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GN[European Go Congress 2010 board 1 round 9]PW[Chae-lim Kim]PB[Ilia Shikshin]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2010-08-06]RO[9]PC[Tampere, Finland]US[HW9x9]C[snowman [-\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results.php
cherisse [1k\]: round 9 yey illia! too bad i won't be able to watch tomorrow's matches :(
myfriend: sad i cant watch the game on eurogo becouse brasil is blocked :(
alexanderp [?\]: myfriend, Brazil is blocked at Ustream?
alexanderp [?\]: why not to use proxy?
myfriend: proxy? ... 
myfriend: ok i will try it...
alexanderp [?\]: google "free proxy list"
Mage [1k\]: can we see the score list?
snowman [-\]: yeah, on the results page...
Mage [1k\]: that page
Mage [1k\]: link plz
snowman [-\]: see the link above
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
yosogo [1d\]: what time is in finland now?
myfriend: im now trying to use proxy alexan
myfriend: :P
yosogo [1d\]: am 7:00?
snowman [-\]: 10 am
yosogo [1d\]: thx
myfriend: i got an error
cherisse [1k\]: no kang on board 1-2
kryft [1d\]: Of course not, she lost yesterday.
myfriend: :(!!!!
alexanderp [?\]: myfriend, write me in private
myfriend: ok
ogre [2d?\]: got me vodak and kruncy gerkins
ILoveKang: where's Kang?
ogre [2d?\]: she playing teuber
cherisse [1k\]: kang is defeated and gone
ILoveKang: on board 3
ogre [2d?\]: nah she plaed tuber today
Maki1 [2k\]: Kang is not gone
ogre [2d?\]: still dont get to see what teuber looks like
ILoveKang: what's the use of having a video stream without Kang?
ILoveKang: ridiculous
ogre [2d?\]: chae lim kim is a pretty regular looking chap
Ailura [7k\]: shikshin is so handsome
elementc [5k?\]: I'm so glad Jabarin beat kang
Ailura [7k\]: handsome AND good at Go, what more could a girl want?
Blitzcore [3d\]: @ ogre: http://www.europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/Player_Card.php?&key=10437174
ogre [2d?\]: parkinsons?
ogre [2d?\]: thank u blitscore if um it ever finishes loading the page
Blitzcore [3d\]: hehe
elementc [5k?\]: The spiders! Get them off!
ogre [2d?\]: wo he loko way more normal than i had imagined
Blitzcore [3d\]: why should he look strange?
elementc [5k?\]: You haven't seen Iliya play before ahve you?
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;B[pd]
;W[dp]
;B[pq]
;W[dd]
;B[fq]C[elementc [5k?\]: he rocks back and forth when he's nervous
ogre [2d?\]: kobayashi
Blitzcore [3d\]: yep
engelchen [1d\]: no
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;W[hq]
;B[qo]
;W[kq]
;B[cq]C[strong10k [-\]: are they playing for money?
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;W[dq]
;B[cp]
;W[do]
;B[dr]
;W[er]C[engelchen [1d\]: kobayashi is sth different
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;B[cr]
;W[eq]
;B[cn]C[Maki1 [2k\]: 'what is this, ultra blitz?
ogre [2d?\]: naw this is from kobayayshi
deft [4d\]: H3 is to avoid the Kobayashi fuseki
fatihsulak [-\]: sdandart opening
chrpa [1k\]: that was quick
ogre [2d?\]: a w decining move at h3
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: that was teasing me
deft [4d\]: yeah, common opening so far - this has been played 100s of times in pro games
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;W[qf]
;B[qe]
;W[pf]
;B[nd]C[fatihsulak [-\]: he really plays for territory
ogre [2d?\]: its too bad cause they make the moves faster than we can kibitz
profan [6k?\]: r10?
ogre [2d?\]: dang pros
Orynx [2k?\]: who is black pls ?
ogre [2d?\]: ilia
Maki1 [2k\]: territory wins games
Sven84 [3k\]: r10 r8 i imagine or another approach move top left
ogre [2d?\]: ilia win the tournament
Blitzcore [3d\]: fighting wins territory
ogre [2d?\]: uh is his sickness getting well?
beefree: influence wins fighting
sushisan [4d\]: territory only wins if you have enough
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;W[qj]C[elementc [5k?\]: what on earth
ogre [2d?\]: close or far
ogre [2d?\]: f17 yea?
profan [6k?\]: always people told me do not play as black if there is extension for white... and now...
fatihsulak [-\]: black planning r12? 
Maki1 [2k\]: Kang had huge influence yesterday but she decided to get into a fight in an area where her opponent was strong. Big mistake...
ogre [2d?\]: oh yeah r12 huh then maybe r8
ogre [2d?\]: nah
chrpa [1k\]: next move?
ogre [2d?\]: f17 
kryft [1d\]: Hmm, why r15 here?
ogre [2d?\]: then pincher and counter pincher
byanjiong [8k\]: c14
strong10k [-\]: r15 kind of unexpected
just9x9 [-\]: pinscher and counter pinscher hehe
strong10k [-\]: o17 or o16 standard
ptitlou [2d\]: may be he wants quickly s14 to take points at the beginning... kind of original strategy
fatihsulak [-\]: if not r12 now, no idea why r15 
ogre [2d?\]: look
Daoloth [-\]: k17 if b wants to settle quickly
ogre [2d?\]: if w goes r17 b can s5
ogre [2d?\]: ok
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the betting program shoulkd work better as before
ogre [2d?\]: s15 i mean
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i fixed 3 bugs last night
ajh [1k\]: How to get vip points?
happydog [7k\]: Yay for night-time bugfixing! :)
profan [6k?\]: f17?
ogre [2d?\]: whats there not to like
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: by tagging photos (and in the future u can buy them)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and VIP members will get 100 VIPpoints/month
kryft [1d\]: Also, I guess the shape that white gets with R10 is not that interesting here with black's shimari in the lower right corner
ogre [2d?\]: hey how about that aurora borealis?
kryft [1d\]: Black now has a good extension at R8 (and N3)
fatihsulak [-\]: r12 q12 s14 s13 s15 is my sequence here
Gomueller [1d\]: This looks lika a game Kobayashi 9 P played recently
ogre [2d?\]: it would
ogre [2d?\]: dont tell me kobashi would play r12 here
holynec [?\]: what is this??!
hosainogo: What do you understand by Kobayashi 9p? Koichi, Satoru, both? LOL
ogre [2d?\]: koichi
Gomueller [1d\]: Kobayashi - certainly not
ogre [2d?\]: r8 might be ok
maciek [2d\]: k17
Gomueller [1d\]: koichi
ogre [2d?\]: b gots miai extensions tho so whats rong with f17?
ogre [2d?\]: k17 is probably ok also
maciek [2d\]: yes, ithink the top is now
maciek [2d\]: my bet is k17
ogre [2d?\]: i just like f17 more
myfriend: d6 for me
fatihsulak [-\]: k17 normal move but then r15 q14 exchange favors white
ogre [2d?\]: r8 might be the correct move
ogre [2d?\]: its kind of urgent almost
deft [4d\]: extending along the top is very big also
ogre [2d?\]: lol
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;B[qh]C[kryft [1d\]: hosainogo, Kobayashi 9p is the form Koichi and Satoru assume when they combine; think Transformers. I have an idea for a new anime series... HnG + Transformers = win
maciek [2d\]: attack!
IstTengen [3k\]: :O
ogre [2d?\]: gooo ilia!
deft [4d\]: I think O3/N3 and R7/R8 are more or less miai
myg0t [6k\]: video is entertaining
strong10k [-\]: s14
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;W[ph]C[ogre [2d?\]: ilia using the remote control tesuji
NschoTschi [-\]: r12 very early no?
fatihsulak [-\]: r12 normal imo
ogre [2d?\]: yea it is
fatihsulak [-\]: s14 now probably
maciek [2d\]: and continue with s14?
NschoTschi [-\]: r8 maybe
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;B[rf]C[ogre [2d?\]: made r8 n3 more miaiish
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;W[rg]
;B[re]C[maciek [2d\]: wite will not answer now
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;W[rh]C[profan [6k?\]: he wants to settle the corner
maciek [2d\]: :)
strong10k [-\]: answering is solid
myfriend: :)
myfriend: :)
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;B[kc]C[Daoloth [-\]: should have r8 directly if b wants to harass the w group imho
fatihsulak [-\]: black has huge corner, territory strategy
deft [4d\]: you have to answere there
yosogo [1d\]: they play so fast 
Trumelunki [4d\]: I also thought white would not answer
AHCfujikun [5k\]: wow
just9x9 [-\]: i take b here
Trumelunki [4d\]: Feels nice for black
yosogo [1d\]: there are 150 minutes
fatihsulak [-\]: it is even i think
maciek [2d\]: f17?
just9x9 [-\]: o3 now?
kryft [1d\]: Great fuseki, I love this game. :)
just9x9 [-\]: or q2?
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;W[nq]C[palapiku [5k?\]: boring peaceful fuseki :)
CutiKut3 [5d\]: p5
eatramen [22k\]: lol
yosogo [1d\]: f17
ogre [2d?\]: gotta r8
sixsix [4d\]: c7
strong10k [-\]: b kind of greedy with territory
ogre [2d?\]: maybe not hmm
ogre [2d?\]: it kinda ugly tho hun
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;B[cf]C[yosogo [1d\]: d6
maciek [2d\]: this game is about territory:-)
ogre [2d?\]: its the strength b gave with r12
palapiku [5k?\]: this game is about greedy!
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;B[bd]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
maciek [2d\]: :)
ogre [2d?\]: yeah its a greedy way to do it
fatihsulak [-\]: is c14 right direction?
yosogo [1d\]: too fast 
CutiKut3 [5d\]: c14 is bad
kryft [1d\]: I look forward to seeing how white will handle this.
eatramen [22k\]: C10?
maciek [2d\]: i like f17 more
yosogo [1d\]: me too
strong10k [-\]: c17
ogre [2d?\]: i like f17 without l17
strong10k [-\]: white will c17 for sure
yosogo [1d\]: yeah
saisueye [2d\]: go k17
myg0t [6k\]: c17 j17 miai?
fatihsulak [-\]: c13 maybe?
deft [4d\]: C17 or C13
myg0t [6k\]: c13
alexanderp [?\]: Ilya begins to oscillate, beware Chae-lim Kim.
deft [4d\]: I would C17
goth [?\]: w will J17
kryft [1d\]: I mean, black has at least forty points of solid territory already (not counting the lower right or the upper left).
yosogo [1d\]: c13is not good
strong10k [-\]: why c13, side not big at all
maciek [2d\]: doesnt matter what u play in a fuseki:-)
ILoveKang: yo, roln does not lok healthy
yosogo [1d\]: and c13 will be attack
ogre [2d?\]: c17 j17 maii for b
deft [4d\]: side can be big because B has D6
fatihsulak [-\]: white needs some attack
kryft [1d\]: maciek, I disagree, but maybe that's just because I'm so weak in the middle and end game. ;)
ogre [2d?\]: r7 huge for w 
yosogo [1d\]: side is easy to shrink
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;W[em]C[fatihsulak [-\]: e7 seems well timed
fatihsulak [-\]: if c7 then c17 
Syptryn [3d\]: c-14 appears to be wrong direction
Syptryn [3d\]: but I'm 3d
Syptryn [3d\]: what do I know :P
eatramen [22k\]: someone explain e7 a bit more please?
Syptryn [3d\]: get bot area
fatihsulak [-\]: e7 aims c7 eat
maciek [2d\]: bulding a big potential territory on the bottom
Syptryn [3d\]: I'd c-17
ptitlou [2d\]: black playing very territory oriented so white taking advantage on influence
ogre [2d?\]: getting the threat of the side  and expanding
ILoveKang: e7 is actually a super strong move
fatihsulak [-\]: c17 seems only move to me :) but what do i know?
NschoTschi [-\]: 4 corner game again?
yosogo [1d\]: e7 then c7 will got both side and bottom
chaklun [-\]: c7 - p5 
deft [4d\]: yes, C17 is obvious move now
maciek [2d\]: cant play c7
maciek [2d\]: it will be too passive
Maki1 [2k\]: he MUST C17
strong10k [-\]: white will lose once b c17
ogre [2d?\]: thats why e7 is so good
yosogo [1d\]: n0w h17 for b
ogre [2d?\]: this should be a good battle
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
strong10k [-\]: 4 corner and white has no territory
Naurul [5k\]: C17 ? no H17?
maciek [2d\]: but maybe passive play is ilia strategy in this game?
yosogo [1d\]: w has big bottom
deft [4d\]: C17 then J17 and then the next B move is not that obvious
fatihsulak [-\]: i think white opening is a little bit better
twenty [4d?\]: morning
eatramen [22k\]: g'morning
maciek [2d\]: dont know why but i like m4 now
o3epo [1k\]: p5 is better
stf7 [1k\]: now black has more....
yosogo [1d\]: h17 can threaten w
Trumelunki [4d\]: p5 strategic point
ogre [2d?\]: c17 j17 e14 ?
maciek [2d\]: m4 - kill me pls point?
deft [4d\]: but P5 doesn't expand B potential much, only reduces W
deft [4d\]: so it doesn't look that efficient to me
dererte: Ilia fuseki not so good, but he compensate this after
yosogo [1d\]: h17 is good
NschoTschi [-\]: w wants p5 next
sorglos [3k\]: cutting the 3 white groups with tengen :-)
o3epo [1k\]: mistake p5 is better
yosogo [1d\]:  h17gain territory and threaten
maciek [2d\]: its all about making a wrong movve in a good moment so be patience pls!
Naurul [5k\]: p5 is to big for w. b p5 
Trumelunki [4d\]: Black prob thinking, will white answer c17?
ogre [2d?\]: i think bi booving at e14 area with pressure on w top group lets b develop the left side
deft [4d\]: of course W will answer C17
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;B[kp]C[Naurul [5k\]: l4 ??
maciek [2d\]: i was very close to ilia mind:)
Sven84 [3k\]: probing move? misclick? :D
yosogo [1d\]: unbelievable
fatihsulak [-\]: black got bored :)
maciek [2d\]: must start fighting
ogre [2d?\]: then keama on d8 cause c7 wont hurt bad enough
myg0t [6k\]: misclick for sure
myg0t [6k\]: haha
fatihsulak [-\]: white better opening strategy, so he decided to attack :)
deft [4d\]: attaching to strong stones is OK
Blitzcore [3d\]: no the video shows it
NschoTschi [-\]: As Ilya plays not with a mouse but with his hand it can't be misclick
palapiku [5k?\]: misplace
happydog [7k\]: w should allow undo
Naurul [5k\]: misshand ??
deft [4d\]: I've managed to put the stone in the wrong place IRL
twenty [4d?\]: i guess he meant harry missclicked..
maciek [2d\]: dont attach the weak ones..i always think this way, but thinking attaching strong stones is OK is interesting..
ogre [2d?\]: that was not obvious
strong10k [-\]: white's next move not obvious
Blitzcore [3d\]: me too - but the "wrong place" was much better indeed
kryft [1d\]: Wow
fatihsulak [-\]: no idea how to answer this
maciek [2d\]: m3
ogre [2d?\]: nobi
Trumelunki [4d\]: m4 
NschoTschi [-\]: this is a common invasion strategy
kryft [1d\]: I'm learning so much from watching this. :)
Maki1 [2k\]: yes, m3
yosogo [1d\]: c8first
maciek [2d\]: c8 is not obvious sente
yosogo [1d\]: c7
ogre [2d?\]: this move is very direct
Blitzcore [3d\]: r7?
ogre [2d?\]: i guess ilia plays kinda direct huh
maciek [2d\]: answering p5 is interesting
NschoTschi [-\]: L4 really must be answered
kryft [1d\]: m3?
Blitzcore [3d\]: p5 induces r8...
alexanderp [?\]: As always Ilya wants to invade everywhere and live with weak groups.
maciek [2d\]: he attaches ..he thinks i answer, so i tenuki
maciek [2d\]: :-)
o3epo [1k\]: Ilya reduces Moyo
deft [4d\]: K3, K4, M3 and M4 are the only moves worth thinking about
tarzan2006 [2d\]: r-3
ogre [2d?\]: yeah p5 is not good
ptitlou [2d\]: m4
o3epo [1k\]: in cente
maciek [2d\]: living weak groups is so nice
ogre [2d?\]: or o5  either
strong10k [-\]: l5!
strong10k [-\]: l6
palapiku [5k?\]: l5 for sure
NschoTschi [-\]: m4 is best imo
palapiku [5k?\]: point of symmetry
yosogo [1d\]: maybe the result is b +0.5
kryft [1d\]: Why m4 instead of m3?
maciek [2d\]: i hope p5
maciek [2d\]: p5 is interesting
fatihsulak [-\]: m3 seems passive i think
tarzan2006 [2d\]: R-3
ogre [2d?\]: but b will go r8 tho
Trumelunki [4d\]: m3, black will tenuki here I think
yosogo [1d\]: c7
strong10k [-\]: m3 fine
strong10k [-\]: most solid
Naurul [5k\]: o5 ?
jim [6d\]: M3 is ok
kryft [1d\]: Trumelunki, Ah, right
NschoTschi [-\]: m3 is japanese m4 korean answer
strong10k [-\]: what about l6?
kryft [1d\]: Trumelunki, Didn't consider that. :)
yosogo [1d\]: m3 is losing move
ILoveKang: b 50 points already
ILoveKang: w needs huge chunk of center
ogre [2d?\]: m3 is not losing
ogre [2d?\]: no way
Syptryn [3d\]: m4
mixed [-\]: is the video online?
jim [6d\]: m4 can be interesting
Syptryn [3d\]: I voted m4
harpo [?\]: l2 the safest answer
yosogo [1d\]: can not dodge in such strong area
fatihsulak [-\]: this seems like a ladder breaker :)
o3epo [1k\]: usually black play p5 or m4
yosogo [1d\]: so m4
Syptryn [3d\]: k2 and k3 oo submissive
Syptryn [3d\]: m4 k3 
Syptryn [3d\]: I'm guess
saisueye [2d\]: m4 is a trap lol
mixed [-\]: calm down
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;W[jp]C[twenty [4d?\]: haha
Syptryn [3d\]: m3 
o3epo [1k\]: but it gj sente
Syptryn [3d\]: zzz
jim [6d\]: well this.........
ogre [2d?\]: playing from the strong side. weird
Trumelunki [4d\]: nobody really said this :)
o3epo [1k\]: no sente
deft [4d\]: m3 m4 l5 m5 
ogre [2d?\]: cause its normal to go from weaker side?
tarzan2006 [2d\]: right bottomR-3
tarzan2006 [2d\]: is
ogre [2d?\]: i thought that was some kinda beginer leson 
ogre [2d?\]: oh well
tarzan2006 [2d\]: best ithink
ogre [2d?\]: break the rules
yosogo [1d\]: w use so many stone to get little territory 
deft [4d\]: B builds some thickness in sente but W is already thick so it should be OK for W
Syptryn [3d\]: k5 ?
mixed [-\]: b almost 4 corners =)
Naurul [5k\]: c17
dter1: m3
Naurul [5k\]: or h17
yosogo [1d\]: k4 wants to dodge
strong10k [-\]: lee changho plays this way
ogre [2d?\]: weoll ilia didnt expect this either
deft [4d\]: M3 is a kind of middle game joseki
ogre [2d?\]: yeah
o3epo [1k\]: k5
yosogo [1d\]: lee changho will fight and kill all
avio [2d\]: k5
deft [4d\]: K5 not good I think - W just J4 and then B M3 no longer possible and W got some points
NschoTschi [-\]: kill all is a dangerous strategy
sixsix [4d\]: If K5 then M4 makes b heavy
jim [6d\]: K5 not so bad, if white J4 then black tenuki
ILoveKang: fun to watch though
yosogo [1d\]: maybe h17 now
Blitzcore [3d\]: both videos stuck
strong10k [-\]: c17
kryft [1d\]: Hmm, K4, interesting.
Syptryn [3d\]: well M3 ends badly for black
Syptryn [3d\]: and so does K3
Syptryn [3d\]: that leaves K5 as only choice
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;B[lq]C[Maki1 [2k\]: k5 looks ridiculous
jim [6d\]: yes K4 is interesting
kryft [1d\]: Syptryn, What sequence did you read for m3?
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;W[lp]C[fatihsulak [-\]: m4 works?
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;B[ko]C[Lake [11k\]: what does b  if it was m3 for white?
kryft [1d\]: Syptryn, (I was going to ask that anyway, but I'm particularly curious now that black played m3 :D)
maciek [2d\]: good result for black
palapiku [5k?\]: Lake, tenuki
maciek [2d\]: a lot of possibilities now
Syptryn [3d\]: m2 k3 n3 
Lake [11k\]: hmm
ogre [2d?\]: no lader
Syptryn [3d\]: bla can't do much
fatihsulak [-\]: i think result is ok for white
Syptryn [3d\]: with no ladder
maciek [2d\]: "no ladder" is one of posibilities
ogre [2d?\]: even with ladder w might go k5
Syptryn [3d\]: m2 
Ripples [2k\]: didnt he just want him kept down :O
ogre [2d?\]: well hmm
Syptryn [3d\]: seems that he may as well played K5 like this
ogre [2d?\]: yea
Syptryn [3d\]: its same various as k5, except black sacrfices 1 stone
fatihsulak [-\]: interesting to see ladder breaker move
Syptryn [3d\]: and doesn't gane anything
yosogo [1d\]: n3
ogre [2d?\]: k5 for w now is interesting
Syptryn [3d\]: k5 would seriously gey messy
ogre [2d?\]: not that messy
ILoveKang: which ladder?
Herbs11: dudes..
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;W[lr]C[fatihsulak [-\]: k5 eliminates aji but makes white overconcentrated?
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;B[jo]C[ogre [2d?\]: maybe it was a psycho idea
Maki1 [2k\]: looks good for b
Syptryn [3d\]: mmm, isn't that the same as if black K5 first?
Syptryn [3d\]: and then cut?
Syptryn [3d\]: like
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;W[ip]C[yosogo [1d\]: b leads
fatihsulak [-\]: nope then white will not answer m3 at m2 
fatihsulak [-\]: black got a better result
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;B[lo]C[jim [6d\]: I think this is not good for black
slim76 [2d\]: looks heavy
jim [6d\]: black only make a target
Syptryn [3d\]: this is same as if black M5 in first pace
Syptryn [3d\]: and throwed away M3
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;W[mp]C[yosogo [1d\]: w does not have strong wall again and got littlepoint
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;B[mo]C[Syptryn [3d\]: the sacrfice did nothing, he woulda got L5 sente anyway
stf7 [1k\]: black is leading on territory,and this group is attacking only white territory
jim [6d\]: white sente
stf7 [1k\]: so its good
ogre [2d?\]: ok maybe l4 wasnt so good to begin with
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
fatihsulak [-\]: nope, if white answer k5 at k3 
Syptryn [3d\]: how do we get vip points?
ogre [2d?\]: w was in complete control of the sequences
palapiku [5k?\]: each vip point is $1000
jim [6d\]: and black wall...... how to use..........
ogre [2d?\]: i sell u my vip points
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: wow, then i am rich
fatihsulak [-\]: c7 also remains
jim [6d\]: I like J17 now for white
jim [6d\]: M17 then works
Syptryn [3d\]: U;d take c-17
profan [6k?\]: black wall is a reduction? now w has no potential ?
munnh: the video on?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Syptryn [3d\]: the left side is worthless
Syptryn [3d\]: better get corner
munnh: why off air?
ILoveKang: o5?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: off air?
munnh: yes
munnh: for me... 
palapiku [5k?\]: off air for me too
ogre [2d?\]: o5 looks like its a good idea
Montchik [-\]: me three
rkda [6k\]: video alive and streaming for me
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hmm
adsf [2d\]: not true it on air
ogre [2d?\]: not good to let b touch the corner
BinX [7k?\]: on air too
adsf [2d\]: Im watching it 
ekku [-\]: just displaying the 'loading' animation
munnh: is this blocked or something?
palapiku [5k?\]: maybe you need to be in europe to watch
runny [1d\]: O5 seems correct
elementc [5k?\]: It works in the US
benoit091 [14k\]: so
ekku [-\]: though it sais 109 viewers
ekku [-\]: *says
benoit091 [14k\]: these are people in europe?
munnh: justin tv really better
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: just refresh the page
yosogo [1d\]: o5
adsf [2d\]: Im in Canada so no being europe ain't true ^^
alexanderp [?\]: no, it's not blocked. There is problem with the video, it stopped working.
munnh: i already restart comp etc
munnh: still off air
ekku [-\]: euro doesn't help
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: maybe your bandwidth is too small?
munnh: no
munnh: lols
kryft [1d\]: Jim, Does black really need to use the wall for anything else than controlling white's potential?
palapiku [5k?\]: no
benoit091 [14k\]: the clock isn't running
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: then i dont know
ekku [-\]: will try directly from ustream
munnh: my internet 50mb only but stream dont works....
munnh: shows off air ..
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: very strange
jim [6d\]: for me black lose sente here
adsf [2d\]: seems to be working perfectly, you sure your not on the wrong channel?
ptitlou [2d\]: o5 seems good but what good answer to o6 then ?
ekku [-\]: same thing directly from ustream.com
mixed [-\]: same for me munnh
palapiku [5k?\]: yeah, ustream doesn't work either
mixed [-\]: off air ..
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: few days ago there were international routing problems
mixed [-\]: yes maybe they blocked some ips like china or others
ekku [-\]: doesn't seem to be a bandwidth problem either, my... school projects are transferring with a normal speed
palapiku [5k?\]: i'm canada
Montchik [-\]: khm... i'm IN Tampere, and still no stream
ogre [2d?\]: no it may be lingering the previous troubles
mixed [-\]: off air too for u?
jim [6d\]: white keep his territoy on the bottom, much more he get on the 3 line, and white have chance to play J17
kryft [1d\]: jim, Does black need to use the wall for anything else than controlling white's potential?
kryft [1d\]: jim, Seeing how he's ahead in territory
jim [6d\]: I don-t see other way to use wall now
Maki1 [2k\]: video is good, w has a sour face
mixed [-\]: lol i payed vip eurogo and now cant watch how nice for me :D !!
jim [6d\]: for black
ogre [2d?\]: yea its all r12's fault!!!
jim [6d\]: white is to strong on the right
adsf [2d\]: I agree J17 seems w move or maybe C12?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you did mixed, what is your EuroGoTV name?
ogre [2d?\]: bad r12 baaaad
fatihsulak [-\]: c7 still very big to me
CutiKut3 [5d\]: give me that video
CutiKut3 [5d\]: pls
ogre [2d?\]: do this for the upper right corner is immediate gratification
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;W[qm]C[Montchik [-\]: ah, i got stream now :)
palapiku [5k?\]: how
ogre [2d?\]: hm thats interesting
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
ogre [2d?\]: yeah
jim [6d\]: this is good only if  black answer
ogre [2d?\]: b might not answer?
jim [6d\]: but black atari and H17 I think
adsf [2d\]: now b H17 seem to force w answer
runny [1d\]: b have to 
Naurul [5k\]: c11
ogre [2d?\]: hm
ogre [2d?\]: just o4 enough huh
mixed [-\]: off air :(
palapiku [5k?\]: is h17/j17 really bigger than c17?
ElofWendt [7k\]: if I wanna see a game from yesterday rond 4 board 1 , where can I look?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: why didnt you answer me mixed?
profan [6k?\]: h17 ! ?
mixed [-\]: what do u mean?
Montchik [-\]: wait, actually my stream turned out to be one frozen picture :/
twenty [4d?\]: dito
jim [6d\]: I like H17 more then C17
ILoveKang: this guy kim doesn't move at all
StefanRadu [1k\]: wich is better? p5/p4/o4?
StefanRadu [1k\]: or its a matter of style?
epoxygal [3k\]: no kang today
epoxygal [3k\]: why not O5 for white?
runny [1d\]: o4
kryft [1d\]: jim, h17 c17 c11?
runny [1d\]: p4 cool but gote
NschoTschi [-\]: no milk today...♫
ogre [2d?\]: o4 and tenuky loooks interesting
runny [1d\]: p5 same gote
A1R [4k\]: kim is female
Naurul [5k\]: if b h17 w c17 - so black line c
zumiee: hello for all
adsf [2d\]: for real A1R?
zumiee: hey is it off air?
A1R [4k\]: i think so yes
strong10k [-\]: t5
Maki1 [2k\]: C17
Sarcoma [11k\]: it is fine for me
ILoveKang: that's one ugly female
adsf [2d\]: he really look like a male though
profan [6k?\]: if black tenuki how to attack corner?
A1R [4k\]: yep female
rumster: R4
strong10k [-\]: black t5
rumster: profan: R4 is most severe
profan [6k?\]: thx :)
ogre [2d?\]: wait on the r4
ogre [2d?\]: you would go o5 and attack the middle first
ogre [2d?\]: then go r4 leater
Trivia [2k?\]: can anyone see the broadcast?
hirakawade [2d?\]: Korean is a girl-player ?
adsf [2d\]: hard to imagine how b will go about using is wall around L5
Ailura [7k\]: yes
Ailura [7k\]: i can see the broadcast
ILoveKang: well, getting r7 and j17 is nice
strong10k [-\]: chae-lim is a girl?????
A1R [4k\]: yes
adsf [2d\]: I can see it too, work prefectly
strong10k [-\]: wow i've mistaken
strong10k [-\]: mistaken*
rumster: i think that black O4 then P4 is enough to win
Trivia [2k?\]: looks like a girl but no boobs
zumiee: so it is off air ?
strong10k [-\]: hard to tell from this angle 
Maki1 [2k\]: He looks nothing like a girl, stop that nonsense
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Trivia [2k?\]: Ilya looks very quiet today. No rocking
CutiKut3 [5d\]: i registed,but nothing mail to me
CutiKut3 [5d\]: :(
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: time enough for you to bet on the next move
piclkess: hey can i talk to eurogo? i want remove my vip
ogre [2d?\]: o4 
piclkess: i will log on my main account
myongstu [4d\]: broadcast doesnt work
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: look for mail in your unwanted mail box or spam box
piclkess: it off air here
adsf [2d\]: Say EuroGoTV1, do you know if there is a place to view player's profile?
piclkess: i will send email for you ok
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: broadcast is working
piclkess: not for me brasil is not working stream
engelchen [1d\]: not for me
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: there might be soem international routingproblems
Trivia [2k?\]: didnt work for me I clicked on ustream logo and it started working
piclkess: can you send money back please?
piclkess: i will send mail ok
piclkess: i just payed yesterday
myongstu [4d\]: i heard from several people now that it doesnt work. just loading and loading and no picture
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i was told they are caused by the warm wheater
CutiKut3 [5d\]: ah i see
Trivia [2k?\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/EuroGoTV1
ogre [2d?\]: ilia is not coughing alot today that seems good 
CutiKut3 [5d\]: why do they send it to spam box mail?
ogre [2d?\]: but he isnt moving around too much either which may be a bad sign
Trivia [2k?\]: some e-mail services are evil
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you didnt pay pickless
dmf [14k\]: who do you think is ahead now?
chan22: is this link offline?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: link working fine
chan22: ok tank you
ogre [2d?\]: looks pretty even to me
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
epoxygal [3k\]: looks pretty
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if you have trouble seeing the stream complain to your ISP
Hydryad [5k\]: lol
epoxygal [3k\]: i can hear harry type on the keyboard
Trivia [2k?\]: talk to the hand
chan22: hey its offline
chan22: you lie!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, getting frustrated by people claiming to pay money to EuroGoTV and who never did
BinX [7k?\]: it's really online
Fenix [?\]: is w an ex pro student? or just a "normal" 7d^^
adsf [2d\]: is Chae-lim Kim the correct spelling for the name, I can't find anything about this player on the net?
chan22: can someone help me?
ogre [2d?\]: register and view is free
Ailura [7k\]: how much time left on the clock?
ogre [2d?\]: vip points is 1000 bucks 
chan22: well i have free account on eurogo
NschoTschi [-\]: Chaelim Kim is correct it seems
chan22: free users can watch right?
epoxygal [3k\]: someone promised to pay money?
NschoTschi [-\]: at least hats the spelling on egc site
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: VIP points are free if you tag photos 
BinX [7k?\]: yes, I can and I'm a free user
db [4k\]: black is ahead about 10 points, is not it?
ogre [2d?\]: you can add vip points to your game and win!
alexanderp [?\]: We're watching Go game, not a boxing championship. I think goers can live without seeing Ilya's face and oscillating:) Let's be kind to Harry:)
chan22: danmm i cant watch i logged free websit
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: anybody can watch for free
hirakawade [2d?\]: From Korean pronunciation to alphabet, it is a little difficult.
chan22: wait i will use mozila
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if you cannot see it complain to your Internet Service Provider
profan [6k?\]: today there are problems with streaming tv
epoxygal [3k\]: why would someone promise to pay money but did not?
Trivia [2k?\]: ilya oscillating somehow soothes me
ptitlou [2d\]: what about o4 and then r7 ?
NschoTschi [-\]: EuroGoTV! YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB! 
Maki1 [2k\]: The streaming TV is excelent today
ptitlou [2d\]: sorry r6
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;B[op]C[chan22: well still off air.. i will contact my internet... 
NschoTschi [-\]: safe connetct
ogre [2d?\]: yes eurogotv is great they will even suspend a game in progress in order to ensure that we can see it!
StefanRadu [1k\]: heh. p4 better than o4?
Maki1 [2k\]: chicken
StefanRadu [1k\]: thats what i would have played.
Syptryn [3d\]: black needed to do this I think
Ailura [7k\]: EuroGo, how much time left?
CutiKut3 [5d\]: video not working?
engelchen [1d\]: no
chan22: not for me cuti
chan22: off air here..
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it is
db [4k\]: what is score now?
engelchen [1d\]: just for some
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: stop complaining here
adsf [2d\]: it is on-air please stop with off-air compaint
walleye [2k\]: isn't it unusual to see Ilya go for territory?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: complain to the one who gives you internetacces
chan22: can someone
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the one who you pay!
chan22: send me link
Maki1 [2k\]: ILiya plays for results, not pretty style
chan22: again pelase
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;W[cc]C[happydog [7k\]: I can access the stream, I see the number of viewers and the ustream live logo, but the actual video is missing.
Maki1 [2k\]: finally...
Hydryad [5k\]: I can't complain to the neighbors whom I leech internet off their wifi
chan22: hey 
Hydryad [5k\]: :P
chan22: happy
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
jim [6d\]: black H17
chan22: what happens for u?
CutiKut3 [5d\]: w is state
adsf [2d\]: just right click on EuroGoTV1 and click view info chan22
CutiKut3 [5d\]: :))
]
;B[hc]C[Maki1 [2k\]: B17
ILoveKang: this is chaos
chan22: i can c too the users on for a few seconds then after off 
Syptryn [3d\]: huh
chan22: why that 
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;W[ch]C[Maki1 [2k\]: no, this is Sparta
epoxygal [3k\]: ilya has this menacing looking at his opponent
chan22: hey happy talk me private
]
;B[ef]C[epoxygal [3k\]: deadly stare.. like u idiot! u r so stupid!
Syptryn [3d\]: c7 
Syptryn [3d\]: b14 
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;W[hd]
;B[id]
;W[gd]C[adsf [2d\]: somehow this look dangerous for b
ekku [-\]: danger is Ilyas middle name
]
;B[ie]
;W[gf]
;B[eh]C[Maki1 [2k\]: Ilya is a badboy
Syptryn [3d\]: b14 ?
adsf [2d\]: d10 first?
Syptryn [3d\]: c10  for peep
Naurul [5k\]: d10
]
;W[cj]C[ogre [2d?\]: to b11 or not to b11
ptitlou [2d\]: c7 ?
fatihsulak [-\]: b11 book move
adsf [2d\]: heheh funny thing is I just noticed the goban they use is the same I got at home :D
Maki1 [2k\]: zomg
Maki1 [2k\]: I guess they use glass stones
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no glass stones
Bloooperg [9k?\]: on?
nanok [?\]: yunzi?
adsf [2d\]: ah they use slate?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: shells 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and
nanok [?\]: wow
ogre [2d?\]: nice
Bloooperg [9k?\]: eurogo  
Bloooperg [9k?\]: hi
]
;B[cg]C[ogre [2d?\]: not to b11
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hi
Bloooperg [9k?\]: can you help me
Maki1 [2k\]: I once took my slate and shell stones to a tournament. Before I knew it some other players had started a game with my stones! :(  After that I just use what is provided...
Bloooperg [9k?\]: i send private 
Bloooperg [9k?\]: wait
Naurul [5k\]: d12
adsf [2d\]: slate & shell are nice except they get dirty quickly:D
Maki1 [2k\]: wash you hands before yo play
ogre [2d?\]: there is stone washers on site
jim [6d\]: D12 only move
adsf [2d\]: yes I know, it's not like I don't wash them you know :)
banbanban [2k\]: wash your hands AFTER you play
Maki1 [2k\]: That really depends on what game you are playing, banana
CutiKut3 [5d\]: look w like cry
CutiKut3 [5d\]: crying*
walleye [2k\]: who did Ilya lose to?
ogre [2d?\]: how is the position bad for w
nanok [?\]: artem i think
brighex: online?
ogre [2d?\]: there is a fight on and w looks ok
CutiKut3 [5d\]: b nervous
CutiKut3 [5d\]: ...
hgy1: artem is wining in the another board!
sophtpaw [5k\]: this is exciting - 1 move per hour? intense!
NschoTschi [-\]: b17 not good?
ogre [2d?\]: dont listen to manyfaces
ptitlou [2d\]: c7 necessary no ?
ogre [2d?\]: its jhust a fancied up se with faces all over
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;W[dh]C[sophtpaw [5k\]: I don't think I can bear to watch - just to scary
sophtpaw [5k\]: omg what is gonna happen next?
ogre [2d?\]: probably e13
Naurul [5k\]: e13
sophtpaw [5k\]: no, don't say that! I am behind my couch now
]
;B[dg]
;W[bc]C[sophtpaw [5k\]: ooooh, teh suspense
heywardbey [2d\]: e13 is solid connection but
nanok [?\]: sophtpaw: i think that's should do
Naurul [5k\]: c8 or p7 ?
heywardbey [2d\]: no eye potentialr ealyl
heywardbey [2d\]: really*
ILoveKang: just leave then
vannab [3k\]: sophtp: close your eyes now!
heywardbey [2d\]: -.-
sophtpaw [5k\]: vannab lol
ptitlou [2d\]: d10
kryft [1d\]: So why didn't black play b11?
sophtpaw [5k\]: what hapend to e13 ?
ogre [2d?\]: maybe cause he wants to attack w back
ogre [2d?\]: b11 has drawback to makw stronger also
Naurul [5k\]: d9 ?
ILoveKang: actually a close game now
kryft [1d\]: ogre, Ok, I was just thinking if there were some other drawbacks specific to this situation that I wasn't aware of.
Ailura [7k\]: E11
sophtpaw [5k\]: ok, I just can't hold my breath any longer
DrZoom [4k\]: Hm... the live stream isn't working it seems.
sophtpaw [5k\]: I'm just going to have to breathe now
heywardbey [2d\]: f11
heywardbey [2d\]: smexy
NschoTschi [-\]: DrZoom for some it is working
heywardbey [2d\]: then d9
kryft [1d\]: drzoom, Works here, the problem isn't at EuroGoTV's end.
Maki1 [2k\]: it IS working
NschoTschi [-\]: not for me though. I get only black screen
sophtpaw [5k\]: I have THX-sound here
Maki1 [2k\]: maybe you have been censored
NschoTschi [-\]: lol
Bulbasaur [4k\]: G11
hirakawade [2d?\]: smexy = ?
heywardbey [2d\]: iono
NschoTschi [-\]: I can log in and the chat works....
walleye [2k\]: i wish people who discuss the broadcast were doing it there, not here
Bulbasaur [4k\]: they are also doing it there :p
cherisse [1k\]: = smart and sexy
heywardbey [2d\]: right thats wat it was
heywardbey [2d\]: oh
heywardbey [2d\]: i would..
heywardbey [2d\]: d9 and then f11
heywardbey [2d\]: wait thats dumb
heywardbey [2d\]: nvm.
NschoTschi [-\]: Can b make pressure on d12 stones?
NschoTschi [-\]: e10 ?
NschoTschi [-\]: G13?
ogre [2d?\]: c7 aji seems to be stronging w c12 stones alot
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;B[cm]C[NschoTschi [-\]: nice one
Maki1 [2k\]: very good move
ogokon [4k?\]: Seems hard to tenuki here. ><
kryft [1d\]: Hmm, it feels dangerous not to respond locally around the E14 group, but then I'm weak and particularly bad at fighting. :)
Naurul [5k\]: d8?
kryft [1d\]: Of course this threatens white's C12 stones, but still.
ogre [2d?\]: weaker c12 is stronger d13 is
adsf [2d\]: e10 proper shape?
cherisse [1k\]: i like this play
NschoTschi [-\]: ogre, are you kind of a jedi?
kryft [1d\]: ogre, Yup, I'd also forgotten about the C7 weakness. Of course it would be very painful for black if white got to play there.
ILoveKang: who is winning MilanMilan?
Blitzcore [3d\]: i like b
profan [6k?\]: what about taranu and dinerstejin?
MilanMilan [9d\]: b looks taking advantages
profan [6k?\]: are they winning the toruney?
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;W[ei]C[NschoTschi [-\]: black has more cash but also the weakest group on the board
NschoTschi [-\]: the only weak grouü
ptitlou [2d\]: f11 !
NschoTschi [-\]: f11 works?
profan [6k?\]: where is the classification of the tourney?
]
;B[fh]
;W[fi]C[qgo [4k\]: e 9?
]
;B[gh]C[ptitlou [2d\]: it doesn't seemingly ;-)
]
;W[gi]C[eweew: J6 will come soon
NschoTschi [-\]: hehe
]
;B[hh]C[NschoTschi [-\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-results.txt
Maki1 [2k\]: very hard for w to get any traction...
Blitzcore [3d\]: j6 o14 kinda miai?
]
;W[hi]
;B[ii]C[ptitlou [2d\]: h6
hirakawade [2d?\]: White goes very well.
NschoTschi [-\]: Blitzcore I dont think so
snowman [-\]: at a glance this looks like a balanced game
Blitzcore [3d\]: this is completely over my head...
ogre [2d?\]: it looks peaceful
cherisse [1k\]: hmm hane seems aggressive as this b group is weak
DrZoom [4k\]: at a glance this looks like black would win.
NschoTschi [-\]: n13 ?
Chuntian: 107	Zdenek Kouba (8k)	-	Kai He Zhang (2d)	  -   this is amazing
NschoTschi [-\]: p7 maybe?
Maki1 [2k\]: sandbagger...
alexanderp [?\]: and 8k won 8 games in a row, 2d lost all his games
ogre [2d?\]: gooooo zdenek kouba!!
Lake [11k\]: ))
Chuntian: of course could be nice to see him finish with 9 or 10
alexanderp [?\]: well, looks like this game is crucial for Ilya, too
Danielsan [2k\]: Maybe he practiced alot lately?
DrZoom [4k\]: Stream is back
Chuntian: in the week end tournament, he did also good performances
Blitzcore [3d\]: maybe btoth are 4 ranks wrong?
NschoTschi [-\]: thx Dr Zoom
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
A1R [4k\]: zhang i think is the son of zhang wendong 9p
ogre [2d?\]: elements power equipment
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;W[mg]C[Maki1 [2k\]: how old is Zhang?
NschoTschi [-\]: :)
A1R [4k\]: donna
A1R [4k\]: still young
A1R [4k\]: maybe 8 to 10
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: very young
Syptryn [3d\]: gmmm white serioysl losing out on terriroty
DrZoom [4k\]: Ilia looks healthy again.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: very nice boy
Maki1 [2k\]: thx, i hope he wins some games!
Blitzcore [3d\]: ilya looks healthy - since when ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: looks like having a great time here
Maki1 [2k\]: no, zhang
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: playing with other kids
profan [6k?\]: is n13 sente?
Chuntian: how old is zdenek kouba ?
DrZoom [4k\]: I mean his cold has gone
Maki1 [2k\]: 82
ptitlou [2d\]: isn't this a bit slow ?
deft [4d\]: no
Maki1 [2k\]: N13 is a very effective move
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: d10 now?
ogre [2d?\]: yeah his cold seems to have ended
ptitlou [2d\]: q9
ogre [2d?\]: residual coughing only
ptitlou [2d\]: an hten Q7
Maki1 [2k\]: b could have hoped to build territory in that vicinity
NschoTschi [-\]: q8 maybe
vuvuzelax: is this vid working?
NschoTschi [-\]: no
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
ogre [2d?\]: q9 is better than q8 cause of the followup at q7
kryft [1d\]: N13 seems natural,as that would be a good point for black as well.
vuvuzelax: thx nscho
MilanMilan [9d\]: G18
vuvuzelax: hi milan
MilanMilan [9d\]: hey
vuvuzelax: :)
ekku [-\]: stream working ok for a change
vuvuzelax: g18!!!!!!!! for the powar of 9dans
adsf [2d\]: j10 looks tempting to me
ogre [2d?\]: well about j10 b also has k5 presence
TitePoirre: E9 ?
Maki1 [2k\]: wow, thanks for comment, Milan we would love some more if you could please
ogre [2d?\]: so maybe it isnt as important
A1R [4k\]: is the game from kyeongnang already over?
jeremyS [4k\]: q8 ?
vuvuzelax: i cant watch eurogo tv is this ok?
Blitzcore [3d\]: someone has an idea about board3?
kryft [1d\]: vuvuzelax, It's completely normal at your age.
adsf [2d\]: it just feel to me like b j10 would prevent any attempt from w to cover middle left while making use of b wall
DrZoom [4k\]: how much time is left for the players?
eweew: is black pro level?
Maki1 [2k\]: no, he is 7d
eweew: I know his rank
sinshou [-\]: but i think he is insei level
Maki1 [2k\]: lol
Maki1 [2k\]: isei level does not say much
Maki1 [2k\]: insei
A1R [4k\]: well he would "only" be in the 8th or 7th insei group in kroea
A1R [4k\]: korea
sinshou [-\]: i dont think so
kryft [1d\]: Maki1, Doesn't say much? :P
A1R [4k\]: he didnt pass the insei exams
eweew: and stronger group is no.?
Maki1 [2k\]: an insei could be 2d to begin with
BUUUM: video working?
A1R [4k\]: no1 = strongest
ogre [2d?\]: ilia can beat totally a pro but maybe he lost more oftan than not
jjermann [5d?\]: depends what kind of insei I guess
Maki1 [2k\]: so insei level does not provide much information
sinshou [-\]: for sure he ould play in the A or B group A1T
Smilogo [6k\]:  I tried it again and my stream is working now
jjermann [5d?\]: if you are top class korean insei
jjermann [5d?\]: that says something
Maki1 [2k\]: yes
BUUUM: im diying
eweew: wow
BUUUM: pls i need help
A1R [4k\]: well ilya said all inseis, whatever which group can win the egc
sinshou [-\]: quite sure Iliya would be in group A or B
jjermann [5d?\]: if you are a lower class insei from antarctica it does not say much
ogre [2d?\]: maybe he mean they could but not very likely
BUUUM: im cold and i dont want take a shower what shold i do?
Ailura [7k\]: N11
Maki1 [2k\]: take a bath
deft [4d\]: actually in the lowest insei classes there are some players who are not that strong, but the're like 13 years old :P
Lake [11k\]: make tea)
Maki1 [2k\]: thats what I meant, thanks deft
A1R [4k\]: well but they are all stronger than european 6 or 7 dan
BUUUM: thx guys i will try it .... ty for answers
NschoTschi [-\]: Is this sth liek the key point for the game?
Bulbasaur [4k\]: certainatly a lot possible
Zahlman [1k\]: lol no a1r
A1R [4k\]: no?
deft [4d\]: no, I think among the kids that are insei there are some on the european 5-6d level
BUUUM: but i cant move im really COLD..
sinshou [-\]: A1R u miss one point we have already european players who are pros and were undergoing the insei school
BUUUM: and tired
Zahlman [1k\]: insei gain severeal stones strength from bottom class to top class
BUUUM: im diying alone here .
Zahlman [1k\]: pro are not that much stronger than top amas, therefore insei can't all be better than top amas
ogre [2d?\]: its no more argue if you dont read the comments
Maki1 [2k\]: beginning inseis are a lot weaker in general than euro 6 or 7d
jjermann [5d?\]: hmm not sure about that
myongstu [4d\]: in korea the gap between 10th group and first group is about 1 stone. the players of 10th group are already euro 6d
A1R [4k\]: ha!
A1R [4k\]: thx myongstu
A1R [4k\]: ^^
Zahlman [1k\]: how can they make that fine a distinction? seriously?
Zahlman [1k\]: that's less than the gap between bottom pros and top pros
deft [4d\]: I've played a korean insei who was maybe 12-13 years old, and he wasn't _that_ much stronger than me
deft [4d\]: maybe euro 5d level
profan [6k?\]: can you tell me the purpose of n13?
Lake [11k\]: finally the right question
Zahlman [1k\]: n13 kind of a focal point
Zahlman [1k\]: nothing else to do except oyose
NschoTschi [-\]: Start endgame at g18 ?
Zahlman [1k\]: I'm thinking h6 is similarly big
adsf [2d\]: it's simple, every new insei in korea start at the lowest levels, if they end in top 4 they move one rank up ect if 4 worst they drop rank, unless thay changed it this year?
BUUUM: i dont take a shower for at least 4 days .... is that bad for me?
adsf [2d\]: I heard the selection for new entry is pretty severe too, so who know how many league are below the insei one
kryft [1d\]: I watched Mok Chinseok's commentary of the game between Rob van Zeijst and Catalin Taranu. It was comforting to see how many blunders even players at their level still make. :)
dmf [14k\]: kryft, where can i find that commentary?
Maki1 [2k\]: I never took a shower in my entire life and I am healthy as an ox.
Cv [-\]: bummm you smell a lot if you don't take a shower
kryft [1d\]: dmf, You can't; it was a live lecture at the EGC.
dmf [14k\]: ok :)
kryft [1d\]: dmf, Oh, hmm, actually it may have been taped by EuroGoTV.
ogre [2d?\]: did they tape any of those?
BUUUM: i smell suck but.. im f. cold is this some problem for my health or no?
kryft [1d\]: ogre, At least some of them yes, maybe all of them. I don't know where those tapes end up, though. :)
Maki1 [2k\]: I take a bath every day though, so I smell of roses ;)
ogre [2d?\]: maybe they post em on youtube or eurogotv 
BUUUM: its becouse im a man but i have long hair ... its to cold!!
ogre [2d?\]: will watch if do
Bulbasaur [4k\]: after N13 was played I decided that I would go offline after black played his next move.......he's taking sooo long
Maki1 [2k\]: N13 must have been good since it made him think so much
Cv [-\]: if you cold just go in africa
Cv [-\]: in sahara
grumpyjoe [-\]: nice solution
kryft [1d\]: Maki1, Or it was really bad, and he's thinking about how to seal the game with the next move. ;) (Nah, I think it was a good move.)
grumpyjoe [-\]: very practical
BUUUM: that was great
Cv [-\]: thx^^
Maki1 [2k\]: Sahara can actually be freezing cold
deft [4d\]: endgame is beginning so I think he's calculating the values of several endgame moves
BUUUM: i dont want get sahara at 00:00
ogre [2d?\]: he might actually play g18
BUUUM: xD
Cv [-\]: yes me to
kryft [1d\]: Maki1, (Of course I don't know very little about the goodness of moves. :)
deft [4d\]: this is actually a good place to ponder for a while
kryft [1d\]: Maki1, ... I mean I know very little. :P
kryft [1d\]: deft, Right.
BUUUM: ok in the truth i dont take shower for 7 days.. 
BUUUM: long hair... =/ 
BUUUM: bad? .......
ogre [2d?\]: this has been a peaceful game tho so far
dilos [3d\]: i would play h6 or p12
ptitlou [2d\]: h6 then q9 q7 ?
Cv [-\]: you are a a big pig
ogre [2d?\]: i would prefer if it had some action before the end
Smilogo [6k\]: profan:n13 puts pressure on e14-group,reduce b territory and want build own territory 
Cv [-\]: xD
BUUUM: its becouse im to tired for take a shower maybe im depressed
Maki1 [2k\]: enough about the shower, admin pls warn
BUUUM: :(
cherisse [1k\]: wow still no move
SanKingTim [?\]: b in trouble
BUUUM: j9 is the key
runny [1d\]: isn't H6 rude for w ?
Cv [-\]: if you are depressed just fuck girl
Cv [-\]: ^^
BUUUM: i cant
BUUUM: im ugly and not strong
Maki1 [2k\]: boot
twenty [4d?\]: lol
ChrisSon [5k\]: ban
Cv [-\]: why small dick?
Maki1 [2k\]: bye
walleye [2k\]: amazing g18
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B 81  W 109 minutes left
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;B[gb]C[ogre [2d?\]: nice one milan
]
;W[fb]C[Maki1 [2k\]: wow, milan move
BUUUM: well not small but my is very diff d..
BUUUM: its kinda weird 
Cv [-\]: euro
MrTortoise [5k\]: whats the link to the live feed?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and nobody betted this move on EuroGoTV hahahaha
TimoGo [6k\]: G18 looks so small?
Cv [-\]: live brodcast plz
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
BUUUM: cv
MrTortoise [5k\]: ta
BUUUM: it is offline
Cv [-\]: no
BUUUM: dont worry... maybe they will work on it
Cv [-\]: i dont want to be kike
ogre [2d?\]: betters ignored milan commen. doh
Cv [-\]: just 4 time in a week
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: everybody was wrong; i got all the points
berdsk [-\]: Ilia played like MilanMilan!
ogre [2d?\]: grats euro
BUUUM: cv im small d.. ugly not strong and 7 days no shower and long hair :( ima weird person im tired of that -.-
just9x9 [-\]: was that one of the bugs you fixed eurogotv? :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
BUUUM: ima virgen
Blitzcore [3d\]: nschotschi called it...
BUUUM: :(!
Danielsan [2k\]: EuroGoTV do you give odds, or just 1:1 ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no it is ceil(total bets/winners)
Cv [-\]: if you have a small d.... you can eat a puss...
BUUUM: i neva kissed a girl :(
BUUUM: i hav 20 years already
BUUUM: im weird!!!
BUUUM: god!
Danielsan [2k\]: Ah ok, thanks
Cv [-\]: ^^
Q161 [?\]: stop talking and watch the game
BUUUM: ok sry =d
Cv [-\]: srx q161
ogre [2d?\]: let go be your girl
strong10k [-\]: you wont ever kiss a girl if you keep trolling
alkar: q9
BUUUM: im ridiclous person io want get better person =/
Bulbasaur [4k\]: how about S6 ? looks also big for both
RiT [5d\]: just censor him?
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;B[qk]C[cherisse [1k\]: O_O
Cv [-\]: if you want kiss girl just do a party
BUUUM: i dont hav friends
Maki1 [2k\]: r9 hopes to play h6 later I think
Junction3 [1d\]: hahaha
Cv [-\]: and you drink alcool
BUUUM: i dont drink alcool my health bad
just9x9 [-\]: you will end up with no friends here as well
Smilogo [6k\]: looks like the most aggressive way :)
Blitzcore [3d\]: too late...
ptitlou [2d\]: i would have played h6 before r9...
BUUUM: i need alcool for get friends? :)
Bulbasaur [4k\]: no
Cv [-\]: wow BUM ou are a really big shittt
BUUUM: thats trye
Blitzcore [3d\]: yes you obviously need
BUUUM: true
Cv [-\]: xD
BUUUM: ........
NschoTschi [-\]: please guys!
Cv [-\]: sorry$
BUUUM: sorry all
A1R [4k\]: q9
deft [4d\]: Q9 Q10
Morla [5d\]: q9 seems wrong
Junction3 [1d\]: s9 seems compliant
BUUUM: r8?
Blitzcore [3d\]: r8 looks fun
deft [4d\]: I think W has nothing better than S9
Junction3 [1d\]: same :<
NschoTschi [-\]: q9 seems like what b want w to do. But I dont see how it is wrong
myongstu [4d\]: s9 s10 
deft [4d\]: R12 aji is  important here
BUUUM: r8 pro ;)
NschoTschi [-\]: r12 has some aji left?
NschoTschi [-\]: :)
sameasyou [2d\]: r8 nice but not many points on the side
deft [4d\]: S9 S10 Q9
BUUUM: i think im talking alone all already censor me :D lol
deft [4d\]: not good for B
Cv [-\]: bumm all censor you because you a shitt^^
BUUUM: yes
BUUUM: hehe
Cv [-\]: xD
BUUUM: :D
AEK [-\]: enough
dilos [3d\]: s9 s8 
Cv [-\]: sorry
BUUUM: r12 aji is really painfull
alexanderp [?\]: I think b stands a little better and ahead. W's territory is more reducable than b's.
Junction3 [1d\]: q8 to ambitious?
BUUUM: q8 risky
A1R [4k\]: is n17 bad aji for b?
ogre [2d?\]: i think q9 q10 
ogre [2d?\]: i mean if w goe q9 b has q10
ogre [2d?\]: so its not looking so good
FangFa [2d\]: How come we never saw white's game transcribed here before round 9 ?
deft [4d\]: so W should S9 not Q9
Qrys [6k\]: r8 not be good ? 
Junction3 [1d\]: q8 could work
Maki1 [2k\]: we were concentrating on Kang
ogre [2d?\]: q9 r8  wuld be good for w
ogre [2d?\]: of course w should s9
Ailura [7k\]: what time is it there?
Ooommm [11k?\]: 12:11
Ailura [7k\]: are they going to seal a move for lunch?
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;W[rk]C[Maki1 [2k\]: no
Ooommm [11k?\]: no
ogre [2d?\]: nope they go hard all game long in europe
BUUUM: now some hane
Ailura [7k\]: mm sounds hot
runny [1d\]: they eat during the game
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: chinese and other users where ustream is blocked can watch at  https://www.vtunnel.com/index.php/1010110A/dc18b9730cacfce3d9a8034f7e9dc69216611d562088593c937046754e1ac333045ee5755515868
Junction3 [1d\]: stones are not as good as chicken burgers
ogre [2d?\]: nice eurogotv!
BUUUM: not working eurogo
BUUUM: ....
BUUUM: im not joking
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: in China it works
BUUUM: try brasil please
BUUUM: i need ur help
BUUUM: ...
Smilogo [6k\]: they play until they are starved :)
Blitzcore [3d\]: wow ilya starts inchwise rocking...
FangFa [2d\]: ah thanks for the link !!
headache [2d\]: It works in the Netherlands
FangFa [2d\]: i wish I had the link for the first games :?
Q161 [?\]: if ilya wins this and artem wins on board 2, will they play each other again?
Nessus [10k\]: how much time do each players have left?
Blitzcore [3d\]: unlikely
FangFa [2d\]: :/ **
ogre [2d?\]: its not so good of us tho. he probably readed our comments on here and decided to try to stop moving as much
koha [1d\]: the funny vtunnel link works for me, but I prefer the normal one
Maki1 [2k\]: you best friend is the person who points out your faults
BUUUM: well that just a proxy
BUUUM: dont works
BUUUM: .......
ogre [2d?\]: yeah but not if we keep to talk about it after the point has come across?
chrpa [1k\]: video not important
strong10k [-\]: cross cut
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: video very important
BUUUM: j10 so biggggggggggg
chrpa [1k\]: for what eurogo?
ogre [2d?\]: yes you get to know the players more with video
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: me
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
Maki1 [2k\]: q9
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;B[pk]C[Maki1 [2k\]: yes
]
;W[rl]C[ogre [2d?\]: its good. like i dont know what benjamin teuber is like and it made me in my imagination
BUUUM: thats why i dont get vip member on that^^ poor service dont working / blocked :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you cannot pay for it
BUUUM: and not support to change to another .. just fail admins eurogo.. wel if that have any adm :D K
alexanderp [?\]: EuroGoTV1, how much time Ilya have? 
deft [4d\]: I don't like this result for B because now W will get the big S6 sente which B could have taken instead of this sequence
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: your mum doesnt want to give her creditcard to you
BUUUM: for b looks strange
BUUUM: now he just hav to q7 sente
FangFa [2d\]: AH in fact the link still doesn't work for me 
deft [4d\]: so in a way the Q9 stones get heavy
BUUUM: or first q11 / q10
FangFa [2d\]: no stream
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B 70 W 100 minutes left
eatramen [22k\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/EuroGoTV1
Summers: I think b want's to make use of L5 stones somehow
ogre [2d?\]: b go q10 and then jump back with p7
FangFa [2d\]: thanks for the link eatramen i'll try it
BUUUM: i dont know why eurogo angry whit himself about this ugly service of ustream, just change it.. anyway who says about mums must be at least 15 year... ;) thats why no one here pay vip service... really bad maintence :D
eatramen [22k\]: np, hope it works for you fangfa, some ppl have trouble with the stream sometimes
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i will make sure that the next tournament (Iasi in Romania) will be broadcasted from my own server so i never will use ustream again
qgo [4k\]: I pay VIP service
jaapaaa: ustream should be dead
deft [4d\]: how will you pay for the bandwidth?
jaapaaa: in few weeks.. this troubles are very embarasting
headache [2d\]: try to click on the frozen picture. It worked for me.
Maki1 [2k\]: complaining about a free service is a bit ....
ogre [2d?\]: the trouble is a natural disaster
qgo [4k\]: you can watch the game, is it so important to see the players?
chrpa [1k\]: exactly
deft [4d\]: streaming video to so many users must cost a bit
ogre [2d?\]: its because of the solar flare that hit the earth 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, i am complaining on those who keep on adveticing the wron link
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: wrong
alexanderp [?\]: Eurogo, ustream is a distrubuted network as I understand, are you sure your own 1 server will better handle load than Ustream? What if it will get down or can't handle hundreds of connections?
jaapaaa: is justin tv better?
jim [6d\]: J7 I like for white
eatramen [22k\]: maybe its the software your using with ustream EuroGo, i know people who stream like street fighter tournaments every week, and it has great quality with no problems
jim [6d\]: and H6 for black
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no not better more ads there
alexanderp [?\]: In my experience, Ustream is best. At least it works in most cases.
jaapaaa: but why that keeps blocking my friends?
chrpa [1k\]: h6 now
alexanderp [?\]: well, Ustream doesn't block China. China blocks Ustream.
eatramen [22k\]: lol
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: true, but i want the Chinese to see my strwams
jaapaaa: if its forever ustream will lost lots money
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: streams
chrpa [1k\]: or g5 gim?
Orc [2k?\]: china block youtube, facebook, wiki
eatramen [22k\]: really?
Orc [2k?\]: yeah
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but they will not block EuroGoTV
eatramen [22k\]: why?
FangFa [2d\]: yes
jaapaaa: yes i tryed find more videos of go and they was removed by violation acess!! now i cant never c choi chikun on youtube!!
FangFa [2d\]: it's annoying :/
qgo [4k\]: what is China so afraid of?
ekku [-\]: proxies should work even there :)
un [2k\]: what a beautiful country :) Life without facebook and youtube !
eatramen [22k\]: yeah proxies ftw
Stoneflow [-\]: h9?
alexanderp [?\]: Chinese users should be used to evading gvt restrictions with proxies, vtunnel.com, VPN and other similar services.
Maki1 [2k\]: China is a fraid of people who do not get out of the way when tanks are rolling closer
strong10k [-\]: china has own version of facebook and youtube
jaapaaa: canada is blocked too or canada blocked ustream?
Nickless [2d\]: co tam ?
strong10k [-\]: they want to monopolize the media
alexanderp [?\]: that's completely offtopic, though
VickyH [2d\]: who is better now?
jaapaaa: china awesome go playing why block :((((
chrpa [1k\]: but p7 important
twenty [4d?\]: hes coughing !
Stoneflow [-\]: en
zc3k [1k\]: all, korean ultra super strong?
Ailura [7k\]: he played at Q7
Ailura [7k\]: eurogo fallin asleep
ogre [2d?\]: he looks to me so healthier than he was
eatramen [22k\]: he looks better than yesterday 
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;B[pm]
;W[ih]C[twenty [4d?\]: is he ill?
Maki1 [2k\]: ooo ah
jaapaaa: nice english twenty
twenty [4d?\]: lol .. my eng is weird
akula [1d\]: j13, h14?
Syptryn [3d\]: wow
Syptryn [3d\]: I went to have lunch
Syptryn [3d\]: and they played 1 move?
Syptryn [3d\]: lol
Maki1 [2k\]: mwuhahahahaha
jaapaaa: wow q7 sente move was weird!
Maki1 [2k\]: sente move?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Kang won
FangFa [2d\]: against whom ?
ogre [2d?\]: goooo kang!!!
Maki1 [2k\]: pops open the champaign
Maki1 [2k\]: go go Kang!!!
ogre [2d?\]: she beated teuber
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: against Benjamin Teuber
china1l: is video online?
FangFa [2d\]: Thanks
peeeeep3s: game over?
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;B[ig]
;W[jh]C[A1R [4k\]: so fast?
]
;B[ji]C[FangFa [2d\]: Dinerchtein is still alive or he resigned from life ?
ogre [2d?\]: oh ilia giving chaelim the gaze
eatramen [22k\]: YES KANG WON YES!
Maki1 [2k\]: he resigne and got a job in marketing
peeeeep3s: blow job?
peeeeep3s: HEhe
Maki1 [2k\]: h13
eatramen [22k\]: lol
Maki1 [2k\]: l12 first
ArtemiyGo [6k\]: mb k13 
akula [1d\]: h13
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Maki1 [2k\]: L12
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;W[hg]C[twenty [4d?\]: doesnt work
twenty [4d?\]: k13
Maki1 [2k\]: I thought he needed to prepare outside
twenty [4d?\]: k13 or j14 .. both should work
akula [1d\]: k11 seems a mistake
Hiropro [2d\]: L12 ><
FangFa [2d\]: who's chae lim I never saw his name
Newstyle [5k\]: g13 h14 f14 eye in gote - is it enough for life
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: her
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: she is a woman
FangFa [2d\]: oh ok
Maki1 [2k\]: your kidding
eatramen [22k\]: kim is a woman?
Maki1 [2k\]: ok, sorry
A1R [4k\]: yes
Maki1 [2k\]: thanks
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: this one is the other Kim  who plays here is a man
A1R [4k\]: thats junghyeop
FangFa [2d\]: And she lives in europe just like Kang (so many new korean players)
eatramen [22k\]: ohhh there are two kins, ok
eatramen [22k\]: *kims
ptitlou [2d\]: black can close the outisde and wrap the inside with the throw in at g15 to live no ?
Maki1 [2k\]: wow, here I was feeling sorry for that "woman"...
qgo [4k\]: b d 12 group has to live
Syptryn [3d\]: l12 k13 l13 j14 k14 j13 g13 h14 f14 d15 b12 b11 a13 
Syptryn [3d\]: black cn live fine for em
weak5k [2k\]: m12 works for b?
Hiropro [2d\]: L12 >< 
weak5k [2k\]: maybe m12 enough
memur74 [5k\]: d15?
Syptryn [3d\]: l-12, make white a dumbpling
Syptryn [3d\]: then lvie inside
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;B[de]C[Hiropro [2d\]: ^^ 
Maki1 [2k\]: ahhhh, so ka
eatramen [22k\]: artem won on board 2
sameasyou [2d\]: do u know anything about Taranu, Cornel, Mero or Dinerstein?
Blitzcore [3d\]: benni lost vs kang on board 3
sameasyou [2d\]: no surprise there
Maki1 [2k\]: artem can still win this tournament
weak5k [2k\]: how?
weak5k [2k\]: if illia lose?
eatramen [22k\]: only if ilia loes
sameasyou [2d\]: if Ilya lose this one Artem is the favourite to win
Maki1 [2k\]: or better SOS
Syptryn [3d\]: so submissive?
peeeeep3s: was b+res
koha [1d\]: this lives too
twenty [4d?\]: well.. b is not supposed to lose here
weak5k [2k\]: artem can't get better sos becouse only 1 round left
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;W[cd]C[Maki1 [2k\]: ok
Blubbel [1k\]: whats sos
Blitzcore [3d\]: Sum Of Opponents
Isobeutel [4k\]: sum of opponent score
goIngo [?\]: white seems to have an edge, according to manyfaces
IceSpectre [4k\]: can anyone put the link to the result of the tourny ? 
weak5k [2k\]: b15 huge
jinkidie [19k?\]: were you guys watching board 2?
ogre [2d?\]: dont listen to manyfaces
LovroKlc [2k\]: what about Catalin?
Stefany93 [14k\]: Is Kim korean?
alexanderp [?\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-results.txt
A1R [4k\]: yes
goIngo [?\]: why not, it is an additional opinion
ogre [2d?\]: its a weak opinion
IceSpectre [4k\]: alexanderp, Thanks :)
weiqidevil [-\]: Can you see, what ManyFaces counts as points?
goIngo [?\]: at least it predicted board 2 events today
ogre [2d?\]: manyfaces is same as se
goIngo [?\]: not points, but percents
chrpa [1k\]: b15 not possible?
weiqidevil [-\]: Ah ok^^
Blitzcore [3d\]: se is god
koha [1d\]: many faces is a lot stronger than score est
A1R [4k\]: sos are the points from the opponents mms?
LovroKlc [2k\]: is CAtalin TAranu game over?
tapir [2d\]: how is kim junghyeop vs thomas debarre going?
goIngo [?\]: nono, many faces in monte carlo mode is dan-level
ogre [2d?\]: bah
NorthWind [5k\]: in SE we trust
goIngo [?\]: many faces now: 42 % for black
alexanderp [?\]: that's bad
avio [2d\]: usually the leading player get's second SOS at the end
weak5k [2k\]: many faces so wrong
jinkidie [19k?\]: Se works pretty good if you look at it to see if it has made an obvious and unbalanced goof.
peeeeep3s: many faces cool
twenty [4d?\]: c15 = alive ehh?
memur74 [5k\]: wht wrote on the paper :)
dmf [14k\]: e14 dead?
twenty [4d?\]: ah n
twenty [4d?\]: o
RyuuGan [1d\]: not yet
weak5k [2k\]: b15 enough for life
NschoTschi [-\]: In Newfoundland one says 'In Cod we trust'
Trumelunki [4d\]: please, do report many faces, just distracts from good kibitz
twenty [4d?\]: f14
twenty [4d?\]: is alive
weak5k [2k\]: f14 bad
twenty [4d?\]: would be 2 eyes
chrpa [1k\]: j14
Syptryn [3d\]: l12 k13 l13 k14 k13 g13 h14 
NorthWind [5k\]: yeah no computers here
Syptryn [3d\]: then tenuki
Ailura [7k\]: if F14 then F13
qgo [4k\]: e 16
weak5k [2k\]: but b15 huge
twenty [4d?\]: after f14 e13
Trumelunki [4d\]: do not report, typo
NschoTschi [-\]: The question is not if alive. the question is how is the best way to life
twenty [4d?\]: then g13 and then g15
twenty [4d?\]: done
IceSpectre [4k\]: f14 f13 e13 g13 g15 h14 h15 j14 k14 ..................
goIngo [?\]: ignore my comments when you do not like them
Q161 [?\]: ignore his comments on your comments if you do not like them
Danielsan [2k\]: goingo, what is the latest version of many faces?
weak5k [2k\]: g13 life bug greedy
peeeeep3s: yes
peeeeep3s: b
peeeeep3s: dead
weak5k [2k\]: but*
goIngo [?\]: mfog 12.0020
weak5k [2k\]: b dead? :)
Blitzcore [3d\]: b not dead
goIngo [?\]: from march 2010
sameasyou [2d\]: b not dead at all
kostuek [-\]: c15 b13 g13 
Pische [-\]: uhm
weak5k [2k\]: b15 b13 g13 h14 f14 
NschoTschi [-\]: k14 ?
jinkidie [19k?\]: eyes at b15 and d14 ?
weak5k [2k\]: but this greedy
peeeeep3s: b dead ^^^
twenty [4d?\]: i think F14 is the best choice
akula [1d\]: L12
peeeeep3s: b resigns...
peeeeep3s: tanks all
Ailura [7k\]: G13, H14, F14
akula [1d\]: b is alive
o3epo [1k\]: l12,j14, g15
NorthWind [5k\]: c15 seems ok
twenty [4d?\]: c15 doesnt work
twenty [4d?\]: c15, b13
Stoneflow [-\]: g13 f13
kryft [1d\]: I wish there was a button for censoring all guests.
memur74 [5k\]: can we find the sgf files of eurogotv1
headache [2d\]: I think b15 is best
NorthWind [5k\]: c15 b13   b14
ogre [2d?\]: how about d9 no0w
Ailura [7k\]: if g13 f13 then h14
dodododo: you can clone the game
memur74 [5k\]: old games ?
dodododo: without any gests
Trumelunki [4d\]: User -> View User information
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you can find sgfs in my info
jinkidie [19k?\]: twenty: c15 b13 b14 ...?
ArtemiyGo [6k\]: b15 b13 b14 b12 g13 h14 f14 e15 c15 f15 
ogre [2d?\]: d9 answeres c16 kill threat and make a little movement of undermining
peeeeep3s: wow artemiygo totaly wrong sequence
dodododo: try it kryft
NorthWind [5k\]: no b12 a15
headache [2d\]: how about time?
ArtemiyGo [6k\]: mb :D
chro [4k\]: f14 
Stoneflow [-\]: g13 only working life
Goliamus [6k\]: e16 OK ?
weak5k [2k\]: f14 f13
weak5k [2k\]: oups no
weak5k [2k\]: :)
jinkidie [19k?\]: it is getting kinda tight in therer anyhoo
Stoneflow [-\]: e16 doesnt give eyes. but maybe in endgame
weak5k [2k\]: b15 best end game move
kimidori [1d\]: F14's ok too
ogre [2d?\]: e16 does give eye
JoostC [4d\]: Black can first exchange L12, w K13, b J14 and live with F 14
Goliamus [6k\]: ah ok
ogre [2d?\]: yea maek the rolly polly
Stoneflow [-\]: hmm
o3epo [1k\]: b l12,j14, g15
JoostC [4d\]: Black must prevent a white stone on J14
Q161 [?\]: eurogo can you plz give players times?
JoostC [4d\]: white L12 would give white good shape too
cherisse [1k\]: wattup kyu brothers
jinkidie [19k?\]: iz kewl
ix7 [8k\]: bf14 f13 e13 g15 (or connect differently for w)
NorthWind [5k\]: hey cheri, kyus rule
ix7 [8k\]: then it's a false eye
ix7 [8k\]: or am I wrong?
goIngo [?\]: manyfaces expects b12
ptitlou [2d\]: time to l12 no ?
Prutser [5k\]: would B J14 work?
ogre [2d?\]: ok yeah thats make sense
ogre [2d?\]: rolly pollys bad
strong10k [-\]: read this long for this move?
ptitlou [2d\]: and l11 ?
jinkidie [19k?\]: well I guess he really wants the best way here
kostuek [-\]: read till the endgame
dilos [3d\]: l12 k13 l13 
o3epo [1k\]: b l12
ogre [2d?\]: i think the roly poly gives b amarigatachi dilos
Alternate [?\]: i thinkk joostc proposition is best l12 k13 j14 first then defend
]
;B[bh]
;W[bi]C[Alternate [?\]: wrong ;-)
]
;B[ag]C[jinkidie [19k?\]: k8 is kinda in the heart of things. Someone should play it just to drive everyone nuts
Maki1 [2k\]: MF is strong
jinkidie [19k?\]: oo clever
Alternate [?\]: strange makes b15 sente??
ogre [2d?\]: its amazing how he chooses betweeen the moves so carefully
]
;W[me]C[goIngo [?\]: manyfaces: 62 % for white now
Maki1 [2k\]: thanks
ogre [2d?\]: d11 is some aji
alexanderp [?\]: goIngo, does it mean b has 38% chances to win?
cherisse [1k\]: omg i can't believe what happened to board two. my kyu brothers would have continued till the end.
laroja [3d\]: it means nothing
]
;B[md]C[goIngo [?\]: not directly
NorthWind [5k\]: where is W cash ?
goIngo [?\]: but values about 70 % means rather sure win
]
;W[nk]C[alexanderp [?\]: Rooting for Ilya...
Danielsan [2k\]: Where can you get this update for manyfaces?
MaLa [2d\]: rooting for ChaeLim
alexanderp [?\]: he needs then something strong to do
goIngo [?\]: from fotlands website
ptitlou [2d\]: q10 then h6 at last !
Maki1 [2k\]: I think w can still win but b seems ahead
goIngo [?\]: www.smart-games.com
]
;B[di]C[Danielsan [2k\]: Thanks
just9x9 [-\]: wow
just9x9 [-\]: here we go
jinkidie [19k?\]: there's yer aji
Maki1 [2k\]: timesuji?
ptitlou [2d\]: preparing j9? 
Q161 [?\]: no
lcck [1k?\]: h10?
ogre [2d?\]: goingo valuea about 70 % mean sure win what does that mean?
ogre [2d?\]: it means nothing?
goIngo [?\]: not "sure" but rather sure
ogre [2d?\]: what stage of the game are you talking about?
goIngo [?\]: for: 1-dan vs 1-dan  win in 95 %
ogre [2d?\]: is there statistics of testing on this program?
Syptryn [3d\]: nice probe
goIngo [?\]: of the cases
Syptryn [3d\]: but he shoulda done this before A-13
goIngo [?\]: when it shows 70 %
ogre [2d?\]: i think its a lie
goIngo [?\]: ogre, I did lots of testing this
ogre [2d?\]: manually? lol
goIngo [?\]: results unpublished
goIngo [?\]: right, manually
goIngo [?\]: and you leeearn a lot by this
memur74 [5k\]: whats a probe?
alexanderp [?\]: we can take your word for this, goIngo. 
vannab [3k\]: is this a probe?
Maki1 [2k\]: a move played to reveal your opponents plan
]
;W[ci]C[Koukkaaja [3d\]: not a probe
Veivi [4d\]: more like a timing thing
JoostC [4d\]: White must make a lot of territory: If C11 black can play H10 or J5 and the center is nothing for white
Veivi [4d\]: later on w might not answer like this, but now he obv will
ogre [2d?\]: u should do the right way and have it scripted to evaluate and leave it on for a long time evaluating game databases befor you mek such claim and then you would be able to give better claims
NschoTschi [-\]: e8 
goIngo [?\]: sorry, but I am experienced
goIngo [?\]: 20 years in computer chess
goIngo [?\]: another 5 years in computer go
alexanderp [?\]: if b makes such a move as d11, he understand his chances well
Maki1 [2k\]: I think his claim is very helpful, ogre. he is not saying this is certain, just that it gives a strong inidication
]
;B[en]C[goIngo [?\]: maybe even not a strong indication
goIngo [?\]: but sopme indication
Maki1 [2k\]: yes, for sure
ptitlou [2d\]: this is going to be good !
Athanor [-\]: poor w?
JoostC [4d\]: Black thinks about F2 i think
Koukkaaja [3d\]: q6 for white seems reasonable
goIngo [?\]: 63 % white
]
;W[dn]
;B[dm]C[headache [2d\]: wow Ilya has guts!
]
;W[fm]C[altrecop [1k\]: h6 :D
vannab [3k\]: i think it's an indication on the same level MF plays..
ptitlou [2d\]: f2 not working ?
memur74 [5k\]: and he begins going back and forward
globax [2d\]: to get h6 sente
]
;B[ek]C[goIngo [?\]: of course mf predicts nonsense when there is semeai
Koukkaaja [3d\]: it back back and forth than only forth
Athanor [-\]: b just want to cut
memur74 [5k\]: :)
ogre [2d?\]: goingo could you just be quiet until yose?
ogre [2d?\]: please?
globax [2d\]: looking for g7 afterwards
goIngo [?\]: ignore me, ogre
ogre [2d?\]: when at yose i will believe you honest
]
;W[fk]C[JoostC [4d\]: Black G7 looks nice
Athanor [-\]: not playing f6 kills alot of aji for b...
Pische [-\]: ogre stop trolling
kostuek [-\]: who is mf at all
kryft [1d\]: kostuek, Many faces of go, a program
goIngo [?\]: many faces of go - strong commercial bot
NorthWind [5k\]: no idea
peeeeep3s: mf  = mot f?
ogre [2d?\]: i am not the only one who is bothered by this kind of perception of a go game
kostuek [-\]: i see thx
peeeeep3s: ogre nice fake account you lost by a 6k whit no hc^^
altrecop [1k\]: this game looks very black
JoostC [4d\]: White F9 and F7 made black J11 weaker so he must do something there
igaz: .
ogre [2d?\]: yes and when did you start watching this game peep3s
shjunpo: ogre nice troller^^
memur74 [5k\]: how is time there?
NorthWind [5k\]: is this reducing W or making him stronger ?
gabigo [4k?\]: meybe both?
JoostC [4d\]: How about black H6?
chrpa [1k\]: its so complicated that we dont even guess moves :)
AhSayuni [4d\]: what good is h6?
goIngo [?\]: ok: e8 now for black (manyfaces)
shjunpo: good yose
]
;B[fr]C[sameasyou [2d\]: I think h6 would have been better before d11...Ilya must have a plan different than h6
ptitlou [2d\]: wow, if this doesn't wotk, he gonna loses some points
altrecop [1k\]: do you think w can win this? black points are solid
ptitlou [2d\]: *work
ogre [2d?\]: there is still some potential fighting 
goIngo [?\]: mf: 64 % white
]
;W[fs]
;B[dl]C[Athanor [-\]: mf = magic find?
NorthWind [5k\]: W need to kill something ?
goIngo [?\]: many faces
]
;W[ej]C[kostuek [-\]: mf sure joking
Maki1 [2k\]: mf is pretty strong these days
alexanderp [?\]: i think b needs to kill something and he goes for it...as always
Fenix [?\]: b gonna pull out F6? oO
]
;B[fn]C[Shibui [2d?\]: ah, mf doesn't mean mother f&*$# then..?
BALLZ [3k\]: this looks like some crazy thing going on
chrpa [1k\]: here we go
NorthWind [5k\]: oh please, spare us the mf nonsense
Maki1 [2k\]: I dont think b needs to kill anything
goIngo [?\]: 66 % white
NschoTschi [-\]: this is over 9000
BALLZ [3k\]: just like the bottom invasion in last game
sameasyou [2d\]: as I said...different than h6 :)...he knew Artem won and he wants that title it seems :)
goIngo [?\]: mf  f4
Syptryn [3d\]: black is messy around in white terriroty
]
;W[gn]C[alexanderp [?\]: this is deciding game for b...
Syptryn [3d\]: this isn't too bad
NschoTschi [-\]: f8 ?
sameasyou [2d\]: g7
kryft [1d\]: Athanor, I always think of magic find too. :D
Athanor [-\]: too much Diablo
Danielsan [2k\]: diablo ^^
kryft [1d\]: Athanor, No such thing!
FraTeoX [1k\]: f5 or g7
Athanor [-\]: the Third is on its way
RyuuGan [1d\]: f8 ?
Kazashi [-\]: G7 is so good
altrecop [1k\]: black greedy?
Fenix [?\]: h6?
Syptryn [3d\]: g7 will slice white in 2
memur74 [5k\]: f8?
Syptryn [3d\]: bad left side can live
JoostC [4d\]: If G7 black F8?
altrecop [1k\]: is alive i think
altrecop [1k\]: miai with b9  and h9 ;?
jinkidie [19k?\]: Life keeps poses these awkward questions, like should I study go or go level my orc?
gregorius: lokks bad for W
sameasyou [2d\]: if f5 then w g2...f5 not good for b
Athanor [-\]: g7 g8 h7 f5 f8 e5 e8 b9 
sameasyou [2d\]: only g7
]
;B[jq]
;W[kr]C[BALLZ [3k\]: looks good for w
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
engelchen [1d\]: lol bs stopped playing noisy stones
StefanRadu [1k\]: maybe he wants g1 f5
sameasyou [2d\]: h5
NorthWind [5k\]: B loves a kikashi
gregorius: Yes :) looks god for W
strong10k [-\]: pretty close, i think white ahead though
altrecop [1k\]: needs g2 then Stefan
memur74 [5k\]: whats k3 for
altrecop [1k\]: aji
baradlai [1k\]: takes 1 lib of j4
altrecop [1k\]: i think ;?
baradlai [1k\]: j4
ogre [2d?\]: g1 not work at all
baradlai [1k\]: nope
baradlai [1k\]: miai for w
Syptryn [3d\]: right
kukulis4 [2d\]: may be I am wrong, but I counted about 45 points for white and 55 points for black
Syptryn [3d\]:  see purpose
sameasyou [2d\]: g7 now and h5 after for b
ogre [2d?\]: g1 e1 f5 g5 
ogre [2d?\]: miai for w
BALLZ [3k\]: i also count b more, but i cant imagine w behind if b doesnt get anything out of this try
]
;B[fo]C[baradlai [1k\]: g5 simpli
sameasyou [2d\]: g2
goIngo [?\]: many faces 68 % white
Danielsan [2k\]: looks to me b can cut
memur74 [5k\]: i wonder what he thinks
kukulis4 [2d\]: k3 removed 1 lib from K4 group
tapir [2d\]: Who cares about Many Faces, please.
goIngo [?\]: mf expecting g2
andreiraz [5k\]:  h7 
Alternate [?\]: g2?
baradlai [1k\]: h7?
sameasyou [2d\]: what else?
Alternate [?\]: g5 then g2
baradlai [1k\]: it's better to pass :P
sameasyou [2d\]: if g5 then b g4
Maki1 [2k\]: I appreciate info from mf
kukulis4 [2d\]: white g2 forced
sameasyou [2d\]: not good for w
Mipaline [6k?\]: g2 seems saving the group
jinkidie [19k?\]: hm g2 connects everything dont it
Athanor [-\]: g5 g4 exchange is really good for b
memur74 [5k\]: then g7?
StefanRadu [1k\]: if w g2.. b g7. than what?
twinsen61: this type of moves is how ilia won yesterday against pop
StefanRadu [1k\]: yep... 
ogre [2d?\]: it looks so not working!
altrecop [1k\]: but w can g5 before
Danielsan [2k\]: f5 = guzumi
BALLZ [3k\]: that bottom invasion vs pop was amazing
Koukkaaja [3d\]: i do not get b, he's sure about not losing points?
kukulis4 [2d\]: well, its sente, because white has to play g2
chrpa [1k\]: black will go out
Zairex [1k\]: g11 willl diemm
ogre [2d?\]: yes g5 is ok 
sameasyou [2d\]: w can resign
headache [2d\]: wow I am impressed by b. he can connect the f line stones...
sameasyou [2d\]: g5 is not good
kibz: b is looking for f8
altrecop [1k\]: why?
BALLZ [3k\]: i thought b was ahead playing normally too
Alternate [?\]: everyone can resign but she wont ^^
ogre [2d?\]: how g5 fail ?
altrecop [1k\]: sameasyou, why g5 not good?
sameasyou [2d\]: Kim is a woman?
strong10k [-\]: lol
dishonest [-\]: LOL, I would resing straight away seeing my oponent wagging back and forth all the time, is so annoying!!
sameasyou [2d\]: because b will get out anyway
Mipaline [6k?\]: w f4?
strong10k [-\]: i thought the same
RyuuGan [1d\]: f4 g5 
Syptryn [3d\]: woa
altrecop [1k\]: :? sequence?
AngryDemon: f4 is bad
Blitzcore [3d\]: i would just peek ilya in his eyes when he starts  wagging
igaz: .
ogre [2d?\]: dont believe u sameasyou
dishonest [-\]: good advice from 3d! :)
Syptryn [3d\]: just g5 ?
NorthWind [5k\]: nah, start some counter-wagging. 
ogre [2d?\]: yes g5
Goliamus [6k\]: w g5 doesnt work ?
altrecop [1k\]: i think it works
Syptryn [3d\]: works to me
Blitzcore [3d\]: i try it every time on serious games - works good
jinkidie [19k?\]: In that situation I put a stone over each eye like a monacle and stare at the opponent
goIngo [?\]: my wife says  lunchtime
altrecop [1k\]: and cutting g11 group is not a problem
dishonest [-\]: maybe they could synch-wagg :D
AngryDemon: or wag-sync
surmezur [6d\]: lunch 99%
altrecop [1k\]: but anyway b seems ahead in my opinion, his points are solid
StefanRadu [1k\]: food is over-rated today.
Blitzcore [3d\]: maybe stream explodes then
NorthWind [5k\]: ya, wag in sync . that will annnoy Ilya nicely
Maki1 [2k\]: G5
kostuek [-\]: g4?
Goliamus [6k\]: i dont understand b f5
nanok [?\]: g2?
Maki1 [2k\]: f5 looks very kyu
baradlai [1k\]: w - g5
StefanRadu [1k\]: kyu-ish
ix7 [8k\]: f5 looks very bad shaped ^^
BALLZ [3k\]: kyu would f8 
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: g5 e4 g4 f4 g2 c5 ?
dishonest [-\]: i would be afriaid of resonance, could be dangarous
AngryDemon: f4 looks very awesome
lcck [1k?\]: g2 is ok。。。i think。g5 will lead to seki
NorthWind [5k\]: haha, kyu be proud of that one
ogre [2d?\]: ilia has surprised me often enough.
Syptryn [3d\]: g5 g4 f4 e4 e5 f4 g2 
Caribe [4k\]: there is a very thin line between a kyu and a high dan
Caribe [4k\]: ^^
Limelight [1d\]: looks for seki
Syptryn [3d\]: black seems gone
StefanRadu [1k\]: g4_
kostuek [-\]: empty triange ftw
StefanRadu [1k\]: _
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;W[gp]C[NschoTschi [-\]: g2 
NschoTschi [-\]: :(
RyuuGan [1d\]: g5 ??
ww [?\]: f5 attacks D3 white group at the same time as attaacking G6
ix7 [8k\]: lol, Caribe ^^
AngryDemon: g5!
kostuek [-\]: yay
NschoTschi [-\]: g7 
altrecop [1k\]: nice StefanRadu :D
Syptryn [3d\]: hmm wonder hat was wrong with my sequence
ogre [2d?\]: wow he didnt go g5
eatramen [22k\]: *she
baradlai [1k\]: g7
Limelight [1d\]: g5
kostuek [-\]: he
surmezur [6d\]: F7 clear
pistachio [8k\]: g1
Athanor [-\]: g5
FraTeoX [1k\]: g7
andreiraz [5k\]: g5 
StefanRadu [1k\]: i read far away :-"
surmezur [6d\]: g7
ptitlou [2d\]: f4 and then g7
StefanRadu [1k\]: only i know the sequance.
NschoTschi [-\]: g7 only move
chrpa [1k\]: milan not here to help us
ptitlou [2d\]: f4 is sente 
sameasyou [2d\]: big profit for Ilya
dishonest [-\]: LOL, he looked in to camra checking if we are watching and then started to peek his nose ! I love this guy :D
Syptryn [3d\]: oh, it a girl?
byanjiong [8k\]: f4 sente first
StefanRadu [1k\]: ^^ im here to help you chrpa!
Caribe [4k\]: lilia will pretend as if she is trying to connect to k5 group, but suddenly she will g1
chrpa [1k\]: :)
DrZoom [4k\]: g5 h5 g7 
JoostC [4d\]: If G7 white F8
chrpa [1k\]: thanks :)
kukulis4 [2d\]: black may play F4 I think
dmf [14k\]: she?
globax [2d\]: f4-g2-g7-f8 ?
kukulis4 [2d\]: but may be g1 first
baradlai [1k\]: f8 wont save w's ass
jinkidie [19k?\]: f4 g2 b dead
memur74 [5k\]: no he
Athanor [-\]: he connected
]
;B[fp]
;W[gr]C[ptitlou [2d\]: g3
pistachio [8k\]: oh snap1
Athanor [-\]: g3 self atari -1
jinkidie [19k?\]: let's here it for the kyus!
andreiraz [5k\]: g7 
baradlai [1k\]: g7 single move?
Syptryn [3d\]: I would have played G1
NorthWind [5k\]: kyu kyu kyu
pistachio [8k\]: g1 !
Syptryn [3d\]: then G3 would be atari
StefanRadu [1k\]: i really need to get a super-hero-costume. with a big kyu design on the top of the chest.
chrpa [1k\]: ko after g5
RyuuGan [1d\]: and it is written SDK :)
ix7 [8k\]: I don't like being kyu :/
andreiraz [5k\]: g5 
jinkidie [19k?\]: lol Northwind
DrZoom [4k\]: now g3 ?
alexanderp [?\]: g5 h6 it seems
dotogo [3k?\]: yeah, kyu-super-hero with kyu letter inside empty triangle
kostuek [-\]: kyus best in kibitz
globax [2d\]: not g3
NorthWind [5k\]: Stefan, be careful, you are near to assimilation line
jinkidie [19k?\]: thats a resign...
StefanRadu [1k\]: g7
Zairex [1k\]: g5 h6 h5 j5 j6 j3 works for b and g5 h5 g7 works for b
strong10k [-\]: g7, h7
JoostC [4d\]: black sacrifice but moves on the outside after b G7, w F8, b G5, w H6, b H5, w J5, b J6
Brown [1d\]: g7
ix7 [8k\]: G5?
nasredin [10k\]: at the board 2 artem win?
ArtemiyGo [6k\]: g5 
Kratzdrink [1d\]: yes
JoostC [4d\]: Ok for black
Syptryn [3d\]: g7 ?
globax [2d\]: cause j3 takes j4 if wj5 after g5-h5
StefanRadu [1k\]: g7. 
goitis [4d\]: it's a ko
wolokom [5k\]: it seems black first mistake?
Caribe [4k\]: g5 is mayoshi i guess
globax [2d\]: g7 one way
vlzFLASH [1d\]: g5 
nasredin [10k\]: AT THE BOARD 2 ARTEM WIN?
GregHouse [2d\]: b dead with an eye
Kratzdrink [1d\]: artem won
wildaxt [5k\]: y
globax [2d\]: no
RyuuGan [1d\]: g7 seems better then g5
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: sinse w is connected b clan do nothing :/
jinkidie [19k?\]: long time ago artem won
Zairex [1k\]: yeah maybe g7 first, still works for b
POTATO [4k?\]: g7?
nasredin [10k\]: THX
Doby [6k\]: is it necessary to be thin to play well?
akula [1d\]: g7
jinkidie [19k?\]: thin -ish
bolbi [-\]: nasredin: do not shout please
Unefois [1d\]: g7 f8 g5 h6 h5 j5 j6 h7 j3 h4 h2?
StefanRadu [1k\]: g7 its so obvious
Pushupman [?\]: g7 
NorthWind [5k\]: essential
Swifft [3d\]: you can be fat too
laroja [3d\]: being thin helps
baradlai [1k\]: g7 seems the best, it's the same as g5 but also takes a lib
Athanor [-\]: i'm impressed by European players, they got strong
globax [2d\]: g7-f8-g5-h6-h5, j5 not possible
ix7 [8k\]: it's unlikely you are fat if you play go
surmezur [6d\]: black can escape
enz8 [4k\]: g7
ix7 [8k\]: because if you are a little bit intelligent, you will try to live healthy and be thin ^^
lcck [1k?\]: black wont die
globax [2d\]: cause j6-h7-j3 shicho
GregHouse [2d\]: black cannot escape
dishonest [-\]: hehe, he ate it!
Syptryn [3d\]: g7 g8 h7 
RyuuGan [1d\]: g5 h6 h5 j5 
akula [1d\]: g7 and w will sacrifice e and f 7 stones
ix7 [8k\]: exceptions are pple with damaged hormonal system
globax [2d\]: b safe
chaklun [-\]: g5 h6 h5 j5 g7 f8 j6 h7 j3 h4 h2 
NorthWind [5k\]: light better than heavy
Syptryn [3d\]: now he won;t
dishonest [-\]: peeked his nose and ate it!
Trumelunki [4d\]: o9 in right place I think
lcck [1k?\]: black can eQYTRWS
ogre [2d?\]: g7 f8 g5 h6 h5 j5 j6 h7 j3 h4 h2 g3 g1 
Syptryn [3d\]: g7 does't work because
Danielsan [2k\]: yes black can escape
baradlai [1k\]: this 'll end with a resign
gabigo [4k?\]: so you say all fat peaople are stupid ix&?
Syptryn [3d\]: g7 f8 g5 h6 h5 j5 j6 h7 g3 j2 h4 j3 
sagesse [-\]: g7 f8 g5 h6 h5 j5 ?
Syptryn [3d\]: black 1 eye with 4 libs
ix7 [8k\]: no
sagesse [-\]: )
globax [2d\]: read me..
wolokom [5k\]: b can escape?
seishiro [3k\]: black can do a tesuji 
Danielsan [2k\]: black can capture g6
ix7 [8k\]: I say that this implication works: intelligent => thin
enz8 [4k\]: g7h7 is good for w ?
sagesse [-\]: g7 doesnt seem to work
Blitzcore [3d\]: he did it two times - i vote ilya for beeing ...
ix7 [8k\]: ^^
Alternate [?\]:  how to deal with what chaklun suggested?
globax [2d\]: b safe with j3 shicho
N4KED [1d\]: haha and escape where????
Q161 [?\]: is the stream black for anyone else?
ix7 [8k\]: well... maybe you are a bit right
erikk [-\]: idiotbot predicts L11
ogre [2d?\]: g7 g8 g5 h7  maybe.. looks koish
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: hey
ix7 [8k\]: most fat people I've got to know were not that bright
just9x9 [-\]: lol erikk
ix7 [8k\]: but there might be exceptions
andreiraz [5k\]: g5 
Orc [2k?\]: blk can escape
globax [2d\]: g7 is one way
deft [4d\]: G7 H7
Unefois [1d\]: yes probably black can capture g6, but  die after
wolokom [5k\]: i only see one possibel ey for b
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: g7 f8 g5 h6 h5 j5 g3 h4 h2 g1 j6 
GregHouse [2d\]: g7 f8 g5 h6 h5 j5 h4 j3 g3 h2 b dead with an eyes
deft [4d\]: this way the G5 thing isn't a problem
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: what about g7 f8 g5 h6 h5 j5 g3 h4 h2 g1 j6 
ix7 [8k\]: I know it sounds unfair oO
Blitzcore [3d\]: but this game is not on the server - how can b escape then?
Alternate [?\]: again g5 h6 h5 j5 j6 h7 j3 and then???
deft [4d\]: H7 atari before connecting F8 is important
akula [1d\]: after sequence, b want j3 atari end of the game
kostuek [-\]: tenuki
GregHouse [2d\]: best move is f8 now
andreiraz [5k\]: g5 
o3epo [1k\]: g7
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;B[pj]C[BigMac [4k\]: lol
kostuek [-\]: yay
Danielsan [2k\]: hmm what if b g7 w h7?
jinkidie [19k?\]: HeY HEY NOW, THE 19 KYU CALLED IT DEAD, THAT SETTLES IT.
Q161 [?\]: wowwww
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: g7 f8 g5 h6 h5 j5 g3 h4 h2 g1 j6  doesnt work ? :/
crusher [5k\]: Blitzcore: go to the toilet but escape from the window?
GoIsBoring [3d\]: lol
jinkidie [19k?\]: woops
Maki1 [2k\]: what is MFs analysis now?
erikk [-\]: idiotbot was closest
Q161 [?\]: rofl
jinkidie [19k?\]: lool
GregHouse [2d\]: so the 6d who said b is ok ?
globax [2d\]: i would j6
alexanderp [?\]: I hope B knows what he is doing.
Goliamus [6k\]: who is mf ?
ptitlou [2d\]: q10 doesn't mean that the b is not OK i think...
jinkidie [19k?\]: b seems to think its dead
Bruno [1d\]: is this the final match?
GoIsBoring [3d\]: g7 is so delicious and b skiped it
globax [2d\]: j6 suppress aji and reduce b influence
strong10k [-\]: mf = magicfind
strong10k [-\]: ok
]
;W[pi]C[o3epo [1k\]: b live g7
]
;B[nj]C[Hotaru1993 [4k\]: can someone tell me?
wolokom [5k\]: but agi
deft [4d\]: G7 doesn't work
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: g7 f8 g5 h6 h5 j5 g3 h4 h2 g1 j6 
lcck [1k?\]: black G7 G5 H5 J6 J3
just9x9 [-\]: omg
maligo [-\]: mf=motherf...
Mote [3k\]: why h4 ?
globax [2d\]: w j6 now
kibz: g7 works definetlxy
jinkidie [19k?\]: b g7 w f8, white connects, problem remains
GregHouse [2d\]: G7 doesn t work the kibbitz community vote for this affirmation!
BigMac [4k\]: g7 h7 
BigMac [4k\]: please consider this
ix7 [8k\]: when is this damen game over? I have to brush me teeth and wash my face
baradlai [1k\]: g7 isn't ok
Danielsan [2k\]: yes g7 h7 dead I think
maligo [-\]: g5 
Danielsan [2k\]: and g5 doesn't seem to work either
kibz: g7 h7 g8
maligo [-\]: take it easy
baradlai [1k\]: he makes 1 eye there, but w can connect so b is simply dead there
ogre [2d?\]: sad
ix7 [8k\]: damn*
baradlai [1k\]: g7 doesnt work
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: g7 works D:
wolokom [5k\]: g 7 not really but with preberation ?
kibz: g7 h7 g8 alive
lcck [1k?\]: g7 works.pay attention to j3 
dotogo [3k?\]: b can escape in sente..
chrpa [1k\]: it will start working after move at k8
Mote [3k\]: g7 doesn't works
Bruno [1d\]: g 7 work but need ladder breaker
BigMac [4k\]: how come
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
just9x9 [-\]: g7 works, its honte for w
BigMac [4k\]: there's no ladder
laroja [3d\]: g7 is ko
Orc [2k?\]: Blk G5 is ok to escape
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: black is dead
ILuvYQ [7k\]: g7 works
Bruno [1d\]: G 7 stinks
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no escape
altrecop [1k\]: so... g7 works but Ilja haven't seen it
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: nothing works
kibz: g7 h7 g8 f8 g5 = alive
altrecop [1k\]: come on
ogre [2d?\]: its bad aji tho
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: g7 f8 g5 h6 h5 j5 g3 h4 h2 g1 j6 
Syptryn [3d\]: what ko?
Mote [3k\]: g7 f8 g5 h6 h5 j5 g3 h2 => nothing for B
Syptryn [3d\]: I see no ko
Caribe [4k\]: black may use f groups aji to attack h11 group?
wolokom [5k\]: and we see it
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: g7 h7 g8 f8 g5 h6 h5 j5 
Koukkaaja [3d\]: this move many many points
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: NOTHING
ogre [2d?\]: f8 is wrong
ix7 [8k\]: sorry, I'm not logged in!? why can't I view the EuroGoTV translation? :/
laroja [3d\]: whats the answer to g5?
ogre [2d?\]: h7 only
maligo [-\]: h6 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: g5 h6 
akula [1d\]: g7, f8, g5 atari, h6, j5 conect, j6 atari, j3 atari and b win
Syptryn [3d\]: though h7 region is sent
Syptryn [3d\]: ee
Bruno [1d\]: is this the final match?
alexanderp [?\]: game looks close with F6 group dead.
Danielsan [2k\]: bg5 w h6
kibz: dont u see the aji of j3?
alexanderp [?\]: No, it's not final match.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: akula what g7 h8
Bruno [1d\]: ty
ILuvYQ [7k\]: after j5 do k6
Orc [2k?\]: g5 h6 h5 j5 j6 blk escape
dodododo: where can i see the actual results of the 9. round?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: im telling you g7 h7
alexanderp [?\]: But it's deciding for Ilya because Artem won.
baradlai [1k\]: oups..it works..really :)
Darg [3d\]: black is just dead
dishonest [-\]: ix7 as you may see a women who really should be a man, and this view is not for children, trust me, it would break your childhood :/
Danielsan [2k\]: no b won't escape
Unefois [1d\]: black try to make a big center
globax [2d\]: yes, b dead
SaveYou [2k\]: black dead
jezork [4d\]: black lives!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: g5 h6 h5 j5 j6 h4 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: DEADDDDDDDDDD
altrecop [1k\]: lol, why do you discuss with a user called "kibz"
twinsen61: when is the last round, tomorrow?
kukulis4 [2d\]: black f5 dead
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
laroja [3d\]: vale
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: w h7 doent work T_T
kukulis4 [2d\]: but there is a lot of aji
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: g7 have future
ogre [2d?\]: if b can make a stone appear around j9 or something then g7 will work
goIngo [?\]: manyfaces still sees 68 % for white
laroja [3d\]: yo estaba equivocao :D
Orc [2k?\]: g5 h6 h5 j5 j6 j7 j3 
altrecop [1k\]: :?
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: que no joer que g7 si que funciona xD
jinkidie [19k?\]: Is our 6d still thinkin about it?
elementc [5k?\]: Did Artem win his game?
scurge [5d\]: please is there the pairing somewhere i can't find it :(
laroja [3d\]: que no
snowman [-\]: harry, don't make a fool out of yourself with those variations
altrecop [1k\]: que no rula tio
altrecop [1k\]: pruebalo
wolokom [5k\]: may be 
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: que si
laroja [3d\]: bueno, pues vale
altrecop [1k\]: lo que digas
just9x9 [-\]: manyfaces is in love with idiotbot lately
kostuek [-\]: artem won
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: ...
elementc [5k?\]: thanks
laroja [3d\]: pa que discutir
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: pk no rula?
ogre [2d?\]: gooooo artem!!!
dodododo: EuroGoTV1! where can i see the actual results of the 9. round? PLS
laroja [3d\]: si que rula, tu lo has dicho
Danielsan [2k\]: But b can make a wall around j line in sente?
crizz [2k\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-pairing-r9.txt
Unefois [1d\]: now we must imagine the board with a black walll between j6 and j10, it looks thatblck will have a big center
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: -.-
laroja [3d\]: nosotros estamos equivocaos
altrecop [1k\]: porque negro crece en h6 y sacrifica g4 si quiere
altrecop [1k\]: solo tiene un ojo tio
altrecop [1k\]: o tia
laroja [3d\]: tio
Gordan [17k\]: whr
Bruno [1d\]: tio /a sobra
Alternate [?\]: g5 seems not to work - damage
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: dime que hace blanco a g7 por favor
NorthWind [5k\]: Artem wanders up to the board, looks at B position and shakes his head
scurge [5d\]: thanks a lot crizz
Gordan [17k\]: where are they?
altrecop [1k\]: f8
lcck [1k?\]: for now black wont escape cos it only worth 14 
crizz [2k\]: np
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: g5 
Mote [3k\]: g7 f8 g5 h6 h5 j5 j6 h7 j3 h4 h2 ?
Caribe [4k\]: do these high dans and pros earn money from the tournaments and/or leagues?
altrecop [1k\]: g7 f8 g5 h6 h5 j5 ?
kostuek [-\]: m9?
altrecop [1k\]: pruebalo tio
altrecop [1k\]: abre la partida en otra sala
Danielsan [2k\]: bg7 w won't f8
Unefois [1d\]: g7 h7 works for white
lcck [1k?\]: G5 has no much different og g7
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: si
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: veniros a la española
kukulis4 [2d\]: variation I : black G7, white H7, G8, F8, G5, H6, H5, J5, and black J6 is not atari, so white defends J3
Koukkaaja [3d\]: n10
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 20 69 minutes left
laroja [3d\]: ahora no lo veo
tapir [2d\]: are not moves like j9 or j8 sente now (threatening) escaping, so enabling black to enclose territory in the center?
BALLZ [3k\]: caribe, probably more from teaching
Pepijn [2d?\]: GO Ilia! you can do it!
laroja [3d\]: whats the answer to g7?
Gordan [17k\]: ggggggg
Bruno [1d\]: Ilia rule
Mote [3k\]: @ danielsan : then g7 yose to save f2 ?
akula [1d\]: b accept to sacrifice 6 stones to cath the center... now, I think b is in a winning position
lcck [1k?\]: "kim" like a korean name?
chrpa [1k\]: the game is so even
laroja [3d\]: whats the answer to g7?
kudou [-\]: g7 f8 g5 h6 h5 j5 j6 h7 h4 j3 g3 j2 
Limelight [1d\]: o11
BALLZ [3k\]: kim is common korean lastname
Daoloth [-\]: like kim jong-il
jinkidie [19k?\]: and kim chi
Danielsan [2k\]: I think b would play g5 to get j6,7,8,9,10 in sente
jinkidie [19k?\]: oh wait that'scabbage sry
kukulis4 [2d\]: variation II : black G5, white H6, H5, J5, J6, White J3, black G7, H7, G8, F8
akula [1d\]: the big question is what w can do....????
BigMac [4k\]: oh thank god
Unefois [1d\]: soon the time to kim to play in j7 area t delet ajiand not to let black wall the center
chrpa [1k\]: yes, i agree danielsan
goIngo [?\]: many faces expects n10 for white
GoIsBoring [3d\]: g7 f8 g5 h6 h5 j5 j6 h7 j3 h4 h2 win!
jinkidie [19k?\]: kukulis, u dont like g5 h5?
chrpa [1k\]: w j6 b r6
NorthWind [5k\]: L11
Caribe [4k\]: how about this: g7 h7...g8 f8...h8 j7...k8 k7...g10!
kukulis4 [2d\]: jinkidie: after G5, H5 black die
jinkidie [19k?\]: exactly
akula [1d\]: w Q6
kukulis4 [2d\]: so I dont like to play a move with black after which black die
chrpa [1k\]: oo q6 !!
kukulis4 [2d\]: for white I like it of course ;)
Maki1 [2k\]: I played a whole game while they made 1 move...
lcck [1k?\]: G7 or G5 works But when black g5 white may j5 instead of H6
kukulis4 [2d\]: G7, G5 doesnt work
ix7 [8k\]: I don't understand why G5 doesn't work: bg5 h5 g7 h6 f8 --> snapback for w
jinkidie [19k?\]: kukulis, then why do you have it as b g5 h6? Why not have white play the best move?
jinkidie [19k?\]: oh wait a sec...
Blitzcore [3d\]: g5 h6
jinkidie [19k?\]: I think i see what you were doing there
kukulis4 [2d\]: yeah
ix7 [8k\]: bg5 h5 g7 f8 h6 --> can escape
BigMac [4k\]: p10 is the coolest move now
]
;W[mj]C[BigMac [4k\]: please
BigMac [4k\]: g5 h6 
kukulis4 [2d\]: and if black first move G7, then white H7
ogre [2d?\]: g7 works if there is a b stone on k8. maybe b can fight his way to there
kukulis4 [2d\]: yeah, this is aji
ogre [2d?\]: oh i mean j8
ogre [2d?\]: but anyway
Bruno [1d\]: GOOD LUCK FOR ILYA
Bruno [1d\]: got to go
ix7 [8k\]: byebye
]
;B[oi]
;W[lk]C[ix7 [8k\]: and pls don't shout ^^
Danielsan [2k\]: would a move like w j7 be too slow?
dotogo [3k?\]: b can escape, and right now he's just preparing some stones to kill g11 after he separates w's two groups ^_^
alexanderp [?\]: looks like no center for b
ogre [2d?\]: i dont mind him shouting if he is shouting for ILIA!
Koukkaaja [3d\]: oh, they played my seq,that's rare
lcck [1k?\]: g7 can work but not the right time cos white wont h6 but j5 so escaping will influnce other place
ogre [2d?\]: b must be aiming for j8 point
hirakawade [2d?\]: SE = +37.5  white
jinkidie [19k?\]: so. it appears there are those among us that still expect the f6 group to live....
goIngo [?\]: manyfaces 68 % for white
kostuek [-\]: n8
Blitzcore [3d\]: w s6 sente now?
NorthWind [5k\]: n8 nice kyu move
jinkidie [19k?\]: SE assumes f6 is dead, I presume
kostuek [-\]: yeah
Unefois [1d\]: time to play around k8
Pepijn [2d?\]: haha funny SE
Draxt [3k\]: p12 
Pepijn [2d?\]: everyone sees it's alife
fittoson [?\]: g7f8g5h6h5j5j6h7j3 (h4h2) ?
goIngo [?\]: p12 expected by mf
jinkidie [19k?\]: SE seems to be giving all the unclaimed space to white...
wolokom [5k\]: was ist das grüne Getränk im Plakat?
lcck [1k?\]: not h6 ,j5
Unefois [1d\]: g7 h7 fittoson
Danielsan [2k\]: k8 would be a nice threat
ptitlou [2d\]: p12 and then l12 ?
ogre [2d?\]: k8 wont make g7 work
chrpa [1k\]: the tea wolokom
wolokom [5k\]: what is the green drink?
goIngo [?\]: danielsan, i answered you
Danielsan [2k\]: But isn't it better to play a sente sequence to get a wall instead?
Danielsan [2k\]: Thank you goingo, I just did :)
ogre [2d?\]: the goban is hard on ilia
goIngo [?\]: :-)
BALLZ [3k\]: make love, not walls
]
;B[ml]C[ogre [2d?\]: not to mention mr kim here
Blitzcore [3d\]: @wolokom: http://www.amazing-green-tea.com/zhuyeqing-tea-bamboo-green-tea-single-buds-arent-always-best.html
kukulis4 [2d\]: :D
kostuek [-\]: b is kyu :p
NorthWind [5k\]: yessss ! 
goIngo [?\]: manyfaces now at 72 % for white
kukulis4 [2d\]: BALLZ: lol
NorthWind [5k\]: oh no, I have dan tendencies 
jinkidie [19k?\]: I got some green tea. It tastes like silage.
Doby [6k\]: can w enter the lower right?  say, starting with s4?
BigMac [4k\]: F6 IS DEAD PLEASE DONT SAY IT'S ALIVE
wolokom [5k\]: thank you
just9x9 [-\]: b wants r11 or what?
Daoloth [-\]: i have to admit i dislike bs style
dishonest [-\]: if it was dead it wouldnt be there!
]
;W[mk]C[dishonest [-\]: its alive as long its on the board
chrpa [1k\]: the tea and company that sponsors the tournameent, my quess
Danielsan [2k\]: b k8 and it is forcing, but isn't that worse than playing a sequence to get a bigger wall?
dishonest [-\]: it still can take importand role in further game
kukulis4 [2d\]: w+
GoIsBoring [3d\]: b goes for ultrakill
akula [1d\]: when the sente is over, I think b will play at g7
ogre [2d?\]: b should try to eat this w anyway he can
jinkidie [19k?\]: Has anyone tried the tea the sponsors sells?
kostuek [-\]: n11
ogre [2d?\]: the fight gives chances to activate g7
hirakawade [2d?\]: G7 is effective ?
ogre [2d?\]: could become that way
akula [1d\]: g 7 
chrpa [1k\]: k9 activates?
ogre [2d?\]: no
ogre [2d?\]: j7 j8 h9  area activates
eatramen [22k\]: almost 7am o_o
ogre [2d?\]: so small area :(
Unefois [1d\]: black must protct q8 against q8 now?
alkar: G7,h7
vannab [3k\]: it seems b wants complications all the time but the flow his stones is wrong
Blitzcore [3d\]: w s6 needed for q8?
]
;B[oh]
;W[pg]C[just9x9 [-\]: Unefois [1d\]: black must protct q8 against q8 now? <----- great moments in kibitz ;)
Doby [6k\]: i hate it when my flow is wrong
Unefois [1d\]: ^^
Caribe [4k\]: k9
akula [1d\]: ilia is leading this game
]
;B[qn]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: leading, but loosing by points
chrpa [1k\]: wow, black got r6
dotogo [3k?\]: ilia is leading us to the great future
Doby [6k\]: oops.  there went my idea of w s4
BALLZ [3k\]: ilia is present
goIngo [?\]: manyfaces: 73 % for white
ptitlou [2d\]: r6 seems very honte now
jasonli [17k\]: jkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkkkjkjkjkjkjkjkfuckgfhgdhgfhdgh
hirakawade [2d?\]: yes
jasonli [17k\]: e
Unefois [1d\]: r6 protect against q8, who take the p11 stones
jasonli [17k\]: w
dishonest [-\]: this would work jasonli
jasonli [17k\]: w
jinkidie [19k?\]: just cuz we're ddks doesn't mean we have to drool
gregorius: akula - if w take center he won easy
jasonli [17k\]: w
bolbi [-\]: jasonli : enough
Danielsan [2k\]: j7 :p
Korea4K [2d\]: R8 sente
Dexihno [6k\]: who won on board 2 please ?
just9x9 [-\]: omg a writing tourette
kukulis4 [2d\]: white may choose between big yose moves like p2 and s6 or surround center with J7
LovroKlc [2k\]: is Catalins game over?
ix7 [8k\]: just why is everybody for Ilya?
goIngo [?\]: artem won
Dexihno [6k\]: yes! thanks
Maki1 [2k\]: Im for Kim!
NorthWind [5k\]: r6 allows r8 if W q8
jinkidie [19k?\]: very unusual game too
dishonest [-\]: there it comes. shy-wag
LovroKlc [2k\]: eurogotv
Syptryn [3d\]: girls onlyget guy support if they look cute =\\
headache [2d\]: cuz there are soo many strong Koreans, only a few strong European
Step [4d\]: j7 
BALLZ [3k\]: because noone wants to realize a random korean can beat europe's top
kukulis4 [2d\]: s6/s7 double sente
LovroKlc [2k\]: can you tell me the result of Taranu - Mitic game?
wolokom [5k\]: honte not too small?
Danielsan [2k\]: I like j7 it removes a lot of aji as well
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: I don't know the result
wolokom [5k\]: s 6
StefanRadu [1k\]: ARTEM WON
Maki1 [2k\]: K8
kukulis4 [2d\]: artem lost ;)
StefanRadu [1k\]: artem won by resignation
kukulis4 [2d\]: lol
kavias [3k\]: artem won
goIngo [?\]: mf sees k13 for white
rumster: ali+resign
Daoloth [-\]: artem stong
NorthWind [5k\]: wicked dan rumour :)
markpi: anybody knows how board3 stands?
jookeer3 [3d\]: what's the result of board 4?
]
;W[ni]C[onadare [2k\]: Kyeongnang kang   she won this game?
just9x9 [-\]: it doesnt stand it lies flat
]
;B[oj]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Kang won
gregorius: K8?
RyuuGan [1d\]: k13 j14 j8 ?
Maki1 [2k\]: of course kang won!
Koukkaaja [3d\]: how can you 9x9 know without the stream?
ix7 [8k\]: lo, just9x9
onadare [2k\]: thx eurogotv1
ptitlou [2d\]: k8
wolokom [5k\]: b ahead ?
just9x9 [-\]: good point koukkaaja
jookeer3 [3d\]: board 4  still playing ?
goIngo [?\]: manyfaces: 73 % for white
]
;W[if]
;B[jg]C[kukulis4 [2d\]: white has losts of sente moves like B15
]
;W[kh]C[Dexihno [6k\]: How is Ondrej Silt please ?
]
;B[jf]C[Syptryn [3d\]: eh
jinkidie [19k?\]: ali had such a courageous idea, and artem just waited, then crushed it like a dixie cup
Syptryn [3d\]: win't the two stones K11 bigger?
sushisan [4d\]: this combination winning for w
jasonli [17k\]: vcvcvretert
jasonli [17k\]: warew
jasonli [17k\]: terates
jasonli [17k\]: tert
jasonli [17k\]: estser
jasonli [17k\]: tew
jasonli [17k\]: twertetrt
jasonli [17k\]: ewrt
jasonli [17k\]: wert
jasonli [17k\]: wer
jasonli [17k\]: twer
jasonli [17k\]: t
jasonli [17k\]: ewt
goIngo [?\]: manyfaces: 76 % for white now
alexanderp [?\]: :(
Maki1 [2k\]: wow
dishonest [-\]: poor jasonli
alexanderp [?\]: Was rooting for Ilia.
]
;W[jl]C[jinkidie [19k?\]: guess wat jason....
dishonest [-\]: :(
ix7 [8k\]: /ignore jasonli
Caribe [4k\]: goingo; manyfaces has many faces...not reliable
Maki1 [2k\]: there is K8!
Syptryn [3d\]: gg?
ogre [2d?\]: j8 now?
Trillian [1d?\]: what happens on black f8?
Caribe [4k\]: (very bad)
Daoloth [-\]: what does idiotbot say?
Step [4d\]: g5 
NorthWind [5k\]: jason fell off his chair onto the keyboard
scurge [5d\]: the game is very bad for black now :/
erikk [-\]: idiotbot : 451% for black
Trillian [1d?\]: black g7 i mean
just9x9 [-\]: idiotbot: 76% for manyfaces
Syptryn [3d\]: black gas sente at J-7
IceSpectre [4k\]: j7 ?
wolfe [2k\]: G7 still works, doesn't it?
jinkidie [19k?\]: asckshully that was jason's cat
dotogo [3k?\]: oh crap. my hd is making funny noises. i hope my pc wont shut down till the game is over
NorthWind [5k\]: lol jin
markpi: eurogotv how much have they left?
deft [4d\]: G7 doesn't work, W plays H7 in response
just9x9 [-\]: i strongly doubt the cat theory
wolokom [5k\]: b needs a nice honte but where?
Draxt [3k\]: p2 ?
kostuek [-\]: your hd just have some fun maybe
sushisan [4d\]: wasn't b a little fast in playing K13?
]
;B[go]C[Trillian [1d?\]: thx deft
just9x9 [-\]: omg
dotogo [3k?\]: ha!
chrpa [1k\]: hoho
alexanderp [?\]: boom
IceSpectre [4k\]: haha 
memur74 [5k\]: yaa
Maki1 [2k\]: ZOMG
mi1 [1k\]: =)
]
;W[hn]
;B[ho]C[Syptryn [3d\]: no c7 first?
]
;W[io]C[Step [4d\]: yeah!
jinkidie [19k?\]: ah k8. now that's right in the centre of things. Maybe he played it just to see everyone go nuts. ...  deja vu anyone?
dishonest [-\]: he told you!
]
;B[in]C[dishonest [-\]: its dead
]
;W[hp]C[dishonest [-\]: 19k said that!
goIngo [?\]: manyfaces; 69 % for white
Gordan [17k\]: meni tu gleda 30 prijatelja
surmezur [6d\]: f8
chrpa [1k\]: no center for wqhite
wildaxt [5k\]: j7 now?
]
;B[gm]
;W[hm]C[just9x9 [-\]: resign sequence?
]
;B[gl]C[cherisse [1k\]: what is happening
wildaxt [5k\]: ahh
twinsen61: ???
Syptryn [3d\]: what
]
(;W[hl]C[Draxt [3k\]: F15 is just aji
Maki1 [2k\]: !
chrpa [1k\]: ho
Pinguschaf [7d?\]: ?
deft [4d\]: huh???
jinkidie [19k?\]: everything we dreamed of is happening
mi1 [1k\]: ;o
laroja [3d\]: ??
Jordus [8k?\]: huh
eatramen [22k\]: ilia lost?
Maki1 [2k\]: area counting makes perfect sense. Counting stones that occupy space seems absurd
CatalinKGS [5k?\]: oooops
CatalinKGS [5k?\]: they love the game so much, they decided to play t again :)
Pische [-\]: lol
ogre [2d?\]: what is this 
])
(;W[fl]C[Darg [3d\]: lol
Pinguschaf [7d?\]: lol
sushisan [4d\]: arf
ogre [2d?\]: bad for w
]
;B[im]
;W[hl]
;B[il]C[ogre [2d?\]: he just push straight
]
;W[gk]C[Maki1 [2k\]: lol
chrpa [1k\]: :)
just9x9 [-\]: harry is just figurering out the cut
]
;B[ik]C[StefanRadu [1k\]: hahahahahaahhahahahaha
kyyni [3k\]: :D
Jordus [8k?\]: oh
ix7 [8k\]: oO
sushisan [4d\]: eurogo, gotta work on your reflexes
Maki1 [2k\]: b win now
]
;W[jk]C[NorthWind [5k\]: oh, all that to build a wall. nice
happydog [7k\]: Nice practical joke. :)
Draxt [3k\]: l11 
dishonest [-\]: winning wag started :D
StefanRadu [1k\]: harry making a joke^^
alexanderp [?\]: ох намутил
RyuuGan [1d\]: что он намутил?
]
;B[ij]C[cherisse [1k\]: O_O
Draxt [3k\]: m11 
Darg [3d\]: w should have played j8 instead of k8 
alexanderp [?\]: да вроде нормально всё
RyuuGan [1d\]: это в его репертуаре :) так играть :)
alexanderp [?\]: но всё это такая авантюра:)
deft [4d\]: O13 to connect back looks like enough
alexanderp [?\]: да
goIngo [?\]: 71 % white
erikk [-\]: Idiotbot thinks H14 is sente for w
alexanderp [?\]: я думал, он предпочтет выжить f6, а не строить стенку из-за белых m9
eatramen [22k\]: lol
Gordan [17k\]: g3
ix7 [8k\]: now what?
N4KED [1d\]: there is a ko h15
ogre [2d?\]: o13?
memur74 [5k\]: p13
ix7 [8k\]: is this sequens really been played?
Shibui [2d?\]: Please speak the Queen's English
kostuek [-\]: o7
]
;W[ng]C[Gordan [17k\]: than h2
RyuuGan [1d\]: ну я даже не знаб... f6 было не реально выжить
just9x9 [-\]: nice call deft
NorthWind [5k\]: n11
Draxt [3k\]: l10 
StefanRadu [1k\]: i think w wins.
mi1 [1k\]: yose
RyuuGan [1d\]: а так центр раздолблен, а то  белого там территория была
cherisse [1k\]: T_T
AlexGreen [9k\]: hmm
kazak [1k\]: p2
wolokom [5k\]: n 11
jinkidie [19k?\]: good heavens we are looking at a fantasy
cherisse [1k\]: whyyy
deft [4d\]: N11 bad move
Draxt [3k\]: l10 l9 m11 ?
Stoneflow [-\]: b+10
cherisse [1k\]: game still close. ilya can win in yose!
heywardbey [2d\]: does anyone here play fantasy football
goIngo [?\]: 72 % for white
Step [4d\]: o8 
wolokom [5k\]: ok
uhoh [1k\]: m11
alexanderp [?\]: At least we will know MF skills after this game.
memur74 [5k\]: b2.5
heywardbey [2d\]: okay noobs fine.
flashback [7d\]: very close
wolokom [5k\]: sorry why
deft [4d\]: play elsewhere
Maki1 [2k\]: how can w win after that?
zakatan [6k\]: which fantasy football?
]
;B[ki]
;W[lh]C[heywardbey [2d\]: yahoo sports fantasy football
flashback [7d\]: just yose will decide
cherisse [1k\]: w komi T_T
jinkidie [19k?\]: um will the real move 140 please stand up?
ix7 [8k\]: N11
heywardbey [2d\]: josh cribbs baby
Danielsan [2k\]: I think w looks a little bit ahead
flashback [7d\]: didnt forget komi :)
]
;B[np]
;W[mq]C[flashback [7d\]: why always people tell me?
deft [4d\]: I'm pretty sure W is ahead
StefanRadu [1k\]: p2 huge now
Syptryn [3d\]: so mid was really larger than F5?
flashback [7d\]: me not
cherisse [1k\]: no! we want roln111 to win!
flashback [7d\]: how many for w u counted?
mi1 [1k\]: b15 p2 b9.. ?
Blitzcore [3d\]: b15 and s6 big 
dishonest [-\]: black is gonna win , i have seen his wag of victory!
alexanderp [?\]: at least it's b turn
]
;B[or]
;W[rn]C[Blitzcore [3d\]: w s6
]
;B[ro]
;W[be]
;B[hf]
;W[bf]C[N4KED [1d\]: what
Syptryn [3d\]: errr
wolokom [5k\]: now s6 honte!
Maki1 [2k\]: zomg!!!!!!!!!!!
]
;B[bg]C[uhoh [1k\]: uhh
]
;W[gg]
;B[ge]
;W[fe]C[eatramen [22k\]: the game is rigged!
]
;B[ff]
;W[he]
;B[fg]C[flashback [7d\]: they have exqctly same
cherisse [1k\]: huhu
RyuuGan [1d\]: how much time left?
kazak [1k\]: t5
StefanRadu [1k\]: p87
flashback [7d\]: every point important now
StefanRadu [1k\]: p8 i mean
Blitzcore [3d\]: j14 or not j14?
NorthWind [5k\]: this Ilya guy is pretty good huh
Syptryn [3d\]: B8 huge
N4KED [1d\]: h15 would have been better then b14
vingol [1d\]: or ko
Daoloth [-\]: t5 
Danielsan [2k\]: Isn't t5 important?
dishonest [-\]: does r17 still work? ;)
flashback [7d\]: t5
Fukurokuji [2k\]: m15
laroja [3d\]: t5
gabigo [4k?\]: s7 
kazak [1k\]: thx flashback
]
;W[ib]
;B[ic]
;W[hb]
;B[gc]
;W[ga]C[dishonest [-\]: yeah he is wagging, it must be a sign of victory!!
uhoh [1k\]: p8
RyuuGan [1d\]: g15 
Syptryn [3d\]: bad move by white, now G-15 sente for black
BALLZ [3k\]: r8 
]
;B[jb]C[IceSpectre [4k\]: so bad 
]
;W[nl]C[flashback [7d\]: w is right
N4KED [1d\]: g15 would be terrible
IceSpectre [4k\]: g15 
Gordan [17k\]: b wining?
N4KED [1d\]: g15 is super gote
flashback [7d\]: also this
sushisan [4d\]: yeah, b whining
deft [4d\]: I counted W is 2-3 points ahead
NorthWind [5k\]: b9
vingol [1d\]: g16
sameasyou [2d\]: b9 also sente-ish for w
flashback [7d\]: but may be t6 now
vingol [1d\]: g15
goIngo [?\]: manyfaces: white around 65 %
]
;B[ge]C[sushisan [4d\]: quite sentible
]
;W[gf]C[wolokom [5k\]: l7?
Danielsan [2k\]: if b t6 w better tenuki imo
Blitzcore [3d\]: t6
BALLZ [3k\]: if b played normally instead of getting captured in bottom left he would be better off?
Syptryn [3d\]: t6 not sente
IceSpectre [4k\]: n11 ?
uhoh [1k\]: n7
Stoneflow [-\]: why are you talking about percent?
Gordan [17k\]: n11
Blitzcore [3d\]: right t6 bad
]
;B[ds]C[RyuuGan [1d\]: r8 s7 o7 ?
]
;W[es]C[Syptryn [3d\]: b9 
deft [4d\]: T6 is pretty big since T5 is W sente
goIngo [?\]: it is bot's opinion
dawid963 [1k\]: t6 soon
sameasyou [2d\]: because he has no brains of his and he must use ManyFaces 
ghjgh: m15 
Syptryn [3d\]: still 4 points reverse sente
Syptryn [3d\]: there's bigger
cherisse [1k\]: wah! SE says W+11.5 (how horrible)
goIngo [?\]: samsu: I have joined brains with MF
Blitzcore [3d\]: m15?
Syptryn [3d\]: b9 
Blitzcore [3d\]: b9?
deft [4d\]: B9 is big
sameasyou [2d\]: yup...and his part in that business is like 90%
alexanderp [?\]: as always with Ilya game is so intense..high voltage
vingol [1d\]: no
goIngo [?\]: not exactly
Syptryn [3d\]: e15 double sente
dishonest [-\]: im afraid endgame is not good for black
Syptryn [3d\]: for 2 pts
dawid963 [1k\]: more than 4 points reverse
sameasyou [2d\]: u've been saying the same thing for the last 2 hours...quite boring
Syptryn [3d\]: black should play it
Syptryn [3d\]: oh wait, not double sente anymore
wolokom [5k\]: d 9? b9?
Syptryn [3d\]: just sente
uhoh [1k\]: d9
Syptryn [3d\]: nm
ogre [2d?\]: goingo detracts from my enjoyment of this game 
Stoneflow [-\]: hmm b+5
jinkidie [19k?\]: hm I tink SE has it more or less right fer a change
deft [4d\]: there seems to be some aji with the Q6 and O5 cuts
]
;B[nr]C[Blitzcore [3d\]: o2
Blitzcore [3d\]: damm
]
;W[mr]C[wolokom [5k\]: nice!!!!!!!!!
Syptryn [3d\]: wha
sameasyou [2d\]: if u're trying to seel MF then u're doing a louzy job...u're extremely annoying and it makes us, the potential clients, extremely annoyed with MF
cherisse [1k\]: n1
BALLZ [3k\]: i'm interested in mf
NorthWind [5k\]: mf sucks
goIngo [?\]: I am not related to mf company
BALLZ [3k\]: keep going
Syptryn [3d\]: b9 
BALLZ [3k\]: !
rumster: t6
Shuei [-\]: K6 doesn't work for w ?
Goliamus [6k\]: what is mf ? pls
alexanderp [?\]: n1 is bad after exchange and gote
cherisse [1k\]: i take it back
soulangel [3d\]: b9
sameasyou [2d\]: then get a brain and start playing Go with it...stop telling me what a bot thinks...I'm not interested
ix7 [8k\]: mf = many faces, a go bot.
cherisse [1k\]: yeah b9 seems good
gabigo [4k?\]: o15 
Goliamus [6k\]: thx
Syptryn [3d\]: black b9
GoIsBoring [3d\]: m15 
sushisan [4d\]: mf = mother's finest
goIngo [?\]: samesu ignore me
Syptryn [3d\]: and should be okay
chrpa [1k\]: i am interested
Blitzcore [3d\]: @flashback: how comes you are not there?
uhoh [1k\]: before b 9 d 9
hexon [3k\]: I don't understan why people are so annoyed to read the evaluations of ManyFacesofGo... perhaps he is just interested in the development of the product, and curious about the accuracy of the assessment
N4KED [1d\]: I predict either r9 capture or n5 capture
kostuek [-\]: bot fear
hexon [3k\]: this kind of posting of computer analysis is extremely common when watching internet broadcast of GM games in chess
alexanderp [?\]: it's absolutely ok to cite MF's opinion once in a 10-20 moves.
cherisse [1k\]: hmm i have to see how stressed illia is... now where is the linky
NorthWind [5k\]: yeah hex, you don't know how that ruined online chess
ogre [2d?\]: i have never used the ignore function on kgs
banbanban [2k\]: just censor him
]
;B[bk]C[akula [1d\]: j19 
]
;W[ck]C[vannab [3k\]: nobody is forced to read mf evaluations..
andreiraz [5k\]: the time for bought harry pls
furr [?\]: hexon: those percentages are not related to the actual game at all...it has been 90%+ for w for ages
dishonest [-\]: predict either black or wite is gonna win this game^^
Syptryn [3d\]: d9 
topos [4k\]: n2 is mistake
]
;B[cl]C[komoto2: n2 not a mistake
vannab [3k\]: and i read tme :)
altrecop [1k\]: why not t5?
memur74 [5k\]: byo yomi ?
dawid963 [1k\]: black + :)
vannab [3k\]: *them
hexon [3k\]: northwind, I'm very aware, and I don't think it ruined online chess... on most servers, you can mute (C) users anyway
StefanRadu [1k\]: n2 5 poins in gote.
sameasyou [2d\]: I read about the Man vs Machine competition at the EGC...and I am a big admirer of the guys that are working to build these programs...but I don't need somebody to tell me every 2 minutes some irrelevant percentage one of these bots calculates
sushisan [4d\]: many faeces of go
ogre [2d?\]: in the future every kyu player is going to be spamming their robo evaluations 
]
;W[nn]C[N4KED [1d\]: here we go
alexanderp [?\]: what's the best chess server around here now? freechess.org?
Maki1 [2k\]: yup
]
;B[no]C[wolokom [5k\]: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cherisse [1k\]: oh god T_T
NorthWind [5k\]: mute ...lol every user has one in chess
]
;W[sn]C[gregorius: w is ahead 3-4 pts
Shuei [-\]: P7
uhoh [1k\]: ??
Maki1 [2k\]: b must take care of K8
Maki1 [2k\]: K6
]
;B[so]C[Lilinette [-\]: black looks like he is sick or cold
]
;W[rm]
;B[on]
;W[nm]C[Lilinette [-\]: (in the live broadcast..)
alexanderp [?\]: he is
Danielsan [2k\]: why not t5?
cherisse [1k\]: yeah illia was like sickly throughout this tournament
sushisan [4d\]: mmm. is T6 all that smart?
StefanRadu [1k\]: w ahead by a little
hexon [3k\]: alexanderp it's been awhile since my serious chess days, I always played on internet chess club (ICC) but now also playchess.com which is run by chessbase is pretty good
altrecop [1k\]: k6 :?
RyuuGan [1d\]: l7 ?
Lilinette [-\]: Explains why he keeps shaking so much...
wolokom [5k\]: m 15?
nayk [3k\]: попал
]
;B[om]C[Blitzcore [3d\]: t5 has problems with s10 later
gregorius: finito?
erikk [-\]: t5 t4 t6 s7 t7 r8 s7 s10 
twinsen61: it's amazing he can play at this level while sick
alexanderp [?\]: thanks, hexon. 
Unefois [1d\]: perhaps t6 was to avoid s10 aji
RyuuGan [1d\]: l7 now
sameasyou [2d\]: L7?
]
;W[km]C[Syptryn [3d\]: o15 rather big soon
Syptryn [3d\]: l6 
lamalamax: m15 big
NorthWind [5k\]: I love those talking clocks
hexon [3k\]: FICS has been a second class citizen for 10 years
Syptryn [3d\]: o15 o14 m15 
]
;B[kn]
;W[jm]C[Blitzcore [3d\]: how are the times?
Danielsan [2k\]: what then is b's reply to t5?
Blitzcore [3d\]: t4
sushisan [4d\]: b got his due for playing a boring, conservative game
cherisse [1k\]: deng...
Joakim [13k\]: k6
Joakim [13k\]: oc
alexanderp [?\]: it wasn't boring at all
]
;B[jn]C[danigabi [5d\]: EurogoTV: do you know anything about ALI Jabarin?
]
;W[le]C[N4KED [1d\]: now I understand t6
alexanderp [?\]: Ali lost.
ogre [2d?\]: it was pretty peaceful early on
]
;B[nh]C[Lilinette [-\]: Ali jabarin lost really badly...
danigabi [5d\]: ow..pity
alexanderp [?\]: Ilya's games can't be peaceful for a long time:)
Lilinette [-\]: Was a good game though
ogre [2d?\]: i didnt like his r12 move...
StefanRadu [1k\]: artem was better in middle game
sameasyou [2d\]: m
sameasyou [2d\]: m8
Danielsan [2k\]: then w t5 is not a problem
mi1 [1k\]: danigabi you can watch his game from EuroGoTv2
Danielsan [2k\]: I think w t5, b s10 then b s7
jezork [4d\]: so who is winning overall? still roln?
Danielsan [2k\]: T7*
StefanRadu [1k\]: artem wins
myongstu [4d\]: w is leading
StefanRadu [1k\]: roln second
nanok [?\]: danigabi: i have it saved, if you want it
andreiraz [5k\]: time pls
jinkidie [19k?\]: hi dani did u just log in?
Lilinette [-\]: White has the lead right now
jezork [4d\]: winning overall in the tournament.
cherisse [1k\]: nyah w is winning T_T
ogre [2d?\]: artem is in the lead?
akula [1d\]: b +0,5
StefanRadu [1k\]: yep. artem .. roln ...kang
ogre [2d?\]: unless roln pulls this off
Lilinette [-\]: Artem already won his
]
;W[mi]C[ogre [2d?\]: i mean ilia.
dishonest [-\]: b +42,5
nayk [3k\]: су охренел
]
;B[ee]
;W[ed]C[kostuek [-\]: 42 is big win
gabigo [4k?\]: d9
IceSpectre [4k\]: j19 
RyuuGan [1d\]: cy?
nayk [3k\]: се
alexanderp [?\]: SE
RyuuGan [1d\]: a...
]
;B[ia]
;W[ld]
;B[lc]C[Deleted [3k\]: can b cut at n12?
danigabi [5d\]: its sad
danigabi [5d\]: ali can beat artem
danigabi [5d\]: but he doesnt want to
kyzma84 [3k\]: w+4,5
sameasyou [2d\]: very generous of him
]
;W[oe]C[goIngo [?\]: 80 % for white now
]
;B[od]C[cherisse [1k\]: i hope b sneezes and distracts w
jinkidie [19k?\]: how very odd - my SE says w ahead by 20+
mi1 [1k\]: to be honest artem is stronger then ali
]
;W[co]
;B[bo]C[cherisse [1k\]: y not danigabi?
alexanderp [?\]: looks like b lost
Lilinette [-\]: Honestly that is sad to say danigabi
Syptryn [3d\]: yup
alexanderp [?\]: жаль
]
;W[bj]C[Syptryn [3d\]: back lose :(
]
;B[ak]C[danigabi [5d\]: sad to say?
Lilinette [-\]: Ali is weaker then artem that is a fact though i truthfully like Ali more then artem
]
;W[mn]C[BALLZ [3k\]: that he doesn't want though is sad
BALLZ [3k\]: to*
danigabi [5d\]: yes, artem is stronger but that is irrelevant
cherisse [1k\]: what is sad is not seeing a rematch between artem and illia!
Maki1 [2k\]: I cant believe a random Korean off the street can beat the mighty Roln...
Lilinette [-\]: But just because I like Ali more then artem I will not go around saying this player looses on purpose to the other
Syptryn [3d\]: so looks like artem takes lead?
IceSpectre [4k\]: d9 
NorthWind [5k\]: hmm, Artem sole leader after this
alexanderp [?\]: ну тут уж ничего не поделаешь, у Артёма одно поражение, у Ильи будет два
]
;B[ne]C[Syptryn [3d\]: correction, random Korean *girl* off the street
alexanderp [?\]: no chances after this crucial game...only if Artem loses his last round
ogre [2d?\]: chae lim kim is obviously very strong. he has a good tournament score also
danigabi [5d\]: you need to read more carefully lilinette
Maki1 [2k\]: w is a guy
Draxt [3k\]: nice one
Syptryn [3d\]: she
cherisse [1k\]: this korean just showed up on round 9, talk about anime season ender
nanok [?\]: randomly a former insei, and randomly 7d..
N4KED [1d\]: not sente
mi1 [1k\]: ну ещё 1 тур остается 
Lilinette [-\]: You said Ali can beat artem but does not want to
]
;W[nf]C[danigabi [5d\]: yes
RyuuGan [1d\]: m14 
Lilinette [-\]: If that was so then that would be purposely loosing to artem...
kostuek [-\]: why not
danigabi [5d\]: no
Draxt [3k\]: l15 
alexanderp [?\]: какова вероятность, что Артём проиграет в последнем туре?
ogre [2d?\]: there is another player named kim who is female. i understand eurogo clarified to us that chae lim kim is a guy
Lilinette [-\]: In english yes danigabi
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: artem is watching the game
mi1 [1k\]: смотря на кого попадёт
alexanderp [?\]: well...Artem played with Chae-lim Kim?:)
]
;B[lf]C[svrcd [?\]: 50% )
]
;W[lg]C[Blitzcore [3d\]: of course he is - is he also smiling?
akula [1d\]: b+2,5
NorthWind [5k\]: and smiling I bet
memur74 [5k\]: what about the last round
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no
cherisse [1k\]: i think there was a kim vs kang before, maybe it was her?
Blitzcore [3d\]: not yet you mean?
Syptryn [3d\]: l14 n14 m6 m7 
]
;B[kf]
;W[mf]
;B[oq]C[Syptryn [3d\]: huh
danigabi [5d\]:  If you dont understand the point, you are just not understanding the situation
dishonest [-\]: isnt h19 a sente?
sameasyou [2d\]: danigabi u make no sense
BALLZ [3k\]: noone understands you danigabi
Draxt [3k\]: d9 
Lilinette [-\]: That is what im saying he makes absolutly no sense
kukulis4 [2d\]: H19 is 0 points sente
Lilinette [-\]: but I dont think danigabi real language is english so maybe he is just mistyping
sushisan [4d\]: oh. but does he make any sense?
hirakawade [2d?\]: D9= dame
dishonest [-\]: danigabi go and get sober please
]
;W[ke]C[cherisse [1k\]: please do not fight, one of the players right now is getting a broken heart sooner or later...
sameasyou [2d\]: yup
fairgo1 [2d\]: lol
laroja [3d\]: danigabi [5d\]: its sad danigabi [5d\]: ali can beat artem danigabi [5d\]: but he doesnt want to
Veivi [4d\]: its true... the amount of sense is on short supply
dfgdf: whitwe wins by komi
wolokom [5k\]: surrender pure b
Caribe [4k\]: can w live at r17?
kukulis4 [2d\]: c15 1pt
topos [4k\]: p3 is mistake
]
;B[ha]
;W[fa]C[RyuuGan [1d\]: r17 will be dead
dfgdf: p3 is not a mistake
N4KED [1d\]: timsuji
Syptryn [3d\]: c15 
mi1 [1k\]: d9 
wolokom [5k\]: no
laroja [3d\]: w+1.5?
GoIsBoring [3d\]: a15 
sameasyou [2d\]: a15?
Blitzcore [3d\]: maybe timesulji - but was called also :)
NorthWind [5k\]: B seemed so good before the g7 event
Syptryn [3d\]: h10 \\
Lilinette [-\]: they are getting so close to loosing on time
kukulis4 [2d\]: o1 2pt
dmf [14k\]: g13?
N4KED [1d\]: a15 1 point in gote
]
;B[af]
;W[ce]C[wolokom [5k\]: oh !
Syptryn [3d\]: n1  sente
chestr [3k\]: a15 
Blitzcore [3d\]: yes thats the point of p3
Draxt [3k\]: i don't anderstand
BALLZ [3k\]: d9 
Syptryn [3d\]: oh nm
mi1 [1k\]: why not d9 ?(
Danielsan [2k\]: this is why w didn't play e15
Maki1 [2k\]: its weird, it seemed like b was in the drivers seat the first part of the game but he loses anyway...
ogre [2d?\]: d9 no points
cherisse [1k\]: :(
BALLZ [3k\]: oh, true
kukulis4 [2d\]: n1 gote, because if black K2, white j2 and there will be eye against no eye
Syptryn [3d\]: a15 a15 g13 
ogre [2d?\]: w go d10 no matter what
Draxt [3k\]: but why C15?
danigabi [5d\]: now artem is leading?
]
;B[ae]
;W[ad]C[Fukurokuji [2k\]: when is the next round?
sameasyou [2d\]: artem already won :)
deft [4d\]: W+3.5
danigabi [5d\]: already won the egc??
FraTeoX [1k\]: m6
RyuuGan [1d\]: m6 
Syptryn [3d\]: g13 
mi1 [1k\]: no
yosogo [1d\]: close
sameasyou [2d\]: he is the only one with 8 wins
mmmd [2k?\]: artem was on board 2
chestr [3k\]: n1 now
mi1 [1k\]: he is just leading
StefanRadu [1k\]: ilia lost the game with f3-f4 sequence. too bad
mi1 [1k\]: 1 tour remaining
laroja [3d\]: w+0.5
Cookiex [-\]: artem is nearly kgs 9d
]
;B[hj]C[Cookiex [-\]: very strong
ogre [2d?\]: wow. hari raising end to this tournament
danigabi [5d\]: illya >> artem
adiida [3k\]: d9
]
;W[ns]C[Cookiex [-\]: artem > ... u name it
dfgdf: n1 was bigger
twinsen61: if Ilia loses this, he loses the title?
Syptryn [3d\]: g10 
Syptryn [3d\]: same size
chestr [3k\]: n1 yes
ogre [2d?\]: he never had the title
zakatan [6k\]: still a game tomorrow
RyuuGan [1d\]: g10 
]
;B[os]C[danigabi [5d\]: i guess artem plays chae lim tomorrow
twinsen61: yes, but won't artem have a higher SOS?
]
;W[ms]C[deft [4d\]: I thought O1 and T14 miai, so W should G10 not here
Maki1 [2k\]: no chance for title if he loses here
]
;B[gj]
;W[fj]C[ogre [2d?\]: diner was the champ
StefanRadu [1k\]: its close but w first chance
Lilinette [-\]: 79.5 to 76.0
NorthWind [5k\]: quite a surprise. maybe Ilya is tired. it's been a long tournament
danigabi [5d\]: then illya plays someone considerable weaker, so he has a good chance to win
Lilinette [-\]: Really close but white has it no matter how i look at it
sameasyou [2d\]: artem will either play vs  Kim, JungHyeop or Catalin tomorrow
yosogo [1d\]: b lose
adiida [3k\]: why not d9 instead of f10?
Draxt [3k\]: m6 
Blitzcore [3d\]: g13?
wolokom [5k\]: s 10
deft [4d\]: oh, I see - B N1 is actually semisente
N4KED [1d\]: GO WHITE!!!
Blitzcore [3d\]: g13 nothing
]
;B[kj]C[yosogo [1d\]: d9
]
;W[kk]C[RyuuGan [1d\]: m6 
Blitzcore [3d\]: m6
]
;B[ln]
;W[lm]C[danigabi [5d\]: what is semi-sente?
topos [4k\]: B will lost
]
;B[sg]
;W[sh]C[danigabi [5d\]: its sente in half the games its played?
]
;B[sf]C[sushisan [4d\]: b N1 is nothing
deft [4d\]: must be answered at some point later 
deft [4d\]: but not immediately
myongstu [4d\]: p13
deft [4d\]: N1 M1 O1 then there is K2 problem
Cookiex [-\]: f16 
ogre [2d?\]: just k16
Draxt [3k\]: g13 
deft [4d\]: so W cannot M1 without losing sente
]
;W[jd]C[danigabi [5d\]: k2 j2 ?
sushisan [4d\]: K2 == mnothing
Maki1 [2k\]: k16
chestr [3k\]: g13 
deft [4d\]: it was bigger than it looked to me at first
]
;B[gg]
;W[fd]C[Cookiex [-\]: :3
danigabi [5d\]: eye vs no eye
danigabi [5d\]: k2 stones lose
]
;B[ge]C[Maki1 [2k\]: manhood ko
kukulis4 [2d\]: exactly
]
;W[aj]C[N4KED [1d\]: haha
N4KED [1d\]: lol
Draxt [3k\]: d9 
chestr [3k\]: d9 
]
;B[bl]C[Cookiex [-\]: w+
]
;W[el]
;B[dk]
;W[dj]C[Keiyakusha [-\]: lol ?
]
;B[pe]C[erikk [-\]: that was Harry's only mistake?
]
;W[of]
;B[gf]C[dishonest [-\]: i cannot watch it, he is eating stuff from his nose :/
danigabi [5d\]: poor b
danigabi [5d\]: i was rooting for illya this year
ogre [2d?\]: me too
IceSpectre [4k\]: w+2.5
Reym [-\]: why w e8 and not d9?
Cookiex [-\]: maybe u'll have more luck rooting for artem this year
Lilinette [-\]: 79.6 to 76.0
cherisse [1k\]: sad
memur74 [5k\]: too fast
talm95 [2d\]: b+5
Lilinette [-\]: *79.5
grumpyjoe [-\]: this puts artem in the lead?
Vondel [1k\]: did artim win his game today ??
alexanderp [?\]: yes
danigabi [5d\]: i wonder if illyas health condition affected the game results
memur74 [5k\]: he couldnt catch
N4KED [1d\]: YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maki1 [2k\]: I like Ilya, but the fact that he beat Kang, the queen of cuteness biased me against him,,,
memur74 [5k\]: they finished
Lilinette [-\]: He looks really sick...
CatalinKGS [5k?\]: 79,6 sounds better :)
flashback [7d\]: j18 was propably wining move
memur74 [5k\]: counting
Lilinette [-\]: Hope its not too bad
NorthWind [5k\]: I;m pleased for Artem. hope he wins in last rouund
flashback [7d\]: or not play f19 losing move
cherisse [1k\]: hmm how is kang? only two losses, vs illia and ali right?
Fukurokuji [2k\]: when the last round starts tomorrow?
topos [4k\]: W+2.5
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+2.5
GoIsBoring [3d\]: now b has only one way to win - count cheating!!!
NorthWind [5k\]: over
Karnesun [5d\]: YES!@!!!!!!
Karnesun [5d\]: )
cherisse [1k\]: huhu
GoIsBoring [3d\]: oh he failed already
ogre [2d?\]: nice game
Lilinette [-\]: The way you count on areal board is really strange
cherisse [1k\]: Nooooooooo!
Maki1 [2k\]: count cheating only happens in Hikaru No Go
N4KED [1d\]: F YES
eatramen [22k\]: man those stones must be so chipped up
chestr [3k\]: tn
gregorius: flashback why W didnt cut at K6?
N4KED [1d\]: chinese counting takes away the possiblility of cheating
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: W+2.5
chestr [3k\]: tnx euro!
grumpyjoe [-\]: clap clap
Pylon [3d?\]: thx harry!
grumpyjoe [-\]: thanks eurogotv1
CatalinKGS [5k?\]: Thank you Euro
eatramen [22k\]: so artem's tourney maybe?
cherisse [1k\]: i wonder what is euro's rank
ogre [2d?\]: oh transcription error. 
ogre [2d?\]: lol
erikk [-\]: Harry is 1d
hirakawade [2d?\]: Bye 
CatalinKGS [5k?\]: Bye Hira
Maki1 [2k\]: wow, random Korean walks in and just wins....
eatramen [22k\]: euro is 1k
jinkidie [19k?\]: SE concurs, W +2.5 lol
CatalinKGS [5k?\]: Euro, what is Catalin's result?
Maki1 [2k\]: Euro left I think
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