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RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[9000]OT[1x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Go Congress 2010 board 1 round 6]PW[Csaba Mero]PB[Ilia Shikshin]WR[6d]BR[7d]DT[2010-08-02]RO[6]PC[Tampere, Finland]US[HW9x9]C[Excalibor [-\]: good morning, Harry :-)
Excalibor [-\]: we missed you this weekend, how was it?
VickyH [2d\]: the pairing is of round 6 is not online
StefanRadu [1k\]: csaba vs. ilyia
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: morning
StefanRadu [1k\]: and on board 2 i belive its the 3p vs kang. 
NorthWind [5k\]: yeah I can see Mr Dinerchstein sitting at board 2
StefanRadu [1k\]: kang will smash him:)
ZothOmmog [4k\]: I voted for kotos
notbert [7k\]: i thought egc is over 
notbert [7k\]: :?
zmrda [18k\]: hi
A1R [4k\]: just first week + weekend tourney
ZothOmmog [4k\]: Kang is all about serving man.
notbert [7k\]: ah, k; but ilia is new european champ, right?
A1R [4k\]: if he continues the winning streak
A1R [4k\]: yes
A1R [4k\]: 5 games left
FluffyCat [?\]: when does the match start>
MilanChe [-\]: for about 40 min i think
FluffyCat [?\]: o
notbert [7k\]: what is with artem, i tired to find him on the egc site under results but he wasnt listed?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: should have started allready, waiting for Ilia(board 1) and Kang (board 2)
FluffyCat [?\]: is this live?
Backflash: she is late again :(
FluffyCat [?\]: which one is the girl?
FluffyCat [?\]: llia?
Lentyi [1d\]: lol
FluffyCat [?\]: im abit confused
ZothOmmog [4k\]: both look like girl names
Isobeutel [4k\]: haha
Dupaaxe [?\]: csaba play both games ?
FluffyCat [?\]: dupaaxe?
FluffyCat [?\]: from flyordie?
WorldCop [3k\]: yes, it's simul
Isobeutel [4k\]: no, its a miss from euro go
WorldCop [3k\]: csaba too strong
Dupaaxe [?\]: yup :)
FluffyCat [?\]: whats up its meh liamtennis
FluffyCat [?\]: i havent seen u on fod in awhile
grumpyjoe [-\]: where is kang?
FluffyCat [?\]: 150 mins whoa
hosainogo: Harry, you should change the headers for the online streams. For sure Csaba is not playing both at board 1 and also board 2 LOL
Dupaaxe [?\]: well i look World Footbal mess
FluffyCat [?\]: the first move has been played on board 2
Song17 [4d\]: Who is Ali playing this round?
Song17 [4d\]: Kim Junghyeop?
A1R [4k\]: i think so yes
Song17 [4d\]: hmm.. ok
FluffyCat [?\]: urgh im gettin bored
ZothOmmog [4k\]: i think white is ahead a little
FluffyCat [?\]: i thought this was suppose to start 20 mins ago
Excalibor [-\]: board 1 is getting used to a late start :)
HlFl [-\]: who is Catalin playing this round?
Excalibor [-\]: ok, white head in points now, but black has sente :-)
kenjiro43 [6k\]: LOL
Excalibor [-\]: :)
Excalibor [-\]: last time Ilya took a anap in fron tof the camera, waiting for Kang :-)
Am [5d\]: who is spleaping here?
kenjiro43 [6k\]: It looks like a very long game
kenjiro43 [6k\]: ;)
Excalibor [-\]: it is usually long... last ones were over 5 hours
kenjiro43 [6k\]: So true
Excalibor [-\]: okay, gotta go, bbl... have fun :)
snowman [-\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-pairing-r6.txt
snowman [-\]: and http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live
Am [5d\]: what is happening?
snowman [-\]: hard concentration somewhere...
Am [5d\]: ))
o3epo [1k\]: Илью выселили из 3-местного номера, и сейчас он живет в 10-местном.
o3epo [1k\]: Естественно он не выспаслся и сейчас спит
Am [5d\]: ... остальные 9 - девушки...
Am [5d\]: а что такого там случилось?
o3epo [1k\]: яПодоляк и Ковалева уехали домой и Илью выселили
A1R [4k\]: where is ilya?
Am [5d\]: хм.....
Am [5d\]: как то очень тсранно....
o3epo [1k\]: да странно, но такова действительность
Am [5d\]: озеро, а ты кто, елс ине секрет?
o3epo [1k\]: похоже Илье не удастся выиграть еще 5 партий
o3epo [1k\]: тот, кто в курсе событий российсих топ тгроков
Am [5d\]: тогда удачи тебе, по жизни!
H16 [1d\]: man, somebody should really go to wake shikshin up...
Hagios [1d\]: It seems, if I watch a game of Ilya's, he will arrive late.
avio [2d\]: Catalin taranu is playing a 2 dan
avio [2d\]: this is too much
avio [2d\]: only because of the huge top group - 32 players
kenjiro43 [6k\]: it is strange
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Laura had best result so far
kenjiro43 [6k\]: But to get to play 5p so easy
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: finally
cherisse [1k\]: ♥ illia
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;B[pd]C[kenjiro43 [6k\]: Go Csaba!
Goleath [1k\]: hey hey.. finally
A1R [4k\]: was the time running?
A1R [4k\]: already
Q161 [?\]: how much time did he lose?
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;W[dp]
;B[pq]C[cherisse [1k\]: who was late? :(
Vandal [5k\]: go roln!
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;W[dc]
;B[fq]C[ka3ak [1k\]: Roln - the best !
Stefany93 [15k\]: No
Stefany93 [15k\]: Mero will win!
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;W[po]C[avio [2d\]: Laura defeated couple of 3 dans
kenjiro43 [6k\]: TRue
kenjiro43 [6k\]: And good for her
itepilah [1d\]: of course Csaba will win
avio [2d\]: she is "last up" and Catalin "first down"
Isobeutel [4k\]: Red-Nose Ilya.... did he drank too much?
kenjiro43 [6k\]: But I really don't know if she can match 5p
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sound and picture ok?
Hangovers [3k\]: is there videofeed?
itepilah [1d\]: ok
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Hangovers [3k\]: thx
Hagios [1d\]: Is the videofeed choppy for anyone else?  Trying to find if it's my network or the feed.
Isobeutel [4k\]: oh no... seems like Ilya fell ill...
Totti10 [4k\]: its a little choppy
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;B[oo]C[Goleath [1k\]: eurogotv asking for login from that link >P
wither [5k\]: ilyas been getting sick for a few days now. he wasnt looking so great before. now hes at his peak sickness
wither [5k\]: mst be all that anxious moving around he does
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;W[on]C[Goleath [1k\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/EuroGoTV1 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: u like adverticeses in your video Goleath?
Talus [13k\]: Im guessing the stream doesnt work for me as Im in Canada?
Talus [13k\]: was reading that there were region restrictions
itepilah [1d\]: why is Canada restricted?
wither [5k\]: whered they go? blowing nose?
A1R [4k\]: how much time has ilya left, harry?
Talus [13k\]: I was asking if it was- the stream wont load for me
Kickchon [?\]: enough :P
holynec [?\]: how is the food at the congress ? :k
itepilah [1d\]: try with other browser
Talus [13k\]: ok
Talus [13k\]: same problem with both IE and firefox =(
Hagios [1d\]: Talus, stream is up for me, but it was a little choppy (hard to tell now with no players at the table)
Talus [13k\]: sigh, I was able to see the US one earlier, but I guess the problem must be on my end
Brown [1d\]: go Csaba!
gfdhff [4k\]: install opera and chrome
lwf [?\]: hi
Goleath [1k\]: Shikshin been partying a bit much last night_
Goleath [1k\]: ?
juj: Shiksin's got a bad flu
elvard [2k\]: what are possibilities for 9th move?
A1R [4k\]: lol?!
fab [-\]: P4 and O5 are the two choices
Isobeutel [4k\]: too cold there for a russian
fab [-\]: P4 more usual
Kour [4k\]: i didnt kniw russians got hangover
elvard [2k\]: p4 or o5 ? atari? I know o6 q7...
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;B[op]C[mihi [6d\]: flu in july?that sucks
elvard [2k\]: hmm, it was black's turn :)
Zahlman [1k\]: p4 is the simple way
Zahlman [1k\]: and yeah, b wouldn't generally tenuki that
Neocon [?\]: pink shirt guy...
Goleath [1k\]: someone give the sick guy a clean T-shirt and some tea with honey... dude's gonna infect the entire top board section :P
jjermann [5d?\]: who is playing?
Goleath [1k\]: Csaba Mero and Ilia Shikshin. 
jjermann [5d?\]: cant see on android kgs app
jjermann [5d?\]: thx
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
jjermann [5d?\]: board 2?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: board 2 very nice
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but no betting on next move^^
BigMouth: what's that, chop sticks?
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;W[pm]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: a fan
BigMouth: oh, ok
elvard [2k\]: I wonder how they are spending so much time for this moves... Until now it was basic joseki, so they could foresee final pattern from the start and choose the one, they want to play (which one best fit whole board situation)...
cherisse [1k\]: illia looks sickly
BigMouth: very sickly
WorldCop [3k\]: anyone know if b has plans to become pro?
FunGoSage [2k\]: tewari is something to consider
NschoTschi [-\]: elvard joseki is not a concept to follow blindly
goth [?\]: he doesn't seem to have looked different since his birth
Yggdrasil [6k\]: Ilia parece un poco chungo
BigMouth: ahahha
Euskadi [10k\]: ?
Yggdrasil [6k\]: A ver si está malo 
goth [?\]: which does not mean he isn't a genious player
fatihsulak [-\]: eurogotv, how many points do we win if we guess the next move?
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;W[eo]
;B[cq]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: depends on how many bet
elvard [2k\]: hmm, they played so fast or it was just delayed broadcast?
ZeroKun [-\]: its about a 5sec delay
Stoneflow [-\]: black is already ahead
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: formula is : ceil(totalbets/winners)
JackHearts [10k\]: how much time do they have ?
fatihsulak [-\]: :) ok thx
Stoneflow [-\]: fuseki powerful
NschoTschi [-\]: I won 5 bets but gained only once a point. But every time I lost a bet  I also lost a point
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so if 100 bets; 40 winners each winner gets 2
WorldCop [3k\]: ceil? you mean floor.
fatihsulak [-\]: friday i won and get like 1-2 points, but today i win 20 points from 2 bets :)
elvard [2k\]: Stoneflow: How do you judge that?
Kanin [-\]: one mans floor is another mans ceiling
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;W[ho]C[schaz [13k\]: is this a replay?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: bet is only valid if u make it 30 seconds before the player makes is, if not bet is cancelled and point is returned
Stoneflow [-\]: black has 2 corners, gets to play very dynamical opening too
FunGoSage [2k\]: no, live
Syptryn [3d\]: black looks good here
Stoneflow [-\]: his stones are working well here
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if there are more then 50% winners you only get your point back
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
fatihsulak [-\]: just d3?
fatihsulak [-\]: not aggresive?
holynec [?\]: i dont like this
holynec [?\]: -.-
kryft [1k\]: Hmm, I haven't seen H5 before.
Stoneflow [-\]: q11 or d15 i think is good
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 38 bets were made; all wrong^^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i am getting rich
Kanin [-\]: black got lots of points already, but it's hard to say white gained thickness
gfdhff [4k\]: ohoh ... Roln sick !
gfdhff [4k\]: ;/
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;B[cp]C[gfdhff [4k\]: too bad
fatihsulak [-\]: c4 :(
HlFl [-\]: where can one go to see the results of this tournament so far?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: on http://egc2010.fi 
Dino9 [6d\]: egc2010.fi
HlFl [-\]: thx Euro  :)
snowman [-\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results.php
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Vesa allways knows better^^
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;W[dm]
;B[dn]C[Fredegas [4d\]: this is Csaba´s style, wait for him, he will fight well in this game
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;W[en]
;B[em]C[ShikshinV [?\]: Ilya has a temperature
holynec [?\]: can anyone bet?
fatihsulak [-\]: yep
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, there were 9 betters last move
WorldCop [3k\]: anyone that can identify people in photos
schaz [13k\]: yes
holynec [?\]: how do i bet?!
Bazilikan [2k\]: how do you bet?
WVoron [4d\]: какая температура?
schaz [13k\]: hey
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but i must say most people are not good in guessing the correct mmove
wingnoll [11k\]: with VIP points
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i earn much more then i anticipated
Bazilikan [2k\]: huh?
wingnoll [11k\]: u bet with VIP points
Bazilikan [2k\]: my bet d9 
xDragon [?\]: oh i thought itd be cash
schaz [13k\]: most people guess are wrong
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
xDragon [?\]: hed make a killing
holynec [?\]: so im on that page
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: right from the live stream there is a link
holynec [?\]: so how do i tag people for some VIP pts? :D
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: a board opens and if you click where u think the next move will be you can confirm ur bet
xDragon [?\]: i bet w plays a move on the board
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: tagging in the photo menu
Bazilikan [2k\]: i have no vip points?
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;W[cm]C[Syptryn [3d\]: how do you get VIP points?
VariantVL [2k?\]: i have a question, how do you redeem prizes for vip points?
Syptryn [3d\]: to bet anyway?
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;B[bm]
;W[bl]
;B[bn]
;W[dk]
;B[el]
;W[dj]C[Bazilikan [2k\]: i want bip pointa
Bazilikan [2k\]: vip*
NschoTschi [-\]: Is w aromo?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: later this month the shop will open
Fredegas [4d\]: yes
schaz [13k\]: ?
wingnoll [11k\]: shikshin seems ill
Fredegas [4d\]: NschoTschi
schaz [13k\]: what's aromo?
NschoTschi [-\]: kgs id
Fredegas [4d\]: aromo - kgs nick
Bazilikan [2k\]: how do i get vip points>
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you can buy books, lessons and teaching games (starting with Catalin Taranu)with the VIP-points
VariantVL [2k?\]: i have another question, once the shop opens up, how much are like one boko.
VariantVL [2k?\]: book*
wingnoll [11k\]: shiksin is coughing and wiping his nose a lot
Bazilikan [2k\]: not how use how do i get>
gisel [3d\]: where is list of prizes for vip points?
xDragon [?\]: i dont think id want to play against a sick person
eola [6k\]: is there video?
Bazilikan [2k\]: i got no vip points, so how do i get some
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: tagging photos in the Photo menu
wingnoll [11k\]: ya, me neither, he sounds really bad
Bazilikan [2k\]: oooh
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
VariantVL [2k?\]: Eurogotv1, how many vip points do i need for a book?
saadasdsa: w have to be carfull whit 4 stones in the left side ,there looks in dangeros
Bazilikan [2k\]: how do i gwt egc pin>
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: cheapest book will be 750 points
martin3141 [1d\]: h7 - k5 - c12?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if you start typing somebodys last name below a list with links to pins appear
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: select the right person 
zizu [-\]: is ilya sick?
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;B[hm]C[xDragon [?\]: just a leaky faucet
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, sick
Am [5d\]: thats normal for Ilya.....
kryft [1k\]: Hmm, he looked fine yesterday. Too bad.
BigMouth: b will have to wash stones after the game
xDragon [?\]: or burn them
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: teaching game with Catalin Taranu (1 move a day) will be 300 points/month
Am [5d\]: if Ilya sick, then he is prepared to the tournament  :-)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
Googolkyu [4k\]: w must not capture any infected stones
xDragon [?\]: yea im nto capturing anything
zizu [-\]: lol
xDragon [?\]: without gloves
xDragon [?\]: or tongs
Neocon [?\]: if w capture a b stone i would tell ilya to pick it up for me lol
Neocon [?\]: too sick
A1R [4k\]: he should drink much
BigMouth: looks like b is swallowing booger :)
Weishenme [4d\]: go Csaba !!
BigMouth: no need to drink
zizu [-\]: Zhuyeqing is cold
RobSchley [7k\]: props to him for making the effort
RobSchley [7k\]: that's got to suck
RobSchley [7k\]: especially with video
RobSchley [7k\]: yuck
martin3141 [1d\]: k5 c12 c14 e12 f10 h9 h10 
Goleath [1k\]: EurogoTV1, can't you sort out a cup of tea with honey for the sick man? :)
kenjiro43 [6k\]: yes
kenjiro43 [6k\]: it would be good
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
Goleath [1k\]: would really get rid of most of the coughing
Goleath [1k\]: and probably will make the boogers taste better
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i can give him a banana
kenjiro43 [6k\]: lol
Goleath [1k\]: anything :P 
kenjiro43 [6k\]: strange cure for flu
canizar: the whole thing is an act
Bauer [1d\]: @martin k5 can be cut off, not good
xDragon [?\]: give him something spicy. itll clear him right out
gisel [3d\]: vodka with pepper, it should do the trick
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;W[hk]C[xDragon [?\]: yup
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 11 people wrong; nobody right^^
fatihsulak [-\]: wow that is unexpected :)
ShusakuSai [8k\]: against who play thomas debarre eurogo ?
martin3141 [1d\]: if b cuts k5 off, b's own two-space-jump will suffer
gfdhff [4k\]: Iliya should cough on slaves nor his hands
yamashitaK [5d\]: lol cut off k5....
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i dont know; look at the pairing on http//egc2010.fi
ShusakuSai [8k\]: ok thanks
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: http://egc2010.fi
Goleath [1k\]: ew.... using the same napkin over and over 
ShusakuSai [8k\]: laura avram/catalin, taranu : Wow...
Goleath [1k\]: hehe... that's what you get with a big top group ^^
Goleath [1k\]: gonna be eaten alive :P
ShusakuSai [8k\]: of course yes...
Hangovers [3k\]: H8
martin3141 [1d\]: g6 g5 k7 k5 m7 and w is in trouble
Bazilikan [2k\]: i must go get paul the octipus to tell me the next move
ShusakuSai [8k\]: victor lin/ thomas debarre, seems still possiblme
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;B[fj]
;W[fk]
;B[ek]
;W[ej]
;B[fi]C[Syptryn [3d\]: woa
Syptryn [3d\]: white didn't expect that one
NschoTschi [-\]: Ilya is playing fast?
Bazilikan [2k\]: im hoping for a ko
jjermann [5d?\]: b has 5 groups
jjermann [5d?\]: so has 5
jjermann [5d?\]: w
Syptryn [3d\]: nope
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;W[gk]
;B[gm]C[NschoTschi [-\]: strong move
RobSchley [7k\]: this is going to be a cool fight
RobSchley [7k\]: if ilia survives
Song17 [4d\]: j4?
NschoTschi [-\]: I prefer b
xDragon [?\]: on the board or irl?
NschoTschi [-\]: irl
holynec [?\]: bankai
NschoTschi [-\]: hard to concentrate with a cold
xDragon [?\]: we doint need another blood vomitting game
ShusakuSai [8k\]: ah ah funny idea
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;W[dh]C[Syptryn [3d\]: mmm
Syptryn [3d\]: f13 d14 k7 ?
Euskadi [10k\]: ?
Am [5d\]: g5 ?
Bazilikan [2k\]: u think thats gonna be the next move?
Euskadi [10k\]: k4
fatihsulak [-\]: i think ilya thinks bigger like h11 :)
Euskadi [10k\]: k4
Bazilikan [2k\]: k4 seems shallow
Euskadi [10k\]: "shallow" ?
Bazilikan [2k\]: yes shallow
xDragon [?\]: i think hes asking to elaborate
Euskadi [10k\]: what does that mean ?
Bazilikan [2k\]: why is there no betting on board 2?
Luna86 [9k\]: Ilya is looking terrible(not in game)...seems that he would really need some sleep and warm drinks
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;B[jn]C[Euskadi [10k\]: Thanks to MISTER Bazilikan for his absence of answer !
fatihsulak [-\]: white seems like in big trouble
Bazilikan [2k\]: shh im betting im betting on the right answer
jeremyS [4k\]: so nice equipment :D *drooling*
fatihsulak [-\]: board 2 is funny :)
FunGoSage [2k\]: hmm, b seems to b in a better attacking position
taiji [2d\]: b still got the power up
taiji [2d\]: even if sounds like dying
xDragon [?\]: hes jsut recharging
Onibaku [5k?\]: j6)
Goleath [1k\]: Get the man a t-shirt and tea... gawd... sick guy walking around at table 1 and noone offering a little help?
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;W[dq]
;B[do]C[Goleath [1k\]: with a jacket only... 
xDragon [?\]: i know i wouldnt want to be around him in that condition
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;W[ep]C[Goleath [1k\]: you got a nurse or something at the location? or does someone have a spare T-shirt? 
NschoTschi [-\]: d2 any good?
zizu [-\]: csaba doesnt want to be sick too, hes away
Smilogo [6k\]: will the e4 group survive?
wingnoll [11k\]: could'nt they find  a better time to play, it's nearly 2am
Webanim [1d\]: j4 ?
Onibaku [5k?\]: j6 first
Onibaku [5k?\]: for w
Goleath [1k\]: In Finland it's 11-ish
xDragon [?\]: windnoll theyre in europe...
xDragon [?\]: hence european go congress
wingnoll [11k\]: +8, so GMT or so right
itepilah [1d\]: isn't this heave for white?
itepilah [1d\]: heavy
kryft [1k\]: wingnoll, GMT +3
xDragon [?\]: its about 11am there
wingnoll [11k\]: oh ok, is it winter time there also
Onibaku [5k?\]: if white J6 then B j7
jeremyS [4k\]: 5:50 am here
kryft [1k\]: wingnoll, No
Smilogo [6k\]: sure heavy, but perhaps only way
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;B[fn]C[wingnoll [11k\]: shiksim has a heavy jacket on, and there is a picture of snow above them
Smilogo [6k\]: it looks not alive yet, perhaps not long game :)
xDragon [?\]: thats cause finland is so cold it snows there year round
spar [6k\]: g4
wingnoll [11k\]: oh, ok, thx dragon, that explains alot
kryft [1k\]: This has been the hottest summer ever, actually.
Am [5d\]: g4 is bad
Trivia [2k?\]: yeah lets make the next EGC in Iceland
xDragon [?\]: yea its almsot above freezing
month [17k\]: which means it still snows
Am [5d\]: but i dont know what is good here....
Kanin [-\]: finland is sso cold the women there scrape their car windows with their nipple
Kanin [-\]: s
Smilogo [6k\]: h3
xDragon [?\]: and men pay women to do that
snowman [-\]: thanks for your chauvinist remarks
Kanin [-\]: some men will also do it, ofcourse
xDragon [?\]: thats what im here for
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;W[cr]C[Smilogo [6k\]: now he dont want to sacrifice it
Kanin [-\]: but there's a size difference that has an impact on the ratio
wingnoll [11k\]: is csaba ever playing ilia before this?
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: Why he does not whatch Dinerstein  ng game?
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: sorry He already does it
jjermann [5d?\]: C2 gote?
]
;B[br]C[Trivia [2k?\]: i think c2 is more like kikashi
snowman [-\]: oh dear, chicken...
Bazilikan [2k\]: d2
fatihsulak [-\]: still didnt understand the meaning of c2 
Warfreak2 [6d?\]: c2 so that b can't d2 e2 e3
fatihsulak [-\]: ok thx
]
;W[gp]C[jjermann [5d?\]: g4 vital
jjermann [5d?\]: I guess the only move
Smilogo [6k\]: looks like g4 is good now :)
fatihsulak [-\]: j4 so strong :)
]
;B[ip]C[taiji [2d\]: such a fierce attack
Song17 [4d\]: seems like the game will end quickly
Moppel: w is a victim of random opening moves
xDragon [?\]: if i were ilya thatd be the idea
taiji [2d\]: csaba won't put his guns down too fast
Smilogo [6k\]: looks still very difficult for w
FunGoSage [2k\]: b has an excellent attack plus he can save is h7 group and attack the H9 group
Smilogo [6k\]: if this group dies it must be over
FunGoSage [2k\]: i don't c how the group can live
yamashitaK [5d\]: w will live 
yamashitaK [5d\]: but b has a good game
FunGoSage [2k\]: ko?
spar [6k\]: j5
]
;W[iq]C[elvard [2k\]: isn't it enough for black simply cofine white and make nice territory at m4 ?
Song17 [4d\]: I'm not sure w survives
Smilogo [6k\]: i dont understand j3 but looks good :)
Song17 [4d\]: but for sure b doesn't Have to kill
Oleksandr [1k\]: is Artem plaing?
Song17 [4d\]: if b h3 w can try to cut h7
BigBlunder [3d?\]: all with T-Shirt ,but Ilia 
Smilogo [6k\]: isnt this move only for making live?
]
;B[hq]C[vingol [1d\]: not sure
Syptryn [3d\]: illy wants to win before he dies
wingnoll [11k\]: if b doesn't kill here w wins for sure
basil [3d\]: yeah. hurry up offense
Smilogo [6k\]: csaba must play for a long game ;-)
Smilogo [6k\]: but can he live there at all?
]
;W[hp]
;B[jp]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
fatihsulak [-\]: ko?
mihi [6d\]: yes,a ko is possible
FunGoSage [2k\]: e2 is such a vital point for whoever plays there
fatihsulak [-\]: i think black doesnt need to fight ko 
Smilogo [6k\]: if b played k3 then h7 group in trouble?
kukulis4 [2d\]: k4 is honte
Smilogo [6k\]: thx
]
;W[hr]
;B[gq]
;W[ir]C[Trivia [2k?\]: what's going on?
Weishenme [4d\]: Csaba so strong in semeais
holynec [?\]: how many stones
Song17 [4d\]: hey.. you're the one who beat the 9d
fatihsulak [-\]: very difficult position for me but not for the players :)
Q161 [?\]: quick alex! add another stone before she gets back!
jjermann [5d?\]: can anyone see what's going on?
jjermann [5d?\]: who kills whom?
fatihsulak [-\]: white winning semeai?
MilanMilan [9d\]: b in trouble
fatihsulak [-\]: but i am too weak for that level :)
]
;B[dl]C[fatihsulak [-\]: l3? not good
Syptryn [3d\]: what is this move?
Kanin [-\]: what  is d8?
Syptryn [3d\]: I don't understand it 
jjermann [5d?\]: G2 L3 E2 not working?
Am [5d\]: yose miru
Bazilikan [2k\]: im betting c8
Syptryn [3d\]: just fills in black liberties
basil [3d\]: making ko threats?
Am [5d\]: answer or not question...
Bazilikan [2k\]: please please answer
CreazyJ [3d\]: black want E12?
]
;W[fh]C[Bazilikan [2k\]: awwwwww
fatihsulak [-\]: suddenly white becomes active :)
]
;B[gh]
;W[gi]
;B[gr]C[fatihsulak [-\]: there is a ko probably :)
NschoTschi [-\]: yes it looks like theres ako but i dont find it
Trivia [2k?\]: ko with D2
Veivi [4d\]: i don't think D2 makes ko
Veivi [4d\]: w has G1 later
fatihsulak [-\]: what is wrong with l3?
jjermann [5d?\]: if W L3 and B E2 who wins?
Draxt [3k\]: l3 f4 f5 d2 e2 c1 f2 g1 f1 e1 ko?
sameasyou [2d\]: if w L3 then ko
sameasyou [2d\]: or white
sameasyou [2d\]: but b has now so many threats
martin3141 [1d\]: l3 - d2 - e2 - c1 - f1?
martin3141 [1d\]: oh no, sorry
jjermann [5d?\]: but what about E2?
avio [2d\]: w l3 b e2 w d2 b f1 and b wins the semeai
martin3141 [1d\]: nvm
Weishenme [4d\]: F1 is tesuji no ?
sameasyou [2d\]: no Vio...if b f1 then either ko or white wins the semeai
sameasyou [2d\]: w has like 4 outside liberties
Moppel: b aiminf f4
jjermann [5d?\]: B F4 W F5 G6 G5 J5
NschoTschi [-\]: f1 k3 and then ko at c1?
avio [2d\]: black plays f4 first then f1
NschoTschi [-\]: f4 looses a lib no?
sameasyou [2d\]: yes...still the same no of liberties
Draxt [3k\]: but what about E2 after J5 jjermann?
Weishenme [4d\]: after w F1 , I see white living
jjermann [5d?\]: Draxt that was after the L3 E2 exchange
Weishenme [4d\]: milanmilan what do you think ?
]
;W[kq]
;B[er]
;W[dr]
;B[fp]
;W[fo]
;B[fs]C[avio [2d\]: w dead
jjermann [5d?\]: I think ko
avio [2d\]: me ari me nashi
jjermann [5d?\]: aji around J6
Draxt [3k\]: ha ok jjermann sorry :)
Sven84 [3k\]: b1?
kukulis4 [2d\]: aji ? white in damezumari
avio [2d\]: w only 2 outside libs
Weishenme [4d\]: bad for w now
jjermann [5d?\]: it looks nice for b :)
NschoTschi [-\]: what was the use of d8 ??
jjermann [5d?\]: b wanted E12 in sente
Aquarius [4k?\]: csaba should resign, so ilya can go to bed^^
Euskadi [10k\]: Mister Aquarius ... a little presomptuous !
MagicMike [6k\]: an interesting problem in game 1
NschoTschi [-\]: thx
Euskadi [10k\]: Wait and see ... 
Hangovers [3k\]: Ilia no longer sit at table - confident?
Larrave [1d\]: no sick
H16 [1d\]: aproche-ko for black?
sgjiehui [3d?\]: ko
Trivia [2k?\]: ilya is interested in board 2
cherisse [1k\]: looking at breakfast's game now :)
]
;W[hs]C[cherisse [1k\]: god what happened, this looks like a kyuuu game
]
;B[gs]C[martin3141 [1d\]: b will use f13 and h11 as ko-threads
Namastee [2d\]: llia seems sick
Syptryn [3d\]: I don't think it ko
Song17 [4d\]: isn't b dead here?
hadlar [5d?\]: this seems ko
Ripples [2k\]: B h6
Syptryn [3d\]: white just dead
hadlar [5d?\]: B takes first
Dino9 [6d\]: G5
Song17 [4d\]: d1
goth [?\]: ko
sgjiehui [3d?\]: ko
NschoTschi [-\]: w need sente for F13?
hadlar [5d?\]: d1 bad
Dino9 [6d\]: D1 doesn't work
donzet [?\]: white g5 win the fight
fatihsulak [-\]: a ko which black takes first
Farcas [3d\]: go?
Farcas [3d\]: ko?
hadlar [5d?\]: d1 g6 g5 j5 e1 h6 can't play e3
goth [?\]: but b takes first
martin3141 [1d\]: e1 is ko?
Syptryn [3d\]: how does white make ko?
Syptryn [3d\]: I see dead white
sgjiehui [3d?\]: e1
hadlar [5d?\]: e1 is ko
goth [?\]: c1
sgjiehui [3d?\]: no
goth [?\]: w c1 is ko
cherisse [1k\]: chocolates mallows for roln
sgjiehui [3d?\]: e1
hadlar [5d?\]: here: e3 g6 g5 j5 e1 d1 c1 b1 e1 
Ripples [2k\]: yea white looks dead
sgjiehui [3d?\]: e3 then e1
]
;W[bs]C[NschoTschi [-\]: b1 give libs
]
;B[ar]C[Blitzcore [3d\]: g5 also
Syptryn [3d\]: e1 g6 
Syptryn [3d\]: white dies...
clayton [-\]: b3
Farcas [3d\]: b3 
wingnoll [11k\]: k3 looks good
Onibaku [5k?\]: then G6
cherisse [1k\]: omg...
sgjiehui [3d?\]: e3
tohnoakiha [3k?\]: c1
sgjiehui [3d?\]: e3 then e1
]
;W[bq]
;B[bp]C[cherisse [1k\]: ?
N4KED [1d\]: ko fight
Excalibor [-\]: w g6 should help getting more liberties (g6 f7 h6)?
Onibaku [5k?\]: yes
Derrida [?\]: a1 not sente anymore simply
Onibaku [5k?\]: then no need this ko
N4KED [1d\]: white will treat the stones lightly
Eduu [5k?\]: wingnoll k3, k2, l2 m2, nothing
Stoneflow [-\]: no ko
fatihsulak [-\]: why is b3 here?
hadlar [5d?\]: b3 is just technique
x0000 [4k\]: g6 h6?
Onibaku [5k?\]: yes
drchaos [5k\]: b3 win one liberty
wingnoll [11k\]: oh right , thx Eduu
martin3141 [1d\]: looks like a two-step-ko for black
fatihsulak [-\]: i dont think so 
Onibaku [5k?\]: G6 good move for now
iancho [1d\]: this exchange will be difficult to evaluate
hadlar [5d?\]: it's not 2 step for black
fatihsulak [-\]: b3 loses points
fatihsulak [-\]: if it is still ko with e1
martin3141 [1d\]: an yes, sorry - it's a direct ko
hadlar [5d?\]: W has to start the ko, B has an eye he doesn't need to start it
Blitzcore [3d\]: what point is lost by b3?
Onibaku [5k?\]: K3 still open 
taiji [2d\]: w seems prwned
Derrida [?\]: n o point
basil [3d\]: b3 is standard
Onibaku [5k?\]: its bsd for white
Onibaku [5k?\]: bad*
fatihsulak [-\]: why standart? 
Blitzcore [3d\]: why b3 bad
Blitzcore [3d\]: normal
fatihsulak [-\]: if white wins ko 
Derrida [?\]: b3 simply prevents direct a1 in sente
fatihsulak [-\]: then c8 is no longer sente
Excalibor [-\]: is Rita Pocsai playing the tournament?
bobstep [8k\]: because b has to play another move before he can a1
Eduu [5k?\]: b3 got answered at b territory so no points lost
Blitzcore [3d\]: without b3 w dies anyway
Onibaku [5k?\]: K3 need close
Sven84 [3k\]: g5 enough w fine
]
;W[eq]C[Onibaku [5k?\]: its danger for white
hadlar [5d?\]: W is just finished here
]
;B[hn]C[Dino9 [6d\]: awww
Neverhood [3k\]: wow
Excalibor [-\]: h6 cool, it takes so many liberties...
Dino9 [6d\]: c1 only move
Excalibor [-\]: could w k5 work? mmm
martin3141 [1d\]: e1 is the move ... if c1, b will take the ko first
Onibaku [5k?\]: no
Syptryn [3d\]: e1 d1 c1 j5 g4 g5 g6 e1 white takes first?
Neverhood [3k\]: c1g5 g6 j5 g5 a3 black tyakes first
iancho [1d\]: yes e1
Dino9 [6d\]: no e1
Excalibor [-\]: mmm
Dino9 [6d\]: e1 is bad
Julian1 [2d\]: e1 is suicide
Onibaku [5k?\]: no e1
N4KED [1d\]: well g5 first
Dino9 [6d\]: g5 c1 dead
Dino9 [6d\]: c1 is the only move here
Julian1 [2d\]: e1, d1, c1, g5, g6, j5
Julian1 [2d\]: w dead
Onibaku [5k?\]: no
misha91 [2d\]: g5 
Onibaku [5k?\]: w dead
martin3141 [1d\]: e1 d1 c1 g5 g6 j5 f7 g5 c8 seems possible
Onibaku [5k?\]: if go e1
]
;W[go]
;B[jq]
;W[jr]
;B[io]
;W[es]
;B[ds]
;W[cs]C[NschoTschi [-\]: here was another impact of d8
Dino9 [6d\]: wtf
Excalibor [-\]: whoah
donzet [?\]: g5 and whiye will win this ko
N4KED [1d\]: told yah
Syptryn [3d\]: e1
Julian1 [2d\]: ok, this is a little better for w
fatihsulak [-\]: now what is the advantage of b3?
hadlar [5d?\]: it's just technique! stop talking about it
Syptryn [3d\]: white will ignore all
Syptryn [3d\]: so black
Syptryn [3d\]: should tenuki
mFz [3k\]: black get a ko with a dead grp
Syptryn [3d\]: and play elsewgere
fatihsulak [-\]: just tell me your reason, dont say rude words
NschoTschi [-\]: can w ignore F13?
N4KED [1d\]: there are no ko threats big enough
Neverhood [3k\]: black must find the most painful threat now
N4KED [1d\]: so black is dead
Bembelbote [-\]: because of B3 b can't A1 i.e.
Syptryn [3d\]: black and tenuki
Excalibor [-\]: Syptryn: i think you are right
Onibaku [5k?\]: yes
Syptryn [3d\]: wait till big threat shows up
Onibaku [5k?\]: black dead
fatihsulak [-\]: 3 moves for black now
Shaomi [3d\]: e12 gigantic threat
sloy [2d\]: ko is free for black
hadlar [5d?\]: fatih, to prove yourpoint, just don't play e3 in your games. you'll show everyone that way
trebleclef [1k\]: ye, e12 looks nice
martin3141 [1d\]: f13
fatihsulak [-\]: just " a technique" is not enough for me... but i will not ask again... sorry
sgjiehui [3d?\]: black has no kothat is big enough
donzet [?\]: black will prefer to leave it as a yose ko
fatihsulak [-\]: black will just play 3 moves free i think
BigMouth: Is there video stream for this game?
Shaomi [3d\]: but if black use f11 aji no way white will tenuki, so he will destry aji there ?
Euskadi [10k\]: Mister Aquarius ... ? ... gone ?... 
itepilah [1d\]: e12 perfect for b
N4KED [1d\]: black gets 1 free move not 3
NschoTschi [-\]: B got this ko almost for free  F13 is for sure big enough
Shaomi [3d\]: e12 destroys aji and lose points :(
SaveYou [2k\]: a technique.. he meant that move was played unconsciously to get more liberties, i believe he wasn't even counting, because this move is just standart technique )
Euskadi [10k\]: Remeber what you asserted ?
]
;B[gn]
;W[es]
;B[fg]C[kimball [4d?\]: this is no yose-ko
N4KED [1d\]: you see now its a ko
fatihsulak [-\]: now it is real ko
Shaomi [3d\]: this is bigger than ko i think
N4KED [1d\]: 1 free move
trebleclef [1k\]: w is over
Syptryn [3d\]: white ignore
basil [3d\]: w is the one with no threats
martin3141 [1d\]: must ignore
Dino9 [6d\]: nice B
wingnoll [11k\]: fatihsulak, b3 prevents black from going to a1 without first taking at a3, or taking the ko
Kanin [-\]: ofcourse ignore
Shaomi [3d\]: i think this is much bigger than the ko
Onibaku [5k?\]: ignore
Syptryn [3d\]: still painful
un [2k\]: fatihsulak : if you think 1 point is big at this stage of the game try chess...
Kanin [-\]: b also lost points in allowing L3
NschoTschi [-\]: wie beim Elfmeter will nicht hinschauen......
Shaomi [3d\]: white has to take, than he gain some points couz f13 lost some ji
martin3141 [1d\]: the ko is also about the security of k2, so the ko is all-dominating....
Goleath [1k\]: b taking f12 shifts the middle balance completely
N4KED [1d\]: black gets ponuki but its not that great
basil [3d\]: d8 makes sense after all
Goleath [1k\]: threatens left side and middle white stones
fatihsulak [-\]: first b3 is not 1 point, it makes c8 like sente and 1 point is always important 
Excalibor [-\]: how many points is f13 worth?
Goleath [1k\]: not great? it gives b so much fighting options
Moppel: 21
goth [?\]: w can only capture
SaveYou [2k\]: if black gets ponnuki, white gets 2, even 3 unsettled groups)
N4KED [1d\]: yeah something like 20 points
N4KED [1d\]: but its redundunt
Excalibor [-\]: a lot of points
RiT [5d\]: this ko really hurts
martin3141 [1d\]: w has no choice but to capture
Onibaku [5k?\]: yes
Farcas [3d\]: caputere
Farcas [3d\]: capture
Shaomi [3d\]: prob is if black win ko k2 can be killed
Excalibor [-\]: capture the ko? ouch
Onibaku [5k?\]: there many point
Goleath [1k\]: it's a huge trade because w cant come up with an equal threat
Veivi [4d\]: either way, b has a good game
Excalibor [-\]: i see
WVoron [4d\]: why here think???!!!
Excalibor [-\]: interesting, thx
Theo2222 [11k\]: more or less équivalent imho
donzet [?\]: 56 pts against a reverse ponuki
]
;W[fr]
;B[eh]C[Excalibor [-\]: w took, nod
]
;W[dg]C[Stoneflow [-\]: w captures ko, black takes e12, wich is sente on top, then black can q10
martin3141 [1d\]: q10!!
WVoron [4d\]: b+
]
;B[ck]C[NschoTschi [-\]: e12 MORE THAN §= POINTS
NschoTschi [-\]: 30
]
;W[cj]C[Excalibor [-\]: q10! very big
gisel [3d\]: is eurogotv site down? I cant load it
NschoTschi [-\]: damned caps lock
donzet [?\]: c10 small
bolb [-\]: works
Acemi [?\]: l12 
Bindiou [1k\]: 0
]
;B[de]C[Shaomi [3d\]: what annoying mvoe lol
]
;W[ef]C[goth [?\]: emotional
]
;B[ec]C[Acemi [?\]: I dont get why black is more adventegous by having a ponnuki at F12 unless he attacks G9 group
Lovro06 [3k\]: W looks good...
ML [3d\]: it´s about a very strong position in the center
Trivia [2k?\]: he will he will
Derrida [?\]: doesnt he attack it right now?
kim777 [-\]: lol
MagicMagor [2k\]: probably because whites territory at the left side nearly vanished
]
;W[ed]C[WVoron [4d\]: b++++
ML [3d\]: b+
Acemi [?\]: ML. the ponnukin and G9 looks like same to my eyes with the D10 group threatening the ponnuki also
basil [3d\]: b still needs to harvest some points
WVoron [4d\]: d16 silt)
wingnoll [11k\]: SE has white +12.5 so yeah b need to hurry and make points
ShusakuSai [8k\]: csaba is a real warrior
ML [3d\]: w will always have problems in the center
MagicMagor [2k\]: or SE needs counting-lessons (like always)
Shaomi [3d\]: i wonder what whites plan is, this position fight doesnt look good to me
basil [3d\]: those problems don't seem like easy territory for b to me
ML [3d\]: e16 good move
fivekiller [3k\]: B      only one move
WVoron [4d\]: e15?
Smilogo [6k\]: b has no territory at the bottom
]
;B[dd]C[fivekiller [3k\]: ohh e15  another choice?
Shakaponk [8k?\]: I prefer B than W
Smilogo [6k\]: this exchange looks not so bad for w
alexanderp [?\]: well, roln will play with breakfast, and Kang is interesting partner/rival
Derrida [?\]: w had to accept anything
alexanderp [?\]: wrong window, sorry
]
;W[fc]
;B[eb]
;W[cc]
;B[ee]
;W[fd]
;B[fe]C[trebleclef [1k\]: looks dangerous 
misha91 [2d\]: b15 
fivekiller [3k\]: I feel B will win at the end
ML [3d\]: not sure
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Hard for me to say
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Too hard
fivekiller [3k\]: even hard for the players  too
ML [3d\]: c14?
fivekiller [3k\]: they are trying their best
kenjiro43 [6k\]: :)
serge417 [1d\]: who's black and who's white?
Suvi [1d\]: see the names
Suvi [1d\]: on top of this chat box
Suvi [1d\]: (ilya shikshin as black and csaba mero as white)
Smilogo [6k\]: overexplained :)
]
;W[fb]C[Hangovers [3k\]: how much yime does the players have left?
]
;B[gd]C[justwhite [-\]: i like f18
kenjiro43 [6k\]: On Kgs I gues they are roln and aromo
Trivia [2k?\]: B center grows some more
Weishenme [4d\]: b9
Neverhood [3k\]: shikshin is a bit ill now. he coughes and seems to be tired... too bad for him, he will lose///
itepilah [1d\]: g15
fivekiller [3k\]: G14 better
fivekiller [3k\]: or  same
iancho [1d\]: b14 looks important
Lovro06 [3k\]: csaba is csaba on KGS
]
;W[be]C[iancho [1d\]: ?
Hangovers [3k\]: now how is b gonna use his thickness?
Cookiex [-\]: ask him
]
;B[bf]
;W[cf]C[kryft [1k\]: In thickness and in health.
]
;B[gb]
;W[db]
;B[gc]
;W[ea]C[Acemi [?\]: he will attack H9 group and use the thickness there to make huge center 
]
;B[bd]
;W[bg]
;B[cd]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: b pretty good
KoReNJe [3d\]: awesome wall
KoReNJe [3d\]: he predicted that while playing g2
taiji [2d\]: big investments
]
;W[bc]C[kryft [1k\]: Wow, amazing influence for black, in sente too.
martin3141 [1d\]: q10 now!!
Moin9 [3k\]: i lik whites kind of play at the moment but i think white has to be carfully about the area around J14 because black has some developing potential there for the centre...hmmR13 shows one way of how the potential could be develop...
Shedal [2d\]: not so amazing
KoReNJe [3d\]: O16
Bauer [1d\]: kill g9 ?
sameasyou [2d\]: k9
KoReNJe [3d\]: or Q14 
KoReNJe [3d\]: center is b's anyway
Moin9 [3k\]: but its still quite open the influence area of black
Acemi [?\]: all the questions will be answered with this move now
Stoneflow [-\]: q10? or r10?
Shedal [2d\]: q10 looks good for me
Shedal [2d\]: *to me
taiji [2d\]: r13
Moin9 [3k\]: i think llia is ill.Poor guy :-(
KoReNJe [3d\]: Q11 good too
taiji [2d\]: yep he is sick, but still haz the power
]
;B[mc]C[play234 [-\]: b super strong position
eatramen [21k\]: nah ilia just gets bored lol
Moppel: will w ever stop with his fan ?
Bauer [1d\]: super move
]
;W[qi]C[Shedal [2d\]: P11
KCN [1k\]: sick play 2
Shedal [2d\]: (would be Takemiya's move)
Moin9 [3k\]: ahh yes quite good. the position was to open but N17 reinforce the area in a very good way for future developing
Syptryn [3d\]: N-17 looks too conservative
Syptryn [3d\]: should have been Q=10
Trivia [2k?\]: P11 is not bad
ML [3d\]: I don´t like n17
Syptryn [3d\]: me niether
Stoneflow [-\]: n17 too small
martin3141 [1d\]: yes, q10 is more ambitious than n17
play234 [-\]: yes i would've played q10 instead also
Syptryn [3d\]: Q10 to apply pressure
Stoneflow [-\]: not whole board perspective like q10
Syptryn [3d\]: to right side
Syptryn [3d\]: and basically kill H-9 stones
Kaas [?\]: q10 is not that good
Veivi [4d\]: i predict b center and topside will be big enough
Moin9 [3k\]: N17= the future meaning depends of the next moves of black. Maybe it become a bad move or it develop in a good way...
]
;B[oi]C[iancho [1d\]: p10 feels good to me
iancho [1d\]: ok same idea
Zahlman [1k\]: I think I'd much prefer b here :)
Kaas [?\]: scrap the think I'd much
Zahlman [1k\]: heh
Kaas [?\]: :)
Zahlman [1k\]: has been leading for a while? looked like b ahead last time I checked too
Stoneflow [-\]: b17 really does not do much, corner still open, and,.g16 group already strong
Zahlman [1k\]: just dropping in, been watching the other one
Stoneflow [-\]: "n17
]
;W[ge]
;B[he]
;W[gf]
;B[ff]
;W[hf]
;B[if]
;W[ie]
;B[hd]C[Zahlman [1k\]: eh I like n17
heywardbey [2d\]: creating aji
Zahlman [1k\]: reinforces that side, helps the moyo
Zahlman [1k\]: this doesn't look like very much aji to me...
Weishenme [4d\]: if B does not see the snap back , W J13 followed by W H12 is possible ...
]
;W[ig]
;B[jf]
;W[hg]C[Zahlman [1k\]: lol, 7d not seeing a snapback?
kryft [1k\]: 'If B does not see the snapback' :P
]
;B[ii]C[Veivi [4d\]: i feel a bit ashamed for even having read that
Trivia [2k?\]: too much weakness for W here
Zahlman [1k\]: I wonder what tricks are up w's sleeve now
Stoneflow [-\]: if helping the moyo is his purpose, i think q10 or 11 is superior. cause r11 hurts the moyo and corner is open
Zahlman [1k\]: seems like they've all fallen out
WVoron [4d\]: b+++
]
;W[jg]
;B[je]C[play234 [-\]: w not looking so great
iancho [1d\]: all seems a bit heavy and uninspired from w
heywardbey [2d\]: meow
fekand3 [1d\]: h11
kenjiro43 [6k\]: is it so bad for white?
ShusakuSai [8k\]: k11
heywardbey [2d\]: sigh
heywardbey [2d\]: if white h9 had one moer liberty
heywardbey [2d\]: he could kill the black group
heywardbey [2d\]: bleh
kukulis4 [2d\]: balck a17
Zahlman [1k\]: kenjiro, w has a couple of weak strands floating in huge b center
martin3141 [1d\]: a17 is gote
heywardbey [2d\]: haha
Zahlman [1k\]: not so much cash and it's mostly sealed in
]
;W[ji]C[Zahlman [1k\]: of course, they are fighting strands...
heywardbey [2d\]: using h9 as aji
Zahlman [1k\]: just j10?
heywardbey [2d\]: bleh
]
;B[jj]C[o3epo [1k\]: EuroGoTV: How much time is left Ilya and Mero? pls
NotAfraid [3d\]: who is artem?
heywardbey [2d\]: wait a sec
heywardbey [2d\]: oh nvm
]
;W[kj]C[ML [3d\]: super move
Neocon [?\]: yes..how much time?
mobese [4d\]: Ilia 5-5 win or lose?
ShusakuSai [8k\]: what is the result of thomas debarre against viktor lin ?
jjermann [5d?\]: L11?
heywardbey [2d\]: viktor lin is my brother
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: b has 42min w has 28min
]
;B[ki]C[o3epo [1k\]: thanks
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thomas won
Neocon [?\]: this game will last 6 hours..crazy
yamashitaK [5d\]: shit
Neocon [?\]: if go to end
Shakaponk [8k?\]: 5
Joakim [13k\]: game over?
A1R [4k\]: thomas has a streak
ShusakuSai [8k\]: no defeats for thomas actually, infortunately he missed the first round
]
;W[li]
;B[kh]
;W[kg]
;B[lh]
;W[jd]C[heywardbey [2d\]: oh i see
danigabi [5d\]: yes but because of that he also got easier opponents
heywardbey [2d\]: if it goes how i think its gonna go.. white has a chance
danigabi [5d\]: anyone know how Ali Jabarin is doing vs JeongHyeop?
Bazilikan [2k\]: link?
Ignatius [1k\]: ali lose
A1R [4k\]: ali lost i heard
Q161 [?\]: jigo
Bazilikan [2k\]: aww
danigabi [5d\]: oh so quickly ? :(
danigabi [5d\]: tough game though
Joakim [13k\]: l16?
Joakim [13k\]: L i mean
Q161 [?\]: dont write on goban!!
Q161 [?\]: gah
heywardbey [2d\]: l16 is okay i guess
jim [6d\]: this move works so good
Bazilikan [2k\]: is eurogotv down for anyone?
heywardbey [2d\]: white still has a chance now
heywardbey [2d\]: or at least look good dying :)
jim [6d\]: still is not corect, white have first chance now
Dino9 [6d\]: l16
GoIsBoring [2d\]: l16 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
danigabi [5d\]: what a great start for illya
WVoron [4d\]: l16
ogre [2d?\]: wow this game is still in middlegame
ogre [2d?\]: early middlegame
jim [6d\]: If L16, white L15, then K12
Dino9 [6d\]: so what then jim?
ShusakuSai [8k\]: what about laura avram against catalin ?
jim [6d\]: next white?
jim [6d\]: after K12
Dino9 [6d\]: no next black now
jim [6d\]: next black sorry
knupsi [4d\]: must defend h10
jim [6d\]: if h10, white K17
Goliamus [6k\]: ilya ill
ogre [2d?\]: wow that ko went great for b. also delayed game progress :D
knupsi [4d\]: yes i know
hylie [4d\]: This looks really difficult for white.
knupsi [4d\]: more difficult for b
]
;B[jh]C[hylie [4d\]: Sorry, meant b.
Julian1 [2d\]: o.O
Syptryn [3d\]: what if black deosn't capture?
kenjiro43 [6k\]: B is ill
hylie [4d\]: b has got to kill.
Syptryn [3d\]: what can white do?
hylie [4d\]: and live.
kenjiro43 [6k\]: so he has some really good excuse
danigabi [5d\]: w j16
heywardbey [2d\]: O_O
knupsi [4d\]: w captures some thing
jim [6d\]: K17
heywardbey [2d\]: k17
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: is EuroGoTV.com down?
danigabi [5d\]: i think k17 lets h16 too many libs
JanHao [2d\]: one more ponnuki for black :)
hylie [4d\]: W is going to capture the world.
danigabi [5d\]: J16 looks proper
Bauer [1d\]: w captures a lot
soulangel [3d\]: no the steam is on
Syptryn [3d\]: j16 looks like it shatters black
taiji [2d\]: b seems hard to handle
danigabi [5d\]: b sacrificies h16 stones
kenjiro43 [6k\]: 30 pints JanHao
danigabi [5d\]: but encloses the center
JanHao [2d\]: :))
A1R [4k\]: the fan is annoying!
WVoron [4d\]: афигеть...
kenjiro43 [6k\]: :))
Syptryn [3d\]: center not that big...
jim [6d\]: K17 and game over
danigabi [5d\]: next black wants to make complications with R12
heywardbey [2d\]: nvm i think j16 works
heywardbey [2d\]: better
JanHao [2d\]: 30 pts but the same points that first
JanHao [2d\]: so korigatachi
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Yeap
danigabi [5d\]: K17 -> M14
jjermann [5d?\]: J16
ML [3d\]: yes
bartosz [1d\]: isnt j16 obvious?
heywardbey [2d\]: k17 looked sexy
Karnesun [5d\]: l16 
jjermann [5d?\]: Not L15
jjermann [5d?\]: l15 is very good for b
heywardbey [2d\]: but white doesnt have libs to do it
taiji [2d\]: just reading everything
danigabi [5d\]: the greedy move is L16 
heywardbey [2d\]: i like how kenjiros the only kyu talking
WVoron [4d\]: b+++
ogre [2d?\]: is ilia have a cold?
taiji [2d\]: illia seems about to die
heywardbey [2d\]: u mean does*
taiji [2d\]: at h16
kenjiro43 [6k\]: C'mon another kyu, pls
hottttttt: l15 ?
Lake [11k\]: b will rock
Zahlman [1k\]: ilya has a fever, and the only prescription is more captures
heywardbey [2d\]: .... not l15
Weishenme [4d\]: k17 ?
danigabi [5d\]: not about to, that group will die
jjermann [5d?\]: L16 is too much
jjermann [5d?\]: I think
ogre [2d?\]: its not good to criticize kyu for talking about game
danigabi [5d\]: id j16 no thinking
kenjiro43 [6k\]: heywardbey, there are another kyu's speaking
jjermann [5d?\]: yeah
kenjiro43 [6k\]: so...
kenjiro43 [6k\]: :)
Dino9 [6d\]: j16 enough
eatramen [21k\]: i just noticed the letter i isnt used in the alphabetical labelling, is that to prevent confusion with l
knupsi [4d\]: j16 looks honte
heywardbey [2d\]: wow a 1k >.>
heywardbey [2d\]: pretty much a dan haha
jjermann [5d?\]: B K18 then?
JanHao [2d\]: j16 looks honest
danigabi [5d\]: w did a great sabaki
taiji [2d\]: w is torturing b
danigabi [5d\]: then h18
kenjiro43 [6k\]: and an 11 k
jjermann [5d?\]: ok
heywardbey [2d\]: see i said white would survive
heywardbey [2d\]: = =
feyodora [15k\]: why do ilya wear same tshirt as yesterday when he play kang?
shikashogi [10k\]: lucky shirt?
kenjiro43 [6k\]: luck?
feyodora [15k\]: ooow
iancho [1d\]: l16 looks good to me
danigabi [5d\]: he spent the night with a girl
feyodora [15k\]: lol
feyodora [15k\]: cute shirt
rockl [3k\]: why not j16 ?
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Good point
wasd [6d\]: l16 
danigabi [5d\]: i knew someone would like L16
hottttttt: why not l15?
ogre [2d?\]: i feel sorry for ilia
kukulis4 [2d\]: wow
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Ilia noot finished
]
;W[ke]C[ogre [2d?\]: he have good position in tornament and have to get sick like this
]
;B[jb]C[jjermann [5d?\]: what??
jjermann [5d?\]: I dont get L15
Syptryn [3d\]: errr
Moin9 [3k\]: hmm
ogre [2d?\]: but he have to tough it out like a pro
Hideko [2k\]: I guess winning against Kang was more than Iliya could take
Dino9 [6d\]: aw
Syptryn [3d\]: what was rong with J-16?
jjermann [5d?\]: this feels very good for b
danigabi [5d\]: mm
danigabi [5d\]: if j16
danigabi [5d\]: maybe w fearead black J17
heywardbey [2d\]: wow seriously l15?
Dino9 [6d\]: why not K17 then?
NschoTschi [-\]: k18 relaxed
jjermann [5d?\]: but like this w is not even alive
danigabi [5d\]: dunno
heywardbey [2d\]: ....
Moppel: mr bean is watching ?
Syptryn [3d\]: mmm
adiida [3k\]: j11 white?
jim [6d\]: L18 is ok
Hideko [2k\]: what has w done?
jim [6d\]: for white
Bauer [1d\]: w error, i think
Syptryn [3d\]: I can't read anything bad with J-16
heywardbey [2d\]: absoulteyl nothing
Dino9 [6d\]: yes jim, but could be better
NschoTschi [-\]: Is Ilya still coughing?
danigabi [5d\]: b gets very strong at that sacrifice
Draxt [3k\]: j17 ?
heywardbey [2d\]: eat l14 right now?
heywardbey [2d\]: actaully no
jim [6d\]: well , is enought like this also
]
;W[kb]C[hngryhippo [3k\]: j16 seems sente
]
;B[kc]C[jjermann [5d?\]: b can still connect
danigabi [5d\]: enough to what?
heywardbey [2d\]: oh i see.
jjermann [5d?\]: and w not alive yet
heywardbey [2d\]: nvm im lost.
jjermann [5d?\]: I dont like this at all for w
]
;W[jc]
;B[kd]C[heywardbey [2d\]: eat
heywardbey [2d\]: only choice
Draxt [3k\]: j18 
NschoTschi [-\]: are they in Byoyomi already?
danigabi [5d\]: oh..
jjermann [5d?\]: what was w thinking
WVoron [4d\]: lol jim
Kanin [-\]: ilia is a monster
blitz99: j17?
danigabi [5d\]: disaster
ogre [2d?\]: i think b got lucky
leito [1k\]: who won the other game ?
jjermann [5d?\]: J17 J18
]
;W[kf]C[Hideko [2k\]: Kang!
Excalibor [-\]: Kang
Syptryn [3d\]: j18 ?
heywardbey [2d\]: ya caleld it
Excalibor [-\]: W+1.5
heywardbey [2d\]: ;)
shrike [3k\]: shape of W not alive yet
leito [1k\]: thanks
heywardbey [2d\]: sadly not.
NschoTschi [-\]: j18 
ogre [2d?\]: w not even alive yet
heywardbey [2d\]: yes we know
Backflash: EuroGo tell us their time pls.
ML [3d\]: w has n16
]
;B[ib]C[jjermann [5d?\]: well w is easily alive
Hideko [2k\]: m15
jjermann [5d?\]: but not alive yet
]
;W[lb]C[go1d [4d\]: n16 
Zahlman [1k\]: doesn't seem so easy to me
heywardbey [2d\]: O>O
ogre [2d?\]: yes easily but its not good as being already alive
Syptryn [3d\]: ?
heywardbey [2d\]: oh
Syptryn [3d\]: what is this
jim [6d\]: game over
jim [6d\]: ladder ok for white
NschoTschi [-\]: Danger danger!
taiji [2d\]: w seems very ahead
danigabi [5d\]: what ladder
]
;B[md]C[jjermann [5d?\]: N16 possible?
Syptryn [3d\]: what ladder..
blitz99: ??
heywardbey [2d\]: n16 ladder
vdsvsd: lol wasn't everyone whinig how bad w is, a while ago?
jim [6d\]: well with center stones
Bazilikan [2k\]: eurogotv
WVoron [4d\]: game over for you jim not for b
blitz99: jim smoking wrong stuff?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
jim [6d\]: hehe
Zahlman [1k\]: w still bad imo
Syptryn [3d\]: errr
Bazilikan [2k\]: for some reason i can get to the live stream
Zahlman [1k\]: can't find a 2nd eye
Syptryn [3d\]: whtie just helped black fix aji
Syptryn [3d\]: congrats white
danigabi [5d\]: i think he meant with white H11
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: eurogotv down for some reason
jjermann [5d?\]: it feels like game over for w
pilaf [3d\]: w way under estimate the opponent
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the server that runs eurogotv is down
vdsvsd: i doubt that
heywardbey [2d\]: m18 wat the hell
Am [5d\]: h18 is unpleasant
Bazilikan [2k\]: ah
jim [6d\]: h18
NschoTschi [-\]: wanna get j16 sente?
Ula [1d\]: well it's still broadcasting for those who are connected
heywardbey [2d\]: only hope
ogre [2d?\]: h18
heywardbey [2d\]: h18- 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
blitz99: o18?
ogre [2d?\]: u gys are fast with the tesujis
jim [6d\]: but first N 18
]
;W[me]C[jim [6d\]: oh
heywardbey [2d\]: lawl
Syptryn [3d\]: n18 
maze [5d\]: eurogotv do you know if Ali won?
WVoron [4d\]: h18 is nothing
blitz99: lost
danigabi [5d\]: ali lost 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ali lost
Morla [5d\]: h18 is nothing
heywardbey [2d\]: nothing
heywardbey [2d\]: we lost all hope
NschoTschi [-\]: r they in Byo-yomi now?
maze [5d\]: ty
ben0 [5d\]: h18 is a ko
heywardbey [2d\]: its over
ogre [2d?\]: h18 not make ko?
wither [5k\]: ilya has a shirt now ?
heywardbey [2d\]: we're all gonna die
pilaf [3d\]: h18 the g 19
jim [6d\]: what Csaba doing
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no byo yomi yet
play234 [-\]: lol ilya looks like rudolf
jim [6d\]: it was white game
danigabi [5d\]: N18 safe
jim [6d\]: N18, O18, then cut
]
;B[mb]C[WVoron [4d\]: he is going to hell)
smoothjazz [1k\]: w h18
heywardbey [2d\]: >.>
heywardbey [2d\]: h18 useless now
heywardbey [2d\]: definitely
danigabi [5d\]: w trouble
smoothjazz [1k\]: yep
danigabi [5d\]: black will get lots of profit with r12 soon
WVoron [4d\]: b+r
Am [5d\]: n18 is very usefull against h18
]
;W[ne]C[pilaf [3d\]: g19 would like h18 useless
mobese [4d\]: l15 was mistake..l16 better
NschoTschi [-\]: r15 ?
ogre [2d?\]: someone bring ilia some medicine
blitz99: maybe w can pull a rabbit out of his hat 
Am [5d\]: q14 ?
ogre [2d?\]: not intoxicating kind.. tho
]
;B[od]C[Draxt [3k\]: q13 
ogre [2d?\]: he could use a lozenge
Bazilikan [2k\]: when will the server be back up?
iancho [1d\]: tragic really, w faught so hard to blow his best chance
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i dont know
Am [5d\]: time to keep advantage  :-)
iancho [1d\]: fought*
pilaf [3d\]: B R5 then w resigns
]
;W[nh]C[ogre [2d?\]: usgo are you allowed to give the player a lozenge?
Julian1 [2d\]: time left for both players?
]
;B[oh]C[ogre [2d?\]: sory
ogre [2d?\]: eurogo
NschoTschi [-\]: b so flexible
blitz99: p14
ogre [2d?\]: i got mixed up cause there is usgo on also today and yesterday
A1R [4k\]: who has 10min left?
taiji [2d\]: was that the talking ing clock?
ogre [2d?\]: yea they hit byo yomi
A1R [4k\]: yes
Ula [1d\]: w 10 min left
ogre [2d?\]: soon
Julian1 [2d\]: and b?
ogre [2d?\]: its going to start talking alot
Julian1 [2d\]: it's all about b's time left i think
]
;W[mh]C[ThePoint [2d\]: Ilya should wear a mask,his opponents become ill too
ogre [2d?\]: he is properly covering his mouth
]
;B[lg]C[markwebb [5k\]: his rocking is very annoying
Syptryn [3d\]: r-10 looks handy later
danigabi [5d\]: b will destroy r9 space
jjermann [5d?\]: it's hunting season
danigabi [5d\]: in this attack
kenjiro43 [6k\]: strange
danigabi [5d\]: this game is over
blitz99: n13
]
;W[mg]C[jim [6d\]: J16 and alive
IceSpectre [4k\]: m14 m15 p14  ?
Syptryn [3d\]: yikes P-13 now sente
blitz99: p14
]
;B[lf]C[jjermann [5d?\]: J16 and K14
]
;W[le]C[jjermann [5d?\]: not alive
]
;B[lj]C[jjermann [5d?\]: H18 b can G19
jim [6d\]: after J16 H18 works again
ogre [2d?\]: yes j16 is sente with h18 threat
Syptryn [3d\]: eh
]
;W[mj]C[Moppel: what would have happened after wh18 instead of o15 ?
]
;B[mi]C[Syptryn [3d\]: I would p-13///
]
;W[ni]
;B[nj]
;W[li]C[jjermann [5d?\]: jim: I dont see it working for w?
Syptryn [3d\]: p13 
]
;B[mf]C[jim [6d\]: take
lamalama: oops
]
;W[nf]
;B[mi]C[vdsvsd: how do i turn back moves in this ui?
Dino9 [6d\]: H11
jim [6d\]: H11
jim [6d\]: yes
Syptryn [3d\]: hmmm
zife [6k\]: vdsvsd you gotta view offline
Syptryn [3d\]: white in trouble
blitz99: m16
purun [5k\]: turnback? view offline maybe
Syptryn [3d\]: q14 
kenjiro43 [6k\]: yeap
A1R [4k\]: they should wash the stones after the game :P
ogre [2d?\]: b has a godo threat
A1R [4k\]: clean*
bobstep [8k\]: clone game
ogre [2d?\]: i mean w
]
;W[ld]
;B[lc]
;W[li]
;B[kk]C[ogre [2d?\]: i dont like m16
blitz99: p10
jim [6d\]: M16 lose eyes
ogre [2d?\]: now w must make eye
lamalama: m16 was small, wasn´t it
NorthWind [5k\]: yeah, in disinfectant
Syptryn [3d\]: o?!?!?
Syptryn [3d\]: white no p-13?!
ogre [2d?\]: no m16 ajikeshi
Syptryn [3d\]: why
jjermann [5d?\]: jim: no w only had one 1
IceSpectre [4k\]: p13 enough ? 
jjermann [5d?\]: one eye
kukulis4 [2d\]: p13
happydog [7k\]: ponnuki field buildup initiated
just9x9 [-\]: who won on board 2?
jjermann [5d?\]: J16 K14 H18 G19?
Kratzdrink [1d\]: kang
feyodora [15k\]: kaang
just9x9 [-\]: thx, how nice
A1R [4k\]: b going for kill?
ogre [2d?\]: great game. board 2
kukulis4 [2d\]: ah, N11 atari
Silencieux [-\]: 3.5
ogre [2d?\]: b made yose blunder
blitz99: p10
taiji [2d\]: b didn't have a single tea or anything for his cough
ogre [2d?\]: n9?
mihi [6d\]: K17 better than L15?
FangFa [2d\]: he was behind anyway
A1R [4k\]: w in byoyomi?
Moppel: b using sandpaper for his nose ?
WVoron [4d\]: b+10-15
ogre [2d?\]: w stil has a threat at h11
ogre [2d?\]: or h12
NorthWind [5k\]: oh the clock started talking :-o
ogre [2d?\]: i guess h12?
Isobeutel [4k\]: in sowjet russia they use sandpaper
Bazilikan [2k\]: wvoron isnt that w + 5?
hgh01 [16k\]: hi what was the result on board 2 ?  thx
kenjiro43 [6k\]: a clock talking?
WVoron [4d\]: no))
kenjiro43 [6k\]: bad sign
kenjiro43 [6k\]: :D
Bazilikan [2k\]: ._.
Julian1 [2d\]: kang won on board 2
Unefoix [1k\]: Kang win by 3.5 hgh01
nanok [?\]: hgh01: w+3.5
hgh01 [16k\]: thank you
ogre [2d?\]: ilia needs some really hot pepper vodka. will make his cough go away
Moin9 [3k\]: his nose is really red...
nanok [?\]: ogre: his lungs, too, along with it
Karnesun [5d\]: p10 
]
;W[nk]C[WVoron [4d\]: k12 was amazing
]
;B[oj]
;W[lk]C[IceSpectre [4k\]: why not p13 ? 
]
;B[mi]
;W[hi]
;B[hh]C[ogre [2d?\]: p13 is die
Morphe1234: 1
Bazilikan [2k\]: aah if the server was up that would have been a free vip point
mythical [1k\]: i guess he doesnt wants to hurt his r 11 stone?
jjermann [5d?\]: p13 makes the ko less good for b
o3epo [1k\]: How to play Artem and Burzo
]
;W[li]C[Karnesun [5d\]: Артем +
Karnesun [5d\]: )
nanotech [2k\]: p10 for w was safe
Karnesun [5d\]: выиграл)
]
;B[kj]
;W[mi]C[MoeTheDoom [5k\]: как динер сыграл?
]
;B[og]C[ogre [2d?\]: after now w can p13 but not before
Karnesun [5d\]: Динер проиграл 3,5
Dino9 [6d\]: Artem won?
]
;W[ng]
;B[ok]C[ogre [2d?\]: cause of n9 unprotected
GoIsBoring [3d\]: r6 was a treat, wasn't it?
Julian1 [2d\]: result for b more than satisfying =.=
]
;W[nd]C[tapir [2d\]: is the second board finished already? which result?
Bazilikan [2k\]: kang won
feyodora [15k\]: kang
jjermann [5d?\]: is that even sente?
GoIsBoring [3d\]: korean girl won
NschoTschi [-\]: o8 ?
lamalama: looks b+ everything
adiida [3k\]: what about catalin taranu?
sohigh [1k\]: o8 
Bazilikan [2k\]: o8 ?
pilaf [3d\]: w play a lot aji kill moves
blitz99: gote and resign
WVoron [4d\]: b+r
Karnesun [5d\]: Taranu?
maze [5d\]: o17 p17 q17 ?
blitz99: r9
adiida [3k\]: yeah ... what did he do?
IceSpectre [4k\]: r13 :)
just9x9 [-\]: splitting there is huge though id say
jjermann [5d?\]: b needs to decide whether he wants to kill all or defend
ML [3d\]: defend
Hideko [2k\]: kill all sounds like a sound policy
ogre [2d?\]: i think the oposite hideko
Karnesun [5d\]: Чаба что-то жует
Karnesun [5d\]: )
IceSpectre [4k\]: kill sounds like bloodarena idea :D 
taiji [2d\]: count to decide
Bauer [1d\]: kill is a sound policy
Bazilikan [2k\]: o8 important
jjermann [5d?\]: O8 wants to get all
Unefoix [1k\]: it looks sente, o18m19 o17 l19 r17 can be the follow up
taiji [2d\]: safer to not kill
tapir [2d\]: anyone knows sth about thomas debarre vs. viktor lin result?
jjermann [5d?\]: but if you O8 and you can't kill it is probably not a good move
ShusakuSai [8k\]: thomas won
nay4ok [2d?\]: is he doing it with his fan? this annoying sound?
]
;B[ob]C[jjermann [5d?\]: of course if you O8 and w response then it is perfect but w will certainly not respond
feyodora [15k\]: oooh
feyodora [15k\]: defend
westside [2k?\]: ni hao
taiji [2d\]: b feels up
sohigh [1k\]: he is aware of his lead
kukulis4 [2d\]: white O8 the only move ?
lemurov [2k\]: забавно, илья играет белыми, но часы под правую руку - часа левша
jjermann [5d?\]: R14?
Karnesun [5d\]: да
sohigh [1k\]: r14 is strong
lemurov [2k\]: *илья играет черными
Karnesun [5d\]: Чаба*
Karnesun [5d\]: )
eatramen [21k\]: i dont think ilia gets much sleep, that or adhd lol
]
;W[nl]C[taiji [2d\]: r5 is very big one day
jjermann [5d?\]: b should defend again
ogre [2d?\]: not time for r5
ogre [2d?\]: r13
blitz99: r9
sohigh [1k\]: r9 
pilaf [3d\]: boo for w
jjermann [5d?\]: R12 maybe dunno
Isobeutel [4k\]: r9 
Bazilikan [2k\]: r9 is big
ML [3d\]: r13
Draxt [3k\]: r9 
taiji [2d\]: r13
WVoron [4d\]: r13 enough
pilaf [3d\]: no fighting spirit
knupsi [4d\]: r13
maze [5d\]: r13 better than r9
ogre [2d?\]: r13 w r9 b r5
blitz99: enough is not enough
nay4ok [2d?\]: seriously,,, what is this snapping sound??
Fredegas [4d\]: right, end it with r13
jjermann [5d?\]: R12 to defend in sente?
purun [5k\]: r9
Stoneflow [-\]: now i do c the use of n17
Am [5d\]: r13 have to be enough
Draxt [3k\]: m8 
pilaf [3d\]: w should q14
Bazilikan [2k\]: your so ungreedy
Isobeutel [4k\]: i think its a fan, opened and closed quickly
ogre [2d?\]: r13 r9 r5 
IceSpectre [4k\]: r13 ? 
kukulis4 [2d\]: black R13 enough ?
jjermann [5d?\]: what do you play against R12?
Bazilikan [2k\]: eurogotv are they even aware the server is down?
jjermann [5d?\]: S12?
jjermann [5d?\]: then R13
ogre [2d?\]: b r13 also gets to play r5 right?
ogre [2d?\]: you get both moves
ogre [2d?\]: looks great
NschoTschi [-\]: r9 really seems good enough
jjermann [5d?\]: after this Q14 is no more peep
jjermann [5d?\]: if you R13 then Q14 is a peep
Onibaka [4k\]: r9 :P
Bazilikan [2k\]: s5 
Fredegas [4d\]: on r13, white will play in corner
pilaf [3d\]: i said b r5 and w resigns
Fredegas [4d\]: he wont save r11 
jjermann [5d?\]: R12
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i dont know as i cannot reach them as the server is down
ogre [2d?\]: ok
Am [5d\]: r13  - wr9    m8  w n9   r5  b is leading a lot
Ula [1d\]: b is ccounting
Bazilikan [2k\]: ._.
]
;B[qg]C[ogre [2d?\]: w cant go r9 even better. 
Goliamus [6k\]: ustream is ok
LovroKlc [2k\]: B R13 strong
Bazilikan [2k\]: ._..
LovroKlc [2k\]: oh
ogre [2d?\]: w must play corner
lemurov [2k\]: до этого илья  считал очки
nay4ok [2d?\]: it's so annoying when you're trying to concentrate
purun [5k\]: ah
ogre [2d?\]: r3
]
;W[qk]C[Bazilikan [2k\]: r5 ?
]
;B[ll]C[Bazilikan [2k\]: oh
mayflowerx [1d\]: r4
IceSpectre [4k\]: n3 also looks good
ogre [2d?\]: ok b wins big 
Tristero [2d\]: b ahead
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: even the EuroGoTV mail doesnt work anymore
Ula [1d\]: the sound is annoying ? what about ilya moving on his chair and coughing all the time ^
]
;W[mk]C[play234 [-\]: seems no way w can win now, b too solid everywhere
mihi [6d\]: R5
ogre [2d?\]: b r5 now
SpaceCow [2k\]: tournaments are like that ula^^
blitz99: r4
NschoTschi [-\]: m2 first?
Bazilikan [2k\]: j12 seems big
]
;B[qo]C[nanotech [2k\]: /
]
;W[qn]
;B[ro]C[NschoTschi [-\]: s5
SpaceCow [2k\]: it gets worse even
ML [3d\]: w might s15
Draxt [3k\]: p8 
Am [5d\]: comfortable win for b
Smilogo [6k\]: it`s a battle: cough against fan
ThiGar [5k\]: Am had the whole sequence
ogre [2d?\]: what how s15 is a move?
jjermann [5d?\]: R12 is very big for b
]
;W[rg]C[nay4ok [2d?\]: ilya is sick but that guy's doing it on purpose
mythical [1k\]: wonder where W hopes get his points
Veivi [4d\]: when really concentrating on the game, you don't really notice all the small things happening around
Ula [1d\]: correct
]
;B[rf]
;W[rh]C[Trivia [2k?\]: ilya being sick reduced his rocking?
jjermann [5d?\]: b defend and game over?
SpaceCow [2k\]: i had a guy once whop had way to much garlic or something...
pilaf [3d\]: game long over
]
;B[qe]C[SpaceCow [2k\]: try and play that
Smilogo [6k\]: u cannot concentrate 6 hours
jim [6d\]: S6
DrZoom [4k\]: if white would play j12, then black has to kill g9 ... this were 10 points I think.
jim [6d\]: white still in the game
OWNAGE [2d\]: what is that sound
Bazilikan [2k\]: smilogo illya can
Am [5d\]: about 10pnts ahead b
mythical [1k\]: o 3 area now?
DrZoom [4k\]: I see
Am [5d\]: b9 is big
ogre [2d?\]: that is the clock reading byo yomi
Veivi [4d\]: i don't think you are up for being a 7-dan if you cannot concentrate for 6 hours when need be
]
;W[rn]C[Am [5d\]: bigger then n3 
ThiGar [5k\]: in retrospect, was there a losing white move?
Smilogo [6k\]: nobody can, u hear the sounds
taiji [2d\]: clock is reading plato
ogolony [-\]: m2 
jim [6d\]: Csaba is good in yose
eatramen [21k\]: imagine minks playing go, they must sit in one spot for almost a day
blitz99: yes b3
jjermann [5d?\]: R4 here?
eatramen [21k\]: /*monks
Trivia [2k?\]: minks works too
FreeDoom [?\]: s3
eatramen [21k\]: lol 
]
;B[lr]C[Sven84 [3k\]: m2
mythical [1k\]: now game over  :)
eatramen [21k\]: that would be a sight to see
jjermann [5d?\]: nice kikashi
ogre [2d?\]: b relentless
blitz99: m3
GreatHall: how much time left for the players?
]
;W[qp]C[Ula [1d\]: w in byo yomi it seems
Bazilikan [2k\]: big ko
Hideko [2k\]: ko!
Lirma [17k\]: hello
NschoTschi [-\]: medium sized ko
Tahta [2k\]: do j12 sente, if black tenuki white j10
FreeDoom [?\]: l2 +o6 bigger
Draxt [3k\]: r3 
NschoTschi [-\]: s4 
ogre [2d?\]: b can sac in sente and l2
ogolony [-\]: s4 
]
;B[om]C[mythical [1k\]: just l 2
Hellhuman [1d\]: wtf
jim [6d\]: well this is to early
Hellhuman [1d\]: :D
jjermann [5d?\]: omg
NschoTschi [-\]: nice
Bazilikan [2k\]: a cut!
Draxt [3k\]: yeah
Am [5d\]: p7 !!
NschoTschi [-\]: tesuji time
jjermann [5d?\]: ilia doesnt know how to win a won game?
Draxt [3k\]: sente Q4
play234 [-\]: :O
pilaf [3d\]: b double the bbet
knupsi [4d\]: o6
Am [5d\]: he is preparing a big ko for w
jjermann [5d?\]: I can see that
]
;W[ol]C[Am [5d\]: p7 pro level move
go1d [4d\]: yes
jjermann [5d?\]: what if he missed a w tesuji
ogre [2d?\]: q4 now
Hellhuman [1d\]: there is nothing like a pro lvl move
jjermann [5d?\]: that's not how to win a won game is it?
weiqidevil [-\]: What's wrong with it?
Am [5d\]: jjerman>  yes!
weak5k [3k\]: now q6 sente for b
Bazilikan [2k\]: winning by .5 isnt as glorius as winning by 7 thousand jjermann
taiji [2d\]: I would back down at s4
jjermann [5d?\]: eg now moves aournd N6 area are less sente
StefanRadu [1k\]: ce a facut catalin?
yosogo [1d\]: s4 is big
Am [5d\]: what about time left&
humility [4d\]: w has big threats like j12 but still it looks hard to play the ko
Am [5d\]: ?
avio [2d\]: Catain cu Laura?
Hellhuman [1d\]: who won, korean girl or dienerchstein
Hellhuman [1d\]: ?
StefanRadu [1k\]: kang
Fredegas [4d\]: laura won
Hideko [2k\]: girlie
Hellhuman [1d\]: hehe
jjermann [5d?\]: S4l Q4 or L2?
ShusakuSai [8k\]: laura won ?
Bazilikan [2k\]: p7 is a pro level move in that i dont get it at all
Am [5d\]: ilya is counting ko threats  :-)
Am [5d\]: in wiinig position  :-)
avio [2d\]: joke
ShusakuSai [8k\]: ahhh
Fredegas [4d\]: kidding, I dont know :)
Hideko [2k\]: I would happlily play q4 if I was w
Fredegas [4d\]: but I hope in that
ogre [2d?\]: its not w move
Hideko [2k\]: lol
avio [2d\]: I hate huge top groups
Am [5d\]: he will make same...  but in very differet decision  :-)
Alternate [?\]: r3 will do
go1d [4d\]: s4 
Bazilikan [2k\]: illya places so efficiantly he may as well play to moves at once
Bazilikan [2k\]: 2*
yosogo [1d\]: is there anyone know how many time they still have
weak5k [3k\]: b read threats
iancho [1d\]: w has a lot of ko threats
Shesck [12k\]: the game is still running?@!
nabil [8k\]: hey why not w play j12 ?
FreeDoom [?\]: i don't see threat for b
taiji [2d\]: gote
Bazilikan [2k\]: because its only like 5 points
ogre [2d?\]: w short on libs to make j12
ogre [2d?\]: yea its a semedori
Syptryn [3d\]: nice move
nabil [8k\]: it kills all f13 no?
ogre [2d?\]: count the libs nabil
basil [3d\]: i've been watching this game for how many hours now?
Bazilikan [2k\]: 5
Shesck [12k\]: lol
Unefoix [1k\]: but j12 is sente for white, he will play it later for sure
]
;B[ac]C[Bazilikan [2k\]: hmm
jjermann [5d?\]: nice
taiji [2d\]: tenuki?!
jjermann [5d?\]: W should B18
FreeDoom [?\]: well this is sente
ogre [2d?\]: this is good sente
KoReNJe [3d\]: it's not sente
Draxt [3k\]: it's not
Bazilikan [2k\]: doesnt looks like sente
]
;W[bb]C[Trivia [2k?\]: this voice is annoying
Bazilikan [2k\]: now it is
Am [5d\]: Kor< not sente&&
Draxt [3k\]: l2 
Hideko [2k\]: w thinks its sente
FreeDoom [?\]: what part of killing a group is not sente?
Am [5d\]: he-he!
taiji [2d\]: goood exchange
Bazilikan [2k\]: free doom a17 a18 a16 
yosogo [1d\]: w do not have to react
Am [5d\]: not only sente< but big sente yose  :-)
jjermann [5d?\]: it was sente
yosogo [1d\]: r3 is bigger
Eilinen [-\]: b's leading?
KoReNJe [3d\]: yose sente handofgod move?
jjermann [5d?\]: S4 or Q4 or L2?
jjermann [5d?\]: or something else?
]
;B[ih]C[KoReNJe [3d\]: hmm I speak go
ogre [2d?\]: hum
Bazilikan [2k\]: good bye semidori
jjermann [5d?\]: something else it is
FreeDoom [?\]: b choose to simply mantain lead
ogre [2d?\]: i guess its worth points
Draxt [3k\]: l2 
Doby [6k\]: sorry that Ilia is sick,  but must he cough on every stone ?
KoReNJe [3d\]: r3
humility [4d\]: this move makes me a fan of b
Hideko [2k\]: q4
FreeDoom [?\]: if l2 play ko, if s4 l2
Unefoix [1k\]: it's like 6 or 7 points reverse sente
jjermann [5d?\]: it is very consistent
KoReNJe [3d\]: m3 
o3epo [1k\]: How to play Artem and Burzu?
]
;W[rp]C[Bazilikan [2k\]: the only move big enough for w is to resign
kenjiro43 [6k\]: Burzo
taiji [2d\]: surely j12 was unnecessary
taiji [2d\]: and not very big?
o3epo [1k\]: thanks
Alternate [?\]: what abaout b9
ogre [2d?\]: l2?
Am [5d\]: yes, burzo lost
jjermann [5d?\]: M4?
Unefoix [1k\]: j12 was sente for white
Hideko [2k\]: J12 is how to win a won game
codelyoko [5d\]: l2 too big
jjermann [5d?\]: M3 L2?
yosogo [1d\]: s4 is tremendous big
Syptryn [3d\]: l2 ?
IceSpectre [4k\]: j12 is 7 points gote and about 8 ko threats gone for w 
Syptryn [3d\]: s2 ?
]
;B[kr]C[Bazilikan [2k\]: a1 is very small
jjermann [5d?\]: L2 I would be afraid w tries a fight
Unefoix [1k\]: j12 7 points reverse sente
Hideko [2k\]: B9
yosogo [1d\]: a1 is big
Unefoix [1k\]: if white j12 tenuki j10 make a big ko
Am [5d\]: n6 is very dig now
Am [5d\]: big**
]
;W[mn]C[Draxt [3k\]: o6 
Bazilikan [2k\]: not for black
maze [5d\]: b9 
codelyoko [5d\]: m5 
yosogo [1d\]: m5 is only move
NschoTschi [-\]: b9 becoming big
QuiGonJinn [3k\]: or n5?
Am [5d\]: 64 -w
yosogo [1d\]: and for b
]
;B[rr]
;W[bk]C[QuiGonJinn [3k\]: ?!?
ogolony [-\]: m5 
Am [5d\]: 73-75 b
NschoTschi [-\]: m5 good
ML [3d\]: b lead not that big anymore
FangFa [2d\]: komi?
NschoTschi [-\]: Am did you include komi
Draxt [3k\]: is M5 really worth much points for black?
SpaceCow [2k\]: shouldnt w resign?
profi [2d\]: m5 
ogre [2d?\]: m5 keeps w from saving l2 stone
knupsi [4d\]: hmm 10 points if am count is right
yosogo [1d\]: maybe j12 is not a good move
Alternate [?\]: m5
taiji [2d\]: Am, is w-64 with komi?
]
;B[mp]C[Bazilikan [2k\]: its always the person who plays tengen who wins, weird
Am [5d\]: yes
DrZoom [4k\]: As I can see, black won for sure, isn't it?
Syptryn [3d\]: B+5
SpaceCow [2k\]: yes
jjermann [5d?\]: b had the definite lead atm
ogre [2d?\]: well. i guess maybe the move for w would have been n3
taiji [2d\]:  its a clear win for b
jjermann [5d?\]: so w needs a tesuji
ogolony [-\]: m5 
maze [5d\]: w has 67+komi
nanok [?\]: bazilikan: was this game opened on tengen?!
Am [5d\]: yea...  chines draw tessuji  :-)
]
;W[nc]
;B[nb]C[Bazilikan [2k\]: umm no i think
IceSpectre [4k\]: q4 for b :P 
ogre [2d?\]: whats chines drow tesujy
Draxt [3k\]: s3 
Am [5d\]: kick to board
Julian1 [2d\]: uhm
Bazilikan [2k\]: something about the tengen makes everything work
ML [3d\]: m5
]
;W[lq]C[Julian1 [2d\]: can someone tell me
Draxt [3k\]: ??
Bazilikan [2k\]: huh?
hgh01 [16k\]: did anyone know what happened with eurogotv?
Julian1 [2d\]: how b got l2 AND s2?
IceSpectre [4k\]: n3 m5 m4 l5 l4 m7  ? 
Bazilikan [2k\]: m4 ?
jjermann [5d?\]: dont forget j12
ogre [2d?\]: what kind of question was thet julian
]
;B[mq]
;W[ks]
;B[mr]C[ogre [2d?\]: just review the move orders
Julian1 [2d\]: i lost a few moves
Trivia [2k?\]: W got some big gote moves
Julian1 [2d\]: i don't wanna clone the game :|
ogre [2d?\]: oh.. view game offline lets you click back button
mmmd [2k?\]: well black got them by not getting b9 ...
ogre [2d?\]: unless you are using web client you can scrool the moves
Julian1 [2d\]: oh well
jjermann [5d?\]: C8
Alternate [?\]: i count some 15+ for b
nay4ok [2d?\]: ilya is funny when he does that
Weishenme [4d\]: resign is tesuji now
Julian1 [2d\]: i see w got b9 so i guess it's that
LovroKlc [2k\]: 10+ B
Bazilikan [2k\]: whats he doing?
Am [5d\]: c8 is big move
nay4ok [2d?\]: rocking back and forth
]
;W[lo]C[plusguy [3d\]: w lost quite awhile ago :p
]
;B[cl]C[Am [5d\]: so depends who play it
Syptryn [3d\]: dat bog
maze [5d\]: l7 
Syptryn [3d\]: big
taiji [2d\]: 70% of their move I wouldn't even consider
timil [4k\]: did Kang?
LovroKlc [2k\]: yea
]
;W[rq]C[timil [4k\]: did Kang win?
jjermann [5d?\]: Q4
Am [5d\]: l7 still doesnt works
nanok [?\]: timil: y
Bazilikan [2k\]: ooh u can watch live stream on difrent website
NschoTschi [-\]: kang+3.5
timil [4k\]: ok, thanks
ogre [2d?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
N4KED [1d\]: should have been 1.5 but alex made a blunder
yosogo [1d\]: b still by by5
ogre [2d?\]: no alez should have won but he made a blunder
knupsi [4d\]: t2
Bazilikan [2k\]: ogre that link doesnt work
taiji [2d\]: seems illia is favourite for title this year, possibly many years to come too
jjermann [5d?\]: W L7 is very annoying
ogre [2d?\]: you must register to that site
Goliamus [6k\]: ustream works
]
;B[sr]C[Bazilikan [2k\]: ogre i am but it doesnt work
knupsi [4d\]: aahh
FangFa [2d\]: bresakfast was losing anyway
]
;W[qr]
;B[qq]
;W[pr]C[NschoTschi [-\]: Bazilikan for me oit works :)
DrZoom [4k\]: If Ilia is playing that trong with a cold... he's much stronger without.
FangFa [2d\]: he made a fake ko threat
hottttttt: lol
maze [5d\]: q4 
]
;B[or]C[N4KED [1d\]: eurogotv.com is down for me
nay4ok [2d?\]: ))
]
;W[pp]
;B[oq]C[Bazilikan [2k\]: nscho it is down for alot of people
jjermann [5d?\]: Q4 is too risky
Paddlefoot [2d\]: should have found time to play it earlier ideally
Hideko [2k\]: L7
NschoTschi [-\]: well I am on that site since game started
Bazilikan [2k\]: infact try to refresh it
Draxt [3k\]: p14 
jjermann [5d?\]: L7
]
;W[ko]C[Sjonny [8k\]: Shikshin win almost everything ?
]
;B[lm]C[Alternate [?\]: b+r
ogre [2d?\]: he win all this year so far right?
bolbi [-\]: everything
Syptryn [3d\]: impressive, shikshin win whle having dever
Syptryn [3d\]: fever
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: he lost only final pair go
NschoTschi [-\]: ok, but stream is running
yosogo [1d\]: r12 
Bazilikan [2k\]: :)
ShusakuSai [8k\]: how many rounds there are ?
tapir [2d\]: he didnt win weekend tournament
mmmd [2k?\]: i thought he was second in the weakend tournament ?
Dino9 [6d\]: he lost week tourn too
ogre [2d?\]: still rest of week left. hope he does not get sicker
profi [2d\]: l5 looks too small (4 points gote)
]
;W[ga]C[Bazilikan [2k\]: whats that annoying voice?
Hideko [2k\]: who won weekend tournament?
ProoMas [12k\]: the timer
ProoMas [12k\]: :P
LovroKlc [2k\]: JoungHyeop
Draxt [3k\]: m6 
ArethaF: Can I please get stream shortcut, EuroGoTV1?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: results on http://egc2010.fi
ProoMas [12k\]: http://www.eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
ArethaF: Tnx
ProoMas [12k\]: but you have to register I think
Sjonny [8k\]: you do
Bazilikan [2k\]: its down
knupsi [4d\]: h18
nemo04 [?\]: try http://www.ustream.tv/channel/EuroGoTV1
]
;B[ic]C[mafutrct [5d?\]: b+3.5
Bazilikan [2k\]: thanks nemo
adiida [3k\]: more
ArethaF: TNX nemo
adiida [3k\]: around 10
Shakaponk [8k?\]: more
adiida [3k\]: q14
knupsi [4d\]: h18
tapir [2d\]: a14?
blitz99: p17
Bazilikan [2k\]: no thanks proomass!
]
;W[hb]
;B[id]C[glc [6k\]: w j19?
]
;W[je]C[Hideko [2k\]: Thomas beat Dinner in the weekend tournament!
]
;B[nn]
;W[nm]C[N4KED [1d\]: did cornel beat artem?
]
;B[no]
;W[mm]C[StefanRadu [1k\]: no
StefanRadu [1k\]: artem beat cornel
Sjonny [8k\]: Artem from kgs?
Draxt [3k\]: a8 
StefanRadu [1k\]: did laura beat taranu?
N4KED [1d\]: okay and ali lost to jung?
Bazilikan [2k\]: aww ali lost
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: catalin! xD
blitz99: m6
Eburg [2k\]: yes, that Artem from KGS
Holmes [-\]: artem92 aka artem kachanovsky
]
;B[qh]C[knupsi [4d\]: s10
]
;W[pi]
;B[pk]C[N4KED [1d\]: who does ilya play tommorow?
Bazilikan [2k\]: depends
fekand3 [1d\]: r8
NschoTschi [-\]: just another weakling ^^
N4KED [1d\]: He hasnt played artem yet
Bazilikan [2k\]: oooh
]
;W[rj]C[Sjonny [8k\]: Are there any high pro's
ShusakuSai [8k\]: what about tormannen ?
avio [2d\]: ilya will play artem tomorrow
IceSpectre [4k\]: a8 
avio [2d\]: and kang-kim
taiji [2d\]: can pairings play twice- ie. will illia play kang again?
Eilinen [-\]: Ilya won against tormanen in first round
Eilinen [-\]: törmänen*
N4KED [1d\]: yeah they can
Eilinen [-\]: if i remember righ
Eilinen [-\]: t
KlausK [6k\]: a8
stf7 [1k\]: p14>a8
]
;B[pl]C[humility [4d\]: id say b+ around 6
ShusakuSai [8k\]: did tormanen won this round ?
LovroKlc [2k\]: Ilja-Artem tomorrow
nanotech [2k\]: safe win for b good night
mmmd [2k?\]: i think not people cannot play the same person twice
Bazilikan [2k\]: annyoing clock
jjermann [5d?\]: D11'
zife [6k\]: yeah törmänen won today
StefanRadu [1k\]: did catalin win today?
Sjonny [8k\]: Wat nationalities are competing?
lemming [1k?\]: all
]
;W[ql]C[lemming [1k?\]: :)
yosogo [1d\]: b win
adiida [3k\]: where do you know the results from?
ogre [2d?\]: tormanen is from finland?
LovroKlc [2k\]: www.egc2010.fi
Eilinen [-\]: Yes
ProoMas [12k\]: future
N4KED [1d\]: you would say that at the very end 1 and 2 would not play each other.....sounds crazy
Kryo [10k\]: w S10 seems very cautious why not q10
yosogo [1d\]: if there any player from taiwan
crusher [4k\]: adiida: from törmänen :)
Syptryn [3d\]: B+3
adiida [3k\]: i thought the egc main page won't get updated until late tonight ...
mmmd [2k?\]: if 1 and 2 played each other already they would not play again
adiida [3k\]: oh .. ok .. :)
Syptryn [3d\]: closer than I thought it would be...
Sjonny [8k\]: a 8?
profi [2d\]: a18 
Syptryn [3d\]: :D
Syptryn [3d\]: yup
Sjonny [8k\]: l5 ?
NschoTschi [-\]: a8 then a18
WhoCares [?\]: only 1 game between same players, that will change next year when last 3 rounds are a cup between european players
Sjonny [8k\]: 6
jjermann [5d?\]: Kryo: Q10 is negative points
Sjonny [8k\]: l6?
ogre [2d?\]: kryo if w go q10 instead of s10 b can go s9 and it very bad
]
;B[ei]C[IceSpectre [4k\]: a18  ?? 
IceSpectre [4k\]: why ? 
ThiGar [5k\]: why don't they have Ing bowls?
oapj [1d\]: looks like w better yose than b?
Draxt [3k\]: this seem sente
petri [4k\]: Why woudl they?
glint [-\]: N4KED, re who Ilya plays tomorow, is it possibleto make a draw for tomorow before all the results from this round are in?
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: a 18, a14 after
blitz99: q12
NschoTschi [-\]: p14 not small eithe
NschoTschi [-\]: r
Draxt [3k\]: d11 
Syptryn [3d\]: eh
mmmd [2k?\]: i think because they don't play with ing rules
LovroKlc [2k\]: Ilja plays Artem for sure IMHO
Syptryn [3d\]: this move looks small
grumpyjoe [-\]: i can't believe w caught up
]
;W[kn]
;B[km]C[LovroKlc [2k\]: if he (Ilja) wins now...
Draxt [3k\]: tenuki d11 c12 b12 d14 
humility [4d\]: he didnt
avio [2d\]: 7 rounds for qualify is not good
blitz99: k5
ProoMas [12k\]: k5 1 point gote
Trivia [2k?\]: there are 10 rounds i think
ArethaF:  iwould knock w in the face if he swung at me
Sjonny [8k\]: a lot of moves left
betise [2d\]: syptryn: a bit more than 2 pts
profi [2d\]: w should d11 
avio [2d\]: odd rounds produce chaotic standings
ogre [2d?\]: oh well i guess r8  but whatever
ProoMas [12k\]: a14
]
;W[pj]C[Dino9 [6d\]: k5 - 0point gote
profi [2d\]: b10 
]
;B[oe]C[Hotaru1993 [4k\]: 0 point¿
Unefoix [1k\]: e11 perhaps to take a14 in sente
Sjonny [8k\]: m1,a8,a18
martin3141 [1d\]: yes
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: not 1 point? xD
stf7 [1k\]: not
]
;W[ph]C[Syptryn [3d\]: err
]
;B[pg]C[avio [2d\]: better less players in the top group
LovroKlc [2k\]: yes 0 point. because K7 double atari if w K5 later
]
;W[of]C[Syptryn [3d\]: wasthat that 1 pt?
stf7 [1k\]: black must K6
zife [6k\]: b has to defend even if he plays k5
]
;B[pf]C[stf7 [1k\]: 7*
stf7 [1k\]: xD
Draxt [3k\]: d11 or b10 
Syptryn [3d\]: illia failing at yose...
blitz99: a14
LovroKlc [2k\]: P17 one point sente now?
IceSpectre [4k\]: still b +5.5 
nasnad [2d\]: he wins?
]
;W[ab]
;B[ad]
;W[af]C[nasnad [2d\]: if he wins he doesn´t fail
]
;B[di]C[Bazilikan [2k\]: 30 seconds!
]
;W[ci]C[Bazilikan [2k\]: stupid clock
Draxt [3k\]: c12 
Sjonny [8k\]: a 8
]
;B[al]C[LovroKlc [2k\]: B A8
]
;W[bj]C[profi [2d\]: why not b b10 , was it smaller?
Sjonny [8k\]: m1
Draxt [3k\]: d14 
IceSpectre [4k\]: e13 
Sjonny [8k\]: r 1 then t 4
ogre [2d?\]: all they need the clocks is to get some nicer voices
]
;B[ia]
;W[ha]C[adiida [3k\]: k5 is 2 points for white
ProoMas [12k\]: 0
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: 0
adiida [3k\]: ?
]
;B[ls]C[apina [1k\]: k5 is no points
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: xD
mmmd [2k?\]: k5 is 0
coolPizz [1k\]: k5 is 0 point
leito [1k\]: t3
IceSpectre [4k\]: fake 3k :D
Draxt [3k\]: l19 
Q161 [?\]: k5 getting big
LovroKlc [2k\]: first P17
blitz99: coolpizz is not tasty
stf7 [1k\]: T4 for B
stf7 [1k\]: non
IceSpectre [4k\]: not good 
stf7 [1k\]: xD
IceSpectre [4k\]: q2 first
Bazilikan [2k\]: k5 looks like 1 point gote
stf7 [1k\]: y
]
;W[oc]
;B[pc]C[zife [6k\]: k5 is 0 point gote
LovroKlc [2k\]: ha
jjermann [5d?\]: looks can be deceiving
LovroKlc [2k\]: T3 now
Bazilikan [2k\]: 0 point gote*
Sjonny [8k\]: looks like 1 point to me
Lukan [4d\]: K5 is 0!!
Bazilikan [2k\]: sorry
ProoMas [12k\]: t3
kenjiro43 [6k\]: f19?
Bazilikan [2k\]: wrong key
blitz99: t14
Bazilikan [2k\]: it is o!
betise [2d\]: k5 is one less ko threat
]
;W[sq]C[grumpyjoe [-\]: t3
]
;B[ps]C[zife [6k\]: sjonny, double atari at k7 later on
zife [6k\]: even if b plays k5
Borisovich [2d\]: oh almost finished
blitz99: t14
NschoTschi [-\]: q1 r1 s1 all same
Dino9 [6d\]: S1 was better then Q1...
Borisovich [2d\]: a9  :)?
Bazilikan [2k\]: fredda!!!!!!!!
]
;W[ak]C[martin3141 [1d\]: everyone who thinks that k5 is a point - visualize the situation when all outside-liberties are gone ... even then b needs to defend
Bazilikan [2k\]: he left :(
]
;B[am]C[Farcas [3d\]: w whin ?
ogre [2d?\]: i kinda feel like b yose was odd this game
NschoTschi [-\]: k1
fekand3 [1d\]: t14
Bazilikan [2k\]: martin i ment to press 0
shouldBdan [7k\]: w should play k5
antoine123 [7k?\]: k5 then b will have to k7
Sjonny [8k\]: :p
avio [2d\]: b+12
LovroKlc [2k\]: either k1 t13 t12 t14  or t14 t15 t13 k1 
goatsunday [8k\]: byo yomi 30 seconds?
IceSpectre [4k\]: martin3141 or just use se and watch how even it not countink k7 as point :)
Sjonny [8k\]: b plus 3 or something 
LovroKlc [2k\]: it is the same I think
blitz99: f19
N4KED [1d\]: k5 nothing
]
;W[sf]C[maze [5d\]: b+9.5
humility [4d\]: i think b + 8 or 9 now
Bazilikan [2k\]: k5 makes a tesuji at a1 possible
humility [4d\]: yeah sounds good
lemming [1k?\]: but if b k5, isn't j6 a point?
un [2k\]: b+6.5 ?
NschoTschi [-\]: 9.5
]
;B[se]C[lemming [1k?\]: which it isn't if w plays there?
]
;W[sg]C[IceSpectre [4k\]: no 
Alternate [?\]: 10.5
Draxt [3k\]: black won't K5
]
;B[js]C[blitz99: k1
martin3141 [1d\]: no matter who plays k5 - b will need to defend at one spot inside his own territory
zakatan [6k\]: j6 becomes a point but then need to defend at k7
blitz99: gg
LovroKlc [2k\]: thatz it
kenjiro43 [6k\]: f19
humility [4d\]: b will have to play either j6 or k7 anyway
kenjiro43 [6k\]: and a1
Shakaponk [8k?\]: b +11
Moin9 [3k\]: hmm
goatsunday [8k\]: Is that the clock talking?
N4KED [1d\]: k5 empty move
jjermann [5d?\]: E13
lemming [1k?\]: he needs to defend at k7 either way
Bazilikan [2k\]: yes
yosogo [1d\]: b=9.5
NschoTschi [-\]: f19 sente
martin3141 [1d\]: he won't defend at k7, but at j6
shouldBdan [7k\]: i think everyone forgot its japanese scoring, so it hurts to play inside your own territory
]
;W[eg]C[mmmd [2k?\]: or rather he play J6 either way
]
;B[gg]C[goatsunday [8k\]: so 15 sec byo-yomi, or 30?
kukulis4 [2d\]: best K7 deffence was e13
MaLa [2d\]: 60 sec byo
Shakaponk [8k?\]: 1 mn
MaLa [2d\]: for 4d+
]
;W[jo]C[trebleclef [1k\]: b+3.5
]
;B[in]C[Bazilikan [2k\]: oh!!!!!
stf7 [1k\]: lol
stf7 [1k\]: XD
IceSpectre [4k\]: loooooool
stf7 [1k\]: hahha
Bazilikan [2k\]: lol
goatsunday [8k\]: clock keeps saying 15 seconds...
Farcas [3d\]: white win , my count say white win
stf7 [1k\]: hahahha
Syptryn [3d\]: lol
lemming [1k?\]: xD
fujichan [-\]: B win 
Draxt [3k\]: d14 
Farcas [3d\]: :))
Bazilikan [2k\]: still nothing
kenjiro43 [6k\]: LOL Farcas
Bazilikan [2k\]: it was just to remind b he has to play there
yosogo [1d\]: b+7.5
]
;W[is]
;B[ks]C[IceSpectre [4k\]: d14 
Shakaponk [8k?\]: Really k5 = 0 pt ? 
blitz99: c15
Draxt [3k\]: D14 seems 1 point after dame filled
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: xD
Bazilikan [2k\]: yes
jjermann [5d?\]: yes
zakatan [6k\]: did ilia lose any game yet?
Bazilikan [2k\]: shut up clock!
MaLa [2d\]: ilya just ost one game in weekend torunament
Dino9 [6d\]: l15 was the losing move
Shakaponk [8k?\]: who ?
MaLa [2d\]: in main he didn't lose
Lake [11k\]: yes. black need to protect from k7 anyway as i see it
AzohenWay [?\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-results.txt
MaLa [2d\]: and 13x13 he also won ;)
kukulis4 [2d\]: Shakaponk: if black played K5 the J6 had to be played anyway
lemming [1k?\]: does Ilia smoke by any chance? I think I know that cough :P
jjermann [5d?\]: Draxt: I dont see anything working
]
;W[fa]
;B[la]
;W[ln]
;B[ka]
;W[ml]C[goatsunday [8k\]: Ilia should be drinking some Zhuyequing tea
]
;B[aq]C[N4KED [1d\]: yes k5 was dumb
Shakaponk [8k?\]: k
adiida [3k\]: g10
shouldBdan [7k\]: k5 is the game winning move
Bazilikan [2k\]: ?
]
;W[lp]C[NschoTschi [-\]: thx EuroGo!!! cya tomorrow
]
;B[mo]
;W[kp]C[ProoMas [12k\]: b+9.5
]
;B[ce]
;W[ae]
;B[df]
;W[hc]C[Bazilikan [2k\]: hmm theres a usstream ap for iphone
Bazilikan [2k\]: who knew
Draxt [3k\]: c12 
]
;B[as]C[Dino9 [6d\]: try K7
Bazilikan [2k\]: a1! yes
ogre [2d?\]: c12 nothing
martin3141 [1d\]: I wonder if wk7 bl8 wj8 is anything
Optician [1k\]: time for the fat lady to sing
Draxt [3k\]: ha no i mistaken
Shakaponk [8k?\]: too late -:
veiron [10k\]: chines rules?
o3epo [1k\]: Молодец. Илья!
trebleclef [1k\]: b+3.5 
zife [6k\]: just customary to fill dame in real life games veiron
nasnad [2d\]: jap
yosogo [1d\]: k7 is useless
trebleclef [1k\]: the rule didn't countkomi 
blitz99: g10
Shakaponk [8k?\]: :O
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: great win!
AHCfujikun [5k\]: 9,5
o3epo [1k\]: Настоящий боец
Bazilikan [2k\]: why didnt b resign?
Bazilikan [2k\]: white*
o3epo [1k\]: Больной, а выиграл
Bazilikan [2k\]: not black
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B+9.5
zakatan [6k\]: because he can count
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thx all for wwatching
Lake [11k\]: thx
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: thx
ogre [2d?\]: b seem to have a chance with j16
Rubel [-\]: больной?
randras [1k\]: thx
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry EuroGoTV down
shikashogi [10k\]: ty eurogo
AHCfujikun [5k\]: thx
Prutser [5k\]: thanks! 
AHCfujikun [5k\]: nc
sestir [-\]: Good game!
lordik [9k?\]: thanks for transcribing
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: cu all tomorrow
ThePoint [2d\]: bad byo rules,prefer canadian
SBA [8k\]: thx
UFO [3k\]: dank je harry
Am [5d\]: озеро, не иначе, как ты его учил!?  Ж0(
o3epo [1k\]: очень красивая игра!!!
iqvilopus [4k\]: thanks EuroGo
ogre [2d?\]: l15 game losing
play234 [-\]: i thought egc uses aga rules?
goodattack [1d\]: thx
MaLa [2d\]: no
MaLa [2d\]: japanese rules
Jr4yA [-\]: thx
N4KED [1d\]: no britian does though
yosogo [1d\]: b+8.5
N4KED [1d\]: britian adopted aga rules
MaLa [2d\]: verbal european japanese rules ^^
o3epo [1k\]: мы все друг друга учим
play234 [-\]: in leksand 2 years back we used aga i think
kenjiro43 [6k\]: SE says b+9.5
Indigospot [1k\]: egc used ing rules in 2008 atleast
o3epo [1k\]: г-н АМ
play234 [-\]: ah, ing
Am [5d\]: а вести себя мы тоже друг друга учим?  ;-)
MaLa [2d\]: this year it is japanese, for sure... (i'm playing here myself ^.^) 
ThiGar [5k\]: there is a choice: http://home.snafu.de/jasiek/egfgtr.html
Hideko [2k\]: Loves Japanese ;)
avio [2d\]: they are discussing theese l15 moves
ogre [2d?\]: they are discussing it
ogre [2d?\]: i cant see
N4KED [1d\]: aga you can choose japanes also I think
ogre [2d?\]: cant see which moves they play :(
yosogo [1d\]: so there are many people in the real game room
yosogo [1d\]: ?
NorthWind [5k\]: no, just 2 boards in this room
avio [2d\]: can see them on eurogotv
Stoneflow [-\]: :)
yosogo [1d\]: i mean is there anyone in the finland now?
avio [2d\]: no more
ogre [2d?\]: what time is the usgo stuff starting?
avio [2d\]: eurogotv is off now
N4KED [1d\]: 2.25 hours
ogre [2d?\]: wanta watch that also
N4KED [1d\]: they got the webcam working tooo
avio [2d\]: but the sequence they tried ended with w capturing j18 group
ogre [2d?\]: go kibitzing all day long
N4KED [1d\]: but it sucks
ogre [2d?\]: as long as the game bodcast on kgs its good
ogre [2d?\]: webcam is not the most important part
ogre [2d?\]: unless.. they do it with special top mounted cams
ogre [2d?\]: the above board cam is awesome
N4KED [1d\]: I would not watch without the webcam
ogre [2d?\]: like in pro tv tornaments
ogre [2d?\]: i watch regardless of cam
ogre [2d?\]: u ever see pro tv tornaments?
N4KED [1d\]: no I wish
N4KED [1d\]: I mean some random bits and pieces on the web
N4KED [1d\]: but not a live game in full
o3epo [1k\]: who won between Burzo and Artem?
N4KED [1d\]: They say Artem
o3epo [1k\]: thanks
N4KED [1d\]: So maybe artem will paly ilya tommorow
N4KED [1d\]: who knows though
ogre [2d?\]: i watch em
ogre [2d?\]: its on tv in japan
ogre [2d?\]: nhk cup
ogre [2d?\]: i wish to see the ones in korea and china also but i wouldnt understand the commentators
avio [2d\]: tomorrow ilya-artem and kang-kim
Moin9 [3k\]: who won?
ogre [2d?\]: ilia win this one and kang won other one
ogre [2d?\]: tommorrow is exciting
ogre [2d?\]: i woulda liked to see jabarin face kang tho also
Stefany93 [15k\]: who won?
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