(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[5400]OT[15/300 Canadian]
GN[Kido Cup Board 2]PW[Benjamin Teuber]PB[Ondrej Silt]WR[6d]BR[6d]DT[2009-10-03]EV[Kido Cup]RO[2]PC[Hamburg]US[Michael Goetze]
(;B[pd])
(;B[qd]
;W[dc]
;B[dp]
;W[pp]
;B[ce]
;W[ed]
;B[oc]
;W[qi]
;B[ci]
;W[fq]
;B[dn]
;W[nq]
;B[eq]
;W[fp]
;B[ip]
;W[kq]
;B[hq]
;W[fn]
;B[im]
;W[fl]
;B[gm]
;W[hn]
;B[fm]
;W[em]
(;B[gl])
(;B[en]
;W[hm]
;B[gl]
;W[hl]
;B[gk]
;W[gn]
;B[kp]
;W[lp]
;B[ko]
;W[jq]
;B[in]
;W[km]
;B[jl]
;W[hk]
;B[gj]
(;W[io]
;B[ho]
;W[jo]
;B[jp]
;W[jn]
;B[lo]
;W[mp]
(;B[lm]
;W[kl]
;B[ll]C[crowis [6d?\]: now Black just give it away 3stones
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: so at this position black is good, right?
]
;W[il]
;B[lk]
;W[mn]
;B[mo]
;W[no]
;B[nn]C[crowis [6d?\]: I thought this cut is overplay,
crowis [6d?\]: but it works.
]
;W[nm]
;B[on]C[GoShinobi [-\]: hey in-seong , why arent you playing at kido cup ?
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: @goshinobi: because only european nationalities are allowed to play in top groupe
crowis [6d?\]: sorry there was really bad connection,
GoShinobi [-\]: wirklich ? 
GoShinobi [-\]: aso 
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: ja
crowis [6d?\]: and now I found nice place for the connection :-)
]
;W[om]
;B[oo]
(;W[np]
;B[pm]
;W[mm]
;B[pl]
;W[nk]
;B[ln]
;W[ok]C[crowis [6d?\]: White should attack both group of Black,
crowis [6d?\]: but it's hard.
]
;B[qo]
;W[qp]
;B[qj]
;W[pj]
;B[rj]
;W[li]
;B[jk]
;W[jm]
;B[kk]
;W[hj]
;B[ji]C[crowis [6d?\]: it seems Black is better
GoShinobi [-\]: black really much teritory in left
]
;W[gi]
;B[el]
;W[kg]
;B[ih]
;W[hh]
;B[if]
;W[hg]
;B[ig]
;W[ke]
;B[id]
;W[he]
;B[hf]
;W[gf]
;B[ge]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: again b resists peep
crowis [6d?\]: both player are not answer when their opponent peeps.
]
;W[gd]
;B[fe]
;W[hd]
(;B[ie]
;W[kc]
;B[jc]
(;W[ff]
;B[kb]
;W[lc]
;B[lb]
(;W[nc]
;B[mc]
;W[md]
;B[mb]
;W[nd]
;B[nb]C[crowis [6d?\]: hmm..locally, Black connected very well.
]
;W[cg]
;B[ee]
;W[df]
;B[de]
;W[ib]C[AukaD [1k?\]: i have a question.
crowis [6d?\]: Black's 5stones are alive.
]
(;B[jb]
;W[hc]
;B[cc]
;W[cb]C[crowis [6d?\]: even Black can live inside, like actual game.
]
;B[bb]C[crowis [6d?\]: so...
abit [10k?\]: l4 have 2 eyes?
mgoetze [1k\]: so good for black?
crowis [6d?\]: so game is..good for Black.
]
(;W[db]
;B[bd]C[crowis [6d?\]: ah,  my name is Hwang in-seong 7dan player from Korea, and I'm officially review this game from the tournament place.
iTengen [3k\]: any way for b to attack L13 stones?
crowis [6d?\]: there are about 230participants came
crowis [6d?\]: hmm..
Syptryn [3d\]: mm
crowis [6d?\]: even there's aji in upper left White's group.
crowis [6d?\]: if White plays else where
crowis [6d?\]: then..
]
(;W[bf]C[Beldur [?\]: S5 so big :/
]
(;B[dg]
;W[dh]
;B[eg]LB[fc:B][dd:A]C[crowis [6d?\]: so this move is like..indirect defense.
crowis [6d?\]: so in black's side, he doesn't like to play A,B exchange,
]
;W[ef]
;B[cf]
;W[eh]
;B[bg]C[crowis [6d?\]: so he try to find other way
]
;W[ch]
;B[bh]
;W[dj]C[Syptryn [3d\]: can't black kill whitr grp now?
crowis [6d?\]: hmm, but now, aji has gone, anyway.
crowis [6d?\]: because..
]
(;B[gb]C[Syptryn [3d\]: well looks like balck trying :)
]
;W[hb]C[crowis [6d?\]: uh-huh_
]
;B[fd]
;W[fc]
;B[fb]C[crowis [6d?\]: ye, try is not damage, so worth to try maybe :p
]
(;W[fa]
(;B[dd]C[crowis [6d?\]: if it's saki, then a little profit for Black
crowis [6d?\]: it's ko, happened.
crowis [6d?\]: so
crowis [6d?\]: White..
]
(;W[ga]
(;B[ck]
;W[cj]
;B[bj]
;W[di]
;B[bi]TR[ck]C[crowis [6d?\]: so..triangle move wasn't good.
]
(;W[cq]C[crowis [6d?\]: Black hard to kill this 3-3point.
crowis [6d?\]: White recovered little.
seppy [5k?\]: c4?
]
(;B[er]
;W[co]C[crowis [6d?\]: in this situation,
crowis [6d?\]: it's hard to kill
crowis [6d?\]: already.
crowis [6d?\]: ah..
]
;B[cp]
;W[bp]
;B[cn]
(;W[bo]C[crowis [6d?\]: why did White link here_
crowis [6d?\]: ?
crowis [6d?\]: that was losing move
]
;B[cr]
;W[br]
;B[dq]
;W[bq]
;B[bs]C[crowis [6d?\]: e_
crowis [6d?\]: e?
]
(;W[bn]
(;B[bm]C[crowis [6d?\]: still no problem for Black.
]
;W[dl]C[tiflis: in your sequence white could live with c1 I think
]
;B[dm]
;W[cl]
;B[bl]
;W[dk]
;B[cm]C[crowis [6d?\]: White nearly no gain.
]
;W[ro]
;B[qn]
;W[rn]
;B[rm]
(;W[rd]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: what do you think about blacks answers after s5?
]
;B[qe]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: it looks a bit soft to me, i was expecting R12 or so
]
;W[qc]
(;B[re]
;W[pc]
;B[od]C[crowis [6d?\]: oh even worse
]
;W[pb]C[crowis [6d?\]: so Black doesn't have to play 2-2
schwing [1k\]: I would love w to kill the entire black dragon
]
(;B[rb]
;W[rc]C[schwing [1k\]: didn't want you to stop analyzing :)
]
;B[ob]
;W[se]
;B[sd]C[crowis [6d?\]: oh..it doesn't work.
]
;W[sc]
;B[rg]
;W[ri]C[grap [2k\]: still no resign ?
mgoetze [1k\]: white resigned after t16
schwing [1k\]: kidocup [?\]: white resigns
grap [2k\]: oh ok
crowis [6d?\]: oh..
schwing [1k\]: o.O
crowis [6d?\]: ok.
])
(;B[rb]C[crowis [6d?\]: locally, it's dead
crowis [6d?\]: but..
schwing [1k\]: group_s_
]
;W[ob]
;B[pd]
;W[rc]
;B[sd]
;W[sb]
;B[ra]
;W[oa]
;B[qa]
;W[qg]C[crowis [6d?\]: matter of Black's group.
])
(;B[ob]C[crowis [6d?\]: just link
]
;W[rb]
;B[ni]LB[sd:A]C[crowis [6d?\]: and still attack.
crowis [6d?\]: can attack.
schwing [1k\]: can w cut, instead of live?
crowis [6d?\]: and with A, corner is ko.
]))
(;B[pc]
;W[qb]
;B[re]
;W[sc]
;B[se]
;W[ra]
;B[pb]
;W[sb]
;B[ni]C[crowis [6d?\]: White's middle group is dangerous
crowis [6d?\]: White's middle group is in danger
]))
(;W[po]
;B[pn]
;W[ri]
;B[pk]
;W[pi]
;B[rl]C[crowis [6d?\]: Black can live.
]))
(;B[cl]
;W[bm]
;B[bl]
;W[do]
;B[eo]
;W[ep]
;B[fr]
;W[ds]
;B[dr]
;W[gr]
;B[gq]
;W[fs]
;B[fo]))
(;W[do]
;B[eo]
;W[ep]
;B[fr]C[crowis [6d?\]: it looks...pretty dead
]))
(;W[br]C[crowis [6d?\]: it's alive
crowis [6d?\]: at least.
GoShinobi [-\]: he thought he can cut i think 
crowis [6d?\]: it's alive definitely.
])
(;W[ro]
;B[qn]
;W[rn]
;B[rm]
;W[br]
;B[bo]
;W[ao]
;B[bn]
;W[dr]C[crowis [6d?\]: if White live like that
crowis [6d?\]: then..
crowis [6d?\]: White is still in the game.
crowis [6d?\]: I can't say ahead.
schwing [1k\]: but b sente
crowis [6d?\]: but still playable.
crowis [6d?\]: so.. hmm
crowis [6d?\]: I should ask to Benjamin
crowis [6d?\]: :p
schwing [1k\]: ^^
crowis [6d?\]: thanks for watch and see you tomorrow!
schwing [1k\]: thx for reviewing
crowis [6d?\]: at the 3rd round begin!
Jonka [5k\]: thanx for commenting ,-)
crowis [6d?\]: bye!
schwing [1k\]: bye
]))
(;B[cp]
;W[er]C[crowis [6d?\]: it's kind of compromise move.
makaki: Was not also s5 big for w instead of 3-3?
crowis [6d?\]: but in this situation, White will satisfied
Pinguschaf [4d?\]: what would you play?
])
(;B[er]C[Pinguschaf [4d?\]: c5
crowis [6d?\]: if Black try to cut, then 
]
;W[co]C[crowis [6d?\]: jump is good move.
crowis [6d?\]: it seems alive
])
(;B[dr]C[reki7 [3d?\]: what about d3 instead of e2?
crowis [6d?\]: so normally, that's bad move.
crowis [6d?\]: but now should be better than other one
]
(;W[co]C[crowis [6d?\]: I found White's good move.
]
;B[cn]
;W[do]
;B[eo]
;W[ep]
;B[dq]
;W[cp]
;B[cr]
;W[br]
;B[bs]
;W[ar]
;B[bo]C[crowis [6d?\]: now.
]
(;W[bp]
;B[ap]
;W[bq]
;B[fr]
;W[bn]
;B[ao]C[crowis [6d?\]: something like that
schwing [1k\]: o.O
makaki: wow, a5
])
(;W[ap]C[crowis [6d?\]: jump
crowis [6d?\]: it's rememberable move
crowis [6d?\]: memoriable :p
]
(;B[fr]C[crowis [6d?\]: if Black connect
crowis [6d?\]: then..
]
;W[bn]
;B[bm]
;W[an]C[crowis [6d?\]: alive
])
(;B[bn]C[crowis [6d?\]: so Black should link
crowis [6d?\]: then..
]
;W[fr]
;B[bp]
;W[bq]
;B[ao]
;W[er]
;B[aq]C[crowis [6d?\]: ko.
crowis [6d?\]: it's success for White.
crowis [6d?\]: huh..
])))
(;W[bo]
;B[br]
;W[bm]
;B[bl])))
(;W[dl]C[crowis [6d?\]: locally, that atari is working
]
;B[dm]
;W[cl]))
(;B[eb]
;W[ec]C[Syptryn [3d\]: dun work
schwing [1k\]: to make  damezumari
schwing [1k\]: ?
]
(;B[ia]
(;W[da]C[crowis [6d?\]: saki
crowis [6d?\]: alive
schwing [1k\]: ah, of couse not :D
schwing [1k\]: ty
])
(;W[ca]
;B[ea]C[schwing [1k\]: throw in possible instead of J19=
]
;W[ha]C[crowis [6d?\]: oh, alive, even better for White.
]))
(;B[ha]
;W[ia]C[schwing [1k\]: is the throwin wearth anything?
crowis [6d?\]: alive
])))
(;W[eb]
;B[ga]C[schwing [1k\]: what about g19 e18 ?
schwing [1k\]: w g19 b e18
]
;W[da]
;B[ea])
(;W[ga]C[crowis [6d?\]: so that's right point.
]
(;B[ec]
;W[eb]C[crowis [6d?\]: it's simplely alive
])
(;B[ea]
;W[ha]
(;B[ec]
;W[eb]C[crowis [6d?\]: same
])
(;B[eb]
;W[ec]
;B[ca]
;W[gc]C[crowis [6d?\]: also alive
]))))
(;B[eb]C[crowis [6d?\]: e...
crowis [6d?\]: it seems dangerous
]
;W[ec]C[Syptryn [3d\]: looks liek seki to me
]
(;B[ia]
;W[ba]
;B[bc]
;W[ha]
;B[ca]
;W[ea]C[crowis [6d?\]: it's alive with saki
])
(;B[ca]
;W[da]
;B[ia]
;W[ha]C[crowis [6d?\]: so it's possible for white
])))
(;W[gc]
;B[eb]
;W[ea]
;B[ca]C[crowis [6d?\]: ?
crowis [6d?\]: it's dead shape
])
(;W[eb]
;B[ca]
;W[fa]LB[ga:B][dd:A]C[crowis [6d?\]: it's alive
]))
(;B[fd]
;W[fc]
;B[gb]
;W[hb]
;B[fb]
(;W[dd]
(;B[cd])
(;B[gc]))
(;W[gc]
;B[ca]
;W[dd]C[Syptryn [3d\]: aha
crowis [6d?\]: that is sente, so...Black also has weakness, so hard to try to kill.
])))
(;B[dd]
;W[fc]C[crowis [6d?\]: if Black plays this exchange, 
crowis [6d?\]: then aji has gone.
]
;B[be]
;W[ro]C[crowis [6d?\]: then White can play else where.
]))
(;W[as]
;B[gb]C[crowis [6d?\]: that's working
]
(;W[fd]
;B[hb])
(;W[hb]
;B[fd]
;W[fc]
;B[fb]
;W[gc]
;B[ca]C[crowis [6d?\]: something like that, so..White is hard to play else where
])))
(;W[db]
;B[bd]
;W[bf]
;B[be]LB[dd:A][cf:B]C[crowis [6d?\]: it's alive.
]))
(;B[jb]
(;W[bg]C[crowis [6d?\]: if White cuts, then..
]
;B[fd]
;W[fc]
;B[gc]
;W[hc]
;B[gb]C[crowis [6d?\]: that's working
])
(;W[fd]C[crowis [6d?\]: if White link here, then..
]
;B[dg]
;W[dh]
;B[bg]C[crowis [6d?\]: can connect to the side.
])))
(;W[pc]C[crowis [6d?\]: that's local technic.
]
;B[pd]
;W[mb]
;B[mc]
;W[nc]
;B[md]
;W[ob]
;B[od]
;W[qc]C[crowis [6d?\]: like that.
crowis [6d?\]: but in this situation,
]
(;B[kd])
(;B[ni]C[crowis [6d?\]: White's group also weak,
crowis [6d?\]: so it's impossible..
])))
(;W[kb]C[crowis [6d?\]: if White answer,
crowis [6d?\]: then..
crowis [6d?\]: so answer is still possible.
]
;B[ee]
;W[fg]
;B[fd]
;W[fc]
;B[gc]
;W[hc]
;B[gb]
;W[hb]
;B[fb]
;W[jb]C[crowis [6d?\]: Black will try to cut,
crowis [6d?\]: but it also ok for white.
]))
(;B[gg]
;W[ff]
;B[gh]
;W[hi]
;B[ef]
;W[fg]
;B[fh]
;W[eg]
;B[eh]
;W[dg]
;B[ee]
;W[de]
;B[df]
;W[cf]C[crowis [6d?\]: it doesn't work.
]))
(;W[pn]
;B[np]
;W[op]C[crowis [6d?\]: that would be better than actual game.
]))
(;B[jk]
;W[kl]TR[jk][kl]C[crowis [6d?\]: if there were exchange already, then totally good for White.
]))
(;W[kl]C[crowis [6d?\]: white should have played this push first,
crowis [6d?\]: because..in the game,
]))))