(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[60]OT[3x30 byo-yomi]
GN[ESGC: Simara,5d- Kachanovskyi,7d, round4, board1]PW[Jan Simara]PB[Artem Kachanovskyi]WR[5d]BR[7d]DT[2011-10-16]EV[Europen Students Go Championship]RO[4]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
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;W[dp]
;B[pq]
;W[dd]
;B[oc]
;W[fp]
;B[qk]
;W[dj]C[Zachmura [2d\]: flashback, for the win!
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;B[fc]
;W[df]
;B[jd]C[Mikinek [3k\]: go simara go :)
GreatAjax [6k\]: not a sigle stone below 4 for white!
ManOfLOL [5k\]: white would want to extend now
ManOfLOL [5k\]: idk
Zachmura [2d\]: N4
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;W[mp]
;B[po]
;W[jp]C[Zachmura [2d\]: yeah
x0000 [1k\]: I like b
rmod [2k?\]: h3?
howeman [8k\]: or in the S12 area
howeman [8k\]: er
howeman [8k\]: R12
Werfeus [5d\]: some tengen
GreatAjax [6k\]: e6
howeman [8k\]: tengen is fun
oddalot [3k\]: wow, the most calm game of all time
gobugobu [7d\]: f15 or p15 or l10 ?\]
gcentauri [11k\]: i was wondering about f15
howeman [8k\]: how do EGA rankings compare to kgs rankings?
Werfeus [5d\]: EGF*
Sur [8k?\]: Simara is 7d, Artem is 8d here
howeman [8k\]: thank you
ManOfLOL [5k\]: aguilar is 6 dan here
silwyr [1d?\]: What kind of time settings are they using?
Sur [8k?\]: 1 hour + 3x30s
oddalot [3k\]: b could try a reduction of invasion too
oddalot [3k\]: or*
Noemis [3d\]: Is L10 a correct move here ?
oddalot [3k\]: but that seems risky, white could get huge fast
gcentauri [11k\]: p9?
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;B[jk]C[Noemis [3d\]: P10*
x0000 [1k\]: lol
ScoreEst [?\]: W completely dead
Zachmura [2d\]: what now? R15?
x0000 [1k\]: p15?
gcentauri [11k\]: n9?
GreatAjax [6k\]: lets see a crosscut or contact somewhere
kyumato [3d\]: let me try random coordinate generator too, I got r5
oddalot [3k\]: r5 would be horrilbe
kyumato [3d\]: q6 better then?
oddalot [3k\]: q10...or r10 better
javachip [2d\]: i've played games that look exactly like this
kyumato [3d\]: I insist tsuke on q5 stone
x0000 [1k\]: q4 then
Jahfab [1d\]: se ... lol
praeludium [5d\]: k9 is a line too far I would say
qgo [3k\]: p15?
gobugobu [7d\]: hmmm, I recommended  l10 
Hard2Kill [2d\]: just being ambitious
Werfeus [5d\]: I would've k10
oddalot [3k\]: i like k9 because it gives black a good box shape
x0000 [1k\]: SE good
Wink [1k\]: k12 or even l12 
Wink [1k\]: White must invade now.
praeludium [5d\]: l10 best move 
reprisal [3d\]: how do you decide?
Jahfab [1d\]: anyway it's anice "welcome to my home, come and fight "
ScoreEst [?\]: L10 kills all black
oddalot [3k\]: and it sort of reduces white at the same time
Shaomi [-\]: r15 
praeludium [5d\]: p15 enough? 
praeludium [5d\]: but very classical
javachip [2d\]: white needs to get inside
Wink [1k\]: This does look a lot like a recent pro match.
praeludium [5d\]: and simara doesnt like classic
gobugobu [7d\]: what about W r15 or p15 now?
GreatAjax [6k\]: when does fuseki turn to joseki?
Idn [2d\]: Where we can see results on web plz?
reprisal [3d\]: never, hopefully
gobugobu [7d\]: You mean 'when does fuseki (=beginning) to chuban (=middle game)
reprisal [3d\]: its a fine line
reprisal [3d\]: normally when stones start hitting each other
reprisal [3d\]: so it should be soon
ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: results are at www.egoban.cz
Zachmura [2d\]: results: http://ivan.kostka.sweb.cz/Vysledky/MES3.TXT
gobugobu [7d\]: r15 q15 r14 s16 p13 
Idn [2d\]: thx
javachip [2d\]: what about p 15?
gobugobu [7d\]: The middle game starts with the next move, I'd say. (That's not the definition).
Werfeus [5d\]: I'd pincer if r15
reprisal [3d\]: gobug>>but then isnt r12 perfect form for b?
Shaomi [-\]: if w play p15 b can get good result, also k9 is ladder break for some variations
Test7 [?\]: what about probe s16?
gobugobu [7d\]: This is in direct contrast with the definition of 'what is a traffic jam?', the answer being 'A car in front of me'
praeludium [5d\]: s16 = r15
praeludium [5d\]: it's not a probe since you know the answer
Test7 [?\]: right but leaves aji for later and reduce from outside?
gobugobu [7d\]: s16 r15 r17 q17 o9 is possible, too
Test7 [?\]: bottom right has standard invasion/reduction technique , so after r15, white need only worry about the relationship between k9  and the top formation? or am i completely off the mark?
RobertT [-\]: s16 response to r17?
RobertT [-\]: s15*
Wink [1k\]: With all of white stones so high, will black have an easy time living under them?
gobugobu [7d\]: Yes, you are completely off the mark
Test7 [?\]: :(
praeludium [5d\]: :)
reprisal [3d\]: depends what you mean by easy...
oddalot [3k\]: this guy is taking forever geeze
Shaomi [-\]: its because this game is  a matter of life and death
gobugobu [7d\]: sorry, but there are MANY things to worry about (if that is your preferred jargon for 'thinking/considering'.
praeludium [5d\]: when your strategy is to live under your opponent' stones, it's usually not a good strategy
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;W[ok]C[RobertT [-\]: losing teams get expeled from their schools
Shaomi [-\]: r7 
gobugobu [7d\]: P9 is kind of standard locally.
oddalot [3k\]: r7 is not good enough
RobertT [-\]: when caped knights move
gobugobu [7d\]: n5  could be a pro move next
praeludium [5d\]: are you serious gobu? 
RobertT [-\]: kill it all!
gobugobu [7d\]: locally, B could consider q11 or r11, I guess
reprisal [3d\]: or p10?
gobugobu [7d\]: no
oddalot [3k\]: q11 seems like something worth considering
praeludium [5d\]: p10 doesnt use k9? 
gobugobu [7d\]: p10 is an amateur move
oddalot [3k\]: p10 just makes w stronger
RobertT [-\]: dont touch his stone
Draxt [2k\]: and q10?
praeludium [5d\]: n5 need guts 
gobugobu [7d\]: Yes, but what is life without guts?
praeludium [5d\]: it's my cat life
gobugobu [7d\]: On TV they are just showing the Sumo Tournament that is taking place now. LOADS of guts.
duduu [1d?\]: q10 possible ?
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;B[gk]C[praeludium [5d\]: wow
gobugobu [7d\]: G9 I don't understand
oddalot [3k\]: haha
javachip [2d\]: do either of these players play on kgs?
gobugobu [7d\]: g9 d8 would NOT be kikashi.
Mikinek [3k\]: artem wow
hoohoo [-\]: give me a million years and some monkey and typewriters and i wouldve never played g9
oddalot [3k\]: artem = artem92
reprisal [3d\]: jan is flashback
gobugobu [7d\]: Maybe if W q11 , B has prepared p10 
Shaomi [-\]: i think w is sure to play another move on right side now
praeludium [5d\]: this is very conceptual go 
Draxt [2k\]: g9 is pro or amateur move?
gobugobu [7d\]: But G9 is too vague
oddalot [3k\]: i'ts ukraine move
RobertT [-\]: artem move
reprisal [3d\]: i like g9, because its so far from any book move
gobugobu [7d\]: r10 q10 q9 r11 s10 r8 
reprisal [3d\]: he's playing his own game
oddalot [3k\]: later g9 will be the last liberty in some crazy fight
gobugobu [7d\]: In other words, W can't do much on the right side either.
kyumato [3d\]: it's pro move if artem realizes to sacrifice it in next 60 moves or so, seen it in some pro game
praeludium [5d\]: yes reprisal, it shows strong style 
GreatAjax [6k\]: maybe  B wants white to start sente g9 waits
gobugobu [7d\]: You mean, oddalot, that B just filled in that last liberty?
oddalot [3k\]: no, i mean he just gave himself 3 extra liberties to the group it attaches to
Jahfab [1d\]: with all the w stones on the 4 line, he doesn't want w having influence with g9/K9 ?
gobugobu [7d\]: That is an advanced concept.
reprisal [3d\]: i dont think b was afraid of w immediately playing g9, no
praeludium [5d\]: b waits for white to play locally 
reprisal [3d\]: savoring the fuseki
reprisal [3d\]: like when your alarm goes off
gobugobu [7d\]: I don't think W would ever want to play at h9 or so - therefore g9 seems neither urgent nor to the point.
reprisal [3d\]: and you resist waking up for a few more minutes
reprisal [3d\]: since every minute in bed in the morning is a good one
gobugobu [7d\]: W wants to cut the line between k16 and k9 
gobugobu [7d\]: e.g. by playing h15 h17 k15 
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;W[lk]C[gruenwald [-\]: w trapped?
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;B[pi]C[praeludium [5d\]: now g9 looks like good... helps a weak stone 
gobugobu [7d\]: m9 is lame
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;W[el]C[gobugobu [7d\]: I thought locally, W could play p11 
gobugobu [7d\]: The exchange B q11 for m9 is good for B
gobugobu [7d\]: therefore, m9 was lukewarm
GreatAjax [6k\]: very positinal go
Caribe [4k\]: it seems w liked b's perspective so much he imitates it
x0000 [1k\]: B is better
gruenwald [-\]: kind of symmetry here
gobugobu [7d\]: e8 is a reasonable move - locvally
oddalot [3k\]: b has to invade bottom  now?
gobugobu [7d\]: locally
gobugobu [7d\]: Because B d8 or d9 would be good
GreatAjax [6k\]: positional*
gruenwald [-\]: but: w has no stone below the fourth line
gruenwald [-\]: while b has 4
gobugobu [7d\]: 5, you mean
gruenwald [-\]: yes
gobugobu [7d\]: :-)
oddalot [3k\]: c4?
gruenwald [-\]: 7d count so wee :)
gruenwald [-\]: *well
reprisal [3d\]: its why they are unbeatable
gobugobu [7d\]: well, you were 25% off (or 20%, depending on what you use as the basis for comparing)
gobugobu [7d\]: W wants to play r8 fairly soon
reprisal [3d\]: m9 really looks weird to me now
Sur [8k?\]: you dont choose any basis for comparing, lol. It's the right number
reprisal [3d\]: i want to move that stone somewhere else
gobugobu [7d\]: after q11, W s16 is no longer answered at r15 . B will now resist with r17 
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;B[cq]C[Draxt [2k\]: how easy it is to invade white?
gobugobu [7d\]: c3 ????
gruenwald [-\]: this is gote
hyuend [1k\]: =_=
reprisal [3d\]: its easy to invade, but you might not like the result you get
Harmonika [2d\]: no good move in center, tenuki ?
gobugobu [7d\]: subsisting is not the issue. One wants to thrive.
reprisal [3d\]: invading when you have a moyo is always dangerous since a weak group can ruin your entire board...have to be careful
Draxt [2k\]: thanks reprisal
gobugobu [7d\]: invading when you have no moyo can be dangerous too.
reprisal [3d\]: its true
gobugobu [7d\]: only for different reasons.
Caribe [4k\]: seek for influence is what you do when you have enough moyo
Draxt [2k\]: even with all these stone on 4 lines?
reprisal [3d\]: but now we're getting close to "you have to think before you do stuff" :)
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;W[cp]
;B[bp]C[gruenwald [-\]: and this gives w a lot of secure territory aroud c7 
gobugobu [7d\]: that sounds like philosophy, man :-)
reprisal [3d\]: no philosophy is think??? stuff???? hard to prove!!
gobugobu [7d\]: Sometimes, stuff is self-evident. Or it is the axiom.
reprisal [3d\]: berkeley will challenge that!
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;W[bo]
;B[br]C[Zachmura [2d\]: memorable game
gruenwald [-\]: early to tell
gobugobu [7d\]: challenging is easy. (This is a variation on Mark Twain's comment about quitting smoking, saying 'quitting is easy, I've done it at least a 100 times'.
praeludium [5d\]: w l11 seems importante 
Caribe [4k\]: is it possible that b is trying to destroy w's confidence with that ko? or by getting more than what the ko brings with?
oddalot [3k\]: is this ko?
gobugobu [7d\]: yes, L11 has the right idea.
gobugobu [7d\]: It could be ko
GreatAjax [6k\]: doesnt d2 kill it?
Draxt [2k\]: d2 d3 e3 c5 
gobugobu [7d\]: d2 d3 e3 c2 ---- no kill
OldWillie [2k\]: so small life or ko?
OldWillie [2k\]: w choice
gobugobu [7d\]: choice is defined as 'an opportunity to make a mistake'..
kyumato [3d\]: could go for d2 d3 e2 etc..
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;W[ki]C[gruenwald [-\]: how to find this l11 move/ why is it good?
gobugobu [7d\]: d2 d3 e2 e3 f3 c5 d5 c6 b6 - looks impossible for W
reprisal [3d\]: well breaks the line between k9/k16
Noemis [3d\]: push on the white power
Noemis [3d\]: and limit black influence
reprisal [3d\]: which is good in an abstract sense
gobugobu [7d\]: gruenwald (L11 was never lost, so there was no need to find it.
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;B[hi]C[gobugobu [7d\]: k12 next looks like shape, locally....
gobugobu [7d\]: However W wants to cut the line between k16 and h11 
gobugobu [7d\]: e.g. j16 might be interesting
gruenwald [-\]: but options like r8 r15 or p15 seem more interesting to me
gobugobu [7d\]: But B is aiming for a chance to cut at m10 
praeludium [5d\]: at h15 b wont answer h17? µ
Backflash [10k\]: oh
Backflash [10k\]: how did this happen?
gobugobu [7d\]: W h15, B j14 ?
reprisal [3d\]: looks fun!
reprisal [3d\]: gobu, are you worried about b m10 now?
FreshTooth [2k\]: f2?
Caribe [4k\]: gobugobu; make 3 guesses for the next move. If one of them is to be played by w; I will break a tooth
gobugobu [7d\]: I don't want you to do that.
Caribe [4k\]: lol
SWhole: you got false teeth?
Caribe [4k\]: nice answer
gobugobu [7d\]: sry, I won't cooperate with that kind of bet.
Goemon [2d?\]: f11 or h13 ?
hyuend [1k\]: is h13 good?
bv4 [2k\]: thx gobu
ZeNit [?\]: He never said he'll break his own tooth...
DejMiPivo [?\]: would leg/arm be better?
gobugobu [7d\]: h13 k12 
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;W[ih]
;B[ii]C[hyuend [1k\]: hmm
gobugobu [7d\]: maybe 'cut the cheese'
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;W[jh]C[FreshTooth [2k\]: stop trolling please, gobugobu isnt a troll like the others 7d+
gobugobu [7d\]: Yes, j12 looks reasonable, but B j11 is too good
FreshTooth [2k\]: g13?
gobugobu [7d\]: B is now thick in the center.
FreshTooth [2k\]: g13!
Goemon [2d?\]: d12?
bv4 [2k\]: tenuki
gobugobu [7d\]: g13 next would be normal
Noemis [3d\]: just g13
gobugobu [7d\]: g13 j15 h17 g15 ?
Goemon [2d?\]: but gote
gobugobu [7d\]: what about g13 j15 k15 j14 g16 ?
Noemis [3d\]: can't he g15 isntead of j14 ?
gobugobu [7d\]: but no.... after that j16 j17 h17 h16 k17 j18 l17 h18 l15 captures
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;B[ei]C[reprisal [3d\]: m10 is really not a concern?
gobugobu [7d\]: I hate e11 
GreatAjax [6k\]: must be some mystical "altergame" going on lokks like a yin-yang board
gobugobu [7d\]: b is already thick
MicMacAngl [2k\]: e11 seems to mean he wants to cut at m10 eh?
gruenwald [-\]: this one is afraid?
gobugobu [7d\]: maybe now, d2 d3 e2 may become possible
reprisal [3d\]: i guess cutting m9 has no real value?
gobugobu [7d\]: not yet
reprisal [3d\]: i am so scared with knights moves
gobugobu [7d\]: first the line around g13 is important
reprisal [3d\]: where did you learn so much about these lines?
gobugobu [7d\]: e10 f11 c12 ?
Zachmura [2d\]: on the way from 3d to 7d
gobugobu [7d\]: Ideally, W wants to force h12 g11 then play d11 
gruenwald [-\]: b4 today i almost knew nothing about lines
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;W[di]C[reprisal [3d\]: i've heard another 7d speak of them extensively but they don't seem to be refered to much in pro commentaries
reprisal [3d\]: i feel i'm missing out on a concept
gobugobu [7d\]: reading not only in between the lines but the actual lines is foremost important.
Untier [8k\]: hio, just joined
Zachmura [2d\]: watching this game i regret they don't have more time
Untier [8k\]: is this the Artem form kgs ?
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;B[eh]C[reprisal [3d\]: it's artem vs flashback
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;W[dh]C[gobugobu [7d\]: we have been waiting the whole time, Untier
Untier [8k\]: nice
Cher2 [13k\]: b wants to kill w in center?
reprisal [3d\]: no no scrub all talk of kill
blob [5k\]: lol
gruenwald [-\]: w  is BUM here
praeludium [5d\]: well sometimes you don't say "this line is important" but "this move is big" to express the same idea... 
gobugobu [7d\]: I don't like e11 and e12 
blob [5k\]: me neither .\\/.
gobugobu [7d\]: no, that is a radically different approach, Prae.
gruenwald [-\]: i will look more for lines in ,my next games and see what happens
Backflash [10k\]: b lives inside!
blob [5k\]: introverts are sad
gruenwald [-\]: now l11 weakness becomes important
praeludium [5d\]: I mean not big in term of points, just important move
gobugobu [7d\]: lines are about the balance of power.
reprisal [3d\]: okay, so since b and both have floating groups
blob [5k\]: lines is just a way to talk about the connectivity of groups, no?
reprisal [3d\]: breaking the lines shifts the balance of power
Untier [8k\]: isn't it to good for w to get such a strong wall on 4th line ?
ZeNit [?\]: line = suji?
blob [5k\]: i think so
Caribe [4k\]: esgc; whats the time situation pls?
blob [5k\]: @Untier
praeludium [5d\]:  b thinks that c17 is still open
Zachmura [2d\]: it is good. but too good, who can say...
gruenwald [-\]: untier yes, but b will get compensation on the upper side
gobugobu [7d\]: connecticut to be precise
blob [5k\]: who wants to live there!
ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: B 25 min, W 12 min left
reprisal [3d\]: keep in mind b knows very well that pushing on fourth line is "not good"
reprisal [3d\]: yet he is doing it anyway
gogonuts [5d\]: w seems fine up to here
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;B[gf]C[Untier [8k\]: yes repsisal, i saw a few of artems games, i dont doubt his skill
NhanHo [1d\]: how much time does each player have at the start?
Ojisama [-\]: who won yesterday? prokop or simara?
praeludium [5d\]: now a move around n11
Zachmura [2d\]: Šimara
ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: simara by 1.5 point
gogonuts [5d\]: this is board 1
gogonuts [5d\]: answer yourself
Ojisama [-\]: thx
Zachmura [2d\]: thats why he is playing Artem now
gobugobu [7d\]: What if W plays h12 g12 g11 ?
gruenwald [-\]: o12 ?
gobugobu [7d\]: I think this b shape sucks
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;W[oe]C[gogonuts [5d\]: how about o16?
praeludium [5d\]: ah, eventually it is getting messy
stalkor [7k?\]: i like w now:)
reprisal [3d\]: h12 g12 g11 g13 f10 ? and just fight?
gobugobu [7d\]: But anyway, B is threatening m10 
Zachmura [2d\]: and this is effectively a final. the winner is most likely an overall winner
praeludium [5d\]: p 15 is a bad idea
blob [5k\]: hmmm p15 seems too deep for moyo and too shallow for a probe
gobugobu [7d\]: I think p15 is quite good
gogonuts [5d\]: i would have prefered o16, but why is p15 bad?
praeludium [5d\]: o14 now ? 
Untier [8k\]: yes blob, that is what i was thinkiing, p15 is not forcing enough
javachip [2d\]: ah the move i was asking about earlier
gobugobu [7d\]: however, I might play o11 - after that W can invade deeply
ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: W 10 minutes left
gobugobu [7d\]: or attach at r8 
gobugobu [7d\]: what about B?
praeludium [5d\]: just divide w somewhere
gogonuts [5d\]: o14 is certainly a strong counter, but if b has to undertake such non-standard measures w cant be bad
javachip [2d\]: this looks good for b
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;B[mh]
;W[kk]C[javachip [2d\]: very good for b actually
gobugobu [7d\]: divide et conguere
reprisal [3d\]: heh easy enough to see the line of n12
gobugobu [7d\]: still W p15 is light
reprisal [3d\]: still has both its miai points
gogonuts [5d\]: and the cut at m10 is gone :-)
gobugobu [7d\]: Jan Shimara has courage (I played him IRL 1 year ago)
reprisal [3d\]: yeah n12 sure spends a lot
gogonuts [5d\]: n12 is actually very abbitious - it only makes sense if b can swallow p15
blob [5k\]: n15?
DejMiPivo [?\]: gobugobu: who won?
praeludium [5d\]: n15, why not? 
gooooo [-\]: black ahead?
gogonuts [5d\]: i dont think so
gogonuts [5d\]: p15 is a pain for b
reprisal [3d\]: oh yes, it spends so much, high sunk costs mean you have to recover a lot :)
Untier [8k\]: pm territory W is ahead, but B has more potential 
Backflash [10k\]: basically equal for now
gogonuts [5d\]: basically insanely complicated :-)
Untier [8k\]: indeed :PÜ
reprisal [3d\]: yeah
bv4 [2k\]: not so sure w has not syre corners
gogonuts [5d\]: you have to trust your instincts in judgement
reprisal [3d\]: and your fighting
reprisal [3d\]: since that seems imminent
gobugobu [7d\]: Nonses, gogo
gobugobu [7d\]: nonsense
Noemis [3d\]: I would say it's more or less impossible to clearly count points now
Backflash [10k\]: you shouldn't
Kram [6d\]: jan simara vs artem nice matchup : )
ShapeMaker [4k\]: ask SE, it knows :)
gogonuts [5d\]: ithink its complicated because b has to prove the worth of n12 now
gogonuts [5d\]: so we should be heading for a complex fight
gobugobu [7d\]: can n15 capture p15 ?
Harmonika [2d\]: w has a better shape
blob [5k\]: i think n15 would give n12 value
Noemis [3d\]: SE dunno Artem and Simara skills ;)
Shenron [1d\]: But b is stronger so he should fight
gogonuts [5d\]: n15 might capture - but if not b drove w through his territory
reprisal [3d\]: no evidence that b is stronger
DapperDan [2k\]: I don't like white's middle shape
DapperDan [2k\]: looks wonky
Veivi [4d\]: N12 seems like a very useful stone to me
reprisal [3d\]: m10 cut was very useful too though
DapperDan [2k\]: k8 seems obvious?
blob [5k\]: obvious why?
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;B[le]C[reprisal [3d\]: equally ambitious!
Untier [8k\]: he wants to capture p15 it seems
reprisal [3d\]: NOM!!!
DapperDan [2k\]: i thought p15 was already captured
DapperDan [2k\]: but good honte move
oddalot [3k\]: this game is so calm it's crazy
Untier [8k\]: i dont think it is captured in definately now
Shenron [1d\]: I see 5d next to w name and 7d next to b name, thats  evidence
Backflash [10k\]: nope
DapperDan [2k\]: this is a good game
reprisal [3d\]: i see a hard game in front of me, i trust that more than ranks
DapperDan [2k\]: solid honte play by black
DapperDan [2k\]: that's good
reprisal [3d\]: i think this is ambitious, not honte
blob [5k\]: w needs show us some magic now :)
DapperDan [2k\]: white looks mega dead to me but i'm weak
Harmonika [2d\]: r15
Shenron [1d\]: W hs some room
Untier [8k\]: well, you can really feel the difference in this game. I have not even the sligtest idea where they play next =)
gogonuts [5d\]: ambitious play was the only option after n12 imo
reprisal [3d\]: oh i agree, i wouldn't dream of calling m15 bad
]
;W[nc]C[Noemis [3d\]: n12 was ambitious for sure :)
krikri [1d\]: it looks like handicap game to me from w and thats not good
praeludium [5d\]: p 15 took the risk, now w has to show he didnt bluff... 
DapperDan [2k\]: he looks mega dead to me
DapperDan [2k\]: but i'm weak
reprisal [3d\]: yup, its all very hard
Kram [6d\]: thats how he looks to me
gogonuts [5d\]: i dont think b can take all here
blob [5k\]: p16, no?
Kram [6d\]: white will be happy as long as he lives
Kram [6d\]: even if its small life
gogonuts [5d\]: agree
DapperDan [2k\]: q17?
gogonuts [5d\]: not too tiny though :-)
Veivi [4d\]: i wouldn't want to be the one having to kill every stone inside here
Goemon [2d?\]: shinogi for w looks little bit hard there
k0n0 [?\]: B doesnt have to kill every stone
blob [5k\]: ...what does shimogi mean?
Kram [6d\]: altogether as long as its enough to win the game ; )
blob [5k\]: *shinogi
krikri [1d\]: dont know what did w wrong at start but compete in territory in moyo when opponent has 2 shimari looks difficult to me
gruenwald [-\]: w soon in byoyomi....
gogonuts [5d\]: looking back, i like the suggestion that was made at o14 better than this for b
DapperDan [2k\]: q17?
Goemon [2d?\]: w k18 = something ?
Caribe [4k\]: p16 i say
Pask [5k\]: p16
Untier [8k\]: i would like o16
gobugobu [7d\]: hmmm, that's why I preferred m15 at n15 
gogonuts [5d\]: n15 had a better chance of killing - but if not the top was gone for sure
DapperDan [2k\]: i don't know what there is to think about 
DapperDan [2k\]: seems pretty straight foward
gogonuts [5d\]: only about the next 10 moves
]
;B[od]C[Untier [8k\]: i guess thats the diff between 2k and 7d ^^
Kram [6d\]: does not seem straight forward to me
DapperDan [2k\]: maybe
Shenron [1d\]: N15?
Kram [6d\]: it looks dead to me but it still looks hard to kill
reprisal [3d\]: :)
Draxt [2k\]: o18 ?
krikri [1d\]: i wonder why nobody commented F4 move at the start it looks very slow and i think start of all trouble  for w
DapperDan [2k\]: but i mean i think black could do a number of things and kill it
DapperDan [2k\]: i mean it doesn't look like there is only one path
]
;W[me]C[reprisal [3d\]: oh no way
]
;B[mf]C[praeludium [5d\]: nice shape
gobugobu [7d\]: n15 looks like  a nice move
reprisal [3d\]: killing is hard, have to choose path very carefully
Caribe [4k\]: punishing m15
gogonuts [5d\]: y
gogonuts [5d\]: b going all in
]
;W[nd]
;B[nf]
;W[ne]C[reprisal [3d\]: w too!
DapperDan [2k\]: toast
gogonuts [5d\]: this looks survivable
praeludium [5d\]: m16
DapperDan [2k\]: no
gobugobu [7d\]: still, B n14 o16 o14 o15 is difficult for both sides
gobugobu [7d\]: W will not die
praeludium [5d\]: actually white is now very heavy...
Goemon [2d?\]: will die
DapperDan [2k\]: i think dies
gobugobu [7d\]: no
reprisal [3d\]: yes he's all in as well
stalkor [7k?\]: 2d says: die 5d says: heavy 7d says: alive
Goemon [2d?\]: m14 cut severe yes but still
blob [5k\]: q15
gogonuts [5d\]: it looks more like worst case for b to me
LordVader [1d\]: isn't R14 enough to kill ?
]
;B[lc]C[gogonuts [5d\]: has simara won all games sofar?
gobugobu [7d\]: It is statistically proven that W's groups die less often than B's.
krikri [1d\]: zes
gogonuts [5d\]: lol
krikri [1d\]:  http://ivan.kostka.sweb.cz/Vysledky/MES3.TXT
ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: yes
Backflash [10k\]: is corner falls now?
LordVader [1d\]: :) good point
gogonuts [5d\]: thx
loverabbit [2d\]: lol
gobugobu [7d\]: m14 is a free cut now
aitkensam [-\]: r15 first think later
Shenron [1d\]: R17?
gobugobu [7d\]: the technique locally is m16 l16 m18 l18 n17 l17 m14 l15 
gogonuts [5d\]: no, has to think here - m14,p18,r15 all possible
kyumato [3d\]: r15 seems a bit ajikeshi, might consider something like r17 too
]
;W[ld]
;B[kd]C[LordVader [1d\]: starting from which move, gobugobu ?
gogonuts [5d\]: right, m18 next looks good
]
;W[lb]C[loverabbit [2d\]: m14 B take Ko first,no?
LordVader [1d\]: oh, like this ?
DapperDan [2k\]: L18 seems obvious
Goemon [2d?\]: w is trying to make m14 cut important :P
gogonuts [5d\]: b trying to avoid gobus sequence
praeludium [5d\]: can't avoid it
DapperDan [2k\]: what is gobus?
gogonuts [5d\]: this looks like a big w octopus lioving everywhere
aitkensam [-\]: gobugobu
Blaubaer [6d?\]: id prefer l17
reprisal [3d\]: that's a scary image
sagesse [-\]: o18 ?
gogonuts [5d\]: it was meant to be :-)
LordVader [1d\]: loving everywhere ? :-| very scary indeed
Untier [8k\]: so much for the already dead p15 stone =)
reprisal [3d\]: that's even scarier
DapperDan [2k\]: what's wrong with L18?
reprisal [3d\]: it is getting forced...
gogonuts [5d\]: prob contemplating L17 instead
Blaubaer [6d?\]: nthg i yust prefer l17 dont know why :-)
Backflash [10k\]: w wants l18 thats what
DapperDan [2k\]: so
gobugobu [7d\]: either way, B gets forced
reprisal [3d\]: well it never feels good to be forced
reprisal [3d\]: so you think of ways to resist :)
LordVader [1d\]: what about a simple capture of the m15 stone ?
Untier [8k\]: cant black just take ?
Backflash [10k\]: point of taking?
gogonuts [5d\]: b can avoid beeing forced by letting w capture m17 :-)
lightcargo: what is the significance of this game. how strong are these guys really
reprisal [3d\]: true!
krikri [1d\]: sure but go against stream is very hard and costly :D
reprisal [3d\]: tenuki always an option!
gobugobu [7d\]: yes, but that is saying that 'living is breathing'.
gogonuts [5d\]: its so profound :-)
reprisal [3d\]: c17 sure does look big⁄! now is as good as ever :)
blob [5k\]: o18?
Untier [8k\]: is O18 possible ?
gobugobu [7d\]: There is so much more to life than breathing. (Althoug I don't know, because I have asthma)
krikri [1d\]: artem made very goos result at go congres if im not mistaken
HW9x9 [1d\]: This game should be on EuroGoTV
sagesse [-\]: o18 defends the corner and creates a possible cutting point
Sur [8k?\]: the winner of this will probably be the european student champion
stalkor [7k?\]: then why isnt it HW?
gobugobu [7d\]: Yes, it should. Tell Harry!
gogonuts [5d\]: artem is probably looking beyond this fight - trying to find any plan to still make a game of it
Blaubaer [6d?\]: b position is not that good?
qgo [3k\]: no advertising HW
HW9x9 [1d\]: ^^
gogonuts [5d\]: it looks almost broken
praeludium [5d\]: sagesse, b o18 makes w live instantly
ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: HW9x9: unfortunately, e hae here just mobile internet, not enough for EuroGoTV
josekin [6k?\]: If b L18, white is forced to run into the right black territory
ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: we have
josekin [6k?\]: Might be bigger to defend the right side?
sagesse [-\]: praeludium, how?
Blaubaer [6d?\]: sthg like q18? instead of l17 l18?
gobugobu [7d\]: W wants to play r15 s16 m14 l15 and p12 
Blaubaer [6d?\]: q14 ops
HW9x9 [1d\]: i understand ESGC11CZ, i was only telling how nice this game is
krikri [1d\]: still dont get the logic of it when qualification to world student championship isthrough internet and winning this tournament has no value for it only title
DapperDan [2k\]: man thinking hard
DapperDan [2k\]: not that many options
praeludium [5d\]: o18 n18 p18 l17
praeludium [5d\]: There is so much more to life than breathing. <---- the sense of this is enigmatic to me 
oddalot [3k\]: what is the time settings for this game?
gogonuts [5d\]: he was protesting against profound-sounding self-evident truths
sagesse [-\]: oh that...thanks
gobugobu [7d\]: what is puzzling about it, Prae?
reprisal [3d\]: platitude is such a great word
praeludium [5d\]: there is more things related to life than to breath? 
gobugobu [7d\]: thx gogo, for explaining me
gogonuts [5d\]: it would also make a great nick
Backflash [10k\]: yea, food, water
Zachmura [2d\]: time settings: 1 hour + 3x30s byoyomi
gogonuts [5d\]: lol
]
;B[ob]C[DapperDan [2k\]: :o
gobugobu [7d\]: l17 next
Backflash [10k\]: hm
DapperDan [2k\]: woah that's why i'm not 7d
Zachmura [2d\]: they both used all or almost all of their basic time
DapperDan [2k\]: never would of guessed that
LordVader [1d\]: strange move, preparing for endgame ? :)
gobugobu [7d\]: but then W missed out on cutting at m14 in sente
Backflash [10k\]: well, b decided he would win anyway no point in bloodshed
DapperDan [2k\]: pretty good move though i think
gobugobu [7d\]: so that is an interesting thing B just did.
]
;W[qe]
;B[re]C[praeludium [5d\]: nice move indeed
Blaubaer [6d?\]: wasnt p18 at r14 q14 bigger?
Jye [3k\]: makes it difficult for w to get an eye at n18
gobugobu [7d\]: W of course could play n17 l17 m14 
praeludium [5d\]: p18 is not about points, it's about shape... 
Blaubaer [6d?\]: :-)
gobugobu [7d\]: It's about eyes, to be exact.
DapperDan [2k\]: it's about winning
DapperDan [2k\]: to more exact
krikri [1d\]: go for the eys Boo go for the eyes
LordVader [1d\]: lol ^^
praeludium [5d\]: eyes with a good shape tend to be attractive
Jye [3k\]: lol @ Boo
gobugobu [7d\]: geeze guys it was 30 degrees in Tokyo today
aitkensam [-\]: to be more exact to be more exact
reprisal [3d\]: yes, and two is the right number of eyes!
Blaubaer [6d?\]: true if you fail to kill you have at least the nice shape
reprisal [3d\]: though one is better than three? how does that make sense
LowKey [2d?\]: Always aim for their right eye - spoils their aim
josekin [6k?\]: It was about 0 °C in Germany this morning :(
gogonuts [5d\]: if w can play r14 and live without ko it almost a sure win
gobugobu [7d\]: anyway....
aitkensam [-\]: q16 seems more likely?
praeludium [5d\]: w has only one eye at top, needs to find another one on right side
praeludium [5d\]: it's pretty difficult for him I'd say 
ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: W in byoyomi
DapperDan [2k\]: especially since top right is settled
gogonuts [5d\]: thx for the info
Backflash [10k\]: well at least it will be over fast
gobugobu [7d\]: Maybe I am a freak, but I want W to play the tesuji m14 n16 o12 
]
;W[rf]C[gogonuts [5d\]: not a great time to enter byoyomi
oddalot [3k\]: what are the byo yomi times?
Blaubaer [6d?\]: wow
DapperDan [2k\]: white has a death wish
gobugobu [7d\]: s14 is overplayish
]
;B[pe]
;W[pf]
;B[qf]
;W[qg]C[LordVader [1d\]: that looks painful :)
DapperDan [2k\]: and artem grants wishes
praeludium [5d\]: oO
LordVader [1d\]: cut !!
DapperDan [2k\]: connect
gogonuts [5d\]: what did w just do?
blob [5k\]: slash and burn
DapperDan [2k\]: he had a death wish
gobugobu [7d\]: p14 r15 q16 s16 ? but that is hardly worth the trouble
aitkensam [-\]: w made it more likely something will live
krikri [1d\]: BUM is jans other account :)
Blaubaer [6d?\]: w makes the game more fun
gogonuts [5d\]: lol
]
;B[qe]C[Draxt [2k\]: b want evrything
DapperDan [2k\]: resigning is always fun
gobugobu [7d\]: what??
aitkensam [-\]: artem doesnt like being soft!
]
;W[qi]C[LordVader [1d\]: strange, no cut ? 
gobugobu [7d\]: B wants to kill everything?
Blaubaer [6d?\]: why not cut?
LordVader [1d\]: what is applying sacrifice strategy ?
reprisal [3d\]: you are surprised?
Draxt [2k\]: seem so
DapperDan [2k\]: omg cut
blob [5k\]: p18 was a winning move
reprisal [3d\]: all b moves have been to kill all :)
gogonuts [5d\]: stranger - no connection
DapperDan [2k\]: cut cut cut
]
;B[ph]C[aitkensam [-\]: q12 seems like the most overplay 
aitkensam [-\]: haha
gobugobu [7d\]: W selfdestructed\]
praeludium [5d\]: aitken lol 
gogonuts [5d\]: too bad this fine game is going down the drain in byoyomi
Draxt [2k\]: nice move
Jye [3k\]: aye
]
;W[qj]C[Backflash [10k\]: he
LordVader [1d\]: it's byo yomi ?
Blaubaer [6d?\]: bismark tesuji
DapperDan [2k\]: down with the ship
gogonuts [5d\]: w is
ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: W in byyomi already
Zachmura [2d\]: agree, gogo
praeludium [5d\]: b has better fighting skills 
reprisal [3d\]: b surely will be soon
DapperDan [2k\]: no retreat no surrender
ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: B has 2 min left
praeludium [5d\]: p18 was really nice 
irongirder: is it really 30sec/mv byoyomi?
Zachmura [2d\]: i would add them time :). this game deserves it
DapperDan [2k\]: just q10
LordVader [1d\]: what's the bismark tesuji ?
gobugobu [7d\]: Bluebear, you guys are still sour about that Bismarck?
DapperDan [2k\]: it means you sink
Jye [3k\]: if only b were 7kyu... w could kill n14 and p12 etc
praeludium [5d\]: nismarck tesuji? make the opponent self-destruct? 
NhanHo [1d\]: hmm what's the byoyomi setting of the game?
praeludium [5d\]: Bismarck* 
Backflash [10k\]: Vader it's when you go down-down-down the stream
]
;B[pj]C[reprisal [3d\]: bismarck was sunk on an absurdly lucky shot
]
;W[rk]C[LordVader [1d\]: down down the stream ? :)
gloooomph [1d\]: no, that's the backwards salmon tesuji
reprisal [3d\]: the analogy seems strained
Draxt [2k\]: i bet on s8 
Backflash [10k\]: Vader yea, right into abyss
gobugobu [7d\]: No, it went down after being shot more than 300 times.
DapperDan [2k\]: r12
reprisal [3d\]: the original hit from a swordfish torpedo plain
]
;B[pk]C[reprisal [3d\]: was basically the hand of god
reprisal [3d\]: *plane
Kram [6d\]: woah.... i go away for a couple minutes comeback and white is looking dead
krikri [1d\]: he was unlucky too that that german submarine has no torpedo left it could help him
gobugobu [7d\]: p9 is a nice peep
Zachmura [2d\]: so white's reverse T group just drops dead?
blob [5k\]: yes
praeludium [5d\]: Yes Kram, byoyomi was letal 
Blaubaer [6d?\]: no the point is the Bismarck selfdestructed after that shot :-)
LordVader [1d\]: yeah, remember that was that group that was going to life for sure ;-)
Kram [6d\]: i can tell poor BUM
]
;W[rl]C[praeludium [5d\]: are we talking about the same bismarck? 
blob [5k\]: not after it was going to die for sure...
]
;B[rn]C[DapperDan [2k\]: why not just r7
DapperDan [2k\]: s6 seems weird to me
Backflash [10k\]: prae i guess we talk about biig ship no?
]
;W[rg]C[gobugobu [7d\]: In a parallel world it lives.
LordVader [1d\]: you have to be one step ahead dapperdan :) it's to limit the eyespace
praeludium [5d\]: no... 
Zachmura [2d\]: there was the ship and there was the chancellor
Cher2 [13k\]: q13
praeludium [5d\]: I was talking of Otto
Kram [6d\]: q13 bad
ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: B in byoyomi
Blaubaer [6d?\]: hm some aji on bs upper side?
krikri [1d\]: von Bismarc
praeludium [5d\]: p15 was the Bismarck tesuji
Zachmura [2d\]: Palpatine
]
;B[pg]C[blob [5k\]: lol
oddalot [3k\]: lol 
gobugobu [7d\]: I think p15 was fine
Kram [6d\]: hmm q13 made no sense to me : (
DapperDan [2k\]: h3?
oddalot [3k\]: ask the 13kyu
aitkensam [-\]: its really solid for sure
]
;W[kc]C[DapperDan [2k\]: woah
Kram [6d\]: how sure? 
praeludium [5d\]: sure gobugobu, but b lead this fight better
Blaubaer [6d?\]: i dont get s13
DapperDan [2k\]: greedy greedy greedy
aitkensam [-\]: too sure imo
Blaubaer [6d?\]: s14 ops
Kram [6d\]: ok : )
]
;B[md]C[DapperDan [2k\]: this is uber dead
gloooomph [1d\]: I've seen deader
aitkensam [-\]: wants to g17 or something lol
]
;W[ap]
(;B[bq]C[praeludium [5d\]: oO
])
(;B[aq]
;W[bq]C[Zachmura [2d\]: it's not dead until it is taken from the board
aitkensam [-\]: hehe
DapperDan [2k\]: undo
aitkensam [-\]: connect seemed a little bold
]
;B[jm]C[praeludium [5d\]: yes, nice move again 
]
;W[lm]C[gobugobu [7d\]: how about n17 m16 k17 later?
]
;B[bp]C[gobugobu [7d\]: that doesn't look so dead
]
;W[mc]
;B[ld]C[DapperDan [2k\]: black has a million threats
MiraLime [3d\]: i think black+353.....
praeludium [5d\]: then n18? 
]
;W[bq]C[Draxt [2k\]: this may cost white, more than he can afford
MiraLime [3d\]: lol SE got crazy
Kram [6d\]: n18 ??
gobugobu [7d\]: however....
loverabbit [2d\]: R7?
praeludium [5d\]: w can live with two points 
]
;B[kn]C[DapperDan [2k\]: L6?
DapperDan [2k\]: yes
Kram [6d\]: would seem kinda bad i would just try to kill altogether : o
gobugobu [7d\]: k17 j17 j18 h18 k18 h17 o18 l19 kills
LordVader [1d\]: I keep wondering why black didn't play the D2 komumi earlier in the game ?
]
;W[lo]
;B[bp]C[Kram [6d\]: yeah 
praeludium [5d\]: yes ok kram
Cher2 [13k\]: b- l3 good?
aitkensam [-\]: j17 can be h17 in your line gobu?
LordVader [1d\]: ko wasn't necessary was it ?
DapperDan [2k\]: this is good for black
]
;W[jc]C[LordVader [1d\]: kosumi*
praeludium [5d\]: komumi? sounds cute
Blaubaer [6d?\]: not small
gobugobu [7d\]: well, that is easy - D2 wasn't urgent.
Kram [6d\]: sorry praeludium : ( i was just saying my thought
blob [5k\]: m6??
Kram [6d\]: and kind of agreing with gobugobyu at the same time
LordVader [1d\]: but B4 was ?
oddalot [3k\]: a5
]
;B[ic]C[LordVader [1d\]: he could have played d2 instead of b4
]
;W[bq]C[gobugobu [7d\]: j18 now?
Blaubaer [6d?\]: hm j18 not bigger?
DapperDan [2k\]: n6
DapperDan [2k\]: m6
]
;B[ln]C[Javaness [2d\]: why does ARtem always get black?
xDragon [-\]: because he always gets white
]
;W[mn]C[Draxt [2k\]: karma
Backflash [10k\]: fate
]
;B[bp]C[xDragon [-\]: like he did yesterday
Blaubaer [6d?\]: j18 bidder than b4?
]
;W[ib]C[Blaubaer [6d?\]: bigger...
loverabbit [2d\]: hm hm
praeludium [5d\]: l18?
gobugobu [7d\]: statistically, some people get B more often than others.
DapperDan [2k\]: h18 amigo
]
;B[hc]C[blob [5k\]: n7
gobugobu [7d\]: hmmm.... is W alive now?
loverabbit [2d\]: h18 k18 h17 l17 j19 n19 alive
loverabbit [2d\]: lol
nothinkman [5k\]: logically there must be one white for every black
]
;W[bq]C[DapperDan [2k\]: that's what i was wondering?
gogonuts [5d\]: o18 worth the trouble, isnt it
]
;B[no]C[Blaubaer [6d?\]: living in ko lol
Kram [6d\]: why doesnt white make life
aitkensam [-\]: seems like damezumari after o18 l18
LordVader [1d\]: not alive yet
aitkensam [-\]: so still dead
]
;W[mo]C[Blaubaer [6d?\]: how?
]
;B[bp]C[aitkensam [-\]: o18 l18 k18 l19 then?
praeludium [5d\]: w looks alive to my bad tsumego skills
]
;W[ao]C[gogonuts [5d\]: then n19
Kram [6d\]: than n19?
gobugobu [7d\]: I am fairly good at killing, but I don't have a flair for making things alive. What is my problem?
Kram [6d\]: right
]
;B[eq]C[gogonuts [5d\]: lol
Backflash [10k\]: you are to aggressive
xDragon [-\]: kill w instead of making w live then
Jye [3k\]: just don't take up gardening
Kram [6d\]: aitken i see what your thinking of i think but white has p14 lib too right
]
;W[nb]C[gobugobu [7d\]: ic
aitkensam [-\]: oh true
gobugobu [7d\]: even at my advanced age, I am still to aggressive.
reprisal [3d\]: :)
Kram [6d\]: otherwise white would nto be able to k19 or m19
irongirder: these just trts
loverabbit [2d\]: n
praeludium [5d\]: l19? 
gogonuts [5d\]: garding would be good for him - he can cut the roses
loverabbit [2d\]: n7 all in
gobugobu [7d\]: h18 k18 l19 dies
gobugobu [7d\]: I mean kills
]
;B[hb]C[ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: B has las period of byoyomi
aitkensam [-\]: l18 now?
gobugobu [7d\]: so... l18 makes ko
Blaubaer [6d?\]: n19?
nothinkman [5k\]: n19
]
;W[ep]C[Elitios [6k?\]: n19
Kram [6d\]: so confusing....
aitkensam [-\]: n19 l19 
nothinkman [5k\]: i dont see how is it dead?
Noemis [3d\]: n19 l19 
gobugobu [7d\]: n19, B l19 
gogonuts [5d\]: it is
]
;B[ha]C[gogonuts [5d\]: hm
MiraLime [3d\]: ..
Blaubaer [6d?\]: n19 l19 true
aitkensam [-\]: bye bye ko
]
;W[dq]
;B[dr]
;W[bq]C[praeludium [5d\]: fun
Elitios [6k?\]: hard to see l19 *-*
gogonuts [5d\]: what was b afraid of
]
;B[nm]C[gobugobu [7d\]: h19 maximizes profits.
aitkensam [-\]: c`7 coming up?
aitkensam [-\]: c17*
gogonuts [5d\]: wasnt w dead without it?
]
;W[mm]C[gobugobu [7d\]: he must have an MBA in go.
Artevelde [1d\]: H4
]
;B[bp]
;W[er]C[Artevelde [1d\]: if W L19 without H19?
praeludium [5d\]: n2? c17? 
Cher2 [13k\]: b3
]
;B[fq]C[gobugobu [7d\]: e2 is dangerous
]
;W[bq]C[gogonuts [5d\]: then n19
praeludium [5d\]: hell yeah
gobugobu [7d\]: this will wreck the entire lower side
Draxt [2k\]: f2 ??
]
;B[fr]
;W[cr]C[gobugobu [7d\]: ouchy
gobugobu [7d\]: h3 
]
;B[iq]C[Blaubaer [6d?\]: ops
blob [5k\]: fail
gobugobu [7d\]: ok, j3 is Ok
Backflash [10k\]: game goes to hell =\\
DapperDan [2k\]: white is toast
praeludium [5d\]: w not alive
DapperDan [2k\]: uber fail
jeven [6k?\]: time settings?
praeludium [5d\]: I like b go so much 
]
;W[jq]C[xDragon [-\]: b is in byo yomi is all i know
]
;B[es]C[DapperDan [2k\]: when your best just isn't good enough
DapperDan [2k\]: epic fail
Draxt [2k\]: m5 not alive anymore?
Kanin [-\]: I don't understand H19
]
;W[hr]C[Kanin [-\]: w dead anyway, right?
reprisal [3d\]: no
]
;B[ir]C[Noemis [3d\]: maybe time pressure
DapperDan [2k\]: white's not dead
gobugobu [7d\]: B is ahead by 20 pts
]
;W[hq]
;B[ip]C[gogonuts [5d\]: yes, not needed imo
nothinkman [5k\]: woww
sakanaeio [2d\]: !
Kanin [-\]: reprisal, how to make life?
blob [5k\]: mega kill?
aitkensam [-\]: artem has nice style :p
]
;W[hp]
;B[io]C[DapperDan [2k\]: but he doesn't have any good options
Blaubaer [6d?\]: very tough
nothinkman [5k\]: n4 must lice
gobugobu [7d\]: later, B can still play g1 h1 g2 and make life
Artevelde [1d\]: G1 threat
praeludium [5d\]: ???
Javaness [2d\]: where would chuck norris play?
Elitios [6k?\]: what a shape :D
]
;W[hs]C[Kram [6d\]: in heaven
]
;B[qh]C[DapperDan [2k\]: n2?
Mikinek [3k\]: cmon pisa, show him zlin power :D
irongirder: aretmis doesnt need a 'style'; he can read and reason
]
;W[rh]C[xDragon [-\]: you cna have that corner ill just take everything else
]
;B[sf]C[LordVader [1d\]: doesn't n19 make life ?
gogonuts [5d\]: lol
gobugobu [7d\]: all strong players have a style
]
;W[rm]C[stalkor [7k?\]: yeah i was looking at N19 too
DapperDan [2k\]: woah mega tesuji coming?
LordVader [1d\]: nevermind :)
]
;B[sm]C[LordVader [1d\]: doesn't
reprisal [3d\]: i believe start at l18
Artevelde [1d\]: N19-L19
nothinkman [5k\]: wasnt making sth like n2 and make a big attack better for b?
gobugobu [7d\]: However, they are not bound by it
praeludium [5d\]: irongirder, say me the reason of g9 earlier lol 
xDragon [-\]: artem has a style more people should emulate
DapperDan [2k\]: omg
LordVader [1d\]: indeed )
blob [5k\]: n9 important?
josekin [6k?\]: Killing me softly with this move, killing me softly ....
gogonuts [5d\]: n19 and L19 are miai so h19 not needed
DapperDan [2k\]: this is awesome
Javaness [2d\]: die please
Werfeus [5d\]: gogonuts, it was all about L18
aitkensam [-\]: but k18 gogonuts.
aitkensam [-\]: l*
ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: both players have last priod of byoyomi
ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: period
grendel180 [5k\]: ...
gogonuts [5d\]: k18 L19
]
;W[in]C[xDragon [-\]: w resigns soon then?
DapperDan [2k\]: two we ak pieces
aitkensam [-\]: L*
]
;B[ho]C[praeludium [5d\]: what if w l18, isnt it a ko gogonuts? 
reprisal [3d\]: that's easy ko...
gogonuts [5d\]: w l19 b n19
Zachmura [2d\]: w good at winning lost games
]
;W[go]
;B[hn]C[gogonuts [5d\]: l18 ...
gogonuts [5d\]: didnt look at that
gobugobu [7d\]: l18 k19 n19 
DapperDan [2k\]: white is toast
Zachmura [2d\]: but i guess not good nénough for today
Artevelde [1d\]: J1 sente for ko later
Zachmura [2d\]: *enough
DapperDan [2k\]: no way to win this
praeludium [5d\]: h19 killes the ko
]
;W[db]C[Draxt [2k\]: l18 o19 n19 p19 k18 j19 ?
]
;B[nl]C[DapperDan [2k\]: omg tennuki?
x0000 [1k\]: n6 dead?
praeludium [5d\]: poor white
gogonuts [5d\]: so h19 did prevent ko
gobugobu [7d\]: It's somehow close, but n5 is quite weak
]
;W[qp]C[DapperDan [2k\]: what a strange time to tennuki
]
;B[qo]C[gobugobu [7d\]: s8 is dead now
blob [5k\]: w dies everywhere
Elitios [6k?\]: seriously? dead?
gogonuts [5d\]: after r5 even deader
]
;W[oq]C[Artevelde [1d\]: flying saucer shape
gobugobu [7d\]: If s9 were not dead it would be close
Artevelde [1d\]: see SL
Matt [6k\]: n4 now alive with p3 
]
;B[op]C[krikri [1d\]: i thought its dead after t7
Draxt [2k\]: n4 about to die to
]
;W[nq]
;B[pr]C[DapperDan [2k\]: this could get ugly quick
Kram [6d\]: there is no way for white to win this now  right...?
blob [5k\]: double monkey attack
]
;W[jr]
;B[is]C[bluetable [-\]: weird exchange
Kram [6d\]: of course not counting mistkes : )
Artevelde [1d\]: J1!
Artevelde [1d\]: ko
reprisal [3d\]: mm dead as it stands, that sucks
Firzen [3d\]: nice
gogonuts [5d\]: ouch
irongirder: whatda!
Blaubaer [6d?\]: g1 
]
;W[lr]C[gogonuts [5d\]: b g1 ...
Firzen [3d\]: g4 first seems better
]
;B[cs]C[gogonuts [5d\]: such a pain
FreshTooth [2k\]: b wants double ko
Draxt [2k\]: ho
praeludium [5d\]: ahah c1 takes profit first
ESGC11CZ1 [?\]: B+R
Draxt [2k\]: double ko
Javaness [2d\]: thanks
Noemis [3d\]: thank you
Kram [6d\]: thanks esgc11cz1
Mikinek [3k\]: thx
gogonuts [5d\]: good game
ckrit [7k\]: thanks
Backflash [10k\]: =\\
Blaubaer [6d?\]: thanks ESGC
Kram [6d\]: was fun to watch
praeludium [5d\]: master game
DapperDan [2k\]: g1?
LordVader [1d\]: thanks ESGC11 ;-)
guta [3d\]: brutal
gogonuts [5d\]: p18 turned things around at thetop ...
XhikashiX [16k\]: XD
gogonuts [5d\]: w was looking good there
]))