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GN[European Go Congress 2010 Round 4 Board 2]PW[Ilya Shikshin]PB[Catalin Taranu]WR[7d]BR[5p]DT[2010-07-29]RO[4]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Liselot]C[gfdhff [4k\]: Ilya will win
Blitzbold [1d\]: no
hosainogo: no
Isobeutel [4k\]: very good games today
Oleksandr [1k\]: Ilya will be winner on this table
hosainogo: no way :)
oddalot [5k\]: i think catalin won by .5 last time
WVoron [4d\]: я фигею..Сурин с Динером)))
Oleksandr [1k\]: Сурин подедит
Oleksandr [1k\]: ))
Vega5 [?\]: ilya won
st21 [-\]: b no chance
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;B[dc]C[lalicoasa [3k\]: both are my favorites
oddalot [5k\]: why top left?
mur [1k\]: hey EuroGoTV2, is there gonna be a video translation of the match?
oddalot [5k\]: disrespectful
lalicoasa [3k\]: the first move is R16 actually
oddalot [5k\]: oh
lalicoasa [3k\]: so catalin is in the right side of the board
hosainogo: explica-le lalicoas-o ca astia nu inteleg nimic :-)
oddalot [5k\]: rare sideboard game
lalicoasa [3k\]: :)
donGoku [4k\]: Is any hungarian master on the congress, anybody knows?
hosainogo: define master :)
Eilinen [-\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/registered.php?sort=5
mur [1k\]:  board1 in contrast has the correct moves shown
gfdhff [4k\]: lonly Artem
hosainogo: Ilya escaped? :)
mur [1k\]: both Artem and Catalin made the same first moves, yet they are shown in a different way here
oddalot [5k\]: maybe computer is facing different way
hosainogo: @mur: that's because Eurogotv doesn't want us to be bored :)
mur [1k\]: ^^
VariantVL [2k?\]: iks there a live broadcast for this?
mur [1k\]: yep: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
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;W[dp]C[eatramen [19k?\]: the &d isnt a pro?
eatramen [19k?\]: *7d
motaba [1k\]: nope, he's 7d
mur [1k\]: and both Ilya and Kang answered in similar ways :)
eatramen [19k?\]: i see
Excalibor [-\]: i think 4-4 in that direction is a good way to limit the 3-4 stone direction power...
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;W[nc]C[VariantVL [2k?\]: hmm
VariantVL [2k?\]: i like the splitting play better.
VariantVL [2k?\]: black can pincer here
eatramen [19k?\]: wheree can i see this game
eatramen [19k?\]: imseeing the kang artem game on ustream
Excalibor [-\]: a pincer at l17 looks big now
elvard [2k\]: l17 is old fashion... I hope Catalin will show something more interesting :)
mixed [2k?\]: anyway explain me why shows Off Air ?
mixed [2k?\]: ..
Excalibor [-\]: maybe old fashion but it makes for a lot of purposes :)
Excalibor [-\]: L17 O15 P/Q14 K16 L16 and we are in an interesting game :)
crizz [2k\]: go catalin !!
mixed [2k?\]: Hehe Off Air for me :/
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;B[kc]C[VariantVL [2k?\]: this move took a long while
mixed [2k?\]: l17 bad 
Talio [6k\]: xD i love kgs
mixed [2k?\]: xD
nimble [2k?\]: D
Excalibor [-\]: nod... will Catalin be analizing some games like he did in other congresses? I'd love to watch him explaining this one!
vaudevil [4k\]: yeah, those videos were great
Excalibor [-\]: of course Ilya is known for not always being reasonably predictable, so let's see his reply :)
mixed [2k?\]: i think catalin will win maybe
mixed [2k?\]: but is 50m komi for w =/
Himura [1d\]: llya will win
mixed [2k?\]: 50 komi for w
mixed [2k?\]: hard for b
ZeroKun [-\]: if those 2 get their faces closer to the board theyll be kissing it
Talio [6k\]: that's what everyone expects, yes
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;W[qc]C[HlFl [-\]: Catalin has a lot of nervous energy at the board.
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;B[qd]C[usagi [1d\]: r16
usagi [1d\]: yeah
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;W[md]C[usagi [1d\]: p17
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;B[od]C[usagi [1d\]: OOoh a new move? I don't have this one 
Pepijn [2d\]: hm isnt this confusion of 2 joseki?
Pepijn [2d\]: with the higher far pincer?
Boogeyman [2k\]: p18 ?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: hey pepijn!
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: waarom ben je neit op het congress(liselot)
usagi [1d\]: L16
Pepijn [2d\]: :) hey eurogotiv2 :)
Pepijn [2d\]: LISELOT!!
Pepijn [2d\]: omdat ik naar China ga in september
Pepijn [2d\]: voor 3 mnd
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: oooohjaaaa
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: dat had je me al vertelt ja
Pepijn [2d\]: dus...
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: cool men
Pepijn [2d\]: hoe is het daar?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: nee dan geef ik je groot gelijk
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: jaa top:D
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: superlekker weer
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: leuke omgeving
Pepijn [2d\]: leuk :)
donGoku [4k\]: o14
Pepijn [2d\]: zijn Alex en Michiel er ook?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yess
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: en Hugo
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Robert
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: wel weinig "oude garde"
Pepijn [2d\]: leuk :)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: rudi en ronald zijn er, andreas
Pepijn [2d\]: ja - die komen volgend jaar weer
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: judith harry
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: jaa idd
mixed [2k?\]: eurogotv
mixed [2k?\]: ur there?
Pepijn [2d\]: doe de anderen de groetjes en veel plezier verder
mixed [2k?\]: are the ip brasilians blocked?
mixed [2k?\]: the video appears offline for me =/
ZeroKun [-\]: oh wow, i finally found out who white was, used to watch him alot
Excalibor [-\]: interesting game so far
mixed [2k?\]: what is happening
mixed [2k?\]: ?
st21 [-\]: p18?
usagi [1d\]: white is roln111 right?
ZeroKun [-\]: yup
st21 [-\]: w looks fail
mixed [2k?\]: why video off air for me? someone explain me ..
ZeroKun [-\]: i knew i knew that last name too redrose's brother lol
mixed [2k?\]: why video off air for me? someone explain me ..
motaba [1k\]: ask your ISP
mixed [2k?\]: why video off air for me? someone explain me ..
ZeroKun [-\]: calm down mixed
mixed [2k?\]: ^^
mixed [2k?\]: keep comenting ignoring me
mixed [2k?\]: nice admin
mixed [2k?\]: :P
ZeroKun [-\]: if i knew id tell you, as i dont run the site i do not know
mixed [2k?\]: i would never turn a gold one like that
mixed [2k?\]: ^^
mixed [2k?\]: bb
imback [3k\]: play already!!!
HlFl [-\]: video working fine for me mixed
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;W[me]C[usagi [1d\]: p14 my guess
mixed [2k?\]: for me not shows off air thats impossible im loged on.. i refreshed video.. i restarted pc.. that must be ip brasilian blocked
usagi [1d\]: p14 to keep white split up
Bembelbote [-\]: who cares for the video broadcast? you would only take a quick look at the persons and close it right away. so come over it, man :)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yeah for today we blocked the brasilians for the stream
usagi [1d\]: black already has territory now so p14.. any ideas?
mixed [2k?\]: are u serious lol
mixed [2k?\]: ?
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;B[pb]C[hngryhippo [4k\]: why bvlock brasil?
Bembelbote [-\]: of course he is
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: haha no, i dunno
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i'm a girl:p
mixed [2k?\]: --"
ZeroKun [-\]: is ilya even taking this seriously? lol walked off to watch another game after he moved
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: not eurogotv himself, he's broadcasting board 1
Bembelbote [-\]: their blocking randomly exactly one country id the day. :P
harpo [?\]: blond girl ^^
mixed [2k?\]: can u ask for him why this problem i cant watch?.. thx
usagi [1d\]: this is a rather common opening
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yeah sure, i'll ask him when he has time
usagi [1d\]: and illya chose the double approach
usagi [1d\]: it is possiblehe studied this beforehand.
avio [2d\]: 2 days ago Catalin had big probs because of little territory
mixed [2k?\]: becouse he is kinda arrogant and dont speak .. he just says  http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
HlFl [-\]: Ilya carries a lot of intensity at the board.
ZeroKun [-\]: i know, was only kidding
Pepijn [2d\]: Brasil is blocked because of bad soccer performance
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;W[nf]C[mixed [2k?\]: lmao
veiron [10k\]: how win catalin or Rob Van
Pepijn [2d\]: catalin
veiron [10k\]: ?
mixed [2k?\]: s14?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: catalin won against Rob
veiron [10k\]: how score?
WangFei [-\]: 3,5 pts
radishimo [4k\]: is ilya.. roln?
mixed [2k?\]: catalin is smart
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yes
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ilya is roln
mixed [2k?\]: playing vs weak players easy win
mixed [2k?\]: hehehe
mixed [2k?\]: try lee see dol and hard play^^
avio [2d\]: Catalin is a calm and deep player
avio [2d\]: I guess, a real pro
ZeroKun [-\]: dont see many lefties either
mixed [2k?\]: but a non top pro
avio [2d\]: he started late (15 years old)
mixed [2k?\]: i think top pros dont spent time in tourneys like that
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;B[kg]C[mixed [2k?\]: but thats fine.... lets enjoy
HlFl [-\]: i wish Taranu release a dvd commentary of his best games!
mixed [2k?\]: hm now s15 would be strange
mixed [2k?\]: i hope taranu know what he is doing
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;W[dj]C[Pepijn [2d\]: Eurogtv> Who you predict will win :)
mixed [2k?\]: boring for me cant watch video =/
Martin82 [11k?\]: what about that black goup in the upper right corner? does anyone know?
Pepijn [2d\]: what about it?
Martin82 [11k?\]: is it safe?
avio [2d\]: w s15 b s16 and w get's nothing
HlFl [-\]: does C.T mainly just play in Europe now?
Martin82 [11k?\]: ok ty
motaba [1k\]: you tried to refresh the page, didn't you?
mixed [2k?\]: sure 
mixed [2k?\]: xD
HlFl [-\]: somebody just honked their horn outside mixed.
Excalibor [-\]: i like white's position overall
mixed [2k?\]: well i tryed delet the temporary files... restart computer.. change ip... used mozila, internet, opera, nothing worked
motaba [1k\]: if internet didn't help there's no much hope
mixed [2k?\]: thats really strange
mixed [2k?\]: i aways can watch eurogotv and today nothing worked 
gooooo [10k\]: same here
gooooo [10k\]: I think it has to do with flash versions or something
mixed [2k?\]: hm
mixed [2k?\]: i will try update flash version so
gooooo [10k\]: I have the latest :(
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;B[pj]C[mixed [2k?\]: god.. thats really weird
mixed [2k?\]: eurogo thinks thats a joke but not --"
mixed [2k?\]: q10 :) nice move
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i want to help u with ur stream, but i can't right now
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: EuroGoTV is at board 1, broadcasting the game
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: if he has time, i'll ask him immediately
mixed [2k?\]: yes but alot my friends cant watch =/
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: we also had some problems with the stream this morning
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: it's no via the usual way for so far as i know
mixed [2k?\]: i want just donate something for use the full systemtv but it seems he hates money :)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: hahahahaha =D
mixed [2k?\]: what now
mixed [2k?\]: k3?
Tristero [2d\]: s14
Martin82 [11k?\]: suddenly ws group seems to be under pressure
mixed [2k?\]: or profit  n15 group
mixed [2k?\]: :|
mixed [2k?\]: loooks bad for w
holynec [?\]: how come this game so slow
holynec [?\]: :kl
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;W[ql]C[mixed [2k?\]: woa
mixed [2k?\]: p13
altrecop [1k\]: too soon i think 
altrecop [1k\]: you help w to be stronger
mixed [2k?\]: or that or that comes first
avio [2d\]: it's slow because one of the players is pro
altrecop [1k\]: i was thinking about and first impression was p13 :D
altrecop [1k\]: but after p13 what?
mixed [2k?\]: p13 is great
mixed [2k?\]: come on -.-
Peritoine [2k?\]: maybe tenuki
altrecop [1k\]: ok ok =_=
donGoku [4k\]: really slow game
mixed [2k?\]: if the pro plays p13 i will laught
mixed [2k?\]: but looks like he will play something very diff
altrecop [1k\]: where is the fun part of p13? :D
mixed [2k?\]: is mi mov man
mixed [2k?\]: :))
donGoku [4k\]: i say r6
altrecop [1k\]: haha
donGoku [4k\]: ^^
mixed [2k?\]: all called thats weird and suck.. if he plays will be fun -.-
mixed [2k?\]: probabily not
altrecop [1k\]: no
altrecop [1k\]: i was thinking in something like p8
mixed [2k?\]: p8 is very strange
altrecop [1k\]: preparing the attack to corner and to that w group
altrecop [1k\]: yes i don't like it :D was thinking about that zone
altrecop [1k\]: but p8 for w i also a big point
mixed [2k?\]: XD its
altrecop [1k\]: any dan can help the kyus here? :)
mixed [2k?\]: fitness can maybe
altrecop [1k\]: yeah, or dino9
reprisal [3d\]: o10, p9, p13 are on the top of my mind
Excalibor [-\]: it's a very interesting game
mixed [2k?\]: o10 p9 -.- thats low
mixed [2k?\]: pls another
adiida [3k\]: catalin reads deeper than ilya ... he's getting to tenuki often because of that ... should he save o14 (hopefully in sente :) ) , he should win this 
altrecop [1k\]: what do you think about p8 reprisal
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;B[qf]C[donGoku [4k\]: and s13?
altrecop [1k\]: plas
altrecop [1k\]: :D
reprisal [3d\]: i like p9 better than p8
mixed [2k?\]: r14 no one ...
reprisal [3d\]: p8 doesnt seem to do enough to o14 group to me
mixed [2k?\]: thats really boring easy move and no one talk about r14..
reprisal [3d\]: hmm not an easy move for me to see :)
altrecop [1k\]: because of s14 w sente maybe ;?
mixed [2k?\]: now i want c how w will make the shape
altrecop [1k\]: i was right too soon for p13 :P
altrecop [1k\]: hehe
reprisal [3d\]: i take it w can not r13?
mixed [2k?\]: r13 and if b q13?
mixed [2k?\]: isnt hard?
reprisal [3d\]: presumably
holynec [?\]: did white lose s14?
Dino9 [6d\]: boring game
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;W[qg]C[altrecop [1k\]: lol dino, we were expecting something more constructive
Neverhood [3k\]: r8 looks so wrong...
mixed [2k?\]: r8 looks the first to get area =/
altrecop [1k\]: i like r8
altrecop [1k\]: points, pressure :?
altrecop [1k\]: with p8 later
Neverhood [3k\]: should have played around s14 first!
altrecop [1k\]: yah maybe
rhfcaesar [1d\]: q13
Blitzbold [1d\]: who was this?
Martin82 [11k?\]: i think game is slow, because they are never at the board ;)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i guess it was me ?!
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;B[pg]C[chimbba [2k\]: oh
Blitzbold [1d\]: oh :)
mixed [2k?\]: haha eurogotv1 here is censored... he is boring
rhfcaesar [1d\]: p14
reprisal [3d\]: i hate crosscuts
DeathWind [1k\]: black looks pretty good
reprisal [3d\]: i can never read them
Martin82 [11k?\]: to my highkyu eyes w looks so in trouble...
mixed [2k?\]: its very easy...
DeathWind [1k\]: not in trouble but black gets a lot of points here
mixed [2k?\]: if u position good.. crosscut^^ then just have lucky becouse 90% u will get not bad position
reprisal [3d\]: what if your position is equal though
mixed [2k?\]: then i lose
DeathWind [1k\]: cross cut leads to reasonably big exchange
reprisal [3d\]: you dont start every game ahead :)
mixed [2k?\]: rofl
Martin82 [11k?\]: this n15 seems to be surrounded more and more, and has no eyes
mixed [2k?\]: but he is pro
altrecop [1k\]: don't worry, n15 is commanded by a 7d
mixed [2k?\]: i would p13
mixed [2k?\]: so r13 turns just aji
mixed [2k?\]: and makes shape for w
mixed [2k?\]: :X
reprisal [3d\]: you just ditch r13?
rhfcaesar [1d\]: I like p14
mixed [2k?\]: p13 pls
reprisal [3d\]: why play r13 if you are just going to scrap it
DeathWind [1k\]: really nothing much for white at the top right now =/
mixed [2k?\]: becouse fight here not good
reprisal [3d\]: p13 and pushing gives up way too many
mixed [2k?\]: w to weak
mixed [2k?\]: forget the r13 stone and p13 come on
altrecop [1k\]: o12 here... i don't see which interesting point ha that crosscut for w
reprisal [3d\]: it is also admitting r13 is a huge mistake
reprisal [3d\]: which is pretty bad, means he didnt even read one obvious move
mixed [2k?\]: well 
altrecop [1k\]: hey cmon he's a 7d
altrecop [1k\]: :)
altrecop [1k\]: he has read 100 variations more than us
altrecop [1k\]: in that crosscut
reprisal [3d\]: presumably, yes
reprisal [3d\]: but im curious what he is reading now that he didnt read before r13
DeathWind [1k\]: Q12 now?
altrecop [1k\]: me too 
Pepijn [2d\]: ey Albertine :)
reprisal [3d\]: when b played r14 i assumed r13 would not work
reprisal [3d\]: because if r13 works i wouldnt think r14 would be good
altrecop [1k\]: sure :D
beginner93 [1k\]: w hard to handle n14 group and r13
mixed [2k?\]: its very fun crosscut when ur ahead like reprisal told
altrecop [1k\]: maybe he wants to fight for that corner
KptMorgan [3d\]: Q12 probably
altrecop [1k\]: with the aji of r17 and r13
mixed [2k?\]: i really would p13 good eye shape for w
zizu [-\]: white is weak is common sentence if someone dont understand high dan moves....
reprisal [3d\]: it isnt even good eyeshape
altrecop [1k\]: anyway you can't please black with that points at 3rd line
reprisal [3d\]: p13 q12 p12 p11....w is pushing behind
altrecop [1k\]: i assume that's not the plan
KptMorgan [3d\]: he will not play p13, thats 100%
altrecop [1k\]: p13 q12 r15 s14 s15 q15 s16 ;?
altrecop [1k\]: ah no :D
reprisal [3d\]: no...
reprisal [3d\]: r15 is useless
rhfcaesar [1d\]: p14
Blitzbold [1d\]: i am still freezed; it was you EuroGoTv2?
Martin82 [11k?\]: at least now we can be sure we read more in the game than the players ;)
mixed [2k?\]: p14.... just makes ladder breaker tenuki for b
Shedal [2d\]: it takes so long, because they develop a new joseki
Blitzbold [1d\]: wow
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;W[ph]C[Martin82 [11k?\]: ok theyre back now
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;W[of]C[Martin82 [11k?\]: smoker(s)?
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;B[rg]C[mixed [2k?\]: fast play now b read all
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;B[oh]C[mixed [2k?\]: w will die if he keeps like that 
hosainogo: let him keep it LOL
mixed [2k?\]: KEEP!
mixed [2k?\]: keep hane
mixed [2k?\]: lol
Martin82 [11k?\]: r 10
rhfcaesar [1d\]: n12 then r15
Neverhood [3k\]: p11 makes some sense, no?
DeathWind [1k\]: can't play r 10
mixed [2k?\]: p11 pushes  b for w weak group
reprisal [3d\]: problem with p11 is that it helps kill o14
smartrobot [9d?\]: where does w come from?
Bazilikan [2k\]: is there a feed for this one"?
reprisal [3d\]: russia, i imagine
reprisal [3d\]: name looks pretty russian at least
mixed [2k?\]: russ^^
smartrobot [9d?\]: i see, thanks
fdfff: probablz russia
mixed [2k?\]: smart
mixed [2k?\]: any coment about game? :)
nay4ok [2d?\]: not probabl it is
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;W[qj]C[mixed [2k?\]: 11k wins
DeathWind [1k\]: lol
Martin82 [11k?\]: oui!
DeathWind [1k\]: black N12 now
HlFl [-\]: does EuroGoTV2 know what games will be broadcast Thursday?
fdfff: smartrobot do zou see dead n 15 group_
mixed [2k?\]: or q11 first
DeathWind [1k\]: I prefer white played N12 instead
reprisal [3d\]: usually n13 is better form than n12
reprisal [3d\]: if you are going to play there
DeathWind [1k\]: why?
zizu [-\]: shikshin on the boat again
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;B[re]C[HlFl [-\]: Does anyone know what games will be broadcast Thursday?
mixed [2k?\]: Wao
smartrobot [9d?\]: no worry about life of n15 i think
reprisal [3d\]: n12 leaves bad aji at o12 and n13
fdfff: thx
Luna86 [9k\]: Hifi...today is thursday
mixed [2k?\]: n12 now?
HlFl [-\]: o right :P
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;W[kb]C[HlFl [-\]: Does anyone know what games will be broadcast Friday :)
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;W[jd]C[mixed [2k?\]: i dont becouse im blocked =/
Martin82 [11k?\]: suprise, crosscutrevenge
HlFl [-\]: ???
mixed [2k?\]: w want sepair l13 ~p13 from  k15 but looks non sense
sfsfs: nice
sfsfs: catalin playin
mixed [2k?\]: j16
Martin82 [11k?\]: j16 is met by k14 i suppose?
sfsfs: what is this euro congress?
HlFl [-\]: its the shiznit
reprisal [3d\]: martin>>yes
Joakim [13k\]: is the game over?
PtitLudo [3d\]: no
mixed [2k?\]: j16  k14  j15  l14 
Martin82 [11k?\]: reprisal >> ty
sfsfs: many more games will be today?
mixed [2k?\]: then q11
mixed [2k?\]: but i forget m15
mixed [2k?\]: =/
Martin82 [11k?\]: k17?
reprisal [3d\]: k17 is similar to j16
Luna86 [9k\]: Hifi, pairing of tomorrow can't be done untill results of this round are in, so tomorrows pairing comes around 8pm, maybe even tomorrow morning
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;B[lb]C[cherisse [1k\]: i love catalin's pro~ness
WVoron [4d\]: l19
WVoron [4d\]: ?
mixed [2k?\]: l19? wat
stf7 [1k\]: m16^^
mixed [2k?\]: isnt that very weak for w?
mixed [2k?\]: just making alot aji  / weak   n15 group
reprisal [3d\]: no l19 is just standard shape prevention move
reprisal [3d\]: since l18 is dead anyway
Martin82 [11k?\]: k17 l19 m16 l18 k14 ?
adiida [3k\]: k17
mixed [2k?\]: i mean w 
mixed [2k?\]: this dont looks good
mixed [2k?\]: i can see only b stones sorounding
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;W[jf]C[wither [5k\]: web link please?
Martin82 [11k?\]: http://www.eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
wither [5k\]: ty
mixed [2k?\]: w can make p13 group stronger verry very easy fast
mixed [2k?\]: i mean B*
DeathWind [1k\]: b go for ko I think
mixed [2k?\]: i dont think l14 is good
mixed [2k?\]: j15 good points^^
reprisal [3d\]: ko would be sweet
Martin82 [11k?\]: you mean l14 j15 m14 ko?
reprisal [3d\]: m15 not m14, but yes
Martin82 [11k?\]: sure, was typo tx
FITNESS [9d\]: not sure what b is thinking about
reprisal [3d\]: what to have for breakfast :)
PtitLudo [3d\]: Ilya plays quickly compare to Catalin
mixed [2k?\]: -.-
]
;B[ie]C[mixed [2k?\]: =) like i told lots aji bad weak group l14 =/
sohigh [1k\]: b is wondering what to do with his center stones after j15 
cherisse [1k\]: hi harry potter
mixed [2k?\]: lol
sohigh [1k\]: i guess (:
reprisal [3d\]: b has p11, they should be okay
reprisal [3d\]: it's not like w is actually alive yet
AllNewSad [4d\]: p11 ?
mixed [2k?\]: he is fine...
mixed [2k?\]: l14 =/
]
;W[kf]C[just9x9 [-\]: omg almost no moves here
furr [?\]: L13 looks misplaced now?
reprisal [3d\]: well yes, thats the point
reprisal [3d\]: but w paid a lot of points to sever it
NschoTschi [-\]: 42 is the number of squares on a real Goban
NschoTschi [-\]: 42 moves here
Pepijn [2d\]: the answer!
reprisal [3d\]: real goban is 7x6? sounds like fun
reprisal [3d\]: like 9x9, but more cramped. and solvable!
NschoTschi [-\]: no reprisal on real goban sides ar not same length
Martin82 [11k?\]: w managed to bring the helf-enclosured n15 out into the centre
NschoTschi [-\]: its 12/13
Martin82 [11k?\]: i like it because i worried about this group (too) much
NschoTschi [-\]: that makes 42 perfect squares 
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;B[oi]C[sfsfs: this is shaping up to be a good game
mixed [2k?\]: p11 so looks strong enought
]
;W[qi]C[mixed [2k?\]: b should push w for left side
mixed [2k?\]: in j12
mixed [2k?\]: then atack d10
]
;B[ki]C[mixed [2k?\]: :O
sohigh [1k\]: weak center=loss
sohigh [1k\]: so b strengthens it ;P
sfsfs: sohigh w isnt alive yet :)
sohigh [1k\]: but w will be alive.
sfsfs: of course
sohigh [1k\]: no doubt (:
reprisal [3d\]: heh, that's your solution to weak groups?
reprisal [3d\]: "they will live in the end, so it's all good" ?
reprisal [3d\]: :)
sfsfs: i didnt say that
sohigh [1k\]: didnt say anything to w`s weak group
mixed [2k?\]: they will live whit 0 points ultil get conected whit d10 ^^^
mixed [2k?\]: b plays easy
sohigh [1k\]: just said thats important for b to strengthens the center in order to not get countered-
mixed [2k?\]: j14?
sfsfs: id rather be shot than play j14 here
]
;W[lg]
;B[lh]
;W[jg]
;B[hf]C[mixed [2k?\]: weird
mixed [2k?\]: ...
]
;W[ji]
;B[jj]
;W[kj]
;B[jh]C[nay4ok [2d?\]: no
IASIGOCUP [-\]: go catalin
mixed [2k?\]: maaaaaaaaa
nay4ok [2d?\]: bypass
mixed [2k?\]: this is
mixed [2k?\]: !
mixed [2k?\]: the pro ko
mixed [2k?\]: ......
mixed [2k?\]: amazing for b
sfsfs: not yet mixed
sfsfs: unless you can read it out :)
mixed [2k?\]: sure is
mixed [2k?\]: l12 dont works
mixed [2k?\]: just bad shape for w
Peritoine [2k?\]: M16
jjermann [4d?\]: j11
jjermann [4d?\]: and make a moyo on the bottom
sfsfs: yea but can you live then ?
]
;W[li]C[mixed [2k?\]: lol
Wagaboo [11k\]: wow what is white doing Oo
mixed [2k?\]: something idiot against a 5p
jjermann [4d?\]: b will get an ugly shape
]
;B[ii]
;W[kh]
;B[qk]
;W[ji]C[sfsfs: oo
]
;B[rk]C[Fredegas [4d\]: please once and for end, if Catalin is top european (with Dinerschtein), than Ilya is nb. 3 for sure, with very little difference between them, so stop this "pro is god" comment
jjermann [4d?\]: ponnuki in the center
Martin82 [11k?\]: big trade?
Pepijn [2d\]: multinuki
Peritoine [2k?\]: i prefere b
sameasyou [2d\]: I think w won in this exchange
sameasyou [2d\]: w has to capture again
Peritoine [2k?\]: 2 corners and a bord
jjermann [4d?\]: hmm
jjermann [4d?\]: I dont think w _has_ to capture
jjermann [4d?\]: K4 loooks fine too
Martin82 [11k?\]: j12 no?
mihi [6d\]: w has to capture
sameasyou [2d\]: j12 next...can bet anything :)
jjermann [4d?\]: but if b takes w can still take M12 and if b extends w can start a fight?
]
;W[pk]C[NschoTschi [-\]: roln usually really knows how to master a big ko
Martin82 [11k?\]: lost anything lol ;)
sameasyou [2d\]: :)
Martin82 [11k?\]: everything*
sameasyou [2d\]: good I didn;t say everything
]
;B[ki]C[Martin82 [11k?\]: s8 or something?
jjermann [4d?\]: w can kill P13 I thiunk
jjermann [4d?\]: think
IASIGOCUP [-\]: p10
jjermann [4d?\]: Q8 possible ?
]
;W[mh]C[Martin82 [11k?\]: thats a complicated fight here
]
;B[pl]C[dferer: not complicate, black far ahead
]
;W[ok]
;B[rj]
;W[rl]C[jjermann [4d?\]: lol
]
;B[pi]C[dferer: Q8.............why???
dferer: why not S8
jjermann [4d?\]: it would be bad for b
mihi [6d\]: b ahead 
]
;W[jp]C[BigJimBeef [7k\]: Can anyone tell me what the difference between D and P levels are? Is 7d vs 5p an even match?
jjermann [4d?\]: but not far ahead
sohigh [1k\]: pro ranks dont refer to strength
sohigh [1k\]: but to achievements
]
;B[ol]C[KptMorgan [3d\]: just disregard the rankings, this is a game either player could win
sohigh [1k\]: amateur ranks refer to strength totally
Luna86 [9k\]: yes, but 7dan could also be closer to 8d or 9dan even, but hasn't won the WAGC
jjermann [4d?\]: 1p is counted as 7d in egf
jjermann [4d?\]: 2p is counted as 2730, ... 9p counted as 2940 points
BigJimBeef [7k\]: So you have to win a tournament to get a 9d or 8d ranking? What achievements can you earn as a P?
Luna86 [9k\]: but you can also be 5dan who plays as same strenght as 3dan, cos your rank is based on your highest strength
]
;W[ec]C[jjermann [4d?\]: in egf database it is simply based on your rating
jjermann [4d?\]: if you have over 2700 => 7d if you have over 2800 => 8d
]
;B[dd]
;W[db]
;B[cb]C[MaxMakinen [2k\]: jiermann, that the egf counts something as something, doesn't make it true...
MaxMakinen [2k\]: specially when its never really been tested with professional players ;)
jjermann [4d?\]: there is no absolute truth anyway
Himura [1d\]: the truth is in the eye of the beholder
hngryhippo [4k\]: there is no spoon
Luna86 [9k\]: true, and I believe they use GoR for pairing, but the real x-dan value is awared one, not something that changes up and down
BigJimBeef [7k\]: I was just curious, i see a lot of 1p and 2p on KGS but they usually have private games. 
hngryhippo [4k\]: pro accounts can't play rated games
hngryhippo [4k\]: usually just here to teach
Martin82 [11k?\]: well "there is no absolut truth". at least thats true, isnt it? ;)
Luna86 [9k\]: I think it would be actually be best for kibitzers that think about rank to show players GoR's
Martin82 [11k?\]: so maybe there is...
BigJimBeef [7k\]: whats a GoR?
IASIGOCUP [-\]: g18?
Luna86 [9k\]: Similar system that ELO is in chess
adiida [3k\]: j18?
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;W[ic]C[jjermann [4d?\]: I think GoR it is not a bad estimate for strength
Yggdrasil [6k\]: interesante
Peritoine [2k?\]: l 19
IASIGOCUP [-\]: h18
Neverhood [3k\]: pass
StefanRadu [1k\]: h17 maybe
Wagaboo [11k\]: someone has a 503 error on eurogotv?
badmoves [7k?\]: h17 is fine for me
Luna86 [9k\]: jjermann, atleast it's better than a "random" single digit number that is called as kyu or dan rank
mareck [11k\]: lol
]
;B[hc]
;W[hb]
;B[gc]
;W[ib]
;B[gb]
;W[ka]C[Higanbana [?\]: nice
Martin82 [11k?\]: w want to kill l17 no?
Higanbana [?\]: i think he just did
jjermann [4d?\]: kyu/dan rank is actually a very nice concept since (in theory) it directly tells you how many handicap to take
Wagaboo [11k\]: and dan ranks can give big head
furr [?\]: kuy/dan concept exists only because they didn't know elo system
Martin82 [11k?\]: did b see that l 19 coming? i dont think so
jjermann [4d?\]: I guess we agree to disagree
Higanbana [?\]: kyu / dan exists in a lot more than Go
Wagaboo [11k\]: kyu dans aren't they a old system?
sfsfs: good old 4k l19
onegoal [3k\]: I am shodan in ikebana
ZT1LB [3d\]: ikebana?
MilanMilan [9d\]: ...
Wagaboo [11k\]: ikebana?
Pata [?\]: kyu=student, dan=teacher ???
stf7 [1k\]: you can be shodan in that?
eatramen [19k?\]: why does the 5p have the black pieces in this game isnt he higher than 7d?
eatramen [19k?\]: *stones
stf7 [1k\]: haha
Mandos [2k\]: eatramen it's even game :>
Higanbana [?\]: m19?
jjermann [4d?\]: what about the current position?
jjermann [4d?\]: who is ahead?
profi [2d\]: is k17 the only move?
Higanbana [?\]: probably tenuki though right?
profi [2d\]: or is it small?
MBartelt [2k\]: catalin retired pro @ eatramen, since both are then ranked 7d either can play black
Neverhood [3k\]: k17 j16 ?
jjermann [4d?\]: I prefer w at the moment
Wagaboo [11k\]: i bet on a tenuki
patrickelo [5k\]: k17 j16 k19 h16 ?
adiida [3k\]: doesn't work  ... l17 dead
Martin82 [11k?\]: i'll tenuki on a bet
eyefull [?\]: it looks like black has forgotten the lower half of the board
Neverhood [3k\]: h16 wrong
agatak [10k\]: why did b extend after h 17
jjermann [4d?\]: what will w play if b plays K17?
MilanMilan [9d\]: o3
agatak [10k\]: instead of j16?
MilanMilan [9d\]: b should tenuki now
MilanMilan [9d\]: J16 is not good
sfsfs: milan who is ahead in your opinion?
BuFFoon [10k\]: time??
MilanMilan [9d\]: b should just tenuki
jjermann [4d?\]: hmm why o3?
MilanMilan [9d\]: w
MilanMilan [9d\]: but not much
jjermann [4d?\]: R7 is no good?
jjermann [4d?\]: well too small anyway I guess
AllNewSad [4d\]: k17 
profi [2d\]: c3 
jjermann [4d?\]: k17 is gote
Higanbana [?\]: what about f3?
WVoron [4d\]: who won on 3d board???
andreiraz [5k\]: GO CATALIN!!!!!!!!
radishimo [4k\]: ilve stream link for this one?
fatihsulak [-\]: e17 seems very nice
NschoTschi [-\]: o9 ?
Yggdrasil [6k\]: GO Ilya!!!!! ¬¬U
Luna86 [9k\]: http://www.eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
radishimo [4k\]: we need a mobile kang camera
neodius [5k?\]: Каталин в очень тяжелых раздумьях.  Илья тоже нервничает. Встал, прохаживается вокруг.
Zitrone [1k\]: k19 k17 m19 l18 l19 n18 n19 make multistep ko?
Xodd [13k\]: i agree neodius
Zitrone [1k\]: lol no sorry
Nelsson [3k\]: nervous?
jascooper [6k?\]: These guys are so slow; Kang beat her guy and is halfway home.
ltjbukem [1k\]: Вроде Каталин женское имя, а фото гдето видел мужское - что за дела?
Larrave [1d\]: its nice to have a pro in this gamechat:D
neodius [5k?\]: Это мужчина
NorthWind [5k\]: omg, move 80 only :D
Hellhuman [1d\]: who cares about pro in a chat if he is not chatting^^?
Larrave [1d\]: he does
jjermann [4d?\]: I am still trying to understand the meaning of B O3
sfsfs: catalin is about to find a tesuji that doesnt exist
Higanbana [?\]: black seems to be focused on the top area in the video stream
Draxt [3k\]: n18 ?
Kickchon [?\]: huh? first board is already over? Oo
Luna86 [9k\]: Kang is still undefeated, if you don't count rapid tournament where she lost to Antti Törmänen on 1st round
Hellhuman [1d\]: milan, thnk youre stronger than catalin :P?
MilanChe [-\]: I'm not
jenj [6k\]: :)
Hellhuman [1d\]: good one che
chibisai [2k\]: milan stronger!
erickoston [2d\]: How much time do they have left?
adiida [3k\]: too much ...
albundy [2k\]: "I'm so slow, I hate myself"
Zitrone [1k\]: Eurogotv, how many time have the players now ?
HlFl [-\]: will Catalin play Kang?
]
;B[jc]C[adiida [3k\]: we're gonna get bored to death if things don't start looking interesting for us kyu players too
Martin82 [11k?\]: wow he went for it
dmf [15k?\]: if he wins
fatihsulak [-\]: long reading :)
NschoTschi [-\]: EuroGoTV: how much time do the players ahve left?
just9x9 [-\]: well
Larrave [1d\]: catalin sure does look messed up:D
Nelsson [3k\]: Very long reading, so how does that work then?
Martin82 [11k?\]: i guess well see soon
HlFl [-\]: that will be an interesting game.
NorthWind [5k\]: yes, kyu entertainment is crucial
Nelsson [3k\]: J16, K19.. hmmhm
Gizensha [?\]: if they kill kyu player of boredom the level of kibitz might get higher...
sfsfs: catalin will go nuts if ilya comes and reads this out in 1 minute
Luna86 [9k\]: NschoTschi, if they have been spending time evenly they should have about 1h each
Orandajinn [2d?\]: hallo
Pepijn [2d\]: TIM
Hellhuman [1d\]: O_O board 1 already finished?
ltjbukem [1k\]: n18?
albundy [2k\]: needs some hot Scandanavian chics in the background
Hellhuman [1d\]: artem resigned?
Pinchilei [3d?\]: yes
ltjbukem [1k\]: yes, Artem resigned
Orandajinn [2d?\]: dag pepijn
HlFl [-\]: great game Artem vs Kang
Orandajinn [2d?\]: !!!!
Pepijn [2d\]: nog steeds in CHINA?
fatihsulak [-\]: e17 shines now 
Martin82 [11k?\]: well, j 16 will be on autopilot, no?
HlFl [-\]: Catalin will put the sleeper hold on Kang
dogbert [3d\]: artem died  an epic death
Orandajinn [2d?\]: uit ER AARD
Hellhuman [1d\]: eurogotv, where is ilya btw^^?
NorthWind [5k\]: Kang was merciless
Hellhuman [1d\]: there he is
]
;W[id]C[Draxt [3k\]: j16 k19 o18 ?
]
;B[ja]C[Draxt [3k\]: k19 h16 o18 sry
ltjbukem [1k\]: j19 h15?
dogbert [3d\]: w died
Hellhuman [1d\]: j19 suxx
ltjbukem [1k\]: j16 suxx
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ilya was outside the room
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: talking or so
fatihsulak [-\]: h15 j14 h16?
Hellhuman [1d\]: catalin looks like
Pepijn [2d\]: thanks lot
Hellhuman [1d\]: omg omg omg, i hope it works
WVoron [4d\]: ))
yamashitaK [5d\]: yes exactly^^
just9x9 [-\]: omg this military shirt and then how he sits on the chair, what happened to russia?
ltjbukem [1k\]: military shirt?:)
Hellhuman [1d\]: cold war is back :>
WVoron [4d\]: w just want stone near h13
Age [?\]: get that man a hanky
ltjbukem [1k\]: he just went to war :)
Hellhuman [1d\]: he is again swinging around!
neodius [5k?\]: its not a military
NschoTschi [-\]: Catalin looks like little brother
andreiraz [5k\]: the cold warwsa betwen usa and urssnot romania and urss
andreiraz [5k\]: was
NorthWind [5k\]: geez, he rocks back and forward strangely
NschoTschi [-\]: USSR
ltjbukem [1k\]: how is breakfast doing? all wins?
Hellhuman [1d\]: no
Hellhuman [1d\]: lost cornel
DanieI [-\]: lost to cornel
NorthWind [5k\]: no, lost game 1 by 0.5
Pepijn [2d\]: only 1 loss?
NschoTschi [-\]: by a half moku
WVoron [4d\]: & Surin??)
ltjbukem [1k\]: in group stage or play-off?
just9x9 [-\]: breakfast lost early, will win the rest and still not be european champion due to sos, like always :))
Larrave [1d\]: h16 probably the strongest for white
NschoTschi [-\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results.php
jjermann [4d?\]: what is the best move in this situation?
Pepijn [2d\]: just9x9 :)
DanieI [-\]: breakfast should start practicing go, instead of constantly opening new web sites.
HlFl [-\]: ouch
Hellhuman [1d\]: or buying hamete to confuse his opponent^^
DanieI [-\]: lol
NschoTschi [-\]: hehe Daniel!
shaula [1k\]: I agree with Daniel and Hellhuman
Najaye [3k\]: whats hamete?
DanieI [-\]: don't get me wrong
Larrave [1d\]: trick play
DanieI [-\]: he is still strong
kostuek [-\]: tenuki
DanieI [-\]: but he runs like 8 diffrent web sites
Martin82 [11k?\]: now it seems j18 is simly dead
just9x9 [-\]: get strong at opening websites
Draxt [3k\]: n18 h16 m19 h19 ?
NschoTschi [-\]: maybe strong but boring style and not a nice person to me
Larrave [1d\]: white only knows hoshi-play
HlFl [-\]: Catalin looked upset with himself...maybe missed stronger move!?
fatihsulak [-\]: h16, h15 or tenuki 
Larrave [1d\]: XD
dogbert [3d\]: w can run but not better than dead
]
;W[hd]C[int0x21 [1d\]: Catalin is playing poker 
int0x21 [1d\]: Theather
Draxt [3k\]: o18 now?
ltjbukem [1k\]: well if one will become a billionaire - will he have any motivation to improve in go? any experienced here?)
cherisse [1k\]: catalin always looks worrisome on the board ^^
BeMyGuest [12k\]: 8 different websites? would mind giving the links to all of them?
Hellhuman [1d\]:  ilya looks like a psycho o_O
DanieI [-\]: don't we all?
]
;B[mb]C[schwiggity [6k?\]: lol he is rocking hard now
HlFl [-\]: yes
kamiiyu [8k\]: haha there is voltage in the air
HlFl [-\]: we have the photos to prove
ltjbukem [1k\]: p18?
Nelsson [3k\]: whoa, N18 now, so that's why they are reading so long..
Draxt [3k\]: g16 
harpo [?\]: today is the fighting day
NorthWind [5k\]: g14 maybe
N4KED [1d\]: ko fight?
Martin82 [11k?\]: h15 j14 and g15 or something
]
;W[gd]C[ElofWendt [7k\]: what title are they fighting over?
]
;B[eb]C[Kickchon [?\]: how long is this game in progress ?
JachUGAN [11k\]: they're fighting over the right to be my student
JachUGAN [11k\]: =P
sfsfs: catalin is highrolling now after all that reading
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: european championship
Pepijn [2d\]: title "winning round 4 of EGC on board 2"
ww [?\]: who gets the princess
HlFl [-\]: yes, i think michael buffer did the intro!
cherisse [1k\]: rocking is actually relaxing then sitting still on a hard game for 1~2 hrs o god
NschoTschi [-\]: Is Ilya authistic?
sfsfs: what does it mean authistic?
KptMorgan [3d\]: i wonder if something like G13 works 
Blitzbold [1d\]: yes its definitely about the princes in the next round...
Pepijn [2d\]: no, he is 7d
fatihsulak [-\]: black not bad? 
schwiggity [6k?\]: g14?
harpo [?\]: yes he is..
Murugandi [4d\]: Pepijn is satan, don;t listen to him
sony [1k?\]: who won the game artem, kang ?
Kare [-\]: rather 'who gets to be killed by the princess (next round)
NinG [17k\]: kang
fatihsulak [-\]: after l19 i thought it was hopeless for black
NinG [17k\]: artem resigned
LaTonkin [5d\]: stop rocking!!!
sony [1k?\]: ıc, thx
NschoTschi [-\]: its spelled autistic sorry
Pepijn [2d\]: Muru :)
Murugandi [4d\]: :D
Pepijn [2d\]: I like you
Stefany93 [15k\]: Artem gave up???
ARPAnet [5k\]: surely Catalin can defeat Kang.
HlFl [-\]: rock Ilya rock!
Murugandi [4d\]: I like you too :)
Murugandi [4d\]: you nice man
LaTonkin [5d\]: ...
Larrave [1d\]: f18 ?
]
;W[fd]C[LaTonkin [5d\]: whos that?
Pepijn [2d\]: let's stay together for a few months
Pepijn [2d\]: you will like it!
Murugandi [4d\]: yeah!
Martin82 [11k?\]: first i thought it was hopeless for b (l19), than for white (k19), now im just confused ;)
Murugandi [4d\]: Ithink so too!
Murugandi [4d\]: !!!
]
;B[ed]C[cherisse [1k\]: i would love to see catalin play slow games like this vs kang!
yamashitaK [5d\]: f18f17
Pepijn [2d\]: it will be great!
Murugandi [4d\]: :D
Murugandi [4d\]: I really like you!
Pepijn [2d\]: and... different
Stefany93 [15k\]: Catalin will crush Kang!
yamashitaK [5d\]: dont think so 
AllNewSad [4d\]: g14 
LaTonkin [5d\]: she's gone
Pepijn [2d\]: nice game
Murugandi [4d\]: trouwens, hoe is de partij van Artem vs Kang verlopen?
dmf [15k?\]: probably kang will resign out of boredom
maligo [-\]: who won on 1st board?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Kang
Pepijn [2d\]: goed, voor Kang
Murugandi [4d\]: is Artem ingemaakt?
Hellhuman [1d\]: oh
dmf [15k?\]: if she plays catalin
Hellhuman [1d\]: fj, not at egc?
Murugandi [4d\]: hehehe
Pepijn [2d\]: na het was wel een heel gevecht
JachUGAN [11k\]: first he needs to beat ilja
Murugandi [4d\]: ok vet
Pepijn [2d\]: best leuk om te zine
Murugandi [4d\]: ff checken hihi
Pepijn [2d\]: ok
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: was mooie partij he
Pepijn [2d\]: ja
Murugandi [4d\]: nog vette tesuji's ala Burzo?
Pepijn [2d\]: vette knokpartijen
NorthWind [5k\]: Ilya will freak her out with his rocking
Farcas [3d\]: what did cornel burzo?
fatihsulak [-\]: g13 
Pepijn [2d\]: I think the level of Dutch kibitz is very high
Namastee [2d\]: kang can beat catalin
Pepijn [2d\]: do you agree?
Murugandi [4d\]: YES!
cherisse [1k\]: ilya is cute
Murugandi [4d\]: I like you
Murugandi [4d\]: :)
Stevenson [3k\]: how old is Catalin?
Pepijn [2d\]: yes I know
dmf [15k?\]: 37?
Pepijn [2d\]: it is natural
JachUGAN [11k\]: 35 i think
NorthWind [5k\]: 48
Nickless [2d\]: hehehhe
Stefany93 [15k\]: Catalin is 37 years old
Nickless [2d\]: natural you say ?
Blitzbold [1d\]: ... it is high on time...
maligo [-\]: very old..
hirakawade [2d?\]: Hi Yoshida
NschoTschi [-\]: 361 years
JachUGAN [11k\]: he's ageless an immortal
Draxt [3k\]: f14 
dd33: 25?
Murugandi [4d\]: oei I have to PLAK my BAND
Murugandi [4d\]: see you soon
ganryu [?\]: hi
Pepijn [2d\]: yes
Pepijn [2d\]: soon
badmoves [7k?\]: looks very bad for w
goth [?\]: how do they stand on time?
LaTonkin [5d\]: is that typing?
just9x9 [-\]: hopefully one of them will enter byoyomi soon
Hellhuman [1d\]: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000498949875&ref=ts#!/taranu.catalin?ref=sgm
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;W[ff]C[Hellhuman [1d\]: He is 37, here is his facebook account :P
NorthWind [5k\]: lol 9x9
Draxt [3k\]: o18 ?
Draxt [3k\]: err N7?
Draxt [3k\]: N17
]
;B[nk]C[Pepijn [2d\]: typical Catalin!
ltjbukem [1k\]: what is his first name? isnt Catalin - woman first name? like Kata?
Pepijn [2d\]: I like his style
jjermann [4d?\]: this whole sequence was very good for w, no?
Martin82 [11k?\]: even dans said fist, b is dead, then w is dead, now nobody seems to be dead....   what a messy game go can be
misjoe [1k\]: interesting... is this to build strength facing the lower part of the board ?
Hellhuman [1d\]: where is the strength^^?
bERt0r [10k\]: catalin is not a female name afaik
]
;W[jk]C[jjermann [4d?\]: misjoe: yes of course and the center
misjoe [1k\]: q8 can't be attacked anymore
misjoe [1k\]: ok :)
Martin82 [11k?\]: i think its about capturing p9 ;)
yamashitaK [5d\]: k9 and k14 stones look really bad
misjoe [1k\]: oh, martin, you're right :)
Stevenson [3k\]: Iliya is in trance
jjermann [4d?\]: it was not about the 4 points
misjoe [1k\]: I really like how pros take their time to play a move that does nothing except avoid all problems, like o9
LaTonkin [5d\]: it does more than that
Wagaboo [11k\]: that's because they're thinking about somewhere else
DudeG [1k\]: o9 is prep move.
yamashitaK [5d\]: baah they are so slow 
Martin82 [11k?\]: kageyama woul say a "proper move"
Blitzbold [1d\]: ilya acting like a prisoned animal
just9x9 [-\]: kageyama would say "go play baseball"
Wagaboo [11k\]: yes like in this film
Wagaboo [11k\]: well
BuFFoon [10k\]: how much time is left?
BALLZ [3k\]: ilya rocking
yuuubeiiii [4k\]: who won the game catalintaranu vs van den something ?
dmf [15k?\]: catalin
sfsfs: catalin won all games afaik
Wagaboo [11k\]: isn't that like otism?
NorthWind [5k\]: likes to get in a rhythm
un [2k\]: van der something lost
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;B[ei]C[ltjbukem [1k\]: van den something sounds nice :)
Draxt [3k\]: ho nice one
Pepijn [2d\]: it's dutch
Pepijn [2d\]: so it's nice
just9x9 [-\]: dutch kibitz always high i learned today :)
Lukan [4d\]: how much time left?
Pepijn [2d\]: correct
valise: h13?
Blitzbold [1d\]: dutch always high?
jjermann [4d?\]: E11 is annoying
Pepijn [2d\]: yeah
Wagaboo [11k\]: llya hates wait opponent move
Pepijn [2d\]: especially that part
Blitzbold [1d\]: me too :)
Wagaboo [11k\]: i guess
ltjbukem [1k\]: h13?
NorthWind [5k\]: yeah I blame the smoking
Bruno [1d\]: this is good for b
Draxt [3k\]: g13 
Syptryn [3d\]: h13 ?
Lukan [4d\]: eurogotv: how much time left?
Martin82 [11k?\]: shoulder hit on the 5th line + attack on g16, isnt it?
Blitzbold [1d\]: at least ilya is freezed now
LaTonkin [5d\]: h13
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;W[ej]C[Monsolith2 [13k?\]: was there a handicap in this game ?
ltjbukem [1k\]: do they smoke while playing???
NorthWind [5k\]: no
Pepijn [2d\]: the Dutch? or the players?
just9x9 [-\]: whoa
Syptryn [3d\]: aggrsive?
LaTonkin [5d\]: it's a 4-stone handicap game
Wagaboo [11k\]: you see?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Ilya 1.04 left
Syptryn [3d\]: much?
misjoe [1k\]: all EGCs have been smokefree zones for quite some time :)
just9x9 [-\]: h12 now?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: catalin i'll check for you
ltjbukem [1k\]: the players
Wagaboo [11k\]: llya is waiting his opponent move
ltjbukem [1k\]: why Dutch? isnt that in Finland?
Draxt [3k\]: g12 ?
Gizensha [?\]: can't smoke in public buildings in finland
Bruno [1d\]: E 13
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 52min left
dferer: white is ok now
Lukan [4d\]: thx
HlFl [-\]: holy cow all that rocking would be distracting as heck
Xaviaro [?\]: http://renter.kapsi.fi/hans/pages_egc2010/
Pepijn [2d\]: Dutch in Finland? hm interesting idea
Monsolith2 [13k?\]: where to see the live game ?
NinG [17k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
just9x9 [-\]: the white sanrensei looks scary now
HlFl [-\]: nobody should be allowed to smoke anywhere
LaTonkin [5d\]: ...
LaTonkin [5d\]: thats rather fascist
Gaarg [1d\]: but smoking is nice
ekku [-\]: not tobacco,anyway... :)
Gizensha [?\]: i wager that Catalin doesn't even notice Ilya's rocking at this stage of the game
LaTonkin [5d\]: tomacco
Blitzbold [1d\]: don´t make fun of tomacco!
Monsolith2 [13k?\]: smoke tomatoe
NschoTschi [-\]: Giz lol
HlFl [-\]: you probably right Gizensha
ltjbukem [1k\]: Giz, what do you mean by rocking? and particularly rocking at this stage of the game? =)
Blitzbold [1d\]: i wonder if the state of mind you need for not noticing ilya´s rocking may be called autism...
Gizensha [?\]: the back and worth movement that Ilya does
ekku [-\]: moving one's torso back and forth in a nervous manner
Martin82 [11k?\]: playing chess i encounterd quite a lot annoing opponents. worst of all: eating an apple - terrible.
NorthWind [5k\]: haha
Eilinen [-\]: : D
NorthWind [5k\]: darn apple-eaters
Worthless [-\]: Better apple than durian.
dd33: does anyone else have over  200 VIP-points on eurogotv?
Gizensha [?\]: and by stage i mean that the intensity of the game makes it sure that players are hardly thinking about mannerism of their opponent
BigJimBeef [7k\]: annoying or carefull stratergy?
Kickchon [?\]: well, be glad he wasnt eating some very smelly cheese
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;B[gi]C[N4KED [1d\]: somebody has over 700
Monsolith2 [13k?\]: I have worse, if I'm allowed to say it, scratching one's balls before playing
N4KED [1d\]: I have about 40
Martin82 [11k?\]: aljechin is known to crawl a cat on his lap because his opponent (euwe) hated them
maligo [-\]: go llya!
dd33: naked how do you know?
NschoTschi [-\]: h13 ?
NorthWind [5k\]: no Mon, you can't say it
Blitzbold [1d\]: if my opponents are trying to concentrate i just poke them into the eye...
Monsolith2 [13k?\]: then I wont
zc3k [1k\]: H13
N4KED [1d\]: eurogo told me....his name is shadow....something
HlFl [-\]: who can top Tal's death stare though?
Martin82 [11k?\]: when playing card i hat guys not washing there hands after toilette
Martin82 [11k?\]: cards*
Martin82 [11k?\]: hate*
NorthWind [5k\]: j14 needed ?
ekku [-\]: how do you knoe if they wash their hands or not ?:)
ekku [-\]: *know
Draxt [3k\]: h13 no choices
just9x9 [-\]: smelling the cards i guess...
Martin82 [11k?\]: because i see it when i am at the toilette
dd33: O.o
sfsfs: lmao
Summers: Has Ilya's  sister Svetlana stopped playing go?
Hellhuman [1d\]: i guess no
Hellhuman [1d\]: she became pro at all^^'
hosainogo: yes, she's playing baduk :)
Murugandi [4d\]: I placked my band but it exploaded
Murugandi [4d\]: wat toe doe?
HlFl [-\]: i like Ilyas knee hugging position better.
Pepijn [2d\]: new band
epoxygal [3k\]: catalin growing and growing by the day
Murugandi [4d\]: oh!
Murugandi [4d\]: thank you!
Draxt [3k\]: d12 possible?
Pepijn [2d\]: or try to plug the hole
Hellhuman [1d\]: ilyas position remebers of "L's" of deathnote :>
Stoneflow [-\]: h13
epoxygal [3k\]: tough position for white eh
Pepijn [2d\]: with stuff
Orandajinn [2d?\]: hallo
Murugandi [4d\]: I did plug the whole but then big explosion like terrorist
Wagaboo [11k\]: d13
NorthWind [5k\]: Cat must weigh twice as much as Ilya
RonnieCMak [8k\]: h13!!!
Pepijn [2d\]: ah that is natural
epoxygal [3k\]: H13 comes to mind but will it work?
Murugandi [4d\]: oh
Murugandi [4d\]: :)
Pepijn [2d\]: first plug hole, then buy new band
Stoneflow [-\]: h13 works :)
Draxt [3k\]: h13 works, but D12 seems better
Murugandi [4d\]: ok!
Kickchon [?\]: h13 connects yes
Murugandi [4d\]: I try
epoxygal [3k\]: h13 works but at what cost?
Murugandi [4d\]: see you brb (L)
Pepijn [2d\]: !
neodius [5k?\]: 30 pts
Stoneflow [-\]: not much really
Pepijn [2d\]: good luck
DudeG [1k\]: cost:  giving sente
Murugandi [4d\]: thank you!!!
Pepijn [2d\]: it was nothing
Pepijn [2d\]: don't thank me for this
epoxygal [3k\]: the cost will be the E10 stones
Pepijn [2d\]: it was my pleasure
adiida [3k\]: after h13 ,catalin needs to o18
Pepijn [2d\]: thank you for that!
Stoneflow [-\]: e10 stones not gonna die either way
Stoneflow [-\]: to much space
Kickchon [?\]: no, but k11 group will get strong
epoxygal [3k\]: in Go, the first thing to think is not to kill, but to attack 
Stoneflow [-\]: already weak
Stoneflow [-\]: doesnt hurt
bananas [1k\]: can someone make a good count per location?
epoxygal [3k\]: poppy always around
kane955 [1k\]: what happend on board one?
Kickchon [?\]: artem lost by resignation
epoxygal [3k\]: artem lost
Q161 [?\]: to whom?
maligo [-\]: artem lost :)
Pepijn [2d\]: it was a partial win on board 1
adiida [3k\]: what did Cornel do?
Stoneflow [-\]: black can live there but at great cost, or sacrifice, while white will get to reinforce to make his moyo complete on the bottom
epoxygal [3k\]: the cute girl
Martin82 [11k?\]: i like h13, it kills a cutting group
just9x9 [-\]: lost to kang
bigfatcat [1d?\]: b+50
dd33: w+dawin
epoxygal [3k\]: however, the thinking cannot be passive by submitting to just H13
FFH [2k\]: where i can replay .sgf-file of Artem and Kang's game?
Worthless [-\]: Check EuroGoTV1's info, FFH
Kickchon [?\]: see eurogotv1 game history
Pepijn [2d\]: see eurogotv1 games
epoxygal [3k\]: the right side group is already alive... so the thinking is how to connect the F16 group to the D10 group
NorthWind [5k\]: f12 playable ?
FFH [2k\]: nice, ty
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 48 minutes left for Catalin
DudeG [1k\]: it's empty, so playable.
maligo [-\]: e12 ¨
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 55 left for Ilya
bigfatcat [1d?\]: killing h14 looks feasible
epoxygal [3k\]: if white can connect the F14 group with the D10 stones, black in a huge toruble 
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;W[hg]C[Martin82 [11k?\]: here he comes!
adiida [3k\]: o18
RonnieCMak [8k\]: gd
Wagaboo [11k\]: h13 good ^^
epoxygal [3k\]: maybe he cant connect after thinking about it
Draxt [3k\]: j9 
bigfatcat [1d?\]: killing g11 is even better but....
epoxygal [3k\]: kyu kibitz is really fun
Stoneflow [-\]: connection or living
just9x9 [-\]: now b seek some ko
stoneshape [1k\]: why not h13 earlier?
nasnad [2d\]: atleast b has a lot of points
NorthWind [5k\]: of course gal, we have no reputation to defend :)
Vladd [5k\]: EuroGO, what about time???
epoxygal [3k\]: lol north
Pepijn [2d\]: Vladd> it was just told by her
Pepijn [2d\]: a few moves back
Vladd [5k\]: kk
just9x9 [-\]: EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 48 minutes left for Catalin
Martin82 [11k?\]: black has the points now, w has the moyo, open fight?
sohigh [1k\]: j9 
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i just told
just9x9 [-\]: EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 55 left for Ilya
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 55 ilya 46 Catalin
Stoneflow [-\]: w+resign
Vladd [5k\]: thx thx
ltjbukem [1k\]: kakari time?
adiida [3k\]: o18 
Wagaboo [11k\]: nooo
monk316 [2k?\]: 55 what
just9x9 [-\]: o3
monk316 [2k?\]: minutes?
Wagaboo [11k\]: o18 useless
zife [6k\]: yes
harpo [?\]: 55 seconds
DoubleLion [1k\]: 55 hours
just9x9 [-\]: 55 hours, cstle game this
bigfatcat [1d?\]: moves
just9x9 [-\]: *castle
ltjbukem [1k\]: f8 f10 f4
harpo [?\]: 55 days
Blitzbold [1d\]: 55 weeks later
bigfatcat [1d?\]: how can w win this ?
epoxygal [3k\]: aww... thinking so long. should play like the cute korean girl...
Pepijn [2d\]: by having a big moyo
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;B[cq]C[bigfatcat [1d?\]: hmmm
RonnieCMak [8k\]: O.o
just9x9 [-\]: lol
bigfatcat [1d?\]: b + 40 or so now...
Hellhuman [1d\]: sansan power!
yamashitaK [5d\]: I like w´s position 
ltjbukem [1k\]: d3
bigfatcat [1d?\]: statically..
Excalibor [-\]: mmm
epoxygal [3k\]: kill the center black stones pls
Farcas [3d\]: :))
Vladd [5k\]: Filipe Lopes : can someone tie W to the chair?? is really annoying (lol)
NorthWind [5k\]: c3 !? :D :D
Farcas [3d\]: \\
Draxt [3k\]: white can't tenuki
Murugandi [4d\]: ilya strong man from russia
Murugandi [4d\]: big hand
Murugandi [4d\]: white like ice
Pepijn [2d\]: yes!!
ltjbukem [1k\]: big hand)))
Murugandi [4d\]: !!!
Pepijn [2d\]: so true!!
ltjbukem [1k\]: huge biceps))
epoxygal [3k\]: how come cornel won against the 3 dan pro??
Blitzbold [1d\]: EuroGoTv may you fix ilya?
yamashitaK [5d\]: d3c4c6
Hellhuman [1d\]: 3d pro is not really korean 3p^^'
ltjbukem [1k\]: cornel is latent pro
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;W[cp]
;B[dq]
;W[fq]C[adiida [3k\]: cause his that good
ww [?\]: 31C is tampere at the moment
Excalibor [-\]: d3 works better directionally speaking, but maybe c4 would help to deal with the upper group
Excalibor [-\]: nod
]
;B[fr]C[Murugandi [4d\]: ilya never scary of peoples
epoxygal [3k\]: oh, maybe the 3p is pro in marketing, not Go. lol
just9x9 [-\]: struggle for sente
yamashitaK [5d\]: w get sente and then kill on top 
Murugandi [4d\]: always brave and not coward
Wagaboo [11k\]: joseki ^^
Pepijn [2d\]: did you play him?
georgeee [3k\]: can someone tell me where can i see them play???ing?
Murugandi [4d\]: yes!
Murugandi [4d\]: I was scary
Hellhuman [1d\]: ilyi making gymnastics
Murugandi [4d\]: of him
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: http://www.eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
Orandajinn [2d?\]: wagaboo, im very angry
Pepijn [2d\]: of course
georgeee [3k\]: ty
Wagaboo [11k\]: llya's abdo are very strong
Murugandi [4d\]: my finger shake like wind through grass when I play ilya
Pepijn [2d\]: Tim> I understand
Pepijn [2d\]: are you a famous goplayer?
NorthWind [5k\]: ?
Murugandi [4d\]: too strong
Murugandi [4d\]: yes!!!
Stevenson [3k\]: .
Orandajinn [2d?\]: pepijn is master of wisdom
Martin82 [11k?\]: n17
Pepijn [2d\]: thank you
NinG [17k\]: n17
Murugandi [4d\]: oh?!
Martin82 [11k?\]: played
Pepijn [2d\]: that is my strength
Wagaboo [11k\]: llya can't stay in place
Murugandi [4d\]: I like you!
bigfatcat [1d?\]: young great talents are always underrated anyway, so after 6p it gets real or not?
Vladd [5k\]: n17 
Gizensha [?\]: stop sleeping euro!
Vladd [5k\]: seems
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;W[mc]C[Wagaboo [11k\]: yeah
Blitzbold [1d\]: he first switched the clock then placed his stone?
Draxt [3k\]: p18 
SqueezeIt [2d\]: no, he checked catalin's time
Blitzbold [1d\]: ah.. thx
Wagaboo [11k\]: black will answer with
bigfatcat [1d?\]: that would be a hilarious way to forfeit a game
Orandajinn [2d?\]: he is cheater
Wagaboo [11k\]: o18
Vladd [5k\]: interesting, he moved after catalin left  )
Pepijn [2d\]: !!
Orandajinn [2d?\]: maybe
Wagaboo [11k\]: or
Wagaboo [11k\]: p18
zizu [-\]: ilja making cradle of go
yamashitaK [5d\]: p18
Blitzbold [1d\]: as long as he is no escaper...
Gizensha [?\]:  
adiida [3k\]: why not o18 ...
Wagaboo [11k\]: yamashita how chose between 18 and p18?
adiida [3k\]: ?
Draxt [3k\]: g3 bigger than P18?
bananas [1k\]: no
NorthWind [5k\]: haha , SE awarded W the whole lower half of the board
just9x9 [-\]: can someone explain what's the ppoint in playing n17 right now?
bananas [1k\]: its sente
shaula [1k\]: Catalin comes back, sees that Ilya is thinking and that there is no stones played around F3, so he thinks: "mmh, still white's turn", and then he loses because of time.
yamashitaK [5d\]: its just big ^^ and sente
sfsfs: so he can think without wasting time
Kickchon [?\]: sente profit
sfsfs: while catalins time runs out
Pepijn [2d\]: force before killing
vitacola [4d\]: how much time do they have now?
just9x9 [-\]: and why now and not after completing lower side joseki?
Bruno [1d\]: who is winning?
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;B[ob]C[yamashitaK [5d\]: f3 is only to get sente
bigfatcat [1d?\]: i say black rather
yamashitaK [5d\]: if you dont want sente just play e3
just9x9 [-\]: so f3 f2 is already complete?
mooooo [7k\]: ilya moving front and back all the time is a psychological condition
yamashitaK [5d\]: yes you can continue later
yamashitaK [5d\]: now he wants to kill 
just9x9 [-\]: i see thx
yamashitaK [5d\]: probably
yamashitaK [5d\]: e11
ww [?\]: when did they start, how much is time in the begin, and how much time they have left
Pepijn [2d\]: wow
Martin82 [11k?\]: it seems w plays a very good game so far doesnt it?
yamashitaK [5d\]: yes
NorthWind [5k\]: 3 hours 43 mins played so far
just9x9 [-\]: and what is w's answer to g3?
sfsfs: because w is strong
Stevenson [3k\]: i count b has around 60 points, it's hard to count w's points
NorthWind [5k\]: prob 2 hours left
Stoneflow [-\]: f4
Pepijn [2d\]: don't underestimate white - already won on board 1
ww [?\]: 2h eaach ?`
yamashitaK [5d\]: d13 maybe
Stoneflow [-\]: then
Stoneflow [-\]: h2
ww [?\]: they hve 3h each in begin ?
cherisse [1k\]: ilya won vs who?
ww [?\]: uh, i mean 150minutes, 2h30minutes
just9x9 [-\]: g3 f4 e2 h2?
NorthWind [5k\]: no 2.5 hrs each
Orandajinn [2d?\]: i heard ilya is fan of michael jackson
Stoneflow [-\]: y
Murugandi [4d\]: Shikshin pinmin win, his name in china
Murugandi [4d\]: famous for win
ww [?\]: byo-yomi seems to be 1x1min in the rules. EuroGoTV2, how much time do they have left ?
Q161 [?\]: that made no sense murugandi
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 49 for Ilya
Pepijn [2d\]: don't troll Q161
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: and Catalin 40
Murugandi [4d\]: I agree Pepijn
Orandajinn [2d?\]: Q161 [?\] please focus on the game
Q161 [?\]: lol
Draxt [3k\]: c12 ?
Wagaboo [11k\]: and white is behind
Murugandi [4d\]: no racial slurs on kgs q161
Q161 [?\]: now im just more confused
mooooo [7k\]: Orandajinn [2d?\]: Q161 [?\] please focus on the game
Q161 [?\]: you are a cow, your argument is invalid
aap [1k\]: pepijnnnnnnnnn ga je ook met murugandi and moi naar china ?
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;W[fj]C[ww [?\]: tx. hmm, they have used 2/3 of their times. ..and it looks like this game might have many fights to come
Pepijn [2d\]: nee
Blitzbold [1d\]: please focus on the kibitz and stop imitating bigdoug
Wagaboo [11k\]: f10? Oo
Murugandi [4d\]: hahaha
Wagaboo [11k\]: white wants a moyo?
Hellhuman [1d\]: and attack centergroup
Q161 [?\]: who is bigdoug?
aap [1k\]: ik heb dinsdag een kennismaking game 
just9x9 [-\]: hehe focus on the kibitz not the game
Murugandi [4d\]: bigdoug scary man
Wagaboo [11k\]: now black F11
Pepijn [2d\]: admin! please intercept
dd33:  Blitzbold [1d\]: please focus on the kibitz and stop imitating bigdoug
Blitzbold [1d\]: a nightmare walking
Q161 [?\]: and im not intimating anything
ww [?\]: has many top group games gone to the byo-yomi in this tournament so far
Wagaboo [11k\]: f11 h10 h11 
dd33:  mooooo [7k\]: Orandajinn [2d?\]: Q161 [?\] please focus on the game
ltjbukem [1k\]: c10?
Blitzbold [1d\]: sorry dd33
yamashitaK [5d\]: w will win 
Draxt [3k\]: l9 
yamashitaK [5d\]: hes good at attacking groups
yamashitaK [5d\]: or even killing
NorthWind [5k\]: r3 seems consistent
Murugandi [4d\]: hello, have a nice game :)
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;B[ik]C[Pepijn [2d\]: that was very kind of you
Wagaboo [11k\]: damn i was wrong
Martin82 [11k?\]: that  j11 group seems to be such a burden. but we'll see
Wagaboo [11k\]: and white is gone
Wagaboo [11k\]: tricky black ^^
Wagaboo [11k\]: play when llya isn't here
sfsfs: everybody does this
altrecop [1k\]: will he wait for Ilya and lose time? :D
Martin82 [11k?\]: take ko?
NorthWind [5k\]: c12
Martin82 [11k?\]: but that ko is not a picknick for w ether, l9 hanging in the air
Kickchon [?\]: ko seems risky
zizu [-\]: j12
altrecop [1k\]: forget the ko, build the moyo!
Draxt [3k\]: l9 h9 seems to good for black
vademecum [3d\]: c12?
vademecum [3d\]: no
vademecum [3d\]: cause of L9
nasnad [2d\]: just k11
NorthWind [5k\]: oh :(
Stevenson [3k\]: the video is like several minutes late from the kgs 
yamashitaK [5d\]: L9
DudeG [1k\]: kgs is a time machine
Draxt [3k\]: k11 
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;W[ji]
;B[gg]C[Monsolith2 [13k?\]: haha no thinking
scurge [5d\]: what is the time
NorthWind [5k\]: oh no, a pointless ko
Muscadet [?\]: w needs some sixty points to win. Difficult to get them
yamashitaK [5d\]: about 40min for b and about 49 for w
sfsfs: oh no
sfsfs: a ****storm will now ensue
Kickchon [?\]: i like the goban, what kind of it is it ?
Wagaboo [11k\]: i think that h16 group will die
Blitzbold [1d\]: plastic
georgeee [3k\]: the rusian is geting on the tabla :D
dd33: pointless ko?? northwind stop focusing on real life and focus more on go
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 43 W
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 38 B
Draxt [3k\]: j10 g14 f13 g12 f12 f11 d13 ?
gacua [1d\]: If H16 died, white surrenders
NorthWind [5k\]: haha
Kickchon [?\]: plastic is nice then blitzbold :p
Onibaku [1d?\]: j14
]
;W[gf]
;B[ki]C[gluiwiya [4k\]: Could anybody tell me who won on eurogotv1
JachUGAN [11k\]: kang
dmf [15k?\]: kang
mooooo [7k\]: ilya prepared to jump on the board
Kratzdrink [1d\]: kang
Wagaboo [11k\]: kang
yamashitaK [5d\]: the hot korean girl
gluiwiya [4k\]: thanks
Dino9 [6d\]: o18
Q161 [?\]: kang is a girl?
Orandajinn [2d?\]: kang
NorthWind [5k\]: dd I am entitles to my kyuish opinion. thank you
Wagaboo [11k\]: yes
monstreh [8k\]: господа, кто выиграл в первой партии?
N4KED [1d\]: Ms. Kang
]
;W[rf]C[Blitzbold [1d\]: no, kang is one of the sinson´s aliens
Wagaboo [11k\]: and she's very pretty
Blitzbold [1d\]: simson
Draxt [3k\]: tenuki?
Wagaboo [11k\]: not bad blitzbod :D
]
;B[qe]C[Blitzbold [1d\]: :)
donGoku [4k\]: simPson
]
;W[ji]C[Wagaboo [11k\]: if kang doesn't have a boyfriend i'm here
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: she has
JachUGAN [11k\]: hahahahahaha
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: =D
JachUGAN [11k\]: keep on dreaming guys
Kickchon [?\]: do you speak korean? :P
NorthWind [5k\]: B should just give up those and invade the lower side
mooooo [7k\]: buk lau
]
;B[ig]C[Wagaboo [11k\]: french is more important than korean
zizu [-\]: I doubt her boyfriend speaks korean
Wagaboo [11k\]: it's lovers language
]
;W[ij]C[Kickchon [?\]: wow
Q161 [?\]: french is cowards language
Dino9 [6d\]: this hurts for black
N4KED [1d\]: cool
JachUGAN [11k\]: looool 
Monsolith2 [13k?\]: ilya is so funny to watch
bERt0r [10k\]: frech is france's language
altrecop [1k\]: ultra moyo coming
Draxt [3k\]: h10 
]
;B[hh]C[N4KED [1d\]: Big oops
Blitzbold [1d\]: referring to simpsons and al bundy, french is...
Wagaboo [11k\]: is ....?
georgeee [3k\]: he gave up the g16 groupe for influence???
fdfff: i think w made a mistake here
Pepijn [2d\]: no for fun
Hellhuman [1d\]: What happened here o_O
Blitzbold [1d\]: google for yourself...
Blitzbold [1d\]: :)
zizu [-\]: what white do?
Farcas [3d\]: h15 j14 j12 
HlFl [-\]: he must expend a load of energy at a match
Martin82 [11k?\]: w moyo getting bitter, but he has to worry about that h16 again
Q161 [?\]: pepijn get back in your cage!
Dino9 [6d\]: h15
Kickchon [?\]: white won ko
Wagaboo [11k\]: no you have to tell
KptMorgan [3d\]: still a lot of aji to use
NorthWind [5k\]: great, now W succeeded in getting g16 in trouble
Farcas [3d\]: bang gang
Murugandi [4d\]: OJEETJE
Pepijn [2d\]: kijk
Pepijn [2d\]: daar heb je het
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: nu wordt het leuk he
Murugandi [4d\]: inderdaad
yamashitaK [5d\]: b has a bad shape
Onibaku [1d?\]: now H16 die
gacua [1d\]: Actually the center is still open. But H16 is half dead
Onibaku [1d?\]: I suppose
dd33: r3 settles the game for b next
Wagaboo [11k\]: instead i will lunch you a "baguette" that is too hard
Draxt [3k\]: e12 
motaba [1k\]: yes, if w passes 3 times
Pepijn [2d\]: I am sorry Q161
Dino9 [6d\]: h10 very big
Pepijn [2d\]: please forgive me
yamashitaK [5d\]: w will live I think 
Onibaku [1d?\]: yes
Dino9 [6d\]: h15 sure lives
Q161 [?\]: cage!
Pepijn [2d\]: sorry
Onibaku [1d?\]: they live
Orandajinn [2d?\]: hallo ik ben frank 
SqueezeIt [2d\]: no
mambo [7d\]: w f13 
Orandajinn [2d?\]: yes
Murugandi [4d\]: yes, no.
Onibaku [1d?\]: )
Orandajinn [2d?\]: mambo no.5
dfsdfd: popicu result?
mambo [7d\]: no 7 :-)
kostuek [-\]: h10
Murugandi [4d\]: why so many yes? clearly no!
mur [1k\]: anyone know how much time left?
georgeee [3k\]: i thinck the rusian is hiperactive :)
Pepijn [2d\]: they don't no it
N4KED [1d\]: but b can drop this group
Onibaku [1d?\]: H16 die
dfsdfd: what does Pop Cristian
dfsdfd: ??
Wagaboo [11k\]: russian are like germans
Q161 [?\]: seems w is only thinking if it can live after the move
Wagaboo [11k\]: but they talk russian
Onibaku [1d?\]: )
typohh [6k\]: could some give a sequence where w tries to escape and b fails to prevent it?
Murugandi [4d\]: n4ked are you naked?
Pepijn [2d\]: e13 e14 f13 d14 d12 d13 e12 f11 d11 
Q161 [?\]: h15 t1 j14
Blitzbold [1d\]: wow what kind of kibitz starts now?
ohlord [1d\]: if b wants 2 kill, the ko looks also dangerous 4 him
bERt0r [10k\]: f13 t1 f12 t2 f11 t3  w escaped
HlFl [-\]: you dont have to answer n4ked
Murugandi [4d\]: q3 p3 r2 r5 n6 o3 l6 r3 t5 s6 r4 r3 
Q161 [?\]: murugandi no one asked you
Murugandi [4d\]: :(
Pepijn [2d\]: Q161 is very strict
Q161 [?\]: pepijn is very dumbo
Pepijn [2d\]: he is a ruler
Monsolith2 [13k?\]: f13 h13 f12 j14 f11 h11 
Martin82 [11k?\]: is he? i ignored him a long time ago
Q161 [?\]: he is a doofus
Orandajinn [2d?\]: at this point its very important to handle the corners, the corners are very important right now! 
kamiiyu [8k\]: q161 stfu please
Q161 [?\]: no u
Murugandi [4d\]: q161 is danger for yellow man and girl
Murugandi [4d\]: why he not ban?
Q161 [?\]: why murugandi so ugly?
Draxt [3k\]: j12 
Murugandi [4d\]: :'(
Orandajinn [2d?\]: q161, please handle the corner
Wagaboo [11k\]: i think because he is not murugandi
Murugandi [4d\]: admin this man very agressiveness
Murugandi [4d\]: q161 hurt me in stomache
dfsdfd: how won at the fist board??
Q161 [?\]: admin this many very ugly
mooooo [7k\]: leave murugandi alone he is half gandi so a peacemaker
NorthWind [5k\]: these accounts all the same guy ?
Murugandi [4d\]: yes!
catsoldier [6k\]: you can censor him, then you won't have to read what he says
Murugandi [4d\]: listen mooo!
Murugandi [4d\]: I only try make nice comment
hirakawade [2d?\]: 4 hours passed already.
Pepijn [2d\]: no-one every stood up for me before :(
Murugandi [4d\]: you hurt me
Murugandi [4d\]: :(
Wagaboo [11k\]: so much flood :(
dfsdfd: how won at the fist board??
Pepijn [2d\]: only now
dfsdfd: how won at the fist board??
Q161 [?\]: you hurt my eyes
Pepijn [2d\]: when others are hurt too
Q161 [?\]: ugly
HlFl [-\]: wow, been awhile since i had to pull the trigger on ignore
dfsdfd: how won at the fist board??
catsoldier [6k\]: artem lost
Kratzdrink [1d\]: kang
Kickchon [?\]: h15, j14, j12, h13, f13, ko ?
arghhh: this is a f... emo convection
dd33: please focus less on hurting
Orandajinn [2d?\]: q161, very rude!!! i dont like it
Murugandi [4d\]: :( :(
Q161 [?\]: i dont care ugly!
arghhh: *convention
ohlord [1d\]: sry guys, but SHUT UP no 1 need your dispute!
Draxt [3k\]: j12 h13 h11 
Murugandi [4d\]: number one?
Murugandi [4d\]: ilya need dispute?
Orandajinn [2d?\]: just be friendly friend and focus on game!!! :):):)
Orandajinn [2d?\]: <3
mur [1k\]: anyone knows how Dinerchtein played?
Murugandi [4d\]: what dispute mean?
Q161 [?\]: just go back to your cage! :):):)
Q161 [?\]: orandanoob
vademecum [3d\]: lol q161
LaTonkin [5d\]: j12?
ohlord [1d\]: vour chat-dispute
]
;W[eh]C[ohlord [1d\]: your
hatego [3k\]: Admins doing their job well, as usual.
Kickchon [?\]: huh
kostuek [-\]: breakfast los i think
HlFl [-\]: yeah
N4KED [1d\]: again???
bERt0r [10k\]: maybe admin ignored q161 already :P
Blitzbold [1d\]: yep now that bigdoug seems to be gone...
Wagaboo [11k\]: this mini short is so sexy
Martin82 [11k?\]: e12 quite logical, isnt it?
Pepijn [2d\]: he is banned now I believe
Murugandi [4d\]: breakfast lose to who?
Murugandi [4d\]: :o
Pepijn [2d\]: we can continue watching the game
mur [1k\]: breakfast played with Dmitry Surin Russian 6d
dd33: ilja forgot his ritalin?
kostuek [-\]: cornel
Blitzbold [1d\]: please may so bann the guy in the background?
hgh01 [16k\]: how much did breakfas loose?
]
;B[hj]C[Murugandi [4d\]: oh mean man was ban?
Pepijn [2d\]: yes
Murugandi [4d\]: :)
NorthWind [5k\]: such ugly shape
Murugandi [4d\]: thank you mur
Murugandi [4d\]: :)
Draxt [3k\]: what ponnuki chain is a nice fomr
]
;W[hk]C[dd33: lol
JachUGAN [11k\]: it's very efficient
dd33: g9 next
arghhh: ?
Koukkaaja [3d\]: soon b has 120 points with that network
mur [1k\]: ur welcome Murugandi :)
Kickchon [?\]: uh
Martin82 [11k?\]: who wins if you make thi hole board full of this?
ohlord [1d\]: hmmm ponnuki in the center counts 30p so b got 90p there :-))
NorthWind [5k\]: no, load of stones for nearly no points
Murugandi [4d\]: some nice people still on kgs
Q161 [?\]: only one banned is murugandi
Q161 [?\]: from ever having a girlfriend
Murugandi [4d\]: oh no
Pepijn [2d\]: aargh
Murugandi [4d\]: mean man
Murugandi [4d\]: :(
Pepijn [2d\]: he is back!
Blitzbold [1d\]: yes, but w on the other side has 4 ponnukis
Q161 [?\]: lol
Q161 [?\]: :P
Draxt [3k\]: g9 
Monsolith2 [13k?\]: wow thats some fight
Wagaboo [11k\]: llya is angry
yamashitaK [5d\]: why ?
yamashitaK [5d\]: he is ahead 
N4KED [1d\]: b got touble I think
altrecop [1k\]: j8 and play ko ;?
Martin82 [11k?\]: simply put him on ignorlist, saves time and nerves
ohlord [1d\]: touché :-)
Murugandi [4d\]: q161 plz focus game no swearing we will ban you
Murugandi [4d\]: hello nice game :)
Draxt [3k\]: can't play ko
Emperial [2d\]: its too hot in tampere
Q161 [?\]: no racist comments or you will banned muru
Q161 [?\]: and no more trolling
yamashitaK [5d\]: oh man you guys are sucking
ExplO [2d\]: Q161, Murgandi, please stop
Murugandi [4d\]: ???
Murugandi [4d\]: :(
Murugandi [4d\]: mean man attack me and I stop?
Q161 [?\]: i agree with explo
Q161 [?\]: stop murugandi
Q161 [?\]: plz
Dino9 [6d\]: just ignore them
]
;B[jj]C[NschoTschi [-\]: did they make a lunch break?
Onibaku [1d?\]: E13?
Avrora [4k\]: What about their time?
dd33: please focus more on your girlfriends
Gizensha [?\]: feeding a troll is as bad as being a troll...
Martin82 [11k?\]: j12 now
mur [1k\]: black is spreading
Draxt [3k\]: j12 
Emperial [2d\]: who win?
NschoTschi [-\]: o18 
NorthWind [5k\]: oh no, honetcomb wars
Draxt [3k\]: ho wait J12 no more matter
NorthWind [5k\]: honey
shaula [1k\]: o18 -> i would ignore
HlFl [-\]: done
mur [1k\]: w lost..
N4KED [1d\]: lol honeycomb wars
Emperial [2d\]: ok
gacua [1d\]: I wouldn't ignore o18
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 32 min left for Ilya : 33 min left for Catalin
]
;W[nb]C[JachUGAN [11k\]: loool dude in blue is cleaning his noise  =D
HlFl [-\]: did they miss a move?
NschoTschi [-\]: I called it :)
Stevenson [3k\]: ignore
HlFl [-\]: look like j15 was filled in
Kickchon [?\]: i think its too small
int0x21 [1d\]: o18 is 20 points i wonder if thats big enough
shaula [1k\]: like I said, I would ignore.
NorthWind [5k\]: geez, they will both have long beards before this ko ends
Blitzbold [1d\]: cannot ignore really good?
zizu [-\]: cant ignore
gacua [1d\]: if b ignore, then j15 is questionable
Wagaboo [11k\]: ant ignore i agree
ohlord [1d\]: 20p but save all w groups
Pepijn [2d\]: I love all the flowers in the centre
Wagaboo [11k\]: yes
Pepijn [2d\]: beautiful!
shaula [1k\]: it is gote for white
Wagaboo [11k\]: so more than 20pts
HlFl [-\]: lovely
Draxt [3k\]: h8 
fsss: nobody is going to ignore this
Pepijn [2d\]: reminds me of my first game
Babibo [2d\]: btw, the value of the threat only has to be 2/3 of that of the ko
Babibo [2d\]: according to the theory
HlFl [-\]: oops, meant j12
Loons [4k\]: Field of flowers ko =o
Murugandi [4d\]: center is like virus, spreading over board
Murugandi [4d\]: I like too
Martin82 [11k?\]: y s that babibo?
Murugandi [4d\]: :)
Wagaboo [11k\]: kooooo kooooala
Murugandi [4d\]: flower virus
Babibo [2d\]: Ok I'll explain, because I find it interesting
Syptryn [3d\]:  enough ponnukis already?
Pepijn [2d\]: er
Wagaboo [11k\]: i know i know
jungseok [1k\]: O19
jungseok [1k\]: ^_^
Wagaboo [11k\]: its a field
DeathWind [1k\]: wow so many flowers c:
Wagaboo [11k\]: of kowers
NorthWind [5k\]: must be least efficient wall ever
myko [10k\]: Babibo, this does seem interesting. Please explain
Babibo [2d\]: there is a 3 moves difference between "w takes the ko" and "b takes the ko"
HlFl [-\]: its always spring somewhere in the world
Pepijn [2d\]: hm if only 2/3 I would take
Pepijn [2d\]: and win 1/3
WorldCop [2k\]: b has 120 points in ponnukis
Babibo [2d\]: like in yose, you compute the value by dividing the total value by the number of moves
Loons [4k\]: Oh because Take, and then fill
NorthWind [5k\]: lol Cop
Murugandi [4d\]: how much time do the players have?
Wagaboo [11k\]: Catalin seems very patient
Murugandi [4d\]: *remaining
WorldCop [2k\]: w j12 is a 60 point swing
jim [6d\]: funny shape
]
;B[na]C[Wagaboo [11k\]: very very patient
MKV [3k\]: half an hour both
Babibo [2d\]: concerning the threat, you spend 2 moves (the threat + the capture)
Wagaboo [11k\]: llya always moving
Murugandi [4d\]: ok thanks MKV
]
;W[ij]C[Babibo [2d\]: which explains this "2/3"
Babibo [2d\]: Was I clear ? 
Draxt [3k\]: this is giving white 3 more ko threat
Loons [4k\]: Yes, thankyou
Martin82 [11k?\]: i dont think i get that, but will think about it
]
;B[fg]C[NschoTschi [-\]: take?
Pepijn [2d\]: I always make 3/2 ko threats to be sure
Pepijn [2d\]: else he might take the ko
myko [10k\]: Babibo, I think I need more time to think about this ^^
Dino9 [6d\]: no tqaking
Dino9 [6d\]: taking*
Babibo [2d\]: have a look at "miai value" on sensei's library, this might help
]
;W[eg]C[Blitzbold [1d\]: my ko threats depend on the flop
]
;B[jj]C[goatsunday [8k\]: probably not the best place for a lesson, but thanks anyway babibo
NschoTschi [-\]: take would be so huge
Murugandi [4d\]: o nice guy on camera
Murugandi [4d\]: look!
myko [10k\]: Thanks Babibo
Dino9 [6d\]: p19
NschoTschi [-\]: p19 
Josh2605 [14k\]: wow they are still going at it like that huh 
jjermann [4d?\]: p19
]
;W[oa]C[Babibo [2d\]: I'll open a game in EGR, and we'll have a look at that, if you wanna join
zizu [-\]: its robert jiasek?
altrecop [1k\]: a w ponuki there make me feel we
altrecop [1k\]: wet
Josh2605 [14k\]: if they are not careful it'll be a triple ko
Murugandi [4d\]: he has strange shape under tshirt
yamashitaK [5d\]: yes its sum 
Murugandi [4d\]: maybe robot?
moriishita [3d\]: lol
FFH [2k\]: how much time left?
JachUGAN [11k\]: a gundam =D
Martin82 [11k?\]: what about the cutting point e14? cut there severe?
Blitzbold [1d\]: this is robert...
Murugandi [4d\]: robot jasiek
Murugandi [4d\]: oh he leave :(
gacua [1d\]: white has many threats at top right ... 
NschoTschi [-\]: he left
Blitzbold [1d\]: my eyes feel reliefed
Dino9 [6d\]: this and one more threat there
Babibo [2d\]: the demo is ready, for those who want to know about this ko value
Isobeutel [4k\]: das rumgewackel von Ilya würde mich wahnsinnig machen... -_-*
yuuubeiiii [4k\]: he is escaping for real^^^
NschoTschi [-\]: Ist er autistisch?
Pepijn [2d\]: English please
WorldCop [2k\]: tut zumindest so
uhoh [1k\]: haha
Blitzbold [1d\]: sieht so aus, aber wenn man dabei ruhig bleibt ist man vll auch...
plusguy [3d\]: le omlet du fromaz
JachUGAN [11k\]: ich bin sailormoon =P =P =P
Martin82 [11k?\]: glaub nicht nschotschi, vielleicht ein bisser überaktiv, und tut sich schwer mit stillistzen
N4KED [1d\]: what percentage of go players are autistic?
WorldCop [2k\]: oder er will seinen gegner verrueckt machen
altrecop [1k\]: 99%
pojki [3d\]: 6,7%.
NschoTschi [-\]: das glaub ich nicht
Blitzbold [1d\]: 100% - only the intensity differs
Hellhuman [1d\]: may you guys please not speak german but english
NschoTschi [-\]: das ist unwillkürlich
bolbi [-\]: could you please focus on the game ?
altrecop [1k\]: let them speak german
Pepijn [2d\]: focus in English
Martin82 [11k?\]: ich beweg mich auch viel, wenn ich schachspiele. einfach nervöser charakter
Boogeyman [2k\]: Ilya use hypnosis )))
arghhh: im full of focus,dawg
Martin82 [11k?\]: sry
WorldCop [2k\]: gibt ja auch leute die beim spielen singen
Isobeutel [4k\]: i just told them thad Ilya´s shaking boby would make e crazy...
Blitzbold [1d\]: sollen sie sich mal trauen...
NschoTschi [-\]: omho this topic has to do with the game
plusguy [3d\]: germans lost world war 2 AND world cup , they have no right to speak their language 
crusher [5k\]: N4KED: I'd guess true autism is so rare that very small percentage
shangji [5d\]: what is the original  time setting ?
mihi [6d\]: how much time they have?
mur [1k\]: bitte, nur Englisch
]
;B[pa]C[Blitzbold [1d\]: danke
WorldCop [2k\]: but we won worldcop!
Dino9 [6d\]: about 30 and 30 min
Martin82 [11k?\]: i am not German
Hellhuman [1d\]: please ban plusguy. that was a very sucking comment and i think all germans feel insulted right now.
]
;W[ij]C[Martin82 [11k?\]: german is not only the language of germany, right?
altrecop [1k\]: agree
bolbi [-\]: done
jim [6d\]: E14
Hellhuman [1d\]: Thank you bolbi
shangji [5d\]: what is the original  time setting ?
Murugandi [4d\]: ilya or catalin sighed very deep!
WorldCop [2k\]: ilya gegen zhang war noch nicht oder?
Martin82 [11k?\]: and i agree too
WorldCop [2k\]: err, kang
altrecop [1k\]: lol
NschoTschi [-\]: w to take is worth like 50 points?
HlFl [-\]: does someone know how many times these two have played before this game?
Pepijn [2d\]: this ko looks very big
shangji [5d\]: what is the original  time setting ?
Murugandi [4d\]: yes, abnormal big ko
Kratzdrink [1d\]: 2,5 h
Hellhuman [1d\]: 2.5 hrs each?
shangji [5d\]: then 5x 1min ?
Draxt [3k\]: g9 
Pepijn [2d\]: maybe black should play a distraction
bigfatcat [1d?\]: haha
Pepijn [2d\]: and then take back!!
niina [1k\]: indeed, it shouldn't be easy to play agains an opponent like Ilya 
hirakawade [2d?\]: I think 3 hours.
altrecop [1k\]: e14 looks big to me...
Hellhuman [1d\]: e14 take ko
Murugandi [4d\]: if I would be black I would play a distraction, yes
hirakawade [2d?\]: Because they are top players.
BuFFoon [10k\]: Wh time W-B ??
pojki [3d\]: the problem is that if white wins the ko and gets super-wall he can play e2 and kill the corner
Pepijn [2d\]: maybe a tesuji?
niina [1k\]: he is decently strong, but i was thinking about him moving al the time
N4KED [1d\]: Is Catalin under time pressure yet?
Hellhuman [1d\]: no
Murugandi [4d\]: ilya is moving like crazy on his chair
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 30 min Ilya - 22 Catalin
Murugandi [4d\]: trying to hypnotize pro
BuFFoon [10k\]: th
N4KED [1d\]: Thank you
Hellhuman [1d\]: e3 threat?
]
;B[ef]C[Hellhuman [1d\]: or still to small?
ZT1LB [3d\]: e3 1 small i think
gacua [1d\]: h15 j14 j12 then?
Blitzbold [1d\]: if ilya´s moving radius increases just by a little amount, he will hit his nose on the gobamn
ZT1LB [3d\]: 2 small
NorthWind [5k\]: saving this is going to cost B the game
Martin82 [11k?\]: ah here comes my cut i asked about earlier
Pepijn [2d\]: ah! I see a move
Hellhuman [1d\]: i see another
Surficial [8k\]: me too
Murugandi [4d\]: Kibitz has to stay binnen de perken
Draxt [3k\]: h15 j14 j12 h13 h11 still ko?
NschoTschi [-\]: I'd take again
ZT1LB [3d\]: binnen de perken?
Hellhuman [1d\]: j12?
FFH [2k\]: guess that was good move coz ilya stopped moving
Pepijn [2d\]: please take me seriously,
Murugandi [4d\]: within the gates
Murugandi [4d\]: sorry, my english not very good
Pepijn [2d\]: I was looking at the ko
Dino9 [6d\]: i would take
ZT1LB [3d\]: np
HlFl [-\]: somebody plz give Ilya some gatoraid
gacua [1d\]: I have been thinking, now if white h15 what would b answer?
arghhh: raid?
Hellhuman [1d\]: what is gatoraid?
Martin82 [11k?\]: does taking give up g16?
arghhh: repelant?
Ludmila [5k\]: like redbull
Blitzbold [1d\]: some may give him facepalm
Murugandi [4d\]: no offense, but playing ilya must be annoying. He is moving all..the..time...
hirakawade [2d?\]: Ilia's manners are a little bad.
Wagaboo [11k\]: just a little? ^^
Pepijn [2d\]: please behave
nyuuhaafu [1k\]: it seems ilya's chair is kind of uncomfortable :o
Worthless [-\]: Gotta do what you can to stay focused, I guess.
Martin82 [11k?\]: cmon that guy is just nervous
zizu [-\]: thats why hes not so popular
Pepijn [2d\]: don't disrespcect ilya
arghhh: maybe he got to pee
altrecop [1k\]: should be worst to play vs a beatifull girl
LaTonkin [5d\]: ilya rude
Wagaboo [11k\]: chairs are not comfutable at all
Wagaboo [11k\]: i've seen catalin
Murugandi [4d\]: sorry pepijn,I didnt mean bad
Wagaboo [11k\]: trying to find how to seat
Hellhuman [1d\]: he should sit and move as long as he feels comfortable, thats important
Wagaboo [11k\]: and search comfort
Koukkaaja [3d\]: some animals can only see if they rock their heads fast
Draxt [3k\]: j8 
NorthWind [5k\]: play standing up .. get better view
BeMyGuest [12k\]: someone suggested he might be autistic earlier, does anyone know if he is?
arghhh: which animals Koukkaaja?
LaTonkin [5d\]: j8
LaTonkin [5d\]: only move?
Pepijn [2d\]: Is Ilya a German player?
Martin82 [11k?\]: i once played a guy who always stood up and made funny streching exercises while i was thinking
Worthless [-\]: rUSSIAN
Hellhuman [1d\]: no, a russian pepikn
Surficial [8k\]: russian
rvrey [6k\]: w is ok for me
ZT1LB [3d\]: j12 is a move
niina [1k\]: isn't it disrespectful towards his opponent to move all the time?
Draxt [3k\]: seems white can't win the semeai
Murugandi [4d\]: I think Ilya is Russian
kamiiyu [8k\]: its just  a meditative state of mind.
Murugandi [4d\]: but family origin Germanic
rvrey [6k\]: L8
Wagaboo [11k\]: next will be
Wagaboo [11k\]: e15?
Pepijn [2d\]: so why are you so hostile?
BigJimBeef [7k\]: why do people talk about him moving and not the game?
georgeee [3k\]: j12??
Hellhuman [1d\]: i think he doesnt even realize himself he is moving that much
NschoTschi [-\]: If he were german he'd not be Ilya he'd be Elias
Hellhuman [1d\]: i guess in alle he moved some km yet
bERt0r [10k\]: Shikshin is no german name so i dont know where you get that from
altrecop [1k\]: he's nervous, it's all, i understand after 2 hours of game
Martin82 [11k?\]: both beautiful names i think
Hellhuman [1d\]: he alraedy shaked at the beginning altrecop
Gaarg [1d\]: j8
Hellhuman [1d\]: even yesterday at thsi 13x13 thing
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 5h of game
LaTonkin [5d\]: j8
altrecop [1k\]: 5h...
Monsolith2 [13k?\]: no he seems pathologically nervous
LaTonkin [5d\]: ei
LaTonkin [5d\]: hola
zakatan [6k\]: hola
altrecop [1k\]: well but he's ass cuold hurt, it's normal
Hellhuman [1d\]: 5h + byo yomi!
Murugandi [4d\]: bERTt0r I asked Ilya some time ago myself
Vorador [8k\]: how much time left euro?
Murugandi [4d\]: because I am interested in family origins
Syptryn [3d\]: he's not shaking!
Murugandi [4d\]: :)
Hellhuman [1d\]: byo yomi can take take one more hour
Hellhuman [1d\]: means 1/4 of a day, one match
Hellhuman [1d\]: wow
ZT1LB [3d\]: probably worked something out then
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 23 Ilya 22 Catalin
LaTonkin [5d\]: que chungo todo
bERt0r [10k\]: oh my
N4KED [1d\]: I think after catalin has already milked some ko threats now he wants to make it a real ko fight
Gymnast [7k\]: would h15 work?
Pepijn [2d\]: H8 looks like a bad move here
Hellhuman [1d\]: why h8 o_O?
altrecop [1k\]: no gymnast
DudeG [1k\]: h15, for b or w?  For w, I think it's bad, for b I think it's good.
ZT1LB [3d\]: h15 lets e14 be a great threat
georgeee [3k\]: i think  j12 is verry bad for black 
MilanMilan [9d\]: my friend tell me it's a crazy game...
LaTonkin [5d\]: j8?
yuuubeiiii [4k\]: catalin is 22 yo?
Gaarg [1d\]: I say j 8
Hellhuman [1d\]: who is your friend milan :P and what do you think abuot ws next move?
Hellhuman [1d\]: catalin is 37yo
Murugandi [4d\]: oh MilanMilan!
altrecop [1k\]: MilanMilan! Teach us a bit!
nasnad [2d\]: if you think that shaking/moving is bad you should go watch a chess tournament
altrecop [1k\]: please!
MilanMilan [9d\]: H15
arbas [2k\]: it's a crzy game man 
Murugandi [4d\]: give my greeting to Orandajinn, Tim
Murugandi [4d\]: :)
Lukan [4d\]: it was me :P
Syptryn [3d\]: I think I'd ignore H-15 as threat
Gaarg [1d\]: h15 j12
maoxiong [2k\]: hi
Gaarg [1d\]: that would make a awesome fight
LaTonkin [5d\]: j8, con un par de guindas!
aguilar1 [6d\]: G10
mur [1k\]: H15 leads to an ultimate ko, right?
MilanMilan [9d\]: I was  wondering it's that ok for w to just take J8
Vovka27 [3k\]: after h15 - j8 :)
LaTonkin [5d\]: claro, al final me da la razon
LaTonkin [5d\]: :D
Syptryn [3d\]: h15 k10 j14 h8 ?
N4KED [1d\]: There is no such thing as crazy games only crazy players :-0
Draxt [3k\]: h15 still ko?
altrecop [1k\]: aguilar or Milan, how many points do you estimate j8 give to w? or which is hte way to calculate this ;? please (and thanks)
Syptryn [3d\]: black doesn
ZT1LB [3d\]: j8 h15  and w die?
Syptryn [3d\]: need to kill white..
MilanMilan [9d\]: hard to judge buddy
NschoTschi [-\]: this game is unbelievable
shaula [1k\]: MilanMilan, would you have ignored the o18 ko threat?
MilanMilan [9d\]: More like instinct
sameasyou [2d\]: j12 and keep h15 as threat?
Syptryn [3d\]: as long as black can break into white moyo
Syptryn [3d\]: black ahead..
NschoTschi [-\]: MilanMilan which colour would you choose here?
Hellhuman [1d\]: ilya stopped moving :3
mihi [6d\]: How much time they have?
Murugandi [4d\]: can I be buddy too?
Murugandi [4d\]: :)
dd33: 20min both
Hellhuman [1d\]: about 18-20 min mihi
ZT1LB [3d\]: hard for anyone to make good snap decisions about such games when just joining
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 19 min ilya
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 21 catalin
Pepijn [2d\]: seems close
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;W[fh]C[Murugandi [4d\]: oh ilya behind in time now!
Hellhuman [1d\]: höh
Syptryn [3d\]: harsh
Draxt [3k\]: but don't H15 give black many ko threat?
kite23: b ahead
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;B[jj]
;W[il]C[Hellhuman [1d\]: uff
nasnad [2d\]: he is just w wants it all
zizu [-\]: damn
MilanMilan [9d\]: I prefer w
Hellhuman [1d\]: now its rocknroll
ZT1LB [3d\]: don't see this many kos often
Syptryn [3d\]: this works..
Excalibor [-\]: this is impossible to read
Syptryn [3d\]: ?
Draxt [3k\]: j10 
NschoTschi [-\]: oh
kite23: w has ko threats?
joejoe [5k\]: wow
Hellhuman [1d\]: n19 :D
fsss: catalins kind of game
joejoe [5k\]: "do ko as you please" game
Wagaboo [11k\]: g12 is ko threat no?
dd33: r3 needs attention right now after b has enough ligb in the semeai
Syptryn [3d\]: g9 j10 g10 h15 j14 j12 h13 h11 g12 g8 can white kill black?
aguilar1 [6d\]: F12 better at G10 I think
Martin82 [11k?\]: k8 lol
Pepijn [2d\]: many cutting points
Pepijn [2d\]: K8?
Draxt [3k\]: j10 l8 g9 h8 g10 and H18 died?
Martin82 [11k?\]: well at least  h8
NschoTschi [-\]: EuroGoTV are they allowed to make a regular break with clock paused?
Martin82 [11k?\]: sry
Hellhuman [1d\]: no
zizu [-\]: K8 are u joking?
Hellhuman [1d\]: nscho
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, they are
Syptryn [3d\]: g9 j10 g10 black gives two ponnukis, but doesn't white top group die?
NschoTschi [-\]: thank you
Hellhuman [1d\]: -.-
Martin82 [11k?\]: yes i was
hirakawade [2d?\]: Ilia is walking around.  Maybe, he is tired.
Hellhuman [1d\]: wow, ilya is raelly thin o_O
nasnad [2d\]: g9 doesnt escape so easily
MilanMilan [9d\]: EuroGoTV always here^^
Isobeutel [4k\]: Ilya is extremely nervous...
Murugandi [4d\]: ilya thin but with strong big hands
play234 [-\]: intense game
Syptryn [3d\]: the mark a true go athelete
bERt0r [10k\]: i understand he is nervous... he is playing a pro
Syptryn [3d\]: thin + strong hands
Martin82 [11k?\]: and a good game so far
bobombera [9k?\]: Ilya should practice  evolt.yoga
play234 [-\]: i doubt he's nervous because of catalin, he's played many other strong players
tapir [1d\]: if black connects, white prevents the cut, what happens after f11 then?
Syptryn [3d\]: I can't see what white can do vs g9 j10 g10 
zizu [-\]: I laso understand his nervous, beat a pro like that..:)
andreiraz [5k\]: g9 
Martin82 [11k?\]: g9 h8
sameasyou [2d\]: g9 not good...b has to continue the ko
NschoTschi [-\]: I am sorry that Ilya missed his chance to become a pro
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;B[he]C[Murugandi [4d\]: how come he didnt go pro?
altrecop [1k\]: is catalin a normal pro or his title has something about expanding go culture and so?
NschoTschi [-\]: regular pro
apples2: do or die time
Hellhuman [1d\]: he thinks he is not strong enough yet, he wants to become pro, if he is abtle to won pro tournaments
zizu [-\]: not regular pro
Hellhuman [1d\]: j10 only move?
dmf [15k?\]: not a regular pro since 2204
dmf [15k?\]: 2004*
Pepijn [2d\]: j10 gote
misjoe [1k\]: he is a ¨normal¨ one: he got through the exams and did the ooteai to get to 5d like normal Japanese pros do
mur [1k\]: Catalin passed regular pro examination in Japan, right?
hgh01 [16k\]: hi does anybody know the result from board 3? thx
nidza92 [-\]: yes
nasnad [2d\]: isnt he retired?
Hellhuman [1d\]: g12 :3
Pepijn [2d\]: partial won on board 3
misjoe [1k\]: yes, nasnad
hgh01 [16k\]: thx
NschoTschi [-\]: j10 maybe g3?
Hellhuman [1d\]: someone know, how viktor lin played?
Hellhuman [1d\]: i think board 6 or somethin
mur [1k\]: so he is truly a pro. I doubt that one can pass this exam just by expanding Go culture :)
Murugandi [4d\]: viktor linn is sandmann
HlFl [-\]: are there other games still going on?
apples2: mur he passed the exam and won a qualification game for 5p
apples2: check the interview on gobase
Murugandi [4d\]: j10 good enough?
zizu [-\]: but isnt catalin retired pro?
NschoTschi [-\]: no
Murugandi [4d\]: or not?
NschoTschi [-\]: he just makes a break
NschoTschi [-\]: not retired
HlFl [-\]: very good interview on gobasse
NorthWind [5k\]: B hoovers up more W stones
mur [1k\]: apples2: this was exactly what i wanted to say :)
ZT1LB [3d\]: seems to have calmed down a good bit
apples2: oh ok, well then i just made your point more clear to others :)
Nelsson [3k\]: what the heck happened here, last time I watched..
dd33: q3?
Pepijn [2d\]: a ko
Hellhuman [1d\]: j12 looks cool :>
NschoTschi [-\]: j12 nothing
Hellhuman [1d\]: hmpf :3
mur [1k\]: still, does anybody know who won in the Surin vs Dinerchtein game?
Hellhuman [1d\]: continue a ko is j12 :)
zizu [-\]: I heard surin
Kickchon [?\]: move 133 and time nearly runs out :O
gabigo [4k?\]: diner in bad shape?
ZT1LB [3d\]: what tournament was burzo vs kang?
apples2: so they are going to figure out the bottom in byo yomi :)
Murugandi [4d\]: ilya didnt see this coming?
Hellhuman [1d\]: second round zt1lb
rvrey [6k\]: I9
Murugandi [4d\]: or just didnt think about it?
ZT1LB [3d\]: thx
Pepijn [2d\]: Eurogo can you ask?
Pepijn [2d\]: we want to know
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: wat wil je weten?
DragonLI: doesanybody knows which was the opponent of Thomas Debarre ?
Hellhuman [1d\]: Benjamin Teuber 6d german
Kratzdrink [1d\]: teuber
typohh [6k\]: how ,many liberties does b have?
veiron [10k\]: J10
DragonLI: did he finish his game ?
Hellhuman [1d\]: actually i think he is 5d though.^.^'
Murugandi [4d\]: 6d germany!
bERt0r [10k\]: lets use some CSI technology and zoom inside his brain
NschoTschi [-\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-pairing-r4.txt
Murugandi [4d\]: I didnt know germany had 6d
dd33: Q3
yamashitaK [5d\]: germany has three 6d
yamashitaK [5d\]: s
Pepijn [2d\]: Euro> Murugandi [4d\]: ilya didnt see this coming?
fetti [-\]: Murugandi: There are more...
Hellhuman [1d\]: There are some murugandi, Christoph Gerlach, Benjamin Teuber, and Franz joseph Dickhut
Murugandi [4d\]: oh, nice
Murugandi [4d\]: :)
tooob93 [17k\]: xD
NschoTschi [-\]: Egbert Rittner
adiida [3k\]: if white doesn't j10 , i think black wil g9 and gain the necessary liberties to capture
Pepijn [2d\]: almost as much as Dutch!
Kratzdrink [1d\]: zou jin
Pepijn [2d\]: so very good
HlFl [-\]: was that the #6 bus that just went by?
Murugandi [4d\]: :D
Hellhuman [1d\]: dickhut became 7th place some years ago at amateur go worldcup :3...
Muscadet [?\]: And Zhao Pei - she has a german passport
Pepijn [2d\]: German already 3 6d
wolokom [5k\]: Dickhut still 6Dan?
Hellhuman [1d\]: yeah^^'
Pepijn [2d\]: Germans are strong
tooob93 [17k\]: yeah^^
FFH [2k\]: is there any kgs 9d in egc?
NschoTschi [-\]: gbert Rittner 6d too, no?
Murugandi [4d\]: dickhut...from english perspective a little strange name
Pepijn [2d\]: we know!
Murugandi [4d\]: if you ask me
Gaarg [1d\]: are they almost in byo yomi now?
Hellhuman [1d\]: who is gbert rittner? never heart
zc3k [1k\]: really crazy ko
NschoTschi [-\]: Egbert
fetti [-\]: Egbert is a former 6d
NschoTschi [-\]: he no more 6d?
gabigo [4k?\]: time?
kimball [4d?\]: retired, playing golf now
fetti [-\]: he does not play activly anymore 
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;W[ij]C[Murugandi [4d\]: ah! my move
Pepijn [2d\]: !!
fetti [-\]: thats all i know
Hellhuman [1d\]: hehe
Pepijn [2d\]: you are strong
zakatan [6k\]: no more ko
Murugandi [4d\]: :)
Murugandi [4d\]: thank you
adiida [3k\]: black should've g9 i think
nhanh [1d\]: looks like w overplayed?
happydog [7k\]: That is like the mother of all ponnukis for white.
misjoe [1k\]: W has 4 ponnuki in a row, he wins !
Hellhuman [1d\]: 5 tenukis for white !
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;B[fc]C[HlFl [-\]: looked like Catalin forgot to hit his clock
Draxt [3k\]: still ko
kamiiyu [8k\]: w group is dead ?
nhanh [1d\]: yes w has ko
Blitzbold [1d\]: i wonder why they still play - w got 5 in a row already...
starshine [5d\]: looks really good for w
Draxt [3k\]: j12 
nhanh [1d\]: isnt J19 better than F17?
zakatan [6k\]: j14 
Worthless [-\]: 150 points for W there, eh
jjermann [4d?\]: hmm but b is ahead
Hellhuman [1d\]: when catalin forgot to hit clock, ilya played in his time, so he could tell the judge, and he would win the game
motaba [1k\]: b has solid 80 points
Murugandi [4d\]: ilya making some noises
Murugandi [4d\]: "hmmm hmmm!"
Muscadet [?\]: I never have seen such a shape in a high level game
Pepijn [2d\]: F17 necessary?
Gaarg [1d\]: I'd play r5 here :)
mictromb [1k\]: The game is over no ? - b is winning
Hellhuman [1d\]: e2 :3
jjermann [4d?\]: lol
Lesmian [1k\]: have they played before or this is the first game between them?
Fredegas [4d\]: I think B has better game now
jjermann [4d?\]: the game certainly isn't over
Draxt [3k\]: trhis is semeai pepjin
LaTonkin [5d\]: where can we check the results of all rounds?
Pepijn [2d\]: thanks Draxt
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ilya 10min left
Murugandi [4d\]: I hear the clock
Murugandi [4d\]: ah
LaTonkin [5d\]: as in a wall of results, not just the pairings
Murugandi [4d\]: thanks eurogotv
shakti [-\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results.php
SciSan [5k?\]: black's on the roll
Hellhuman [1d\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-results.txt
mur [1k\]: this link is useless
mictromb [1k\]: thr fourth sansan is open yet
HlFl [-\]: wow this is intense
mur [1k\]: i mean shakti's
BFF [10k\]: wh time w-bl?
dd33: Q3
int0x21 [1d\]: White j14 win ?
nhanh [1d\]: are there speculations about who will become champion?
Pepijn [2d\]: white has a nice influence
DragonLI: Sorry about that, but do you know if Thomas Debarre has won his game ?
veiron [10k\]: J 14 or H15
Martin82 [11k?\]: who kills whom?
Murugandi [4d\]: j9 k10 l11 m12 --> 4 points for white
Murugandi [4d\]: not so much
Pepijn [2d\]: very strong group
Draxt [3k\]: m13 to j8 looks nice at least
shangji [5d\]: ?
NschoTschi [-\]: nice
Pepijn [2d\]: ah
nhanh [1d\]: :)
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;W[if]C[Kyoji [4k\]: missclick
Kyoji [4k\]: lol
Murugandi [4d\]: eurogotv dreaming
jim [6d\]: white in trouble?
Pepijn [2d\]: Eurogotv is joking
Pepijn [2d\]: nice one!
misjoe [1k\]: I thought W was compensating for the ponnukis by playing at least one solid connecttion at P4 :)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: haha =D
leisepfote [3k\]: if white closes his moyo at g2, cant it become a close game?
harpo [?\]: pls, no jokes eurogotv2
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: great joke i think
MilanMilan [9d\]: H19
mictromb [1k\]: H79
Pepijn [2d\]: this is VERY exciting!!
misjoe [1k\]: yes
nhanh [1d\]: this ko is not so bad for w
Pepijn [2d\]: I am screaming now!!
Lukan [4d\]: how much time left?
Draxt [3k\]: h19 
misjoe [1k\]: the best EGC game I´ve seen so far
kite23: so b leading :)
Murugandi [4d\]: I am screaming too :D
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: me too
Pepijn [2d\]: !!
nhanh [1d\]: h19 E15
BeMyGuest [12k\]: how old is white?
jjermann [4d?\]: Who is winning?
BFF [10k\]: w10-b20 ~~~ time???
NschoTschi [-\]: h19 j12 ?
kimball [4d?\]: w might end with two rows of ponnuki, overconcentrated
NschoTschi [-\]: no
NschoTschi [-\]: sry
jjermann [4d?\]: I kind of prefer b but I am not sure how much w will make out of the influence
PtitLudo [3d\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?IljaShikshin
BeMyGuest [12k\]: thank you
Excalibor [-\]: is that one Alex?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yes
Hellhuman [1d\]: influence is for attack jjermann, if opponent has solid groups only, what to attack?
BeMyGuest [12k\]: so he is 20
nhanh [1d\]: overconcentrated is a an understament
Murugandi [4d\]: ???why we screaming
Murugandi [4d\]: I stop ok?
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;B[hg]C[jjermann [4d?\]: Hellhuman: the invasion
Pepijn [2d\]: ok
Pepijn [2d\]: no wait!
Pepijn [2d\]: one more
Murugandi [4d\]: ok :)
Hellhuman [1d\]: you mean c3?
jjermann [4d?\]: no
Pepijn [2d\]: now?
Gaarg [1d\]: r5
Murugandi [4d\]: yes now stop
DragonLI: f11 ?
Murugandi [4d\]: thank you!
harpo [?\]: still ko?
veiron [10k\]: G12
x0000 [4k?\]: g12
hirakawade [2d?\]: White will capture H13 group, no ?
apples2: isnt o9 looking good now
ZoOoOui [1d\]: seems that w win ?
jjermann [4d?\]: no, w dies first
mictromb [1k\]: no
stf7 [1k\]: w dies :s
adiida [3k\]: i think white captures k16 , black captures f14
jjermann [4d?\]: J19 maybe?
MilanMilan [9d\]: what about Antti's game?
adiida [3k\]: and black takes sente to reduce white moyo
Hellhuman [1d\]: why are only fat guys joining this game? lol
hirakawade [2d?\]: G12 white ?
lesid [3k\]: white can't capture himself
HlFl [-\]: on Ilya's seneis page it sounds like 2005 is talking about chess results
misjoe [1k\]: after this fight, I like the power of o9 even more
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;W[gh]C[adiida [3k\]: k17 then
hirakawade [2d?\]: Waooo. I am 7d
lesid [3k\]: k17? what about l19??
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: hirakaerewa!! liselot h
LaTonkin [5d\]: yer
crusher [5k\]: nice results in Ilya's page. "The champion of Europe till 18 years" - does that mean the next champion is 2028?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: why are u not at the congress?
LaTonkin [5d\]: sure u r
int0x21 [1d\]: I think white needed to play e15 gere
mur [1k\]: if this is ko then black gets toasted
rifampicin [-\]: just H19
hirakawade [2d?\]: Liselot > Hi
rifampicin [-\]: err
rifampicin [-\]: J19
int0x21 [1d\]: h19 now for black
oilspil [3k\]: where is the biggest ko threath for b?
Onibaku [1d?\]: F15
hirakawade [2d?\]: Next EGC, maybe
x0000 [4k?\]: ko?
zeku [1k\]: j19 m19 g15 j12 ?
oilspil [3k\]: if it comes to ko
motaba [1k\]: I see no ko
Excalibor [-\]: mmm
starshine [5d\]: h19 e15
Dino9 [6d\]: f11
motaba [1k\]: w looks dead
Muscadet [?\]: no ko
int0x21 [1d\]: or i meed f15
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 6 min left Ilya, 11 Catalin
N4KED [1d\]: ko but catalin wins the ko
starshine [5d\]: still ko
nhanh [1d\]: F11 is good
Onibaku [1d?\]: yes w dead
NschoTschi [-\]: byoyomi is 1min per move
jim [6d\]: G3 for black
NschoTschi [-\]: ?
fetti [-\]: i dont see what e15 does? cant b play f15 like before?
zZKanadeZz [1k\]: w dead? how so?
Pepijn [2d\]: just a few stones
oilspil [3k\]: will g3 compensate for loss of h14?
Onibaku [1d?\]: F15 better
Pepijn [2d\]: you have to look at the whole board!
NschoTschi [-\]: e15 prevents oiotoshi?
Dino9 [6d\]: what's the answer for f11
Pepijn [2d\]: this is only distractions
o3epo [1k\]: w f12 mistake
Gilluled [20k?\]: H19-F15-G15
hirakawade [2d?\]: Dinershtein is watching beside go-board now.
mur [1k\]: byomi starts soon, right?
vitacola [4d\]: no
vitacola [4d\]: ko
starshine [5d\]: e15 prevent f15
zizu [-\]: white dead
vitacola [4d\]: b f11
N4KED [1d\]: black is dead?
o3epo [1k\]: w h15 good
nhanh [1d\]: hmm F11 still ko
zizu [-\]: I mean black is dead
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i would h19
Karnesun [5d\]: h19 
Dino9 [6d\]: how is f11ko?
Zitrone [1k\]: j19 for blac k ?
nhanh [1d\]: you can H19 eorugo 
zZKanadeZz [1k\]: E15 for W
nhanh [1d\]: play it
shikashogi [10k\]: f11?
apples2: h19 :DD
Kinoo [?\]: Kô...
bananas [1k\]: h19 is the only move no?
sameasyou [2d\]: not even ko...w wins
shindon [-\]: w dead
hirakawade [2d?\]: F11---D11
Worthless [-\]: Is there a minimum distance the spectators must stand away from the board?
jnalanko [3k\]: i can't see how black wouild die
apples2: 1k should know better
apples2: take a look at h19
o3epo [1k\]: w lose
Onibaku [1d?\]: if B not go F15 B die
MitziMo [1d\]: fun
Emperial [2d\]: ko
shindon [-\]: ya
harpo [?\]: Catalin has 10 min left?
stf7 [1k\]: have sequence?
MitziMo [1d\]: who wins
shindon [-\]: no white dead
Emperial [2d\]: i win
rvrey [6k\]: w
bobstep [8k\]: f11, g10?
zombocom [3d\]: no ko: f11 d11 d12 d13 d14 f15 
nhanh [1d\]: f11 makes ko bigger for b if he wins
Dino9 [6d\]: Eurogo what time they have?
nhanh [1d\]: but actually no threats
ZT1LB [3d\]: 8 connected ponukis
wolokom [5k\]: funny
Onibaku [1d?\]: BF11 W J12
bERt0r [10k\]: do they know they are in the picture, with cut off heads?
Citta [1k\]: h19, e15
ZT1LB [3d\]: is that right for plural ponuki?
]
;B[ha]C[Emperial [2d\]: its ko
MitziMo [1d\]: yes
MitziMo [1d\]: b win
]
;W[ee]C[Onibaku [1d?\]: yes
]
;B[df]C[Onibaku [1d?\]: B win
slim76 [2d\]: where are b threats? 
Gilluled [20k?\]: W dead
Emperial [2d\]: too dead
]
;W[ih]C[Dino9 [6d\]: f11 was better
MilanMilan [9d\]: ...
nasnad [2d\]: hehe
MilanMilan [9d\]: b in deep trouble
starshine [5d\]: w will win like this
Draxt [3k\]: h11 
oilspil [3k\]: w has m16
ponpon [4d\]: B big mistake?
NschoTschi [-\]: deep trouble + time pressure= loss?
Luna86 [9k\]: that ko is huge
starshine [5d\]: w only need to take lower left corner to win
N4KED [1d\]: the * has hit the fan
Hellhuman [1d\]: "only" :P
jjermann [4d?\]: this is no ko
apples2: f15 only move?
larske [4k\]: black f15 now?
donGoku [4k\]: deep trouble=deep purple? :O
gabigo [4k?\]: f15 
typohh [6k\]: f15 doesnt look like it works
Hellhuman [1d\]: f15 o_O?
jjermann [4d?\]: has to H11
Draxt [3k\]: H11
bananas [1k\]: lol indeed b has no t's
zizu [-\]: f15 for what?
jnalanko [3k\]: f15 leads to snapback
]
;B[eq]C[zakatan [6k\]: h11 doesn't work
zakatan [6k\]: b dead
starry419 [9k\]: would it be better if black plays f15 instead of h19?
nasnad [2d\]: e3 nice
Luna86 [9k\]: ignore and kill?
Firons [10k\]: F15? then M 16 how?
Murugandi [4d\]: oh robot man back !
typohh [6k\]: b cant afford to lose the g15 liberty
fdfff: kill
bERt0r [10k\]: cant ignore
Murugandi [4d\]: :D
stf7 [1k\]: w should eat black just to crush his moral!
zakatan [6k\]: ignore
Murugandi [4d\]: robot jasiek
adiida [3k\]: h11 works for black
Emperial [2d\]: eat
Emperial [2d\]: eat
harpo [?\]: w has m16 as ko threat
Murugandi [4d\]: strange shape under tshirt
Emperial [2d\]: eat
stf7 [1k\]: eat!
Hellhuman [1d\]: e4
veiron [10k\]: H11
DoubleLion [1k\]: eat:)
Worthless [-\]: Spectator with a chair. How nice.
Murugandi [4d\]: he even sit to watch!
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: 5min left ilya
veiron [10k\]: G15
jim [6d\]: white can answer 
adiida [3k\]: h11 works for black
hatego [3k\]: I thought I censored Muru...
Zitrone [1k\]: g10
gabigo [4k?\]: how long is byo-yomi?
Kinoo [?\]: g15, j19 and g19 to make another Kô?
jjermann [4d?\]: jim: answer how?
Kinoo [?\]: no
starshine [5d\]: if w capture then b is still ok
Kinoo [?\]: :s
Hellhuman [1d\]: byo yomi
Hellhuman [1d\]: 1min / 1 move
SUIRAD [1d\]: star is right
gabigo [4k?\]: thx
Zitrone [1k\]: white must play g10 to close the ko
Emperial [2d\]: b gets 3 moves
Emperial [2d\]: if w ignore
Dino9 [6d\]: no
nasnad [2d\]: just e4
MilanMilan [9d\]: w leads a lot
SUIRAD [1d\]: really ?
NschoTschi [-\]: how many periods byoyomi?
Dino9 [6d\]: because g10 is double ko
shangji [5d\]: how many period of 1 min ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 1
N4KED [1d\]: anyway you cut it b can drop the group
Hellhuman [1d\]: 1 period , 1 minute
NschoTschi [-\]: oh
Gilluled [20k?\]: F4
N4KED [1d\]: white on the other hand needs to win the ko
Hellhuman [1d\]: b + time
Hellhuman [1d\]: :D
o3epo [1k\]: w k12 very good
wolokom [5k\]: I would eat but i am not shure that this is clever
Kinoo [?\]: white kill?
nasnad [2d\]: no he dosnt
Weishenme [4d\]: G10 seems good
Emperial [2d\]: eat
Zitrone [1k\]: g10 is double ko, but black has no way to win it no?
nasnad [2d\]: white just needs to get some compensation and he wns
Weishenme [4d\]: enough to win the game
jim [6d\]: K17  local tesuji maybe losing move???
jim [6d\]: to early for that?
veiron [10k\]: H11
Dino9 [6d\]: Black can start any ko, he has 1million threats
x0000 [4k?\]: bh11 wf11?
NschoTschi [-\]: I would e4 and iognore f4 as nextr threat
Kinoo [?\]: ha
Kinoo [?\]: G10 Zitrone :)
ZT1LB [3d\]: f4 not next threat
Hellhuman [1d\]: is robert jassiek married?^^'
starshine [5d\]: b can still win the ko now, no? 
typohh [6k\]: didnt b j19 work as a threat?
hosainogo: jim, daca nu juca h19 il captura neconditionat cu F11
o3epo [1k\]: w k12
renian [5k?\]: if b gets k12 then ignore and play j19 i think he wins the ko
Draxt [3k\]: couldn't black G15 before E3?
typohh [6k\]: as a local threat that is
SUIRAD [1d\]: how much time left for Catalin ?
sameasyou [2d\]: jim...isn't h17 losing move?...better j18 and hunt him
hatego [3k\]: G15 would be self atari
starshine [5d\]: g15 f15 k12
]
;W[hi]C[nasnad [2d\]: b has not lost yet
]
;B[ep]C[jenj [6k\]: M-16 is a good threat for W :))))
Kinoo [?\]: ho
Pepijn [2d\]: another ponnuki!
Hellhuman [1d\]: o_O dont get this move
Pepijn [2d\]: this is great
Pepijn [2d\]: take it!
Murugandi [4d\]: d6
Pepijn [2d\]: no take the stone
x0000 [4k?\]: Cant ignore?
yamashitaK [5d\]: w´s shape is cool ^^
Woodstock [4d\]: 7 ponnuki for white
]
;W[dn]C[Pepijn [2d\]: b will win, but white has a record
Murugandi [4d\]: ha!
Dino9 [6d\]: lol, 10million ponuki
zakatan [6k\]: i have the strange feeling the pro is doing the same i'd done
Kinoo [?\]: haha
Woodstock [4d\]: a little overconcentrated ^^
krupiczek [4d\]: solid win by white
]
;B[ii]C[guiguistar [2d\]: w thick?
]
;W[gj]C[NschoTschi [-\]: m16 
bartosz [-\]: white ponnukis are overcocentrated
Zitrone [1k\]: g10 ^^^
Murugandi [4d\]: g16
Murugandi [4d\]: oh
Gilluled [20k?\]: double ko
LaTonkin [5d\]: aguilar's move
bartosz [-\]: 6x30=180 points for white
Murugandi [4d\]: sorry my mistake!
Murugandi [4d\]: :(
Kinoo [?\]: ^^
starshine [5d\]: will looks like this is the only way to keep b in the game
N4KED [1d\]: oh cool
LaTonkin [5d\]: aguilar sensei
shikashogi [10k\]: f15 ftw?
Luna86 [9k\]: this is cool for w
Wagaboo [11k\]: wow
Emperial [2d\]: no ko anymore
Wagaboo [11k\]: i've finished eating
Hellhuman [1d\]: wayne kagaboo?
Onibaku [1d?\]: G15?
SUIRAD [1d\]: can someone give me the link to the broadcast ?!!
Wagaboo [11k\]: and black is in trouble
zakatan [6k\]: some more ponnukis
erickoston [2d\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
SUIRAD [1d\]: tx
bigfatcat [1d?\]: now what rules 
herminator [-\]: Heh, so now black has infinite ko threats :)
nasnad [2d\]: but infinite ko-threats for next ko?
N4KED [1d\]: that b group was always light I think
Zitrone [1k\]: yop
Worthless [-\]: ooh, imagine a triple ko
Pepijn [2d\]: Q3!
Hellhuman [1d\]: this game may end up in a draw ^.^v
]
;B[dh]C[NschoTschi [-\]: o3 
Onibaku [1d?\]: B need F15 or G15
bigfatcat [1d?\]: spectacular....
Wagaboo [11k\]: triple ko possible?
Worthless [-\]: Huh?
jjermann [4d?\]: H11
N4KED [1d\]: no ko
Kinoo [?\]: he take h11  or not....?
Pepijn [2d\]: herminator is back
NschoTschi [-\]: this looks like aji keshi to me
N4KED [1d\]: b dead
]
;W[fi]C[Dino9 [6d\]: b loses the chance to play any ko
Luna86 [9k\]: o.O
Kinoo [?\]: not :/
Hellhuman [1d\]: haha
Worthless [-\]: So much for the triple ko
bigfatcat [1d?\]: d12 is now just for little cash right ?=
Hellhuman [1d\]: thats ilya style :3
burtabel [4d\]: what was that
genki [-\]: so many ponnuki
Kinoo [?\]: ha
Draxt [3k\]: r3 ?
N4KED [1d\]: but its okay
nasnad [2d\]: i thought that was early
herminator [-\]: whuh? Black removes infinite ko threats for what?
stf7 [1k\]: this looks MIGHTY
erickoston [2d\]: ilya has a good rhythm
Farcas [3d\]: :(
Kinoo [?\]: it's dead isn't it?
Gaarg [1d\]: why didnt white take?
oktan [6k\]: time ?
mur [1k\]: why not w D11?
dd33: i think w has some thickness in the center...
andreiraz [5k\]: j19 
Weishenme [4d\]: yes D11 better
Murugandi [4d\]: ilya back to hypnotize mode
hatego [3k\]: Dead as a door nail.
jjermann [4d?\]: no
Draxt [3k\]: d11 d13 f11 
jjermann [4d?\]: D11 makes D13 sente
fuzhou [4d\]: e6?
jjermann [4d?\]: now w can play C13
nasnad [2d\]: if d11 d13 is sente
blueshoe [2k\]: IS K11 alive?
Zitrone [1k\]: q3?
nasnad [2d\]: looks much better this way
]
;B[en]C[Hellhuman [1d\]: k11 dead :3
Larrave [1d\]: ponukifestival
Larrave [1d\]: XD
Wagaboo [11k\]: what about f15?
ekku [-\]: b got ponnuked
Gaarg [1d\]: its pro time to make things balanced 
Wagaboo [11k\]: it isn't good?
Gaarg [1d\]: if thats possible
bigfatcat [1d?\]: yeah!
Onibaku [1d?\]: F15 better
genki [-\]: ponnuked lol
N4KED [1d\]: anyways b will win
Woodstock [4d\]: 34 stones surrounding  ~30 points of territory
Murugandi [4d\]: clock talking about chickens?
Woodstock [4d\]: this is how you make your opponent pay
yamashitaK [5d\]: nobi
hatego [3k\]: Are they both in BY? I hear the clock blabbing.
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: ilya byoyomi
Murugandi [4d\]: I not understand
hirakawade [2d?\]: f15--G15 atari
nasnad [2d\]: no, b is in trouble now
Emperial [2d\]: how long byo
Emperial [2d\]: yom
Emperial [2d\]: i
hatego [3k\]: 1x1
]
;W[gr]C[nasnad [2d\]: w looks better
Murugandi [4d\]: 40 chickens
Murugandi [4d\]: ?
aristide [1k\]: b has some points
]
;B[dm]C[aristide [1k\]: without middle he's still in the game
Pepijn [2d\]: what do you mean?
Isobeutel [4k\]: seconds, not chikens
Larrave [1d\]: 40 chickens hehe
Larrave [1d\]: its like mc donalds or so:D
aristide [1k\]: 4th line is not sure 
]
;W[cn]C[JachUGAN [11k\]: ducks are better than chickens
dd33: I prefer SE
Hellhuman [1d\]: 575 specs :D
hatego [3k\]: Hard to say W has anything on the lower right side.
Ula [1d\]: speculators ?
Emperial [2d\]: can b still win
Emperial [2d\]: i dont think so
N4KED [1d\]: no
Martin82 [11k?\]: quesition is what happens at the lower right and lower side
N4KED [1d\]: oh b will win
gabigo [4k?\]: b has to win
HlFl [-\]: why Kang didn't stay to watch the game?
Larrave [1d\]: middle looks to big in my opinion
LaTonkin [5d\]: I know a 5p who thinks b can still win
Murugandi [4d\]: kang to hot to handle
Murugandi [4d\]: too
donGoku [4k\]: but b can own all the corners if he want ^^
fuzhou [4d\]: g3
Murugandi [4d\]: to to
Gaarg [1d\]: black can win
bigfatcat [1d?\]: can w win? w needslike 70 points as well
int0x21 [1d\]: Black has close to 80 points
jjermann [4d?\]: w is winning atm I think
Gaarg [1d\]: middle isnt so much points as there are too many white stones haha
int0x21 [1d\]: So its not like its over
KptMorgan [3d\]: w has komi.
int0x21 [1d\]: Sinec black is out in center
jjermann [4d?\]: not over
N4KED [1d\]: white zero territory
hatego [3k\]: How was Artem v. Kang? Sad Artem lost.
int0x21 [1d\]: And right lower side is completely open
Emperial [2d\]: g2 mistake
SUIRAD [1d\]: w ahead  but b will win 
bigfatcat [1d?\]: center is more than zero :)
Pepijn [2d\]: Kang butchered him but it was nice
]
;B[do]C[Murugandi [4d\]: butchering is always nice
SUIRAD [1d\]: wow
bERt0r [10k\]: center 40 maybe?
bigfatcat [1d?\]: ahead on position, not on territory
]
;W[co]C[Worthless [-\]: d5 is extremely strange
NschoTschi [-\]: stream slower than KGS now
Hellhuman [1d\]: jo :3
int0x21 [1d\]: I think black loos ok here
Hellhuman [1d\]: ko*
gdghgjd [2d\]: why is black not able to win? white has more territory I think
int0x21 [1d\]: looks
MitziMo [1d\]: no choice for b...
bigfatcat [1d?\]: center slightly over 30...
Worthless [-\]: c7 next?
ZT1LB [3d\]: maybe artem overcompensating for people who say he plays too safe lol
Larrave [1d\]: did alex win?
]
;B[gq]C[hatego [3k\]: What is the story behinf Kang? Former insei?
Hellhuman [1d\]: first league, yeah
Larrave [1d\]: guess so
stf7 [1k\]: y
Pepijn [2d\]: korean player, very strong
]
;W[eo]C[hatego [3k\]: Ahh.
bigfatcat [1d?\]: ok w will gain quickly...
]
;B[fo]C[zizu [-\]: kang is 7d in korea so damn strong
]
;W[em]C[fatihsulak [-\]: how many ponnukis? 
]
;B[fn]C[hatego [3k\]: 1st league insei will win tournament. ^^
Larrave [1d\]: "failed" korean inseis stronger than european p:D
Emperial [2d\]: of course
bikle [5k\]: How much regular time do both players have left until byoyomi ?
mictromb [1k\]: ans after sansan
JachUGAN [11k\]: how old is she?
]
;W[hq]
;B[fp]C[Emperial [2d\]: best european players maybe 3rd league at best
NschoTschi [-\]: w in byoyomi
Pepijn [2d\]: already in overtime now
Hellhuman [1d\]: i think dienerchstein was like 5th class when he promoted
]
;W[nq]C[bikle [5k\]: Ok thanks
Hellhuman [1d\]: got promotion*
DragonLI: kang and ilya last stronger player with no defeats ?
Hellhuman [1d\]: ;)
Feelss [9k\]: who win?
SUIRAD [1d\]: ouch this is big
Wagaboo [11k\]: :( bad for b
jjermann [4d?\]: now I feel like w is winning
NschoTschi [-\]: w is win
]
;B[cm]C[ZT1LB [3d\]: and sum
Wagaboo [11k\]: b has an idea
Kinoo [?\]: wow
jjermann [4d?\]: he surely read C7 right?
Wagaboo [11k\]: kill :3
DragonLI: sum ?
gabigo [4k?\]: dic catalin lose any games?
genki [-\]: robert jasiek
stf7 [1k\]: jasiek xd
gabigo [4k?\]: did*
Wagaboo [11k\]: b wants blood
fairgo1 [2d\]: is there live feed for this game?
N4KED [1d\]: no not yet
]
;W[bm]
;B[bl]C[jnalanko [3k\]: both players are undefeated so fare
jnalanko [3k\]: far
hatego [3k\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-results.txt
]
;W[am]C[N4KED [1d\]: also catalin has 80 percent wins as normal percentage
zizu [-\]: is jasiek sleeping?
sameasyou [2d\]: w alive
Worthless [-\]: fairgo1: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
Hellhuman [1d\]: hope w calculated this :3
fatihsulak [-\]: both alive... funny
Larrave [1d\]: w alive
jjermann [4d?\]: he surely did
wolokom [5k\]: Nett
jjermann [4d?\]: because it is the most obvious next move of b
hatego [3k\]: Is the giant Cornel?
zizu [-\]: no its csaba
mictromb [1k\]: S4
Murugandi [4d\]: ilya is making agressive gestures with his jaw
NschoTschi [-\]: i thiought of rob
Hellhuman [1d\]: eurogot tv, may you show the spectators for one second? their faces?
N4KED [1d\]: I like cassava
Worthless [-\]: Who's the sitting one?
fairgo1 [2d\]: Thanks
Hellhuman [1d\]: and cornel isnt the giant
hatego [3k\]: He should remove his shins so we could see his face.
Murugandi [4d\]: yw
fatihsulak [-\]: sum
Worthless [-\]: Thanks
Pepijn [2d\]: he has big jaw?
jjermann [4d?\]: what is the best move in the lower right corner?
SUIRAD [1d\]: ilya seems to a very nervous guy
jjermann [4d?\]: for w
SUIRAD [1d\]: he's moving all the time
]
;B[ck]C[jjermann [4d?\]: R5?
]
;W[bq]
;B[br]C[Wagaboo [11k\]: r3 for me
Hellhuman [1d\]: a2 ko ^.^v
Hellhuman [1d\]: haha
yuuubeiiii [4k\]: a hottie is sitting in front of the board :D
Sjonny [9k\]: How long has this game been going on ?
N4KED [1d\]: is robert the lawyer?
genki [-\]: hottie
Kinoo [?\]: mmmm
NschoTschi [-\]: a3 
NschoTschi [-\]: no?
hatego [3k\]: Are you talking about Eurogo?
Hellhuman [1d\]: w got to watch his time :>
Larrave [1d\]: maybe he thinking about other moves
jjermann [4d?\]: B10?
hatego [3k\]: Game has been > 5 hours.
]
;W[cj]C[Sjonny [9k\]: Really
Sjonny [9k\]: Wow
Emperial [2d\]: :O
Wagaboo [11k\]: woa
N4KED [1d\]: wooopi
Emperial [2d\]: kill
Hellhuman [1d\]: w wants it all :D
Emperial [2d\]: b dead
Wagaboo [11k\]: w wants to die?
Hellhuman [1d\]: w wants b to die
slim76 [2d\]: w isn't dying
NschoTschi [-\]: C10 strong
MegaPerle [2d\]: Wont die
zizu [-\]: black resign soon
Kinoo [?\]: b10 maybe?...
]
;B[bj]C[Hellhuman [1d\]: hane
Sjonny [9k\]: 7d against 5p ? dont get it amateur vs pro ?
N4KED [1d\]: b can atari out to gain libs
thekar [7k\]: what is ilyas account on kgs again?
Wagaboo [11k\]: good kinoo ^^
]
;W[bi]C[Emperial [2d\]: roln111
stf7 [1k\]: roln
fairgo1 [2d\]: roln111
hatego [3k\]: roln###
ZT1LB [3d\]: regret e11 ?
hatego [3k\]: Yeah, 111. :-P
stf7 [1k\]: :D
Nelsson [3k\]: very strong amateur vs pro
Sjonny [9k\]: oh ok
IstTengen [3k\]: 5p is no longer active pro
]
;B[bh]C[aguilar1 [6d\]: C9 better at C8
Kinoo [?\]: ^^
SUIRAD [1d\]: ko
Nelsson [3k\]: yes.. so it's a very strong amateur vs retired pro
gabigo [4k?\]: is catalin in byo yomi?
AIDSummer [4k\]: can i find the results online so far?
WorldCop [2k\]: ko or what?
DragonLI: ko
Sjonny [9k\]: scroll up summer
Hellhuman [1d\]: flower ko though
BeMyGuest [12k\]: there is a website, but I don't like it at all
beginner93 [1k\]: b has been koed
N4KED [1d\]: if its a ko the catalin wins
ZT1LB [3d\]: if not d12 would have infinite threats here
wolokom [5k\]: no ko
]
;W[aj]C[beginner93 [1k\]: d8
]
;B[ak]C[Kinoo [?\]: a9
N4KED [1d\]: because unlimited threats
Kinoo [?\]: ^^
fatihsulak [-\]: a2 will end ko 
BeMyGuest [12k\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/
]
;W[bk]C[DoubleLion [1k\]: http://www.egc2010.fi/results/egc-main-results.txt
wolokom [5k\]: ok ko
motaba [1k\]: triple ko?
Murugandi [4d\]: this looks like ko
]
;B[ia]
;W[hi]
;B[bj]C[Larrave [1d\]: good ko for white
AIDSummer [4k\]: thank you1
AIDSummer [4k\]: !*
Hellhuman [1d\]: yeah, like flowerko
Larrave [1d\]: or not
jjermann [4d?\]: A2 looks fine
WorldCop [2k\]: w has 240 points from ponnukis
beginner93 [1k\]: there's no need to da jie
Hellhuman [1d\]: 9 ponukis :3
Worthless [-\]: I count 9 ponnuki - so 270 
wolokom [5k\]: d 8?
Kinoo [?\]: a11 ?
motaba [1k\]: it stopped being funny 2hrs ago
beginner93 [1k\]: d8
zizu [-\]: huge ko
]
;W[dl]C[N4KED [1d\]: white double chinese wall
Kinoo [?\]: ha
Gaarg [1d\]: wow those are two intense players on video
stf7 [1k\]: hard to reduce that :D
SUIRAD [1d\]: w is gonna win the ko....
WorldCop [2k\]: w center seems alive now though
Hellhuman [1d\]: sure aobut w living :P?
thekar [7k\]: resign?
Kilik [1k\]: lol!
ZT1LB [3d\]: down to bioyomi yet?
WorldCop [2k\]: seems hard to kill
N4KED [1d\]: white has effeciency problems
deft [4d\]: W seems a little overconcentrated in the center ;)
]
;B[cl]C[Larrave [1d\]: did alex win?
shangji [5d\]: is catalin in byoyomi  ?
]
;W[bk]C[jjermann [4d?\]: the center is not completely alive yet
jjermann [4d?\]: it is still theoretically possible to capture it
Hellhuman [1d\]: ha, w connects :>
Worthless [-\]: Can sum really see the board from that far away and that angle?
AlGois [6k\]: white group in the center is living by ko only XD
stf7 [1k\]: wow
stf7 [1k\]: so good
nsysu [3d\]: black 5 p ?
hirakawade [2d?\]: Taranu doit abandonner.
]
;B[qp]C[Martin82 [11k?\]: e8
Hellhuman [1d\]: maybe sum just looked for a place to sleep?
Emperial [2d\]: lol
ZT1LB [3d\]: lol quite tired and read that as did aphex twin larrave
SUIRAD [1d\]: ignore
N4KED [1d\]: white win ko but lose game
Kinoo [?\]: hé d9  and not b9  for white?
hatego [3k\]: Sum = Jasiek?
bigfatcat [1d?\]: yes
jjermann [4d?\]: w can continue the ko, no?
jjermann [4d?\]: because w has A2?
SUIRAD [1d\]: who is Jasiek ?
Hellhuman [1d\]: sum = = jasiek
hatego [3k\]: Did not know that.
Larrave [1d\]: what about me ZT1LB?
N4KED [1d\]: Jasiek is lawyer?
Larrave [1d\]: xD
zizu [-\]: hes in REM now
Murugandi [4d\]: take ko
KAMEHb [1d\]: w alive left without ko
Hellhuman [1d\]: jasiek is a european who invented some strange fuseki theories :>
DoubleLion [1k\]: just answer
Pepijn [2d\]: its w turn
Anubis [1d?\]: wow, strange pattern in the middle :D
Buchla259e [8k\]: aphex twin?
]
;W[qo]C[Murugandi [4d\]: oh
Worthless [-\]: He's more of a mathematician, I think
]
;B[bj]C[wolokom [5k\]: hm
ZT1LB [3d\]: had misread did alex win
thekar [7k\]: i wish i could see the whole game
Kinoo [?\]: c8  is dead no?
DoubleLion [1k\]: d9
beginner93 [1k\]: d9
glint [-\]: German rules guy
stf7 [1k\]: A8
sohigh [1k\]: jasiek is some kind of rule pro... go is the main part in his life, but hes not strong enough for beeing a go pro... so he calls hiself rule pro ^^
myongstu [4d\]: a8
renian [5k?\]: why not w d9?
Cookiex [-\]: it looks very difficult to see black winning
stf7 [1k\]: a8
stf7 [1k\]: is best
Hellhuman [1d\]: thekar, click on options, local
NschoTschi [-\]: Hellhuman: not good enough to be worth talked about
Larrave [1d\]: hes mathematician?
sohigh [1k\]: himself*
WorldCop [2k\]: d9
shangji [5d\]: how much time left for b ?
Cookiex [-\]: but i believe black has more cash
myongstu [4d\]: no ko
bigfatcat [1d?\]: f15 also a threat
Kinoo [?\]: no ko
stf7 [1k\]: aaa
bobstep [8k\]: m16
stf7 [1k\]: xD
gfdhff [4k\]: that fatty is sum ?
zombocom [3d\]: W a8 
harpo [?\]: d9
zizu [-\]: Jasiek is Ing rulse master
fatihsulak [-\]: d9 lose points but ends ko
qgo [4k\]: c13
]
;W[al]C[genki [-\]: yes
shangji [5d\]: r3 
hatego [3k\]: He's looking like a nap pro.
SUIRAD [1d\]: u don't believe in go  u count
Himura [1d\]: o10 
jjermann [4d?\]: what about R3 now?
Murugandi [4d\]: its very difficult to see black winning, but if you look good enough you can see!
deft [4d\]: is B really so bad?
Kinoo [?\]: c8  dead :s
stf7 [1k\]: wohoooo
thekar [7k\]: hahahaha
jim [6d\]: A8 is very funny
sohigh [1k\]: hes looking like a homeless
Emperial [2d\]: loooooooooooool
stf7 [1k\]: ilya like a8!
stf7 [1k\]: :D
jnalanko [3k\]: nice one
Katchumo [4k\]: jasiek no mathematician
Emperial [2d\]: resign time
WorldCop [2k\]: oh man so strong
thekar [7k\]: thats why i said resign 3 moves ago
Kinoo [?\]: ^^
adidas [3k\]: vaav
]
;B[ai]C[Worthless [-\]: He's not? My bad, then.
hatego [3k\]: Funky move
NschoTschi [-\]: Larrave he studied math but never got a degree
Kinoo [?\]: haha
]
;W[dk]C[Kinoo [?\]: ^^
Hellhuman [1d\]: ha, w rules
SUIRAD [1d\]: loool
hirakawade [2d?\]: Oiotoshi
zizu [-\]: nice
Emperial [2d\]: catalin half asleep this game
Hellhuman [1d\]: thats called owned
qgo [4k\]: catalin resign
yithril [2d\]: wow
misjoe [1k\]: resign
hatego [3k\]: Wasn't roln youth champion last year?
yithril [2d\]: ponnuki central
Luna86 [9k\]: nice job ilya
beginner93 [1k\]: actually b+10 now
sohigh [1k\]: why resign `? 
sohigh [1k\]: b is good
Wagaboo [11k\]: very bad for black no?
Kinoo [?\]: W win
Hellhuman [1d\]: w is better this time :P
jjermann [4d?\]: he did not resign yet
mictromb [1k\]: incredible
AlGois [6k\]: bye   pts XD
N4KED [1d\]: B effecient white fall for traps
]
;B[pq]C[misjoe [1k\]: B may be good, sohigh, but W is much, much better !
fatihsulak [-\]: white has captured black stones as territory 
deft [4d\]: I counted that the game is fairly close ... as long as B can live somewhere in the corner or lower side
]
;W[qq]C[sohigh [1k\]: b still can comeback
yithril [2d\]: here we go
Larrave [1d\]: black now destroying influence of ponnuki army
stf7 [1k\]: clock noises so fun
SUIRAD [1d\]: P4
Kinoo [?\]: hoho
Anubis [1d?\]: how wenr kang's game, today?
]
;B[rp]C[Anubis [1d?\]: went*
stf7 [1k\]: she won
Kinoo [?\]: ^^ white is great
NschoTschi [-\]: W not give up early :)
stf7 [1k\]: by crushing artem
hatego [3k\]: Kang won by resign.
fatihsulak [-\]: though it is difficult to fight against 9 ponnukis
misjoe [1k\]: oh, I trust deft & shall continue watching
Hellhuman [1d\]: somehow this ponuki remembers me of russias army , soooo big :D 
Anubis [1d?\]: good :)
cirno [-\]: W has ⑨ ponnukis.
hatego [3k\]: Ilya has youth on his side, I bet Catalin is ready for a nap. ^^
beginner93 [1k\]: s5
DeepBlue [2k\]: most ponnukis ever given by a pro to an amateur
jjermann [4d?\]: how much time to they have??
jjermann [4d?\]: I fear that one of them will lose on time
bERt0r [10k\]: what are those ponnukis good for?
thekar [7k\]: what is ponnuki?
Hellhuman [1d\]: i guess ilya may become pro in japan, höhö
HKitty [6k?\]: 1 ponnuki = 40 points
bERt0r [10k\]: w has no moyo
hatego [3k\]: I hope the winner of the tournament gets a sandwich -- Ilya is so thin!
]
;W[ro]C[jenj [6k\]: 42
Larrave [1d\]: ilya is like marsupilami just without tail
Woodstock [4d\]: in korea more likely
wolokom [5k\]: 10 ponukis
Hellhuman [1d\]: too weak for korae yet :3
Larrave [1d\]: (i mean his shaking)
Hellhuman [1d\]: he says himself ^^'
mur [1k\]: byoumi already started?
Hellhuman [1d\]: i cant judge that, lol
zizu [-\]: winner wins cow
Kinoo [?\]: white.... incredible i love that :p
Wagaboo [11k\]: ilya is just like L in the manga "death note"
Woodstock [4d\]: breakfast is too weak for korea too
SUIRAD [1d\]: time for P4
Murugandi [4d\]: go ilya, its your birthday, you want to party like its your birthday.
beginner93 [1k\]: I love the shape of white at the centre
ripeAces [6k?\]: w looks miles ahead to me
beginner93 [1k\]: 8 eyes ^^
jeremyS [5k\]: hi
]
;B[op]
;W[po]
;B[oq]C[Kinoo [?\]: ha
SUIRAD [1d\]: omg i'm too strong
ripeAces [6k?\]: sorry just tuned in :P
thekar [7k\]: could somebody tell me how k12 shape happened?
jjermann [4d?\]: r2
]
;W[qr]C[Kinoo [?\]: ^^
Larrave [1d\]: no wonder ilya is thin he looses 3 kilo per match with his movements:D
SUIRAD [1d\]: haha
SUIRAD [1d\]: XD
jeremyS [5k\]: is there live stream for this game euro?
Wagaboo [11k\]: thekar, clone and review
misjoe [1k\]: thekar: options -> view offline, then rewind and replay it
Worthless [-\]: Could Black have played r2 before connecting at p3?
zakatan [6k\]: watch the replay
hatego [3k\]: thekar -- many hane
Gaarg [1d\]: thekar: it took a while
mur [1k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
erickoston [2d\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV2
elohimmeth [2d\]: black is losing :)
Murugandi [4d\]: this corner stuff looks good for black
Pepijn [2d\]: ladder good for white
]
;B[oo]C[beginner93 [1k\]: hard for black to chase
Gaarg [1d\]: you should check the game afterwards
thekar [7k\]: ahh great hint
jeremyS [5k\]: thx u
Wagaboo [11k\]: of course b is losing
NschoTschi [-\]: m3
Florian [1d\]: 8 ponukis a 30 points => 240 npoints for w :-)
nasnad [2d\]: w must win now
Kinoo [?\]: not sure but.... white :p
beginner93 [1k\]: most likely white will win
jjermann [4d?\]: I dont think that w has the win in his bag yet
N4KED [1d\]: lol 1 dan logic
bERt0r [10k\]: 8 ponnukis in front of a wall = 8 points
WorldCop [2k\]: yes, w needs quite some points in the center to win
krupiczek [4d\]: n4
kostuek [-\]: counting
Larrave [1d\]: bert0r at least its 16
BeMyGuest [12k\]: 16 points
Larrave [1d\]: :)
NschoTschi [-\]: m3 
]
;W[ld]
;B[la]C[Babibo [2d\]: black is ahead if P5 gets out too easily
bERt0r [10k\]: ok 16 :P
jjermann [4d?\]: timesuji?
Weishenme [4d\]: time move
NschoTschi [-\]: timesuji
SUIRAD [1d\]: yes
Luna86 [9k\]: Timesuji
Murugandi [4d\]: timesuji
N4KED [1d\]: white got owned
Larrave [1d\]: voice quite annoying
Kinoo [?\]: ^^
Babibo [2d\]: I think white is losing
SUIRAD [1d\]: ok we understood
mur [1k\]: byo is 1 minute?
Blitzbold [1d\]: capsuji?
Wagaboo [11k\]: what is timesuji? ( sry )
yamashitaK [5d\]: w winning
sameasyou [2d\]: weird...Ilya won so many fights in this game and still so far from winning the game
SUIRAD [1d\]: time tesuji
yamashitaK [5d\]: but close game
fractic [-\]: they have to make on emove every minute wagaboo
hatego [3k\]: Timesuji is essentially a ko threat played for time.
erna [7k\]: Sorry, just arrived: has w a kgs-nick?
NschoTschi [-\]: CAPSUJI LIKE THIS :)
mur [1k\]: what is byoumi time here?
Hellhuman [1d\]: if youre going out of time, andp laying a move, just to start new period, its called timesuji
vandrei [11k\]: oh no black is losing
fractic [-\]: white just played there to get another minute to think
vandrei [11k\]: mahh
Murugandi [4d\]: time suji is when you need time and you do something 
Gaarg [1d\]: m3
hatego [3k\]: (meaning to reset a BY period)
]
;W[mp]C[Babibo [2d\]: black is so thick everywhere, while white has a lot of weaknesses
beginner93 [1k\]: b+9.5
]
;B[pn]C[jim [6d\]: Catalin win
NschoTschi [-\]: oh indeed n4 better than m3
SUIRAD [1d\]: N4 is the "plz resign move"
]
;W[qn]C[NschoTschi [-\]: ddidnt expect that
nasnad [2d\]: white has no weaknesses
planar [?\]: .
Weishenme [4d\]: Catalin strengh is in yose
Emperial [2d\]: that ponnukifield in the center is so fragile
Emperial [2d\]: many weaknesses
WorldCop [2k\]: there is no please resign here. cash wise it's almost equal
elohimmeth [2d\]: R7
erna [7k\]: who is w in kgs?
SUIRAD [1d\]: 为什么?
Wagaboo [11k\]: if you want your opponent to resign
jim [6d\]: M3
hatego [3k\]: roln111
fairgo1 [2d\]: roln111
elohimmeth [2d\]: roln11
Hellhuman [1d\]: roln111
Gaarg [1d\]: only chuck norris could kill white center
]
;B[mo]C[NschoTschi [-\]: SUIRAD let pro decide when pro resign
erna [7k\]: ok, thx!
LaTonkin [5d\]: roln111
Wagaboo [11k\]: smash him with a strong stong
Murugandi [4d\]: roln11
Wagaboo [11k\]: stone
LaTonkin [5d\]: roln111
Higanbana [?\]: 8 ponnukis worth 40 points each
]
;W[lo]C[dfdfd: roln1111
Emperial [2d\]: roln111
Larrave [1d\]: chuck norris kills white center with 1 stone
Murugandi [4d\]: roln11
OHHDANG [7k\]: anyone know who won between kang and artem?
LaTonkin [5d\]: roln111
WorldCop [2k\]: kang won
happydog [7k\]: Kang.
Murugandi [4d\]: kang won
fairgo1 [2d\]: Kang
Zairex [1k\]: seki
JulesCesar [4d\]: the game is more or less equal imo
Emperial [2d\]: kang won
Wagaboo [11k\]: kang
dfdfd: kand111
LaTonkin [5d\]: rolnkang
dmf [15k?\]: kang
hgh01 [16k\]: kanf
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: roln111
Emperial [2d\]: roln 11
zizu [-\]: dont roll
ZT1LB [3d\]: kang111
hgh01 [16k\]: kang
LaTonkin [5d\]: kang111
hatego [3k\]: krang
stf7 [1k\]: Kaaaanggg!!!!!!!!!!!1^^
NschoTschi [-\]: kang 
Wagaboo [11k\]: kang was hungry
fairgo1 [2d\]: lol
SUIRAD [1d\]: kang won
Pepijn [2d\]: roln11
SUIRAD [1d\]: XD
Emperial [2d\]: kang won
dmf [15k?\]: gank
]
;B[ci]C[NschoTschi [-\]: roln111
]
;W[bk]C[stf7 [1k\]: Kang owns
Kinoo [?\]: .....
Wagaboo [11k\]: sop XD
N4KED [1d\]: Kang
Hellhuman [1d\]: ahja..
Wagaboo [11k\]: stop XD
Monsolith2 [13k?\]: twoeye
hirakawade [2d?\]: +30 white
Martin82 [11k?\]: i think w played and excellent game and he deserves to win
SUIRAD [1d\]: this kibbitz is crazy
misjoe [1k\]: KGS must be really hollow to produce this amount of echo
jjermann [4d?\]: what about antti?
HlFl [-\]: will the winnner of this game play Kang next round???
burtabel [4d\]: just this?
fatihsulak [-\]: h2 
dmf [15k?\]: yes
Concinnity [6k\]: There is no "deserving to win". You won, or you don't.
HKitty [6k?\]: kang wins ao easily its scary
Hellhuman [1d\]: yes @Hifi
Anubis [1d?\]: I can't wait to see kang vs catilin :p
]
;B[hr]C[NorthWind [5k\]: poor Kang
]
;W[ir]C[Anubis [1d?\]: catalin*
Nikolaj [6k\]: who votes for the one with the nice legs in the back?
jjermann [4d?\]: Antti vs. Christian Pop, who won?
]
;B[gs]C[Murugandi [4d\]: roln11
HKitty [6k?\]: poor kang?
Weishenme [4d\]: H2 huge
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: antti
SUIRAD [1d\]: what was the final on 13*13 yesterday ?
hatego [3k\]: Yup, I really hate when people say "___ deserved to win."
Pepijn [2d\]: antti
sameasyou [2d\]: Kang doesn't win easily...she was extremely lucky to beat Cornel
tenebris [1k\]: since everyones tlaking about it, where can i find kang-artem .sgf?
Wagaboo [11k\]: kang can you become my girlfriend?
Luna86 [9k\]: horray Antti!
Concinnity [6k\]: B4 isn't small either
MaxMakinen [2k\]: antti won against pop? yey!
N4KED [1d\]: Kang going to destroy Catalin tommorow
crusher [5k\]: \\o/
Worthless [-\]: Check EuroGoTV1's game history, tenebris
Murugandi [4d\]: how many points does antti have?
NschoTschi [-\]: KANG
Emperial [2d\]: yes wagaboo
elohimmeth [2d\]: who is kang ?
jnalanko [3k\]: go antti!
SUIRAD [1d\]: king kang
Anubis [1d?\]: the new kgs idol
stf7 [1k\]: Kang is best
myko [10k\]: Isn't that Robert Jasiek in the background?
Pepijn [2d\]: 3 points
Anubis [1d?\]: queen kang, at most :p
Wagaboo [11k\]: kang we love U
Murugandi [4d\]: no its robot jasiek
Martin82 [11k?\]: I meant i am just rooting for him. he fought so brave...
NschoTschi [-\]: no its sum
PtitLudo [3d\]: kang plays here ?
stf7 [1k\]: she has no lose in all her tournaments
dfdfd: the supergirl who won my heart
stf7 [1k\]: Kaaang
]
;W[mn]C[PtitLudo [3d\]: kgs account ?
Pepijn [2d\]: kang won
hatego [3k\]: Kang is just a brain with arms.
zizu [-\]: u mean that sleeping guy?
stf7 [1k\]: Kang wins all
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, its robert and he is not married
springto [1d\]: yes, tight-pants jasiek
starshine [5d\]: the game actually looks pretty close
stf7 [1k\]: hahhahaha
falientje [10k\]: no kang isnt on kgs
tenebris [1k\]: got it, thanks worthless
falientje [10k\]: but on wbaduk
BeMyGuest [12k\]: kang beat artem earlier, but the most interesting thing is that she is a cute girl
ZT1LB [3d\]: ?txen gnak sv nilatac
PtitLudo [3d\]: ok
yuuubeiiii [4k\]: loool
NschoTschi [-\]: SPARTA
Wagaboo [11k\]: i think
stf7 [1k\]: hahhaha eurogo :D
Wagaboo [11k\]: b has to find a nuclear weapon to win the game
Anubis [1d?\]: eurogotv: don't distract on gossip :D
LaTonkin [5d\]: kang...where's kodos?
Eilinen [-\]: still playing?
Nessuno [8k\]: nuclear tesuji?
Wagaboo [11k\]: yes
Hellhuman [1d\]: vote 4 one more ponuki
NschoTschi [-\]: nucluji
Wagaboo [11k\]: nuclear tesuji
wolokom [5k\]: I counted it is close but white still leads
Kinoo [?\]: nuclear haha
]
;B[nn]C[Eilinen [-\]: how's time?
inewplayer [10k\]: what is nuclear
Murugandi [4d\]: 60 seconds one time
NschoTschi [-\]: h4 ,
Worthless [-\]: B can't let W get anything in the center...
MaxMakinen [2k\]: both in 1x60 byoyumi i think
jjermann [4d?\]: O7?
Luna86 [9k\]: Byo-yomi, both
starshine [5d\]: go ponuki!
Wisp [20k\]: is there a way to watch this from the beginning?
dfdfd: the tesuji
BeMyGuest [12k\]: did breakfast win his game?
]
;W[no]C[twold [1k\]: who is winning?
Wagaboo [11k\]: the tesuji that can help black win
Concinnity [6k\]: White bottom is pretty fragile
nasnad [2d\]: i say white eins by komi
bolbi [-\]: Wisp : options >> view offline
Worthless [-\]: Wisp, if you're using the client, Options > view offline
WorldCop [2k\]: i say b+5
starshine [5d\]: w win by ponuki 
Wagaboo [11k\]: white is winning obviously
N4KED [1d\]: ahhh...more ponukis
starshine [5d\]: !!
jjermann [4d?\]: nice this is sente
Nessuno [8k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?NuclearTesuji
bobstep [8k\]: wisp, or clone game
Kinoo [?\]: o7 ?
NschoTschi [-\]: sente
twold [1k\]: ok, so it's someone+komi :-)
]
;B[mm]C[starshine [5d\]: w + ponuki!!
jjermann [4d?\]: huh??
Kinoo [?\]: ha 
Ignatius [1k\]: o7 
Murugandi [4d\]: ehhhh
happydog [7k\]: Who is currently holding the record for most ponnukis in a tournament game?
Murugandi [4d\]: ...
Ignatius [1k\]: fjr ponnuki
Larrave [1d\]: next ponnuki
beginner93 [1k\]: q7
jjermann [4d?\]: I dont understand this move
Wagaboo [11k\]: black wants to create kos
Larrave [1d\]: 270 points now
jjermann [4d?\]: W Q7??
guiguistar [2d\]: who's supposed to be the strongest at yosing?
JulesCesar [4d\]: q7 p6 p7 o8 
ZT1LB [3d\]: more ko?
Emperial [2d\]: every ponnuki is worth 30 points
hatego [3k\]: Probably a 25k has that record.
JulesCesar [4d\]: b is safe
Wagaboo [11k\]: yes more ko :D
Emperial [2d\]: w so much ahead
bERt0r [10k\]: q7 not working
Hellhuman [1d\]: when exactly was this game starting?
jjermann [4d?\]: ah ofc
WorldCop [2k\]: if h4, does the clamp still work?
gabigo [4k?\]: how much
Kinoo [?\]: o7  n8 o8 m7 ?
Hellhuman [1d\]: running for 5 hours 39 minutes?
Buchla259e [8k\]: be careful with the ponuki jokes, they're antiques
BeMyGuest [12k\]: about 5 hours ago I think
hatego [3k\]: at 0700 GMT
]
;W[lm]C[NschoTschi [-\]: b hoping for time wion?
Anubis [1d?\]: it seems like a beginner game, where you keep leaving vuts and being captured, stone by stone :p
Weishenme [4d\]: ---> Emperiel, ahead with how many points you think ?
]
;B[iq]
;W[jq]
;B[hp]C[Nikolaj [6k\]: punnuki land
Emperial [2d\]: w ahead by 6 ponnukis
ripeAces [6k?\]: what is the time looking like?
dmf [15k?\]: this game needs more ponnukis
SciSan [5k?\]: so..many..ponnukis
peter2 [2k\]: shoot the clock
Kinoo [?\]: pff so stupid i not see p9  is dead ^^"
Wagaboo [11k\]: look everybody
Kickchon [?\]: go o7 for ponnuki
Luna86 [9k\]: I would like to see antti vs kang, antti did won rapid against kang on sunday
starshine [5d\]: one more o7
beginner93 [1k\]: why don't white q7?
Wagaboo [11k\]: black is regaining points
NschoTschi [-\]: b4
N4KED [1d\]: b trying to make ponukis now too
stf7 [1k\]: maybe w plans L6 just to be sure in his ponnuki ownage
N4KED [1d\]: he got jelous
ZT1LB [3d\]: 14
deft [4d\]: I think the game looks quit close, though I think W is ahead a little
siaro: gotta have more ponnuki
Murugandi [4d\]: j5 
]
;W[jr]C[Murugandi [4d\]: oh
bigfatcat [1d?\]: hmm b indeed did not get much out of this till here
deft [4d\]: less than komi, though
huggy [2k\]: b4
elohimmeth [2d\]: O2 go go
vandrei [11k\]: go CATALIN
]
;B[pr]C[JulesCesar [4d\]: i think komi win for w
Gilluled [20k?\]: i think after killing that top group white will come out ahead
vandrei [11k\]: recover CATALIN and WIN
jjermann [4d?\]: Q2 is just endgame
Martin82 [11k?\]: i think pointwise b is ahead, but w is bound to make more in the centre
jjermann [4d?\]: hmm, -just
Larrave [1d\]: q2 big endgame
fullgallon: maybe
burtabel [4d\]: mmmm
burtabel [4d\]: aren't we in endgame though?
N4KED [1d\]: haha........white can die
fatihsulak [-\]: q2 well timed 
avio [2d\]: did you count this?
]
;W[ml]C[fullgallon: forget the center
wolokom [5k\]: yes but it is still close
vitacola [4d\]: s2
Hellhuman [1d\]: i bet n5 ko later
Luna86 [9k\]: forcing moves and possible monkey jump with w2 i think
Wagaboo [11k\]: s2 is good tesuji
Luna86 [9k\]: q2*
N4KED [1d\]: white dead?
slim76 [2d\]: s2
Wagaboo [11k\]: maybe nuclear tesuji?
twold [1k\]: s2 so huge
Weishenme [4d\]: aiming Q7 for a new ko ?
jjermann [4d?\]: certainly not dead
NschoTschi [-\]: game is close
]
;B[nm]C[Hellhuman [1d\]: j5?
]
;W[pm]
;B[on]C[dmf [15k?\]: we must construct additional ponnukis
Higanbana [?\]: b about 68 + 19 points?
fatihsulak [-\]: some points in the center
yamashitaK [5d\]: o2
jjermann [4d?\]: S3 for w?
Emperial [2d\]: l6 
Dagobert [3d\]: w is ahead
fullgallon: w2?
Pinchilei [3d?\]: why does B connect before S2?
]
;W[nr]C[fairgo1 [2d\]: is it Japanese Rules?
zakatan [6k\]: b4?
Wagaboo [11k\]: s2 s2 !!
Weishenme [4d\]: w ahead with how much ??
NschoTschi [-\]: b4 hughe
Hellhuman [1d\]: yamashitaK ftw^^
Dagobert [3d\]: not muvh
Dagobert [3d\]: much*
Bauer [1d\]: w leads by 10 ?
burtabel [4d\]: hmm wasnt o2 bigger than q2?
Hellhuman [1d\]: oh, robert awaked
twold [1k\]: b4 way smaller than s2
]
;B[rr]
;W[rq]
;B[qs]
;W[sp]C[Wagaboo [11k\]: yeah
vandrei [11k\]: oh yeah
jjermann [4d?\]: still ko
Larrave [1d\]: q2 has o2 followup
jjermann [4d?\]: for s2
bigfatcat [1d?\]: i think b might do it
fatihsulak [-\]: probably black will resign after s1 soon :)
gabigo [4k?\]: b4 small?
Larrave [1d\]: + s2
Luna86 [9k\]: nice tesuji, but o2 was bigger for w 
Luna86 [9k\]: I think
Murugandi [4d\]: t4 eurogotv move
Gaarg [1d\]: j6?
hatego [3k\]: Liselot = lies a lot?
bigfatcat [1d?\]: small by no means but biggest?
NschoTschi [-\]: yes w waited for time
nasnad [2d\]: w can s1 later if he wants
Yggdrasil [6k\]: win b
genki [-\]: sum looks like a bellyful boy
Weishenme [4d\]: j- FOLLOWED BY b'
Zitrone [1k\]: i think black will win
Yggdrasil [6k\]: by 3,5
Kinoo [?\]: black can win.... but.... so difficult ^^"
Murugandi [4d\]: oh
Weishenme [4d\]: J6 followed by b4
ZT1LB [3d\]: how many points is s2
WorldCop [2k\]: needs a center move now
jjermann [4d?\]: B4!!!
nasnad [2d\]: just a couple
Wagaboo [11k\]: maybe if w pass b will win ^^
Robert99 [3k\]: black wins
nasnad [2d\]: 3 maybe
fatihsulak [-\]: j6 
yamashitaK [5d\]: b4
]
;B[bp]C[zombocom [3d\]: W +3
yamashitaK [5d\]: ha
stf7 [1k\]: J6 ?
vandrei [11k\]: b needs a big move right not
]
;W[bo]C[stf7 [1k\]: oh
vandrei [11k\]: now
joejoe [5k\]: j6
Farcas [3d\]: j6 
Kinoo [?\]: j6 ?
ZT1LB [3d\]: 4 in ko, so 2?
Hellhuman [1d\]: isnt j5 big :?
WorldCop [2k\]: 8 points
Kinoo [?\]: ^^
gfdhff [4k\]: d13 
georgeee [3k\]: l6 good for b
WorldCop [2k\]: this move
Emperial [2d\]: someone needs to tie ilya to that chair
vandrei [11k\]: j6
N4KED [1d\]: white t9
vandrei [11k\]: black j6
Kinoo [?\]: yes J6 is good no?
zombocom [3d\]: B l6 
scurge [5d\]: |I think all these kibitz are going to be surprised by the result
fatihsulak [-\]: last ko at s1 will decide imo 
twold [1k\]: t9 to lose a threat?
NschoTschi [-\]: BLACK WIN
]
;B[aq]C[sameasyou [2d\]: w win
vannab [3k\]: then the chair will start moving too
vandrei [11k\]: j6 reduce a bit w and give a bit teritory for black
diesel [2d\]: jigo?
Hellhuman [1d\]: j5 j5 j5 -.-!
N4KED [1d\]: white t8
vandrei [11k\]: no jigo
vandrei [11k\]: lol
thekar [7k\]: hmm w has been losing a lot?
Hellhuman [1d\]: is komi 6.5 or 6?
yamashitaK [5d\]: j5 good ^^
elohimmeth [2d\]: K5..
JachUGAN [11k\]: 6,5
]
;W[in]C[vandrei [11k\]: j6
NschoTschi [-\]: :%
Wagaboo [11k\]: 6,5
hirakawade [2d?\]: P17
vandrei [11k\]: oh no
Kinoo [?\]: ha
NschoTschi [-\]: .5
Kinoo [?\]: ^^
]
;B[mk]C[Hellhuman [1d\]: argh, ilya has no idea how to play -_-
genki [-\]: ambulance coming for sum
Xalesin [12k\]: ohoho
vandrei [11k\]: w saw
vandrei [11k\]: damn
Brown [1d\]: p1
NschoTschi [-\]: g7 
play234 [-\]: so many ponnuki lol
gabigo [4k?\]: b win
]
;W[dg]C[gfdhff [4k\]: ;p
misjoe [1k\]: when I count, I´m indeed very surprised at how little territory W actually has, while B has the whole top
Murugandi [4d\]: g7 big
]
;B[cg]C[KAMEHb [1d\]: w +1-2
Worthless [-\]: Black is jumping on the ponnuki bandwagon
Hellhuman [1d\]: d11
Hellhuman [1d\]: :D
Martin82 [11k?\]: me too misjoe
aguilar1 [6d\]: Black forgot the F7 E8 exchange earlier
ZT1LB [3d\]: very instructive how w uses the 9 ponuki to make territory
]
;W[di]
;B[ch]C[JulesCesar [4d\]: w 98.5 b 104 in my last count 
Hellhuman [1d\]: hehe ^^'
Summers: Good job keeping up, Eurotv
hk126 [10k\]: b is leading...now?
NschoTschi [-\]: g7 
thekar [7k\]: s11?
Wagaboo [11k\]: not at all
vandrei [11k\]: W+2.5 SE at this move
bigfatcat [1d?\]: .5 win
bigfatcat [1d?\]: ?
Worthless [-\]: But White says, "No ponnuki for you!"
endure [4d\]: omg I just came in, what the hell is that in the center?
vandrei [11k\]: go CATALIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thekar [7k\]: no
jjermann [4d?\]: G7
Babibo [2d\]: i count that b is ahead
Isobeutel [4k\]: sb called the police
DragonLI: g7
Kinoo [?\]: :s....
bigfatcat [1d?\]: center is tapestry of bayeux
humility [4d\]: w is overconcentrated in center :)
]
;W[oc]
;B[pc]C[Wagaboo [11k\]: waht's nationality of catalin?
hirakawade [2d?\]: P17 first
BFF [10k\]: ILYA !!   ILYA!!!
Eilinen [-\]: Hm
Worthless [-\]: Romanian
Nessuno [8k\]: is w mentally sane? He seems to have some kind of autism
sgjiehui [3d?\]: catalin is romanian
bigfatcat [1d?\]: good kyu question!
planar [?\]: Is any go player really sane?
Wagaboo [11k\]: he's always like this
miao [6d\]: how did artem do and against whom?
sgjiehui [3d?\]: went to japan
fairgo1 [2d\]: t9,t11 g7
MaxMakinen [2k\]: what, a person isnt allowed to move in the chair while playing?
dmf [15k?\]: artem lost to kang
ZT1LB [3d\]: autism isnt really insanity
contumaz [9k\]: t9
Nessuno [8k\]: I see
miao [6d\]: ok
mihi [6d\]: N8 big 
bartosz [-\]: my count is black +1.5
stf7 [1k\]: t9 is no good....
Orandajinn [2d?\]: ik ben henk
Wagaboo [11k\]: autism is another evolution of humans
scurge [5d\]: The sad thing is that Ilya will be exhausted for pair go quarter final with Laura :(
Hellhuman [1d\]: b91 w 89, i count^^' quick count though
Nessuno [8k\]: :)
jjermann [4d?\]: I would play G7
Murugandi [4d\]: :D
thekar [7k\]: w needs territory ... g7?
]
;W[gm]
;B[np]C[Murugandi [4d\]: my move
fullgallon: loooking now: b seems ahead
]
;W[mo]C[HAHAHAHAHA [3k\]: zozo ben jij henk
]
;B[sl]C[bigfatcat [1d?\]: m8 getting big
vandrei [11k\]: black needs sente
yamashitaK [5d\]: miao,artem was doing good ,but suddenly became too agressive
thekar [7k\]: g7 winning move?
]
;W[sm]
;B[sk]C[qgo [4k\]: welke henk?
apples2: what
yamashitaK [5d\]: he played a good game
Orandajinn [2d?\]: ja! en wat is uw naam?
AlexOss [2k?\]: Russians: killing on the run)
WorldCop [2k\]: stf7, check p9
]
;W[qm]C[Farcas [3d\]: s1 
Hellhuman [1d\]: i think it doesnt fit artems style to play too aggresive o_O
Farcas [3d\]: :))
HAHAHAHAHA [3k\]: ik heet erwin
mihi [6d\]: M8
qgo [4k\]: ik haat hans
vandrei [11k\]: black needs all endgame as sente to win
erna [7k\]: m9
Orandajinn [2d?\]: !!! coole naam
]
;B[ll]C[qgo [4k\]: heet*
Hellhuman [1d\]: big one too
Kinoo [?\]: :/
WorldCop [2k\]: b+2 totally :)
Wagaboo [11k\]: black to eat moyo
Hellhuman [1d\]: i count b+2 too^^' 5 moves ago
elohimmeth [2d\]: i think black O1 bloks white s1 
Weishenme [4d\]: L8 then S1
Eilinen [-\]: j5  next for b?
bERt0r [10k\]: no moyo
bERt0r [10k\]: was open from 2 sides
Bulbasaur [5k\]: why not s11?
Hellhuman [1d\]: one more ko at s1 hä?
jim [6d\]: white won I think
Wagaboo [11k\]: yes sry
vannab [3k\]: w mistake
Wagaboo [11k\]: territory
]
;W[kl]C[oapj [1d\]: p10
NschoTschi [-\]: W needs s1 and ko to win?
HAHAHAHAHA [3k\]: heet je echt henk?
yamashitaK [5d\]: w+komi
vandrei [11k\]: B+0.5
vandrei [11k\]: SE
Eilinen [-\]: j5 ?
vandrei [11k\]: at this move
zizu [-\]: white wins
Hellhuman [1d\]: se sucks vamdrei
dmf [15k?\]: don't trust se
thekar [7k\]: se sucks and is wrong
vandrei [11k\]: go CATALIN
]
;B[ps]C[jjermann [4d?\]: f7 for w
MaxMakinen [2k\]: why not J5 and H6 for black? sente?
hirakawade [2d?\]: S11---P10
vandrei [11k\]: we know
MKV [3k\]: lol se
Hellhuman [1d\]: hehe
thekar [7k\]: like g15 being no point
Hellhuman [1d\]: no ko anymore
goblinking [1d?\]: bulba : s11 p10
vannab [3k\]: jongens hou is op met dat gehenk
WorldCop [2k\]: cool move
vandrei [11k\]: but for curiosyty
Martin82 [11k?\]: how big is komi?
Hellhuman [1d\]: m9
]
;W[lk]C[HKitty [6k?\]: b very smart if he wins this game after losing so many fights
]
;B[ns]C[dmf [15k?\]: cmmon white.. one more ponnuki
]
;W[ms]
;B[os]C[zakatan [6k\]: 6,5 komi
HAHAHAHAHA [3k\]: cowboy henk
Orandajinn [2d?\]: ja, ik heet echt henk!!!
Hellhuman [1d\]: i want whiet ti play k7 and l6
Kinoo [?\]: oh
]
;W[mr]C[Hellhuman [1d\]: hahaha
myongstu [4d\]: very close
Higanbana [?\]: isn't it funny how badly SE counts, when counting is really the most defining capability of a computer
XAASD: tzj
Hellhuman [1d\]: i want white*^^
Yggdrasil [6k\]: win w
Murugandi [4d\]: w win :D
N4KED [1d\]: b n2 didnt work?
Yggdrasil [6k\]: ...
zizu [-\]: now SE is right
vandrei [11k\]: w black
adiida [3k\]: jf7
Murugandi [4d\]: im happy for ilya
vandrei [11k\]: i want black
WorldCop [2k\]: n2 m1 n3 
Wagaboo [11k\]: a4?
WorldCop [2k\]: works well :)
Kyoji [4k\]: t2 ?
Blitzbold [1d\]: i want w on board 1
Wagaboo [11k\]: a5 sry
fatihsulak [-\]: w + 1,5 imo
jjermann [4d?\]: t2 is gote
Moppel: wk7 honte
dfdfd: i was always there for the winner
awdrgyjil: w+1.5
]
;B[ng]C[Kyoji [4k\]: t2 for w
Concinnity [6k\]: Why did black play m8 and then didn't answer l8?
aguilar1 [6d\]: losing the F7-E8 exchange proved to be costly
Eilinen [-\]: when comes j5
ZT1LB [3d\]: tehre are good ses just not kgss
jjermann [4d?\]: F7
Kinoo [?\]: black win i think
ChoChicken [1k\]: lol i just got here, this looks like a 20kyu game !!!
Placoplatr [3k\]: white needs k7 and l6 in order to etablish a new world record of pennuki
KAMEHb [1d\]: b +1
]
;W[ho]C[Larrave [1d\]: h5
]
;B[ip]C[KAMEHb [1d\]: w lose 
]
;W[io]C[Weishenme [4d\]: if W+ 1,5 , Catalin was right not to resign
goblinking [1d?\]: who said "w is so ahaed2 after the capture of H15 ?
]
;B[fm]
;W[fl]
;B[gn]
;W[hn]C[Worthless [-\]: MilanMilan did, I think
]
;B[mg]
;W[mf]C[zizu [-\]: w+2,5
Hellhuman [1d\]: maybe wq was sooo ahead
misjoe [1k\]: I did, too :)
thekar [7k\]: w was 30+ ahead
Brown [1d\]: w wins
jnalanko [3k\]: w+0.5
Hellhuman [1d\]: and b fought back
Hellhuman [1d\]: ;)
thekar [7k\]: catalin stopped sleeping
ZT1LB [3d\]: 11 connected
play234 [-\]: 0,5 game?
]
;B[mj]C[ZT1LB [3d\]: in a 7d game
NschoTschi [-\]: n10 is w shape point
starshine [5d\]: w never was 30+ ahead
vandrei [11k\]: b+0.5
NotSoBad [1k\]: b win
KAMEHb [1d\]: b +1
Hellhuman [1d\]: 10 ponukis in center now
vandrei [11k\]: Go CATALIN
Hellhuman [1d\]: :)
Yggdrasil [6k\]: ui ui ui ui ui
jjermann [4d?\]: Hellhuman: that's another way of saying that w was not really 30+ ahead
Murugandi [4d\]: if b win I will cry
]
;W[aj]C[Yggdrasil [6k\]: OMG
]
;B[rm]C[vandrei [11k\]: i am hot
]
;W[sn]
;B[ak]C[wolokom [5k\]: s ahead
Gilluled [20k?\]: this is gonna be really close
Worthless [-\]: Tears of joy, Murugandi?
NschoTschi [-\]: g5 
Larrave [1d\]: white too many timesujis
Dagobert [3d\]: hellhuman: did you count the big "ponnukis" too? ;-)
nasnad [2d\]: w still ahead
Kinoo [?\]: supremacy yose of black :p
Larrave [1d\]: now he lacks kotrheats
Larrave [1d\]: :D
shaula [1k\]: t2
]
;W[mi]C[power [4k\]: w will won
Wagaboo [11k\]: kos areimportant at the end sometimes
Peritoine [1d?\]: jigo!
power [4k\]: will win
Hellhuman [1d\]: a10
mur [1k\]: t2 seems better threat
Wagaboo [11k\]: p11
]
;B[aj]
;W[sr]
;B[rs]C[nasnad [2d\]: has been ahead for the last 100 moves
Emperial [2d\]: w+0.5
stf7 [1k\]: g5 cool
Orandajinn [2d?\]: i count white plus twenty three and half
Florian [1d\]: g5
]
;W[ni]C[Kinoo [?\]: o11 ?
superdupon [2d\]: w+2.5
zizu [-\]: whats komi?
Kinoo [?\]: ^^
Zitrone [1k\]: j1
Wagaboo [11k\]: §,5
Wagaboo [11k\]: 6,5
uju [7k\]: komi 6.5
hirakawade [2d?\]: G5
vandrei [11k\]: j1
vandrei [11k\]: ko
N4KED [1d\]: this is nothing
endure [4d\]: a5
Higanbana [?\]: is white hiding his number of captures? why does he have them there like that?
vandrei [11k\]: for game
gabigo [4k?\]: w won :(
Kinoo [?\]: g5 ?
thekar [7k\]: g5 is gote
]
;B[ao]C[ripeAces [6k?\]: w seemed miles ahead about 80 moves ago, was this my poor counting, or did w play a poor yose?
NschoTschi [-\]: w won indees
]
;W[an]C[Nelsson [3k\]: So, guesses from b+0,5 to w+23,5
Larrave [1d\]: loveparade in tampere?
]
;B[ap]C[stf7 [1k\]: g5 is not gote lolo
Larrave [1d\]: O.o
]
;W[go]C[jjermann [4d?\]: g5
]
;B[gp]C[thekar [7k\]: ohh ^^
stf7 [1k\]: c
vandrei [11k\]: still w +0.5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bigfatcat [1d?\]: uh
WorldCop [2k\]: j1
Hellhuman [1d\]: o12
mur [1k\]: w+1.5 now
Hellhuman [1d\]: 10*
zizu [-\]: wel w+1,5
vandrei [11k\]: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Bulbasaur [5k\]: sirens
Lukan [4d\]: :(
Brown [1d\]: B d15
Kinoo [?\]: over :p
vannab [3k\]: police in building now
jnalanko [3k\]: taking the average we can conclude that w+11.75
KAMEHb [1d\]: w win!
DudeG [1k\]: b+miscount
bigfatcat [1d?\]: o10
x0000 [4k?\]: o10
N4KED [1d\]: oh s11
ChoChicken [1k\]: c'mon roln!!!
NschoTschi [-\]: j1 
shaula [1k\]: o10 not a point
]
;W[is]C[Orandajinn [2d?\]: w+ schwiftyfive
wolokom [5k\]: w 0.5 or -1
Zitrone [1k\]: w+0.5
starshine [5d\]: .5 game w iin ko
rinpa [1d\]: i count b+9.5
jim [6d\]: D15
mur [1k\]: ah, snap! SE is wrong: he forgot the P9 stone
bigfatcat [1d?\]: o10 ??
Eilinen [-\]: f15 ?
N4KED [1d\]: s11!
jjermann [4d?\]: d15
btxltbt: b win 0.5 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wagaboo [11k\]: SE say b+2,5
mictromb [1k\]: 1,5
hirakawade [2d?\]: O10 = dame
JachUGAN [11k\]: O10 = b win
zakatan [6k\]: what's in d15?
bigfatcat [1d?\]: right
dmf [15k?\]: s11?
starshine [5d\]: o10 dame
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: Илья, жми!
oilspil [3k\]: w+0.5
dmf [15k?\]: oh wait
dmf [15k?\]: no
Brown [1d\]: d15
bERt0r [10k\]: lol se counts p9 alive
Gaarg [1d\]: I never thought it would be this close
Tristero [2d\]: d15 is a capture
zizu [-\]:  now white wins by 0,5 if he lose ko
WorldCop [2k\]: o10 not dame
N4KED [1d\]: o11 dame too
HKitty [6k?\]: d15
vandrei [11k\]: o10
svrcd [?\]: вроде бы уже дожал)
Worthless [-\]: d15 one last ko?
]
;B[de]C[Kinoo [?\]: :/
WorldCop [2k\]: oh it's dame
Pinchilei [3d?\]: o11 was so big
vandrei [11k\]: oh yes
wolokom [5k\]: how much comi?
Larrave [1d\]: o11 very big
vandrei [11k\]: 1 point for black
Wagaboo [11k\]: §,5
Pinchilei [3d?\]: 2-3 points
zizu [-\]: 6,5
Hellhuman [1d\]: f15, hahahaha
Wagaboo [11k\]: 6,5
Hellhuman [1d\]: i would laugh
NschoTschi [-\]: b+
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: так им румынским профи :)
PtitLudo [3d\]: b a little ahead
vandrei [11k\]: best move here
dfdfd: 6+ 1/2
Zitrone [1k\]: j1 was winning point for white?
Isobeutel [4k\]: they are playing for six hours now
Nelsson [3k\]: connect!
vandrei [11k\]: i like this
Weishenme [4d\]: M8
humility [4d\]: o11 actually not so big
vandrei [11k\]: no conect
Kinoo [?\]: O11 yes
erna [7k\]: B +2,5 p in my counting .....
cosa [3d\]: мочить их)))
Dagobert [3d\]: does this ko decide everything now?
ZT1LB [3d\]: lol
humility [4d\]: since b would have to take anyways
mictromb [1k\]: w wins the ko
Florian [1d\]: d5
zakatan [6k\]: there are 2 kos
NschoTschi [-\]: almost a 4 corner game
cosa [3d\]: мочить их
SqueezeIt [2d\]: O10
dmf [15k?\]: white connect lol
WorldCop [2k\]: d5 ko miai anyway
elohimmeth [2d\]: Q9 is not an eye. so black lost 1 pts and w win
dfdfd: but theres another ko
]
;W[nj]
;B[oj]C[uhoh [1k\]: 2kos
zakatan [6k\]: one for each
nasnad [2d\]: w just wins
Wagaboo [11k\]: ^^
]
;W[ll]C[x0000 [4k?\]: b+2,5?
starshine [5d\]: actually b + 0.5
aguilar1 [6d\]: O10 is worth 2 points
humility [4d\]: oh 
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;B[nl]
;W[pk]C[dfdfd: nice
WorldCop [2k\]: oh i forgot this
WorldCop [2k\]: nice
yan1015 [7k\]: o
stf7 [1k\]: wowo
jnalanko [3k\]: cool
dfdfd: se didn't
NschoTschi [-\]: w+.5
Wagaboo [11k\]: Q9 Oo
starshine [5d\]: oh this?
Worthless [-\]: Ah
elohimmeth [2d\]: w win
Worthless [-\]: Nice
Luna86 [9k\]: nice throwin
st21 [-\]: d5
fairgo1 [2d\]: Woot!
Kinoo [?\]: Oo
Ula [1d\]: cool white
starshine [5d\]: w + .5 then :)
ChoChicken [1k\]: nice w !
Kinoo [?\]: omg
zizu [-\]: go cataliiiin
N4KED [1d\]: but s11 should have been first
Larrave [1d\]: thats what you should see when playing o11:)
Orandajinn [2d?\]: helemaal locoo
Pinchilei [3d?\]: that's why o11 big...
Request [1k\]: cool
wolokom [5k\]: what that?
Worthless [-\]: That's 2 points?
thekar [7k\]: this doesnt work?
Kyoji [4k\]: w+
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;B[ok]C[Kryo [10k\]: just s11?
vandrei [11k\]: Nooooooooooo
jjermann [4d?\]: yes it does
ChoChicken [1k\]: yes it does
vandrei [11k\]: f15
zakatan [6k\]: s11?
vandrei [11k\]: and was b+0.5
Worthless [-\]: Black has to play at s11 too now...
zizu [-\]: it works
vandrei [11k\]: dumb black
st21 [-\]: g15
]
;W[ge]C[vandrei [11k\]: loooooooool
bigfatcat [1d?\]: this is where o10 does not make any difference and o11 does....
vandrei [11k\]: ko
vandrei [11k\]: for gqame
]
;B[do]
;W[fe]C[hirakawade [2d?\]: Yes
vandrei [11k\]: ko for game
N4KED [1d\]: too late but still b needs anther move
vandrei [11k\]: ko for game
st21 [-\]: no ko
dfdfd: no ko
nasnad [2d\]: no
yan1015 [7k\]: wowo
nasnad [2d\]: w won
Emperial [2d\]: lolololollo
Kyoji [4k\]: 2ko = 0ko
jjermann [4d?\]: w win, no ko
st21 [-\]: give stream
HKitty [6k?\]: b lost
st21 [-\]: pls
st21 [-\]: fast
Hellhuman [1d\]: w92.5 b 95
zizu [-\]: ww
Wagaboo [11k\]: wow they play ffas
]
;B[eo]C[Kinoo [?\]: B win :/
]
;W[sq]C[Wagaboo [11k\]: fast
PtitLudo [3d\]: w win niw
]
;B[ri]C[NschoTschi [-\]: Ilya v´s KNAG tomorrow
PtitLudo [3d\]: now*
starshine [5d\]: actually w + 1.5
NschoTschi [-\]: *Kang
mictromb [1k\]: 3,5
dfdfd: ovah
WorldCop [2k\]: well deserved :)
Brown [1d\]: w
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;W[lj]
;B[rh]
;W[nh]
;B[ne]C[st21 [-\]: 101 vs 103
Hellhuman [1d\]: oh
]
;W[oe]C[N4KED [1d\]: ponuki pwer
]
;B[pe]C[st21 [-\]: =(
]
;W[om]C[Ula [1d\]: awesome
]
;B[or]C[KAMEHb [1d\]: w +2/5
]
;W[ss]C[Larrave [1d\]: 60 seconds
]
;B[hs]C[Larrave [1d\]: remix
Larrave [1d\]: !
gabigo [4k?\]: w won :((
Larrave [1d\]: ^^
raimox [6k\]: w+2,5
yan1015 [7k\]: wow
freemind [1d\]: like 200 points in ponnuki in the center
Eilinen [-\]: Long game
Kickchon [?\]: what a match
Pylon [3d?\]: impressive game
Wagaboo [11k\]: b+2,5
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: hehe
NschoTschi [-\]: 6h game
PtitLudo [3d\]: w+2,5
bigfatcat [1d?\]: really japanese rules ?
x0000 [4k?\]: w win
misjoe [1k\]: nice game
joejoe [5k\]: fantastic
colorcoded [4k\]: stupid military deplyment, could not be there live :/
misjoe [1k\]: yes, japanese rules
WorldCop [2k\]: this must mean ilya vs kang tomorrow?
Emperial [2d\]: w+2.5
Gaarg [1d\]: is that ondrei over there on right?
HAHAHAHAHA [3k\]: leve henk
thekar [7k\]: 6 hours!?!?!?!?!
Larrave [1d\]: game is over no more shkingXD
Pylon [3d?\]: thx eurogotv2!
Iciac [5k\]: Nearly 700 observers.
dfdfd: thanks euroman
misjoe [1k\]: thank you, eurogotv !
Dexihno [6k\]: gaarg: yes
vandrei [11k\]: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
o3epo [1k\]: who won?
dfdfd: w
dmf [15k?\]: w
vandrei [11k\]: w
Summers: well done Eurotv
thekar [7k\]: official score?
starry419 [9k\]: wad time is the game between ilya and kang?
leminh [3k\]: w+2.5
Wagaboo [11k\]: black
vandrei [11k\]: mahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
avio [2d\]: w + 2,5
Orandajinn [2d?\]: BUK LAU
Wagaboo [11k\]: no?
stf7 [1k\]: ilia holds prisonres as surprise :D
vandrei [11k\]: i hate this
Hellhuman [1d\]: w + 2.5
rvrey [6k\]: w + 2?5
o3epo [1k\]: Илья поздравляю!
NschoTschi [-\]: many prisonors
genki [-\]: ilja defending the captured stones
Emperial [2d\]: w+2.5
vannab [3k\]: o11 winning move!
miksas [2d?\]: gg
Larrave [1d\]: ilya forgot the stones:D
Kinoo [?\]: yes
Kinoo [?\]: ^^
neodius [5k?\]: УрА!!!
Nikolaj [6k\]: buk lau
o3epo [1k\]: первая победа над европейским профи
yan1015 [7k\]: wow
st21 [-\]: ah
st21 [-\]: they counting
MizukiChan [8k?\]: Илья молодец!
cosa [3d\]: УРА!!!!
kuruhuru9 [6k\]: Ура!
cirno [-\]: W+⑨
HAHAHAHAHA [3k\]: buk lau?
mur [1k\]: УРААА!
BFF [10k\]: ROSSIYA GO GO !!!!! 
Gaarg [1d\]: Erogotv, no filling in now? :)
N4KED [1d\]: I think with s11 whte could maybe win
neodius [5k?\]: В следующем туре тперь с Кангом играть наверно
vandrei [11k\]: who win
dfdfd: when's the next game?
SanekFree [7k\]: Молодец, Илья!!
WorldCop [2k\]: o11 winning move :)
Bulbasaur [5k\]: W win
Wagaboo [11k\]: who who ^^
vandrei [11k\]: this was Japanesse or Chinese rules
dfdfd: q9 winning move
st21 [-\]: haha
misjoe [1k\]: japanese, vandrei
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: W+2.5
vandrei [11k\]: ok
Wagaboo [11k\]: T___T
nbv [3k\]: gg
hatego [3k\]: Grats, Ilya!
st21 [-\]: Ilya shocked
N4KED [1d\]: thumbs up
hatego [3k\]: Well played!
jenj [6k\]: yes!!
st21 [-\]: look at him face
Hellhuman [1d\]: se knew that 10 moves ago :3
Worthless [-\]: Thanks, EuroGo
misjoe [1k\]: very nice :)
misjoe [1k\]: cu all tomorrow !
N4KED [1d\]: Thank you Harry!
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