(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[9000]OT[1x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Go Congress 2010 board 2 Final round 10]PW[Kyoung-nang Kang]PB[Chae-lim Kim]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2010-08-07]RO[10]PC[Tampere, Finland]US[Lisetol = ot]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
scurge [5d\]: ain't it better to broadcast shikshin? wth whom does he play?
Xebo [4d\]: yes - plz broadcast shikshin
Xebo [4d\]: its about the european championship
Xebo [4d\]: If Artem is loosing - everyone wants to see how shikshin is doing
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ilia plays against dinerchtein
Nefeste [5k\]: вфьт
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: goodmorning =D
Nefeste [5k\]: эх и я даже не увижу как динерштейн будет поддаваться ))
alkar: morning.
svrcd [?\]: EuroGo, who win - Dinershteyn or Zeijst?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Zeijst
scurge [5d\]: come on, don't be lazy check te results
Xebo [4d\]: if dinerchtein lost - then pairing is very strange - doesnt dinerchtein have 2 points less compared to Ilya?
svrcd [?\]: why shikshin play with Dinershteyn (MMS 29) and don't play with Zeijst (MMS 30) ?
Xebo [4d\]: valid question
Nefeste [5k\]: потому что все подстроено - это масонский заговор )
]
;B[pp]C[Shedal [2d\]: The mysterious finnish pairing system...
svrcd [?\]: судя по всему, засудив динера, решили и илью засудить
Xebo [4d\]: come on why do you broadcast this game? The european champion is about to be decided this game
Xebo [4d\]: this round*
Xebo [4d\]: we wanna see Ilya
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: The connection is very bad today, 2 days ago KGS also crashed. If the moves go slow etc it means that the internetconnection is dead. There is a possibility to watch the games at IGS, this one is always working fine
Shedal [2d\]: Yes! Please broadcast Ilia's game!
charli [3d?\]: egc page says diner won
beefree27: this or that?
alkar: Please broadcast Ilia's game.
Shedal [2d\]: We don't want to watch koreans playing... we want Ilia!
beefree27: you'll get this and like it!!
Xebo [4d\]: Ilya!
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Zeijst was leading 30 points against Dinerstein yesterday, Zeijst was in byojomi but the sound of the clock wasn't working so the flag felt
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: at first referree decided to give new byojomi and finish the game, but Dinerstein didn't accept this, this morning there was a special meeting and they decided to give dinerstein his rights so result is changed and dinerstein won
kryft [1d\]: Wow. :P
Nefeste [5k\]: its all about clock's sound... i see
erikk [-\]: poor Rob
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: which means that Dinerstein plays Shikshin today, Dinerstein usually loses against Shikshin
erikk [-\]: goedemorgen liselot
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: I just heard that Rob van Zeijst went in higher appealthere 
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: - there
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: there is a new meeting right now
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: hoi Erik
Fruitzilla [-\]: hoi
erikk [-\]: so the pairing could still change?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yes
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Shikshin can't start his game
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: until there is decided what to do
charli [3d?\]: the decision is the right one, but good sportmannship looks different
jezork [4d\]: hard to believe dinerstein would try to win like that
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yeah it sucks so badly
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: he just walked in here
Fruitzilla [-\]: it's the letter vs. the spirit thing again
erikk [-\]: if 30 points behind he sholud have resigned a long time before
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: he can't start his game ofcourse
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yeah exactly
Nefeste [5k\]: it wasn't blitz.. and Rob must feel that he is leading.... why play so careless and think too long..
charli [3d?\]: i mean 30 points lead? wow why not resign then
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: but if he resigns, Rob will play Ilya and there is a bigger chance Ilya will lose against Rob than against Dinerstein
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: which means it's harder for him to become European Champion
Nefeste [5k\]: Dinershtein says there was big furikavari just before time-win
Xebo [4d\]: oh - please broadcast shiskin - vanZeijst if that game should be paired
Nefeste [5k\]: and was hard to estimate score
Minimus: Should be easy for a pro
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Artems game is broadcasted, if Artems wins, he's European champion
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yeah this is Dinerstein his argument
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: but everyone saw he was far behind
Xebo [4d\]: and if artem doesnt win?
Xebo [4d\]: noone will be interested in this game
jezork [4d\]: anywhere one might be able to see the dinerstein game from yesterday?
kryft [1d\]: Nefeste, It's not 'careless' to use the time you have, on the contrary.
Nefeste [5k\]: if i was big lead, i leave at least 5 seconds before byo-yomi ends.. why risk to lose by time..
Nefeste [5k\]: this was really bad accident
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: If Artem lose, Ilya wins.. it's about SOS, Ilya's SOS is better than Artems
Nefeste [5k\]: but i thought Rob should still be winner after appeal comeetee discuss that case..
kryft [1d\]: Nefeste, Of course, but he didn't know byo-yomi was ending because the clock didn't warn him, which it should have. (He's played with Ing clocks numerous times, including the games in this tournament, so it's quite reasonable to rely on this feature.)
Nefeste [5k\]: so its technical failure.. organisers should lose this game, not players
ihatelag [10k\]: this is so intense....
Nefeste [5k\]: like this game with 1 stone hoshi..
kryft [1d\]: Nefeste, Agreed. ;)
kryft [1d\]: Nefeste, It's a bit like the person counting out the byo-yomi in a professional game fell asleep. ;)
kryft [1d\]: +if
Nefeste [5k\]: lol
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;W[pd]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Rob van Zeijst just came to me, he lost his higher appeal, so he lost the game against Dinerstein officially
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;B[dq]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Dinerstein will play Shikshin
N4KED [1d\]: go Diner!
Ludovician [?\]: still vetoed to the rules commission though
svrcd [?\]: go Ilya )
Nefeste [5k\]: and some observers must be watching this moment, but of course no one dare to call "Rob! your time is dries out.." its not accepted to disturb players while important game is going... so sad
Ludovician [?\]: we call it "ing's timer blues"
Nefeste [5k\]: i think 30 pts is too much
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: it was 27.5 pt leading for Rob
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;W[cd]
;B[ed]C[goIngo [-\]: where can I find sgf of dinershtein van zeijst?
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;W[ec]
;B[fc]
;W[dc]
;B[qf]
;W[nc]
;B[gd]C[Ludovician [?\]: i think it doesn't exist in the internet yet
ogre [2d?\]: who is ilia playing against?
erikk [-\]: the rules, the rules..
goIngo [-\]: thx ludo...
N4KED [1d\]: I guess even if Alexandre loses it would still be a huge success cause 2 of his students are ruling over this tournament
ogre [2d?\]: oh diner
ogre [2d?\]: sorry didnt see the kibitz weritten
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Ilya plays Dinerstein
setteko: hoi kanjer
ogre [2d?\]: thank you
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;W[cf]
;B[kc]
;W[qi]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: mammie <3
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ik heb net ingecheckt
setteko: mooi zo verheug me erop
Ludovician [?\]: this calls for a tenuki
ogre [2d?\]: r9 seems ok
Bashan2 [12k?\]: Speaking of malfunctioning clocks; the clock doesn't seem to be running here.
ogre [2d?\]: its not updated
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;B[qd]C[ogre [2d?\]: transcriber would have to imput values every move. its not worth the trouble
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;W[qc]C[Bashan2 [12k?\]: thanks!
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;B[rc]
;W[qe]
;B[rd]
;W[pe]
;B[re]
;W[qb]C[ogre [2d?\]: s13 s14 o15 o14 n14 o13 m15 
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;B[pf]
;W[ne]C[ogre [2d?\]: didnt w peep at s13?
ogre [2d?\]: i count 2 stones there on the live feed
ogre [2d?\]: q14 s13 s14 o15 
ogre [2d?\]: eurogotv2?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: the connection is so terrible, i can't transcribe anything, even in IGS it doesn't work
TheClown [2d\]: perhaps black can throw in q17 if he peeps
ogre [2d?\]: :(
Wen [3k\]: what happened with camera? I can't watch it 
TheClown [2d\]: i like black a little more, but it is probably a standard pattern
ogre [2d?\]: dont mind the camera. the move transcription is more important
ZothOmmog [4k\]: more importantly, how does kang look tonight?
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;B[nf]
;W[mf]
;B[ng]
;W[rg]
;B[rf]
;W[le]C[ogre [2d?\]: there was an s13 exchange happened before o15
Wen [3k\]: fix camera pls =.= i want watch video
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;B[id]C[ogre [2d?\]: call your isp
UFO [3k\]: i cant login
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;W[qn]
;B[nq]C[TheClown [2d\]: if white s4 q8 also - i think too good to allow
ogre [2d?\]: yea
TheClown [2d\]: i think he pince if s4
TheClown [2d\]: o11?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: yuk
ogre [2d?\]: maybe w cant prevent s12 yet
TheClown [2d\]: s18 not that small, if get a good excuse to play there
]
;W[on]C[ogre [2d?\]: ohh 
TheClown [2d\]: if white attack black more direct i think black might take s18
TheClown [2d\]: so this is probably good
ogre [2d?\]: b too safe group 
TheClown [2d\]: it feels a little too slow
ogre [2d?\]: p6 ?
ogre [2d?\]: p6 looks pretty fast to me
TheClown [2d\]: p8?
TheClown [2d\]: ahh it not work well
ogre [2d?\]: p8 q9 
TheClown [2d\]: if black had o4 instead of o3 i p8 now
ogre [2d?\]: still p8 q9 i think
ogre [2d?\]: b push inward will become a target
TheClown [2d\]: white p11 looks good
TheClown [2d\]: so i think he must do something
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: it's a she
TheClown [2d\]: does any europeans have a chance in this tourney?
TheClown [2d\]: or are we too stupid <:o(
furr [?\]: well wise ones would check the results
svrcd [?\]: if artem win, then he is champion )
ogre [2d?\]: artem and ilia are leading
ogre [2d?\]: artem leading
ogre [2d?\]: ilia ahead of kang
TheClown [2d\]: ok
goIngo [-\]: artem in single lead
TheClown [2d\]: nice when i played  we had no EGc we had no chance
setteko: he kanjer ik ga fietsen veel plezier!
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;B[pl]C[a2g [4k\]: will be available sgf of diner - shikins game later?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: oke
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: tot morgen! xx
TheClown [2d\]: fight <:o)
ogre [2d?\]: if ilia wins his game i think he will stay ahead of kang even if she wins this
ogre [2d?\]: diner has 6 points in the tournament
TheClown [2d\]: ¨'that not so many
ogre [2d?\]: for calculating sos
TheClown [2d\]: is it case for q10
TheClown [2d\]: or is it too heavy
ogre [2d?\]: w r9?
TheClown [2d\]: no
ogre [2d?\]: why not
TheClown [2d\]: r8 to good a resonse
ogre [2d?\]: r9 r8 s6 
TheClown [2d\]: o11?
ogre [2d?\]: maybe that idea is psycho
ogre [2d?\]: nah. it might be ok
TheClown [2d\]: not sure white can give up the stones on the side
ogre [2d?\]: play dead
Jax [10k\]: O8 or O9 looks good, but I doubt it is
ZothOmmog [4k\]: p9?
TheClown [2d\]: i think i q10
ogre [2d?\]: r9 r8 s6 s8 r3 o8 o10 i think w i hard to catch
]
;W[oj]
;B[nl]C[ogre [2d?\]: and w got corner
TheClown [2d\]: hmmm
TheClown [2d\]: then indead i prefer q10 to this
TheClown [2d\]: this move have no watari potential
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;W[mi]C[jascooper [6k?\]: Kang playing awful slow today.  Usually she is much faster.
ogre [2d?\]: w play s6 later
]
;B[rh]C[ogre [2d?\]: s6 miai corner and connect
]
;W[qh]
;B[qg]
;W[ri]
;B[sg]C[TheClown [2d\]: n6
]
;W[mp]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: boom!~
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;B[np]C[TheClown [2d\]: whit attack looks good
ogre [2d?\]: so this is how you do it
TheClown [2d\]: very resilient shape
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;W[no]C[globax [2d\]: n4 is beautiful
ogre [2d?\]: get strong at kake
TheClown [2d\]: n9 looks like the shape
globax [2d\]: looks slow
grumpyjoe [-\]: kang is checking out artem
grumpyjoe [-\]: if he loses, does she have a chance to win?
Trivia [2k?\]: Kangis yawning
ogre [2d?\]: w will dodge n9
Nefeste [5k\]: Kang watching wine carte
seikenguy [-\]: HI, can I have the link for this stream please?
Pingpong4k [3k?\]: google eurogotv
st21 [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
ZothOmmog [4k\]: n6
ogre [2d?\]: w looks ahead to me
happydog [7k\]: Anyone in Finland able to view the stream at the moment?
grumpyjoe [-\]: she actually seems to do better when she is behind
ZothOmmog [4k\]: double entrendre
dncrash: :))
ogre [2d?\]: b could try q7 but looks dangerous
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;B[ll]
;W[ln]
;B[lr]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: s3
ZothOmmog [4k\]: hmm l4 first?
]
;W[mg]
;B[jl]
;W[jn]
;B[hl]C[Nefeste [5k\]: pacman game
ogre [2d?\]: w can s8 anytime to connect
]
;W[do]C[ogre [2d?\]: s8 q7 q6 s9 r8 
Nefeste [5k\]: s4 not sente for w?..
Shipper [3k\]: not necessarily when B has an escape route
ZothOmmog [4k\]: yeah, s4 too small
Nefeste [5k\]: w looks in control.. hope she has enough strength..
DERM [1d?\]: ег
]
;B[fq]
;W[fo]C[erikk [-\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?IkkenTobiIsNeverWrong
ZothOmmog [4k\]: o11?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: nope
ogre [2d?\]: really ikken tobi is wrong often enough. still its one of your first candidate moves in many situations
edlee [1k\]: EuroGoTV, can you see the time left for each player?
erikk [-\]: 7 ikken tobi's in the last 10 moves or so
ogre [2d?\]: yeah :)
]
;B[ho]C[RayFrost [4k\]: h4!
ZothOmmog [4k\]: k3
ogre [2d?\]: cut the hazami?
ogre [2d?\]: seems like w should prefer a severe move about now
ZothOmmog [4k\]: l2
ogre [2d?\]: cut the hazami = g4 btw
ZothOmmog [4k\]: elephant get shot
]
;W[hn]
;B[gn]
;W[go]C[RayFrost [4k\]: no, the genius move is clearly e1
ZothOmmog [4k\]: thats so stupid its genius!
]
;B[in]
;W[io]
;B[hm]
;W[hp]C[ogre [2d?\]: megakolon?
]
;B[hn]C[Orandajinn [2d?\]: buk
]
;W[gq]C[RayFrost [4k\]: it's so crazy it's stupid, it's so stupid it's crazy... but it just might work
]
;B[jo]
;W[ip]
;B[kn]
;W[ko]
;B[jm]
;W[jp]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: its a 1 in a million chance, and those work out 9/10 times.
ogre [2d?\]: l4 ?
shikashogi [10k\]: m5?
RayFrost [4k\]: but fate has 999,999 votes
]
;B[rp]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: thats huge
ogre [2d?\]: r8 still connects for w
ZothOmmog [4k\]: c3
ogre [2d?\]: what can w do to lower left
ZothOmmog [4k\]: c3
Syptryn [3d\]: white is a difficult position...
Syptryn [3d\]: black mid too thick to attack
Syptryn [3d\]: white has no terriroty
RayFrost [4k\]: w + resigning
ZothOmmog [4k\]: too soon to res
ogre [2d?\]: c3 c2 c4 e2 looks like b easy alive
ZothOmmog [4k\]: why c4?
kryft [1d\]: ZothOmmog, Erm, why not?
RayFrost [4k\]: e2 for w!
ZothOmmog [4k\]: c3 c2 d4
RayFrost [4k\]: d4 isn't good, imo
dilos [3d\]: c3 c2 d4 e2 
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;W[he]C[Syptryn [3d\]: white desparate
]
;B[hd]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: h15 interesting
]
;W[fe]
;B[fd]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: how does b respond to e2?
Syptryn [3d\]: c5 ?
]
;W[cq]
;B[cr]
;W[br]C[twold [1k\]: o_O
ogre [2d?\]: didnt think of b2 here 
Syptryn [3d\]: ya that is cool
ZothOmmog [4k\]: heh c3!
Syptryn [3d\]: c-4 seems oly option dangerous tho
ogre [2d?\]: c3 seems to give w something to attack
Syptryn [3d\]: or B3 is blak wants to be super submissive
ogre [2d?\]: c4 i meaned
Syptryn [3d\]: either that or death by ko
ZothOmmog [4k\]: b looks dead
dilos [3d\]: b3 could die
ogre [2d?\]: b center got too strong tho
Syptryn [3d\]: black center should be okay
ogre [2d?\]: if center wasnt so strong this looks so great for w
SenYuki [3d\]: c4 looked better than c2
ZothOmmog [4k\]: not really
ZothOmmog [4k\]: this has better potential
ogre [2d?\]: doesnt b all die if b3?
ogre [2d?\]: b3 c4 a2 b1 c1 b4 a1 e2 f2 e3 e4 d2 
]
;B[bq]
;W[cp]
;B[bs]C[ogre [2d?\]: oh isee then b can e3
ogre [2d?\]: i mean e2
ZothOmmog [4k\]: d2
ZothOmmog [4k\]: or a2?
Syptryn [3d\]: submissive
ogre [2d?\]: a2 e2 
ZothOmmog [4k\]: a2 it is
]
;W[ar]
;B[er]
;W[bp]
;B[ep]C[N4KED [1d\]: sente life
Syptryn [3d\]: woo nice, sente
]
;W[eo]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: d8 i guess
Syptryn [3d\]: c10 
ZothOmmog [4k\]: yeah
ZothOmmog [4k\]: wellllllll
BigJimBeef [7k\]: Should B start extending towards the middle soon? Or is Left hand side bigger?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: b has middle
albundy [2k\]: so slow
]
;B[ch]C[ogre [2d?\]: c12 is not slow
ZothOmmog [4k\]: i was guessing c12
ZothOmmog [4k\]: well, c11 really
Excalibor [-\]: heh... i do love the 18x18 boards at the Congress Posters  :-)
Geert [?\]: I would have guessed C13
ZothOmmog [4k\]: but c11 slower than c12
ikong [3k\]: W should N8
ZothOmmog [4k\]: not
Syptryn [3d\]: c9 e12 e14 ?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: c9 seems the only move
]
;W[ee]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: c9 now i guess
catsoldier [6k\]: What's with the video stream?
catsoldier [6k\]: for me it's off air
nooos [14k?\]: me too
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;B[ck]
;W[lc]
;B[lb]C[TaksiMies [2k\]: me too
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;W[kd]
;B[jc]
;W[mb]
;B[ge]
;W[gf]C[grumpyjoe [-\]: just refresh
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;B[de]C[ogre [2d?\]: d16?
]
;W[df]
;B[dd]
;W[ce]
;B[cc]C[ogre [2d?\]: ph yeah that first
]
;W[cb]
;B[bc]
;W[bb]
;B[fb]
;W[ea]
;B[eb]
;W[db]C[Syptryn [3d\]: err
Syptryn [3d\]: strange move
]
;B[eh]C[ogre [2d?\]: why?
]
;W[hf]C[Syptryn [3d\]: ko threat wastered
ZothOmmog [4k\]: h14 awsome
Syptryn [3d\]: white won't play there immediatelu
]
;B[hh]
;W[kb]
;B[jb]
;W[la]C[Syptryn [3d\]: black also lose F-19 sente
Syptryn [3d\]: which means that he may need to make life in gote now...
ZothOmmog [4k\]: d19
Syptryn [3d\]: white gained here
ogre [2d?\]: pro games ive seen tend to prefer to play at e18
Syptryn [3d\]: more poits, but you play it later...
ogre [2d?\]: never really thought hard about e18 tho .
Mipaline [6k?\]: h18 necessery?
Syptryn [3d\]: that's why black shoudla just left it and played E-12 immediately
Syptryn [3d\]: then M-19 won't be sente for white
catsoldier [6k\]: refresh doesn't work
ZothOmmog [4k\]: k14?
ikong [3k\]: N8 is big for w *-*
ZothOmmog [4k\]: b move
ZothOmmog [4k\]: n8 bad
ZothOmmog [4k\]: doesnt work
ikong [3k\]: can you counter it
ZothOmmog [4k\]: yea
ZothOmmog [4k\]: n9
ikong [3k\]: Gimme sequence
ZothOmmog [4k\]: n8 n9 n7 o9
ikong [3k\]: then you get jump into b's potential center
sameasyou [2d\]: e7
ogre [2d?\]: syptryn . if b gets d19 later w have to remove one lib from b17
ZothOmmog [4k\]: yes. thats why d19
Syptryn [3d\]: yes but d-19 isn't sente :S
ZothOmmog [4k\]: k14 sente
]
;B[ff]
;W[ef]
;B[fg]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: man k14 first
]
;W[jf]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: see?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: b wasted it
]
;B[hb]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: now gote life :(
ogre [2d?\]: no way
Syptryn [3d\]: k-14 would will be gote afterw hite connects...
ogre [2d?\]: f13 is make b thicker
Syptryn [3d\]: since black can't link up in 1 ove even after k-14
ogre [2d?\]: b k14 mean nothing
Syptryn [3d\]: poor black, e-18 mistake punished
ZothOmmog [4k\]: e8
ZothOmmog [4k\]: hmm. l10 might be better
ogre [2d?\]: looking pretty tough for w i think
ZothOmmog [4k\]: l10 makes n8 nice
Syptryn [3d\]: yeah, white gained abi there, but she was significnalty behind
strong10k [-\]: black very strong
strong10k [-\]: beat illa yesterday
Syptryn [3d\]: ya
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;W[el]C[radishimo [4k\]: link?
radishimo [4k\]: need to see what kang is wearing today
N4KED [1d\]: How is Diner doing in his game?
radishimo [4k\]: stripes. i like it
N4KED [1d\]: and short shorts :-)
ogre [2d?\]: w cant make many points on bottom even though g2 is sente
YangXu [4d\]: what does kang look like? lol vid doesntw ork XD
radishimo [4k\]: tattooed guy in the swim trunks needs to.. get the crap beat out of him
radishimo [4k\]: YOU DO NOT LOOK COOL
]
;B[dl]C[edlee [1k\]: radishimo, language.
GoShinobi [-\]: how is stream working for you ?
mikan [2d?\]: You get angry at every uncool person you meet?
strong10k [-\]: you mean cristian pop?
GoShinobi [-\]: not working for me
YangXu [4d\]: same, but maybe cuz im in china
radishimo [4k\]: i said something that was bad language? o.O
sorglos [3k\]: is b bottom left alive or dead? 
ogre [2d?\]: its alive
strong10k [-\]: 3k cant read 2 eyes?
sorglos [3k\]: looks like :-)
]
;W[ij]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: j10 bold
ZothOmmog [4k\]: nice move
Koukkaaja [3d\]: clearcut aim
strong10k [-\]: black cant be killed or separated
N4KED [1d\]: kang is too good
ogre [2d?\]: there is a pic of kang on her website yangxu
ogre [2d?\]: http://www.baduklessons.com/index.htm
]
;B[hj]C[ogre [2d?\]: you might be able to use proxy for view stream
ZothOmmog [4k\]: l10 big
catsoldier [6k\]: I was not able to use a proxy.
strong10k [-\]: you can actually major in go at an asian university?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: wield
ZothOmmog [4k\]: wierd
]
;W[dk]C[ogre [2d?\]: wow
grumpyjoe [-\]: if you think about it, it's not much different from something like piano or violin
iancho [1d\]: or basketball
grumpyjoe [-\]: you can major in basketball?
mikan [2d?\]: Really?
ogre [2d?\]: e9 d10 c10 work?
]
;B[em]C[Syptryn [3d\]: c8 d7 c10 b9 b10 b8 b12 is one option
ManOfLOL [21k\]: is the game over?
ogre [2d?\]: oh so b was just trying to play it safe?
]
;W[di]C[Syptryn [3d\]: what needs to play very risyky
Syptryn [3d\]: he is behind
Syptryn [3d\]: d12 c8 d7 b9 c10 c11 b10 b11 b8 d10 c7 b12 white's plan?
ManOfLOL [21k\]: so um is the game still going on?
hhh9998: yes
ManOfLOL [21k\]: aright thanks
ogre [2d?\]: d12 c10 e9 e10 maybe
ogre [2d?\]: a ko
hhh9998: np
Syptryn [3d\]: mmm, Kang looks like she's posing
ogre [2d?\]: the vid just stopped moving 
N4KED [1d\]: cam is frozen
ogre [2d?\]: sound still going tho
N4KED [1d\]: okay fixed
]
;B[dh]C[ogre [2d?\]: c10
]
;W[cl]
;B[dm]
;W[bk]
;B[cj]
;W[ci]
;B[bj]C[Syptryn [3d\]: yup
]
;W[bi]
;B[dj]C[Syptryn [3d\]: my read :D
Syptryn [3d\]: oh that ws not my read haha
ZothOmmog [4k\]: d10
ZothOmmog [4k\]: e10
]
;W[ei]C[Syptryn [3d\]: b8 
Nicl22 [3k\]: Why is leading?
Nicl22 [3k\]: Who
ZothOmmog [4k\]: b12 is risky
ogre [2d?\]: w is connected
]
;B[bh]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: is shhe?
ogre [2d?\]: e10 e9 a10 d9 b7 c7 b8 b6 c6 
shivansh [?\]: hi, i'm new, what is happening here?
ogre [2d?\]: well i didnt read out damezumari
ZothOmmog [4k\]: e10 a10?
ogre [2d?\]: maybe its an oiotoshi actually
ogre [2d?\]: yeah it is
ogre [2d?\]: w not connected
ogre [2d?\]: need another lib 
ZothOmmog [4k\]: a10 now
Nicl22 [3k\]: seems connected to me, ogre
ZothOmmog [4k\]: then connected
Mipaline [6k?\]: e10
Syptryn [3d\]: a10 e10 f10 e9 f12 
twold [1k\]: a10 works for me too
Nicl22 [3k\]: a10, e9, b7 how cut?
ogre [2d?\]: nicl its an oiotoshi
Jax [10k\]: a10 followed by b7?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: then e10
Mipaline [6k?\]: e10 kills the group in sente
ogre [2d?\]: w can play g10 tho
ZothOmmog [4k\]: a10 seems best
Nicl22 [3k\]: can somebody help me count
Nicl22 [3k\]: who is leading
ogre [2d?\]: after forcing exchange
Nicl22 [3k\]: white feels ahead ?
ogre [2d?\]: e10 e9 a10 d9 g10 h11 b7 c7 b8 b6 c6 lets w connect
ogre [2d?\]: maybe g11 is better than g10 tho
ogre [2d?\]: cause what if b goes g11
Nicl22 [3k\]: Did anyone try to count?
Nicl22 [3k\]: I think 40 for black and 35 for white, not including komi
]
;W[ah]C[Nicl22 [3k\]: okay, we obviously missed something
Nicl22 [3k\]: haha
]
;B[aj]C[Jax [10k\]: trying to connect with c14 group?
Syptryn [3d\]: how is this good for white?
ogre [2d?\]: i dont know what w is doing
Syptryn [3d\]: A-10 or E-10 looked much easier
Syptryn [3d\]: white is massive trouble now
ogre [2d?\]: w try to eat d12 some how?
IceSpectre [4k\]: w can;t connect 
Nicl22 [3k\]: White's style seems risk-loving? 
IceSpectre [4k\]: w seems about to resign 
Syptryn [3d\]: A-10 was a fine rsul for white already
ogre [2d?\]: this is intense
N4KED [1d\]: e10
ogre [2d?\]: a11 now
ZothOmmog [4k\]: a11 asks for death
ogre [2d?\]: w try to avoid b get a16 later
Mipaline [6k?\]: f11
ogre [2d?\]: by playing a11 and then b13
ZothOmmog [4k\]: a11 b13 then?
ogre [2d?\]: e9
ZothOmmog [4k\]: e10
ogre [2d?\]: bad move
ZothOmmog [4k\]: hmmm b8
Mipaline [6k?\]: g11 g10 E10
ogre [2d?\]: a11 b13 e9 b8 c7 b7 c6 
ZothOmmog [4k\]: dont you mean c7?
ogre [2d?\]: when
ZothOmmog [4k\]: instead of c6
ogre [2d?\]: thats the 5th move in my sequence
ogre [2d?\]: w cant play there
Mipaline [6k?\]: b strong in defending
Mipaline [6k?\]: like against Ilya yesterday¨
ogre [2d?\]: leads to a semeai i think
Nicl22 [3k\]: Isn't Chae-lim also a girls' name? Is this woman's finals or are they playing in the same tournament as men, just coincidence? 
Gizensha [?\]: ?
Gizensha [?\]: why would they play in different tournaments?
Nicl22 [3k\]: In a lot of sports they separate men and women for some reason
Gizensha [?\]: i can understand that in physical sports but i see no reason in mental ones
]
;W[ai]C[Gizensha [?\]: though i know there are women only pro tourneys
ZothOmmog [4k\]: well, let the fun begin
eatramen [22k\]: well for years men have been suyperior in mind games, not being sexist just stating facts so thats why
ogre [2d?\]: maybe w cant get enough libs or there will be a ko at f12
ZothOmmog [4k\]: suyperior, aheup
BALLZ [3k\]: might be tradition, women cant easily devote themselves to games
ZothOmmog [4k\]: you know, not wasting time on useless crap
Nicl22 [3k\]: yes exactly. There is some research that demonstrates men have the advantage in (say) spatial ability that gives them an edge in board games. But actually, that's not the reason men do better, because the difference is so small
ogre [2d?\]: hmm
Nicl22 [3k\]: men do better because more men train hard for the game than there are women who train hard for the game
ogre [2d?\]: maybe after b gos b8 w can play e10 sente and go f12
Nicl22 [3k\]: A woman that trains hard for the game will beat most men too ; ) as we see here
eatramen [22k\]: so you're saying its quantity over quality nicl22?
jascooper [6k?\]: If it was just training, you would have a much better percentage of women succeeding
eatramen [22k\]: they're both women
Nicl22 [3k\]: they've beaten a lot of men to come here eatramen
Syptryn [3d\]: well studies have showed that while average IQ of men and women are identical, the standard variation isn't
Syptryn [3d\]: there's more super smart men and more super dumb men
jascooper [6k?\]: I think it is focus.  the hunting vs gathering
eatramen [22k\]: yes nicl22 but were talking about the top players here
ogre [2d?\]: lets focus on the super dumb men
Syptryn [3d\]: there are 9x more men in jail than women
Gizensha [?\]: i prefere not to talk about myself ;p
eatramen [22k\]: lol
Nicl22 [3k\]: It's about talent pool. More men playing means that a 1 in a million prodigy has a bigger chance of arising in the men's talent pool than in the women's talent pool.
Nessus [10k\]: IQ is adjusted so that it is equal for average men and average women.
eatramen [22k\]: me too gizen =)
ogre [2d?\]: rolling stone
eatramen [22k\]: a rolling stone gathers no mass
eatramen [22k\]: well nicl22 now you
]
;B[bg]C[eatramen [22k\]: r
ogre [2d?\]: !!!!
eatramen [22k\]: taking about chance
ogre [2d?\]: b is taking the leap
ogre [2d?\]: e9?
eatramen [22k\]: which makes sense, but your looking at it in a slightly diff way
ogre [2d?\]: e9 b8 e10 c7 f12 
Gizensha [?\]: well there might be a difference in male and female intelligence but the cultural influence as it is now is too strong to say what that diffenrence might be
Syptryn [3d\]: dunno why she thinkig
Syptryn [3d\]: she must have conisdered his move
Syptryn [3d\]: already
eatramen [22k\]: theyre both women
Nicl22 [3k\]: Say a big talent in go has a 1% chance of arising in a given pool of players. More men playing * that 1% means more male talents. In the same sense, a really big top pro mr/mrs awesome has a 1% chance of arising between THAT group of talents. More talents = more chance or mr/mrs awesome. That's why men do better, not because of biological disadvantage
Koukkaaja [3d\]: ogre your seq fails
Nicl22 [3k\]: Syptryn: of course, but now she can read 1 move further ahead ; )
BALLZ [3k\]: what you are saying is cultural/traditional disadvantages, not biological
ledeiR [3d?\]: maybe w f11 
Nicl22 [3k\]: exatly, BALLZ!
Syptryn [3d\]: lol
]
;W[ek]C[eatramen [22k\]: but nicl22 men have higher Elo's overall regardless
mFz [3k\]: woot
]
;B[bl]C[mFz [3k\]: i would play f9 !!
TheClown [2d\]: f12
ogre [2d?\]: dang. the stream died for me 
eatramen [22k\]: refresh
jascooper [6k?\]: The Polgar sisters are good evidence of the "cultural", but even they didn't go all the way
eatramen [22k\]: yes
eatramen [22k\]: they are amazing chess players
G0blin [12k?\]: stream dead
Syptryn [3d\]: e10 c7 g11 h11 f12 g12 f11 g10 e13 g13 b14 
Syptryn [3d\]: white 1 liberty ahead?
jascooper [6k?\]: with superb training and talent
Nicl22 [3k\]: jascooper: now image you have 100 polgar sisters, what do you think about the chance one of them would be world champion now? Better? That's my point!
eatramen [22k\]: but even judith couldnt compare to kasparov 
AllNewSad [3d\]: c7 ?
TheClown [2d\]: is f12 a move?
]
;W[cm]C[Nicl22 [3k\]: F12 is certainly a move. I don't know if it is a good one, though.
ogre [2d?\]: i thought f12 was interesting
Gizensha [?\]: neither did many men compare to Kasparov ;)
eatramen [22k\]: haha true
Syptryn [3d\]: c-7 doesn't work
ogre [2d?\]: but f12 f11 looks working for b
Syptryn [3d\]: I think
ledeiR [3d?\]: e10 
ogre [2d?\]: so i like the g11 idea
Syptryn [3d\]: c6 b7 a9 b6 e10 
sameasyou [2d\]: f7
eatramen [22k\]: but i just wanted to compare the strongest female vs the strongest male 
jascooper [6k?\]: but, a 4th Polgar sister might have been good enough...they seemed to be getting better
ogre [2d?\]: e10 is good tho
Renshuu02 [1k\]: just escaping E8 seems enough to win
Nicl22 [3k\]: right
ogre [2d?\]: woooow!!! b should have just played it safe
ledeiR [3d?\]: b is ok
Syptryn [3d\]: I still think E-10 was better
ogre [2d?\]: e10 when
ogre [2d?\]: e10 instead of b13?
eatramen [22k\]: jascooper, i guess they just wanted to outdo the other
ogre [2d?\]: yeah probably
ZothOmmog [4k\]: b dead
ogre [2d?\]: b b13 is madness
]
;B[ej]C[sameasyou [2d\]: b not dead
ogre [2d?\]: oh
whatisgo [2d\]: any results from other games?
ogre [2d?\]: w didnt just go c7? argh
Nicl22 [3k\]: so you are saying, Renshuu02, white will F7 now?
ogre [2d?\]: isnt this bad for w?
deft [3d\]: f10 a9 f12 
deft [3d\]: complicated fight, isn't it?
Syptryn [3d\]: white looks 1 liberty behind
Renshuu02 [1k\]: F7 letting E11 dying why not
Renshuu02 [1k\]: but
deft [3d\]: the problem is what happens to the E12 stones
Renshuu02 [1k\]: maybe there is better
deft [3d\]: there are some ways W can make a trade
ZothOmmog [4k\]: exactly
]
;W[fj]
;B[ak]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: e12 doesnt have libs
ogre [2d?\]: f12 does not look to work for me
Syptryn [3d\]: I read f12 variation to be 1 liberty behind for white
Jax [10k\]: sacrifice a11 group and go f7 
Syptryn [3d\]: white can
Syptryn [3d\]: 't
ledeiR [3d?\]: f7 is small
Syptryn [3d\]: he'll los
Syptryn [3d\]: se
Nicl22 [3k\]: she*
Syptryn [3d\]: is white played E=10 instead of C-7
Syptryn [3d\]: he coulda won this fight
ZothOmmog [4k\]: she
Nicl22 [3k\]: she*
eatramen [22k\]: SHE
ZothOmmog [4k\]: white play a10 easy win
ogre [2d?\]: f11 f9 
Nicl22 [3k\]: if white playes a10 now., b10 group is in dame zuwari, but I think black will call the referee
]
;W[fi]C[ogre [2d?\]: b f9
]
;B[fh]C[ogre [2d?\]: oh
Jax [10k\]: h11
Jax [10k\]: no f7
ogre [2d?\]: w g9 looks good now
deft [3d\]: B7 is ko?
ogre [2d?\]: b messed up
Syptryn [3d\]: g9 h9 b7 
ogre [2d?\]: protect f9 cut first
Syptryn [3d\]: black F-1 with premature
Syptryn [3d\]: had to f-9
Syptryn [3d\]: yeah
Syptryn [3d\]: f12 bad
deft [3d\]: ah no
]
;W[hk]C[Syptryn [3d\]: that works too
ogre [2d?\]: maybe this same
Syptryn [3d\]: even mroe nasty though
Syptryn [3d\]: creates a cutting point in black
deft [3d\]: nice!
ogre [2d?\]: now b is doooooomed!!!!!
]
;B[hi]C[jascooper [6k?\]: Gobig or go home
Syptryn [3d\]: g9 
ogre [2d?\]: goooooo KANG!!!!!
grumpyjoe [-\]: kang is the future of go
]
;W[gk]
;B[ik]
;W[bm]
;B[cn]
;W[bn]C[Syptryn [3d\]: nw artem needs to deal with hsi own problem...
]
;B[bo]C[ogre [2d?\]: too much steps for b
]
;W[dn]
;B[fk]
;W[fl]
;B[fm]C[AllNewSad [3d\]: a6 
jascooper [6k?\]: ko
kimidori [1d\]: A7
sameasyou [2d\]: f9?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: a7 white loses
grumpyjoe [-\]: k9 first
AllNewSad [3d\]: a6 a8 :)
sameasyou [2d\]: w dead
kimidori [1d\]: why?
Vabank [1d\]: ko not dead
ZothOmmog [4k\]: a6 ok
sameasyou [2d\]: not ko
jascooper [6k?\]: turns to ko
sameasyou [2d\]: ah
IkaGo [3k\]: I see no ko
Pinguschaf [6d?\]: no Ko
sameasyou [2d\]: I'm 20k
sameasyou [2d\]: a6 is ko indeed
Renshuu02 [1k\]: but after A6
kimidori [1d\]: a6 a8
kimidori [1d\]: no ko
Renshuu02 [1k\]: G8 induces F9
Vabank [1d\]: a6 a8 and b dead :P
Renshuu02 [1k\]: then A8 to lauch the ko and taking it back can kill white shape
sameasyou [2d\]: so w dead unconditionally
sameasyou [2d\]: poor Kang...she had such a great start
ZothOmmog [4k\]: what?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: a6 ko
jascooper [6k?\]: c5 g8 f9 g10 a8 a7 a6 
sameasyou [2d\]: if w a6 then b a8...no ko
ZothOmmog [4k\]: c5= B+ res
]
;W[an]C[Renshuu02 [1k\]: even if A6 is a ko, the ko is in balck favor
]
;B[gl]C[kimidori [1d\]: still Ko
]
;W[fk]
;B[ag]C[Nicl22 [3k\]: yes but w has a local ko threat
Nicl22 [3k\]: at k9
]
;W[al]
;B[am]
;W[jk]
;B[il]
;W[al]C[Koukkaaja [3d\]: uh
]
;B[bd]C[Nicl22 [3k\]: w has to ignore anything now
kimidori [1d\]: :o
IceSpectre [4k\]: haha 
Nicl22 [3k\]: oh but this is BIG
IceSpectre [4k\]: what bigger ? 
ZothOmmog [4k\]: count
kimidori [1d\]: poor W
twold [1k\]: doesn't have to ignore everything i think. n7 cut seems pretty big threat
ogre [2d?\]: glad that mw guy didnt come around today
twold [1k\]: not big enough though
ogre [2d?\]: i mean mf
Syptryn [3d\]: white still has threat at j19 
Syptryn [3d\]: but this is multi threat
Nicl22 [3k\]: yes this is too big
deft [3d\]: is J19 a threat?!
ZothOmmog [4k\]: count threats
jezork [4d\]: ignore
liebesleid [2d\]: this is too big
ogre [2d?\]: i think w bootom can live with g2 sente?
ZothOmmog [4k\]: white doesnt have enough threats
ZothOmmog [4k\]: or does she?
twold [1k\]: never mind her bottom
sameasyou [2d\]: t12 threat, t14, d1, g2
ZothOmmog [4k\]: I will never never mind her bottom
twold [1k\]: good
ogre [2d?\]: b wins this ko b bottom not clearly dead
twold [1k\]: is something like r3 threat for w?
Nicl22 [3k\]: wait was black's bottom dead?
ogre [2d?\]: i mean w bottom
Nicl22 [3k\]: ah
jascooper [6k?\]: can W give up c14 and go after the H7 group
ogre [2d?\]: no
ogre [2d?\]: h7 group is far too strong
ZothOmmog [4k\]: q4 group maybe....
Nicl22 [3k\]: w cannot ignore this threat
Nicl22 [3k\]: too big
neHb [1k\]: B+R
sameasyou [2d\]: really?
avio [2d\]: this threat is 50 points
Psykeeper [?\]: this game
Psykeeper [?\]: ~_~
Psykeeper [?\]: problems everywhere
svrcd [?\]: SE so funny )
Nicl22 [3k\]: the ko is 60 points though
Nicl22 [3k\]: ^^
ZothOmmog [4k\]: W+199.5
IceSpectre [4k\]: 52 points threat 
Psykeeper [?\]: cant blame white for playing emotionally considering she's a girl
ZothOmmog [4k\]: cant blame a stupid comment from a guy
ledeiR [3d?\]: yep^^
Psykeeper [?\]: but it is a premature ko ):
ogre [2d?\]: your premature
Psykeeper [?\]: the ko even more so
Koukkaaja [3d\]: PMK syndrome
Syptryn [3d\]: corner is bigger
Syptryn [3d\]: white should respond
jascooper [6k?\]: How is the time for the players
Syptryn [3d\]: then play j19 
cherisse [1k\]: oh kang is here
Syptryn [3d\]: this was originally blacks terriroty, so whitemight be okay if he kills k18  or f3 in exchange
jascooper [6k?\]: they in byo-yomi, yet
Nicl22 [3k\]: Is this game streamed?
ledeiR [3d?\]: k18 f3 can t be killed :/
ogre [2d?\]: the probem is. b has a few ko threats in upper left
pinpingho [-\]: I would like to see you kill k18
ogre [2d?\]: w cant threaten s15 execp for a ko there
ogre [2d?\]: and easy to ko threat against bottom w
ogre [2d?\]: i think w need end the ko
ogre [2d?\]: or threat against g2 that is not so big looking
ledeiR [3d?\]: b got another threat at a15 
ledeiR [3d?\]: if w answers
pinpingho [-\]: w can't give up corner if w does it's gg
Psykeeper [?\]: white has no ko threats
]
;W[bk]C[Jax [10k\]: how many points will w gain if she captures
jezork [4d\]: so, ignore and play g2 only option
jezork [4d\]: ?
Psykeeper [?\]: she loses points
pinpingho [-\]: eh...
]
;B[ab]C[liebesleid [2d\]: that is suprising
]
;W[ro]C[Psykeeper [?\]: notrly
ledeiR [3d?\]: only choice
]
;B[qq]
;W[ol]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: nicely done
kimidori [1d\]: cutting tobi
liebesleid [2d\]: ko?
kimidori [1d\]: the only 1 way
ZothOmmog [4k\]: ko
jezork [4d\]: there can be only one..
]
;B[ok]
;W[om]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: white is npw +212/5
ZothOmmog [4k\]: now +212.5
ledeiR [3d?\]: q9 
sameasyou [2d\]: white lost
]
;B[nk]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: no ko. b loses
Psykeeper [?\]: U mad?
]
;W[pk]
;B[pj]
;W[qk]C[nanok [?\]: who's the guy watching?
]
;B[kj]
;W[gr]
;B[fr]
;W[si]
;B[rb]
;W[ra]C[nanok [?\]: is e2 dead?
ledeiR [3d?\]: no
]
;B[sh]
;W[ji]
;B[ki]
;W[jh]C[N4KED [1d\]: euro go make a mistake I think
]
;B[jj]
;W[ii]C[N4KED [1d\]: c17 has no stone
]
;B[kh]
;W[kg]C[N4KED [1d\]: or maybe I am wrong
]
;B[ig]
;W[jg]
;B[if]
;W[ie]C[ogre [2d?\]: upper left is all b terrory
]
;B[je]C[N4KED [1d\]: so yes white died in upper left
]
;W[jd]
;B[gg]
;W[ke]C[Jax [10k\]: seems close
]
;B[jr]
;W[po]C[A1R [4k\]: dont b15 work?
kimidori [1d\]: SE say B+13
]
;B[qp]C[ogre [2d?\]: b15 a15 
]
;W[jn]C[yamashitaK [5d\]: very close
]
;B[km]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: p12
]
;W[nj]
;B[oh]
;W[ph]
;B[oi]
;W[pi]
;B[ir]C[ZothOmmog [4k\]: p13
]
;W[ae]
;B[be]
;W[bf]
;B[af]
;W[je]
;B[qo]
;W[rn]
;B[lp]
;W[mq]
;B[mr]
;W[lq]
;B[kq]
;W[mo]
;B[kp]
;W[hg]
;B[ih]
;W[mk]
;B[ml]C[Orandajinn [2d?\]: go Kang!
]
;W[of]
;B[og]
;W[oe]
;B[pg]
;W[ca]
;B[aa]C[Sjonny [8k\]: ouch
Psykeeper [?\]: owch..?
Nicl22 [3k\]: Does white still have a chance?
zakatan [6k\]: what did ilia do?
nanotech [2k\]: w r very soon
Psykeeper [?\]: you have to be a girl to waste a ko threat with something like c19
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: B + res
yamashitaK [5d\]: oh noooo 
kimidori [1d\]: poor W
yamashitaK [5d\]: yes poor cute girl
Dita [3d?\]: :(
Orandajinn [2d?\]: :(
Shedal [2d\]: hehe
Shedal [2d\]: what about Ilya?
ogre [2d?\]: i think that e10 would have been better than c7
jascooper [6k?\]: EuroGoTV: I've enjoyed the week.  Thanks!!
adiida [3k\]: what about Catalin?
cherisse [1k\]: oh, same kim who beat ilya
grumpyjoe [-\]: man, this is enough to make a guy grumpy for the next 12 months
eatramen [22k\]: werd
eatramen [22k\]: lol
Syptryn [3d\]: I dun thinkw hite should have taken ko
Syptryn [3d\]: corner bigger than side + random advanategw htie gets from threat
grumpyjoe [-\]: go eat your ramen
eatramen [22k\]: kang gave away two games in a row, nooooooo
nooos [14k?\]: yes, why not b15 at that time?
jascooper [6k?\]: Next year, can the play the games VERY early in the morning, so I can get so sleep over here?
ogre [2d?\]: maybe not
eatramen [22k\]: haha jascooper i agree, but it would inconvenience them
jascooper [6k?\]: who cares about "them?"
eatramen [22k\]: lol
eatramen [22k\]: it's 7:36 am here o_0
jascooper [6k?\]: No, it's 6.36
jascooper [6k?\]: the only place that counts is where I am
eatramen [22k\]: ok sir, sorry
jascooper [6k?\]: It's good to be an American
nanok [?\]: eatramen: that's how i felt during the honinbo matches. <at work> hard night, huh? ugggh</>
eatramen [22k\]: well i am in america too ya know
eatramen [22k\]: lmao
jascooper [6k?\]: :))
jascooper [6k?\]: Again, EuroGoTV, thanks...see you next time.
Goliamus [6k\]: who win ?
eatramen [22k\]: yes it was very enjoyable
eatramen [22k\]: kim won
Goliamus [6k\]: ok
Goliamus [6k\]: ty
nanok [?\]: yeah, eurogo, you rock ;)
G0blin [12k?\]: Thank you for this broadcast EuroGoTV! :)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: your welcome 
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: lert
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: lets check Artems game
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: =D
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