(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[5400]OT[15/300 Canadian]
GN[Kido Cup Board 2]PW[Pal Balogh]PB[Bernd Radmacher]WR[6d]BR[5d]DT[2009-10-03]EV[Kido Cup]RO[1]PC[Hamburg]US[Michael Goetze]C[Sponge7 [?\]: is this a joke?
grafzahl [8k?\]: ?
kidocup [?\]: game should start any moment
bro [3d\]: any moment :)
]
;B[qd]
;W[dc]C[bro [3d\]: go balis go
]
;B[dq]
;W[co]
;B[de]
;W[dh]C[Javaness [2d\]: *\\o/* Go Palika *\\o/*
stafan [-\]: parubalu \\o/
dafra [5k\]: what is kido cup ?
kidocup [?\]: 1st european baduk championship, sponsored by kido industrial co.
GoKlaus [?\]: www.kidocup.com
]
;B[gd]C[Javaness [2d\]: http://www.kidocup.com clickable link :)
]
;W[ep]C[kidocup [?\]: played this move very loudly, then ran out of the room ;)
]
;B[eq]
(;W[kc])
(;W[fp]
;B[gq]
;W[gp]
;B[hq]C[scurge [4d\]: how does the german rating system work? Seibt 4d 2178 isnt it to few for 4dan?	 
Gresil [7k\]: in germany anyone can promote oneself to any level which shows in the danranks.
]
;W[hp]C[scurge [4d\]: heh :)
kidocup [?\]: anyway the top group of this tournament is selected by maximum of egf rating over the past year
Gresil [7k\]: and i think countries in which rank is determined by GOR are in the minority.
Gresil [7k\]: are the player showing signs of oktoberfest-related handicap?
]
;B[ip]C[kidocup [?\]: no, we are far away from bavaria here
]
;W[iq]
;B[jq]
;W[fq]
;B[fr]
;W[ir]
;B[hr]
;W[jr]
;B[kq]
;W[kr]
;B[lq]
;W[lr]
;B[mq]
;W[mr]
;B[nq]
;W[hs]
;B[gr]C[Hiul [4k\]: ???
]
;W[nr]C[Hiul [4k\]: strange
makaki: Is this really the game? looks very bad for w
Hiul [4k\]: except if he kills the left by some miracle
plamen [1k\]: i cant see B die in the left
Hiul [4k\]: me neither
plamen [1k\]: b3 is W best attack
]
;B[cp]
;W[bp]C[Hiul [4k\]: i thought about it too but it don't seemed to kill
plamen [1k\]: yes b3b2
scurge [4d\]: i think white could have kiilled it
martin3141 [2k\]: after this, white can double-hane at p3 - q4
plamen [1k\]: B keeps sente here?
Maroncsan [-\]: yup
Hiul [4k\]: yup but it's black turn he should play at b3 ?
plamen [1k\]: i see B p3
Hiul [4k\]: ar too slow at wrighting
]
;B[bq]
;W[dp]
;B[cq]
;W[io]C[Hiul [4k\]: do black take the corner and let white eat j4 ?
a22 [-\]: no
Maroncsan [-\]: no way
fozol [1d\]: kidocup, pairing or results are available anywhere on internet?
Cornel [7d\]: ondrej silt and ian simara also playing in this tourney ?
grafzahl [8k?\]: kidocup.com
bro [3d\]: Cornel, yes they should play
bro [3d\]: total winners of course :)
martin3141 [2k\]: this result looks so bad for w ... w so low and still much aji against e4-group
Cornel [7d\]: :)
makaki: hm, but b k3 group also a bit heavy now
]
;B[pq]
;W[jp]C[kidocup [?\]: capture was again extremely loud
Orandajinn [2k\]: lool
a22 [-\]: b lost
Orandajinn [2k\]: i like pal balogh
kidocup [?\]: maybe he's testing whether the shell stones are good :)
kidocup [?\]: ondrej and jan are playing, yes
bro [3d\]: do you know their opponents? 
kidocup [?\]: see http://www.kidocup.com - all the preregistered except ilya showed up
kidocup [?\]: ondrej against w.-k. pomstra
kidocup [?\]: simara against lutz franke
bro [3d\]: thanks
makaki: hard to believe b let w capture
Cornel [7d\]: ok, thx
]
;B[cc]C[kidocup [?\]: also on board 4 fj vs. f. blomback
bro [3d\]: should be easy round for czech tourists :)
kidocup [?\]: well i wouldn't call danek's game easy ;)
bro [3d\]: so far, so far :))
YliGo [-\]: are there any results from the first round to be found?
kidocup [?\]: everyone still playing
]
;W[eb]
;B[cj]C[Sponge7 [?\]: he has guts
kidocup [?\]: hm balogh had a stone in his hand for a moment but he put it away again
Cal [1d\]: how much time left for both players?
kidocup [?\]: balogh 53min left radmacher 58min lft
Cal [1d\]: danke
kidocup [?\]: in other news, i think fj is trying to win the "best dressed" prize
kidocup [?\]: he is wearing a traditional korean outfit i believe
klausP [4d\]: is this game Go?
kidocup [?\]: also, i would like to thank oromedia and yoon young-sun 5p for helping to organise this event
kidocup [?\]: no klaus, as you can see it must be chess because they are taking so long for the moves ;)
klausP [4d\]: all i know about capturing and important lines seems to be ignored here....
klausP [4d\]: good one kido
Moin9 [5k\]: wow this game seems very slow...
kidocup [?\]: hand on the bowl...
kidocup [?\]: nope, put the stone back again
]
;W[ei]
;B[dd]
;W[cb]C[kidocup [?\]: played this move in the same motion as sitting down (he just came back)
]
;B[ec]
;W[db]
;B[bh]
;W[cg]
;B[cm]
;W[fc]
;B[gf]
;W[fd]
;B[fe]
;W[he]
;B[hd]
;W[qp]C[kidocup [?\]: i wonder how much time balogh has spent practicing banging the stones on the board as loudly as possible
Javaness [2d\]: i heard 1 hour a day
]
;B[po]C[makaki: ah, I see, this is also about ladder
]
;W[pp]C[kidocup [?\]: hm he couldn't bang the stone so nicely there, so he slapped the clock very loudly instead
grafzahl [8k?\]: kido do u have eurogotv stream?
]
;B[op]
;W[qq]C[kidocup [?\]: no, there was a network problem, sorry
grafzahl [8k?\]: hmm  will it get online the next games? 
fantastigo [2d\]: how much time do they have left?
kidocup [?\]: don't think so, grafzahl
kidocup [?\]: balogh 24m left, radmacher 30m
fantastigo [2d\]: they have a long way to go! What is the byoyomi?
kidocup [?\]: 15/5
fantastigo [2d\]: thank you
]
;B[qo]
;W[oo]
;B[pr]
;W[qr]
;B[on]
;W[no]
;B[ps]C[woidler [6k?\]: m5? :-)
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: just s5 is good enough i think
]
;W[ro]
;B[rn]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: t4 probably
kidocup [?\]: bernd just getting news from his wife that the rest of his family won their games ;)
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: lol
]
;W[rp]
;B[pn]
;W[qm]
;B[mn]
;W[nn]
;B[nm]
;W[mo]C[woidler [6k?\]: this doesn't look all that good for w, does it?
woidler [6k?\]: for b I mean
fantastigo [2d\]: yeah
]
;B[qn]
;W[mm]C[fantastigo [2d\]: he has to kill the corner
]
;B[ol]
;W[ml]C[makaki: even ko in corner would be good for w
fantastigo [2d\]: S2 looks alive to me
martin3141 [2k\]: if w gets to play there first, life is easy
ThePoint [1d\]: at least black has to spend 5 moves in the corner
]
;B[qs]C[fantastigo [2d\]: thats the point
]
;W[rr]C[kidocup [?\]: balogh 18 radmacher 13 mins left
]
;B[rs]C[chong [4k\]: i think white is dead in the corner
ToDie [2d\]: it´s ko
fantastigo [2d\]: but a seven step ko
ToDie [2d\]: no
ToDie [2d\]: w t3 and it is dorect ko i think
]
;W[sq]
;B[so]
;W[oq]C[fantastigo [2d\]: b has 5 liberties
]
;B[or]C[ToDie [2d\]: 2 steps for w, ok
]
;W[kp]C[fantastigo [2d\]: b t1?
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: this is ko...
ToDie [2d\]: t1 doesn´t work
ToDie [2d\]: then b is short
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: yes
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: very bad result for black
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: but amazing pal saw that so fast when he played n8
martin3141 [2k\]: this is two-step-ko for w
ywyw [2k\]: b should move on 
ywyw [2k\]: r13
]
;B[ie]
;W[ok]C[kidocup [?\]: balogh chewing on his cup while watching the analysis on board 1
]
;B[pk]
;W[pj]C[ttonndaa [1d\]: lol, seems interested in the game :D
]
;B[qj]C[Chilltime [2k\]: q8 r9 n8?
Chilltime [2k\]: o8 sr
Gresil [7k\]: there is power in the triple hane
Chilltime [2k\]: q8 r9 o8
]
;W[qk]
;B[pl]C[ToDie [2d\]: seems nice
]
;W[qi]C[ToDie [2d\]: i like your sequence
Chilltime [2k\]: but pal doesnt xD
ToDie [2d\]: but maybe this is even better
]
;B[rj]C[Chilltime [2k\]: hm s11 now
Chilltime [2k\]: ?
kidocup [?\]: i would play p10
Bochum [-\]: gogo bernd! 
zima [2k\]: o9 
Chilltime [2k\]: hm i would try q11
derPlumps [3d?\]: die spielen voll komisch
]
;W[pi]
;B[ri]
;W[rh]
;B[rk]
;W[oc]
;B[qg]C[Bochum [-\]: kidocup, has FJ already finished his game?
kidocup [?\]: i don't know, other room
KoReNJe [3d\]: why do I think t2 is important...
Bochum [-\]: ok, thx
]
;W[pd]C[kidocup [?\]: 3mins till bernd is in byoyomi
KoReNJe [3d\]: w wall has so much potential
KoReNJe [3d\]: d9 seems huge
]
;B[qe]
;W[qc]
;B[rc]
;W[rb]
;B[qb]
;W[pb]
;B[pc]
;W[er]C[makaki: ignore
derPlumps [3d?\]: throw away this clump of stones =)
]
;B[qc]C[makaki: meaningless 5 stones
]
;W[dr]C[kidocup [?\]: byoyomi now
derPlumps [3d?\]: slow player =)
Isobeutel [8k\]: for whom?
derPlumps [3d?\]: how much time for pal balogh
kidocup [?\]: bernd... but pal will follow soon
kidocup [?\]: 5mins or so
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: i dont agree with pal´s threat
Isobeutel [8k\]: ok
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: he could have played d9 for example
]
;B[nk]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: im sure black caught up a lot with this
]
;W[bo]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: oh but b should have lived with b5 for sure
derPlumps [3d?\]: painful now for black
makaki: surprising
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: hmm
derPlumps [3d?\]: not played c2 nor b5
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: anyway white is ahead
ToDie [2d\]: b going to get the whole upper right part of the board :D
makaki: so it became a good threat :)
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: still i dont like
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: the ko was bigger
chong [4k\]: m6
]
;B[sn]C[martin3141 [2k\]: living in corner would have weakened c7
martin3141 [2k\]: but still ...
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: but its sente living basically
]
;W[lp]
;B[sp]
;W[np]
;B[sr]
;W[ss]
;B[oq]
;W[je]C[makaki: I agree with w that b started ko too early
]
;B[jf]
;W[id]
;B[if]C[Taketombo [5k\]: is o1 double ko?
]
;W[ic]C[kidocup [?\]: no
]
;B[ke]
;W[kc]
;B[lc]
;W[lb]C[Taketombo [5k\]: oops... ofc
]
;B[gb]
;W[gc]
;B[hc]
;W[hb]
;B[ge]
;W[jb]
;B[mc]
;W[mb]
;B[nc]
;W[ob]
;B[ne]
;W[od]C[kidocup [?\]: 3m17s left for pal
kidocup [?\]: bernd just got his second set of stones
]
;B[lj]
;W[pf]
;B[of]
;W[pe]
;B[pg]
;W[qf]C[makaki: b's remaining chance was big moyo at right, but he made a small moyo
Taketombo [5k\]: if he wins the ko though
Taketombo [5k\]: very different
]
;B[rg]
;W[rf]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: very painful
]
;B[re]
;W[sg]C[makaki: game over
]
;B[ng]C[Javaness [2d\]: wow
]
;W[dk]
;B[ck]
;W[dl]
;B[bg]
;W[qh]
;B[sd]
;W[sf]
;B[dn]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: black is in pain everywhere
]
;W[cl]
;B[bl]
;W[bm]C[martin3141 [2k\]: w can still make a ko with r19, right?
]
;B[bn]
;W[cn]
;B[am]
;W[dm]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: yes
]
;B[sr]C[martin3141 [2k\]: poor black ...
]
;W[qa]
;B[ra]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: so upper right corner is dead
]
;W[sa]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: cant win 2 kos :)
Javaness [2d\]: can try to win both
]
;B[sb]
;W[sc]C[ToDie [2d\]: he can
]
;B[si]
;W[oh]C[ToDie [2d\]: lower right is a two step ko for w
]
;B[sb]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: well theoretically, yes
]
;W[bm]C[Chilltime [2k\]: lower right is a 3 step ko?
ToDie [2d\]: i agree that it´s very hard and cannot end up well for b
]
;B[og]C[Chilltime [2k\]: one is take ko
]
;W[sh]C[Chilltime [2k\]: 2 approach
Chilltime [2k\]: and then take?
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: no just one approach
]
;B[ra]
;W[ci]
;B[bj]
;W[ss]
;B[dj]
;W[ej]
;B[sr]C[makaki: l9
]
;W[ql]C[kidocup [?\]: ignore?
Miller [5k\]: you tell us ) 
makaki: but no chance to win on points for b
]
;B[pm]C[martin3141 [2k\]: b7 was wrong?
]
;W[ss]C[Javaness [2d\]: here it comes
]
;B[cr]
;W[fs]
;B[sr]
;W[rl]
;B[sl]
;W[ss]
;B[nb]
;W[na]
;B[sr]
;W[sk]
;B[rm]
;W[ss]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: who
zima [2k\]: p19 
makaki: w should not play threats, just normal moves
KoReNJe [3d\]: d1
]
;B[bc]
;W[cf]C[kidocup [?\]: oh, apparently fj lost :(
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: against?
kidocup [?\]: balogh now in byoyomi
kidocup [?\]: f. blomback iirc
]
;B[ch]
;W[di]C[Bochum [-\]: fj losing... damn
Bochum [-\]: gogo bernd! :)
]
;B[be]
;W[bi]
;B[ai]
;W[an]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: oh fredrerik
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: nice
zima [2k\]: h10 
]
;B[sr]
;W[al]C[iaznab [13k?\]: why doesn't b resign?
iaznab [13k?\]: am I missing something?
]
;B[bf]
;W[ss]C[Gering [?\]: if he resigns he can't win
makaki: w 20 ahead
zima [2k\]: hehe
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: more
iaznab [13k?\]: in this game if he plays on, he can't win
]
;B[ha]
;W[ib]
;B[sr]C[Chilltime [2k\]: bernd should be feeling worse than me playing jun on mond
Chilltime [2k\]: a
Chilltime [2k\]: ^^
Chilltime [2k\]: *monda
Chilltime [2k\]: *monday
Chilltime [2k\]: now i got it right
Chilltime [2k\]: ^^
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: but i dont understand
Hoppi: congratz
Chilltime [2k\]: what are you not understanding?
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: i dont even remember playing you
]
(;W[kk]C[Chilltime [2k\]: :-(
Chilltime [2k\]: *sob*
])
(;W[jk]C[Chilltime [2k\]: maybe you were too drunken
Chilltime [2k\]: wait thats my part generally -.-
]
;B[rq]C[makaki: oh, now w 35 ahead
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: did we really ply?
iaznab [13k?\]: j11
]
;W[ij]
;B[ll]
;W[kl]
;B[lm]
;W[ln]C[Chilltime [2k\]: not this monday but 2 weeks earlierer ^^
]
;B[hi]
;W[hj]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: ah
Javaness [2d\]: \\o/ Go Palika \\o/
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: how am i supposed to remember that :P
broiler [4d\]: kann man irgendwo die Ergebnisse der anderen Turniere nachlesen?
]
;B[gi]
;W[gj]C[Chilltime [2k\]: was sind die anderen tuniere?
Chilltime [2k\]: jugend frauen?
zima [2k\]: a10 
Chilltime [2k\]: erst nach dem tunier wahrscheinlich
broiler [4d\]: Herren
Bochum [-\]: is there going to be a comment by in-seong?
Chilltime [2k\]: h7 now and tr to live
kidocup [?\]: bernd loses on time
Chilltime [2k\]: yay
kidocup [?\]: "but i think i could resign anyway"
Chilltime [2k\]: lol
kidocup [?\]: thanks for watching, see you soon for round 2
Bochum [-\]: thx for relaying
Javaness [2d\]: thanks
kidocup [?\]: ondrej wins against willemkoen by 2.5 points
])))