(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[60]OT[3x30 byo-yomi]
GN[ESGC: Kachanovskyi,7d - Billouet,4d: round5, board1]PW[Artem Kachanovskyi]PB[Simon Billouet]WR[7d]BR[4d]DT[2011-10-16]EV[European Student Go Championship 2011]RO[5]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
;B[dp]
;W[pq]
;B[cd]
;W[pc]
;B[pe]
;W[qe]C[klabauter [2d\]: Is artem already champion before this game?
Javaness [2d\]: probably, not sure where the wall list is
]
;B[qf]
;W[qd]
;B[ec]
;W[pf]C[ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: wallist before last round is here http://ivan.kostka.sweb.cz/Vysledky/MES4.TXT
]
;B[dj]
;W[qn]
;B[fq]
;W[jd]C[ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: Artem is probably already Champion but not for sure 
]
;B[kq]
;W[bo]
;B[co]
;W[bp]
;B[bn]
;W[cn]
;B[cm]C[bluetable [-\]: heh
]
;W[dn]
;B[bm]
;W[dq]
;B[cq]
;W[cp]
;B[dr]
;W[do]
;B[eq]
;W[dm]C[st21 [1d\]: 4d second place =)
indienego: how do i rewind moves to see how the game went?
Okumura [2d\]: not hte best shape for w :)
klabauter [2d\]: ok as I read it, artem is champion. If he loses and Johannes wins then they have same MMS, SOS, but artem has more SOSOS
st21 [1d\]: you need to register, or download kgs client
indienego: oh
]
;B[dl]
;W[el]
;B[ek]C[trewq: option > view offline work too
klabauter [2d\]: you also clone the game
sajmon [2k?\]: or clone the game
pancake [4d\]: hmm..? white makes easy live now?
st21 [1d\]: Artem will win anyway
indienego: b not afraid of c8?
indienego: some tesuji probably
grimmjow1 [2d\]: c8-b8
]
;W[cl]
;B[bl]
;W[dk]
;B[ck]
;W[dl]C[indienego: yes, but what did b gain??
indienego: gained gote
akanwa [5d\]: i like b
]
;B[cj]C[qrqr [2d\]: artem gives thumbs up for cool play ;D
st21 [1d\]: is there streaming?
]
;W[fk]C[hayaku [3d?\]: b already made huge mistake :(
]
;B[ej]C[sedy [7k\]: g16 
st21 [1d\]: g5
]
;W[go]C[indienego: no, w spend another move here
]
;B[hp]C[indienego: so slow
hayaku [3d?\]: well w clearly ahead now
]
;W[ho]
;B[ip]
;W[gi]C[Blaubaer [6d?\]: g11 nice
]
;B[qg]C[indienego: seems like w ahead by 30 now
Ootakamoku [2d\]: g11 is a bit weird shape?
hayaku [3d?\]: g11 show confidence :)
Blaubaer [6d?\]: no w not that much ahead
indienego: b groups solid, but w so much framework
bistrogo [3d\]: I agree
st21 [1d\]: k16 too good for w
]
;W[of]C[hayaku [3d?\]: not much but I would say about 10 or so on board which seems huge to me
bistrogo [3d\]: more potentiel for withe but less cach
st21 [1d\]: potential always better
bistrogo [3d\]: ^^
]
;B[qj]C[bistrogo [3d\]: if you qay so
bistrogo [3d\]: say*
st21 [1d\]: :p
hayaku [3d?\]: but b can always try to provoke a fight
Blaubaer [6d?\]: g17 or h17?
sedy [7k\]: sounds wrong to me
]
;W[fd]C[sedy [7k\]: i would rather have 10 points cash than 10 points potential
Okumura [2d\]: thats why you re 7k
Okumura [2d\]: :)
st21 [1d\]: 10 points potential?
bistrogo [3d\]: it's a matter of style
st21 [1d\]: how is that :)
]
;B[fc]
;W[hd]C[sedy [7k\]: the remark that potential is better than territory does not hold
hayaku [3d?\]: I would take 10 cash instead of 10 potential too :)
pancake [4d\]: 10 cash IS better then 10 points potential
st21 [-\]: 10 cash = 1 strong shape
pancake [4d\]: but instead of taking 10 points cash, you can usually make 20 ponts potential ;)
sedy [7k\]: okumura, 4d agrees with 7k :)
Blaubaer [6d?\]: it should suit to your style imo
hayaku [3d?\]: yep true enough pancake :)
Mezzanyne [6k\]: these faces are annoying :)
jeven [6k?\]: good point, pancake
Mezzanyne [6k\]: great point, mezzanyne
]
;B[lf]C[Ootakamoku [2d\]: m14 looks a bit desperate
minismurf [-\]: g17 follow-up very big
Mezzanyne [6k\]: just plopping a stone in the middle of nowhere....
minismurf [-\]: but w must still be patient and answer first
]
;W[ph]
;B[qh]C[Blaubaer [6d?\]: poor b he can play whatever he wants it wont be good
]
;W[pj]C[ElAlmaZen [6k\]: black is like 6dan kgs
Nimzovitch [6d\]: poor stone -_-'
st21 [-\]: that 8d shape
st21 [-\]: Artem 8d kgs
ElAlmaZen [6k\]: artem 8dan, right
Ootakamoku [2d\]: w will sac q10 if b tries to push trough, to capture m14 on a large scale?
Mezzanyne [6k\]: m14 forever alone
ecafrekop [26k?\]: cool story bro
jeven [6k?\]: wow, 26k :D
Mezzanyne [6k\]: u mad breh? :D
]
;B[pg]C[bistrogo [3d\]: yes artem is 8d
st21 [-\]: 26k try to kibitz
]
;W[og]
;B[pi]C[st21 [-\]: nice try bro
]
;W[oi]
;B[oh]
;W[nh]C[st21 [-\]: wow
hayaku [3d?\]: [26k\] > [-\] thought :)
Ootakamoku [2d\]: and now q10 dies
Ludmila [3k\]: wow is so better :)
Arhiman [2d\]: wow simon !
Arhiman [2d\]: go simon !
Pingu007 [3d\]: greuh greuh simon
st21 [-\]: you know him?
]
;B[oj]C[indienego: w has grand plans
Pingu007 [3d\]: yep
st21 [-\]: im dont like this for w
jeven [6k?\]: ca veut dire quoi "greuh"?
]
;W[ni]C[bolbi [-\]: rien
indienego: seems b got the better of this exchange
bolbi [-\]: seul greuh greuh signifie quelque chose
jeven [6k?\]: et c quoi?
]
;B[lc]C[sajmon [2k?\]: p6 next for w?
ElAlmaZen [6k\]: cualquier cosa?
]
;W[pk]
;B[rl]C[niark [3d\]: c'esst ou?
Malysz [5d\]: ?
sajmon [2k?\]: oh
niark [3d\]: il est encore etudient simon?
st21 [-\]: doh
]
;W[le]C[jeven [6k?\]: bolbi?
Ootakamoku [2d\]: b is panicking
ElAlmaZen [6k\]: le croissant est jolie
Elitios [6k?\]: le croissant = masculin = joli
ElAlmaZen [6k\]: oh, merci :-)
Elitios [6k?\]: ^^
jeven [6k?\]: elalmazen, "quelque chose" es "algo" en castellano, no es "cualquier cosa"
ElAlmaZen [6k\]: ok, gracias
]
;B[me]
;W[ke]C[patrickelo [2k\]: gut gut
sajmon [2k?\]: je'mapelle tuttapelle como oui?
jeven [6k?\]: sehr gut :)
]
;B[nc]
;W[md]
;B[nd]C[theolddan [1d\]: voila c'est l'europe 
st21 [-\]: will b live there?
RayTomes [1d\]: yes or escape
Elitios [6k?\]: I don't think so
theolddan [1d\]: yes 
jeven [6k?\]: looks like it
st21 [-\]: lets see
theolddan [1d\]: w just cuts 
Elitios [6k?\]: Why am I always wrong ;_;
theolddan [1d\]: but lower side has living shape
ElAlmaZen [6k\]: because 8k are allways wrong
ElAlmaZen [6k\]: 6k *
jeven [6k?\]: Elitios, lol
]
;W[ne]C[ElAlmaZen [6k\]: see, i cant even type
st21 [-\]: ko
]
;B[mf]C[sedy [7k\]: not true elitios
]
;W[ph]C[sedy [7k\]: even i am sometimes right
sedy [7k\]: for the wrong reasons, but sometimes right
RayTomes [1d\]: p15 o14 p12 
jeven [6k?\]: difference between 6k and 7k: 6k know they're always wrong :P
]
;B[ld]C[Elitios [6k?\]: you are wrong to think that you may be sometimes right
]
;W[qi]C[RayTomes [1d\]: escape was easy - now live on side :)
]
;B[ri]
;W[qk]
;B[pi]
;W[rj]C[sedy [7k\]: elitios: i said for the wrong reasons ;)
Elitios [6k?\]: didn't catch it, I was typing ^^ sorry
st21 [-\]: too bad
kikoo90 [5k\]: wasnt that a bad decision of b to play Q11?
]
;B[oe]
;W[qi]
;B[nf]C[st21 [-\]: ..
indienego: terrible result
]
;W[fg]C[jeven [6k?\]: b could have had a ko, i think
Elitios [6k?\]: what is B expecting? looks awful
st21 [-\]: o4
st21 [-\]: or better to answer?
ikewa [7k\]: w is huge
fgkl: k6
st21 [-\]: w just + 15
st21 [-\]: not so far ahead
]
;B[qq]
;W[qp]C[ikewa [7k\]: 15?
]
;B[pr]C[waretsuyla [2k\]: is black french?
ikewa [7k\]: sure?
Seikan [1d\]: yes
]
;W[qr]C[grimmjow1 [2d\]: yes
]
;B[oq]C[waretsuyla [2k\]: ok ty
]
;W[pp]
;B[or]C[jeven [6k?\]: ctr wont be big
Gotika [4d\]: im think w+600 
Gotika [4d\]: yes? 
Nimzovitch [6d\]: at least
qrqr [2d\]: game over, sure
st21 [-\]: over 9000?
]
;W[ce]
;B[bd]C[waretsuyla [2k\]: ah mais c'est zazie!
st21 [-\]: if im start play w now, im think b have chance
grimmjow1 [2d\]: Simon est zazie ?
Javaness [2d\]: le metro est proche
Arhiman [2d\]: oui
grimmjow1 [2d\]: ah ok
Ojisama [-\]: lol
flogo [2d\]: o5  or k6  for white make the game clearly win
]
;W[jn]C[flogo [2d\]: See
indienego: :)
niark [3d\]: milena's plaing??
NoComment [2d\]: ?
ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: W+R
pancake [4d\]: ESGC11CZ1, who is Gelmer playing against?
flogo [2d\]: HAHA
ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: Gelmer plays Simara
qrqr [2d\]: well done, artem
pancake [4d\]: thx
Kour [1k?\]: is there any homepage for esgc?
st21 [-\]: gg
ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: www.egoban.cz
Kour [1k?\]: thank you
ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: thanks for your watching
])