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GN[European Go Congress 2010 board 2 round 8]PW[Cristian Pop]PB[Ilia Shikshin]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2010-08-05]PC[Tampere, Finland]US[Liselot / Lisetol]C[jim [6d\]: wow this should be second lose for Ilia
Slapabitch [2d?\]: hello everybody! *salutare tuturor*
Shedal [2d\]: Ilia can't lose anymore
jim [6d\]: Ilia just losing when the pairing was made
Slapabitch [2d?\]: we shall see.
Shedal [2d\]: He already overdrafted his losing account :)
Slapabitch [2d?\]: when popicu` plays ilia they both have 50% chances. and this is me being polite.
IASIGOCUP [-\]: GO Cristi !
adiida [3k\]: why ?
Slapabitch [2d?\]: why?
adiida [3k\]: does Pop have better record against ilia? 
AlexCosta [-\]: GoIlia!!!!!!!!
neHb [1k\]: ну не муромец илья, но и противник не алеша попович
crizz [2k\]: Go Popic!
Slapabitch [2d?\]: no. popicu` is simply better!:D
Excalibor [-\]: they surely know each other very well
Shedal [2d\]: Well, Pop already lose to 2 not-top players in this tournament, while Ilia only lose to a-very-top Artem. Kinda tells a story, isn't it?
Shedal [2d\]: And also, Pop lose to Surin, who is also russian
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Goodmorning =D
alexanderp [?\]: Well, Artem lost to Kang. Ilya has beaten Kang :)
Excalibor [-\]: i think Ilyia should sleep better, he looks very tired
Excalibor [-\]: hullo there! :)
Shedal [2d\]: So there's some nice statistics :)
jim [6d\]: Goodmorning Eurogotv
jim [6d\]: please tell Popic that today I want to celebrate his victory
Excalibor [-\]: i wonder why Rita Pocsai didn't come to the tournament (sad)
adiida [3k\]: i saw jim was so confident in Pop's victory ...
adiida [3k\]: i assumed that Pop has like a 5-0 record or something against ilia
Shedal [2d\]: Excalibor, how do you know how Ilia looks today?
Shedal [2d\]: 2alexanderp: Kang, Artem and Ilia have lost to each other in a round-robin...
neHb [1k\]: слонов на мясо
RyuuGan [1d\]: eurogo? where are the results?
erkkierkki [6k\]: Ryuugan try egc official site
Mattpark [1d\]: GO Cristian! :) 
larske [4k\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results.php
Excalibor [-\]: shedal: not today, but as of late
Excalibor [-\]: he even took a nap in front of the camera waiting for Kang on their game :)
Excalibor [-\]: wow, Ilya only at 1 point SOS from Kang, cool
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: Go down Cristian!
Excalibor [-\]: and Artem 3,,, exciting Congress ;)
alexanderp [?\]: well, now Kang will play with weaker and even more weaker players, so she will hardly lose
Dupaaxe [?\]: salutari :)
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: yeah I prefer Artem game against Kang
Excalibor [-\]: sad that Catalin is not performing his best... however his matches last week were very exciting
elbow [2k?\]: Why not ? http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-pairing-r8.txt
Excalibor [-\]: sadly enough, i gotta go to work :-P have fun, gang!
chrpa [1k\]: wow, this will be a nice game, thanks for transmission
Canon [5k\]: morning everyone:)
BFF [10k?\]: Hello
Am [5d\]: hello...
Am [5d\]: is here somebode who know paring of this round (hight boards)?
Canon [5k\]: I would like to drink for Popic too..;Jim)
leffy [9d?\]: any sgf posted of the ilya artem game?
Am [5d\]: leffy look eurogotv1 previos game
leffy [9d?\]: last games posted on Eurogo from 30 Jul
chrpa [1k\]: find in kgs account eurogotv1
leffy [9d?\]: xllnt ta!
Shedal [2d\]: pairings are there! http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-pairing-r8.txt
Raz [3k\]: GO POPICA
noned [2d\]: maybe they should wake up ilia
Shedal [2d\]: Ilia looks better, I think
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;B[dd]C[sayona [2k\]: why isn't this board 1?
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;W[pp]C[sheeryjay [2k\]: because pairing ...
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;B[qd]C[Hangovers [3k\]: leffy eurogotv1 info
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;W[dp]
;B[qn]
;W[nd]
;B[ne]C[smartrobot [9d\]: /
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;W[pd]
;B[pe]
;W[oe]
;B[of]C[snowman [-\]: The paper on the table is an invitation to the appeals committee meeting
snowman [-\]: no further details, sorry :)
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;W[od]
;B[pf]C[Ripples [2k\]: does black want sente with that move
Ripples [2k\]: ?
Vamp: q14 isn`t joseki move
Ripples [2k\]: r15 is normal
Vamp: yup
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;W[qc]
;B[rc]
;W[ld]C[nanotech [2k\]: blk wants w sealed in the corner
lordik [9k?\]: didnt happen
power [3k\]: roln swings like a pendulum
snowman [-\]: black Q14 seems to be a new move
power [3k\]: or Tyson
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;B[qb]C[sayona [2k\]: w is finished
power [3k\]: w smoking )
enk01 [7k\]: egc2010
sayona [2k\]: roln is finished
just9x9 [-\]: i like b here
cherisse [1k\]: awesome poppy vs illia!
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: smartrobot could play this tournament and win kang
veggieboy [1d?\]: uh wat.
neHb [1k\]: зачем роботу канг что он с ней будет делать
veggieboy [1d?\]: why does white look so bad.
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;W[pc]
;B[re]C[kuruhuru9 [6k\]: Вердеру Алиса нужна ведь была
Daoloth [-\]: because w group isn't settled very well and black gets moyo
alexanderp [?\]: How Ilya lost to Artem? Big group died?
Somber [8k\]: is there a stream up?
noned [2d\]: artem stong
kuruhuru9 [6k\]:  ko
lemurov [-\]: he was  losin 5 pts
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: он че-то с ко намутил и головой качал качал и продул
Hangovers [3k\]: i tnink artem is the strongest player in this tournament - except that he seemed very nervous when playing against Kang
lemurov [-\]: последнее ко просто повод сдаться, проигрыш 5 очков в позднем йосе это конец
Trivia [2k?\]: нет ко в центре
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: я про крупное в центре говорю
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;W[fc]C[alexanderp [?\]: well, Artem lost to Kang. Ilya beat Kang,
lemurov [-\]: а в центре не смог выжить без ко, там практически партия решалась. а что делать? думал выживет без ко
neHb [1k\]: артем сольет последние три партии
Ryofu [6k\]: Кто такой Кристиан Поп?
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: я за Артема тоже болею
oktan [6k\]: ну конечно сбольным играть то легче
lemurov [-\]: ну это было бы слишком. жаль илье даже при лучшем раскладе не догнать канг по коэффициенту
cherisse [1k\]: wow slow game compared to board 1 O_O
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: да она ж кореянка какая нафиг чемпионка европы?
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: кстати там финальной части нет?
cherisse [1k\]: i don't understand!
jim [6d\]: first board not so important european champion can be here
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;B[cf]C[Trivia [2k?\]: илья не в форму
lemurov [-\]: хочется общего первого места илья был близок
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: если поделит - это нормально
cherisse [1k\]: and would that be poppy or roln111?
Shedal [2d\]: Christian Pop sounds like Islamic Rock to me
cherisse [1k\]: :))
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: но и Артем молодец  - может он еще станет чимпионом
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: я против только бабенки :)
MoeTheDoom [5k\]: динер вылетел?
lemurov [-\]: дважды оступился
neHb [1k\]: корейцы вне зачета - они не могут стать че - хоть три первых места займут
alexanderp [?\]: Проблема Ильи во всех партиях всегда одна и та же - слабые группы, которые потом выживают. Если он выживает, то выигрывает. Если нет...Т.е он явно и сильнее Канг был и, возможно, Артёма, но стиль игры у него очень авантюристичный, опасный
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;W[id]C[StefanRadu [1k\]: chatul a fost monopolizat de rusi
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: вот сейчас он хорошо играет, плотно :)
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: видимо хочет усыпить нас, а потмо... :)))
cherisse [1k\]: eurogotv link pls ^_^
Mattpark [1d\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php    here I think 
oktan [6k\]: ну наверно он готовился к играм  с соперниками которыми будет играть...ну и были поставленны соответствующие задачи. Он их выполнил и выиграл.
alexanderp [?\]: I said Ilya has dangerous and avanturistic style, that's why he often loses won game
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: а кто у него тренер?
alexanderp [?\]: отец, наверное
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;B[nq]C[oktan [6k\]: скорей всего
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: а я слыхал что Артем учился у Че Чикуна?
Caribe [4k\]: that's so annoying and disturnibg
Caribe [4k\]: you guys can'T speak english?
kuruhuru9 [6k\]:  can but dont like
Lesmian [1k\]: you caribe can`t speak russian? learn if not :)
Ryofu [6k\]: Разбежался. )
Caribe [4k\]: ben türkçe yazsam nasıl olur
alexanderp [?\]: Caribe, cok iyiy
Wisp [19k\]: its in englisg game room u kno...
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: turkey are good people
Wisp [19k\]: english*
ooze: Чо Чикун учится у Артема
cherisse [1k\]: ok fine mag tagalog na lang ako mag isa
oktan [6k\]: :))
jubjub [3k\]: both players left the table
hosainogo: ce cacaciosi sunt astia :)
kuruhuru9 [6k\]:  ему полезно
kryft [1d\]: jubjub, They were probably annoyed by the bickering kibitzers.
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: свежие струи и все такое
nanotech [2k\]: no they are watching The King Kang destroyer!
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;W[oo]
;B[qq]C[kuruhuru9 [6k\]: King Kang! great!
cherisse [1k\]: illia watching board 1
cherisse [1k\]: he knows he'll be there tomorrow!
Trivia [2k?\]: вот какая дружба народов ;
lemurov [-\]: no way
lemurov [-\]: kang'll be n 1st bard
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;W[ol]C[ILoveKang: go Kangggg
alexanderp [?\]: it's a pity Ali has no chances against Kang.
lemurov [-\]: loooool
cherisse [1k\]: kang is on 1st board - go there
NschoTschi [-\]: I have seen p8 before in this tourney
alexanderp [?\]: is it possible that Ilya will play Kang for the second time?
NschoTschi [-\]: not sure in which game
cherisse [1k\]: what happened to artem
Somber [8k\]: i dont think they want too lol
HKitty [3d?\]: apparently not
NschoTschi [-\]: no alex
kryft [1d\]: NschoTschi, I saw that game too, but it was a new move for me.
Somber [8k\]: they looked so annoyed with each other
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;B[om]C[Fenix [?\]: hm, that sucks that because of artem's win, kang is now #1 again
NschoTschi [-\]: for me as well
JoostC [4d\]: I have never seen a move like p8, q7 is more common
cherisse [1k\]: yeah artem just ruined the fun :|
Fenix [?\]: why is she #1 and not ilya or artem, anyway?
alexanderp [?\]: well, then Kang will be #1 place.
NschoTschi [-\]: because os SOS score
NschoTschi [-\]: had harder opponents
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;W[nm]C[yamashitaK [5d\]: p8 or q7 is possible ,but against ila they play p8 because its not easy to be cut 
yamashitaK [5d\]: but anyway Ilya is cutting it ^^
ILoveKang: i've developed a newfound respect for artem
ILoveKang: go christian
Fenix [?\]: artem has been praised by both, rustysword and crowis
yamashitaK [5d\]: when ?
Fenix [?\]: in real life ;)
yamashitaK [5d\]: ah ok 
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;B[pm]C[yamashitaK [5d\]: I know that artem beat rustysword once in a tournament 
yamashitaK [5d\]: so I dont wonder
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;W[nn]
;B[nl]C[NschoTschi [-\]: q3 next possible?
NschoTschi [-\]: I dont like w here
Somber [8k\]: seems like either way W pushes
Somber [8k\]: B gains
luciangela [5k\]: r8
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;W[qp]C[Fenix [?\]: what's better here, O9 or P9 for black ?
Fenix [?\]: (first corner of course)
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;B[rp]C[boatlord [6d\]: optimistic thinking b gets both move in corner and first move on outside
Fenix [?\]: well i was just wondering what was better if he did ^^
ILoveKang: q3
Trivia [2k?\]: S4 interesting
boatlord [6d\]: q3 looks like only choice
boatlord [6d\]: if s5 then b gets move in corner and outside :P
NschoTschi [-\]: boatlord: ouside means o9 ?
boatlord [6d\]: yes
avio [2d\]: w got points on b side (the upper one) so now b is superior in w corner
Fenix [?\]: i realy thought we'd have ilya vs artem today :-p
Elmarias [-\]: that was yesterday
Elmarias [-\]: Ilia made a mistake in mid-game and artem stuck ahead the rest of the game and won
jim [6d\]: black more active till now
Somber [8k\]: granted... looking at the game board, artem looked deceptively like he was destroying ilia lol
HKitty [3d?\]: zomg, she is actually thinking
Sven84 [3k\]: artem vs illiya was tuesday not yesterday
Elmarias [-\]: well..yeah.i still think of yesterday form the time i got up
Caribe [4k\]: russian guys: do you have a go school in russia? -not private ones.. like the ones attached to the state
cherisse [1k\]: getting up just to watch the next game eh?
Elmarias [-\]: :p. yep. up at 2:26 am
Elmarias [-\]: current time for me
NschoTschi [-\]: jim is active per se good?
CatalinKGS [5k?\]: Go Popic!
jim [6d\]: I will not feel confortable in the place of white
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: Go Попик
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;W[ok]
;B[nk]
;W[ro]C[NschoTschi [-\]: Is Ilya still coughing all day?
Elmarias [-\]: not much
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;B[rr]C[jim [6d\]: now if black conect, white R8
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;W[sp]C[kuruhuru9 [6k\]: begining of end
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;B[rq]
;W[ql]C[CatalinKGS [5k?\]: y is that, Jim?
alexanderp [?\]: Caribe, yes, at least in Kazan city (where Dinershtein lives) - a school of Olympic Reserve.
alexanderp [?\]: I was there.
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;B[pl]C[jim [6d\]: this is a nice exchange
alexanderp [?\]: but overall, Russian go is a set of individual teachers and clubs.
cherisse [1k\]: these are two interesting players, not only the level of game but their character as well
jim [6d\]: white can sacrife 2 stones
jim [6d\]: 3 stones
Pinguschaf [7d?\]: which e ?
Pinguschaf [7d?\]: 3
Caribe [4k\]: domo, alexander-san
jim [6d\]: if Q9
jim [6d\]: atari at S9
jim [6d\]: then R7
Pinguschaf [7d?\]: i see
Pinguschaf [7d?\]: dont like it for white
jim [6d\]: dont like but can find something better
alexanderp [?\]: buyrun:)
Caribe [4k\]: :)
alexanderp [?\]: Caribe, nerelesin?
alexanderp [?\]: Istanbul?
Caribe [4k\]: bog tebia vidumal, alyosha
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: JUN!!
Pinguschaf [7d?\]: LISELOT
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: hahaha
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(;W[qm]C[ILoveKang: if q7 dies, it's time to resign
alexanderp [?\]: Caribe, that was absolutely irrelevent phrase:)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: you should see what sandmann wrote about me in EuroGoTV news
alexanderp [?\]: irrelevant*
Pinguschaf [7d?\]: ok
Caribe [4k\]: a sign of my gtaritude :)
Pinguschaf [7d?\]: lol
NschoTschi [-\]: s6?
NschoTschi [-\]: or too small
jim [6d\]: direct R7 is better
jim [6d\]: a resonable compromise for white
JoostC [4d\]: Black R9 enough for black?
jjaks [13k?\]: didn't see white playing there....
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(;W[pk]C[NschoTschi [-\]: ?
blazej [2d?\]: ?????????????/
Trivia [2k?\]: ilya in a hole again... searching for a marvelous tesuij...
ArQuendy [2k\]: r9 isn`t working?
zazie [5d\]: liselot, what's the real game ? ;)
Veivi [4d\]: "cut"
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: this is
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: real game
zazie [5d\]: ok, so what was the last move R7 ? :)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: popppy just played Q9
NschoTschi [-\]: If r9 sacrifices o9 its bad
Caribe [4k\]: why you do that?
luciangela [5k\]: s8
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;B[qk]
;W[qj]C[jim [6d\]: wow
blazej [2d?\]: is it real
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;B[rk]C[NschoTschi [-\]: lieselot was it sandmann with you in the elevator?
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;W[qo]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: hahaha no
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: someone told him the story
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yesterday in the pub
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: and he posted -_-'
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: and changed my name
alexanderp [?\]: what's the story? link?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: but when i told it to my friends, i was just joking, this didn't happen :p
alexanderp [?\]: again Ilya begins so solid and ends with a weak dying group
NschoTschi [-\]: so what is your real name
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: думаешь группа умрет?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Liselot
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: but in EuroGoTV news sandmann changed it to Lisetol
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;B[nj]C[JoostC [4d\]: Why not white Q11
NschoTschi [-\]: ah i c
JoostC [4d\]: now black kills all
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;W[oq]C[alexanderp [?\]: не знаю, умрёт ли, но теперь он вынужден её спасать
kryft [1d\]: EuroGoTV2, :D
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;B[or]
;W[nr]
;B[pr]C[jim [6d\]: ah Ko
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: белые тоже бегут
alexanderp [?\]: угол живёт
Caribe [4k\]: ? i dont see a ko ?
alexanderp [?\]: corner is alive
sheeryjay [2k\]: yeah, nobody can guess who Lisetol is ^^
sheeryjay [2k\]: Same as nobody knows who that mysterious guy whose name was changed to Harry (another story) is :)
andy1975 [1d\]: ko would have been good
NschoTschi [-\]: when I read I even didnt notice that t and l were switched
ILoveKang: did w screw up here
pirate [?\]: Liselot = lies a lot?
snes [-\]: looks like
sheeryjay [2k\]: you're not helping NschoTschi .. now Liselot will realize the truth :P
ILoveKang: he should have played o10
Pinguschaf [7d?\]: nice one pirate
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: мне кажется это Илья съест
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;W[mq]
;B[np]
;W[lr]C[Pinguschaf [7d?\]: looks terrible for black
Pinguschaf [7d?\]: i mean for white
NschoTschi [-\]: AncientGo is blitzing
jjermann [5d?\]: is Q9 reakky already dead?
jjermann [5d?\]: s/reakky/really/
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: interesting fight i think
snes [-\]: will B go out?
JoostC [4d\]: Exchange white r5 for black O10 was horrible
jjermann [5d?\]: O4 too heavy at the moment it seems
jjermann [5d?\]: I would feel uncomfortable to run out without preparations
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;B[cn]C[Koukkaaja [3d\]: yes but not Pops Zhuyeqing cup of tea
snes [-\]: yes
ILoveKang: w completely underachieved this
kryft [1d\]: Why would black want to run out at this point anyway?
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(;W[fq])
(;W[fp]
;B[dk]C[jim [6d\]: white is ok
jim [6d\]: cutting 2 stones was very big
jim [6d\]: also S8 yose is big
jim [6d\]: J4 for white now
hosainogo: bine mai jim, daca zici tu :)
ILoveKang: go Cristian
Elmarias [-\]: i was thinking J3. or is that too timid?
luciangela [5k\]: D7 ?
Pinguschaf [7d?\]: j4 looks too slow
NschoTschi [-\]: j3 has only purpose: to makle territory. that cant be enough at this stage
Pinguschaf [7d?\]: but maybe its honte to kill the aji of o4
jwc [-\]: w s10 seems possible
NschoTschi [-\]: Is e7 or c11 possible?
NschoTschi [-\]: s10 q10 
jwc [-\]: s1o q10 t9
NschoTschi [-\]: that end in gote no?
luciangela [5k\]: jwc, s10, q10, t9, s6
luciangela [5k\]: w can't live
NschoTschi [-\]: t9 was atari
jwc [-\]: then s8
jwc [-\]: gote but very big
ronnyss [6k\]: yose
NschoTschi [-\]: not big enough yet as it has no strategic impact
Koukkaaja [3d\]: you don't start with s10 in the first place
jwc [-\]: s10 s8 p11 o11p12 o12 s7
fatihsulak [-\]: p11 
luciangela [5k\]: jwc
luciangela [5k\]: s10, q10, s8, T9...
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;W[km]C[StefanRadu [1k\]: mind blowing.
jwc [-\]: s19 q10 t9 
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;B[hq]C[luciangela [5k\]: s8
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;W[gq]
;B[hp]C[jwc [-\]: s7 then
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;W[gn]C[luciangela [5k\]: jwc after t9
jwc [-\]: w connects
IceSpectre [4k\]: he will use o3 aji 
Caribe [4k\]: p11 lol
avio [2d\]: w connects but gote
avio [2d\]: how would black respond to white p11?
luciangela [5k\]: q11\]
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;B[eq]C[Trivia [2k?\]: hey any1 here?
Smilogo [6k\]: oh no not again fan against cough :)
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;W[gr]C[NschoTschi [-\]: There is no user account named "any1" on this system.
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;B[ep]
;W[eo]
;B[dq]C[Elmarias [-\]: c5?
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;W[en]
;B[cp]C[Trivia [2k?\]: such a nice nick why no1 would take it?
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;W[hm]C[NschoTschi [-\]: no1 aleady ther
NschoTschi [-\]: e
Elmarias [-\]: fiiine.. *sigh* ill make a 2nd account...
Elmarias [-\]: lol
jim [6d\]: white ok
mihi [6d\]: why didn't white play E4 instead of G2?
mikan [2d\]: This aint gmail, folks, no rush
fatihsulak [-\]: l9 seems important
jim [6d\]: because easy life I think
NschoTschi [-\]: D18 seals the last corner for b
mihi [6d\]: D18 
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;B[me]C[taiji [2d\]: I caught Illia's cough via eurogotv ;(
]
;W[md]C[jim [6d\]: white ahead
IceSpectre [4k\]: n13 ?
luciangela [5k\]: c11 ?
Trivia [2k?\]: B almost got 4 corners
IceSpectre [4k\]: q18 seems good as well 
GoIsBoring [3d\]: e18 
fatihsulak [-\]: p9 has tons of aji 
Shedal [2d\]: D18 looks very big
NschoTschi [-\]: d18 and d10/d11 miai?
fatihsulak [-\]: l9 still my bet :)
jim [6d\]: yes D18 is big
jim [6d\]: C11 also is a good invasion for white
]
;B[fr]C[taiji [2d\]: w roughly 81.5
Shedal [2d\]: why F2?
NschoTschi [-\]: nobody though of F2
]
;W[fq]C[Trivia [2k?\]: thinks F2 is sente
Caribe [4k\]: if only h3 could live
Shedal [2d\]: ah, it's sente, right
IceSpectre [4k\]: it is 
NschoTschi [-\]: maybe because of c3?
IceSpectre [4k\]: c3 is nothing 
Trivia [2k?\]: D1 was big
NschoTschi [-\]: true
Trivia [2k?\]: now tenuki
NschoTschi [-\]: too early for L14?
mihi [6d\]: D18 only move
taiji [2d\]: b 75 if d18 now
Am [5d\]: not e18 &
Am [5d\]: ?
snes [-\]: looks like last big point
Am [5d\]: also possible e17 -f16 f18 -g18 e18 
taiji [2d\]: next w will take the d11?
snes [-\]: why F2 is sente?
Shedal [2d\]: snes, because of G4, F5
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: if black got the 4 corners he should resing, if white got the 4 corners... black should resing too
Hotaru1993 [4k\]: xD
Shedal [2d\]: B can connect
snes [-\]: ah yes
snes [-\]: thx
jim [6d\]: was posible D7 in place of F3?
]
;B[eb]C[NschoTschi [-\]: Am best!
jim [6d\]: C16 aji
]
;W[mg]C[adiida [3k\]: this is preparing for p11,right?
jim [6d\]: this is a probe
jjermann [5d?\]: why not just capture P9 cleanly?
jim [6d\]: and preparing to get some potential in the center
IceSpectre [4k\]: p12 just defend it ? 
jjermann [5d?\]: this would be aji keshi and a lot of points
Q161 [?\]: because of greed
Caribe [4k\]: o13
jjermann [5d?\]: O13 is bad shape kind of and makes N13 a good move
IceSpectre [4k\]: w seems better here 
LovroKlc [2k\]: not really
jjermann [5d?\]: just Q10?
jim [6d\]: S8 better then Q10
Q161 [?\]: how is q10 better than o13?
jjermann [5d?\]: if w plays again it is sente
jjermann [5d?\]: if w plays w can make a semeai
jjermann [5d?\]: resp semedori
jjermann [5d?\]: so it would also be points
jim [6d\]: next move of white will be other area, this is only a probe
Elmarias [-\]: maybe nexy move c or d11
jim [6d\]: C16 also some aji
jjermann [5d?\]: yeah so if w doesnt play then I feel better with Q10 than O13
]
;B[nh]C[Q161 [?\]: >.<
Caribe [4k\]: o12... just like i said
Caribe [4k\]: ^^
jim [6d\]: this is not good
gruszka [1k\]: f18?
NschoTschi [-\]: jim does F18 eliminate the C16 aji?
jjermann [5d?\]: there is still a lot of aji
jim [6d\]: sorry S8 yose now
jim [6d\]: yes
jim [6d\]: F18 eliminate C16 aji
lemurov [-\]: b's winnin right?
jjermann [5d?\]: jim: but w can't connect to R10
jjermann [5d?\]: I mean if w tries to b can cut and kill?
mihi [6d\]: w should invade left side 
mihi [6d\]: ..
NschoTschi [-\]: at C11ß
NschoTschi [-\]: ?
mihi [6d\]: possible
wolokom [5k\]: mihi and where?
prescott [1d\]: illya won against kang?
NschoTschi [-\]: yes
Q161 [?\]: ya
LovroKlc [2k\]: D11?
ILoveKang: he just got lucky
Q161 [?\]: it wasnt even close
]
;W[dj]C[NschoTschi [-\]: he ownd hger :)
Q161 [?\]: resigned before scoring
prescott [1d\]: where can i find the game?
lemurov [-\]: yeah she was pwned
wolokom [5k\]: mihi he did 
Trivia [2k?\]: look at Eurogotv1's game recored
IceSpectre [4k\]:  and invade top ? c9 
Caribe [4k\]: is kang a she? and is she 4d?
prescott [1d\]: thanks
NschoTschi [-\]: she is 7d
Trivia [2k?\]: no she's 7d
]
;B[ej]C[Elmarias [-\]: d11
Trivia [2k?\]: ilya pretty confident now
]
;W[di]C[Elmarias [-\]: c9
luciangela [5k\]: e9
Elmarias [-\]: d13
Trivia [2k?\]: e8
]
;B[ck]C[NschoTschi [-\]: e10 destroys w' s pretensions on the center
wolokom [5k\]: is anyone who knows what pop did studying at the uni?
]
;W[dg]
;B[df]C[Stefany93 [15k\]: what nationality is Pop?
kryft [1d\]: wolokom, Play go? :P
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: romanian
NschoTschi [-\]: he got a master degree in Popism!
]
;W[fb]C[un [2k\]: And he likes pop music ?
mihi [6d\]: haha
Trivia [2k?\]: pop = priest
alexanderp [?\]: at least he is not Christian Pope
NschoTschi [-\]: *Cristian
noned [2d\]: e17 f15
jim [6d\]: now white ahead on points 
NschoTschi [-\]: how much?
]
;B[ec]C[neHb [1k\]: у попа была собака он ее люби она съела кусок мяса он ее убил
]
;W[fe]C[NschoTschi [-\]: so you choose w here?
fatihsulak [-\]: video has lots of moves played
erikk [-\]: F14 looked ok to me
]
;B[ff]C[wolokom [5k\]: yes i think he is one who can be married
]
;W[eg]
;B[ef]
;W[gh]
;B[gd]
;W[fd]
;B[ei]
;W[eh]
;B[ch]
;W[cg]
;B[ge]C[Farcas [3d\]: cut
Farcas [3d\]: :D
Farcas [3d\]: e9 
Sven84 [3k\]: poor pop
NschoTschi [-\]: black controlling this quite well to me
]
;W[hc]
;B[bg]C[Elmarias [-\]: now e9
any1 [?\]: i think black ahead a little bit
zambara [2k\]: e9 already played eurogotv
]
;W[ek]C[NschoTschi [-\]: g10 only way?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: sorry KGS is very slow
alexanderp [?\]: who looked for any1? he's right here
NschoTschi [-\]: or give sth up
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: one move takes like 2min
Trivia [2k?\]: any1 has stole my nick
any1 [?\]: hehe
any1 [?\]: i was faster
jim [6d\]: white ahead
]
;B[rn]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: internet connection is terrible
NschoTschi [-\]: all the time you a favouring w jim
Farcas [3d\]: :))
NschoTschi [-\]: i dont understand...
alexanderp [?\]: I've heard average internet connection in Finland is 100 Mbps 
Mattpark [1d\]: lol go w  :) 
alexanderp [?\]: why s6?
Farcas [3d\]: go w
avio [2d\]: go w
Mattpark [1d\]: hehe :) 
NschoTschi [-\]: s6 kills s10 aji
alexanderp [?\]: s10, q10, no?
jim [6d\]: well white also have N11 forcing move here
NschoTschi [-\]: before s6: s10 q10 t9 
wolokom [5k\]: b 10?
Farcas [3d\]: is still a ko?
ILoveKang: i think b is saying gameover
jim [6d\]: so left side black si bottom white + komi
NschoTschi [-\]: b10 c10 simply
zife [6k\]: alexanderp, I wish it were
some1 [?\]: are you looking for me?
erikk [-\]: no1 is looking for you
alexanderp [?\]: And 1 Mbps internet connection in Finland is legal right.
]
;W[fj]C[some1 [?\]: what else to do over long Finnish nights...
jim [6d\]: this is proper
snes [-\]: Pop is always honte
IceSpectre [4k\]: g14 cut seems troublesome 
alexanderp [?\]: look at the fingers configuration of Ilya:)
NschoTschi [-\]: honte is strong
alexanderp [?\]: it was like mudra
IceSpectre [4k\]: h14  ? 
NschoTschi [-\]: tengen for all tengen-fans
pirate [?\]: t6
goth [?\]: honte is Catalin Taranu style
Pische [-\]: t19 for all t19 fants
snes [-\]: yes, Pop was insei with him I believe
snes [-\]: japanese style
Elmarias [-\]: t20 for all imaginary fans
NschoTschi [-\]: g14 cut is not too small either
bdbdbd: wow, b seems lost here
bdbdbd: old proverb: when b gets 4 corners, w wins :)
jim [6d\]: white ahead to me also
]
;B[kk]C[jim [6d\]: E19 double sente
alexanderp [?\]: what is correct - sEnte or sentE? Always wondered.
]
;W[rb]C[jim [6d\]: good cut
some1 [?\]: ilya is not very concerned with this game is he?
NschoTschi [-\]: looking at se I prefer b
bdbdbd: wow
GoArt [2k\]: i wondered why he didnt play O19
GoArt [2k\]: as b
]
;B[ra]
;W[bi]C[NschoTschi [-\]: w wanna get some corner so he lose
Pische [-\]: o19??
strong10k [-\]: why s18?
DanielTom [5d\]: I think the game is still close
IceSpectre [4k\]: q18 ?
NschoTschi [-\]: Daniel I agree
bdbdbd: game close. but w much bigger yose potential
]
;B[er]
;W[li]C[bdbdbd: wicked
]
;B[kl]C[chrpa [1k\]: this looks too good for black
Caribe [4k\]: clever
jim [6d\]: M12.........
]
;W[ml]C[twinsen61: m12 now?
]
;B[mk]
;W[ll]
;B[lk]C[IceSpectre [4k\]: that some big bottum 
jim [6d\]: sorry M11
adasdsad: k8
NschoTschi [-\]: B h14 next?
some1 [?\]: N13 stones in pplay soon
IceSpectre [4k\]: g14 
jim [6d\]: m11  was strange I think
cherisse [1k\]: who is the gentleman watching in the bg?
Elmarias [-\]: k7 and N5 just plyeed
Caribe [4k\]: h2 g1 L3  m4 L3 L4 N4... 
Caribe [4k\]: would do?
]
;W[jm]
;B[mo]
;W[mp]C[alexanderp [?\]: n4 m3, Caribe
IceSpectre [4k\]: huh ? 
Shedal [2d\]: alexanderp, neither sEnte nor sentE are right. Or both are right. In japanese, there are no explicit stresses on syllables.
]
;B[no]C[Fenix [?\]: is ilya in byoyomi?
some1 [?\]: whoa
IceSpectre [4k\]: this is interesting 
Fenix [?\]: i dont get what b is trying to do
IceSpectre [4k\]: aiming at h2 in the end right ?
alexanderp [?\]: well, you can't pronounce a word without accent on syllable:)
]
;W[lo]C[Shedal [2d\]: yes, you can © Obama
]
;B[ln]C[IceSpectre [4k\]: lol
]
;W[lm]C[NschoTschi [-\]: tesuji time
Fenix [?\]: why not m7 at L6?
Saradan [3k\]: why not n6 
Caribe [4k\]: p6 dangerous for b?
]
;B[lp]C[alexanderp [?\]: i've found an article about japanese stress accents, they have it, but they're pitch accents
]
;W[ko]C[Fenix [?\]: g1 go
sameasyou [2d\]: good ....I was worried they don't
NschoTschi [-\]: w seems fine here to me
Shedal [2d\]: Anyway, I think they pronounce it like sEntE
mihi [6d\]: B12 big
]
;B[gs]C[NschoTschi [-\]: B12 double sente?
any1 [?\]: o2 n2 l2?
Pinguschaf [7d?\]: no
alexanderp [?\]: Ilya's adventure, it doesn't work if w won't make mistake
]
;W[hs]C[jim [6d\]: m11 was strange
jim [6d\]: can cost game
]
;B[kr]C[Fenix [?\]: L2 = ?
Bruno [1d\]: ha
Bruno [1d\]: nice
snes [-\]: want to O1
NschoTschi [-\]: Ilya: I show you what aji means
jim [6d\]: N2
sameasyou [2d\]: n2
Fenix [?\]: w can just N1?
jim [6d\]: proper
alexanderp [?\]: n1 is bad
SaveYou [2k\]: wow
sameasyou [2d\]: I think Shikshin wasted many ko threats here
Bruno [1d\]: L 3 fix it
NschoTschi [-\]: n2 h2 not working?
Shedal [2d\]: umm, it's WOW, yes... but I don't see it working
prescott [1d\]: what is b trying here? 
LovroKlc [2k\]: just N2
Bruno [1d\]: use to ko to connect G 1
SaveYou [2k\]: I hope it works, so it would be a Wow)
fekand3 [1d\]: o1
JoostC [4d\]:  if o1, n2
fekand3 [1d\]: m3
Bruno [1d\]: L 3
fekand3 [1d\]: l4
MildPeril [1d\]: yeah... 01, m2, m1.. connect.. but W's move of course
]
;W[ns]
;B[hr]C[chrpa [1k\]: wow
]
;W[fs]C[NschoTschi [-\]: I called that
Bruno [1d\]: mistake
Bruno [1d\]: M 3
NschoTschi [-\]: j1
]
;B[is]C[Bruno [1d\]: M 3!
Shedal [2d\]: "Wow" is on board 1... just look what Ali is doing!
alexanderp [?\]: I hope Ali will show Kang European...well, almost European powa.
Caribe [4k\]: who is ali? is he arab or sth.?
Gizensha [?\]: scribe sleeping?
myongstu [4d\]: ko or b is alive
]
;W[gs]
;B[es]
;W[go]C[UFO [3k\]: Karekiet!
alexanderp [?\]: Caribe, he is Israeli citizen and Arab.
Bruno [1d\]: why not just M 3?
alexanderp [?\]: Btw, Israeli can be champ of Europe?
NschoTschi [-\]: show how live now!
loler [4d\]: lol
]
;B[mr]C[CatalinKGS [5k?\]: ali coes from Israel
IceSpectre [4k\]: yeah 
CatalinKGS [5k?\]: Ali comes from Israel
UFO [3k\]: popperdepoperdepop
Fenix [?\]: -.-
myongstu [4d\]: m3 m1 n1 l1 l3 p1 n2 k3 l4 k2 
CatalinKGS [5k?\]: comes
]
;W[lq]
;B[kq]C[NschoTschi [-\]: politically Israel belongs to europe
IceSpectre [4k\]: wah 
]
;W[kp]C[Gizensha [?\]: ?
]
;B[ls]C[Caribe [4k\]: never understand that
]
;W[ms]C[mooooo [7k\]: not
]
;B[ks]C[chrpa [1k\]: ilya rules
fekand3 [1d\]: p4
CatalinKGS [5k?\]: Go Popic!
]
;W[op]C[blazej [2d?\]: wow
NschoTschi [-\]: resign
alexanderp [?\]: Well...it's a very controversial statement that Israeli becomes in any sense to Europe...
IceSpectre [4k\]: that some powning 
]
;B[os]C[Bruno [1d\]: M 3 was better 
]
;W[mn]C[NschoTschi [-\]: k2 
UFO [3k\]: Eurogotv2 are you Harry too?
IceSpectre [4k\]: k2 and win this 
noned [2d\]: kinfa crazy invasion
noned [2d\]: kinda
Fenix [?\]: w shouldve o1 at n1 ^^
Pische [-\]: what an invasion
flashback [7d\]: k2
prescott [1d\]: now its a wow :)
]
;B[jr]C[Pische [-\]: yes he played it
]
;W[gf]C[Bruno [1d\]: G 4
sgjiehui [3d\]: lol weird shape
Syptryn [3d\]: ouch
Bruno [1d\]: first
Syptryn [3d\]: black lives
Syptryn [3d\]: amazing
chrpa [1k\]: black great
]
;B[gg]C[SaveYou [2k\]: ooouch..
]
;W[hf]
;B[fg]
;W[bh]C[Saradan [3k\]: so it mean white lost?
NschoTschi [-\]: y
mooooo [7k\]: f12
IceSpectre [4k\]: not yet but he is getting there 
Caribe [4k\]: you know, it was kinda my idea ^^
]
;B[bf]
;W[bn]
;B[bm]
;W[cm]
;B[bo]C[kjisu [9k\]: hrhr ;D
IceSpectre [4k\]: m14 for b 
]
;W[ea]
;B[da]C[UFO [3k\]: Popperdepopperdepop!
prescott [1d\]: eurogotv2. you are too slow ;)
Bruno [1d\]: Is Ilia moving like crazy?
Pische [-\]: no
Bruno [1d\]: ah..thanks
some1 [?\]: akookh akookh'
UFO [3k\]: hihi
noned [2d\]: euro lost the track
]
;W[fa]C[jim [6d\]: M11 and O1 lost game
IceSpectre [4k\]: for now it's b + 6~7 ? 
chrpa [1k\]: no connection only slow
Bruno [1d\]: yes but K 13 area is neutral yet
]
;B[cb]C[Bruno [1d\]: SE mark it as blanc
Caribe [4k\]: why not d18? this makes ko threat
jim [6d\]: B8
]
;W[bl]
;B[an]C[alexanderp [?\]: center is pretty big now. something like k11
Somber [8k\]: noooo is ilia losing?
Somber [8k\]: :O
Hellhuman [1d\]: bet he win
NschoTschi [-\]: B got h13 --> center went small
Somber [8k\]: hopefully
Bruno [1d\]: nice aji at D 10
]
;W[cl]C[NschoTschi [-\]: b9 connects
Caribe [4k\]: e8 f9 b9
CatalinKGS [5k?\]: Go Popic!
Caribe [4k\]: sth like that ^^
]
;B[bk]C[NschoTschi [-\]: just b9 enough
NschoTschi [-\]: o14 
humility [4d\]: e8
mihi [6d\]: E8 and then O14
ChipnDale [6k\]: b f11
Bruno [1d\]: NschiTschi with who you are?
]
;W[el]C[prescott [1d\]: we are at least 15 moves behind
Bruno [1d\]: geez
jim [6d\]: white still can win
Bruno [1d\]: JIm
]
;B[al]C[Bruno [1d\]: black is the winner
jim [6d\]: H13
mihi [6d\]: bigger than O14?
alexanderp [?\]: интересный расклад получается. It's interesting that if Ali now wins Kang and Ilya wins Pop, Kang's SOS will be worse than Ilya's and he will be #1 again.
NschoTschi [-\]: o14 was first imo
avio [2d\]: w lost h13 b played it already
Shedal [2d\]: alexanderp, i sKang losses, and Ilia wins, then Ilia will have one victory more
Bruno [1d\]: that show a lack of respect for the sensei ilia :)
Shedal [2d\]: *if
Onibaka [4k\]: according SE w+19 but b have 4 ways to reduce 
mFz [3k\]: whats the kgs name of these both players plz ?
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: roln111
Bruno [1d\]: solaris
mFz [3k\]: tx
Bruno [1d\]: i guess
avio [2d\]: there is something like bh13, wj14, wk13, wl13 on the tv
lamwu [9k\]: can b f11?
Bruno [1d\]: yahoo?
alexanderp [?\]: His surname Shikshin is a typical old Russian surname but I can't find it's meaning and history.
mFz [3k\]: does he aristocrat ?
alexanderp [?\]: No, mfz, unlikely.
NschoTschi [-\]: EuroGo can you recover?
acellist1 [4k\]: I like the word "russificized"
Caribe [4k\]: maybe an ashkenazy?
NschoTschi [-\]: or zoom in with the camera
luciangela [5k\]: igs is real time
luciangela [5k\]: kgs...slow
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: KGS crashed
alexanderp [?\]: Caribe, no, he's not Jew and his name and surname are typically Russian.
WVoron [4d\]: ....
NschoTschi [-\]: Can you zoom in with the Camera then?
WVoron [4d\]: put camera on board))
adasdsad: 14o
adasdsad: or 13 h
Caribe [4k\]: alex, what's your profession? what did you study at college?
acellist1 [4k\]: activate the Shikshin helmet-cam
neHb [1k\]: да там уже позднее есе идет
bdbdbd: shiksin = cone-like (like in the tree)
Somber [8k\]: lol ilia is a good player... but he has no manners lol
avio [2d\]: eurogotv1 is working
alexanderp [?\]: Caribe, I'm IT guy:) Studied different things, foreign languages, law.
hosainogo: EuroGoTV, everything is fine for EurogoTV1. KGS crashed only for you? :)
Somber [8k\]: i think id be worried about capturing his stones if i was white
Caribe [4k\]: cool
alexanderp [?\]: bdb - no, it's ShiSHkin, not Shikshin
bdbdbd: oh lol, i was reading it wrong the whole time
chrpa [1k\]: no alex
UFO [3k\]: Thank you Eurogotv2
alexanderp [?\]: chrpa?
chrpa [1k\]: wait
Caribe [4k\]: so is that is? where is the rest of da game?
UFO [3k\]: are you harry too?
basil [-\]: options-view offline
chrpa [1k\]: its Shikshin, not Shishkin(cone-like)
alexanderp [?\]: chrpa, that's what I wanted to say:)
chrpa [1k\]: really ? :) i read it other way round, but no matter
chrpa [1k\]: eurogo lost connects seems 
Somber [8k\]: B looks like he might be winning :O
alexanderp [?\]: Eurogo, please, at least tell us the result of this game.
IceSpectre [4k\]: crap i can't tell what is what at the angel they broadcasting 
maminti [5k\]: EuroGoTV pls zoom on the board at least!
Caribe [4k\]: b won for sure -unless w made a big comeback
Caribe [4k\]: #_#
maminti [5k\]:  EuroGoTV pls zoom on the board at least!
prescott [1d\]: how old is kang? is she a teenager?
Onibaka [4k\]: 20+
eatramen [22k\]: no
eatramen [22k\]: just 20
prescott [1d\]: thanks
Onibaka [4k\]: 20+0 ))
eatramen [22k\]: lol :p
SanekFree [7k\]: wtf!
MildPeril [1d\]: amazing use of aji by llia  there on bottom.. nice game
paketa [1d\]: илья не очко а больше выигрывает
Caribe [4k\]: did he really read the whole, or just sensed it?
Kusaki [20k\]: they are counting now
Caribe [4k\]: may be he sensei-ed ehe
DanielTom [5d\]: wow
DanielTom [5d\]: B's sequence to live in the bottom is brilliant
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: black wins
paketa [1d\]: сколько?
DanielTom [5d\]: Pop resigned?
alexanderp [?\]: are they arguing now?
erikk [-\]: with a little help from w
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: + 6.5
alexanderp [?\]: Ilya did his job. Now it's time for Ali.
Caribe [4k\]: it's quite a gap for 2-7d's i guess
alexanderp [?\]: Илья молодец:)
DanielTom [5d\]: I think the game is still slightly better for W
oktan [6k\]: б сдался?
Somber [8k\]: they discussing the game?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: I'm sorry for the bad broadcast, KGS totally crashed, writing a message in Chat takes like 20min
Bruno [1d\]: how is the game going?
lemurov [-\]: b wn already
alexanderp [?\]: oktan, нет, они досчитали
neHb [1k\]: посчитали
lemurov [-\]: b + 6.5
alexanderp [?\]: B+ 6.5 (Ilya won)
Bruno [1d\]: ty
oktan [6k\]: всё равно Илья Лучший :)
NotAfraid [3d\]: .
alexanderp [?\]: что значит "всё равно"?:)
oktan [6k\]: не смотря на поражение Артёму
alexanderp [?\]: аа...
oktan [6k\]: )
alexanderp [?\]: ну стиль у него такой, что можно влететь круто
alexanderp [?\]: В общем, если Али сейчас побеждает Канг, Илья выходит на первое место снова.
oktan [6k\]: победителей не судят ;)
jmh2 [2k\]: thx Eurogotv 
alexanderp [?\]: А дальше соперники всё слабее и слабее, он прошёл всех сильных.
UFO [3k\]: zoef...
jmh2 [2k\]: great game
A1R [4k\]: is the game over?
ArtemiyGo [6k\]: как они посчитали нече не понял
Begon1d [7k\]: B+6,5
alexanderp [?\]: а, нет, он с Джабарином не сыграл как раз. Ilya will play Ali Jabarin it seems.
Syptryn [3d\]: eh
Syptryn [3d\]: what happened to tes of this game?
UFO [3k\]: ?
Syptryn [3d\]: rest
UFO [3k\]: yes teatime
dima777 [2d\]: а кто выграл
UFO [3k\]: what a beautiful letters
cherisse [1k\]: congrats illia!
UFO [3k\]: what is this language?
sinshou [-\]: its russian
glint [-\]: UFO, russian
UFO [3k\]: oke thanks
lemurov [-\]: илья играл с джабарином
lemurov [-\]: в 3 туре
avio [2d\]: on igral
lemurov [-\]: очень интересно как сыграли артем и саша
avio [2d\]: ilia biigral
alexanderp [?\]: тогда Илье остается сыграть с Корнелом
alexanderp [?\]: вроде
alexanderp [?\]: Артём играл против Динерштейна сегодня?
nmh [1d\]: the game finished?
alexanderp [?\]: Артём, как я понимаю, выиграл Меро
alexanderp [?\]: nmh, yes, b+6.5
sinshou [-\]: is the game over?
alexanderp [?\]: yes, sinshou
nmh [1d\]: oh,thanks
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;W[do]C[alexanderp [?\]: Did you know Ilya's name is russificized version of hebrew Iliahu that means "Yahwe is my God"?:)
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