(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[5400]OT[20/600 Canadian] GN[Czech Go Championship 2012 - board 1, round 7]PW[Tomas Kozelek]PB[Ondrej Silt]WR[4d]BR[6d]DT[2012-10-14]EV[Czech Go Championship 2012 - Kutna Hora]RO[7]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AN[Pulcik] ;B[qd] ;W[dd] ;B[pq] ;W[dp] ;B[fc] ;W[od] ;B[cf] ;W[ee] ;B[cc] ;W[qc] ;B[rc] ;W[pc] ;B[re] ;W[lc] ;B[cd] ;W[qo] ;B[pm] ;W[oo] ;B[np] ;W[lp] ;B[no]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: tournament info: http://goo.gl/W6pUM ] ;W[on] ;B[qp]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Unfortunately we were not able to fix the TV broadcast for last round.:( ] ;W[nn] ;B[ro] ;W[qn] ;B[rn] ;W[qm]C[warIock [6d?\]: Ondrej has basically won this game warIock [6d?\]: Tomas has one win in the tournament? warIock [6d?\]: Which means so long as he wins this game he wins the tournament EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but Tomas beat Simara, so be careful ;) ] ;B[fq]C[warIock [6d?\]: Yeah thats true manofearth [?\]: So. Is THIS a serious game between 2 strong or at leaswt strongish players? HandA [2k?\]: what are their KGS IDs? teacup [?\]: interesting :) how was the game between tomas and simara? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: These two players dont play much here teacup [?\]: m4 seems out of place and right side uninteresting for both now DejMiPivo [?\]: teacup: http://ivan.kostka.sweb.cz/Partie/MR2012/Kozelek-Simara.sgf EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Šimara made ​​a mistake in the end and lost by 1.5 points teacup [?\]: thank you! ] ;W[ip] ;B[dn] ;W[fp]C[laic [1d\]: b looks better, right? manofearth [?\]: sure. but how it looks 2us doesn't mean much manofearth [?\]: anyway b went 1st. appearances tend2 discount komi MadKongo [2d\]: Can someone tell me who is playing? MadKongo [2d\]: Im on mobile Arhiman [2d\]: ondrej silt black Arhiman [2d\]: tomas kozelek white (4d) lam681 [13k?\]: I think this will be exciting MadKongo [2d\]: Thx ] ;B[gp]C[Arhiman [2d\]: I prefer b here, even without considering ranks ] ;W[fo] ;B[cq]C[laic [1d\]: its not only that b went first. w is high everywhere and hope to make points in middle .. ] ;W[eq] ;B[cp]C[kamek [5d\]: I like b's style teacup [?\]: heard ondrej is territory player and w is giving what b wants Snowbars [2d\]: now W have to play f2 ? kamek [5d\]: f2 is the normal move, but..... kamek [5d\]: maybe r14 is more important kamek [5d\]: w has m4 and is thick in the lower side Snowbars [2d\]: ok Snowbars [2d\]: thx kamek [5d\]: maybe kamek [5d\]: I'm not sure kamek [5d\]: not for us to judge teacup [?\]: not so exciting game, nothing to attack, but difficult hanskrens [6k\]: C7? R13? manofearth [?\]: kindof hard2 play f2 when j4 and m4 r already placed kamek [5d\]: q14 important for b Snowbars [2d\]: seems B have already won this game kamek [5d\]: affects w's thickness over the board kamek [5d\]: q14 teacup [?\]: hmm right Snowbars [2d\]: 4 corners kamek [5d\]: so I think w should r14 now to prevent that manofearth [?\]: the center is the prize. present territories just supportive of armies kamek [5d\]: SE says w+45.5 Snowbars [2d\]: W chance is to built central moyo, no more ideas? kamek [5d\]: difficult for w now manofearth [?\]: where is w's territory according2 SE? kamek [5d\]: all over the board Dissolve [4d\]: R14 seems like only move to stay in the game, G5/F2 too slow kamek [5d\]: yeah manofearth [?\]: small groups that r just more numerous and/or bigger by far ] ;W[fr]C[Snowbars [2d\]: why r14? why not q13 for moyo? ] ;B[pg]C[laic [1d\]: O Snowbars [2d\]: oh no chance now for W kamek [5d\]: still too early to say that, but I think b is leading Snowbars [2d\]: I mean if B is 6 dan vs W 4 dan and B is leading then no chance kamek [5d\]: those d's are fake kamek [5d\]: don't care aabout them ] ;W[gd]C[kamek [5d\]: I usually treat them as equal rank laic [1d\]: doesn't look like fake here ... kamek [5d\]: b has 60 points of sure territory+ development on the left side kamek [5d\]: and attacking g16 kamek [5d\]: w has only about 30 points kamek [5d\]: +moyo kamek [5d\]: so I think b is ahead kamek [5d\]: cause I don't see where the moyo is right now with q13 poking out ] ;B[eb] ;W[eh]C[Snowbars [2d\]: l16 ? for B Snowbars [2d\]: to prevent moyo kamek [5d\]: maybe j17 afk [-\]: there is no need to create another group laic [1d\]: so what is your choice for next move afk? kamek [5d\]: j17 ] ;B[dl]C[paddy555 [5k\]: why j 17? kamek [5d\]: to destroy upper side huy [4k\]: let's go thomas paddy555 [5k\]: its undercut and l 16 is a nice point for b i would say left is bigger but then again im 5k :P Dissolve [4d\]: Black keeps adding points to his purse mihi [5d?\]: O13 kamek [5d\]: r11? kamek [5d\]: g17? laic [1d\]: d8 is clean safe and make moyo smaller from outside levye [7k\]: balanced we might say ? :) ] ;W[fl]C[laic [1d\]: nobody guessed f8 .. kamek [5d\]: much more impressive if there is not a stone at q13 Snowbars [2d\]: m5 ? levye [7k\]: i guessed in my mind :) but it didnt seem safe levye [7k\]: does it have weakness or it just looks that way ? paddy555 [5k\]: i think for now its safe but there is aji, it can be cut laic [1d\]: not time for cutting kamek [5d\]: m5? levye [7k\]: wonder if black will keep this push a little and make territory attitude laic [1d\]: b has to find a move to destroy all in safe way paddy555 [5k\]: doesnt have to destroy all ] ;B[pj]C[kamek [5d\]: oh.... kamek [5d\]: I told you that was big afk [-\]: d8/q10 are a declaration of victory laic [1d\]: no you told us m5 p kamek [5d\]: q10 limits w's moyo laic [1d\]: you should guess before move is played. thats how it works . p kamek [5d\]: I guees w o10! afk [-\]: p4 ? ] ;W[nj]C[Hokusai [3k\]: can I see somewhere tha walllist for this competition? thx kamek [5d\]: yeah!!!!!1 kamek [5d\]: yahoo!!!! afk [-\]: time to invade now :-) EuroGoTV1 [-\]: http://goo.gl/W6pUM Hokusai [3k\]: thz eurogo :) kamek [5d\]: n5! ] ;B[mo] ;W[op] ;B[oq]C[Pinguschaf [?\]: how many rounds left? laic [1d\]: whats your official rank kamek? Mipaline [4k?\]: last round Pinguschaf [?\]: thx Mipaline [4k?\]: if Ondrej win he will win the cempetition ] ;W[ln]C[Mipaline [4k?\]: competition Pinguschaf [?\]: n3 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes Trumelunki [3d\]: this moyo looks small and full of holes. Black is solid everywhere... ] ;B[lo] ;W[ko] ;B[mn] ;W[mm] ;B[mq] ;W[nl] ;B[fd] ;W[gf]C[laic [1d\]: look at se ... huy [4k\]: g14 ugly kamek [5d\]: wow se impressive Cromagnon [2k\]: w+57 FFLaguna [1d\]: Hi, everyone Cromagnon [2k\]: thats what white is hoping for FFLaguna [1d\]: w not doing bad Cromagnon [2k\]: whats blacks next move ? FFLaguna [1d\]: Tenuki FFLaguna [1d\]: Play on his opponent's board kamek [5d\]: maybe o13 FFLaguna [1d\]: I mean the board of the person sitting next to him Cromagnon [2k\]: u think so ... hmm ] ;B[mg]C[paddy555 [5k\]: that would actually be interesting, to allow each player to play on either board Cromagnon [2k\]: wow kamek [5d\]: w must o13 igaz [?\]: . Mipaline [4k?\]: but o13 doesnt work Cromagnon [2k\]: why note n 13 ? Cromagnon [2k\]: can white cur or sth Cromagnon [2k\]: cut kamek [5d\]: o13 can cut b ] ;W[og]C[Mipaline [4k?\]: the bottom looks too weak to me for such a cut but I am only 4k :) Mipaline [4k?\]: I mean k16 area ] ;B[of] ;W[oh] ;B[nf] ;W[ph]C[Cromagnon [2k\]: ok thats why 0 13 ] ;B[qg] ;W[qh] ;B[mi]C[Cromagnon [2k\]: wow now Q 10 is weak paddy555 [5k\]: yeah but small area for white Ukasuhs [3d\]: maybe m12 n12 r9 ] ;W[lh] ;B[mh] ;W[oj]C[Mipaline [4k?\]: k17 kamek [5d\]: l4 big ] ;B[ge] ;W[fe] ;B[he] ;W[hf]C[kamek [5d\]: s8 and s12 and l14 all very big kamek [5d\]: oops not l14 I meant l4 ] ;B[ki]C[FFLaguna [1d\]: w starting to look less healthy compared to 20 moves ago ] ;W[ie] ;B[hd] ;W[id] ;B[hc] ;W[ic] ;B[hb]C[SuvorovAl [4k\]: Looks like w resigned soon kamek [5d\]: how would b reply to w s13? kamek [5d\]: s13 powerful move for w GriGriGo [1k\]: was thinking s12 myself but s13 better :-) nidza92 [-\]: s13 q16 kamek [5d\]: .... kamek [5d\]: yeah I suppose GriGriGo [1k\]: q16 s14 ? kamek [5d\]: s13 q16 r14? Mipaline [4k?\]: s13 q15? ] ;W[bl]C[ewqrqw: b10 igaz [?\]: . ] ;B[cl] ;W[bk] ;B[bm]C[Soromon [1d\]: c12, further threatening b15 later ] ;W[ch] ;B[rm]C[kamek [5d\]: s13 soon ] ;W[ql] ;B[kp] ;W[bn] ;B[am] ;W[jo] ;B[kq] ;W[em]C[huy [4k\]: j8aswell ] ;B[cn] ;W[kj] ;B[lj] ;W[kk] ;B[ji] ;W[lk] ;B[ij] ;W[li] ;B[kg] ;W[mj] ;B[jf] ;W[ke] ;B[fj]C[Loop [3k\]: 43 first moves arround 5/5 for w, and now he is nowhere Loop [3k\]: only zen can huy [4k\]: please, win thomas ] ;W[dj] ;B[gk] ;W[lg] ;B[lf] ;W[kf] ;B[kh] ;W[lj]C[ewqrqw: w+r tomason [?\]: how will b live? huy [4k\]: time please? ] ;B[ek]C[Mipaline [4k?\]: e9 connect EuroGoTV1 [-\]: b 30 minutes left, w is now in byoyomi (20stones/10min.) ] ;W[rg] ;B[pd] ;W[qf] ;B[pf]C[ewqrqw: h10 for w to cut k11 huy [4k\]: thx ] ;W[rf] ;B[oc] ;W[ob] ;B[nc] ;W[nb] ;B[nd] ;W[rb] ;B[sb] ;W[qb] ;B[le] ;W[ld]C[kolorek [1d\]: Tomik :D Mipaline [4k?\]: h10 h11 ] ;B[me] ;W[dr] ;B[ck] ;W[bj] ;B[cj] ;W[ci] ;B[fg] ;W[be] ;B[bf] ;W[eg] ;B[df] ;W[gi] ;B[gj] ;W[hi] ;B[kd]C[igaz [?\]: . ] ;W[je] ;B[ik] ;W[ib] ;B[if] ;W[hg] ;B[ih] ;W[ha] ;B[ga] ;W[ia]C[tomason [?\]: w is still not so bad in the game op8n7 [4d\]: doesnt' a 11 kill? afk [-\]: h12 is sente op8n7 [4d\]: tha's it kamek [5d\]: white caught up in territory kamek [5d\]: by a bit kamek [5d\]: j2 big if w doesn't die in the left op8n7 [4d\]: hmm afk [-\]: btw, g19 is a minus if black doesn't defend EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Ondra said a few japanese words, probably not much literary :) kamek [5d\]: do you understand them? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no, I dont mihi [5d?\]: S8 big for white kamek [5d\]: k2 also big for w WWSD [1d\]: k2 or s8 bigger? kamek [5d\]: I don't know zima [2k\]: s9 better? op8n7 [4d\]: s11 s12 s9 Soromon [1d\]: f13 such a beautiful sacrifice counter to b15 afk [-\]: j2 looks bigger ] ;B[ig]C[flippant [?\]: s11 s10? ] ;W[hh] ;B[ei] ;W[fi] ;B[ej]C[ewqrqw: b12 ] ;W[ah]C[ewqrqw: over :( yulia [10k\]: is there no stream? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: not today zima [2k\]: s8 now ] ;B[ir] ;W[rl]C[Caode [9k\]: sorry, who is playing? :) ChoMama [-\]: look above the chat box Caode [9k\]: doesnt work that way on the mobile client. EuroGoTV1 [-\]: b:Ondrej Silt 6d, w:Tomas Kozelek 4d Caode [9k\]: Thank ye kindly. :) ] ;B[gm] ;W[im]C[ewqrqw: a8 Soromon [1d\]: big points at c2, t7, a14 ] ;B[hm]C[Pinguschaf [?\]: funny, it looked like an easy game for black in the opening Pinguschaf [?\]: but im not sure who is leading right now Pinguschaf [?\]: w b2 now ] ;W[il]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: b has byoyomi too zima [2k\]: a14 no good, a8 a10 b13 seems better ] ;B[in] ;W[gq] ;B[jn] ;W[km] ;B[kn] ;W[lm]C[Soromon [1d\]: i think b ahead 5.5 or so ] ;B[io] ;W[iq] ;B[hr] ;W[go] ;B[jp] ;W[qe] ;B[ng] ;W[br] ;B[cr] ;W[cs] ;B[en] ;W[fn] ;B[fm] ;W[gb] ;B[gc] ;W[fa]C[GetStrong [1d\]: t8? ] ;B[bq]C[ewqrqw: d18 GetStrong [1d\]: uh, t8 not cool actually xD Nick8a [1d\]: but d18 is ] ;W[af] ;B[bg] ;W[ag]C[tomason [?\]: error by w? cheater [7d\]: good for w ] ;B[bh]C[cheater [7d\]: actually w could c15 instead of this one ] ;W[bi] ;B[bd]C[cheater [7d\]: w can e16 and start ko cheater [7d\]: this move is really bad ] ;W[ai]C[ewqrqw: w need this ko? ] ;B[mc] ;W[mb] ;B[ea] ;W[ad] ;B[ac] ;W[ae] ;B[ce]C[ewqrqw: e14 ] ;W[dc] ;B[db]C[Killhim [3k?\]: disco is more funny than R'n roll ] ;W[se]C[cheater [7d\]: close game ] ;B[ef] ;W[ff] ;B[dh] ;W[dg] ;B[cg]C[ewqrqw: ...e14 :( Nick8a [1d\]: yea Kwann [5k\]: มาแอบส่อง laic [1d\]: wow a8 a9 f12 ] ;W[di] ;B[fh] ;W[dh]C[cuby [4k?\]: oo ] ;B[al]C[Nick8a [1d\]: no i Nick8a [1d\]: dont work laic [1d\]: work ] ;W[bb]C[laic [1d\]: hmm ewqrqw: if w want to t15, the should play b18 before to check cheater [7d\]: too late, c18 ewqrqw: now is over frogold: it over for white Diedy [4k?\]: a9 laic [1d\]: this is really cool end .. wade [5d\]: it can be or seki or life for both (with points) Javaness [2d\]: maybe the will both die minoru19 [2d\]: i think w is dead ] ;B[ak]C[Nick8a [1d\]: lol java minoru19 [2d\]: w dead ] ;W[cb] ;B[dk]C[zima [2k\]: over cheater [7d\]: d19 maybe grooviest [4k\]: o m g ] ;W[ec] ;B[fb]C[laic [1d\]: game is so long that they should have a dinner break couple of times .. ] ;W[ga] ;B[ab]C[Javaness [2d\]: lol lol lol ] ;W[da]C[afk [-\]: b19 ] ;B[ba]C[laic [1d\]: oo EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B+R EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Ondrej is czech champion 2012!!! davy014 [-\]: clapiclap EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thanks for watching zima [2k\]: b17 probably better than c18 for w? zima [2k\]: could w to alive? laic [1d\]: how laic [1d\]: b17 a10 zima [2k\]: a18 d9 a17 laic [1d\]: c18 zima [2k\]: oh zima [2k\]: dametsumari zima [2k\]: thanks ])