(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[60]OT[1x30 byo-yomi]
GN[European Team Championship 2009  Romania1 vs Romania3]PW[Lucian Corlan]PB[Catalin Taranu]WR[5d]BR[5p]DT[2009-10-10]EV[European Team Championship 2009]RO[4]PC[Romania]US[HW9x9]C[Javaness [2d\]: hoi
TonyTiger [3d\]: 2nd post :)
TonyTiger [3d\]: what is this? :o
Javaness [2d\]: not sure who we get to see yet
xio [7k\]: b wins
witch [1d\]: no - W+6,5 ;P
xio [7k\]: counting clearly won't be needed in this game :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: waiting for nigiri
witch [1d\]: who will play ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Catalin Taranu 5p vs Lucian Corlan 5d
witch [1d\]: tnx
xio [7k\]: looks like a 3 stones difference...
Javaness [2d\]: Romania 1 - Romania 3
wychess [9k\]: how come romanians is playing against each other
witch [1d\]: Isn't that unfair ?
Javaness [2d\]: because the other countries are too weak :)
TonyTiger [3d\]: where is the russian team?
Javaness [2d\]: why was there no czech team?
jojo1 [8k\]: har
Javaness [2d\]: Russian team is in Russia
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: there is a czech team
TonyTiger [3d\]: ah. I see
jojo1 [8k\]: there is a czech team
Slug [1k\]: ooh, is this the start?
jojo1 [8k\]: har 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and there is also (a not so strong) Russian team
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ja
OsoAgonar [-\]: how is doing spanish team?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: not so good
OsoAgonar [-\]: T_T
Slug [1k\]: has it started yet?
jojo1 [8k\]: kan je even naar de chat
OsoAgonar [-\]: did they win some game?
Javaness [2d\]: who is in the czech team, i don't see them on registration page
dmc [1k\]: who is in the russian team?
Javaness [2d\]: some little kid kyu players from moscow
just9x9 [-\]: oh, the title is that prestigious?
Slug [1k\]: have they started yet?
MilanChe [-\]: java when this tournament started?
Javaness [2d\]: yesterday
Repacse [5k?\]: Sorry, the score estimation system cannot compute the score of this game.
Ceptryn [1d\]: where can I find current results?
jojo1 [8k\]: in the cz is jan simara  ondrej kruml
Ceptryn [1d\]: for thsi tourney?
long1331 [5k\]: i 'm comming
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, we are waiting for nigiri
long1331 [5k\]: anh long1331
Repacse [5k?\]: Did this game already reach the passing stage ?
just9x9 [-\]: ?
just9x9 [-\]: do you see any stones?
opabinia [3k?\]: Starts in 11 minutes? korrekt?
Repacse [5k?\]: Yes
just9x9 [-\]: oh you see stones?
Repacse [5k?\]: Sure, you don`t ?
just9x9 [-\]: wait, err, no ;)
Repacse [5k?\]: No problem :-)
Slug [1k\]: can we see video as well? or is that asking for too much?
Pik [1k?\]: when resultes after 3rd round will be on site?
DrDrakken [1k\]: wait, jan simara is in the czech team? how come he was on kgs some minutes ago? :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: in 15 minutes
Repacse [5k?\]: Nice, the video works, although there is some lag
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you can see him in the live tv stream now
bro [3d\]: in czech team is Jan Hora
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: oh, yes^^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
Repacse [5k?\]: eh, make that a lot of lag
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes.....a hell of a lot....
Repacse [5k?\]: :-)
dutch2dan [2d\]: You mean it is still broadcasting the previous game?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
bulldog [3k\]: http://www.shusaku.ro/eurogostat.html
megatron [?\]: when does this game start?
bulldog [3k\]: here are the teams
OrothB [5k\]: only one minute each? should be a quick game :-)
Repacse [5k?\]: the chairs have a nice red color
MilanChe [-\]: is there broadcasting of the games, euro ?
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;W[dd]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
Repacse [5k?\]: ah, the refresh worked
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;B[cp]C[Repacse [5k?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
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;W[pp]
;B[fc]C[loFi [1d\]: GO ROMANIA!
Javaness [2d\]: Lucian loves his fuseki
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;W[hc]
;B[nc]
;W[cf]C[knottycow [2d\]: arrghh
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;B[eq]C[megatron [?\]: why isnt the time ticking down?
masek [2d?\]: C Нашими коментами
masek [2d?\]: открыл в русской
knottycow [2d\]: kewl the kitty!
masek [2d?\]: Все Велкам
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;W[qn]C[Ceptryn [1d\]: OMG
just9x9 [-\]: it is a relay of a real life game megatron
Ceptryn [1d\]: when is there like 50 romanian teams?
DanielTom [3d\]: slow and solid. boring 
masek [2d?\]: Хех они чет быстро играют
megatron [?\]: thanks
Repacse [5k?\]: what kind of liquid is in the bottle please ?
bulldog [3k\]: when the host is romania
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: because this is a demo of a live game with real stones and clock
knottycow [2d\]: c10 
just9x9 [-\]: trollbeer repacse
loFi [1d\]: cool shape this game
DanielTom [3d\]: <.<
habi [?\]: có ai VN không ạ?
opabinia [3k?\]: Why is the 5p black?
minismurf [-\]: who else is on Catalin team?
habi [?\]: ^^
opabinia [3k?\]: Pop, Burzo and someone else.
MihaelaB [?\]: dragos bajenaru
minismurf [-\]: ah, toxxicu still playing ^^
minismurf [-\]: hard to beat that team 
habi [?\]: không có ai VN ạ?
habi [?\]: ???
mamutik [1d\]: the czech team is: Hora (6d), Danek (5d), Kruml (4d) and Kozelek (3d)
Excalibor [-\]: is Catalin playing right now?
opabinia [3k?\]: Teams: http://www.shusaku.ro/eurogostat.html
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;B[cg]C[MihaelaB [?\]: yes...go dream team ..:)
Javaness [2d\]: heh what's this move
OrothB [5k\]: looking at the entered teams, I predict romania will win...
Dreamland [1k?\]: wow ...
Javaness [2d\]: trickplay?
Excalibor [-\]: maybe a probe?
Spanjers [7k\]: hi eurogo!
opabinia [3k?\]: EGTV: Where are they playing? It looks very elegant in there...
Ceptryn [1d\]: mmm
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: Where does catalin get his/her 5p status?
Ceptryn [1d\]: c-13 normal?
OrothB [5k\]: japan
knottycow [2d\]: preparing to sacrifice F17
wychess [9k\]: missclick?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: in a hotel
bro [3d\]: laura will crush Cornel
Javaness [2d\]: Catalin got 5p in Japan
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: thx
jakotaki [1k\]: he got 5p in a hotel ?
bro [3d\]: by hundred I would say
MihaelaB [?\]: hehe
minismurf [-\]: nice page, flags waving a bit much, but always nice with pics :)
MihaelaB [?\]: laura never crush cornel....:))
bro [3d\]: :)
sheery [?\]: dunno where he gets it .. but in past he got it in Japan
Medice [4d\]: c13 was rather unexpected
loFi [1d\]: has someone seen ths attachment before?
opabinia [3k?\]: Nice hotel.
Javaness [2d\]: laura will destroy cornel!
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: Are there any Euro Go clubs that can give pro status ?
Repacse [5k?\]: no
mamutik [1d\]: is there some pairing?
Kuros [6k\]: isn't it a relatively common newer joseki
MihaelaB [?\]: never ever...
OrothB [5k\]: catalin is bullying the other player with strange joseki!
Excalibor [-\]: it looks like it
minismurf [-\]: not common, Catalin has been testing a few strange moves here
knottycow [2d\]: it's a ARRRGHH move
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, the EuroGoTV club
minismurf [-\]: but probably backing them up with some study ^^
Ceptryn [1d\]: So, russian didn't send any strong players?
Ceptryn [1d\]: I only see a Russia junior team
knottycow [2d\]: is russian part of europe?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
OrothB [5k\]: some of it at least
jojo1 [8k\]: club??
Excalibor [-\]: spain sent a good team, not the strongest but... quite reliable, i think
vothana [-\]: slow
Mandjames [6k\]: is this move usual ?
knottycow [2d\]: is poland still part of russia?
knottycow [2d\]: :)
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;W[df]
;B[dc]
;W[cc]
;B[cd]C[Ceptryn [1d\]: I wanted to see that russian pros too
iu87: svetlana
Excalibor [-\]: whoah
Excalibor [-\]: looks like fighting time
Ceptryn [1d\]: sabbkit here
just9x9 [-\]: whos is in the spanish team?
lolo3d [10k\]: someone know something on C13 ?
Ceptryn [1d\]: white is way over concentraed now...
Excalibor [-\]: Oscar Anguila and Joan Alemany, both 3d
Ceptryn [1d\]: booo I should use be decent dan account so I sound more believable, brb, lol
opabinia [3k?\]: It's good to concentrate on game.
knottycow [2d\]: perhaps b should have D17 and not C13...
kar1 [?\]: looks like a trick move
knottycow [2d\]: after D14, C16 is affected
Excalibor [-\]: i find hard to understand Catalin's moves unless he himself is explaining them sometimes :)
knottycow [2d\]: dun think C13 is a good exchange
Sleeptryn [4d\]: mmmm
Medice [4d\]: e16
Sleeptryn [4d\]: C-13 was to make white overconcentrated
baned4life: http://www.catalingoschool.com/
Sleeptryn [4d\]: now if whiter plays C-16
Sleeptryn [4d\]: it'll look rlly bad
minismurf [-\]: may consider c18?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: I think c-18 is possible
danigabi [5d\]: c13 interesting move
Sleeptryn [4d\]: better than b-16 at least
Medice [4d\]: e16 seems best to me..
danigabi [5d\]: but if w can c18 then its not so good?
DanielTom [3d\]: c13 maybe a new tesuji?
tpb [2d?\]: I doubt it
Excalibor [-\]: will white take the corner?
knottycow [2d\]: is it too early for tesuji now?
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;W[ec]
;B[db]
;W[ed]C[Sleeptryn [4d\]: give black corner?
just9x9 [-\]: its never too early for tesuji
OrothB [5k\]: interesting
Sleeptryn [4d\]: I rlly don't think white should be satsified with this
Excalibor [-\]: it looks like it
Sleeptryn [4d\]: H-17 and D-14 makes white look completely overconcentrated
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;B[bd]C[Medice [4d\]: not necessarily as black has wasted a few stones here
Excalibor [-\]: maybe that was the use for c13?
danigabi [5d\]: w fell to the  "trick"
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;W[eb]C[danigabi [5d\]: now black has b14 to connect
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;B[cb]C[danigabi [5d\]: thats the purpose of c13 all along
opabinia [3k?\]: Is this Catalin's team undefeated?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: ouch, B-14 left too
danigabi [5d\]: c13 should be answered at C15
tpb [2d?\]: b got a small corner tough
danigabi [5d\]: so the kikashi is good
knottycow [2d\]: yeah c15 would protect the corner
Sleeptryn [4d\]: white can't hope to make much terriroty left side either
opabinia [3k?\]: B is a thief, stealing corners.
Medice [4d\]: c15 is hard to see but probably proper idea, yeah
Excalibor [-\]: dani, is c13 part of a new joseki? or is it just trick/probe?
Repacse [5k?\]: f17 is a minus for black
knottycow [2d\]: W seems to have blocked the wrong side
Excalibor [-\]: however f17 is in the middle of that white wall, spoiling a bit the effect of h17, isn't it?
knottycow [2d\]: yeah
Slug [1k\]: is his real name captain?
minismurf [-\]: no, f17 is not doing much
knottycow [2d\]: h17 looks silly
opabinia [3k?\]: Whose real name?
knottycow [2d\]: o17 looks great
danigabi [5d\]: guys
danigabi [5d\]: just compare to the joseki -.-
Excalibor [-\]: dani, where's the joseki to be found? i don't know something that complex on a 4-4 stone... :-(
Repacse [5k?\]: my tewari isn`t what it used to be
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;W[qi]C[Excalibor [-\]: ah, big point
baned4life: Thats not a trick play?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: c-13 looks like its tricky play
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;B[jp]
;W[ck]C[danigabi [5d\]: excalibor
danigabi [5d\]: ill clone
Excalibor [-\]: thanks :)
daniug [1d\]: black sesms to cash...no doubt it looks stronger
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;B[cm]C[ZT1LB [3d\]: w probably preferrs credit to cash
knottycow [2d\]: B tenukied twice at upper left
knottycow [2d\]: then got a corner
Genghis [2k\]: White likes to lend cash and collect interest
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;W[bp]C[Uberdude [5d?\]: knotty cow, no, only 1 tenuki
knottycow [2d\]: okie
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;B[cq]C[knottycow [2d\]: he pay back with 1 gote
opabinia [3k?\]: Is b14 anything to write home about?
Cetoo [2k\]: now someone is gonna make a dubious joke about finance and crisis ;-)
kar1 [?\]: R14 big
iu87: b14 will be played, but not yet
knottycow [2d\]: m3 
Repacse [5k?\]: b14 connects
iu87: yep
iu87: we know
knottycow [2d\]: i think m3 looks bigger
knottycow [2d\]: undo?
Onmyoji [2d\]: why undo?
long1331 [5k\]: EuroTV miss click
long1331 [5k\]: :D
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;W[ek]
;B[bf]C[knottycow [2d\]: aw
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry
knottycow [2d\]: w lost...
knottycow [2d\]: this exchange is no good for W
knottycow [2d\]: those too stones could almost be a target
Sleeptryn [4d\]: this team comp looks like tis just going to be Catalin beating every1 up
opabinia [3k?\]: Is catalin's team still undefeated?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
mamutik [1d\]: and some czech guy will surprise ...
Sleeptryn [4d\]: they have no rival...
mamutik [1d\]: then
opabinia [3k?\]: Thats, EuroGo.
Uberdude [5d?\]: who else on his team?
Oogway [2k\]: b15?
opabinia [3k?\]: Cristian Pop, Cornel Burzo... and...
DrDrakken [1k\]: cant white cut this with b17 aji?
ani [8d?\]: mamutik: nice story! :)
Sleeptryn [4d\]: Russia didn't send any pros? :S
opabinia [3k?\]: Bajenaru Dragos.
Sleeptryn [4d\]: or a mature team for dat matter?
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;W[be]
;B[ce]
;W[bg]
;B[ae]
;W[bh]C[Oogway [2k\]: yay
DrDrakken [1k\]: looks like he can
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;B[de]
;W[ee]
;B[ef]C[opabinia [3k?\]: Thanks*
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;W[dg]C[long1331 [5k\]: lucky i'm in love
DrDrakken [1k\]: if that was a good idea is an entirely different matter :)
long1331 [5k\]: with my best friend ...
long1331 [5k\]: ( singing )
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: maybe the Russians were afraid just as the Dutch and French
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;B[ff]C[Medice [4d\]: well, this is rather bad situation to be in
Excalibor [-\]: mmm
Uberdude [5d?\]: where is the tourny?
OrothB [5k\]: no english team either :-(
Excalibor [-\]: now i don't understand the game :)
knottycow [2d\]: B F18 kills w
Repacse [5k?\]: white needs to defend the top now
Uberdude [5d?\]: i thought b might play top side before cutting
danigabi [5d\]: E12?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: black probably just want to completely own
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: in Pitesti, Romania 
Sleeptryn [4d\]: dominate
Uberdude [5d?\]: i guess deodns if w can L17 now
Repacse [5k?\]: f18 is too big
danigabi [5d\]: if w defends top black can d12
danigabi [5d\]: and make a center squeeze
danigabi [5d\]: and make e9 look silly
Nihilarian [?\]: why is the 5p black?
DrDrakken [1k\]: its a tournament
DrDrakken [1k\]: nigiri
DrDrakken [1k\]: or set
Nihilarian [?\]: I see.
opabinia [3k?\]: I think it is nigiri.
Nihilarian [?\]: I thought a 5d wouldn't even be comparable to a 5d...
Excalibor [-\]: komi should compensate anyway
tomash [4k\]: it looks like in a team vs team round there are 2 blacks on each side
Nihilarian [?\]: 5p wouldbe ...5p*
Excalibor [-\]: in Europe Catalin is "just" 7d :-)
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;W[fb]C[Dreamland [1k?\]: strong
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;B[jc]
;W[he]C[DrDrakken [1k\]: they are comparable. there should be around a 3stone difference :)
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;B[hf]C[Nihilarian [?\]: I love this game.
baned4life: but why does a strong player make overplays
knottycow [2d\]: guys, this sandbag game is just too painful to watch
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;W[ie]C[Excalibor [-\]: i'll be happier if i ever get to be a solid shodan though :-P
DrDrakken [1k\]: should have seen bernd radmacher against fj dickhut :)
knottycow [2d\]: it has all the signs of an impending slaughter
knottycow [2d\]: C12~!
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: knotty, take a walk if no eye see
knottycow [2d\]: i am gonna bath
Excalibor [-\]: j15 looks hard to deal with
minismurf [-\]: time to use C13?
DrDrakken [1k\]: catalin lost to 5dans before, nothing is decided yet
Repacse [5k?\]: how to make shape with those 3 black stones ?
Onmyoji [2d\]: i count w+3.5
Excalibor [-\]: cause... mmm if white manages to play j14 it looks bad for black on the upper right
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;B[dh]C[DrDrakken [1k\]: um.. yeah
DrDrakken [1k\]: really bad
DrDrakken [1k\]: like... almost dead
danigabi [5d\]: F18 looks very slow
danigabi [5d\]: i think its a mistake
danigabi [5d\]: i think it should be B18
Excalibor [-\]: okay... so this moves forces white to answer, looking for what?
DrDrakken [1k\]: b18? what would that do?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: then black plays F-12
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;W[eg]C[Sleeptryn [4d\]: makes shape
Sleeptryn [4d\]: and white goes lame
Excalibor [-\]: b18 would take out black from an eye
danigabi [5d\]: makes d19 sente
DrDrakken [1k\]: so?
danigabi [5d\]: so no need to prevent black f18..
danigabi [5d\]: so no need to defend at f18
danigabi [5d\]: and could defend more actively
danigabi [5d\]: like L17
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;B[eh]C[Excalibor [-\]: why e13 instead of c12? to have access to the center?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: oh
Sleeptryn [4d\]: he wants V-12
Sleeptryn [4d\]: B-12
DrDrakken [1k\]: I dont see how d19 prevents f18
Excalibor [-\]: atm the ladder works for white, mmm
Koukkaaja [2d\]: ladder indeed
Oogway [2k\]: o3 big ladder breaker
Excalibor [-\]: but b12 is almost connected to c9, isn't it?
DanielTom [3d\]: what ladder
Repacse [5k?\]: keyword is almost
danigabi [5d\]: lol
WuHoUnited [1k\]: f13 g13 f12 c12 b11 f11 then messy right
flosuji [2k\]: f 13 g 12
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: yes
AhSayuni [4d\]: Catalin likes diagonal fuseki it seems
Sleeptryn [4d\]: I hate parrallel fuski
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;W[fg]C[AhSayuni [4d\]: maybe afraid of new openings :p
Sleeptryn [4d\]: the standard ones anyway
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;B[fh]C[Excalibor [-\]: parallel is for territory and diagonal for influence, right?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: mmmm
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;W[gg]
;B[ch]C[opabinia [3k?\]: Mmm.
Excalibor [-\]: i kind of hate san rei sen :-)  gotta study further how to deal with it
TonyTiger [3d\]: sanrensei is boring
Repacse [5k?\]: give up those 2 stones ?
DrDrakken [1k\]: diagonal is for fighting, parallel for moyo, but thats more a tendency
Sleeptryn [4d\]: last time in SG league someone played tangen vs sanrensai
Sleeptryn [4d\]: lol
Excalibor [-\]: weird... that kills black on the g13 cut
Excalibor [-\]: tengen vs sanrensei (got the words flipped) ?
DrDrakken [1k\]: c11 looks like the only move
Sleeptryn [4d\]: nono
Repacse [5k?\]: g12 also possible
baned4life: b11 is better
Sleeptryn [4d\]: black plays sanresan
Sleeptryn [4d\]: white plays tangen
Sleeptryn [4d\]: on his 3rd move
Excalibor [-\]: i see
Excalibor [-\]: but tengen doesn't threat black position, does it?
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;W[bj]
;B[ci]
;W[bi]C[gryn [1k?\]: it somewhat flattens the moyo
ZT1LB [3d\]: is b gonna make a large moyo then
long1331 [5k\]: peep
Sleeptryn [4d\]: not directly, but it flattens his moyo
ikbenhet: c11?!
TonyTiger [3d\]: C11 beautiful
Repacse [5k?\]: h11 
baned4life: black is in trouble
splashy: this doenst look good for b
DrDrakken [1k\]: vital point
Sleeptryn [4d\]: I can't see why black playing like this
Excalibor [-\]: but white's living small on the scond line
Sleeptryn [4d\]: black has heavy floating group...
DrDrakken [1k\]: not yet
bootstrap [5d?\]: G12 or not?  it is a question
opabinia [3k?\]: ...
DrDrakken [1k\]: dont think b can connect g14
gryn [1k?\]: so is this?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: black H-11 sente as well
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: results: http://eurogotv.com/tournament/pitesti/results.html  pairing: results: http://eurogotv.com/tournament/pitesti/pairing.html
opabinia [3k?\]: 404 not found
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry, have to upload them
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 2 minutes
opabinia [3k?\]: For pairing.
baned4life: hehe
mamutik [1d\]: thanks! :)
opabinia [3k?\]: Thanks for the upload. :-) You are a nice cap.
opabinia [3k?\]: chap*
jojo1 [8k\]: volgens mij is de result list niet up to dat
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: try again
knottycow [2d\]: moo
knottycow [2d\]: g14 !
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;B[bl]C[opabinia [3k?\]: Working.
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;W[dm]C[minismurf [-\]: strange seq
Excalibor [-\]: hey Albert Sanchez won, well done for Spain :-)
Repacse [5k?\]: b4 dies this way
kar1 [?\]: B8 bad move
jojo1 [8k\]: result na ronde 2
jojo1 [8k\]: ?
codecentri: sorry for half ot, but can i find the other games online somewhere? the live tv stream is a still picture :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: refresh judith
jojo1 [8k\]: de lijst?
baned4life: b8 seems okay cause aims at cutting
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ja
meuns [1k\]: h11 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, this is it codecentr
jojo1 [8k\]: joepie
wychess [9k\]: besicaly you need to refresh every sec
DrDrakken [1k\]: if w plays b8 hes alive and threatening to free b4
meuns [1k\]: h11 !
DrDrakken [1k\]: So I guess there might actually have been some reasoning behind the 5ps move
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;B[fj]
;W[gh]
;B[gk]C[opabinia [3k?\]: No way. 5psjust throw stones down.
minismurf [-\]: black still leaving aji at G14
Sleeptryn [4d\]: why did black H11 first?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: didn't?
Repacse [5k?\]: g9 is nice too
Sleeptryn [4d\]: didn't
meuns [1k\]: maybe he wants to build the bottom
wychess [9k\]: didnt
bootstrap [5d?\]: so 5p is not considered in the result list?  or Catalin is not 5p, or this game is iirelevant?
minismurf [-\]: to keep aji at g14?
DrDrakken [1k\]: minismurf answered that alreayd
Repacse [5k?\]: more attacking this way
meuns [1k\]: taranu is 7d egf
bootstrap [5d?\]: I C
DrDrakken [1k\]: g14 might be serious later
knottycow [2d\]: A13 is half sente
baned4life: but 7 dan is the highest right?
meuns [1k\]: yes...
knottycow [2d\]: is catalin twoeyes?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: feel like black overplaying
DrDrakken [1k\]: no
Sleeptryn [4d\]: for the the hell of it
splashy: b is pro... w is not... b should win
baned4life: Yes a pro would not play like this
meuns [1k\]: c8 
opabinia [3k?\]: what happened with Pop's game?
opabinia [3k?\]: Nuclear tesuji?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: like black has set a hidden reverse komi on himself
bootstrap [5d?\]: Feel like b is over confident: no matter what, no sweat to beat w
Sleeptryn [4d\]: like he wants to win by at least 10 pts or something
]
;W[gi]C[Sleeptryn [4d\]: black was already winny, he had no need to start a complex fight like this... more fun I guess :D
Onmyoji [2d\]: ??????????????????????????
gryn [1k?\]: there is a fine line between making the game so safe you fall asleep and so dangerous you make a mistake :P
knottycow [2d\]: there is nuttin at G11
Repacse [5k?\]: hm, that isn`t sente
]
;B[fm]C[knottycow [2d\]: no cut
minismurf [-\]: well, G11 not sente... it is a shape point, but no good
]
;W[cl]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: POp won by resignation
bootstrap [5d?\]: w can make two eyes
]
;B[cn]C[wychess [9k\]: haha! white can kill d12 stones!!
bootstrap [5d?\]: G8, or resign?
knottycow [2d\]: but it's gote
]
;W[bk]C[Sleeptryn [4d\]: maybe rom1 made a bet with each other to see who can win the most
opabinia [3k?\]: W can kill d12 stones?
kakineko [9k\]: no d12 connected
wychess [9k\]: f11 solves all whites problems ?
]
;B[ik]C[opabinia [3k?\]: What does f11 do?
Repacse [5k?\]: f11 e10 e11 d10 
kakineko [9k\]: no f11 don't cut
knottycow [2d\]: wow, this 9k is stong
Sleeptryn [4d\]: white lives!
heresy [12k\]: i think g14 looking good now
kakineko [9k\]: ?
Repacse [5k?\]: b7 is gote again for white ?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: g-14 j-13
bootstrap [5d?\]: J9 thick
Genghis [2k\]: Is black developing a moyo on the bottom?
knottycow [2d\]: J9 doesn't look efficient
Excalibor [-\]: i can't get streaming from the tv online, just still pictures, i have to reload often, what a pity
knottycow [2d\]: W M3
Sleeptryn [4d\]: white conte,playing whether he can sente
bootstrap [5d?\]: J9 is very very efficient
heresy [12k\]: g14 sente 
Sleeptryn [4d\]: contemplating
iu87: k11
opabinia [3k?\]: k10
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, i am very sorry, cant help it, bandwidth is too low
]
;W[em]C[kakineko [9k\]: alive
tynogo [18k\]: yep
Excalibor [-\]: okay, no problem it's still cool :-)
tynogo [18k\]: black lived
bootstrap [5d?\]: O3
Sleeptryn [4d\]: gote life tho
]
;B[fl]C[gryn [1k?\]: to have a game broadcast is better than not.
Naurul [7k\]: f11
Excalibor [-\]: ar you actually updating this board from that camera or are you somewhere around the match?
gryn [1k?\]: no matter the form
Bouton [?\]: d5 
Excalibor [-\]: indeed
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i am besides the camera
Excalibor [-\]: ah, cool :-)
bootstrap [5d?\]: D5, b will B6
Excalibor [-\]: lucky us and thank you to you :-)
Naurul [7k\]: e10
kakineko [9k\]: Sleep is right.  E7 seems too slow?   W had B7 gote too?
knottycow [2d\]: d10 first
Excalibor [-\]: w e10 b f11...
]
;W[el]C[Excalibor [-\]: does that really help w to live in there?
opabinia [3k?\]: EuroGo \\ Where are your buddies EuroGoTV2, 3, etc.?
]
;B[mq]C[Hunyuan [6k\]: g14
ZT1LB [3d\]: yhes
bootstrap [5d?\]: hmm
heresy [12k\]: nice
iu87: large
dandalon [2k?\]: let g14 go :D
bootstrap [5d?\]: N3 is better than my o3?!!!!!!!!!!!!!??
kakineko [9k\]: O mine.  that E8,E9 seems slow?
Excalibor [-\]: okay now w lives, so let's attack the corner :-)
gryn [1k?\]: oh my look at the size of that one.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: there is not enough bandwidth for EuroGoTV2 etc
Repacse [5k?\]: o3 is invadable
dmc [1k\]: w looks scared..
wychess [9k\]: its is better
]
;W[fn]C[heresy [12k\]: i still like g14
dmc [1k\]: g14 - nothing
]
;B[qg]C[opabinia [3k?\]: Too bad, I'd like to see Cornel's game, etc.
]
;W[oq]C[bootstrap [5d?\]: W is coming out from a narrow alley
loaloa [1d\]: and keep sente if white answer p3 
gryn [1k?\]: yeah i'd love to see cornel too :)
heresy [12k\]: yeah
]
;B[qk]C[heresy [12k\]: i see now
]
;W[oi]C[Excalibor [-\]: nice pincer
heresy [12k\]: g14 pointless
wychess [9k\]: black is laughing loud now!
iu87: cornel is boozing
Excalibor [-\]: but j9 pretty helpful now
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i can see cornell in the slow live tv stream
Excalibor [-\]: has catalin seen this all the time?
bootstrap [5d?\]: N3 O3 exchange, is not acceptable for KGS 5d:-)
]
;B[ok]C[tomash [4k\]: go laura!
loaloa [1d\]: but for pro maybe ;)
wychess [9k\]: of course, apparently for them neither
opabinia [3k?\]: Can see him, but not his face. he looks suave and debonair as usual.
opabinia [3k?\]: face=game
Excalibor [-\]: now the thing is, will white manage to use the wall at g12 to help his stones at p11?
bootstrap [5d?\]: After D5, then w can still H3, b has nothing in the bootom.  O3 truly has M3 invasion, but has much more pressure at the e corner
]
;W[mj]
;B[ri]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thx!!!
Excalibor [-\]: np :)
danigabi [5d\]: now have to think about m17 or q17 or r17
Excalibor [-\]: keima does really make more sense for white anyway :-)
bootstrap [5d?\]: REally  hard for me to get a clue of waht is going on at top right corner
opabinia [3k?\]: Does it really? Not sure.
gryn [1k?\]: is he playing the last board on the table?
gryn [1k?\]: (cornel)
MihaelaB [?\]: yes, cornel
opabinia [3k?\]: Yes, gryn.
knottycow [2d\]: i think B+15.5
bootstrap [5d?\]: Or, sicne there is no obvious invasion, there is no obvious fix as well.  So no rush?
gryn [1k?\]: opa, thank you
]
;W[qc]C[Excalibor [-\]: m17 looks a good pincer if w managess to end up facing towards the center
]
;B[pc]C[Excalibor [-\]: san-san invasion, whoah
kakineko [9k\]: Um oh.....  here comes ko.
]
;W[rd]C[bootstrap [5d?\]: probe
]
;B[qb]C[ibd [6k?\]: f11??
bootstrap [5d?\]: now probe becomes real fight
wychess [9k\]: f11 doesnt cut
opabinia [3k?\]: :-)
wychess [9k\]: :)
]
;W[qe]
;B[rc]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: :)
Sleeptryn [4d\]: I thought white would s-13...
bootstrap [5d?\]: w earsed all the aji on top
Onmyoji [2d\]: ·‿·
ZT1LB [3d\]: he still can
]
;W[pd]C[bootstrap [5d?\]: if w can't get somehting at left, then game is lost
Excalibor [-\]: but now w can q13 and q15 facing to the center... his idea all the time?
]
;B[od]C[Excalibor [-\]: Catalin is fighting as well!
megatron [?\]: just joined...who is winning?
bootstrap [5d?\]: kitty fight?
kakineko [9k\]: we are
Onmyoji [2d\]: i count b+23.5
gryn [1k?\]: mega tron, the kibitzers as usual.
Excalibor [-\]: eurotv, will he commenting some games as he did for the 52th European?
dandalon [2k?\]: Onmyoji [2d\]: i count b+23.5  << haha
opabinia [3k?\]: Catalin is happy because there are no koreans here.
]
;W[qc]C[Excalibor [-\]: heh :-)
ZT1LB [3d\]: wow you perdicted perfect play for both sides for the rest of the game and counted?
wychess [9k\]: yes Onmyoji, behave yourself, its obvious 24.5
Onmyoji [2d\]: yes
opabinia [3k?\]: Onmyoji is super strong, 14p.
gryn [1k?\]: i believe in omny.
R6 [1k\]: b seems far ahead
dandalon [2k?\]: onmy now counting 16,5
Kuros [6k\]: really? me too!
Javaness [2d\]: *cough*
siulongbao [6k\]: siulongbao is 388p
ickypoo [4k\]: how is time?
gryn [1k?\]: java i have some ricola
Javaness [2d\]: oh thanks
wychess [9k\]: its very pleasant time
opabinia [3k?\]: Java, I have some cigarettes.
gryn [1k?\]: anytime :)
wychess [9k\]: we are having
Javaness [2d\]: ...
Sleeptryn [4d\]: err  G-14 area
Excalibor [-\]: i'd love to see Catalin commenting this match
Sleeptryn [4d\]: 500 kos
baned4life: If I was the president of japan I would strip catalin of his pro status based directly on this game
Excalibor [-\]: lol
opabinia [3k?\]: Troll alert.
Onmyoji [2d\]: lol
]
;B[qq]C[Excalibor [-\]: oops!
Onmyoji [2d\]: if i was president of romania i would make cataling 11p
Excalibor [-\]: nice ko threat!
megatron [?\]: if you were the presidentof japan.......hmmm
ickypoo [4k\]: EuroGoTV1, please, how is time?
saruna [3k\]: Hnn I thought Catalin got pro in Korea
opabinia [3k?\]: He did.
Javaness [2d\]: no Japan
Excalibor [-\]: japan
opabinia [3k?\]: didn't*
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Catalin is president of the Romanian go federation
saruna [3k\]: OK!
Javaness [2d\]: he is not an honourary pro either
baned4life: christian pop I think did it in korea right?
splashy: b has all 4 corners
megatron [?\]: quite a slow game?
ZT1LB [3d\]: if i were catalin of japan i would make romania 5p
opabinia [3k?\]: No, there is just lag between your computer and Romania. Game is actually 10 second blitz.
megatron [?\]: ah i see
gryn [1k?\]: opa, no being smart, that is my job.
wychess [9k\]: r3 is a joke?
sameasyou [2d\]: Pop also in Japan
Excalibor [-\]: so
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no joke
R6 [1k\]: Japanese are strong. Hutosi 7d only got 7th place in a school tournament there.
sameasyou [2d\]: until now there was no romanian studying in Korea
Excalibor [-\]: the corner is bigger than the ko, right?
gryn [1k?\]: yeah ko is not that important for black, if bottom gets weak
wychess [9k\]: r3 = i will play stupid moves now just for fun, coz there is no way i could possibly loose now
baned4life: q18 would be cool
opabinia [3k?\]: R3 is a good move, wychess. Gives B a corner or a ton of threats.
opabinia [3k?\]: LOSE not LOOSE.
Sleeptryn [4d\]: q-18
Sleeptryn [4d\]: enlarge dat ko
wychess [9k\]: Lose by loose
Excalibor [-\]: as a beginner, i find sansan invasion really powerfulfor this ko, as far as i don't understand the game, of course :-P
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B 34 W 13 minutes left
ickypoo [4k\]: thank you
Shira [13k?\]: Don't feel bad; I always screw up when someone invades that way. >_>
]
;W[qp]
;B[qd]C[Onmyoji [2d\]: me too
Sleeptryn [4d\]: white has a bunch of threats
saruna [3k\]: I tend to screwup when I invade
Excalibor [-\]: Catalin isn't paying a lot of attention to this ko :-) he's looking the next game as well :-)
]
;W[do]C[Excalibor [-\]: ah,m cool
Repacse [5k?\]: take ?
gryn [1k?\]: b6?
bootstrap [5d?\]: E5?
gryn [1k?\]: (as was pointed out earlier)
sameasyou [2d\]: q15
]
;B[bm]C[ZT1LB [3d\]: he?
quicksand [1k\]: how does w want to end this ko? connecting at r16 is not great
]
;W[qc]C[TonyTiger [3d\]: white got more threats there now..
gryn [1k?\]: white wants to play s18 i guess
wychess [9k\]: another go then?
sameasyou [2d\]: but now w has so many ko threats
MrSandman [4k\]: e10
Excalibor [-\]: cause q15blocks, right?
]
;B[rb]C[Sleeptryn [4d\]: mmm white still has large threats on G9 group
Sleeptryn [4d\]: oh well
]
;W[oe]C[SunnyD [2d\]: S18 submissive
]
;B[ne]C[gryn [1k?\]: why not q15 before s18?
]
;W[of]C[Repacse [5k?\]: but very solid
]
;B[qh]C[quicksand [1k\]: w building useless thickness
splashy: who is go world champion?
Repacse [5k?\]: shusaku :-)
SunnyD [2d\]: thickness not important when you won submission 
R6 [1k\]: Hikaru no Go
]
;W[nf]C[GordThomas [8k\]: go seigen!
]
;B[me]C[ttonndaa [1d\]: egtv do you see any czech guys playing?
splashy: i mean currently
GordThomas [8k\]: cho u
saruna [3k\]: Hikaru
bootstrap [5d?\]: KGS 5d!  If I can play one more move every game
SunnyD [2d\]: SimpleBot strongest!!!!!!!!!!!11
]
;W[hp]C[Excalibor [-\]: seems w is gaining some space on the center?
gryn [1k?\]: black just wants to white to make him have to play g14
bootstrap [5d?\]: P2
splashy: cause i am wondering which country has the strongest go player
baned4life: Choi Cheolhan has 88 percent wins....he may be the strongest
R6 [1k\]: Bhutan
]
;B[mf]C[minismurf [-\]: thick
baned4life: Lee Sedol only 63 percent wins
minismurf [-\]: should learn from Catalin's tenukis
bootstrap [5d?\]: "Whos is the strongest go player at this minute" is not an intelligent question
ZT1LB [3d\]: i have a kgs account with 100 percent wins
ZT1LB [3d\]: i am the strongest
]
;W[mh]C[baned4life: fake 3 dan
SunnyD [2d\]: ZT, don't introduce logic in the kibitz
Repacse [5k?\]: j9 needs a bit help
Excalibor [-\]: i win all my matches against 50k players, so i am a good candidate for strongest player :-)
Nayel [5k\]: how many time left ?
ZT1LB [3d\]: sorry :\\
]
;B[li]C[wychess [9k\]: many many
gryn [1k?\]: i think cornel has a problem
ZT1LB [3d\]: loly
bootstrap [5d?\]: W is cornel?
Excalibor [-\]: who's cornel?
gryn [1k?\]: he has been standing up for the past 7 minutes thinking of a move
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: cornell is on board 4
gryn [1k?\]: the one at the end of the table standing up in black
Excalibor [-\]: the guy with green/brown t-shirt?
gryn [1k?\]: er yeah maybe green
Bayle [?\]: why isn't black saving the f12 group?
Excalibor [-\]: ah
SunnyD [2d\]: cornel used to have a pic of his son in his profile
saruna [3k\]: 2 bad its a daugther
Aberrance [9k\]: daughter you mean
saruna [3k\]: but what the heck
Excalibor [-\]: in the last table, against the woman?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: since if white G-14, black j-14, then j-12
gryn [1k?\]: yes
saruna [3k\]: Im all for gender equality
ZT1LB [3d\]: i wonder if anyone ever tryes to psych their opponents out with body language
solamia [7k?\]: live link info?
Aberrance [9k\]: he has an alt with the picture of his daughter still
ZT1LB [3d\]: putting head really low turned sideways the whole game
gryn [1k?\]: saru, surgical or culturally.
Bayle [?\]: and if white f11?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live
Excalibor [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
solamia [7k?\]: thanks, eorogo
gryn [1k?\]: oh my he just made an interesting "move"
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Excalibur's link is more precise
Repacse [5k?\]: probably a kikashi to help j9 
bootstrap [5d?\]: w o2 or b p2 is huge
ZT1LB [3d\]: genders are not equal.  you can treat members of them equally though.  
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
Excalibor [-\]: pity of low bandwidth but, hey, who's to protest :-)
bootstrap [5d?\]: seems b can settle center group, by threatening
Sleeptryn [4d\]: well the only pro player in Aus is a girl :)
opabinia [3k?\]: Aus? Austria?
bootstrap [5d?\]: how about L11?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: Australia
opabinia [3k?\]: There is a pro in Australia? What is her name?
Repacse [5k?\]: also there is still the aji of g14 
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;W[pj]C[Sleeptryn [4d\]: Joanne Missingham
opabinia [3k?\]: Thanks for the info.
bootstrap [5d?\]: this move is strange, looks silly
opabinia [3k?\]: I hope she finds it.
splashy: is she hot?
ZT1LB [3d\]: thats a lol last name
]
;B[pk]C[Sleeptryn [4d\]: turned 1p like last year, age 15 I think
]
;W[ph]C[tildebis [?\]: Q10 to prepare S12
opabinia [3k?\]: Pedophile...
]
;B[oj]C[ZT1LB [3d\]: honorary or regular
]
;W[mi]C[danigabi [5d\]: she won it, but she studied go in china
Sleeptryn [4d\]: actually got in through exams with the Chinese Go Federation
danigabi [5d\]: so counting it as australian pro has bad smell :)
Sleeptryn [4d\]: so should be stronger than Nihon-kin 1p
]
;B[or]C[Excalibor [-\]: there
bootstrap [5d?\]: This is way too huge
Excalibor [-\]: p2
bootstrap [5d?\]: b is cruising now
opabinia [3k?\]: She was amateur 1 dan at 8. ^^
Repacse [5k?\]: cruise control is a go term ?
bootstrap [5d?\]: w managed to get gote, compressed, and let b get M11, a thick wall, all for free
Excalibor [-\]: Catalin's body language is very explicit
Sleeptryn [4d\]: I got to amateur 1d at age 10, then stopped playing :(
bootstrap [5d?\]: relaxed?
Excalibor [-\]: yes
Excalibor [-\]: and confident
]
;W[pr]
;B[nr]C[gryn [1k?\]: i think we need a dress code at all tournaments :)
]
;W[qr]C[bootstrap [5d?\]: must be a young girl
bootstrap [5d?\]: Now I feel I amseeing my 15 years old daughter:-)
gryn [1k?\]: everyone here would look much better in pink tuxs.
Excalibor [-\]: w got the corner  ??
Repacse [5k?\]: k6 ?
opabinia [3k?\]: She currently resides in California.
]
;B[fp]C[bootstrap [5d?\]: w has 30-35, b i sleadig by 20
]
;W[jq]
;B[kq]C[Sleeptryn [4d\]: did she move to China for go training?
kakineko [9k\]: W in danger of being cut...
Sleeptryn [4d\]: I heard she currently plays for the Tian Jing team in China
bootstrap [5d?\]: Q10, K3, are not exepcted in a game at this caliber
gryn [1k?\]: yeah 35 if there is komi
bootstrap [5d?\]: Tianjin?
Excalibor [-\]: 6.5 komi according to the rules
Sleeptryn [4d\]: yeah, its a city in China
bootstrap [5d?\]: My home town
Shira [13k?\]: Not expected? As in they're too weak?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: but she can't enter most of the Chinese tournaments since they're open only to Chinese Citizens
bootstrap [5d?\]: FOr waht level team?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: City Level
bootstrap [5d?\]: It is a 10 million population city
gryn [1k?\]: black has at least 40.
Shira [13k?\]: Or just things that are taken for granted at that level?
Excalibor [-\]: w is worried now, his face's pretty explicit
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;W[iq]C[bootstrap [5d?\]: HAs amybe 50+ players stronger than this level
Repacse [5k?\]: m5 
Sleeptryn [4d\]: so it actually sucks being a pro, since she can't enter the amnateur comps now either I think :)
bootstrap [5d?\]: But most of them are male
baned4life: j3 is a 5 dan move?
solamia [7k?\]:  careful what you wish for
]
;B[kp]C[Excalibor [-\]: i thought pros can't play amateur competitions in their countries, not everywhere else ?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: I think the oens liek world Ama championships
Sleeptryn [4d\]: bans pros as well
greenrat [5k\]: not true
Sleeptryn [4d\]: no?
bootstrap [5d?\]: Pro vs ama gap is pretty much man-made barrier in GO
Sleeptryn [4d\]: You can enter Japs World Amateur Champions as pro?
bootstrap [5d?\]: should be like tennis or golf or chess, 
Sleeptryn [4d\]: I don't thinks so...
bootstrap [5d?\]: the stonger ones play in whatever tournaments
Procabiak [15k?\]: hm
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;W[gn]C[baned4life: augilar is only 6 dan but has beat 2 pro players in a row
Shira [13k?\]: No, bootstrap, pros can't play in amateur golf tournaments. Most pro tournaments do let in a limited number of amateurs though
Sleeptryn [4d\]: then other countries have no chance in world amateur champs :)
bootstrap [5d?\]: THis is a very hard and serious question
opabinia [3k?\]: I don't think a pro playing in professional circuits would play in an amateur tournameny.
greenrat [5k\]: in world ama champ don't play pro because is explicit for ama
]
;B[gq]C[bootstrap [5d?\]: I play golf
gryn [1k?\]: e6 can cut?
Woodstock [2d\]: "only 6-dan" is a nice description
]
;W[hl]C[bootstrap [5d?\]: I talked to pros
Onmyoji [2d\]: :O
bootstrap [5d?\]: all you need is to register as a pro
Sleeptryn [4d\]: but Joanna Missingham Represented Aus in the Mind SPort Games
Excalibor [-\]: yes, only 6d :-)
bootstrap [5d?\]: with certian performece
Sleeptryn [4d\]: I think she got to top 8
gryn [1k?\]: hey hey hey how about this game?
bootstrap [5d?\]: the pars can't,
bootstrap [5d?\]: not Dans
bootstrap [5d?\]: count
]
;B[gj]C[Sleeptryn [4d\]: this game errr
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry
Sleeptryn [4d\]: white must kill black
Sleeptryn [4d\]: or lose
SunnyD [2d\]: G10 pro move!!
]
;W[hk]
;B[hj]C[baned4life: haha black dieing
]
;W[ij]C[gryn [1k?\]: looks like cornel won
opabinia [3k?\]: There have been 62 pro moves tis game.
baned4life: slam
opabinia [3k?\]: Cool, congrats Cornel.
Sleeptryn [4d\]: G-7
SunnyD [2d\]: G10 ninja move!!
bootstrap [5d?\]: w's last thrust
opabinia [3k?\]: I'm surprised the Pop game ended so quickly.
Sleeptryn [4d\]: pro go is a bti weird tho, given than only 3 countries can grant pro status
Excalibor [-\]: 4?
sheery [?\]: Taiwan as well, no?
imrusty [3k?\]: yeah well, just go to that country and become a pro then
imrusty [3k?\]: Dx
Repacse [5k?\]: japan too
baned4life: black resigns :-0
bootstrap [5d?\]: "pro" in go means very different from all other competitions, sports, or whatever
SenseiAnn [-\]: black's pretty much dead if it makes one wrong move
knottycow [2d\]: if i say i can grant u pro status, would u pay for it?
imrusty [3k?\]: hell no
Sleeptryn [4d\]: haha
heresy [12k\]: g 14
baned4life: taiwan you can buy a pro certificate
Sleeptryn [4d\]: but the pro levels are qurie differen tnow between countries
imrusty [3k?\]: i'll be the same player with pro status or not
bootstrap [5d?\]: It means very little in global go competition
gryn [1k?\]: you can pay for dan certificates in most countries, but they are all amatuer certificates
bootstrap [5d?\]: it is a market protection solution within Korea, Japan or China
knottycow [2d\]: there is a chance that kitty is dead this time
Sleeptryn [4d\]: Jap Pros much weaker than China/Korea pros
opabinia [3k?\]: Kitty?
knottycow [2d\]: cat
solamia [7k?\]: much? weaker?
sheery [?\]: on average ...
imrusty [3k?\]: hearsay
SunnyD [2d\]: CATalin's nickname
TeHokioi [11k\]: Anybody coming to the brussels tournament at the end of this month btw,
danigabi [5d\]: guys please take this this discussion to www.badukprorankdiscussion.com please
bootstrap [5d?\]: I don't know the much weaker comment
v5 [3k\]: video very laggy.... same fore you?
bootstrap [5d?\]: it is all environment
gosper [7k\]: j12
tynogo [18k\]: china
opabinia [3k?\]: Please take conversation /dev/null
markpi [5k?\]: my video was a standalone pic
tynogo [18k\]: yes
v5 [3k\]: yeah, mine too
imrusty [3k?\]: i want to see b pull out of this
bootstrap [5d?\]: So H11 or J11?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: H-7
tynogo [18k\]: hello???
quicksand [1k\]: doesn't look dangerous for b, he has the g14 aji
bootstrap [5d?\]: or G14?
imrusty [3k?\]: j11
minismurf [-\]: nice play here, b dangerous
imrusty [3k?\]: seem better
tynogo [18k\]: wha?
danigabi [5d\]: yeah w has a chance here
danigabi [5d\]: w very thick around
tynogo [18k\]: can anyone hear me???
bootstrap [5d?\]: w 's last chance
lowlands: silence tynogo
bootstrap [5d?\]: I would G14
gryn [1k?\]: told you that black was *making* white make black g14 eventually
imrusty [3k?\]: i think w will get a piece of the group
tynogo [18k\]: lol
danigabi [5d\]: black doesnt have many liberties neither
tynogo [18k\]: ingaqnrgandmfipvg
tynogo [18k\]: goiurfvhabujbvrgljvnfr
tynogo [18k\]: abgmnekjnbadlknvm
Uberdude [5d?\]: g3 was odd
opabinia [3k?\]: Tynogo: Stop.
kar1 [?\]: what is black's body language now?
tynogo [18k\]: ok
ibd [6k?\]: HAMMER TIME
bootstrap [5d?\]: G3 aims at E6
tildebis [?\]: H7
tynogo [18k\]: my sis was typing for me
Sleeptryn [4d\]: H7
v5 [3k\]: if i press "reload" i get a new picture
tynogo [18k\]: shes 6
Excalibor [-\]: hard to tell from the streaming, it's a bit frozen
opabinia [3k?\]: v5: It is a slideshow not video.
kakineko [9k\]: good cut.
splashy: j11 looks natural
Sleeptryn [4d\]: h7
knottycow [2d\]: i read a ko
greenrat [5k\]: for me is just a picture
v5 [3k\]: now, funny guy in background
gryn [1k?\]: so the madam playing cornel was from germany?
sameasyou [2d\]: Romania
Sleeptryn [4d\]: I read H7, black gets out :S
mamutik [1d\]: romanian
bootstrap [5d?\]: G14 first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wychess [9k\]: black player just froze in fear !
opabinia [3k?\]: isn't this another Romanian team?
edowaado [3k\]: can i get the link plz to watch this game : o
kakineko [9k\]: G3 probably the issue :/
bootstrap [5d?\]: Maybe too much relaxation for the little girl:-)
edowaado [3k\]: yay romania long live my home country >3~
imrusty [3k?\]: this is a pretty long minute
imrusty [3k?\]: should b play already?
bootstrap [5d?\]: G14 does lose some points though
imrusty [3k?\]: or did they stop the game?
Repacse [5k?\]: j8 first ?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: So other countries didn't send their strong go players to this tourney?
gryn [1k?\]: So Cornel is Romania-2 then?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: Russia got two pros...
bootstrap [5d?\]: my amateur player thinking
opabinia [3k?\]: Yes, they stopped game -- rain delay.
mamutik [1d\]: yes
Sleeptryn [4d\]: if they formed a team, they'd be quite damaging
sameasyou [2d\]: Cornel is also Romania 1
gryn [1k?\]: lol
SunnyD [2d\]: why is W covering his ears
Denniskutl [2d\]: i think b will give up that group
Kirigo: h7 ?
guta [3d\]: Serbia vs Slovakia 4:0
ickypoo [4k\]: time?
Excalibor [-\]: ok, Catalin seems to be worried now
mamutik [1d\]: osrry
sameasyou [2d\]: Taranu, Pop, Bajenaru and Burzo are Romania 1
Sleeptryn [4d\]: and I'm sure Germany got plenty of stronger players
mamutik [1d\]: conrel is romania 1
baned4life: black looks dead but then white could lose his group on the right
opabinia [3k?\]: They need to send out a crew to repaint the intersections.
kar1 [?\]: SunnyD, probably counting
bootstrap [5d?\]: Is J8 possible?
Sonica [1k\]: cornel romanian 4
Excalibor [-\]: for black?
gryn [1k?\]: omg no one knows do they
bootstrap [5d?\]: J8 then J11, L11, then G14
greenrat [5k\]: cornel is rpmania1 team table 4
SunnyD [2d\]: what's with red shirts in the background
opabinia [3k?\]: No one knows what, gryn?
edowaado [3k\]: catalin got him with his claws : 3
Sleeptryn [4d\]: mmmm, anyone going to the Thai U Go Competitions here?
gryn [1k?\]: and this is the 4th round then?
opabinia [3k?\]: It is camouflage, Sunny.
opabinia [3k?\]: Yes.
gryn [1k?\]: opa, which position cornel was
bootstrap [5d?\]: HEY, what is the URL for the video?
opabinia [3k?\]: 4th board.
DanceNGo [4k\]: who's winning :)?
Excalibor [-\]: bootstrap
bootstrap [5d?\]: pls pls pls
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live
Excalibor [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
bootstrap [5d?\]: thanksQ
dlrm [11k\]: sorry for a maybe stupid question but how does a team event look like in GO , it's the first I'm watching, I expect this is not rengo, do they two player play together on one board ?
gryn [1k?\]: that means cornel will likely win the tournament?
opabinia [3k?\]: This is a team competition, gryn.
Sleeptryn [4d\]: that's pair go
minismurf [-\]: 4 different games, only showing first one
opabinia [3k?\]: Catalin and Burzo are on same team.
baned4life: black was winning until this mishap
opabinia [3k?\]: and yes, their team is undefeated so far.
Sleeptryn [4d\]: so how it it work is they have 2 wins 2 loss?
bootstrap [5d?\]: oops, I need an account...
opabinia [3k?\]: That is jigo.
Sleeptryn [4d\]: the team whose first board wins wins right?
sameasyou [2d\]: no
sameasyou [2d\]: it's equal
opabinia [3k?\]: No, 2:2 is jigo.
Sleeptryn [4d\]: ah
sameasyou [2d\]: yup
Sleeptryn [4d\]: in our next tourney here in SG, we play that is it 2-2,, victory depends on first board :S
opabinia [3k?\]: Ahh, well, they have jigos for 2:2 in this tourney.
SunnyD [2d\]: what is SG??!?!?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: Singapore
knottycow [2d\]: when w played g11, he already thot of the cut :)
gryn [1k?\]: sleep what if it's 1-1 with the first and second boards both jigo? :)
Onmyoji [2d\]: why isnt b playing?
DanceNGo [4k\]: deep thought
Excalibor [-\]: w is expectant
splashy: w + res
opabinia [3k?\]: Then who won the third board, I bet, grun.
wychess [9k\]: he is frozen, just look at the video
opabinia [3k?\]: Onmyoji | There is a rain delay.
Excalibor [-\]: his face is like 'if this doesn't work out, i'll resign' or something like that
SunnyD [2d\]: is this a rated game?
baned4life: He is reading everything out I imagine.....hate it when the overplay blows up in your face
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
Thew [1k\]: what ruleset are they using?
knottycow [2d\]: catatonic catalin
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: japanese
Sleeptryn [4d\]: black not playing this game like pro I dun think, In go schools, you can trashed by coaches if you make a winning game complex
DrDrakken [1k\]: nah, his face says after escaping here I'm gonna kill this and that ... and that...
Excalibor [-\]: third match finished as well?
ickypoo [4k\]: Time left??????????
Shira [13k?\]: How much time is left? Hasn't black used a good ten minutes on just this one move now?
ttonndaa [1d\]: any czech news? :)
DrDrakken [1k\]: icky, one ? is more than sufficient
gryn [1k?\]: the room they are playing in seems quite pleasant, except for the low bandwidth :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B 15 minutes W 1x30 secons
Excalibor [-\]: yes
Excalibor [-\]: third match finished
gryn [1k?\]: oh i see white is in overtime?
gryn [1k?\]: then he has a chance
gryn [1k?\]: (black)
opabinia [3k?\]: who is the pretty lady behind Catalin?
baned4life: guo juan would kick him out of her go school for playing like this
Onmyoji [2d\]: lol
DanceNGo [4k\]: catalin is in her go school?
DanceNGo [4k\]: what?
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;B[jk]
;W[jj]C[DanceNGo [4k\]: o_
DanceNGo [4k\]: OHmg
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;B[hi]C[ttonndaa [1d\]: excalibor? and how did it finish?
DanceNGo [4k\]: lmafo
Sleeptryn [4d\]: woa
Excalibor [-\]: ttondaa, dunno, i missed the counting
Javaness [2d\]: catalin reads better than the kibitzeres
bootstrap [5d?\]: hmm
bootstrap [5d?\]: G14 or not?
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;W[ih]C[Excalibor [-\]: well, he was reading for a long time :-)
Sleeptryn [4d\]: white playign awefully fast
bootstrap [5d?\]: this won't work
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;B[ii]C[ickypoo [4k\]: thank you EuroGoTV1
]
;W[kj]C[Sleeptryn [4d\]: for such an important position
Javaness [2d\]: sure it works
Sleeptryn [4d\]: did he anticipate all these moves?
gryn [1k?\]: h7?
sameasyou [2d\]: of course he did
splashy: h7 now
Shira [13k?\]: Given how long black too, white could have read all those things and been ready to move immediately.
DanceNGo [4k\]: I signed up for EuroGoTV website... waiting for the email -___-
baned4life: well he is only a human player
Excalibor [-\]: that's what i fear, no way i will be able to do that ever
tynogo [18k\]: i havent gotten the email
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: mail is there in 1 second
sameasyou [2d\]: maybe k9 overplay?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: check your unwanted box 
Excalibor [-\]: white is in byo-yomi?
SunnyD [2d\]: no mail delivery on weekend
gryn [1k?\]: yes white is in byo yomi
Thew [1k\]: k12.
gryn [1k?\]: sunny mail delivers on saturdays in the usa :)
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;B[kk]C[Sleeptryn [4d\]: M9
Sleeptryn [4d\]: wait dun work
Sleeptryn [4d\]: mmm
opabinia [3k?\]: Unless it is Sunday.
Sleeptryn [4d\]: black escapes?
Bruno [1d\]: m 9
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;W[lk]C[opabinia [3k?\]: Dun?
DanceNGo [4k\]: wow, it ended up in my Spam box for some reason
DanceNGo [4k\]: strange.
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;B[ji]C[sameasyou [2d\]: m8
sameasyou [2d\]: ah
Sleeptryn [4d\]: wow
Sleeptryn [4d\]: getting huge feelign of dejavu
Bruno [1d\]: m 12
baned4life: was aiming at h7
Sleeptryn [4d\]: watching this part of game
sameasyou [2d\]: h7 next for b?
splashy: w must be very carefule here
Bruno [1d\]: M 12
DanceNGo [4k\]: hope catalin wins :S
Bruno [1d\]: is careful
sameasyou [2d\]: e6 valid cut afterwards
suechan [5d\]: h7 and e6
wychess [9k\]: yes carefule needed here!
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;W[lj]C[quicksand [1k\]: j13 looks interesting for b
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;B[hm]
;W[gm]
;B[gl]
;W[il]
;B[hn]
;W[kl]C[Thew [1k\]: how could he have let this happen =/
Bruno [1d\]: RIP
heresy [12k\]: what!
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;B[go]C[sameasyou [2d\]: k7 and e6 next
Bruno [1d\]: b 10 RIP
Sleeptryn [4d\]: blac can take 3 stonez...
baned4life: haha so sad
Sleeptryn [4d\]: enough?
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;W[en]
;B[jm]C[Bruno [1d\]: f 11
SunnyD [2d\]: trade!?!?
Pingu007 [3d\]: why b didnt e6?
wychess [9k\]: f11 doesnt cut!!
Thew [1k\]: g14 something?
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;W[jl]C[witch [1d\]: why not l13 for b ?
suechan [5d\]: l13 w res
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;B[jh]C[Bruno [1d\]: L 13
greenrat [5k\]: no trade
sameasyou [2d\]: l13
sameasyou [2d\]: fight or die
Fredrik [6d\]: l13 m13
Fredrik [6d\]: b connects
greenrat [5k\]: y
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;W[bc]C[Repacse [5k?\]: h4 died in the proces
greenrat [5k\]: b connects
long1331 [5k\]: L13
DanceNGo [4k\]: timesuji?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: err
Oogway [2k\]: timesuji?
DanceNGo [4k\]: Lol
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;B[bb]C[Fredrik [6d\]: noway to cut
Thew [1k\]: of course
Sleeptryn [4d\]: eh I coulda just J-13
Sleeptryn [4d\]: as black
sameasyou [2d\]: l12 after m13
Bruno [1d\]: bioyomi that is why B 18
sameasyou [2d\]: w has to cut
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;W[ad]C[Sleeptryn [4d\]: I mean H12
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;B[ac]C[tynogo [18k\]: black winning?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: how much per move?
TeHokioi [11k\]: what the hell?
DanceNGo [4k\]: LOL
Sleeptryn [4d\]: 30 seconds?
TeHokioi [11k\]: why did white force back there?
Shira [13k?\]: I think that's right, 30s
Sleeptryn [4d\]: time suji
Sleeptryn [4d\]: white needed time
Shira [13k?\]: Time shortage, perhaps?
opabinia [3k?\]: For time, Teho.
Thew [1k\]: who is the kid watching?
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;W[kg]C[TeHokioi [11k\]: Ah
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;B[jg]C[Sleeptryn [4d\]: black playign fast
splashy: b won 
sameasyou [2d\]: ah
Sleeptryn [4d\]: not giving white time tot hink
opabinia [3k?\]: It's called a timesuji in the popular parlance.
sameasyou [2d\]: b won indeed
Bruno [1d\]: b connect
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B+R
Onmyoji [2d\]: lol
sameasyou [2d\]: Lucian played a very nice game 
DanceNGo [4k\]: omg
tomason [1d\]: thanks eurogo for your effort
DanceNGo [4k\]: live tv is frozen for me t_t
Thew [1k\]: oh man XD
SunnyD [2d\]: THANKS!!!
Excalibor [-\]:  b kill that group?
Sleeptryn [4d\]: white tried has best
Denniskutl [2d\]: b looks out
Excalibor [-\]: apparently he can
baned4life: m10 was the losing move maybe
Bruno [1d\]: euro go want the TV rights
SunnyD [2d\]: time to pop the juice open to celebrate!!!
Javaness [2d\]: thanks harry
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: cu all tomorrow for the last round
zum [?\]: maybe Eurogo is playing against himself here
Bruno [1d\]: k
Excalibor [-\]: thanks to eurogotv for broadcasting this!
DanceNGo [4k\]: wait
DanceNGo [4k\]: W resigned already?
DanceNGo [4k\]: O_o
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
Sleeptryn [4d\]: yup
Excalibor [-\]: at the same time?
DanceNGo [4k\]: darn the live tv isnt workin t.t
DanceNGo [4k\]: couldnt tell
Sleeptryn [4d\]: with K3 sacrficed
Sleeptryn [4d\]: white had no chance
Sleeptryn [4d\]: if balck lived
SunnyD [2d\]: what time is it over there?
SunnyD [2d\]: local time?
DanceNGo [4k\]: here?
greenrat [5k\]: 7 51 pm
Excalibor [-\]: 6:51 pm CEST
opabinia [3k?\]: Isn't it 6:51?
greenrat [5k\]: romania is on east european time
Excalibor [-\]: romania is a bit further eastwards, so 1 hour more makes sens
Excalibor [-\]: e
greenrat [5k\]: gmt+2
opabinia [3k?\]: Oh, I didn't know that.
Excalibor [-\]: romania is gmt+3 atm
opabinia [3k?\]: Yes, because of summer.
Excalibor [-\]: cause the summer saving time
greenrat [5k\]: +2 man
SunnyD [2d\]: catalin showing how to kill now
Excalibor [-\]: well, it's been pretty weird and interesting game :-)
Shomino: awww
Shomino: Ramen is good
opabinia [3k?\]: Lots of drama.
SunnyD [2d\]: shomino, you ever tried ramen cooked in juice
Excalibor [-\]: time to leave, thanks to the kitbitzers who explained things up to us beginners :-)
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: So it is almost 8pm in Romania now
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: ?
Excalibor [-\]: yes, almost 8pm over there
SunnyD [2d\]: 7pm
Excalibor [-\]: it's 7pm in Spain
opabinia [3k?\]: 8.
Excalibor [-\]: has Romania switched to winter time already??
opabinia [3k?\]: No, I checked.
opabinia [3k?\]: So it is gmt+3.
Excalibor [-\]: i thought we all did it at the same time in Europe (except UK, of course :-P )
Excalibor [-\]: well, gotta go... thanks a lot!
tynogo [18k\]: cant his escape fail if white plays right
tynogo [18k\]: ???
tynogo [18k\]: nvm
tynogo [18k\]: white is trapped
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: not quite
tynogo [18k\]: g14 
tynogo [18k\]: right???
bikle [5k?\]: Is this game over ?
lowlands: yeah is this game over?
lowlands: hello?
Moin9 [5k\]: is it over?
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: still going
bikle [5k?\]: Has someone resigned here ?
Moin9 [5k\]: ok
bikle [5k?\]: Ok still going
lowlands: where the hell is my man eurogotv
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: Can't u see the intense fight in the middle ?
SunnyD [2d\]: dinner break
bikle [5k?\]: Yes here is an intense fight, but higer in this chat window EuroGoTV anounces B+R. It's probably another game
SunnyD [2d\]: bikle, why are you so cruel
tynogo [18k\]: euro go is offline
SunnyD [2d\]: and dash the hope of W
bikle [5k?\]: I'am cruel, how then ?
SunnyD [2d\]: fans of W still think there is hope for W
bikle [5k?\]: Oh for me white may win from the pro !
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: sorry guys,  B won already.
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