somthing rpenrose [3d\]: wow, Romania is the hot spot for Go these days LovroKlc [-\]: they cant play both tournaments, right? teoabasb: florescu 6d not even in top masters group? wow Hagios [1d\]: I thought Romanian Masters was already over, played in the days before Iasi cup? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: well, its not weird if you understand all details teoabasb: so many good romanians Goemon [2k\]: where in romania? timisoara? or Zahlman [1k\]: rpenrose, rather the Go-zone :) Zahlman [1k\]: maiyahi rpenrose [3d\]: haha for sure EuroGoTV1 [-\]: romanian masters started a while ago, and top romnians all played in it rpenrose [3d\]: nice reference Zahlman Arcticwolf [-\]: Huge win for White. EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but now only finals is left with catalin and popic EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so all romanians but them play the iasi cup mcc: w win teoabasb: aha Zahlman [1k\]: allo, sarusuberi un haiduc ;) EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+9.5 teoabasb: sunt eu Zahlman [1k\]: ... it is a joke rpenrose [3d\]: go Artem! mcc: the end seishiro [3k\]: wow that close Zahlman [1k\]: I am changing "salut, sunt eu" into "sarusuberi", the japanese for a monkey-jump teoabasb: nicely played by artichok rpenrose [3d\]: black actually played well given the situation in the upper right teoabasb: i don't understand why b didn't try to complicate more on the left teoabasb: this is like giving up Hagios [1d\]: Will we be able to see the review, or will we watch a t-shirt and arm? :P Zahlman [1k\]: maybe b counted wrong? Arcticwolf [-\]: 9,5 points close? Muadhdib [16k\]: I still think black failed in the up-right corner rpenrose [3d\]: nice, get that dude out of the way Hagios [1d\]: Mirel's counting is quite good, I imagine he didn't see a chance. teoabasb: wrong by 10 points?? teoabasb: not when you're 6d Zahlman [1k\]: well, he didn't resign, so... rpenrose [3d\]: nice shot of Pop Arcticwolf [-\]: 9,5 is humiliation, not close. EuroGoTV1 [-\]: please dont say such nonsense gepay [2k\]: dwould b hbe been better saving n17 and lettin w into moyo 3o points ? teoabasb: oh come on, b played nice (after that UR clsuterf** Zahlman [1k\]: everyone loves to say that 9.5 is humiliating for the strong players rpenrose [3d\]: I don't think it's THAT much... Muadhdib [16k\]: at yose u cant overcome more than 6-8 moku Zahlman [1k\]: but it's common for kgs 9ds to have a bigger margin teoabasb: b yose was good Arcticwolf [-\]: Well not humiliating, of course. I was exaggerating to make a point that 9,5 is not that close. jinkidie [18k\]: with a 1d difference isn't 9 points about what you expect? teoabasb: just bad judgement i guess rpenrose [3d\]: yeah also not close LeT63 [-\]: I would like to be humiliated this way teoabasb: s/m? Muadhdib [16k\]: 2-3 is close LeT63 [-\]: :-) LeT63 [-\]: try Artem heywardbey [2d\]: lol heywardbey [2d\]: this is a weird game heywardbey [2d\]: seems so square D: fungg [10k\]: this is real game?! heywardbey [2d\]: i think 9.5 is alot heywardbey [2d\]: i only consider anything (6.5)komi or less close heywardbey [2d\]: 9 points is about the size of an average corner ])