(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[5400]OT[15/300 Canadian]
GN[Kido Cup Semifinal]PW[Ondrej Silt]PB[Pal Balogh]WR[6d]BR[6d]DT[2009-10-04]EV[Kido Cup - http://www.kidocup.com/]RO[3]PC[Hamburg]US[Michael Goetze]C[kidocup [?\]: should be starting any moment now
Anana [1k\]: are there results available, a walllist or so?
kidocup [?\]: see my info, there's a link to our forum
Anana [1k\]: the link in your info shows nearly nothing :(
kidocup [?\]: go to page 8 for more
]
;B[pd]
;W[dd]
;B[pp]
;W[dp]C[xDragon [13k?\]: webcam?
kidocup [?\]: no
xDragon [13k?\]: buy one imo
mihi [4d\]: Pop not playing?
kidocup [?\]: balogh just sitting there, looking at the board as if he'd never seen this situation before
kidocup [?\]: pop playing the other semifinal against blomback
Javaness [2d\]: well it's pretty unusual
Prym [-\]: I can find no wall list
woidler [6k?\]: Yeah.. who knows what to do in this situation. Every move looks as good as the other.. ;-)
kidocup [?\]: simara just turned around, looking at this fascinating game over his shoulder
Repacse [5k?\]: could even become mirror go
BigJimBeef [12k\]: This looks like how i opened when i was 17k
kidocup [?\]: you are missing the subtle differences, jim
BigJimBeef [12k\]: A couple of years of intense study is what im missing
Hoppi: the difference is, that these players thinking now, not just after the first tsuke on move 62
BigJimBeef [12k\]: However if the next moves are q10  then d10  ill laugh very loudly
knottycow [1d\]: these guys are beginners
kidocup [?\]: balogh has used 10mins
knottycow [1d\]: i bet the next move is F3
knottycow [1d\]: 10 mannas, i bet on it
Hoppi: are these playrs known for fighting or calm moves?
kidocup [?\]: in other news, his cup still has tea in it and no bite marks yet
Repacse [5k?\]: sugar and a spoon as well ?
kidocup [?\]: no spoon, dunno about sugar
kidocup [?\]: seems to be black tea
BigJimBeef [12k\]: Not green? Hmmm
Javaness [2d\]: tell palogh balogh it's his turn
Hoppi: black hast two choices, go got moyo strategie or c14 that aims for close game
Hoppi: go for*
pronto [?\]: isn't move to tengen a bad idea?
ictus [4k\]: not really
Sponge7 [?\]: black resigns
kidocup [?\]: that would be impolite, since his opponent isn't here
redtable: black loose by 6,5
Hoppi: how much is komi?
BigJimBeef [12k\]: 6.5
Repacse [5k?\]: the score estimator suggests it`s easier for white to invade blacks corners than the other way around, is there a reason for that ?
ictus [4k\]: no
ictus [4k\]: se is retarted
BigJimBeef [12k\]: actually the komi appears to be .5 according to the rules
knottycow [1d\]: after 20 mins, SE says W+13.5
Prym [-\]: yeah, interesting
crowis [6d?\]: Hi, My name is in-seong Hwang 7dan player from Korea, and I'll comment this game in the other room.
kidocup [?\]: anyway, let me take this opportunity to thank our sponsor, kido industrial co.
knottycow [1d\]: i am reminded of a concert piece, 4:21
knottycow [1d\]: which is 4min 21seconds of silence
knottycow [1d\]: pal is gonna do a 90:00
kidocup [?\]: i think you misremembered the name and duration
ncast [11k?\]: in which other room?
kidocup [?\]: his demo - at the top of the active games tab
ictus [4k\]: hmm wonder what kinda move b will make after all this thinking
ncast [11k?\]: thx
dutch2dan [2d\]: tengen?
Hoppi: is pal alright? is he not sick or sth?
fulgurex [2k\]: nervous war:-)
fdrsths: g13 ftw!
kidocup [?\]: well looks a bit tired but otherwise fine
Hoppi: how old are the players?
mint [4d\]: they're both in their 20
mint [4d\]: 20s
Hoppi: tx
knottycow [1d\]: is pal looking at the goban or sleeping?
kidocup [?\]: looking - his blick keeps wandering from corner to corner
BigJimBeef [12k\]: his blick?
basura [7k\]: is he still thinking?
Anana [1k\]: b is searching in his bowl for the right stone to play?
kidocup [?\]: no hasn't touched the bowl at all
basura [7k\]: b trying to find more 4-4 points to play at
Hoppi: haha good one
dutch2dan [2d\]: looking for the stone with two holes drilled into it, a living stone, so to say :)
xDragon [13k?\]: silt not at the tbl anymore?
Anana [1k\]: @dutch lol
kidocup [?\]: no, hasn't been in his chair for the past 15 minutes at least
kidocup [?\]: silt looking at pop-blomback right now
Anana [1k\]: al i all it's a very relaxed game until now^^
knottycow [1d\]: hey, that's a bit rude not to sit in the chair
evenflow [-\]: utterly nonplussed by this kifu so far
kidocup [?\]: both players have a book next to the goban, and cristian pop has been taking an interest in what they are reading
xDragon [13k?\]: exciting game
Vogel [1k\]: ^^
xDragon [13k?\]: rereading the learn to play go series i guess
knottycow [1d\]: omg, he is gonna do this for 90 mins
DragonXiao [5k\]: they are so into it, they even need to read ahead for the 5th move !
DragonXiao [5k\]: o.O
Repacse [5k?\]: Perhaps trying to read the yose ?
kidocup [?\]: ondrej took his fan off the table for a while while looking at the fenech-simara game, but he put it back again and is now wandering through the room
DragonXiao [5k\]: black senses he that he might be short, so he is going to play more aggressively
kidocup [?\]: now whispering something with jan simara in the cornr
evenflow [-\]: b probably trying to read the ladder at q7
kidocup [?\]: balogh studying the lower left corner right now
xDragon [13k?\]: boredomsuji
Hoppi: Maybe Pal Balogh is a bot and went low on battery
sfrex [2k\]: either f17 or q10
xDragon [13k?\]: after 20 min of thought, i dont want either of those
DragonXiao [5k\]: or f3
Vogel [1k\]: are they stil on board?
kidocup [?\]: reminds me of christoph gerlach... when playing at the german championship, i've seen him take 30 minutes on move 1
xDragon [13k?\]: someone said g13. lets go with that
kidocup [?\]: balogh now with tea cup in hand
DragonXiao [5k\]: g13... lol
evenflow [-\]: looking for tesujis
Vogel [1k\]: complete teacup?
knottycow [1d\]: i read a snap back
Vogel [1k\]: lol
Hoppi: Ko!
dutch2dan [2d\]: which move, knotty?
xDragon [13k?\]: whole board seki
knottycow [1d\]: #192
Vogel [1k\]: dragon lol
dutch2dan [2d\]: k
evenflow [-\]: its a gote snapback though
Javaness [2d\]: i wish these kids would play
evenflow [-\]: ban them, clearly
xDragon [13k?\]: its hard to think when you get old
mohsart [1k\]: i wish we could see fredriks game
DragonXiao [5k\]: ....
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;B[pj]C[DragonXiao [5k\]: this is so pointless
DragonXiao [5k\]: finally
xDragon [13k?\]: there
BigJimBeef [12k\]: OMG
ncast [11k?\]: lol
snowman [-\]: i wish we could have commercial breaks
antonk [4k\]: sanrensei?
evenflow [-\]: HOLY SMOKES
BigJimBeef [12k\]: I called it
kidocup [?\]: blomback just asked balogh whether he read that one out
Hoppi: he won! the inner conflict
evenflow [-\]: haha
Vogel [1k\]: lo
xDragon [13k?\]: id  was ondrej id mirror go a bit for fun
kidocup [?\]: here's a small commercial for vesa - thanks to oromedia, the korean embassy, and hebsacker verlag for supporting this tournament
Vogel [1k\]: jingle
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;W[nq]C[kidocup [?\]: and a special thanks to mr. baek sung ho 9p for coming to this tournament
BigJimBeef [12k\]: Awwwww, i was hoping for a D10
xDragon [13k?\]: guy reading disclaimers
kidocup [?\]: balogh has used 30mins
kidocup [?\]: silt, simara and balogh are now discussing whether white should have played san-san
xDragon [13k?\]: thats why we need webcams. boo.
DragonXiao [5k\]: lol, other game is on move 29...
mohsart [1k\]: are there results available anywhere?
DragonXiao [5k\]: p5
evenflow [-\]: so far this looks like one of my games
DragonXiao [5k\]: takemiya style
Laman [2k\]: what the hell? i wanted to watch eurogotv and only channel online is broadcasting some othello game
evenflow [-\]: not sure if it's worth 30m of 6d time :o
kidocup [?\]: see the link in my info
mohsart [1k\]: yeah laman that sux
xDragon [13k?\]: pal proceeds to spend next 45 min reading out
DragonXiao [5k\]: how much time does pal have?
DragonXiao [5k\]: yep, reading out the next 5 moves
kidocup [?\]: he'll enter overtime in 56 minutes
bababouie: what are the byo yomi rules?
DragonXiao [5k\]: wow, he really spent 34 minutes on 3 moves?
Laman [2k\]: byo: 5 min 15 moves
evenflow [-\]: kidocup how much time does ondrej have left
cbus [13k\]: maybe he read the entire game ;)
cbus [13k\]: so now its just execution left
DragonXiao [5k\]: shouldn't he learn by now?
kidocup [?\]: ondrej has used less than 2 minutes
xDragon [13k?\]: lets watch othello
xDragon [13k?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV8
mohsart [1k\]: thx kido, but that's rather limited, i wonder about mens and womens results too, not only top group
kidocup [?\]: most of that due to his being out of the room when balogh played q10
DragonXiao [5k\]: didn't he lose to someone on time in like 30 moves?
kidocup [?\]: as for the women, i can tell you that rene frehe has won against both barbara knauf and manja marz
bababouie: where is this tournament taking place?
kidocup [?\]: bababouie - see options->rules
DragonXiao [5k\]: is pal in the room?
bababouie: Thx.
kidocup [?\]: pal hasn't left his chair once since the game started
DragonXiao [5k\]: what is he thinking about? is he meditating? doing yoga?
DragonXiao [5k\]: playing mind games with ondrej?
BigJimBeef [12k\]: he lost his train of thought and is now trying to remember where he was going to go
DragonXiao [5k\]: catch him off guard?
xDragon [13k?\]: playing othello
mohsart [1k\]: whats up w that? othellogotv???
Laman [2k\]: no, euroothellotv
xDragon [13k?\]: othello owns
Javaness [2d\]: kidocup: if you want pal to play faster just go over and tell him to
Vogel [1k\]: kgs watchers vote for next move
kidocup [?\]: that's alright, i'd like to be here if he sets a new record an loses on time by move 25
mohsart [1k\]: <kido> hey pal, there are 100+ ppl waiting, could you speed up pls?
DragonXiao [5k\]: pal can spend the time however he likes
xDragon [13k?\]: where are they broadcasting othello online anyway?
xDragon [13k?\]: theres that woman at the computer
knottycow [1d\]: if u wanna spend that kind of time, at least give us something interesting like G13 as someone suggested just now
knottycow [1d\]: and make ondrej think a little
mohsart [1k\]: could show fredrik vs pop instead... just a thought..
kidocup [?\]: balogh has used 45mins
georgemc: Pal can play how faster he wants indeed but also the organizers are free to show a GAME!
gmnn [4k?\]: not very strange for balogh... I am sure he will not lose by time
DragonXiao [5k\]: how are you so sure?
evenflow [-\]: you know what, i think i figured out what he's doing here
mohsart [1k\]: thinking?
DragonXiao [5k\]: i knew all along
evenflow [-\]: clearly balogh plays better under pressure
evenflow [-\]: he's just trying to get to byo yomi asap
knottycow [1d\]: does pal look drunk?
DragonXiao [5k\]: playing mind games
DragonXiao [5k\]: hmm, that might make sense too
DragonXiao [5k\]: but i think the pressure is already high enough, do you not agree?
knottycow [1d\]: i once had a friend who goes into catatonic states and be frozen in awkward postions for hours, e.g. while walking
ayahuasca [3d\]: that's called narcolepsy
xDragon [13k?\]: frozen while walking?
DragonXiao [5k\]: he's not your friend anymore
gmnn [4k?\]: I saw a game in which balogh had 10 min and his opponent (4d) 1h15min when they started. And Balogh crushed him.
knottycow [1d\]: i lost contact with him for 15 years
DragonXiao [5k\]: i have alternate explanation
knottycow [1d\]: not narcolepsy. he had OCN and frontal lobe atrophy
Lucky38 [?\]: Only 6 moves.....
Lucky38 [?\]: in how much time ?
xDragon [13k?\]: pal has used 45 min
Lucky38 [?\]: pfff.....
xDragon [13k?\]: anyway, remember when that 7d said he was going tyo review this game?
xDragon [13k?\]: he must be awful bored
DragonXiao [5k\]: balogh is trying to show off
georgemc: gmnn, andrej is not a 4d but one of the top players in EU
xDragon [13k?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV8
xDragon [13k?\]: new othello games beginning meanwhile
mohsart [1k\]: any games finished yet?
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;B[no]C[just9x9 [-\]: what was ondrej's nick on kgs again?
Lucky38 [?\]: finally.... black did not die on his chair :)
kidocup [?\]: i asked yoon young-sun 5p about the game of f. blomback vs. c. pop
DragonXiao [5k\]: o.O
DragonXiao [5k\]: interesting move
gmnn [4k?\]: georgemc: I know Ondrej very well :) But I am just sure Balogh is not going to lose by time
kidocup [?\]: she said it's still even, but she would rather have black (blomback's color)
gmnn [4k?\]: not sure who will win
just9x9 [-\]: balogh will lose by misclicking clock ;))
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;W[qq]C[mohsart [1k\]: ok thx kido
knottycow [1d\]: these moves are so prosaic
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;B[pq]
;W[qp]
;B[po]C[georgemc: wow, how fast!
georgemc: and wrong LOL
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;W[pr]
;B[or]C[BigJimBeef [12k\]: slow down this isnt a blitz game
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;W[qr]
;B[oq]
;W[qn]
;B[jp]C[Hoppi: eh?
DragonXiao [5k\]: well, not a blitz game
DragonXiao [5k\]: but they'd BETTER play fast
DragonXiao [5k\]: after black spent 45 minutes on first 3 moves
gmnn [4k?\]: as I said.. it is not strange when balogh use 30 minutes in first 10 moves.. and then almost blitz the rest of the game
BigJimBeef [12k\]: whites turn to play at a 2 move per half hor ate
georgemc: gmnn, yes but thinking 45 mins for blocking on the wrong side of the sanrensei is awful
bababouie: kido, what do the pros think about this position?
Laman [2k\]: someone says awful, some might think stylish
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;W[fq]
;B[jd]C[georgemc: funny, laman!
DragonXiao [5k\]: i doubt anyone would say awful
gmnn [4k?\]: george I agree
DragonXiao [5k\]: just ...
kidocup [?\]: i don't know baba, but you can ask crowis - see his demo at the top of the active games list
]
;W[dj]C[DragonXiao [5k\]: nonstandard
gmnn [4k?\]: maybe it is the part of his strategy..to make his opponent bored :)
georgemc: playing nonstandard is fine, playing wrong is bad ;-)
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;B[fd]
;W[cf]C[tapkopi: q14?
xDragon [13k?\]: wel will find out in about 20 min
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;B[ff]C[BigJimBeef [12k\]: is that when the next move will be?
Troff [?\]: what a fuseki
]
;W[nc]
;B[ne]C[DragonXiao [5k\]: o.O
Ecto [4k\]: If they play the same joseki as in the lower left, black's territory starts to look very small
snowman [-\]: pal has been studying monte carlo system
Ecto [4k\]: as in lower right*
mohsart [1k\]: haha
DragonXiao [5k\]: monte carlo system?
georgemc: gambling?
snowman [-\]: computer go
Ecto [4k\]: It's a way for computers to calculate which moves are better
kidocup [?\]: vesa, you think he is sad to miss the computer go tourney on kgs right now?
DragonXiao [5k\]: p5 seems so much better than o5
DragonXiao [5k\]: at least p5 has a sense of direction
georgemc: That's why he plays like this? (Computers don't play very well go LOL)
kidocup [?\]: pal takes off a blue sweater to reveal a grey one... beneath that he's wearing something orange
Mikki62 [2k\]: there is no livestream of the game?
xDragon [13k?\]: he just needed time to get to hit superhero form
georgemc: hmmm ...
minismurf [-\]: only showing one semifinal?
georgemc: the other one is not so boring and that's why is not shown LOL
kidocup [?\]: yes, we didn't want to show 4 rounds of pop
Kuros [6k\]: you left out an o
kidocup [?\]: (he's playing f. blomback)
hnnngh [1k\]: what's wrong with that? It's not the _only_ game you broadcast anyway
kidocup [?\]: any complaints will be interpreted as volunteering to transmit some games next year ;)
minismurf [-\]: yes, but Fredrik is an up-and-coming star... afraid you won't get to show Pop in next round ;)
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;W[ld]C[Blubbel [6k\]: where can i see the results of the games?
kidocup [?\]: that's fine, we'll happily show fredrik next round if he wins :)
]
;B[le]
;W[ke]C[hnnngh [1k\]: if you pay the travel costs I will gladly come
]
;B[kd]
;W[oe]C[georgemc: me too LOL
Javaness [2d\]: I am happy kidocup shows us these games
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;B[od]
;W[me]
;B[lf]
;W[mf]C[SirEttin [2k?\]: who is this kido anyway?
]
;B[md]C[kidocup [?\]: see options->rules before asking any questions
georgemc: "the way of go" = kido
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;W[nd]C[DragonXiao [5k\]: he plays your sequence 
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;B[nf]
;W[mg]C[minismurf [-\]: oooh
DragonXiao [5k\]: woops lol, wrong chat
minismurf [-\]: considering N17?
minismurf [-\]: M17 looks normal
kidocup [?\]: balogh has used one hour, silt has used 18mins
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;B[lc]C[kidocup [?\]: what a crescendo... hit the board loudly, the clock a bit harder, and then the stone in the bowl... fortissimo!
toko [2k\]: sorry, are the results on the web somewhere ?
kidocup [?\]: yes, see the forum link in my info
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;W[pe]C[kidocup [?\]: (and be sure to look at page 8 also)
Mot [3k\]: http://www.kidocup.com/en/?Participants
minismurf [-\]: O18?
]
(;B[lg]
;W[qd]
;B[ob]C[kidocup [?\]: i messed up :(
]
;W[pb]C[Lolilol [1k\]: Q18 nice
DragonXiao [5k\]: black should have seen this coming
DragonXiao [5k\]: and not played p18
Lolilol [1k\]: M13 was wrong
Gresil [7k\]: was it now
georgemc: Not M13 was wrong but the moves before it ;-)
Gresil [7k\]: black gets some forcing moves for the center
DragonXiao [5k\]: m13 wrong also
tapkopi: also f14 looks silly, too close to thickness
DragonXiao [5k\]: black has no territory
DragonXiao [5k\]: white advantage clear
DragonXiao [5k\]: @ this point
Gresil [7k\]: most of the left side isn't territory either yet
biggoron [8k\]: I think black doesn't try to save P16, he makes pressure to use Q10 and trap N15
DragonXiao [5k\]: but much more solid than anything black has
georgemc: game over
minismurf [-\]: not game over yet
DragonXiao [5k\]: just about, i can't see B winning this
georgemc: no territory, no potential, no time. Game over
tapkopi: I guess w can even sacrifice n15
kidocup [?\]: he still has 20mins before entering overtime
kidocup [?\]: and that's a comfortable 15 stones in 5 minutes
DragonXiao [5k\]: he played 22 stones in 70 minutes
DragonXiao [5k\]: that's a big drop off in thinking time
georgemc: 15 stones in 5 minutes may be comfortable in yose, not in a complcated middle game ;-)
biggoron [8k\]: if N15 dead and Black Q7...the influence in monstruous
DragonXiao [5k\]: byo yomi should be 1 minute per move
Araunt [4d?\]: is the game still playing ?
DragonXiao [5k\]: 20 seconds a move isn't exactly comfortable, either
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;B[qf]C[Javaness [2d\]: it is for black
kidocup [?\]: silt has used 30 minutes
dickebacke [1d\]: what about o12 now?
tomason [1d\]: or F17 and have 4 corners
dickebacke [1d\]: w have 2 fight i guess with n-stones
cucaiduong [2k\]: Q13 i think
dickebacke [1d\]: if q13 there is some trouble left at r15
family645: s14?
dickebacke [1d\]: if o12, b must do anythink with o14 and w get r15 in sente
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;W[gj]C[dickebacke [1d\]: or wait for a better time 2 fight... :-)))
BigJimBeef [12k\]: white geting a huge moyo
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;B[pf]
;W[qe]
;B[nb]
;W[oc]
;B[mc]
;W[pc]
;B[eh]C[Isowatt [-\]: I don't understand E12, feels like it's "destroying" the smallest part of white moyo, at most threatening a small invasion, and so, giving white a chance to play C5 or something similar..
Isowatt [-\]: And it doesn't even look like it's expanding black area all that much...
tapkopi: he wants to cut g10
snowman [-\]: this position is heavily in white's favor
Medice [4d\]: white will probably still want to play c11 or something
Isowatt [-\]: If he plays D11, then he both reinforces G10 and C12, right ?
Isowatt [-\]: Or is that too much bad aji ?
Medice [4d\]: aji left at c13
kidocup [?\]: eh?
Medice [4d\]: hmm?
kidocup [?\]: oops
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;W[of]
;B[ng]
;W[pg]
;B[og]
;W[qg]
;B[ph])
(;B[ng]C[Medice [4d\]: uhhuh
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;W[qd]
;B[ob]
;W[pb]
;B[qf]
;W[gj]
(;B[eh])
(;B[pf]
;W[qe]
;B[eh]
;W[of]
;B[og]
;W[pg]
;B[ph]
;W[qg]
;B[rf]
;W[rg]C[kidocup [?\]: sorry :(
]
;B[rh]C[just9x9 [-\]: this is game now?
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: hmm
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;W[re]
;B[qh]
;W[sf]
;B[ch]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: white started with p14
]
;W[ec]
;B[fc]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: and then cut + sacrifice
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: yes its right order now :)
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: i prefer black here
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: i dont think playing p14 in gote was a success
zazie [-\]: yeah... give too much thickness to black
just9x9 [-\]: well r6 is nice positioned now
broiler [4d\]: is this the game?
kidocup [?\]: yes
just9x9 [-\]: and upper right is huge corner
just9x9 [-\]: and g10 is a bit thin but has erasing potential
tapkopi: game changed from beyond hope for b to just inferior for b
Gresil [7k\]: it wasn't beyond hope.
tapkopi: actually if b manages to attack d10 and g10 it might get interesting
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;W[gh]C[Lucky38 [?\]: whos is atatcking what ?
snowman [-\]: white heard you
Lucky38 [?\]: :)
kidocup [?\]: balogh has used 80 mins
]
;B[ej]
;W[ek]C[tapkopi: amazing how game changed pace in last 15 moves. Suddenly initiative for b
snowman [-\]: initiative?
tapkopi: no?
snowman [-\]: this is just a small skirmish, white is well in the control for the whole board
]
;B[fj]
;W[fk]
;B[gk]C[Ecto [4k\]: Looks like black is trying for an enormous center moyo
tapkopi: a lot more b stones in centre than w, so "well in control" seems a bit optimistic for w ...
]
;W[ei]
;B[fi]
;W[fh]
;B[di]
;W[gi]
;B[ei]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: if white e13, black just d9 i think
Ecto [4k\]: Well done finding tha weakness by white
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: so maybe white should just connect d9 now and see what happens in the center :)
]
;W[hk]
;B[gl]
;W[dk]
;B[eg]C[snowman [-\]: j10?
]
;W[fb]
;B[gb]C[dickebacke [1d\]: b at c17 looks awesome
dickebacke [1d\]: if j10
snowman [-\]: black c17, white c16
Uberdude [5d?\]: c17 just a reduction
Ecto [4k\]: b j11 looks nic
Ecto [4k\]: e
Uberdude [5d?\]: w is safe
tapkopi: also moves like b16 for b come to mind
Uberdude [5d?\]: b16 stronger
dickebacke [1d\]: ok
just9x9 [-\]: hallo JottKa, du hast eine PM von mir ;)
]
;W[ij]C[saimic [3k\]: w did cristian pop?
saimic [3k\]: what*
Uberdude [5d?\]: no, death metal
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: somehow position is unclear
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: even though im sure black is ahead :)
Javaness [2d\]: popica grande still playing
saimic [3k\]: thank you. 
]
;B[hm]
;W[co]
;B[mh]C[liso [4d\]: white has 4 corners :)
]
;W[im]
;B[in]C[GoShinobi [-\]: not really ,aji on top 
liso [4d\]: that aji is not big
]
;W[il]C[GoShinobi [-\]: on top left aji is big
]
;B[jn]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: wow k6
]
;W[eb]C[tapkopi: hm, I wonder how b will handle cut
kidocup [?\]: balogh in byoyomi
mihi [4d\]: is w alive in centre?
sfrex [2k\]: only chance is kill centre w
Javaness [2d\]: how he can kill
GoShinobi [-\]: hwang in-seong showed the cut 
kidocup [?\]: he'll run out of time thinking about that
GoShinobi [-\]: its working for white
]
;B[fn]C[broiler [4d\]: how much time do they have now?
kidocup [?\]: 3m28s left for 14 stones
kidocup [?\]: silt has used one hour
]
;W[jk]C[kidocup [?\]: 2mins
]
;B[cq]C[kidocup [?\]: 1m52s left for 13 stones...
]
;W[bo]
;B[fr]
;W[er]
;B[gr]
;W[eq]
;B[gq]
;W[gp]
;B[hp]
;W[go]
;B[hn]
;W[hq]
;B[hr]C[eurogotv [-\]: hi
]
;W[jh]C[kidocup [?\]: 50s
]
;B[bk]C[Larrave [2k\]: for how much
kidocup [?\]: 47s for 6 stones
Larrave [2k\]: thx=)
]
;W[cl]
;B[bd]
;W[be]
;B[cd]
;W[ce]C[kidocup [?\]: blomback resigned
]
;B[cb]
;W[ee]
;B[fe]C[Vador [?\]: Ouch !
]
;W[bg]
;B[bh]C[kidocup [?\]: winner of this game will face pop in the final
Vador [?\]: Two huge groups in jeopardy because of lack of time...
]
;W[bb]
;B[bl]
;W[bm]C[kidocup [?\]: with 6s to go, balogh gets new stones
]
;B[am]
;W[an]
;B[ql]C[loveHER [6d\]: g6 cut is very big..
loveHER [6d\]: o18 and h18 are other big yose points..
]
;W[qm]
;B[rl]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: i think o18 is biggest
]
;W[al]C[loveHER [6d\]: wow a18..
]
;B[ki]
;W[kh]
;B[lh]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: big mystery, isnt it^^
]
;W[ll]C[loveHER [6d\]: hey jun why arent you playing?
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: im japanese
]
;B[bc]C[loveHER [6d\]: ah its only for europeans?
zazie [-\]: yes
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: the top groupe, yes
]
;W[ab]C[zazie [-\]: are you both playing vienna's tournament ? ;:)
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: when?
]
;B[ji]
;W[ii]
;B[hg]C[loveHER [6d\]: no moniez to go to vienna hehe
zazie [-\]: 31.10-1.11
]
;W[ih]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: maybe
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: lets see
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: i will decide at this weekend :)
zazie [-\]: ok :)
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: vienna is pretty close
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: who comes of G ?
zazie [-\]: yeah i know
zazie [-\]: maybe antoine, maybe me
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: ok, so maybe me, too
]
;B[es]
;W[ds]C[zazie [-\]: but you know my maybes ;)
]
;B[fs]
;W[dr]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: i know antoines maybe, too
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: so black should definetly o18 now
loveHER [6d\]: dont worry, antoine goes to all the tournaments hehe
zazie [-\]: not this year :)=
zazie [-\]: O18 in sente then G19 ?
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: i think not g19
]
;B[cj]C[kidocup [?\]: 15s
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: with h13 h18 is protected
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: common! why not o18 in sente
]
;W[ck]
;B[bj]C[WujekSad [3d?\]: g6 ?
]
;W[ho]
;B[ip]
;W[gn]
;B[fl]
;W[if]C[zazie [-\]: O18 ? :)
kidocup [?\]: eh, i can't find it
]
;B[eo]
;W[hb]C[zazie [-\]: they both know it's black's privilege so they refuse to play it ;)
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: nice
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: action :)
]
;B[gc]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: hmm
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: action over
]
;W[em]
;B[fm]
;W[ga]C[zazie [-\]: those hollywood movies are always shorter than the previous ones
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: lol
]
;B[do]C[zazie [-\]: pal looks far behind to me
tomason [1d\]: so Pop-SIlt will be the final
kidocup [?\]: seems likely
loveHER [6d\]: kido
loveHER [6d\]: do you know tobias?
kidocup [?\]: berben?
]
;W[ep]C[loveHER [6d\]: 4 or 5 dan
loveHER [6d\]: german
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: yeah, berben then
]
;B[cp]C[zazie [-\]: yes, he's berben :)
kidocup [?\]: he's the tournament director
]
;W[br]C[loveHER [6d\]: when you see him tell him ali said hi hehe
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: lol
zazie [-\]: all-in
tomason [1d\]: and thi final will start at 13.00 according to your info , so they should started 20 min ago :-)
]
;B[dn]C[mihi [4d\]: tell him that Ali wants revenge in poker
]
;W[cn]
;B[dm]
;W[cm]C[loveHER [6d\]: yes, i want my moniez back =P
kidocup [?\]: 1m50s for 9 stones
]
;B[cr]C[WujekSad [3d?\]: f4 ?
kidocup [?\]: ondrej has used 80mins
Onmyoji [2d\]: who win?
Regenbogen [1d\]: w wins
]
;W[bq]
;B[ic]
;W[lj]
;B[li]
;W[ln]C[wesley [6k\]: it's not over yet
]
;B[lo]
;W[mn]
;B[mo]
;W[os]
;B[ns]
;W[ps]
;B[nr]C[WujekSad [3d?\]: f4 f5 c1 ?
Regenbogen [1d\]: 4 stones in gote ...
Uberdude [5d?\]: o18 is so big
]
;W[el]
;B[sn]
;W[ro]C[ttonndaa [1d\]: kidocup? are you sure O18 isn't played yet?
kidocup [?\]: oh... no
kidocup [?\]: i forgot those moves earlier :(
Hoppi: haha
kairos [-\]: ^^
Onmyoji [2d\]: kiddocup is a childrens tournament?
]
(;B[ib]C[wesley [6k\]: w had 68 before t6 reduction
wesley [6k\]: or at least that was my count
])
(;B[nb]
;W[oc]
;B[mc]
;W[pc]
;B[ib]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: lol
ttonndaa [1d\]: :)
]
;W[ad]C[kidocup [?\]: the problem is ondrej always leans so far over the board that i don't see anything on the top :)
]
;B[mj]
;W[mk]C[tomason [1d\]: Hwang said he cannot understand why O18 is not played - easy explanation  :-))
]
;B[nj]
;W[sh]C[kidocup [?\]: it's because i misclicked o13 at m13 :(
wesley [6k\]: s11 avoid picnic ko
kidocup [?\]: what ko?
wesley [6k\]: well if t11 w could s11 and even if black retreats to t9
wesley [6k\]: those w stones could be dangerous in future
Regenbogen [1d\]: SE says round about W+10
]
;B[si]C[kidocup [?\]: oh really?
]
;W[pl]
;B[pk]C[wesley [6k\]: i detect sarcasm
kidocup [?\]: not very convincing, wesley ;)
]
;W[hf]C[croquignol [-\]: where can we see the total results?
]
;B[ed]C[wesley [6k\]: if you are using a client you get Score estimator
]
;W[dc]
;B[ef]C[croquignol [-\]: of the tournament, I mean
GoKlaus [?\]: take a look in his info, there is a link to a forum, maybe last page
croquignol [-\]: thanks 
]
;W[gg]
;B[ol]
;W[pm]
;B[kj]
;W[lk]C[kidocup [?\]: balogh making sure to use all his time yet again
kidocup [?\]: 30s
Onmyoji [2d\]: i count w+14.5
kidocup [?\]: 7 stones
]
;B[hc]
;W[rm]
;B[sm]
;W[so]
;B[rj]
;W[ha]
;B[fa]
;W[ea]
;B[ia]C[Haloran [7k\]: how play Jan Simara pls??
kidocup [?\]: he won
Haloran [7k\]: thx
]
;W[fa]
;B[de]
;W[cc]
;B[mb]
;W[oa]
;B[na]
;W[pa]
;B[ag]
;W[af]
;B[ah]
;W[cg]
;B[jm]
;W[jl]
;B[kf]
;W[rn]
;B[sl]
;W[kn]
;B[om]
;W[ko]
;B[kp]C[ChradH [?\]: F4 still possible for black?
]
;W[je]C[Regenbogen [1d\]: no
]
;B[qo]
;W[sq]C[Kachnak [1k\]: nope since f5 thretens to ham e5 stones...
Regenbogen [1d\]: w has e6 then
]
;B[jf]
;W[ie]
;B[nn]
;W[nk]
;B[ok]
;W[kg]
;B[lg]
;W[pn]
;B[on]C[kidocup [?\]: ondrej in  byoyomi now
]
;W[ak]
;B[aj]
;W[am]
;B[df]
;W[nl]
;B[km]
;W[lm]
;B[nm]
;W[mm]
;B[dg]C[evanj [2d\]: ham?
]
;W[cs]C[tomason [1d\]: K13?
kidocup [?\]: i would think so...
]
;B[sg]C[HelloQtion [-\]: K13 useless
evanj [2d\]: it's yose, dude
]
;W[qk]
;B[rk]
;W[sh]
;B[gf]
;W[he]
;B[sg]
;W[iq]
;B[ir]
;W[sh]C[Lucky38 [?\]: K13 is not useless anymore after G14
]
;B[ge]
;W[hd]
;B[sg]C[evanj [2d\]: it was already worth more than the ko
]
;W[ig]
;B[sh]C[Lucky38 [?\]: an that's it
kidocup [?\]: over
kidocup [?\]: filling dame now
Javaness [2d\]: looks like black got qnerted
Lucky38 [?\]: SE gives B +11,5
Javaness [2d\]: will the next round start in 30 minutes?
Regenbogen [1d\]: w had to play j13 anyway , so k13 was useless
kidocup [?\]: w+11.5
kidocup [?\]: thanks for watching, see you next round (sometime soon)
Lucky38 [?\]: yes!!
Lucky38 [?\]: B in French is white :(
tomason [1d\]: thanks !
Lucky38 [?\]:  sorry for mistake
Lucky38 [?\]: thx for the broadcasting
Sandmann [-\]: i always thought w was balogh
Javaness [2d\]: thanks kidocup
Maroncsan [-\]: thanku kido :)
]))))