(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[60]OT[1x30 byo-yomi] GN[European Team Championship 2009 Romania1 vs Serbia1]PW[Dusan Mitic]PB[Catalin Taranu]WR[5d]BR[5p]DT[2009-10-10]EV[European Team Championship 2009]PC[Pitesti, Romania]US[HW9x9]C[Javaness [2d\]: Hi! Orandajinn [3k\]: sup knottycow [2d\]: faster! bro [3d\]: aaa serb-boys BurzoS [1d\]: Hey BurzoS [1d\]: does anyone know the results so far? BurzoS [1d\]: Euro can you help us with the results ? Javaness [2d\]: somebody messaged me some results, but they were hard to read bro [3d\]: maybe pairing would be better bro [3d\]: (for this round) StefanRadu [2d?\]: salut burzos baned4life: 2nd round catalin won an ametuer 5 dan StefanRadu [2d?\]: ai idee cine joaca aici? Javaness [2d\]: Ciota caught up in yose :) StefanRadu [2d?\]: cioata won? bro [3d\]: Romania 3 lost with Czech - 1:3 snowman [-\]: catalin won by 16.5 points knottycow [2d\]: why are we sitting around here? bro [3d\]: Hungary lost to Serbia 1:3 ] ;B[qd]C[StefanRadu [2d?\]: is this live? ] ;W[dd] ;B[cp]C[StefanRadu [2d?\]: catalin and dusan ] ;W[pq]C[BurzoS [1d\]: salut ] ;B[po] ;W[oc]C[snowman [-\]: all groups seem to be alive BurzoS [1d\]: nu stiu nici un rezultat BurzoS [1d\]: de aia intrebam si eu ] ;B[md]C[Javaness [2d\]: dead flashback [7d\]: i bet on white EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV stream of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 Javaness [2d\]: i bet 2 beers on black ] ;W[ne]C[bro [3d\]: he is definitely in form by beating Palika StefanRadu [2d?\]: i bet 10 coconuts on b. EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i put 1 limonade on white against your 2 beers Javaness [2d\]: where would you get 10 coconuts from ] ;B[pf] ;W[qc]C[sdvsdv: wow Mitic is such sexy name! Javaness [2d\]: dunno, maybe Palika's engine stalled knottycow [2d\]: is mitic a ger? knottycow [2d\]: girl? StefanRadu [2d?\]: from serbia team members sdvsdv: guy ] ;B[rc] ;W[pd] ;B[qe] ;W[qb]C[knottycow [2d\]: >.> Javaness [2d\]: http://www.eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Home&log=live1 ] ;B[me] ;W[og] ;B[qh]C[knottycow [2d\]: i am betting one horn on W AhSayuni [4d\]: n14 ] ;W[jd]C[AhSayuni [4d\]: hmm.. maybe not knottycow [2d\]: w leading yay! EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i am sorry for the internetconnection; actually there is realy fast internet in this hotel, but it seems not possible to get it in this playingarea ColdPizza [7k?\]: i think b o13 looks good knottycow [2d\]: no, it's not ColdPizza [7k?\]: why not? knottycow [2d\]: u will damage the R group ColdPizza [7k?\]: the R group is safe greenrat [5k\]: Hungarian team realy lost to Serbia? Javaness [2d\]: I am not sure how black will continue EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, 3-1 greenrat [5k\]: wow knottycow [2d\]: i guess c14 ani [8d?\]: any other results? or pairing? ColdPizza [7k?\]: it is unreasonable for Black to tenuki from this position ] ;B[mg]C[Pik [1k?\]: EGTV could you put pairing into your description? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i dont have it ] ;W[of]C[MilanMilan [9d\]: N13 seems not that good ColdPizza [7k?\]: MilanMilan: what about o13 instead? ReinZwei [22k?\]: i dont really get this thing MilanMilan [9d\]: o13? ColdPizza [7k?\]: yea MilanMilan [9d\]: I never heard about this move AhSayuni [4d\]: what is bad about n13? MilanMilan [9d\]: sry ] ;B[oi]C[ReinZwei [22k?\]: huh MilanMilan [9d\]: not bad, just that's w expection I think AhSayuni [4d\]: ah AhSayuni [4d\]: hehe ] ;W[nh]C[Javaness [2d\]: expectation ColdPizza [7k?\]: p11 is better than q11? ColdPizza [7k?\]: just looks little thin imo baned4life: It could just be me but the cam seems to be freezing up alot MilanMilan [9d\]: sry^^ Grokken [8k\]: it was doing that yesterday too Grokken [8k\]: the video stream knottycow [2d\]: i thikn n15 looks thin now EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it is the internetconnection here EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it cannot be changed GoShinobi [-\]: isnt m11 the only move knottycow [2d\]: perhpas another B n11 would have been better baned4life: black is making overplays then right? ColdPizza [7k?\]: should just m11...if cut, sacrifice. MilanMilan [9d\]: k14 maybe one choice now flashback [7d\]: with who plays Cyech? taiji [2k\]: wow so many tournament flashback [7d\]: *Czech EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Hongary-czech ] ;B[jf]C[flashback [7d\]: tx KoReNJe [3d\]: lol KoReNJe [3d\]: w is so weak cashcow [4d?\]: is catalin pro? ColdPizza [7k?\]: yes flashback [7d\]: w is very strong flashback [7d\]: I believe he will win this game Javaness [2d\]: why do you think he is shown as 5p? :) EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hi allways on the edge to be banned KoReNJe cashcow [4d?\]: i dunno... MilanMilan [9d\]: hehe cashcow [4d?\]: catalin doesn't sound like a pro name ] ;W[gd]C[AhSayuni [4d\]: right now I prefer Black ColdPizza [7k?\]: g16 feels bad MilanMilan [9d\]: any informationabout this w? ] ;B[li]C[bro [3d\]: flashback- so strong, that you believe him? Cookiex [-\]: the live stream has frozen for me :( Youssev [5d\]: m11 cashcow [4d?\]: i am now willing to put a million dollars on B flashback [7d\]: i know him personaly MilanMilan [9d\]: N11 looks slow EuroGoTV1 [-\]: against what? flashback [7d\]: youg guy from Serbia zdfhdxf: you are going to be a thin cashcow :P MilanMilan [9d\]: should be o4 instead flashback [7d\]: stronng as 6d already ] ;W[mj]C[cashcow [4d?\]: come on 5p >> 5d cashcow [4d?\]: this is no match ] ;B[ni] ;W[mi] ;B[mh] ;W[lj]C[flashback [7d\]: this is the match ;) bro [3d\]: Catalin is no chicken too :) flashback [7d\]: w ´6d EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i bet on white loveandgo [1k\]: what's W doing? bro [3d\]: THE match :) Dreamland [1k?\]: o18 ! flashback [7d\]: 5p = 7d flashback [7d\]: 6d vs. 7d MilanMilan [9d\]: b is 7d plus flashback [7d\]: ;) greenrat [5k\]: where do you you keep that million cashcow [4d?\]: under my pillow flashback [7d\]: anyway w can fight greenrat [5k\]: let me secure it :) ] ;B[pe] ;W[nd] ;B[mc] ;W[rb]C[AhSayuni [4d\]: is W stronger than Pavol Lisy? bro [3d\]: yes :) flashback [7d\]: oh flashback [7d\]: far stronger Caldheron [8k\]: they're playing quite fast, aren't they ? AhSayuni [4d\]: :p bro [3d\]: but just by bit bro [3d\]: PALKO is prodigy flashback [7d\]: much flashback [7d\]: still a kid AhSayuni [4d\]: what happend in your game? Orandajinn [3k\]: how old is dusan? bro [3d\]: firestarter :) ] ;B[ok]C[flashback [7d\]: about 19 i think ] ;W[ki]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 18 i think Orandajinn [3k\]: ah ok ColdPizza [7k?\]: he is shinobi90 on kgs MilanMilan [9d\]: the fuseki until now MilanMilan [9d\]: w plays very well cashcow [4d?\]: i think there is something at o17 flashback [7d\]: i think he is onelove on kgs flashback [7d\]: but im not sure guta [3d\]: Dusan is 19 guta [3d\]: Nikola is 17 guta [3d\]: Lazar 18 flashback [7d\]: :) guta [3d\]: coach on 4th table 55 Stankovic ] ;B[jb]C[AhSayuni [4d\]: is this a good move?.. Javaness [2d\]: white's stones look a little inefficient baned4life: well black needs to make life Javaness [2d\]: why are you using that name? cashcow [4d?\]: w should just m12 and forget about the top AhSayuni [4d\]: e4? ColdPizza [7k?\]: m12 looks too slow, e4 looks good lazy [?\]: java ,aybe it's ambitions? :) taiji [2k\]: do they have 1 minute per move or is this lightning tourney? Javaness [2d\]: 1hour i guess ] ;W[qo] ;B[qn] ;W[qp] ;B[pn] ;W[eq] ;B[do] ;W[cj]C[Javaness [2d\]: check the website ] ;B[cc] ;W[cd] ;B[dc]C[AhSayuni [4d\]: hi there Lazy! lazy [?\]: hey ofer :) ColdPizza [7k?\]: b17 ] ;W[bc] ;B[bb] ;W[bd]C[cashcow [4d?\]: b has about 40 points already ] ;B[fc]C[R6 [1k\]: seems like w can resign already... Javaness [2d\]: nonesense ] ;W[gc] ;B[fd] ;W[fe] ;B[gb]C[R6 [1k\]: very very difficult to play w ] ;W[ge]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: white will win, he told me so cashcow [4d?\]: w seems to be missing moves at o3 and g4 ] ;B[hb]C[lazy [?\]: java is non no in french? Empy [7k\]: That's no reason to resign though. AhSayuni [4d\]: I think w's good now cashcow [4d?\]: i would resign Javaness [2d\]: have to fight for your country's honour dutch2dan [2d\]: How much did he drink before telling you, Euro?/ Javaness [2d\]: yes lazy ColdPizza [7k?\]: if debarre can do it, then dusan too. EuroGoTV1 [-\]: he doesnt drink alcohol flashback [7d\]: what you think milan? ] ;W[dm] ;B[fp] ;W[gq]C[Javaness [2d\]: I saw Dusan drink alcohol :) ] ;B[ii]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^ uju [12k\]: please be polite ColdPizza [7k?\]: j11... EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no drugstalk here Java Empy [7k\]: What about white E17 here? ColdPizza [7k?\]: if w just captures m11, then it instantly looks thin. EuroGoTV1 [-\]: or i will ban you Javaness [2d\]: not again EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol dutch2dan [2d\]: Java: Clean the corner, then stand in it :) ] ;W[gi]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+3.5 cashcow [4d?\]: j12 AhSayuni [4d\]: done already? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no my estimation Kisei44 [7k\]: k ] ;B[ek]C[Sandmann [-\]: wow Javaness [2d\]: white has spirit cashcow [4d?\]: e11 ! zdfhdxf: d9 FastFreak [1k\]: d10 Javaness [2d\]: M10 not really alive yet Kisei44 [7k\]: d10? ] ;W[dk]C[ColdPizza [7k?\]: d10 looks crude AhSayuni [4d\]: but b has lots of weak spots in the center Sandmann [-\]: white's spirit is his key for 5d-ship AhSayuni [4d\]: and it's very open anyway ] ;B[ej] ;W[gk]C[bro [3d\]: Sandmann - and skill too :) startgo1 [3k\]: some 7d-9d comments?ç ] ;B[el] ;W[em]C[Sandmann [-\]: well but drinking is more important bro [3d\]: as always :) AhSayuni [4d\]: seems like w would like to swallow f4 ColdPizza [7k?\]: i think w would like to swallow e8 rather :) MilanMilan [9d\]: w in trouble zdfhdxf: i agre MilanMilan [9d\]: F7 MilanMilan [9d\]: Then push and cut nandazzo [3k\]: milan why you don t change your nick in RomaRoma? AhSayuni [4d\]: ah AhSayuni [4d\]: but w doesn't have to capture the cutting stone ] ;B[ci]C[AhSayuni [4d\]: can escape flashback [7d\]: f7 ! ColdPizza [7k?\]: c11 looks overplay MilanMilan [9d\]: Caz I support AC Milan nandazzo [3k\]: :) cashcow [4d?\]: G7! bro [3d\]: f7 and kill? flashback [7d\]: f7 and kill all inside flashback [7d\]: exactly AhSayuni [4d\]: does he have to? bro [3d\]: piece öf cake :) cashcow [4d?\]: it makes catalin worried at least Javaness [2d\]: wow C11 bro [3d\]: flash: read out? Sandmann [7d\]: there is still d8 ColdPizza [7k?\]: f7 c8 AhSayuni [4d\]: not enough to force to live and use the outside? cashcow [4d?\]: yeah C8 can cut zdfhdxf: d8 might be good enough here EuroGoTV1 [-\]: results: http://eurogotv.com/tournament/pitesti/results.html cashcow [4d?\]: d11 Javaness [2d\]: \\o/ mamutik [1d\]: finally!!! mamutik [1d\]: thanks bro [3d\]: thanks ! EuroGoTV1 [-\]: pairing: http://eurogotv.com/tournament/pitesti/pairing%20round%203.html bro [3d\]: Cehia 6d - haha :D minismurf [-\]: so, how is this pair? minismurf [-\]: or Team i mean flashback [7d\]: :) Javaness [2d\]: Team AhSayuni [4d\]: I don't understand flashback [7d\]: a bit funny ColdPizza [7k?\]: f7 c8 d8 b10 b9 c9 b8 ...seems b still in trouble like this? ] ;W[fm]C[flashback [7d\]: ! bro [3d\]: hohoho!!! cashcow [4d?\]: wow AhSayuni [4d\]: :) Kisei44 [7k\]: :) mamutik [1d\]: it is probably the rank of the strongest player cashcow [4d?\]: here comes blud! Javaness [2d\]: hot! cashcow [4d?\]: kill the kitty! flashback [7d\]: now catalin isnt 100% sure about the situation MilanMilan [9d\]: anyway c11 is unneccessary bro [3d\]: cak ! flashback [7d\]: sure flashback [7d\]: but mistake came cashcow [4d?\]: j11 look thin now MilanMilan [9d\]: but I still bet on catalin cashcow [4d?\]: lol flashback [7d\]: if you dont trust young blood ] ;B[ef]C[Kisei44 [7k\]: yep MilanMilan [9d\]: pro could handle such situation goblinking [2k\]: if b lives inside ... w has not many points .... flashback [7d\]: pro or not ... MilanMilan [9d\]: E14 should be aiming to ladder cashcow [4d?\]: e12 > cashcow [4d?\]: divide and conquer sameasyou [2d\]: hello sameasyou [2d\]: Eurogotv...who are u? Dreamland [1k?\]: e9 was too deep then ? lazy [?\]: hah i'm a coward so i'd c13 or something :) EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i am myself Kisei44 [7k\]: :) ColdPizza [7k?\]: i think calmly connecting at e15 is OK EuroGoTV1 [-\]: not as you cashcow [4d?\]: after connecting it looks like a target EuroGoTV1 [-\]: because you are like me Dreamland [1k?\]: if e15, g13 ? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: see my info ColdPizza [7k?\]: it is a fight...even with e12, it will still be a fight. Kingu [-\]: lol Kisei44 [7k\]: C13 is possible? Empy [7k\]: I think white should've played E17 earlier, seemed sente and would've been stronger now. MilanMilan [9d\]: the way to handel such situation sameasyou [2d\]: I checked ur info...thanks jojo1 [8k\]: waar zijn de resultaten? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/tournament/pitesti/pairing%20round%203.html MilanMilan [9d\]: it's to find the way to trade EuroGoTV1 [-\]: results: http://eurogotv.com/tournament/pitesti/results.html MilanMilan [9d\]: and judge what you could give up MilanMilan [9d\]: andtry to find it's there any weak points of w MilanMilan [9d\]: Then make use of it r0d [12k\]: These players are playing on kgs or in real? sameasyou [2d\]: anyway after e15 b almost alive there with b10 and c14, isn't it Milan? ColdPizza [7k?\]: real r0d [12k\]: ok thx goblinking [2k\]: how you would apply these principles here Milan ? MilanMilan [9d\]: Now every single stones could be sacrifice to b MilanMilan [9d\]: right? MilanMilan [9d\]: That's the real advantage MilanMilan [9d\]: if I played cashcow [4d?\]: g13 e15 e16 e17 c13 flashback [7d\]: b11? Korea4K [2d\]: D17 MilanMilan [9d\]: I will choose G12 instead of E14 Korea4K [2d\]: sorry E17 ] ;W[bi]C[sameasyou [2d\]: I see flashback [7d\]: ! sameasyou [2d\]: wow...g going for the kill Dreamland [1k?\]: g13 ] ;B[gh]C[Dreamland [1k?\]: i wasnt far :p ] ;W[fi] ;B[fg]C[goblinking [2k\]: b want to sacrifice e10 ? AhSayuni [4d\]: exchangi? Dgom69 [6k\]: the idea is to sacrifice E9 groupand then attack the top? dutch2dan [2d\]: attack? gospiller [7k\]: Agree Dgom69 Dreamland [1k?\]: black is in now HorseHorse [3k\]: white can live here ? ] ;W[ee]C[cashcow [4d?\]: B seems to play fast compared to W cashcow [4d?\]: at this rate W will be exhausted in another 20 moves Javaness [2d\]: surely black can't kill all :) Dgom69 [6k\]: can w connect B16 with B11?? I think this is key now Pinguschaf [5d?\]: looks really bad for white Dreamland [1k?\]: what about e12 now ? HorseHorse [3k\]: c14 ? Haarris [7k\]: e11? Piconzaz [6k?\]: even c13 no ? nasgor [12k\]: c13 unblocked mafutrct [1k\]: c14 g13 i suppose col [2k\]: b h14 threaten j16 and connect? MilanMilan [9d\]: b shape look not that good mafutrct [1k\]: j16? who is interested in k16? col [2k\]: then p3 cashcow [4d?\]: i bet c14 Dreamland [1k?\]: g13 seems to threaten black lazy [?\]: i don't know, you dont worry about b connection? cashcow [4d?\]: surely w looks heavier than B hume [4k\]: in what sense heavier? Dgom69 [6k\]: but if C14 I think W can cut black by starting playing at H12 , no? alexanderp [?\]: Go Serbia, go go go cashcow [4d?\]: top w is too many seeds cashcow [4d?\]: cat seems to be surprised by W's connection Dreamland [1k?\]: what if w g13 ? cashcow [4d?\]: expecting a free lunhc? dutch2dan [2d\]: c13? braindead [3k\]: if c13 w d7 will be in danger? Dgom69 [6k\]: if C13 then B13 seems good for black though no? mafutrct [1k\]: d7 is ok cashcow [4d?\]: d7 small Dgom69 [6k\]: if C13 then B13 seems good for white though no? braindead [3k\]: ok braindead [3k\]: c13 is b move not white hume [4k\]: imho even if b can stu cashcow [4d?\]: c14 hume [4k\]: imho even if b can survive, he will end in gote iceburn [9k\]: what is gote? Azortn: sorry, are the results of the tournament posted somewhere? Javaness [2d\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?gote Javaness [2d\]: http://eurogotv.com/tournament/pitesti/pairing%20round%203.html mamutik [1d\]: does the transmission work? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, but very choppy clayton [-\]: gote is one of the hardest moves to master in go goblinking [2k\]: why is there fast only east-european teams in this team championship ? west european have been beaten or they didn't want to come because it was too far ? hume [4k\]: yes, but slow here (ITALY) iceburn [9k\]: tnx AhSayuni [4d\]: where can we see the team members lists? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: there are spanish and finnish teams EuroGoTV1 [-\]: other counties were afraid EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and german team Javaness [2d\]: I would have liked to have gone goblinking [2k\]: finish is east of europe ... and because there is 1 spanish, I said "fast" cashcow [4d?\]: it's not that hard. PASS. Javaness [2d\]: but a bit expensive hume [4k\]: black is thinking a lot, troubled Javaness [2d\]: finland is northern europe EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the chickens are the Dutch, French, British mafutrct [1k\]: goblin do you mean "almost"? cashcow [4d?\]: what are chickens? goblinking [2k\]: yes Azortn: well, the tournament is IN east europe, so it's natural EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, it is cheaper for me to go from amsterdam to here then to go to Lyon Dgom69 [6k\]: and why not simply D10 Javaness [2d\]: it takes maybe 3 planes from Ireland to get there Dgom69 [6k\]: since no, with G13 black is ok there Dgom69 [6k\]: since now Javaness [2d\]: I am a little suprised more countries didn't attend though EuroGoTV1 [-\]: from ireland to amsterdam and from amsterdam to here Javaness [2d\]: which city is it in? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it was 2 hours flying from amsterdam Azortn: Pitesti EuroGoTV1 [-\]: very nice city and people cashcow [4d?\]: how about d10 and connect everything up Azortn: it looks pretty good in google earth kevisyum [10k\]: for b i like c 14 XD Javaness [2d\]: hurrry up Catalin Dgom69 [6k\]: but it is like also if H11 was a key point...because H12 can hurt a lot I think.. ] ;B[cf]C[Sandmann [-\]: how about b f12? kevisyum [10k\]: whoot yithril [2d\]: YES yithril [2d\]: he played my move yithril [2d\]: YES verdant [11k\]: w might be risk yithril [2d\]: woooho! cashcow [4d?\]: mine too! cashcow [4d?\]: now b14 Javaness [2d\]: C14 an obvious move Dgom69 [6k\]: :D lazier: not mine i wouldn't know what to play kevisyum [10k\]: :P cashcow [4d?\]: lots of kitbitzers suggest C13 ] ;W[gg]C[Dgom69 [6k\]: now a big and strong fight is on! ] ;B[hg] ;W[gf]C[mikan [5k?\]: In what country is B certified as a professional? ] ;B[fh] ;W[hh]C[Joshua96 [3k\]: japan pel [3k\]: japan ] ;B[hi]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Japan sameasyou [2d\]: Japan..he lived there for 10 years ] ;W[ih] ;B[jh] ;W[ig] ;B[if] ;W[hf] ;B[jg] ;W[hg]C[mikan [5k?\]: Thanks ] ;B[gj]C[kevisyum [10k\]: nice ] ;W[fj] ;B[fk]C[verdant [11k\]: nice Denniskutl [2d\]: what is the relationship of dusan to nicolai mitic? Medice [4d\]: is it? goblinking [2k\]: b seems able to live inside ? Sandmann [-\]: older brother Javaness [2d\]: brothers aren't they HorseHorse [3k\]: is that a kill or not ? verdant [11k\]: amazing Sandmann [-\]: and board 4 is the father i think Denniskutl [2d\]: hmm thx baned4life: e11 for white startgo1 [3k\]: all family there startgo1 [3k\]: :D guta [3d\]: coach is on board 4 cashcow [4d?\]: e11 first ] ;W[hj] ;B[ei] ;W[gj]C[nasnad [1d\]: b in control it seems Javaness [2d\]: dynamic ] ;B[gl]C[Medice [4d\]: how about h9 braindead [3k\]: it seems hard for w now... cashcow [4d?\]: that's bad Medice [4d\]: ;) AhSayuni [4d\]: b seems busy to me sameasyou [2d\]: w can cut ] ;W[ij]C[Javaness [2d\]: black give bootstrap [5d?\]: B12 R6 [1k\]: f8 goblinking [2k\]: why w h10, .. e11 was not a good way to destroy the b shape ? Haboru [4d\]: F8 semt possible instead of J10 Dgom69 [6k\]: k11 then b kills the top and the new isolated group (or almost) H10 !! AhSayuni [4d\]: it's funny to try and realize who is in trouble here... kevisyum [10k\]: ya bootstrap [5d?\]: B11 or C12 first sameasyou [2d\]: if e11 lives then b clearly ahead on points AhSayuni [4d\]: but j15 is an eye so maybe w's better bootstrap [5d?\]: But K11 looks severe Dgom69 [6k\]: I would like to see it play !! :) kevisyum [10k\]: y ai say k11 @_@ Javaness [2d\]: the game is a bit confusing Sandmann [-\]: catalin would say that it is enough for b to live with the group nasnad [1d\]: it is just fighting sameasyou [2d\]: f8 cashcow [4d?\]: SE says W+80.5 sameasyou [2d\]: SE is the funniest guy on KGS bro [3d\]: and SE beats Lee Chang ho on 3 stones hume [4k\]: +362.5 now, without komi AhSayuni [4d\]: if b connects, like he must, I suppose, I don't know if w can get k10 and then it will be a mess when b gets it Dgom69 [6k\]: yes, but I think black wants to attack / Cut / destroy every group, and intend to obtain the resignation of W Dgom69 [6k\]: playing the most severe way, no ?? braindead [3k\]: hume's SE is even funnier game19fan [11k\]: ha ha resign now bootstrap [5d?\]: NExt move will decide the game Dgom69 [6k\]: I geuss too.. Dgom69 [6k\]: guess bootstrap [5d?\]: B is reading W L18 kevisyum [10k\]: b k11 w k 10 to connect then b j16? Dgom69 [6k\]: question is if blacn can't connect F8, what happens there, can he lives? ] ;B[ji]C[bootstrap [5d?\]: wow hume [4k\]: good point dgom.. Dgom69 [6k\]: coool!!! goblinking [2k\]: blood and tears ... bootstrap [5d?\]: now it is interesting Woland [5k\]: what a suprise... sameasyou [2d\]: wow Dgom69 [6k\]: a bloody part starts !! :) hume [4k\]: now the same question for w... hume [4k\]: ;) Ops [3d\]: they r too weak . braindead [3k\]: k10? Denniskutl [2d\]: cut at f8 now? Dgom69 [6k\]: lol bootstrap [5d?\]: don't cry if it ends up seki tomason [1d\]: I thikb B will lose the semeai? Dgom69 [6k\]: hahaha !! Ops [3d\]: TOO WEAK PLAYERS ... ] ;W[fl]C[Javaness [2d\]: interesting Dgom69 [6k\]: waoooooooo kevisyum [10k\]: cool Ops [3d\]: THEY PLAY LIKE A BEGINNER ! baned4life: haha braindead [3k\]: now k10, eheh kevisyum [10k\]: i wouldnt say that ;) Dgom69 [6k\]: take a flight and teach them ! bootstrap [5d?\]: B10? mamutik [1d\]: ops: like you would be better tomason [1d\]: what is your problem, Ops? bootstrap [5d?\]: or C12 Ops [3d\]: TOO WEAK ] ;B[bh]C[TeHokioi [11k\]: chill down ops bootstrap [5d?\]: hmm Ops [3d\]: WHAT'S R THEIR RANKS ? hume [4k\]: w forced to play so: can't defend everything and attack too! bootstrap [5d?\]: still my B12 cashcow [4d?\]: w seems short of libs cashcow [4d?\]: and short of EYES! bootstrap [5d?\]: but, w can then live with two eyes? kevisyum [10k\]: 5d and 5p its next to thier names lol TeHokioi [11k\]: What's the theoretical difference between 5d and 5p? Ops [3d\]: GAME S OVER ! cashcow [4d?\]: b14 Dreamland [1k?\]: d11 kevisyum [10k\]: i believe 2 - 3 worlds XD Dgom69 [6k\]: seem to live.... Ops [3d\]: IT'S LIKE A 1 D OR 2D 'S GAME. TeHokioi [11k\]: xD No but how many stones would they play to be even? bootstrap [5d?\]: c12 or E17 Ops [3d\]: R THEY 5D ? Fenix [1k\]: w can c12 trade Ops [3d\]: WOW ! kevisyum [10k\]: oh - Id guess 6 XD Dgom69 [6k\]: C12 then D11, then? Ops [3d\]: TOO WEAK . R6 [1k\]: shut up ops, you are a pathetic 3d tsuchigumo [-\]: Ditch the troll somebody. braindead [3k\]: ops, go home... Ops [3d\]: TOO WEAK Genotive [3k\]: admins can mute him Delysid [11k\]: b win bro [3d\]: kid behind computer bootstrap [5d?\]: D11 won't happen Ops [3d\]: CHINESS R BETTER ... hume [4k\]: ops, come on, behave like a dan player... R6 [1k\]: boot Empy [7k\]: Don't feed the troll. Dgom69 [6k\]: why? Ops [3d\]: TOO WEAK Iciac [9k\]: Wikipedia said not to... Ops [3d\]: DON'T WATCT THIS snowman [-\]: we feed it, you boot it mamutik [1d\]: so don´t Ops [3d\]: BEGINNERS GAME ! Dgom69 [6k\]: leave ops alone Tutor [-\]: java sleeping? Dgom69 [6k\]: let's him talk R6 [1k\]: pls do your job, admin mamutik [1d\]: and stop say such a stuff, ops ... bootstrap [5d?\]: Oops, better shut your mouth and stop behaving like a clown hume [4k\]: censored Ops [3d\]: TOO WEAK .... baned4life: hehe Iciac [9k\]: Just place him on your ignore list if it's too much of a problem Iciac [9k\]: Don't wait for the admins Dgom69 [6k\]: by chatting you play his game...better to leave him alone untill he get banned snowman [-\]: he has admittedly learned some english lacalma [7k?\]: user -> censor list -> add Biquette07 [-\]: ops is too strong to play go Dreamland [1k?\]: why not d11 ? Delysid [11k\]: wot different between 5d & 5p ? Genotive [3k\]: ops is gone Dgom69 [6k\]: bootstrap , why D11 won't happen Dgom69 [6k\]: ? Javaness [2d\]: oops Genotive [3k\]: lol lacalma [7k?\]: lol goblinking [2k\]: bootstrap, what does e17 bring to w ? snowman [-\]: it's corner time for java kevisyum [10k\]: i think w d 13 @_@ bootstrap [5d?\]: In my humble opinion, D11 is a aji keshi (speeling check please) bootstrap [5d?\]: Do no good for w JoK [5k\]: what is a aji keshi? Dgom69 [6k\]: meaning, bad aji? Dgom69 [6k\]: lool Delysid [11k\]: i think the game is over Empy [7k\]: No ruining aji. Dreamland [1k?\]: if d11, b has to d12 or e12 ? ] ;W[bj]C[bootstrap [5d?\]: wow bootstrap [5d?\]: I would K10 first. Iciac [9k\]: wow? Iciac [9k\]: haha =P ] ;B[dh]C[SR123 [9k\]: why not c12 d11 b13? Dgom69 [6k\]: G8 is still there treatening... moreover bootstrap [5d?\]: w is so confident cashcow [4d?\]: j15 is one eye cashcow [4d?\]: b14 is another bootstrap [5d?\]: Or is B10 too confident Dgom69 [6k\]: yes he seems very confident or try to live also ...before being killed ] ;W[dj]C[cashcow [4d?\]: huh??? Empy [7k\]: Wait, white could live there anyway right? cashcow [4d?\]: poor kitty. i thikn kitty is dead. Dreamland [1k?\]: he had to d10, or else b lives easily TeHokioi [11k\]: but it's not terribly bad if he lives? so long as black lives too black is ahead? kevisyum [10k\]: if both live i hink black has better aji uurtamo [9k?\]: b14? Dgom69 [6k\]: That depends on the bottom no? Medice [4d\]: i dont quite understand what you people are talking about.. kevisyum [10k\]: b14 is nice hume [4k\]: yes, but, what about c4, considered in gote? Medice [4d\]: how can d15 live locally if black lives here? Medice [4d\]: this is a semeai to me Iciac [9k\]: Hume, explosives are never the answer hume [4k\]: ;) ] ;B[di] ;W[bg]C[Dgom69 [6k\]: hihi!!! cool Javaness [2d\]: whine on you crazy diamond Javaness [2d\]: -shine tomason [1d\]: I would like to know how far b was reading when he played K11 SR123 [9k\]: I did not understand white b10 unless he is confident in killing black anyway Iciac [9k\]: black is dead here? GoGogorgon [6k\]: still looks like s eki uurtamo [9k?\]: not seki. SuicideBot [1d\]: no seki ] ;B[bf]C[Iciac [9k\]: oh - my bad, I missed the upper white ] ;W[ah] ;B[cg] ;W[ch]C[Iciac [9k\]: That's what I get for coming in halfway through =( Dgom69 [6k\]: lol kevisyum [10k\]: b d15 hume [4k\]: ko! Delysid [11k\]: make 2 eyes AhSayuni [4d\]: k10? tomason [1d\]: D15 goblinking [2k\]: hard for w to win a ko beause of threats on G9 Dgom69 [6k\]: it s freaking good game!!! violent like we like them !!! Javaness [2d\]: how to make 2 eyes kevisyum [10k\]: e 13? nasnad [1d\]: b will have to sac some stones? cashcow [4d?\]: semai mikan [5k?\]: If D15 what about E17? Iciac [9k\]: e14/ Onmyoji [2d\]: i count w+74.5 uurtamo [9k?\]: lol TeHokioi [11k\]: SE counts that too cashcow [4d?\]: if it's seki, W wins big time Kirigo: k10 ? cashcow [4d?\]: W centre is STONG Empy [7k\]: 2d's are amazing. nasnad [1d\]: how does w win? Dreamland [1k?\]: if it's seki, B wins, not W >.> twold [2k\]: big time, are you blind? cashcow [4d?\]: no way ] ;B[hl]C[Kuros [6k\]: wat Dgom69 [6k\]: you think W center is trong...me I think more that he is in bad shape as there this hit, plus the roight is very black ! Dgom69 [6k\]: no? Chilltime [2k\]: ko` cashcow [4d?\]: W centre is worth 30 points at least Iciac [9k\]: d13 ] ;W[jj] ;B[bh]C[cashcow [4d?\]: if h8 is killed AhSayuni [4d\]: I killed n10 for se (and e12 in gote) and he said w+0.5 ] ;W[ec]C[Dreamland [1k?\]: there we are hume [4k\]: in ko-mode, better c2 or c3 by white? Dreamland [1k?\]: capture and live dib [1k\]: live & let live ? Dreamland [1k?\]: and end in sente to attack k10 Iciac [9k\]: Hmm - any reason why k10 over d13? Javaness [2d\]: could he give that? Onmyoji [2d\]: a13 Dreamland [1k?\]: a13 Empy [7k\]: Corner is pretty big loss. Dreamland [1k?\]: black can attack d7 or k10 next ] ;B[eb]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: wrong move Empy [7k\]: Nah I think it's good. ] ;W[ch]C[R6 [1k\]: what was right? Sandmann [-\]: there is still d8 hume [4k\]: w risklosing d9 with c8 karesim [5k\]: e16? ] ;B[kk]C[dib [1k\]: looks smaller than D12, according D6 must then find life floresX07 [1k\]: if b ignores e17, then all center is in peril... kevisyum [10k\]: b 16 is sente kevisyum [10k\]: b e16 ] ;W[kj]C[dib [1k\]: but will be answered as long as there are threats big enough ] ;B[bh]C[hume [4k\]: after the sequence in the center, b can turn back in the corner and than c8 TeHokioi [11k\]: is B E 16 a ko threat? badmoves [9k\]: iI think b use the ko to build external wall and connect f4 with h8. is posible? tokko [-\]: q13, TeHokioi [11k\]: to then cut E15 tokko [-\]: ? TeHokioi [11k\]: D15 lacalma [7k?\]: if w a13...? ] ;W[lf]C[StefanRadu [2d?\]: j16 hume [4k\]: connect both looks difficult, better to save h8 by go ahead with say k7 uurtamo [9k?\]: errrr. Thew [1k\]: to err is human, to forgive is divine. sameasyou [2d\]: e16 hume [4k\]: consider e3 and g3 still in danger Dgom69 [6k\]: Black stil have J16 ...so can he nignore this treat ? Dgom69 [6k\]: ignore Javaness [2d\]: i wondered this ] ;B[id]C[mafutrct [1k\]: a13 l15 j16 j17 ] ;W[ch]C[cashcow [4d?\]: w lost an eye! Dgom69 [6k\]: yep...! HorseHorse [3k\]: h15 Empy [7k\]: All or nothing now. ] ;B[hc]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: b alive HorseHorse [3k\]: or that uurtamo [9k?\]: what the what was that? guiguistar [2d\]: scary Dgom69 [6k\]: change in strategy.... attacsking now....a tough fight! long1331 [5k\]: Semiai uurtamo [9k?\]: liberty miscount? hume [4k\]: is that in the semeai eventually w is lost nasnad [1d\]: looks hopeless for w Empy [7k\]: D14? long1331 [5k\]: yup long1331 [5k\]: W is in big problem ] ;W[af]C[sameasyou [2d\]: there is another ko at a14 R6 [1k\]: w lost long ago sameasyou [2d\]: lol ] ;B[bh]C[long1331 [5k\]: still Ko :D cashcow [4d?\]: j15 bootstrap [5d?\]: OMG TeHokioi [11k\]: ? cashcow [4d?\]: d18 ? hume [4k\]: now c12 is a sort of gote for w :( TeHokioi [11k\]: Enlighten us bootstrap Dreamland [1k?\]: that's bad Dreamland [1k?\]: w has to b15 Kakarott [5k\]: A15 :P bootstrap [5d?\]: Me? haha Dreamland [1k?\]: or else, it might turn into a double ko hume [4k\]: c2? Dreamland [1k?\]: or a15 yeah tsuchigumo [-\]: a13 doesn't work for w ] ;W[ie] ;B[je] ;W[ch]C[bootstrap [5d?\]: hmm bootstrap [5d?\]: w H16 can create another ko uurtamo [9k?\]: d8 isn't a threat? tomason [1d\]: seems that Catalin is sure now ] ;B[ae]C[Dreamland [1k?\]: b can gain a step in that ko Dreamland [1k?\]: like that cashcow [4d?\]: b12 flashback [7d\]: b12 cashcow [4d?\]: yay! tsuchigumo [-\]: if b12 b wins semeai cashcow [4d?\]: but 1 eye kills no eye ] ;W[bh] ;B[eg]C[badmoves [9k\]: looks seki for me CBlue [1k?\]: w d14? Empy [7k\]: B15? SuicideBot [1d\]: ... cashcow [4d?\]: how about we all b15 and call it a day? Kakarott [5k\]: B15 ko Dreamland [1k?\]: cant be seki, one eye vs no eye Javaness [2d\]: black has an eye, hard to make seki zum [?\]: b is 5p Javaness [2d\]: white C15 kind of failure k43r [1k\]: ah right so seki is easy tomason [1d\]: what is the answer to D14? Dreamland [1k?\]: b15 only think DrDrakken [1k\]: haha, no seki with 5ps? or whats the message, zum ;) CBlue [1k?\]: oops missed d8 k43r [1k\]: if b is p5 it will be seki sure Kakarott [5k\]: seki = both alive? Ninjan [5k\]: Is Dusan Mitic a pro too? TeHokioi [11k\]: yes Ninjan [5k\]: yes kakarott R6 [1k\]: no, but he is a ninja dmc [1k\]: no seki.. Ninjan [5k\]: laughing my face off son Lilltiger [1d\]: Dusan is 5d ama k43r [1k\]: seki is ok for b Ninjan [5k\]: lilltiger, när blev du daN? hur länge har ud spelat? DrDrakken [1k\]: Which can be easily inferred by the [5d\] behind his name Dreamland [1k?\]: there is no seki Dreamland [1k?\]: once and for all Empy [7k\]: What seki? R6 [1k\]: actually a teenage mutant ninja turtel, but thats a secret Javaness [2d\]: if black fills E12 can be seki Lilltiger [1d\]: jag blev dan för nått år sen typ, spelat sen 2004 men spelar inte mycket Ninjan [5k\]: ajt män Dreamland [1k?\]: why would he fill e12 lol cashcow [4d?\]: i just cloned the game and it seems W kills B EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Pop wins with 13.5 Ninjan [5k\]: då har vi spelat lika länge typ.. synd att jag suger så Lilltiger [1d\]: började typ samtidigt som Fredrik Kakarott [5k\]: just do the ko with B15 cashcow [4d?\]: D14 ! Javaness [2d\]: tell Pop to drink a beer for me tm93 [2k\]: b 15 or d 14 time to count:/ DrDrakken [1k\]: go, christian, go cashcow [4d?\]: D14 kill B TeHokioi [11k\]: but .. white has no choice besides D14? atm? Cookiex [-\]: is this game still going? Kakarott [5k\]: i vote for B15 HorseHorse [3k\]: d14 b15 cashcow [4d?\]: can someone tell mitic that D14 kills B? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B 1x30 sec W 5 min left Cookiex [-\]: black died, right? ] ;W[be]C[k43r [1k\]: he can take b15 too, for ko Javaness [2d\]: live k43r [1k\]: ;d Cookiex [-\]: :o DrDrakken [1k\]: who did he play against? must have been some resilient fellow to continue a game like that HorseHorse [3k\]: ah, white gave in Cookiex [-\]: he lives? ] ;B[df]C[Javaness [2d\]: no choice Cookiex [-\]: oh? cashcow [4d?\]: what? uurtamo [9k?\]: now i'm sad. ] ;W[ed]C[Cookiex [-\]: how can't he kill? Empy [7k\]: ? ] ;B[fb]C[deft [3d\]: is this really working? DrDrakken [1k\]: chickened ] ;W[ab]C[cashcow [4d?\]: i checked! it's a kill! Cookiex [-\]: oh i see Cookiex [-\]: right k43r [1k\]: or... riddden Javaness [2d\]: tenuki ] ;B[ba] ;W[ad]C[HorseHorse [3k\]: at least black gets sente Kakarott [5k\]: wat? Cookiex [-\]: he needed to connect his group Cookiex [-\]: i see Denniskutl [2d\]: ? deft [3d\]: oh, I guess it would be too hard to win the ko if B didn't F18 Javaness [2d\]: H5? Dreamland [1k?\]: p3 ! Cookiex [-\]: is white behind now? Arhiman [1k\]: p3 ? Onmyoji [2d\]: kill ] ;B[gn]C[HorseHorse [3k\]: n10 needs life TeHokioi [11k\]: k so... SE B+94,5 xD lanchow [12k\]: did black had luck ? bro [3d\]: tough for white now Onmyoji [2d\]: yes hume [4k\]: good for play play safely cashcow [4d?\]: it's 5p brain control skill R6 [1k\]: w far behind since move 20 or so ] ;W[ml] ;B[dl] ;W[cl]C[cashcow [4d?\]: did any high dan check if W d14 would kill? ] ;B[cm]C[Dreamland [1k?\]: i checked bro [3d\]: R6 I cant count so precisely as you do ] ;W[cn]C[Dreamland [1k?\]: w loose 'cause of d8 liberty Dreamland [1k?\]: lose* ] ;B[bm] ;W[bn] ;B[bl] ;W[ck] ;B[dn] ;W[bk] ;B[gm] ;W[al]C[uurtamo [9k?\]: this is not ideal for w. ] ;B[fn] ;W[am]C[deft [3d\]: now B is looking pretty good Empy [7k\]: Not ideal an understatment? hume [4k\]: sure ] ;B[oq] ;W[or] ;B[pp] ;W[qq]C[Sean29: rawr! ] ;B[nq]C[denifl [2k\]: humans cannot beat pros ] ;W[nr]C[deft [3d\]: F3 is huge uurtamo [9k?\]: just call me mr. understatement. ] ;B[mf] ;W[kl]C[Lilltiger [1d\]: f3 isent urgent cashcow [4d?\]: that was really lame Javaness [2d\]: feels a bit over HorseHorse [3k\]: j3 ? ] ;B[lm]C[greenrat [5k\]: n10 group in great danger ] ;W[km] ;B[ko]C[deft [3d\]: it's a little urgent-- W can be attacked now with moves like J3 and if W protects F3 then the B group above is not 100% alive anymore uurtamo [9k?\]: O6? deft [3d\]: although it would be pretty hard to attack Lilltiger [1d\]: but l10 would have died ] ;W[kn] ;B[jo]C[uurtamo [9k?\]: do not like L6 greenrat [5k\]: while white protect n 10 group black make a verry good shape EuroGoTV1 [-\]: how much delay at the live TV feed? Dreamland [1k?\]: black doesnt have to kill here DrDrakken [1k\]: black has no worries in the world, and white has lost the game greenrat [5k\]: y ] ;W[ln]C[deft [3d\]: W is so far behind that the only way is to kill something Dreamland [1k?\]: he wins doing nothing .. badmoves [9k\]: now b j3 =victory? Empy [7k\]: J3 now looks like points in sente? deft [3d\]: needs more desperation in his moves deft [3d\]: playing safe now is equal to resign lanchow [12k\]: lol i just saw that there isn't a column named "i" : g h j k Javaness [2d\]: D2? R6 [1k\]: the best move in this situation is resign ] ;B[mq]C[Sean29: desperate move is desperate bro [3d\]: deft: or live on the right, also a way :) ] ;W[ol] ;B[nk]C[uurtamo [9k?\]: uh oh. ] ;W[mm]C[deft [3d\]: noooo, at least O8 and go down in flames EuroGoTV1 [-\]: answer please ] ;B[dq] ;W[dr]C[Sean29: huge ] ;B[cr]C[IGoofy [1d\]: 42 DrDrakken [1k\]: not watching stream euro, sorry EuroGoTV1 [-\]: :-( deft [3d\]: see, protecting F3 was urgent ] ;W[jr]C[jwc [-\]: the ultimate question? ] ;B[mr]C[Thew [1k\]: can you send me a link? I'll check it then, if no one wants to tsutsui1 [-\]: r there any more games going on now ] ;W[fr] ;B[ds]C[tomason [1d\]: video is almost not working, 1 frame in many seconds HorseHorse [3k\]: ah, an undo ] ;W[ip]C[deft [3d\]: haha, E2 would have been better ] ;B[jk] ;W[il]C[tsutsui1 [-\]: it could be a ko Empy [7k\]: Thew, found at EuroGoTV.org ] ;B[er] ;W[hr]C[HorseHorse [3k\]: that could be a kill ? ] ;B[hp]C[Empy [7k\]: Live feed doens't seem far behind. IGoofy [1d\]: show a fake vid from another tourney euro EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol ] ;W[jp]C[HorseHorse [3k\]: or a video from 50 years ago ] ;B[hq] ;W[iq]C[uurtamo [9k?\]: right. uurtamo [9k?\]: from 50 years ago. uurtamo [9k?\]: jesus. ProGoVerb [5k\]: j5 ] ;B[im]C[tomason [1d\]: well, I am in France now, maybe video is "en greve" Onmyoji [2d\]: i count b+50.5 Dreamland [1k?\]: on strike, in english ] ;W[lp]C[Empy [7k\]: Onmyoji it was funier the first time. Dontpoke [-\]: se ftw ] ;B[ro] ;W[rp] ;B[rn]C[tiasangnho [?\]: q7? uurtamo [9k?\]: s5 == please resign. HorseHorse [3k\]: hopefully black will let white live everywhere and just win on points Empy [7k\]: The live feed is very laggy though, I keep having to refresh. Dontpoke [-\]: s6 is please resign ] ;W[ph]C[Oogway [2k\]: bla ] ;B[qi] ;W[om] ;B[ns] ;W[ps]C[uurtamo [9k?\]: oh, man. uurtamo [9k?\]: insult, meet injury. IGoofy [1d\]: who is board 3 in romania 1 ? ] ;B[ql]C[SKP [1d\]: W so strong SKP [1d\]: B greenrat [5k\]: Bajenaru ] ;W[no]C[IGoofy [1d\]: thx greenrat [5k\]: welcome deft [3d\]: Romania team is almost certain to win uurtamo [9k?\]: o5 a little comedy for the audience. ] ;B[np] ;W[oo] ;B[op] ;W[rd] ;B[re] ;W[sc]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: what about russia ] ;B[oe] ;W[nf] ;B[ik]C[greenrat [5k\]: has a junior team ] ;W[jl] ;B[hk]C[greenrat [5k\]: not strong players ] ;W[ho] ;B[gp]C[StefanRadu [2d?\]: i feel that black is ahead:) Javaness [2d\]: romania-2 has a chance for 2nd place ] ;W[io] ;B[jn]C[SKP [1d\]: Dusan romania team ? Dontpoke [-\]: how many points does white have ? ] ;W[lh]C[greenrat [5k\]: ntz uurtamo [9k?\]: around 25. R6 [1k\]: about 10 SunShadow [-\]: not much greenrat [5k\]: dusan is serbian cherisse [2k\]: wh0's in romania team? ] ;B[lg]C[cherisse [2k\]: ahh Dontpoke [-\]: b9 is 6 points? deft [3d\]: B is staying calm tomason [1d\]: w has five times two eyes greenrat [5k\]: Taranu,Pop,Bajenaru and Burzo Cornel deft [3d\]: at this point there are some tactics based on the L4 cut ] ;W[pl]C[IGoofy [1d\]: w has one per territory + one per prisoner greenrat [5k\]: 7,7,7 and 6 d uurtamo [9k?\]: the l4 cut is not terribly friendly. ] ;B[pg] ;W[nb] ;B[mb] ;W[nc]C[IGoofy [1d\]: b same shaolinkid [-\]: resign time Dreamland [1k?\]: f3 Javaness [2d\]: maybe the ing timer will win HorseHorse [3k\]: black +5 ] ;B[pk]C[deft [3d\]: the thing is B needs to use M9 and M5 to get K7 sente or there is a shortage of liberties Dreamland [1k?\]: b5 mafutrct [1k\]: its too late to resign anyway ] ;W[se]C[deft [3d\]: but it looks possible to pull it off ] ;B[lk] ;W[mk] ;B[lo] ;W[kh] ;B[ll] ;W[kg] ;B[kd] ;W[ke] ;B[jc] ;W[kf] ;B[jd]C[IGoofy [1d\]: wot Arhiman [1k\]: b didn't see h15 ? Empy [7k\]: Why not take J15? ] ;W[mo] ;B[mp]C[HorseHorse [3k\]: because the kill is better EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B+R SunShadow [-\]: all dead :s bootstrap [5d?\]: oops verdant [11k\]: w dead nandazzo [3k\]: IUUIIIUUIU Javaness [2d\]: thanks harry StefanRadu [2d?\]: W CENTER IS SO SONG someone said:)) tomason [1d\]: thanks EuroGoTV1 [-\]: next round in 2.5 hours Kakarott [5k\]: O8 not working? Kakarott [5k\]: k HorseHorse [3k\]: o8 o6 p6 n6 Kakarott [5k\]: i see tomason [1d\]: can you tell us other results? baned4life: so you are broadcasting the next round? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes joe30045 [4k\]: why 5p plays black??????? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: nigiri zum [?\]: next time 5p takes handicap SKP [1d\]: tenuki kill W nandazzo [3k\]: w is good..black is mad bro [3d\]: could you move the camera on other boards after the comment? joe30045 [4k\]: it should p: Delysid [11k\]: the end shaolinkid [-\]: when is the next round bro [3d\]: thanks EuroGoTV1 [-\]: see my info tomason [1d\]: Was it 4:0 for Romania? zum [?\]: is this soccer? zongzi [7k\]: hahaha k43r [1k\]: >_> TeHokioi [11k\]: if white kept playing why didnt he go B4? TeHokioi [11k\]: or A3 Kakarott [5k\]: has white resigned? Delysid [11k\]: yeap shaolinkid [-\]: too bad i wont have time too see any of the next rounds R6 [1k\]: is it over? mamutik [1d\]: you are so lucky, that you can see anything through the camera :( bro [3d\]: its laging like hell bro [3d\]: and I have to refresh :) cherisse [2k\]: uhh new camera view cherisse [2k\]: why is that sameasyou [2d\]: w dead? Sethep [16k?\]: i would say yes Kwitina [19k\]: i think its over cherisse [2k\]: yeah, wow ])