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GN[European Go Congress 2010 board 1 round 8]PW[Ali Jabarin]PB[Kyoung-nang Kang]WR[6d]BR[7d]DT[2010-08-05]RO[8]PC[Tampere, Finland]US[HW9x9]C[Shedal [2d\]: There's still no pairing for round 8 on the website...
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: indeed, also waiting
fatihsulak [-\]: good morning
Shedal [2d\]: Morning... Il like how the morning light falls down to the goban and bowls on the video :)
flashback [7d\]: ali is 6d now? :)
sheeryjay [2k\]: Ali must win .. tell him that EuroGoTV1 ;)
Shedal [2d\]: The only thing which composition lacks for the frame is couple of people ^^
Lukan [4d\]: Ali is 5.dan no?
fatihsulak [-\]: betting for this board or second board?
Shedal [2d\]: No Artem game today? :o
Shedal [2d\]: I mean, translated one.. :(
Sheeple [?\]: euro, you spelled w's name wrong
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: maybe artem on board 2, i am only sure of Cristian Pop play white there and i guessed opponant would be Ilia
sheeryjay [2k\]: Who will play Kim Junghyeop?
sheeryjay [2k\]: ah ... you pre-paired them :D
Shedal [2d\]: Harry, are you transcribing both boards?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no betting on 2nd board
Shedal [2d\]: 4 minutes before the beginning and still no pairings? :-)
Sheeple [?\]: kim will probably play some 4d.
sheeryjay [2k\]: Shedal, have you seen many real life tournaments? Sometimes pairings are made 1 hour after round should have started .. because players come late and do not announce if they play e.g.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no players yet
Shedal [2d\]: Umm, I've seen only Ukrainian internal tounemants, and I thought the pairings are made beforehand, and players should notify the administration at least half an hour before the beginning if they will not participate
fatihsulak [-\]: serious tournaments it seems :)
sayona [2k\]: Why ilia's game not board 1?
falloutti [1d?\]: korea > alibaba
eatramen [22k\]: lol
hadlar [5d?\]: KANG!!! kang is gonna own dani
fatihsulak [-\]: kang sos better
ickypoo [2k\]: video feed?
hadlar [5d?\]: kang is an epic name too. kang > ali
Goreon [2d\]: 5d vs 7d...
ickypoo [2k\]: kang-garoo
hadlar [5d?\]: king kang
hadlar [5d?\]: cause she redefines king
IASIGOCUP [-\]: hello all
IASIGOCUP [-\]: and GO GO ALI
hadlar [5d?\]: pff
hadlar [5d?\]: GO KANG
falloutti [1d?\]: don't root for sultan ali baba
NorthWind [5k\]: Kang fans are happy
falloutti [1d?\]: yea
falloutti [1d?\]: ali's fans are sad
falloutti [1d?\]: depressed
hadlar [5d?\]: kang is cool guy
IASIGOCUP [-\]: and Ali, too
eatramen [22k\]: guy?
NorthWind [5k\]: guy ? lol
IASIGOCUP [-\]: nice boy
falientje [10k\]: she is a girl
hadlar [5d?\]: i kno
hadlar [5d?\]: but she's still a cool guy
epoxygal [3k\]: wow there is advertisement now! cool
eatramen [22k\]: someone was calling her king kang uesterday and i said u mean queen and he said no king
eatramen [22k\]: *y
hadlar [5d?\]: lol that was me
littlebell [2k\]: start
eatramen [22k\]: haha i thought the sentence structure was similar
hadlar [5d?\]: haha
littlebell [2k\]: plllleaseeeee
hadlar [5d?\]: it can't start
hadlar [5d?\]: they aren't even at the board yet
kibord: stream still blocked for brasilians?
kibord: ^^^^
forbidden [-\]: what time do they start?
eatramen [22k\]: maybe ustream is blocked in brazil?
hadlar [5d?\]: lol there was laughter in the background
NorthWind [5k\]: when Ms Kang decides what to wear
hadlar [5d?\]: lol
hadlar [5d?\]: don't be so hard on kang
kibord: well wasnt block.... 
hadlar [5d?\]: she's got a lot of responsibilities being the king
kibord: now maybe permanent block
littlebell [2k\]: b must be a korean
eatramen [22k\]: she better take this tourney
littlebell [2k\]: nad woman
NorthWind [5k\]: not hard, we love Kang
kurikuri [1d\]: what happened in her game against Alexander ?
hadlar [5d?\]: ya i think she was a former korean insei
kurikuri [1d\]: who won?
eatramen [22k\]: she won
hadlar [5d?\]: she beat break
hadlar [5d?\]: cause break is n00b
kurikuri [1d\]: nice
kurikuri [1d\]: where can I see a replay of the game?
eatramen [22k\]: you just saying that hadlar or u got proof that she was
hadlar [5d?\]: i read it soemwhere
eatramen [22k\]: ahh link?
falientje [10k\]: yes she was a former korean insei
hadlar [5d?\]: link? ok. www.google.com
falientje [10k\]: just like jungheyop
Excalibor [-\]: it was a weird game
hirakawade [2d?\]: SEI de insei = pupil
kibord: sen ren!
hadlar [5d?\]: come to think of it i don't know anything about her style
sheeryjay [2k\]: Shedal, you are correct, but well, people do not always behave as expected, come 30 minutes late because they overslept (ofc. they lose 30 mins of game time) etc.
hadlar [5d?\]: i hope she's the aggressive fighting type
hadlar [5d?\]: those are always fun
NorthWind [5k\]: she plays quickly hadlar, maybe too quick
Excalibor [-\]: board 1 almost always starts late on this Congress :)
Shedal [2d\]: sheejay, I agree, but that should not affect pairings, I believe...
eatramen [22k\]: north she thinks on her opponents time too
Shedal [2d\]: *sheeryjay, sorry
hadlar [5d?\]: since B is korean, W has no chance
eatramen [22k\]: lol
eatramen [22k\]: ali is good tho
hadlar [5d?\]: meh
hadlar [5d?\]: he's too bookish
eatramen [22k\]: i see
hadlar [5d?\]: results in weak reading
Shedal [2d\]: W is jewish, B has no chance
hadlar [5d?\]: plus sometimes W clings too much to keeping the balance of territory to the point where he doesn't deliver the finishing blow
sheeryjay [2k\]: isn't being bookish good if one wants to teach others? :)
jim [6d\]: Ali strong enough , he need a good day for making game interesting
Am [5d\]: hello...
Am [5d\]: what about paring of this round? who is playing another boards? (thx)
hadlar [5d?\]: w reading is very spotty
hadlar [5d?\]: i've seen him make 2k reading mistake before, and also i've seen him do some good sequences
Shedal [2d\]: Am, actually it's not for sure about these boards either
Shedal [2d\]: There are no pairings yet
Am [5d\]: shedal, sure?!
hadlar [5d?\]: so jim, you are right. it would have to be a good day for W to have a chance against king kang
Goreon [2d\]: Kang must lose once more if Ilya wanna become european Champion, right?
Shedal [2d\]: EuroGoTV said he guessed about Ilia playing the 2nd board
falientje [10k\]: no kang cant be european champion
Bazilikan [2k\]: is betting still not gonna be possible today?
hadlar [5d?\]: kang can't be champ?
hadlar [5d?\]: why not
NorthWind [5k\]: I hope Artem wins the tourney. it would mean a lot to him I'm sure
Am [5d\]: ilya have to play with cristian, as i see...
falientje [10k\]: she can win the tournament, but the first european is european champion
Shedal [2d\]: hadlar, she's not european, that's why ;-)
hadlar [5d?\]: PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
hadlar [5d?\]: freaking lame
hadlar [5d?\]: weak europeans won't let her win cause she owns them
Am [5d\]: shedal, are u from fonland?
Goreon [2d\]: kang can be open champion
Am [5d\]: finland**
hadlar [5d?\]: wait
falloutti [1d?\]: Winland
NorthWind [5k\]: no hadlar, just trying to find out who is the best European
madkyu [5k?\]: me
hadlar [5d?\]: so if a european wins the whole thing, they are european champion, but if a non-euro wins the whole thing, they are just open champion and the best place euro guy is the european champion?
Shedal [2d\]: Am, no, I'm from Ukraine
falientje [10k\]: yes
Goreon [2d\]: nortwind it would mean a lot to anybody who tkaes part!
hadlar [5d?\]: ...
hadlar [5d?\]: i hope she wins then
Shedal [2d\]: hadlar, are you not european?
hadlar [5d?\]: no i'm american
NorthWind [5k\]: yes Goreon but Artem has a real chance, others don't
Goreon [2d\]: Ilya has
hadlar [5d?\]: that's a ridiculous system that the winner can't be called the european champion even at the European Go Congress
NorthWind [5k\]: Ilya already won it a few years back
Goreon [2d\]: yes
Goreon [2d\]: If artem wins he will be promoted to 7d automatically?
eatramen [22k\]: JANG early!
eatramen [22k\]: *KANG*
hadlar [5d?\]: ah
NorthWind [5k\]: no it's not ridiculous. Korea has enough recognition. be generous
hadlar [5d?\]: she shows up in the stream
engelchen [1d\]: weird an american dont know what euroean means
happy9d [13k?\]: haha
Ubiquitous [6k\]: when is this gonna start?
hadlar [5d?\]: lol screw generousity
hadlar [5d?\]: if you are the best, you deserve to be called the champ
hadlar [5d?\]: if you are not the best, then stop complaining and work harder
NorthWind [5k\]: best in what ?
A1R [4k\]: now she is waiting xD
eatramen [22k\]: i agree with hadkar
hadlar [5d?\]: best at the EGC
eatramen [22k\]: *l
engelchen [1d\]: europeans means from europe
hadlar [5d?\]: pff
hadlar [5d?\]: then don't plaster the name all over the tournament and not give the title to the winner
eatramen [22k\]: but its a tourney 
eatramen [22k\]: exactly
Maki1 [2k\]: Kang pretty casual today, no glasses...
Shedal [2d\]: Kang thinks already
eatramen [22k\]: the best placed european could get best european or something like that
Goreon [2d\]: dont feed hadlar trolling
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;B[pd]C[Shedal [2d\]: oh, she placed a stone
eatramen [22k\]: lol
NorthWind [5k\]: two different titles. of course the winner gets the title of EGC winner 
hadlar [5d?\]: no trolling, i'm stating the realities of the thing.
NorthWind [5k\]: pink today
Thony15 [11k\]: Wouaw Tant de Mond :D .
engelchen [1d\]: you just dont know korea is not in europe
Maki1 [2k\]: A Korean can not be a European champion, that is obvious to anyone with the least amount of common sense.
madkyu [5k?\]: b+r
eatramen [22k\]: wow ali is gonna need his time if he wants a good shot
hadlar [5d?\]: it's the European Go Congress, meaning if you're so desperate to want a european champion then don't allow non-euros to play. if you want everynoe to play, then don't complain about a non-euro winning. the winner should get everything, including the title of EGC champion, open champion, and european champion
Chascal [9k\]: It is indeed weird to be able to participate and yet not win the title...
Maki1 [2k\]: they allow non euros to play, but obviously a non euro can not be a euro champ
eatramen [22k\]: yeah i agree
Bazilikan [2k\]: ali... please win
Shedal [2d\]: Hadlar, I don't see what are you complaining about. EGC winner is a better title than the european champion title.
eatramen [22k\]: i agree with hadkar
eatramen [22k\]: *l
zc3k [1k\]: Q16 always good
engelchen [1d\]: thats wh yits called open and not closed
hadlar [5d?\]: cause if a non-euro wins, then how can anyone else be considered a champion? you you didn't win anything
Maki1 [2k\]: yes, you won the europen tournament
madkyu [5k?\]: it means "best european player"
Rufalin [4k\]: could an american get the Honinbo title?
Elenhin [-\]: hadlar, the qualifier "european" is added to the "champion" for a reason
hadlar [5d?\]: then call it the best euro player, not the european champion
falloutti [1d?\]: as long as ali baba's not the sultan of europe, everythings cool
Shedal [2d\]: Ah, that's just trolling
Maki1 [2k\]: Don't split hairs, hadlar
Shedal [2d\]: don't feed the troll
eatramen [22k\]: he isnt trolling
hadlar [5d?\]: no
eatramen [22k\]: i get what he's saying
hadlar [5d?\]: i'm saying a reality that people don't accept cause they're too weak and want hand outs
eatramen [22k\]: champion means you won the whole thing, best would be a better word
hadlar [5d?\]: yes
madkyu [5k?\]: oh dear
NorthWind [5k\]: hadlar is not a friendly person
hadlar [5d?\]: lol
Shedal [2d\]: eatramen, There's the ultimate title of EGC winner. And there's also a "best european player" title, which is secondary
eatramen [22k\]: is it best european
eatramen [22k\]: or european champ?
Shedal [2d\]: does it matter?
eatramen [22k\]: yes
hadlar [5d?\]: but is it called "best european player" or "european champion"
engelchen [1d\]: same
hadlar [5d?\]: yes it does matter!
falientje [10k\]: but Kang lives in Europe for now:P;)
eatramen [22k\]: it actually does
HKitty [3d?\]: Kang is not European
GoatCheese [1k\]: why does is matter?
engelchen [1d\]: champion means the best
falientje [10k\]: no she is korean, but she lives now in Europe
falloutti [1d?\]: kang's not european, wow, how did u figure that one out?
Shedal [2d\]: don't feed this discussion anymore, please
madkyu [5k?\]: who cares about the exact name, the meaning of it is obvious. 
GoatCheese [1k\]: im just curious why it matters
eatramen [22k\]: champion suggests they won the tourney, and if they didnt they shouldnt be called champ, just best european
HKitty [3d?\]: the discussion is incredibly stupid
eatramen [22k\]: why is that so hard to understand
hadlar [5d?\]: cause it's a tournament, where there can be only 1 champion. otherwise you might as well give everyone the title of champion
engelchen [1d\]: champion doesnt mean winner necessarily
HKitty [3d?\]: Best European = EUROPEAN champion
hadlar [5d?\]: definition of champion: someone who has won first place in a competition 
Bembelbote [-\]: the european cham is the european champ because he scored best out of all european.
madkyu [5k?\]: why do they call it mister universe if there are only people from earth at this contest?
TheThief: trolls+r
Bembelbote [-\]: lol, yeah
hadlar [5d?\]: he's not a champ cause he hasn't won crap
NorthWind [5k\]: hadlar doesn't want europeans to have a champion. he wants Koreans to have everything
kencabbit [1d\]: the european champion has won the competition to be the best european contendor in the tournament
jubjub [3k\]: World series of baseball only takes place in the US
eatramen [22k\]: madkyu you're just trolling with that universe line now
Shedal [2d\]: pairings are up! http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-pairing-r8.txt
hadlar [5d?\]: if you want to call it "best european player" then i wouldn't care. but don't call it something else, something that is only reserved for the real winner
Raz [3k\]: GO ALI!!
engelchen [1d\]: you can care
engelchen [1d\]: its all right
Bembelbote [-\]: just ignore hadlar and eatramen :)
madkyu [5k?\]: call obame and let him invade the EGC
madkyu [5k?\]: obama
eatramen [22k\]: jubjub ive always found american sports stupid, they call everything world when its one country, it pisses me off 
GoatCheese [1k\]: well I think European refers to the nationality
hadlar [5d?\]: i would care all the same even if kang wasn't korean. if she was say south american or w/e, the points would still be the same. no one except for the winner deserves to be called champion
ogre [2d?\]: wow so kang is currently 1 in tournament huh
jubjub [3k\]: hadlar "eurpean champion" can litteraly mean "best euro player" the phrase is just ambigious
GoatCheese [1k\]: therefore any non European could not be European champion by definition
hadlar [5d?\]: no
hadlar [5d?\]: champion by definition is someone who has won first place in a competition 
Jye [13k\]: hadlar: use a dictionary and consider that others may be using a slightly different definition
Jax [10k\]: I hope when the game gets going there will be talk about the moves rather than nationalities
GoatCheese [1k\]: but European by definition is someone or something from Europe
HKitty [3d?\]: There are two competions here, Hadlar, try to understand that.
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;W[dp]C[power [3k\]: hadlar, did your hear about CHampions of Chaos?
GoatCheese [1k\]: why can you only see the champion aspect and not the European aspect
hadlar [5d?\]: that's why i'm saying call it "best european player" not "european champion"
ogre [2d?\]: ali relaxed looking
NorthWind [5k\]: yay , a move
Bazilikan [2k\]: ali!!
zc3k [1k\]: D4 also good
HKitty [3d?\]: that is purely semantics, Hadlar and not worth fussing about
jubjub [3k\]: hadlar: you would make a great PR rep
GoatCheese [1k\]: The best european player wins the title of European champion.
eatramen [22k\]: game staretd 
eatramen [22k\]: it can end now
GoatCheese [1k\]: they are the champion among Europeans
eatramen [22k\]: the discussion i mean
Bembelbote [-\]: anyways. it's called european champion and IT WON#T BE CHANGED it. so calm down hadlar
hadlar [5d?\]: even if it's semantics, you're stealing the glory from the winner. and that shouldn't be the case just cause some weaker players wanna feel special by being called champ even though they didn't earn it
ogre [2d?\]: how many points for betting?
eatramen [22k\]: we get tha goatcheese champion just isnt a fitting word, it IMPLIES something else
Cthulhug [10k\]: ANYWAY. Anyone know what Kang's usual fuseki is?
nicinima [8k\]: why they just cant sit and play not peeing ever 10 mins or going out of table
HKitty [3d?\]: its a long game, nic
kencabbit [1d\]: it is rightly the place of the winner to decide if glory is stolen, get back to us when you win the title and feel slighted
NorthWind [5k\]: flexible
jubjub [3k\]: title's don't = glory
ogre [2d?\]: kang wearing cute hairdo
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;B[qp]
;W[dd]
;B[fq]
;W[cn]C[hadlar [5d?\]: kang going mini
Thony15 [11k\]: Kang 
Thony15 [11k\]: Kang
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;B[lq]C[HKitty [3d?\]: I once won part of a tournament and it did not make the person who won a more significant part of it unhappy in the slightest
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;W[qj]
;B[pk]C[ogre [2d?\]: uh l3?
Bembelbote [-\]: oh sry, didn't want to write inbig letters
ogre [2d?\]: is that where it really is?
ogre [2d?\]: ok
ogre [2d?\]: q9 is a neat move
AhSayuni [4d\]: this is not the common move with the mini mini chinese
hadlar [5d?\]: lol
kencabbit [1d\]: I was just about to put on the video to check that myself, ogre.. interesting
hadlar [5d?\]: q9 is the most common move ever
ogre [2d?\]: ywah what is m3 called
hadlar [5d?\]: everyone does q9
hadlar [5d?\]: ali knows q9 well, he has read a book on it
sheeryjay [2k\]: yeah, I think Cho Hye-Yeon made an article about it
ogre [2d?\]: yes but there used be other moves than q9
hadlar [5d?\]: this isn't the mini chinese
joej24 [15k\]: is this live?
hadlar [5d?\]: this is micro, and q9 is super powerful
madkyu [5k?\]: q9 is the campion move
NorthWind [5k\]: yeah
ogre [2d?\]: is it micro chinese or something?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Shedal [2d\]: Cho Hye-Yeon wrote a book on it, I think. This and Nadare joseki
ogre [2d?\]: ok thancs
hadlar [5d?\]: lol what is ali doing
hadlar [5d?\]: he's not even looking at the board
AhSayuni [4d\]: ho!
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;W[qk]
;B[ql]C[ogre [2d?\]: ali is very relaxed
AhSayuni [4d\]: surprise move
HKitty [3d?\]: no pressure on Ali, he is expected to lose
AhSayuni [4d\]: pros don't play it anymore
hadlar [5d?\]: r8 is also common
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sound ok?
Cthulhug [10k\]: cross cut?
eatramen [22k\]: i thought ali had long hair lol
hadlar [5d?\]: can't cross cut
hadlar [5d?\]: W should r3 
NorthWind [5k\]: yes I have sounds
onegoal [3k\]: sound is very good
nicinima [8k\]: her hands look like hiding that she hasnt shaved today xD
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: good quality sound or some noise in it?
NorthWind [5k\]: good
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ah , thx
hadlar [5d?\]: ali is like looking off into random directions
Thony15 [11k\]: Kang Kang Kang Kang Kang Kang Kang 
Dupaaxe [?\]: some air conditioning devices ?
Thony15 [11k\]: Kang Kang Kang Kang Kang Kang Kang Kang 
AhSayuni [4d\]: I saw r7 in a game once
hadlar [5d?\]: he's trying to remember the stuff he read
AhSayuni [4d\]: and w won
NorthWind [5k\]: I can hear Ali fiddling with the stones in the bowl
sheeryjay [2k\]: maybe Ali is trying to learn the blind playing style ^^
hadlar [5d?\]: from that book
ogre [2d?\]: ali trying to avoid c tesuji
hadlar [5d?\]: i think W has to r3 here
sheeryjay [2k\]: Ali's look suggests he's thinking :)
hadlar [5d?\]: let me look this move up
Thony15 [11k\]: Kang Kang Kang Kang Kang Kang Kang Kang Kang 
HKitty [3d?\]: ooo ah, she smiled at the camers ;)
hirakawade [2d?\]: Ali = What country ?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Israel
ogre [2d?\]: they should wave the camera
hirakawade [2d?\]: OK
AhSayuni [4d\]: why is no one referring to to her by her first name?
ogre [2d?\]: comon wave to us!
ogre [2d?\]: cause kangs short
grooviest [10k\]: hmm, my mom just commented that it's like watching paint dry ...
HKitty [3d?\]: Kang is a lot simpler
AhSayuni [4d\]: Kyoungnang :p
jascooper [6k?\]: Is there a place to look at the wallchart for the tournament?
Daoloth [-\]: s8 looks the simplest
AhSayuni [4d\]: lots of ng
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: http://egc2010.fi
ogre [2d?\]: if we learn nickname like kgs name it would be easyer to call her
NorthWind [5k\]: cos we're not familiar enough with Korean names. what would her friends call her
hadlar [5d?\]: r8 hasn't been played in any recent pro game in the past few years
Neocon [?\]: kyoung-nang is a family name, no?
hadlar [5d?\]: is probably why he's thinking a lot
ogre [2d?\]: naw kangs the name 
AhSayuni [4d\]: nope.. Kang is
HKitty [3d?\]: is q8 possible?
jascooper [6k?\]: thanks
Dupaaxe [?\]: This girl is too beautiful so I go to look Ilya
sagesse [-\]: maybe s8 ?
hadlar [5d?\]: let me check this with mini instead of micro
hadlar [5d?\]: ah
hadlar [5d?\]: 10 games found
falientje [10k\]: her friends call her kyoung nang
HKitty [3d?\]: what next, hadlar?
ogre [2d?\]: i only seen like one lecture about micro
falientje [10k\]: no kyoung nang is her first name
cuby [3k?\]: what is the green barrel in the wall banner?
hadlar [5d?\]: 9/10 played s8
hhh9998: a barrel of green tea
sagesse [-\]: supposed to be a glass of tea..)
ogre [2d?\]: what for b next ?
Jye [13k\]: ustream link anyone?
sgjiehui [2d?\]: b looks better
ogre [2d?\]: s8 q10 ?
NorthWind [5k\]: in my country we shorten names when being friendly
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: banner from the sponsor
ogre [2d?\]: q10 looks like interesting after s8
onegoal [3k\]: a glas of tea next to a goban with 18 lines
ogre [2d?\]: to try and get r11 
cuby [3k?\]: such good design, i would buy a poster
tazibrando: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/EuroGoTV1
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Jye [13k\]: ty tazi
kibord: t tazy
tazibrando: np
misha91 [2d\]: q8 !
hadlar [5d?\]: one of the games
hadlar [5d?\]: B responds to s8 with q10
hadlar [5d?\]: this is the seq:
snowman [-\]: The paper on the table is an invitation to the appeals committee meeting
hadlar [5d?\]: s8 q10 s7 q11 s12 q6 r13 B tenuki at f5
snowman [-\]: no details :)
tazibrando: q10 p9 r14 
hadlar [5d?\]: but this is with the mini, not micro. so that will play a factor
]
;W[qm]C[ogre [2d?\]: wao havent seen this 
NorthWind [5k\]: fight !
sagesse [-\]: here goes improvisation
hadlar [5d?\]: W is going for the same tactic if B did q8 r8 r7
HKitty [3d?\]: very interesting
tazibrando: q8 
ogre [2d?\]: nice!
hadlar [5d?\]: this will be painful for W is kang reads it clearly
]
;B[pl]
;W[rl]
;B[pm]
;W[qn]
;B[pn]C[gdegw: whats wrong with q7
onegoal [3k\]: she always looks so bored, she should bring her nintendo ds and a news paper to fill the time
hadlar [5d?\]: i wonder how much she knows about m3
hadlar [5d?\]: i really wanna learn more about it
]
;W[rp]
;B[rq]
;W[ro]
;B[rm]C[gdegw: oooh
HKitty [3d?\]: machine gun go
kibord: doh
Bazilikan [2k\]: i bet right but i still lost a point?
sgjiehui [2d?\]: nice move
gdegw: awesome
kibord: wow w already SAD
myongstu [4d\]: just a probe
tazibrando: r5?
joej24 [15k\]: they kind of look bored
ogre [2d?\]: b needs to try and get sente to play f6
kibord: r5 s9
NorthWind [5k\]: s9 must be ok
ogre [2d?\]: f6 is the normal plan for b in this kinda position
jubjub [3k\]: what is she reading?
adiida [3k\]: i'd s6 
adiida [3k\]: then q5
boatlord [6d\]: nice probe
kibord: s6 looks great for w wall
DiPerson [9k\]: r5
ogre [2d?\]: b gots the wall
elvard [2k\]: s6 gives white r11
elvard [2k\]: I mean black :)
Jax [10k\]: t7 
DiPerson [9k\]: s9
ogre [2d?\]: yes elvard
ogre [2d?\]: maybe w will fix that 
cuby [3k?\]: ali should wear her headband
NorthWind [5k\]: yeah Diner is going to get one :)
Daoloth [-\]: i'd be uncomfortable with giving b such thickness so early
ogre [2d?\]: but s3 is getting so into the corner
ogre [2d?\]: is that normal?
elvard [2k\]: anyway, what is probe in generall ? it looks to me like a miai, but with more that two options...
enk01 [7k\]: egc2010
boatlord [6d\]: b forces w to defend in a certain way now
hadlar [5d?\]: ila just walked by to check the board
kryft [1d\]: elvard, http://senseis.xmp.net/?Probe
boatlord [6d\]: for instance, better for w group to defend s9
]
;W[rn]C[hadlar [5d?\]: ila now hovering around looking at board
ogre [2d?\]: hmmmm
elvard [2k\]: yes, i Know :) I read a lot about it, but I want hear your opinions
FairyTale [4d\]: s9 t7 r11 
HKitty [3d?\]: ooo ahhh s9 possible?
ogre [2d?\]: maybe q5
adiida [3k\]: that's my choice ... :)
cherisse [1k\]: who is ali? i wanna see illia on board 1!!!
]
;B[rk]
;W[sm]C[ogre [2d?\]: oh
]
;B[qi]C[HKitty [3d?\]: yes
hadlar [5d?\]: wow kang does the most aggressive way
HKitty [3d?\]: this is utter pwnage
Trivia [2k?\]: you can see him on board 2
ogre [2d?\]: very tactical
AhSayuni [4d\]: I'm not sure
DiPerson [9k\]: q10
ogre [2d?\]: i was thinking q5 and then f6
AhSayuni [4d\]: w is alive now
hadlar [5d?\]: i think she won't gote fix at q10
AhSayuni [4d\]: maybe he can go out
HKitty [3d?\]: q10 is awful
hadlar [5d?\]: corner is more important
sesbes [2k?\]: White  has empty triangle with r6.
adiida [3k\]: i think he needs to q5
AhSayuni [4d\]: and aim at Q5
jascooper [6k?\]: Love watching Kang, she plays so fast and her opponents follow suit
ogre [2d?\]: i meant b q5  instead of s9
cuby [3k?\]: r3!
Trivia [2k?\]: q10 no doubt
sayona [2k\]: q can aim for r5
Thony15 [11k\]: Kang Kang Kang Kang Kang 
adiida [3k\]: q5
sayona [2k\]: double atari with r5
adiida [3k\]: otherwise won't get the chance anymore
]
;W[qq]
;B[pq]
;W[qr]C[sayona [2k\]: also removes empty trianle
]
;B[pp]C[cuby [3k?\]: w00t
ogre [2d?\]: hehe go cuby
sayona [2k\]: s2
NorthWind [5k\]: cuby !
Thony15 [11k\]: Kang Kang Kang Kang Kang Kang Kang 
codelyoko [5d\]: q2 p2 p3 
mysticcage [-\]: how strong r european 7d?
]
;W[pr]
;B[or]
;W[rr]C[cuby [3k?\]: now i am 1-118 in move guesses
mysticcage [-\]: in comparsion to aga rank
]
;B[rj]C[HKitty [3d?\]: zomg
ogre [2d?\]: whyw mull around inthe corner
FairyTale [4d\]: european 7d, aga 7d; both top.
HKitty [3d?\]: now he can resign
onegoal [3k\]: 7d is highest rank you can get
Cthulhug [10k\]: k16?
Doukan [3k\]: is this the last round?
shihu [9k\]: i'm in love after that move
ogre [2d?\]: p3 not protected but it doesnt matter 
StefanRadu [1k\]: what is w doiing..?
]
;W[jd]C[DiPerson [9k\]: k 16
]
;B[fo]C[mysticcage [-\]: well w does not play like a 6d at the moment imo
sagesse [-\]: looks terrible for white
WVoron [4d\]: w lol
jascooper [6k?\]: love the little ad at the bottom of the USTREAM
shihu [9k\]: she is great
Imvatim [?\]: ... yeesh
ILoveKang: go Kanggggg
AhSayuni [4d\]: d2 seems wrong here to me
A1R [4k\]: isnt white 5d`?
ogre [2d?\]: lol b ignore your ladder threat
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no ads on EuroGoTV
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Daoloth [-\]: Kang likes big moyos
littlebell [2k\]: who doesn't?
FairyTale [4d\]: hmm...L6?
Daoloth [-\]: good question
cuby [3k?\]: w spent 11 stones to make 10 pts
Trivia [2k?\]: fast game liekely
sdfsdd: has anybody seen this?
sdfsdd: http://www.baduklessons.com/
A1R [4k\]: what about k4?
sdfsdd: saw it in a romanian website 
Doukan [3k\]: can we see the standings?
ogre [2d?\]: um ok 
NorthWind [5k\]: B wall better than W 10 point corner
littlebell [2k\]: cuby, that we call hard labor
ogre [2d?\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-results.txt
Doukan [3k\]: ty
ogre [2d?\]: whats that d9 he went?
]
;W[dk]
;B[cf]C[littlebell [2k\]: kang is aggressive woman
Trivia [2k?\]: hehe
FairyTale [4d\]: d9 feels bit passive to me
grooviest [10k\]: when's a good time for b q10?
AhSayuni [4d\]: b15?
littlebell [2k\]: who likes agressive woman/ raise hand
Jax [10k\]: I was thinking h3 or j3 for w instead of k16, but now attacking  b moyo seems dangerous with the f5
hadlar [5d?\]: raises hand*
]
;W[ce]
;B[df]
;W[fd]
;B[di]C[hadlar [5d?\]: they are the most fun
Imvatim [?\]: this reminds of hikaru no go's "i play quick to force you to play quicker"
littlebell [2k\]: hehehe
eatramen [22k\]: haha
AhSayuni [4d\]: o17?
NorthWind [5k\]: grooviest, according to Kageyama, as soon as possible
ogre [2d?\]: she is so intimidating 
A1R [4k\]: if she is agressive than you didnt see yoon youngsun 8p playing...she is absolutely agressive
]
;W[nc]
;B[pc]C[A1R [4k\]: right zacki?!
hadlar [5d?\]: she's not intimidating
jascooper [6k?\]: Does B have a 30 point lead in moyo?
hadlar [5d?\]: she's 16 yr old girl lol
hadlar [5d?\]: how is that intimidating
A1R [4k\]: no
HKitty [3d?\]: no, shes 20
hadlar [5d?\]: wait she's 20?
eatramen [22k\]: aye she is 20
A1R [4k\]: ye
nanotech [2k\]: no she is 24
cuby [3k?\]: pink sparkly headband, run for the hills!!
hadlar [5d?\]: the thing i read about her must've been old then
hadlar [5d?\]: but even then
A1R [4k\]: well the email consists...cute20....
Trivia [2k?\]: she's not intimidating she's unnerving
Wagaboo [10k\]: i've never seen a q17 
]
;W[ne]C[NorthWind [5k\]: always guess low :)
hadlar [5d?\]: not intimidating
]
;B[pf]C[AhSayuni [4d\]: oh
cuby [3k?\]: ali dropped the stone on purpose
ogre [2d?\]: ali looks intimidated
strong10k [-\]: she doesnt seem to take her oppoent seriously considering how fast she replys
grooviest [10k\]: NorthWind, she must no what she's doing but I'd be itching to take ...
Jax [10k\]: aggressiveness is the best way to keep sente
ogre [2d?\]: her moves isnt bad strong
ogre [2d?\]: this looks fine
grooviest [10k\]: NorthWind ... no -> know :(
strong10k [-\]: never said they were bad
ogre [2d?\]: she think when she nees to
falientje [10k\]: the email doesnt say anything, she has that email adress for more then 3 years.... but she is 20 years old now
hadlar [5d?\]: good, so i can't feel bad for liking her
Daoloth [-\]: w needs to do something serious soon
hadlar [5d?\]: W will probably just l4
Thony15 [11k\]: Aller Ali te laisse pas fair Ralla :D 
hadlar [5d?\]: seems like a move he's play
hadlar [5d?\]: he'd*
HKitty [3d?\]: she takes her opponent seriously. She just uses his time to think and when he plays predictably the reply is ready
craig [4k\]: w needs to reduce the moyo now?
eatramen [22k\]: this is intimidating
eatramen [22k\]: http://www.wbaduk.com/news/news_view.asp?news_no=31&listType=1&tabMenu=1&global_div=&national_code_no=&index_div=
AhSayuni [4d\]: d2 also looks possible
hadlar [5d?\]: i'm so glad she beat din
eatramen [22k\]: look at sedol's face
hadlar [5d?\]: din needs to be defeated until he gets stronger
ogre [2d?\]: b git nice points in upper right
NorthWind [5k\]: g4
nhanh [1d\]: are there undefeated palyers?
Jax [10k\]: L4 or K4. or is that too deep for w?
strong10k [-\]: h5
hadlar [5d?\]: all areas are taken now
sesbes [2k?\]: How deep can white invade?
hadlar [5d?\]: the first battle will surely begin
ogre [2d?\]: after moyo fighting w frameworks might be smushed in alot
codelyoko [5d\]: d2 is very big
sesbes [2k?\]: Shuko's book on invasions doesn't help me here
HKitty [3d?\]: Sedol is a monster, very clearly world #1
hadlar [5d?\]: d2 looks slow
happydog [7k\]: nhanh: I think everybody has lost a game now.
hadlar [5d?\]: B will play a move to fix his bottom
nhanh [1d\]: thnx
hadlar [5d?\]: and then what happens? invasion seems too hard
hadlar [5d?\]: her*
ogre [2d?\]: well d2 helps f3 stones if they are separated
]
;W[dr]C[nhanh [1d\]: but ilya still top?
codelyoko [5d\]: :)
hadlar [5d?\]: now
ogre [2d?\]: he goed there
hadlar [5d?\]: i say B+
]
;B[cc]C[codelyoko [5d\]: the famous hadlar :)
HKitty [3d?\]: hehehehe
HKitty [3d?\]: san san
hadlar [5d?\]: ;P
hadlar [5d?\]: yes i am famous
hadlar [5d?\]: cause i'm awesome
eatramen [22k\]: lol
HKitty [3d?\]: ;Þ
codelyoko [5d\]: i say W+
hadlar [5d?\]: lol
hadlar [5d?\]: you would say that
AhSayuni [4d\]: w has more territory
hadlar [5d?\]: but it's wrong
schwiggity [7k\]: b15 artem's response
happydog [7k\]: Don't know about the order at the top, sry.
joej24 [15k\]: is white behind?
AhSayuni [4d\]: without komi
cherisse [1k\]: eurogotv link pls ^_^
littlebell [2k\]: kang is trouble maker
joej24 [15k\]: that right side wall looks very intimidating
strong10k [-\]: b15 pretty standard i would say
lemurov [-\]: b+ for sure look at kang look at ali!
ogre [2d?\]: b16 
craig [4k\]: it's pretty even joi
]
;W[be]
;B[ec]C[ogre [2d?\]: thats what w did
]
;W[ed]C[littlebell [2k\]: look at C17
]
;B[fc]
;W[dc]C[joej24 [15k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
]
;B[db]C[Thony15 [11k\]: Rallla :D .
]
;W[gc]
;B[gb]
;W[cb]
;B[hc]
;W[gd]C[codelyoko [5d\]: too fast ...
cherisse [1k\]: thank you
]
;B[eb]
;W[bc]
;B[jc]C[hadlar [5d?\]: not too fast
hadlar [5d?\]: it's just a standard seq
Ripples [2k\]: that wall isnt gonna do anything :((((
AhSayuni [4d\]: really is too fast I think
hadlar [5d?\]: <_<
strong10k [-\]: yeah quite standard
AhSayuni [4d\]: even if it's standard
codelyoko [5d\]: even a basic joseki would have to be played slowly
strong10k [-\]: saw that 20 moves ago
ogre [2d?\]: not everyone know it
hadlar [5d?\]: >_>_>_>_>_>
ogre [2d?\]: so watchers want it slower
Trivia [2k?\]: ws kand late again today?
hadlar [5d?\]: if they deviate, then i'll read out the punish
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: this waekens d16
hadlar [5d?\]: but until then, blitzing through
AhSayuni [4d\]: w could've played c18 earlier
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: d14 i mean
yamashitaK [5d\]: go Kang !!!
AhSayuni [4d\]: instead of g17
nanotech [2k\]: kang just destroyed w "moyo"
]
;W[kc]
;B[ic]C[AhSayuni [4d\]: might've been better
Daoloth [-\]: w needs to kill the left group
jascooper [6k?\]: gotta love the speed Go
hadlar [5d?\]: kang plays the korean way
Jax [10k\]: w just lost his territory
ogre [2d?\]: c17 strengthens d14
strong10k [-\]: why everyone cheering for her just because she is a girl
hadlar [5d?\]: "i dare you to kill d14"
sagesse [-\]: thats ws plan
ogre [2d?\]: c16 is between
yamashitaK [5d\]: strong shes a cute girl ^^
sagesse [-\]: to attack left of course
HKitty [3d?\]: I wonder why w did not confine Kang to teh corner
strong10k [-\]: i've seen cuter
happydog [7k\]: I'm cheering for her because she is stong.
jascooper [6k?\]: I cheer because she plays fast...and I have to go to bed
strong10k [-\]: they dont play go though
hadlar [5d?\]: i'm cheering for her cause she's strongest player at EGC and cause she's a young cute girl
HKitty [3d?\]: have you seen a cuter 7d?
hadlar [5d?\]: yes
Madzilla [5d?\]: you're being very disrespectful... 
hadlar [5d?\]: lol
Nilatarion [3d\]: blitz
eatramen [22k\]: good one jas lol 
Wagaboo [10k\]: j4?
codelyoko [5d\]: l18 
cherisse [1k\]: ohh different kang look today 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: too bad she cannot join www.EuroGoPro.org
joej24 [15k\]: why not
Doukan [3k\]: who is that guy behind them
ogre [2d?\]: why
grooviest [10k\]: could you keep your hormones in check hadlar? thx
NorthWind [5k\]: W doesn't seem aggressive enough to win this
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: not European passport
mcc: b win 4,5
strong10k [-\]: lol
schwiggity [7k\]: doukan: Ilya
eatramen [22k\]: because she isnt european?
jascooper [6k?\]: EGC needs to end...boss is getting tired of me sleeping at work
HKitty [3d?\]: yes
sheeryjay [2k\]: wow interesting link Harry ^_^
Doukan [3k\]: oh ok ^^
nanotech [2k\]: so this game is already finished
hadlar [5d?\]: grooviest, get some dan hormones
AhSayuni [4d\]: I'm quite possitive that c18 instead of g17 was better
joej24 [15k\]: Is black ahead? I can't really tell
]
;W[kd]
;B[ca]C[littlebell [2k\]: hehehe
Daoloth [-\]: w used too many stones for his corner groups :|
]
;W[bb]
;B[fi]C[littlebell [2k\]: i am not suprised, Joe
hadlar [5d?\]: lol
NschoTschi [-\]: b leading?
ogre [2d?\]: b seems to be one step ahead now
hadlar [5d?\]: B steals W's top and fixes his group
Nilatarion [3d\]: yes
hadlar [5d?\]: her
hadlar [5d?\]: i keep saying his lol
joej24 [15k\]: ohh thats very smart
Ubiquitous [6k\]: b gets to do w/e she wants
eatramen [22k\]: maybe its because u always say king and guy :P
wysek [1k?\]: no glasses today?
NschoTschi [-\]: Isnt Ali 5d?
hadlar [5d?\]: W had to ignore c19 no matter what value it was
joej24 [15k\]: 6 today
joej24 [15k\]: hahahaha
ogre [2d?\]: this game is going soo fast
hadlar [5d?\]: should've just attacked
monkeyDgo [3k\]: would black aim for a j15/h15 cut?
ogre [2d?\]: its like a ligtning tournament
hadlar [5d?\]: now this is like W is playing from behind
sesbes [2k?\]: Is F9 pretty much forced?
strong10k [-\]: i dont think white is behind much
hadlar [5d?\]: ...
noemotions [1k\]: stream
noemotions [1k\]: pls
hadlar [5d?\]: what game are you watching
littlebell [2k\]: now b  almost millionaire and  w is homeless
Eilinen [-\]: :D
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
monkeyDgo [3k\]: C12
ogre [2d?\]: g9
zaz2: When I try to view the stream it says it's offline. I remember I used to be able to view them.
strong10k [-\]: honestly, millionaire and homeless? think you are overreacting
strong10k [-\]: white has a good chance
madkyu [5k?\]: B left the table and resigned 
yamashitaK [5d\]: h3
ILoveKang: go Kanggg
mcc1: b win 4.5
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: where do you live zaz2?
zaz2: I'm in Canada
hadlar [5d?\]: look at black's stones. his thickness is useful thanks to f3 stones, his corner is solid thanks to q17's iron strength, his top is alive with points thanks to k17, and his floating group is already with shape and out in center threatening f9 and working perfectly with everything
ogre [2d?\]: maybe e10
noemotions [1k\]: here no stream?
BALLZ [3k\]: about equal points but b potential is huge compared to w
noemotions [1k\]: ah thx
monfil: what if h3 j4
joej24 [15k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 stream
monfil: feels too low
ogre [2d?\]: h3 w can get under to f2
hadlar [5d?\]: look at w. corner with points and another corner is solid but can be forced. and then look at his top. he's got all that thickness facing a solid group and his l16 is overconcentrated
eatramen [22k\]: hadlar u said "his" multiple times lol
ogre [2d?\]: its pretty safe
monfil: it's safe but is it enough
Bazilikan [2k\]: can i have forcast on the next move?
Ubiquitous [6k\]: just needs to live there and its enough?
hadlar [5d?\]: it's a habit since most go players are men
hadlar [5d?\]: xD
ogre [2d?\]: no monfil
joej24 [15k\]: hahaha
ogre [2d?\]: its a insurance policy
ogre [2d?\]: of course w does not go directly for f2
kibord: mamamia w so bad in this one
monfil: exactly
joej24 [15k\]: why not?
hadlar [5d?\]: BTW kang has left the board
joej24 [15k\]: f2 not safe?
ogre [2d?\]: i dont know what moves but w can try stuff and then get out safely
monfil: h3 j4 f2 f8 and b looking even better than now
cherisse [1k\]: and so did illia!
AhSayuni [4d\]: I guess Ali played lots of Poker last night
Trivia [2k?\]: f2 will give B solid points
ogre [2d?\]: whatabout e10 tho 
sesbes [2k?\]: F2 will make black strong too fast
joej24 [15k\]: okay
ogre [2d?\]: e10 e11 g9 
wysek [1k?\]: r u saying that Kang with Ilya..?
sesbes [2k?\]: First reduce from the top then f2 maybe
eatramen [22k\]: these players get up alot, in asian tourney i dont think those high level dans move 
ogre [2d?\]: its look nice?
shihu [9k\]: ali just looked at us for help!
joej24 [15k\]: yay shes back!
Trivia [2k?\]: also W has some aji connect on the bottom
cherisse [1k\]: maybe there are sneaking to play on another board...
cherisse [1k\]: who is ali? kgs player too?
ogre [2d?\]: h3 is going away tho if b go at e2 in sente
monfil: i'd say attach to m3
Jax [10k\]: I count w only having around 40 solid points so far and not much influence. Black has also around 40 solid points with alot of influence on the board.
kibord: l5
strong10k [-\]: throw a girl at a go room, and all hell breaks loose
monfil: l5 kind of helps b
A1R [4k\]: iwould play e12
craig [4k\]: i don't think you wan't to put your fingers in your mouth after touching those stones...
sesbes [2k?\]: If black plays f9 game over
AURELIE46 [3d\]: h11^^
ogre [2d?\]: players should bring their own designer stones
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
joej24 [15k\]: why did ali pick white if he is lower rank?
ogre [2d?\]: more hygenic too
monfil: l5 k4 and h3 is no longer safe
hadlar [5d?\]: B has about 30 solid
F525 [15k\]: Preferred playing style is my guess.
]
;W[fk]
;B[hi]C[ogre [2d?\]: oh ikken
eatramen [22k\]: joej its an even game
jim [6d\]: H3 time
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: for ikken see the EuroGoTV-News
ogre [2d?\]: yeah now that theres a stone hanging over f5
monfil: w out of ideas
grooviest [10k\]: f9 helps l3
engelchen [1d\]: ilyas germs are living in that bowls
Jax [10k\]: now w can invade with J5?
pirate [?\]: The One-point Jump is never bad!  :)
F525 [15k\]: L2 gogo!
]
;W[hk]C[jim [6d\]: game is ok till now, if white H3  
Doby [6k\]: rattling you stones is supposed to be such bad form....  so many players do it
hadlar [5d?\]: black e2 here
craig [4k\]: now b looking thin in two places...
monfil: can b cut somehow?
joej24 [15k\]: isn't it like twirling your chips in poker doby?
]
;B[ip]C[Madzilla [5d?\]: it's not a big deal unless you do it excessively, Doby
Trivia [2k?\]: where else is B weak?
F525 [15k\]: I think people in general need to be a little less stuck-up.
monfil: b not weak anymore haha
Wagaboo [10k\]: f14 ?
Dupaaxe [?\]: jedi is back :)
ogre [2d?\]: thats whats wrong with going one space jumps...
sesbes [2k?\]: Part of the fun of playing on a board is rattling the stones a little bit.
]
;W[jj]C[craig [4k\]: nothing wrong with shuffling chips playing poker, unless you don't mind giving your opponent free info
AhSayuni [4d\]: keima?
]
;B[ck]C[Trivia [2k?\]: is ali a poker player?
kibord: yes
monfil: j4 is victory move
wysek [1k?\]: looks like she already knows the result
HKitty [3d?\]: I once played with a handfull of stones and took them out one by one instead of from the bowl. I was told that was rude, but that was in Japan.
monfil: where is w going to find pts
codelyoko [5d\]: black has more point than white , and he has a moyo ...
]
;W[dl]C[Trivia [2k?\]: S7 was a victory move :+}
]
;B[jh]C[hadlar [5d?\]: what happened to your W+ declaration codel?
Dupaaxe [?\]: Is not happy
HKitty [3d?\]: b is thick and has more points = easy win
Dupaaxe [?\]: Look at her eyes
codelyoko [5d\]: yes but ... white played bad :p
hadlar [5d?\]: lol
hadlar [5d?\]: pff
monfil: already over feels like
sdfsdd: lol
monkeyDgo [3k\]: o13
hadlar [5d?\]: excuses excuses
poiu66 [3k\]: haha
F525 [15k\]: Until he forces a fight and whoever wins the fight wins the game, leaving their current situation completely worthless.
codelyoko [5d\]: not at all
hadlar [5d?\]: stop excusing yourself so much
hadlar [5d?\]: take your faults and mistakes like a man
ogre [2d?\]: why did w do bad? w looked so calm also coming into this game
codelyoko [5d\]: lol
Wagaboo [10k\]: m8 ?
Jax [10k\]: I bet w regrets going h9 instead of j4
ogre [2d?\]: and he is strong player too
Wagaboo [10k\]: for b
strong10k [-\]: white plays very calm
HKitty [3d?\]: the current situation will influence any future fight. That's why its good to be thick
F525 [15k\]: I thought you pointed out J3 not H4.
Doby [6k\]: was that Ilya still blowing his nose?
monkeyDgo [3k\]: c12
sesbes [2k?\]: When does white play f2?
]
;W[gg]C[Doby [6k\]: on the next board
ogre [2d?\]: before b goes e2?
F525 [15k\]: Isn't F2 here nearly worthless?
monfil: that's 100 moves too early
ogre [2d?\]: nah its kinda big
nanotech [2k\]: Hi
hadlar [5d?\]: f2 worth a lot, but in yose
hadlar [5d?\]: this isn't yose
sesbes [2k?\]: F2, g2, e3 will black defend f4 or atari at f1?
monfil: if w f2 around this time it's like saying i lose let's wrap up
hadlar [5d?\]: atari
ogre [2d?\]: yeah
hadlar [5d?\]: if w loses the ko, then B can c2 and steal corner
Doukan [3k\]: Ilya pays more attention to this match than his own
hadlar [5d?\]: because W doesn't have e6, it's possible
]
;B[ik]C[Doby [6k\]: Ilya has come to watch.......
Doby [6k\]: as spread germs to their borad as well
hadlar [5d?\]: LOL
ogre [2d?\]: yay ilia we get some more action on the camera
HKitty [3d?\]: Ilya is trying to distract her by coughing
Trivia [2k?\]: j9 is cool
hadlar [5d?\]: ilya is looking at kang
ILoveKang: i'll bet you an eyeball he's in love with Kang
AhSayuni [4d\]: push?
joej24 [15k\]: haha
hadlar [5d?\]: ilya in love with kang haha
monfil: b quite stronger
Doukan [3k\]: haha
Trivia [2k?\]: go home Ilya she's taken
HKitty [3d?\]: w is cut
poiu66 [3k\]: haha
monfil: b is a girl?
hadlar [5d?\]: ya
monfil: haha nice
hadlar [5d?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 check out the stream
Doukan [3k\]: ali will lose on purpose
hadlar [5d?\]: you see what they both look like
NschoTschi [-\]: y 'haha'?
joej24 [15k\]: how about m11 white?
Trivia [2k?\]: whtie has to fight now
mcc1: b + 4.5
monfil: b is pro then?
hiss [-\]: the best responce to cut is cut?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no
]
;W[ij]
;B[hj]C[Doby [6k\]: both quite young, looks like
ogre [2d?\]: yea cut but then what
Trivia [2k?\]: i just marvel how easy Kang's play is
]
;W[hl]
;B[jk]C[monfil: then anything lol
HKitty [3d?\]: she is really fab
Trivia [2k?\]: first cut read later
shodan2009 [5k\]: black will win this fight
monfil: point is w can't capture k9 either
ILoveKang: first cut kill later
monfil: and b stronger in this area
HKitty [3d?\]: shodan2009, its 2010 now...
o3epo [1k\]: game over
monfil: lol....
shodan2009 [5k\]: yes it is
Trivia [2k?\]: oops shodan 2013 then
Jax [10k\]: How is K6?
F525 [15k\]: W should totally come out with R10.
Doby [6k\]: yes.   w must sacrifice the two stones somehow
joej24 [15k\]: cmoon white!
F525 [15k\]: At Q10.
Trivia [2k?\]: K8
Doby [6k\]: get the most for them
hadlar [5d?\]: shodan2009, being shodan is lame and boring
hadlar [5d?\]: you should get another goal
ogre [2d?\]: if w lose the 2 stomes it sucks worse 
]
;W[kj]
;B[kk]C[monfil: like 9p2011
shodan2009 [5k\]: yes it is that's y i'm back to 5k
ogre [2d?\]: w need save stones make b have to alive inside
Jax [10k\]: ladder is good for w so q10 would be good
sesbes [2k?\]: If white gives up those stones then g13 is wasted
Trivia [2k?\]: you should get a solid rank hadlar
Doby [6k\]: 3 w stones so heavy now
Dupaaxe [?\]: like 1k 2013 ? :)
hadlar [5d?\]: getting solid rank is also lame and boring
NorthWind [5k\]: k7
Trivia [2k?\]: so are your kibitzes
GoatCheese [1k\]: is not trolling also lame and boring
hadlar [5d?\]: this way, people think "is he really 5d? or just n00b"
HKitty [3d?\]: for once I agree with Hadlar...
ogre [2d?\]: they think noob
monfil: w is thinking ... if i resign now do i still have a shot at the girl
hadlar [5d?\]: haha
strong10k [-\]: PROorDEATH2012
ogre [2d?\]: they walways think noob
ogre [2d?\]: lol
hadlar [5d?\]: if they think n00b that's fine with me
Farcas [3d\]: i whana see whu plays in round 8 , ?
joej24 [15k\]: haha strong10k
cuby [3k?\]: she has the slender arms of a huntsman spider
Doukan [3k\]: what is noob?
F525 [15k\]: If you have to ask,
Farcas [3d\]: beeginer
Trivia [2k?\]: www.egc2010.fi Farcas
eatramen [22k\]: hadlar is a sandbagger :p
F525 [15k\]: I'm sorry, but it's you.
Farcas [3d\]: ty
hadlar [5d?\]: lol
Jax [10k\]: K6 still looks good to me
Doby [6k\]: noob = newbie = new person
engelchen [1d\]: wannabe expert 
hadlar [5d?\]: solid 5d too many responsibilities
lose100 [2k?\]: what are the ages of the two players?
F525 [15k\]: Must be a hard life, being 5d.
HKitty [3d?\]: 9 and 12
hadlar [5d?\]: yep
alexanderp [?\]: buyrun:)
Doby [6k\]: looks like both still in high school
F525 [15k\]: It's hard at 15k too.
hadlar [5d?\]: been there, done that. moving on to the awesomer world of "?"
Doukan [3k\]: buyrun ?
monfil: how old are b and w
NorthWind [5k\]: 5d ? easier
alexanderp [?\]: wrong window, Doukan
GoatCheese [1k\]: i think you used to be a serious go player hadlar
Doby [6k\]: ask their agents
GoatCheese [1k\]: then you gave up
hadlar [5d?\]: haha
hadlar [5d?\]: lol
Dupaaxe [?\]: noob is a never progress beginner
Trivia [2k?\]: i only drifted to 2d? then the fun stops
]
;W[lk]C[GoatCheese [1k\]: its ok. you will find your way back to the path one day
]
;B[ll]C[GoatCheese [1k\]: not all those who wander are lost
GoatCheese [1k\]: so I have heard
hadlar [5d?\]: it's true and do you want to know why? cause being stronger is boring and depressing. the stronger you get, the harder to rank up and the less reward for input of effort
GoatCheese [1k\]: i see
Trivia [2k?\]: rank is for n00bs
eatramen [22k\]: a noob is a newbie who acts as if they're a pro but realli dont have those knd of skills
monfil: until u get monetary reward lol
F525 [15k\]: The same goes for anything in life, though.
ogre [2d?\]: maybe b wil make a mistake and the game can get more interesting
Doukan [3k\]: so lets go back to 20kyu then..
F525 [15k\]: The better you get at something, the slower the progress (rewards).
joej24 [15k\]: hwo fun was 15 k for you hadlar?
NorthWind [5k\]: yeah, take some social skills course instead
hadlar [5d?\]: right, so i need to focus energies on more rewarding things
happydog [7k\]: Goat: true, but I'd guess that w's fire will not be woken from ashes in this game.
HKitty [3d?\]: like girls
GoatCheese [1k\]: the economic concept of diminishing returns
hadlar [5d?\]: yep
GoatCheese [1k\]: applies to many things
monfil: so jack of all trades is the way of life?
cuby [3k?\]: hadlar anagram for Hard Al
Trivia [2k?\]: i dont like W nursing this weak group here
Doby [6k\]: as i said.... heavy
Daoloth [-\]: not much choice anymore
F525 [15k\]: I like it because of the ladder possibility with Q10.
Trivia [2k?\]: i didnt like L10
hadlar [5d?\]: 15k was the most fun for me ever
Doby [6k\]: must try to connect to the top then
hadlar [5d?\]: my mostt memorable rank up was 16k to 15k
Trivia [2k?\]: at 15k, group magically live and die
joej24 [15k\]: heyy that was me today!
hadlar [5d?\]: cause i was 16k for so long and desperately wanted the 15k
GoatCheese [1k\]: I cant even remember being 15k haha
hiss [-\]: l8 
hadlar [5d?\]: worked hard for it and finally got it and i was super happy
grooviest [10k\]: i think w is gearing up for an attack on d11
hadlar [5d?\]: happier than when i got 1d
monfil: not hadlar lol ... he was 15k yesterday
Trivia [2k?\]: i remember i was 25k at IGS for so long
]
;W[lj]C[HKitty [3d?\]: I got 1d and then I lost it somewhere, still cant find it ;(
ogre [2d?\]: igs is weird like that
ogre [2d?\]: i started playing on igs
NorthWind [5k\]: start a new account. I'm sure the 15k s will be delighted
hadlar [5d?\]: and when i say 16k, i mean the old 16k in KGS2. back then the 19k-10k meant something
hadlar [5d?\]: not like today
ogre [2d?\]: i was surprised when the opponents were weaker after i got to 10k
hadlar [5d?\]: 16k back then is probably 8k or so now
GoatCheese [1k\]: I didnt know it was different back then
hiss [-\]: w wants b to try to kill this group
joej24 [15k\]: huh 
monfil: why would it be different
GoatCheese [1k\]: I remember a few years back all the ratings got a jump
hadlar [5d?\]: ya
GoatCheese [1k\]: they have not done that in a while though
ZothOmmog [4k\]: white is mean
joej24 [15k\]: maybe it was because the community might have been smaller 
ogre [2d?\]: igs 25k is twice as strong as igs 10k
Trivia [2k?\]: at 15k you can progress by just playing. Now you have to learn these boring tesuji.... joseki....
hadlar [5d?\]: because of that jump, KGS ranks from 29k-10k got completely pointless
Wagaboo [10k\]: black leads
GoatCheese [1k\]: true
strong10k [-\]: i remember my first non 9x9 game, beat some 18k badly, then he did some stupid trick to get me caught in a snapback and brought him group to life, in the end i used some magical lag tesuji and won by time
ILoveKang: why do they adjust the ranks like that anyway?
HKitty [3d?\]: w could care less about killing the group. Winning the game is her plan and if she wins it b y killing the group or harrassing it she could care less
GoatCheese [1k\]: because of tournaments maybe
sheeryjay [2k\]: hadlar, I was robbed of being 15k by kgs ... I was 16k before the rating shift, then I became like 9k :(
]
;B[km]C[GoatCheese [1k\]: people with a kgs rank entering a tournament were actually stronger
F525 [15k\]: M13 into ladder!
hadlar [5d?\]: sheer, that really sux
Trivia [2k?\]: boom, 15 points in sente!
Dupaaxe [?\]: if not like to learn invent some ;)
F525 [15k\]: My reading skills never fail.
ogre [2d?\]: is b d11 stones really in any danger?
hadlar [5d?\]: ya KGS ranks back then were hardpwn
ogre [2d?\]: this loks hopeless for w
Wagaboo [10k\]: yeah
hadlar [5d?\]: a KGS 5k was like an AGA 1d
A1R [4k\]: save area for b now
Imvatim [?\]: is b saying i dare you to kill my group
strong10k [-\]: kgs 3k = aga 1d
NorthWind [5k\]: g4
hadlar [5d?\]: that's why back then 16k to 15k was something worthwhile
joej24 [15k\]: do you play at both hadlar? aga and kgs?
HKitty [3d?\]: KGS ranks these days are ridiculously weak, I hope they adjust them soon
hadlar [5d?\]: i ranked from 19k to 16k very fast, like within 2-3 weeks
mcc1: b +4.5
monfil: man a girl this strong at go is pretty intimidating lol... means they are more rational than men
SoDesuNe [4k\]: KGS 4K = 6-7k EGF (for me at least =))
Doukan [3k\]: thats why i feel like 1d ^_^
cuby [3k?\]: back then there were a billion people 10k-18k
hadlar [5d?\]: but then i got stuck at 16k for like 2 months
Cthulhug [10k\]: m13?
]
;W[lh]C[hadlar [5d?\]: and i'd play every day and lose all the time and was so depressed
HKitty [3d?\]: lol
A1R [4k\]: k7 for some potenial to get into b's center?
sheeryjay [2k\]: joej24, it's not because the community was smaller, it was deliberately made by server admin to bring kgs ranks more to aga/egf ones
hadlar [5d?\]: and finally got to 15k and it was happiest go day in my life
strong10k [-\]: honestly alot of people in AGA bs their ranks so you get a lot of weak 1d
eatramen [22k\]: haha hadlar 
cuby [3k?\]: and a lot of STRONG 5k
joej24 [15k\]: okay 
cuby [3k?\]: bs goes both ways
]
;B[fg]C[ogre [2d?\]: g12?
ogre [2d?\]: darn close
hadlar [5d?\]: ya i'm not registered with AGA
Joakim [13k\]: could come now
hadlar [5d?\]: i should be though
]
;W[ff]
;B[gh]
;W[eg]C[hadlar [5d?\]: since i live in america
joej24 [15k\]: why dont you register?
Eilinen [-\]: Kgs 1-3 dans = Finnish 1-3kyus
strong10k [-\]: the kids usually sandbags, and the adults featherbags
Joakim [13k\]: :)
]
;B[hg]C[Jax [10k\]: opponents seem stronger on IGS when compared to KGS. I know I'm only go up to 14k on IGS.
hadlar [5d?\]: maybe one day when i'm 7d i'll show up at go congress and be the first 7d to not know how to place a stone on a board properly
hadlar [5d?\]: that's my dream
Joakim [13k\]: lol
Jax [10k\]: good luck on your dream
joej24 [15k\]: Don't you jsut place it on?
Trivia [2k?\]: n00b
gooooo [10k\]: you can't be 7d if you haven't ever played in a tournament
nanok [?\]: the internet shodan generation :P
hadlar [5d?\]: haha
gooooo [10k\]: :D
strong10k [-\]: place in on the square instead of intersection
joej24 [15k\]: hahaha
gooooo [10k\]: sinc you wouldn't be able to participate as a 8d
gooooo [10k\]: 7d I mean
hadlar [5d?\]: i think i will never learn how to place the stone properly
Trivia [2k?\]: im so missing US congress right now; in my own back yard
Eilinen [-\]: : D
joej24 [15k\]: she looked at me:D
hadlar [5d?\]: hahahahaha
Daoloth [-\]: a1 is the correct move
HKitty [3d?\]: In Hikaru no go a left handed player played with his right hand, so he would look like a noob...
Bazilikan [2k\]: Daoloth must be a 10 dan
NorthWind [5k\]: take
hadlar [5d?\]: i may look like a n00b at that moment
epoxygal [3k\]: hi everyone
hadlar [5d?\]: but 7d n00b is fine with me
monfil: i think u r thinking a bit far ahead
epoxygal [3k\]: she is so bored she is thinking to go and do manicure
monfil: first u need 6d
hadlar [5d?\]: i'm only like 2-3 ranks away from 7d
hadlar [5d?\]: i'll get it in the next 3 years
Dupaaxe [?\]: hadlar ... I hope that you`re dream come true :)
Shibui [2d?\]: Distracting him with being girlish
Trivia [2k?\]: yu can get 1d at USGO if have internet credentials?
strong10k [-\]: before or after 2012?
hadlar [5d?\]: i do a lot of tsumego, so my reading is good enough
epoxygal [3k\]: she is girlish today. pink!!
ogre [2d?\]: eating here is looking like its regular
Trivia [2k?\]: oh wait you declare your own rank at USGO
Jax [10k\]: she is totally bored
eatramen [22k\]: expox!!!!!!
eatramen [22k\]: kyu power!
Katsuri [3k\]: how old is ali??
joej24 [15k\]: they look very young
lose100 [2k?\]: 16
Doukan [3k\]: old enough to be distracted by a girl 
Trivia [2k?\]: a lot of strong yound players lately
epoxygal [3k\]: hi my kyu brothers!
hadlar [5d?\]: i think ali is engaged right?
vannab [3k\]: hi
Bazilikan [2k\]: ...
Katsuri [3k\]: wow  hes cute ^^
joej24 [15k\]: whaaa? at 16?
bsaltman [3k\]: SE B+35.5
ogre [2d?\]: lol she make cute face for camera
epoxygal [3k\]: let's analyse the board, my kyu borthers
eatramen [22k\]: she's 20  joe ali idk
hadlar [5d?\]: haha
NorthWind [5k\]: W hoping to kill f11 ? seems unlikely
hadlar [5d?\]: she did make a cute face xD
fatihsulak [-\]: they both need a rest :)
hadlar [5d?\]: now she left the board
joej24 [15k\]: dangit we scared her away...
hadlar [5d?\]: and here comes ila
ILoveKang: go Kanggg
Antone [8k\]: who's the blond guy ?
Trivia [2k?\]: she should do some marketing like Dinerstein
ogre [2d?\]: thats ilia
hadlar [5d?\]: ilya can't bear to be around cute girl so he comes after she leaves xD
Doukan [3k\]: haha
Trivia [2k?\]: "buy 5 lessons get a free foto"
joej24 [15k\]: maybe she left because he came haha
epoxygal [3k\]: trivia, dinner is 9p marketing, kang not even near
epoxygal [3k\]: trivia.. wow, i like that!!
eatramen [22k\]: lmao'
ZothOmmog [4k\]: short shorts again?
hadlar [5d?\]: yep
Trivia [2k?\]: she'd be rakin' them in!
bolb [-\]: …
epoxygal [3k\]: ali is thinking, should i connect or should i eat
ZothOmmog [4k\]: both!
hadlar [5d?\]: has to take
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: dinerstein will be in the board of directors of www.EuroGoPro.or, just as Catalin and Guo Juan
hadlar [5d?\]: can't just defend, B will e12 then
epoxygal [3k\]: take black will counter atari
ogre [2d?\]: eat threatens ko cut
Trivia [2k?\]: if W eat then B connects in kko
strong10k [-\]: white really shouldnt play with go stones then touch his face
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: .org
Doukan [3k\]: ali is thinking, how long should i keep playing, or simply resign
joej24 [15k\]: eat it eat it
ogre [2d?\]: yeah 
epoxygal [3k\]: ali wants to keep the black stones weak, so he must take
epoxygal [3k\]: must eat those stones
blackstork [?\]: The w's play n this game follows the tren that younger strong dans usually run out of sleep towards the end of the tournament
hadlar [5d?\]: i don't get ali at all, he keeps staring off in random directions
hadlar [5d?\]: he should be reading
monfil: w can't continue after though
sesbes [2k?\]: Why would you want to resign early if you are playing against a cute girl?
epoxygal [3k\]: he is looking for kang cant live without her
hadlar [5d?\]: sesbes knows how it is
cuby [3k?\]: hadlar this is for you
cuby [3k?\]: http://cuby.us/misc/puffyface.png
strong10k [-\]: shes not that cute...
nhanh [1d\]: seems like there was a mistake in w fuseki
ogre [2d?\]: f12 e12 and if b does not connect w can eat ko and maybe its good for b
hadlar [5d?\]: :DDDDDDDDDDDD
Trivia [2k?\]: Ali looks funny
monfil: lol......
wysek [1k?\]: it's normal that 15k does not understand what is 6d thinking about...
epoxygal [3k\]: ali float like a butterfly... but doesnt sting
codelyoko [5d\]: lol cuby
hadlar [5d?\]: in this pic he's like all "NUUU what can i do... ugh... arg!"
Doukan [3k\]: cuby: graet catch!
NorthWind [5k\]: his body language says "loser"
ogre [2d?\]: its catalin
hadlar [5d?\]: and she's like "puuuuuuu <3"
ogre [2d?\]: he is big guy
cuby [3k?\]: :D
]
;W[fh]C[nhanh [1d\]: lol epo
epoxygal [3k\]: if black secures those stones, white is behind
grooviest [10k\]: great, about time too
]
;B[gf]C[ogre [2d?\]: i would not fistfight with catalin
epoxygal [3k\]: see... i predicted that. lol
AhSayuni [4d\]: e11?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: she is thinking 'wheres the party?'
]
;W[ei]C[epoxygal [3k\]: she is cute today... glasses no good for her
Imvatim [?\]: b thinking of attack l16 m12 groups?
AhSayuni [4d\]: maybe a chance?
]
;B[ie]C[nanotech [2k\]: what is w doing?
hadlar [5d?\]: lol wow
ZothOmmog [4k\]: coonect
Doukan [3k\]: glasess? you mean pop?
hadlar [5d?\]: can't believe black
Imvatim [?\]: seems so
epoxygal [3k\]: she wil try to cut off the M12 stones
strong10k [-\]: what
ogre [2d?\]: b want to attack l16\\
ogre [2d?\]: woah
ZothOmmog [4k\]: j14
hadlar [5d?\]: l16 hard to attack
ZothOmmog [4k\]: h14
hadlar [5d?\]: meanwhile w d12 here is hard
NorthWind [5k\]: c16
epoxygal [3k\]: thats a connection i was talking about just now
strong10k [-\]: black has a deathwish
ogre [2d?\]: what else can b want
epoxygal [3k\]: now white in trouble
NorthWind [5k\]: oops c10
ZothOmmog [4k\]: k18 maybe
hadlar [5d?\]: <_<
hadlar [5d?\]: black must've read out life already
epoxygal [3k\]: she looks like hello kitty
strong10k [-\]: ...
sesbes [2k?\]: White did better than I expected
Bazilikan [2k\]: ali is back!
AhSayuni [4d\]: question is if b's unconditionally dead on the said..
ogre [2d?\]: maybe if b attack m10 and if w saves l16 become dangerous
ZothOmmog [4k\]: e14 a theat
hadlar [5d?\]: better not be, or else it's like game over
sesbes [2k?\]: As long as the M12 group is safe this is not bad progress
AhSayuni [4d\]: d10 looks like sente for a cut with a ko
ogre [2d?\]: ok
hadlar [5d?\]: d10 looks bad
DanielTom [5d\]: j4 was really passive
ogre [2d?\]: of w play move to seal kill on d11 then b try to eat all inside
cuby [3k?\]: j4 really was
hadlar [5d?\]: d10 d12 e12 c10 b13 b12 
cuby [3k?\]: unkorean move
epoxygal [3k\]: oh no... she's swaying like ilya
ZothOmmog [4k\]: contagious
cuby [3k?\]: gah ilya sways like an alien is about to burst out of his chest
ogre [2d?\]: w should let b try to live 
epoxygal [3k\]: lol
badukboy [4k?\]: y is he thinking for so long
snes [-\]: if B left side is dead its really big
Jax [10k\]: wouldn't b12  makes life difficult
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i would f10
epoxygal [3k\]: white must worry about the M12 pls
joej24 [15k\]: what defines a "korean move" cuby?
craig [4k\]: w has so many good moves he can't decide
epoxygal [3k\]: i won't F10
swanized [-\]: mindless agression
ogre [2d?\]: i would k14 maybe
hadlar [5d?\]: f10 is gote
cuby [3k?\]: korean moves are characterized by fighting and aggressive play
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: or m14
joej24 [15k\]: ahh i see
epoxygal [3k\]: I would K13
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;W[og]C[strong10k [-\]: strong3k
epoxygal [3k\]: ah.. this is how ali takes care of M12
maze [5d\]: go Ali :P
cuby [3k?\]: and evil, insidious probes.  several times this competition kang has nailed some really nasty probes that some high dans have called "korean"
AhSayuni [4d\]: :)
just9x9 [-\]: didnt know the captain was korean...
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;B[kf]C[epoxygal [3k\]: go ali, float like a butterfly pls... look, kang has a butterfly hairpin
EuroGoTVca [-\]: no he is not
TomGo [1d?\]: and I would close the boy's bowl to prevent that noise he creates
EuroGoTVca [-\]: hes from vancouver
hadlar [5d?\]: if W d10, then d10 d12 e12 c10 b13 b12 c8 b14 a14 a12 a13 c13 a15 b8 b7 a9 and b alive
just9x9 [-\]: oh, how come he plays aggressive then?
just9x9 [-\]: :)
hadlar [5d?\]: it's almost like W needs c12
epoxygal [3k\]: i told him L13 is better but Mr. Ali plays P13.. P13 has no strength, it doesnt sting 
misha91 [2d\]: EuroGoTV, how is Artem's game?
epoxygal [3k\]: *k13
NorthWind [5k\]: r12
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry mischa91, he plays in another room
misha91 [2d\]: ok
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i will look later
misha91 [2d\]: thx
Cornelius [1d\]: and Thomas ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: too
Cornelius [1d\]: ok
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: only board 1 and 2 here
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;W[lf]C[hadlar [5d?\]: if w does d12, then d12 d10 e10 c12 c8 b10 b8 b14 b12 d13 c11 ko
strong10k [-\]: i dont see life for black
joej24 [15k\]: i wish they would use the traditional boards. That'd be so cool
epoxygal [3k\]: hey hey girl, u need to live on the right side u know?
hadlar [5d?\]: aah
altrecop [1k\]: hadlar
hadlar [5d?\]: W's tesuji move is b11
ogre [2d?\]: maybe w can go b8 instead of c8?
hadlar [5d?\]: if W does b11 from the beginning, then it's really hard since W has miai 
Karnesun [5d\]: Harry, when Artem finnish play can you write in chat result?
altrecop [1k\]: why did b sacrified d11 and d14, it seemed that group could live inside whites ladder
GoIsBoring [3d\]: we want w to win
Daoloth [-\]: very sad for w if b lives now
hadlar [5d?\]: no we want B to win
snes [-\]: yep
altrecop [1k\]: can you explain please?
epoxygal [3k\]: black win
grooviest [10k\]: geez, ali keeps yawning
strong10k [-\]: i hope white wins
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if other topboards finish i will try to update u guys
fatihsulak [-\]: if black lives on the right side, game over?
Shedal [2d\]: I want W to win
Shedal [2d\]: Let's vote
cuby [3k?\]: thanks euro!!!
GoIsBoring [3d\]: w is kgs star, b isn't
NorthWind [5k\]: dunno about win but nice if W were to fight more
Wagaboo [10k\]: m15 ?
sgjiehui [3d\]: ali is my friend
snes [-\]: strong girls should win, there are ot so many :P
epoxygal [3k\]: kang is my friend
Karnesun [5d\]: I support Ali in this game
strong10k [-\]: w kgs account?
fatihsulak [-\]: ali is also my friend but she is cute :)
poiu66 [3k\]: white win
hadlar [5d?\]: you ali bums are too bummy. we need a cute girl as champion
joej24 [15k\]: yup
hadlar [5d?\]: not some random n00b
ogre [2d?\]: maybe kang is weakened when she is ahead early
epoxygal [3k\]: we need cute girls pls
joej24 [15k\]: every wants to see her jump for joy after she wins
cuby [3k?\]: go has waited a long time since yukari sensei for cute strong girl
IstTengen [3k\]: i want a european as champ at egc
epoxygal [3k\]: guojuan is also cute
Shedal [2d\]: We need the strongest player as a champion, not some random citue
cuby [3k?\]: i <3 guo
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hadlar [5d?\]: B is staring at the c10 area
hadlar [5d?\]: so B is looking for the life seq
hadlar [5d?\]: i bet she'll find it
hadlar [5d?\]: it looks like it's possible to live there
vannab [3k\]: guojuan just joined
Wagaboo [10k\]: b can connect a the top no?
hadlar [5d?\]: i bet the move is d12
mcc1: b win
epoxygal [3k\]: hi guojuan, we were saying u r cute
epoxygal [3k\]: all my kyu brothers
cuby [3k?\]: guo juan best teacher on kgs!
hadlar [5d?\]: since if B d12 first then d12 e12 c10 c8 b11 that should be enough
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epoxygal [3k\]: B11 looks like a good point
mythical [1k\]: B left group sems to be the weakest
fatihsulak [-\]: d10 seems enough to me 
cuby [3k?\]: can someone explain why black let white split at e11?
ILoveKang: cuteness perempts all geographic considerations
Madzilla [5d?\]: W will jump at B13 to try to kill B
Jax [10k\]: Will b11 give black eyeshape. Also H15 keeps b connected
epoxygal [3k\]: d10 is sente
ogre [2d?\]: b let split e11 cause she want to win by too many points
hadlar [5d?\]: ok here is my final seq: d12 e12 c10 c8 b11 b13 b14 a14 b12 c13 d13 b9 c12 a13 a12 a14 b8 b7 a10 and B lives
strong10k [-\]: atari
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;B[ej]C[epoxygal [3k\]: i dont think black wil die there
]
;W[eh]
;B[dj]C[hadlar [5d?\]: noooo B does differently than my final seq!
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;W[fj]C[Imvatim [?\]: lol
epoxygal [3k\]: ilya always comes to see kang
]
;B[bf]C[Trivia [2k?\]: becuae you're so WEAK
nanok [?\]: the fight is on
hadlar [5d?\]: cause ilya kearts for kang
fatihsulak [-\]: hmm isnt e10 eliminates the black sente move at d12?
hadlar [5d?\]: cause kang is so awesome
Madzilla [5d?\]: ... see, you have to prevent W B13
epoxygal [3k\]: kang is awesome. yes.
ogre [2d?\]: cause ilya wants to win and he is the only one who beated kang
snes [-\]: will she live with 8 points?
ILoveKang: kang is out of ilia's league
Trivia [2k?\]: why no glasses today?
hadlar [5d?\]: kang is totally out of ilia's league
hadlar [5d?\]: no where near her league
nanok [?\]: that's ilia?
cuby [3k?\]: ilya killer her
cuby [3k?\]: killed
NorthWind [5k\]: can't find them ?
hadlar [5d?\]: ilya lost to ker
hadlar [5d?\]: her*
eatramen [22k\]: didnt kill
cuby [3k?\]: ilya won
Bazilikan [2k\]: next move?
sgjiehui [3d\]: illia won
snes [-\]: Ilya won with 6 groups
Jax [10k\]: It's all over for w if that group lives
epoxygal [3k\]: B11
cuby [3k?\]: 6 groups, that's rite
hadlar [5d?\]: wait, didn't the main page say he lost?
cuby [3k?\]: that game was EPIC
snes [-\]: don't think so
ILoveKang: he also tried to infect her with his germs
ogre [2d?\]: ilia beated her
sgjiehui [3d\]: ya
Chascal [9k\]: he lost to Artem
snes [-\]: she tried to kill him everywhere but couldn't
cherisse [1k\]: hehe
hadlar [5d?\]: oh, meh she's still awesome
sgjiehui [3d\]: lol
eatramen [22k\]: yeah he did so its anyones tourney kinda, though i want kang to win
ogre [2d?\]: she beated artem tho
engelchen [1d\]: ilya lost to artem, moron
mythical [1k\]: situation calls for invasion on bottom or right side
Shedal [2d\]: Ilia and Artem are the best. Artem actually was winning the game with Kang. It was unlucky that his group died in the end.
cuby [3k?\]: oh snap he called u a moron
DiPerson [9k\]: c8
ogre [2d?\]: kang is leading by the sos points
ogre [2d?\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-results.txt
epoxygal [3k\]: artem lost to kang, kang lost to ilya, ilya lost to artem
cherisse [1k\]: lol
snes [-\]: not transitive enough
noemotions [1k\]: what's SOS?
ogre [2d?\]: look on tha page
eatramen [22k\]: kang is known for comebacks so dont let leads fool you
cuby [3k?\]: lol what does it say on her shorts??
Doukan [3k\]: call for help 
NorthWind [5k\]: Sum of Opponent Scores
noemotions [1k\]: thx
IceSpectre [4k\]: what is sos point ? 
epoxygal [3k\]: Sum? Jasiek?
cuby [3k?\]: EuroGo it may seem inappropriate but do her fans a favor, tell us what it says on her shorts :D
sgjiehui [3d\]: ...
NorthWind [5k\]: it's a tie-breaker thing
fatihsulak [-\]: b9 would be funny :)
Maki1 [2k\]: would you like someone to check her underwear too, cuby?
hadlar [5d?\]: yes
joej24 [15k\]: hahah
cuby [3k?\]: are you offering?
Maki1 [2k\]: no, I know what shes wearing and its a secret
NorthWind [5k\]: it says "cuby, call me"
eatramen [22k\]: victoria secret?
bolb [-\]: please
cuby [3k?\]: she stole hadlar's underwear?  
hadlar [5d?\]: lol ya we migh've gone a little too far
hadlar [5d?\]: wait what?
hadlar [5d?\]: <_<
eatramen [22k\]: ok underwear thing too much now, we're here for the GO
hadlar [5d?\]: ya
Maki1 [2k\]: sips Zhuyeqing tea...
Vovka27 [3k\]: b12 :)
cuby [3k?\]: aww we've been really well behaved
NorthWind [5k\]: c8
cherisse [1k\]: who is ali? he suddenly came out of nowhere and now in board 1
hadlar [5d?\]: see
hadlar [5d?\]: he keeps staring off into space
Shedal [2d\]: Her underwear sais on the back: owned by Ilia Shikshin.
Shedal [2d\]: (sorry)
M4TTY [1k\]: c12?
hadlar [5d?\]: stop talking about that, if mod starts bolding, we can't talk off topic anymore!
ogre [2d?\]: there is a damezumari on w 
AhSayuni [4d\]: c12 fails
ogre [2d?\]: maybe that helps b live
hadlar [5d?\]: until then, we at least can have a little fun
sesbes [1k?\]: B10 ? with B12 C13 ideas any possibility?
cherisse [1k\]: uizado is sleeping!
adiida [3k\]: i'd c13
hadlar [5d?\]: b9 snags come stones
Q161 [?\]: ali looks so tired/bored lol
grooviest [10k\]: w c13
Q161 [?\]: wake up ali!
sgjiehui [3d\]: black lives
Q161 [?\]: you have to win!
Imvatim [?\]: what's kang doing now? is she bored again
ogre [2d?\]: w cant push inward
adiida [3k\]: maybe white can cut off d10 in sente
hadlar [5d?\]: uizado is sleeping, but bolbi is still here
Wagaboo [10k\]: w must resign
ogre [2d?\]: c12 d12 d13 c13 b12 e14 
cuby [3k?\]: c13
hadlar [5d?\]: lurking in the shadows waiting to pounce like a beast in the darknes
eatramen [22k\]: a damezumari?.....
cuby [3k?\]: cmon ali keep this one going!
hadlar [5d?\]: no! it has to be kang
Vovka27 [3k\]: wb12  wa12  wb9 combo not work?
hadlar [5d?\]: kang too good not to win
ogre [2d?\]: well kinda except w can eat f11 but
hadlar [5d?\]: ali is too n00b, kang is too cute. cute > n00b
yamashitaK [5d\]: too cute not to win you mean 
snes [-\]: if she lives it's over I think
DanielTom [5d\]: Ilya is watching this game too
sgjiehui [3d\]: c12d12d13e14
epoxygal [3k\]: too cute
ILoveKang: there is roln again
sgjiehui [3d\]: ko
codelyoko [5d\]: ali isn't noob ..
grooviest [10k\]: w b13 a14 b9
ILoveKang: get a restraining order
epoxygal [3k\]: ilya giving tips to ali
hadlar [5d?\]: ali is so n00b
hadlar [5d?\]: i bet i can beat ali in blitz
cuby [3k?\]: ilya not having much trouble in his own game
NorthWind [5k\]: he's trying to get some ideas
codelyoko [5d\]: --'
yamashitaK [5d\]: hadlar you are noob
hadlar [5d?\]: lol
yamashitaK [5d\]: ali is strong
hadlar [5d?\]: nah
Maki1 [2k\]: Ilya tells Ali he better win, or else...
Shedal [2d\]: Ali is good. He even beat Artem once
cuby [3k?\]: ali is incredible, he's gonna be great
hadlar [5d?\]: normally ali is alright
hadlar [5d?\]: i don't have anything against him
hadlar [5d?\]: but today
hadlar [5d?\]: he's n00b
hadlar [5d?\]: cause kang is black
Doukan [3k\]: where is ali from?
cuby [3k?\]: israel
strong10k [-\]: what is ali's kgs account?
sgjiehui [3d\]: Israel
eatramen [22k\]: beating someone once doesnt count for much
grooviest [10k\]: ali looks semitic
sesbes [1k?\]: what is n00b?
Q161 [?\]: hadlar
Madzilla [5d?\]: Ali's at where Ilya was 2-3 years ago, very promising but a long way to go
Shedal [2d\]: it's n-zero-zero-b
badukboy [4k?\]: why is he thinking so much
badukboy [4k?\]: it's been 20mins
snes [-\]: he has to kill
epoxygal [3k\]: B11 is the move, my kyu brothers
ExplO [2d\]: Ali is OohAah here, strong10k
hadlar [5d?\]: wait
sesbes [1k?\]: n-zero-zero-b? 
hadlar [5d?\]: oohaah is ali?
happydog [7k\]: Every time somebody asks "what is noob" I start hearing Haddaway's "what is love"... baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me no more. :-/
Danielsan [2k\]: c13 and c14  captures f14 and connects?
hadlar [5d?\]: i thought dani was ali
Daoloth [-\]: c12 if i'd have to make a quick guess
codelyoko [5d\]: lol
badukboy [4k?\]: black gotta win
snes [-\]: maybe she can sacrifice something but live anyway
Maki1 [2k\]: OoAah is quite powerful
hadlar [5d?\]: hmm
codelyoko [5d\]: dani is a noob
hadlar [5d?\]: yes
hadlar [5d?\]: dani is n00b
yamashitaK [5d\]: eurogo, how much time left for the players ? 
hadlar [5d?\]: ok, ali not so bad
hadlar [5d?\]: but still
codelyoko [5d\]: it's true that if you thought that ali was dani , he is a noob
hadlar [5d?\]: n00b compared to kang
epoxygal [3k\]: kang has beauty and brains
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;W[hf]C[hadlar [5d?\]: kang
eatramen [22k\]: yamas they have a lot of time left
eatramen [22k\]: ALOT
hadlar [5d?\]: comes back with a yellow cape on
ogre [2d?\]: oh 
altrecop [1k\]: lol
ogre [2d?\]: dangit
hadlar [5d?\]: because she's awesomer than a red cape
cuby [3k?\]: wish they hadn't played so fast
altrecop [1k\]: doesn't d12 kills ?
epoxygal [3k\]: why is she wearing hello kitty hairpin?
badukboy [4k?\]: what's that useless move all of sudden
ogre [2d?\]: is that hello kitty?
ogre [2d?\]: i like hello kitty
Danielsan [2k\]: how does d12 kill?
ogre [2d?\]: mmm
epoxygal [3k\]: looks like kitty
Maki1 [2k\]: mmm, adore Hello Kitty
Mage [1k\]: stream
altrecop [1k\]: d12 instead of h14 for w
hadlar [5d?\]: ooooh
altrecop [1k\]: kills side i think
cuby [3k?\]: h14 locally sente
hadlar [5d?\]: now i finally know why he keeps staring off in random directions
fekand3 [1d\]: h15
Maki1 [2k\]: I have a Hello Kitty keyring for my motorbike
joej24 [15k\]: why hadlar?
Mage [1k\]: stream please
hadlar [5d?\]: he cannot look forward because of the super cuteness in front of him
hadlar [5d?\]: it would burn his eyes
Sven84 [3k\]: lol
joej24 [15k\]: haha
joej24 [15k\]: well she keeps walking off too
ogre [2d?\]: she should make that earlier face at him
joej24 [15k\]: i wonder why...
gabigo [4k?\]: ilia still sick?
cuby [3k?\]: someone get ilya some robitussin
ogre [2d?\]: eventually he will look and be destroyed
Maki1 [2k\]: to distract him with her shorts
hadlar [5d?\]: short-shortssuji
cherisse [1k\]: lol
cuby [3k?\]: hahah
Maki1 [2k\]: someone connect Ilya to a respirator
Mage [1k\]: stream please
Danielsan [2k\]: w d12 c12 c13 d13 c11 e14 b12 f13
Doukan [3k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
hadlar [5d?\]: ya ilya looks weak and pale
altrecop [1k\]: hey people, go search girls to google
Mage [1k\]: thx
Bazilikan [2k\]: i do belive h14 is kikashi
cuby [3k?\]: doesn't that sum up go tourneys?  there's always an oily-haired skinny boy coughing
Shedal [2d\]: Well, shortsuji only works if Ali has boobzumari
epoxygal [3k\]: why people like to torture themselves with Go?
sesbes [1k?\]: It slows down Alzheimers
mythical [1k\]: good question
Maki1 [2k\]: Kang is shaking her head
nanok [?\]: because the inquisition is long gone, so we do our best on our own, now
hadlar [5d?\]: cause at a certain point you've invested too much not to continue
Doukan [3k\]: considering your being 3k, the same as for you epoxygal
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;B[le]C[hadlar [5d?\]: that point is around 3d
Imvatim [?\]: shaking her head as in bad?
Maki1 [2k\]: yes
hadlar [5d?\]: lesson of the day for kyus: quit now, you don't want to be 1d. it's overrated
MrTortoise [5k\]: wasnt expecting that
Maki1 [2k\]: 1d is terrible
epoxygal [3k\]: torture yourself to death to be dan
Bulbasaur [4k\]: Ali just tied his shoelace
joej24 [15k\]: well im loviingg 15 k:D
hadlar [5d?\]: yes
hadlar [5d?\]: 15k was happier times
Loons [3k\]: But it's like picking a scab, you can't help yourself
Maki1 [2k\]: better to skip 1d and get 2d straight away
mythical [1k\]: i do wanna be 1d  :)
nhanh [1d\]: I like epoxygal's comments
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hadlar [5d?\]: epoxygal?
epoxygal [3k\]: thank you nhanh
hadlar [5d?\]: is she a chemist?
Jax [10k\]: L15
Q161 [?\]: isnt w behind by a lot?
cherisse [1k\]: i'm fine being a strong kyu
hadlar [5d?\]: chemisty girls are hot
bolbi [-\]: enough
nhanh [1d\]: really?
Jax [10k\]: L15
ogre [2d?\]: she does those big fingernail things
eatramen [22k\]: epox is the biggest kyu supporter here
epoxygal [3k\]: our kyu brothers are all cool
eatramen [22k\]: !!!!!!!!!!!!
hadlar [5d?\]: nuuuu, bold of death
epoxygal [3k\]: yes
joej24 [15k\]: hehe
epoxygal [3k\]: will ali cut?
Shedal [2d\]:                                             Let's focus on the game please!
joej24 [15k\]: no he shall eat
Imvatim [?\]: what's wrong with j14?
Wagaboo [10k\]: to cut cut cut
ogre [2d?\]: whos that guy in the back
cherisse [1k\]: greetings, fellow kyulings
epoxygal [3k\]: he eat which stones? he cant eat coz kang will eat the M12 stones
Maki1 [2k\]: ali needs to care for his M10 group
Dupaaxe [?\]: Nu ? Where are you from Hadlar ?
mythical [1k\]: does he thinks about k 14?
epoxygal [3k\]: greeting my kyu brother cherisse
hadlar [5d?\]: i'm from the magical kingdom of zeal
hadlar [5d?\]: circa 12,000BC
cuby [3k?\]: the floating island
Q161 [?\]: isnt w behind by too much?
Q161 [?\]: how can he catch up?
ogre [2d?\]: i dont know what b is doing
Vovka27 [3k\]: cut looks dangerous....
epoxygal [3k\]: can white L13 first?
Dupaaxe [?\]: :)
hadlar [5d?\]: ;P
Trivia [2k?\]: W hoped to cut but it's not working
snes [-\]: if she managed to live all looks like
Dupaaxe [?\]: Nu look like not in my language :)
ogre [2d?\]: w hoped to cut?
epoxygal [3k\]: cannot cut
ogre [2d?\]: i thought w just wanted to avoid a ko when trying to kill b
freemind [1d\]: lemuria
epoxygal [3k\]: counter atari at M13
Eilinen [-\]: Hmm..
hadlar [5d?\]: lemuria's got nothing against zeal
nanok [?\]: hadlar: got used to computers quickly, eh? 
hadlar [5d?\]: yep
ogre [2d?\]: so threaten to do something and end up ready to kill
freemind [1d\]: :P
cuby [3k?\]: Nu's can help you change your name.  i bet hadlar knows this
freemind [1d\]: mu
epoxygal [3k\]: bur H11 stones not too much to give up though
hadlar [5d?\]: yes
ogre [2d?\]: w is counterattack on l16 but i never imagined this is possible
F525 [15k\]: Nu's what?
hadlar [5d?\]: and they built the epoch
freemind [1d\]: not u...Mu
eatramen [22k\]: mew 2?
freemind [1d\]: nu*......Mu
F525 [15k\]: Yeah, but nu's what?
F525 [15k\]: And what's a nu?
cuby [3k?\]: kang really does seem bored with fuseki.  she buckles down later on
freemind [1d\]: nothig
hadlar [5d?\]: nu means nothingness
hadlar [5d?\]: emptyness
F525 [15k\]: I thought it was mu.
hadlar [5d?\]: perfect for me
nanok [?\]: nu oculd be no
F525 [15k\]: Or are we suddenly using Chinese terms?
nanok [?\]: or it could be "typo"
hadlar [5d?\]: mu means darkness/evil
freemind [1d\]: somethig mork said
nhanh [1d\]: it's ma, not nu
hadlar [5d?\]: ma is demon/magic
Antone [8k\]: what language ?
epoxygal [3k\]: nu = cow
freemind [1d\]: na u na u
bolbi [-\]: focus on the game please
just9x9 [-\]: thx bolbi
epoxygal [3k\]: guys, focus pls
freemind [1d\]: ok
Danielsan [2k\]: looks like if w tries to keep l15 m14 connection, m10 gets hurt
nhanh [1d\]: hadlar wants to be kicked out
hadlar [5d?\]: no
cuby [3k?\]: bolbi just made me lose the game :(
freemind [1d\]: o
hadlar [5d?\]: LOL
joej24 [15k\]: bolbi?
epoxygal [3k\]: bolbi brown... 
Dupaaxe [?\]: focus with such a girl around ?  ooo
epoxygal [3k\]: L13 doesnt look bad for me as a 3kyu, what do u think?
F525 [15k\]: There's a girl around?
ogre [2d?\]: maybe this is for ko threats
sgjiehui [3d\]: ali so slow
ogre [2d?\]: b will play ko threats here  after l15
hadlar [5d?\]: ya, ali takes so much time
freemind [1d\]: the game too fast
freemind [1d\]: :P
just9x9 [-\]: n14 steady better then?
mcc: b win 4.5
ILoveKang: is there a chance that Kang will play alex?
hadlar [5d?\]: taking a long time to think is bad since you don't play as natural
freemind [1d\]: lol
hadlar [5d?\]: kang has the best strategy, she will find the natural seq in the moment
freemind [1d\]: um,,,,ok
epoxygal [3k\]: kang beat alex
holynec [?\]: IS SHE EATING ICE CREAM?!
A1R [4k\]: ice-time
freemind [1d\]: cough*sure
nhanh [1d\]: natural does not means good
ogre [2d?\]: unless w doesnt want ko and goes g15 instead
Shibui [2d?\]: oh, icecream. that is a nice gesture.
epoxygal [3k\]: OMG!!!
hadlar [5d?\]: it does when you're ahead like kang is
Jax [10k\]: J16 will keep b separated
hadlar [5d?\]: this game is really over
epoxygal [3k\]: she licking the icecream?
nhanh [1d\]: but it's ali who takes time
freemind [1d\]: yeah..not,if,,oes,,,natural state is to suck
ogre [2d?\]: b can make eyes tho
epoxygal [3k\]: ali is in trouble
hadlar [5d?\]: i mean black has lived on left and center and top
Danielsan [2k\]: g15 w doesn't have time to kill b right side?
hadlar [5d?\]: all of W's areas in fuseki
freemind [1d\]: hm
hadlar [5d?\]: and what has w done to B's areas?
cuby [3k?\]: got it!  her shorts says "rolling stone".  awesome
cherisse [1k\]: lol the round with the ice cream
hadlar [5d?\]: given B strength facing that area with l7
ogre [2d?\]: l15 f13 g15 g13 e14 is miai for w to kill one or the other?
ILoveKang: w is going to have to kill something
sheeryjay [2k\]: eating ice cream is forbidden by rules ...
grooviest [10k\]: m15 is an interesting move
epoxygal [3k\]: white always is afraid of getting M12 cut
grooviest [10k\]: yeah, so w m13 then?
hadlar [5d?\]: ya W has to kill something
Jax [10k\]: Well if he's extremely good at yose he can prevent himself from losing too badly.
hadlar [5d?\]: or else it's done deal
holynec [?\]: o.o
grooviest [10k\]: cuz b l15 is gote?
epoxygal [3k\]: M13 is too slow though... moves gotta pinch the opponet. pinch pinch pinch
epoxygal [3k\]: so which moves protects the cut and pinches her?
holynec [?\]: ali is having a stressful time hmm
Jax [10k\]: Q10 or Q13
grooviest [10k\]: w m13 then w q10 next move
hadlar [5d?\]: ya
hadlar [5d?\]: 1 glance at the board and it's obvioua
sheeryjay [2k\]: EuroGoTV1, why are you transcribers so far from boards? I am really admiring that you are able to see stones positions accurately from that far
markpi: yeah his ice is melting while he thinks..
epoxygal [3k\]: when i met ali in korea, he is always that stressed all the time
AhSayuni [4d\]: obvioua indeed
grooviest [10k\]: epoxygal, i don't think there is one, well i can't see one :)
Trivia [2k?\]: N14
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;W[ig]C[epoxygal [3k\]: yea!
goIngo [?\]: ManyFaces (bot ) gives 55 % to White here.
]
;B[fg]C[epoxygal [3k\]: pnches
joej24 [15k\]: woooo fight!!
ogre [2d?\]: ok so its the ko way
epoxygal [3k\]: *pinches
Maki1 [2k\]: then b must be winning
grooviest [10k\]: ah good, ko - first aggressive move from w nearly
AhSayuni [4d\]: ho?
ogre [2d?\]: b got ko threats with m15
]
;W[ge]C[Trivia [2k?\]: ManyFaces is like, 7k now?
cuby [3k?\]: proof for hadlar http://cuby.us/misc/rollingstone.png
mcc: ali come back
hadlar [5d?\]: wow ali
goIngo [?\]: ManyFaces is like 1-dan
hadlar [5d?\]: can you be ANY more chicken
cherisse [1k\]: ooo b losing the center
hadlar [5d?\]: ali has submited the entire game
epoxygal [3k\]: black forgot F11 is in atari
joej24 [15k\]: I think ali got this
ogre [2d?\]: this is nice
holynec [?\]: wow cuby :o
hadlar [5d?\]: every chance he submits
Daoloth [-\]: as if aggression were the goal of this game
cuby [3k?\]: was driving my OCD brain nuts not knowing what it said :P
Jax [10k\]: preventing eyes and going for the kill
Shibui [2d?\]: MFOG like 1Dan? 1dan KGS or 1 dan Korean?
]
;B[lg]C[ogre [2d?\]: b has one eye in middle part
epoxygal [3k\]: see, my kyu brothers, J13 is the move because it pinches black and connects the M10 stones....
epoxygal [3k\]: we kyus must learn moves like this
Trivia [2k?\]: W cna have the middle and Bwill take the top
]
;W[mf]C[ogre [2d?\]: suddnly b seems menacing strength
ogre [2d?\]: i mean w
holynec [?\]: ali ali ali!
epoxygal [3k\]: white has advantage now
eatramen [22k\]: kang loves being behind =)
mcc: i still support b
eatramen [22k\]: then wins later
AhSayuni [4d\]: I'd still be worried as w
mcc: b win 4.5
AhSayuni [4d\]: though capturing the 2 stones means the left can be killed, doesn't it?
Maki1 [2k\]: somehow Kang did not manage to keep it simple
BobDole123 [1k\]: lol
ogre [2d?\]: i thought so 
Jax [10k\]: she seems more interested in the game now
cuby [3k?\]: she buckles down
grooviest [10k\]: j13 was a classy move
joej24 [15k\]: huh that ice ceram went down quick
epoxygal [3k\]: J13 is really good move
NorthWind [5k\]: yeah W battling for half a dozen points  in the middle but way behind on cash
grooviest [10k\]: w should b9 or b13
grooviest [10k\]: test the water
epoxygal [3k\]: B11 is the move
AhSayuni [4d\]: you both seems very confident...
epoxygal [3k\]: we are kyus, of course we are confient
cuby [3k?\]: any non-n00bs willing to comment on game?
eatramen [22k\]: epox isnt a noob'
NorthWind [5k\]: lol gal
ogre [2d?\]: b9 lets w block off the left side in sente but it makes b alive
grooviest [10k\]: we kyus don't know what we don't know, hence the confidence
Daoloth [-\]: b should live on the left by now, but w can reduce
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;B[ch]C[Maki1 [2k\]: tenuki....
Daoloth [-\]: oh, a safety move
epoxygal [3k\]: see? she gotta protect against B11
BobDole123 [1k\]: so behind..
epoxygal [3k\]: i said that right?
ogre [2d?\]: b gave up middle
Maki1 [2k\]: wow
cherisse [1k\]: the dans are surprised with our kyuness
AhSayuni [4d\]: which middle?
Fredegas [4d\]: w is good
Jax [10k\]: Doesn't black have to j16 to not lose all of the center
epoxygal [3k\]: they cant resist our kyu-ness 
fatihsulak [-\]: wow very difficult for black now
eatramen [22k\]: well said grooviest
Shedal [2d\]: J16 now?
strong10k [-\]: funny how 30 moves ago some 5d said white has no chance
Fredegas [4d\]: black is gonna have troubles
fatihsulak [-\]: just g13 
joej24 [15k\]: hmmm i wonder who that was hahah
hadlar [5d?\]: see kang is smart, she plays aggressive all game and then plays 1 solid move to secure win
snes [-\]: she thinks W could kill?
Fredegas [4d\]: not so much cash as you think
hadlar [5d?\]: she probably counted already
Daoloth [-\]: changes make go interesting
epoxygal [3k\]: B11 kills it snes
Thony15 [11k\]: Ralla .
grooviest [10k\]: w j12?
cuby [3k?\]: D2 and Q2 ready to do some damage
epoxygal [3k\]: ok guys, lets make a count
strong10k [-\]: game still close enough
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;W[cl]
;B[bk]C[IceSpectre [4k\]: g4 :)
Jax [10k\]: Q10
epoxygal [3k\]: black has about 60+ points
NorthWind [5k\]: ah SE says it's close ..lol
Maki1 [2k\]: w is ahead according to SE!
snes [-\]: nt so sure it kills, but ok
sesbes [1k?\]: Is it time to play f2 now?
]
;W[pg]
;B[qg]C[epoxygal [3k\]: white has about 60 points.
epoxygal [3k\]: WOW, quite even still
Shedal [2d\]: R14
]
;W[qh]
;B[qf]C[IceSpectre [4k\]: for me it looks like b leads 
AhSayuni [4d\]: s12?
yamashitaK [5d\]: f2
]
;W[fr]
;B[gr]
;W[eq]C[BobDole123 [1k\]: lol
yamashitaK [5d\]: ha
cherisse [1k\]: k18 biggy
Shedal [2d\]: wouldn't W R14 be better than R12?
epoxygal [3k\]: pretty even... now it boils down to how much Black canget circa K6 area
Maki1 [2k\]: ooohhh ahhhhhh
epoxygal [3k\]: and how much white can eat in the center
ILoveKang: where do they sell zhuyequing tea?
NorthWind [5k\]: W has about 30 reliable
goIngo [?\]: after move119 manyfaces estimated 59% for white
]
;B[gp]
;W[gs]
;B[hs]
;W[fs]
;B[hr]C[yamashitaK [5d\]: s12
BobDole123 [1k\]: now s12?
AhSayuni [4d\]: k8 big now
Shedal [2d\]: yose started :)
AhSayuni [4d\]: but so is s12
Jax [10k\]: w better at yose I think
hadlar [5d?\]: no
sesbes [1k?\]: After the slow beginning white improved a lot
hadlar [5d?\]: lol
BobDole123 [1k\]: just depends on who has sente
Maki1 [2k\]: SE went nuts
A1R [4k\]: l18
fatihsulak [-\]: q11 or s12 which is better
epoxygal [3k\]: black has the burden of komi, like her gme with ilya that day
yamashitaK [5d\]: s12
Shedal [2d\]: LOL at SE :)
Daoloth [-\]: p18 big for both
ogre [2d?\]: s12 q12 q11 q10 p12 s13 
BobDole123 [1k\]: s 12 in sente?
yamashitaK [5d\]: yep p18 next big point after s12
epoxygal [3k\]: SE is Ali's fan, dont u know?
ogre [2d?\]: s12 is gote if b does not block at s13
A1R [4k\]: L18
sesbes [1k?\]: what about the monkey jump from b9?
arbas [3k\]: o2 is too soon?
epoxygal [3k\]: i think ali will win this game despite kang's kyuness.. i mean cuteness
sesbes [1k?\]: isn't that big?
grooviest [10k\]: see you epoxygal, fight the good fight for us kyus :)
epoxygal [3k\]: see u groov
grooviest [10k\]: :)
epoxygal [3k\]: my kyu brother
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: is it time for O2?
grooviest [10k\]: don't forget me when you get to 1d
grooviest [10k\]: bye!
epoxygal [3k\]: i wont get to 1d.
hadlar [5d?\]: kyu forever
hadlar [5d?\]: i like that
eatramen [22k\]: lol\\
ogre [2d?\]: o2 p1
goIngo [?\]: manyfaces estimate after 127:  61 % for white
NorthWind [5k\]: I have B +39
joej24 [15k\]: ill stay at 15 forever hahahah
Shedal [2d\]: I count B+12
epoxygal [3k\]: lol
ogre [2d?\]: oh hell
mihi [6d\]: J14
ogre [2d?\]: no
cherisse [1k\]: ali beating kang kinda surprises me more than artem beating allia
ogre [2d?\]: oh eya
bdbdbd: how do i rewind moves? the button is greyed out
epoxygal [3k\]: no, black wont have enuf
hadlar [5d?\]: ya W has to j14
bolbi [-\]: options >> view offline
strong10k [-\]: artem almost pro level now
hadlar [5d?\]: no
Madzilla [5d?\]: no
hadlar [5d?\]: artem still long way to go
strong10k [-\]: his elo almost 1p
hadlar [5d?\]: even bbw isn't pro level yet, and he's 9d and way stronger than artem
bdbdbd: thanks but no such option in options, bolbi
holynec [?\]: alright holynec goes to sleep. Go oooahh!
Shedal [2d\]: Artem is very strong. Almost a pro
Maki1 [2k\]: BBW is pro level
Jax [10k\]: g13 seemed slow. wouldn't have a move like n18 been better 
hadlar [5d?\]: the top amas in asia are too strong for either bbw or artem
A1R [4k\]: bbw no pro lvl?
Madzilla [5d?\]: maybe a european pro :P
bolbi [-\]: bdbd : use the client, not the aplet
bolbi [-\]: applet
whatisgo [2d\]: elo means nothing , to become a pro you already must have 5 p level
strong10k [-\]: bbw beat himountain, and himountain is pro
IstTengen [3k\]: bdbdbd, duplicate game in...
ogre [2d?\]: b cant p1 o2
eatramen [22k\]:  wh is BBW?
gabigo [4k?\]: there is no such thing as european pro
BobDole123 [1k\]: these games are always amazing
eatramen [22k\]: *who
BobDole123 [1k\]: lol
RiT [5d\]: option -> clone game in
bdbdbd: oh ok, cheers
mihi [6d\]: O2,S12 very big for white
epoxygal [3k\]: BBW is strong!!!
Maki1 [2k\]: to become a pro you must be 1p level
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
eatramen [22k\]: epox who is bbw?
hadlar [5d?\]: it doesn't matter if bbw beats a few pros, he isn't pro level cause he can't defeat the top amas in asia, and it's those top amas he'd have to defeat in the pro exam
Madzilla [5d?\]: ... and I mean european pro in the sense that you get beaten by amateurs on a regular basis
epoxygal [3k\]: big bad wolf
ogre [2d?\]: o2 p1 p3 o3 p4 p5 o4 n4 o5 o6 n5 m5 n3 and b is in atari
Shedal [2d\]: who is big bad wolf? Ali?
MildPeril [1d\]: J16 not small either.. but p18 huge and sente
Swifft [3d\]: what about k15?
IstTengen [3k\]: andy liu is bbw iirc
epoxygal [3k\]: andy liu
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;W[ob]C[hadlar [5d?\]: now-a-days beating a few pros and being ama isn't anything special. the real victory is to defeat the top amas since they are the ones who you have to beat to be pro
strong10k [-\]: well im sure he won't be lee sedol, but bbw could play at 1p level
Trumelunki [4d\]: The asian pros also lose to strongest amateurs quite often
bdbdbd: hmm but i cannot see any comments then IstTengen? what do i do wrong
epoxygal [3k\]: american chinese
epoxygal [3k\]: very strong
hadlar [5d?\]: ya, asian strongest amas are super strong, many comparable to 5p
epoxygal [3k\]: P18 is huge!
sheeryjay [2k\]: hadlar, depends on country where he would try to become a pro, perhaps in Japan or Taiwan it would be somewhat easier than in Korea
mihi [6d\]: after this S12 and O2 
yamashitaK [5d\]: o2 p2
Madzilla [5d?\]: still, the european pros are among the weakest pros in the world
epoxygal [3k\]: S12 is also very big
Jax [10k\]: is N18 still possible?
hadlar [5d?\]: that's true sheer, but if you do it in korea, you make the biggest statement
epoxygal [3k\]: i think ali can win
hadlar [5d?\]: euro pros aren't even real pros
bananas [1k\]: that is very admirable - even a strong amateur cannot live from it i gues
NorthWind [5k\]: Ali has a sharp haircut. nice
IstTengen [3k\]: look at the moves there and the comments here. :) or view offline with the real client
hadlar [5d?\]: they are honorary pros
bananas [1k\]: and they put tons of time in it
]
;B[pi]C[epoxygal [3k\]: honorary pros can be great marketing people
Madzilla [5d?\]: Catalin qualified in the normal way
BobDole123 [1k\]: really now.
eatramen [22k\]: i dont think its harder to become pro in korea than japan
hadlar [5d?\]: someone like din could never handle the top asian amas
ogre [2d?\]: good.
yamashitaK [5d\]: p2
mihi [6d\]: J14 now..
Maki1 [2k\]: I think the cut off for becoming a pro is 15 years old in China. In that case you can reach pro ;eve; when you are older but you can never become a pro, simply because you are too old
ogre [2d?\]: block p18 is so backward
yamashitaK [5d\]: *p1*
hadlar [5d?\]: he got defeated by 20 year old former insei, just imagine the difference in levels between top amas and kang
eatramen [22k\]: hadlar din did get certification in korea though
BobDole123 [1k\]: r18?
ogre [2d?\]: no p1 yamashita
epoxygal [3k\]: black P18 is like 3kyus will play
ogre [2d?\]: o2 p1 p3 
epoxygal [3k\]: *Q18
pinpingho [-\]: it's 18 for male  and 20 for female maki
yamashitaK [5d\]: p3 not working
cuby [3k?\]: why is there even an age cutoff
Maki1 [2k\]: thx, is it 15 in Korea?
NorthWind [5k\]: lol, too old at 15
goIngo [?\]: manyfaces aftet 129: 62 % for white
pinpingho [-\]: and they have a under 25 group this year
hadlar [5d?\]: this is why i say bbw isn't strong enough. he is a strong ama, but he just isn't up to the challenge of defeating the top asian amas
ogre [2d?\]: o2 p1 p3 o3 p4 p5 o4 n4 o5 o6 n5 m5 n3 atari on n4
Trumelunki [4d\]: now j14 then?
hadlar [5d?\]: he needs to train in korea to get the eye of the tiger
strong10k [-\]: bbw beat pros on regular basis
epoxygal [3k\]: song taekon is strong
Maki1 [2k\]: There is an age cutoff to prevent people from wasting years of their lives if they eventually fail to become a pro
zizu [-\]: great SE
hadlar [5d?\]: strong10k, that means nothing. pros lose to amas all the time
cuby [3k?\]: is that the real reason?
hadlar [5d?\]: there are pros on tygem who have like only 15% win percentage
goIngo [?\]: j14 expected by MF
]
;W[if]C[bananas [1k\]: \]: there are pros on tygem who have like only 15% win percentage??
cuby [3k?\]: good call trum
ogre [2d?\]: hmm
kostuek [-\]: nice, ranking discussion
epoxygal [3k\]: nice
ogre [2d?\]: is this the right time to do this?
]
;B[mg]C[miammiam [2d\]: is it allowed to make so many noise with the stones to disturb your opponent  ?;-)
hadlar [5d?\]: yes, cause tygem player pool has pros and strongest amas
snes [-\]: let's see the miai she has
jascooper [6k?\]: Is it legal to have the "eye of the tiger?" Aren't the endangered?
N4KED [1d\]: no its not allowed
]
;W[ng]C[monkeyDgo [3k\]: did the tables just turn in favour of B?
epoxygal [3k\]: she looks scared
ogre [2d?\]: j14 seems off the rythm
]
;B[mh]C[bdbdbd: kang is bbw?
hadlar [5d?\]: no
Maki1 [2k\]: no
hadlar [5d?\]: bbw is another ama
bdbdbd: ok
hadlar [5d?\]: kang is former korean insei
cuby [3k?\]: bbk, bigbadkang
epoxygal [3k\]: brainybeautykang
Maki1 [2k\]: bbw is probably a notch or two stronger than Kang
ogre [2d?\]: i think b is gona win
hadlar [5d?\]: i don't think so
stf7 [1k\]: lol?
hadlar [5d?\]: bbw and kang are comparable
Maki1 [2k\]: b is going to win. The question is just how
GregHouse [2d\]: j12
ILoveKang: bbw beat himountain
cherisse [1k\]: it's happening now
Shedal [2d\]: Oh, so Q11 was a preparation dor this
monkeyDgo [3k\]: J12-L12
DanielTom [5d\]: I hope B loses :-p
sheeryjay [2k\]: I would favour bbw, just considering that many observers thought that Kang won many games on luck
cuby [3k?\]: ugh such hard fight
ogre [2d?\]: b would lose if played q18 
Madzilla [5d?\]: luck favours the strongest player
strong10k [-\]: himountain was kind of messing around in the opening but bbw is storng
BobDole123 [1k\]: l12
N4KED [1d\]: only 2kyu believes in luck
ogre [2d?\]: why?
goIngo [?\]: o11 now ?!
hadlar [5d?\]: lol please stop that argument. even aguilar beat a 9p once. pros can lose, that is life. to be pro now-a-days, the challenge is to defeat the top asian amas, and they are ridiculously strong
stf7 [1k\]: himountain destroyed bbw?
pinpingho [-\]: oh I believe in luch
epoxygal [3k\]: Go has a serious problem with analysis paralysis
pinpingho [-\]: luck*
AhSayuni [4d\]: I think w is ok
AhSayuni [4d\]: but it's close
jascooper [6k?\]: "Luck favors the prepared mind."
N4KED [1d\]: aguilar beat a 9p but a very crappy 9p
ILoveKang: bbw has rebooted
ogre [2d?\]: bbw won highmountain
Trumelunki [4d\]: p18 will be labeled losing move
epoxygal [3k\]: black has burden of komi. i have counted
ILoveKang: he is unstoppable
eatramen [22k\]: hadlar you HAVE TO beat a top amas to get pro certification?
stf7 [1k\]: crappy 0p xD
hadlar [5d?\]: yes
Maki1 [2k\]: you do not need to beat top asian amas to become a pro. You need to beat the other inseis who are trying to pass the pro exam
stf7 [1k\]: 9*
adiida [3k\]: aguilar beat 2 9p not 1 ... in consecutive rounds i think
]
;W[kg]C[Swifft [3d\]: how's artem doing?
epoxygal [3k\]: aguilar still 6d here
bdbdbd: top inseis = top amas though
]
;B[kh]
;W[jg]
;B[li]C[NorthWind [5k\]: L10 could die
eatramen [22k\]: i see
taiji [2d\]: I think w has a chance in this yose
Maki1 [2k\]: no, probably not quite
hadlar [5d?\]: the reason why asian amas are so much stronger than their low professional dans is because there is a bottleneck since only 3 new pros a year. the fierce competition between the top amas to get one of those spots breeds super strong amas
eatramen [22k\]: cornel beat a japanese 8p once too i think
kostuek [-\]: pros are noobs for sure, go ama power
epoxygal [3k\]: because of cornel's handsomeness
DanielTom [5d\]: B must be really happy here
ogre [2d?\]: b gets to n9 huh
epoxygal [3k\]: i think black is sucessful here
sesbes [1k?\]: What did white do?
epoxygal [3k\]: however, white will O11
Maki1 [2k\]: most of the top amas are too old so they do not figure in the cometion at all
hadlar [5d?\]: and also, once you get pro status, you can't lose it. so you have a lot of pros who got the rank then slacked off or started teaching instead of training
GregHouse [2d\]: bbw played?
epoxygal [3k\]: O11
A1R [4k\]: semeai?
ogre [2d?\]: naw i guess n9 bad
epoxygal [3k\]: black always has false moves
pinpingho [-\]: there's only 3 per year hadlar?
cherisse [1k\]: yes o11
AhSayuni [4d\]: o11 is the only attempt
snes [-\]: w need J12 and still dangerous
AhSayuni [4d\]: chance for seki
]
;W[ih]C[DanielTom [5d\]: you can lose the pro status...
]
;B[ii]C[Koukkaaja [3d\]: w sure about his?
pinpingho [-\]: I believe even taiwan make 4 new pro per year
hadlar [5d?\]: you lose it on special circumstances right?
Maki1 [2k\]: w has no choice
joej24 [15k\]: k11?
NorthWind [5k\]: p10
strong10k [-\]: o11 tempting but risky
epoxygal [3k\]: too timid ali boy... now u dont even float like a butterfly but like an elephant
DanielTom [5d\]: yes, hadlar
cherisse [1k\]: w doesn't think like a kyu
strong10k [-\]: white not alive
hadlar [5d?\]: but that is missing my point
hadlar [5d?\]: many pros get the rank and then lax
epoxygal [3k\]: thats the problem... because kyus are fearless. :)
just9x9 [-\]: o11 harder to play after j12 j11 exchange
taiji [2d\]: this can't be good for ali :(
hadlar [5d?\]: they lose the eye of the tiger, which the strong amas still have
Daoloth [-\]: game over
epoxygal [3k\]: now white has libs problem
epoxygal [3k\]: ali blew it... just like artem did
bdbdbd: w fine
Shedal [2d\]: Now W is in a desperate situation :(
DanielTom [5d\]: W captured? :-)
AhSayuni [4d\]: how much time has he got left?
epoxygal [3k\]: no but the center is not much now
Maki1 [2k\]: I think w lives but b can get some cash
nanotech [2k\]: no way w ok with l10
miammiam [2d\]: i dont see it
epoxygal [3k\]: while white helped black get all the bottom
miammiam [2d\]: why capture ?
N4KED [1d\]: white is captured
zizu [-\]: white dont live
scurge [5d\]: I think you are talking of an other game ..
miammiam [2d\]: semiai is ok for white
scurge [5d\]: yes
N4KED [1d\]: l11 is self atari
GregHouse [2d\]: cut is ok for w
N4KED [1d\]: so white dies
Maki1 [2k\]: w lives but may losr the game
epoxygal [3k\]: cut is ok... however....
AhSayuni [4d\]: w not captured!
goIngo [?\]: according to ManyFaces: White lost some terrain
snes [-\]: I think W can cut
goIngo [?\]: now down to 54 %
epoxygal [3k\]: if white cuts, black is gonna squeeze lemonade and secure all the terri
Maki1 [2k\]: w must cut
cherisse [1k\]: good that illia is watching, he knows he should be careful when he plays kang again
snes [-\]: but that's better than dying
epoxygal [3k\]: she will squeeze his lemon if he cuts
cuby [3k?\]: has finland exploded?
gabigo [4k?\]: cut where?
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: does )10 work?
bdbdbd: yeah finland in ruins
LEIBNIZ [3k\]: O10
epoxygal [3k\]: ilya is thinking, damn ali, how can u mess up like this
AhSayuni [4d\]: she will probably sqeeze more if he doesn't
miammiam [2d\]: yes, exactly, cut K11 us fine (white alive) but then black moyo in O10
falloutti [1d?\]: in ruins by korean zerg rush
DanielTom [5d\]: W lives, actually
epoxygal [3k\]: if he doesnt, ahsay, she is going to eat his lemon, not squeeze
epoxygal [3k\]: however....
strong10k [-\]: what the, llia ignoring his game
bdbdbd: that sonds naughty
ogre [2d?\]: both live i think
IstTengen [3k\]: what is b response to k11?
epoxygal [3k\]: white is seriously thinking of capturing the N12 stones
ogre [2d?\]: except for b tail part
AhSayuni [4d\]: doesn't seem so sour
NorthWind [5k\]: L10 lives ?
joej24 [15k\]: if he cuts i think so
DanielTom [5d\]: yes
sesbes [1k?\]: K11 works but black squeezes?
Optician [1k\]: k11 n9
epoxygal [3k\]: L10 lives for sure... but timidly and loses the game
NorthWind [5k\]: k11 n10 and ..
DanielTom [5d\]: Ali is biting his nails
nanotech [2k\]: game has been lost long ago.....
ILoveKang: go Kang
happydog [7k\]: argh, now i lost the game
Shibui [2d?\]: argh, now i lost my mind
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
BobDole123 [1k\]: just pull a nuclear tesuki and get it over with
ogre [2d?\]: how do you lose the game
strong10k [-\]: i lost like 10 iq points
epoxygal [3k\]: white put himself with too much aji behind
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;W[nj]C[epoxygal [3k\]: yes boy
epoxygal [3k\]: this is the attitude!
Jax [10k\]: k11 makes good capture race
happydog [7k\]: ogre, by thinking about it
epoxygal [3k\]: not K11!
nanotech [2k\]: kang leads by 10
joej24 [15k\]: o11
Madzilla [5d?\]: cutting at K11 would lead to a ko
cherisse [1k\]: ali is kewl.
GoIsBoring [3d\]: this is no fun
ogre [2d?\]: thinking is a kyu mistake
Madzilla [5d?\]: I don't think that ko would be favourable to W
just9x9 [-\]: o11 and then?
epoxygal [3k\]: big capturing race looming
goIngo [?\]: now o11
AhSayuni [4d\]: Ali is a strong reader
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;B[ni]C[snes [-\]: will she risk or be calm?
hadlar [5d?\]: W might have to ko here anyway
ogre [2d?\]: would h15 gain libs for b?
cherisse [1k\]: hmm i predict a shortsuji soon
epoxygal [3k\]: ilya wants to be on camera
fatihsulak [-\]: i smell ko here
just9x9 [-\]: wth is a shortsuji?
scurge [5d\]: O10 bad..
Shibui [2d?\]: I don't think the sponsor likes it that people are in the way...
joej24 [15k\]: cut
Madzilla [5d?\]: cutting at K11 now gives the same ko
epoxygal [3k\]: wedge P11
mythical [1k\]: just cut it
cuby [3k?\]: shortsuji is http://cuby.us/misc/rollingstone.png 
mythical [1k\]: what ever happends happends
sagesse [-\]: what would happen if white cut k11 before o10 ?
sagesse [-\]: could anyone give the seq?
Shedal [2d\]: LOL, cuby
epoxygal [3k\]: read it yourself
epoxygal [3k\]: shedal... it's a trojan.. dont click on the link
cherisse [1k\]: lol
Shedal [2d\]: too late
sagesse [-\]: i cant i see white winning
just9x9 [-\]: lol cuby thats a nice shot
hadlar [5d?\]: i bet this is what will happen: n10 p10 k11 o9 g11 n9 h12 h15 g10 k15 l15 q18 
Doukan [3k\]: i wantto see shortsuji o_O cmon Kang!!
A1R [4k\]: j11 playable now?
cuby [3k?\]: haters gonna hate my prtscrn skillz
eatramen [22k\]: shame on you cuby lol
Maki1 [2k\]: Is that Mr Ooijer in teh background?
falloutti [1d?\]: what's shameful about that link
cuby [3k?\]: Euro who is in background?
oo00oo [12k?\]: no ide
sayona [2k\]: k11
eatramen [22k\]: i was kidding falloutti
epoxygal [3k\]: why is ali so stressed and kang is so relaxed?
sayona [2k\]: cut now
falloutti [1d?\]: no you were not
hadlar [5d?\]: k11 is weak
hadlar [5d?\]: might as well n10 since it's sente
eatramen [22k\]: yes i was that's why i loled
hadlar [5d?\]: B can't protect the cut since then W gets p11
Shedal [2d\]: EuroGoTV, how is Artem's game going?
cuby [3k?\]: ali worried about catching ilya's consumption
A1R [4k\]: k11 works
Jax [10k\]: k11 seems the only chance for w to me
bdbdbd: popov ahead in artem game
falloutti [1d?\]: you act like you were kidding, but the truth is very different
hadlar [5d?\]: i already told you
epoxygal [3k\]: will P11 work?
hadlar [5d?\]: n10 p10 k11 o9 g11 n11 h12 h15 g10 k15 l15 q18 
hadlar [5d?\]: this is the seq
Ashura [2k\]: p11 wouldnt work
eatramen [22k\]: falloutti who are you dude? 
taiji [2d\]: so j11 was added to get this squeeze?
ogre [2d?\]: that seems likely
ogre [2d?\]: the ko looks way worse for w
epoxygal [3k\]: P11 works.
falloutti [1d?\]: eatramen, the spanish inquisition of course
sdfsdd: any idea why it says shes 16 here? http://www.baduklessons.com/
hadlar [5d?\]: B saves some, gets sente, and then gets q18
epoxygal [3k\]: ok, P11 is the move
sayona [2k\]: n10 is fake move
ogre [2d?\]: but b wont play k15
Ashura [2k\]: p11- p10
Optician [1k\]: p11 ends in ko if w wants to
sayona [2k\]: k11 is the true move
ogre [2d?\]: b take sente somewhere else
A1R [4k\]: she came with 16 to europe
eatramen [22k\]: well good sir i assure you i was kidding or else i wouldnt have loled.. period
epoxygal [3k\]: P10 then connect, then?
Shedal [2d\]: bdbdbd, who is popov?
maze [5d\]: n10 only move
sayona [2k\]: n10 = is what you play if you can't read and u just play what looks like the best move
hadlar [5d?\]: ya
bdbdbd: sorry, i mistook artem for ilya
hadlar [5d?\]: n10 only move
Gizensha [?\]: maybe she will calmly take a risk?
ogre [2d?\]: b omit k15 to play what o3 or q19 or something
Ashura [2k\]: n10
Gizensha [?\]: ;p
mythical [1k\]: n 10
mythical [1k\]: :)
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;W[ji]C[nanotech [2k\]: p11 will not work
bdbdbd: two eastern europeans, my bad
ogre [2d?\]: koooo
taiji [2d\]: lowl
Frango [?\]: o9
Jax [10k\]: w has to do the capture race for the h11 group
sayona [2k\]: see... i was right
]
;B[mj]C[miammiam [2d\]: no ko needed
some1 [?\]: W swing for ko
]
;W[mk]C[A1R [4k\]: ko#
]
;B[nk]C[epoxygal [3k\]: wow she is cuter in her site
cherisse [1k\]: zomg
miammiam [2d\]: N8
eatramen [22k\]: it says AT the age of
miammiam [2d\]: and still fair game
cherisse [1k\]: what site?
miammiam [2d\]: yose better for white
Optician [1k\]: n8 n7
cuby [3k?\]: she has a site?
Maki1 [2k\]: where is this site please?
Optician [1k\]: big ko
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
bdbdbd: maki... google for her name
sdfsdd: http://www.baduklessons.com/
eatramen [22k\]: http://www.baduklessons.com/
Jax [10k\]: g10 or n11 first
miammiam [2d\]: it is ntot a ko, no need to take it
Maki1 [2k\]: thanks
nanotech [2k\]: what ko?
epoxygal [3k\]: i am going to take lessons from her
sayona [2k\]: n8
NschoTschi [-\]: close to resign?
hadlar [5d?\]: is she even on kgs/
joej24 [15k\]: where does she live?
Madzilla [5d?\]: this ko is kind of bad news for W since B keeps finding new uses for her dead stones
N4KED [1d\]: she is going to teach next month on wbaduk
N4KED [1d\]: check on august 6th for schedule
miammiam [2d\]: NschoTschi, i disagree, after N8 sequence score is very close (B+0.5 ?)
sdfsdd: kyoungnang is her kgs id
Madzilla [5d?\]: W has invested a lot in killing them and still needs to invest more
MrTortoise [5k\]: were they really dead?
]
;W[ml]
;B[mm]C[MrTortoise [5k\]: they had 2 libs ;)
cherisse [1k\]: oh the free simul continues? i was wondering about that
]
;W[nl]
;B[nm]C[AhSayuni [4d\]: ko
sayona [2k\]: b won the game
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w has 10min left
ogre [2d?\]: wheres the ko threts
]
;W[ok]C[Shibui [2d?\]: and counting..
sayona [2k\]: but w had no choice locally
eatramen [22k\]: epox you cant take lessons, you  wont be a kyu anymore =(
cherisse [1k\]: deng
epoxygal [3k\]: i need lessons from her
ogre [2d?\]: h15?
emre35 [5d\]: h18 for w threat
A1R [4k\]: well i think she gets a lot of students
epoxygal [3k\]: oh ya... actually i am 3dan in strength. this is my fun account
ogre [2d?\]: w eated first tho
nanotech [2k\]: h12 for blk firs
strong10k [-\]: bashing 3k is fun
nanotech [2k\]: w
falloutti [1d?\]: "im 3 dan, but actually, when im having fun while playing, im 3 kyu"
cherisse [1k\]: you deceived us epoxygal
Poney [2d\]: how can you be 6 stone weaker when you play for fun ?
hadlar [5d?\]: it's possible
epoxygal [3k\]: fallout, you want a game? i use my 3d account and let u 2 handi
eatramen [22k\]: i know you are epox you mentioned it a few days ago :p
strong10k [-\]: sandbag
Maki1 [2k\]: 3kyu on KGS is in another universe than 3d
mythical [1k\]: going for fun move and not going for correct move thats how   :)
epoxygal [3k\]: i play teaching games with kyus, they are my brothers
falloutti [1d?\]: epoxygal, no, too busy playing starcraft 2
sayona [2k\]: n11 will suffice
falloutti [1d?\]: go doesn't have any blood :<
some1 [?\]: many step ko for W
epoxygal [3k\]: awww... I want SC2!!!
hadlar [5d?\]: one time long ago i played captain and almost won, then my strength dropped to around 3k
bdbdbd: sc2 rocks!
epoxygal [3k\]: guys, focus on the game pls
zakatan [6k\]: it's just 60€ to get it
NorthWind [5k\]: just q18. B way ahead anyway
hadlar [5d?\]: and i took a good long break
Maki1 [2k\]: n11 is no good
Syptryn [3d\]: argh sc2 might keep my ko skills down :(
snes [-\]: xD her email on her web is cute20@...
zakatan [6k\]: and the freaking port 3557 open
Poney [2d\]: captain is weak
epoxygal [3k\]: SC2 roawks!
Syptryn [3d\]: go
joej24 [15k\]: how much is 60 e?
zakatan [6k\]: which i don't have...
hadlar [5d?\]: captain is 4d, and in that game i was 4d as well
hadlar [5d?\]: but then dropped to 3k
AhSayuni [4d\]: k18 not a big enough threat I guess
happydog [7k\]: captain the best
sayona [2k\]: n11 is fine
Maki1 [2k\]: lol, the captin never loses
MJoergen [?\]: I'd hate to have such a weak white group against a 7d !!!
gabigo [4k?\]: so you are fake 5d?
ogre [2d?\]: b could avoid ko and just connect
Syptryn [3d\]: I don't understand whatblack thinking
hadlar [5d?\]: lol
ogre [2d?\]: is that bad?
hadlar [5d?\]: this was a long time ago
Syptryn [3d\]: p-8 is obvios move
ogre [2d?\]: b looking ko threats
sayona [2k\]: b has options
Syptryn [3d\]: heshould play and look in white time :)
miammiam [2d\]: K18 is however the biggest threat (excepted captures)
ogre [2d?\]: have to choose to p11 or not
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;B[ol]C[sayona [2k\]: b won either way
hadlar [5d?\]: but ya even now i don't think i'm 5d, i'm probably at best 4d
Madzilla [5d?\]: B has plenty of good ko threats, no reason to back down
hadlar [5d?\]: a month ago, i was playing 5d level, but i've weakened
epoxygal [3k\]: you have "?"
kostuek [-\]: why ko at all h11 dead?
Maki1 [2k\]: lol
hadlar [5d?\]: i need a break to recover my strength
GregHouse [2d\]: p11
hadlar [5d?\]: i alway play best right after a break
ogre [2d?\]: count libs kosutek
go1d [4d\]: n11 
ogre [2d?\]: and teritorys
Madzilla [5d?\]: I wouldn't call P8 obvious since you have to consider the ko threat situation before playing it
kostuek [-\]: ah yeah
Frango [?\]: why is everyone talking about their strength
Jax [10k\]: w p11 or g10 to try to capture h11 group 
hadlar [5d?\]: someone mentioned a drop in 6 stones
hadlar [5d?\]: of strength
hadlar [5d?\]: so we start talking about our strength
strong10k [-\]: i drop 20 stones then go back 21 stones
miammiam [2d\]: P11 or N11, which one is the best ?
strong10k [-\]: all the time
Maki1 [2k\]: impeccable logic
nanok [?\]: inst' m9 dead in the water? what am i missing
cherisse [1k\]: poor ali
ogre [2d?\]: the ko 
miammiam [2d\]: or O12...
sayona [2k\]: resign
hadlar [5d?\]: it's actually not so bad
Maki1 [2k\]: you are missing the fact that H11 has only 3 libs
hadlar [5d?\]: if you look at the board
ogre [2d?\]: pp11 looks good to me and eat ko first
emre35 [5d\]: g11
hadlar [5d?\]: W seems to have more threats
IstTengen [3k\]: nanok, h10 has 3 libs as well
go1d [4d\]: g11 is bad
]
;W[nh]C[Jax [10k\]: their is a capture race in this ko fight?
go1d [4d\]: n11 is better
NorthWind [5k\]: nanok, h11 also dead ... which dies first ?
go1d [4d\]: or this too
AhSayuni [4d\]: ugh
go1d [4d\]: the same
joej24 [15k\]: then white can p11
AhSayuni [4d\]: made the ko bigger
ogre [2d?\]: o12 makes slightly lighter
eatramen [22k\]: wow this is terrible for w
joej24 [15k\]: nah
epoxygal [3k\]: wow
hadlar [5d?\]: what threat does black have?
hadlar [5d?\]: look at the board
nanotech [2k\]: this could be win  for w
AhSayuni [4d\]: o14
go1d [4d\]: black has no threat :D
miammiam [2d\]: good point hadlar...
Luna86 [9k\]: better to white yes
sayona [2k\]: o12 is a good move
UFO [3k\]: where is ali jabarin from euroharrygo?
ogre [2d?\]: h15 not a threat
sayona [2k\]: wow even i didn't think about this move
Madzilla [5d?\]: B8 probably good threat
IstTengen [3k\]: eatramen, no it isnt... n12 about to die
A1R [4k\]: israel
sayona [2k\]: w not bad
NschoTschi [-\]: p11 
MrTortoise [5k\]: g13 is a threat
hadlar [5d?\]: b8 not big enough
bdbdbd: wow even 2k didn't think about that move, lol
sayona [2k\]: still lose
miammiam [2d\]: B8 and sente is killing C12 ?
eatramen [22k\]: yes i am learning now, im still a kyu
hadlar [5d?\]: rough for black
epoxygal [3k\]: i am still a kyu
AhSayuni [4d\]: oh
AhSayuni [4d\]: ok.. nice
GregHouse [2d\]: c3
miammiam [2d\]: i dont think so : B11 B10 is life 
MJoergen [?\]: Perhaps black should have played at O12 instead of P8
hadlar [5d?\]: found good use of her dead stones only to end with ko where she has no threat
Madzilla [5d?\]: W is risking more in this ko than B
Imvatim [?\]: p8 seems mistake. n11 better?
hadlar [5d?\]: no risk if you see the board
go1d [4d\]: yes but black has no threat
hadlar [5d?\]: black has no real threat anywhere, so W is fine
Madzilla [5d?\]: E14 is threat
DangoMango [2k\]: d5 threat
Sarcoma [11k\]: yes e14
hadlar [5d?\]: e14 saves some stones, but it's not big enough since f11 is in atari
NorthWind [5k\]: yeah B has little to lose, still wins anyway
go1d [4d\]:  d5 not a threat
Madzilla [5d?\]: D5 probably not big enough
emre35 [5d\]: b in trouble
joej24 [15k\]: yup
GregHouse [2d\]: c3 trhreat?
ogre [2d?\]: d5 bg enough to win game
epoxygal [3k\]: E14 is
joej24 [15k\]: not 
IceSpectre [4k\]: e14 treath ? 
AhSayuni [4d\]: I think d5 is big enough
GregHouse [2d\]: no
AhSayuni [4d\]: but he can answer once
MrTortoise [5k\]: m15 was a wierd move
Vovka27 [3k\]: d5 is almost nothing^^
hadlar [5d?\]: he can't answer once if B does l11 here
AhSayuni [4d\]: hey Diana
kjp [1k\]: n11 p11 p10 q10 p10 
hadlar [5d?\]: B doing l11 here is direct ko
epoxygal [3k\]: diana is cuter. more petite
kjp [1k\]: connect at n11 
ogre [2d?\]: i like that its got a exciting ko in it
bdbdbd: diana girlfriend of shilt?
sayona [2k\]: o12 was the life saver
sayona [2k\]: game back to interesting
AhSayuni [4d\]: o_O
Jax [10k\]: With how w played at the beginning I didn't expect this type of exciting fight
]
;B[nd]C[ogre [2d?\]: u mean ondrej?
epoxygal [3k\]: wow
hadlar [5d?\]: nice, B is generating threats
smartrobot [9d\]: w win
GregHouse [2d\]: d5 20points
epoxygal [3k\]: robot says white win!
bdbdbd: yeah, ondrej
NorthWind [5k\]: oh
Shedal [2d\]: thanks, robot!!
Sheeple [?\]: b gonna chicken out
Madzilla [5d?\]: B needs ~15pt from her ko threat to win
bdbdbd: the czech guy
PatrickP [19k\]: i ass ume the group at n13s dead
taiji [2d\]: its good to hear a 9d vote of confidence for w :)
smartrobot [9d\]: my SE tell me w wub
NorthWind [5k\]: better have another look then
hadlar [5d?\]: haha
Madzilla [5d?\]: O16 looks right on the border of what is enough
smartrobot [9d\]: win
epoxygal [3k\]: robots SE is super cool!
Shedal [2d\]: :-D
ogre [2d?\]: i wish i had smartrobots se
hadlar [5d?\]: is your SE cgoban's SE?
]
;W[oi]C[strong10k [-\]: smartrobot programed his own SE
kostuek [-\]: strong se
AhSayuni [4d\]: L18 sente
Q161 [?\]: lol robot
AhSayuni [4d\]: meaning that n16's gote?
BobDole123 [1k\]: lol this game is so epic
some1 [?\]: why does robot need a SE?
bdbdbd: wub?
AhSayuni [4d\]: guess it does
ogre [2d?\]: this looks kinda nice for b tho
sayona [2k\]: q12
epoxygal [3k\]: N15
sesbes [1k?\]: White made 35 points in the center!
sayona [2k\]: n16
Optician [1k\]: ub next to in on keyboard - so wub = win
smartrobot [9d\]: mis type
nanok [?\]: a really smart robot is lazy, so will make a dumber computer count for him
Maki1 [2k\]: l11
epoxygal [3k\]: robot rocks! like SC2!
bdbdbd: same as humans, really :D
sayona [2k\]: n15
Jax [10k\]: now it's close game it all demends on yose now
nanok [?\]: kang seems to have a bit of an obsession with tidyness. interesting (as i thought in asia doing that on the board is considered unacceptable)
sayona [2k\]: or n16
miammiam [2d\]: P15 only move after ?
sayona [2k\]: whats better
AhSayuni [4d\]: how much time left??
sayona [2k\]: not sure
epoxygal [3k\]: let's count
eatramen [22k\]: well she isnt in asia now nanok
kyyni [3k\]: what did she do?
Q161 [?\]: thx sherlock
ogre [2d?\]: why is the stone in the middle of the board moving by itself?
sayona [2k\]: prob n16 then q12
Sheeple [?\]: a bug crawled under it
NorthWind [5k\]: nanok, she's been assimilated into European ways
taiji [2d\]: Ali is a total badass
MJoergen [?\]: tele-kinesis
eatramen [22k\]: ur welcome db
ogre [2d?\]: doesnt it bother the players?
bdbdbd: o14 aji nasty
Karnesun [5d\]: Euro, how aboyt Artem?
Academic [6k\]: db?
Karnesun [5d\]: about*
eatramen [22k\]: dont worry about it academic
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: still playing
miammiam [2d\]: ghost stones, with super hidden power
cinar: seems w stronger at fighting
eatramen [22k\]: wow
cinar: than early game
eatramen [22k\]: lol ilia
eatramen [22k\]: ?
Shibui [2d?\]: bless you
epoxygal [3k\]: white has 70+, almost 80. black has 70+ too but not more than 75. White wins, apparently
MrTortoise [5k\]: 014?
Academic [6k\]: first word?
ww [?\]: how about antti tormanen
hadlar [5d?\]: this will probably be the seq: n11 p10 q12 p12 o14 p14 n15 o14 n16 l15 n17 
bistrogo [2d\]: And Thomas Euro?
Optician [1k\]: o16 seems difficult to build on
cherisse [1k\]: ali is my new hero!
sesbes [1k?\]: N11 might be a threat with the p10 ko idea
epoxygal [3k\]: i declare white wins by 12.5 points
MrTortoise [5k\]: n11 is kinda big
AhSayuni [4d\]: oh
NorthWind [5k\]: B played o16 for a reason ... we'll see why
hadlar [5d?\]: B can really squeeze around here
cherisse [1k\]: how about the second board?
eatramen [22k\]: its not over till its over 
NotAfraid [3d\]: ךםך
Shedal [2d\]: cherisse, who was you previous hero? Ilia?
LovroKlc [2k\]: what about Csaba?
eatramen [22k\]: kang will find the wi somehow
]
;B[me]
;W[nf]C[some1 [?\]: wow Ali winning this would be awesome
]
;B[mc]C[eatramen [22k\]: win*
hadlar [5d?\]: noo
shodan2009 [4k\]: black + time
A1R [4k\]: l15
epoxygal [3k\]: ali getting cocky now
strong10k [-\]: this works?
AhSayuni [4d\]: maybe L18 now?
hadlar [5d?\]: ya, black is done
Madzilla [5d?\]: of course this works, otherwise O16 would be a bad threat
taiji [2d\]: lol ali is internet player, standing over board
MrTortoise [5k\]: b aiming for n11
hadlar [5d?\]: nuuuuuuuu i wanted kang to win T-T
Fenix [?\]: P16?
joej24 [15k\]: sorry hadlar
cherisse [1k\]: yes i want illia to win!
yamashitaK [5d\]: is this the last round ?
joej24 [15k\]: not this time
loler [4d\]: kang is  cute
Warfreak2 [4d\]: she is dead
zakatan [6k\]: 8th round of 10
Luna86 [9k\]: yama, 10rounds iirc
A1R [4k\]: 2 2 go
Sheeple [?\]: round 8/10
eatramen [22k\]: welcome to the club loler
yamashitaK [5d\]: oh cool 
hadlar [5d?\]: l18 works
yamashitaK [5d\]: then kang must win 
hadlar [5d?\]: so B has lost
Shedal [2d\]: hahaha, hadlar :-D It seems that european champion will be the same as EGC winner ;-)
miammiam [2d\]: well, madzilla, 016 makes sense also without N17. and it is not clear that N17 works ;-)
Madzilla [5d?\]: this is huge for B since it eliminates the W endgame of jumping in at R18
MJoergen [?\]: Now black is threatening k15
AhSayuni [4d\]: Andrew's right..
AhSayuni [4d\]: why not p16?
NotAfraid [3d\]: why black didnt play the ko?
Fenix [?\]: hmm, or m18..
Fenix [?\]: safer
hadlar [5d?\]: shedal, i don't care so long as they earned it
Warfreak2 [4d\]: black got two moves in a row at o16
Koukkaaja [3d\]: Kang's plays always seem to be just for fun
Warfreak2 [4d\]: what do you expect her to get by playing the ko
falloutti [1d?\]: where from is ali baba
alexanderp [?\]: if Kang loses to Ali and Ilya wins Pop, Kang's SOS will be worse than Ilya's...and that means he can be 1 again
N4KED [1d\]: britian
epoxygal [3k\]: now my SE tells me that black wins
MrTortoise [5k\]: koukkaaja i kinda agree
nanotech [2k\]: w wants to reduce o 13 liberties so to connect at n11
MrTortoise [5k\]: she coulda locked it up but played m15
N4KED [1d\]: or maybe he is from isreal....cant remember
hadlar [5d?\]: what about artem, does he still factor into this egc?
]
;W[mb]C[Maki1 [2k\]: Kang is a master at snatching victory from the jaws of defeat
epoxygal [3k\]: artem win ilya
cuby [3k?\]: kang is master of snatch
miammiam [2d\]: snatch means ?
Maki1 [2k\]: gah...
Sheeple [?\]: b must be kinda happy
MrTortoise [5k\]: l15
smartrobot [9d\]: some bad aji here
]
;B[oc]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: snatch is a bad word
loler [4d\]: w win
cherisse [1k\]: interesting
MildPeril [1d\]: wow.. how is  sente then .. N11 not trouble for w now?
bdbdbd: b gets L15
MrTortoise [5k\]: l15 needed bnefore n11 i think
]
;W[nb]C[sesbes [1k?\]: L15 is sente with the N11 idea?
Trumelunki [4d\]: l15 and n11 miai
]
;B[ke]C[Fenix [?\]: i'd hope for ilya to win if he werent rocking back/forth like mad, it's too rude.
Maki1 [2k\]: zomg
A1R [4k\]: cell phone xD
hadlar [5d?\]: why is B playing so many things out of the sequences i have in my head
strong10k [-\]: white has a lot of weird antics at the go table
BobDole123 [1k\]: m17
MrTortoise [5k\]: w n11 and b gets top
snes [-\]: w is out of liberties everywhere, uf
onegoal [3k\]: ilya is always going cold turkey
Warfreak2 [4d\]: w also has g10 to save those stones
NorthWind [5k\]: k15 connects ?
MrTortoise [5k\]: haha
sesbes [1k?\]: White has to take now at n11
Warfreak2 [4d\]: and enough liberties
Limelight [1d\]: k15 works
Warfreak2 [4d\]: so no need to n11 directly
ogre [2d?\]: things seem to be going real good for b
ogre [2d?\]: b didnt have to do anything in lower left 
A1R [4k\]: yep
N4KED [1d\]: need n11 I think
MildPeril [1d\]: if w k15... B n11.. ???
MrTortoise [5k\]: m15 wa sa crazy move
MrTortoise [5k\]: yeah
bdbdbd: k15 ok
hadlar [5d?\]: W can't tenuki this
hadlar [5d?\]: has to n11
smartrobot [9d\]: n11
mFz [3k\]: whats the kgs name of these both players plz ?
hadlar [5d?\]: or else he dies
MrTortoise [5k\]: w n11 now 
joej24 [15k\]: how much time now?
stf7 [1k\]: she doesnt play on kgs,she is teacher on wbaduk
eatramen [22k\]: kang does play on kgs, ali idk 
stf7 [1k\]: !
IceSpectre [4k\]: funny but a6 is huge now 
smartrobot [9d\]: up side group can't be killed
Zitrone [1k\]: q18 then m17?
hadlar [5d?\]: it can't?
]
;W[mi]C[A1R [4k\]: is w's group alive
A1R [4k\]: in the top
MrTortoise [5k\]: bk15
bdbdbd: 9d says yes
smartrobot [9d\]: my program tell me w is alive
bdbdbd: so i say yes too
Q161 [?\]: lol
hadlar [5d?\]: no!
Sheeple [?\]: must be some bug
hadlar [5d?\]: i must send a virus to your program
Fenix [?\]: if b j16, w has k15..
hadlar [5d?\]: the cute girl must win!
epoxygal [3k\]: how strong is ur program?
jascooper [6k?\]: W plays the cowardly move, good for him
Q161 [?\]: strongest program in the world
smartrobot [9d\]: i'm not clear
Syptryn [3d\]: looksalive
strong10k [-\]: how many moves can the program read a second?
bdbdbd: you're murky
Q161 [?\]: over 9000
epoxygal [3k\]: black resigns
Sheeple [?\]: lol, dream on
bdbdbd: lol u only need to read 1 move... if it's the right one..
snes [-\]: how is the game now if W alive?
ogre [2d?\]: b wining
eatramen [22k\]: the amount of moves a program can read varies because it depends on how powerful the computer is
MrTortoise [5k\]: not if w alive
miammiam [2d\]: white winning you mean....
miammiam [2d\]: because of snapbacks, it is alive
epoxygal [3k\]: black goto go in bottom left corner
ogre [2d?\]: naw i think b ahead
Jax [10k\]: k15
Shibui [2d?\]: w winning and b is wining
Hellhuman [1d\]: since when ali is 6d?
hadlar [5d?\]: W has to be killable on top
MJoergen [?\]: b wining or winning :-)
NorthWind [5k\]: a6
Fenix [?\]: w has about 84.5?
epoxygal [3k\]: white lives
nanotech [2k\]: n 16 next w move if b does't play it
ogre [2d?\]: b dont have to kill w
N4KED [1d\]: how much time does b have?
hadlar [5d?\]: B m17 here, then what can W do
epoxygal [3k\]: P16 is a cliff
grumpyjoe [-\]: kill n18 please
Sheeple [?\]: w leading only a bit
sesbes [1k?\]: What about m17?
Fenix [?\]: and b about 76?
Fenix [?\]: oh no, b about 80 soz
Fenix [?\]: so w +4.5?
Syptryn [3d\]: best black can do is get Q-18 in sente
hadlar [5d?\]: arg
miammiam [2d\]: hadlater L18 ?
hadlar [5d?\]: is it because of j19 that B can't kill
epoxygal [3k\]: she is too cute today
Fenix [?\]: any strong player's opinion on score maybe?
ww [?\]: fight over, yose time ?`
MrTortoise [5k\]: considering w's body language earlier im surpised hes pulled back
]
;B[hm]C[any1 [?\]: k7
Q161 [?\]: ali is tough like a rhino
MrTortoise [5k\]: i thought he was goign to resign if it wasnt for the camera
Sheeple [?\]: euro, what did the clock say?
Wagaboo [10k\]: why did white take the stones o11 n10 
Fenix [?\]: seems w gets o2 ^^
strong10k [-\]: the other guy looks half drunk
NorthWind [5k\]: uh oh, the clock started a commentary
gagaga: W+15~?
Syptryn [3d\]: black should play q-18
]
;W[nr]C[Syptryn [3d\]: huge sente
Shibui [2d?\]: something about 60 seconds..
epoxygal [3k\]: this is reall lady gaga
Warfreak2 [4d\]: clock says b should resign
smartrobot [9d\]: o
sesbes [1k?\]: B7 is big at some point? After a few moves to reduce moyo
cherisse [1k\]: O
smartrobot [9d\]: 噢
Karnesun [5d\]: yes
smartrobot [9d\]: o2
epoxygal [3k\]: black lose
hadlar [5d?\]: ilya really wants that win, he's hovering around the game a lot
taiji [2d\]: cornel looking on
N4KED [1d\]: o2 ...haha
smartrobot [9d\]: misread
wasd [6d\]: p1 
IceSpectre [4k\]: ali has a kgs account ? 
epoxygal [3k\]: o2?? wow!!!
Shedal [2d\]: can someone explain the neccessity of N11?
NotAfraid [3d\]: why
NotAfraid [3d\]: p1
epoxygal [3k\]: robot move
goIngo [?\]: manyfaces says 70 % for white
Fenix [?\]: doraemon, how is score, please? ^^'
ogre [2d?\]: how is p1 not working?
crizz [2k\]: cornel finished?
crazyboy [5d\]: p1!
MrTortoise [5k\]: compare it to b n1
A1R [4k\]: why misread?
Hellhuman [1d\]: how has cornel done?
MrTortoise [5k\]: w couldnt appraoch
NotAfraid [3d\]: p1 is working no?
taiji [2d\]: shedal, imagine if b did n11
crazyboy [5d\]: the ladder work
epoxygal [3k\]: p1 of course... however.... white has a wedge
lose100 [2k?\]: without n11 m11 kills m10
Shedal [2d\]: taiji, imagined
AhSayuni [4d\]: wow
Hellhuman [1d\]: p1 leaves aji
AhSayuni [4d\]: ouch
losambo [2d\]: did cornel win?
Fenix [?\]: p1 no go
AhSayuni [4d\]: aji for what?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: p1 leaves three dead stones
yamashitaK [5d\]: p1 !
strong10k [-\]: p1
epoxygal [3k\]: aji no moto
Hellhuman [1d\]: p3! :P
]
;B[fl]C[ogre [2d?\]: now with o7 strong 
IceSpectre [4k\]: o3 
ogre [2d?\]: woah
loler [4d\]: o2 mistake
crazyboy [5d\]: ???
Shedal [2d\]: taiji, what next? after B N11
Hellhuman [1d\]: if she plays p3, im super cool
DerWitt [2d\]: woahh
Maki1 [2k\]: p1 does not work because of snap back
smartrobot [9d\]: !!!
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: cornel lost
strong10k [-\]: o3
loler [4d\]: b can play p1
ogre [2d?\]: lader worked with o7
bdbdbd: b desperate now
yamashitaK [5d\]: p1 works
epoxygal [3k\]: WAH!!!!!
smartrobot [9d\]: crazy
hadlar [5d?\]: B going all in
miammiam [2d\]: O2 is not a mistake. P1 is not working
ogre [2d?\]: used to not work
Shibui [2d?\]: this is madness
LovroKlc [2k\]: what about Csaba - Artem game?
epoxygal [3k\]: this is MAD!!
wasd [6d\]: p3 
Sheeple [?\]: seems good sente
miammiam [2d\]: (because take during the ladder)
strong10k [-\]: o3o3o3o3o3o3o3o3o3o3
StevenStar [2k\]: It seems that  b give up...
LovroKlc [2k\]: just E9
ogre [2d?\]: miammiam read again
ogre [2d?\]: it used to not work
hadlar [5d?\]: ya, resign looks soon
ogre [2d?\]: now it does
]
;W[gm]C[crazyboy [5d\]: p3 say goodbye to b
snes [-\]: she got confident in this game
loler [4d\]: b can play p1
loler [4d\]: come
loler [4d\]: on
ogre [2d?\]: the change is o7 stones
Q161 [?\]: no he cant
yamashitaK [5d\]: sure b can 
NotAfraid [3d\]: whyno?!
NotAfraid [3d\]: he can
DerWitt [2d\]: how does p1 work?
AHUEA [2d?\]: he can, and get raped.
strong10k [-\]: p3, o3, p4, p5
loler [4d\]: yes
ogre [2d?\]: they were not there before
AHUEA [2d?\]: er, she
IstTengen [3k\]: really? w p3 looks deadly
smartrobot [9d\]: over
Q161 [?\]: w+?
Hellhuman [1d\]: b+?
epoxygal [3k\]: over. finish
yamashitaK [5d\]: p1p3 o3 p4 p5 o4n4
ogre [2d?\]: simple rolly ladder
bdbdbd: ali is a hero
Maki1 [2k\]: p1 p3 and then what?
goIngo [?\]: o2 blunder, game open again
taiji [2d\]: both +R?
bdbdbd: for allah!
epoxygal [3k\]: allah?
Wagaboo [10k\]: both + R
eatramen [22k\]: ...................
AHUEA [2d?\]: then n5...
bdbdbd: ali arab, i assume muslim :)
bdbdbd: but not sure
Hellhuman [1d\]: ali is from israel
gagaga: eurogo how muhc time is left for both?
]
;B[gk]C[NotAfraid [3d\]: israel :)
Warfreak2 [4d\]: game is over, both players lose
gagaga: much*
smartrobot [9d\]: b is not super strong
Karnesun [5d\]: Дима, как переводится both?
epoxygal [3k\]: sadness for cute kang kang today
A1R [4k\]: w in byoyomi....
Shedal [2d\]: Karne, оба
alexanderp [?\]: both - оба
maze [5d\]: he is Christian
epoxygal [3k\]: robot will win her for sure
ogre [2d?\]: wow kang does not care about p1
]
;W[gl]C[AhSayuni [4d\]: he's the only Arab player here
Sheeple [?\]: ko from hell
hadlar [5d?\]: smartrobot, is B stronger than bbw?
loler [4d\]: people say kang was first class insei
mihi [6d\]: P1,P3,O3,P4,P5,O4,N4,O5,N5,O6,N6
NorthWind [5k\]: e9
epoxygal [3k\]: BBW stronger than kang for sure
miammiam [2d\]: if white P3, P1 is not working, i confirm. the ladder is working only for white, not for balck
Fenix [?\]: o4, n4, o5, continue, yamashita ;9
lose100 [2k?\]: p1 does not work you guys
onegoal [3k\]: who is bbw?!?
Fenix [?\]: w has q5 after that
loler [4d\]: of course it works
Adjutant [?\]: yes, kang was first class insei; also works for baduk TV
AhSayuni [4d\]: (that played in a tournament at least)
IstTengen [3k\]: ah, yes, n5 does the trick
prescott [1d\]: how old is kang?
MrTortoise [5k\]: how trong are thee 2?
smartrobot [9d\]: artem would beat b if he played correctly
ogre [2d?\]: you confirm huh
ogre [2d?\]: lol
epoxygal [3k\]: artem blew the game away. 
yamashitaK [5d\]: fenix read again 
Hellhuman [1d\]: even i would beat b, when i play correctly :P
nasnad [2d\]: p1 captures in a few ladders
Kajiura [10k\]: Who is winning please ?
Shibui [2d?\]: pretty trong
yamashitaK [5d\]: just atari 
Moppel: p1 p3 o3 p5
hadlar [5d?\]: p1 p3 o3 p4 p5 o4 n4 o5 n5 o6 n6 n3 p6 o3 o1 n2 m2 B wins
StefanRadu [1k\]: WHITE WINNING
hadlar [5d?\]: p1 works for B
yamashitaK [5d\]: yes sure
strong10k [-\]: p1 works
loler [4d\]: everyone who thinks p1 doesnt work go try the ladder offline until you see it
strong10k [-\]: i read it
Fenix [?\]: oh not ladder xD
Fenix [?\]: sorry
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: artem is winning against csaba
ogre [2d?\]: it didnt work until after the fight on top
bdbdbd: kang burned out after yesterday
Shedal [2d\]: smartrobot, you can beat literally ANY player if you play correcly
Zitrone [1k\]: p1 p5 then?
]
;B[cr]C[sameasyou [2d\]: do u know anything about Cornel vs Kim?
Hellhuman [1d\]: wtf
ogre [2d?\]: fight on top make o7 stones 
epoxygal [3k\]: robot plays correctly all the time
epoxygal [3k\]: wow!!!
crizz [2k\]: cornel lost
snes [-\]: ...
hadlar [5d?\]: lol what is B thinking
elvard [2k\]: hmm?
epoxygal [3k\]: she is desperate
strong10k [-\]: time
Sheeple [?\]: making ko threats of course
cherisse [1k\]: what is this
N4KED [1d\]: byomi
hadlar [5d?\]: i think she's reading something with d5
NotAfraid [3d\]: he is wanting to cut and kill
goIngo [?\]: c2 strange
marfg [2k\]: nasty
N4KED [1d\]: timesuji
smartrobot [9d\]: i mean artem was leading in the middle of that game
goIngo [?\]: mF: white back to 70 %
gagaga: so sad
Q161 [?\]: p1 doesnt work for b
cherisse [1k\]: ahhh
gagaga: B had this game in the pocket
]
;W[cq]C[epoxygal [3k\]: resign
loler [4d\]: o1 works for b
loler [4d\]: p1
]
;B[ds]
;W[er]C[hadlar [5d?\]: p1 works, stop being lazy and read
ogre [2d?\]: "p1 doesnt work" after people give sequences is trolling
]
;B[bq]C[eatramen [22k\]: if kang comes back from this she is the bestest!
Q161 [?\]: it doesnt
Warfreak2 [4d\]: p1 doesn't work
Q161 [?\]: give me a sequence
nasnad [2d\]: haha
snes [-\]: she is for real qith that
Q161 [?\]: ladder does not work
loler [4d\]: lol
NotAfraid [3d\]: b is the god of go
epoxygal [3k\]: awww
elvard [2k\]: hmm ?
taiji [2d\]: what is this?
nasnad [2d\]: it is a special ladder
]
;W[bp]C[DerWitt [2d\]: wow ko
]
;B[ar]C[epoxygal [3k\]: come one....
nasnad [2d\]: just try it
Fenix [?\]: lol
strong10k [-\]: wtf
joej24 [15k\]: b1
elvard [2k\]: b1 and what else ?
idazuwaika [5d\]: ali is jewish.. not arab
joej24 [15k\]: b11b1b1b1b1
hadlar [5d?\]: noooooo kang, even if you lose i still love you!
bdbdbd: ali is an arab name
smartrobot [9d\]: a4
smartrobot [9d\]: no chance
MrTortoise [5k\]: isnt arab  place?
cherisse [1k\]: ali must keep his cool
NotAfraid [3d\]: no
mihi [6d\]: yup,a4 and resign
ogre [2d?\]: she has some awesome idea that i dont know
MrTortoise [5k\]: its not a religion though
epoxygal [3k\]: no way black can pull this off
AhSayuni [4d\]: Arab is a people
alexanderp [?\]: idazuwaika, Ali said himself he is Arab, his mother is teacher of English language. But he is Israeli citizen.
Q161 [?\]: smartrobot, tell them p1 doesnt work for b
MrTortoise [5k\]: my religion is arab
MrTortoise [5k\]: ?
IceSpectre [4k\]: ali is christian arab from israel .. 
kostuek [-\]: b trys some kyu madness
miammiam [2d\]: ok , i was wrong, if P3 , P1 works for balck (I missed N5 during the ladder, doing the ladder in the worng direction)
maze [5d\]: Ali is from Jaffa (near to tel aviv)
Vovka27 [3k\]: she's looking for a big ko threads?
]
;W[bs]C[smartrobot [9d\]: p1 works
]
;B[bo]C[epoxygal [3k\]: who is idazuwaika?
Nilatarion [3d\]: lol
loler [4d\]: lol
loler [4d\]: see
loler [4d\]: ?
Adjutant [?\]: b1 is mistake?
Q161 [?\]: wat.
ogre [2d?\]: ahh smartrobot wheres your robot sense of humor
Jax [10k\]: ko fight again?
elvard [2k\]: c4?
smartrobot [9d\]: maybe a bug in my program?
nasnad [2d\]: :)
]
;W[fm]C[joej24 [15k\]: b1 mistake? ya kidding me?
epoxygal [3k\]: a bug indeed robot
miammiam [2d\]: yes, smartrobot was strong to say it 10 minutes ago ;-)   [missread for O2\]
PatrickP [19k\]: this is intense
Warfreak2 [4d\]: b1 a mistake
SqueezeIt [2d\]: lol robot :)
epoxygal [3k\]: this aji really has no motor
Anubis021 [9k?\]: p1 works
Warfreak2 [4d\]: should kill at a4
FFH [2k\]: who is in buy-oumi?
]
;B[co]C[A1R [4k\]: w
marfg [2k\]: ali is one eye green one eye blue black japanese 
]
;W[br]C[yamashitaK [5d\]: wow warfreak youre good at repeating what 9d said
Adjutant [?\]: joej24, you should see that b1 is not only way to ensure bottom left has 1 eye
MrTortoise [5k\]: yeah punish him on time!
loler [4d\]: nooob kang should resign
Shibui [2d?\]: Is Kang shifting gear?
Maki1 [2k\]: koh
hadlar [5d?\]: i think W is fine still, since if W gets sente to play p3, then the trade favors W
scurge [5d\]:  he was cheated royally :)
mihi [6d\]: ah..why didn't ali play a4?
IceSpectre [4k\]: iliyas game over 
Warfreak2 [4d\]: wow warfreak you're good at repeating what 9d said
AhSayuni [4d\]: at least w still has o2 in place
]
;B[kb]C[JoostC [4d\]: white is getting nervous
joej24 [15k\]: huh really?
]
;W[lb]C[bdbdbd: game over
Adjutant [?\]: yes really
ogre [2d?\]: b getting the yose
epoxygal [3k\]: finish
N4KED [1d\]: I predict that Ms. Kang always wins
]
;B[jb]C[Syptryn [3d\]: this isn't sente...
joej24 [15k\]: how so? 
bdbdbd: time to watch popov vs ilya :)
nasnad [2d\]: b is really sneaky
elvard [2k\]: m17?
Sheeple [?\]: it's sente
taiji [2d\]: GO ALI!!!
cherisse [1k\]: tenuki
nanotech [2k\]: n16
Adjutant [?\]: as smartrobot and others have said, a4 also ensures 1 eye
ogre [2d?\]: m17 h15 
]
;W[je]C[MrTortoise [5k\]: p3
Hellhuman [1d\]: b is  really sucky :> when she saw a4, it means she overplayed, means she suxx
NotAfraid [3d\]: ali cant beat the god
joej24 [15k\]: okay
strong10k [-\]: p1
maze [5d\]: chuck noris can
epoxygal [3k\]: Ali G. come one
joej24 [15k\]: ahh isee it
elvard [2k\]: hmm, nice
]
;B[nq]C[Sheeple [?\]: ugh
AHUEA [2d?\]: lol.
Fenix [?\]: ^^''
AHUEA [2d?\]: lolol.
NotAfraid [3d\]: what
miammiam [2d\]: ah ah
]
;W[os]
;B[mr]C[yamashitaK [5d\]: haha 7d cant read
ogre [2d?\]: boooo
]
;W[oq]C[mihi [6d\]:  P1,P3,O3,P4,P5,O4,N4,O5,N5,O6,N6
alexanderp [?\]: so she didn't saw p1
]
;B[op]C[loler [4d\]: kang so weak
mihi [6d\]: oh
mihi [6d\]: too late
Poney [2d\]: learn to read dudes
hadlar [5d?\]: kang read to res
NorthWind [5k\]: haha, swap declined
epoxygal [3k\]: she likes Ali, thats why
Fenix [?\]: aw need hugs
maze [5d\]: it is pressure
]
;W[md]
;B[ld]
;W[lc]C[ogre [2d?\]: kang stopped reading that part
Poney [2d\]: it doesnt work
Zitrone [1k\]: if p1 white have p5
Zitrone [1k\]: perhaps bigger
]
;B[do]C[nasnad [2d\]: p5 is nothing
Fenix [?\]: oO
loler [4d\]: p5 just p3
Shibui [2d?\]: With a good beat 'White sixty seconds more time' could be a major dance hit
ogre [2d?\]: oh i see
ogre [2d?\]: she wanted sente
bdbdbd: lol shibu
nanotech [2k\]: e5
taiji [2d\]: gone into suicide mode
mihi [6d\]: R18?
Fredegas [4d\]: r18 first
]
;W[qb]C[MrTortoise [5k\]: e5 lets b get the ko at a4
]
;B[ap]C[StefanRadu [1k\]: r18 hilarious:)
]
;W[aq]
;B[pb]
;W[pa]C[Hellhuman [1d\]: n16?^^'
]
;B[bq]C[cherisse [1k\]: i'm scared that ali will lose :(
Hellhuman [1d\]: flower ko o_O
ogre [2d?\]: whats going on
bdbdbd: no ko
fekand3 [1d\]: c4
Maki1 [2k\]: just c4
Hellhuman [1d\]: oh,
Hellhuman [1d\]: k14 xD
adiida [3k\]: c1
ogre [2d?\]: is that transcription error?
MrTortoise [5k\]: c4 e4
]
;W[cp]C[Syptryn [3d\]: insn't K-14 kinda big?
]
;B[ep]C[elvard [2k\]: c4 and e4 and c1
]
;W[aq]
;B[ef]C[smartrobot [9d\]: why both of them missed p1?
cherisse [1k\]: huh?
]
;W[gg]
;B[bq]C[elvard [2k\]: maybe you missed?
Shedal [2d\]: what the heck is going on...
NotAfraid [3d\]: oyu missed it to robot
yamashitaK [5d\]: nervous
]
;W[cs]C[SqueezeIt [2d\]: res
Eilinen [-\]: smartrobot, because they want to
Sheeple [?\]: smartrobot's bug infected them
NotAfraid [3d\]: you*
Am [5d\]: b is behind?
cherisse [1k\]: oh nothing
NotAfraid [3d\]: XD
]
;B[im]C[ogre [2d?\]: yea i guess kang 100% fixated on this ko
Eilinen [-\]: more intresting this way
miammiam [2d\]: K14 is huge yes
bdbdbd: w take corner,over
NorthWind [5k\]: W low on time. B making him suffer
mihi [6d\]: only b missed p1,w would have played P3
Syptryn [3d\]: errr
any1 [?\]: s17
Q161 [?\]: but w played o2
Syptryn [3d\]: S-17 huge
Fenix [?\]: s17?
IstTengen [3k\]: ali missed it, maybe kang was confident that ali read it right?
Q161 [?\]: so he missed pw also
fekand3 [1d\]: n16
Q161 [?\]: p1
mihi [6d\]: K14
slim76 [2d\]: s16
Syptryn [3d\]: K-14 too...
AhSayuni [4d\]: s16 looks big
]
;W[rd]C[Q161 [?\]: k14 om nom nom
]
;B[rc]
;W[qc]C[cherisse [1k\]: why w ignoring it?
Fenix [?\]: j-j-j-jump!
Am [5d\]: artem & csaba didnt finished yet?
]
;B[qd]
;W[rb]
;B[re]C[miammiam [2d\]: game is now deeply lost for black :-(
Fenix [?\]: K14
mihi [6d\]: N16
MrTortoise [5k\]: yeah
AhSayuni [4d\]: k14 now?
MrTortoise [5k\]: k14
maze [5d\]: k14 
Maki1 [2k\]: n16 is such a flower ko
goIngo [?\]: manyfaces: 95 % white
Q161 [?\]: k14 nowwww
bdbdbd: game lost since n11
cherisse [1k\]: kang should have resigned now it ends dirty
]
;W[md]C[MrTortoise [5k\]: gaem lost since m15 tbh
F525 [15k\]: Why not just K14?
elvard [2k\]: can someone clone this game somewhere and show, how p1 works for black?
AhSayuni [4d\]: never resign!
A1R [4k\]: ali has to be promoted 6D !
Fredegas [4d\]: he doesnt see k14? :P
]
;B[ek]
;W[el]C[DanielTom [5d\]: B is captured anyway
]
;B[mc]C[zife [-\]: elvard, someone gave the sequence
nanotech [2k\]: wff is this?
Fenix [?\]: lo wut
DanielTom [5d\]: k14 now
]
;W[jf]C[maze [5d\]: lol
Fredegas [4d\]: ok, he does :D
Hellhuman [1d\]: b suxx^^'
Fenix [?\]: someone slap kang
AhSayuni [4d\]: so many mistakes are done in the end...
Luna86 [9k\]: resign
Maki1 [2k\]: mwuhahahahahahahahahaha
Maki1 [2k\]: Ilya must be loving this
Shedal [2d\]: ok, today it's not Kang playing, but her evil kyu sister!!
StefanRadu [1k\]: this calls for the resignation
bdbdbd: q12 to add insult to injury
abcdefghi2: time for a ninja smokebomb and escape through the window
DangoMango [2k\]: n16 and self atari!
miammiam [2d\]: because too intensive hard reading before. the fights in the middle were hard to read.
Shibui [2d?\]: I could play that...
taiji [2d\]: Harry, please give Ali a high-5 after this!
Cornelius [1d\]: xD
Q161 [?\]: never seen so many dead kang stones
Sheeple [?\]: w far ahead now
strong10k [-\]: w + 28
goIngo [?\]: manyfaces: 7 % for black
Maki1 [2k\]: game over, w is rock solid
DanielTom [5d\]: W+30
Eilinen [-\]: duh
DanielTom [5d\]: Kang lost hehe
Eilinen [-\]: why someone like w win
ogre [2d?\]: enough about manyfaces
Syptryn [3d\]: black made so many mistakes
Syptryn [3d\]: L-18
eatramen [22k\]: hadlar u jinxed kang because you called ali a noob
gfdhff [4k\]: roln won >?
smartrobot [9d\]: my se is right =)
Syptryn [3d\]: was such bad yose
kostuek [-\]: p1 was ko?
bdbdbd: b cuter, but still lose
Koukkaaja [3d\]: b helped w to win many times
onegoal [3k\]: kang thinking: "damn they told me the european players are weak, I just came to have a goo d time"
Shedal [2d\]: Pat Kang's back, someone..
DanielTom [5d\]: Ilya is still playing
mFz [3k\]: i dont understand black plan with m13 grp 20move ago :/
DerWitt [2d\]: 95% for w and 7% for b?
Sheeple [?\]: ilya just finished
alexanderp [?\]: no, DT.
nasnad [2d\]: ilia won
alexanderp [?\]: Ilya won +6.5
ogre [2d?\]: maby kang lost her composure after the blunder
bdbdbd: ali not european, onegoal
Maki1 [2k\]: Kang had a won game after about 20 moves
hadlar [5d?\]: ilya now #1
mihi [6d\]: Cornel still playing?
goIngo [?\]: 95 and 7 fits rather well
DanielTom [5d\]: oh, Ilya won by 6 points
ogre [2d?\]: you can make more mistakes afer you make one
cherisse [1k\]: awesome!
crizz [2k\]: cornel lost
DanielTom [5d\]: so Ilya is no.1 again
smartrobot [9d\]: where is ali from?
cherisse [1k\]: will that be ali vs illia next?
bdbdbd: israel
A1R [4k\]: israel
hadlar [5d?\]: lol
Eilinen [-\]: lol
Eilinen [-\]: : D
hadlar [5d?\]: kang gives ali a mean look
DerWitt [2d\]: jaffa tel aviv
Eilinen [-\]: israel
Eilinen [-\]: ...
Fenix [?\]: lul
ww [?\]: if artem did not win, ilya is alone in the lead
ww [?\]: with number of wins at top
goIngo [?\]: is white still thinking?
DerWitt [2d\]: which place is kang?
NotAfraid [3d\]: go israel!
DanielTom [5d\]: she resigned
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w wins by resignation
Shedal [2d\]: YES!!!!
Sando [-\]: coucou Gui plop Simplet
Maki1 [2k\]: maybe a European will win the open tournament after all
adiida [3k\]: ilia might have to play Cornel 
DanielTom [5d\]: Ali died
goIngo [?\]: congrats to Ali !
Fenix [?\]: rotfl @ ali
hadlar [5d?\]: don't worry kang!!! i still love you!!!
simplet [2d\]: yop
N4KED [1d\]: where?
loler [4d\]: b resign?
DanielTom [5d\]: EuroGoTV, say congrats to Ali for us!!!
Q161 [?\]: GO ALIIII
taiji [2d\]: poooooor kang ;(
Oleksandr [1k\]: оце то він проганяє під час партії)
alexanderp [?\]: Ilya played Cornel or not? Jabarin?
Shedal [2d\]: Can we give Ali a KGS chat high five?
Shibui [2d?\]: What a game!
joej24 [15k\]: woooo
Maki1 [2k\]: Gongrats and well done!!!
Q161 [?\]: say kgs says congrats
joej24 [15k\]: wowoww
AhSayuni [4d\]: :DD
Wagaboo [10k\]: is it the end?
DerWitt [2d\]: and "I love you" from hadlar to kang
A1R [4k\]: kang looks sad ~~
eatramen [22k\]: two more rounds left kang still can win!
Wagaboo [10k\]: ali won?
Fenix [?\]: aw
NorthWind [5k\]: I am stunned. so bad by B
kentia [3k\]: ooh aah
CatalinKGS [5k?\]: Wow!
DanielTom [5d\]: Ilya must be really happy!
Maki1 [2k\]: Kang is devastated
simplet [2d\]: lol the i
ogre [2d?\]: its interesting they made mistakes like that
CatalinKGS [5k?\]: Happy end for Ali?
CatalinKGS [5k?\]: :)
DerWitt [2d\]: how is ali doing? which place is he?
hadlar [5d?\]: kang looks so down
bdbdbd: stream not working for me, can someone take picture of Kang and upload plase?
Fenix [?\]: kang looks like "omg"
Am [5d\]: what about artem? is he playing still?
hadlar [5d?\]: beating herself up for her play
Shibui [2d?\]: And now all, BACK TO WORK!
Q161 [?\]: kang so sad
bdbdbd: take pic please
bdbdbd: or video
hadlar [5d?\]: i just wanna give her a hug :**(
grumpyjoe [-\]: hehe, just go to her site
BobDole123 [1k\]: STOP BASHING ON KANG
ogre [2d?\]: she can handle being lost
alexanderp [?\]: and now she smiles
bdbdbd: no, pic from now
DerWitt [2d\]: she has a site?
ogre [2d?\]: that is part of go
loler [4d\]: better player won
sinshou [-\]: she gave up
F525 [15k\]: Kang resigned?
avio [2d\]: w+r
eatramen [22k\]: she knows she should have beat ali
loler [4d\]: is w oohaah?
adiida [3k\]: what did Cornel do?
joej24 [15k\]: what was teh approx score?
Shedal [2d\]: That was LEGEN... wait for it... it's coming... almost there... DARY!!!!!!!!!!!!
alexanderp [?\]: She looks so much better without eyeglasses
grumpyjoe [-\]: http://www.baduklessons.com/
Q161 [?\]: DONT WRITE ON THE BOARDS KANG
AhSayuni [4d\]: that's right loler
Q161 [?\]: every time
Q161 [?\]: bad manners
adiida [3k\]:  what did Cornel do?
loler [4d\]: why?
erikk [-\]: there are many pictures at eurogotv.com
crizz [2k\]: cornel lost
loler [4d\]: the board doesnt care
Q161 [?\]: ALI DONT
DanielTom [5d\]: Ali did so well
bdbdbd: really erikk? cheers
adiida [3k\]:  what did Cornel do?
Q161 [?\]: only ilya takes the paper off the board
strong10k [-\]: white played very solid
cherisse [1k\]: congrats ali!
loler [4d\]: w is oohaah???????????
crizz [2k\]: cornel lost
Q161 [?\]: yes
AhSayuni [4d\]: yes...
DanielTom [5d\]: Prince Ali, mighty is he
grumpyjoe [-\]: good game to both
eatramen [22k\]: did artem win?
losambo [2d\]: did artem win?
Shedal [2d\]: Artem was winning, someone said that
bdbdbd: now ali has strength to free palestine :)
grumpyjoe [-\]: although i will smack ali in the face if i ever see him
DanielTom [5d\]: what about alex?
eatramen [22k\]: wow now everyone is buffin ali's.... kang haters
NorthWind [5k\]: good game ???
NorthWind [5k\]: no way
bdbdbd: ali will be the new age david :)
hadlar [5d?\]: kang is still #1 in my heart!
bdbdbd: vs goliath
svrcd [?\]: ali is next euro champion? ))
eatramen [22k\]: same here hadar!
eatramen [22k\]: *l
strong10k [-\]: i wanted kang to lose because too many kgs fanboys for her
gdghgjd [2d\]: youth is dominating
eatramen [22k\]: your just a hater :p
hadlar [5d?\]: ya
Shedal [2d\]: hadlar, now you see? All of your complains about the title name were useless
hadlar [5d?\]: haters gonna hate
loler [4d\]: kang too weak
onegoal [3k\]: i want her to lose so her lessons become cheaper
Shedal [2d\]: You should've waited until Kang won
hadlar [5d?\]: cause their hatin ways be so hateful
loler [4d\]: lose to many euro noobss
bdbdbd: lol onegoal
DanielTom [5d\]: did Dinerchtein win?
wysek [1k?\]: I wonder if Kang is going to be transmitted tomorrow
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+R
AhSayuni [4d\]: Hadlar, didn't you mean Haldar?
maze [5d\]: lol
BALLZ [3k\]: ali no chance vs ilya or artem
vannab [3k\]: thanks EuroGo!
StefanRadu [1k\]: what did artem?
AhSayuni [4d\]: Ali has beaten Artem before
Bruno [1d\]: her prices are too high
Shedal [2d\]: Ali beat Artem on the european youth championship
strong10k [-\]: too many kgs fanboys act like they have never seen a girl in their life before
eatramen [22k\]: kang still has a chance of winning the tourney, two rounds left
BALLZ [3k\]: that was before artem went to study go?
glint [-\]: thx Harry and Liselot
bdbdbd: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
eatramen [22k\]: strong it doesnt matter, it mostly for fun and how many cute girls play go anyways, stop hating
ogre [2d?\]: b was so far ahead early in the game
ogre [2d?\]: its really hard to win a won game
bdbdbd: nice pic: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Photos&picasafotomapnaam=EGC2010FiDay10
strong10k [-\]: white was never that behind
wysek [1k?\]: but it's easier than winning a lost game
strong10k [-\]: his moves were very solid
Am [5d\]: somebody know about other games? (dinerstein, caralin, csaba)\\
bdbdbd: hmm, the eurogo url system is retarded, no paste-able links
bdbdbd: read lesson #1 of website design, guys at eurogo!
ogre [2d?\]: w was never behind? are you insane?
ogre [2d?\]: b was very ahead 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: just rightclick on the photo for the adres smartass
hadlar [5d?\]: ya B was ahead up until she let the left get cut off
hadlar [5d?\]: her having to gote life that caused her center problems, and then when she forced a ko she had no real threat
ogre [2d?\]: i think it was moment of insanity
hadlar [5d?\]: so that lost her the game
ogre [2d?\]: game was too boring for her until then
bdbdbd: eurogo: lesson #1 would be, things should be obvious lol!
bdbdbd: but thanks for proving my point
ogre [2d?\]: maybe she felt bad to destroy ali so bad
loler [4d\]: ali too strong for her
hadlar [5d?\]: nah
hadlar [5d?\]: ali is weak
bdbdbd: ali a but lucky, but fair
hadlar [5d?\]: compared to her
hadlar [5d?\]: ali got really lucky i'd say
hadlar [5d?\]: B's fuseki was definitely superior
loler [4d\]: so what if she sucked the rest of the game
hadlar [5d?\]: nah she was a victim of circumstance
hadlar [5d?\]: cause she had no threat
DanielTom [5d\]: hadlar, Ali could give you five stones and win easily
hadlar [5d?\]: lol
Alternate [?\]: did artem win?
hadlar [5d?\]: i doubt that very much
ogre [2d?\]: and ilia is sick
bdbdbd: daniel = ali fanboy maybe? :)
hadlar [5d?\]: probably
DanielTom [5d\]: not really, I don't like Ali much
ogre [2d?\]: but. i still hope ilia wins the tournament this year
ogre [2d?\]: even though i root for kang
Am [5d\]: what about artem?
DanielTom [5d\]: Kang, on the other hand, has funs because of her face
DanielTom [5d\]: fans*
loler [4d\]: i hope artem wins
hadlar [5d?\]: kang is strong above all else
loler [4d\]: ilya has already won
loler [4d\]: egc
loler [4d\]: its artems turn])