(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[5400]OT[15/300 Canadian]
GN[Kido Cup Board 1]PW[Vladimir Danek]PB[Cristian Pop]WR[5d]BR[7d]DT[2009-10-03]EV[Kido Cup]RO[1]PC[Hamburg]US[Michael Goetze]
;B[pd]
;W[dp]
;B[pp]
;W[dc]
;B[de]C[crowis [6d?\]: Christian pop is one of the strongest europian player.
crowis [6d?\]: and Danek is strong Czech player.
crowis [6d?\]: I played with both of them,
crowis [6d?\]: and I think they are quite strong.
]
;W[ce]C[menikmati [3k\]: did you win ? =)
ttonndaa [1d\]: he did
]
(;B[dd]
;W[cd]
;B[ec]C[crowis [6d?\]: it's difficult pattern
crowis [6d?\]: how to say, avalranch?
Goreon [1d\]: avalanche
crowis [6d?\]: ah-ha, thanks :p
dutch2dan [2d\]: yw
]
(;W[cc]C[ttonndaa [1d\]: avalanche
dutch2dan [2d\]: avalanche or nadare
]
;B[df]C[crowis [6d?\]: hi,
dutch2dan [2d\]: hi
crowis [6d?\]: here's in-seong, and I'll comment this game.
crowis [6d?\]: good to see you everyone :-)
Javaness [2d\]: hi in-seong
]
;W[cg]C[menikmati [3k\]: hi
]
(;B[eh]C[crowis [6d?\]: hum..
dutch2dan [2d\]: ?
crowis [6d?\]: it's unusual move.
crowis [6d?\]: as I said, I played against both of them.
Dovery [4k\]: oohh
crowis [6d?\]: and Pop played very calmly.
crowis [6d?\]: so, suprise for me :p
crowis [6d?\]: at the begining, it was bad move.
crowis [6d?\]: so..
]
;W[nq]
;B[ch]
;W[bg]C[Baldur [3k\]: ^^
]
;B[pn]
;W[jp]C[jjermann [2d?\]: D18 and K16 instead of R10?
crowis [6d?\]: in this situation, upper side is more important than right side.
mianreg [5k\]: L17 ?
crowis [6d?\]: so Black should play upper side.
]
(;B[qj]C[saimic [3k\]: its this game played right now?
Javaness [2d\]: yes
convers [6k\]: yes
crowis [6d?\]: I think that's bad..
crowis [6d?\]: and that also wrong direction,
]
;W[jc]C[crowis [6d?\]: ye, now, it's hard to play as a White.
crowis [6d?\]: so now, White is ahead.
]
(;B[nc]C[crowis [6d?\]: oh..
crowis [6d?\]: White is it;;
crowis [6d?\]: they changed the move;;
crowis [6d?\]: What is it;
crowis [6d?\]: oh.
crowis [6d?\]: ok.
]
(;W[gc]C[crowis [6d?\]: it's my first time to live review on the internet
mgoetze [1k\]: amazing, he didn't attach
crowis [6d?\]: so please don't mind if I do some wrong thing :-)
Firzen [-\]: attaching seems to make a weaker shape
crowis [6d?\]: White choose this move.
Maroncsan [-\]: u r doing just fine 
Jadeite [?\]: crowis. we are happy you are here :-)
crowis [6d?\]: still White is better than Black.
crowis [6d?\]: but...I like to give pressure to my opponent
crowis [6d?\]: while I'm playing.
crowis [6d?\]: so I prefer attach(F 17)
crowis [6d?\]: but it's a bit slack.
]
(;B[db]C[crowis [6d?\]: White should not answer.
crowis [6d?\]: and this situation too.
]
(;W[ed]
(;B[fd]C[jjermann [2d?\]: if black plays F17, how would white play?
Xylol [7k\]: ?
crowis [6d?\]: so black plays here.
]
;W[eb]C[crowis [6d?\]: but he just choose compromise way.
]
;B[ee]C[jjermann [2d?\]: this seems so easy for white
]
;W[fb]C[Javaness [2d\]: black gets sente though
martin3141 [2k\]: wo was d18 a mistake?
crowis [6d?\]: White is connected
crowis [6d?\]: but black took one stone.
crowis [6d?\]: so that group is not that weak
jjermann [2d?\]: I still feel unhappy as black...
crowis [6d?\]: so it's better then other variation for Black.
crowis [6d?\]: but White took big territory and connected. so the game is still White is ahead
menikmati [3k\]: e16 was a good move then ?
crowis [6d?\]: so still White was ahead, but White lost the chance to have far ahead.
]
;B[lq]C[jjermann [2d?\]: I think this is the game
crowis [6d?\]: hmm.. this shape always has this invasion point.
crowis [6d?\]: and now,
]
(;W[lo]C[crowis [6d?\]: so I don't like this shape :p
crowis [6d?\]: that was OK, but..
]
;B[mp]
;W[qq]C[crowis [6d?\]: but it was mistake.
crowis [6d?\]: because corner is not ioportant in this situation.
]
;B[pq]
;W[pr]C[crowis [6d?\]: if I were Black,
]
(;B[qp]C[jjermann [2d?\]: D9?
]
;W[rr]
;B[rq]
;W[qr]C[Javaness [2d\]: this line looks very different
]
(;B[ko]C[crowis [6d?\]: not one stone
Goreon [1d\]: ok
Javaness [2d\]: black wants to make points on right i suppose
crowis [6d?\]: it's not that big
crowis [6d?\]: still
crowis [6d?\]: it was too small.
]
;W[np]C[crowis [6d?\]: now Black played across attach,
crowis [6d?\]: but White's one stone is light.
crowis [6d?\]: so now, White just give one stone, like actual game.
jjermann [2d?\]: O5?
jjermann [2d?\]: why not o5 here?
]
(;B[kp]
(;W[jq]
;B[no]C[grafzahl [8k?\]: so says SE ;)
crowis [6d?\]: but now,
crowis [6d?\]: White played one of loosing move.
]
(;W[rp]
;B[ro]C[crowis [6d?\]: oh..Black just answer.
]
;W[sq]C[crowis [6d?\]: it's bad move.;
Javaness [2d\]: black wants moyo
crowis [6d?\]: too small.
crowis [6d?\]: it was too small.
]
;B[fq]C[FrostWind [5k\]: if moyo p10 is a good move?
crowis [6d?\]: White is alive anyway,
crowis [6d?\]: so now Black approach lower left corner and separate White's stone.
jjermann [2d?\]: white is no longer ahead?
crowis [6d?\]: so I think...Black recovers the point.
ipod1031 [3k\]: ドッカン！！
crowis [6d?\]: I would like to take Black. 
crowis [6d?\]: Black invade this area and separate White's group, 
crowis [6d?\]: so Black became ahead.
]
;W[fo]C[crowis [6d?\]: he likes to play knight move for cover I guess :p
]
(;B[cq]C[dutch2dan [2d\]: Pop seems to disagree
martin3141 [2k\]: w can't play c5, I think
crowis [6d?\]: but Black also had mistake
]
;W[dq]
;B[cp]C[crowis [6d?\]: well, definitely the player doesn't look this comment :p
crowis [6d?\]: actually, they might see my comment, if they come down from the playing room for going to toilet :p
ttonndaa [1d\]: lol
Uberdude [5d?\]: thanks for your comments
crowis [6d?\]: thanks for watch my stupid comments ;p
jjermann [2d?\]: C2 after C5?
]
(;W[cr]C[jjermann [2d?\]: b c2 instead of the cut? isn't it usual?
crowis [6d?\]: I don't understand why he plays this move.
crowis [6d?\]: but it was mistake and..
]
;B[br]
;W[dr]
;B[cn]
;W[do]
;B[in]C[Javaness [2d\]: black a lot of influence now
crowis [6d?\]: that move is good.
Javaness [2d\]: L15 next?
jjermann [2d?\]: in the variation before, you showed that w can hane and then b cut doesnt work
jjermann [2d?\]: what if b plays C2 first (in the variation before)?
crowis [6d?\]: and if White plays elsewhere,
crowis [6d?\]: that was good move.
]
(;W[ho]
;B[io]
;W[hp]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: w play here seems a little slow
]
;B[jd]C[Javaness [2d\]: huge
jjermann [2d?\]: huh, b wants the whole board *g*
dutch2dan [2d\]: b wants a bit more than just lock up the upper right corner, it seems
Javaness [2d\]: Popic will take it :)
jjermann [2d?\]: this is getting a bit unbalanced ^^
crowis [6d?\]: so White should play...
Uberdude [5d?\]: funky move
crowis [6d?\]: so now Black gets sente and play for the center.
crowis [6d?\]: so Black is ahead.
]
(;W[id]
;B[kc]C[crowis [6d?\]: Pop prefer profit.
martin3141 [2k\]: what about j15 for w?
]
(;W[kd]
;B[je]
;W[lc]
;B[kb]
;W[lb]C[Kirigo: W can S15?
crowis [6d?\]: oh, looks nice.
crowis [6d?\]: if Black plays..
crowis [6d?\]: wait
dutch2dan [2d\]: just capture 2 w stones
jjermann [2d?\]: "just" ?
crowis [6d?\]: Danek is come down for having drink
crowis [6d?\]: so I stop the comment :p
]
(;B[ke]
;W[ld]
;B[le]C[crowis [6d?\]: so..Black decide to take center.
crowis [6d?\]: but certainly, Black gets damaged locally.
]
;W[me]
(;B[jb]C[crowis [6d?\]: and it was important situation 
crowis [6d?\]: White should not connect as a actual game.
crowis [6d?\]: so now,
]
(;W[ic]C[Kirigo: s15 ?
crowis [6d?\]: if White lose this gmae, then it may be one of the loosing move..
]
;B[md]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: dunno
crowis [6d?\]: even better for Black.
]
;W[ib]C[martin3141 [2k\]: w can take more some points in lower left corner
]
;B[mb]
;W[ja]
;B[ie]C[crowis [6d?\]: hmm...it's too good for Black.
crowis [6d?\]: Black's moyo or shape has not weak point
crowis [6d?\]: hmm..
Uberdude [5d?\]: w just likes the proverb "always connect from atari"
dutch2dan [2d\]: ... even when caught in a ladder :)
Uberdude [5d?\]: of course, it gives you more opportunities to follow the proverb :p
crowis [6d?\]: White has about 60points
crowis [6d?\]: upper left corner is 30
Javaness [2d\]: Black 600
crowis [6d?\]: lower side is 20
martin3141 [2k\]: hm ... white needs to invade now
Uberdude [5d?\]: q11?
crowis [6d?\]: and lower right corner is less than 10
crowis [6d?\]: with komi probably 65points
crowis [6d?\]: but Black can make more than 65points easily I suppose. 
jjermann [2d?\]: if black could play again, what would be a good/perfect spot?
crowis [6d?\]: now, Black is far ahead.
crowis [6d?\]: so now, I would guess that Black may win this game.
crowis [6d?\]: I'll finish the comment, and will tell you the result later on.
crowis [6d?\]: bye!
effel [3k\]: thx
kairos [-\]: thx
LeT63 [1d\]: thx, bye!
Orandajinn [2k\]: thx bye!
jjermann [2d?\]: bye
crowis [6d?\]: ah, I'll comment 2nd round.
crowis [6d?\]: so see you soon!
Skadi [2d?\]: thanks :-)
Jadeite [?\]: Thanks you In-seong :-)
Uberdude [5d?\]: thanks
]
;W[mo]C[crowis [6d?\]: anyway, cut is good to try.
]
;B[nn]C[crowis [6d?\]: when you want to invade your opponent's moyo, you should use your opponent's weakness.
crowis [6d?\]: but as you can see, Black's shape is not that weak. :p
crowis [6d?\]: in this case.
Onmyoji [2d\]: wat can w do
Onmyoji [2d\]: :||||||||||||
Skadi [2d?\]: jump and split
jjermann [2d?\]: split what?
Skadi [2d?\]: L4 group
]
;W[lm]C[Skadi [2d?\]: like that yes :-)
jjermann [2d?\]: hmm ok and sacrifice O3
crowis [6d?\]: matter of life & death :p
crowis [6d?\]: but even if White can live, I don't know that White is ahead.
jjermann [2d?\]: S6 for w is too small anyway I guess?
]
(;B[kn]C[crowis [6d?\]: so just answer and make bamboo, is better
]
;W[mm]
;B[jk]C[crowis [6d?\]: just Pop plays just as I commented
Poney [2k\]: w is in a very difficult situation in the middle of this strength
martin3141 [2k\]: m4?
xio [7k\]: 5d playing w against 7d what would you expect? :)
]
;W[ok]
;B[pl]
;W[lj]
;B[ji]
;W[oi]
;B[pj]
;W[lh]
;B[nl]
;W[jh]
;B[ki]
;W[li]
;B[kh]
;W[kg]
;B[lg]
;W[kk]
;B[jj]
;W[jl]
;B[il]
;W[mg]
;B[lf]
;W[pg]
;B[ng]
;W[nh]
;B[og]
;W[jm]
;B[im]
;W[mf]
;B[ne]
;W[nk]
;B[ml]
;W[ol]
;B[nm]
;W[pk]
;B[qk]
;W[ql]
;B[rl]
;W[pm]
;B[rm]
;W[ph]
;B[qf]
;W[pf]
;B[qe])
(;B[kn]
;W[mm]
;B[jk]
;W[lp]
;B[mq]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: kill plz
]
;W[kq]
;B[nr]
;W[mr]
;B[lr]
;W[or]
;B[ms]
;W[oq]
;B[kr]
;W[jr]
;B[ks]C[crowis [6d?\]: it doesn't matter even if White cuts.
])
(;B[ln]C[crowis [6d?\]: if Black plays like that,
crowis [6d?\]: then..
]
;W[mn]
;B[mm]
;W[kn]
;B[lp]
;W[ln]
;B[jo]
;W[ml]
;B[nm]
;W[jl]C[xio [7k\]: nothing to split no more
crowis [6d?\]: it's much better shape than before. for White.
]))
(;W[nd]C[crowis [6d?\]: it's chance.
crowis [6d?\]: White should ignore atari
crowis [6d?\]: White should have played here
crowis [6d?\]: and..
]
;B[ic]
;W[pc]C[crowis [6d?\]: that was best variation for White.
]
(;B[oc]
;W[od]
;B[qc]
;W[pb]
;B[qb]
;W[pe]
;B[qd]
;W[mg]C[crowis [6d?\]: and destroy Black's moyo.
crowis [6d?\]: try to destroy the center.
crowis [6d?\]: it's much better.
])
(;B[qc]
;W[oc]
;B[qd]
;W[mg]C[crowis [6d?\]: much better than actual game.
])))
(;B[md]
;W[jb]
;B[mf]C[crowis [6d?\]: why Whtie played hane?
]))
(;B[jb]
;W[ic]
;B[ld]C[dutch2dan [2d\]: k18 should do the trick, I am a bit unsure about the status of the b group to the left, though
crowis [6d?\]: if Black plays like that
crowis [6d?\]: then..
]
;W[ke]C[crowis [6d?\]: Black doesn't have time to play J18
]
(;B[mc]
;W[le]
;B[md]
;W[ib]
;B[mb]
;W[jf]
;B[ie]
;W[hf]C[crowis [6d?\]: that net is workshop
crowis [6d?\]: working
crowis [6d?\]: :p
Uberdude [5d?\]: b j18 first?
])
(;B[ib]
;W[kf]C[crowis [6d?\]: two stones is not the big topic.
dutch2dan [2d\]: b atari on 2 stones first?
crowis [6d?\]: center is most important in this situation.
])
(;B[kf]C[crowis [6d?\]: so Black's best move is... this move.
]
;W[le]
;B[md]LB[mb:B][lf:A]C[crowis [6d?\]: it seems A,B are possible.
crowis [6d?\]: but..
]
;W[jf]
;B[ie]
;W[lf]C[crowis [6d?\]: White will play here
crowis [6d?\]: and
]
;B[mb]
;W[kg]C[crowis [6d?\]: ponuki.
crowis [6d?\]: it's good for White.
])))
(;W[je]
;B[kd]
;W[ie]
;B[lf]C[jjermann [2d?\]: but R16 still seems possible
crowis [6d?\]: Black is successful
]))
(;W[kd]
;B[kc]C[martin3141 [2k\]: black needs very much in center
crowis [6d?\]: that's Black's strategy.
])
(;W[kc]
;B[kd]
;W[ld]
;B[lc])
(;W[id]C[crowis [6d?\]: this hane.
]
;B[kd]
;W[ie]C[crowis [6d?\]: and aim to attack Black's big group on the upper left corner.
crowis [6d?\]: but I don' think that going to work.
crowis [6d?\]: because..
dutch2dan [2d\]: distant aim
]
;B[kf]
;W[co]
;B[bo]
;W[bn]C[jjermann [2d?\]: b sacrifice the corner?
crowis [6d?\]: if White trys to separate Black's group from the lower left corner,
crowis [6d?\]: then Black will take.
]
(;B[bm]
;W[bp]
;B[an]
;W[bq]
;B[em]C[crowis [6d?\]: and give the corner, it's not big anymore.
jjermann [2d?\]: scary
])
(;B[bp]
;W[cm]
;B[bs]C[jjermann [2d?\]: b played L17 instead of L16 hmm
]
;W[ej]C[dutch2dan [2d\]: Not j13 instead of e7?
crowis [6d?\]: if Black takes corner then it'll become danger
])))
(;W[co]
;B[bo]
;W[bn]C[crowis [6d?\]: even White cuts
]
;B[bp]
;W[bm]
;B[bs]C[crowis [6d?\]: Black  can live inside.
])
(;W[qd]
;B[qc]
;W[qe]
;B[rc]
;W[pe]
;B[od]
;W[qh]
;B[hp]C[jjermann [2d?\]: anyway, never mind
crowis [6d?\]: then there also invasion point.
])
(;W[ho]
;B[qe]C[crowis [6d?\]: big moyo and territory.
]))
(;W[co]C[crowis [6d?\]: White should have played this move,
]
(;B[do]C[crowis [6d?\]: if there's cuting point,
crowis [6d?\]: then it's possible to play.
jjermann [2d?\]: b c2 first?
crowis [6d?\]: but I don't think so
]
;W[cr]
;B[br]
;W[dr]C[jjermann [2d?\]: what if b plays C2?
])
(;B[bo]
;W[cn]
;B[bn]
;W[cm]
;B[dr]
;W[er]
;B[cr]
;W[eq]C[crowis [6d?\]: it's much better than actual game.
])))
(;B[hp]C[crowis [6d?\]: so it's proper move.
crowis [6d?\]: that's better move.
]
;W[ho]
;B[io]
;W[ip]C[jjermann [2d?\]: I still dont understand
]
;B[eo]C[jjermann [2d?\]: can w really play hane?
Uberdude [5d?\]: crowis, how do you judge that?
crowis [6d?\]: because Black still can cut White's group
Uberdude [5d?\]: just feeling of direction?
]
;W[ep]
;B[go]
;W[hn]
;B[gn]C[crowis [6d?\]: Black still can separate White's group.
Uberdude [5d?\]: or some deep reading?
])
(;B[cq]C[crowis [6d?\]: if Black plays here then..
]
;W[dq]
;B[cp]
;W[co]
;B[bo]
;W[cn]
;B[bn]
;W[cm]
;B[dr]
;W[er]
;B[cr]
;W[eq]C[crowis [6d?\]: it's good for White
crowis [6d?\]: corner is not important at this moment.
]))
(;W[fp]C[crowis [6d?\]: White should have played here
]
;B[rp]
;W[mr]C[crowis [6d?\]: White is alive anyway.
]
;B[lr]
;W[sr]C[crowis [6d?\]: White is alive anyway.
]))
(;W[jq]C[crowis [6d?\]: if White answer here,
crowis [6d?\]: then..
]
;B[fq]C[Goreon [1d\]: k5 ?
crowis [6d?\]: Black will separate White's two stones from the corner.
crowis [6d?\]: it's dangerous
])
(;W[fq]C[crowis [6d?\]: so that's proper move.
]
;B[jq]
;W[rd]TR[lo][jp]C[crowis [6d?\]: these two stones are not important.
crowis [6d?\]: and light.
Onmyoji [2d\]: i count b+44.5
]))
(;B[mo]C[Goreon [1d\]: l5 was bad move?
]
;W[jo]
;B[kn]
;W[jn]))
(;B[hp]C[jjermann [2d?\]: b cant / shouldn't play o5?
crowis [6d?\]: still Black should attack two stones
crowis [6d?\]: Black should have attacked White's two stones.
]))
(;B[hp]LB[qp:B][or:A]TR[lo][jp]C[crowis [6d?\]: I would play here
crowis [6d?\]: without exchange in the corner.
crowis [6d?\]: because, situation is not decide yet.
Javaness [2d\]: looks severe
crowis [6d?\]: so we don't konow A or B which is better
crowis [6d?\]: so just play first attack
crowis [6d?\]: and decide later on.
crowis [6d?\]: White's two stone is dangerous
crowis [6d?\]: if Black attack White's two stone, then it's good for Black.
]))
(;W[lp]C[Maroncsan [-\]: ^^''
crowis [6d?\]: that's normal answer.
]
;B[kp]C[crowis [6d?\]: just follow the normal sequence..
]
;W[ko]
;B[kq]
;W[jq]
;B[mp]
;W[lo]
;B[mq]
;W[in]
;B[np]
;W[ej]TR[pn]C[jjermann [2d?\]: no aji in the corner?
crowis [6d?\]: I think this variation would be OK for White.
crowis [6d?\]: because..
Goreon [1d\]:  m5 unususal? 
crowis [6d?\]: triangle stone is high.
crowis [6d?\]: so there still aji in the corner
crowis [6d?\]: White can live inside.
jjermann [2d?\]: wow
crowis [6d?\]: and White's last move is painful
crowis [6d?\]: how to answer?
Javaness [2d\]: D10?
crowis [6d?\]: and take this point, 
crowis [6d?\]: then still White is ahead.
]
(;B[dg]
;W[cj])
(;B[dj]
;W[dg]
;B[eg]
;W[dh]C[Javaness [2d\]: ok :)
crowis [6d?\]: White can cut immediately.
])))
(;B[fc]
;W[fd]
;B[gd]C[crowis [6d?\]: if it possible, then White's cut is an overplay
]
;W[eb]
;B[fb]
;W[gb]
;B[ea]
;W[fe]
;B[hd]
(;W[hc]
;B[id]
;W[gf]
;B[ic]
;W[ib]
;B[ga]
;W[hb]
;B[jd]
;W[kc]
;B[cb]
;W[bb]
;B[ca]
;W[kd]
;B[if]C[saimic [3k\]: d13 hurts
Medice [4d\]: not just f15 without e18 exchange?
]
;W[gh]C[crowis [6d?\]: it's difficult, but..probably, good for White.
crowis [6d?\]: Black has two weak group.
])
(;W[ic]C[crowis [6d?\]: if White plays like that
crowis [6d?\]: then..
]
;B[gf]C[crowis [6d?\]: White will die.
]
(;W[dg]
;B[ff])
(;W[ff]
;B[fg]))))
(;W[fd]C[crowis [6d?\]: I would say, that's better
]
;B[ed]C[menikmati [3k\]: ok
saimic [3k\]: w did eventually pop played?
saimic [3k\]: what*
]
;W[ff]C[crowis [6d?\]: that's painful
crowis [6d?\]: isn't it?
BinX [?\]: ^_^
ttonndaa [1d\]: I like this sequence by white
crowis [6d?\]: White should have attacked with this sequence
]
;B[dg]
;W[di]
;B[dh]
;W[gh]))
(;B[id]
;W[ic]
;B[gd]C[crowis [6d?\]: if I were Black, I probably play like that.
JoostC [4d\]: Was l16 a nice point for black
]))
(;W[fc]C[crowis [6d?\]: it's tesuji 
crowis [6d?\]: and Danek played
mgoetze [1k\]: no, o17 last real move
mgoetze [1k\]: danek just sat down again
BinX [?\]: kidocup is late ?
martin3141 [2k\]: why does w not play m4 in the game right now?
xio [7k\]: crowis, whan you played with b, did you win?
crowis [6d?\]: attach was better,
]
;B[eb]
;W[fd]
;B[ed]
;W[ff]C[crowis [6d?\]: now Black's moyo became weak group
]))
(;B[hc]C[crowis [6d?\]: it's to narrow.
mianreg [5k\]: isn't it a misuse of the thickness, then ?
crowis [6d?\]: as you can see :-)
crowis [6d?\]: oh...
jjermann [2d?\]: is this the game?
crowis [6d?\]: Pop knows that attach is very hurt.
convers [6k\]: no, it is food
crowis [6d?\]: so he plays this side.
jjermann [2d?\]: w K15?
crowis [6d?\]: for now, White is ahead.
]
;W[nc]
;B[lc]
;W[ne]
;B[pf]
;W[kd]C[turingtest [3k?\]: how can you tell in this early stage ?
crowis [6d?\]: White is comportable.
])
(;B[lc]C[crowis [6d?\]: but if Black comes from this side then..
]
;W[fc]C[crowis [6d?\]: still attach is good point
]
(;B[eb]
;W[fd]
;B[ed]
(;W[dg])
(;W[ff]
;B[dg]
;W[gh]C[crowis [6d?\]: Black's influence became weak group
crowis [6d?\]: it's totally good for White.
]))
(;B[ed]
;W[eb]C[crowis [6d?\]: of course, it's better for White too.
])))
(;B[jd]C[crowis [6d?\]: here or..
])
(;B[db]C[crowis [6d?\]: here.
menikmati [3k\]: does w have to answer d18 ?
crowis [6d?\]: White doesn't have to answer.
crowis [6d?\]: White will play divide
]
;W[kc]
(;B[mc]C[crowis [6d?\]: and if Black comes from this side
crowis [6d?\]: then..
]
;W[fc]C[crowis [6d?\]: attach.
crowis [6d?\]: that's the tesuji in this shape
]
;B[ed]
;W[fb]
;B[eb]
;W[hd]
;B[bb]
;W[ci]C[mianreg [5k\]: cute
crowis [6d?\]: White is not dangerous
])
(;B[ic]C[crowis [6d?\]: so Black should come from this side.
]))
(;B[jc]C[crowis [6d?\]: Black should have played
crowis [6d?\]: here
crowis [6d?\]: because upper side is more important than right side.
]))
(;B[db]
;W[cb]
;B[jd]C[crowis [6d?\]: it's normal.
]))
(;W[cf]C[crowis [6d?\]: anyway, if White plays here
]
(;B[df]
;W[dg]
;B[cc]
;W[db]
;B[bc]C[crowis [6d?\]: it's start to difficult variation.
dutch2dan [2d\]: c18 probably now for w
crowis [6d?\]: but nowadays, proffesional player doesn't play so offen.
])
(;B[db]
;W[cc]
;B[jc]C[crowis [6d?\]: it's fassionable one.
crowis [6d?\]: it's very simple and good for both.
])))
(;B[cf]
;W[cd]C[ttonndaa [1d\]: :)
]
;B[fq]C[Javaness [2d\]: Cristian is one of tallest european players too
Orandajinn [2k\]: ^^
crowis [6d?\]: that's usual one.
]
;W[cn]C[gfdhff [3k\]: how tall he is ?
]
;B[dg]
;W[fc]
;B[ck]
;W[dr]C[crowis [6d?\]: like that.
dutch2dan [2d\]: nadare is supposed to be ok for black with a nirensei, isn't it?
crowis [6d?\]: it's normal, but in actual game, Black choose another one.
]))