(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[13]KM[6.50]TM[900]OT[1x10 byo-yomi] GN[FINAL 13x13 tournament European Go Congress 2010]PW[Ilia Shikshin]PB[Jung-Hyeop Kim]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2010-07-28]RO[Final]PC[Tampere, Finland]US[HW9x9]C[TonyTiger [4d\]: white vs black asd3: good match Gizensha [?\]: the eternal battle Hellhuman [1d\]: first april, pink vs pink Hellhuman [1d\]: hehehe Dino9 [6d\]: what is this? final? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Jung-Hyeop Kim vs Ilia Shikshin adidas [3k\]: and rank ? Tien [7d\]: 7d 7d adidas [3k\]: ty Dino9 [6d\]: in 19x19 Ilya shikshin won SunnyD [3d\]: what is this?? bolbi [-\]: this is the final match ? Hellhuman [1d\]: stream link?? sheeryjay [1k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 scurge [5d\]: oh korean also play 13*13 now ? :D asd3: b+3.5 Wagaboo [11k\]: who do you think that'll win the tournament? asd3: i dont see anything on the video asd3: only black Wagaboo [11k\]: white is tired Dino9 [6d\]: Ilya is european champion anyway if this is final Wagaboo [11k\]: shikshin is tired ] ;B[kd] ;W[dc]C[Dino9 [6d\]: i bet on W scurge [5d\]: me to dmf [15k?\]: ok, i take b asd3: does the video work for you? Bulbasaur [5k\]: B thinking long about second move Wagaboo [11k\]: i bet on white ] ;B[dj] ;W[kk]C[Dino9 [6d\]: i dont like d4 in 13x13 sheeryjay [1k\]: video works, reload if necessary Wagaboo [11k\]: cris cross joseki ] ;B[ce]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 Wagaboo [11k\]: big fight there will be sentra [2d\]: star @ 13x13 size is awkward ] ;W[ic]C[Bulbasaur [5k\]: lol I see move earlier here than on live broadcast :p ibd [5k?\]: LOL ] ;B[ed] ;W[dd] ;B[de] ;W[ee]C[MalyJezyk [1d\]: why is w so nervous? ;) Dino9 [6d\]: he's allways sheeryjay [1k\]: quite noisy outside playing room ] ;B[fd]C[Pingu007 [2d\]: if i want to see them in live, i have to do my suitcase... ] ;W[ef]C[ibd [5k?\]: b11 Sonatine [7k\]: why not E11 instead of F10? ] ;B[eb] ;W[bd]C[Dino9 [6d\]: b10 ibd [5k?\]: d7 Dino9 [6d\]: b9 ] ;B[cd] ;W[cc] ;B[be]C[twold [1k\]: w looks deadish ] ;W[bc]C[Shedal [2d\]: no twold [1k\]: and b too ^^ Wagaboo [11k\]: b looks more deadish ] ;B[ch]C[ibd [5k?\]: w does Shedal [2d\]: no yamashitaK [5d\]: both live scurge [5d\]: now if there isn't any tesuji it is bad for white Pingu007 [2d\]: d12 for w life ] ;W[db]C[Pingu007 [2d\]: isnt it? yamashitaK [5d\]: yes yamashitaK [5d\]: but good for b yamashitaK [5d\]: the result Dino9 [6d\]: d12 is a tesuji twold [1k\]: h10 now? ibd [5k?\]: g9 kill [-\]: is this part of the tournament? Sonatine [7k\]: g12 ? ] ;B[ge] ;W[ie]C[ibd [5k?\]: =) Dino9 [6d\]: hmm Shedal [2d\]: isn't W dead after B A10? Dino9 [6d\]: g8 Dino9 [6d\]: b need g7 first Shedal [2d\]: Or the dame at E11 gives him life?.. scurge [5d\]: no e11 doesnt give life :) Shedal [2d\]: so A10 kills Dino9 [6d\]: no scurge [5d\]: locally ] ;B[hf] ;W[kf]C[Dino9 [6d\]: now A10 ibd [5k?\]: k12 Dino9 [6d\]: but f12 can be ko workforce [2d\]: now ] ;B[if]C[kyyni [3k\]: what is the komi here? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 6.5 kyyni [3k\]: thanks ] ;W[jf]C[Dino9 [6d\]: g10 is tesuji maybe for white kill [-\]: is this part of the tournament in some way? Shedal [2d\]: g10? wow. And how does it work? kyyni [3k\]: a side tournament of the congress ] ;B[jb]C[Shedal [2d\]: ah.. 2 cuts? twold [1k\]: yeah workforce [2d\]: after f12,e11,g12,g11g11 mabe g10 is sente workforce [2d\]: i will give up listing long sequences i think but i think there might not be a ko no ] ;W[ib] ;B[gb]C[YellowInk [6k\]: white can put the top right corner into ko now, yes? Dino9 [6d\]: C7 vijay [?\]: is this a live game? YellowInk [6k\]: yes scurge [5d\]: it would be nice if A10 become sente ] ;W[kc]C[vijay [?\]: why on 13x13? Dino9 [6d\]: yeah YellowInk [6k\]: because that is the game? YellowInk [6k\]: :) ] ;B[lc]C[Dino9 [6d\]: why not a10 ] ;W[jc]C[vijay [?\]: i mean why not 19x19?? kyyni [3k\]: it says, 13x13 tournament EGF sheeryjay [1k\]: main tournament is 19x19 vijay [?\]: ok ty kyyni [3k\]: just a side event :) adidas [3k\]: i didnt like black's style vijay [?\]: i see dmf [15k?\]: can black live there? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 FreeDoom [?\]: should m9 ] ;B[le]C[adidas [3k\]: he is so brash ] ;W[lf]C[ibd [5k?\]: now cutt ] ;B[kb]C[twold [1k\]: no, lol ] ;W[lb]C[Dino9 [6d\]: b dead YellowInk [6k\]: b was dead with m11 I think FreeDoom [?\]: have time to kill? MikGo [1d\]: seki FreeDoom [?\]: or will simply connect in sente? PeatMan [6k\]: m13 MikGo [1d\]: ! ibd [5k?\]: dead still starry419 [9k\]: is w top left group alive? MikGo [1d\]: eteernal live YellowInk [6k\]: yes starry419 [9k\]: looks dead to me if black plays at a10 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no Tien [7d\]: White so stong MikGo [1d\]: maybe? scurge [5d\]: I think same as dino.. A10 kills mdf [?\]: could be ko EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Ba10 kills W b13 lives Tien [7d\]: no mdf [?\]: yes MikGo [1d\]: yes twold [1k\]: get a grip peaple, top left is L+1 Tien [7d\]: no MikGo [1d\]: yes scurge [5d\]: tell sequence please Tien [7d\]: no no no adidas [3k\]: vaav MikGo [1d\]: yes no yes Ph1xi3 [-\]: Yo Tien! Tien [7d\]: Hi! FreeDoom [?\]: nes! Ph1xi3 [-\]: So, what is your thought? ] ;B[ad]C[PeatMan [6k\]: yes, no yes no yes no Dino9 [6d\]: i don't see it alive Tien [7d\]: Black can make a semeai, but white has more liberties Tien [7d\]: So yes no yes ] ;W[ci]C[MikGo [1d\]: fuck yeah! Dino9 [6d\]: d6 sushisan [4d\]: oops nhanh [1d\]: c5 tough sushisan [4d\]: 4 letter word Tien [7d\]: Word is, too Finnish8d [-\]: :D MikGo [1d\]: :D ] ;B[dh]C[sushisan [4d\]: admin miscounted # of letters Shedal [2d\]: The strongest answer - Tien [7d\]: Stongest sushisan [4d\]: vey stong nhanh [1d\]: c4? ibd [5k?\]: you mean very ibd [5k?\]: please, watch your spelling MikGo [1d\]: vary vijay [?\]: can white live here? Tien [7d\]: ko FreeDoom [?\]: depend.. where you live? ] ;W[bg]C[Shedal [2d\]: ko? are you sure? YellowInk [6k\]: Why are we looking at people's bellies? sushisan [4d\]: w B7 obvious Wagaboo [11k\]: did U see the small skirt? ^^ mdf [?\]: yes ibd [5k?\]: hehe, 7d can tell already YellowInk [6k\]: lol ibd [5k?\]: how is b7 obvious? ] ;B[df]C[Ivar [6k\]: someone let loose the spell patrol mdf [?\]: now seki MikGo [1d\]: black mistake ] ;W[cj]C[nhanh [1d\]: how mistake? MikGo [1d\]: hueg mitsake Targund [-\]: black start to play with w? MalyJezyk [1d\]: w is dead in the corner Dino9 [6d\]: b6 very big ] ;B[ck]C[sushisan [4d\]: onybady cen spall inn hear? nhanh [1d\]: b6 kinda sente Tien [7d\]: How do I spelled? sushisan [4d\]: only small life for w ] ;W[di] ;B[ei]C[ibd [5k?\]: lol y u mad tho? ] ;W[dk] ;B[ej] ;W[bk]C[ibd [5k?\]: 13x13 is so weird ] ;B[cl] ;W[bl] ;B[dl] ;W[bh] ;B[ik]C[nhanh [1d\]: ?? nhanh [1d\]: A11? miksu [4k\]: yes, stones are bigger ;) FreeDoom [?\]: a11 ko Dino9 [6d\]: a9 sente to kill b3group ] ;W[ac] ;B[ae]C[Kare [-\]: d2 at b6? sushisan [4d\]: mmm. b B4 would have been stong b4 Dino9 [6d\]: e3 Wagaboo [11k\]: b13 Dino9 [6d\]: c1 or e3 Shedal [2d\]: 13x13 is a pure L&D problem in each corner Tien [7d\]: White too stong dmf [15k?\]: e3? ooze: c1 ] ;W[ba]C[Wagaboo [11k\]: yeahhhhh ] ;B[ki]C[nhanh [1d\]: how to kill? ibd [5k?\]: e6 for w is annoying? ] ;W[jj] ;B[jh] ;W[ij] ;B[lh] ;W[hk]C[shikashogi [10k\]: what about d7 for w? ] ;B[mf]C[shikashogi [10k\]: dont worry i read it sushisan [4d\]: b too weka Wisp [20k\]: is b e7 good? scurge [5d\]: how do you live after b1? ] ;W[mb]C[Dino9 [6d\]: wow w managed to destroy all b's territory and got some territory ] ;B[hl]C[MikGo [1d\]: what is a weka? Dino9 [6d\]: a8 is sente scurge ] ;W[gk] ;B[gl]C[Tien [7d\]: Taste's good? sushisan [4d\]: weka is not stong nhanh [1d\]: oh B4 atari :) ] ;W[fk]C[scurge [5d\]: aa ibd [5k?\]: it's almost like the sound pacman makes: wakka wakka ] ;B[fl] ;W[ek]C[nhanh [1d\]: what? ] ;B[el] ;W[il]C[Dino9 [6d\]: w wins this game ] ;B[eh]C[Backflash: wakka-wakka indeed Wagaboo [11k\]: b is squished on the 1st line Tien [7d\]: As I said, white too stong Dino9 [6d\]: what is this? sushisan [4d\]: pardon? ] ;W[cm]C[sushisan [4d\]: what did you say? Alternate [?\]: prepare for resign Talio [7k\]: kibits incoming Wagaboo [11k\]: b is dead ] ;B[jl] ;W[im]C[Wagaboo [11k\]: in the bottom no? ] ;B[dm]C[nhanh [1d\]: ?? sagesse [-\]: ko? Dino9 [6d\]: j1 mistake? kill [-\]: H1? Tien [7d\]: All's fine svrcd [?\]: k3 ] ;W[bm]C[kill [-\]: later w can play A8 kill [-\]: and b can't play B8 Wagaboo [11k\]: white is winnong with so much points EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+T Backflash: omg Shedal [2d\]: hehe Dino9 [6d\]: time or res? ibd [5k?\]: t Shedal [2d\]: too bad we didn't see the end scurge [5d\]: Ilya is something :) Wagaboo [11k\]: bottom dead for b Backflash: it is the end actually Shedal [2d\]: Tien, please finish it for us sushisan [4d\]: W+T: teatime sheeryjay [1k\]: H1 lives for black in gote, right? Dino9 [6d\]: y somedo: this was the final??? Wisp [20k\]: B k1? sheeryjay [1k\]: B K1 is suicide Wagaboo [11k\]: yes Wagaboo [11k\]: b dead in the bottom GetStrong [?\]: lol..... Wagaboo [11k\]: and if Wisp [20k\]: k1 k3 h1 j3? Wagaboo [11k\]: b h1 Wagaboo [11k\]: w k3 Wagaboo [11k\]: b f1 Wisp [20k\]: or am i misreading? Wagaboo [11k\]: w play elsewhere and has a bid advantage SuvorovAl [-\]: h1 k3 f1 gast222: was this the final game? sheeryjay [1k\]: Wisp, if black plays H1 right away he can live in gote katarakt [2d?\]: keep k1 as a ko threat and play h1 katarakt [2d?\]: black too much behind still gast222: last game for today? sheeryjay [1k\]: Wisp, this is correct k1 k3 h1 f1 j3 j2 Wagaboo [11k\]: b is abou 10 points behind no? Mdx [8k\]: f1 ? Wisp [20k\]: ic Karcusrd [7k\]: xena reach in the window and grab stones katarakt [2d?\]: no, it's not: After h1 k3 f1 black has still a ko threat by k1 Asaliuru [3k\]: it would be k1 k3 h1 f1 and black dies alex01 [1k?\]: i think also this way gast222: anyone know if this was last game for today? alex01 [1k?\]: i dont know Athanor [-\]: someone must be out of time by now? ])