(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[15/300 Canadian]
GN[Iasi Cup 2010 final round 6 board 1]PW[Artem Kachanovskyj]PB[Mihai Serban]WR[7d]BR[4d]DT[2010-08-29]PC[Iasi, Romania]US[HW9x9]C[Shedal [2d\]: So Mihai won Corlan?
Shedal [2d\]: Sounds like a strong 4d :-)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, very talented
Stefany93 [13k\]: What nationality is Serban?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Romanian
BurzoS [1d?\]: romanian
Shedal [2d\]: How old is he?
BurzoS [1d?\]: can anyone give me a link with results?
Shedal [2d\]: http://desprego.ro/
]
;B[qd]
;W[dp]C[Karnesun [5d\]: 16
pafy [3k?\]: hai mihai
Karnesun [5d\]: Сербану 16
gfdhff [4k\]: easy win
Karnesun [5d\]: Кстати, Дима, я же с ним боролся за чемпионство в Европе до 18)
pafy [3k?\]: its not real
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;B[cd]C[Stefany93 [13k\]: Karnesun, how many people you have in your clan?
]
;W[qo]C[Karnesun [5d\]: My clan is offline now
Karnesun [5d\]: Дима, кстати, когда я спросил его сколько ему лет - он сказал, что 16, я спросил его: "Когда у тебя День Рождения?", а он ответил: "24 апреля"
Karnesun [5d\]: Я просто офигел, потому что у меня День Рождения 23 апреля
Karnesun [5d\]: ))
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;B[oc]C[eyeless [1d\]: i dont know serbian
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;W[ed]C[eyeless [1d\]: maybe he is very strong
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;B[ec]
;W[fc]
;B[dc]
;W[gd]C[eyeless [1d\]: looks like a young guy
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;B[cf]
;W[kc]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Stefany93 [13k\]: Thank you Harry
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
GoShinobi [-\]: oh b tries to play a solid teritory game 
GoShinobi [-\]: exactly what artem loves to play usually
tonyp [2d\]: so what do people think?
eyeless [1d\]: its differet than people played against artem earlier
bartosz [-\]: can someone give link to the results and standings?
eyeless [1d\]: he was up against lotsa moyoers
tonyp [2d\]: B would love to play Q10
GoShinobi [-\]: nope
GoShinobi [-\]: q3 or something
from2ch [4k\]: I love P3
eyeless [1d\]: i think q10 looks very good
eyeless [1d\]: b can aim on j17 
GoShinobi [-\]: lol 
GoShinobi [-\]: not really
GoShinobi [-\]: h17 normal invasion point
eyeless [1d\]: i meant h17 sorry
Shedal [2d\]: So many people wandering around... must be really annoying
GoShinobi [-\]: and q10 has not much to do with it 
eyeless [1d\]: it does have an effect on it
Stefany93 [13k\]: I hope Mihai will win!
Shedal [2d\]: R5 is rather unusual for Artem
gfdhff [4k\]: nah Stefany93
Stefany93 [13k\]: Mihai will win, I am sure of it!
eyeless [1d\]: artems been doing r5 alot
GoShinobi [-\]: yes 
GoShinobi [-\]: in this tournament
GoShinobi [-\]: before not so often 
eyeless [1d\]: i thought it was to avoid kobayashi but b played mukai komoku here
GoShinobi [-\]: hm very hard for mihai to win 
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;B[fq]C[GoShinobi [-\]: artem probably too strong
Shedal [2d\]: everything is possible here. Guys, just let them play and do their best
Shedal [2d\]: And — GO, Artem!!!
Shedal [2d\]: :)
eyeless [1d\]: yeah i dont know anything about b player but he is young and 4d may be underrating for him
eyeless [1d\]: w cannot let his guard down
Fukurokuji [2k\]: dont underestimate your opponent and respect him/her..thats what artem says..
Shedal [2d\]: sure it is underrated. He won 6d's
Djaian [-\]: Black won against Cornel, but Cornel seemed to play really badly this tournament
Djaian [-\]: so difficult to say what is black real strength
LovroKlc [-\]: W is the strongest in Europe, B has no chance
Shedal [2d\]: How did Cornel's game with Bohdan go?
eyeless [1d\]: artem vs cornel this tornament = lauzon vs ruediger
Fukurokuji [2k\]: i want to see artem vs catalin..
fujisensei [2d?\]: me too, cornel has lose again artem yesterday
eyeless [1d\]: artem also dominated jabarin today
eyeless [1d\]: pal game was close
Shedal [2d\]: yeah, the last ko decided the outcome
eyeless [1d\]: how many rounds is there on lasi cup
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;W[cn]C[Djaian [-\]: this is the last round
Fukurokuji [2k\]: b wants q3
Iciac [5k\]: I'm sure w wouldn't mind it either.
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;B[dr]
;W[gq]C[eyeless [1d\]: i gess if oh
Fukurokuji [2k\]: b suprised
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
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;B[gp]
;W[hq]C[juj: artem looks tired or bored or both
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;B[ep]C[holynec [?\]: d2!
BigJimBeef [6k\]: he was playing online not long ago, maybe he is tired
juj: d2 - a bit of play on top of the stones -tesuji
Djaian [-\]: Artem is always like this, nothing unusual
BigJimBeef [6k\]: Why is he fighting a 4d with no handicap?
Baal1 [16k\]: it's funny some are very still, and some constand move arround
Fukurokuji [2k\]: its a tournament bigjim..
eyeless [1d\]: cause its not a handicap tournament
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;W[dq]C[BigJimBeef [6k\]: Hmmm, i didnt know that. Thanks for the info
marfg [2k\]: is this joseki?
bfm [-\]: yes
eyeless [1d\]: handi tournaments probably only really work within local club
eyeless [1d\]: or online maybe
Academic [5k\]: e4 incorrect?
GoShinobi [-\]: yes
lamarea [4d\]: someone should tell this mihai serban to stop looking for gold 
bartosz [-\]: its joseki
GoShinobi [-\]: not joseki
lamarea [4d\]: lol
bartosz [-\]: according to kogos
eyeless [1d\]: e4 is a variation
GoShinobi [-\]: only joseki with c6 on d6
goth [?\]: stie cineva cum s-a terminat partida decisiva Taranu-Pop?
GoShinobi [-\]: usually you play e4 on f2 or h4
GoShinobi [-\]: if the stone is on c6
Academic [5k\]: yeah, i like h4
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;B[cr]C[eyeless [1d\]: i have seen f4 also
GoShinobi [-\]: yes
MrFofi [3d\]: a cistigat cata
GoShinobi [-\]: also possible
bartosz [-\]: e5 now
goth [?\]: mersi
juj: black is going to get hurt
Excalibor [-\]: we have a handi tournament in Spain with a lot of success... many people are from the same club, but it still works pretty fine
marfg [2k\]: b running for 3. corner...
Academic [5k\]: f2 ?
GoShinobi [-\]: artem will punish b proabably
eyeless [1d\]: f2 e2 e3 f4 g2 and d5 miai
maciek [2d\]: is it a joseki moves?
Shedal [2d\]: E5
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: seems like b is fine
Excalibor [-\]: maybe black wanted something to end up in sente to play r10?
GoShinobi [-\]: i think he just missed something
eyeless [1d\]: w can b4 or something
Shedal [2d\]: W E5 is a joseki
eyeless [1d\]: ohh ok
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;W[er]C[Shedal [2d\]: :o
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: f2
Nefeste [5k\]: f2
Iciac [5k\]: nasty :)
wildaxt [4k\]: why not f2 oO
Shedal [2d\]: F2 is a mistake
Academic [5k\]: eyeless [1d\]: f2 e2 e3 f4 g2 and d5 miai
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;B[fr]
;W[eq]C[marfg [2k\]: why?
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;B[es]
;W[eo]
;B[fp]
;W[bq]C[Shedal [2d\]: marfg, look here: http://eidogo.com/
Iciac [5k\]: clone the game and play it out
marfg [2k\]: ok...
marfg [2k\]: thanks
eyeless [1d\]: i really prefer the other variatio of this for b to this
maciek [2d\]: black is like a snake now
NorthWind [5k\]: is Serban Russian ?
Iciac [5k\]: k3?
eyeless [1d\]: but i guess w has som probs kinda
Shedal [2d\]: He's Romanian
GoShinobi [-\]: romanian i suppose
eyeless [1d\]: this is one of em bad for both kinda positions
NorthWind [5k\]: ok
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;B[ip]C[Shedal [2d\]: B D5 can take corner
Arcticwolf [-\]: Has Artem won all the games so far?
NorthWind [5k\]: yes 5/5
marfg [2k\]: tricky joseki
Shedal [2d\]: is that at all a joseki?
dutch2dan [2d?\]: Mihai on 4:1?
eyeless [1d\]: w could decide to play c5 after b d5 to deny b eye
eyeless [1d\]: there is some outside action tho
olly [2k\]: Can I see the results table of this tournament ?
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;W[iq]C[lgiulian [1k\]: http://desprego.ro/cupa-iasului-si-romanian-masters/
olly [2k\]: thx
lgiulian [1k\]: only 4 rounds displayed
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;B[jp]C[jokep [10k\]: what about an invasion around O3?
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;W[jq]C[eyeless [1d\]: maybe j3 should be k3
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;B[kp]C[GoShinobi [-\]: jump
misha91 [2d\]: m3 
eyeless [1d\]: k3 instead of j3 was interesting to me
GoShinobi [-\]: not really
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;W[kq]C[eyeless [1d\]: cause the ladder not work w could push through h4
uhoh [1k\]: n
andg99 [?\]: big game on, smartrobot-ericsson
eyeless [1d\]: this is big game too
GoShinobi [-\]: but b could just play j3 and then h4
GoShinobi [-\]: and w is very flat
eyeless [1d\]: yea well w is pretty flat anyway
NorthWind [5k\]: why not L3 at m3 ?
eyeless [1d\]: i guess this way w can go h4 later at least to make some weakness
Florian [1d\]: hane?
Djaian [-\]: I don't understand why Artem is pulling out this stones, now he is pushing from behind with a group that will not make many points
eyeless [1d\]: m3 n3 i think florian
eyeless [1d\]: cause h4 push aji
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;B[lp]
;W[mq]C[eyeless [1d\]: w stones with 6 libs there are able to win semeais
juj: white wants to keep pressure on an eyeless group
Drakar [14k\]: how about h4?
]
;B[gn]
;W[mp]C[Florian [1d\]: eyeless m3 m4 m3 imho b wins semeai
fbp [6d\]: c8
eyeless [1d\]: what florian?
eyeless [1d\]: m3 n3 m2 m4 is the sequence i was talking about
eyeless [1d\]: b m3 stones will be eaten
]
;B[cl]
;W[dl]C[eyeless [1d\]: either that or then j3 stones or f4 stones eaten
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;B[dk]
;W[el]C[berdsk [-\]: who is leading in tournament?
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;B[cm]C[marfg [2k\]: christian artem taranu.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: see EuroGoTV-News
eyeless [1d\]: m3 n3 m2 m4 n4 m5 o3 h4 h5 j5 k5 g5 k6 f5 and w has more libs 
NorthWind [5k\]: Mr Kachanovsky 
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;W[dn]
;B[gl]
;W[fk]C[Totti10 [4k\]: does b play on kgs?
Randomgu1 [6k\]: I know Artem does but idk about b
nendo [16k\]: roma merdaaaaaaaa... grande cesenaaaaaaaaa
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;B[dj]C[Lebowski [1k\]: Blacks nicname is : Mihi
]
;W[eg]C[NorthWind [5k\]: B seems to have started well no ? not losing yet
jokep [10k\]: and Whites nick?
gfdhff [4k\]: artem92
jokep [10k\]: zhx
GoShinobi [-\]: b got a lot of teritory
GoShinobi [-\]: doing not so bad
Totti10 [4k\]: itd be more surprising if he was obviously losing at this point imo
Daoloth [-\]: b central group not so good
eyeless [1d\]: b center is fine
]
;B[dh]C[LEIBNIZ [3k\]: b never gets to play sente
GoShinobi [-\]: not strong ,but not weak 
eyeless [1d\]: b will make center stronger as d4 becomes stronger
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;W[hj]C[Djaian [-\]: black is fine, D12 is a very calm move, which means  he thinks he is not behind
GoShinobi [-\]: no d12 is just only move
juj: white's building up an attack already
Florian [1d\]: @eyeless: i missread b can only get unwinable ko
GoShinobi [-\]: at any time
juj: wN5 feels nice
atomix [1d\]: did mihai beat corlan in previous round?
mFz [3k\]: artem often play e13 move
Totti10 [4k\]: where should b invade lr corder or should he?
eyeless [1d\]: artem has very good suji
Iciac [5k\]: 3x3 seems like the best for a lower right invasion
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
eyeless [1d\]: i think that the vulnerability of b middle group is precluding action in lower right
NorthWind [5k\]: B g9 tempting
Lake [10k\]: +
cherisse [1k\]: hmm how many rounds is this?
juj: Iasi Go cup results are here http://clubuldegoiasi.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/CUPA-IASULUI.html
eyeless [1d\]: g9 is supposed to be bad suji
eyeless [1d\]: maybe j9?
Academic [5k\]: what does suji mean?
cherisse [1k\]: tesuji?
jokep [10k\]: aji?
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;B[fi]
;W[gh]C[eyeless [1d\]: the way you make your shapes and relation of other stones
Academic [5k\]: cool
NorthWind [5k\]: go ahead and describe why it's bad
Academic [5k\]: thx
eyeless [1d\]: its hard to describe why g9 is bad
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;B[gk]
;W[gj]
;B[fj]
;W[br]C[NorthWind [5k\]: haha, he played it !
Lake [10k\]: well here it went
eyeless [1d\]: no he didnt
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;B[jk]C[eyeless [1d\]: he played f11
eyeless [1d\]: ok i got a description
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;W[ji]C[eyeless [1d\]: if b went g9 first w would not repond to f11 by playing g12 would he
eyeless [1d\]: he would play f10 instead
NorthWind [5k\]: whatever, he got the cut
Totti10 [4k\]: in sente
]
;B[lj]C[Fukurokuji [2k\]: kghin, what do you think about the situation?
Farflame [1d\]: what is this for?
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;W[lh]C[Farflame [1d\]: b helping w to make terr
Baal1 [16k\]: do he want to conect to the corner?
eyeless [1d\]: northwind. its really hard tho sometimes push and cut on keima is the best move but often it isnt
Fukurokuji [2k\]: q3 big for w
O8 [2k\]: q3 too slow
NorthWind [5k\]: eyeless, just give up the idea of always being right :)
eyeless [1d\]: im usually not right. lol
eyeless [1d\]: but i like to say alot about the game cause i become more involved in it
NorthWind [5k\]: no problem
]
;B[lf]C[berdsk [-\]: Did Artem play with Taranu? And how?
]
;W[nh]
;B[ld]C[misha91 [2d\]: no
juj: I don't think Taranu is playing in the cup
]
;W[lc]
;B[md]C[Fukurokuji [2k\]: m8
BigJimBeef [6k\]: around r10  seems really open. any opinions on who will be the 1st to take advantage?
O8 [2k\]: play at the right corner
Iciac [5k\]: l16 
Altair [6k?\]: k 14
jokep [10k\]: N6 :P
SaveYou [1k\]: m8 looks interesting
]
;W[mn]
;B[lm]
;W[mm]C[Iciac [5k\]: 10k strong :)
jokep [10k\]: no :)
jokep [10k\]: im watching the video
SaveYou [1k\]: hehe))
SaveYou [1k\]: lol)
eyeless [1d\]: ah 
Porkypine [4k\]: it was played ages ago on the stream
Porkypine [4k\]: lol
NorthWind [5k\]: oh dear, W lower right corner becoming ominously large
jokep [10k\]: :)
eyeless [1d\]: blast you jokep
jokep [10k\]: hehe
duatiga4 [4k?\]: not good situation for b
eyeless [1d\]: your a real bad man u know that
]
;B[hc]
;W[gb]
;B[jd]C[jokep [10k\]: thanks :)
]
;W[jc]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
AJItated [9k?\]: l
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;B[jg]C[Farflame [1d\]: guess sansan no more possible in lower right
Shedal [2d\]: B wears a white T-shirt, W wears a black T-shirt
huggy [3k\]: very interesting observation
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;W[nj]C[Shedal [2d\]: thanks
fbp [6d\]: game over
eyeless [1d\]: w wears a SUPER BOY t shirt
SaveYou [1k\]: Ying and Yan )
fbp [6d\]: k13 exchanged with o10 is rly bad
eyeless [1d\]: zooooom
]
;B[id]
;W[hb]C[Baal1 [16k\]: cool
juj: heheh
Moyo3 [10k?\]: lol
eyeless [1d\]: :D
juj: what does it say on the left side of the shirt
NorthWind [5k\]: B r10 or so seems urgent to me
Porkypine [4k\]: Living seems pretty urgent too
zc3k [1k\]: K11 area is delicated?
SoulShadow [8k\]: super boy shirt broke the stream
Pingu007 [2d\]: yop
Farflame [1d\]: b could try to use m10 to some cut
eyeless [1d\]: too sooper
tonyp [2d\]: o9?
juj: wot? now I'm getting zhuyeqing tea go congress stream
]
;B[qj]
;W[ql]
;B[ph]
;W[rd]
;B[qe]
;W[qc]
;B[qb]C[eyeless [1d\]: lol now w is b against ilia
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Pingu007 [2d\]: yes
Pingu007 [2d\]: i dont understand whats happening??
Farflame [1d\]: :-)))
Farflame [1d\]: cool
Baal1 [16k\]: yeah same here too
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;W[qg]
;B[qh]
;W[pc]
;B[pb]
;W[pd]C[berdsk [-\]: doesnot matter
juj: someone crossed the streams
Mikki62 [1k\]: is there a way to live with r3?
juj: now it works
Baal1 [16k\]: yeah :D
Farflame [1d\]: we will see if ilia has helped
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry, it seems i stepped on a wire
Farflame [1d\]: :-)
SoulShadow [8k\]: lol
jokep [10k\]: :)
NorthWind [5k\]: tut tut
marfg [2k\]: w+7,5
]
;B[rb]
;W[pe]C[jokep [10k\]: options -> estimate result o.O
Totti10 [4k\]: b in bad shape
ManOfLOL [-\]: damn its laggy
juj: jokep: yeah, white not doing good, but look how much territory he's making with all those dead stones!
]
;B[pg]C[jokep [10k\]: lol
berdsk [-\]: where is bad shame?
fountain [2k\]: why artem is playing with such a weak player?;p
Ph1xi3 [-\]: Even the weak may have streaks.
ManOfLOL [-\]: lol artem's got a nice shirt
Baal1 [16k\]: he's on the fourthplay maybe that's why
Shedal [2d\]: Because this "weak" player has beaten many strong players
Baal1 [16k\]: fourth place
mmmd [1k?\]: mor like he played the 5 stronger players before ^^
fountain [2k\]: i see
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;W[rg]
;B[re]
;W[rc]C[Farflame [1d\]: looks w will live after capturing
Shedal [2d\]: or connect
eyeless [1d\]: b seems too thin
AJItated [9k?\]: l
]
;B[sc]
;W[se]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+R
Shedal [2d\]: nice
berdsk [-\]: omg
Shedal [2d\]: Say him "Vitayu!"
Shedal [2d\]: Please!
fountain [2k\]: it was fast
eyeless [1d\]: artem does it again!
Totti10 [4k\]: when does artem play next?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Artem won the Iasi Cup 2010 undefeated
eyeless [1d\]: but b is a good player.
Totti10 [4k\]: oh that was it?
Kizu [?\]: congratulations to artem!
Farflame [1d\]: thx eurogo!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+R
Totti10 [4k\]: congrats
Shedal [2d\]: cool
eyeless [1d\]: this was the last round?
Totti10 [4k\]: ask artem to wave to the camera ^^
eyeless [1d\]: looking forward to seeing b play in more events
eyeless [1d\]: mihai have kgs account?
Kizu [?\]: yes, its Mihi
eyeless [1d\]: ah thanks
pebarefoot [-\]: I don'y see a livestream for EuroGo! on the website?
pebarefoot [-\]: EutoGo1*
pebarefoot [-\]: is there one?
pebarefoot [-\]: found it
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