(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[15/300 Canadian] GN[Iasi Cup 2010 round 5 board 1]PW[Artem Kachanovskyj]PB[Ali Jabarin]WR[7d]BR[5d]DT[2010-08-29]PC[Iasi, Romania]US[HW9x9]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game and betting on the next move on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 ] ;B[pd] ;W[dd]C[eyeless [1d\]: good rival matchup Shenron [1d\]: b's kgs nick? ] ;B[pq]C[eyeless [1d\]: yoohoo or something eyeless [1d\]: sorry i forgetted how its spelling is ] ;W[eq]C[dualraum [-\]: yay for 5-3 eyeless [1d\]: it is an interesting fuseki w employs eyeless [1d\]: seems to balance pretty good with the standard lower right approach on the chinese palinka [2d?\]: Harry,can we find the results somewhere? ] ;B[cp] ;W[qo]C[dualraum [-\]: So b decided againnst Q9 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: bubu is working on it palinka [2d?\]: :) EuroGoTV1 [-\]: http://clubuldegoiasi.ro eyeless [1d\]: isnt r9 more popular than q9? ] ;B[op] ;W[jq]C[dualraum [-\]: With Q16 and Q3 on the 4th line (from right border) Q9 seems to be the better choice. eyeless [1d\]: i never liked high chinese or san rensei because its not balanced ] ;B[ql]C[eyeless [1d\]: you must be a moyo liker dualraum [-\]: I like it for the symmetry ] ;W[dn]C[dualraum [-\]: It's more... "aesthetically pleasing" dualraum [-\]: And now the taisha! Shuusaku would be so proud! Shenron [1d\]: b may play q6 Shenron [1d\]: but maybe that is wrong eyeless [1d\]: i wouldnt rush to play q6 dualraum [-\]: E4 is the most common answer I believe. Shenron [1d\]: yeah too many on right hosainogo: you can find the results here: http://desprego.ro dualraum [-\]: Escaper! :b eyeless [1d\]: c5 maybe eyeless [1d\]: im worried about the k3 stone cramps e4 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the Iasi Cup 2010 will start (accounts EuroGoTV1 and 2 later also EuroGoTV3 as that account will relay the FINAL of the Romanian Masters) EuroGoTV1 [-\]: oeps EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game and betting on the next move on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 hosainogo: harry, when starts game 3 of the final? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: in 50 minutes i think hosainogo: ty ] ;B[ep] ;W[dp] ;B[do] ;W[dq] ;B[eo] ;W[co] ;B[cn] ;W[bo] ;B[dm] ;W[gq]C[eyeless [1d\]: dang eyeless [1d\]: this position eyeless [1d\]: w result was so good dualraum [-\]: too bad b had the ladder ] ;B[en] ;W[bp]C[eyeless [1d\]: i just looked it up dualraum [-\]: C5 instead of E5 is so much more fun eyeless [1d\]: e4 d4 d5 d3 c5 connect and e5 e6 counter atari instead of extend eyeless [1d\]: because k3 stone makes extend bad ] ;B[fc] ;W[cf]C[dualraum [-\]: But w started it and knew b had the choice because of Q16. ] ;B[dg]C[eyeless [1d\]: looks like many pros chose the variation i put on there eyeless [1d\]: w just got alot of solid points ] ;W[cg]C[eyeless [1d\]: SUPER BOY!!!!! eyeless [1d\]: nice zooms ] ;B[di] ;W[eg] ;B[eh] ;W[df] ;B[fg] ;W[dh] ;B[ef] ;W[ei] ;B[dg]C[eyeless [1d\]: woah ] ;W[ch] ;B[fi] ;W[ej] ;B[fj] ;W[ee]C[Oloril [2k\]: Points are over rated. ] ;B[ek]C[mikan [1d\]: What is this tournament? eyeless [1d\]: lasi cup. canadian byo yomi eyeless [1d\]: whats the time on the byo yomi? Oloril [2k\]: 5 minutes per 15 stones it would appear. eyeless [1d\]: i like how thigs are going for the w ] ;W[ff] ;B[dj] ;W[gf]C[eyeless [1d\]: this b is just overconcentrated Shenron [1d\]: thanks eurogotv1, goodnight 2:30 am here ] ;B[ic]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^ ] ;W[kc] ;B[db]C[Oloril [2k\]: Really? I better go find that game fast! eyeless [1d\]: yeah this game moved quicly eyeless [1d\]: what other than o17 scottw1919 [7k\]: jump to the middle eyeless [1d\]: like l15? scottw1919 [7k\]: o17 is bad eyeless [1d\]: oh tohnoakiha [6k?\]: hey does anyone know the schedule for the romanian finals eyeless [1d\]: why tho scottw1919 [7k\]: black p17 eyeless [1d\]: o17 p17 o16 ? eyeless [1d\]: still w can get r17 u know ] ;W[gb]C[whiteswan [9k\]: isn't artem 9dan on kgs? Hello [1k\]: o17 is slow? Oloril [2k\]: 7k >> 1d, give up eyeless :) eyeless [1d\]: hey oloril no rankism! whiteswan [9k\]: OLO, trolling here? Oloril [2k\]: I troll everywhere. scottw1919 [7k\]: black would get good result on the right whiteswan [9k\]: making the game faster pls Mig [7k\]: seems too agressive eyeless [1d\]: i guess after o17 p17 o16 q14 instead of r14 tho huh Oloril [2k\]: Whiteswan, they are thinking carefully about this, no need to rush them. whiteswan [9k\]: kidding whiteswan [9k\]: eyeless, actually all people are watching the game aussiemate [8k\]: h16 might be a good spot for B to play scottw1919 [7k\]: y thats what i would read eyeless [1d\]: maybe g17 h18 f18 h17 h16 j18 c17 eyeless [1d\]: gooooo aussiemate!!!! NorthWind [5k\]: good morning trolls eyeless [1d\]: i think b did play h16 whiteswan [9k\]: is Ali from Israel? ] ;B[hd]C[eyeless [1d\]: looking at the board on the vid Oloril [2k\]: Aussie is now officially romanian 5d. shayanwe [?\]: where is the stream of this? =O eyeless [1d\]: nice prediction whiteswan [9k\]: flatter jamal [1k\]: i think w is ok rpenrose [3d\]: what is ali jabarin's handle on KGS? whiteswan [9k\]: I remember aussie is kgs shodan MadKongo [3d\]: OHHAH aussiemate [8k\]: at least NorthWind [5k\]: yes OohAah rpenrose [3d\]: thanks eyeless [1d\]: oh yea jabarin is oohaah whiteswan [9k\]: everytime when I see aussie the 2 stars are in my eyes eyeless [1d\]: i said yoohoo earlier aussiemate [8k\]: only 2 stars? eyeless [1d\]: c18? whiteswan [9k\]: I can't pluck too many , other stars are belong to you aussiemate [8k\]: thanx whiteswan [9k\]: :)) aussiemate [8k\]: ☺ whiteswan [9k\]: good gentleman whiteswan [9k\]: could someone tell me if Ali from Israel? NorthWind [5k\]: yes xDragon [?\]: yup eyeless [1d\]: c18 d17 o17 ? lyflu: where is ali from? Oloril [2k\]: The future. whiteswan [9k\]: ic, he is half Israel jamal [1k\]: g17 whiteswan [9k\]: one half of muslim aussiemate [8k\]: which half? lyflu: so he's israeli? ] ;W[nc]C[xDragon [?\]: top half eyeless [1d\]: i wouldnt play g17 against even a bot eyeless [1d\]: oh ok just o17 first MadKongo [3d\]: ali is israeli with a muslim religion andy1975 [1d\]: h17? whiteswan [9k\]: I have iSRAEl friends told meso andy1975 [1d\]: g 17 is ok whiteswan [9k\]: Ali is one half muslim MadKongo [3d\]: and other half... clafter: sounds like half pregnant whiteswan [9k\]: but Israel counts him as strongest ISrael player Oloril [2k\]: Looks like artem needs some lessons from our resident 7k's. Mig [7k\]: p 17 o16 k 15? MadKongo [3d\]: ... eyeless [1d\]: i dont know why g17 is ok whiteswan [9k\]: Ali's father is muslim MadKongo [3d\]: its a probe ] ;B[oc] ;W[nd]C[MadKongo [3d\]: so its o.k ] ;B[pf]C[eyeless [1d\]: its not a probe eyeless [1d\]: g17 you already know b will block at g16 MadKongo [3d\]: o.k... Oloril [2k\]: Yeah, probes mine minerals and warp in buildings. rpenrose [3d\]: haha eyeless [1d\]: mmmm warp whiteswan [9k\]: Olo is always very naughty dualraum [-\]: 100 years ago they were citing Shakespeare and Goethe, now it has come down to starcraft. -_- whiteswan [9k\]: now the hottest is ghost moveis eyeless [1d\]: yea i guess w should p5 by now eyeless [1d\]: j15 good point eyeless [1d\]: c18 good point johnny [4k\]: W s3 eyeless [1d\]: r17 good point NorthWind [5k\]: prob W will attack h16 in some way whiteswan [9k\]: romanian? Pop game? whiteswan [9k\]: I got 2 eyes only xDragon [?\]: pop and catalin whiteswan [9k\]: what could I do? eyeless [1d\]: i just watch one of em eyeless [1d\]: this one whiteswan [9k\]: I like Pop since I met him xDragon [?\]: im watching both whiteswan [9k\]: dragon, you just gave me good idea eyeless [1d\]: pop beat catalin last game! eyeless [1d\]: catalin almost always beats pop whiteswan [9k\]: catalin must be happy for that xDragon [?\]: wenw with r17 it looks like ] ;W[qc]C[eyeless [1d\]: really pop has bad aisho against catalin. its not just strength eyeless [1d\]: ok yea this move is real proby ] ;B[ob]C[masek [?\]: пойдемте товарищи в клон ] ;W[qe] ;B[pe] ;W[qf]C[eyeless [1d\]: make sense to do that and get b comitted before deciding on something eyeless [1d\]: now w can look at r10 to threaten p5 forcefully eyeless [1d\]: or just go p5 more forcefully maybe EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 sushisan [4d\]: hehe both real greedy eyeless [1d\]: wooo stomach cancer! eyeless [1d\]: b r13? ] ;B[qd] ;W[rd] ;B[rc] ;W[rb]C[strong10k [-\]: i dont think artem ever loses ] ;B[qg]C[sushisan [4d\]: typically, in a game like this both players pass up the opportunity to play simple yet effective moves NorthWind [5k\]: seal him in looks good sushisan [4d\]: instead trying to outcomplicate each other eyeless [1d\]: i am interested in your simple yet effective moves strong10k [-\]: artem generally perfers to play simple moves johnny [4k\]: is this game still going on??? NorthWind [5k\]: sure rpenrose [3d\]: sometimes the really complicated variation results in 3% gain sushisan [4d\]: if i were b, i would want to play around K18 jerk [9k?\]: Artem still undefeated? rpenrose [3d\]: but is just really easy to mess up if you're not high dan lexansoft [3k\]: u like math penrose ;) sushisan [4d\]: for w, F18 is a huge move rpenrose [3d\]: for sure lexansoft ] ;W[sc] ;B[rg]C[eyeless [1d\]: w is so territorial sushisan [4d\]: artem may like simple moves, but R17 is quite greedy at this point sushisan [4d\]: as if w doesn't have enough terr eyeless [1d\]: w is sente tho NorthWind [5k\]: well he got some points and sente so I guess it worked ] ;W[oo]C[rpenrose [3d\]: yeah, he doesn't need to defend right away leachy [5k\]: those two stones meaningless for life and death sushisan [4d\]: hah. it's only sente because b answered Riyadh94: waw ] ;B[no] ;W[on] ;B[qp]C[eyeless [1d\]: w can defend as soon as b wil want to protect q13 but not before strong10k [-\]: big though rpenrose [3d\]: eyeless is right ] ;W[ro]C[Riyadh94: Where from ali ? Porkypine [4k\]: Is there a site where we can see player profiles? I've never heard of Ali Jabarin before strong10k [-\]: romania i guess rpenrose [3d\]: no he's from Israel EuroGoTV1 [-\]: fcheck out the EuroGoTV news@!!!! leachy [5k\]: i don't know if ali using his finger on the table (not board) is a good method of reading EuroGoTV1 [-\]: check out strong10k [-\]: what is a guy from isreal doing in romaina tournament rpenrose [3d\]: well, artem is from the Ukraine EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Earning money rpenrose [3d\]: so they're both carpetbaggers :-) Riyadh94: Waw Ukranie VS ISrael?? NorthWind [5k\]: he likes to travel ? eyeless [1d\]: jabarin is also a sandbagger EuroGoTV2 [-\]: the winner takes 750 euro rpenrose [3d\]: yeah, Ukraine vs. Israel rpenrose [3d\]: that's a nice prize pool eyeless [1d\]: sporting that 5d rank strong10k [-\]: ali is 7d kgs, artem is like 8.9d kgs ] ;B[mp]C[jerk [9k?\]: I think EGTV is in the bag for Artem. xDragon [?\]: lot of stuff going on this weekend rpenrose [3d\]: yeah man rpenrose [3d\]: all of these Go events xDragon [?\]: usually nothing and then bam 3 in a weekend EuroGoTV2 [-\]: We are waiting you all next year at IASI Romania for the 2nd edition strong10k [-\]: how much first place get? ] ;W[ol]C[rpenrose [3d\]: yeah, we'll charter a plane from America Riyadh94: waw,IASI JUst 4 Romania player ??? ] ;B[qj]C[NorthWind [5k\]: I am learning some Romanian geography at least eyeless [1d\]: r10 defends against w s9 ] ;W[mm]C[jerk [9k?\]: Obviously not if Ali is playing. lyflu: are they gonna show ilya's run at the pro test soon? xDragon [?\]: neither player here is romanian strong10k [-\]: k18 eyeless [1d\]: hehe jabarin worried about points eyeless [1d\]: fingering at the lower right corner ] ;B[rq]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: did you guys see the photo of Artem on EuroGoTV-News? strong10k [-\]: bad pokerface eyeless [1d\]: b got off to a bad start imho Riyadh94: I see Arthem goona win ? ] ;W[dc]C[eyeless [1d\]: the overconcentration on right of board xDragon [?\]: while i was away artem jumped in strength somehow Porkypine [4k\]: He studied xDragon [?\]: when i took a break he was barely 8d. now almost 9d droid [4k\]: funny picture eurogo :) Afro [2k\]: c18 Maulwurf [-\]: @EurogoTV1: lol... that photo is cool XD EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^ eyeless [1d\]: d17 is better than c18 jerk [9k?\]: EGTV more biased than FOX news. Afro [2k\]: there is a stone on d17 NorthWind [5k\]: yes I went to look o_o Porkypine [4k\]: Ali blinks a lot eyeless [1d\]: b cant play c18 or e18 is good ] ;B[fb] ;W[cb]C[xDragon [?\]: is it just me or does kid in green shirt look a lot like artem jerk [9k?\]: B's position seems better. scottw1919 [7k\]: it seems like b is playing for territory but most of his stones are 4,5,6 lines ] ;B[ke]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 eyeless [1d\]: so b made this taisha variation with k3 on the board. playing e5 to take upper ponnuki instead of c5 e5 e6 variation eyeless [1d\]: and it doesnt seem to be smmooth cause of b hoshi in upper left HKitty [2d\]: im too weak to understand what eyeless is talking about ;(......... xDragon [?\]: how much time they have left? ali seems short RyuuGan [1k\]: looks like 5 and about 15 RyuuGan [1k\]: b 5 ] ;W[lf]C[NorthWind [5k\]: it will be interesting to see Artem defend o16 which is open at the bottom HKitty [2d\]: M14 looks like he is inviting an attack eyeless [1d\]: b needs to make the attack work or lose game ] ;B[kf]C[eyeless [1d\]: possible to manouvre spliting attack with p8 aussiemate [8k\]: Ali is tired adsf [3d\]: yeah he keep yawning loudly~ ] ;W[le]C[kenshin9 [4k\]: mm is it absolute time ? rpenrose [3d\]: artem has really good concentration HKitty [2d\]: no kenshin9 [4k\]: then how does clock work ? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 HKitty [2d\]: I mean its not absolute time eyeless [1d\]: q13 aji looks helpful to a shinogi effort EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 15 stones 5 minutes rpenrose [3d\]: how much time have they used so far? NorthWind [5k\]: no ken, it's not played on KGS, it's relayed ] ;B[lg] ;W[kd]C[kenshin9 [4k\]: there is death in hane... yoyoma [1d\]: kenshin I'm guessing since they have analog clock they will probably use old-school canadian overtime eyeless [1d\]: my hanes smell like death kenshin9 [4k\]: ive never played go in real life i was just wondering ._. ] ;B[mg]C[HKitty [2d\]: lol ] ;W[je]C[HKitty [2d\]: I wonder how strong the strongest player who never played go in real life is rpenrose [3d\]: now g18 is awesome eyeless [1d\]: k15 nice kenshin9 [4k\]: 4k :P eyeless [1d\]: w lived so easy rpenrose [3d\]: I heard a story that a 6d at the US Go Congress didn't know how to count because he'd only ever played online HKitty [2d\]: cool strong10k [-\]: i call bs strong10k [-\]: he just lazy NorthWind [5k\]: HKitty, my bet is next generation never see a wooden board rpenrose [3d\]: haha EuroGoTV1 [-\]: overtime started for Al;i EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Ali rpenrose [3d\]: is artem in overtime yet? xDragon [?\]: artem still has 15 min rpenrose [3d\]: k strong10k [-\]: even a 3 year old can count, doubt a 6d cant ] ;B[jf]C[rpenrose [3d\]: oh, not that he couldn't, just hadn't learned adsf [3d\]: well I wouldn't know how to move the stones since I never actualy did it, although I did read how to do it eyeless [1d\]: w can just j15 i think HKitty [2d\]: their are players who get freaked out when the stones are re arranged for Japanese counting because they have never seen it done herbs: haha adsf [3d\]: aren't they moved for chinese counting too? eyeless [1d\]: now p6 stones are so annoying you cant attack em easy rpenrose [3d\]: yeah for both types strong10k [-\]: i perfer online go over irl go anyday ] ;W[ie]C[eyeless [1d\]: w seemed to win this game natural as breathing kenshin9 [4k\]: p10 looks good enough xDragon [?\]: really, i prefer live go strong10k [-\]: gets your hand dirty xDragon [?\]: online bores me strong10k [-\]: and people take forever to make a move rpenrose [3d\]: 95%+ prefer live go ] ;B[jd]C[strong10k [-\]: older population maybe NorthWind [5k\]: 90% of statistics are made up :) EuroGoTV1 [-\]: all in wildaxt [4k\]: j18 kenshin9 [4k\]: in missouri, only like 5 people know how to play go ): EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 Djaian [-\]: The only good point of online go is that you can get the kifu of your game without having to remember it (or to write it down during the game). For all the rest, real go is better. eyeless [1d\]: k17 j16 j18 and b crubmels rpenrose [3d\]: hmm kenshin9 [4k\]: i see lifr mabe ] ;W[ib]C[aussiemate [8k\]: is Missouri a very small state? eyeless [1d\]: k17 j16 j18 h14 g16 strong10k [-\]: alot of people can remmeber their games wildaxt [4k\]: ;) eyeless [1d\]: or pushing out is threaten to eat at l13 xDragon [?\]: missouri is pretty sizable aussie kenshin9 [4k\]: missouri has a few hudred thousand people i think HKitty [2d\]: maybe b should have played C18 when afro said he should and taken the corner in exchange for toruble on the upper side LeT63 [-\]: w grabs the three stones eyeless [1d\]: maybe its better suji to play direct at j18 NorthWind [5k\]: and a big river wildaxt [4k\]: if black didnt see that coming im dissappointed ] ;B[jb] ;W[hc]C[strong10k [-\]: you can play online go wearing underwear and eatting cheetos, irl go you have to be atleast presentable rpenrose [3d\]: nice! I didn't see h17 kenshin9 [4k\]: ouch and over O: jerk [9k?\]: Stop trolling, strong10k. NorthWind [5k\]: strong, get some clothes on ! *averts eyes* eyeless [1d\]: b resign already? adsf [3d\]: it's amazing how focused artem is. HKitty [2d\]: I looked at the Tournament in Finland and whether or not the players were presentable is debatalble... rpenrose [3d\]: yeah Porkypine [4k\]: Artem artem you're a super heroooo xDragon [?\]: falling behind harry ] ;B[he]C[eyeless [1d\]: ouch this artem is killing em bad ] ;W[if] ;B[hb]C[HKitty [2d\]: ? ] ;W[ha] ;B[gc]C[kenshin9 [4k\]: i hate superheros after seeing that kick a movie kenshin9 [4k\]: ._. Porkypine [4k\]: black looks like he has some serious time issues lol praeludium [5d\]: connect is ok? eyeless [1d\]: pal played a good game against him yersterday tho eyeless [1d\]: i think connect is ok rpenrose [3d\]: yeah connecting is fine xDragon [?\]: pal took 40 minutes on 1 move. i dont know why he does that so often rpenrose [3d\]: I don't understand what he's thinking about shakti [-\]: pal lost? eatramen [20k\]: lol Porkypine [4k\]: pal lost against artem, of course. ] ;W[ig]C[Porkypine [4k\]: Everyone loses against artem <3 ] ;B[hb]C[Porkypine [4k\]: oh :O ] ;W[kg]C[jerk [9k?\]: You need to catch up on sleep some time. ] ;B[ia]C[shakti [-\]: pal beats pro sometimes so you never know rpenrose [3d\]: hmm eyeless [1d\]: why not connect rpenrose [3d\]: well this way was sente I guess LEIBNIZ [3k\]: H18 seemed ok to me :/ eyeless [1d\]: i guess w is ahead enough rpenrose [3d\]: yeah it worked eyeless [1d\]: yeah jerk [9k?\]: B lose now. ] ;W[pk] ;B[qk]C[Porkypine [4k\]: White has some magic planned rpenrose [3d\]: white probably liked the whole board position of this move better rpenrose [3d\]: hard to see black winning now Porkypine [4k\]: look at Artem being nice <3 giving forcing moves so ali doesn't run out of time mcc: b win Porkypine [4k\]: such a gentleman ] ;W[oi]C[jerk [9k?\]: Are you female? ] ;B[re] ;W[og]C[kenshin9 [4k\]: s15? Porkypine [4k\]: No, I'm just a fan of good manners ] ;B[kr]C[rpenrose [3d\]: l2 is gigantic rpenrose [3d\]: or n2 for white ] ;W[kj] ;B[me]C[Pingu007 [2d\]: are they in bioyomi now? ] ;W[ne]C[strong10k [-\]: {Girls} ∩ {People on the Internet} = ∅. ] ;B[mf] ;W[jg]C[Moiraine7 [4k\]: math 12! ahhhhh ] ;B[nk]C[rpenrose [3d\]: hahaha that equation is correct ] ;W[mj]C[rpenrose [3d\]: they're disjoint sets kenshin9 [4k\]: o9 = resignation Mig [7k\]: did you write the road to reality, rpenrose? Porkypine [4k\]: Canadian byo-yomi is so userhostile jerk [9k?\]: How? Moiraine7 [4k\]: oh? Djaian [-\]: s15 was already a "I resign soon" move rpenrose [3d\]: the real Roger Penrose did :-) mcc: eurogo time left? pls LEIBNIZ [3k\]: great book ] ;B[ni] ;W[pj]C[Mig [7k\]: i ve found too hard some chapters berdsk [-\]: черный приплыл уже, или нет еще? jerk [9k?\]: "I've found some chapters too hard"* lexansoft [3k\]: looks over. no? Porkypine [4k\]: one more round after this right? rpenrose [3d\]: it's a hard book to read cover to cover Mig [7k\]: thanks, my language is spanish, not english NorthWind [5k\]: Artem the bandit has stolen all B's cash jerk [9k?\]: I understand, I was just correcting you so you knew. ^^ EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 ] ;B[nj] ;W[ll] ;B[li] ;W[lj]C[Moiraine7 [4k\]: im confused jerk [9k?\]: Well, W managed his two groups nicely... eyeless [1d\]: b is just playing inside until he dies and then resign EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+R eyeless [1d\]: cause w had too many points Mig [7k\]: i m a math teacher, but i think it covers a lot of topics thet very few people can handle easily Moiraine7 [4k\]: resign now =) rpenrose [3d\]: are you a teacher at the college level? eyeless [1d\]: dominating game Mig [7k\]: university rpenrose [3d\]: ah, cool eyeless [1d\]: artem suggested b c5 instead of e4 rpenrose [3d\]: the ICM was held in Spain last time strong10k [-\]: everyone on kgs is a math major ])