(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[9000]OT[1x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Go Congress 2010 board 2 round 6]PW[Kyoung-nang Kang]PB[Alexandr Dinerstein]WR[7d]BR[3p]DT[2010-08-02]RO[6]PC[Tampere, Finland]US[Liselot]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: goodmorning
StefanRadu [1k\]: ola:)
A1R [4k\]: good morning...whos our today game replayer :P ?
A1R [4k\]: recorder*
GoannaEmu [8k\]: Hi Euro - thanks for putting it up!
epoxygal [3k\]: video?
A1R [4k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
epoxygal [3k\]: kang, pls win that marketing guy
epoxygal [3k\]: thx A1R
NorthWind [5k\]: yikes, a B stone appeared out of nowhere
ZothOmmog [4k\]: I bet eurotv2's middle name is mike.
falientje [9k\]: breakfast played the first move already...
epoxygal [3k\]: how come the video say it's csaba vs antti?
StefanRadu [1k\]: they forgot to replace the descroption.,
epoxygal [3k\]: ic
StefanRadu [1k\]: description, yes
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;B[pp]C[radishimo [4k\]: is kang still undefeated
beefree: why did he play bottom right?
crizz [2k\]: Go Kang !!
radishimo [4k\]: and who did breakfast lose to?
Lentyi [1d\]: Go Alex =)
zife [6k\]: radishimo kang lost to shikshin
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: refresh the broadcasting
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: desrcipton is ok. now
edlee [1k\]: Good morning, EuroGoTV2 :)
Larrave [1d\]: he lost to cornel
radishimo [4k\]: how is artem doing
radishimo [4k\]: still 1 loss?
NorthWind [5k\]: round 1 , Cornel, 0.5 pt
epoxygal [3k\]: descrip show csaba vs kang
radishimo [4k\]: erm.. it says csaba mero vs kang
Sjonny [8k\]: its wrong
zife [6k\]: yeah just 1 loss radi
Sjonny [8k\]: scroll up
zife [6k\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-results.txt <- for future reference
grumpyjoe [-\]: cool
Larrave [1d\]: catalin lost 2
Larrave [1d\]: or?
radishimo [4k\]: i have no idea what these results mean
Canon [5k\]: good morning Harry. and to all..
zife [6k\]: the columns after "MMS" are rounds
zasdasas: how catalin lost?
edlee [1k\]: Hi EuroGoTV2 -- would it be possible to relay from Black's perspective, instead of sideways? (upper right star point?)  :)
zife [6k\]: the number means opponent's current placement and +/- is the result
zasdasas: he lost for mingjiu?
zife [6k\]: + is win naturally
Rufalin [6k?\]: anyway to record this?
Canon [5k\]: problem; here we have KN vs AD,,,,on euro tv we have  Mero C vs KN...
zasdasas: is q4 right position?
ArcticDawn [5k\]: ! not top right?!?!
alexanderp [?\]: could you please post Ustream link for those who can't register at eurogotv?
zasdasas: i think eurogo is showing this different
zasdasas: maybe he is 15k and cant invert =/
radishimo [4k\]: maybe go is the same no matter which corner you play in first
zasdasas: i think q4 is showed in alexandr dinerstein position q16
radishimo [4k\]: the goban doesnt have numbers on it
wither [5k\]: woah board 2 is way more interesting than board 1 right now! lol
ZothOmmog [4k\]: one is polite, the other is rude
radishimo [4k\]: do you see numbers? i dont
Higanbana [?\]: we are looking at the board from white's chair
zasdasas: no ones rude
zasdasas: only you
radishimo [4k\]: why is it rude to play in a different corner?
zasdasas: okey
radishimo [4k\]: it's the same thing
Higanbana [?\]: oh wait no we aren't
ZothOmmog [4k\]: tradition
zasdasas: ok censored 
zasdasas: ;)
radishimo [4k\]: stupid tradition
zife [6k\]: I wouldn't call it rude but it's traditional to play on the top right corner
radishimo [4k\]: who cares
zasdasas: god so flooder
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: dinerstein plays in the "polite" corner
zasdasas: hehe^^
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i just broadcast different
Higanbana [?\]: playing in the top right corner is like bowing to your opponent (because you reach across the board)
ZothOmmog [4k\]: k10 is the most rude position to play first
zasdasas: he played but eurogo just not showing good vision =.=
ZothOmmog [4k\]: well, third
feyodora [15k\]: link pleease
feyodora [15k\]: :-)
hottttttt: t1 is the most
Canon [5k\]: Harry, Csaba cann't play on both boards..:) like on eurogo 1 and 2;)
feyodora [15k\]: is it live?
namassst: 10 buk in B
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i already changed
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: just refresh
Canon [5k\]: oki sorry
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: it's live yes
hottttttt: anyway can you throw stones to the corner
NorthWind [5k\]: yeah, Csaba playing a simul
HKitty [3d?\]: Kang's time must be running...
A1R [4k\]: xD
hottttttt: why does move 2 take so long?
wither [5k\]: lolol simul csaba
HlFl [-\]: Kang late again?l!?
epoxygal [3k\]: why is the black stone there?
hottttttt: lol
alexanderp [?\]: can anyone post ustream link of this game?
yamashitaK [5d\]: go Kang !!!
namassst: becouse eurogo dont know how to invert i think
feyodora [15k\]: kang kang kang!!!
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;W[pd]C[Higanbana [?\]: oh now it will be funny if black doesn't realize she showed up
wither [5k\]: gooo breakfast
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;B[cp]C[falientje [9k\]: common kyoung nang!!!
wither [5k\]: yuuu giii ohhh!
A1R [4k\]: could you siwtch off the sound pls?
ogre [2d?\]: cant beleave i woke up right on time for this
A1R [4k\]: :)
notbert [7k\]:  thats unrespectful of kang.
Neocon [?\]: is there a stream where i dont have to be a member?
ogre [2d?\]: stayed up until 6 am wathing the usgo game
namassst: b+RES
mur [1k\]: hey, EurogoTV
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ellooo
namassst: eurogo change this position please
mur [1k\]: you have wrong title at eurogotv
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;W[dd]
;B[iq]C[mur [1k\]: this is not Csaebo Mero vs Kang
namassst: yes
namassst: its wrong
yamashitaK [5d\]: oh no chinese opening
Canon [5k\]: :)
alexanderp [?\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/EuroGoTV2
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i asked eurogotv1 to change
yamashitaK [5d\]: its so boring
Neocon [?\]: i want t see kang's hotbody
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: he said he did
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i dunno how to change
namassst: who the hell is csaebo?
falientje [9k\]: csaba
epoxygal [3k\]: wonder what trick moves alex has under his sleves
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Top hungarian player
alexanderp [?\]: Go, Sasha, Go
DeathWind [1k\]: Breakfast's playing?
namassst: no
ogre [2d?\]: mini chinese > chinese
NorthWind [5k\]: yes
epoxygal [3k\]: he loves tricks and marketing. lol i paid for his moves
namassst: thats an ilusion^^
namassst: --"
namassst: f3^^
namassst: i mean f4
namassst: :))
Neocon [?\]: broadcaster is lazy, board is turned 90degree
epoxygal [3k\]: at least alex is not as angry looking as ilya that day
namassst: god
namassst: i mean e4
namassst: sorry
namassst: lol
wither [5k\]: this way is best
ogre [2d?\]: d6 or d7
wither [5k\]: because iu can instantly see the board and the webcam
wither [5k\]: and make them correspond
Canon [5k\]: but Ilya won:)
namassst: e4 is played by cho ch... fuseki
alexanderp [?\]: Alexander is calm and confident.
Neocon [?\]: ilya "straight-jacket"
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;W[dm]C[gisel [3d\]: seems after losing to Ilya Kang decided to think a bit in her games ;)
HlFl [-\]: who is Catalin playing this round?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Laura Avram
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Romanian 2d
falientje [9k\]: she was very disapointed when she lost to shiksin
DeathWind [1k\]: she look so different today, with glasses on o-o
NorthWind [5k\]: Dogalin
FluffyCat [?\]: y is this game moving so slow
Canon [5k\]: ?!
namassst: why 3p is playing so careless?
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;B[ep]C[koha [1d\]: why is this game moving so fast ;-)
Neocon [?\]: Go Mother Russia!
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;W[dj]C[Dupaaxe [?\]: a thinking one :)
yamashitaK [5d\]: namasst what are you talking ?
FluffyCat [?\]: lol
namassst: b can win on stint
namassst: ;)
namassst: easy game ---
WorldCop [3k\]: this is quite slow for such a boring opening
namassst: mini chinese sucks
deeb [9k\]: yes
HlFl [-\]: Go Father Korea!
Canon [5k\]: :))
WorldCop [3k\]: doesn't look so mini to me...
goth [?\]: dinerstein is not russian
Neocon [?\]: u high?
A1R [4k\]: ?
pirate [?\]: this is not the mini chinese fuseki
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;B[fc]C[snowman [-\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-pairing-r6.txt
FluffyCat [?\]: so this is real time moves?
zaxj: Go Santa Claus!
FluffyCat [?\]: not just replay/
namassst: no
aeckertson [16k\]: disentary rocks my socks 
N4KED [1d\]: low chinese
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;W[hc]C[namassst: its a delay 5sec peer move
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Santa rulleezzzzz!!!!
BlueSpark [11k\]: he is a player from Russia
FluffyCat [?\]: o
snowman [-\]: and http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live
DeathWind [1k\]: pirate, so study more pro games, this shape is common
namassst: lol
Goleath [1k\]: Kyong looked displeased with her own move at H17 on the vid ;)
Trivia [2k?\]: it's common but not mini chinese dw
Goleath [1k\]: shook her head right after
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;B[cc]
;W[cd]C[namassst: snowman..  if 3p play whit Emil Riedeman  would be ridiculous no?
]
;B[dc]C[HKitty [3d?\]: How many pro games have you studied, DW?
]
;W[ed]C[ogre [2d?\]: what game is the kibitzer watching?
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;B[fd]C[HKitty [3d?\]: oohh ahhh
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Real-Bayern
kenjiro43 [6k\]: :D
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;W[ec]
;B[eb]
;W[db]
;B[cb]
;W[fb]
;B[da]C[Oleksandr [1k\]: ...
namassst: f15
HKitty [3d?\]: g18
Kanin [-\]: dinerstein wnats to play g16?
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;W[fe]
;B[gb]
;W[gd]
;B[fa]C[Kanin [-\]: aaw, how boring
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;W[gf]C[alexanderp [?\]: this game is very different from Ilya's vs Kang. Calm, a bit slow, b is confident, plays fast...
alexanderp [?\]: no semeai
beefree: seems bad for b
Trivia [2k?\]: dinerstein likes territory
WorldCop [3k\]: this is still pro fuseki
pirate [?\]: Deathwind; http://senseis.xmp.net/?MiniChineseVariants
]
;B[qf]C[ogre [2d?\]: very peaceful game 
namassst: r14 good^^
HlFl [-\]: Alexandr is a stone staightener.  bless him.
N4KED [1d\]: black actually has a small advantage but probably equal
Kanin [-\]: why 
Neocon [?\]: q14
HKitty [3d?\]: Kang always seems to get behind
namassst: q10
H16 [1d\]: seems like the second board will finish before the 1st even starts
Larrave [1d\]: q11?
alexanderp [?\]: Breakfast has different style than Ilya. If he has +5 points he won't lose them till the end:)
Kanin [-\]: hmm, white missed timing to play g17?
Neocon [?\]: no need
heirophany [14k\]: where can i see the kang v ilya game?
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;W[ph]C[WorldCop [3k\]: on eurogotv1, once it starts
WorldCop [3k\]: kang vs ilya is over already though
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ilya isn't here yet
Larrave [1d\]: :)
Blitzcore [3d\]: via time machine
Trivia [2k?\]: look at EuroGoTV1's game recored
snowman [-\]: kang vs. ilya is in the archives
namassst: now some actions 
HlFl [-\]: last week
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;B[of]
;W[nd]
;B[rd]
;W[qc]
;B[rh]
;W[qn]C[HKitty [3d?\]: b looks good
Q161 [?\]: wow this game is going fast
namassst: b plays fast
snowman [-\]: http://www.gokgs.com/archives.jsp and EuroGoTV1 or EuroGoTV2
kimball [4d?\]: b will never force with g17, and as long as there is the cut e15 b will answer w g17 if needed
A1R [4k\]: q9?
kenjiro43 [6k\]: strange looking shape b has on the right
Blitzcore [3d\]: i think w also :)
Neocon [?\]: fast because no fight yet
yamashitaK [5d\]: what a boring game  untill now ...
apadox [8k\]: just wait
yamashitaK [5d\]: they just play some josekis
grumpyjoe [-\]: try this worldcop - http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=SGF#n1
WorldCop [3k\]: hm? i think you have me confused.
namassst: after b will start punish w weird moves
Trivia [2k?\]: Kang is so annooying only Ilya could match her in annoyance value
Blitzcore [3d\]: weird moves? which
namassst: this one is bad
Sjonny [8k\]: She is 7 dan for a good reason, weird moves or not
NorthWind [5k\]: annoying ? why ?
H16 [1d\]: no weird moves untill now...
ogre [2d?\]: what weard moves
Blitzcore [3d\]: ilya is far ahead in annoyance points
feyodora [15k\]: lol
epoxygal [3k\]: nama, this is called the marketing ploy
HlFl [-\]: what in the world do you find annoying about Kang?
N4KED [1d\]: Ms. Kang and Diner are both reasonable players so it will be hard to get things going
feyodora [15k\]: annoying in agooood way
kryft [1k\]: All moves seem normal so far.
ZothOmmog [4k\]: white is looking for a fight
Higanbana [?\]: what ranking system is her 7d? what is alexandr in that system?
kenjiro43 [6k\]: I would like to see russian roulette: Alex against Ilia
Effem [3k\]: Alex is a great teacher... He costs a lot but he teaches very well
epoxygal [3k\]: in one previous tournament, alex was so mean
namassst: n3.....
yamashitaK [5d\]: if b will not play o4 he has no idea 
yamashitaK [5d\]: ....
HKitty [3d?\]: mean?
ogre [2d?\]: very peaceful also
Q161 [?\]: what did he do epox?
epoxygal [3k\]: after winning poppy, he said to viewers, "sorry for the boring game"
HKitty [3d?\]: lol
wither [5k\]: :O
HlFl [-\]: Ilya is the king of annoyance but he can't help it.
Q161 [?\]: hahaha
HKitty [3d?\]: maybe it really was boring
namassst: q6.... too
Larrave [1d\]: alex just keeps his games as simple as possible:)
ZothOmmog [4k\]: tenuki
epoxygal [3k\]: poppy's game is already steady enuf though
HKitty [3d?\]: o4
Talus [13k\]: I like the pincer at r8- supports the stones above as well
namassst: r8 weird heavy
kryft [1k\]: epoxygal, How was that mean?
epoxygal [3k\]: he was saying poppy was boring
ZothOmmog [4k\]: q9
Blitzcore [3d\]: o4 looks very very normal, but is there sthg better?
NorthWind [5k\]: nah this is fuseki, the bit you usually miss out :P
ZothOmmog [4k\]: q9 is the move
iancho [1d\]: no video here - is broadcast on?
namassst: its offline
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: offline?
ogre [2d?\]: o4 w r9
Q161 [?\]: can we see video eurogo?
kryft [1k\]: epoxygal, Erm, it seems more likely that he would be apologizing for his territorial playing style.
A1R [4k\]: i see all:)
namassst: yes for some countryes becouse stream blocked some 
Higanbana [?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
namassst: stram really sucking..
namassst: :(
epoxygal [3k\]: kryft, maybe but the way he said it was like saying poppy was boring
asasaasa: fan hui is dead?
monkeyDgo [3k\]: P5
ogre [2d?\]: n4 r9 s4 ?
kryft [1k\]: epoxygal, Ok, but I still very much doubt he meant that. :)
Higanbana [?\]: P5 -> R3?
Aquarius [5k?\]: r6 looks strange to me, white cant expect much in this area, cant he?
Neocon [?\]: ilya more interesting on stream in his invisible straight-jacket
HKitty [3d?\]: she
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;B[qp]C[Trivia [2k?\]: wow
ZothOmmog [4k\]: white can expect stuff
HlFl [-\]: Ilya on the scene!
HKitty [3d?\]: ooo, 20k move
kryft [1k\]: Aquarius, If white doesn't play there, black can expect a lot
namassst: wow this move
ogre [2d?\]: this is more exciting
Goleath [1k\]: Illia has arrived :-)
namassst: i will do it more times now
namassst: =/
Effem [3k\]: 20k move? thats like 20 points
namassst: oh.... eurogo missclicked
namassst: hahaa
namassst: jk
HKitty [3d?\]: sometimes 20k playes great moves
Trivia [2k?\]: no this is more like 10k move
wither [5k\]: does ilya have a cold? he doesnt look well
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yeah i think he has a cold
ogre [2d?\]: p6 o4 r10 ?
epoxygal [3k\]: why is this a good move? let's analyse
grumpyjoe [-\]: thats what he gets for beating kang
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: his nose is very red =D
shihu [9k\]: fund a mentals
Trivia [2k?\]: did i hear coughing?
Blitzcore [3d\]: hm o4 leaves 2 invasion points behind; pincering r6 you may end up with s12 completeley worthless?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: n4
FluffyCat [?\]: what site has the live video
namassst: becouse w cant play o3
wither [5k\]: if eurogo misclicks, the players have to change their moves to match
wither [5k\]: thats a rule
namassst: he need r9 or something
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;W[og]C[kryft [1k\]: This move is joseki in some situations, and perhaps this is one of those cases. :)
HKitty [3d?\]: r4 is brilliant
kryft [1k\]: It seems natural enough
namassst: r4 is perfect omg :/ its a 9p move
wither [5k\]: ilya looks like a poor sick orphan and his opponent is tall strong man
]
;B[nf]
;W[qg]C[A1R [4k\]: is that popic`?
epoxygal [3k\]: if black pincers from the R8 direction, it will end up over concentrated. if black answers at the O4 direction, white settles easily
namassst: w so agressive
]
;B[rg]C[epoxygal [3k\]: so the best way is to take points and see what white does
Neocon [?\]: link to ilya stream?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: q14
]
;W[pf]C[FunGoSage [2k\]: ko?
iancho [1d\]: I have no stream, is there a problem with Germany?
]
;B[pe]
;W[pg]C[jim [6d\]: no kodate for white
ZothOmmog [4k\]: yep
WorldCop [3k\]: oh wow
ogre [2d?\]: p6 as a ko threat?
holynec [?\]: noob or nub
jim [6d\]: oh
epoxygal [3k\]: am i right? grubby?
wither [5k\]: is that gu walking around with a riding crop?
Trivia [2k?\]: w would like to strengthen her Q12 stone that's all
A1R [4k\]: ouch
ZothOmmog [4k\]: r9
ogre [2d?\]: i gues that would be dumb
Larrave [1d\]: white sure trying to fight this
namassst: p15..
jim [6d\]: this is ugly shape for white
]
;B[qe]
;W[oe]C[holynec [?\]: you tell em jim!
wither [5k\]: is ilya undefeated this tournament?
Q161 [?\]: yes
wither [5k\]: ;o
namassst: who the hell is ilya?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: its ponuki +1.
Q161 [?\]: he fights for mother russia
WorldCop [3k\]: wow, this fits together great for white
ZothOmmog [4k\]: so worth 25 points
H16 [1d\]: so ugly shapes
Blitzcore [3d\]: ilja richter former german tv moderator
Larrave [1d\]: you know that ponnuki is only worth the points when capturing a stone?:)
Effem [3k\]: the caughing dude is very annoying
ogre [2d?\]: why do this before p6 o4  exchange?
Vandal [5k\]: ilya, roln
namassst: n16 now
wither [5k\]: ilya sick orphan from bulgaria. please adopt him for 1.99 a month
NorthWind [5k\]: -_-
misjoe [2k\]: Ilya Prigogine, the only Belgian Nobel price winner
Trivia [2k?\]: yes Ilya coughing on board 1
Neocon [?\]: 25cent a day*
ZothOmmog [4k\]: price winner?
Hug [2k\]: nice center setup for w
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;B[he]
;W[ge]C[grumpyjoe [-\]: cool attack
Larrave [1d\]: y
Larrave [1d\]: ilya just needs a rocking chair
Larrave [1d\]: :D
Trivia [2k?\]: it's a pity for his winning chances
Trivia [2k?\]: he needs some chicken soup
namassst: h15 OMG
misjoe [2k\]: prize :)
Trivia [2k?\]: namsss yousuch a noob
Hug [2k\]: are these players like equally strong or whos stronger?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: megachicken soup
Hug [2k\]: ish
namassst: dunno
yamashitaK [5d\]: about equal Hug 
yamashitaK [5d\]: but Kang will win !!!!!
wither [5k\]: ilya is playing biological warfrae. get everyone sick now so theyll be weak in final rounds
NorthWind [5k\]: k17
wither [5k\]: very smart
namassst: n16 bigggggggggg
holynec [?\]: i think black is good.
Trivia [2k?\]: n16 would give W some points
namassst: n16 makes b shape
ogre [2d?\]: i would prefer to be b
wither [5k\]: id prefer to be pretty girl
wither [5k\]: dun dun dun
Neocon [?\]: noob
Trivia [2k?\]: id prefer to be stron in go
usagi [1d\]: GO BREAKFAST
usagi [1d\]: GO GO GO
namassst: breakfast rules!
Blitzcore [3d\]: i would prefer to sit in front of w
ZothOmmog [4k\]: I prefer non preferance
beefree1: white looks ahead if you ask me
Neocon [?\]: behind*
Blitzcore [3d\]: good that noone asked :)
usagi [1d\]: White cannot invade black yet
ZothOmmog [4k\]: white less solid
usagi [1d\]: and top is open
usagi [1d\]: q13 < o14
usagi [1d\]: Black M14 now?
ogre [2d?\]: i kinda get it tho
Blitzcore [3d\]: w openskirt at top q13 not really strong r6 weak
ogre [2d?\]: r6 is definitely a light stone
wither [5k\]: w is wearing shorts not skirt
holynec [?\]: L14
Kanin [-\]: w open skirt :O
Goleath [1k\]: B has to get out of there with his 2 dumplings tho
ogre [2d?\]: r6 r4  exchange good making r6 into a light stone
ogre [2d?\]: and so w just has kinda ugly shape on q13
jim [6d\]: O13
jim [6d\]: my choice
ZothOmmog [4k\]: l16
Goleath [1k\]: Or play ambitiously at P17 like a mad 1k would do
sesbes [1k?\]: Is black going to play o15 early on or save it for a while
RobSchley [7k\]: oooohhhh... breakfast
WorldCop [3k\]: great prediction
Trivia [2k?\]: L14
WorldCop [3k\]: black is also going to play k10, or he won't.
usagi [1d\]: Im seeing M14 now
A1R [4k\]: n13
Trivia [2k?\]: i'd save P17 for later
Daoloth [-\]: seems hard to decide a follow-up for those o14 stones
Goleath [1k\]: Aha! even Dinerstein had to look at Kangs way too shortcut shorts when she got up :-)
A1R [4k\]: or r9
Unefoix [1k\]: q11 area looks great  too
ZothOmmog [4k\]: sexy!
Goleath [1k\]: ya think!!! :D
ThiGar [5k\]: play sabaki?
epoxygal [3k\]: she's always wearing so short, tey going to saudi arabia
usagi [1d\]: q10 > q11 imo
NorthWind [5k\]: shortesuji
Trivia [2k?\]: dinerstein is not easily swayed by girly charms
HKitty [3d?\]: it can actually be very hot in Finland
jkhjkh: n3 seems so big
Trivia [2k?\]: it's about 20 degrees not so hot
HKitty [3d?\]: I think o13 is best
epoxygal [3k\]: cant be hotter than in the equatorial desert!
zife [6k\]: once in a century yeah
Fredegas [4d\]: Dino is without feelings behind go board
juj: last thursday it was 32 degrees in Tampere
Goleath [1k\]: meh :P 40 degrees in Hangzhou was a killer
zife [6k\]: 30C isn't hot btw
Fredegas [4d\]: any emotions
Fredegas [4d\]: gone
un [2k\]: 21°C in Tampere
ogre [2d?\]: doesnt finland get pretty cold in the winter?
jkhjkh: the 7d playing is dino?
epoxygal [3k\]: hangzhou was ok thanks to the lake.
epoxygal [3k\]: the lake experience was nice
Trivia [2k?\]: 3p is dino
Goleath [1k\]: during WAGC, it was nice :P now it's unbearable
Leohao [12k\]: go
epoxygal [3k\]: oh i thought u said during wagc
Zahlman [1k\]: I thought pros weren't shown with their pro rankings at EGC?
Effem [3k\]: who is the munching pinky on the background :)
namassst: dino cant play seriously
usagi [1d\]: black on the bottom looks like o4 but o4 is slow, maybe n4 to take advantage of r6, but I think the right side is more interesting, unfortunately there are 2 weak stones so I come up with M14 direction.. Maybe N16 is possible as well?
DrZoom [4k\]: how many time they haft left?
NorthWind [5k\]: who that in red just wandered past ?
Goleath [1k\]: ah.. no.. just came from hangzhou 2 days ago... 37-40 degrees. no wind, no rain
mihi [6d\]: can't play seriously but can but 6d(egf 6d)
mihi [6d\]: beat
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: haha red was me
usagi [1d\]: The other thing is the left side, I don't know what black can do there.
Effem [3k\]: women in red
mikan [2d\]: My money on B
Goleath [1k\]: probe C10 or something :P
Effem [3k\]: there used to be a song or movie like that
epoxygal [3k\]: u should be at hangzhou during wagc
Fredegas [4d\]: main importance now is o14 stones
ogre [2d?\]: o13 looks pretty good 
jim [6d\]: O13 is ok, black can make shape easy
usagi [1d\]: Yes breakfast may want to see what W wants on the left
Trivia [2k?\]: ilya is in the bathroom throwing up
ThiGar [5k\]: black can do c8 on the left side, usagi?
Goleath [1k\]: hangover?
Effem [3k\]: where is w anyways?
usagi [1d\]: that would explain H15.
wither [5k\]: b fell asleep
usagi [1d\]: If W moved, say, h14 instead....
ogre [2d?\]: r6 is a light stone no worry on that
jim [6d\]: O13, O12, N12, O11, and M14
Fredegas [4d\]: jim: o13 o12 n12 n11 o11 p12 
usagi [1d\]: then B would have an idea of the left side
falloutti [1d?\]: "may want to see what white wants on the left"
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: naked ila here
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ilya
usagi [1d\]: Thats a good idea about probing C10 or around there next
falloutti [1d?\]: he wants points, as many as she can get?
falloutti [1d?\]: *she
Fredegas [4d\]: dont cut? 
usagi [1d\]: Although I think I like D11 better than C10? what is the move there?
pirate [?\]: naked??
Zahlman [1k\]: o_O why would ilya be naked
mihi [6d\]: naked ilya and nakg looking at him
mihi [6d\]: half-naked
Goleath [1k\]: haha. half naked Shikshin in the background ;)
jim [6d\]: if white cut black sacrifice
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: his shirt was wet
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: so he took it out
Trivia [2k?\]: ilya got a parka
Goleath [1k\]: got a screenshot ^^
NorthWind [5k\]: sans shirt
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: now only wears jacket
wither [5k\]: hahhahaha
RobSchley [7k\]: any predictions about this game?
wither [5k\]: hottest go congress ever
Fredegas [4d\]: nah I thought black cut :) after n12 
ZothOmmog [4k\]: strip go!
]
;B[pi]C[namassst: ..................
Fredegas [4d\]: oja
usagi [1d\]: That move! Oooh!
Neocon [?\]: ilya is a cool cat. id chill with him
namassst: B WON
]
;W[oi]C[WorldCop [3k\]: such a kyu move
HKitty [3d?\]: Iliya looks like he just spent 10 years in Siberia... Must ahve been a tough weekend
ZothOmmog [4k\]: q11 is on the nose
usagi [1d\]: So this is better then q10..
Unefoix [1k\]: ^^ q11
ogre [2d?\]: o13 o12 n12 n11 o11 p12 p11 n13 m12 n14 q11 
WorldCop [3k\]: only pro can do this
Trivia [2k?\]: i think hthey're pals with Szaba
HKitty [3d?\]: the famouse nose reddening move
namassst: is b right to make this 2 weak stones and forget r6 stone?
jim [6d\]: double hane now
ZothOmmog [4k\]: o13
DrZoom [4k\]: they send this naked guy to distract Kang Kyoung-nang...
wither [5k\]: this game will be the end of ilya. like blood vomitting game
usagi [1d\]: Double hane, interesting
Zahlman [1k\]: which "2 weak stones"?
namassst: o14
]
;B[pj]
;W[oj]C[Zahlman [1k\]: they are not quite under attack yet
ZothOmmog [4k\]: why not p10 instead of  q10?
Zahlman [1k\]: and r6 is not really ignored :)
Trivia [2k?\]: i guess B has N16 in reserve
MonkeyFool [15k\]: they're weaker now though...
namassst: sure they're
xxxstar [8d?\]: P 9
veiron [10k\]: dinershtein have a problem with center
Syptryn [3d\]: mmmm
jim [6d\]: hmm this game is good for white now
epoxygal [3k\]: ilya kept looking at kand...
Trivia [2k?\]: so he makes w stronge there to be overconcentrated
Syptryn [3d\]: black really is going to give up the mid?
]
;B[ok]C[yamashitaK [5d\]: b must show later some good sabaki or he will lose 
yamashitaK [5d\]: ^^
]
;W[nk]C[epoxygal [3k\]: problem with center? we need SUM
ZothOmmog [4k\]: o8
namassst: center big but i think b invades easy
Effem [3k\]: nah... fujisawa sytle he will invade
sesbes [1k?\]: White's moyo is huge
xxxstar [8d?\]: O 10.
Q161 [?\]: :P 
ZothOmmog [4k\]: hane again!
StefanRadu [1k\]: b has some cash too.
ogre [2d?\]: w must have read out invasion before doing this
chimbba [2k\]: b play risky
Syptryn [3d\]: doube hane
jim [6d\]: O9 overplay
Syptryn [3d\]: will kill black
ogre [2d?\]: i mean b
xxxstar [8d?\]: w play risky
Trivia [2k?\]: ilya can actually pass infection through stones
jim [6d\]: black cut
yamashitaK [5d\]: kang loves overplays
ZothOmmog [4k\]: kang plays sexy
deeb [9k\]: she's not looking at the board when is is not her turn
Zahlman [1k\]: there is a fair amount of aji
nasnad [2d\]: o10?
kaydat [2d?\]: what should w have played instead of o9?
Zahlman [1k\]: I think the moyo will get reduced reasonably well
ZothOmmog [4k\]: r9
jim [6d\]: O10
nasnad [2d\]: I want o10 and fight
namassst: o10 huge fail
Zahlman [1k\]: yeah, I can't really see what's "not overplay" if o9 is overplay
nasnad [2d\]: seems reasonable
sesbes [1k?\]: White's moyo is 14 deep at some points. Should be interesting to see how black will try to reduce
taiji [2d\]: its a really big moyo
epoxygal [3k\]: O10 is a kyu mistake, e.g. I will play O10
NorthWind [5k\]: q7
Effem [3k\]: it big but very invadable
Zahlman [1k\]: that's an interesting way to look at it sesbes :)
kaydat [2d?\]: jimmm
ogre [2d?\]: o10 o11 n10 n11 m10 m11 
kurikuri [1d\]: what's the refutation to o10?
kaydat [2d?\]: what wouldve you played instead of o9 as w?
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;B[nj]C[epoxygal [3k\]: grubby, what u think?
Zahlman [1k\]: :o
namassst: FK!
RobSchley [7k\]: haha
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: oh oh
nasnad [2d\]: haha
Fredegas [4d\]: hmm moyo not so big, liable to invasion k17 l17 k18 all possible invasions, with other
ZothOmmog [4k\]: white wins!
RobSchley [7k\]: here we go
Syptryn [3d\]: woa
Zahlman [1k\]: honestly I was tempted by q9 solid connection :x
epoxygal [3k\]: eh, he plays my kyu mistake move
jim [6d\]: black won game
namassst: i cant belive now
namassst: :D KKKKK
ogre [2d?\]: not so sure man
Syptryn [3d\]: Kang didnt expect that...
ThiGar [5k\]: don't forget the r6 stone
Zahlman [1k\]: epoxygal, but he didn't do kyu reading for it ;)
kurikuri [1d\]: hey epoxy, do you ever play c4?
namassst: kaga laughts!!
nasnad [2d\]: it is not so easy for w
ZothOmmog [4k\]: o13
epoxygal [3k\]: i use C4 to blow up ppl
Effem [3k\]: man this dude should stop caughing...
Zahlman [1k\]: kaga?
namassst: hahaha
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i'm sure Ilya caught a cold
jim [6d\]: Q13 shape so ugly 
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: he's caughing nonstop
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: red nose
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: red ears
wither [5k\]: no i think ilya is just being dramatic!
namassst: stop
namassst: flood
golife [1d\]: q9 p8 - o11 n10 - r9 s10 -n11 
namassst: eurogo
Daoloth [-\]: w played o9 in a second or two
Syptryn [3d\]: Poor Illya
alexanderp [?\]: Heroic Ilya fighting till the last drip of blood and last cough!
ZothOmmog [4k\]: white throws the game just to stay away from mr. cough cough
alexanderp [?\]: drop*
yamashitaK [5d\]: haha kang is so cute when she is reading
wither [5k\]: are csaba and ilya close in strength?
apadox [8k\]: he or she?
wither [5k\]: or is ilya expected to win
Kanin [-\]: has he been out trading saliva with the finnish lassies?
namassst: sh
namassst: she
kgjamie [22k?\]: j
kgjamie [22k?\]: h
kgjamie [22k?\]: h
yamashitaK [5d\]: she 
ogre [2d?\]: what is there other than o11 n10 n11 m10 m11 
kgjamie [22k?\]: h
kgjamie [22k?\]: h
kgjamie [22k?\]: h
kgjamie [22k?\]: h
kgjamie [22k?\]: h
kgjamie [22k?\]: h
namassst: lol
kgjamie [22k?\]: h
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ilya is expected to win but they are kinda same strength
wither [5k\]: ;o duno if i expect sick person to win
golife [1d\]: how old is kang?
juj: Kanin, no, unfortunately the middle-european fellas have taken all the saliva
Syptryn [3d\]: You can't played 2 ranks worse
Syptryn [3d\]: when your suck
Syptryn [3d\]: eerr sick
epoxygal [3k\]: H1N1, becareful
yamashitaK [5d\]: golife maybe 20
apadox [8k\]: saliva is overrated
wither [5k\]: but then again i do just as well in games when im sick. spometimes better because my mind doesnt wander
ZothOmmog [4k\]: maybe its the plauge
radishimo [4k\]: nice legs
golife [1d\]: from?
wither [5k\]: i saw this thing on NOVA that said like 1 in 3 europeans is now immune to the plague
wither [5k\]: because of .. you know.. the plague
ogre [2d?\]: maybe q9 first
xxxstar [8d?\]: they read too slow
Blitzcore [3d\]: too skinny for my taste
NorthWind [5k\]: both players left
xxxstar [8d?\]: anyone wants a game ?
ogre [2d?\]: stick one into q9 before push out?
Trivia [2k?\]: i think she learned this move from Ilya (legs up)
epoxygal [3k\]: again, as we know, she is using the kneww tesuji again lol
StefanRadu [1k\]: sure me
epoxygal [3k\]: *knee
holynec [?\]: Trivia, that is inappropriate
alexanderp [?\]: well, she has a strange manner to sit at the table playing go
ogre [2d?\]: q9 p8 o11 n10 n11 m10 m11 
Trivia [2k?\]: i know ;0
martin3141 [1d\]: white is quite short of liberties, but black as well ...
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;W[ni]C[Blitzcore [3d\]: maybe the chairs are uncomfortable?
epoxygal [3k\]: holynec, we are not in saudi arabia, ok
]
;B[mj]C[MonkeyFool [15k\]: does someone have the link for the live feed?
holynec [?\]: some of us are...
epoxygal [3k\]: u r in saudi arabia? u should go pray. prayer time now
jim [6d\]: after J18 white will get so few here
ogre [2d?\]: now w have to make r6 alive
ogre [2d?\]: forced to do it
usagi [1d\]: LOL
yamashitaK [5d\]: w had a bad start like always
namassst: LOL!
usagi [1d\]: Did you see that
FunGoSage [2k\]: not yet, white still needs to escape
yamashitaK [5d\]: so she will win ^^
usagi [1d\]: lol just lol
ogre [2d?\]: put cut into q9 and then push again
]
;W[mi]C[namassst: m11?
Trivia [2k?\]: nice fight
Syptryn [3d\]: this gonna get serious ugly
Goleath [1k\]: Got exciting fast :-) 
kimball [4d?\]: m11 now i'd predict
wither [5k\]: or seriously cute
pirate [?\]: already is ugly
apadox [8k\]: got slow fast
Trivia [2k?\]: nice camera angle we see Ilya the iceman
wither [5k\]: ilya slowly dying in the background
apadox [8k\]: ILya
Trivia [2k?\]: no he's more like withering
alexanderp [?\]: lol, wither. that was a dramatic comment
NschoTschi [-\]: Ilya den wibbelstetz!
wither [5k\]: makes it more dramqatic when lives are on the line
ZothOmmog [4k\]: do you have to register for gotv?
wither [5k\]: imagine its his last game and hes just struggling til the end
wither [5k\]: must finish.. before... death
alexanderp [?\]: Well, it's a good Russian tradition to give a "Hero" sign...postmortem.
FunGoSage [2k\]: not to watch
martin3141 [1d\]: how old is kyoung-nang kang?
vannab [3k\]: Ilia well alive on board
alexanderp [?\]: Yes, Zothy, you need to register. But I have a secret link without registration.
alexanderp [?\]: She's 20, okay.
wither [5k\]: who cares. registration is free
al2 [1d\]: not only russian tradition, it is very common in US and europe too
ogre [2d?\]: i dont know about m11
wither [5k\]: does the girl in pink play go?
A1R [4k\]: secret?
Syptryn [3d\]: I can't read M-11
alexanderp [?\]: Yeah, EuroGoTv doesn't show it so I suppose it's a secret.
NorthWind [5k\]: hmm, euro you looking good too :)
Trivia [2k?\]: so many cuts how to decide
jkhjkh: who needs hero when you got har
jkhjkh: m11 is quite complicated
alexanderp [?\]: Zothy: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/EuroGoTV2
Syptryn [3d\]: if this was kblitz
Syptryn [3d\]: I'd play
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i'm getting bored -_-'
Syptryn [3d\]: M-11
wither [5k\]: who is girl in pink
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: me
wither [5k\]: :O
apadox [8k\]: : )
namassst: im bored =/
DrZoom [4k\]: Ilia got a serous cold, probably he will not finish that game...
Syptryn [3d\]: poor Illya
Syptryn [3d\]: could die
A1R [4k\]: he looks very bad :(
pirate [?\]: poor EurogoTv
DrZoom [4k\]: ...seems he is sweating like a water fall
wither [5k\]: ilya is living by ko right now
alexanderp [?\]: Does anybody knows if Ilya came to Congress with his coach?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no coach
namassst: maybe m11 a little greedy should only m10?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: this year
RobSchley [7k\]: who won between ilya and kang?
A1R [4k\]: coach?
taiji [2d\]: Ilya should get some zhuyeqing tea 
juj: ilya, I think
RobSchley [7k\]: didn't see the end
FFH [2k\]: ilya
ogre [2d?\]: m11 give b lots of cuts all over when w is escaped 
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ilya won
alexanderp [?\]: So there is nobody to care about Ilya and his health. Very bad.
RobSchley [7k\]: there goes a lung
RobSchley [7k\]: jeez
basil [3d\]: who did breakfast lose to?
canizar: what;s wrong with p8
taiji [2d\]: ilya probably cares...
VariantVL [2k?\]: how do you redeem prizes for VIp points?
Trivia [2k?\]: dino lost by 0.5 to Cornel
apadox [8k\]: first you redeem your soul
basil [3d\]: nice
alexanderp [?\]: Maybe someone...someone from Russian players could bring him tea with honey + paracetamol. At least his symptoms are easy to cure.
ThiGar [5k\]: Tampere not temperate?
saadasdsa: m10 
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;B[li]C[namassst: ok ok m11
namassst: god
kimball [4d?\]: ha
Q161 [?\]: wow
RobSchley [7k\]: weeee
Q161 [?\]: is this really alex?? 
Goleath [1k\]: Tea with honey gets you through the game.... Got the flu right now myself, and that does the trick for a few horus and gets rid of the cough
Q161 [?\]: lol
Trivia [2k?\]: another 20k move
saadasdsa: :))
Song17 [4d\]: lol
namassst: this 20k will win the game :/
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Dinerstein lost against Thomas Debarre in weekend tournament =D
saadasdsa: diner is realy bad:"))
ThiGar [5k\]: lots of cuts
Song17 [4d\]: it's an uncompromising move
Syptryn [3d\]: its only move
Syptryn [3d\]: all or nothing
Song17 [4d\]: can't let w have that much
epoxygal [3k\]: ale is going to lose
RobSchley [7k\]: what if b sac one cut and use m11 as base for invasion?
A1R [4k\]: thomas is in good shape
alexanderp [?\]: Goleath, I don't know what is its name in Europe, but TeraFlu or Coldflu completely makes you're a healthy person for a 3-6 hours.
martin3141 [1d\]: b wants to take advantage of white's shortage of liberties ... this is gonna get messy
Goleath [1k\]: ahhh yeah. we got TeraFlu as well
Trivia [2k?\]: and then you die. lol
Goleath [1k\]: honorable!
yamashitaK [5d\]: m11 is too much 
yamashitaK [5d\]: kang will punish 
wither [5k\]: cocaine might make him healthy for a bit.
yamashitaK [5d\]: I hope
DrZoom [4k\]: next move for white o13 
Syptryn [3d\]: I can't read any direct counters to M-11
alexanderp [?\]: Goleath, there are cheaper analogues with same ingredients, though, like 3 times cheaper (at least here). that's what Ilya needs and nobody helps him
wither [5k\]: breakfast is distracting with his manly stretching
WorldCop [3k\]: what is the punishing move then?
wither [5k\]: now she cant focus
Song17 [4d\]: o13 is kind of solid, but looks terribly slow
Neocon [?\]: insead of sabaki, b choose to make bigger moyo it seems
wither [5k\]: ... no effect!
Eshelnah [9k\]: M10 ? ;>
alexanderp [?\]: EuroGo, can we pay someone to buy TeraFlu and give to Ilya?
mikan [2d\]: B looks like shape fall apart here ... what is in his mind?
xDragon [?\]: alex is a mans man
Song17 [4d\]: no way she will play there
Syptryn [3d\]: q9 p8 o8 ?
A1R [4k\]: he is dying
Trivia [2k?\]: he shoule do a few puchups
Goleath [1k\]: MM... someone should get a hold of Vesa.. he's a kind guy and one of the organizers. Should be able to cook something up 
AllNewSad [3d\]: o8 ?
DrZoom [4k\]: but o13 is a forcing move
kimball [4d?\]: w must cut, cannot let b connect m10
yamashitaK [5d\]: yep
gggd [2d\]: hi
namassst: this game is so boring
alexanderp [?\]: Another point - Ilya will infect everyone in the range of 1m (it's a range of flu virus through air)
wither [5k\]: someone give ilya a back/head rub. maybe fan him a bit
ogre [2d?\]: w n12 here
gggd [2d\]: m10
namassst: m12..
wither [5k\]: alex flu doesnt use the metric system
Fredegas [4d\]: alexanderp : really, just 1 meter? 
wither [5k\]: since people can sneeze at 80mph i think flu gets around
alexanderp [?\]: Yes, Fredegas. It's a range of breath and infection.
fatihsulak [-\]: q9 imo
Laman [1d\]: we cant bet on the 2nd board?
DrZoom [4k\]: I would only play computer go with people having a flu.
namassst: no
alexanderp [?\]: At least that what we'have taught when we was kids
radishimo [4k\]: that 1m statistic is a load of crap
WorldCop [3k\]: i sneeze at 120mph. i'm no fan of speed limits.
ogre [2d?\]: too early for q9
wither [5k\]: only bet is at what move ilya drops dead
]
;W[lj]C[Trivia [2k?\]: 78,5% of all stats are made up
kenjiro43 [6k\]: SO MEAN
]
;B[mk]C[namassst: argh
Goleath [1k\]: wha..?
namassst: w undo?
]
;W[pk]C[grzesiek [15k?\]: ?
]
;B[ol]
;W[ng]C[namassst: ?????????????????
feyodora [15k\]: ??
VariantVL [2k?\]: misclick?
namassst: what is euro doing
kurikuri [1d\]: yes, she misclicked
namassst: xD
ZeroKun [-\]: lol
feyodora [15k\]: lol
Exar [1d\]: whoever's relaying the demo probably just misclicked
Goleath [1k\]: P15 coming and W is in trouble ?
kenjiro43 [6k\]: lol
namassst: kyoung missclicked :)
namassst: lol
notbert [7k\]: ne undo, even misclicks ^_____^
kurikuri [1d\]: but ale gave her a few undo
kurikuri [1d\]: he understands
Goleath [1k\]: ubernice
WorldCop [3k\]: shouldn't misclick. better to click the right spot.
wither [5k\]: not if youre me
namassst: yes or i will kick u of ur job
namassst: =)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: sorry
yamashitaK [5d\]: b in trouble ?
wither [5k\]: my misclicks seem just as good as my regular moves
Syptryn [3d\]: calm move
mikan [2d\]: I've got that problem, too, wither
wither [5k\]: ;o
ogre [2d?\]: please dont kick eurogotv2 of job
ZothOmmog [4k\]: -42% of everything is a misclick
ogre [2d?\]: then we lose game view
Syptryn [3d\]: hard for black to repair all defetcs
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i'm playing Bomberman same time
alexanderp [?\]: Well, he should know what he's doing, Syptryn.
namassst: no.. lets put another people for command eurogotv2 account ..
WorldCop [3k\]: should play minesweeper to train clicking.
ogre [2d?\]: wow i remember bomerman
Trivia [2k?\]: oh i hear the keys rustling
feyodora [15k\]: lol
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: but i'll focus on the game again
Syptryn [3d\]: o8 
namassst: remember
wither [5k\]: get someone else to mark the moves. eurogo2 can dance in front of camera
wither [5k\]: everythig beter
namassst: some moves was not the correct order
Song17 [4d\]: I like L10 for some reason
fatihsulak [-\]: o8 and black better? 
namassst: by eurogo =..
Song17 [4d\]: more cutting fun
Trivia [2k?\]: yep we need some cheerleadin section here
Neocon [?\]: nice leg w
Bembelbote [-\]: pretty boring sitting there all day, eh? do you get something for it, eurogo?
namassst: 10$
namassst: xD
mikan [2d\]: He's just a fanboy, I think
ZothOmmog [4k\]: who wears short shorts?
grumpyjoe [-\]: he gets to stare at kang all day
Laman [1d\]: kang
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Ilya makes very disgusting suonds right now
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: with his nose
Trivia [2k?\]: somehow I don't get any comments of how cute Kang is, anymore
wither [5k\]: dont think eurogo likes staring at kang
namassst: haha
gfdhff [4k\]: cute Kang
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no i don't get anything, but EuroGo is my friend
wither [5k\]: not ilyas fault
Bembelbote [-\]: :)
namassst: eurogo.. was it disgusting?
xDragon [?\]: technically it is
namassst: much?
deeb [9k\]: cute kang looks little nervous
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: and since i wont play Main this EGC it's no probleem
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: to broadcast
wither [5k\]: rabbits are cute and they look nervous
WorldCop [3k\]: why not play?
wither [5k\]: what rank is eurogi
FairyTale [4d\]: nervous? she looks like she doesn't care about the game.
namassst: about 16k european
WorldCop [3k\]: probably annoyed at ilya
wither [5k\]: ...
wither [5k\]: 16k sopunds bad
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: hmm, i just don't feel like playing this year
namassst: well... 
namassst: he is just a fanboy 
Goleath [1k\]: uup... streaming crashed
wither [5k\]: yes but 16k is awfully bad
wither [5k\]: you think if you went around taking movies of go games
wither [5k\]: that youd learn something
alexanderp [?\]: stream is working without any crashes for me
namassst: thats true.. thats why is suck 16k commanding this games.. ofc is only a reply but still sucks
taiji [2d\]: a very tough fight started for both
typohh [6k\]: looks like the w group is easily alive now, so b wants to get to l17 area somehow?
ogre [2d?\]: no
chimbba [2k\]: so what's the move now for b?
WorldCop [3k\]: b wants to take care of his cuts
namassst: just 3 cuts
ZothOmmog [4k\]: r8
ogre [2d?\]: o8?
ChrisSon [5k\]: im trying to watch the game on http://www.ustream.tv/channel/EuroGoTV2 but its not working for me
ChrisSon [5k\]: anyone know why?
DrZoom [4k\]: next move n14 for black.
namassst: chrison
holynec [?\]: >:D
holynec [?\]: <:D
namassst: i know why
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i think ilya infected Csaba
jim [6d\]: O8 is ok
Syptryn [3d\]: o8 os the simplest choce
Syptryn [3d\]: is
Trivia [2k?\]: need to register chris
alexanderp [?\]: It's working, Chris.
Eshelnah [9k\]: M12  @_@
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Csaba is also going outside the room to do the nose-thing
ChrisSon [5k\]: oh ok
ogre [2d?\]: r12 looks a bit riskier than o8
alexanderp [?\]: try eurogotv site, Chris
ZothOmmog [4k\]: o8 r11?
tellone [3k\]: for a guy who love joseki dinerstein sure gets weird shapes fast
namassst: ChrisSon thats becouse Stream is blocked in some countrys ok?... maybe ur blocked too
typohh [6k\]: how bad is the q9 aji for b?
DrZoom [4k\]: Ilia just infected me with his flu.
wither [5k\]: csaba isnt sick. hes just clearing his nose of the flu viruses hes picking up
Syptryn [3d\]: r-11 is small..
namassst: my not work too^^
namassst: brasil blocked :D
goth [?\]: ilia makes use of biological weapons
ogre [2d?\]: r11 would not work
wither [5k\]: i want dinerstein to win because i believe pros should beat amatuers. its only fair
alexanderp [?\]: she's insei as I understand. Korean Insei...
zife [6k\]: fair?
Laman [1d\]: well, diner isnt so much a pro
MonkeyFool [15k\]: fair?
ogre [2d?\]: w still in damezumari
Syptryn [3d\]: o15 p16 n13  is more exciting...
ZothOmmog [4k\]: doesnt r11 threaten r14 group?
fatihsulak [-\]: i want dinerstein to win because she is far stronger than him :)
Trivia [2k?\]: M12 maybe
wither [5k\]: fair is fair
NorthWind [5k\]: o8 looks like a must
ZothOmmog [4k\]: guess not
gisel [3d\]: I would like him to beat her, to prove that europeans can also be good players
WorldCop [3k\]: ilya proved it already
WorldCop [3k\]: amazing results so far
alexanderp [?\]: gisel, Ilya already proved this by his game with Kang
WorldCop [3k\]: of course he's still annoying
namassst: 3p european = 4d chinese :)
Syptryn [3d\]: yes but it can live, I don't think white wants black tp ponnuki in mid
apadox [8k\]: ilija won kang?
gisel [3d\]: yes, but she's still going to get 2nd place so far XD
gfdhff [4k\]: round round of the camera ;p
FairyTale [4d\]: ilya beat kang? wow
Q161 [?\]: ilya CRUSHED kang
ogre [2d?\]: ilia good chance for undefeatment? isnt he caught a bug?
wither [5k\]: .. crushed by 2.5 right
alexanderp [?\]: it was an epic game
gisel [3d\]: and Ilya seems to be in bad condition, I wonder if he can win egc
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;B[lk]C[FairyTale [4d\]: like idra beating tossgirl
ogre [2d?\]: if ilia is sick now it can affect his performance
Syptryn [3d\]: hmmm
Q161 [?\]: like great russian tank rolling over tiny insect
alexanderp [?\]: lol
mikan [2d\]: Ilya had a solid performance, almost screwed it up though
ogre [2d?\]: m9 is so ambitious
Syptryn [3d\]: I can't see the benefit of this move
ZothOmmog [4k\]: and the insect blows up the tank
wither [5k\]: snails see the benefits
ZothOmmog [4k\]: o6
ogre [2d?\]: protects n9 from getting captured
Unefoix [1k\]: ladder to capture o9
chimbba [2k\]: critical point for both moyos
goth [?\]: big move actually
ogre [2d?\]: no ladder
NorthWind [5k\]: creates ladder maybe
ogre [2d?\]: oh o9 u said
golife [1d\]: q8?
]
;W[kj]C[Kanin [-\]: syptryn, if w extends b plan to playL11 I think
namassst: play more FASTER PLEASE
FairyTale [4d\]: "more faster"
grumpyjoe [-\]: this seems to give up too much
wither [5k\]: step1 take cup of water. step 2 pour it on ilyas head
Q161 [?\]: rofl
epoxygal [3k\]: more faster? must be asian
]
;B[kk]
;W[jj]C[namassst: ..
ZothOmmog [4k\]: more fasterer
]
;B[jk]C[Syptryn [3d\]: nopw
]
;W[ij]C[namassst: pls much more faster fast
WorldCop [3k\]: gotta push from behind. always good
StefanRadu [1k\]: small....
alexanderp [?\]: oh, that's the plan
RobSchley [7k\]: b just going to take half the board?
Syptryn [3d\]: its gonna be 50% vs 50%
fatihsulak [-\]: tons of territort for black 
epoxygal [3k\]: he is most fasterest
]
;B[ik]C[Higanbana [?\]: she just drop a stone?
Luna86 [9k\]: not good for w
namassst: yes
typohh [6k\]: b j18 getting kinda big?
alexanderp [?\]: w's territory is easily invaded
namassst: like that speed
namassst: is great
alexanderp [?\]: or reduced
fatihsulak [-\]: s10 maybe?
]
;W[hj]C[taiji [2d\]: huge exchangement!!!
Syptryn [3d\]: white missing J-18
Larrave [1d\]: thats what black is speculating on
Goleath [1k\]: yikes...
Larrave [1d\]: j18 is big
StefanRadu [1k\]: now j18.........
WorldCop [3k\]: and now, w just lives on the bottom
namassst: j18 = win
NorthWind [5k\]: 420 observers now
martin3141 [1d\]: w's moyo is small compared to black's .... w need to invade
ogre [2d?\]: no time for j18
namassst: j18!!!!!!!!
fatihsulak [-\]: s10 eliminates aji
Higanbana [?\]: where to play on bottom? n3 or m3?
Dino9 [6d\]: around r10 big
wither [5k\]: im scared
wither [5k\]: hold me
epoxygal [3k\]: u all looking at J18 but forgot abt black;s bottom
zizu [-\]: N3
Syptryn [3d\]: o3 can lvie for sure
Syptryn [3d\]: right now
Q161 [?\]: wither tell it to kang
wither [5k\]: i look at blacks bottom every time he gets up to stretch
epoxygal [3k\]: black has a big bottom
wither [5k\]: big strong bottom
namassst: this game will finish faster
Syptryn [3d\]: its not his yet
ZothOmmog [4k\]: black bottom
wither [5k\]: time to spank it
namassst: anyway i think both will try survive in ridiculous areas
martin3141 [1d\]: s10? or g8?
chimbba [2k\]: interesting position
AllNewSad [3d\]: j18 :>
ZothOmmog [4k\]: n3
namassst: j18!!!!!!!
namassst: j18!!!!!!11111111111
Eshelnah [9k\]: W won ?
alexanderp [?\]: critical move it seems
ZothOmmog [4k\]: n3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111112
ZeroKun [-\]: lol calm down guys
fatihsulak [-\]: so many big points :) 
Syptryn [3d\]: black deciging where he should defen bot, or invade top
wither [5k\]: do eurogo people get free food or drinks there?
wither [5k\]: for their work
namassst: no
xDragon [?\]: water and bread on a tray
RobSchley [7k\]: sad
wither [5k\]: ;o namass how do u know
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: hmm yeah
ka3ak [1k\]: G8 -?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: you can get free drinks
ogre [2d?\]: r12 first
ZothOmmog [4k\]: water and bread in a can
grumpyjoe [-\]: r9
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: you've to bring your food yourself
wither [5k\]: ;o
zc3k [1k\]: looks b more big?
namassst: eurogo people are sometimes 10 year kid boy 20kyush too
xDragon [?\]: i havent seen bread in a can in forever
epoxygal [3k\]: its nice to be able to play Go AND can have free food and drinks. what a life!
Trivia [2k?\]: it's still vulgar, to push from behind
wither [5k\]: lol ilya is sick and he still walks around and paces
namassst: j18 the best way!!!!!!1111
namassst: =35pts
NorthWind [5k\]: Eurogo, can we call you Heidi ?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: hahaha why ?
martin3141 [1d\]: that's what they tell us amateurs, but sometime's it's good
alexanderp [?\]: or Klum?
wither [5k\]: no call her pinkie
scurge [5d\]: 7	Laura Avram (2d)		-	Catalin Taranu (7d) haha :)
NorthWind [5k\]: shorter to type
Am [5d\]: j18 is looking bog, however....
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: hey ondra
Am [5d\]: big**
Trivia [2k?\]: ppor Catalin
kryft [1k\]: scurge, Romanian 2 dan :P
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: funny pairing right
ZothOmmog [4k\]: big bog
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Laura against Catalin
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: it's scurge GF
kryft [1k\]: scurge, She's much stronger than that.
Kour [4k\]: has none of the japanese one of those things over mouth and nose? to put on ilya...
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: playing against catalin
gisel [3d\]: im rooting for Laura ^^
martin3141 [1d\]: a move at the bottom-area is much bigger than j18, imo
kryft [1k\]: Oh, never mind then. ;)
namassst: hahaha look at this eurogo game 191	Ulla-Maija Niinisalo (20k)-	Emil Riedeman (30k) LMAO
Trivia [2k?\]: go Emil!!!
Zahlman [1k\]: what, beginners are not allowed to have a tournament? that's a horrible thought :(
epoxygal [3k\]: whats wrong with that
]
;B[hk]C[avio [2d\]: it's normal pairing- the huge top group is not normal
koha [1d\]: we were all 30k once
Trivia [2k?\]: namssss is a n00b
wither [5k\]: hes pushing her from behind!
epoxygal [3k\]: indeed kohi
xDragon [?\]: there are 50ks at us congress
taiji [2d\]: hane
ShusakuSai [8k\]: 50 ks ? xd
Zahlman [1k\]: many new players are well motivated by competition
namassst: 51ks
Syptryn [3d\]: white tenuki?
avio [2d\]: 32 players in the top group - that's the problem
Song17 [4d\]: shouldn't be impossible to live there I think
epoxygal [3k\]: he's pushing from behind and has a big bottom...how vulgar Go language can be
Song17 [4d\]: for w
wither [5k\]: its kind of silly to be in a tournament before dedicating at least a month to something..
martin3141 [1d\]: w should invade now
Zahlman [1k\]: not to mention open skirts
nejikashin [6k\]: Т_Т
ZothOmmog [4k\]: dont forget the peek
koha [1d\]: a lot of NZ tournaments have only dan players - it's a bit sad
wither [5k\]: and if youve dedicated a month to go you wont be 20k
chimbba [2k\]: h9 important?
epoxygal [3k\]: lol Zahlman
fatihsulak [-\]: h9 unexpected :)
Trivia [2k?\]: open skirt
ZothOmmog [4k\]: h18
namassst: 190	Kosti Niinisalo (30k)	-	Aya de Groot (18k)	  -  exciting game	 
epoxygal [3k\]: Men invented Go language in the west
taiji [2d\]: I prefer black's position
avio [2d\]: there are at most 10 players with chances for the first three
epoxygal [3k\]: i like black
FunGoSage [2k\]: w has to make her next move as an invasion
Trivia [2k?\]: most of 30ks are unfairly rated
wither [5k\]: as long as breakfast is gonna get up he should dance
epoxygal [3k\]: alhough i cant stand alex's marketing
scurge [5d\]: J18 getting big\\
NorthWind [5k\]: ya FunGo but where ?
Kickchon [?\]: when you attend a tournament for the first time, how are you rated ?
kryft [1k\]: Marketing?
Laman [1d\]: what is wrong about 32 players top group? when playing 10 rounds it looks quite ok to me
Sjonny [8k\]: Black in trouble ?
avio [2d\]: Dinerchtein played a 3 dan in the second round
Syptryn [3d\]: yes, but bot invasion bigger?
AllNewSad [3d\]: g3 ?
MonkeyFool [15k\]: n3?
namassst: h18!?
epoxygal [3k\]: alex is makrting 9p dont u know kryft?
taiji [2d\]: I hope w wins ^o^
xDragon [?\]: first time i ever played a live tourney, i didnt have aga rating, i just told them my kgs rating and we went by that
kryft [1k\]: Kickchon, Depends on the country.
FunGoSage [2k\]: I'm not yet strong enough to say
avio [2d\]: 32 plyers in the top group means less games between strong players
Q161 [?\]: whats wrong with trying to make go popular in the west?
Q161 [?\]: good for him
Kickchon [?\]: so, in finland? :P
ThiGar [5k\]: o6?
namassst: 187	Vera Zahonyi (18k)	-	Anna Nilsson (30k) :D!!
wither [5k\]: ilya should lean over and cough into her water cup
avio [2d\]: and more games between 7da-3-4 dan
wither [5k\]: or maybe go up to eurogotv2 and blow his nose
RobSchley [7k\]: w thinking about invasion
kryft [1k\]: Kickchon, If you're weaker than 7 kyu, you can just announce your own rank.
epoxygal [3k\]: he makes Go popular in the West via vulgar marketing techniques, just like his pushing from behind here, vulgar...
kenjiro43 [6k\]: true avio
Larrave [1d\]: it sounds like some pandemia
Larrave [1d\]: xD
namassst: wow 
namassst: i found it
namassst: is it right?
Q161 [?\]: lol epox you just sound bitter :D
ZothOmmog [4k\]: what vulger techniques?
Syptryn [3d\]: o3  looks good
Kickchon [?\]: and if not one starts as 7 kyu ?
NorthWind [5k\]: gal, you don'y like vulgar ?
Syptryn [3d\]: or
Syptryn [3d\]: k3 
epoxygal [3k\]: lol, i am not bitter, i just cant stand him spamming marketing
]
;W[oq]C[Larrave [1d\]: white invaded
fatihsulak [-\]: wow
taiji [2d\]: b wants to push from behind all day 
Trivia [2k?\]: no Ilya!!! no !!! stay where you are
Syptryn [3d\]: woa
epoxygal [3k\]: anyways.....
Q161 [?\]: yea youre bitter 
Kickchon [?\]: p3? Oo
xDragon [?\]: so who bet on that move?
xDragon [?\]: anyone?
Larrave [1d\]: p3 is vital point
MonkeyFool [15k\]: isn't o3/n3 better ?
epoxygal [3k\]: P3... i need to learn this move..
stf7 [1k\]: lol
Zahlman [1k\]: p3 standard technique
Syptryn [3d\]: hwo to get vip pts to bid?
epoxygal [3k\]: i have been told it is a vulgar move
kenjiro43 [6k\]: oooops
FFH [2k\]: forcing b to make empty triangle?
StefanRadu [1k\]: :))
Zahlman [1k\]: it is vulgar without r4
Syptryn [3d\]: n3 
namassst: 186	Adrian Schmuck (20k)	-       Catalin Taranu (5p)	  - (no hc)	 
kryft [1k\]: Kickchon, 8 kyu. Usually you can get someone to play you before the tournament to give you a stronger rank if necessary.
grumpyjoe [-\]: why do people hate alex?
Zahlman [1k\]: with r4, the natural q3 response makes an empty triangle
epoxygal [3k\]: Q2 is not an empty triagle
grumpyjoe [-\]: seems like a nice guy
taiji [2d\]: I love alex
Kickchon [?\]: i see, ty kryft
Zahlman [1k\]: true :)
grumpyjoe [-\]: although i hope he loses here
epoxygal [3k\]: alex is nice, but his marketing sucks. lol
namassst: i hope the 3p loses
]
;B[op]C[Zahlman [1k\]: but it's still 2nd line and gives w some ways to make defensive moves
kryft [1k\]: Kickchon, For dan ranks it's tricky, because technically you can only get those by performing well in a tournament, so KGS 5 dans have started their tournament careers as 1 kyus. :)
ZothOmmog [4k\]: p4~
namassst: europeans players very bad
NorthWind [5k\]: dunno, anyone successful attracts critics
namassst: go W!
]
;W[mq]C[Zahlman [1k\]: anyway, this is still not easy for w
alexanderp [?\]: I don't know, but epoxygal SPAMS all kibitzes with "dinershteyn is bad marteting guy" for the last 5 days. It's a bit over the line already.
Ignatius [1k\]: grubbyfork - kghin and only 35 observers )))
xDragon [?\]: epoxy is marketing alex quite well then
Laman [1d\]: why cant we bet on this board?
miguelsan [5k\]: can soebody send me the link for eurogotv
namassst: no
epoxygal [3k\]: i like alex and all... u know....
alexanderp [?\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/EuroGoTV2
]
;B[np]C[Zahlman [1k\]: I'm happy that dinerchstein has these things to advertise that he does...
miguelsan [5k\]: ty
alexanderp [?\]: No, you don't.
epoxygal [3k\]: he is soft spoken, nice guy
grumpyjoe [-\]: i really don't like it when people call him a fake pro
Syptryn [3d\]: !!!
grumpyjoe [-\]: a pro is a pro
Trivia [2k?\]: alex is no weaker than janice kim
Lancetre [1d\]: why not R11 for W ?
martin3141 [1d\]: cause it's small
Syptryn [3d\]: ...
ThiGar [5k\]: not yet
alexanderp [?\]: And you just spoil his reputation and he doesn't deserve it. He does for Go much much more than you will ever do.
]
;W[jq]C[namassst: b no pro... he just automatic puts himself to pro but he has no prove of 3p^^
Lancetre [1d\]: small ?
Syptryn [3d\]: black letting white live too easily?
epoxygal [3k\]: he is not a fake pro, i bet he can probably make 10 times his pay now by going into marketing
pinpingho [-\]: well he is a honorary pro
Weishenme [4d\]: W Q11, WS10, WS9 after B cut at R12 , W S8 , and w lives in B's moyo
pinpingho [-\]: but he is a real one
gfdhff [4k\]: honorary 3p
namassst: yes not a true 3p but is a 3p
gfdhff [4k\]: he got 2p by himself
Kanin [-\]: maybe he just likes go and wants to work with go
FairyTale [4d\]: haters gonna hate
Syptryn [3d\]: is there any ppl in the west that is a true non-Jap pro?
alexanderp [?\]: The only person making marketing and black PR here is you, epoxygal.
eola [6k\]: how about commenting on the game 
epoxygal [3k\]: he likes to make money, believe me....
NorthWind [5k\]: also 7 times euro champion ... just lucky ?
namassst: yes
ogre [2d?\]: q4 stones were too weak to try and kill w invasion
gfdhff [4k\]: who doesnt like money ?
gfdhff [4k\]: ;p
Q161 [?\]: lol epox you have no clue what youre talking about
alexanderp [?\]: He is not Japanese pro, he studied in Korea.
xxxstar [8d?\]: K2.
Q161 [?\]: youre just bitter and jealous
Syptryn [3d\]: I know
Kour [4k\]: i do not like to make money..
namassst: alex likes money.. but he has no proves of pro.. his name not found on pro association nihon kin..
NschoTschi [-\]: Black is a professional website designer!
Syptryn [3d\]: but all westerners who have Non-Jap pros
Q161 [?\]: he helps the whole community and promotes go and you get angry lol
Syptryn [3d\]: are honourary
Trivia [2k?\]: Catalin is 5p so what?
Q161 [?\]: maybe he should live on welfare and never speak about go so you can be happy
Syptryn [3d\]: like they dwouldn't qualify if they weren't westerner
FairyTale [4d\]: maybe it's because he got his certificate from the hanguk kiwon rather than the nihon kiin.
alexanderp [?\]: Of course he's not on Nihon Kiin, he a Korean pro.
pinpingho [-\]: of course you won't find it on nihon kiin
notbert [7k\]: i think to push with h9 wasnt a good idea
pinpingho [-\]: ...
namassst: thats fake
namassst: ..
AliCeX [1k\]: kansai > nihon
Trivia [2k?\]: B will win
ogre [2d?\]: didnt catalin qualify normally as pro in japanese
epoxygal [3k\]: guys, learn how to sabaki here... dont waste a chance to learn this
enz8 [4k\]: ahahah paparazzo
wither [5k\]: theres eurogotv2 again
namassst: catalin a trully pro
wither [5k\]: sitting in chair lazy
apadox [8k\]: what is sabaki?
wither [5k\]: now she has a camera
namassst: but alex no pro.. thats i know im no joking
Kour [4k\]: sabaki is light play
namassst: he strong but no certificated :D
alexanderp [?\]: Well, Ilya already beaten Catalin, right?
epoxygal [3k\]: what white is doing now is trying to sabaki then shinogi
A1R [4k\]: its rudi verhagen right?
apadox [8k\]: =
Renshuu02 [1k\]: sabaki doesn't mean light play i think
]
;B[ir]C[kurikuri [1d\]: no, that's what it means
epoxygal [3k\]: sabaki is light play and make shape
NorthWind [5k\]: no, pink stripes not egt2
Renshuu02 [1k\]: sabaki is a way of playing that allows to create life space
ogre [2d?\]: they arent like michael redmond tho
Weishenme [4d\]: Q2
namassst: sabaki i eat in every breakfast
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Catalin won hid pro degrees by playing; if he loses here it doesn't mean he loses his pro degree as well
pinpingho [-\]: sabaki doesn't mean light play,
gfdhff [4k\]: light shape
martin3141 [1d\]: q2?
FairyTale [4d\]: there is no direct translation of sabaki
pinpingho [-\]: it's actually pretty hard to explain
ZothOmmog [4k\]: sabaki is a kind of theater?
epoxygal [3k\]: sabaki means playing lightly to make shape, play flexibly
Kanin [-\]: fancy footwork
namassst: sabaki  is a nice food
epoxygal [3k\]: zoth, that is kabuki, pls
namassst: if you want prove find google
FairyTale [4d\]: same with haengma
grumpyjoe [-\]: if kgs puts a 'p' in their rank, thats pro enough for me
epoxygal [3k\]: fancy footwork is Saturday Night Fever, brother
gisel [3d\]: sabaki in translation is judgement or decision
pinpingho [-\]: it usually involve dealing with weak group
namassst: kgs is the most fake ranks ever
ogre [2d?\]: is michael redmond ever deployed to these international events?
kenjiro43 [6k\]: lol grumpyjoe
Syptryn [3d\]: white should be able to live....
namassst: haha.. admin can make 9p account for himself
ZothOmmog [4k\]: sabaki teryaki
Syptryn [3d\]: then black doesn't have much
grumpyjoe [-\]: then admin is pro
namassst: sure not
Imvatim [?\]: what's a good white follow-up here?
ogre [2d?\]: extranational
namassst: not cerficated..
martin3141 [1d\]: q2
namassst: alex is not and have 3p.. thats unfair
gisel [3d\]: on every go server admins can make pro accounts
epoxygal [3k\]: if sabaki is fancy footowork, what is shinogi?
Kanin [-\]: bapabarababam my sabaki is fantastic, badadadam
ogre [2d?\]: there are some pros from korea china and japan at egc.
ThiGar [5k\]: sabaki is fluffy like zabaglione
namassst: yes very better than kgs
FairyTale [4d\]: shinogi is just living in moyos
DrZoom [4k\]: Japanese breakfast
kenjiro43 [6k\]:  you are all pro, ok?
namassst: ok
kenjiro43 [6k\]: pl;s focus on the game
Syptryn [3d\]: if I were white, would just play q2 to live...
namassst: i cant focus this game boring alot
Dino9 [6d\]: w2 wouldn't live
martin3141 [1d\]: shinogi is to settle an unsettled group quickly
epoxygal [3k\]: so is white now Sabaki-ing or shinogi-ing?
Laman [1d\]: sabakiing
ZothOmmog [4k\]: both
epoxygal [3k\]: or commiting suicide?
pinpingho [-\]: well you don't need to watch namassst
ogre [2d?\]: q2 r2
Syptryn [3d\]: q2 seems hard to kill white
kenjiro43 [6k\]: I try to understand some moves here in order to grow my play8ing level
pinpingho [-\]: I suppose a lot of people already censored you namassst
ogre [2d?\]: maby not
namassst: thats true
epoxygal [3k\]: kenjiro, ask straight away what u dun understand
kryft [1k\]: pinpingho, o/
grumpyjoe [-\]: if w gets to h18 first, she is a gangsta
grumpyjoe [-\]: and i will forever be her fan
Syptryn [3d\]: q2 r2 k2 white looks hard to kill
ZothOmmog [4k\]: she could play it now
misjoe [2k\]: shinogi is the art of managing to make a group living in the end, so you can use sabaki in order to do shinogi
epoxygal [3k\]: the only time ilya doesnt walk around was when he played Kang
ogre [2d?\]: i think l2 better than k2
kenjiro43 [6k\]: I make pros, grumpyjoe make gangstas; LOL
gosimbal: kghin vs 9d are much exciting than this one.. bye guys
ogre [2d?\]: cause w stones pointing upward
wither [5k\]: Pink girl is on the move again
Higanbana [?\]: epo i think they both were undefeated when they played each other
epoxygal [3k\]: use sabaki to shinogi and after successful shinogi, go see kabuki then have sake shashimi
martin3141 [1d\]: maybe she thinks about jumping to k5, but that looks very risky
epoxygal [3k\]: i see, Higan, no wonder
Higanbana [?\]: it's what someone said
wither [5k\]: ilya needs to cough on pink girl
Goleath [1k\]: pink girl needs to eat some
Zahlman [1k\]: this invasion was difficult from the start
wither [5k\]: food everrated
Syptryn [3d\]: Illya opponent looks like ex-convict
wither [5k\]: remember gloeath they dont feed eurogo. they have to buy their own
AllNewSad [3d\]: q2 ?
Goleath [1k\]: Suptryn: He looks like a thin version of Vinnie Jones ;)
ogre [2d?\]: p2
taiji [2d\]: <3 I think I fell in love today <3
ogre [2d?\]: i think p2 might be a good move here
goth [?\]: csaba might have learned go in prison
dmf [14k\]: so, who's in better position now?
kenjiro43 [6k\]: prison?  y that?
epoxygal [3k\]: not easy for white to live now. better sacrifice and force from D7 area
wither [5k\]: noooo its scarf chewing man
ogre [2d?\]: prepare to jump at r2 and also you keep connected and pushing upward
Goleath [1k\]: now.. this is how rumours start hehe
wither [5k\]: get that guy out of here
NorthWind [5k\]: Gol ....lya looks like Stuart Pearce 
wither [5k\]: ilya looks like Death
epoxygal [3k\]: the hane at G9 looks like a must
Syptryn [3d\]: white should live without problems
wither [5k\]: i saw a rider on a pale horse...
Goleath [1k\]: Ilya looks like rudolf the red nosed raindeer tbh :P
axerf: where are the video of the players?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: if you wanna ride. ride a white horse
yamashitaK [5d\]: w must live here...
martin3141 [1d\]: q2 is the only move imo ... with p2 w cannot jump to s3 comfortably
ogre [2d?\]: not problem is to live its to live good way
ogre [2d?\]: p2 
yamashitaK [5d\]: q2 r2 k2
epoxygal [3k\]: can white live is she tenuki once? if no, how much can white get compensation if she tenuki?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: white dies tenukki
epoxygal [3k\]: but if dont plan to live there, better dont play P3 etc.
nasnad [2d\]: ?
epoxygal [3k\]: so conclusion is white will play there
wingnoll [11k\]: how is it to tell if they can make life ther or not?
Syptryn [3d\]: white can make Q-9 live too, though at penalty of spolting aji
ogre [2d?\]: what is wrong with p2
FunGoSage [2k\]: r2?
Syptryn [3d\]: P2 just not as cool as q2 :S
ogre [2d?\]: p2 r2 s2 s3 r3 s1 q2 t2 q3 q1 
endure [4d\]: q2 looks better
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;W[fp]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!
epoxygal [3k\]: EXCELLENT move
NorthWind [5k\]: q2 more q-ish
epoxygal [3k\]: i need to learn this
Xodd [13k\]: lol
stf7 [1k\]: hahha
wingnoll [11k\]: yes learn this move
Kanin [-\]: eurogotv got all the betting points?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: now black kills all
Xodd [13k\]: inconceivable!
wither [5k\]: wow
ogre [2d?\]: just what i mean is p2 and then r2 s2 and w can play s3
wither [5k\]: long distance grappling hook
epoxygal [3k\]: what a superb move!
wingnoll [11k\]: scaling the wall
kryft [1k\]: epoxygal, It's a standard move in this shape
ogre [2d?\]: why does that look inferior
holynec [?\]: can we bet on how long breakfast wil spend on this move?
epoxygal [3k\]: never in my 3k life will think of this move
holynec [?\]: rather than what move? ;\]
yamashitaK [5d\]: f5
ogre [2d?\]: rather than q2
martin3141 [1d\]: is there a reason why you all call this a superb move?
H16 [1d\]: w just tries to confuse things a bit...
yamashitaK [5d\]: or e5
goth [?\]: w doesn't seem to have a clear strategy to me
Warfreak2 [6d?\]: go kang!
martin3141 [1d\]: e5 should be enough
epoxygal [3k\]: martin, because it has a double hane
Trivia [2k?\]: captain the best!
grumpyjoe [-\]: i think roln has to hots for kang
epoxygal [3k\]: oh my captain!
ogre [2d?\]: w w try to pressure k3 stone more ?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: strategy is to wear short shorts... the best strategy there is.
nasnad [2d\]: e5 looks slow
wither [5k\]: no zoth
wither [5k\]: ilya has better strategy. he took his shirt off
epoxygal [3k\]: i think she was cautioned the other day not to wear sleveeless shirt
Blitzcore [3d\]: trivia is right: captain never looses - but right now it looks as if w is throwing stones at random?
Trivia [2k?\]: B sure like iron nails...
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;B[ip]C[Dupaaxe [?\]: Is a tric
ZothOmmog [4k\]: Its a trap!
wingnoll [11k\]: it's no fair his head is so much bigger than hers
wither [5k\]: its marketing!
stf7 [1k\]: why not fair?
epoxygal [3k\]: the problem with this move is white can still live with ko in the corner
wingnoll [11k\]: too shiny
Kour [4k\]: but knowing there is a trap is the first step in evading it
ogre [2d?\]: b still need a move to kill w
epoxygal [3k\]: yes, alex's marketing move... must play iron pillar
pinpingho [-\]: game looks better for b
Kanin [-\]: is this move really a good move to make money?
Q161 [?\]: lol
ZothOmmog [4k\]: its so money'
Syptryn [3d\]: its connect 5!
grumpyjoe [-\]: shiny head technique is devastating
Trivia [2k?\]: is bottom right cash?
Q161 [?\]: 9p kibbitz imo :D
ZothOmmog [4k\]: shinyest move in the 'verse
wingnoll [11k\]: w looks like she in some trouble here
Syptryn [3d\]: j4 must be confident is killing bo right
epoxygal [3k\]: Kanin, in marketing, this is called branding.. need not be good move byut must be branded move ok
ogre [2d?\]: w still have a move like s3 left for lower right
Kanin [-\]: patent pending?
epoxygal [3k\]: J4 is bad because of the corner aji. plus the R11 aji
epoxygal [3k\]: i like white now
pinpingho [-\]: w's whole territory is at max about the same as b's bottom right if w get h18
wither [5k\]: youre biased because you hatebreakfast
Kanin [-\]: with a passion at that
epoxygal [3k\]: who hate breakfast?
pinpingho [-\]: b still got the upper left and bottom left
Trivia [2k?\]: i ate breakfast
DeathWind [1k\]: breakfast is the best
Syptryn [3d\]: keep in minda aji at R-11
martin3141 [1d\]: w must live now, or the game will be over
epoxygal [3k\]: i like breakfast, he is nice and soft spoken... just that his marketing is annoying, thats all
Zahlman [1k\]: was just looking at that, syptryn
ckg [-\]: please keep the comments related to the game not whether you like or don't like the players
epoxygal [3k\]: yes, R11 is bad aji
AllNewSad [3d\]: s3 :\]
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;W[ri]C[Zahlman [1k\]: :O
fatihsulak [-\]: s3 funny :)
epoxygal [3k\]: ah, here it comes
ZothOmmog [4k\]: s11 :)
wingnoll [11k\]: yes, why not b c12 or somehthing crazy like this
ZothOmmog [4k\]: r11
Kanin [-\]: wow, this move is hot
Zahlman [1k\]: yeah, r11 I think
Zahlman [1k\]: ugly, but...
epoxygal [3k\]: it enables R9
fatihsulak [-\]: r9 maybe to prevent aji
Higanbana [?\]: this looks so hard for w
Syptryn [3d\]: does r-9 evenw ork?
clayton [-\]: csaba is toast on the other board
Zahlman [1k\]: r9 lets the top piece get cut off
ogre [2d?\]: r12 wil be sente
ZothOmmog [4k\]: r9 r11
Syptryn [3d\]: black just wants sente here
Zahlman [1k\]: "just"
Syptryn [3d\]: so he can play J-18....
wither [5k\]: csaba doesnt have to win the game. just has to last til ilya falls over dead
stf7 [1k\]: i think its 1st time that 2nd board gets so more attention then 1st :)
fatihsulak [-\]: if r11 then s3 
martin3141 [1d\]: seems like w is toying around
epoxygal [3k\]: Guys! admin already said leave comments on games only, not players, ok?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: every move was tenuki
wither [5k\]: ilya falling over dead from disease affects the game directly
ogre [2d?\]: tenuki is powerful
WVoron [4d\]: r12 
wither [5k\]: i stand by my comment
pinpingho [-\]: and yet every move is not 
ogre [2d?\]: r12 n14 
epoxygal [3k\]: no more comments on players please. let's analyse S11 together, ok?
Renshuu02 [1k\]: not responding to that move will cost a lot...
Trivia [2k?\]: the players are playing a very good game
wingnoll [11k\]: s11 looks hot also
wingnoll [11k\]: also it enables r9
epoxygal [3k\]: black cannot ignore that move
wingnoll [11k\]: aswell as possibly makien r6 life
Renshuu02 [1k\]: but R12 looks great because of the aji left with O14 and M11
ogre [2d?\]: remember folks that r12 is sente
epoxygal [3k\]: S17 will kill it immediately
Zahlman [1k\]: r11 r12 r10 r9 s10 s9 t11 s5, is it alive?
ogre [2d?\]: b is threaten with o15 p16 n13 and capturing w stones
wingnoll [11k\]: p14 aji could come into play soon
ZothOmmog [4k\]: s3 not s5
typohh [6k\]: anything but b r9 r10 r11 and q10 dies?
enz8 [4k\]: r12?
epoxygal [3k\]: to see this, think what is white threatening
NorthWind [5k\]: r10 seems playable
Zahlman [1k\]: s3 would be missing the point of r9 etc. ? :/
Renshuu02 [1k\]: Really R12 seems good enough, white needs to add a move in the center and then J18 is playable
Larrave [1d\]: i think the problem is that right group is not yet alie
Zahlman [1k\]: not understanding why r12 makes any real pressure...
Renshuu02 [1k\]: yeah but R12 kills S11
Renshuu02 [1k\]: connecting everything
pinpingho [-\]: r9 r10 q8 r11  s17 
Zahlman [1k\]: aren't the m11, o14 stones too weak?
epoxygal [3k\]: Mr. Milan Milan, what do u think?
Renshuu02 [1k\]: not because of O15
Optician [1k\]: one of w's threats at the moment is t12
Larrave [1d\]: r12 looks like too much aji
Renshuu02 [1k\]: P16
Renshuu02 [1k\]: N13
marajaa: b LOSE
Renshuu02 [1k\]: oww yeah
Larrave [1d\]: not sure
omega2004 [12k\]: dont you think white might live if b just connects with r12?
Larrave [1d\]: maybe hes thinking about that renshuu
pinpingho [-\]: if b r12 either w will live or b will die
Alternate [?\]: what about r12?
fatihsulak [-\]: seems like black has a better position
ogre [2d?\]: ok so maybe w can live on side while b forced to play s17
Zahlman [1k\]: r12 tenuki, o15 p16 n13 n14 n15 n12 p12 o12 m14 m12 , no problem?
Syptryn [3d\]: though with E-12
ogre [2d?\]: but s17 isnt small either
Syptryn [3d\]: R-12
Syptryn [3d\]: black gains
marajaa: thats really a fake pro.. by kgs...maybe he is a pro in his world :D but not on nihon kin .-.-
misjoe [2k\]: with R12, it seems like W gets too many forcing moves and gets more chances on the right side
NschoTschi [-\]: at least b has a much more safer position.
grubbber: well w great player
NschoTschi [-\]: b got a fat bottom
ogre [2d?\]: r12 is sente
falloutti [1d?\]: marajaa, you're lame
xDragon [?\]: he wouldnt be on the nihon because he went thru kansai
Syptryn [3d\]: r12 and white has amssive aji on top
blonpina [7k\]: R
pinpingho [-\]: just censor him falloutti
Alternate [?\]: cant see how w lives after r12
NorthWind [5k\]: hmm, grubbyfork played kghin while we were distracted here
epoxygal [3k\]: anything other than R10, black will be in trouble
Warfreak2 [6d?\]: milanmilan is also a pro not with the nihon kiin
ogre [2d?\]: this is a better game than kghin grubyfork
Warfreak2 [6d?\]: there are other countries than japan
zife [6k\]: censoring won't help, he already changed his name once (at least)
xDragon [?\]: now ancientgo and hutoshi are playing
ogre [2d?\]: because of time controls
martin3141 [1d\]: I would laugh if b plays tenuki to annoy w
epoxygal [3k\]: milan milan is italian pro
zife [6k\]: just ignore the troll and he'll quit soon enough
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;B[qk]C[NorthWind [5k\]: italian ?
misjoe [2k\]: aha
Optician [1k\]: is there a video feed today ? sorry if he question has been asked before...
Blitzcore [3d\]: nschotschi: why so rude to b?
grubbber: mamamia
epoxygal [3k\]: hey guys, again, don't talk about players, talk about the game, ok?
fatihsulak [-\]: r9 :)
Warfreak2 [6d?\]: don't hate the player, hate the game
Zahlman [1k\]: r11
grubbber: this game sucks!!
epoxygal [3k\]: yes, warfreak. 
ogre [2d?\]: w can play s17 
epoxygal [3k\]: atari then hane
Renshuu02 [1k\]: R10 white
ogre [2d?\]: well..
NschoTschi [-\]: is w close to rresign?
ogre [2d?\]: no way
ogre [2d?\]: w can still do lower right corner
Higanbana [?\]: still have to resolve the bottom
Alternate [?\]: after r 10 w still has to connect no good
NschoTschi [-\]: ogre how?
Syptryn [3d\]: white R-12 will give white sent
epoxygal [3k\]: white will reactivate the N3 stones
misjoe [2k\]: somewhere in that building, there must be a W close to resign, but maybe not on this board
ogre [2d?\]: s3 ideas
basil [3d\]: s3!
NorthWind [5k\]: r10 q8
Zahlman [1k\]: nscho, when the fight looks this promising? kidding?
Syptryn [3d\]: but is it good ernough?
martin3141 [1d\]: you don't need to observe this game if you dislike it
Renshuu02 [1k\]: R10 Q8 R12 (connected)
grumpyjoe [-\]: who's better milan?
Renshuu02 [1k\]: but
alexanderp [?\]: is n3 alive?
misjoe [2k\]: zahlman, the game doesn´t look kidding !
Renshuu02 [1k\]: S16 will be disconnected
Zahlman [1k\]: misjoe, how many games are being played, do you know?
Trivia [2k?\]: s17 sente
nanotech [2k\]: this game is in very early stage   - however it will finish suddenly
ogre [2d?\]: no s17 is gote
nasnad [2d\]: s16 will  live on its own if disc
mixed [2k?\]: haha bigdoug not more admin :D !!
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;W[eo]C[misjoe [2k\]: I read there´s something like 380+ players left
ogre [2d?\]: because s12 is sente
ZothOmmog [4k\]: woot!
NschoTschi [-\]: Is r12 cut sente against S16?
martin3141 [1d\]: w can play t12
wingnoll [11k\]: has breakfast ever played kgs high level dan's?
ogre [2d?\]: and w dont want to force b to s17
ZothOmmog [4k\]: yea
ogre [2d?\]: force b to take lots of points. not good
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;B[eq]C[NschoTschi [-\]: r12 cut and S3 kind of miai?
ogre [2d?\]: i dont think r12 is good
RobSchley [7k\]: wow
RobSchley [7k\]: still no j18
ogre [2d?\]: for w
wasd [6d\]: r12 
NschoTschi [-\]: maybe not r12 but the caut there
NschoTschi [-\]: I like r12 thoug
alexanderp [?\]: Now Ilya looks at the breakfast's game. He looks...well, does anybody watch "Prison Break"?:)
martin3141 [1d\]: w can play t12 :)
ogre [2d?\]: i dont like force b to s17
mur [1k\]: does w R11 b R10 - w T12 work?
Trivia [2k?\]: he looks like 90% of russian guys
ogre [2d?\]: maybe i think too simplistic
epoxygal [3k\]: looks like a bad game for white
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;W[qi]C[Larrave [1d\]: did ilya just go on the board making a move without sit down?
]
;B[pl]C[ogre [2d?\]: she just went there
nasnad [2d\]: only half way
Trivia [2k?\]: wow so confusing so many forcing moves
mixed [-\]: w is eliminating his own aji
Higanbana [?\]: s8?
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;W[qh]
;B[rc]C[alexanderp [?\]: i still don't the status of k3-n3
ogre [2d?\]: r12 s17 s18 t14 
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;W[rb]C[epoxygal [3k\]: silty
mur [1k\]: why not w t12?
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;B[sf]
;W[hb]C[RobSchley [7k\]: ouch
jwc [-\]: w wants to get t11 in sente
NschoTschi [-\]: wow
Larrave [1d\]: t12 doesnt change anything
mixed [-\]: now game begin
Syptryn [3d\]: wha
iancho [1d\]: s3 coming
Syptryn [3d\]: now quite even
martin3141 [1d\]: !!
pinpingho [-\]: actually w get t11?
NschoTschi [-\]: H18 pure cash $$
ogre [2d?\]: b kill aji in lower right
RobSchley [7k\]: breakfast looks pissed
kukulis4 [2d\]: s3 may live in corner ?
pinpingho [-\]: t11 then s8
epoxygal [3k\]: european top amateurs vs asian mediocre amateurs
mixed [-\]: breakfast need overplay in someplace lols
holynec [?\]: cash cash cash
holynec [?\]: time for las vegaS!
martin3141 [1d\]: w wants to play c5
epoxygal [3k\]: this is a good game
Weishenme [4d\]: W T11 sente , for connection at S8
apadox [8k\]: another 9d-8d game going
Syptryn [3d\]: mmm
ThePoint [2d\]: Ilia have a bad couhg
Syptryn [3d\]: looka likw Q=5
ogre [2d?\]: s3 s4 q2 r2 r3 q3 s2 p2 r1 
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;B[gj]C[gisel [3d\]: c13?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: t11 huge
Syptryn [3d\]: looks like W+5
MilanMilan [9d\]: b not bad 
Weishenme [4d\]: cut !!!!
epoxygal [3k\]: ilya has recovered from the fight with Kang the other day
epoxygal [3k\]: i like black
grumpyjoe [-\]: roln seems to be more preoccupied with this game than his own
Syptryn [3d\]: s8 and white links though
ZothOmmog [4k\]: i like short shorts
Syptryn [3d\]: so this is not good
RobSchley [7k\]: how much time do they have?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i'll check
ZothOmmog [4k\]: so does roln
epoxygal [3k\]: he was like that in his game with catalin too
wither [5k\]: roln add
NorthWind [5k\]: loads
Warfreak2 [6d?\]: go kyoungnang!
eatramen [21k\]: !!!!!!!!!
ogre [2d?\]: roln is infatuated
Syptryn [3d\]: g9 possible?
NschoTschi [-\]: MilanMilan is anything possible in lower right or is that just ko threats?
Larrave [1d\]: pro says b not bad
Weishenme [4d\]: g9 seems dangerous for B
Larrave [1d\]: :)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: dinerstein has 1:16 min left kang: 1.29
nasnad [2d\]: g9 looks dangeorus for w
Higanbana [?\]: would g9 be worth more than getting a move on the bottom right?
RobSchley [7k\]: 1 hour 16 minutes?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yep
RobSchley [7k\]: wow
epoxygal [3k\]: G9 is dangerous but is white's hope
RobSchley [7k\]: ok
Syptryn [3d\]: t11 t12 s8 looks massive
Syptryn [3d\]: sente too...
Syptryn [3d\]: almost
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;W[gi]C[Syptryn [3d\]: s3 becomes huge follow-up after that
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Ilya took his clothes on =D
NschoTschi [-\]: f11 
Larrave [1d\]: oh no
Larrave [1d\]: ilyas shadow dance!
Larrave [1d\]: xD
ogre [2d?\]: that is ilia in back on video
grumpyjoe [-\]: he was trying to impress kang but didn't work
falloutti [1d?\]: illidan
octavius [8k?\]: u have the link plz?
martin3141 [1d\]: I think t11 is not sente against s15
Syptryn [3d\]: I donb't think double hane possible
alexanderp [?\]: looks like he doesn't care about his own game
octavius [8k?\]: u have the link plz?
Q161 [?\]: hes probably....SICK of it?!?!?
Q161 [?\]: aahahahaha
alexanderp [?\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/EuroGoTV2
octavius [8k?\]: thx
ogre [2d?\]: it would be good if ilia finds some kind of tea of something that would calm his nerves
NorthWind [5k\]: hmm, W top side seems to be 70 pts
epoxygal [3k\]: hey ilya, leave those H1N1 to yourself man
kukulis4 [2d\]: if black adds a move at bottom then bottom is worth about 70 pts also
Optician [1k\]: if w t11 tenuki t12 b looks dead
ogre [2d?\]: well yes. t11 would be sente
Syptryn [3d\]: therefore s-8 is utterly massive
ogre [2d?\]: w play s8 before t11
ZothOmmog [4k\]: t11 first
jwc [-\]: t12 first
ZothOmmog [4k\]: yeah
ZothOmmog [4k\]: maybe
ZothOmmog [4k\]: no
Optician [1k\]: no, t12 doesn't connect up to s8
ogre [2d?\]: s3 first is fine
Blitzcore [3d\]: how much time do they have left?
jwc [-\]: t12 s15 t11 t13
pinpingho [-\]: but t11 does optician
NschoTschi [-\]: more than 1h each
Daoloth [-\]: b7 looks biggish as well, but too early i guess
kukulis4 [2d\]: which moves order is best is over my level understanding
jwc [-\]: if just t11 b answers t12
Weishenme [4d\]: yes and w can jump at s8
ogre [2d?\]: just kibitzing about it does not mean understand anything
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;B[cg]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: anyway, if black blocak with s9 before white made any move, then white still has s3 to live in corner
ogre [2d?\]: that there 
ogre [2d?\]: didnt expect it
ZothOmmog [4k\]: t12 more points than t11
Totti10 [4k\]: wow
Weishenme [4d\]: B angry, feeling behind...
vannab [3k\]: w terrirory secure now while b has bad aji
NorthWind [5k\]: a camper arrived
jwc [-\]: right Zoth, thats it
kukulis4 [2d\]: so I expect black playing s5 for defending his moyo
apadox [8k\]: a wild camper apeared
NschoTschi [-\]: I've never seen Dinerchtein invading. can he play that style?
Song17 [4d\]: b feeling time pressure...
Goleath [1k\]: Dinerstein doesn't get angry
MilanMilan [9d\]: Nice move
fatihsulak [-\]: if black had played r12 then he could have played f11 here
Q161 [?\]: milan who is winning?
alexanderp [?\]: Milan, has b a chance to live?
NschoTschi [-\]: w just b15 
holynec [?\]: oo milan agrees with black
pinpingho [-\]: don't think w can easily capture this
alexanderp [?\]: And what you can say about strength of b?:)
kukulis4 [2d\]: hehe
jwc [-\]: standard tesuji
Am [5d\]: is it standart tessuji in this joseki?
mFz [3k\]: why is this move a nice ov
mFz [3k\]: a nice move?
Song17 [4d\]: is it?
fatihsulak [-\]: b16 b15 c15 
Song17 [4d\]: it is..
MilanMilan [9d\]: should be
Q161 [?\]: milan is anyone ahead?
kukulis4 [2d\]: if black cuts at e15 then white has d14
kryft [1k\]: Heh, I saw this move just yesterday in a fuseki book I was reading. :)
MilanMilan [9d\]: now w should play b15
apadox [8k\]: leave milan alone :(
MilanMilan [9d\]: and b c10
Am [5d\]: thay both know it  :-)
kenjiro43 [6k\]: b16 is bad?
falloutti [1d?\]: leave britney alone
MilanMilan [9d\]: if w play c11
ogre [2d?\]: this is threat of b16 b15 c15 b17 a16 a15 e15 a17 b16 a16 d15 b16 ?
NschoTschi [-\]: he MM B15 was my move :)
MilanMilan [9d\]: b will b16 and c15
Weishenme [4d\]: B15 standard answer
ogre [2d?\]: so there would be a ko where b can eat first
Syptryn [3d\]: woa
taiji [2d\]: deep invasion
ogre [2d?\]: b16 b15 c15 b17 a16 c14 b14 d15 a14 a17 a15 b13 c15 ko
holynec [?\]: dont try this at home kids
Am [5d\]: milan, who staying better here (for u)?
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;W[do]C[GoGovn [8k\]: b15
martin3141 [1d\]: does q2 work for w to live?
Syptryn [3d\]: hoho
kenjiro43 [6k\]: stranger
ogre [2d?\]: i think move in lower right is s3 not q2 martin
Alternate [?\]: this is strange seems to little concerned about c13 now b16 c15
NorthWind [5k\]: is d5 sente ?
Syptryn [3d\]: white has a lot of threats to live on bot right
]
;B[bd]C[pinpingho [-\]: w preparing for the ko?
jwc [-\]: b16 b15 c15 c14 b14 d15 a15 
Zahlman [1k\]: b thinks not, northwind
]
;W[be]
;B[ce]
;W[de]C[Alternate [?\]: as i said :-)
]
;B[bf]C[pinpingho [-\]: w will get lots of ko threat at d4
Zahlman [1k\]: whoa
]
;W[ae]C[ogre [2d?\]: also ko
ZothOmmog [4k\]: no ko
ogre [2d?\]: w eat first
Zahlman [1k\]: d14 ko
Syptryn [3d\]: isn't this really vbad if black wins though?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: d14 b17
]
;B[df]C[Syptryn [3d\]: like worse than the other variation
]
;W[cf]C[Alternate [?\]: still f11 aji b will live
Zahlman [1k\]: not b17, zoth, since d14 is atari
ZothOmmog [4k\]: atari smatari
ogre [2d?\]: this is better ko for w tho so my sequence was dumb
fatihsulak [-\]: a ko that white has like 20 threats :)
ZothOmmog [4k\]: b17
Dupaaxe [?\]: B is good at ko 
Syptryn [3d\]: black has lots of threats too...
Syptryn [3d\]: p17 
chimbba [2k\]: h11 to start with
nasnad [2d\]: i prefer black nos
nasnad [2d\]: now
ogre [2d?\]: w look confident with this
Alternate [?\]: now b has ko to reduce territory that good for b 
Weishenme [4d\]: this girl has no fears
martin3141 [1d\]: I like q17
Zahlman [1k\]: w has a lot of threats, but it's hard to say which are big enough
NschoTschi [-\]: both have many threats
ogre [2d?\]: d5 is worth playing
Zahlman [1k\]: uh, d5 has been played
ogre [2d?\]: yea
kukulis4 [2d\]: if black wins this ko, its huge
ogre [2d?\]: w played it and allowing this ko
Optician [1k\]: losing a15/b15 stones is not too bad if p3 lives
Weishenme [4d\]: Milan milan what do you think about this ko ?
NschoTschi [-\]: if wins it it is as huge ^^
pinpingho [-\]: d4 is threat so is the cut after d4 
epoxygal [3k\]: picnic Ko for white
Daoloth [-\]: o15 seems like a nice threat
Zahlman [1k\]: it's more than the 2 stones...
mFz [3k\]: i prefer to be white here
]
;B[fi]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: picnic ko for black not  for white
ogre [2d?\]: this is morepicnic for b than w
]
;W[fj]C[Syptryn [3d\]: lol now it'll ghet messy
]
;B[ce]C[Zahlman [1k\]: this is like a picnic eaten with swords
Weishenme [4d\]: what thinks milan milan ?
NschoTschi [-\]: e15 ?
Dupaaxe [?\]: supose B win b17  ?
Syptryn [3d\]: e15 first?
Alternate [?\]: b will ignore anything
pinpingho [-\]: not really
Totti10 [4k\]: e15
kukulis4 [2d\]: white E15
Weishenme [4d\]: first w will connect 
martin3141 [1d\]: t11?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: e15
kukulis4 [2d\]: and then second time ko
Syptryn [3d\]: I dunno, s-3 looks had to ignore
pinpingho [-\]: d4 is threat big enough
ZothOmmog [4k\]: e15 mfirst
fatihsulak [-\]: e15 is the best threat
Alternate [?\]: e15
ogre [2d?\]: e15 b17 c14 
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;W[jr]C[yamashitaK [5d\]: haha
kukulis4 [2d\]: hm
chimbba [2k\]: uh
soulangel [3d\]: anyone has the link pls?
kukulis4 [2d\]: is k2 enough ?
Dino9 [6d\]: I would E15
ogre [2d?\]: link to the feed?
yamashitaK [5d\]: I dont get it 
ZothOmmog [4k\]: e15 for sure
Alternate [?\]: e15 is 35+
nasnad [2d\]: can b end ko if e15?
yamashitaK [5d\]: why not e15 first
ogre [2d?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
kukulis4 [2d\]: weird
yamashitaK [5d\]: yes
ZothOmmog [4k\]: egastly
pinpingho [-\]: well the ko become smaller if e15
yamashitaK [5d\]: I would take now directly
Zahlman [1k\]: because 5 more stones is not a big addition to the value of letting b get in
Dupaaxe [?\]: B is atari but sometime later
soulangel [3d\]: thx
ogre [2d?\]: b e15 interesting
NorthWind [5k\]: yes e15 cos n3 may live later anyway
pinpingho [-\]: if w don't e15 w can remove win the ko by playing at b14
Totti10 [4k\]: b should answer
pinpingho [-\]: b17*
muellparty [2d\]: maybe w needs winning the ko by connecting c14 in order to prevent b from living
Alternate [?\]: w should have played e15 in any case!!!
ogre [2d?\]: mutual destruction
ogre [2d?\]: actually
Zahlman [1k\]: what's the local response to k2 anyway?
ogre [2d?\]: i like w after that
Optician [1k\]: i think w wants b to play e15
Syptryn [3d\]: black can't answer really... there's too many threats
ogre [2d?\]: i think w ahead after e15
Alternate [?\]: k2 q2
Warfreak2 [6d?\]: black also has many threats in top right
ZothOmmog [4k\]: why doesnt b just e15?
Warfreak2 [6d?\]: with q18 peep, p17 peep and then jump to n17
fujichan [-\]: Take !
Warfreak2 [6d?\]: many threats
]
;B[jp]C[NschoTschi [-\]: e15 would have given b A14
Syptryn [3d\]: though capturing would end in loss for black
]
;W[cf]C[Syptryn [3d\]: so guess black has to fight
]
;B[gk]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: g9 that big?
MoeTheDoom [5k\]: белый выиграет?
NschoTschi [-\]: threatensh11 
ogre [2d?\]: g9 good threat
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: по-моему девка поплыла
Zahlman [1k\]: g9 gives b all kinds of fighting options
Syptryn [3d\]: c15 f12 g12 e10 f9 e9 f8 e8 f7 d11 
alexanderp [?\]: почему это?
Syptryn [3d\]: white side gone...
alexanderp [?\]: нормально играет ко
Alternate [?\]: why didnt b take at e15?
ogre [2d?\]: g9 threat to eat g11 or kill p13 stones
alexanderp [?\]: but anyway we're rooting for Alex
Syptryn [3d\]: not big enougj
ogre [2d?\]: or kill m10 stones
NorthWind [5k\]: root root
macisajt [7d\]: haha, q13!
ZothOmmog [4k\]: c15
ogre [2d?\]: if b get to eat g11 its a good threat
kukulis4 [2d\]: well ... they are 7d and 3p .. 
Farcas [3d\]: milan what you thonk about this game ?can you estimate score?
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: ко выгодно черным, разве нет? Они так и так разрушат
alexanderp [?\]: Apocalyptica plays "Ruska" now. Can anyone Finnish say what Ruska means? sorry for offtop, but always interested
pinpingho [-\]: well w can't ignore here
kukulis4 [2d\]: выгодно канешно
zife [6k\]: alexander, ruska means the autumn colours of leaves
falloutti [1d?\]: ruska means nothing
kukulis4 [2d\]: вопрос достаточно ли
alexanderp [?\]: zife, yellow?
alexanderp [?\]: oh
zife [6k\]: leaves aren't just yellow in autumn
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: чуваки опять наезжают на русских :)
alexanderp [?\]: нет, нет
kukulis4 [2d\]: :)
FFH [2k\]: ruska = death of leaf in autumn
zife [6k\]: there's article on ruska in wikipedia, you can see the pictures there
alexanderp [?\]: thanks
ckg [-\]: keep game the focus of yr chat, thanks
macisajt [7d\]: d5!!!4
furr [?\]: ruska is in autumn in Lapland, when leafs start do die and the colours are really nice
Zahlman [1k\]: d5 is a w stone...
Warfreak2 [6d?\]: go korea
Dupaaxe [?\]: w ignore
chimbba [2k\]: eating the mug?
ogre [2d?\]: im pretty sure if w end ko b h11 and it destroys w top
kukulis4 [2d\]: if white connects now, what is next black move ?
Alternate [?\]: tasty i guess
macisajt [7d\]: go russia
hiss [-\]: o14 stones - many aji
FFH [2k\]: w eating her cup?
Warfreak2 [6d?\]: go korea
ogre [2d?\]: h11 destroys top
macisajt [7d\]: go russia
Warfreak2 [6d?\]: destroy russia
macisajt [7d\]: go russia
nasnad [2d\]: next b takes ko
Lesmian [1k\]: go korea
MoeTheDoom [5k\]: =)
macisajt [7d\]: go rusisia
Alternate [?\]: come on
Lesmian [1k\]: go girl
ogre [2d?\]: q12 stones may live with s9 tho
MoeTheDoom [5k\]: д4 хороший ход потом защититься с15 ?
hiss [-\]: how b h11 works if w ignore?
Effem [3k\]: man alex plays so simple and nice
kukulis4 [2d\]: g9  is beautifull :)
ogre [2d?\]: h11 g12 j11 l11 m12 l12 m13 l13 o15 p16 m14 s9 or something
Warfreak2 [6d?\]: white can connect at s8
fatihsulak [-\]: what is she ignores?
Alternate [?\]: still even game
Warfreak2 [6d?\]: it's delicious
ogre [2d?\]: dont know move orders or whatever
Dupaaxe [?\]: I think not work
Zahlman [1k\]: I think maybe m12 directly :)
eatramen [21k\]: ive seen quite a few vids with alex on youtube, he says he doesnt like plays that complicate the game @effem
Excalibor [-\]: white has a huge center and can reduce breakfast's from e5 though
Dupaaxe [?\]: g9 look like a trick
NorthWind [5k\]: funny how simple can be quite difficult to copy
Warfreak2 [6d?\]: g9 a real threat
Zahlman [1k\]: simple != easy
Veivi [4d\]: g9 looks like a move you want to play anyway, and are glad if you can get as a threat
nasnad [2d\]: g9 is huge
nasnad [2d\]: looks hard to ignore
ogre [2d?\]: and w will 100% let b eat g11 if b gets to play h11
NschoTschi [-\]: g12 as answer ok?
MilanMilan [9d\]: b leading
macisajt [7d\]: yes!!
Alternate [?\]: hard to calculate the proper follow up 
ZothOmmog [4k\]: aw
kukulis4 [2d\]: its hm, may be white may ignore and outplay black after black H11 ?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: i want w to win
Q161 [?\]: wooot
Q161 [?\]: go b!
kukulis4 [2d\]: I mean may be white may defent later against h11 ?
Trivia [2k?\]: wait macisajt is playing...
yamashitaK [5d\]: maybe b ahead ,but kang will win ^^ 
kukulis4 [2d\]: without answering now
yakotaki [-\]: Kang Kang Kyoung - Nang !!!
ogre [2d?\]: !!!!!
Q161 [?\]: kang will lose 0-2 to tha russians!
ogre [2d?\]: w play c15!
ogre [2d?\]: where are you eurogotv
Q161 [?\]: rusiskaya federatsiya!!
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;W[ei]C[macisajt [7d\]: russians do well against korean 
ogre [2d?\]: wjat
macisajt [7d\]: in congress
]
;B[ce]C[macisajt [7d\]: i appreciate
ogre [2d?\]: oh ok i mislooked the video
NorthWind [5k\]: is B Russian ?
nasnad [2d\]: if w doesnt answer then kiliing b13 has little value
erikk [-\]: ogre, s9 doesn't make an eye
ogre [2d?\]: thought w played at c15
macisajt [7d\]: f10:))
Alternate [?\]: r2
macisajt [7d\]: e11:) imean
Syptryn [3d\]: there going to be 1 million threats now
Syptryn [3d\]: I don't know who has more...
ogre [2d?\]: what is this way
MilanMilan [9d\]: later b will play p17
ogre [2d?\]: i dont understand e11
]
;W[pr]C[Optician [1k\]: seems to me that w just tested b's reaction by adjusting stone near c15
Syptryn [3d\]: e-11 bets that white has more threat bot than black top :D
Larrave [1d\]: sorry if you answered already milanmilan: but how is bottomaji?:)
GoIsBoring [3d\]: ignore
Medice [-\]: shouldn't white go with e15 first to make ko smaller..
hiss [-\]: m2 !
Alternate [?\]: e15 then f12 a ral threat no?
ogre [2d?\]: ug i think h11 is really dangerous
hiss [-\]: or ignore
NorthWind [5k\]: q2 group seems alive
ogre [2d?\]: i think b win this game
apadox [8k\]: eat?
GoIsBoring [3d\]: after e15 for b f12 continuation become very dangerous
KoReNJe [3d\]: o15
KoReNJe [3d\]: big
nasnad [2d\]: r2 i think
ogre [2d?\]: i think if b o15 it will eat p16
]
;B[qr]
;W[cf]C[MagicMike [6k\]: an interesting problem in game 1
ogre [2d?\]: interesting problem in game2 also
MilanMilan [9d\]: c9 also cool
Hello [2k\]: i don't understand why he responded? wouldn't killing been better?
]
;B[fh]C[ogre [2d?\]: maybe thats simpler
ogre [2d?\]: ok
N4KED [1d\]: t11 sente and then connect under
NschoTschi [-\]: h11 
nasnad [2d\]: b has 20 threats left
ogre [2d?\]: wow. they have nerves of steel
ogre [2d?\]: w has nerves of steel anyway
Trivia [2k?\]: you sure nasnad?
nasnad [2d\]: yes
]
;W[hh]
;B[ce]
;W[rr]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: now its a real treat
kukulis4 [2d\]: I mean F12
NschoTschi [-\]: when did b lose last time to a female player?
carlo [2d?\]: e15 
Blitzcore [3d\]: 20 threats... i cannot count them... :(
Trivia [2k?\]: i only count 19
taiji [2d\]: I feel breakfast will eat this game
NschoTschi [-\]: any statistics?
Hello [2k\]: D: is that move really that big?
Sjonny [8k\]: Who cares just focuss on the game more important
Alternate [?\]: e15 r3 q3 r1 p2 ?
NotAfraid [3d\]: black is breakfast??
NorthWind [5k\]: on his wife's birthday ?
Sjonny [8k\]: yes
Blitzcore [3d\]: yes he is
Sjonny [8k\]: Diner = breakfast
kimball [4d?\]: is w really dead at the bottom i wonder
Alternate [?\]: not p2 o3 sorry
kukulis4 [2d\]: black cannot play r1
kukulis4 [2d\]: just r3
tohnoakiha [3k?\]: e15 now?
]
;B[qq]
;W[cf]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: but then white gets another treat - r1
Farcas [3d\]: einstein .dinerstein .frekingstein ::))
nejikashin [6k\]: xD
kukulis4 [2d\]: frankenstain ;)
ogre [2d?\]: o9 now?
nasnad [2d\]: b is gaining in the ko all the time
zc3k [1k\]: ultra super strong
MilanMilan [9d\]: F12 not good
Sjonny [8k\]: p 17 ?
kukulis4 [2d\]: why ?
NotAfraid [3d\]: profenstain
kukulis4 [2d\]: why f12 not good ?
NotAfraid [3d\]: bublestain
carlo [2d?\]: o15 
Sjonny [8k\]: MM what about p 17 ?
]
;B[ek]
;W[ej]C[Lovro06 [3k\]: fidelstein Steva
]
;B[ce]C[NotAfraid [3d\]: morningstain
]
;W[qs]C[ckg [-\]: please stay focused on the game thanks
MilanMilan [9d\]: p17 sirst should be better
NotAfraid [3d\]: now E15?
Sjonny [8k\]: yay
kukulis4 [2d\]: I c
sgjiehui [3d?\]: ??
Sjonny [8k\]: Thank you ^^
simpliciy [3k\]: e15!
alexanderp [?\]: now both games - breakfast's and roln' - are so interesting
taiji [2d\]: ah better to keep aji options around d14 then?
nasnad [2d\]: i bet b answers
Trivia [2k?\]: ignore!
Optician [1k\]: why should b let w live now and play e15?
NorthWind [5k\]: now 515 observers. still rising
]
;B[lr]
;W[cf]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: if black played r3 then must answer the r1 too
Mekanik [5d\]: i dont understand this ko fight, isnt black leading a lot if he takes?
Sjonny [8k\]: p 17 soon
taiji [2d\]: too beautiful to ignore her
alexanderp [?\]: g11?
Warfreak2 [6d?\]: not if w lives at n3
Warfreak2 [6d?\]: because r6 can also connect up
Warfreak2 [6d?\]: white has t12 and t11 in sente and then s8 to connect
Sjonny [8k\]: White looks big on top
ogre [2d?\]: this is crazy. there have been all kinds of big go games to watch recently
NotAfraid [3d\]: but if w will win in this ko he wiil win the game
ZothOmmog [4k\]: she
kukulis4 [2d\]: white will play e15 once
ogre [2d?\]: why dont they do this all year
Sjonny [8k\]: maby money
]
;B[hi]C[ogre [2d?\]: i need this entertainment
]
;W[ii]
;B[ce]
;W[lq]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: w wins!
Sjonny [8k\]: 7 dan against 3p i thought that was a lot of difference in strength
]
;B[js]C[falloutti [1d?\]: ogre, they do this every year
alexanderp [?\]: she's an insei
]
;W[cf]C[falloutti [1d?\]: it's called go congress, it's held once a year
alexanderp [?\]: 7d is 9d kgs
Sjonny [8k\]: How old is she ?
alexanderp [?\]: 20
A1R [4k\]: wasnt she?
Excalibor [-\]: what's her account, by the way?
Sjonny [8k\]: I thought insei goes to 18 years
ogre [2d?\]: w is insei?
canizar: doesnt matter who win ko matter is compensation
A1R [4k\]: and not is
ogre [2d?\]: no i mean do all year long
NorthWind [5k\]: older than yesterday
FFH [2k\]: what is insei?
ogre [2d?\]: every day
nasnad [2d\]: when you move from strong ama to p you dont magically gain lots of strength
]
;B[cl]C[falloutti [1d?\]: ah, read wrong
Excalibor [-\]: ah, very nice move!
martin3141 [1d\]: this game is epic
alexanderp [?\]: Milan was speaking of c9
ogre [2d?\]: if you are pro you must study all go it must be crazy
Neverhood [3k\]: whie might actually ignore....
ZothOmmog [4k\]: not
nasnad [2d\]: w is toast
Higanbana [?\]: yeah looks bad nasnad
huli [1k\]: but i thought b was breakfast
alexanderp [?\]: it looks like with every ko iteration b has more and more deadly threats
alexanderp [?\]: and w has the same "i will live at the bottom"
alexanderp [?\]: till the moment when it doesn't live
ogre [2d?\]: d8 looks like it works
nanotech [2k\]: WHEN IT DOESN'T MATTER YOU MEAN
ogre [2d?\]: thats alot of ko threats tho
NschoTschi [-\]: HERE WE ANOTHER IMPACT OF d(
NschoTschi [-\]: D8
NschoTschi [-\]: sry
NorthWind [5k\]: so much reading to do ..
]
;W[dp]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: loz
ckg [-\]: please don't use all caps thanks
Suvi [1d\]: don't shout, please
NschoTschi [-\]: wrong chat
]
;B[dq]
;W[cq]
;B[bq]
;W[cr]C[Higanbana [?\]: w wins the top half of the board, black wins the bottom half, lets just call it a tie
]
;B[br]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: lets call the whole thing off
grumpyjoe [-\]: this ko is remarkable because i have no idea whats going on
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: haha
grumpyjoe [-\]: lets just say that kang wins
XRF [1d\]: cannot see how black can win from here
Goleath [1k\]: the size of the ko is hard to count too..
Syptryn [3d\]: white obviously wants to settle group in sente..
kenjiro43 [6k\]: grumpyjoe: she moved h18
kenjiro43 [6k\]: ;)
]
;W[dk]C[XRF [1d\]: w b4, c6, c7, f3
]
;B[ce]C[nasnad [2d\]: b 80% win
]
;W[kq]C[zhou901108 [1d\]: what's status for bottom right group
]
;B[ks]
;W[cf]C[Neverhood [3k\]: dead
Sjonny [8k\]: bottom is so annoying for black
NorthWind [5k\]: yeah, keeps having to reasses it. if you get it wrong once ....
blitz99: m2 is alive for now
kukulis4 [2d\]: n2 ?
kukulis4 [2d\]: first s3 Ithink
kukulis4 [2d\]: but no, white is dead
Syptryn [3d\]: s3 yose losing ko threat
Syptryn [3d\]: not good
Neverhood [3k\]: s3 is nothing
mFz [3k\]: i wonder if t11 is big enough for this ko ?
nasnad [2d\]: yes
NorthWind [5k\]: s3 then s4 is something
blitz99: d8
Kickchon [?\]: how long have they been playing already?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 3h
ogre [2d?\]: wow time flies
Neverhood [3k\]: black is running out of ko threats....
ogre [2d?\]: i like how they dont take a lunch break 
Higanbana [?\]: this has been a really interesting game
NotAfraid [3d\]: P15?
Neverhood [3k\]: has been ? :-)
NotAfraid [3d\]: 16*
LGLifeGood [1k\]: w on bottom was dead ? 
Higanbana [?\]: still dead just being used as ko threats
]
;B[bo]
;W[ce]C[NotAfraid [3d\]: D8
ogre [2d?\]: b was looking up furtively
taiji [2d\]: she put that one firmly in
ogre [2d?\]: what does it mean?
Neverhood [3k\]: time to kill
Neverhood [3k\]: or to resign
NschoTschi [-\]: Kang!!!
cuby [2k?\]: look at her flip stones
mikan [2d\]: kill what?
taiji [2d\]: b think he can eat her
kukulis4 [2d\]: may be white will survive, but white will  have no points in the left side 
kryft [1k\]: NschoTschi, Did you shout that like 'KHAAAAAAAN'?
taiji [2d\]: d5 was enough!
RobSchley [7k\]: this is brutal
NschoTschi [-\]: kryft almost yes!
kukulis4 [2d\]: anyway, after these ko threats white doesnt have s3 move and black s9 completely secures black's territory
LGLifeGood [1k\]: d8 ?
XRF [1d\]: I still cannot see how black can win
nasnad [2d\]: hehe
sgjiehui [3d?\]: black losing
nasnad [2d\]: I say b win
]
;B[cm]C[mikan [2d\]: Agreed
sgjiehui [3d?\]: how much is komi?
GoatCheese [1k\]: was this game even?
mFz [3k\]: y
taiji [2d\]: if that isn't connected, I will eat my hat
falloutti [1d?\]: komi = 6,5
cuby [2k?\]: mmmm haaaat
sgjiehui [3d?\]: oh tks
kryft [1k\]: taiji, That being what?
Mekanik [5d\]: Black D8 didnt work?
Neverhood [3k\]: black is so.... scroo-bee-doo-bee-doo!
taiji [2d\]: d5
kryft [1k\]: Right
]
;W[fm]C[sgjiehui [3d?\]: b10 is quite big
nocturne19 [2k\]: the game's favour for w, isn't it?
NschoTschi [-\]: y not f3 first?
yamashitaK [5d\]: t11 t12 s8 is tooo big
]
;B[bj]C[mikan [2d\]: Game always favor p
]
;W[bk]C[taiji [2d\]: I thought d8 did work but only basic read
cuby [2k?\]: f3 = potential dead shape?
sgjiehui [3d?\]: u was right!
]
;B[ck]
;W[bi]C[GoatCheese [1k\]: surely black is winning this
]
;B[cj]
;W[ci]C[mobese [4d\]: t11 big
yamashitaK [5d\]: yep
Trivia [2k?\]: B take points here and move to the right side
epoxygal [3k\]: black win
Madzilla [5d?\]: B clearly leading
ogre [2d?\]: b f3
taiji [2d\]: h19
alexanderp [?\]: he counts:)
Fredegas [4d\]: which yose now? 
GoatCheese [1k\]: the white territory looks to be around 80 points
kryft [1k\]: Hmm, was this bigger for white than t11 s8?
ogre [2d?\]: s9
taiji [2d\]: s9 is hugest
nyuuhaafu [1k\]: yes... i would say B wins by 9.5 points
kryft [1k\]: I assume black will play s9 now.
NotAfraid [3d\]: S9
taiji [2d\]: but get some sente first?
Koukkaaja [3d\]: t9
Madzilla [5d?\]: the endgame with T11 is huge
NorthWind [5k\]: d8
fatihsulak [-\]: f3 also big?
Moin9 [3k\]: what is this? hmm a lot of big teritorities
Syptryn [3d\]: s9 
Syptryn [3d\]: huge
GoatCheese [1k\]: maybe 70 points actually
NotAfraid [3d\]: lol
NotAfraid [3d\]: 20-30
NschoTschi [-\]: b+5 about
Fredegas [4d\]: any chance for black to play h19 in sente? 
ogre [2d?\]: i guess t9 is better than s9
Julian1 [2d\]: t11 is much bigger than s9
Moin9 [3k\]: can white come in around E8??????
GoatCheese [1k\]: what is 20-30?
ogre [2d?\]: t11 for black?
Goleath [1k\]: isnt t11 sente?
Julian1 [2d\]: t11, something, s8
ogre [2d?\]: we talking about b moves
headache [2d\]: The game is very close
Julian1 [2d\]: t11 black, yes
kryft [1k\]: Moin9, ... Come in around e8? Seems lik e white is quite in around e8 already
ogre [2d?\]: no i dont get what u mean
kukulis4 [2d\]: may be t18 frst ?
Coray [8k\]: woahhh
Higanbana [?\]: w resign soon?
Weishenme [4d\]: why on hell W did not played M2 instead of T2 ??? the game would be over
taiji [2d\]: breakfast gooood in yose so we can learn something
Fredegas [4d\]: t18 is better than s9 directly I feel
Syptryn [3d\]: s9 
mobese [4d\]: b+6.5 :)ı counted
dfer: white win
]
;B[rk]
;W[co]C[Trivia [2k?\]: heh
]
;B[bp]
;W[fq]
;B[dr]
;W[er]
;B[cs]C[Neverhood [3k\]: wow. s9.
grumpyjoe [-\]: no wonder the other game is progressing so slow, roln is constantly over here
Fredegas [4d\]: ok s9 was probably must
]
;W[sh]C[N4KED [1d\]: white only 1 territory
WVoron [4d\]: s9? f3 bigger?
eatramen [21k\]: illia is always so antsy
sgjiehui [3d?\]: b lose
N4KED [1d\]: so seems she lost
DrZoom [4k\]: Ilia is spreading viruses...
WVoron [4d\]: )
ogre [2d?\]: how is f3 bigger when w could play s8 jump voron
Syptryn [3d\]: t18 
alexanderp [?\]:  well, roln will play with breakfast, and Kang is interesting partner/rival
WVoron [4d\]: &
WVoron [4d\]: /
]
;B[re]C[Syptryn [3d\]: hmmm
Syptryn [3d\]: white does black not T-18?
Syptryn [3d\]: saving aji?
grumpyjoe [-\]: so he is trying to infect alex
mobese [4d\]: t9
Alternate [?\]: 2-3 for b
WVoron [4d\]: a11b big
ogre [2d?\]: i was wondering if b t9 wasnt better than s9
nocturne19 [2k\]: ritual
mikan [2d\]: bfast undefeated still?
WVoron [4d\]: t18
Coray [8k\]: b has alot of aji in whites territory
Julian1 [2d\]: a11 gote 4 black
ogre [2d?\]: cause of w t9 now
just9x9 [-\]: bfast lost to cornel first round
fatihsulak [-\]: black leading like 5 points
mikan [2d\]: thx, 99
WVoron [4d\]: a11 sente
sgjiehui [3d?\]: t 11 then t9
NotAfraid [3d\]: dosnt metter
just9x9 [-\]: yw
Coray [8k\]: why not a10?
Syptryn [3d\]: t9>t11, saves ko threat
N4KED [1d\]: white needs something like m5
Neocon [?\]: ...
Julian1 [2d\]: a11, a12, a10, tenuki, then?
NotAfraid [3d\]: a11 is not a sente
NschoTschi [-\]: h6 ?
tanoshi [2d\]: M5 and die bigger?
WVoron [4d\]: s9 was bad
]
;W[mr]C[Dagobert [4d\]: m5? b can play tenuki ..
Coray [8k\]: t11 is sente..
Syptryn [3d\]: eh
just9x9 [-\]: lol
Limelight [1d\]: o1
Syptryn [3d\]: white gonna live?
NotAfraid [3d\]: he should do t9 not s 
goth [?\]: what does she want there?
WVoron [4d\]: t9 better
kukulis4 [2d\]: s3
nanotech [2k\]: w win
ogre [2d?\]: yes thats what i was saying
ogre [2d?\]: oh well
taiji [2d\]: trye
ogre [2d?\]: so much for b yose
just9x9 [-\]: i dont see how b can tenuki but i neither see how w can live there
ogre [2d?\]: being refined
]
;B[rq]C[Higanbana [?\]: w wasting ko threats that she won't need anyway
taiji [2d\]: trys to make h6 more sente?
Sonatine [7k\]: W is alive here?
Dino9 [6d\]: j6
headache [2d\]: w realized he lost if not  L3 aji reduces center
ogre [2d?\]: this is just to prepare what reduction
Neocon [?\]: you get nowhere if u question every little move
nanotech [2k\]: w can even j6
N4KED [1d\]: white can live
NotAfraid [3d\]: ?!
Weishenme [4d\]: how ?
mikan [2d\]: sequence?
alanis [1k\]: how?
]
;W[in]C[NotAfraid [3d\]: i dont think
]
;B[jn]C[kryft [1k\]: Neocon, No, that's how you get strong. ;)
Coray [8k\]: definately not now
Alternate [?\]: dont see how
nanotech [2k\]: j6 as i said
mFz [3k\]: gg nano
Larrave [1d\]: whos ahead
GoatCheese [1k\]: wow you are a pro nano
blitz99: k4 connected already?
kgs1d [1k\]: very close, may be W wins
just9x9 [-\]: well, dino said it first
alexanderp [?\]: B+2.5 seems accurate
Neverhood [3k\]: what about white o1 ?
GoatCheese [1k\]: quick predict some more 
]
;W[jm]C[Higanbana [?\]: w doesn't even have a ko threat to live anymore does she?
Coray [8k\]: :OO
kgs1d [1k\]: looks like w will win
goth [?\]: overplay
]
;B[kn]C[Coray [8k\]: why not j5?
Optician [1k\]: n1 is threat to live
Trivia [2k?\]: its going to be close
alexanderp [?\]: now b behind
nocturne19 [2k\]: rich man won't fight
goth [?\]: w's pushing
Coray [8k\]: richman wont fight?
alexanderp [?\]: rich man won't fight - one of the favorite sayings by breakfast
ogre [2d?\]: i dont think b could have hoped to crosscut there
Higanbana [?\]: w's not actually going to try to attack j2 is she?
Syptryn [3d\]: I cound b 95
kukulis4 [2d\]: this is a close game
Syptryn [3d\]: w 90
yamashitaK [5d\]: w+5,5
Syptryn [3d\]: looks like white slightly ahead,,,
epoxygal [3k\]: white dangerous
headache [2d\]: w was hoping for cross cut
serge417 [1d\]: who's black and who's white?
Coray [8k\]: ..
Trivia [2k?\]: W got about 90
kenjiro43 [6k\]: good go players
nasnad [2d\]: f5 weakness is still there
sgjiehui [3d?\]:  ..............
mikan [2d\]: b breakfast
nasnad [2d\]: b wins
Weishenme [4d\]: b has all the big yoses in sente
Syptryn [3d\]: B~95
Coray [8k\]: white is Kyoung-nang Kanglol
Kanin [-\]: but rich men fight all the time
Syptryn [3d\]: W~90
sgjiehui [3d?\]: b lose
Neverhood [3k\]: girl is white. baldie is black
sgjiehui [3d?\]: white wins
kukulis4 [2d\]: a11 big
Coray [8k\]: xD
StefanRadu [1k\]: b will win.
Coray [8k\]: why not a10??
ogre [2d?\]: w has s9 tho
ogre [2d?\]: thats a big yose
Alternate [?\]: b wins for he gets t18 and a11 if w connects
kryft [1k\]: Coray, It's gote
Coray [8k\]: hm
Coray [8k\]: okay
headache [2d\]: b f8 can cause trouble for w
Coray [8k\]: cant b just ignore?
Neverhood [3k\]: wow do you see those wavy motion of the observers
]
;W[hm]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: and H19
Coray [8k\]: it'd be the same wouldnt it?
Neocon [?\]: b will win by 3.5 you heard it here first
headache [2d\]: w saw the trouble
banbanban [2k\]: i don't get the a11 move
Syptryn [3d\]: hwo do I get vip points to bet anyway?
kukulis4 [2d\]: black g5 first
NorthWind [5k\]: 2 man mexican wave
kryft [1k\]: Coray, Ah, you meant why a11 instead of a10
Coray [8k\]: yes
Sonatine [7k\]: g5 ?
fatihsulak [-\]: h5 big 
cvxcv: b h19:p
Mekanik [5d\]: b is leading a bit but its very close
alexanderp [?\]: banban, a11 for b is huge, w a10 too
Syptryn [3d\]: h19 
Mipaline [6k?\]: b d8?
Coray [8k\]: or do u mean a11 for b?
Q161 [?\]: haha
]
;B[km]C[Q161 [?\]: kang adjusted one of the stones and alex readjusted it as soon as she stopped
alexanderp [?\]: he is so careful
kukulis4 [2d\]: indeed
Weishenme [4d\]: t18 now
FangFa [2d\]: t9 
Syptryn [3d\]: h19 
Coray [8k\]: t11 :O
Iciac [5k\]: Link?
yuki3 [7k\]: t18 bigger than a10?
eatramen [21k\]: h5
Julian1 [2d\]: t18 much bigger than a10
NorthWind [5k\]: omg SE says 0.5
Coray [8k\]: lol
ogre [2d?\]: armpit suji
headache [2d\]: l7 = "I won" move?
Alternate [?\]: what about g6?
taiji [2d\]: roln is looming
eatramen [21k\]: SE?
Optician [1k\]: l7 needed
kukulis4 [2d\]: L7 scary calm move
mobese [4d\]: a10
epoxygal [3k\]: A10 is small now. Even F2 is bigger. T18 definitely
Sonatine [7k\]: B seems to say, gme is over
Moin9 [3k\]: his opponent is good at handle fighting opportunities...at the beginning it seems she had little groups for the game but then here groups are settled and she attacks the weaknesses of the opponents (when they are fighting, but this game was played in a other way...)
nocturne19 [2k\]: Se says W+0,5
headache [2d\]: breakfast must think he wins
Yggdrasil [6k\]: w win
stf7 [1k\]: w can now play a10 and g2
GoatCheese [1k\]: h19 is probably better than f2
Blitzcore [3d\]: w can play only one of them
ogre [2d?\]: im not sure l7 is as small as it looks
kukulis4 [2d\]: btw h19 worth 6 pts in sente
grumpyjoe [-\]: i don't think a10 is sente
GoatCheese [1k\]: its not, but it has nice aji with b a16 later
Eshelnah [9k\]: F9 ?
Alternate [?\]: many points though
just9x9 [-\]: idk but i would k18 as b, and after h19 i would q18, p17 and n17. for sure its a bad plan.
cvxcv: j5 or t18 :P
WVoron [4d\]: +-0.5
Mekanik [5d\]: black by half point
nocturne19 [2k\]: T18
Neocon [?\]: its all calculation now
Coray [8k\]: W+resign?
jenesis [4d?\]: it is really close
Syptryn [3d\]: errrr
Optician [1k\]: w j5
]
;W[aj]C[Eshelnah [9k\]: G5 ?
Syptryn [3d\]: l7 really that big?
headache [2d\]: just9x9: very bad plan...
Neverhood [3k\]: there is some aji behind e9 , i think.
alexanderp [?\]: imagine to lose to two Russian guys one after another. that's not fair!
adiida [3k\]: black g5 f5 g6 g7 f6 e7 whipes out white points there no?
Alternate [?\]: again is b g6 a threat?
WVoron [4d\]: t18
misha91 [2d\]: close game
]
;B[ha]
;W[ib]C[ogre [2d?\]: a10 looking at b6 aji
alexanderp [?\]: ha
alexanderp [?\]: nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition
]
;B[sb]
;W[qb]
;B[ia]
;W[ja]
;B[ga]
;W[jb]C[falloutti [1d?\]: expects..
Dupaaxe [?\]: ?
Coray [8k\]: fail
Syptryn [3d\]: f2 ?
NorthWind [5k\]: g2
mikan [2d\]: Anyone have a count?
NotAfraid [3d\]: F2
yakotaki [-\]: failstein
erikk [-\]: j5
NotAfraid [3d\]: lolstein
Syptryn [3d\]: white win I think
SunTsu [-\]: no
Trivia [2k?\]: i count even on the board
ogre [2d?\]: t10 
Zahlman [1k\]: it's fairly close
ogre [2d?\]: for b
eatramen [21k\]: its really close
NotAfraid [3d\]: A17 also good
ogre [2d?\]: i guess he shoulda played t9 to begin with
SunTsu [-\]: yose still good for b
ogre [2d?\]: so no
Fredegas [4d\]: d8 first
headache [2d\]: It is a close game...for black
Optician [1k\]: w still has t9
Coray [8k\]: b8 sente?
SunTsu [-\]: t9?
yakotaki [-\]: ..
mikan [2d\]: Yeah I am leaning towards black
headache [2d\]: I bet G2
Am [5d\]: wery close game
Syptryn [3d\]: W+5 
kukulis4 [2d\]: I think black will make next move around g5
adiida [3k\]: me too
apadox [8k\]: g6 
nocturne19 [2k\]: G6
adiida [3k\]: g5
Am [5d\]: less then 5
Weishenme [4d\]: infortunatly I think B wins now
veiron [10k\]: g5
A1R [4k\]: live feed
mikan [2d\]: Nothing unfortunate about it
]
;B[cn]C[Coray [8k\]: can someone give me the link plz?
yakotaki [-\]: www.google.com
Higanbana [?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
Coray [8k\]: thnx
Higanbana [?\]: np
Zahlman [1k\]: how much time left on the clocks?
Excalibor [-\]: d8?
taiji [2d\]: its so close I think
DeathWind [1k\]: white fought back so well.
NorthWind [5k\]: score : bd2 560    bd1 420
adiida [3k\]: j5 looks ok for white?
fujichan [-\]: I think Black will win
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: dinerstein has 30 min left
NotAfraid [3d\]: G2 for b , f2 for w and then g5
Namastee [2d\]: i bet on w
ogre [2d?\]: this game went fast
Neverhood [3k\]: c6 seems to be scare tactics
eatramen [21k\]: and kang eurogo?
nasnad [2d\]: no
]
;W[fk]C[Alternate [?\]: w seems ahead a little now
ogre [2d?\]: c6 is big cause lets b get b8 
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i dunno i can't see and i can't leave my place
jenesis [4d?\]: where can we check congress results?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i'll ask someone to check
eatramen [21k\]: did kang show up late today, lol?
Trivia [2k?\]: A10 was big
fatihsulak [-\]: or we will see its meaning
]
;B[fr]
;W[gr]
;B[es]
;W[sk]C[Syptryn [3d\]: g5 
]
;B[sl]
;W[sj]C[Higanbana [?\]: if I was the only asian girl at a go competition I'd show up late too
dmf [14k\]: status of n3?
Dino9 [6d\]: its gonna be w+ 4,5
]
;B[rl]C[sgjiehui [3d?\]: g4
yamashitaK [5d\]: g5
sgjiehui [3d?\]: g5
zhou901108 [1d\]: u already played out?
taiji [2d\]: hoping for kang win
zife [6k\]: dmf, dead
sgjiehui [3d?\]: Kang will win
dmf [14k\]: thanks zife
NotAfraid [3d\]: komi 6.5
eatramen [21k\]: did she show up late today?
]
;W[gq]C[gfggg: kang has the game in her hands
yamashitaK [5d\]: b17 getting big
glc [6k\]: is b g5 playble now?
fatihsulak [-\]: h5 b17 
ogre [2d?\]: no b cant g5
Syptryn [3d\]: h5 
]
;B[io]C[Syptryn [3d\]: eh
NotAfraid [3d\]: h5 not good
taiji [2d\]: sente?
NotAfraid [3d\]: w can cut
]
;W[ho]C[Syptryn [3d\]: giving white free pts.
erikk [-\]: if h5 then j5
]
;B[hp]C[NotAfraid [3d\]: ye
Blitzcore [3d\]: i think h5 was meant as answer to b g5
ogre [2d?\]: w would have played g5 and then pushing through
martin3141 [1d\]: I'd like to see w winning
WVoron [4d\]: b17 soon
yamashitaK [5d\]: yeah w will win 
]
;W[go]C[yamashitaK [5d\]: by komi 
avio [2d\]: is w around 8 points ahead?
taiji [2d\]: less
WVoron [4d\]: no
Alternate [?\]: 2-3 for w now
mobese [4d\]: w+2.5
Blitzcore [3d\]: g8 
Karnesun [5d\]: Harry, how about Artem?
]
;B[qd]C[fujichan [-\]: G8 big sente
ogre [2d?\]: did s9 instead of t9 lose game for b?
]
;W[pc]C[WVoron [4d\]: b17
blitz99: b8
fatihsulak [-\]: i think half point game
nasnad [2d\]: eventually w needs another move around n13, so she loses
taiji [2d\]: b8?
kukulis4 [2d\]: which is bigger b17 or b8 ?
sgjiehui [3d?\]: komi 6.5 b will lose
jenesis [4d?\]: I found the congress results so far
deeb [9k\]: w+2.5
ogre [2d?\]: b8 b17 ?
NotAfraid [3d\]: naybe B8 first
NotAfraid [3d\]: then A17
Karnesun [5d\]: a17 bigger
headache [2d\]: L7 loosing move?
ogre [2d?\]: nah
Syptryn [3d\]: b8 
Zahlman [1k\]: why a17 rather than b17?
Optician [1k\]: I think w+1.5
ogre [2d?\]: b8 w a9
yoon [9k\]: T13 will save black topright
kukulis4 [2d\]: black b8, w b17
ogre [2d?\]: nah
fujichan [-\]: G8 !
kukulis4 [2d\]: and vice versa
ogre [2d?\]: no way
Katsuri [3k\]: very close
WVoron [4d\]: b8 w b17
]
;B[bc]C[ogre [2d?\]: no kukulis 
taiji [2d\]: I wonder what their counts are
ogre [2d?\]: w a8
WVoron [4d\]: yes!
ogre [2d?\]: w should a8
ogre [2d?\]: now
taiji [2d\]: both looks very counting
WVoron [4d\]: a8 bad
ogre [2d?\]: why
eatramen [21k\]: because b6?
ogre [2d?\]: makes b play b6 later
hilarious [1d\]: G8
Eshelnah [9k\]: A7 ?
lotus974 [3k\]: a8 gote , no ?
cvxcv: d8
kukulis4 [2d\]: g8
Pische [-\]: w8
stf7 [1k\]: h1
nocturne19 [2k\]: D6
grumpyjoe [-\]: h1
headache [2d\]: W +4.5
XRF [1d\]: g8
blitz99: harry any news of the other top boards?
stf7 [1k\]: white h1 is very cool
SunTsu [-\]: g17 
WVoron [4d\]: g8 good
sgjiehui [3d?\]: w+1.5
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: still playing
Karnesun [5d\]: ok
veiron [10k\]: if b create group in H15 - P14. May be a win
cvxcv: d8 good?
Syptryn [3d\]: white won thid
lotus974 [3k\]: h1?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: artem won against cornel
grumpyjoe [-\]: the other one won't end for awhile because roln is always over here
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ali lost to junghyeop
WVoron [4d\]: )
taiji [2d\]: gooo Artem ^O^
crizz [2k\]: :(
Karnesun [5d\]: Yes!
Karnesun [5d\]: Artem!
ogre [2d?\]: a8 2 point gote
fatihsulak [-\]: g8 bigger
apadox [8k\]: who is artem?
ogre [2d?\]: g8 reverse sente
NorthWind [5k\]: excellent. Artem back on TV next round
stf7 [1k\]: first she must h1,so black cant g1 ?
vdsvsd: g8 gote
]
;W[bl]C[ogre [2d?\]: ?
fujichan [-\]: not gote
fatihsulak [-\]: a9 
Alternate [?\]: b looses by 0,5
fujichan [-\]: With G8, black can save E9
Lovro06 [3k\]: seems like B will lose
]
;B[ak]
;W[al]C[taiji [2d\]: hoping for artem vs kang next game
]
;B[bm]
;W[ai]
;B[am]
;W[ak]C[stf7 [1k\]: lol?
NorthWind [5k\]: already played
yoon [9k\]: lol
ogre [2d?\]: wow this was better 
sameasyou [2d\]: artem already lost to kang
Alternate [?\]: d6
hatego [3k\]: Why a9?
WVoron [4d\]: g8
ogre [2d?\]: 3 points
chaklun [-\]: g8 
NotAfraid [3d\]: G8
vdsvsd: yeah wow what a combnation right, lol
glc [6k\]: b d6?
fatihsulak [-\]: to prevent white a9 
vdsvsd: unexpected :)
Trivia [2k?\]: hoping for artem vs ilya
hatego [3k\]: Ahh, I see.
Shedal [2d\]: Harry, how is Artem's the game with Cornel going?
XRF [1d\]: g8
vdsvsd: artem vs ilya eastern powa :D
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Artem won
Lovro06 [3k\]: Artem won
Shedal [2d\]: cool!
glc [6k\]: is not b d6 sente?
ogre [2d?\]: is artem vs ilia next pairing?
]
;B[dn]
;W[en]C[NotAfraid [3d\]: where is artum
Zahlman [1k\]: apparently yes, glc :)
Am [5d\]: what about surin?
Trivia [2k?\]: could be
blitz99: d8
glc [6k\]: wow - I played like a 3p
yamashitaK [5d\]: did Viktor Lin win ?
]
;B[dl]
;W[el]
;B[gl]C[StefanRadu [1k\]: kang better.
]
;W[gm]C[QuiGonJinn [3k\]: is the n2-group death
fatihsulak [-\]: d7 ko will decide the winner
QuiGonJinn [3k\]: ?
NotAfraid [3d\]: K8
]
;B[jl]C[adiida [3k\]: she should have g8 ...
ogre [2d?\]: yes n2 is dead
]
;W[im]C[taiji [2d\]: I think roln is in love with her
sgjiehui [3d?\]: g1 to join back my help b win
sgjiehui [3d?\]: but ko
Syptryn [3d\]: a16 
grumpyjoe [-\]: no kidding
Pische [-\]: who i roln?
Pische [-\]: who is
NotAfraid [3d\]: G4
ogre [2d?\]: roln might have to control his moving around to win the girl
grumpyjoe [-\]: i wish kang would just shoot him down
Shedal [2d\]: W+2.5?
mobese [4d\]: black can play g1 
glc [6k\]: is there any bad trick with b f8?
]
;B[em]C[copyright [2d\]: g1  and ko
grumpyjoe [-\]: so he would go finish his game
XRF [1d\]: g1
]
;W[hs]C[NotAfraid [3d\]: kyuong nang kang is a girl?
avio [2d\]: tomorrow Ilya- Artem and Kang- Kim
]
;B[is]
;W[dm]C[blitz99: no an alien
yamashitaK [5d\]: yes notafraid
weak5k [3k\]: who ahead?
yamashitaK [5d\]: w
Shedal [2d\]: seems W
Zahlman [1k\]: very close
WVoron [4d\]: w+2.5
glc [6k\]: b d12?
Zahlman [1k\]: but yes I think w
]
;B[od]C[yamashitaK [5d\]: by 3,5
ogre [2d?\]: but yea she would be a good marriage prospect for roln
fatihsulak [-\]: why d8 instead of g8 
ckg [-\]: please keep chat on the game
]
;W[oc]C[ogre [2d?\]: building up for the future of european go
]
;B[em]C[taiji [2d\]: lol
weak5k [3k\]: if b win this ko game b+05?
yoon [9k\]: i dont get why b's playing that ko
]
;W[bn]C[gfggg: people chat on the .kang and llza plaz go
laketrout: t11
sgjiehui [3d?\]: if black win ko and cut he can kill
ogre [2d?\]: this is for sente
gfggg: on the game
glc [6k\]: b f8
Syptryn [3d\]: fight ko!
yoon [9k\]: he can't cut
]
;B[an]
;W[dm]C[Shedal [2d\]: yoon, he can
yoon [9k\]: he needs to seal ko to cut
zhou901108 [1d\]: se !
sgjiehui [3d?\]: yeah yoon he can
]
;B[gh]
;W[hi]
;B[em]C[taiji [2d\]: ???
sgjiehui [3d?\]: he dosent
Syptryn [3d\]: lol
dter01: lol
]
;W[ao]C[chuno [1d\]: lol
weak5k [3k\]: =)
taiji [2d\]: phew
Zahlman [1k\]: getting too excited harry?
Karnesun [5d\]: stop
glc [6k\]: b f8
warweak2 [8k?\]: these are cool ko threats
glc [6k\]: I think w a5 is wrong
Zahlman [1k\]: no
ogre [2d?\]: why is w a5 wrong?
Alternate [?\]: strange
Pische [-\]: you are wrong
Shedal [2d\]: glc, it's a ko threat
Zahlman [1k\]: f8 d7 is atari
Mipaline [6k?\]: f8
Syptryn [3d\]: what if black cuts?
Zahlman [1k\]: b will not be happy
sameasyou [2d\]: w a5 is a good threat
Syptryn [3d\]: he has lots of threats...
glc [6k\]: because if w d 7 b a4
StrayCat [9d?\]: your mama is wrong
]
;B[ap]C[Zahlman [1k\]: it becomes quite heavy
]
;W[dm]C[muliny [1d\]: no threat big enough
]
;B[ne]
;W[od]
;B[em]C[XRF [1d\]: t11
warweak2 [8k?\]: shouldnt white just connect
sameasyou [2d\]: connect
Pische [-\]: this is an half point ko for white, isn't it?
Higanbana [?\]: i can't believe white actually made points at g6
sameasyou [2d\]: f8
MilanChe [-\]: lot of cats around
knb [4k\]: L2
]
;W[fl]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: t11 + t15
weak5k [3k\]: will be ko for game
weak5k [3k\]: in end
mobese [4d\]: w+1.5
weak5k [3k\]: looks Kang know that
Alternate [?\]: w will win
Zahlman [1k\]: g4, a16, g17, r10, s19 and the ko
kukulis4 [2d\]: a16
Syptryn [3d\]: r10 ?
veiron [10k\]: w win many points
blitz99: r10
sgjiehui [3d?\]: a16
sameasyou [2d\]: I was convinced Diner will win this after middlegame
Neocon [?\]: w+1.5
fatihsulak [-\]: g17 
hilarious [1d\]: S19
sameasyou [2d\]: she's strong and lucky
gfggg: whz luckz_
Zahlman [1k\]: what "luck" are you thinking of?
ogre [2d?\]: b was feeling too good
weak5k [3k\]: strong becouse lucky?
gfggg: lucky?
]
;B[ad]
;W[gc]
;B[fb]C[alexanderp [?\]: remember, her comebacks....
mFz [3k\]: why lucky ?
kukulis4 [2d\]: white going to win
veiron [10k\]: Kang is a women?
warweak2 [8k?\]: im weak because im unlucky
ogre [2d?\]: the luck was b choose to play s9
kukulis4 [2d\]: R10
]
;W[qj]
;B[pk]C[blitz99: r10
weak5k [3k\]: w far ahead
sameasyou [2d\]: yes...this is the third or fourth time she came back in the game
deeb [9k\]: ofcourse she's women
heywardbey [2d\]: r10 dosent so anything
heywardbey [2d\]: do*
Zahlman [1k\]: g4
heywardbey [2d\]: lol.
weak5k [3k\]: g1
blitz99: why a16 before r10?
heywardbey [2d\]: a16 is worth more..
Zahlman [1k\]: g1 is nothing
Optician [1k\]: g4
veiron [10k\]: woman wins diner... very interesting...
StefanRadu [1k\]: g4 s19
eatramen [21k\]: game is still close but alex plays too safe while kang is a bit more aggressive
Zahlman [1k\]: agree with stefan
Blitzcore [3d\]: they played for a diner?
falientje [10k\]: :)
ogre [2d?\]: b is called diner
A1R [4k\]: s19?
Shedal [2d\]: Dinerchtein's getting beaten by a girl! (chuckle)
sameasyou [2d\]: s19
Syptryn [3d\]: g4 bigger
sameasyou [2d\]: g4?
sameasyou [2d\]: yes
weak5k [3k\]: no need s19
Aliot [3k\]: G4
DrZoom [4k\]: white won, but very close.
weak5k [3k\]: g4 s19 r19 t17 d7 t19 e7 
lotus974 [3k\]: g4
ogre [2d?\]: b should open a restaurant
weak5k [3k\]: or
Shedal [2d\]: why?
Kajiura [10k\]: group of w down is dead ?
Neocon [?\]: b staked the game on having bigger moyo..no go
Trivia [2k?\]: "Diner's diner"
hylie [4d\]: Is Kang an ex-insei or something?
vdsvsd: ye, b better flipping burgers
sgjiehui [3d?\]: sad black lost 1.5
Shedal [2d\]: N13 doesn't work for B
blitz99: s19
ogre [2d?\]: s9 losing move?
hylie [4d\]: She's a very good player.
weak5k [3k\]: stream pls
ogre [2d?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
sameasyou [2d\]: w has enough threats for f1?
weak5k [3k\]: thx
nocturne19 [2k\]: B+0.5
kukulis4 [2d\]: ogre: yes, your move t9  was very good
Shedal [2d\]: W doesn't need F1
veiron [10k\]: why black not play in center L15 or nears
ogre [2d?\]: i had it in my clipboard :p
Alternate [?\]: w +1,5
grumpyjoe [-\]: w doesn't need f1 it seems
misha91 [2d\]: w+1,5
kukulis4 [2d\]: :)
JanHao [2d\]: w +1.5?
Shedal [2d\]: W+1.5?
Zahlman [1k\]: veiron, that is totally impossible
martin3141 [1d\]: w + 0,5
A1R [4k\]: time?
Dino9 [6d\]: w+2,5
weak5k [3k\]: Diner already count
Hutoshi4 [8d\]: 2.5
sgjiehui [3d?\]: w+1.5
nocturne19 [2k\]: B+
DrZoom [4k\]: s19
Zahlman [1k\]: you are supposed to have spent the time from 20k-10k figuring out that kind of thing...
Optician [1k\]: 13:10:15
]
;W[gp]C[sgjiehui [3d?\]: black lose
sgjiehui [3d?\]: s 19
XRF [1d\]: s19
alexanderp [?\]: Well, at least from all this men she will remember....Ilya.
nocturne19 [2k\]: S10
ogre [2d?\]: s19 makes d7 ko tsugitsugi
taiji [2d\]: was a veryy interesting game, pity for breakfast
snixen [13k\]: t13 ?
veiron [10k\]: groups M3-S2 alive? or not?
eatramen [21k\]: yes ilia was amazing
eatramen [21k\]: *is
eatramen [21k\]: haha
Zahlman [1k\]: no
]
;B[sg]C[sgjiehui [3d?\]: w+2.5
adiida [3k\]: s19 no points ... there will be 2 ko's right? d7 and t19 ... each will get 1
]
;W[si]C[grumpyjoe [-\]: is kang the only woman in the top group?
ogre [2d?\]: no s19 is a point
Zahlman [1k\]: s19 does make a point difference
ogre [2d?\]: because of the other ko
stf7 [1k\]: is N13 a threat?
weak5k [3k\]: Diner resigned?
vdsvsd: ye
aguilar1 [6d\]: W+0.5
sgjiehui [3d?\]: Kang won
]
;B[ra]C[alexanderp [?\]: okay, we get it
Dino9 [6d\]: W+2,5
]
;W[qa]C[Dino9 [6d\]: s10 isn't  sente
fatihsulak [-\]: w+1,5 :)
Shedal [2d\]: W+
kukulis4 [2d\]: D7
veiron [10k\]: go diner O16
sgjiehui [3d?\]: w+2.5
XRF [1d\]: t13d7
apadox [8k\]: nothing black can do ?
A1R [4k\]: thomas won
feyodora [15k\]: WOW
apadox [8k\]: pitty
Q161 [?\]: Alex l15 before its too late!!!!!
ikeike [4d\]: 0.5
N4KED [1d\]: s10 is sente
]
;B[dm]C[Zahlman [1k\]: ?
]
;W[sa]C[ogre [2d?\]: oh
veiron [10k\]: go diner N16
N4KED [1d\]: black win
kukulis4 [2d\]: black cannot lose t17
yosogo [1d\]: big ko
Dino9 [6d\]: s10 is not sente
Zahlman [1k\]: why are we backing up?
]
(;B[fn]C[ogre [2d?\]: this way is better for b
N4KED [1d\]: ko for game
Hutoshi4 [8d\]: n13,n14n15,n12
hilarious [1d\]: huh
vdsvsd: lol?
ogre [2d?\]: nice 
stf7 [1k\]: lol
stf7 [1k\]: haha
hilarious [1d\]: w just ignore :)
GoIsBoring [2d\]: t17 
muliny [1d\]: too small
stf7 [1k\]: eat
stf7 [1k\]: xD
WVoron [4d\]: lol
]
;W[sc]
;B[sd]C[martin3141 [1d\]: ?!
stf7 [1k\]: aaa
hiyou [5k?\]: t17
sgjiehui [3d?\]: wat ko is that
nocturne19 [2k\]: :D
stf7 [1k\]: fail :(
N4KED [1d\]: funny
sgjiehui [3d?\]: !!
kukulis4 [2d\]: weird
Shedal [2d\]: :-D
glc [6k\]: b has a14 and d12 as threats
alexanderp [?\]: зевнул
hilarious [1d\]: haha
warweak2 [8k?\]: its sente
warweak2 [8k?\]: epic
WVoron [4d\]: haha
nocturne19 [2k\]: S10 better
N4KED [1d\]: 3 dan pro move
RSX1000 [11k\]: O_O
ogre [2d?\]: i guess it was worth a try
Draxt [3k\]: eurogo forgot moves
Zahlman [1k\]: XD
Dagobert [4d\]: now everyone, let´s count again ;-)
WVoron [4d\]: mda
]
;W[fo]
;B[sb]
;W[ra]
;B[sc]C[Shedal [2d\]: doesn't make difference probably?
muliny [1d\]: b lost a point here
yoon [9k\]: lol @ dagobert
]
;W[hr]C[stf7 [1k\]: is n13 blacks secret move?
N4KED [1d\]: okay white wins
Q161 [?\]: noooooooo
dter01: w+3.5
stf7 [1k\]: xD
RSX1000 [11k\]: FUE UN ERROR
]
;B[fs]C[RSX1000 [11k\]: ?
dter01: :))
yosogo [1d\]: f6 should be a14
danigabi [5d\]: w win by 3
Q161 [?\]: NEIN
NschoTschi [-\]: 3.5
Zahlman [1k\]: so 3.5 now
martin3141 [1d\]: even better for w now
Shedal [2d\]: Yeah, that was +1 point for W
]
;W[hl]C[ogre [2d?\]: no difference. a loss was a loss
]
;B[hq]C[NorthWind [5k\]: ended
]
;W[gs]
;B[il]C[veiron [10k\]: how you count results?
martin3141 [1d\]: e15 was a better threat for b
yosogo [1d\]: so the game is ending or b still play
]
;W[rj]C[stf7 [1k\]: ?
fatihsulak [-\]: :)
stf7 [1k\]: :O
wasd [6d\]: n13 
stf7 [1k\]: n13?
fatihsulak [-\]: a ponnuki is dead :)
Shedal [2d\]: n13 doesn't work
XRF [1d\]: n13?
NschoTschi [-\]: n13 n14 
taiji [2d\]: b unhappy- has such a good position in midgame
Neocon [?\]: 10k...by hand
deeb [9k\]: end
wasd [6d\]: n13 
Neverhood [3k\]: n13 ,
stf7 [1k\]: ohh yea
Zahlman [1k\]: n13 n14
kukulis4 [2d\]: yo
yoon [9k\]: n13 doesn't work
stf7 [1k\]: doesnt work
Sven84 [3k\]: n14
NschoTschi [-\]: wasd n13 n14 
ogre [2d?\]: b was too happy and made little error
vdsvsd: is w realyl a girl?
eatramen [21k\]: ilia-kang will meet again
Neverhood [3k\]: n13 n14 o12 
knupsi [4d\]: ??? a 6d wants n13
N4KED [1d\]: n13 
yoon [9k\]: n13 n12 m14
wasd [6d\]: n13 n14 n15 ?
kukulis4 [2d\]: they already counting
ogre [2d?\]: great game
NschoTschi [-\]: n12 
Karnesun [5d\]: n13 
Zahlman [1k\]: then n15 captures, neverhood
eatramen [21k\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/EuroGoTV2
Katsuri [3k\]: result?
Shedal [2d\]: N12
Larrave [1d\]: gonna be hard for alex now
eatramen [21k\]: yes a girl
StevenStar [2k\]: ...
knupsi [4d\]: n13 doesnt work
Larrave [1d\]: with 2 minus
fatihsulak [-\]: game over
Neverhood [3k\]: right sorry
Karnesun [5d\]: result?
Katsuri [3k\]: euro? result?
Zahlman [1k\]: and if n15, n12 gets out
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: W + 3.5
NschoTschi [-\]: n13 n14 n15 n12 
eatramen [21k\]: dang
Karnesun [5d\]: n13 ?
Katsuri [3k\]: ty
NschoTschi [-\]: thx EuroGO
Karnesun [5d\]: oh
Zahlman [1k\]: ... omg
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: your welcoem
Karnesun [5d\]: then
Excalibor [-\]: Thanks for the bradcasting, Harry :)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: welcome
deeb [9k\]: great game
Alternate [?\]: tahnk you
Karnesun [5d\]: n14 
donzet [?\]: thx
Zahlman [1k\]: how many times do people have to suggest the same thing
erikk [-\]: bedankt Harry
eatramen [21k\]: yeeey kang, poor alex tho
NschoTschi [-\]: KHAAANG
yoon [9k\]: thanks
Excalibor [-\]: ah, not harry, sorry :)
Zahlman [1k\]: right after being told how it doesn't work
XRF [1d\]: m12
taiji [2d\]: is she doing autographs?
Excalibor [-\]: let 'em know we enjoyed the match a great deal!
Larrave [1d\]: kang close to be half naked there
Larrave [1d\]: ^^
Zahlman [1k\]: m12 n13, easy
XRF [1d\]: m12, h13
georgeee [3k\]: how can somebody respound to n13?????
veiron [10k\]: go dinerN13
ogre [2d?\]: they write the result of game on the paper
Dino9 [6d\]: n13 n14
Am [5d\]: surin is staying near diner, ask him pls how did he played?  
yoon [9k\]: n12
Zahlman [1k\]: georgeee, by first paying attention to what several people just finished saying
ogre [2d?\]: both agree on result 
Effem [3k\]: N13 looks good
gfggg: kong ate today 3 times in one breakfest,go fast food and diner 
eatramen [21k\]: now ilia's turn to win
Zahlman [1k\]: omg
suiram [4k\]: b is a true gentleman
eatramen [21k\]: yes
eatramen [21k\]: he is
knupsi [4d\]: result???
suiram [4k\]: ladies first
radishimo [4k\]: what did he do that made him a gentleman
radishimo [4k\]: haha
Dagobert [4d\]: w+ sth
gfggg: w +3,5
eatramen [21k\]: W+3.5
Zahlman [1k\]: w+3.5 it seems
taiji [2d\]: w+3.5
zc3k [1k\]: who win?
Optician [1k\]: w by 1.5
avio [2d\]: ali, did you won?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w by 3.5
chuno [1d\]: heidi can we see how u look like
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: and no, i lost to junghyeop kim
A1R [4k\]: could you switch the cam to board 1? pls:)
A1R [4k\]: turn*
kenjiro43 [6k\]: w won this?
gfdhff [4k\]: stupid people cant count n13 ;/
Stefany93 [15k\]: who won?
])
(;B[dh]C[Zahlman [1k\]: are they reviewing?
]
;W[di]C[goatsunday [8k\]: to correct a mistake
]
;B[ra]
;W[gs]
;B[fs]
;W[sa]C[veiron [10k\]: who win?
yosogo [1d\]: e14
]
;B[ee]
;W[ef]C[goatsunday [8k\]: transcription mistake
]
;B[ra]
;W[kr]
;B[ls]
;W[sa]
;B[af]
;W[dg]
;B[ra]
;W[hr]
;B[sc]
;W[rj]C[blitz99: in any case w wins so it does notmatter
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: that was dinerstyn checking some mistake he made
Zahlman [1k\]: aha
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: he said he lost to points there but he was still behind anyway
yosogo [1d\]: but in this b still lose
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: two*
Zahlman [1k\]: correct
Zahlman [1k\]: thanks for transcribing harry :)
Zahlman [1k\]: ... wait, harry is eurogotv1? or you o_O
N4KED [1d\]: eurogotv.com seems to be down from some countries
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: we change scribes all the time
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: harry is on board one now
NorthWind [5k\]: yeah, this is Heidi :)
Zahlman [1k\]: aha
yoon [9k\]: thanks Eurgo
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no, this is ali, but the one who scribed game was liselot
Zahlman [1k\]: well, thanks to all of you :)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: np =)
NorthWind [5k\]: oh :D yes, thanks all
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Zahlman [1k\]: that's quite a mistake :P
blitz99: 1,5 enough
Zahlman [1k\]: I guess harry is just checking the score without the error in the top right? :/
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