(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[9000]OT[1x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Go Congress 2010, Tampere, Finland]PW[Alexandre Dinerchtein]PB[Cornel Burzo]WR[3p]BR[6d]DT[2010-07-25]RO[1]PC[Tampere, Finland]US[HW9x9]C[LazyBuddha [?\]: wow
Moiraine7 [5k\]: wow it's breakfast
egogo [4k\]: breaky!
BigMac [4k\]: which one?
BigMac [4k\]: white?
Moiraine7 [5k\]: yes
justadjust [?\]: Oh how awesome. =)
sufferable: today is a big day for go
justadjust [?\]: I'm gonna be watching this all night UNTIL breakfast.
BigMac [4k\]: lol
NorthWind [5k\]: yippee, round 1
MaxMakinen [2k\]: cool, 2 interesting games to watch :)
Moiraine7 [5k\]: other one is ilya shikshin
justadjust [?\]: I'm only just getting back into Go after a long lapse - so this is pretty sweet.
lalicoasa [4k\]: bafta cornel!
hosainogo: da, da, hai burzocu'
FifaSKOR [2k\]: what time does the game commence?
NorthWind [5k\]: they are late, as usual :D
lalicoasa [4k\]: 15 min ago
lalicoasa [4k\]: :)
MaxMakinen [2k\]: probobly within 15-30minutes.. it should have started 15 minutes ago, but its round 1, so its usually a bit late
StefanRadu [1k\]: great game.
FifaSKOR [2k\]: oh o.o
FifaSKOR [2k\]: lol ok
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: make sure you have enough VIP-points to bet on the next move
nfj: is this telievised, i forgot the website
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
nfj: thx
StefanRadu [1k\]: salut mirel, ma bucur sa te vad aici. nu stiu precis daca noi doi am facut cunostinta vreodata, dar ne-am incrusisat privirile de cateva ori pe la concursuri. 
mihi [6d\]: GO CORNEL!
StefanRadu [1k\]: bine ai zis!
BigMac [4k\]: black=cornel?
StefanRadu [1k\]: Cornel vs. breakfast.
BigMac [4k\]: ah,cool
rmod [-\]: when does this start?
NorthWind [5k\]: oh, it's members only for the video :(
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: membership is free
NorthWind [5k\]: oh :)
StefanRadu [1k\]: no. you only the to be registered, and yeah, its freee
StefanRadu [1k\]: diner looks like hes having a bad morning.
StefanRadu [1k\]: bad breakfast maybe
StefanRadu [1k\]: only have to be registered* sorry.
Moiraine7 [5k\]: all these puns are making me lose my appetite for breakfast
Moiraine7 [5k\]: =_=
Dupaaxe [?\]: Hai Romanii :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: after move 1 you can bet by clicking on the field where you tink it will be played (on EuroGoTV)
BigMac [4k\]: lol
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: think
BigMac [4k\]: can i bet move one?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you need 1 VIP-point to make the bet
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: not move 1 but from move 2
StefanRadu [1k\]: euro, betting system on the web?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
BigMac [4k\]: board2 already started
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you can earn VIP-points by tagging photos on EuroGoTV in the Photo-menu
sufferable: gu li escaped with his group
rmod [-\]: why is the tournment time so long?
N4KED [1d\]: the feed is frozen on cam 2
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: oww..
N4KED [1d\]: oh nevermind
N4KED [1d\]: its working now
Dagobert [3d\]: where are the korean players this year?
Dagobert [3d\]: the broadcasted games are very european
StefanRadu [1k\]: go cornel!
scent [3k\]: who is btr?
scent [3k\]: when does it start
StefanRadu [1k\]: haha . i rarely see cornel with black. 
scent [3k\]: can i play 2?
scent [3k\]: howdo i watch this?
SuperBuddy [1d\]: is artem in this?
sufferable: ohoho looks like w still in trouble
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;B[pd]C[xiaoMao [1d?\]: Black won ^^
BigMac [4k\]: :D
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;W[dd]C[NorthWind [5k\]: yes I think artem is in the tournament
xiaoMao [1d?\]: lol
scent [3k\]: does blak need handicap?
thesubjoke [7k\]: EuroGOTV - Nice stream, no lag, loud and clear!
Eizero [4k\]: but too slow in putting the moves lol
StefanRadu [1k\]: yep. thats true. verry good stream.
xiaoMao [1d?\]: Is Aguilar on the contest?
thesubjoke [7k\]: Until it is very crowded on theboard, the stream alone will do as kifu :)
adhitthana [2d\]: GOOO Cornel
sufferable: aguilar was just playing on kgs
lalicoasa [4k\]: go MIB
adhitthana [2d\]: mib?
lalicoasa [4k\]: man in black
lalicoasa [4k\]: :P
WorldCop [2k\]: totally missing r4
sufferable: goooo w down with the amater
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;B[qp]C[Eizero [4k\]: hmm
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;W[np]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
scent [3k\]: did u know lebron has iq of 122?
WorldCop [2k\]: so, this betting thing is supposed to work? board is blank
scent [3k\]: that is higher than john kerry
BigMac [4k\]: who is john kerry?
RobertT [1k\]: rofl very loud and clear audio. I can even hear clicking :p
Gon00bs [7k?\]: that's lower than mine
scent [3k\]: my iq is 83
OHHDANG [7k\]: LOL
scent [3k\]: or least thats what my doctor said
RobertT [1k\]: thats.... bad
Gon00bs [7k?\]: mine is 140
lordik [9k?\]: scent: under 80 means you are stupid :-) so, dont worry
suiram [4k\]: it's even better, makes the person happier
scent [3k\]: she said i was borderline challenged
sufferable: gos supposed to be good for your brain tho
Eizero [4k\]: blue blue red red green ____
Eizero [4k\]: apparently the answer is green
sufferable: so keep working on it
scent [3k\]: thx lordik :-)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i worked 4 weeks on my betting system and nobody is using it.....:-(((((((((
sufferable: i dont realy think iq is important 
RobertT [1k\]: Doctor: well scent.... I dont know how to put this.... you see that broom? well.... it scored a 101.
WorldCop [2k\]: euro, the betting system isn't working
WorldCop [2k\]: the board is blank
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it is
hosainogo: Harry, who are Catalin & Popic playing with?
scent [3k\]: i wish to be as smart as lebron one day, he has 122
WorldCop [2k\]: well, not working with chrome then
Gon00bs [7k?\]: meh, IQ score tells you how much work you have to do
Gon00bs [7k?\]: how much work you actually do is a major factor
Gon00bs [7k?\]: thus, I'm useless
hosainogo: Harry ..............
Dupaaxe [?\]: true :)
Dupaaxe [?\]: IQ is just for show :)
Koukkaaja [3d\]: you will get ur iq to 122 if you just keep practising those stupid tests
Dupaaxe [?\]: I have 133 
lordik [9k?\]: IQ tells you nothing.... it is a useless number
Gon00bs [7k?\]: it's like your SAT score
Gon00bs [7k?\]: but people don't care much about your IQ
CJ23 [?\]: is this the cornell we all know and love?
Dupaaxe [?\]: Well :) if is under 80 is bad :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i dont know who ther are playing
RobertT [1k\]: he moved the stone! I saw him! :p
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and i checked, but the betting system works
LazyBuddha [2d?\]: 100 IQ means u're brain works fine for your age
sufferable: rank > iq
scent [3k\]: my doctor said there was this scientist named fineman who had "only" 125 iq... she hurt my feelings cause that is much higher than 83
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if not refresh the page
cwapface [5k\]: lol nice fan
Dupaaxe [?\]: 100 is normal
RobertT [1k\]: how do you bet?
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;B[dp]C[Gon00bs [7k?\]: scent, I know people who would say my IQ was "only" 140.
Gon00bs [7k?\]: they happen to be geniuses
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: click on the link beside the live TV feed
yakotaki [-\]: i have 40 iq :<
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and then on the field you think there will be played
Dupaaxe [?\]: wait a minute
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;W[qq]C[Dupaaxe [?\]: Iq grow with age
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Gon00bs [7k?\]: well, some of them do, but the ones that do really care about being smart
ThaElf [-\]: A range of 15 - 25 below and above are treated as normal, as there is no exact. Ones inteligence is not that easily gauged.
sufferable: gu li yuta game is so exciting
Gon00bs [7k?\]: the actually smart ones don't care about IQ
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;B[fc]C[RobertT [1k\]: I guess the next question is... how do you get vip points? :p
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: by tagging photos in the photo menu
cwapface [5k\]: b so bold
wingnoll [12k\]: that was awesome how he put that down
yakotaki [-\]: q4 !?
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;W[cf]C[cwapface [5k\]: r4 is like the alamo
faintvoice [1k\]: they think too much
neHb [5k?\]: драчка будет
shaula [1k\]: I hope black will win
faintvoice [1k\]: : драчка будет to u too
BigMac [4k\]: what does that mean?
SavagePlay [4k\]: hey
SavagePlay [4k\]: is that really breakfast and cornel on kgs?
xiaoMao [1d?\]: why on EGT I have no image?
StefanRadu [1k\]: i think b has equalls chances.
Dupaaxe [?\]: w start a little slow ?
scent [3k\]: on a scale of 1 to 10, how long will this game last ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: listen guys, i didnt sleep 3 nights last week just to finish the betting program and now nobody uses it....:-(
Moiraine7 [5k\]: @ scent: 11
Eizero [4k\]: huh
StefanRadu [1k\]: cornel is 7d on kgs. but.. hes not active anymore here.. yet he plays on igs at 9d.
Dupaaxe [?\]: 2 days :)
SavagePlay [4k\]: o
FifaSKOR [2k\]: my stream doesn't work lol
CJ23 [?\]: the guy on the left is sai?
xiaoMao [1d?\]: I have only the logo ..
SavagePlay [4k\]: but breakfast is already a pro in Korea
Dagobert [3d\]: you should have told them before that such an option exists .. i miss an eurogo-newsletter-mail
Academic [5k\]: is this at the ecg?
SavagePlay [4k\]: so can cornel win?
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;B[db]C[FifaSKOR [2k\]: it says off air
StefanRadu [1k\]: sure:)
scent [3k\]: cornel has first move advantage
scent [3k\]: but i think white has, im better than cornel advantage
scent [3k\]: plus komi
Lakanal [9k\]: ^^
N4KED [1d\]: black seems more active
SavagePlay [4k\]: ok...
faintvoice [1k\]: whats he reading?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: refresh FifaSKOR
cwapface [5k\]: is this really the time for a men's magazine
RobertT [1k\]: its a mini pocket size kogos joseki dictionary
Neverhood [3k\]: Cornel is reading a book! lol
StefanRadu [1k\]: hm. if hes 3p, that doesnt mean hes stronger:) .. dont be a fool and judge them by their rank. they are both strong. 
faintvoice [1k\]: is cornel the same as cornel cornel?
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;W[cc]C[NorthWind [5k\]: yes
FifaSKOR [2k\]: still off air xD
N4KED [1d\]: looks like go world
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;B[ic]C[pmq: 3p does mean he's stronger
RobertT [1k\]: either that or hes finishing up the last chapter of Hikaru No Go
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: anybody else problems with the stream?
Gon00bs [7k?\]: lol
faintvoice [1k\]: omg he keeps looking at the camera
N4KED [1d\]: its good for me
thesubjoke [7k\]: stream is alive and happy for me too
N4KED [1d\]: both are good
SavagePlay [4k\]: ok
StefanRadu [1k\]: yep. to mee too.
faintvoice [1k\]: um
NorthWind [5k\]: no, stream seems fine here
Neverhood [3k\]: stream lags off a bit
faintvoice [1k\]: can u do me a favor?
SavagePlay [4k\]: joseki now what?
wingnoll [12k\]: who's ahead?
SavagePlay [4k\]: no one right now
faintvoice [1k\]: can u do me a favor ?
pmq: one person is ahead
pmq: we don't know tho
kagome [11k\]: to bad the time does not work too
faintvoice [1k\]: ask breakfast if hes scared of losing
wingnoll [12k\]: why the black and white shirts?
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;W[pp]C[SavagePlay [4k\]: no
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;B[qo]C[StefanRadu [1k\]: pincer now?
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;W[po]C[N4KED [1d\]: pincer what?
Neverhood [3k\]: i'd rather not
N4KED [1d\]: there is nothing to pincer
somosdios [3k\]: do you have to register? I've watched videos before there without registering, but now it won't let me?
faintvoice [1k\]: cornels gonna lose
SavagePlay [4k\]: not really
Neverhood [3k\]: black failed on this joseki????
faintvoice [1k\]: he;s too nervous
SavagePlay [4k\]: too early to tell
bobstep [8k\]: last time I pinced her she slapped me
pmq: because now they can get people to register...... because they have european go congress
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
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;B[rq]
;W[qn]C[somosdios [3k\]: is there really betting on the next move, that's funny
FifaSKOR [2k\]: ahaha
FifaSKOR [2k\]: i agree
FifaSKOR [2k\]: =)
SavagePlay [4k\]: well
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;B[rn]C[pmq: isn't that gambling? 
SavagePlay [4k\]: don't bet on it
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;W[qm]C[Wisp [20k\]: with money?
somosdios [3k\]: yes
SavagePlay [4k\]: ur just gonna screw urself
pmq: gambling is bad
vladutiu: this is good for black sure
pmq: isn't it... my mom said so
BigMac [4k\]: ah..this is very bad for black
SavagePlay [4k\]: betting on go is not good, cause ur skill will suck forever
vladutiu: black better start
wingnoll [12k\]: which is higher rank 6d or 3p
SavagePlay [4k\]: u do that when u are real dan
SavagePlay [4k\]: 3p
FifaSKOR [2k\]: 3p
somosdios [3k\]: 3p
pmq: 3p
RobertT [1k\]: 6d
vladutiu: O4 is to close to white wall
FifaSKOR [2k\]: looool
StefanRadu [1k\]: if he gets to play extention the the lower side .. its not that bad.
Eilinen [-\]: 30 kyu
wingnoll [12k\]: 6 is more than 3
SavagePlay [4k\]: d is degree, and p is professional
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;B[rm]
;W[ql]C[RobertT [1k\]: depends. if your talking about korean 6d then 6d by far :p
pmq: d is dan
cwapface [5k\]: that's the bad guy from drunken master
pmq: who's the strongest player in european go congress
FifaSKOR [2k\]: lol
SavagePlay [4k\]: pmq is dan and degree is the same
scent [3k\]: i thot euro 6d not as strong as kgs 6d
SavagePlay [4k\]: go learn more about Japanese ranking before u argue
vladutiu: R2
pmq: they r not same 
wingnoll [12k\]: w looks smarter
wingnoll [12k\]: but b looks cooler
SavagePlay [4k\]: na
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;B[pq]C[SavagePlay [4k\]: black is screwed on bottom
vladutiu: oh
Dupaaxe [?\]: look I think that b take sente
BigMac [4k\]: white takes?
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;W[qr]
;B[rr]C[SuperBuddy [1d\]: mok jin seok strongest at egc
N4KED [1d\]: take what?
BigMac [4k\]: sente
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
vladutiu: this is for taking sente.......but lose a lot of points
wingnoll [12k\]: d is degree, not dan?
SavagePlay [4k\]: same
FifaSKOR [2k\]: same thing
FifaSKOR [2k\]: lol
faintvoice [1k\]: OMG
pmq: i know mr. mok he's much strong
SavagePlay [4k\]: european call it dan
faintvoice [1k\]: dude kgs has to copy the betting board
FifaSKOR [2k\]: do u know any martial arts?
SavagePlay [4k\]: but in america we call it degree
SavagePlay [4k\]: dude
FifaSKOR [2k\]: it's the same thing
faintvoice [1k\]: IT LOOKS SO PRETTY
SavagePlay [4k\]: Karate dan or degree
SavagePlay [4k\]: same thing
FifaSKOR [2k\]: black belt is dan/degree
FifaSKOR [2k\]: yes
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;W[pr]
;B[oq]C[BigMac [4k\]: hmm...?
miao [6d\]: lol
miao [6d\]: o.o
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;W[or]
;B[rl]C[gnikerid [6k\]: a pro versus an amateur?
Hernee [3d\]: captured
SavagePlay [4k\]: yes
sdsd: p3 is mistake?
vladutiu: black chose worst way
BigMac [4k\]: why dont white just do p3?
miao [6d\]: not sure
stf7 [1k\]: no
Hernee [3d\]: Nope, P3 leaves some aji
SavagePlay [4k\]: in elo rating
N4KED [1d\]: p3 not mistake
pmq: black is 6d... not 10k
pmq: he must have thought p3 is ok
vladutiu: P3 was a blunder for sure
stf7 [1k\]: XD
pmq: no because p3 later w may play o3
sdsd: thx
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;W[qk]C[pmq: p3 is not bluner k thx
BigMac [4k\]: f3
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;B[gq]C[SavagePlay [4k\]: 6d is 2600 points, and 3p is about 2800
BigMac [4k\]: ah g3
StefanRadu [1k\]: b gets the extension!
faintvoice [1k\]: tell me the betting board doesnt look pretty?????
gnikerid [6k\]: ah, thanks
miao [6d\]: 3p normally 2700
hotgo [6k\]: j3
SavagePlay [4k\]: uh.. miao
LuCha [7k\]: and 1d is how much elo ?
miao [6d\]: or a bit abovve
faintvoice [1k\]: so much easier to play on
SavagePlay [4k\]: that's 1p
miao [6d\]: no
wingnoll [12k\]: i suppose it's manditory to wear black and white shirts to a go game
SavagePlay [4k\]: or 7d
miao [6d\]: 1p= 3p
Hernee [3d\]: How much is 1d?
st21 [-\]: They play very fast
SavagePlay [4k\]: ... miao
vladutiu: white wall so strong now
miao [6d\]: :P
SavagePlay [4k\]: starting from 1p = 2700
SavagePlay [4k\]: they raise by 30
Hernee [3d\]: I'm 1d myself, so it would be nice to know
gnikerid [6k\]: so they are about evenly matched?
st21 [-\]: 3p can give 1p no komi handy
sufferable: gu li will resign
N4KED [1d\]: white wall is nothing
miao [6d\]: only because eurogodatabase says such a dumpshit it does´t has to be right
SavagePlay [4k\]: maybe
SavagePlay [4k\]: but still
miao [6d\]: sorry for the grammar and searing
miao [6d\]: swearing
wingnoll [12k\]: so 3d on here is 1d out there and same as 1p??
SavagePlay [4k\]: it's ok, they won't take it too serious
SavagePlay [4k\]: as long as it's reasonable and u know ur matter
pmq: this 3p takes 2 stones from korean 1p ok?
pmq: thx
NorthWind [5k\]: Cornel keeps looking at the camera :)
miao [6d\]: ^^
SavagePlay [4k\]: no
scent [3k\]: i love u miao
miao [6d\]: i know 3p stronger than most top players
SavagePlay [4k\]: cornel is amateur
st21 [-\]: say hello to Kgs
miao [6d\]: thx me too scent
st21 [-\]: Cornel
miao [6d\]: ;)
faintvoice [1k\]: miao+faint=<3
pmq: miao is strong
st21 [-\]: be strong kibitzer
wingnoll [12k\]: miao r u 3p?
pmq: who's stronger miao or cornel
miao [6d\]: almost
st21 [-\]: miai 9p
st21 [-\]: miao 9p!
faintvoice [1k\]: im closer psshh
deft [4d\]: I think Cornel sees Alexandre as a strong amateur, not as a pro...
miao [6d\]: me too
miao [6d\]: ^^
miao [6d\]: alex is not pro strengh
SavagePlay [4k\]: uh... miao is more like trained, while cornel is practical
hotgo [6k\]: n3 for b
wingnoll [12k\]: pro's wear sweaters
miao [6d\]: cornel should be stronger
pmq: alex is top 3 strongest white dude in the world
Dagobert [3d\]: there are atleast 100 amateur players in korea who are stronger than alex .. he said that himself
pmq: isn't he
SavagePlay [4k\]: uh...
miao [6d\]: but i am not far away from knoccking him out of his shoes
Neverhood [3k\]: where to play now???"??????????!!!!!
miao [6d\]: k3 maybe
hotgo [6k\]: j3
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;W[iq]C[miao [6d\]: uff
wingnoll [12k\]: ooo
pmq: who's stronger than mr. alex
wingnoll [12k\]: good call
miao [6d\]: w very agressive
faintvoice [1k\]: me
faintvoice [1k\]: duh pmq
miao [6d\]: i don´t like this too much
BigMac [4k\]: still i feel that extension is too narrow
scent [3k\]: how to extract an aji from p3??
Dupaaxe [?\]: w enjoy a gap :)
hotgo [6k\]: g5
LuCha [7k\]: well, is there other way to try to make use of his wall ?
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;B[ch]C[hotgo [6k\]: or c5
pmq: b is winning in points
Lakanal [9k\]: Isn't J3 a bit too far ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
faintvoice [1k\]: dude have you looked at the betting board?
faintvoice [1k\]: look at it !!!
wingnoll [12k\]: na
hotgo [6k\]: c18
faintvoice [1k\]: ITS SOOOO PRETTY
faintvoice [1k\]:  i wana play on it ><
scent [3k\]: can i watch tv too?
gocko: sure
scent [3k\]: it keeps on saying sorry u are not logged in
deft [4d\]: J3 is more concerned with invading the B shimari than to make territory on the side
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: then log in^^
pmq: what if i don't want to
pmq: baby..
BigMac [4k\]: black is winning...
hotgo [6k\]: why so long? c18
SavagePlay [4k\]: well
deft [4d\]: to me both J3 and K3 looked possible, but they have two different ideas
st21 [-\]: c18 not only move
SavagePlay [4k\]: i only know 2 white pro
hotgo [6k\]: bet?
pmq: still prob c18
pmq: just c18
scent [3k\]: how to extract an aji from p3?
hotgo [6k\]: if no c18 big trouble later
pmq: do it
BigMac [4k\]: c18 is too passive..
SavagePlay [4k\]: Svetlana Shikshina and Alexandre Dinerchtein
wingnoll [12k\]: faintvoice it's an igs board
st21 [-\]: e14 here not mistake too
BigMac [4k\]: and too slow
st21 [-\]: but c18 huge yose
BigMac [4k\]: rather e14
hotgo [6k\]: we cant forget n3 and l3
N4KED [1d\]: c18 is blacks right
BigMac [4k\]: or c13 is a last resort
NorthWind [5k\]: seems quiet. is it a large playing hall or a private room where these 2 play ?
StefanRadu [1k\]: b has a good position now.
deft [4d\]: it's normal for W to play C18 now
gocko: C18 a bit slow?
faintvoice [1k\]: Ws better
faintvoice [1k\]: wwwaaaaayyyyy betttter
shaula [1k\]: usually white prefers other moves than C18
N4KED [1d\]: white needs o17 but is it time for this move?
pmq: w has no pts
pmq: b will win
ihatelag [10k\]: well white's 3P, and black is only a 5d
ihatelag [10k\]: 6d
faintvoice [1k\]: look at that wall
etienne92 [12k\]: go go cornelllll ^^
faintvoice [1k\]: i want one of those
st21 [-\]: w c6
wingnoll [12k\]: what does that even mean
deft [4d\]: if W tenuki then c18 b18 b16 can be painful
ihatelag [10k\]: i have no clue
Neverhood [3k\]: dinerstein  played c6  and left
deft [4d\]: and C18 is a huge move anyway
]
;W[cn]C[N4KED [1d\]: a wall is lame though if you have nothing to attack
wingnoll [12k\]: lol
pmq: c4
StefanRadu [1k\]: hm... w has no points. but he has a wall.
faintvoice [1k\]: BUT ITS SO PRETTY
wingnoll [12k\]: attack the center duh
pmq: c9
deft [4d\]: this move is related to B taking tenuki from J3
ihatelag [10k\]: maybe white's just playing with black... 
Neverhood [3k\]: what
faintvoice [1k\]: b4 
ihatelag [10k\]: i doubt that a 3P will lose to a simple 6D right?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hehehe, 2 bets were made and both were wrong
faintvoice [1k\]: hes an honorary pro
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: big profit for me^^
st21 [-\]: Diner will win
wingnoll [12k\]: it'd be huuuge upset
Eizero [4k\]: the bets thing don't exist -.-
pmq: only 2 bets were made?
st21 [-\]: by 0.5-10 points
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: last move
deft [4d\]: you have to look at the players, not at the ranks, ihatelag
faintvoice [1k\]: i dont have points D:
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: tag photos
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: very easy
NorthWind [5k\]: c9 seems natural
wingnoll [12k\]: c8
st21 [-\]: c8 blood
shaula [1k\]: I try to bet, but it says that i need "vip-point" :-(
mihi [6d\]: So where can I bet?which board?
BigMac [4k\]: c8 
wingnoll [12k\]: what's that wand in his hand?
NorthWind [5k\]: c8 could get very complicated
tilom8x [10k\]: c8 is good run
st21 [-\]: lol :)
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;B[lq]C[faintvoice [1k\]: cornel is gonna lose
pmq: ok i'm logged in
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hahaa again 2 points for me
pmq: how do i bet
faintvoice [1k\]: on the pretty board mihi!!!!!!
faintvoice [1k\]: its soooo pretty <3
shaula [1k\]: EurogoTV, how do you get VIP-points?
Eizero [4k\]: how do you bet
Neverhood [3k\]: how to get initial poins, eurogo?
StefanRadu [1k\]: 10 shouldnt have the right to place comment here.. "i doubt that a 3P will lose to a simple 6D right? " what makes the 3p stronger when the rank is honorary pro? they both are strong. i put my bet on cornel:)  
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: by tagging photos on the Photo menu
faintvoice [1k\]: dude cornel already lost
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: in the photo menu
faintvoice [1k\]: look at him he;s too scared of the camera
st21 [-\]: here will be blood :)
sdsd: faintvoice you are not right
flaaz [7k\]: that's about: how to use the p3 stones aji :)
sdsd: the game is playing now
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;W[mr]C[RedEye [15k\]: how do you become an "honourary" pro?
faintvoice [1k\]: ur a guest u should be able to speak
N4KED [1d\]: m3 seems kinda crazy
fatihsulak [-\]: black trying to complicate the game... good tactic imo
N4KED [1d\]: unless its a probe
StefanRadu [1k\]: faintvoice is trying to be the funny guy today.:)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
]
;B[ip]C[wingnoll [12k\]: Stefan, part of the issue is that it is difficult to compare the strenghts of the players when one is in a pro system, and the other is in the degree system
yoyoma [1d\]: Anyone found the complete pairings posted?
st21 [-\]: this game too hard foe me :)
N4KED [1d\]: betting.....serious?
stf7 [1k\]: ohh,there are complete pairings posted somewhere?
NorthWind [5k\]: sounds of seagulls
stf7 [1k\]: someone has a link?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: can somebody explain others how the tagging works, i have no time for it
RoryDix [3k\]: need some coffee too ...
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
adhitthana [2d\]: let bet here
Mattpark [1d\]: there's no time limit? 
adhitthana [2d\]: I bet on K4
st21 [-\]: k4
Eizero [4k\]: oh so you were suppose to click that to bet...
Eizero [4k\]: not obvious
Maulwurf [-\]: right now, there seems to be no information AT ALL from the organizer's site, e.g. about the opening ceremony yesterday... no information at all.. ;-((  Luckily, EuroGoTV has some photos from yesterday, thanks a lot for that!!
sdsd: what has cornel in his hand?
Xodd [15k\]: who's playing?
gocko: fan in his hand
NorthWind [5k\]: a fan I think
RedEye [15k\]: how do you become an honorary pro?
Gon00bs [7k?\]: I think it's his fan
st21 [-\]: so you can just bet on move like "q16"
Gon00bs [7k?\]: because it's not on the table any more
shaula [1k\]: by luck RedEye
RedEye [15k\]: there's no luck in go
holynec [?\]: haro everybodyies
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes st21 by clicking on that point
Dupaaxe [?\]: it is :)
shaula [1k\]: Nihon Ki Hin and other organizations organize lottery, the winner gets an honorary pro title
RedEye [15k\]: so what do you have to win/do?
wingnoll [12k\]: p3 was aiming at m3
Xodd [15k\]: same cornel from that teaches here?
RedEye [15k\]: a lottery?
Dupaaxe [?\]: self atari  par ex. :)
somosdios [3k\]: cornel is looking happy all of a sudden
wingnoll [12k\]: u need VIP points
donutt [6k\]: it's awesome to see breakfast play and not have to pay for it
NorthWind [5k\]: yes Xodd
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;W[bp]C[Xodd [15k\]: ty
pmq: how do i bet
st21 [-\]: ^_^
shaula [1k\]: nothing awesome donutt
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: earn VIP-points by tagging photos in the Photo menu
A1R [4k\]: where can i find the players list?
RedEye [15k\]: thats crappy so you don't even have to win something to become an honorary pro
shaula [1k\]: you have to win the lottery
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: bet by clicking on the point on the betting board
RedEye [15k\]: yes but not hrough skill
st21 [-\]: progame very lottery
sufferable: what is a vip point?
RedEye [15k\]: just by entering the a prize draw
pmq: random rag?
fatihsulak [-\]: b4 seems good choice
RedEye [15k\]: can he play in pro tornaments and the like?
shaula [1k\]: yeah, it's sad Redeye, I know
thejurist [2k\]: so is this Zhuyeqing Tea any good?
RobertT [1k\]: no
pmq: i tagged a trophy and got 1 vip point
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
RedEye [15k\]: i take it back there is luck in go :-(
RobertT [1k\]: I taged someones hair and got 1 vip point
holynec [?\]: c9
scent [3k\]: cornel say, is that a stone on r9 or are u just happy to see me?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: please enter the players last name
NorthWind [5k\]: so euro, what's behind the screen ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: gold
NorthWind [5k\]: haha :P
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: for the one who wins te most bets
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no
pmq: i have 3 vip points
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;B[cm]C[donutt [6k\]: there are leprechauns guarding this gold, right?
N4KED [1d\]: you are turning us into your slaves
begood [6k\]: how much time do they have?
NorthWind [5k\]: enough
fatihsulak [-\]: b7 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: N4KED ^^ that was the idea yes^^
N4KED [1d\]:  :-0
BigMac [4k\]: d7
fatihsulak [-\]: or d7 c8 b6 
scent [3k\]: do u guys know how to access a private ip like 192.168.x.x from outside the private network?
scent [3k\]: or is that not possible
kagome [11k\]: is there some good t.v. show just off screen?
kagome [11k\]: why does he keep looking over?
pmq: why is that dude keep staring into the camera
scent [3k\]: say i know the ip of the router
RoryDix [3k\]: cornel seems kinda bored
elementc [5k?\]: I like the faces Cornel keeps making
NorthWind [5k\]: must be a girl over there :)
wingnoll [12k\]: scent u need to port forward on the router
pmq: now he's reading a magazine
StefanRadu [1k\]: yep.. hes reading a magazine...
wingnoll [12k\]: or setup ssh
N4KED [1d\]: I think it is cheating to use go world as an aid
Daidalos [10k?\]: scent: or set up a vpn
StefanRadu [1k\]: i guess dinner doesnt turn him on.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
scent [3k\]: im trying with ssh, i'll google port forward, and then vpn, accessing private ip address
donutt [6k\]: he is looking at the dessert
scent [3k\]: thx all!
pmq: he's flipping pages to distract his opponent
wingnoll [12k\]: yes
wingnoll [12k\]: he's in his head now
N4KED [1d\]: I would like to bet on the winner
pmq: how can i undo my betting
N4KED [1d\]: tag 3 more photos
wingnoll [12k\]: hmm, what's the time limit?
wingnoll [12k\]: can w save the corner
pmq: i mean, i didn't wager anything ...
Xrillo [3d?\]: cornel seems very tired.. ;)
wingnoll [12k\]: maybe w c9
N4KED [1d\]: oh I found the betting thing
N4KED [1d\]: thats pretty cool
N4KED [1d\]: nice job
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thx!!
faintvoice [1k\]: isnt the baord pretty?!!!
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;W[dn]
;B[dm]C[BigMac [4k\]: hmmmmmmmm..
pmq: i bet on b7
pmq: come on!!
masli [18k\]: W looks sooo bored
masli [18k\]: lol
pmq: can you only bet 1 vip point?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
StefanRadu [1k\]: c3 and k3 are so big.
fatihsulak [-\]: d6 locally very good for black
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but you can make more bets/move
StefanRadu [1k\]: if w c3 b k3?
fatihsulak [-\]: after d7, c18 very big too 
Murugandi [4d\]: this game is weird
scent [3k\]: weird thing is brk.b only trading at 14x earnings
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: by clicking on the last move below the betting board
]
;W[bm]
;B[bl]
;W[bn]C[pmq: how come my vip point didn't increase
]
;B[em]C[scent [3k\]: usually it is trading way higher, but i think that's cause brk had some 1-time profit off of derivatives or some such
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: because there were more then 50% winners
Murugandi [4d\]: this is good for w 
Pepijn [2d\]: hm what about D7 at B6 instead?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: bet only valid if more losers then winners
yoyoma [1d\]: O_O
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you got a refund
pmq: so basically you always win
pmq: no matter what
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: bet also only valid if made 30 seconds or more before player makes his move
pmq: you as in the system
Wisp [20k\]: so at least 3 ppl have to bet then?
Pepijn [2d\]: no 2 losers can bet as well
]
;W[dq]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, if 100 people bet and 99 are wrong and you are right you win 99 points
pmq: oh........
yoyoma [1d\]: This bet system is like a bank, too many exception.  :P
pmq: that's cool ok
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
]
;B[cq]C[NorthWind [5k\]: Alex looks a bit young to be 7 times Euro champion
Itch [25k?\]: looks can be deceiving
Koukkaaja [3d\]: 17 not so young
A1R [4k\]: EuroGoTV, are there the pairings already online?
masli [18k\]: he is just 17?!
rockl [3k\]: D
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i dont know, somebody was working on that but i have ni link
TomGo [1k?\]: he was 17...
A1R [4k\]: ok thx
Cassis0 [5d\]: dinerstein is all but 17 lol 
profan [6k?\]: is c3 unexpected?
NorthWind [5k\]: prob thirtysomething
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
wingnoll [12k\]: is c6 able to make life?
fatihsulak [-\]: c4 honte now but white probably consider e6
yoyoma [1d\]: someone go take iphone pic of pairings and put on flickr  :)
]
;W[cp]C[RoryDix [3k\]: c3 is looking at the atari e3 I guess
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol all 7 betters had it correct, nobody lost
Zahlman [1k\]: is this b's normal style? it seems more chaotic than usual somehow
NorthWind [5k\]: what does honte mean ?
atomix [1d\]: is there an results page?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: for the betting?
Pepijn [2d\]: honte is slow move
NorthWind [5k\]: ok thx
Grimalkin [2k\]: not it's not
Zahlman [1k\]: what value are the betting points, just bragging?
Grimalkin [2k\]: honte translates to something like "honest" or "proper"
Grimalkin [2k\]: but it's not exactly either of those
zc3k [1k\]: E3 only
fatihsulak [-\]: e3 d2 e4 c2 k3 c18
Grimalkin [2k\]: it's not necessarily slow
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, next month you can buy books and lessons from Cornel, Catalin, POp and Dinerchtein with them
JJJJJoey [4d\]: ^_^
maligo [-\]: where to bet?
]
;B[dr]
;W[eq]C[RoryDix [3k\]: how do I get vip points for betting? through donating?
]
;B[er]C[Itch [25k?\]: so who is teaching who in this game ?
Koukkaaja [3d\]: i think we are teaching the players
sufferable: not all game is teaching game
JJJJJoey [4d\]: *agree
N4KED [1d\]: you have to place tags in the photo section
N4KED [1d\]: but its real easy
RoryDix [3k\]: ah i see
Zahlman [1k\]: no, the only correct answer: the game of go is teaching all of us
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: for now you can only get VIP-points by tagging photos in the Photo menu, if the test works you can buy them later; VIP-members will get 100 points/month
scent [3k\]: what cpu is cornel running on?
sufferable: this game is play to win
guta [3d\]: how many players are in top McMahon bar
MaxMakinen [2k\]: it's usually 32, but pairings arent online yet for this round, so impossible to know
pmq: when i answer "no" when it asks if i want to bet a vip point, it takes too long before my move gets reset
]
;W[cr]
;B[fq]
;W[ep]
;B[jq]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: pmq, thats ruor connection
guta [3d\]: and,do you know some other parings
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: here it goes very fast
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: your connection
NorthWind [5k\]: tenuki
Murugandi [4d\]: Antti is black vs. Ilya
Murugandi [4d\]: board 1
]
;W[cb]
;B[bf]C[SuperBuddy [1d\]: i like b's game here i think
]
;W[be]
;B[qf]C[adhitthana [2d\]: you think you like it?
Cassis0 [5d\]: w can't complain 
pmq: i bet on p18
pmq: don't copy me
SuperBuddy [1d\]: yeah.. b good aji and growth potential
]
;W[pb]C[Xodd [15k\]: close
NorthWind [5k\]: close 1, cigar 0
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
pmq: dang it
pmq: p18 was definitely better
profan [6k?\]: why B played r14?
pmq: how many people betting
pmq: right now?
pmq: so i know how many pts i will get 
N4KED [1d\]: me
Optician [1k\]: but b was expecting p18 - this is now a surprise attack
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i can only see after the move is made
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: average of 3 bets/move
pmq: i need more bettors
Cassis0 [5d\]: guest leads kibitz
Pepijn [2d\]: O18
Murugandi [4d\]: Dinerstein should be told that his chair is to sit on
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Pepijn use the betting board for your bets
Pepijn [2d\]: I dont bet
madcow [1d\]: p17 
Pepijn [2d\]: it s against my religion
Kaizoku3 [2k\]: q17
madcow [1d\]: b wins big time
TomGo [1k?\]: I didnt know Diner owned jeans
RobertT [1k\]: o18
N4KED [1d\]: do I win?
N4KED [1d\]: cool
N4KED [1d\]: yipee
]
;B[oc]C[IASIGOCUP [-\]: go cornel !
]
;W[ob]
;B[nb]C[N4KED [1d\]: gained 2 points
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: very very good!
BigMac [4k\]: r16 ?
madcow [1d\]: i got that correct!!!!
ravel [5d?\]: o17 first
madcow [1d\]: n18 
NorthWind [5k\]: s17
maligo [-\]: with who is Dusan Mitic playing with?
madcow [1d\]: n18 required first
Fenix [?\]: cornel looks like he went to bed at 5 am or so^^
mihi [6d\]: Dusan not playing 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
pmq: u should return the pts to users if no one gets it right
madcow [1d\]: is cornel a professinoal?
RobertT [1k\]: no
mihi [6d\]: no,you shouldn't return 
un [2k\]: w+sleeping
]
;W[qd]C[BigMac [4k\]: aaaaah i should have bet'd
]
;B[qe]C[BigMac [4k\]: s16 
Pringle: how does one bet?
N4KED [1d\]: its off to the right of the live broadcast
lalicoasa [4k\]: .
batubiru [3k?\]: q17
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;W[nc]C[Pringle: ah, i see. thanks
pmq: i got o17 right but i didn't get any point...
NorthWind [5k\]: soon W has 3.5 corners
madcow [1d\]: o16 !
Murugandi [4d\]: my father used to say things about go
Murugandi [4d\]: but I forgot
madcow [1d\]: O16 is the Correct Move
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you were too late, you must make the bet 30 seconds before the player makes it
pmq: i did... definitely 30 sec before i thought
pmq: my user name is pmq
Pepijn [2d\]: or the player was too fast
Murugandi [4d\]: the stones are slow
Murugandi [4d\]: the players fast
Murugandi [4d\]: (haiku)
]
;B[nd]
;W[mc]C[NorthWind [5k\]: we'll get a message to him to slow down
]
;B[mb]C[madcow [1d\]: i got that correct again!!!
maciek [2d\]: i bet CORNEL win!
BigMac [4k\]: s16 is the only way......i see
batubiru [3k?\]: how about the record corner vs diner?
madcow [1d\]: m17 
BigMac [4k\]: white got 3.5 corners and about nothing else
madcow [1d\]: M17 is teh Correct Move
maciek [2d\]: corn on the dinner?
BigMac [4k\]: i guess black will win..
BigMac [4k\]: m17 maybe
BigMac [4k\]: but still white have to go s16 at last
goqc [4k\]: black in better shape...
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;W[md]
;B[lc]C[pmq: yay i got points
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 3 points profit for u
batubiru [3k?\]: big war
madcow [1d\]: w in bad shape now
BigMac [4k\]: isnt this ladder?
BigMac [4k\]: oh.white's turn
madcow [1d\]: i predict that B will Win
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
BigMac [4k\]: o15 maybe?
NorthWind [5k\]: I wouldn't bet against Alex; seen him before
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV stream still ok?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sound also?
Notsure [2d?\]: yepp
scent [3k\]: dont it seem like b doing btr??
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and on EuroGoTV2?
maligo [-\]: cornel looks strange
omega2004 [12k\]: can i have the link for the stream plz
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
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;W[ne]C[IASIGOCUP [-\]: eurogotv, catalin, popic, is there ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
IASIGOCUP [-\]: thx
omega2004 [12k\]: pfff it tells me my email adress is incorrect
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and i will be at IASI next month^^
omega2004 [12k\]: i hate it when that happens and pages are tooo picky about email adresses
R1D1 [18k\]: what tournament?
IASIGOCUP [-\]: yes
IASIGOCUP [-\]: you are welcome
thejurist [2k\]: does anybody know the score between the two players?
]
;B[ld]C[IASIGOCUP [-\]: and all players
harpo [?\]: aren't there any strong Koreans this year?
BigMac [4k\]: oh?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i am really looking forward to it
pmq: b is doing well
Murugandi [4d\]: go antti!
A1R [4k\]: on the egc, hapro?
A1R [4k\]: harpo*
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i am here allready and here is is great too
Optician [1k\]: not too much traffic noise ?
A1R [4k\]: on egc there are at least 3 strong korean ama player - i think.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no
Cassis0 [5d\]: n15 enough 
goqc [4k\]: is there sound Eurogotv?
harpo [?\]: thx A1R
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i hope so
goqc [4k\]: well for me no...
NorthWind [5k\]: q17 tempting
Mononaut [-\]: sound worked fine for me on the live feed
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: anybody else trouble with sound?
masli [18k\]: no
Optician [1k\]: I have sound - no problems
NorthWind [5k\]: me too, sound good
]
;W[od]
;B[pc]
;W[qc]
;B[pe]C[goqc [4k\]: oh no it's good
BigMac [4k\]: i dont see it
Notsure [2d?\]: can hear the stones^^
BigMac [4k\]: why would black play this way
MonkeyFool [15k\]: I have no sound, could someone explain how to get sound? thanks =)
]
;W[le]C[BigMac [4k\]: n14 
MaxMakinen [2k\]: thejurist, the score between alexander and cornel is 4-0 to alexander (according to european go database)
pmq: w is losing
Mononaut [-\]: takes so long for them to move though, I'd rather just listen to some bitchin' beats
]
;B[rb]
;W[qb]
;B[se]C[pmq: this is going to be a long game for w
Murugandi [4d\]: oh
Murugandi [4d\]: this is 
Murugandi [4d\]: very nice!
BigMac [4k\]: dead or what?
Pepijn [2d\]: it is standard
ShusakuSai [8k\]: maybe dead
zhou901108 [1d\]: what happend?
Optician [1k\]: dead
IASIGOCUP [-\]: t18?
Vovin [6k\]: s16 ko is going?
NorthWind [5k\]: r12
pmq: i wonder why w didn't cut first before r16
Cassis0 [5d\]: nice tsumego knowledge
StefanRadu [1k\]: cmon. cant be dead. it would be to good to true
fatihsulak [-\]: o19 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it is ko
StefanRadu [1k\]: L15 also verry big point.
kostuek [-\]: l18 do the same^^
fatihsulak [-\]: o19 m18 s16?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
]
;W[sb]C[IASIGOCUP [-\]: wow
karabos [1d?\]: hehe
IASIGOCUP [-\]: i have 5 kyu !
IASIGOCUP [-\]: nice for me
karabos [1d?\]: inetrestin
madcow [1d\]: w is DEAD
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no
goqc [4k\]: ko
zhou901108 [1d\]: ko
esidebob [-\]: just S16, huh?
batubiru [3k?\]: maybe t17 simplier to escape
deft [4d\]: S19
madcow [1d\]: t17 KILLs
noned [2d\]: is the pairing published?
BigMac [4k\]: s19 and everything is dead?
noned [2d\]: on thw web
weirdchess [2k\]: t17 and how is w not dead?
Xodd [15k\]: why dont they ever talk to eachother?
heirophany [14k\]: no w is not dead
deft [4d\]: maybe better S16 before S19
harpo [?\]: t17 s19
esidebob [-\]: S16 makes it hella simple
R1D1 [18k\]: isnt s17 just enough?
fatihsulak [-\]: s16 seems best
Larrave [1d\]: is this egc?
reprisal [4d?\]: please, stop thinking only of killing w
BigMac [4k\]: what more? killing black?
N4KED [1d\]: looks like seki
reprisal [4d?\]: yes
BigMac [4k\]: cant be seki..
reprisal [4d?\]: black dying is relevant as well
BigMac [4k\]: black isnt dying at all
pmq: is it seki?
pmq: looks ko to me
BigMac [4k\]: s16 s17 s19 
mibagent [2k\]: white is just dead
Murugandi [4d\]: s16 right?
Dupaaxe [?\]: preety far from seki
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;B[ra]C[madcow [1d\]: dead!
laketrout: boom
N4KED [1d\]: not dead
N4KED [1d\]: seki
BigMac [4k\]: how can it be seki
madcow [1d\]: as dead a a doornail
scent [3k\]: looks like seki to me
BigMac [4k\]: it end up as triangle or T4
Darg [3d\]: s16 too simple for cornel
twold [1k\]: T4? is that a new terminator model?
Larrave [1d\]: its seki
batubiru [3k?\]: s16 not elegan
reprisal [4d?\]: after s16 s17 t16 s15 r12 b shape is pretty ungainly
batubiru [3k?\]: for 6f
batubiru [3k?\]: 6d
Kayres [4k\]: who gets sente?
zhou901108 [1d\]: seems dead
madcow [1d\]: that's rite
st21 [-\]: locally
reprisal [4d?\]: err i forgot s19 in teh sequence
madcow [1d\]: IT"S DEAD
st21 [-\]: dead
mibagent [2k\]: white gets r12
N4KED [1d\]: hmm
BigMac [4k\]: straight dead
Bruno [1d\]: w die
N4KED [1d\]: okay white is dead
madcow [1d\]: we are a democracy
st21 [-\]: r15 not alive too
WorldCop [2k\]: is it time to panic?
zhou901108 [1d\]: r15 can run
karabos [1d?\]: so good for blak
madcow [1d\]: only chance is P19
atomix [1d\]: opinions from high dan players please?
notlogic [3k?\]: speaking of democracies...
Pepijn [2d\]: R15 is connected to O18
Bruno [1d\]: p 19?
deft [4d\]: the point is that if W answers in the corner now he's dead in gote .. and if he tries to make capturing race B has a more efficient move than S16
notlogic [3k?\]: What is the name used for go in Thailand?
Pepijn [2d\]: by killing corner
Bruno [1d\]: p 19
madcow [1d\]: should i login with my 9p account?
goqc [4k\]: what are the time left to both
reprisal [4d?\]: comment: this is not a good result for W :)
Murugandi [4d\]: silt
scent [3k\]: if s17 then p19 kill?
Bruno [1d\]: 134 minutes and 300 byo yomi 
scent [3k\]: p19 harsh in several variations
batubiru [3k?\]: R19
kostuek [-\]: t16
deft [4d\]: S17 is dead in gote
Cassis0 [5d\]: now probably something around j17
erkkierkki [6k\]: im over 9000k
reprisal [4d?\]: W s17 now is not dead in gote...
scent [3k\]: thx deft
fatihsulak [-\]: q12 
deft [4d\]: uh, no sorry, S17 then T16
zhou901108 [1d\]: i heard that pros should have be perfect at this kind o life an death problems
weirdchess [2k\]: s17 not dead in gote, it threatens t16 for 2 eyes
BigMac [4k\]: s17 is dead in sente?
Larrave [1d\]: t16 fails deft
deft [4d\]: yes S17 is dead in sente
deft [4d\]: how, Larrave
goqc [4k\]: What is the time to both??
st21 [-\]: t16 here
scent [3k\]: thx deft
Larrave [1d\]: p19
batubiru [3k?\]: h,
BigMac [4k\]: b+r already?
aditya [1k\]: a1
wolokom [5k\]: is seki possible?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
madcow [1d\]: i can't believe that these "high" dans can't get this josekiki corerct
BigMac [4k\]: omg, there is no seki at all
reprisal [4d?\]: but stop worrying about the corner and try to think back to the game
scent [3k\]: p19 what happens
Larrave [1d\]: s17 t16 p19 t17 r19
st21 [-\]: ofc possible
st21 [-\]: if b 3 pass
Bruno [1d\]: w t 17
N4KED [1d\]: what game if white dies?
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;W[rc]C[Bruno [1d\]: b 
laketrout: ...
BigMac [4k\]: why..?
aditya [1k\]: t16
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;B[sd]C[batubiru [3k?\]: semeai
madcow [1d\]: ko!
Larrave [1d\]: ah
BigMac [4k\]: how ko
madcow [1d\]: oh... no ko
aditya [1k\]: dead
SaveYou [2k\]: dead
GoVortex [6d\]: hai sa-l facem de cacao pe site
reprisal [4d?\]: b killing this corner is not nearly enough to end the game, i dont think
BigMac [4k\]: it is deadly deadly dead....
Cassis0 [5d\]: h17
karabos [1d?\]: this ll be interestin
A1R [4k\]: ouch for w
BigMac [4k\]: b+50..
Dupaaxe [?\]: Pe cine ? :)
Murugandi [4d\]: B + res
madcow [1d\]: let' me continue as b and i will make diner weep
N4KED [1d\]: Dinerchtien loses his position as champion!
Bruno [1d\]: yeah...b is good doing this winning
Mikki62 [2k\]: w locally dead
st21 [-\]: lol
st21 [-\]: why?
Q161 [?\]: ok im at the site but i dont see where betting on next move is
Bruno [1d\]: cornel is pro 
st21 [-\]: where r15 eye's?
Q161 [?\]: can anyone help?
ravel [5d?\]: I want to see k17
poirette [1d\]: w had a very good result in Q4 corner
madcow [1d\]: it's like brazil losing to spain
weirdchess [2k\]: r15 has plenty of room
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: richt from the live TV stream
Darg [3d\]: look at the upper right corner
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: right
mibagent [2k\]: R15 eyes ate in r18 area
pmq: before s17, what if w played s15..
Q161 [?\]: ok thx
blackstork [?\]: Killing the corner is huge, b must be 20+ ahead now imo
reprisal [4d?\]: not what i count
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;W[cl]C[BigMac [4k\]: white must resign....
tudor11 [2k\]: time
tudor11 [2k\]: ?
kdb: not nearly that far ahead
BigMac [4k\]: hmm
Notsure [2d?\]: so w has to play more aggressive now
madcow [1d\]: lol... dinner goes crazy and cuts cuts cuts
pmq: never mind
Zahlman [1k\]: ladder not working
Zahlman [1k\]: afaict
R1D1 [18k\]: shouldn't it be a huge difference between 3p and 6d?
Q161 [?\]: aw i have no pts to bet :(
Zahlman [1k\]: not really
fatihsulak [-\]: now the game will be messy
goqc [4k\]: no that much
pmq: this is going to be an upset??
weirdchess [2k\]: b wont ladder anyways, he doesnt want w to get a free ladder breaker
ravel [5d?\]: Diener is honorary 3p
kdb: euro 6d is about as strong as 1p
tudor11 [2k\]: time
Koukkaaja [3d\]: w died ur, b plays ladder and it's even again
zhou901108 [1d\]: pros shouldn't die from that shape
kill [-\]: psychological advantage for 6d
Dupaaxe [?\]: kiling is one but capture stone is diferent
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;B[mf]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Q161 start tagging photos in the photo menu
Bruno [1d\]: crazy
wolokom [5k\]: there are a lot of aji in the corner
]
;W[me]C[scent [3k\]: i thot p19 instead of s17 mit be seki
st21 [-\]: lets 3p vs 6d ladder
madcow [1d\]: difference is 3p is more likely to bluff with a bad and soem 6ds might belive
pmq: euro 6d is 3 stones from korean 1p
Bruno [1d\]: that is not a ladder breaker
]
;B[bk]C[Zahlman [1k\]: no point in ladder anyway :)
kill [-\]: the pro is always afraid to make a mistake and lose against an amateur. The amateur on the other hand has not much to lose instead it is more like an opportunity
scent [3k\]: p19 didnt work :(
kill [-\]: so psychological advantage for 6d
Cassis0 [5d\]: self-confidence is huge part of pro play... 
goqc [4k\]: white losing big time I think
samowar [2d\]: they play pretty fast considering the time settings
typohh [6k\]: the topright kill puts b firmly in the lead, correct?
Bruno [1d\]: is good when dadid defeat sanson
dfer: white ..........desperados
Bruno [1d\]: davidº
NorthWind [5k\]: W wouldn't have bet his whole result on that corner. he prob still win
StefanRadu [1k\]: dinner lost this game:) sorry for him but cornel is better today:) ..
N4KED [1d\]: white lost in the fuseki
N4KED [1d\]: I think
dfer: this year tournament not start well for him.......
Zahlman [1k\]: randy cheering for b lol
RoryDix [3k\]: B4 i did not like 
scent [3k\]: go blak!
Q161 [?\]: mm how can i place tags when i dont know any of the people :(
reprisal [4d?\]: i only wish being up a bit at move 88 meant i got to win all my games
kdb:  if w live by ko in top right then game is very close
madcow [1d\]: i declare cornel 4p!
kdb: but now b is ahead
StefanRadu [1k\]: this is clear evidence that ranking is not everything.  
MaxMakinen [2k\]: if b wins its a bit of an upset, since it would be the first time he beats dinerchtein
kostuek [-\]: if w lost why they still playing
Bruno [1d\]: cornel-cow
ShusakuSai [8k\]: cornel has beaten one 8 p one time
StefanRadu [1k\]: i also declare cornel 4p
reprisal [4d?\]: its not so easy to actually end a game against a good opponent
happydog [7k\]: just ragequit
Mikki62 [2k\]: game not over jet...
madcow [1d\]: like i say, let me play B and i make diner weep
kill [-\]: yeah this game is not over yet
deft [4d\]: B definitly has the advantage here, but the game is not over
kill [-\]: yes
tudor11 [2k\]: video
reprisal [4d?\]: now psychological edge is back to W
reprisal [4d?\]: because B is scared of losing after getting this kill :)
madcow [1d\]: it is as oevr as blagovich
aahz [2k\]: what is blagovich?
WorldCop [2k\]: type of sushi
reprisal [4d?\]: corrupt US politician
Zahlman [1k\]: US politics
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: who has allready more then 20 VIP-points?
kill [-\]: now we will see how good a terrorist w is :)
Bruno [1d\]: north korea and US are playing boats today
madcow [1d\]: let's see if they can resolve the population crisis soon
madcow [1d\]: adn teh food problem
N4KED [1d\]: haha
Bruno [1d\]: geez
Zahlman [1k\]: "they"?
scent [3k\]: north korea drop nuke on alaska
madcow [1d\]: not likely to reach alaska
scent [3k\]: to avenge hiroshima
Xodd [15k\]: ,,,
scent [3k\]: so they drop on south korea?
Bruno [1d\]: no, but what about chna to reach US?
st21 [-\]: how many time waste w and b?
madcow [1d\]: prolly japan, if i have to guess
madcow [1d\]: diner is still thinking if this is a bad dream....
Bruno [1d\]: China eat madcows
madcow [1d\]: NO DINER, IT"S NOT A BAD DREAM
madcow [1d\]: it reality
scent [3k\]: it would be really terrible irony if they drop nuke on japan :(
kostuek [-\]: p13?
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;W[hc]C[reprisal [4d?\]: madcow you are starting to foam a bit
madcow [1d\]: lol
madcow [1d\]: let me just wipe it off
reprisal [4d?\]: yes don't get any on the kibbitz
wolokom [5k\]: If china sells its dollar`s we have a thick probleme
reprisal [4d?\]: this is a public area :)
Cassis0 [5d\]: finally h17
scent [3k\]: if china sells its dollars they have big prob too
madcow [1d\]: H17 is small
scent [3k\]: the yuan would skyrocket
st21 [-\]: hope
deft [4d\]: H17 is nice move
reprisal [4d?\]: and the vast increase in the supply of problems would tank the market in problems as well
scent [3k\]: they only buy the dollars to manipulate their currency
st21 [-\]: 6d vs 3p overplay
profan [6k?\]: i dont understand H17
iBanker [3d\]: l18 follow up
Bruno [1d\]: H 17 is scary move
reprisal [4d?\]: h17 is to sever the relationship between f17 and j17
scent [3k\]: japan used to do the same thing
harpo [?\]: h18 l18 m18 k17 
Bruno [1d\]: black is weak in both sides
madcow [1d\]: actually, the chinese RMB is not gonna appreciate that much when the economy tanks, since no one buys anything
TomGo [1k?\]: china can just sell t-bonds and buy real estate or companies
kdb: H17 means to get the left side, if B tries to keep the left side B will get in a capturing race with the "dead" White stones
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: better to collect VIP-points, they keep their value
Kayres [4k\]: g17
wolokom [5k\]: its fine of the aji in the corner rih´ght and left
pmq: is it lunch break?
kdb: or W gets very thick at B's expense and C8 means something again
Bruno [1d\]: H 16 is good and agressive
madcow [1d\]: j16 
madcow [1d\]: or G17
typohh [6k\]: h18 possible too?
Bruno [1d\]: passive H 18
madcow [1d\]: G17 is The Correct Move
Morla [6d?\]: g17 is really bad
IASIGOCUP [-\]: f15
kdb: G17 is a bad move
madcow [1d\]: le'ts see
iBanker [3d\]: i think b should just l18
st21 [-\]: j16
kdb: L18 gives too much
Bruno [1d\]: you are 15 k
madcow [1d\]: L18 weak
Bruno [1d\]: you play like a mouse!
sameasyou [2d\]: j16 not good
madcow [1d\]: J18
IEatCats [1d\]: i think black should play a19, reach across table, and pat on head
kdb: if W easily takes away the top then it is a close game again
tudor11 [2k\]: j16
scent [3k\]: lol
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
st21 [-\]: l15
pmq: i keep losing points
sufferable: gu li beat iyama yuta by 4.5
Q161 [?\]: thats because gu li is invincible
MaxMakinen [2k\]: pairings are up: http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-pairing.txt
IEatCats [1d\]: what happened to cornel?
st21 [-\]: l15 good
BigMac [4k\]: omg....gu li
pmq: is mr. alex fixing the betting on the next move match?
pmq: he's playing unpredictable moves
pmq: he prob told his friend where to bet
qgo [4k\]: hi EuroGo
scent [3k\]: i bet you cia has kept tabs on the serial numbers of all dollars owned by china
Thoravatar [2d\]: you lied no betting on next move :(
Piem [4k\]: j16 l18 m18 j18 h18 g18 k18 h19 k19 works
kostuek [-\]: im playing unpredictable moves too
Piem [4k\]: ?
scent [3k\]: and the bonds too
Onibaka [4k\]: го го, сшурик!
Bruno [1d\]: Piem...who can follow your list?
scent [3k\]: that way us can just declaer them worthless if china tries to unbalance the us economy
madcow [1d\]: why not just declare war on china?
Piem [4k\]: hmm...bruno...i try again
NorthWind [5k\]: no politics please
madcow [1d\]: and then write off the debts
scent [3k\]: lol, it is effectively declaring war
madcow [1d\]: mama's cool
Bruno [1d\]: cool will be the ...
kostuek [-\]: j15
madcow [1d\]: k18 !
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: w has won every battle so far
pmq: w or b
pmq: ?
Piem [4k\]: J16,L18 peep, connect, j18 connect under, h18 cut, g18 capture, k18 cut
Piem [4k\]: i was wondering...
st21 [-\]: k18 looks greedy
Bruno [1d\]: is too much giving Piem
Bruno [1d\]: not good for b
Piem [4k\]: but w would play that way?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Bruno [1d\]: EuroGo I can acces my account on tvgo
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;B[ib]C[Bruno [1d\]: can'tº
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: why not?
erkkierkki [6k\]: just recover password
Bruno [1d\]: dont recognoize my email or nick name
N4KED [1d\]: wow thats a cool move
erkkierkki [6k\]: and check spam
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: open a new account
Bruno [1d\]: ok ok 
Onibaka [4k\]: w have all solid groups and 1 aji in top right 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, check spam box^^
IEatCats [1d\]: n16 group is not solid
wolokom [5k\]: the next 4 moves are importend and will dissided the game
N4KED [1d\]: white has 1.5 dead groups
st21 [-\]: resign
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;W[di]C[MonkeyFool [15k\]: the next 4 moves are always important
MonkeyFool [15k\]: no matter which stage of the game you're in
Onibaka [4k\]: n16 have all centr for grow )_)_
IEatCats [1d\]: does breakfast really need to slap the stone like that?
pmq: yea because he's mad
Q161 [?\]: lol
harpo [?\]: this is war
Q161 [?\]: if i lost a group in a big tournament i would flip the board over
BigMac [4k\]: LOL
Q161 [?\]: and then throw my bowl of stones as high and far as i could
sameasyou [2d\]: that would be resign
kmr [2k\]: this is sparta says braekfast at every time he is slapping stone:)
Neverhood [3k\]: white has more center, but it
NorthWind [5k\]: group is nothing if you win the game
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;B[cj]C[pmq: w didn't gain anything
pmq: for losing that group
Neverhood [3k\]: but it's not like a big moyo
N4KED [1d\]: this is territorial fighting game
madcow [1d\]: ain't gonna stir up any cacas, dinner
madcow [1d\]: n16 looks like dinner
Neverhood [3k\]: e7 and j4, together with n15's weakness will not let white to get a win there
IEatCats [1d\]: basically, cornel really has to screw up to lose
Q161 [?\]: hm, w is losing by a lot...
Q161 [?\]: b had ore territory even before the capture
Q161 [?\]: more*
madcow [1d\]: yeah
Notsure [2d?\]: w is creating aji now or?
samowar [2d\]: what for?
madcow [1d\]: right aji... diner let's out a big cow fart and poisons cornel
pmq: hoping for a miracle
NorthWind [5k\]: working out where he can get points
pmq: gu ri can prob come back from this
sameasyou [2d\]: r12
sameasyou [2d\]: p13?
Neverhood [3k\]: g17 !
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;W[gc]
;B[gb]C[Stefany93 [15k\]: Alexander will lose!
Q161 [?\]: it looks that way
]
;W[hb]
;B[ha]
;W[fb]
;B[ga]C[Talio [7k\]: wow sure a lot of professionals here :)
faintvoice [1k\]: how do i tag this game?
BigMac [4k\]: use the tag button
bartosz [-\]: did dinerstein pass pro exams?
wolokom [5k\]: l 18
bartosz [-\]: *dinerchtein
Neverhood [3k\]: type into the text field below "close" button
Bruno [1d\]: j 16
weirdchess [2k\]: of course he did, he's a pro
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;W[id]C[Talio [7k\]: i meant all the pros commenting on this game =)
bartosz [-\]: in japan?
A1R [4k\]: i think he didnt pass the exam
wolokom [5k\]: a preparation
Bruno [1d\]: f 16
Optician [1k\]: l18
madcow [1d\]: wow... there is a big mayo!
]
;B[kb]C[A1R [4k\]: its honorary i think
madcow [1d\]: i think B lose!
BigMac [4k\]: h19 was bad..
BigMac [4k\]: should have been j15
StefanRadu [1k\]: you are just a mad cow. w wins.
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;W[jc]
;B[jb]
;W[ia]
;B[ja]C[nogo66: what are the vip points good for? do you have to buy them?
pmq: what's the time reamining
madcow [1d\]: yes, u can buy them from me
sufferable: i hope that lee changho beats gu li tomorrow cause he already did yesterday so he deserves to win
scent [3k\]: misclik
StefanRadu [1k\]: w will soon resign.
gocko: black far ahead
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you can earn them by tagging photos in the Photo menu and use them to buy books and lessons
pmq: what do you mean, he already did yesterday
pmq: isn't getting a win enough reward for winning yesterday?
sufferable: he has to win him again
Orandajinn [2d?\]: oui oui
pmq: because it's best out of 3?
sufferable: http://justplaygo.com/index.php/JPG/category/News/
Cassis0 [5d\]: noir recule trop... 
NorthWind [5k\]: apart from top right corner, B has what ?
Optician [1k\]: w wants p19 to be sente against m17 group
sufferable: no its just cause its the first year of the super meijin 
sufferable: there is no titleholder to get a seed or anything
BigMac [4k\]: p19 cant possibly be sente...
Wisp [20k\]: was k 19 good?
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: ooh, b brought out the fan
cherisse [1k\]: yey C
IEatCats [1d\]: hahaha, cornel facial expressions and fan waving
madcow [1d\]: cpu overheating
madcow [1d\]: cpu trottling
Bruno [1d\]: he is sleeping
Reh [10k\]: k19 was a forced move after j19
madcow [1d\]: fan speed 9989 RPM
A1R [4k\]: cornel in good shape ?!
Bruno [1d\]: dinner is crying :(
Murugandi [4d\]: ik geef het toe, vuile ***** je hebt me echt genakt
Wisp [20k\]: i didnt c j19..
StefanRadu [1k\]: someone make cornel a pro! ^^
Murugandi [4d\]: (citaat)
Bruno [1d\]: or dinner a 5 dan
reprisal [4d?\]: why stop at that...kill the highlander, and you become immortal
sufferable: b looks doing great this game
wolokom [5k\]: k 15
Pepijn [2d\]: is that a song Murugandi?
N4KED [1d\]: are pop and catalin at the congress this year?
Murugandi [4d\]: yes
Ruddick [2k?\]: I dont see on EuyroTv the game..I see it white
Pepijn [2d\]: Polish song?
Murugandi [4d\]: ali b
Orandajinn [2d?\]: please focus on the game
Ruddick [2k?\]: why white screen?>
Murugandi [4d\]: HAHA
scent [3k\]: i bought bp when it was at 26
Murugandi [4d\]: het leven is geen spel
StefanRadu [1k\]: where can i see the pairings?
scent [3k\]: then sold it at 36 hehehe
Orandajinn [2d?\]: het leven is geen weddenschap
Murugandi [4d\]: het leven is geen wedden dat!
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;W[oh]C[Orandajinn [2d?\]: oh
Orandajinn [2d?\]: sorry
Murugandi [4d\]: ja pas op he
madcow [1d\]: my intense focus will melt the game, don't make me do it
Orandajinn [2d?\]: ja
Bruno [1d\]: is Mirel Florescu at the tournament?
Orandajinn [2d?\]: nee
Orandajinn [2d?\]: um
Orandajinn [2d?\]: ja
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Ruddick go to http://ustream.tv and go to the helpcenter
Pepijn [2d\]: timsalabim!
Orandajinn [2d?\]: ik ga wel even naar mijn kamer
]
;B[qi]C[Kayres [4k\]: more mayonnaise
Pepijn [2d\]: 2d? alweer!
Dogen [4k\]: what's the URL for the live feed?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
IEatCats [1d\]: breakfast should stop stone slapping
Orandajinn [2d?\]: halloo
fatihsulak [-\]: white dreaming big 
Murugandi [4d\]: Vu je snad jediným účastníkem asijského původu, ale je občanem Švédska. Programu se účastní podruhé. V Evropě má druhé kyu, ale je to tím, že nejezdí na turnaje (na KGS má 3d). Určitě je silný, ale jeho problémem je, že je příliš agresivní a často na to doplácí. Letos ho pronásledují nějaké rodinné problémy nebo tak něco, protože se na lekcích i ligových partiích moc neukazuje..
madcow [1d\]: what language is that?
Murugandi [4d\]: czech
scent [3k\]: what cuontry is cornel from?
madcow [1d\]: it looks like finish to me
Murugandi [4d\]: romania
Dogen [4k\]: what's the green stuff in the glass on the EGC poster?
Damien [10k\]: romania
scent [3k\]: thx
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: tea
erkkierkki [6k\]: we need to bet when eurogotv messes up first move
scent [3k\]: burzo is romanian name?
erkkierkki [6k\]: looks good for now
BigMac [4k\]: lol
Dogen [4k\]: what kind of tea is that? looks like worms in a glass
dubdub [1k\]: it says offair for me
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
dubdub [1k\]: i can't see the video?
ponnuki79 [3k\]: se says w+13
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
scent [3k\]: stop spamming
madcow [1d\]: i bet iswas 15:45pm
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: refresh if you have problems
Pepijn [2d\]: you mean EuropGoTV1??
Murugandi [4d\]: nu heb je spijt
]
;W[eb]C[Murugandi [4d\]: maar je hoeft niet meer te bellen schat
]
;B[jd]C[zc3k [1k\]: fighting Cornel ! can u hear me@
dubdub [1k\]: refresh doesn't help... instantly goes to off air
AllNewSad [3d\]: j15 ?
madcow [1d\]: give it up diner!
barty [2d\]: dubdub maybe you have problem whit connection
Dogen [4k\]: what's the point of this "bet on the next move" thing?
kdb: I like AD's play here, it's about the best you can make of this situation
NotAfraid [3d\]: H16\\H15?
itepilah [1d\]: early to give up
Dogen [4k\]: how does one get "VIP points"?
Murugandi [4d\]: ik ben je zat, geloof me nou, ik heb het echt gehad
Pepijn [2d\]: waarom kijk je dan?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: tag photos in the Photo menu Dogen
Murugandi [4d\]: je hoeft niet meer te bellen, schat
kdb: he's making it an all-or-nothing game
Pepijn [2d\]: zo vaak bel ik je toch niet?
ponnuki79 [3k\]: still czech? i dont think so
NorthWind [5k\]: k15
Orandajinn [2d?\]: pepijn, we gaan ons wel gedragen he
Pepijn [2d\]: oh sorry
Murugandi [4d\]: je begon te strippen op de bar, mensen vonden het bizar, je bent een beetje in de war
scent [3k\]: the higher kyu i was the more vaguely i spoke about position
Pepijn [2d\]: leugens!
BigMac [4k\]: feafeaifhaejdvhjfqeuor eiafuifje efaifue fea fefkjkg tht ejhket
zc3k [1k\]: i think, no good reason to E18
Murugandi [4d\]: het fikkie is gestookt en nu zal je het moeten blussen
ponnuki79 [3k\]: w+5,5
Dogen [4k\]: tag photos? I don't know who those people are
BigMac [4k\]: ng fgsh shry shg lkiadfa feat ts sg sh
Stefany93 [15k\]: the jew will lose
kdb: if he can convert 25+ points in te center then it's very close
Lesmian [2k?\]: if
Optician [1k\]: e18 was to stop b getting an eye there
Wisp [20k\]: is k 15 good?
Orandajinn [2d?\]: ewa ewa
Orandajinn [2d?\]: wat ben je toch gatar
erkkierkki [6k\]: then dogen do some research if you really want those points
shaula [1k\]: Wisp, if you k15, then black h16 -> double atari
Dogen [4k\]: yea, right, like I really want to spend my time on that just to play a next move game...
Pepijn [2d\]: Wisp> it is interesting exchange
cherisse [1k\]: what is the clock now, harry?
erkkierkki [6k\]: good thing is that you dont have to
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the one who earns the most VIP-points today will be mentioned in the next newsletter
Dogen [4k\]: with all due respect, gee whiz...
Bruno [1d\]: how do I get them?
barty [2d\]: How Alex mumble when thinking :D
bartosz [-\]: is top bar 5d?
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;W[he]
;B[je]C[cherisse [1k\]: lol b replied that quick?
barty [2d\]: it was easy 
FraTeoX [1k\]: b very good
barty [2d\]: go to center
kdb: K15 only move
Bruno [1d\]: black play like a MOUSE!
barty [2d\]: and attack N15
Orandajinn [2d?\]: red caaat
angrybot [2k?\]: close game now
barty [2d\]: Cornel look like he will sleep :)
Neverhood [3k\]: who's sexy voice speaking in french is that?...
madcow [1d\]: someone go give cornel a smack on the head
barty [2d\]: hehe
madcow [1d\]: tell cornel not to mess it up
N4KED [1d\]: please bet now
Orandajinn [2d?\]: MrZNF
blackstork [?\]: imo b still comfortably ahead
cherisse [1k\]: how to earn points on VIP?
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: R12
kdb: see, the thing about dead groups is
kdb: they aren't dead until they're off the board
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;W[hf]C[madcow [1d\]: k14  is the Right Move
angrybot [2k?\]: b not comfy ahead , but slightly
madcow [1d\]: k14 k14 k14 
kdb: W made a 15+ point swing on the left side because of that dead group
kdb: also a little bit of aji on the right
Bruno [1d\]: there's no way for white to win this game
plusguy [3d\]: thats still not enought tho
kdb: No, W is still behind, but not nearly as much as you would think
crizz [2k\]: GO CORNEL ! 
kdb: B cannot get any more territory
sameasyou [2d\]: d12?
]
;B[of]C[kdb: so it's up to W to try to get as much as possible from the center
barty [2d\]: uuu
madcow [1d\]: time to Kill B
kdb: ...P14 is really painful.
erna [7k\]: where?
madcow [1d\]: right, it's like tooth extraction
barty [2d\]: h14 was not overplay ??
]
;W[lf]C[Pepijn [2d\]: h14 was cool
kdb: if W didn't play H14 then H14 is forcing for B
kdb: F17 has terrible aji
barty [2d\]: f17 still aji
]
;B[cg]C[Orandajinn [2d?\]: zenniw
Orandajinn [2d?\]: zennow
go4fun [1d\]: Big
]
;W[bg]
;B[df]C[Pepijn [2d\]: tim je klinkt wat geobsedeerd
]
;W[af]C[barty [2d\]: perhaps h14 ok and big but give black sente in this situation is not good
]
;B[ce]C[reprisal [4d?\]: hmm this seems to enable d11
Mikki62 [2k\]: b playing risky?
Karnesun [5d\]: Hi, Euro!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hi^^
Optician [1k\]: what can d11 do ?
barty [2d\]: to fast black want settle top maybe better was just K13 after M14
Karnesun [5d\]: Have a news about Artem?
Orandajinn [2d?\]: pardon
shaula [1k\]: why play like this if you are ahead. Strange play from black, no?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: still playing
NorthWind [5k\]: d15 tempting
madcow [1d\]: c11 !
madcow [1d\]: KILL HIM !
Ruddick [2k?\]: privet Roma
barty [2d\]: c15 now could be gote
shaula [1k\]: it's true it's big, but I think black played this move a little bit too quickly
kdb: wow.
kdb: B should not be playing ko now...
Optician [1k\]: why not - b has plenty of ko-threats
gisel [4d\]: its not so big for B to lose this
barty [2d\]: now alex can better remark board
Bruno [1d\]: cornel play like a MOUSE with lion theets
shaula [1k\]: black is ahead, he should play simple, not start fighting.
shaula [1k\]: Therefore no ko.
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;W[ci]
;B[bi]C[Bruno [1d\]: tell him in his next lesson with you
]
;W[bh]
;B[bf]C[barty [2d\]: start ko
dubdub [1k\]: monster ko
barty [2d\]: yeap
shaula [1k\]: now white has a hope to come back in the game
StefanRadu [1k\]: w no hope....
kdb: is the top right big enough now?
barty [2d\]: to good for white and to risk for black
]
;W[ai]
;B[bj]
;W[cf]C[N4KED [1d\]: ko is flowering for black I think
Optician [1k\]: e12
Neverhood [3k\]: and deflowering for white
barty [2d\]: flowering* ??
]
;B[eh]C[kdb: if b lose the ko with no local advantage then the left group is in danger
kdb: b is making the ko bigger
Q161 [?\]: time for w to kill left side or die trying
shaula [1k\]: This ko could turn very bad for black
batubiru [3k?\]: b still happy with result
Kayres [4k\]: d10
igravious [8k\]: dumb question, there's a video feed for this?
]
;W[ei]C[N4KED [1d\]: yes
]
;B[bf]C[shaula [1k\]: yes igravious
Bluefinger [10k?\]: Its http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
madcow [1d\]: wow... 
madcow [1d\]: B almost dead
cherisse [1k\]: cool banner btw
madcow [1d\]: some gravy to go along for W
adhitthana [2d\]: ko is huge
Bruno [1d\]: no
Bruno [1d\]: s 4 big trade
Warfreak2 [6d\]: go cornel!
madcow [1d\]: i just knew it... bruno was gonna screw up
Mikki62 [2k\]: cornel the best
barty [2d\]: now black need to win this ko
MonkeyFool [15k\]: why would cornel make the ko bigger when he was ahead? seems odd
Bruno [1d\]: no...it is just a matter of 'make it fun' cornel was sleeping
]
;W[rp]C[RoryDix [3k\]: big enough?
igravious [8k\]: thx
shaula [1k\]: Well, if black loses the game, then we will all know what was the losing move.
StefanRadu [1k\]: take the ko.
barty [2d\]: to earlier for cornel to play :)
StefanRadu [1k\]: s5 not big enough:P
N4KED [1d\]: I dont think b can lose
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: Cornel looks awake now
mihi [6d\]: take it damn
Bruno [1d\]: no
mihi [6d\]: yes  still ahead if he take
]
;B[ro]C[mihi [6d\]: takes
]
;W[cf]C[Kayres [4k\]: bah
Bruno [1d\]: M 13
RoryDix [3k\]: black figures he has enough threats
]
;B[fh]C[Bruno [1d\]: o 3
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Bruno [1d\]: for example
N4KED [1d\]: black dont need to win the ko
shaula [1k\]: o3 would be a bad threat
Bruno [1d\]: is like the cat and the mouse
Lakanal [9k\]: At this level do they know exactly the number of threats for each ?
Talio [7k\]: n3 as threat
NorthWind [5k\]: e9
Optician [1k\]: f17 stone becoming more interesting every move
qgo [4k\]: EuroGo is that you Harry ?
N4KED [1d\]: white is digging his own grave
Bruno [1d\]: I see fangs
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;W[ek]
;B[bf]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yep qgo
barty [2d\]: fill
barty [2d\]: C14 
]
;W[bd]C[Bruno [1d\]: long ko
Optician [1k\]: b d9
barty [2d\]: black should fill this now
RoryDix [3k\]: D9?
]
;B[ag]
;W[cf]C[Bruno [1d\]: he need to win
madcow [1d\]: headlines:burno loses all in Ko
]
;B[fj]C[samowar [2d\]: d9 is a chicken shit move:P
Bruno [1d\]: nah...do you think its losing ? oh boy
RoryDix [3k\]: w resign very soon
NorthWind [5k\]: getting ever more complicated
igravious [8k\]: i would love to be in tampere :)
StefanRadu [1k\]: i said that 5 moves ago.
RoryDix [3k\]: :-)
RedEye [15k\]: I know some people who are
Bruno [1d\]: badtastecow :)
igravious [8k\]: i've spent the day there, lovely town
RedEye [15k\]: i've never been - maybe get to the euro's next year
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;W[fi]C[Pepijn [2d\]: next year its in France
RedEye [15k\]: i know
Dexihno [7k\]: On which board are playing Ondrej Silt and Artem Kachanovsky please ?
bartosz [-\]: 8?
IEatCats [1d\]: i wonder if cornel regrets beginning this ko
]
;B[gi]C[madcow [1d\]: of course he does
StefanRadu [1k\]: i dont think so.
madcow [1d\]: badly
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
bartosz [-\]: silt vs artem on board 9
Bruno [1d\]: brilliant
Orandajinn [2d?\]: man o man o man o man
tapir [1k\]: Are the pairings online somewhere?
WorldCop [2k\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-pairing.txt
N4KED [1d\]: Is this game televised within the EGC building?
wither [5k\]: w expected to get ated because hes weaker?
mooooo [7k\]: since when i have to logg in to watch??
kalia [1d\]: can't see b losing this game
wither [5k\]: i can see all sorts of crazy things
wither [5k\]: with my MIND
Bruno [1d\]: 30 hanes and no problem
Rossk [-\]: f9
madcow [1d\]: oh not... W dead
igravious [8k\]: i can't find Dinershteyn on europeangodatabase.eu
xio [5k\]: go breakfast
]
;W[gj]C[kenjiro43 [6k\]: Diner is pro
]
;B[bf]C[Pepijn [2d\]: there is no Denershteyn in Europe
StefanRadu [1k\]: breakfast is over:))
rkda [6k\]: no s in that name, it's a c
A1R [4k\]: dinerchtein
A1R [4k\]: in egd
niklaus [1d\]: many different spellings of his name around...
madcow [1d\]: i heard of lichenstein
Loons [4k\]: the ch is like it is in dutch or german
WorldCop [2k\]: http://www.europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/Player_Card.php?&key=10313237
Loons [4k\]: ?
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Go Cornel!
Orandajinn [2d?\]: i heard dinerchtein was not real pro
Kaizoku3 [2k\]: big shame for 3p
RoryDix [3k\]: come on
yithril [2d\]: ...why/
yithril [2d\]: cornel is strong
Kickchon [?\]: hey ho, is this a tournament 
Kickchon [?\]: ?
Q161 [?\]: yes
inin [3d\]: b win
donGoku [4k\]: r19?
madcow [1d\]: i heard that cornel was a fake amateur
]
;W[hp]C[kenjiro43 [6k\]: Mad cow
SqueezeIt [2d\]: lol
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i heard there are kibitzers on KGS
kenjiro43 [6k\]: LOL
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: b thinking about pulling out the fan again?
backpack [1d\]: eurogotv: that's just a rumor
mooooo [7k\]: no calatalin taranu fakes 7d amateur it seems xD
Tryss [2k\]: or it didn't happens ! :p
WorldCop [2k\]: fan is so gay
madcow [1d\]: is the fan pink?
Dexihno [7k\]: Thanks bartosz
]
;B[fk]C[SqueezeIt [2d\]: Fan Hui?
WorldCop [2k\]: might as well be
N4KED [1d\]: yeeehaaa
Kickchon [?\]: eurogotv, is there live videostream of this match ?
WorldCop [2k\]: hm big trade or what
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Kickchon [?\]: thanks
]
;W[hq]C[WorldCop [2k\]: b crazy
]
;B[eo]
;W[do]C[Orandajinn [2d?\]: fa2
]
;B[fp]C[WorldCop [2k\]: changed my mind. b so cool
Kour [4k\]: where is the betting?
sufferable:  why is fan still popular among go players
]
;W[bq]C[mooooo [7k\]: eurogotv i have to register to watch how much spam mail i will get?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ask others
madcow [1d\]: hi mooooo
Optician [1k\]: no spam
Q161 [?\]: 0 spam
mooooo [7k\]: zero?
sufferable: they should all switch to those funny finger spring thingys like cho chikun has
StefanRadu [1k\]: no spam!
yoyoma [1d\]: Use a fake email if you're afraid
mooooo [7k\]: ok then
Kickchon [?\]: gah i need a second monitor to see browser and cgoban at the same time
deft [4d\]: because a fan keeps your head cool
madcow [1d\]: how many RPMs is that fan working at?
Bruno [1d\]: this is getting unmoral
Q161 [?\]: there may be a newsletter once a month or something
Q161 [?\]: if you think thats spam
WorldCop [2k\]: very necessary in finland. must be 40 degrees there.
deft [4d\]: farenheit?
olkipojka [10k\]: it was 40 last week
WorldCop [2k\]: no, they use celsius
Ruddick [2k?\]: )))
N4KED [1d\]: the ustream site shows feed as berlin
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you can say no mail with registering
madcow [1d\]: another Ko
deft [4d\]: I know, worldcop - sorry that joke was lost on you
WorldCop [2k\]: i am sorry too :(
WorldCop [2k\]: do you still love me?
deft [4d\]: let's put it like this: I'm still largely indifferent towards you ;)
igravious [8k\]: hmm, spelt Alexandr Dinerstein on europeangodatabase.eu
WorldCop [2k\]: hrm ok. i'll take what i can get
Q161 [?\]: that was a deft way to put it
vannab [3k\]: jokes should be spelled correctly
igravious [8k\]: http://www.europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/Player_Card.php?key=10313237
madcow [1d\]: spelt
NorthWind [5k\]: this game 3 hours so far
igravious [8k\]: spelt is yummy
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: like mentioned on EuroGoTV
ohohoh [1k\]: b win
igravious [8k\]: thx
cherisse [1k\]: been 3 hrs?!
kenjiro43 [6k\]: For sure b win
kenjiro43 [6k\]: :)
igravious [8k\]: thx EuroGoTV !! Great job as per usual.
ohohoh [1k\]: k13
WorldCop [2k\]: i predict...f7
kenjiro43 [6k\]: e6?
Kickchon [?\]: this board position looks so difficult, eh :O
Optician [1k\]: f7 has been played
WorldCop [2k\]: with my magical powers
nedmunds: live go not exactly rivetting tv viewing
WorldCop [2k\]: of hindsight
]
;B[fm]
;W[io]C[ohohoh [1k\]: wow
xio [5k\]: f7, wow
Bruno [1d\]: this fight is ugly then
NorthWind [5k\]: sure it is ned :)
Loons [4k\]: I like white, he is trying to win
Q161 [?\]: ...?
Bruno [1d\]: black should leave M 3
NorthWind [5k\]: better than tennis
ohohoh [1k\]: l5
]
;B[jg]C[WorldCop [2k\]: yes, true pro power. wanting to win, and making an effort etc.
ohohoh [1k\]: i am octopus
nedmunds: better than golf, ok
WorldCop [2k\]: better than fishing as well.
madcow [1d\]: somethang smells bad
BluBs [-\]: OMFG
Kayres [4k\]: f17 incoming
barty [2d\]: F17 aji still problem
]
;W[lh]C[xio [5k\]: some of the kibitzers r really strong!
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Octopus Paul-ohohoh?
]
;B[pj]C[ohohoh [1k\]: thx
Bruno [1d\]: this game is over
madcow [1d\]: g16 
kenjiro43 [6k\]: TY Xio
WorldCop [2k\]: i don't hear any fat lady singing
kenjiro43 [6k\]: We trained specially
Bruno [1d\]: the rest is only pure ego
NorthWind [5k\]: lower side looking big for W ?
madcow [1d\]: pat's bruzo
Kayres [4k\]: r11 was so nice
nedmunds: turn up your speakers worldcrop
WorldCop [2k\]: on it
Bruno [1d\]: ><
N4KED [1d\]: Dinerchtien need to stop studying trick moves and study fuseki
Kayres [4k\]: :D
WorldCop [2k\]: fuseki was fine, b was very low
StefanRadu [1k\]: fuseki was better for b. 
StefanRadu [1k\]: way better. 
zhou901108 [1d\]: maybe life and death
N4KED [1d\]: but the wall was stupid
Loons [4k\]: black wants to threaten M14 to reduce R7 ?
cherisse [1k\]: poor breakfast :( entertaining lectures though
N4KED [1d\]: who makes a wall in a diagnol fuseki
WorldCop [2k\]: those wanting a fight
Bruno [1d\]: H 13 will come soony
StefanRadu [1k\]: after the fuseki..  w had only the upper left corner c17 d16 c14 stones. and .. the great wall.
]
;W[il]C[Q161 [?\]: why w doesnt play f5?
Bruno [1d\]: no need
]
;B[ol]C[Q161 [?\]: doesnt black get out otherwise?
]
;W[om]C[sufferable: b gets out anyway
madcow [1d\]: o10 
migi [2k\]: All this crap about game is ower, this or that player wins. I bet the game will end up being just a few points to the winner in the end
madcow [1d\]: n10 
WorldCop [2k\]: close game doesn't mean it was close the whole time :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: nobody bets anymore?
Q161 [?\]: ok how b responds to w f5?
WorldCop [2k\]: euro betting is hard work. give me 10 points per tag, and keep your books :)
]
;B[nf]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
barty [2d\]: Q161: After F5 g5 play black 
Xodd [15k\]: so far beyond me eurogo =P
Kickchon [?\]: how does this betting work?
masli [18k\]: how do you make tags?
madcow [1d\]: dont' do it kicky
N4KED [1d\]: go to the live stream and you will see a thing off to the right of the stream
Q161 [?\]: f5 g5 e6?
StefanRadu [1k\]: mihi .. who wins?
jia [3k\]: alex
xio [5k\]: looks sente
]
;W[ki]C[barty [2d\]: now of course J7 make more easy to attack F4 but still F4 cant run
sufferable: thats it. one move at a time
barty [2d\]: can*
RoryDix [3k\]: go alex !
masli [18k\]: then what?
nedmunds: how get vip points to bet ?
sufferable: h4 becoming in damezumari has an effect also
Q161 [?\]: barty what if f5 g5 e6?
masli [18k\]: you have all the poto maps
crizz [2k\]: go cornel!!!
Dexihno [7k\]: Where will be results ?
StefanRadu [1k\]: cornel better
barty [2d\]: h5
N4KED [1d\]: tag photos in photo section to get vip points
masli [18k\]: how do I tag?
RoryDix [3k\]: you will find out
barty [2d\]: but this is more complicated
N4KED [1d\]: go to the photo section and tag the peoples faces that you know
Q161 [?\]: um
pmq: or items
Q161 [?\]: b looks dead
masli [18k\]: what if I don't know nayone?
Q161 [?\]: if you do that
barty [2d\]: F5 looks good for white
Q161 [?\]: or ko at least
]
;B[kk]C[pmq: u can tag things like go board or shoes
masli [18k\]: hmm k
masli [18k\]:  thnx
barty [2d\]: but not now
N4KED [1d\]: not sure how helpful that is
tharkun [2k\]: eurogotv: i didn t see thomas debarre on the pairing list , is he playing ?
sufferable: q161 b can roll underneath j2  also
madcow [1d\]: try communist, republican, democrats, facists
igravious [8k\]: why not b E10?
sufferable: g3 looks anything but dead after your f5
A1R [4k\]: the stream is always refreshing -.-
RedEye [15k\]: wouldnt B escape and then be threatening the cut at J6/7 if white plays F5?
N4KED [1d\]: try reloading the page maybe
adhitthana [2d\]: what a messy board
Q161 [?\]: sufferable i dont think it works for w
Q161 [?\]: i mean b
wither [5k\]: i always want the underdog to win in these situations
]
;W[gl]
;B[fl]C[xio [5k\]: that's a huge empty triangle
Q161 [?\]: looks like ko
wither [5k\]: not very empty
Optician [1k\]: it's not completely empty
Doukan [3k\]: e8 makes b2 bomber!
N4KED [1d\]: there is no ko
wither [5k\]: why doesnt w seal off F4?
Xodd [15k\]: whatever happened to the c14 ko?
wither [5k\]: no work?
madcow [1d\]: that's 4-4
madcow [1d\]: F6 or G7 wins
Doukan [3k\]: e8 wins for black
Q161 [?\]: n4ked how do you respond to w f5 then?
Dupaaxe [?\]: Cornel go to sleep for a while ?
Dupaaxe [?\]: :)
Optician [1k\]: ko not so important, since d11 got captured
Xodd [15k\]: ah
wither [5k\]: they got bored of ko
]
;W[mk]C[MoogleOo [2d\]: f5 g5 f6 what next?
sufferable: w f5 is just not a good move
nedmunds: dinner plays 2 stones quickly
xio [5k\]: aggression
Q161 [?\]: then how do you respond...
StefanRadu [1k\]: L7^^
Xodd [15k\]: is talking against the rules or something?  the never say anything
]
;B[ml]C[NorthWind [5k\]: W r12 might be poss at some point ?
pmq: yes very rude to talk
mooooo [7k\]: she looks nice should show more of herself
olkipojka [10k\]: against good manners
sufferable: just like that connect at g4 and j3 stones are going to be in damezumari to do anything
Q161 [?\]: f5 g4 g5 now what
RedEye [15k\]: she looked like a troll which was appropriate for sweden
]
;W[ll]
;B[lk]C[fada [2k\]: bad style but q9 
madcow [1d\]: i love trolls
RedEye [15k\]: well then you should be at the euro's then :-)
sufferable: f5 g5 e6 g4 g6 h5 h6 j2 h2 h1 k4 g2 j4 l2  or something
Larrave [1d\]: its always funny to read their faces
sufferable: i dunno. its not working clearly too messy and complicated
madcow [1d\]: i've got a job
]
;W[mj]C[Larrave [1d\]: white looks more confident now
Larrave [1d\]: :D
RedEye [15k\]: you could take holidays
]
;B[lm]C[madcow [1d\]: i've 3 kids
madcow [1d\]: some too young to travel
mooooo [7k\]: send em to grandma
RedEye [15k\]: you SHOULD take holidays then
sufferable: you would be losing hope of making points in l3 area
Kickchon [?\]: what kind of goban is that ?
RedEye [15k\]: ;-)
madcow [1d\]: grandma has 7 kids to take care of already
]
;W[nl]
;B[kl]
;W[ok]
;B[nm]
;W[pl]C[mooooo [7k\]: ur grandma must be very young or are you still a kid?
Goreon [2d\]: j9 
Pepijn [2d\]: isnt this risky for black?
barty [2d\]: then 2 or 3 dont make diffrent :D
madcow [1d\]: grandkids
Optician [1k\]: b k4 looks possible now
sufferable: and theres cuts left over
NorthWind [5k\]: if m7 dies, W wins ?
]
;B[jp]C[madcow [1d\]: b would be lucky to get out alive
kill [-\]: H11
kenjiro43 [6k\]: y?
]
;W[ho]C[sufferable: h5 is threatening
]
;B[gn]C[madcow [1d\]: k7 
sufferable: threatened your f5 sequence
Q161 [?\]: um, instead of w k4 just w g2 f2 k4 g1 j4 
barty [2d\]: now J10 looks nice for black
soliniec: ho,ho
Q161 [?\]: then if b connects on right w f1 and b is dead
Kaizoku3 [2k\]: paintfull for white
soliniec: b try kill J5
sameasyou [2d\]: w resigned?
Q161 [?\]: or if b doesnt then cut off form right
nedmunds: cornel looks quietly confident
barty [2d\]: L6 maybe for white
madcow [1d\]: yay... cornel the Pro Killler
soliniec: W K10?
]
;W[kn]C[PapaYan [-\]: where is cornel come?
RoryDix [3k\]: *SLAP*
Goreon [2d\]: romania
PapaYan [-\]: thx
madcow [1d\]: hungry
soliniec: barty :)
mooooo [7k\]: i like l6
barty [2d\]: L6 was easy to see
mooooo [7k\]: dinnerchtein now my hero
Idn [2d\]: lol
IEatCats [1d\]: m5?
Pepijn [2d\]: still feels risky to me, the black group in the middle
barty [2d\]: qestion what play black 
barty [2d\]: white dont need count even for play L6
sufferable: n3
barty [2d\]: but black must now :)
]
;B[ln]C[barty [2d\]: L5 M5 M4
Q161 [?\]: sufferable your sequence didnt work
cherisse [1k\]: hi guojuan
Doukan [3k\]: how many poimts b ahead now?
IEatCats [1d\]: black has n3?
A1R [4k\]: b looks better
Q161 [?\]: but w/e w cannot play it now
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Hello Guojuan
barty [2d\]: but now M4 not good
Wisp [20k\]: SE B+.5
N4KED [1d\]: well b needs to live
Doukan [3k\]: Guojuan is here!
madcow [1d\]: guojuan, who's leading?
barty [2d\]: black is ok
Doukan [3k\]: SE is wrong i guess :/
]
;W[ko]C[sufferable: yes my sequence was wrong
barty [2d\]: p3 aji is big here
madcow [1d\]: please tell us!!!!!
sufferable: h2 instead of j2
cherisse [1k\]: is it time to resign?
]
;B[lo]C[sufferable: ok
Q161 [?\]: and w h6 was better anyway
Q161 [?\]: so that would never have happened
NorthWind [5k\]: hell no, time to fight
dubdub [1k\]: f16 is starting to look big once this fight is settled
barty [2d\]: M4 not good then maybe N3 and after black connect J10
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Yeap
kenjiro43 [6k\]: :)
N4KED [1d\]: connect and die maybe
Miley [1k?\]: nice game
MoogleOo [2d\]: n4 k10 ?
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Fight time
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
weirdchess [2k\]: l4
Xodd [15k\]: whats harry potter doing in the background
rps [5k\]: m4
cherisse [1k\]: lol
WorldCop [2k\]: that is dinersteins mentor
oov [-\]: i think that's ondrej
RedEye [15k\]: lol
itepilah [1d\]: :)
RedEye [15k\]: skulking about like a burglar
]
;W[kp]
;B[mq]
;W[nq]C[Dupaaxe [?\]: :)
]
;B[im]C[kenjiro43 [6k\]: ornel planning big scale kill?
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Cornel
mex [6k\]: j9 
madcow [1d\]: seems that cornel has some plan... pray's it not chicken shit
Doukan [3k\]: black ahead by how many moku?
WorldCop [2k\]: big scale life would be enough
barty [2d\]: hmmm L3 not better ??
RoryDix [3k\]: L2
Dupaaxe [?\]: if not die himself :)
WorldCop [2k\]: l3 is for kids
weirdchess [2k\]: w needs l3
kill [-\]: K2
RoryDix [3k\]: sorry L3 - think is necessary
oddalot [5k\]: did artem win?
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Did Catalin win?
Dupaaxe [?\]: l2 :)
WorldCop [2k\]: did burzo win?
kill [-\]: K2 threatens to connect
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Yes
]
;W[jm]C[Pepijn [2d\]: did Alexander Eerbeek win?
sufferable: fingers writhing in the bowl is the vuvuzela of go
]
;B[jl]C[testtesttt [1d\]: HMM
madcow [1d\]: wow... b is alive
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Yes
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Told  you
kenjiro43 [6k\]: :)
Rakuen [7d\]: very hard to kill this b group..
madcow [1d\]: nice call
kenjiro43 [6k\]: :)
Wisp [20k\]: h7 ?
Katsuri [3k\]: no koreans on board 1 ^^
sufferable: this was nothing compared to gu li escaping his group today
deft [4d\]: but how alive is W?
barty [2d\]: Rakuen: black can easly kill black groups ;)
madcow [1d\]: why is cornel only 6d?
Javaness [2d\]: kill him
Pepijn [2d\]: is gu li playing too?
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Lol
Dino9 [6d\]: who won 2nd round?
WorldCop [2k\]: it's egf 6d. that's pretty high.
sufferable: he just beat iyama
Optician [1k\]: w can capture k3 stones if he needs to
madcow [1d\]: yeah, i love guli and her lightning kicks
deft [4d\]: seems W will have to play L3 to make sure life (and anyway giving B L3 in sente is too bad)
Katsuri [3k\]: eurogo how much time left?
Rakuen [7d\]: bad start for alex
jia [3k\]: j9
]
;W[lp]C[sufferable: i was sure gu li would resign at any moment during the middle of the game
]
;B[ik]C[PapaYan [-\]: alex is weak for a pro =(
Rakuen [7d\]: really, alex did not shine in this game
Rakuen [7d\]: top right play
altrecop [1k\]: O_o
Rakuen [7d\]: not good
]
;W[cf]C[Katsuri [3k\]: of courseeuropean
samowar [2d\]: korean
altrecop [1k\]: aaah KGS will never change.... kyus judging pro's :D
mihi [6d\]: N3?
reprisal [4d?\]: i wonder what happened in the top right
samowar [2d\]: he's a korean pro
]
;B[ff]C[mihi [6d\]: N4
reprisal [4d?\]: was it a misread? i cant see where
WorldCop [2k\]: overplay tenuki
sameasyou [2d\]: maybe now Dinerstein will post Burzo game on GoSensations
N4KED [1d\]: dinerchtien lose but great game just the same
WorldCop [2k\]: cut probably a bit much
Optician [1k\]: b can afford to lose m3
scent [3k\]: did w resign?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
madcow [1d\]: all gonna die
Optician [1k\]: and now m3 and f16 are about same size
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: earn vip-points by tagging photos
IEatCats [1d\]: no, white was taken away by fashion police
yoyoma [1d\]: black gave back N3 and the B13 ko
Katsuri [3k\]: how much koreans are participating????
TomGo [1k?\]: fashion pol. after him for decades now
noned [2d\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/registered.php?sort=4
A1R [4k\]: 4 i think
IEatCats [1d\]: f14 is smart move
StefanRadu [1k\]: breakfast owned!!! :D:D:D:D:D
A1R [4k\]: 3x 7dans 1x 6dan
Katsuri [3k\]: tyya
RedEye [15k\]: it is a horrific jumper i have to agree
xinyil [2k\]: breakfast is only human
Dino9 [6d\]: Is the pairing somewhere on net???
scent [3k\]: i think cornel on adderall
noned [2d\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-pairing.txt
Katsuri [3k\]: cornel seems relaxed XD
]
;W[hi]
;B[gh]C[Dino9 [6d\]: THX NONED
Loons [4k\]: I just realized that "Koreans" is snark spelt backwards with an o and an e thrown in
Katsuri [3k\]: ahhhh viktor agaionst a korean XDD
scent [3k\]: lol
N4KED [1d\]: each side gets 3 hours???
Katsuri [3k\]: coool
N4KED [1d\]: oh 2.5 hours
cherisse [1k\]: o cornel stopped moving? guess he got tired...
WorldCop [2k\]: i think w good chances of winning atm
reprisal [4d?\]: loons>>you have very boring revelations
sufferable: lee changho is korean
Loons [4k\]: *Awesome revelations
]
;W[nn]C[altrecop [1k\]: rakuen como es que teneis este nivel en argentina, hay algo de immigracion asiatico relacionado con eso :? tengo curiosidad
reprisal [4d?\]: okay, you have a boring sense of awesome :)
scent [3k\]: honinbo shusaku is japanese
Loons [4k\]: yes, precisely
cherisse [1k\]: 3 hrs seems so long
wicket [-\]: Loons spelt backwards is 'no' with an s, o and l thrown in
Loons [4k\]: I am watching an ancient japanese boardgame
IEatCats [1d\]: f16?
Javaness [2d\]: this was big
Loons [4k\]: *chinese
reprisal [4d?\]: it's not even japanese
AllNewSad [3d\]: h8 for w
Loons [4k\]: *east asian
igravious [8k\]: H8
sameasyou [2d\]: h8
]
;B[hj]C[oov [-\]: go is not japanese game, it's american game.
sameasyou [2d\]: lol
igravious [8k\]: doh!
WorldCop [2k\]: wicket is wet spelled forwards wi...nvm
sameasyou [2d\]: Go is chinese
hej [?\]: It hasn't been proved to be Chinese either
inin [3d\]: lol
Loons [4k\]: Thus east asain
Loons [4k\]: *asian
N4KED [1d\]: black win is inevitable it seems
Dupaaxe [?\]: weiqi is :)
reprisal [4d?\]: generic is always nice and safe
hej [?\]: -_-
Katsuri [3k\]: seems over the game
Poney [2d\]: how big is the komi ?
sameasyou [2d\]: 6.5
A1R [4k\]: 6,5
]
;W[fd]C[WorldCop [2k\]: probably more, it's ing rules?
scent [3k\]: go was invented in the US, just like the steam engine and printing press
sufferable: go is the apple pie of japan.. that or ramen
oov [-\]: if ing rules, then 8
Wisp [20k\]: go was invented by aliens :P
sameasyou [2d\]: b14
reprisal [4d?\]: scent>>you forgot apple pie too
Katsuri [3k\]: ing rules i think 7,5 o__=
iBanker [3d\]: seems super close
]
;B[ni]C[A1R [4k\]: 8 komi
N4KED [1d\]: 8 but in tie black wins
A1R [4k\]: ?
oov [-\]: yes, 8 komi
WorldCop [2k\]: b14 ko seems big enough to play
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 6.5 japanese
A1R [4k\]: why?
A1R [4k\]: not ing?
oov [-\]: because thats how mr. ing wanted it
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: not top
madcow [1d\]: what does The Oracle say?
scent [3k\]: i'm sure there are some aliens that play go... but i bet they use a different type of scoring
igravious [8k\]: w win surely
shaula [1k\]: they don't have the stupid ing bowls for the stones, so probably japanese rules.
scent [3k\]: i'm sure that there are aliens that play hex
xinyil [2k\]: on paper W should win easily
IEatCats [1d\]: this is smart move too
WorldCop [2k\]: they have the stupid ing clock
reprisal [4d?\]: so is Mr Ing still alive?
RedEye [15k\]: B appears to be giving a schooling atm
oov [-\]: mr ing died...a while ago
reprisal [4d?\]: why do people enforce his stupid rules?
WorldCop [2k\]: to get funding
sameasyou [2d\]: how much time they still have?
IEatCats [1d\]: you know, ing rules say you can play japanese if both players agree
xinyil [2k\]: Burzo is over 100 GoR weaker than breakfst
reprisal [4d?\]: yeah but wouldn't the Ing foundation turn a blind eyes?
Katsuri [3k\]: euro how much time left
madcow [1d\]: BECOS HE PAID THEM TO DO IT
nedmunds: 38hrs, 17 mins
testtesttt [1d\]: ?
Katsuri [3k\]: ty
sameasyou [2d\]: so we will be here for at last another 1.5 hours
]
;W[mi]C[oov [-\]: when you become rich, you too can make your own rules
reprisal [4d?\]: seems given how much people hate the clocks and whatnot, rebellion would be more common
WorldCop [2k\]: 100 GoR is within margin of error
]
;B[nh]C[Katsuri [3k\]: fuck off the GoR
Pepijn [2d\]: mind your language
]
;W[rj]C[yithril [2d\]: this looks like a shutout
madcow [1d\]: can someone check The Oracle for the score?
]
;B[ri]C[WorldCop [2k\]: b+6.5
scent [3k\]: what means gor
A1R [4k\]: gorating
freffenber [1d\]: B + 6,5
]
;W[hm]
;B[hl]C[Yggdrasil [6k\]: ¿Quien ganó en la otra partida de Ilia?
xio [5k\]: b+19.5 now
sufferable: gor is short for gorating  . its a torture method
]
;W[in]C[Rakhartike [13k?\]: llia
mihi [6d\]: I think difference is bigger+B14
Rakhartike [13k?\]: ygg
mihi [6d\]: ...
Yggdrasil [6k\]: OK 
Yggdrasil [6k\]: THX :)
CalculusHK [15k\]: the live TV is so slow...lol
Rakhartike [13k?\]: gano w
xio [5k\]: b+12.5 after w move
Rakhartike [13k?\]: era llia no?
]
;B[bf]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
WorldCop [2k\]: by my count it's close
Yggdrasil [6k\]: creo q si
Yggdrasil [6k\]: era Ilia
N4KED [1d\]: gano las blancas
]
;W[il]C[altrecop [1k\]: algun argentinx?
Yggdrasil [6k\]: aqui español :)
]
;B[ae]C[Rakuen [7d\]: yo
Javaness [2d\]: omg
shaula [1k\]: f5?
altrecop [1k\]: te preguntaba antes rakuen
madcow [1d\]: Death 
RoryDix [3k\]: ups
xio [5k\]: I liked a15
]
;W[fo]
;B[go]
;W[en]
;B[gp]C[madcow [1d\]: g7 
Miley [1k?\]: cineva roman
altrecop [1k\]: que en argentina teneis mucho nivel, si es por algun rollo de immigracion asiatica de hace tiempo o es que soys freaks al máximo :D 
altrecop [1k\]: tengo curiosidad
Damien [10k\]: nu
fujichan [-\]: H9 no ?
]
;W[ij]C[donzet [?\]: white succeed to trouble black
fujichan [-\]: Tiens, salut fred
N4KED [1d\]: oh shit
xio [5k\]: ko?
Wisp [20k\]: h9?
Katsuri [3k\]: how old is cornel?
sameasyou [2d\]: 30
xio [5k\]: h9 g7
RoryDix [3k\]: born 1980
Katsuri [3k\]: thxs
Yggdrasil [6k\]: eso será por inmigracion xD
batubiru [3k?\]: h9 than enough
barty [2d\]: will be ko
igravious [8k\]: H9
sameasyou [2d\]: yup
Javaness [2d\]: i don't see any ko
Yggdrasil [6k\]: los españoles somos autodidactas :D.... Y ASÍ NOS VA Xd
WorldCop [2k\]: not ko
jia [3k\]: ko
altrecop [1k\]: es que se que en algunos paises de america latina si que llegaron bastantes japoeneses y tal
Ignatius [1k\]: h9 g7 
WorldCop [2k\]: j9
sameasyou [2d\]: g7 and ko
barty [2d\]: G9
harpo [?\]: k10
altrecop [1k\]: los catalanes he3mos aprendido con li yue y li ang :DDD
N4KED [1d\]: b dead?
Pepijn [2d\]: this looked a bit careless
Kare [-\]: k10
RoryDix [3k\]: white can turn the tables?
IEatCats [1d\]: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Rakuen [7d\]: con laburo 
]
;B[jj]C[ProoMas [13k\]: Alexandre = 1p right?
barty [2d\]: 3p
ProoMas [13k\]: oh
]
;W[hk]
;B[ji]C[altrecop [1k\]: laburo?
Dino9 [6d\]: shouldnt he take first?
madcow [1d\]: wow... K10 seems to do it
WorldCop [2k\]: quite the screwup
Javaness [2d\]: black uses back door
Goreon [2d\]: who wins?
ThaElf [-\]: Reading one number and letter behind the names seems too hard ;)
shaula [1k\]: lost some pointa in the process
Yggdrasil [6k\]: pues los anadluces
Yggdrasil [6k\]: solitos xD
Yggdrasil [6k\]: *Andaluces
xio [5k\]: b+12.5 still
WorldCop [2k\]: w+5
Wisp [20k\]: isnt b way ahead?
shaula [1k\]: well, black could play A15 in exchange of this
ProoMas [13k\]: ThaElf, it shows me "Alexandre Dinerch..."
Yggdrasil [6k\]: y hasta 6k con mucho orgullo :)
ProoMas [13k\]: so couldn't really read his rank
WorldCop [2k\]: b was ahead once upon a time
altrecop [1k\]: jaja lástima que  no lo inventaran los árabes o seriais los andaluces los mejores de europa
ThaElf [-\]: Enlarge a bit ;)
madcow [1d\]: looks like a bad connection... B might die
sufferable: b is starting to look dead
Yggdrasil [6k\]: :(
cherisse [1k\]: oh no :(
sufferable: but. so did gu li
]
;W[kd]C[madcow [1d\]: j13 j13 j13 j13 j13 
Pepijn [2d\]: don't panic
sufferable: worse than this infact
Bruno [1d\]: close
Bruno [1d\]: who won in the Antti game?
noned [2d\]: ilja
Pepijn [2d\]: the other guy
A1R [4k\]: ilya
Javaness [2d\]: ilya
cherisse [1k\]: but gu lived :)
Wisp [20k\]: llya
Bruno [1d\]: wow
xinyil [2k\]: there was a big fight
Javaness [2d\]: what is this move?
Pepijn [2d\]: hm just K14?
RoryDix [3k\]: what's L16 good for?
Javaness [2d\]: inviting L15
WorldCop [2k\]: b one tenuki too many
IEatCats [1d\]: k14
]
;B[ig]C[Bruno [1d\]: yeah wanted to cut the dragon
Javaness [2d\]: black connects nicely
madcow [1d\]: i got J13 correct... do i get VIP points?
]
;W[jf]
;B[if]C[WorldCop [2k\]: as much as you can carry
sufferable: looks like ko
petri [4k\]: Yes and you have to to Tampere tocollect them
Pepijn [2d\]: no ko, black is fine
donzet [?\]: white play hopless
ProoMas [13k\]: black disconnected?
Pepijn [2d\]: no
]
;W[kg]C[soliniec: fiu, fiu...
madcow [1d\]: h12 
A1R [4k\]: w wants ko
Rossk [-\]: ah
masli [18k\]: who's the bnervous wreck in the background?
Javaness [2d\]: why not J15
joachim [?\]: Ilja
A1R [4k\]: ilya
itepilah [1d\]: only hope..
Bruno [1d\]: ilya
ProoMas [13k\]: what if wJ15bL14wL15
masli [18k\]: he;s even dirstracting me!
stf7 [1k\]: shikshin
qgo [4k\]: b J11
ProoMas [13k\]: wJ15 bL14 wL15?
Miley [1k?\]: cnv roman
Billator [3d\]: j11 connects now
ProoMas [13k\]: hmm
Pepijn [2d\]: black has too many ways to connect now, complicated
shaula [1k\]: I would J11
wither [5k\]: sith master behind cornel
cherisse [1k\]: who will play on round 2? how are they paired?
kenjiro43 [6k\]: yeap
kenjiro43 [6k\]: :)
]
;B[jh]C[xio [5k\]: Proo, b l17 simply
madcow [1d\]: KO!!KO!KO!K!OK!O!
Pepijn [2d\]: ?
Pepijn [2d\]: no ko?
]
;W[ie]C[ProoMas [13k\]: see
stf7 [1k\]: xD
Bruno [1d\]: ko?
]
;B[kc]C[petri [4k\]: Pairing isbased on result i.e same anmpunt point (mcMahon ones) are paired together
Bruno [1d\]: in your dreams
madcow [1d\]: another revelation: KO! is koi upside down
ProoMas [13k\]: K14
]
;W[ke]C[ProoMas [13k\]: oh
AllNewSad [3d\]: m19 
Javaness [2d\]: semeai...
Pepijn [2d\]: who cares abuot those stones?
ProoMas [13k\]: L14
barty [2d\]: m19 
]
;B[la]C[RoryDix [3k\]: no ko
samowar [2d\]: :P
cherisse [1k\]: all groups safe!
xio [5k\]: b doesn't want the ko
]
;W[jc]C[Bruno [1d\]: s9 looks big
Pepijn [2d\]: well its simply small endgame
petri [4k\]: Ko is just few point
]
;B[mo]
;W[mp]C[shaula [1k\]: black saved everything, but white got a few points...
barty [2d\]: better sente
AllNewSad [3d\]: h2 
]
;B[rk]C[soliniec: :)
RoryDix [3k\]: clock starts speaking :-
]
;W[qj]
;B[sj]C[cherisse [1k\]: breakfast rocks at endgame...
Pepijn [2d\]: the clock is evil
ProoMas [13k\]: it says, 3 weeks, 15 hours, 54 minutes 21 seconds remaining
Wisp [20k\]: weeks?
ProoMas [13k\]: yea
Namastee [2d\]: cornel wins this
Bruno [1d\]: yes...it says I am hungry...I want go for lunch
NorthWind [5k\]: p11
Wisp [20k\]: wow, long game
Dino9 [6d\]: close game
oddalot [5k\]: back in the day that was still a short game
sufferable: does it count hours all the way up to the week?
Namastee [2d\]: b will win
deft [4d\]: F19 is 6pt gote
madcow [1d\]: these days, we want instant gratification
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i lost the order
deft [4d\]: pretty big
itepilah [1d\]: b+10
Doukan [3k\]: p11
madcow [1d\]: and replay of only the Great Moves
Bruno [1d\]: what you mean madcow?
shaula [1k\]: F19 -> answer, because then E17
ProoMas [13k\]: =(
shaula [1k\]: so F19 not good for white
madcow [1d\]: whatever u think i mean
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Cornel ahead?
RoryDix [3k\]: give us some moves EuroGoTV
deft [4d\]: that's why it is gote, shaula
ProoMas [13k\]: EuroGoTV just ask them to replay their last moves =D
IEatCats [1d\]: time to watch full screen
Pepijn [2d\]: haha
deft [4d\]: compare with B playing E19
Miley [1k?\]: tv4t
Miley [1k?\]: e4 vd\\\]n
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i will
RoryDix [3k\]: four time, it says
Pepijn [2d\]: this is exiting!
Bruno [1d\]: why?
Rossk [-\]: they've played g2, s1, p4, ...
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 1x60 sec
Pepijn [2d\]: maybe the game is already finished!
Idn [2d\]: humm, w ahead oO
Pepijn [2d\]: and we don't even know!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
IEatCats [1d\]: what ruleset is this??
bolbi [-\]: ask roln
Rossk [-\]: jap ruules
RoryDix [3k\]: ing I guess?
shaula [1k\]: Hey, don't lose track
sameasyou [2d\]: ?
GocchiSama [1d?\]: oh...it has begun,the congress!
IEatCats [1d\]: i hope it's not ing
madcow [1d\]: S1
shaula [1k\]: they are playing, Wurogo, wake up!
Aokame [2k?\]: i forgot egc, arghh
MaxMakinen [2k\]: japanese rules since its the top group
shaula [1k\]: *Eurogo
sameasyou [2d\]: a16?
RedEye [15k\]: whats happenikng
madcow [1d\]: S1
madcow [1d\]: S1
Miley [1k?\]: i love game i loe games
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Go Cornel!
madcow [1d\]: diner is overheated
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i lost track 5 minutes ago
NorthWind [5k\]: o13
xio [5k\]: d1
Darg [3d\]: w played k9 here i think
Wayoutwest: How much time do they have?
RedEye [15k\]: its stopped updating
Loons [4k\]: High levels play endgame fast hey
Rossk [-\]: i wish they would film a little more from the top so i could see the stones better...
IGoofy [1d\]: zoom closer to the board then
oddalot [5k\]: thx
IGoofy [1d\]: merci
Doukan [3k\]: ty
Rossk [-\]: there we go
Kour [4k\]: thanks
sufferable: yeah they have cameras like that to show the board from directly above
sufferable: its great
RoryDix [3k\]: thanks for zooming in
Doukan [3k\]: what about the moves ? 
Dino9 [6d\]: E19 6 points
saori [7k\]: who win ?
cherisse [1k\]: yey fullscreen but at this cases, chess pieces are more easy to follow :(
xio [5k\]: ??
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: moves will be updated after the game
ProoMas [13k\]: they're both counting points?
Goreon [2d\]: b leading by a very few?
nosferatu [5k\]: ??
ogolony [-\]: nuuudaaaa
RoryDix [3k\]: I can almost count it from here ^^
nosferatu [5k\]: whats going on?
GE [1d\]: looks like Black is having a comfortable win ?
altrecop [1k\]: no GE
Doukan [3k\]: they lost the track^^
xio [5k\]: ok, I finish watching after the game then
altrecop [1k\]: i think it's closed
CalculusHK [15k\]: why stopped?
sufferable: w resigned?
kilms: Cornel WIN)
GE [1d\]: comfortable doesn't mean big ...
madcow [1d\]: RIP: this is a game where Diner tried in futility to start Kos, and lost
yakotaki [-\]: w res
Doukan [3k\]: no the game is still on
kenjiro43 [6k\]: YES!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: still playing see live TV feed
CalculusHK [15k\]: still continue in live TV
angrybot [2k?\]: w res
shaula [1k\]: game is nearly finished, they are fighting a 1/2 point ko
Kickchon [?\]: they are playing Ko at K9
yakotaki [-\]: gg 
yakotaki [-\]: bye
CalculusHK [15k\]: i don't know why it stops...
Doukan [3k\]: might have lost the tarck
shaula [1k\]: wait, more than 1/2 point
Bruno [1d\]: why later ...put the moves tvgo
oddalot [5k\]: cornel has a stone hopper lol
Bruno [1d\]: geez!
barty [2d\]: there is ko for kioll h11 and j10 now
FrodosGban [9k?\]: give link plz
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game (+betting on the next move) on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
FrodosGban [9k?\]: thx
shaula [1k\]: they are playing ko at K9, the fact is that white is in atari with an empty triangle at G11 J11 J10
Mikki62 [2k\]: is there a fly on o3?
FrodosGban [9k?\]: lin
FrodosGban [9k?\]: link
FrodosGban [9k?\]: ...
kilms: T11
yakotaki [-\]: mosqito on s4 
Bruno [1d\]: takoyaki...
FrodosGban [9k?\]: oh  logging in now^^^?
Bruno [1d\]: octopues meal!
RankLower [2d\]: e 17 ?
FrodosGban [9k?\]: euro stopping feed for us to logg in :D
oddalot [5k\]: wth kinda outfit is he wearing
hvk [-\]: ?
Kickchon [?\]: bigger ko now
Bruno [1d\]: its not fair...all this waiting for not see the yose
o3epo [1k\]: who won?
Doukan [3k\]: when will be the next round?
ProoMas [13k\]: R18 alive?
Javaness [2d\]: white took all the yose
Kickchon [?\]: dead
ProoMas [13k\]: ok
snowmen [3d\]: already clear, who wins, no need for yose
Aokame [2k?\]: what was cornels kgs account again?
Javaness [2d\]: cornel
hatego [4k\]: Is this the Euro congress?
xinyil [2k\]: yes
Aokame [2k?\]: oh, y javaness
hatego [4k\]: Ahh, didn't know it started already.
Javaness [2d\]: does it say euro go congress at the top? :)
adhitthana [2d\]: game stillgoing on?
hatego [4k\]: How many rounds are left?
bikle [5k\]: Who won this game ?
Dino9 [6d\]: 9
hatego [4k\]: Sorry, Java, I can't read.
MaxMakinen [2k\]: they're still playing
Doukan [3k\]: not finished yet, bikle
MaxMakinen [2k\]: alexandre is in byoyumi
CalculusHK [15k\]: yeah
Wayoutwest: http://www.egc2010.fi/
bikle [5k\]: Ok the are still playing, thanks
Javaness [2d\]: the relayer was distracted for some reason
MaxMakinen [2k\]: cornel doesnt seem to be, but they're just fighting about last 0,5 point kos i think
Javaness [2d\]: he is about 25 moves behind
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 50
Javaness [2d\]: :)
Xodd [15k\]: looks like it's almost over
kukulis4 [2d\]: wow, black in good shape
Pepijn [2d\]: this is really tense
shaula [1k\]: now they are fighting a 1/2 point ko
harpo [?\]: it is very close
yakotaki [-\]: where ?
cherisse [1k\]: haha i love how cornerl looked on breakfast before he played that stone
Pepijn [2d\]: the is like following world cup soccer on the radio
Kickchon [?\]: n13
sohigh [1k\]: Will there be broadcasts of the other top games ? (:
madcow [1d\]: *shoots relayer
Bruno [1d\]: why eurogo...you need a camera on top of the board..like in japan television
quatsch: has the translation been stopped?
donzet [?\]: they are playing a ko for 1,5 pts
o3epo [1k\]: won Cornel 
sohigh [1k\]: I`d love to see the koreans ;D
A1R [4k\]: ^^
A1R [4k\]: ~~
Bruno [1d\]: in japan the games have camera on top!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: go to Japan
shaula [1k\]: might be a last ko in the T1 corner after that
Bruno [1d\]: very pro dude
cherisse [1k\]: lol
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Go Cornel!
SqueezeIt [2d\]: who is ahead? I can't see the stream..
Xodd [15k\]: lol 
dog [2d\]: b
cherisse [1k\]: EuroGoTV on the ceiling...
donzet [?\]: white think he is ahead
SqueezeIt [2d\]: thx
mooooo [7k\]: dinnerchtein not as strong as a korean pro
Bruno [1d\]: ok, no suggestions allowed
Aokame [2k?\]: did they changed something? that we see two europeans on boeard 1?
kalia [1d\]: w losing by 10
o3epo [1k\]: who won, Cornel?
donzet [?\]: he didn't fight for this ko
theripper [1d\]: w clearly behind
A1R [4k\]: 1st round
dog [2d\]: w is sandbagging
Doukan [3k\]: when will the 2nd start?
A1R [4k\]: we will see the koreans soon enough
Aokame [2k?\]: tomorrow doukan
Kickchon [?\]: now t1 ko
Katsuri [3k\]: tomorrow ^^
Doukan [3k\]: oh
OttosMops [5d?\]: tomorrow
Doukan [3k\]: okay
bolbi [-\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/schedule.php
StefanRadu [1k\]: maniana
Doukan [3k\]: thanks ^^
cherisse [1k\]: about same time tomorrow?
mur [1k\]: hey guys, where is the translation?
shaula [1k\]: game finished
Kickchon [?\]: over
Aokame [2k?\]: eurogotv, are you replaying the game? i eman how many borad?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: last dame flled
Poney [2d\]: what's the result ?
MaxMakinen [2k\]: theyre counting now
Kickchon [?\]: counting
Mukti [4d\]: B seems  about 7 points ahead to me.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: counting
Aokame [2k?\]: boards*
A1R [4k\]: countin
Xodd [15k\]: they're counting now
fatihsulak [-\]: 3,5 to me 
RoryDix [3k\]: cornel looks happy
Pepijn [2d\]: well it is nice to play go
MonkeyFool [15k\]: he's probably happy its over
MonkeyFool [15k\]: he looked bored for a long while there
N4KED [1d\]: cornel is very fast with the stones
cherisse [1k\]: OMG ><
Katsuri [3k\]: nice start for cornel ^^
ProoMas [13k\]: breakfast won?
A1R [4k\]: w 19,5
mooooo [7k\]: w has nothing
cherisse [1k\]: b has bigger spaces :)
donzet [?\]: black won
Xodd [15k\]: b won
hatego [4k\]: Breakfast always wins, it is the key meal of a healthy diet.
Katsuri [3k\]: big viktory XD
sameasyou [2d\]: how many?
GE [1d\]: looks close actually
mooooo [7k\]: cornel won
yoyoma [1d\]: wat???
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B+0.5
GE [1d\]: heh
N4KED [1d\]: cool
Q161 [?\]: wowwwww
MaxMakinen [2k\]: 0,5 for cornel it seems
Javaness [2d\]: wow wow wowo
barty [2d\]: cornel win
kenjiro43 [6k\]: YES!
ayr [1d\]: !!!!!!!!
hatego [4k\]: Thanks, Euro.
Pepijn [2d\]: only 0.5?
Darg [3d\]: lol
itepilah [1d\]: oh no
shaula [1k\]: really?
SqueezeIt [2d\]: nice
Javaness [2d\]: nice work cornel
WorldCop [2k\]: wow
cherisse [1k\]: whoa O_O
Kratzdrink [1d\]: 1,5?
Dino9 [6d\]: nice
StefanRadu [1k\]: =))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
SqueezeIt [2d\]: congratz
donzet [?\]: black +2.5
crizz [2k\]: Congrats, Cornel!!!
yoyoma [1d\]: omg
Wisp [20k\]: beat a pro ^^
kukulis4 [2d\]: only 0.5 ?
ProoMas [13k\]: nice
ProoMas [13k\]: =D
Kickchon [?\]: 19,5 to 20
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B+0.5
mooooo [7k\]: 0.5 caus of komi
SciSan [5k?\]: weel done
sameasyou [2d\]: wow
Dino9 [6d\]: very ggg
Javaness [2d\]: please tell cornel to drink a bear
Mikki62 [2k\]: :)
Pepijn [2d\]: wow thats close
Katsuri [3k\]: nice xD
Mukti [4d\]: Wow, how did w get so close?
kukulis4 [2d\]: Cornel realy happy :D
Q161 [?\]: javaness that sounds dangerous
tudor11 [2k\]: congratulation, Cornel
Pepijn [2d\]: breakfast came back pretty good then
nsysu [3d\]: B+ Lucky
hatego [4k\]: Drink a bear? Sounds difficult.
Katsuri [3k\]: komi 7,5 ???
Q161 [?\]: what if the bear eats him?
Loons [4k\]: Yes, tell Cornel to drink a bear
RoryDix [3k\]: a BEAR?
kenjiro43 [6k\]: YES!
sohigh [1k\]: Nice comeback by white ! 
wither [5k\]: lol i just realized now that white is 3p not 3d
Aokame [2k?\]: what are official account of egc here on kgs?
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Good work Cornel!
SqueezeIt [2d\]: how was the game silt-kachanovskyi?
Karnesun [5d\]: Cornel is cool!
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Thank you Euro!
Kour [4k\]: cornel and breakfast
Yggdrasil [6k\]: who win?
Idn [2d\]: ça c'est fait ! ;) gg cornel
Pepijn [2d\]: thanks Harry
itepilah [1d\]: nice chase by Alexandre
yithril [2d\]: wait whats happening?
deft [4d\]: tell Cornel to drink a Karhu
yithril [2d\]: did someone win?
Pepijn [2d\]: yes
Javaness [2d\]: I want to know how popic did
Kour [4k\]: cornel won by 0.5
Yggdrasil [6k\]: who won?
cherisse [1k\]: nice game, breakfast came this close too :)
o3epo [1k\]: EuroGoTV1, who won on 2-d table? Ilia or Antti
Yggdrasil [6k\]: ok
Karnesun [5d\]: How play Artem?
A1R [4k\]: breakfast looks engry
N4KED [1d\]: maybe dinerchtien puposly lost by 0.5 cause he knows he is going to destroy everybody else
Pepijn [2d\]: the black guy won
A1R [4k\]: angry*
bartosz [-\]: how did mero?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Ilia
shikashogi [10k\]: illa won
CalculusHK [15k\]: cornel looks really happy
MaxMakinen [2k\]: dinerchtein doesn't look at all happy
Kaizoku3 [2k\]: breakfast is crying?
Kour [4k\]: anti resigned
wither [5k\]: lol cornel just flipped him off
Pepijn [2d\]: it's his natural expression when losing
wither [5k\]: on the bpoard pointing
shaula [1k\]: online HTML page with results exists? Do you have an URL?
erna [7k\]: How did Pop?
atomix [1d\]: he may have lost the title here
Aokame [2k?\]: last years we had egc accounts here on kgs
papadog [?\]: how was the game silt-kachanovskyi?
Larrave [1d\]: i dont think so atomix
maligo [-\]: thank you eurogotv
Loons [4k\]: "
o3epo [1k\]: thanks
A1R [4k\]: cornell will play 7dan tomorrow i suppose
Javaness [2d\]: thanks eurogotv
N4KED [1d\]: Thanks eurogo
SqueezeIt [2d\]: how was the game silt-kachanovskyi?
IGoofy [1d\]: w lost on intention to get better SOS points
donzet [?\]: thx
MaxMakinen [2k\]: shaula, i doubt results be up before toda late in the evening or tommorow in the morning.. since at least in earlier years egc tournaments, you've had time to give in your result untill like 8 in the evening
shaula [1k\]: ok, thank you Max
MaxMakinen [2k\]: and after that the papers need to be input into the pairing system etc.. so it takes time with 200 games
cherisse [1k\]: exciting match, thanks eurogotv
Aokame [2k?\]: only 2 boards this time eurogotv?
A1R [4k\]: alex in on laptop :P
Aokame [2k?\]: how many do you broadcast? also are you the only one or have we offical egc accounts too?
Aokame [2k?\]: last years we had like 5 boards
Mikki62 [2k\]: can they finish the game for us?
Xodd [15k\]: is white tallking about burning the game report?? lol
ProoMas [13k\]: =D
IEatCats [1d\]: seems so
Kour [4k\]: are they reporting to igs or something?`
shaula [1k\]: They are trying to remember the moves...
Aokame [2k?\]: cant nobody answer?
Mikki62 [2k\]: what choise of wooorrrds!
madcow [1d\]: ok... now for the urine test
madcow [1d\]: it aint over
Aokame [2k?\]: egc 2008 we had5! boradcastes here
Mikki62 [2k\]: using f words..... :S
ProoMas [13k\]: yea
ProoMas [13k\]: he said "we played this fucking ko"
A1R [4k\]: they should broadcast board 1 to 5
ProoMas [13k\]: =D
Mikki62 [2k\]: do u need to repeat?
mooooo [7k\]: is there as site for results?
Mikki62 [2k\]: ts ts ts
mooooo [7k\]: of the other boards
Miley [1k?\]: nice game i love game i love games
Kour [4k\]: they don't agree on what was played. :)
Mikki62 [2k\]: :O
Mikki62 [2k\]: again
vandrei [11k\]: how many time remained for players
A1R [4k\]: its over vandrei
Xodd [15k\]: are they reviewing the game on the computer?
Xodd [15k\]: i hear lots of clicking
Darg [3d\]: w played k9 here iirc
Kour [4k\]: 4x60 byoyomi for dinerchtein, 1 hour for cornel
vandrei [11k\]: breakfast vs cornel
Mikki62 [2k\]: nooooowwwww!!!!
Mikki62 [2k\]: I want to see!
Miley [1k?\]: i love you
Mikki62 [2k\]: thx
vandrei [11k\]: w resign and b wins right
A1R [4k\]: no
]
;W[gr]
;B[fr]C[vandrei [11k\]: aa not over
Mikki62 [2k\]: b + .5
]
;W[hr]C[Miley [1k?\]: mikki do u want to play go  with me?
]
;B[no]
;W[jk]C[Mikki62 [2k\]: yeahhhh
]
;B[kj]
;W[mg]C[Miley [1k?\]: k
]
;B[ng]C[Kour [4k\]: it is over, this is a late report on how the moves went.
]
;W[oj]C[Mikki62 [2k\]: but..... sry no time
]
;B[oi]
;W[rs]
;B[cd]C[Mikki62 [2k\]: #lunch in 15 min
]
;W[ad]C[Mikki62 [2k\]: later... ok?
]
;B[af]
;W[de]
;B[cf]C[Miley [1k?\]: wait for this game to end
]
;W[bc]C[itepilah [1d\]: when is next broadcasting?
]
;B[ee]
;W[ed]
;B[gf]C[A1R [4k\]: tomorrow
]
;W[hg]
;B[hh]C[Kour [4k\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/schedule.php
]
;W[ii]
;B[ik]C[itepilah [1d\]: thx
]
;W[fa]C[A1R [4k\]: look on eurogotv
]
;B[ih]C[A1R [4k\]: profile
]
;W[jk]
;B[ia]C[lgiulian [1k\]: thank you Harry for this
]
;W[sr]
;B[sp]
;W[ge]
;B[oo]
;W[op]C[Wayoutwest: B e15 better at e19?
]
;B[mm]
;W[on]
;B[ik]
;W[oa]
;B[qa]
;W[jk]
;B[cs]
;W[bs]
;B[ik]
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;B[nj]
;W[nk]
;B[ik]
;W[na]
;B[ma]
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;B[ds]
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;W[hj]
;B[gk]
;W[fn]
;B[gm]
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;B[hn]
;W[jk]
;B[br]
;W[ar]
;B[ik]
;W[im]
;B[dl]
;W[gg]
;B[fg]
;W[al]
;B[ak]
;W[am]
;B[mh]
;W[jd]
;B[lg]
;W[pi]
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;W[mg]
;B[kh]
;W[lg]
;B[li]
;W[lj]
;B[oe]
;W[pk]
;B[pi]
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;B[sq]
;W[qs]
;B[ss]
;W[nd]
;B[ki]
;W[jk]
;B[sr]
;W[ik]
;B[ll]C[tapir [1k\]: Yes looks like that Wayoutwest. Cornel said he played the endgame fast on purpose ... and there is more than one endgame mistake by black
]
;W[]
;B[]C[vandrei [11k\]: wow lol
shikashogi [10k\]: white lost because they didnt play n6?
xinyil [2k\]: missed something on the bootom
vandrei [11k\]: B+0.5
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thats it
Mikki62 [2k\]: thx
xinyil [2k\]: *bottom
lgiulian [1k\]: thx
Xodd [15k\]: ty
crizz [2k\]: great game :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: cu all tomorrow morning
itepilah [1d\]: thx but bottom right was white
Wayoutwest: very exciting game
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: meanwhile collect as many VIP-points as you can for the betting game!!!!
Kour [4k\]: the board was turned 90°
itepilah [1d\]: it douesn't matter though
fujichan [-\]: B win by 0,5 ? 
vandrei [11k\]: yes
Woodstock [-\]: betting game?
WorldCop [2k\]: he mixed up the filled kos
fujichan [-\]: Ok, thanks =)
IEatCats [1d\]: can continue spying on eurogo from the cameras
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