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RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[60]OT[1x30 byo-yomi]
GN[European Team Championship Go 2009]PW[Catalin Taranu]PB[Kare Jantunen]WR[5p]BR[4d]DT[2009-10-09]EV[European Team Championship Go 2009]RO[1]PC[Romania]
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;B[fe]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast at http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
shUdonNome [2k\]: really a 4d even against a 5p? is that fair?
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;W[dd]C[bro [3d\]: EurogoTV1 : do you know the other pairing pls? 
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;B[fc]
;W[cc]C[seppy [5k\]: eurogo there are no stones in the board
Maroncsan [-\]: yeah ... :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, sorry, i had to fix the roadcast, have no clue what happens elsewere
Cookiex [-\]: i see roln is playing in this tournament, am i seeing this right?
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;B[df]C[Frusciante [1d\]: wow great roln
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;W[ec]C[bro [3d\]: Eurogotv: np :)
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;B[db]C[TheCount [2k\]: is this joseki?
seppy [5k\]: wow taranu got fatter
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;W[eb]
;B[fb]C[Maroncsan [-\]: roln is not supposed to play is he?
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;W[cb]C[miao [5d\]: seemsintresting
Moin9 [5k\]: well this a joseki?? 
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;B[ge]C[Moin9 [5k\]: i can't believe it...
Lovepove [6k\]: Is it really 1 minute per player? :p
mythical [3k\]: dont think this is joseki
tonynogo [7k\]: lol sure not ^^
TheCount [2k\]: i think joseki had b connecting
Cookiex [-\]: is the broadcast lagging for you guys too?
Neospring [4k\]: seems like d12 is getting very popular to play
Maroncsan [-\]: it's not the game common :)
Moin9 [5k\]: I think it is a variation of Catalin Taranu's side
Maroncsan [-\]: it's lagging like hell -.-
mythical [3k\]: he probably went out of joseki and got punished  :)
miao [5d\]: no
sarno [2d\]: it would've been a surprise if kare had played joseki
sameasyou [2d\]: is Shikshin really yhere?
Thew [1k\]: yep, laggedylaglag
TheCount [2k\]: miao, no, this is not joseki, or no, he didn't go out of joseki?
Maroncsan [-\]: not regged at least
spherical [-\]: this is the year of our lord 1582
Moin9 [5k\]: He 's a player who try to read constantly a step further or he will aim at some position which hepl him 
k43r [1k\]: wchich one of them is roln?
bloodynewb [6k\]: white is a pro gamer?
TheCount [2k\]: glad to hear someone does that, moin
Maroncsan [-\]: none of them O.o
Syptryn [3d\]: mm
Syptryn [3d\]: this certainly isn't joseki
Syptryn [3d\]: might feeling is white got tricked
Syptryn [3d\]: might = my
sameasyou [2d\]: yes...b looks ok
Syptryn [3d\]: there's similar trick plat wiuth black playing E-17 instead of F-17
Syptryn [3d\]: followed by cut
dazzlas: a pro getting tricked by an ama 4d?
Syptryn [3d\]: plat = play
Maroncsan [-\]: lol
sameasyou [2d\]: Kare Jantunen is from Finland?
Lacrimosa [1d?\]: yes
Syptryn [3d\]: white can't be satsified with just the corner though...
miao [5d\]: not just corner
miao [5d\]: d13 aji
Syptryn [3d\]: true
sameasyou [2d\]: nevertheless b looks great
Syptryn [3d\]: yeah
Syptryn [3d\]: agree
mythical [3k\]: also B will have to play another move on top
Moin9 [5k\]: Yes a amateur can trick a profi as well. They are players like us but they train their skills harder
Moin9 [5k\]: Catalin taranu is a Pro!
Syptryn [3d\]: black seems a little better for in this exchange
sameasyou [2d\]: they used to train :)
bloodynewb [6k\]: they are not like me :)
sameasyou [2d\]: I think Catalin si more busy now with other things than training
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV roadcast shoud work again
Thew [1k\]: thank you.
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;W[he]C[Syptryn [3d\]: well there fores D-13 aji...
Syptryn [3d\]: fores = goes
miao [5d\]: m yeah
grissom [3d\]: h16?
Moin9 [5k\]: why give white Black this shape?
miao [5d\]: but still d11 and c11
StefanRadu [2d?\]: Romania has such a strong team!
Moin9 [5k\]: Cristian Pop as well
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: is sound ok?
HorseHorse [3k\]: no
Moin9 [5k\]: which sound?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: what is the prolem?
spherical [-\]: christian pop sounds awful
HorseHorse [3k\]: tv sound
bloodynewb [6k\]: i think there is my old physic prof in background :))))
markpi [5k?\]: is there a list of teams / players involved?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: see my info
StefanRadu [2d?\]: Catalin Taranu 5p. Cristian Pop 7d. Cornel Burzo 6d. Lucian Corlan 5d. Go Romania!
sameasyou [2d\]: no
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no sound at all?
sameasyou [2d\]: Catalin, Popica, Dragos and Cornel
dazzlas: can we rather have Islamic Reggae instead of Christian Pop?
HorseHorse [3k\]: there is a kind of buzzing
jojo1 [8k\]: harry
Javaness [2d\]: who is in russia-1
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hi judith
daladim [1d\]: xD dazzlas
Javaness [2d\]: harry, drink a beer for me
jojo1 [8k\]: geen tv??????
sameasyou [2d\]: I don't think Russia 1 is there
jojo1 [8k\]: hi
StefanRadu [2d?\]: salut sameasyou. 
sameasyou [2d\]: there is some team from Russia
Clynch [10k\]: Aomt 2 stronger than B?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: eurogotv1 is on or not?
jojo1 [8k\]: no
tonynogo [7k\]: H15 for the cut F16?
Javaness [2d\]: i see TV
StefanRadu [2d?\]: l-am confundat pe dragos cu lucian:P
HorseHorse [3k\]: tv stream ok, but sound terrible
bloodynewb [6k\]: does anyone has a fluent stream?
sameasyou [2d\]: we should ask Catalin for a sound probe 
jojo1 [8k\]: off line
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: refresh
Moin9 [5k\]: maybe Taranu is trying to start a douple attack with the use of H15
Javaness [2d\]: really, russia only sent a junior city team?
Thew [1k\]: h16 only move.
sameasyou [2d\]: yup
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;B[hd]C[sameasyou [2d\]: probably too far and not important for them
Moin9 [5k\]: Now it is important how Black will continue....
Syptryn [3d\]: G-14
Syptryn [3d\]: I suspect
Syptryn [3d\]: for white
sameasyou [2d\]: also I don't think they can bring 4 players to beat Romania
Javaness [2d\]: :) they lost last time
bloodynewb [6k\]: lol how cool is this ::)
Javaness [2d\]: with home advantage
grissom [3d\]: :)
grissom [3d\]: I called this move
Javaness [2d\]: it captures the 1 stone well
miao [5d\]: either j16 or j15
bloodynewb [6k\]: call next :)
grissom [3d\]: hehe
Javaness [2d\]: I bet J16
HorseHorse [3k\]: j16 looks fine
miao [5d\]: hm
miao [5d\]: maybe
Thew [1k\]: fine is not good enough for a 5p :P
Ranye [7k\]: tengen
bloodynewb [6k\]: Q6 :)
Moin9 [5k\]: Maybe a try to make ponnuki can follow
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;B[hc]C[HorseHorse [3k\]: well, j16 is definitely sente, is that better 
Moin9 [5k\]: that could erase H16
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;W[ic]C[Moin9 [5k\]: :-)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sound better now?
HorseHorse [3k\]: no, sorry
Javaness [2d\]: very good sound
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;W[ie]C[sameasyou [2d\]: lol Java
jojo1 [8k\]: joe hoe
jojo1 [8k\]: 1 of 2 borden
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 1
sameasyou [2d\]: I can recognise one car from every 2 that is passing on the neighbouring street after the sound of the engine
dazzlas: hm, starts to look better for w
jojo1 [8k\]: waarom
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: tomorrow 2 oards
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: oards
jojo1 [8k\]: ?
sameasyou [2d\]: coards?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: boards
sameasyou [2d\]: voards?
Maroncsan [-\]: yay :)
jojo1 [8k\]: ok
HorseHorse [3k\]: perhaps noone is talking...
Moin9 [5k\]: Yes this stone chain on J16 is a good opportunity for white...
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;B[hb]C[Moin9 [5k\]: so the question is"how will he use it?"
HorseHorse [3k\]: j14 ?
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;W[jg]C[Moin9 [5k\]: J14 is too slow
bloodynewb [6k\]: the cars are funny :)
dazzlas: not sure b's h14 atari was good
sameasyou [2d\]: I thought b12 or e5
HorseHorse [3k\]: well, at least the direction was correct
CallItSeki [9k\]: they probably don't know to extend from a crosscut
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;B[pc]C[dib [1k\]: somewhere around R8 looks big now
Thew [1k\]: and the magic begins :D
Ranye [7k\]: white seems to be too open
miao [5d\]: p16?
choai [-\]: o16
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;W[gf]C[Thew [1k\]: n17?
miao [5d\]: ah
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;W[da]C[miao [5d\]: i thought about ths
HorseHorse [3k\]: q17 will have no trouble living I suppose
miao [5d\]: but wrong timing by me
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;W[nc]C[Oogway [2k\]: h13 really necessary?
miao [5d\]: big
grissom [3d\]: yup
Ranye [7k\]: as for me it was bad to let b has h13
miao [5d\]: i think so too
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast at http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
miao [5d\]: but he is the pro
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;B[ib]C[Brandulka [?\]: is it possible to get pairing of the rest teams somwhere/
miao [5d\]: h13 doublle shape point
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;W[od]C[Javaness [2d\]: i think you will have to wait a while for pairings
Syptryn [3d\]: j-18 seemes small
Syptryn [3d\]: and sad
scum [4d?\]: what did b play
scum [4d?\]: to allow this
Lovepove [6k\]: j18
scum [4d?\]: j18 for real...
Syptryn [3d\]: o-16 much better
Syptryn [3d\]: j-18 sad
bro [3d\]: or is possible to see who is playing against czech or hungary? 
shUdonNome [2k\]: 4d vs 5p.... see the difference?
Syptryn [3d\]: j-18 more like 2k move
scum [4d?\]: j18 is not particularly 4d move
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;B[kd]C[shUdonNome [2k\]: naaa. 
dazzlas: b maybe got nervous after w g14 and interpreted too much into it
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;W[qo]C[bloodynewb [6k\]: 1p is like 9 d? or whats the relation?
greenrat [4k\]: there is the czech team enroled in this tournament?
bro [3d\]: should be :)
Oogway [2k\]: there is no relation
HorseHorse [3k\]: interesting to see how white ignores l16 
Syptryn [3d\]: black has no global thinking
Maroncsan [-\]: bro, who does the czech team consist of? :)
seppy [5k\]: w j18 sente isn't it?
bloodynewb [6k\]: so how comes some are p and some are d?
bro [3d\]: Jan Hora, Vladimir Danek, scurge :P (Ondra Kruml), Tomas Kozelek
Swell [1d\]: p means pro dan
Maroncsan [-\]: ah, i c :) nice :)
Swell [1d\]: d means amateur dan
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;B[qj]C[greenrat [4k\]: but not the top czech players
seppy [5k\]: w j18 sente?
bro [3d\]: if they havent found some strong czech player on the road :)
Syptryn [3d\]: R-12
Syptryn [3d\]: r-8
Syptryn [3d\]: actually not sure
Syptryn [3d\]: lol
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;W[kq]C[Syptryn [3d\]: woa
Cookiex [-\]: interesting
Ranye [7k\]: catalin is 5 p in which confederation?
dutch2dan [2d\]: NHK
Cookiex [-\]: i can understand this move tho
scum [4d?\]: the 4d
Swell [1d\]: is there an portuguese team?
scum [4d?\]: seems to be suffering greatly
CallItSeki [9k\]: blood, there isn't any direct relation, but p is much stronger than d
scum [4d?\]: his face is quite red
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;B[jf]C[bloodynewb [6k\]: thx
Syptryn [3d\]: yes black got 4 stonesz
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;W[kf]C[Frusciante [1d\]: till now everyhting seems quite even
Cookiex [-\]: black won't settle just yet by extending because he has miai, so catalin took a big move on the board and will play r8 or r12 when its more appropriate
iLMM [-\]: b ahead in stones now
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;B[je]C[Syptryn [3d\]: black playing capture go..
HorseHorse [3k\]: black seems a little bit overconcentrated at the top, even considering his captures there
chimbba [7k\]: b position stinks
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;W[rc]C[startgo1 [3k\]: surrounding black
bloodynewb [6k\]: s17?
scum [4d?\]: white is playing solidly
Syptryn [3d\]: corner white now
Cookiex [-\]: who is the old dude next to kare?
Syptryn [3d\]: no aji left
Frusciante [1d\]: white really doesnt care those four stones, he s more concentrated about his right side
bloodynewb [6k\]: is it a normal reaction? never saw it...
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;B[bf]C[Luminaire [3k\]: easy game for white, he just sees amateur moves
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;W[cn]C[Syptryn [3d\]: ?????
Cookiex [-\]: and why is the live feed lagging so much ? :(
Syptryn [3d\]: what is black doing??!?!
seppy [5k\]: b14 small
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: how any seconds?
Syptryn [3d\]: anothe second line move?
Thew [1k\]: playing go.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lag?
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;B[cl]C[Cookiex [-\]: c6 looks akwardly comfortable
Cookiex [-\]: yes the feed is choppy
Cookiex [-\]: laggy
Syptryn [3d\]: C-3
bloodynewb [6k\]: looks like dia show :)
Syptryn [3d\]: or E-4
Cookiex [-\]: yes
Syptryn [3d\]: mabe e-4 more appropraite here
Frusciante [1d\]: consider that every move b makes is bad just by the fact that he is playing a pro
Javaness [2d\]: C3 funtimes
Syptryn [3d\]: c-3 nets white corner, though black could have large potential moyo left side
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;W[cq]C[Syptryn [3d\]: but only 1 terriroty
Cookiex [-\]: is this a common pattern?
scum [4d?\]: well... the terriroty may seem great
Syptryn [3d\]: yeah
Frusciante [1d\]: yeah
Syptryn [3d\]: joseki
ardha [5k\]: lolzmao java
jojo1 [8k\]: har
Cookiex [-\]: its joseki?!
scum [4d?\]: but black will fight well you see
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ja?
Syptryn [3d\]: mid game joseki
scum [4d?\]: and in the endgame make many points
Cookiex [-\]: i had no clue
Syptryn [3d\]: black's peaceful option is D-4
johnny [6k\]: hmm....W has all 4 corners?
Syptryn [3d\]: which gives white corner
Syptryn [3d\]: black can also play D-3
jojo1 [8k\]: kijk je niet bij de chat eurogotv
Frusciante [1d\]: now.. what joseki will w invent it s a complete mistery
Syptryn [3d\]: and you get some complex variations
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: nee, niet genoeg bandreedte
jojo1 [8k\]: o
Syptryn [3d\]: I personally think black should D-3 here, since he doesn'
Syptryn [3d\]: have much left
Syptryn [3d\]: he needs to start complex fight
s0: who are the pĺayers pls?
johnny [6k\]: this started as even game? no handicap?
Thew [1k\]: welke nederlander is er de partij aan het bijhouden?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: me
basilic [8k\]: c5 
Ranye [7k\]: doesnt w give too much solid territory to b?
Syptryn [3d\]: tho... ladder favors white
Syptryn [3d\]: so
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
Thew [1k\]: and you are.... =p
DanielTom [3d\]: poor B
Syptryn [3d\]: na, black has given too much solid terriroty to white :)
Syptryn [3d\]: black only has about 20 pts
Syptryn [3d\]: top
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i am EuroGoTV1
Syptryn [3d\]: solid
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
Thew [1k\]: I see.
s0: who is black?
grissom [3d\]: me
SuicideBot [1d\]: b still playable i think
alter [1k\]: its written on top right
s0: oh
HorseHorse [3k\]: s0 read the names 
s0: thx alter
alter [1k\]: welcome
Syptryn [3d\]: I vote D-3, lol
s0: my window was in a weird position
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;B[co]
;W[er]C[Syptryn [3d\]: okay black gives white corner
Orandajinn [3k\]: b resign
s0: w has four corners = b resign :-)
johnny [6k\]: B playing solidly...now where will W attack left side?
Syptryn [3d\]: white just needs to reduce
Luminaire [3k\]: white doesn't have to
Syptryn [3d\]: left side
Syptryn [3d\]: no need to invade
Syptryn [3d\]: black has nothing else
poivron [7k?\]: b has huge moyo possibility
GOBRETT [5k\]: white shouldnt attack left site
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;W[eq]
;B[ep]C[s0: Im seeing the video in another window. This is cool because it is possible to see player's emotion
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Thew i am the one who invited you for last weeks tournament in Amstelveen
olly [4k\]: f4
Ranye [7k\]: b has to destroy w territory and will win
Thew [1k\]: Cool =)
Goreon [1d\]: w has all corners
Elscouta [2k\]: b needs a nuke to attack white territories
johnny [6k\]: W e10?
Luminaire [3k\]: white has gold
Syptryn [3d\]: whites territoy pretty solid
jojo1 [8k\]: weet je niet wie eurogo is?
s0: white L5, game over
poivron [7k?\]: i wnat play go in coffeshop
CallItSeki [9k\]: black:  XP   white:  ^^
GOBRETT [5k\]: c13
Syptryn [3d\]: blacks only hopy is to threaten it enough to expand his left sufficiently
scum [4d?\]: white is gote
Syptryn [3d\]: but I don't give that much chances
CallItSeki [9k\]: there's the emotions for those of you who don't have video
Javaness [2d\]: gote but big profit
HorseHorse [3k\]: d3 needed sooner or later
s0: bigbadwolf will be playing?
Syptryn [3d\]: there's till F-4 cut aji
Syptryn [3d\]: tho
Syptryn [3d\]: if black takes sente
Thew [1k\]: doe ze allemaal, including yourself, maar de groeten dan en wens ze vooral veel succes ^^
scum [4d?\]: f4 is crap rite now, imo
Fredrik [6d\]: w not that far ahead
Tasky [3k\]: doesnt b need g5 after
Tasky [3k\]: ?
Syptryn [3d\]: black likely should play G-5
Syptryn [3d\]: but he needs to skip it
SuicideBot [1d\]: white needs to protect corner no?
Syptryn [3d\]: if he plays it
Syptryn [3d\]: too slow
Syptryn [3d\]: he'll lose
Zanevski [5k\]: f4 will be fun
scum [4d?\]: i think patience play is just right
GOBRETT [5k\]: yes
Syptryn [3d\]: gotta take risks when u behind
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;W[dq]C[Luminaire [3k\]: f4 right now is not good
Syptryn [3d\]: G5
Syptryn [3d\]: would be best defence
Swell [1d\]: B will win this game!
Syptryn [3d\]: for cut
TeHokioi [11k\]: What time system are they playing with in real life?
Syptryn [3d\]: but white will reduce G-8
Syptryn [3d\]: ish
Swell [1d\]: it is possible
Swell [1d\]: =)
Syptryn [3d\]: or just H-8
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;B[hp]C[Syptryn [3d\]: and black won't have enough
Luminaire [3k\]: not anymore
Grokken [8k\]: 1 minute each no byo yomi!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W 36 minutes left
tomason [1d\]: H9?
Swell [1d\]: you understimate b
Swell [1d\]: ^^^
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;W[jn]C[Syptryn [3d\]: haha
Syptryn [3d\]: white probably counted
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;B[pr]C[Syptryn [3d\]: and realised he doesn't need to go any deeper
Ranye [7k\]: w thinks its enough?
Luminaire [3k\]: white knows
s0: B14 is ok?
Goreon [1d\]: r7 r10 still weak
HorseHorse [3k\]: r7 can also be attacked
Luminaire [3k\]: white doesn't really have to think anymore, too easy now
Syptryn [3d\]: assuming black walls of on the H line
Ranye [7k\]: b is going to destroy all he can
Syptryn [3d\]: which is very optimistic for black
Syptryn [3d\]: he'll get 85 pts
poivron [7k?\]: i think b14 remove w invasion
iLMM [-\]: p3
ardha [5k\]: yeah, what was the point of b14 to begin with?
tomason [1d\]: eurogo, do you know the number of teams and pairing?
s0: b14 seemed to early, pls correct me
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, i dont know
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;W[oq]C[Syptryn [3d\]: b--14 was far too early
seppy [5k\]: p3 = i win move?
Syptryn [3d\]: p3 necessary
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;B[qq]C[Elscouta [2k\]: p3 = you can take 10 points in gote, i don't care
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;W[qp]C[Syptryn [3d\]: and white corner suffers too much...
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;B[rq]C[seppy [5k\]: p3 = b alive
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;W[or]
;B[qs]C[scum [4d?\]: bit early
Syptryn [3d\]: dun know why black making life in gore tho
scum [4d?\]: to live like this
Syptryn [3d\]: I thought it was job probe
Taketombo [6k\]: interesting that 3 of the 4 players closest the camera are left handed
Syptryn [3d\]: job = just
HorseHorse [3k\]: 2 points in gote
Syptryn [3d\]: agree with scum
Syptryn [3d\]: too early
bloodynewb [6k\]: muhahahah
scum [4d?\]: now the 2 space extension
Syptryn [3d\]: white can now H-6
scum [4d?\]: is a real easy target
Syptryn [3d\]: or deeper
Syptryn [3d\]: nad he likes
grissom [3d\]: p10¿
Syptryn [3d\]: nad = if
Clynch [10k\]: camera?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast at http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
scum [4d?\]: H6 is nice and simlpe, but i hate to miss a chance
scum [4d?\]: to pull off a good attack
Clynch [10k\]: Thanks
Syptryn [3d\]: yeah
Syptryn [3d\]: me too
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ut low bandwidth
Syptryn [3d\]: haha
Syptryn [3d\]: C-9 probe :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but
Ranye [7k\]: no b has to use come how q17
bloodynewb [6k\]: are they playing next to a speedway or something?
johnny [6k\]: W p6
johnny [6k\]: then W p11
Syptryn [3d\]: white may want to abuse
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it is hot, so the wi9ndow is open
Syptryn [3d\]: right side 2 stoens first
Grokken [8k\]: i hear car horns
Syptryn [3d\]: and fix P-5 aji in sente
Syptryn [3d\]: Q-10 + Q-8 combo
Syptryn [3d\]: for example
Ranye [7k\]: can b trade q17?
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;W[hh]C[Syptryn [3d\]: wooo
Syptryn [3d\]: inetersting move
SuicideBot [1d\]: hot move
johnny [6k\]: didn't see that coming
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;B[ih]C[TeHokioi [11k\]: you guys have soun?D
Grokken [8k\]: yeah
bloodynewb [6k\]: yeah
Syptryn [3d\]: ladder doens't work for white tho
Grokken [8k\]: but almost no video
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: j14
Syptryn [3d\]: so I'm not sure what his exact plan is
Grokken [8k\]: its like 1 frame every 3 seconds
Luminaire [3k\]: if white gets to enclose L16 stones in sente, then Q8 and Q9 moves are awesome
Javaness [2d\]: what white do
tomason [1d\]: w misread?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: j14
Syptryn [3d\]: enclosing bot looks small
Syptryn [3d\]: when it comes at case of H-12
Syptryn [3d\]: case = cost
TeHokioi [11k\]: Could someone explain how to get audio/visual? In whisper preferably 
]
;W[hi]C[k43r [1k\]: you don't hear catalin?
Syptryn [3d\]: mmm
Syptryn [3d\]: this looks heavy
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast at http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Syptryn [3d\]: black will need to kill these stones
Syptryn [3d\]: if he wants to win
Luminaire [3k\]: seed of destruction
]
;B[ii]C[Javaness [2d\]: I don't understand white's idea
Syptryn [3d\]: H-12 reflex move?
Syptryn [3d\]: looks like good place, but white misread?
Syptryn [3d\]: or didn't read and played by instinct?
HorseHorse [3k\]: it seems to me white wants to live with h11 
]
;W[ij]
;B[kh]C[s0: missclick :-)
Syptryn [3d\]: white will like be fine here
Syptryn [3d\]: but it seems unnecessary for him to complicate the game
Syptryn [3d\]: when he's ahead
Orandajinn [3k\]: is Tsurukame playing too?
greenrat [4k\]: florescu?
Orandajinn [3k\]: yes
]
;W[hj]C[dutch2dan [2d\]: tird romanian player? Pop?
HorseHorse [3k\]: actually white has invaded pretty deep here
sarno [2d\]: registered players: http://www.shusaku.ro/eurogostat.html
greenrat [4k\]: pop is second
Orandajinn [3k\]: i know tsurukame is the organizer, but i wonder if he is also playing
Orandajinn [3k\]: oh
s0: where's the venue?
Ranye [7k\]: b has to kill smth
tomason [1d\]: Romania 1: Taranu, Pop, Bajenaru, Burzo
s0: it would be cool to see a self-atari broadcasted by TV
HorseHorse [3k\]: seen that once already
greenrat [4k\]: I don't see florescu in the list
s0: coool Horse²
Syptryn [3d\]: wasn't  H-10 cut
HorseHorse [3k\]: there`s one on youtube from a pro
Syptryn [3d\]: possible?
Syptryn [3d\]: it would ghave been a rough fight
Orandajinn [3k\]: i guess he does not have time to play, as he is the organizer
s0: do you have the link Horse² ?
Syptryn [3d\]: but black has essentially given up like this
Taketombo [6k\]: so all the players on the same side are on the same team?
HorseHorse [3k\]: no, sorry s0
greenrat [4k\]: yup
s0: they can ask for help between each other?
greenrat [4k\]: :))
s0: like, "hey, help me read this semeai"
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: use the search for videos function on EuroGoTV for that video
scum [4d?\]: sorry syp, you mean h10 in place of l12?
Syptryn [3d\]: yeah
Taketombo [6k\]: and board numbers are numbered 1 to 4 from closest the camera?
Syptryn [3d\]: I presume white will cut J-13
Syptryn [3d\]: after an atari on black
scum [4d?\]: or, just j13
Syptryn [3d\]: and then black plays k=10
Syptryn [3d\]: then jumps out at L-12
Syptryn [3d\]: it looks complex
Syptryn [3d\]: but I can't see immediate death
Syptryn [3d\]: looks like rought fight for both
Azortn: 4th board's over?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Home&log=speelaf&id=qt1FvPxmmfE
scum [4d?\]: i don't see black making anything from that
scum [4d?\]: compared to the saving of the j17 stones
johnny [6k\]: B f13?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: that was the link for 9p blunder
Syptryn [3d\]: yeah, ur probably right, but if black could kill H-11 and H-12 and wall to H line, letting those 4 stones go might be worthwhile
Syptryn [3d\]: now I think he just lose
]
;B[kg]C[scum [4d?\]: it would be big to get those, but i'm not sure black could even totally fix frmo H4 to top
Swell [1d\]: black is going to win
Syptryn [3d\]: I'd like to see how :D
Swell [1d\]: than continue watching =D
Syptryn [3d\]: E-6
Swell [1d\]: and there is no luck in go ;)
Azortn: does anyone know where the results are posted?
scum [4d?\]: any minute now, a bulging envelope full of money will pass between the players..
HorseHorse [3k\]: black continues to capture the stones that white is sacrificing
Syptryn [3d\]: black playing capture go!
poivron [7k?\]: if your opponent make mistakes, it s kind of luck isn t it ?
Swell [1d\]: no
Swell [1d\]: its not luck ^^
Swell [1d\]: because there is no probabilitys ^^
yakito [3k\]: luck doesnt exist ;)
Swell [1d\]: if your opponent makes a mistake is it because he played bad
scum [4d?\]: i disagree
scum [4d?\]: there is probability
Swell [1d\]: yakito is right ^^
scum [4d?\]: simply because you cannot easily measure it, does not mean it doesn't exist
yakito [3k\]: disagree scum =)
Swell [1d\]: not in a case that is combined with luck 
meuns [1k\]: luck is for newbs !
poivron [7k?\]: all is luck and hazard
greenrat [4k\]: http://www.shusaku.ro/eeurogoteam.html#
yakito [3k\]: if something appen, its because it has to appen
snam [3k\]: give me your definition of luck and i will nswer who right
scum [4d?\]: luck is for when you lose
scum [4d?\]: skill is for when you win
Swell [1d\]: in go there is no luck ^^
yakito [3k\]: xD
tonynogo [7k\]: white left the table, it's a escaper ^^
yakito [3k\]: in go or elsewhere :=)
bro [3d\]: no luck, it´s everyone flaw to make errors
Swell [1d\]: its not a dice game
yakito [3k\]: yeah
s0: is this romania x netherlands?
tonynogo [7k\]: ah no only connection problem, he's back ^^
CallItSeki [9k\]: wait wait wait... I'm not supposed to be using dice
CallItSeki [9k\]: ?
yakito [3k\]: if you lose, its because you played worse than the other, thats all
poivron [7k?\]: if go exist, it because the jumanity has enough luck to exist
greenrat [4k\]: Romania vs Finland
Kuros [6k\]: but certain stones prove to end up in really lucky positions
]
;W[ce]C[Kuros [6k\]: if you played something 230 moves later that suddenly acts as an extremely improbably ladder breaker, it's hardly m4d sk1llz
Kuros [6k\]: earlier*
yakito [3k\]: why luck? :s
Swell [1d\]: its not luck
Swell [1d\]: ^^
yakito [3k\]: exactly ^^
]
;B[bg]
;W[dk]C[blotter [20k\]: it depends on your slill how much luck you need  JEFF WARD   backgammon pro
Swell [1d\]: luck is defined for something you can´t controle or change by human bee
yakito [3k\]: if life is luck, you dont choose any actions..harsh to be like it ;)
Syptryn [3d\]: sigh
Denniskutl [2d\]: i miss the days when kibitz made sense
Syptryn [3d\]: white + 20
Swell [1d\]: beeing*
s0: dennis: when was that?
yakito [3k\]: yeah swell
Denniskutl [2d\]: long ago
s0: long long ago in a galaxy far far away
Swell [1d\]: and a move that acts 230 moves later is not luck 
Fighter23 [7k\]: interesting game
yakito [3k\]: but luck doesnt exist in this world, this will be too easy :s
]
;B[fk]C[s0: w is a deep invader
Denniskutl [2d\]: it may be yose 
yakito [3k\]: determinism, thats all =)
]
;W[ck]C[Denniskutl [2d\]: hmm
yakito [3k\]: w isnt in a good position
Fighter23 [7k\]: w is gonna die
Denniskutl [2d\]: what is w plan
aaaaedb: los
yakito [3k\]: die ^^
aaaaedb: lose
Fighter23 [7k\]: resign time
icecoffee [6d\]: i hope w loose 
Denniskutl [2d\]: why
]
;B[ej]C[icecoffee [6d\]: its can be funy to see 5p losse to 4d
s0: icecoffe: or...
Syptryn [3d\]: B-6
Syptryn [3d\]: then B-11
beta5 [8k?\]: What about winning the lottery? Isn't that luck or do you consider that just a statistical probability?
Syptryn [3d\]: white will live
yakito [3k\]: b6 b7 ...:p
scum [4d?\]: easy trade yakito
Syptryn [3d\]: white wins then
Syptryn [3d\]: white du need to save everything
Kuros [6k\]: better just drop it beta5, all it will come down to is a discussion about definitions and metaphysics :q
CallItSeki [9k\]: luck is the word you use when the cause doesn't interest you
HorseHorse [3k\]: statistics of course beta
Fighter23 [7k\]: w is officially 5p  but she doesn't play as good as before   
yakito [3k\]: xD not again please ^^
]
;W[bl]C[beta5 [8k?\]: well thats more interesting then waiting for moves to show up
Swell [1d\]: its statistical probability o.o
yakito [3k\]: ^_^
Swell [1d\]: win at a lottery means you acerted the right number
yakito [3k\]: yeah
yakito [3k\]: not luck ;)
yakito [3k\]: again and again :/
Swell [1d\]: which you can choose
yakito [3k\]: rah guys ! :/
Fighter23 [7k\]: B10
Fighter23 [7k\]: !!
scum [4d?\]: more exclamation marks
scum [4d?\]: he may hear you
Oogway [2k\]: of course it is luck because there is no way you could have known the numbers before
yakito [3k\]: and then, lottery is physics ;) so no probabilities 
]
;B[cm]C[yakito [3k\]: wow oogway :s
scum [4d?\]: but physics is governed by probability
CallItSeki [9k\]: physics has probabilities
Fighter23 [7k\]: w B11 !
]
;W[bm]C[yakito [3k\]: nop :s
]
;B[bn]C[Oogway [2k\]: yes of course it has lol
scum [4d?\]: are you sure yakito
aaaaedb: white is way ahead in territory but black hope is on the center to catch the white group.
Oogway [2k\]: ever heard of quantum physics?
Thew [1k\]: quantummechanics, prefect example :P
yakito [3k\]: an object has his own trajectory
yakito [3k\]: not probability :
Thew [1k\]: turbulence
scum [4d?\]: what does that have to do with anything
HorseHorse [3k\]: d6 makes an eye
Fighter23 [7k\]: w is so dead
Oogway [2k\]: lol you probably just learned newtons law and think you can calculate everything from it
yakito [3k\]: Thew [1k\]: quantummechanics, prefect example :P => theory ;)
tm93 [2k\]: b 11
Syptryn [3d\]: B-12
yakito [3k\]: oO? xD
Syptryn [3d\]: black B11
Syptryn [3d\]: white B-10 sente
yakito [3k\]: oogway not really ;)
Syptryn [3d\]: then make eye with D-6
Swell [1d\]: I wasnt the one who said there is no luck on earth. I just said that there is no luck in go =)
Fighter23 [7k\]: B12 doesn't work
Oogway [2k\]: but you are talking like that
yakito [3k\]: if you make decision by luck...well good luck in your life ;)
Syptryn [3d\]: is black just connect, white b-10 still sente I think
greenrat [4k\]: W b11.not now 
tm93 [2k\]: but b 1 does;) better
tm93 [2k\]: because not so close
Thew [1k\]: its the most accurate theory there is in physics =)
Syptryn [3d\]: b11, then black b-12, can stuine eye with clamp
Syptryn [3d\]: ruine
yakito [3k\]: not really physics :) its astrophysics...
scum [4d?\]: what
yakito [3k\]: we dont know everything about it
Fighter23 [7k\]: it's dead
yakito [3k\]: you make theory thats all
Clynch [10k\]: Its alive
Sandmann [-\]: w b10 alive
Thew [1k\]: go study it then before you make such comments :P
Syptryn [3d\]: or just b-10
Onmyoji [2d\]: i count b+32.5
Syptryn [3d\]: lol
bloa [9k\]: yakito [3k\]: Thew [1k\]: quantummechanics, prefect example :P => theory ;)
Syptryn [3d\]: without the dramatics of b-12 :P
Oogway [2k\]: unless you didn't find the theory of everything there is no way you could know there is no luck
Syptryn [3d\]: but b-12 looks more awesome
bloa [9k\]: yakito is that supposed to mean that its just a theory = nolt yet proven?
Fighter23 [7k\]: the only option IS w D7 ! ! !
greenrat [4k\]: SE has no value now
yakito [3k\]: huh?
s0: when camera cuts player's head... 
bloodynewb [6k\]: im lucky
Thew [1k\]: b11?
mafutrct [1k\]: why are people talking about physics?
aaaaedb: show off
tm93 [2k\]: heh dead
Clynch [10k\]: teh game boores them D
scum [4d?\]: its fun to talk about what you don't know
bloa [9k\]: cause its interesting
yakito [3k\]: oggway : the only science which is true is mathematics
Fighter23 [7k\]: i bet on D7
taiji [2k\]: d6
s0: yakito is a fine troller
aaaaedb: math is math not science1
bloa [9k\]: math is science
Kuros [6k\]: s0, indeed
Oogway [2k\]: well i agree to that since i study math ^^
bloa [9k\]: but not science of the nature
icecoffee [6d\]: b11
yakito [3k\]: maths is the only science
Swell [1d\]: mathematics is science o.o
aaaaedb: science use math 
bloa [9k\]: its idealscience
yakito [3k\]: .....
CallItSeki [9k\]: aaaa is right
bloa [9k\]: like logic
yakito [3k\]: physics is not a true science
scum [4d?\]: 0.9999... != 1
cid7777 [3k\]: nuclear bombs show that physici is a tue science too : D
CallItSeki [9k\]: science is based on observation & indecution
Fighter23 [7k\]: if D6   then b combo with E8 and E7   
Oogway [2k\]: lol
Greck [1k\]: b11
Onmyoji [2d\]: ur mom is not true science
Azortn: wow...people are really dumb in this room
Cookiex [-\]: NO U!
Kuros [6k\]: awesome, a 0.9999 = 1 discussion would be just the right thing to turn this kibbitz into an absolute tardfest
Clynch [10k\]: i cant subscrtibe to get the video;(
Clynch [10k\]: I dont get no email
s0: I'm seeing a huge goban on TV!
twold [2k\]: amazing kibitz as always ^^
jojo1 [8k\]: har
Javaness [2d\]: what is white up to there
Hyoga [3k\]: the pro is pwned no ?
tm93 [2k\]: math physics it all suck when u compared with Go
scum [4d?\]: kuros, did you ever hear of the airplane on the treadmill
Denniskutl [2d\]: rahter bad kibitz i think
tm93 [2k\]: :P
s0: guys, that a goban?
scum [4d?\]: i understand it couldn't take off
Syptryn [3d\]: b-10
EuroGoTV1 [-\]:  look at your unwanted mail box
Kuros [6k\]: yeah, that one is great as well
Syptryn [3d\]: safest
Syptryn [3d\]: way to live
s0: ha! that's a 37x27 goban
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;W[bj]C[tiflis: b10 and then ?
Syptryn [3d\]: B-12
tiflis: ok
Syptryn [3d\]: if black saves the 2 stones
tiflis: thats what I thought 2
greenrat [4k\]: d6 or...
Oogway [2k\]: of course physics is science, there is a distinction between exact science and not exact science
Fighter23 [7k\]: B11   and it's dead
Denniskutl [2d\]: can w cut
Syptryn [3d\]: I prefer b-12 first tho :), coz it looks cooler
s0: black J8
]
;B[dn]C[tetima: im sure W is calculating the F that he needs to slam the stone so hard that B resigns from sheer panic
Syptryn [3d\]: like WOA, white jump so far!
tm93 [2k\]: b 12
greenrat [4k\]: c11
Swell [1d\]: c11 
tm93 [2k\]: c 11
Onmyoji [2d\]: c11 
tm93 [2k\]: well c 11 looks like last chance
s0: so black gote life
s0: I mean
s0: white gote life
Syptryn [3d\]: c-11 or b12 works
s0: then balck will play J8
aaaaedb: b12 yes
scum [4d?\]: catching another tetris block will not win black the game
EricM [2d\]: b12 seem's better
Syptryn [3d\]: I lol
twold [2k\]: c11 b12 then what?
aaaaedb: or may F8 first then b12
s0: lol scum
Syptryn [3d\]: lol at scum
twold [2k\]: i like b12 better
]
;W[ci]C[Draxt [6k\]: c11 D10 can still live?
]
;B[cg]
;W[bh]
;B[jl]C[twold [2k\]: ugh
]
;W[ff]
;B[fd]
;W[fh]C[Syptryn [3d\]: woa
EricM [2d\]: woh
CallItSeki [9k\]: ouch
aaaaedb: F13
Fighter23 [7k\]: just G13
greenrat [4k\]: threatening with e11
greenrat [4k\]: or d11
Syptryn [3d\]: whites aim to to play L-11
Syptryn [3d\]: in sente
Syptryn [3d\]: will at least witout cut
HorseHorse [3k\]: f12 is very nice
Syptryn [3d\]: yeah
Syptryn [3d\]: didn't see da move
Fighter23 [7k\]: G13 now
Syptryn [3d\]: bet black missed it too
Cookiex [-\]: i don't see how this works for white
Fighter23 [7k\]: me neither
Syptryn [3d\]: its just sabbaki
Syptryn [3d\]: for L-11
Syptryn [3d\]: so white can escape easy
Fighter23 [7k\]: ok
bloodynewb [6k\]: its about f11 i think
s0: sabbaki = sausage filling?
ClemGo [2k\]: g13 work ?
Syptryn [3d\]: if black doesn't want the sabbaki
rausku [-\]: sabaki
Syptryn [3d\]: he'll have to let white save the 3 stones
EricM [2d\]: f11 bad shape bloodynewb
scum [4d?\]: bravo white!! what a marvellous adji!
Fighter23 [7k\]: how about b L10 first ?
rausku [-\]: sabbaki sounds like a jewish martial arts
CallItSeki [9k\]: ok, stupid question:
]
;B[fi]C[CallItSeki [9k\]: black has territory where now?
Onmyoji [2d\]: lol
EricM [2d\]: lol
rausku [-\]: callit, under all those white stones
]
;W[gg]C[Clynch [10k\]: 2d fail
Syptryn [3d\]: F-11 fail
s0: Calllt: s2 is 1 point
EricM [2d\]: 4d fail ^^
]
;B[di]C[CallItSeki [9k\]: heh
scum [4d?\]: fail fail fail fail fail
HorseHorse [3k\]: also half an eye in sente
Javaness [2d\]: suddenly black's position collapses
bloodynewb [6k\]: white is okay :)
HorseHorse [3k\]: white still needs to live of course
Syptryn [3d\]: white can get out
Syptryn [3d\]: L-10
Syptryn [3d\]: black dun date wedge now
Syptryn [3d\]: date = dare
aaaaedb: G8 give white a big chance
tetima: white gets out and b plays P5 and kill everything
bloodynewb [6k\]: he will play l 10 i think
aaaaedb: than black can forfeight
scum [4d?\]: b plays p5 and white dies from laughter aneurysm
dutch2dan [2d\]: @tetima: What have you been drinking?
Syptryn [3d\]: but white mihgt be entertained playing G-8
Syptryn [3d\]: first
Syptryn [3d\]: threatening balcks group further
choai [-\]: k11
Syptryn [3d\]: L-10
Syptryn [3d\]: to be safe
s0: k11
Syptryn [3d\]: L-11 will also get white out
Syptryn [3d\]: G-8
]
;W[il]C[johnny [6k\]: B L10
Syptryn [3d\]: okay that works too
]
;B[im]C[aaaaedb: this is a safer way though
]
;W[hl]C[Syptryn [3d\]: L-10 dun work, white can k-11 cut,. then atari out, or double atari at J-14
Syptryn [3d\]: J-13
HorseHorse [3k\]: ah, f8 is a threat
s0: 2nd eye coming
bloodynewb [6k\]: f 8 is bad
Syptryn [3d\]: white is asming for E-8
]
;B[fm]C[scum [4d?\]: b resi
]
;W[jm]C[Syptryn [3d\]: black retreats
]
;B[in]
;W[io]C[Syptryn [3d\]: black playing wuss when he like 30 pts behind :S
]
;B[gm]C[aaaaedb: look that, white will solidify the bottom territory as well
]
;W[ho]
;B[gn]C[scum [4d?\]: Ugh
Syptryn [3d\]: K-11
Syptryn [3d\]: sente
Syptryn [3d\]: then capture with L-8
StefanRadu [2d?\]: k11 l8
writer [1k?\]: b influence lost completely - w safe ...
CallItSeki [9k\]: b still hoping to kill j10?
HorseHorse [3k\]: l9 works ?
Syptryn [3d\]: K-10 threatens top too
Clynch [10k\]: k11?
EricM [2d\]: k8 and l10?
Syptryn [3d\]: whites position more solid then...
]
;W[ji]
;B[jh]
;W[kl]C[johnny [6k\]: game over
Syptryn [3d\]: :S
Onmyoji [2d\]: i count w+51.5
]
;B[jk]
;W[kj]C[aaaaedb: L10
Syptryn [3d\]: L-10
Clynch [10k\]: L10 resign
Syptryn [3d\]: then K-11
Syptryn [3d\]: err L-11
Syptryn [3d\]: balck can't escape
HorseHorse [3k\]: ah
CallItSeki [9k\]: k9 lol
Syptryn [3d\]: black misread
StefanRadu [2d?\]: now k5 active
Syptryn [3d\]: black can eat 2 stones with K 5 :D
]
;B[jo]C[Syptryn [3d\]: WOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Syptryn [3d\]: black winning capture go
CallItSeki [9k\]: 4 points for black!
seppy [5k\]: more than 4 points
HorseHorse [3k\]: k5 is pretty big
Clynch [10k\]: more than 4
]
;W[km]C[s0: b will gasp all those tetris blocks
s0: eventually
CallItSeki [9k\]: not big enough
johnny [6k\]: B L9 was bigger
]
;B[jp]C[SuicideBot [1d\]: lol, "smart" 9k
]
;W[jq]
;B[ip]C[StefanRadu [2d?\]: q8 now and go for the moyo
dutch2dan [2d\]: s9 ftw for w next?
aaaaedb: ok now s8 or 9
EricM [2d\]: s8?
bloodynewb [6k\]: p5 :)
Kuros [6k\]: s8!
scum [4d?\]: P10 ftw
Syptryn [3d\]: P-10 I like
s0: what is ftw?
Syptryn [3d\]: for the win
HorseHorse [3k\]: free the world
s0: thanks Horse²
greenrat [4k\]: b made big damage with k5
Azortn: feed the whales
billy504 [7k\]: for the win
tonynogo [7k\]: P11
billy504 [7k\]: not free the world
Syptryn [3d\]: P-10
CallItSeki [9k\]: forfeit to white
Syptryn [3d\]: black either makes life down below
Syptryn [3d\]: and risks death
Syptryn [3d\]: game over
Clynch [10k\]: ahy is w so ahead?
Syptryn [3d\]: and = or
]
;W[os]
;B[sr]C[Goblin [4k\]: now r7 r10  looks really weak
Grokken [8k\]: white has 3 corners
]
;W[ro]C[writer [1k?\]: maybe now something like 018 useful
Syptryn [3d\]: lol
scum [4d?\]: big hurt
scum [4d?\]: coming down
Grokken [8k\]: and black has nothing
s0: s1
]
;B[rs]C[Syptryn [3d\]: balcks 2 stones
Syptryn [3d\]: shivering
Syptryn [3d\]: in fear
Clynch [10k\]: Black got something alright
HorseHorse [3k\]: told you that corner was 2 points...
aaaaedb: hear comes 
Syptryn [3d\]: they know what's coming...
]
;W[qk]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: KILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
StefanRadu [2d?\]: YEAH!
scum [4d?\]: boo, profit attack
]
;B[rk]C[Syptryn [3d\]: P-10 :D
scum [4d?\]: wanted Big Kill All
]
;W[rl]C[StefanRadu [2d?\]: thats something id play:))
Syptryn [3d\]: play light black
Syptryn [3d\]: play light!
]
;B[ql]
;W[pk]
;B[rm]
;W[rj]
;B[sl]
;W[pj]
;B[om]C[HorseHorse [3k\]: that`s 1 eye
]
;W[oo]C[s0: oh oh
scum [4d?\]: t6 is fine
scum [4d?\]: no its not
scum [4d?\]: haha
greenrat [4k\]: waiting for the second
Syptryn [3d\]: no
scum [4d?\]: woah
scum [4d?\]: black is shafted
Syptryn [3d\]: I thought it was
Syptryn [3d\]: for 5 seconds
johnny [6k\]: there's another 2 pts for B
Syptryn [3d\]: :D
]
;B[mm]C[Syptryn [3d\]: then saw S-8
Syptryn [3d\]: s-6
Syptryn [3d\]: lol
EricM [2d\]: m5
s0: n6 peep
StefanRadu [2d?\]: m5
s0: o6 peep
Clynch [10k\]: S11?
Clynch [10k\]: ah T10
Clynch [10k\]: wait
HorseHorse [3k\]: white does not need to kill, but he will defenitely try
]
;W[lo]C[Syptryn [3d\]: M-9?
greenrat [4k\]: bets: Black manage to make a second eye there?
]
;B[mk]C[Clynch [10k\]: can black live with S11?
Javaness [2d\]: How is popic doing?
CallItSeki [9k\]: no
Javaness [2d\]: is he adjusting his glasses?
Clynch [10k\]: ko ;)
StefanRadu [2d?\]: m10
scum [4d?\]: L9
scum [4d?\]: catalin is conservative
]
;W[kk]C[Ragnarok [3k\]: no ko
CallItSeki [9k\]: he can crawl up the side alittle, but not enough to make an eye, clynch
Syptryn [3d\]: cateline doesn't need to kill this
Javaness [2d\]: Catalin is content to win
clayton [-\]: nice wallpaper
Clynch [10k\]: He just need to connect
Clynch [10k\]: Dont need to crawl
s0: what are those noises?
CallItSeki [9k\]: er
CallItSeki [9k\]: connect to what
Clynch [10k\]: S11 R11 T11 
s0: ahn ahn ahn
aaaaedb: let black be alive play M 17 line for big win
scum [4d?\]: wailing and gnashing of teeth?
Swell [1d\]: l11 
]
;B[ol]
;W[sj]C[Clynch [10k\]: to to make T9 an eye
cid7777 [3k\]: shut up 10k  XD
Clynch [10k\]: Told ya ;)
s0: scum, it is more like "ahn ahn  ahn"
writer [1k?\]: n11?
]
;B[ln]
;W[ko]C[Syptryn [3d\]: black wants to cut
]
;B[mo]
;W[mp]C[Syptryn [3d\]: wooo
]
;B[kn]C[grissom [3d\]: t6 lives easy
scum [4d?\]: teh
CallItSeki [9k\]: I don't get it
Syptryn [3d\]: t-6 s-6
HorseHorse [3k\]: e13 ...
CallItSeki [9k\]: what does this cut do?
Neospring [4k\]: threatens w big grp
EricM [2d\]: ?
Syptryn [3d\]: black hoping for it to be sente?
scum [4d?\]: force white to play e13
dutch2dan [2d\]: it cuts w.
Neospring [4k\]: he has to f13
Kuros [6k\]: threaten the l8 group
Neospring [4k\]: e13%
EricM [2d\]: cut's nothing
Denniskutl [2d\]: what is the rank of b in kgs?
witch [1d\]: o5 
Syptryn [3d\]: feels like 4d KGS
Syptryn [3d\]: maybe less
HorseHorse [3k\]: n10 works for white
]
;W[ml]C[Syptryn [3d\]: some of his moves were rlly bad
s0: n8 is wwow
Neospring [4k\]: im sure yours are worse
johnny [6k\]: technically, W is still not alive in center  : )
HorseHorse [3k\]: ok, missed that :-)
mazboy008 [1k\]: yes
mazboy008 [1k\]: l11
StefanRadu [2d?\]: e13 is the ace
]
;B[nl]C[ardha [5k\]: yep
Grokken [8k\]: SE says black +18.5!
CallItSeki [9k\]: yes
s0: and 4k's even worse...  and guests even worse
Swell [1d\]: black l11 
]
;W[nj]C[writer [1k?\]: b becoming heavier and heavier and still no eyes
Onmyoji [2d\]: !!!!!!!!!!!
CallItSeki [9k\]: if white thought he was in anydanger he'd just take e13
witch [1d\]: what does n8 do ?
]
;B[mj]
;W[eg]C[CallItSeki [9k\]: heh
mazboy008 [1k\]: lol
Grokken [8k\]: nice call
Clynch [10k\]: why e13?
johnny [6k\]: B g11
aaaaedb: white ahead +15 or so
Syptryn [3d\]: to save mid grou[
s0: to live cliynch
Clynch [10k\]: ah
Grokken [8k\]: now hes alive for sure
dutch2dan [2d\]: 1+1=2, clynch
Clynch [10k\]: ah ill keep that in mind
CallItSeki [9k\]: thanks, dutch
HorseHorse [3k\]: e13 says; I have a point, please resign
s0: who is papapoPicaGrande?
Thew [1k\]: (1 + 1/n)^n when n reaches infinity is e, clynch
Clynch [10k\]: ^^
Syptryn [3d\]: white + 30
CallItSeki [9k\]: oh, goodie, we're talking math again!
]
;B[rb]
;W[qc]
;B[nb]C[StefanRadu [2d?\]: =))
]
;W[ob]C[StefanRadu [2d?\]: even i can handle those
]
;B[mb]
;W[pb]C[bloodynewb [6k\]: bitte kein mathe mehr
Grokken [8k\]: what?
Syptryn [3d\]: there no way black can make back the pts
s0: no more math pls
]
;B[ir]C[bloodynewb [6k\]: no math again please
Thew [1k\]: lets quit go then =)
]
;W[ll]
;B[nk]C[Grokken [8k\]: no more german please
]
;W[nn]
;B[nm]
;W[mn]C[CallItSeki [9k\]: sorry, blood, I don't speak thai
scum [4d?\]: yes.. i cant grokken der german
Grokken [8k\]: you cant what?
]
;B[ni]
;W[oh]C[jojo1 [8k\]: har
Azortn: grokken
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ja
rausku [-\]: He's saying he does not grok German
]
;B[ac]
;W[ab]C[snowman [-\]: ja, ja, wunderbar
Azortn: groken is band
Fighter23 [7k\]: r they play blitz ?
llII [1d\]: who is playing at board3 for romania?
jojo1 [8k\]: welke klok hoor ik?
greenrat [4k\]: Bajenaru
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: clock boards1 and 2
jojo1 [8k\]: ty
StefanRadu [2d?\]: bajenaru. ex-insei at nihon
greenrat [4k\]: welcome
Syptryn [3d\]: B shoudl resign soon
greenrat [4k\]: 6d
StefanRadu [2d?\]: 7
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+R
Fighter23 [7k\]: ok
Onmyoji [2d\]: OK
Fighter23 [7k\]: thx eurogo
snam [3k\]: thx
CallItSeki [9k\]: black should've resigned when c9 lived
scum [4d?\]: THank you!!
ttonndaa [1d\]: eurogo do you know some more results?
HenryGo [4k\]: thx!
Taketombo [6k\]: thanks again Euro
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, and i will get something to drink first now
SuicideBot [1d\]: always nice when 9k is teaching 4dan
GOBRETT [5k\]: thx
CallItSeki [9k\]: I'm generous that way
TheCount [2k\]: i grok kibitz
SuicideBot [1d\]: maybe you should offer lessons to high dan players
GOBRETT [5k\]: ^^
Syptryn [3d\]: mmm
Syptryn [3d\]: black started off okay
CallItSeki [9k\]: I'm a shodan at kibbitz
Syptryn [3d\]: but they totally lose the plot
Syptryn [3d\]: once he started capturing tetris pieces
s0: lol
Syptryn [3d\]: J-18 was the first sign of his tetris piece obssesion
Syptryn [3d\]: then it just got worse
s0: lol
grissom [3d\]: I agree
grissom [3d\]: syp
Javaness [2d\]: how is popic doing?
s0: he's poping around
snowman [-\]: matti will surely beat pop :)
Azortn: resigned
HorseHorse [3k\]: but the way how white lived on the left and got a white group in the center was pretty impressive
snowman [-\]: i was wondering about the dogs barking when i realized it was the ing clocks
dutch2dan [2d\]: on chinese, snowman?
AuA [11k\]: game over??
aaaaedb: ye 15-20 points loss
kajak [?\]: yes
TheCount [2k\]: 6! 6 white groups! ah hah hah
AuA [11k\]: winner?
aaaaedb: me
Javaness [2d\]: hard to count the board at that angle
shUdonNome [2k\]: no resign? the game is over...
snowman [-\]: if this is 0-4 for finland, we have to cancel the return tickets
Javaness [2d\]: or post out some ceremonial swords
Javaness [2d\]: they are counting
Javaness [2d\]: How is the score Harry?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Pop wins with 18.5 points
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: cu all tomorrowmorning
Javaness [2d\]: thank you
Javaness [2d\]: Finland have lost their honour :)
snowman [-\]: seppukuharakirihai
Javaness [2d\]: Ireland were too strong to suffer such a defeat
Javaness [2d\]: we stayed at home
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