(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[NZ]SZ[19]KM[8.00]TM[3600]OT[25/600 Canadian]
GN[European Youth Go Championship 2013 under 20 board 1 round 3]PW[Pavol Lisy]PB[Lukas Podpera]WR[6d]BR[6d]DT[2013-03-09]PC[Budapest, Hungary]C[martin97 [1k\]: will it be podpera against lisy?
Atripla [4d?\]: probably lisy yes, as won against jabarin
xDragon [?\]: the board does have a czech fla gon it
martin97 [1k\]: ^^
martin97 [1k\]: yeah:D
gooooo [-\]: when do they start?
gooooo [-\]: I feel sorry for the players that they have to use those crappy stones and deathtrap stone keepers
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcasts of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[dc]
;W[pp]
;B[pd]C[martin97 [1k\]: pls tell the time sometimes
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;W[dp]
;B[ce]
;W[nc]
;B[qf]C[martin97 [1k\]: like all 30min and the overtime periods
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;W[pb]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: good morning everybody
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;B[qn]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sure, i will tell the time
gooooo [-\]: eurogotv1, morning and thanks for the broadcast :)
martin97 [1k\]: thanks
martin97 [1k\]: and good morning
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;W[qc]
;B[nq]
;W[np]
;B[mp]
;W[no]
;B[oq]
;W[pq]
;B[pm]
;W[qo]
;B[ro]
;W[pn]
;B[rn]
;W[rp]
;B[rq]
;W[kp]C[kentia [1d\]: n5
martin97 [1k\]: or r3
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the first two rounds results are on the site, check it for more information :) http://eygc2013.com/?page_id=726
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;B[mo]
;W[mn]C[martin97 [1k\]: thx
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;B[lq]C[martin97 [1k\]: why not cut o6?
kentia [1d\]: because n3?
martin97 [1k\]: how is it working???
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;W[kq]C[rafan [6k?\]: can black settle sente to get a move on left?
martin3141 [-\]: if black cut, I think black might be difficult after white p7
martin97 [1k\]: p7 looks really great 
selahaddin [9k\]: how old are they? how youth?
Liso66 [?\]: 18
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;B[nn]C[Hanne [?\]: It is very sad that back button does not work in D games.
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;W[pr]C[xDragon [?\]: just clone the game
rafan [6k?\]: yea you can see offline too
Minjhou [8k\]: but you have to close it and re-open to get new moves
martin97 [1k\]: i think p7 after cutis working
]
;B[on]C[Ukasuhs [4d\]: also so far in this game theres really just one order that makes sense
Chilltime [3d\]: cant b now?
Chilltime [3d\]: o6
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;W[po]C[Chilltime [3d\]: oh yeah he can :P
Chilltime [3d\]: now t5 sente works for white though
Minjhou [8k\]: T4?
Chilltime [3d\]: t5
Chilltime [3d\]: sry :P
Minjhou [8k\]: T4 for B, I mean
Thoravatar [3d\]: black is falling apart
NidanKolen [1k\]: T4-M5, I think
ONIONKING [3d\]: looks like lukas in trouble already
ONIONKING [3d\]: cheater toooooo pro
Thoravatar [3d\]: BM5
martin97 [1k\]: i tried p8 is not workingfor b byone lib
kentia [1d\]: so s3 was a mistake?
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;B[op]
;W[oo]C[Thoravatar [3d\]: time suji? :P
slendy [6d\]: maybe too early
martin3141 [-\]: huh?!
ONIONKING [3d\]: you cant cut bamboo
martin3141 [-\]: this takes away the p5-liberty ... terrible
Ukasuhs [4d\]: unless ur a panda
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live broadcast of this game on http://www.eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
slendy [6d\]: milyen szorgalmas valaki:)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: csitt :)
Koukkaaja [3d\]: p4 is something that only I could play
NidanKolen [1k\]: can some mid-high dan explain p4?
kentia [1d\]: what now? t4 but i don't think it works
martin97 [1k\]: maybe ko
martin3141 [-\]: I surely couldn't bring me to play p4 :D
martin97 [1k\]: p8 m5 l2 k2 n2 l1 m1 
ONIONKING [3d\]: p4 is really hard to understand...
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;B[qr]
;W[qm]C[Ukasuhs [4d\]: well we know the game wont last 10 more minutes
martin97 [1k\]: r2 is nice
slendy [6d\]: I have the feeling that this game will end in this corner
keiler [?\]: does black has a scrifice strategy?
Architect [3k\]: shuusaku alreay warned us
Thoravatar [3d\]: actually it seems to me that there is now an escape to a equal position for both
blablurb: sacrifice yes, strategy no
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;B[om]C[Gildartz [8k\]: Hello
NidanKolen [1k\]: w expecting s7 t4 t6 r4 r3 s2 s4  ko?
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;W[rm]
;B[sp]C[ONIONKING [3d\]: b gets ponnuki at n6 from the ko?
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;W[sn]
;B[qp]
;W[qq]C[FreshTooth [2d\]: w ignores anything
ONIONKING [3d\]: hence ponnuki at n6 from ko :p
slendy [6d\]: that ponnuki not enough
ONIONKING [3d\]: agree
ONIONKING [3d\]: but what else can ya do..
FreshTooth [2d\]: b was a little bit too aggresive
martin3141 [-\]: cry
FreshTooth [2d\]: agressive*
slendy [6d\]: s3 was simply too early
ONIONKING [3d\]: cry is a good option :p
slendy [6d\]: should just l3
murrmurr [?\]: well, still playable if black gets n6 in ko threat
murrmurr [?\]: not good, but playable
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;B[rp]
;W[rr]C[martin3141 [-\]: its not total destruction, but I'd call it a major setback for black
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b dreaming about r8 etc?
fakeyou [2d\]: s1 ko
xDragon [?\]: so where did b mess up?
NidanKolen [1k\]: s1 ko is the same, w takes first
martin97 [1k\]: p2
Architect [3k\]: i think if black wanted to ko, he should just p2
martin97 [1k\]: now i understand p4
murrmurr [?\]: well, it's better ko, white wont capture r6 
Thoravatar [3d\]: jeah
Ukasuhs [4d\]: but can w answer a ko threat?
FreshTooth [2d\]: pavol won another game :P
Thoravatar [3d\]: and you can use R8 etc as ko threats
SteveK [2k\]: q1 was better than p2 right ?
Thoravatar [3d\]: but black still not settled :(
martin97 [1k\]: incrediblycomplicate
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b has the m6 ko threat
Ootakamoku [2d\]: which is ok size
Ootakamoku [2d\]: and settles the outside
martin3141 [-\]: but on the whole board, black will be behind after that exchange
Ootakamoku [2d\]: sure
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;B[rs]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: nobi
Ootakamoku [2d\]: provides an extra ko threat for w
Ootakamoku [2d\]: at p2
TuLy [8k\]: lets go Pavol!!!! 
x0000 [-\]: r1 better
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;W[sr]C[martin97 [1k\]: euro do yousee board 2?
x0000 [-\]: =(
martin97 [1k\]: or know who is there?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: the p2 ko threat is usually expensive, but its not like w is planning on every losing this ko
Ootakamoku [2d\]: ever*
Maverik [2k\]: game over ?
FreshTooth [2d\]: yes
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;B[ql]C[martin97 [1k\]: b need r8 and m6
slendy [6d\]: take?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: martin97: Ali Jabarin is playing with Antoine Branchard
martin97 [1k\]: ty
Ootakamoku [2d\]: why take, b still owes move at m6?
Thoravatar [3d\]: no, it is ok, just white is ahead
Ootakamoku [2d\]: no need to compromise
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;W[rl]C[FreshTooth [2d\]: what's his rank
FreshTooth [2d\]: antoine
Thoravatar [3d\]: not even so much
martin97 [1k\]: 6d vs 2d
FreshTooth [2d\]: ah
gooooo [-\]: ouch, poor 2d :)
Ukasuhs [4d\]: i guess s9
martin97 [1k\]: i think he is strong 2d
NicoChiaro [5k\]: I think egf 3 dan
Yanwangye [-\]: why not q1 ko?
pok [1k\]: i hope he is
Ootakamoku [2d\]: setting up ko threats
Thoravatar [3d\]: later
martin97 [1k\]: no egf 2d
martin97 [1k\]: this is egf tournament
martin97 [1k\]: 2171
Ootakamoku [2d\]: 2171 is pretty good for 2dan, unless he is old.
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;B[rk]C[Maverik [2k\]: b could try ko at q1 if it\\s enough good threats
Ukasuhs [4d\]: trade s7 for n4 i guess
martin97 [1k\]: this is u 20 :)
Ukasuhs [4d\]: b gets sente
Ootakamoku [2d\]: didnt b setup the wrong ko if he planned on using these?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: since now take will give w instant life
FreshTooth [2d\]: I'm 2167 ;)
Thoravatar [3d\]: r1?
martin97 [1k\]: :)
slendy [6d\]: like I said,just take
Ukasuhs [4d\]: i think r9 is better
FreshTooth [2d\]: b in serious trouble
Ukasuhs [4d\]: same trade, just get r9 and q8 in sente
martin3141 [-\]: make black set up the ko
keiler [?\]: w can capture p7 
martin3141 [-\]: after that, taking it is more valuable usually
SteveK [2k\]: why didnt b start ko already ?
keiler [?\]: ladder
Ootakamoku [2d\]: hmm, Im at 2013 gor, plan is to get 1 more per year.
Thoravatar [3d\]: well at least it is sente for black :)
Ukasuhs [4d\]: b needs to make a big ko threat
Ukasuhs [4d\]: he couldnt use s9 as a ko threat either, cause w would have the liberty to play t3
daXvinci [1k\]: there is none i guess
martin97 [1k\]: oota how old?
FreshTooth [2d\]: I'm 14 btw
Ootakamoku [2d\]: 33
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;W[qk]C[Thoravatar [3d\]: why is white making the ko-threat bigger?
murrmurr [?\]: i'm 13 what is this
daXvinci [1k\]: well or does b have one
daXvinci [1k\]: if he plays the ko now
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;B[ps]
;W[qs]C[Thoravatar [3d\]: now start the ko right
TuLy [8k\]: nice freshTooth ... 2d in 14 ... envy :/
daXvinci [1k\]: is q8 a thread
Ukasuhs [4d\]: thoravatar, its not getting any bigger. s7 dead anyway
martin97 [1k\]: where from?
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;B[sl]C[FreshTooth [2d\]: I'm from Israel
martin3141 [-\]: q8 is not a threat, white will t3
martin97 [1k\]: ok
martin97 [1k\]: cool
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;W[os]C[FreshTooth [2d\]: but I don't think it's considered good
pok [1k\]: if w win ko, next w m6 a threat ?
]
;B[sm]
;W[ln]C[martin97 [1k\]: why not playing here?
FreshTooth [2d\]: cuz in asia some kids are turning pro in the age of 11
Thoravatar [3d\]: it is bigger, because there is the move at Q9 now, 
martin97 [1k\]: i consider my 1d with 15 good
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;B[kr]C[martin97 [1k\]: so you need to see
FreshTooth [2d\]: r u 1d EGF?
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;W[jr]C[martin3141 [-\]: I think this sequence was good for white
martin97 [1k\]: no
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b k3 is the plan I Guess
Ootakamoku [2d\]: but it looks like it fails
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;B[mr]C[martin97 [1k\]: cuz the 1k in germany on tournament are 4k egf
martin97 [1k\]: and i dont get points
Ootakamoku [2d\]: m4 
BinX [?\]: m1 best way ? threatens m2
Ootakamoku [2d\]: or o2 maybe..
edo2 [4k\]: w can just block k3 right ?
daXvinci [1k\]: m4 doesnt fix the shape
daXvinci [1k\]: m5
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;W[lp]C[daXvinci [1k\]: hm
mihi [6d\]: if black dies it's over 
NicoChiaro [5k\]: martin, du bist echt egf 4 kyu?
pok [1k\]: kill > shape it seems
niceguest: b looks like he dies
Ootakamoku [2d\]: k3 and pray
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;B[ir]C[DaemeonX [8k?\]: j2 
mihi [6d\]: K3 
FreshTooth [2d\]: k3 
]
;W[js]C[edo2 [4k\]: wasnt k5 better for w than m4 ?
Thoravatar [3d\]: i would say if he lives the game is over
FreshTooth [2d\]: or this
Thoravatar [3d\]: hmm
TheClown [2d\]: i cant see life
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: black has 25, white has 44 minutes left
byrain [2d\]: b alive tho
edo2 [4k\]: w had miai points
niceguest: k3 j3 l1 k4 o1 m1 p2 
FreshTooth [2d\]: c6 
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;B[iq]
;W[jq]
;B[fq]
;W[eq]
;B[fp]
;W[dn]C[pok [1k\]: isn't it game over ?
FreshTooth [2d\]: no
FreshTooth [2d\]: about even
martin3141 [-\]: I think white is in a better position
HW9x9 [1k\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
byrain [2d\]: but this by b is prob better than liveing with 4 pts with w getting a ponuki and super thick wall + sente
pok [1k\]: mmh b must show the skill now
Thoravatar [3d\]: a black i would have prefered to leave the aji and use my sente for a tenuki (e.g. D10)
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;B[me]C[slendy [6d\]: b need to overplay now
Ootakamoku [2d\]: n15 is ok?
Thoravatar [3d\]: instead of making a weak group where white is strong
Ootakamoku [2d\]: this dont look.. good
Ootakamoku [2d\]: seems impractical to develop the right side any deeper
mihi [6d\]: if white stays calm and takes points there is no chance for a comeback
byrain [2d\]: right side can't be that big
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;W[ld]C[mihi [6d\]: moves like M16 or E2...many points
Ootakamoku [2d\]: now k17 to really rush it
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;B[jd]
;W[le]C[mihi [6d\]: even F6...black can't easily live there 
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;B[lf]
;W[kf]
;B[mf]C[martin97 [1k\]: lukas needs magic  now
byrain [2d\]: l13?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b mightaswell c3 since he is behind :)
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;W[je]
;B[hd]C[byrain [2d\]: d18
byrain [2d\]: or f17
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;W[fn]
;B[io]C[TuLy [8k\]: F6, here it comes :)
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;W[ci]C[byrain [2d\]: hmm
xDragon [?\]: w always looks like hes going to throw up
byrain [2d\]: wasn't c11 before f6 better?
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;B[cq]C[BinX [?\]: isn't f6 more sente than c11 ?
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;W[er]
;B[co]
;W[do]
;B[cn]
;W[cp]
;B[bp]C[martin3141 [-\]: so now black is all-in
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;W[bq]C[byrain [2d\]: but after c11 b may not want to jump at f6 anyway
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;B[br]C[BinX [?\]: but after c6 b may not want to take c11 anyway :)
]
;W[im]C[byrain [2d\]: why
Sheriffi [-\]: why would you not want to take f6 in sente?
BinX [?\]: I think c11 is not threatening, just taking point so you should take f6 first
byrain [2d\]: but as it stands b will prob die
Ootakamoku [2d\]: second chance for b to prove his L&D skills
martin97 [1k\]: if he lives he could win
Minjhou [8k\]: what's L&D?
pok [1k\]: life & death
BinX [?\]: more like he can't allow that group to die
melmak: this is just dead
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b h7 fails?
moyango [7k\]: love&drugs
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;B[hm]C[byrain [2d\]: not sure about in this specific local situation but i would say c11 before f6 could be a good idea
Ootakamoku [2d\]: why am I thinking so much like the losing player :(
byrain [2d\]: that way if b jumps at f6 w can naturally secure territory
HW9x9 [1k\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
NicoChiaro [5k\]: maybe L5 aji helps
Sheriffi [-\]: but this way w gets profit by threatening
TuLy [8k\]: Ootakamoku ... :))) hehe
byrain [2d\]: if b doesn't respond either w can attack differently or play f6 and then b j5 then w e11 or something
Sheriffi [-\]: or even killing
Prometey [6k\]: l4 group in danger too
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;W[hn]
;B[in]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: l4 group quite fine, the inside b group has very few liberties
]
;W[ho]C[martin3141 [-\]: i fail to see how l4 is in danger
BinX [?\]: oota : you are used to these moments where you can't go wrong... that's all :)
Ootakamoku [2d\]: k7 
niceguest: w seems way ahead
NicoChiaro [5k\]: L4 isn't in danger because black can't cut but at least he can force M5
Ootakamoku [2d\]: k7 j8 j4 k6 l6 k5 l5 k4 m5 for some desperation
BinX [?\]: k7 j4 may be acceptable for w
murrmurr [?\]: nothing at m5
Ootakamoku [2d\]: I think its quite a nice outcome for b to get ponnuki at j7
Ootakamoku [2d\]: highly doubt w will agree to that
BinX [?\]: well I wouldn't agree but, is it that good ?
martin3141 [-\]: k7 j8 j4 l7 ?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: k7 j8 j4 l7 l5 
Ootakamoku [2d\]: oh, nvm
Ootakamoku [2d\]: doesnt work
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;B[jm]
;W[il]
;B[kn]
;W[ip]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: b shape breaks
byrain [2d\]: b looks pritty hopeless
FreshTooth [2d\]: I don't like b
martin3141 [-\]: but white must be cautious
byrain [2d\]: wouldn't be too surprising to see resign now
byrain [2d\]: tho i don't really expect it this soon
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b k8 
FreshTooth [2d\]: b left too much holes, can't help it
Ootakamoku [2d\]: oh, ladder fails, hits c11 :(
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;B[lm]
;W[lo]
;B[hp]
;W[jp]
;B[mm]
;W[jl]
;B[km]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: g7 
byrain [2d\]: d7?
FreshTooth [2d\]: c7 
]
;W[cm]C[FreshTooth [2d\]: muaahaha
byrain [2d\]: ya i meant c7 obviously
]
;B[mq]C[HW9x9 [1k\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
]
;W[ms]
;B[gm]
;W[gn]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: black has 10 minutes left
tobinaruu: who is winning?
]
;B[dj]
;W[di]
;B[fj]C[niceguest: w is winning
sendylatte [3k\]: w seems ahead
]
;W[gl]C[niceguest: big b moyo on the right could be dangerous?
byrain [2d\]: no
byrain [2d\]: nooooo
byrain [2d\]: well possibly
]
;B[cj]C[gogonuts [5d\]: seems to me that b is used to bullying his opponents
Timk [1d\]: why not f8 ?
keiler [?\]: w is leading since move 29
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;W[ej]C[martin3141 [-\]: hm seems black can still play f7 later
gogonuts [5d\]: hard to tell a yound 6d not to bully :-)
gogonuts [5d\]: but its not working against this w
martin97 [1k\]: ^you mean overplay or what?
byrain [2d\]: but after b died at n2 b may felt the need to overplay
byrain [2d\]: may not be his natural tendency
gogonuts [5d\]: always taking opponents by storm
gogonuts [5d\]: as if in a handi game
gogonuts [5d\]: ok, thats true
]
;B[ei]
;W[ek]
;B[bi]
;W[bh]C[gogonuts [5d\]: maybe he only failed in one spot
]
;B[bk]C[Timk [1d\]: b10 and c14 for sure
martin3141 [-\]: I think black might be searching for a place to resign right now
]
;W[eh]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: well, he found himself some kind of fight here
niceguest: maybe m3 should be at m5 ?
FreshTooth [2d\]: b dies..
FreshTooth [2d\]: or ko
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b can always live with c12 if he wants
]
;B[fi]
;W[ch]C[FreshTooth [2d\]: not anymore
Timk [1d\]: cheap life, no ?
]
;B[fl]
;W[el]C[byrain [2d\]: i would pay money to watch leesedol play b from this point on
FreshTooth [2d\]: w+res
FreshTooth [2d\]: I say
]
;B[dg]C[byrain [2d\]: b maybe able to get a huge wall
Ootakamoku [2d\]: huge wall to do what with?
byrain [2d\]: and w will play l12
]
;W[dh]C[tinca [-\]: there are a lot of aji in the situation, not easy
]
;B[bm]
;W[fh]
;B[hi]
;W[gh]C[gogonuts [5d\]: g8 wasnt a good safety move
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b can pull out h8 now?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: or still in a ladder?
Muttley [2k\]: who is b on kgs?
Ukasuhs [4d\]: h8 h9\\
slendy [6d\]: lukan
gogonuts [5d\]: allowing b c10 made the position tricky
Muttley [2k\]: thank you, slendy :)
Ootakamoku [2d\]: ah, ok, so b h10 threattens to pull it out
Ootakamoku [2d\]: or b could sac and play h9 here
Ootakamoku [2d\]: hoping to get h12
HW9x9 [1k\]: h9
FreshTooth [2d\]: a11
]
;B[hj]C[acuteangle: I c ranks but not ages 4 players
niceguest: a11 c8 ?
FreshTooth [2d\]: a11
Pingu007 [3d\]: under 20 on this board
]
;W[bo]C[Muttley [2k\]: it tells you the age category in the game info at the top panel
]
;B[bn]
;W[ap]
;B[cl]C[byrain [2d\]: b is like 8
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b j13 instead of c8 would have been hopeless?
acuteangle: under 20 is quite broad
Ukasuhs [4d\]: theres a seperate under 12 division so probably no one under 12 in the under 20 division
FreshTooth [2d\]: ah lol
FreshTooth [2d\]: had lags
Muttley [2k\]: also under 16
byrain [2d\]: yes hopeless w too many libs
Kolo [8k?\]: 12/16/20 afaik
FreshTooth [2d\]: a11 was meant to play earlier
FreshTooth [2d\]: XD
Kolo [8k?\]: so he is 17-19
]
;W[hk]C[xDragon [?\]: 16-19
Ukasuhs [4d\]: 16-19
Kolo [8k?\]: aaa, right ^^"
xDragon [?\]: but both happen to be 18 i think
Ootakamoku [2d\]: j13 to keep dream alive
]
;B[hh]
;W[hg]C[byrain [2d\]: hopefully this dies
byrain [2d\]: to make for more exciting game
acuteangle: OK. tx
Ootakamoku [2d\]: have to crosscut?
Muttley [2k\]: this looks alive to me already
byrain [2d\]: but even if there is an under 16 category
Architect [3k\]: if f12 lives, game over
byrain [2d\]: canat really assume these players are 16 or more
Ootakamoku [2d\]: if f12 dies also game over
Architect [3k\]: lol
byrain [2d\]: would be nice to have an age too next to players name
xDragon [?\]: you can assume that
xDragon [?\]: because hwy would they play the higher category
byrain [2d\]: what if higher category has better prizes
byrain [2d\]: or better competition
]
;B[ig]
;W[hf]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: black entered into the first overtime period
byrain [2d\]: unless you are prohibited by the rules
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;B[if]
;W[ie]C[xDragon [?\]: strongest player in u16 is 4d, strongest in u12 is 1d
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: white has 32 minutes left
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Ukasuhs [4d\]: u12 has 2 6d i thought
martin97 [1k\]: both 15k
martin97 [1k\]: so fake
Architect [3k\]: g13?
gogonuts [5d\]: a lagging video makes you feel really precient :-)
pok [1k\]: is there any website for this tournament ?
byrain [2d\]: b has to cut if he wants to continue
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b g9 
Ukasuhs [4d\]: in eurogotv1 info
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: http://eygc2013.com
gogonuts [5d\]: pok: the lionk above
Ukasuhs [4d\]: has a few links
moyango [7k\]: cut cut cut !!! :)
Ootakamoku [2d\]: oh, urm.. urm..
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;B[gg]C[pok [1k\]: thx
sendylatte [3k\]: cut is a trap....
He [2k\]: It's a tarp!
Architect [3k\]: no, it is just the last hope
Koukkaaja [3d\]: cut the trap
gogonuts [5d\]: w hiding his face now :-)
byrain [2d\]: but if b k12 and w connects there is nothing b can do
byrain [2d\]: literally
byrain [2d\]: to win
tinca [-\]: h15 is good enough
NiceGoAuth [-\]: a lagging video would be nice, my one has only sound:)
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;W[gf]C[gogonuts [5d\]: lol
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;B[fg]
;W[df]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: e14 works
Architect [3k\]: over
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;B[ff]
;W[fe]
;B[ge]
;W[he]
;B[ee]
;W[gd]C[FreshTooth [2d\]: nice exchange
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;B[ef]C[tinca [-\]: even better than h15
Ootakamoku [2d\]: nice recovery by w
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;W[ji]C[Architect [3k\]: j12
gogonuts [5d\]: yupp, made b work harder
FreshTooth [2d\]: though w still leading
Ootakamoku [2d\]: m11 
tinca [-\]: still? Even more..
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;B[ih]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: oh, cant afford
byrain [2d\]: not sure if b gained from that exchange
FreshTooth [2d\]: no
Ootakamoku [2d\]: s15?
FreshTooth [2d\]: the ex was obviously better for b
FreshTooth [2d\]: but w cud afford it
FreshTooth [2d\]: cuz he is leading pretty big
sendylatte [3k\]: now w can walk around b's rightside moyo
byrain [2d\]: wgained top and probably gets to see b pretty hard
Ootakamoku [2d\]: naa, right side moyo is mostly intact
byrain [2d\]: seak
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;W[li]C[byrain [2d\]: seak
Ootakamoku [2d\]: doubt w can do much better than s15 and m11 when it comes to reduction
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;B[mi]
;W[mj]
;B[nj]C[HonFu [1d\]: and doesnt have to either, right?
gogonuts [5d\]: i dont like m11
gogonuts [5d\]: why not k12 instead?
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;W[mh]
;B[ni]C[byrain [2d\]: ya
byrain [2d\]: i was thinking k12
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;W[nh]C[tinca [-\]: +1
Pinguschaf [?\]: but probably its enough for white anyway
Ootakamoku [2d\]: because its still there?
byrain [2d\]: after k12 w won't play m11 surely
Ootakamoku [2d\]: l13
Timk [1d\]: w can do k12 in every moment
FreshTooth [2d\]: ouch
FreshTooth [2d\]: o12 hurts
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;B[lh]C[N1k0 [2k\]: resign
gogonuts [5d\]: but after the k12 squeeze w wouldnt continue at m12
Ootakamoku [2d\]: this so does not work for b
FreshTooth [2d\]: m13 l12 l13 k12 n13 
Timk [1d\]: like m13 l12 k12 for example
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;W[lg]C[tinca [-\]: now see k12
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;B[oh]C[Timk [1d\]: yes
Timk [1d\]: :)
tinca [-\]: if B dares to vont
tinca [-\]: cont
gogonuts [5d\]: b smelled the trap
tinca [-\]: he does not
FreshTooth [2d\]: o13 
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;W[og]C[Timk [1d\]: s15 is big
sendylatte [3k\]: stab, stab stab
gooooo [-\]: eurogotv1, will there be another round today?
Architect [3k\]: n13
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;B[ng]
;W[kh]C[gogonuts [5d\]: these guys guys dont know where the reverse gear is :-)
Ukasuhs [4d\]: yes, 2 hours from now
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
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;B[mg]C[gooooo [-\]: eurogotv1, when? (don't want to miss it) :)
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;W[lh]C[FreshTooth [2d\]: Euro go, did Ali win already?
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;B[ph]
;W[of]C[martin3141 [-\]: p14 !!
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;B[nd]C[slendy [6d\]: o15
FreshTooth [2d\]: o15 n16 p16 p17 p15 
martin3141 [-\]: p16 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: starts at 12:00 gmt, but you can find everything in my info :)
FreshTooth [2d\]: good for w
gooooo [-\]: eurogotv1, thanks!
FreshTooth [2d\]: ah
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Ali is still playing
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;W[pe]C[tinca [-\]: o15
moyango [7k\]: o15
FreshTooth [2d\]: what
FreshTooth [2d\]: why not o15
tinca [-\]: sooner or.. later
gooooo [-\]: euro, thats in 2h right?
FreshTooth [2d\]: ah
gogonuts [5d\]: o15 looked better to me
FreshTooth [2d\]: this might be better
acuteangle: whos is this ali of interest?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b p16 
Ootakamoku [2d\]: looks like b gets corner from this?
FreshTooth [2d\]: p16 o15
Ukasuhs [4d\]: p16 n16 o15 r15 ?
FreshTooth [2d\]: no
FreshTooth [2d\]: p16 o15
Ukasuhs [4d\]: o15 n16 doesnt helps w
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: gooooo: yes, we have a lunch break and it starts after
moyango [7k\]: black to resign
tinca [-\]: ya
hajanbus: what kind of lunch my friend?
Ukasuhs [4d\]: not once b connects at p16
Koukkaaja [3d\]: w has to die with k1 to make this even
Ukasuhs [4d\]: but here it seems b has no way out
gogonuts [5d\]: p17 is a fighting chance imo
martin3141 [-\]: this game is son intense! :-)
Ukasuhs [4d\]: p17 p16 p15 o15?
Ukasuhs [4d\]: i guess you can play that ko
FreshTooth [2d\]: p17 n16
Liso66 [?\]: how much time left to white?
FreshTooth [2d\]: no ko
Minjhou [8k\]: hace B any chance to win?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hajanbus: i hope a good one, because im getting hungry :)
Ootakamoku [2d\]: p17 n16 o18 and go for trade
Minjhou [8k\]: (the game)
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;B[oc]C[Liso66 [?\]: whos egtv? :P
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: white has 24 minutes left
Liso66 [?\]: thnx
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;W[md]C[FreshTooth [2d\]: what trade
FreshTooth [2d\]: o18 n17 
FreshTooth [2d\]: b is getting owned
ONIONKING [4d\]: cheater going for the quick win
Ootakamoku [2d\]: is one of them cheater?
TuLy [8k\]: SVK win this :)
ONIONKING [4d\]: w
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: black is in the second overtime period
FreshTooth [2d\]: PAvol
Ootakamoku [2d\]: oh, cool
FreshTooth [2d\]: Pavol*
moyango [7k\]: p16 p15 o15
ONIONKING [4d\]: dont recall b's nick but i think its 6d
FreshTooth [2d\]: Lukas
ONIONKING [4d\]: ah yeah
ONIONKING [4d\]: :p
Muttley [2k\]: Lukan
FreshTooth [2d\]: ah yeah
Muttley [2k\]: slendy said, earlier
FreshTooth [2d\]: this^
FreshTooth [2d\]: yeah yeah
ONIONKING [4d\]: anyway, 6d :)
FreshTooth [2d\]: anyway, got owned ;)
ONIONKING [4d\]: indeed ^_^
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;B[qd]
;W[ne]
;B[ob]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: oh, look at that.. a trade..
Pinguschaf [?\]: hard to call it a trade
ONIONKING [4d\]: but w can still live the corner
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;W[nb]
;B[oa]C[FreshTooth [2d\]: might be a ko
NiceGoAuth [-\]: if w were a bot it was save mode
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;W[qe]
;B[re]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: s15.. what?
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;W[rf]C[ONIONKING [4d\]: looking for res? needs it to win :p
sendylatte [3k\]: suicide
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;B[pf]C[FreshTooth [2d\]: res
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;W[oe]C[FreshTooth [2d\]: come on
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;B[rc]C[FreshTooth [2d\]: it's disrespectful
Ootakamoku [2d\]: and w breaks into the moyo
Ukasuhs [4d\]: you're disrespectful
FreshTooth [2d\]: worse than KGS overplays
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;W[od]C[ONIONKING [4d\]: r9 makes w a ladder :p
ONIONKING [4d\]: good old aji
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;B[pc]
;W[se]
;B[rd]
;W[pg]C[tinca [-\]: squeezing every ounce
martin3141 [-\]: indeed
Ootakamoku [2d\]: want ko
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;B[qh]
;W[qg]C[ONIONKING [4d\]: q17 q13 r13 r12 s13 s12 t14 p11 q11 p10 o9q10 r11 s11  :p
Ootakamoku [2d\]: g18
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;B[gb]C[Muttley [2k\]: or, q17
martin3141 [-\]: c17 
TuLy [8k\]: blood is everywhere o.O
moyango [7k\]: white can start to end-game
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;W[fb]C[moyango [7k\]: simply leads
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;B[fc]
;W[gc]
;B[eb]
;W[hb]
;B[fa]C[gogonuts [5d\]: yeah, the blood is drying in the sun
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;W[rh]
;B[ri]C[Liso66 [?\]: lukan asked numbuer of prisoners
TuLy [8k\]: ^^
Liso66 [?\]: number
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;W[qi]C[Liso66 [?\]: (he is counting)
Minjhou [8k\]: w+30?
Minjhou [8k\]: roght estimation
Minjhou [8k\]: *rought
poipoi [-\]: **rough
Minjhou [8k\]: ty
sendylatte [3k\]: b's moyo vanished.... scary
gogonuts [5d\]: yeah not under 30
manofearth [?\]: stones r expendable. intentions r meaningful even when  exressed thru stones
gogonuts [5d\]: can resign here
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: black resigned
TuLy [8k\]: res?
FreshTooth [2d\]: finally :O
gogonuts [5d\]: thx for the game
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: (Ali won on the second board)
FreshTooth [2d\]: ah
FreshTooth [2d\]: good to know
pok [1k\]: thx euro
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thanks for watching and see you in a few hours!
FreshTooth [2d\]: next match will be Ali vs Lukas?
amakaresu [-\]: w +13 or so?
Liso66 [?\]: jo etvagyat! :) 
Moin9 [1k\]: when is the next round exactly?
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