(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[9000]OT[1x60 byo-yomi]
GN[54 European Go Congress Tampere, Finland, board 2 round 3]PW[Csaba Mero]PB[Kyoung-nang Kang]WR[6d]BR[7d]DT[2010-07-27]RO[3]PC[Tampere, Finland]US[Liselotte]C[cherisse [1k\]: oh csaba on kgs :)
cherisse [1k\]: go kang!
A1R [4k\]: my is there no picture in the stream?
A1R [4k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2   =    black stream
scurge [5d\]: i think csaba will win
Darg [3d\]: wtf
N4KED [1d\]: it works now
snowman [-\]: If anybody's interested, the pairings are up: http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-pairing-r3.txt
scurge [5d\]: did the time start?
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;B[dc]
;W[cp]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ondra =D
A1R [4k\]: where is she now?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: toilet
A1R [4k\]: ok
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;B[pp]C[o3epo [1k\]: EuroGoTV, Ilya Shickshinny who plays?
WorldCop [2k\]: he plays ali jabarin
rmod [-\]: do the tournment games really last 5 hours sometimes?
jwc [-\]: Shickshinny :)
o3epo [1k\]: thanks
A1R [4k\]: if they enter byo-yomi yes
WorldCop [2k\]: i bet 100 kgs moneys on black
nhanh [1k\]: who is kyonung?
rmod [-\]: I understand that in theory it could happen I'm talking about in practice though
A1R [4k\]: korean ex-insei
nhanh [1k\]: where is he livng?
A1R [4k\]: netherlands
nhanh [1k\]: thnx
falientje [7k?\]: she lives in the netherlands for a while, but she normally lives in Korea
A1R [4k\]: do you know her, falientje?
kenshin9 [5k\]: aah i wish my named ryhmed thatd be so cool
falientje [7k?\]: yes
kenshin9 [5k\]: do they get breaks?
Princessb [1k\]: whites clock must be running....
kenshin9 [5k\]: i could not sit still for 2 and a half hours
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;W[qd]C[scurge [5d\]: who is broadcasting? Oo seems he know me :p
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;B[od]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: liselot
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: SHE not a he
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;W[qf]C[Princessb [1k\]: wow, I would play with Kang any day of the week ;)
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;B[qc]
;W[rc]C[scurge [5d\]: ah hi :) don't mess up the broadcast :p 
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;B[pc]
;W[rb]
;B[kc]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: hahahahha
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i know
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i'm afraid i will
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;W[cf]
;B[eq]C[RamenBoya [4d\]: hehe, shes watching him!
nanotech [2k\]: she is pro isn't she??
Princessb [1k\]: no, 7d
nanotech [2k\]: she already won this one quite easy
st21 [-\]: this typical kgs game
st21 [-\]: easy vip points :)
daredevil [1d?\]: cornel blundered away his game against her, messing up a late game ko
aertan [4k\]: where do you bet?
nanotech [2k\]: cornel ended like 5kyu!
R1D1 [17k\]: wemen left table in both games, wtf
daredevil [1d?\]: he almost blew it against breakfast in round 1 too
R1D1 [17k\]: Switching the Stream Tabs sure is funny right now ^^
Princessb [1k\]: he almost lost his breakfast ;)
jim [6d\]: I bet on Csaba
daredevil [1d?\]: jim! i like your playing style
Princessb [1k\]: I would take money off you if you were here, jim.
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;W[hp]C[RamenBoya [4d\]: most strong korean players seem like that to me in korea
praeludium [5d\]: it's tough 
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;B[dh]C[Princessb [1k\]: b looks sleepy
sayona [6k\]: what's her number?
Princessb [1k\]: lol
sayona [6k\]: can u ask her
Princessb [1k\]: she already has a date
sayona [6k\]: what do you drive?
Princessb [1k\]: not with me, with Csaba
sayona [6k\]: well, after this game
sayona [6k\]: what are they reading..
sayona [6k\]: just play e14
kenshin9 [5k\]: this looks complicated O,O
sayona [6k\]: d10
kenshin9 [5k\]: why is 6d white?
RamenBoya [4d\]: even games
sayona [6k\]: there are some white 6ds
kenshin9 [5k\]: oh
RamenBoya [4d\]: how can it be fair otherwise
RamenBoya [4d\]: lol
sayona [6k\]: some are even 7ds
praeludium [5d\]: you'll see
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;W[dq]C[just9x9 [-\]: omg
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;B[do]C[kenshin9 [5k\]: gm
Loons [4k\]: oopsie :P
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;W[dp]C[RamenBoya [4d\]: whatever man
Princessb [1k\]: hmmm
nhanh [1k\]: what happended?
]
;B[fo]
;W[eo]C[gdghgjd [2d\]: is this joseki?
kenshin9 [5k\]: no
kenshin9 [5k\]: w in better position imo
Isobeutel [4k\]: they inveting a new one right now...
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;B[en]C[just9x9 [-\]: e4 :)
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;W[ep]
;B[fn]
;W[fp]
;B[de]C[kenshin9 [5k\]: look at b...
RamenBoya [4d\]: e 6 is very interesting
RamenBoya [4d\]: looks awful for b, but maybe shell show us stuff :)
kenshin9 [5k\]: got tiny wall ):
]
;W[df]
;B[ef]
;W[ce]
;B[dd]C[RamenBoya [4d\]: maybe something impressive out of her experience
kenshin9 [5k\]: invade!
A1R [4k\]: she is always wachting into the cam
RamenBoya [4d\]: the cam likes her ^^
Isobeutel [4k\]: b seems to have some kinda paranoia...
A1R [4k\]: xD
praeludium [5d\]: looks like she enjoys playing crazy things
Fenix [?\]: come on orange dude, talk to her!
Isobeutel [4k\]: lol
Isobeutel [4k\]: too shy...
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: orange dude is dutch 7d playing against Catalin
sesbes [3k?\]: She plays so fast. Does she also play like this against pros?
RamenBoya [4d\]: what she's doing makes sense:
RamenBoya [4d\]: save her energy, think only after he plays, cuz thinking about all the other stuff that might not happen is a waste of energy
RamenBoya [4d\]: some players can become very tired by the end of the game, at least enough to make blunders
just9x9 [-\]: how did you make it to 4d may i ask?
RamenBoya [4d\]: i dunno, i dedicate myself to the game
RamenBoya [4d\]: play stronger players, review, and study joseki etc.
Princessb [1k\]: how old were you when you first learned to play, Ramen?
just9x9 [-\]: penetrate a position by resading its hidden possibilities might have been part of it though?
RamenBoya [4d\]: 17, and im 20 now
Princessb [1k\]: cool, well done. Wish I could have learned this game when I was 7
tapir [1d\]: the games of cornel are probably proving ramenboyas point (becoming tired towards the end)
RamenBoya [4d\]: i get the feeling b knows what shes doing here.  bottom left was strange, but the whole board looks ok for b
RamenBoya [4d\]: not 7, 17
Princessb [1k\]: there is absolutely no doubt that b knows what she is doing.
Loons [4k\]: I think the point stands, we wish we'd learnt to play at 7
RamenBoya [4d\]: ive only played 10-14 tournaments, mostly small, but that experience is enough to know this
RamenBoya [4d\]: yes, me too~
Princessb [1k\]: Yes, Ramen I know. Loons has got the point ;)
Vilikki [12k\]: from nothing to 4d in 3 years? You must've put a lot of hours in go in that time
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;W[ch]
;B[ci]C[Isobeutel [4k\]: Dinerstein was watching...
RamenBoya [4d\]: i played a lot, and right now im very serious, putting off university to try to become strong first
]
;W[di]C[A1R [4k\]: ah i know why she is looking into the cam.....she worked for baduktv so...kinda adaption:)
Princessb [1k\]: wow.... I would prioritize university
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;B[eh]C[RamenBoya [4d\]: everyone has their own personal priorities
Loons [4k\]: I think prioritizing happiness is a good goal
RamenBoya [4d\]: i care nothing about following the normal route
Vilikki [12k\]: well said
Princessb [1k\]: yes, good for you to follow your dream
RamenBoya [4d\]: mmhmm
praeludium [5d\]: go can't bring you hapiness 
RamenBoya [4d\]: of course it can bring me happeness, haha
Fenix [?\]: it's not a bad idea prioritizing to get stronger imho. i dont think you're doing anything wrong there, you can use your age to your advantage this way much more effectively
Princessb [1k\]: then why play?
nanotech [2k\]: it is going to be short game????
praeludium [5d\]: only distraction 
Koukkaaja [3d\]: in go you can get a good life
RamenBoya [4d\]: for YOU :)
Princessb [1k\]: we all need some distraction
praeludium [5d\]: I was in the same case of you ramenboya 
praeludium [5d\]: putting off university for go 
RamenBoya [4d\]: if go is only a game for you, like tetris, then sure, jsut a distraction
praeludium [5d\]: I started at 17 I am 20 
just9x9 [-\]: dont talk of distraction here pls, i should work right now...
Wagaboo [11k\]: ^^ i would work
MBartelt [3k\]: Happiness come from loving what you do, and doing that what you love with awareness and not from ur mind of whats good or bad 
Isobeutel [4k\]: i think it is curious how fast b plays... like she is kinda bored or something...
RamenBoya [4d\]: there are many good reasons for what im doing
praeludium [5d\]: but when you come back to reality 
Loons [4k\]: probably misclick
Wagaboo [11k\]: some players love be in bad position and surpass them
MBartelt [3k\]: i support ramenboya ^^ good on you to follow the path of happiness not enough people do it and they get stuck in jobs they hate, in a life they dont enjoy
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no just analysing what happened 
Princessb [1k\]: I normally get myself into such a good position that I lose my concentration...
Wagaboo [11k\]: mis click is horrible on internet go
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no miss click
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: no worries
RamenBoya [4d\]: thanks
Loons [4k\]: I think the urgency of reducing top is going to force white to make sacrifices in the lower right
Isobeutel [4k\]:  i think it is curious how fast b plays... like she is kinda bored or something...
Princessb [1k\]: sleepy
Isobeutel [4k\]: or that
Princessb [1k\]: I think she has a plan and feels she has everything under control
Koukkaaja [3d\]: all the striking finns in tampere might have something to do with bs fast play
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;W[cj]
;B[bi]C[Princessb [1k\]: wow
Isobeutel [4k\]: she isnt even seriously reading out the board.... just looking through the room...
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;W[bh]C[Princessb [1k\]: she already read the board
R1D1 [17k\]: How much time left for each?
RamenBoya [4d\]: ladder maybe?
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;B[bj]C[Princessb [1k\]: ooo ah
alizeee: Gu Li beat Lee Chang-Ho a moment ago
epoxygal [3k\]: alizee is so cute!
RamenBoya [4d\]: i think w is destroyed here
Princessb [1k\]: She is trying to stay awake with coffee
Princessb [1k\]: yes, this looks like a train wreck, and she did not even have to think...
A1R [4k\]: really, alizee?
epoxygal [3k\]: where to see video?
alizeee: yes
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;W[ck]C[just9x9 [-\]: http://www.eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
epoxygal [3k\]: thx
just9x9 [-\]: must have login but its free
epoxygal [3k\]: got it. thx.
A1R [4k\]: is that pro in background?
Isobeutel [4k\]: she yawns.... lol. cute.
R1D1 [17k\]: word
alizeee: Gu Li win the strongist Meijin
epoxygal [3k\]: that tea sponsor is the same one for wmsg
just9x9 [-\]: i dont get b here. sacrificing 3 for center influence or really planning to crawl second line?
epoxygal [3k\]: maybe planning a semeai
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;B[bk]C[cherisse [1k\]: crazy way of living inside, unimaginable for a kyu :(
epoxygal [3k\]: if black wants top, she dun have to turn at B10
Princessb [1k\]: b has already lost here
Princessb [1k\]: sorry, w
Honinboss [3k\]: is b female?
Princessb [1k\]: look at the video
sesbes [3k?\]: did black have the move D10 followed by D9 threaten ladder?
just9x9 [-\]: yes
ChrisHH [4d\]: b could have played D10, d11 and then a laddeer
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;W[cl]C[Princessb [1k\]: b just needs to stretch out and can then kill B12
just9x9 [-\]: (yes, female)
sesbes [3k?\]: If black played D9 then I assume white could  have linked under
sesbes [3k?\]: I mean after b9,  ladder starts, connect under for white
RamenBoya [4d\]: no
RamenBoya [4d\]: connect liek that terrible
ChrisHH [4d\]: yes but thats a terrible result
Wagaboo [11k\]: how is the cut D10?
R1D1 [17k\]: doesn't work i think
zizu [-\]: if someone likes to beat asians, its csaba
ChrisHH [4d\]: now b has to crawl and it will take many moves to capture thw w group
kenshin9 [5k\]: i count w with at least 8 libs
epoxygal [3k\]: yes chris... and black destroys her own family the F6 stones. 
sesbes [3k?\]: So why didn't black play like that threatening ladder?
ChrisHH [4d\]: i would play tenuki now
ChrisHH [4d\]: at least B has many Ko-Threats;)
epoxygal [3k\]: i will probably squeeze top right at R12
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;B[bl]C[epoxygal [3k\]: but i am 3k :)
gdghgjd [2d\]: can white live with b17 locally?
RamenBoya [4d\]: something like.... b 8, c 7, c6, b 7, b6, a7, d10, e11, d9
RamenBoya [4d\]: if next wd8, b f11
R1D1 [17k\]: is the guy in orange also playing?
zizu [-\]: its rob
]
;W[cm]
;B[cn]
;W[bm]
;B[bn]C[RamenBoya [4d\]: yes
RamenBoya [4d\]: my sequence works
RamenBoya [4d\]: if w tries to kill now, owned badly
RamenBoya [4d\]: in fact
RamenBoya [4d\]: w is destroyedf
kenshin9 [5k\]: why not a 8?
Princessb [1k\]: I susbect w is pwned
RamenBoya [4d\]: a8 same
RamenBoya [4d\]: b d 10
RamenBoya [4d\]: and gg
alizeee: Gu Li beat Lee Chang-Ho and won the World Meijin
A1R [4k\]: we got it :)
RamenBoya [4d\]: i feel sorry for csaba now, game over i think
Koukkaaja [3d\]: who said that f6 wall is tiny
kenshin9 [5k\]: ._.
hagsaeng10 [2d?\]: w can try to kill f6 stones
RamenBoya [4d\]: i tried forgetting about local loss of points, and looked over whole board
RamenBoya [4d\]: black had some promise that way
Nighthawk [6d\]: a7
Nighthawk [6d\]: a6))
happydog [7k\]: Watching b play reminds me of http://www.wowhead.com/item=2291/ ... 
Dexihno [6k\]: a6 working
happydog [7k\]: Awesome play, nice record. My new hero this Kang.
WorldCop [2k\]: still leaves d10
happydog [7k\]: *heroine
hidalgo2: no drugs here please
Princessb [1k\]: awsome to win a game like this and hardly spend any time thinking
RamenBoya [4d\]: oh, 16
RamenBoya [4d\]: hmmm
RamenBoya [4d\]: a6*
kenshin9 [5k\]: b5?
Princessb [1k\]: b5 = resign
epoxygal [3k\]: white can have compensation in the corner because of black's D6 weakness
RamenBoya [4d\]: even if a6, i believe the final result is very fail for w
WorldCop [2k\]: who was the photo guy?
RamenBoya [4d\]: a6, b can start doing stuff at d 10, w extend, then f 11
epoxygal [3k\]: then all white gotto do is to live the top left with two eyes, then reduce's black's top potential. that';s all. lol
RamenBoya [4d\]: .....
RamenBoya [4d\]: lol
RamenBoya [4d\]: need a lot of sente for that
epoxygal [3k\]: lol.... quite a tight spot for white now...
koha [1d\]: yes, the ladder favours black so very hard to see how white gets out of this
Princessb [1k\]: w is sorry he got out of bed this morning
epoxygal [3k\]: my 3k level tells me that the best white can do is to get a good corner by killing the B5, C6 stones...
koha [1d\]: how does white do that?
Princessb [1k\]: must be some supper 3k who can kill those stones...
coolPizz [1k\]: I think he's right
erikk [-\]: start with d7?
tvirlip [3k?\]: Well, if W kills C6 it's definitely will be the best. :)
koha [1d\]: D7 does seem best
epoxygal [3k\]: i think white can kill them
nanotech [2k\]: will it? b has too much advantage
RamenBoya [4d\]: w a 6 leads to it
RamenBoya [4d\]: but black awesome elsewhere
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;W[al]C[epoxygal [3k\]: yes... black will be super everywhere....
Stefany93 [15k\]: What nationality is Mero?
epoxygal [3k\]: hungary
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;B[dj]C[epoxygal [3k\]: i almost typed hungry
kenshin9 [5k\]: heh a8 i was right
Stefany93 [15k\]: thank you
A1R [4k\]: does it work?
Stefany93 [15k\]: and the felame is japanse I guess :D
kenshin9 [5k\]: no
Stefany93 [15k\]: female*
A1R [4k\]: korean
Stefany93 [15k\]: aaa
nanotech [2k\]: now wall will go over the middle of the board
epoxygal [3k\]: dot tell me white wants to link back. lol
kenshin9 [5k\]: w rereading
RamenBoya [4d\]: god no
NschoTschi [-\]: b making huge moyo now
Princessb [1k\]: this is such a gorgeous result for b
Stefany93 [15k\]: Where the hungarian went?
koha [1d\]: I guess white D7 still
kenshin9 [5k\]: see wat happens when u let weaker player be w xD
WorldCop [2k\]: she's very dark for a korean no? where does she live?
A1R [4k\]: nl
Princessb [1k\]: sunny summer in nl I guess
WorldCop [2k\]: huh
Stefany93 [15k\]: Where the hungarian went? Myabe he is too afraid
epoxygal [3k\]: i like the chinese girl zhang something better. cuter
WorldCop [2k\]: but weaker :)
sesbes [3k?\]: This is the same ladder idea, right?
sesbes [3k?\]: And white has to connect under and then live with B17?
RamenBoya [4d\]: nono
RamenBoya [4d\]: conenct under no good
RamenBoya [4d\]: resign instead then
boatlord [6d\]: something like extend and then f12
epoxygal [3k\]: yes.... csaba wont connect under, please
sesbes [3k?\]: But what else if connect under is no good?
Stefany93 [15k\]: Mero is dead maybe :(
Stefany93 [15k\]: he is gone
RamenBoya [4d\]: its a bit complicated
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;W[ei]C[Muscadet [?\]: d7 - exchange
RamenBoya [4d\]: w might resign soon if he gets destroyed
RamenBoya [4d\]: resign is better than a 11 connect
zizu [-\]: is that so bad for white?
WorldCop [2k\]: mero is really annoyed at himself :)
epoxygal [3k\]: very bad....
cuby [3k?\]: can any strongies here tell the outcome of this local fight?
Princessb [1k\]: w is annoyed and b is bored
]
;B[dk]C[RamenBoya [4d\]: what did i say ^^
Loons [4k\]: E11 dies in a ladder, is this the problem ?
Princessb [1k\]: the outcome will be a huge gain by b
WorldCop [2k\]: maybe w d7?
cuby [3k?\]: cant W just eat B10?
cherisse [1k\]: so confuzzling
N4KED [1d\]: f12 not a ladder breaker?
erikk [-\]: f12 prevents the ladder
]
;W[fh]C[RamenBoya [4d\]: is is justr dead, same sequence i said way earlier =D
RamenBoya [4d\]: white is*
RamenBoya [4d\]: that move doesnt hlp
RamenBoya [4d\]: i believe black can respond
cherisse [1k\]: c11 is goner
cuby [3k?\]: who is csaba on kgs?
]
;B[fi]
;W[ej]C[A1R [4k\]: csaba
]
;B[fg]C[cuby [3k?\]: thnx
un [2k\]: "csaba" ? :)
epoxygal [3k\]: csaba
epoxygal [3k\]: lol
cherisse [1k\]: the question is, who is kang on kgs!
WorldCop [2k\]: nobody i bet
cuby [3k?\]: she was uju or something
Isobeutel [4k\]: vanq
A1R [4k\]: good one :) but i think she hasnt one
cuby [3k?\]: she used to have one here for sure
RamenBoya [4d\]: is she vanq?
WorldCop [2k\]: needs more slapping
WorldCop [2k\]: still dead
ChrisHH [4d\]: f10
jujitsu [1k\]: this is sick!
Isobeutel [4k\]: i dunno. just guessing random...
jujitsu [1k\]: look at that profit so soon!
WorldCop [2k\]: vanq is a dude afaik
StefanRadu [1k\]: d7 works?\\
cuby [3k?\]: still can't believe cornel lost :(
ChrisHH [4d\]: oh no, than d7
Isobeutel [4k\]: haha
RamenBoya [4d\]: resign
RamenBoya [4d\]: gg
Isobeutel [4k\]: she is worried about her necklage ^^
Xodd [13k\]: did anyone beat vanq yesterday?
cherisse [1k\]: second game i have watched kang lived in a complicated situation, very stong!
Princessb [1k\]: kang never broke a sweat in this game
epoxygal [3k\]: but csaba is not a potatoe
Koukkaaja [3d\]: ladies don't sweat
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;W[ai]
;B[fk]C[Princessb [1k\]: fast..................
WorldCop [2k\]: easy when you read it out 20 minutes ago
Xodd [13k\]: i'd like to see her play blitz
cuby [3k?\]: reading ability is in inverse proportion to length of shorts
cherisse [1k\]: has kang lost a game and vs who?
hgma [?\]: enclose
plusguy [3d\]: F13 was pretty bad :p
holynec [?\]: cuby, please elaborate
epoxygal [3k\]: get the 3 corner stones is the best results for white now... my 3k think
cuby [3k?\]: the math is there for all to see
]
;W[ek]
;B[dl]
;W[aj]C[plusguy [3d\]: why didnt b play D7 instead of F13?
]
;B[el]
;W[ak]C[epoxygal [3k\]: huh
]
;B[fj]
;W[ci]C[cuby [3k?\]: nod +guy
WorldCop [2k\]: wow he connects?
epoxygal [3k\]: huh huh
YesWeKant [2d\]: c11 ?
WorldCop [2k\]: how can he connect?
zhou901108 [1d\]: this is just ownage
holynec [?\]: g12
cherisse [1k\]: why is that?!
cuby [3k?\]: D7 still sente
StefanRadu [1k\]: he connects in sente. now kang has to take at g12
WorldCop [2k\]: sente for like 8 points woohoo
holynec [?\]: h6
cuby [3k?\]: nah she'll eat F12
cherisse [1k\]: kang is laughing inside
cuby [3k?\]: otherwise it's contravention of all go instincts
WorldCop [2k\]: nah, sleeping inside
ikea [2d\]: eat too slow
falloutti [1d?\]: B got super result o_o
]
;B[ke]C[cuby [3k?\]: she's too busy wondering how to make use of all her new KGS virgin-minions
epoxygal [3k\]: HUH?
nyuuhaafu [1k\]: ;D
Isobeutel [4k\]: with tjis thickness, b is happy about every upcoming fight
WorldCop [2k\]: good handicap training for w
]
;W[nq]C[MentalEdge [6k\]: she seems bored ^^
epoxygal [3k\]: why let white eat the 4 stones??
cherisse [1k\]: now now, let's not forget csaba... he reminds me of prison break
scurge [5d\]: white tenukis to D7 i guess.. :/
epoxygal [3k\]: why let white eat them??
cuby [3k?\]: lol prison break indeed
epoxygal [3k\]: huh
]
;B[qn]C[StevenStar [2k\]: d7 worth 21 pts :o 
cuby [3k?\]: hmm why buzzcut your head when you have that much hair!
holynec [?\]: L4
cuby [3k?\]: R9
WorldCop [2k\]: cause it makes him look scarier
WorldCop [2k\]: if you take his stones, he'll beat you up
Isobeutel [4k\]: lool
StevenStar [2k\]: oh 22
cuby [3k?\]: surely he will play on right side
Isobeutel [4k\]: *punch in da face*
WorldCop [2k\]: maybe he'll try some deep invasion on top and die :)
WorldCop [2k\]: then more self-slapping
cuby [3k?\]: nah he'd have done it already
topper [1d\]: k12 mbe?
]
;W[pr]C[cuby [3k?\]: keepin' it solid
]
;B[qh]C[WorldCop [2k\]: steady is good
Princessb [1k\]: solid and steady are no good when you are behind
hidalgo2: is score estimator wrong =?
Xodd [13k\]: tes
Xodd [13k\]: yes
topper [1d\]: SE is always wrong
]
;W[of]C[Bazilikan [2k\]: Score Estimater is always right
just9x9 [-\]: lol se beats it all
R1D1 [17k\]: se rules right now
cherisse [1k\]: slow game compared to the cornel-kang yesterday
just9x9 [-\]: well, a move ago
epoxygal [3k\]: when SE says all of your stones died, that means u have superior thickness and influence
]
;B[pj]C[Bazilikan [2k\]: but we dont have a score estimated we have a score randomiszer
Bazilikan [2k\]: estimater*
WorldCop [2k\]: so i guess this is better than p9 because?
]
;W[kp]C[Wagaboo [11k\]: SE says B+240
]
;B[qq]C[typohh [6k\]: SE is mostly correct in yose
Wagaboo [11k\]: impossible ^^
just9x9 [-\]: se w+368
topper [1d\]: higher looks good with influence
Koukkaaja [3d\]: yes, with r3 b died
cuby [3k?\]: black maybe being too slack?
milarepa [4d\]: try score estimate :)
WorldCop [2k\]: b not a single live stone. sad how weak koreans are nowadays.
Bazilikan [2k\]: i dont have s,e :(
typohh [6k\]: b j6 locally correct?
topper [1d\]: SE lol )
epoxygal [3k\]: not one single living group indeed
epoxygal [3k\]: no 2 eyes anywhere....
lalicoasa [4k\]: w +368.5
smartrobot [9d?\]: how can i review this game from begining?
epoxygal [3k\]: poor black. lol
lalicoasa [4k\]: :)
topper [1d\]: Csaba should be awarded SE-hero prize!
just9x9 [-\]: f12 makes e13 false eye too :)
WorldCop [2k\]: smartrobot: options->view offline
Koukkaaja [3d\]: w should pass to give b a chance
epoxygal [3k\]: click on View Offline
miago [1d\]: options -> clone game
Wagaboo [11k\]: XD
Princessb [1k\]: options and then view offline
RankLower [2d\]: go kang!
NschoTschi [-\]: b seems so much ahead to me
smartrobot [9d?\]: this is no option to view offline
WorldCop [2k\]: it is the 6th option
epoxygal [3k\]: click on Options, then click on View Offline
miago [1d\]: clone game...
bolbi [-\]: smartrobot : download the client to do it
typohh [6k\]: only available in the installed client, not the webpage version
Wagaboo [11k\]: the strongest friend of go players :
chuno [1k\]: u need the client
gdghgjd [2d\]: when I started playing Go someone told me that the amount of captured stones indicates who is leading at the moment
Wagaboo [11k\]: NUTELLA (R)
]
;W[lg]C[freemind [1d\]: clone game in
]
;B[jg]C[NschoTschi [-\]: You can clone it to Egr 
gdghgjd [2d\]: 5:0 for white
]
;W[dm]C[freemind [1d\]: or view offline , either work
NschoTschi [-\]: 5:0?
bolbi [-\]: smartrobot : you are using the applet right now
cuby [3k?\]: D7 woot!
]
;B[hn]C[Princessb [1k\]: d7 big yose
scurge [5d\]: white has lot of points ..
smartrobot [9d?\]: thanks
bolbi [-\]: welcome
cuby [3k?\]: is black banking everything on the top center clump?
epoxygal [3k\]: always feel nice to help a robot
NschoTschi [-\]: play a game and show youre smart^^
st21 [-\]: game will be very close
Wagaboo [11k\]: b to attack m13
Wagaboo [11k\]: later
cherisse [1k\]: b lotsa stones on the center for nothing (yet) ?
RankLower [2d\]: e 7 ?
Hendrix [1k\]: b ahead right?
epoxygal [3k\]: white needs K12
Wagaboo [11k\]: H16 is big moyo ^^
cuby [3k?\]: G12 :D
StevenStar [2k\]: if w has some support pieces on middle part, I think q9... 
cuby [3k?\]: lol shenanigans
epoxygal [3k\]: G12 is asking for trouble. lol
WorldCop [2k\]: hell, handperson
epoxygal [3k\]: K12 is the only move
cuby [3k?\]: Handmaiden will never be found
WorldCop [2k\]: why's the camera turned?
Hendrix [1k\]: h16 more secured than lower white me think
]
;W[il]C[chuno [1k\]: anyone know the time left for each player?
Hendrix [1k\]: a pro would see a ko for life around h16 though :)
cuby [3k?\]: wowzers
aertan [4k\]: fix the camera to the chick... if you have to move it
R1D1 [17k\]: Back to Kang please :<
WorldCop [2k\]: i like this move. go mero!
zizu [-\]: Harry turn right the camera
just9x9 [-\]: b having good time, w having bad time
zizu [-\]: pls
WorldCop [2k\]: harry is on tv1
epoxygal [3k\]: i think white has good chances to win
Wagaboo [11k\]: b K6?
Dino9 [6d\]: g7
cherisse [1k\]: where are the players, i haven't printscreen them yet =(
WorldCop [2k\]: gone into hiding
Vovka27 [3k\]: Eurogo, why the camera shows the Csaba chair now?
Princessb [1k\]: b went out for lunch
WorldCop [2k\]: i would believe it :)
erikk [-\]: eurogo went out for lunch too?
Wagaboo [11k\]: to luch some stones?
sesbes [3k?\]: What's white's idea? F8 cut and then G8?
R1D1 [17k\]: wtf switched clothes
WorldCop [2k\]: more likely got rid of sweater
WorldCop [2k\]: which you can still see on the chair
R1D1 [17k\]: it was magic :O
WorldCop [2k\]: or that :)
cherisse [1k\]: time for iced tea and cupcakes~
NschoTschi [-\]: she so tired
Loons [4k\]: So is the thought that black is more than one dan stronger than Mero ?
]
;B[ip]C[Koukkaaja [3d\]: bank won this round of bets
hidalgo2: its one game dont get too obsessed with ranks
WorldCop [2k\]: someone mentions ranks, bam obsession ;)
scurge [5d\]: J8 is the kind of move you should think of if you want to be strong :)
]
;W[ho]C[epoxygal [3k\]: will 5ds think of moves like J8?
]
;B[io]
;W[in]C[epoxygal [3k\]: or those moves only reserved for 7d and above?
WorldCop [2k\]: why would you want to be strong like mero? does he look happy? :)
]
;B[hq]C[Princessb [1k\]: zomg
Princessb [1k\]: is w territory getting wrecked?
WorldCop [2k\]: points schmoints
Hellhuman [1d\]: is she wearing hotpants again :?
Hendrix [1k\]: this might hurt b
]
;W[gn]
;B[gp]
;W[hm]
;B[go]
;W[hn]C[Princessb [1k\]: this hurts b???
st21 [-\]: what happend?
scurge [5d\]: she play tooo fast
epoxygal [3k\]: too fast..
Hendrix [1k\]: uhh.. hmm. w g3 instead?
Dino9 [6d\]: she play too too fast
]
;B[gq]C[epoxygal [3k\]: she should think a little
WorldCop [2k\]: doesn't seem necessary
epoxygal [3k\]: lol. 3k asking 7d to think. lol
Dino9 [6d\]: when she will think she i slosing she will start to think :)
NschoTschi [-\]: thinkning is overrated
Princessb [1k\]: b looks fine
Darg [3d\]: she's thinking while csaba is thinking
NschoTschi [-\]: d6 needed now?
misjoe [2k\]: coffee is not overrated, hmmm
epoxygal [3k\]: D6 is just yose
Dino9 [6d\]: j3
scurge [5d\]: it will be very unfortunate for white if D6 becomes sente
mihi [6d\]: ladder good for w?
RankLower [2d\]: e 7 ?
Dino9 [6d\]: no
Dino9 [6d\]: but q9 looks good no?
Princessb [1k\]: 6d has to ask about that ladder?!?
mihi [6d\]: ..
epoxygal [3k\]: K3
WorldCop [2k\]: why not just play q9 then?
scurge [5d\]: mihi :D
cherisse [1k\]: f9 later too!
mihi [6d\]: b will ignore Q9
cherisse [1k\]: f8, i'm blind
mihi [6d\]: F8
cuby [3k?\]: what did i miss?  how did B switch outfits?
Wagaboo [11k\]: w has made the holy cross of fate
WorldCop [2k\]: it's one of her superpowers.
koha [1d\]: ladder is good for black
]
;W[fl]C[Dino9 [6d\]: g8
cherisse [1k\]: my move O_O
epoxygal [3k\]: black resigns. gg
]
;B[gl]
;W[fm]C[Dino9 [6d\]: e7
WorldCop [2k\]: keep on dreaming :)
WorldCop [2k\]: is d6 sente after this?
itepilah [1d\]: alex
mihi [6d\]: G12 possible after this
Dino9 [6d\]: w need to worry about j8 group after this
]
;B[kr]C[NschoTschi [-\]: f12 a lot of aji
WorldCop [2k\]: what is this move?
NschoTschi [-\]: this is life move
Dino9 [6d\]: b neeed to live
WorldCop [2k\]: but e7 is for free first?
Loons [4k\]: How is E7 free ?
misjoe [2k\]: first live, then save some stones
koha [1d\]: you lost your bet WorldCop?
WorldCop [2k\]: uh, it's alive if e7 not answered
NschoTschi [-\]: maybe g7 cut later better. B can keep it open
WorldCop [2k\]: many bets :)
cherisse [1k\]: live inside again or get thickness outside but why has stones around. yey!
misjoe [2k\]: it is better than first saving stones, then dying
WorldCop [2k\]: e7 is sente for life
koha [1d\]: E7 prevents black G7 later
epoxygal [3k\]: exactly koha
WorldCop [2k\]: flimsy, but i'll accept it :)
NschoTschi [-\]: worldcup see me comment?
epoxygal [3k\]: E7 is aji  keshi plus white wont spend one move to eat those 4 stones
WorldCop [2k\]: yes
WorldCop [2k\]: why not, it is sente for his life too
NschoTschi [-\]: aji keshi right. and small
NschoTschi [-\]: just bad style
epoxygal [3k\]: bad style
WorldCop [2k\]: if i'm white i'll eat now, and have no weak groups left
scurge [5d\]: why didn'twhite E7 once?
]
;W[lr]C[scurge [5d\]: after this move its not longer sente
NschoTschi [-\]: to not get cut?
KoReNJe [3d\]: haha only 6d on kgs?
praeludium [5d\]: I don't get f7 at all 
praeludium [5d\]: uh ok 
praeludium [5d\]: dreams 
NschoTschi [-\]: praeludium if not f7 b could cut in sente?
]
;B[lq]C[scurge [5d\]: hopa
praeludium [5d\]: yes 
NschoTschi [-\]: m3 aims for L5?
nanotech [2k\]: k3 looks fine?
koha [1d\]: m3 is a risky plan
Takimme [1d\]: k2 
nanotech [2k\]: k2
Dino9 [6d\]: k2 l3
Takimme [1d\]: k2 l3 k3 
Dino9 [6d\]: k4
erikk [-\]: l3 k2?
]
;W[kq]
;B[jr]
;W[mr]C[koha [1d\]: k2 l3 k3 k4 j3 k5 and the ladder is saved by Q10, so have to do this instead
cherisse [1k\]: white looks risky no, helped w?
]
;B[er]C[Dino9 [6d\]: now d6 sente for B
NschoTschi [-\]: yes
scurge [5d\]: maybe white plays d6
cherisse [1k\]: o o o  is this dead
NschoTschi [-\]: w d6 is honte?
WorldCop [2k\]: 30 points gone from the bottom
scurge [5d\]: no, its painful
]
;W[dn]C[praeludium [5d\]: w doesnt have enough points
cherisse [1k\]: so sad
nanotech [2k\]: w did not have points form the start
zhou901108 [1d\]: g12 safe
Dino9 [6d\]: e7
hidalgo2: there is still an invasion?? i mean right side
scurge [5d\]: G12?:)
WorldCop [2k\]: i hope cut the big keima on top soon
NschoTschi [-\]: what is the meaning of g12?
BALLZ [3k\]: life in sente for b
Dino9 [6d\]: first e7
Dino9 [6d\]: then something like j11
zhou901108 [1d\]: oh there is e7
WorldCop [2k\]: now e7 is not aji keshi anymore?
]
;B[em]
;W[gm]C[WorldCop [2k\]: i hate you people
]
;B[jn]C[scurge [5d\]: g7 really...
epoxygal [3k\]: lol
NschoTschi [-\]: WorldCup learn goodstyle simply
zhou901108 [1d\]: why is b so hardcore
Dino9 [6d\]: doesnt look so good for white
NschoTschi [-\]: because b is Korean?
koha [1d\]: at least white has G12 aji
epoxygal [3k\]: koreans are hardcore
praeludium [5d\]: g7 should be k4? 
scurge [5d\]: i dont think so... but i dont know where
KoReNJe [3d\]: king kang
Morla [6d?\]: better l 5?
cherisse [1k\]: lol
Czar [2d?\]: Queen Kang you mean?
KoReNJe [3d\]: it's a she?
cuby [3k?\]: white can G9 here in sente?
A1R [4k\]: yes
WorldCop [2k\]: check the video
KoReNJe [3d\]: how does she look?
KoReNJe [3d\]: oh
cuby [3k?\]: koren Black is a sleek young korean thing
FeGo [6d?\]: kang is cute
KoReNJe [3d\]: ssh 
KoReNJe [3d\]: no spoilers plz
epoxygal [3k\]: g9 is flase eye
cuby [3k?\]: with 2 arms and 2 legs and everything
A1R [4k\]: :)
endure [-\]: thats the best amount of legs and arms
cuby [3k?\]: totally
cherisse [1k\]: csaba is cute too
KoReNJe [3d\]: ah
epoxygal [3k\]: thats what u call leggy
WorldCop [2k\]: i dunno, i think it's a bit above average, which is weird
KoReNJe [3d\]: I see only shaved csaba
Koukkaaja [3d\]: you are so conservative
KoReNJe [3d\]: csaba isn't cute :S
cuby [3k?\]: black went to go change outfits, she heard you were watching koren
NschoTschi [-\]: please focus on game
endure [-\]: she'll be back soon
Czar [2d?\]: she's a dumbass
KoReNJe [3d\]: ,,,
cuby [3k?\]: boo
FeGo [6d?\]: csaba would be more cute if smile somtimes
Czar [2d?\]: and she'd kill me for saying that
KoReNJe [3d\]: he's a smoker
cuby [3k?\]: eww
R1D1 [17k\]: immagine Kang smiling :O
cuby [3k?\]: kang smiled at end of last night's game
sesbes [3k?\]: If black loses the f10 stones it is not really that bad is it?
WorldCop [2k\]: would be pretty bad
R1D1 [17k\]: dude, totally haveto watch this game to the end now
cherisse [1k\]: why don't i see cornel on the pairing list? :(
cuby [3k?\]: cornel lost :(
WorldCop [2k\]: beating dinnerstein is enough. he can go home happy.
scurge [5d\]: how do you know?
Elandal [4k\]: You aren't looking hard enough at table 8, cherisse.
cuby [3k?\]: cuz it was on last night :)
RankLower [2d\]: kang will won
xxxholic [10k\]: it's juste a little problemesorry but i see a little probleme: it's the cam view and not the gamer view  
cuby [3k?\]: oh snap he beat dinerch?  is there a kifu somewhere?
cherisse [1k\]: yeah i was starstruck on the list - artem and all that
WorldCop [2k\]: it's in eurogotv1 from monday
WorldCop [2k\]: err, sunday
]
;W[gh]C[Dino9 [6d\]: h10
cuby [3k?\]: oh snap throw down
Katsuri [3k\]: how old is kang
Isobeutel [4k\]: 43
]
;B[hj]C[cuby [3k?\]: NO she is 44
]
;W[dg]
;B[eg]C[Katsuri [3k\]: really?
Isobeutel [4k\]: sorry, yes
Czar [2d?\]: 20
epoxygal [3k\]: 12
WorldCop [2k\]: lol
falientje [7k?\]: 21
WorldCop [2k\]: w can't save these stones and h7
Koukkaaja [3d\]: go north stay young
KoReNJe [3d\]: she looks like a waitress in a chinese restourant.
cuby [3k?\]: lol!!
Katsuri [3k\]: xD
KoReNJe [3d\]: can't say how old is she cuz eurogotv doesn't buy fullhd cams :p
kmr [2k\]: korenje u are bigger talker ever in kgs history i suppose...sad:/
epoxygal [3k\]: no full hd cant see wrinkles
KoReNJe [3d\]: I'd give her 30
cuby [3k?\]: naw cmon she's cute.  has the bronze skin and toned arms of a young roman boy
]
;W[gg]C[WorldCop [2k\]: full hd video is for vip members only
epoxygal [3k\]: she's a boy??
KoReNJe [3d\]: kmr, I am the kgs history :p
bolbi [-\]: coul you please focus on the game ?
]
;B[fe]C[Katsuri [3k\]: kang seems bored
cuby [3k?\]: kgs would be nothing without korenje
KoReNJe [3d\]: been here since the beginning :p
epoxygal [3k\]: boys, pls focus on the game.
zhou901108 [1d\]: hard fight for w and she's korean...
NschoTschi [-\]: its her psycho-tactic to look board
Katsuri [3k\]: xD
cherisse [1k\]: and you're still a 3d?
faintvoice [1k\]: get over it so what if shes a girl weird lil lonely pervs
]
;W[ij]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: she's flat chested, which is good for csaba...
WorldCop [2k\]: bolbi: you are lucky. let me quote the video chat: "pmq: can you focus on the shorts"
Dino9 [6d\]: h8
cuby [3k?\]: anyone who tells us to stop harping on the fact that she's a cute girl, is the MOST obsessed with her cuteness.
faintvoice [1k\]: go outside u might see more
nanotech [2k\]: she is NOT flat
]
;B[ii]C[Princessb [1k\]: carpenters delight
cuby [3k?\]: whoa can't white xcut here???
faintvoice [1k\]: bunch of lonely virgins im going to sleep
Katsuri [3k\]: no chance for w
murai [3d\]: can we have time for each players ?
KoReNJe [3d\]: csaba got totaly owned in this game
strong10k [-\]: no cur
NschoTschi [-\]: b is just domina ting
strong10k [-\]: cut
cuby [3k?\]: someone can read out the cut for us?
Koukkaaja [3d\]: some like being dominated
Katsuri [3k\]: cut does noch work
Dino9 [6d\]: h11 h8
cuby [3k?\]: atari
koha [1d\]: do you want it read correctly? 
mihi [6d\]: H8 first
R1D1 [17k\]: ladder?
Katsuri [3k\]: yes
strong10k [-\]: read 2 moves ahead sometimes not easy
strong10k [-\]: especially at 3am
ikea [2d\]: no ladder
Katsuri [3k\]: h8 first
cuby [3k?\]: ahh okay thanks
ChrisHH [4d\]: atari, atari, atari, over
cuby [3k?\]: what if white H9 first then?
Katsuri [3k\]: will resign soon i think
Morla [6d?\]: b connects h11
strong10k [-\]: h9 you can just h11
cuby [3k?\]: black left to go be fabulous somewhere else for a while
strong10k [-\]: black strong insei right?
A1R [4k\]: former
endure [-\]: is there a think like weak insei?
cuby [3k?\]: hah
kyyni [3k\]: korean insei, or japanese?
Katsuri [3k\]: what is her real age from kang now???
strong10k [-\]: 7d euro = ?kgs
A1R [4k\]: korean
WorldCop [2k\]: there is, kinda. starting insei can be like 2d kgs
Princessb [1k\]: black was an insei until she met Hikaru No Go. Then she retired.
x0000 [4k\]: why b didn't play h8? h8 j7 j9 looks good for me
erikk [-\]: h11 h8 j7 j9 g10 ?
WorldCop [2k\]: 7d euro is highest amateur rank, so up to 9d kgs.
Katsuri [3k\]: she looks very young
cuby [3k?\]: we should all be celebrating such a strong female competitor
koha [1d\]: erikk - g10? why?
faintvoice [1k\]: get over it katsuri
Muscadet [?\]: w can h11 i think
Katsuri [3k\]: a strong female playernice
cuby [3k?\]: this is honestly really cool.  in all the couple of years of eurogotv, can't think of many female go players who kicked this much butt
Princessb [1k\]: w has the B2 bomber so he must win
erikk [-\]: w captures f10
Muscadet [?\]: after j9 w can g10
epoxygal [3k\]: http://www.wbaduk.com/FileUpDown/news/a1.jpg
nanotech [2k\]: Mero close to r
cuby [3k?\]: kang singlehandedly picking off all of romania's Boy's Club
Princessb [1k\]: how can w capture f10?
nanotech [2k\]: black magic?
strong10k [-\]: cheat
Koukkaaja [3d\]: after g10 b caps h6
Wagaboo [11k\]: w h9
Katsuri [3k\]: how much time left
koha [1d\]: h11 h8 j7 j9 g10 k8 
o3epo [1k\]: EuroGoTV, Who won Ilia or Ali?
]
;W[jj]
;B[hi]
;W[jo]
;B[hl]
;W[im]C[Princessb [1k\]: zomg
]
;B[dr]
;W[iq]
;B[ir]C[Princessb [1k\]: j3 lame
Dino9 [6d\]: good exchange...
strong10k [-\]: for who?
NschoTschi [-\]: j3 small?
Dino9 [6d\]: w
Dino9 [6d\]: tenuki now
just9x9 [-\]: r8 last hope?
strong10k [-\]: probably
Katsuri [3k\]: but w behind
NschoTschi [-\]: but b k3 sente and b has a huge move in ll
Dino9 [6d\]: q9
]
;W[ld]C[strong10k [-\]: white can try to get a moyo
WorldCop [2k\]: hm
Princessb [1k\]: m15
WorldCop [2k\]: that looks a bit much
NschoTschi [-\]: its ok
]
;B[lc]C[stf7 [1k\]: gogogo KAAANG!!!!!!!!!! ^^
rejuv [4d\]: what are the records of these players?
WorldCop [2k\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results/
misjoe [2k\]: land speed record: 170mph (Csaba)
rejuv [4d\]: oh thanks
misjoe [2k\]: altitude record: 13000 meter (Kang)
strong10k [-\]: feels like black is 15+ points ahead
WorldCop [2k\]: top is 60 points, that's more than w has total.
R1D1 [17k\]: y w not resigning then?
cuby [3k?\]: cuz people here are talkin out they buttz
quappe [3d\]: there are still chances for white i think
strong10k [-\]: maybe he wants to try something crazy then resign
Katsuri [3k\]: euro do you know how much time left
cuby [3k?\]: K14!!
hidalgo2: white might have something there
strong10k [-\]: where?
hidalgo2: around k14
strong10k [-\]: dont think so
hidalgo2: if he can exploit q17 stones
strong10k [-\]: black pretty solid
Princessb [1k\]: SE has b far ahead
scurge [5d\]: i think why should R8 and hope 
strong10k [-\]: he reading that
cuby [3k?\]: the entire T-rank is sponsored by Zhuyeqing
]
;W[mc]C[rejuv [4d\]: black is dominating...
]
;B[mb]C[Princessb [1k\]: click klack
RankLower [2d\]: blac will won
rejuv [4d\]: can black has win?
strong10k [-\]: as long as black connects there, nothing white can do
strong10k [-\]: and he still has good lead
rejuv [4d\]: she :P
WorldCop [2k\]: how big is b16?
strong10k [-\]: big
WorldCop [2k\]: mhh...thx :P
endure [-\]: 10+
Princessb [1k\]: b16 is humungus
endure [-\]: B looks bored
quappe [3d\]: maybe white hoped here that black plays o17 than there is some aji
erikk [-\]: o18 is interesting
strong10k [-\]: b16 15 points
WorldCop [2k\]: hm. you figure b17 is gote for white?
strong10k [-\]: sure
strong10k [-\]: but huge gote
WorldCop [2k\]: then why so little?
Princessb [1k\]: oo ah, nice shorts
scurge [5d\]: m18 not an option?
rejuv [4d\]: m18 n16?
rejuv [4d\]: can someone link me to the live broadcast? 
scurge [5d\]: i wanted something like m18 n16 o17 o18 l18 o16 k17 
scurge [5d\]: but probably not..
guojuan [5p\]: white must invade on the right side, r8 most severe 
Isobeutel [4k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
rejuv [4d\]: thanks
mihi [6d\]: yes,r8 severe
murai [3d\]: eurogo, what's the time for both players ?
st21 [-\]: where i can see statistic of tournament?
WorldCop [2k\]: thx strong10k.
Werfeus [4d\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/
]
;W[pk]C[guojuan [5p\]: nice move, but less severe 
st21 [-\]: thx
]
;B[qk]C[guojuan [5p\]: black r9, wr8
Princessb [1k\]: that was too easy
Anubis [1d?\]: kang is a girl!
just9x9 [-\]: why is r8 more sever than q9?
guojuan [5p\]: b q8, after that b p8
guojuan [5p\]: white does not get enough
]
;W[ql]C[guojuan [5p\]: w should have played at r8
guojuan [5p\]: r8?
guojuan [5p\]: no way to kill 
guojuan [5p\]: if white runs out, black is even in trouble with his q10 and r12
]
;B[pl]
;W[ok]C[guojuan [5p\]: b has to defend instead of attak 
kenjiro43 [6k\]: now b is OK?
]
;B[ol]C[guojuan [5p\]: r8 was white chance
rejuv [4d\]: :( kang is scary
]
;W[qj]
;B[rk]C[guojuan [5p\]: see, now white does not have real stuff
just9x9 [-\]: well, now position converted to an r8 invasion
cherisse [1k\]: what can white do with r8, can live inside?
stf7 [1k\]: ehy scary?
]
;W[rj]C[rejuv [4d\]: yes, live inside
strong10k [-\]: o9
]
;B[rl]C[kenjiro43 [6k\]: Thank you Guo Juan
kenjiro43 [6k\]: :)
guojuan [5p\]: Kang is nove scary,but Csaba was too soft here 
st21 [-\]: that now even close
cherisse [1k\]: so w chosed this now to target r12, not bad no?
guojuan [5p\]: game over this way :(
cherisse [1k\]: oh?
st21 [-\]: q11 only here?
guojuan [5p\]: close ?
st21 [-\]: or any magic
st21 [-\]: ?
guojuan [5p\]: I think after here black is better
strong10k [-\]: white has no good followup
teddibear [2d\]: ya
RankLower [2d\]: b 16 ?
RankLower [2d\]: for black
guojuan [5p\]: Csaba was too bookish here, lost a big chance :(
epoxygal [3k\]: bookish?
rejuv [4d\]: Csaba does have a cool name though
guojuan [5p\]: the problem for w now is
maligo [-\]: csaba is always bookish...
just9x9 [-\]: following the book
teddibear [2d\]: p8 powerful
]
;W[pi]C[guojuan [5p\]: if cares about the center, black will get too much at the side 
guojuan [5p\]: oh he notice the problem :)
guojuan [5p\]: so he fights 
teddibear [2d\]: white q11 only move
guojuan [5p\]: good for Csaba!
guojuan [5p\]: yes only move 
]
;B[no]C[guojuan [5p\]: nice move!
guojuan [5p\]: white o9 now
guojuan [5p\]: o9 only move
]
;W[nk]C[guojuan [5p\]: ya!!!!
erikk [-\]: lol
wahnsinn [?\]: ^^
st21 [-\]: you win 2 VIP points
rejuv [4d\]: haha, guo is so excited right now :P
epoxygal [3k\]: ya!!!
Czar [2d?\]: going crazy huh...
]
;B[lp]C[epoxygal [3k\]: go csaba go!!!!
WorldCop [2k\]: is it better for w? or just more complicated?
strong10k [-\]: white has a chance now
stf7 [1k\]: gogogoog KAAANG!!!!!!!!!!11  ^^
Anubis [1d?\]: guojuan: than you for your comments!
guojuan [5p\]: b o5 was a bit of blufing (?)
Dino9 [6d\]: r2
maligo [-\]: go csaba!!!
]
;W[lo]C[guojuan [5p\]: you write as bluffing or blufing or whatever :)
]
;B[mp]C[itepilah [1d\]: hajrá magyarok!
]
;W[qr]
;B[rr]
;W[pq]
;B[qp]C[guojuan [5p\]: it lives!
RankLower [2d\]: b 16 for black ??
guojuan [5p\]: p2
WorldCop [2k\]: oops
rejuv [4d\]: guo, why didn't black p10, w o9, b o10, w n10, b p12 work?
VickyH [2d\]: why not  p10 instead of o5
WorldCop [2k\]: because b thought it was sente obviously :)
maligo [-\]: r11 q12 s12 than..
]
;W[or]C[guojuan [5p\]: close game now 
strong10k [-\]: b16
epoxygal [3k\]: it was a bluff move but bluff move cant bluf csaba
]
;B[ji]C[strong10k [-\]: black mess up now he needs to play good endgame
maligo [-\]: she
SqueezeIt [2d\]: she
gdghgjd [2d\]: did black make a mistake?
teddibear [2d\]: i like black 
]
;W[jp]C[SqueezeIt [2d\]: black is beautiful :D
Princessb [1k\]: the gote....
epoxygal [3k\]: why?
NschoTschi [-\]: b16 still too small?
WorldCop [2k\]: b still almost 10 ahead
strong10k [-\]: b16 biggest move
smartrobot [9d?\]: k4 passive i think
]
;B[kj]C[Isobeutel [4k\]: finally, b woke up...
just9x9 [-\]: k4 related to k11
cherisse [1k\]: maybe w o8 first :(
epoxygal [3k\]: i think same with robot. i dunno why k4....
epoxygal [3k\]: so slow....
smartrobot [9d?\]: why no b17?
guojuan [5p\]: L14 now 
guojuan [5p\]: kikashi
]
;W[kk]C[cherisse [1k\]: not cut?
]
;B[lk]
;W[lj]
;B[ki]C[guojuan [5p\]: m8
]
;W[ll]C[guojuan [5p\]: yes!
epoxygal [3k\]: yes!!
maligo [-\]: guojuan is soo strong...
teddibear [2d\]: hmm
rejuv [4d\]: haha
rejuv [4d\]: hacks
epoxygal [3k\]: guojuan is pro
strong10k [-\]: b16
]
;B[bd]C[guojuan [5p\]: no, I just wish Csaba win :)
strong10k [-\]: finally
itepilah [1d\]: big
guojuan [5p\]: c2
maligo [-\]: :)
]
;W[kf]C[rejuv [4d\]: i root for underdogs too
guojuan [5p\]: miai upper left and lower left 
]
;B[je]C[Anubis [1d?\]: how much time do they have left?
just9x9 [-\]: push again
epoxygal [3k\]: csaba can read guojuan here... he is playing all her moves
smartrobot [9d?\]: b16 so big
rejuv [4d\]: yes
epoxygal [3k\]: b16 huge...
nhanh [1k\]: who is leading?
quappe [3d\]: black much ahead ?
nhanh [1k\]: looks close to me
guojuan [5p\]: or n9 take that stone
WorldCop [2k\]: b+10
guojuan [5p\]: also very big 
netsend [4d\]: q11 q11 
rejuv [4d\]: I would've played b17 instead of k4 if I were mero haha
nhanh [1k\]: B3 is huge for b
misjoe [2k\]: it´s not allowed to play q11 twice, netsend
nhanh [1k\]: but M11 also big
guojuan [5p\]: ok, I continue with my work now. have fun!
rejuv [4d\]: bye guojuan!
epoxygal [3k\]: thanks guojuan
Anubis [1d?\]: thank you again, guojuan!
just9x9 [-\]: thx and bye
cherisse [1k\]: thanks mam
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: thnx guo!
strong10k [-\]: game very close
maligo [-\]: csaba says thanks
maligo [-\]: :)
]
;W[rm]
;B[qm]
;W[sl]C[just9x9 [-\]: ?
]
;B[bq]
;W[bp]C[nhanh [1k\]: ?
rejuv [4d\]: cool :)
Dino9 [6d\]: tesuji
just9x9 [-\]: to get sente at t10?
Dino9 [6d\]: yes
rejuv [4d\]: it's basically like playing t10 but faster
Dino9 [6d\]: or good endgame t9
Princessb [1k\]: B16 = b won
just9x9 [-\]: i see
Dino9 [6d\]: but i think c2 was bigger
rejuv [4d\]: right
rejuv [4d\]: I would've played n9
]
;B[sk]
;W[sj]
;B[sm]
;W[mk]C[Dino9 [6d\]: n14
NschoTschi [-\]: o15 ?
rejuv [4d\]: do these players playon KGS?
endure [-\]: Csaba is Csaba here too
st21 [-\]: w = csaba and aromo
endure [-\]: he got new account
kit91ka [6k\]: if b o1 w not dead?
strong10k [-\]: biggest next move?
]
;B[li]C[Princessb [1k\]: o1 o4
]
;W[mi]
;B[mh]C[kit91ka [6k\]: p4
just9x9 [-\]: then n5
shikashogi [10k\]: n5
kit91ka [6k\]: mm
Princessb [1k\]: n5
kit91ka [6k\]: tx
nanotech [2k\]: n13
strong10k [-\]: does this work?
rejuv [4d\]: black has n14 this way i believe
]
;W[me]C[Princessb [1k\]: oh my...
strong10k [-\]: this is good
Dino9 [6d\]: good move
Dino9 [6d\]: o18 ko now
Princessb [1k\]: o11
rejuv [4d\]: big ko :)
strong10k [-\]: black didn't exptected this
rejuv [4d\]: kang leaves
WorldCop [2k\]: i don't think b will play ko
mihi [6d\]: Dino,why didn't you go to congress?
Dino9 [6d\]: no money and i am afraid to go alone :P
Dino9 [6d\]: and you?
Fenix [?\]: b h15 ?
mihi [6d\]: same,but only first part:P
Fenix [?\]: err lol nevermind
Fenix [?\]: seeing hallus
mihi [6d\]: and I also can't go alone
Dino9 [6d\]: :)
strong10k [-\]: i think o17 no choice
mihi [6d\]: next year I'll try
maligo [-\]: where is it next year?
Dino9 [6d\]: me too
WorldCop [2k\]: france
A1R [4k\]: bordeaux
Dino9 [6d\]: fr bordeaux
just9x9 [-\]: oh, france, nice
Anubis [1d?\]: hello breakfast
maligo [-\]: it is so uncool not to be in european union....
Kratzdrink [1d\]: did breakfast win?
erikk [-\]: o15?
maligo [-\]: -.-
superdupon [2d\]: http://www.egc2011.eu/
FFH [3k\]: why asians play at european tourny?
Czar [2d?\]: cause they want to win
maligo [-\]: they need money
Kratzdrink [1d\]: it´s open tournament
superdupon [2d\]: it's like vacations
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Kang lives in Netherlands at the moment
Wolf84 [-\]: they are sandbaggers
cherisse [1k\]: lol
Czar [2d?\]: "lives" ? lol no she doesnt
WorldCop [2k\]: sandbagger hides his true rank...
maligo [-\]: they cant profit much in korea so they come to europe to farm money...
Lesmian [1k\]: where are the results of previous rounds?
FFH [3k\]: oh, i thought money prizes was only for european players
WorldCop [2k\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results/
Czar [2d?\]: they can profit more on go in Korea for sure than in Europe...
strong10k [-\]: im sure the plane ticket is atleast as expensive as some go congress prize
Lesmian [1k\]: tx
WorldCop [2k\]: many of them make money flying to tournaments accross europe
WorldCop [2k\]: egc is probably a special case though
]
;B[nc]C[Czar [2d?\]: kyoungnang isjust travelling around europe. not for go mainly
]
;W[lh]
;B[cr]C[gdghgjd [2d\]: how do you know?
WorldCop [2k\]: oh this
]
;W[be]C[Dino9 [6d\]: chceck her name in google
Czar [2d?\]: cause I'm good
]
;B[ac]
;W[cd]
;B[cc]
;W[rs]
;B[sr]C[gtftf [3k\]: o17 ? for the ko ? 
]
;W[md]
;B[ap]
;W[ao]
;B[aq]C[Dino9 [6d\]: a6 best
just9x9 [-\]: sente, if tenuki a6
]
;W[an]
;B[pe]
;W[qe]C[FeGo [6d?\]: r18 big for b
suechan [5d\]: o4 
A1R [4k\]: isnt p18 dangerious?
]
;B[ln]C[dd33: she is pro at being cute
Czar [2d?\]: she's not really that cute
Princessb [1k\]: m6 is good
]
;W[np]
;B[mo]C[just9x9 [-\]: p18 q18 and b has no problems
]
;W[op]C[strong10k [-\]: i agree with 2d
maligo [-\]: she actually doesnt want to became go pro
strong10k [-\]: p4 was his sente
Dino9 [6d\]: B winning by 8-10points
st21 [-\]: b lost sente
st21 [-\]: there
]
;B[jf]
;W[oo]
;B[on]C[Princessb [1k\]: zomg
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: white 1o minutes left
WorldCop [2k\]: this is pro style, risk minimization. w is toast
A1R [4k\]: who is in byo-yomi?
A1R [4k\]: ok
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 10
strong10k [-\]: how is this pro style?
WorldCop [2k\]: k14
Isobeutel [4k\]: b has a comfortable lead.
WorldCop [2k\]: clearly just removing aji, no way w can catch up
]
;W[mm]C[cherisse [1k\]: :(
WorldCop [2k\]: especially with this move?
strong10k [-\]: this is sente
]
;B[mn]C[cherisse [1k\]: white just c3 f3 l16 then this!
WorldCop [2k\]: yes...
cherisse [1k\]: or that
]
;W[nm]
;B[nn]C[strong10k [-\]: white might just resign
]
;W[ob]C[Princessb [1k\]: dinner is looking at the game
hgh01 [16k\]: hi I do see breakfast does anybody know his result from today?
WorldCop [2k\]: he had a low opponent
hgh01 [16k\]: thx
mihi [6d\]: he played against Fredrik..you think he's low?
stf7 [1k\]:   5	Alexandr Dinershteyn (7d)-	Fredrik Blomback (5d)	  5	Alexandr Dinershteyn (7d)-Fredrik Blomback (5d)	
]
;B[pb]C[WorldCop [2k\]: in comparison, yes that's what i think.
FFH [3k\]: 5<7
maligo [-\]: i think he is high
just9x9 [-\]: frederik held a 9d account on kgs for some time
WorldCop [2k\]: i know 2ds who did
strong10k [-\]: did what?
cherisse [1k\]: this just might be the winning move :D
WorldCop [2k\]: hold a 9d account
WorldCop [2k\]: drift gets kinda crazy
st21 [-\]: Diner any chance to win?
st21 [-\]: or him don't play any more?
strong10k [-\]: make two 2d accounts, use one to play another with 6 stones
cherisse [1k\]: o18! why not?
Stefany93 [15k\]: the korean will wiN!
WorldCop [2k\]: or win to rapyuta on lag.
]
;W[nb]
;B[lb]C[just9x9 [-\]: hehe winning rapy on lag is best plan ever
WorldCop [2k\]: it's not a new plan :)
]
;W[qa]
;B[pa]C[Mukti [4d\]: B winning big
strong10k [-\]: +10
]
;W[pd]
;B[oc]C[Princessb [1k\]: se has B + 4.5
]
;W[oe]
;B[lf]
;W[mf]
;B[kg]C[cherisse [1k\]: huhu it's ovah
]
;W[mg]C[strong10k [-\]: maybe se right then
]
;B[ko]C[strong10k [-\]: i counted a while ago and just did some estimates
]
;W[km]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w 5min left
Mukti [4d\]: I make it b +7,5
]
;B[kn]C[WorldCop [2k\]: good show by mero, coming back from such a start
mihi [6d\]: b+3,5 after w's sente moves
Princessb [1k\]: w just played conservatively
Princessb [1k\]: I mean b
]
;W[nd]
;B[na]C[WorldCop [2k\]: o5 was not conservative enough :)
]
;W[fq]
;B[fr]
;W[cq]
;B[br]C[just9x9 [-\]: l1
mihi [6d\]: L16
itepilah [1d\]: q5
erkkierkki [6k\]: r18
herminator [-\]: Poor Csaba, losing to Kang three tournaments in a row now. Must be frustrating :)
Hellhuman [1d\]: l16
Dino9 [6d\]: b+3,5 final result
cherisse [1k\]: oh they have played before, is it always this close?
]
;W[kd]
;B[jd]C[gdghgjd [2d\]: b+1,5
maligo [-\]: b won :(
stf7 [1k\]: ^^
sesbes [3k?\]: White gained a lot on the right side. Q10 and R12 captured seems like big success
Boogeyman [2k\]: b+3.5 , = info-100%
]
;W[po]
;B[ks]
;W[om]
;B[pn]
;W[qo]
;B[ro]C[Isobeutel [4k\]: in the firdst 50 moves i never thought that this game will become so close in the end...
itepilah [1d\]: se: w + 0,5
]
;W[hk]
;B[gk]
;W[ik]C[sesbes [3k?\]: Yes, it looked very bad in the beginning.
]
;B[ls]
;W[ms]
;B[jm]
;W[jl]C[cherisse [1k\]: amazing isn't it =) cornel vs breakfast 0.5 too
]
;B[kh]C[just9x9 [-\]: se gets b17 wrong
just9x9 [-\]: and j4
aertan [4k\]: b+ 3.5
]
;W[nl]
;B[ae]
;W[af]
;B[ad]
;W[pm]
;B[jq]
;W[ql]
;B[pl]C[WorldCop [2k\]: no way
]
;W[ip]
;B[lm]
;W[le]
;B[oa]
;W[qb]
;B[kf]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: w byojomi
]
;W[kl]
;B[rq]
;W[qs]C[cherisse [1k\]: there is something saddening while w plays the last few stones =(
FangFa [2d\]: w has komi
gdghgjd [2d\]: which rules are used?
erkkierkki [6k\]: i guess ING rules
Princessb [1k\]: Japanese I hope
Luna86 [9k\]: Japanese european rules, komi 6,5
pel [1k\]: n
A1R [4k\]: counting
just9x9 [-\]: zureiyah tea rules
pel [1k\]: japanese
strong10k [-\]: who wins?
]
;B[ql]
;W[ol]C[Katsuri [3k\]: close
Princessb [1k\]: B
Isobeutel [4k\]: currently counting in progress
freffenber [1d\]: b+4,5
aertan [4k\]: but is that without komi?
FangFa [2d\]: w +2.5
freffenber [1d\]: komi incl.
]
;B[mq]
;W[ss]C[lalicoasa [4k\]: who won?
Katsuri [3k\]: euro?
suechan [5d\]: counting
Mukti [4d\]: B won for sure.
Robert99 [3k\]: b+4,5
Dontgoplz [19k\]: wow fantastic game
A1R [4k\]: official result?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: B +3.5
Katsuri [3k\]: ty
Isobeutel [4k\]: ok
Mandos [2k\]: Thank you Euro.
cherisse [1k\]: gg
Isobeutel [4k\]: gg
misjoe [2k\]: thanks, eurogotv
vaudevil: thanks euro
bek: what do they wait for?
Princessb [1k\]: very impressive play by b
WorldCop [2k\]: what are they doing?
tudor11 [2k\]: thx
Xodd [13k\]: vgg
strong10k [-\]: white caught up by alot
erikk [-\]: thx EuroGO
Worthless [-\]: Thanks, EuroGo
Isobeutel [4k\]: haha
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: your welcoem
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: welcome
Isobeutel [4k\]: thes are sitting speechless 
cherisse [1k\]: as guojuan said, white r8 on the right side is the chance
omega2004 [12k\]: what are they waiting for?
])