(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[5400]OT[20/600 Canadian]
GN[Czech Go Championship 2012 - board 1, round 5]PW[Jan Prokop]PB[Ondrej Silt]WR[5d]BR[6d]DT[2012-10-13]EV[Czech Go Championship 2012]RO[5]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AN[Pulcik]
;B[qd]C[Damon96 [12k?\]: suspance....
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;W[dc]
;B[de]
;W[dp]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: live videostream: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-Czech
]
;B[fd]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: tournament info: http://goo.gl/W6pUM
]
;W[pp]
;B[qn]
;W[nq]
;B[pk]
;W[nc]
;B[od]
;W[pb]
;B[ld]
;W[nd]
;B[ne]
;W[me]
;B[md]
;W[oe]
;B[nf]
;W[pd]
;B[pe]
;W[oc]
;B[of]
;W[qe]
;B[pf]
;W[rd]
;B[qc]C[TonyTiger [-\]: czech joseki?
]
;W[re]
;B[cn]
;W[fp]C[Babibo [1d\]: the normal joseki is P16 instead of Q14. I guess black wanted sente very much, but the result is much better for white than the joseki
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;B[dk]
;W[ce]
;B[cd]
;W[dd]
;B[cc]
;W[cb]C[tetrian [?\]: how much time do they have?
]
;B[bb]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: b 70 minutes left, w 60 min.
manofearth [?\]: just checkin?
ccsco [1d?\]: I think I prefer W's opening
]
;W[cf]C[manofearth [?\]: toughguy
]
;B[db]
;W[ee]C[ccsco [1d?\]: why didn't W atari at E18 too? leaving it for some other time?
xAmina [3k\]: maybe later?
manofearth [?\]: y doit now?
]
;B[ec]
;W[df]
;B[fe]C[manofearth [?\]: b ATTACKING?
]
;W[ff]
;B[gf]
;W[gg]
;B[fg]
;W[ef]C[awesome [5k\]: somebody has a cold
]
;B[hf]
;W[gh]C[manofearth [?\]: bad keyboard fingers
]
;B[mc]C[ccsco [1d?\]: I guess W chose to take the outside/compromise joseki (top left) as the more common one ends with W extending to about C8, but D9 is in the way
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;W[rc]
;B[ih]
;W[qg]
;B[eh]
;W[ei]
;B[di]
;W[dh]
;B[ch]
;W[dg]
;B[fi]
;W[ej]
;B[dj]
;W[fj]
;B[hq]C[manofearth [?\]: this was b's plan! 
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;W[kq]
;B[gj]C[manofearth [?\]: i'd best shutup and just watch
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: :-) 
awesome [5k\]: comment fields is for comments
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;W[el]C[awesome [5k\]: keep em coming
bfm [-\]: I don't understand g10 
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: I omg a has no eyes
vrnBugatti [19k\]: g11 white
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: white has no eyes
manofearth [?\]: threatens 2 affect d4
ccsco [1d?\]: w does have eyes
ccsco [1d?\]: E16 makes 1 eye in sente
]
;B[fl]C[Nezumi8 [10k?\]: No, I mean d15 can be removed
]
;W[ek]C[TurtleDove [5k\]: maybe helping his h5 play too
]
;B[em]
;W[dl]
;B[cl]
;W[dm]
;B[dn]C[ccsco [1d?\]: oh, if B goes there first yes
]
;W[fm]
;B[en]C[vrnBugatti [19k\]: g11 
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;W[gl]C[Nezumi8 [10k?\]: on cell it's a pain to be specific
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;B[cm]
;W[fk]
;B[gk]
;W[fl]
;B[hl]
;W[hm]
;B[fn]
;W[gm]C[awesome [5k\]: mighty dango
]
;B[im]C[Magogo [2d\]: nice shape
ccsco [1d?\]: I don't think w's heavy centre group is doing much for him
awesome [5k\]: b may gain a lot though
yinon [9k\]: who is B on kgs??
vrnBugatti [19k\]: safe withe stone g11 
ccsco [1d?\]: B is Ondrej Silt, 6d
Pinguschaf [?\]: i admire Ondrej´s Go
yinon [9k\]: thats hillarious... and kgs account?
ccsco [1d?\]: what's hilarious?
itsmeherve [15k\]: I'm confused as to what is hilarious
yinon [9k\]: its very very funny... like u
]
;W[hn]C[ak1ra [13k\]: cocky
itsmeherve [15k\]: Can we kick this egg yolk?
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: lol herve
Aikwan [8k\]: k9 i suppose now ...
Aikwan [8k\]: or 8
ak1ra [13k\]: can anybody explain why didnt white play g 11
toko [2k?\]: who is white? sry, can't see on mobile..
Laman [2d\]: Jan Prokop 5d
toko [2k?\]: thanks
Aikwan [8k\]: not needed ... so he uses it to create weakness for black 
ccsco [1d?\]: the kgs mobile app doesn't show player names? o_o
awesome [5k\]: b wants center moyo in sente I think, 
ak1ra [13k\]: ok
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: g11 slow
Pinguschaf [?\]: i thought h5
ak1ra [13k\]: ok
manofearth [?\]: it might be funny if I believed I understood exactly what was going on and how each move affected the balance of its specific elements
toko [2k?\]: for demonstration games, the names don't appear, for others it's ok
ccsco [1d?\]: strange
TurtleDove [5k\]: are there still no names shown on a tablet ?
manofearth [?\]: btw. what r they demonstrating?
ccsco [1d?\]: Czech Go Championship 2012, board 1, round 5
ccsco [1d?\]: they're relaying the game
manofearth [?\]: y callit a demonstration?
TurtleDove [5k\]: KGS game type
manofearth [?\]: if it in fact a championship battle
awesome [5k\]: j6 looks thin but kind of logical
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: that's the kgs game type. mobile is too slow
itsmeherve [15k\]: How much time do the players have?
vrnBugatti [19k\]: 90
TurtleDove [5k\]: h5 j6 g5 might be sente against the corner but centre affected if not
awesome [5k\]: then just g5 direct
PabloRR [19k\]: thats crazy
awesome [5k\]: lol
itsmeherve [15k\]: B G11?
itsmeherve [15k\]: Nm
]
;B[eq]
;W[fq]C[awesome [5k\]: this more natural
ak1ra [13k\]: what is the taste in go
]
;B[fr]C[ak1ra [13k\]: what does taste means
Pinguschaf [?\]: q12 is quite big, too
]
;W[ep]C[Nezumi8 [10k?\]: aji or taste is a lingering potential
ak1ra [13k\]: ok i see
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: a defect to minor to fix right away, but enough for your opponent to exploit later
TurtleDove [5k\]: typically, seemingly dead stones might still enable some threats
manofearth [?\]: maybe.
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: You can get forcing moves by threatening to connect
ak1ra [13k\]: yeah
ak1ra [13k\]: thanks
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: no prob Bob
bengali: u can put salt on go
manofearth [?\]: not just corpses. all positions with options retain aji; which diminishes as the game progresses.
]
;B[dr]C[Nezumi8 [10k?\]: I only put salt on baduk
Woodstock [-\]: hi people
manofearth [?\]: ususally areferenced aji  r specific options
Woodstock [-\]: who's playing?
itsmeherve [15k\]: I put salt on snails
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: no you monster
itsmeherve [15k\]: j/k
]
;W[go]C[Pinguschaf [?\]: b: ondrej silt, w: jan prokop
Woodstock [-\]: I'm using kgs android so i can't see the names
]
;B[gi]
;W[fh]
;B[il]C[Woodstock [-\]: thank you ^^
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: this isn't the 80s! You can't say things like that! 
manofearth [?\]: u can kill bad aji with salt. but the salt might kill ur overall game. likke making a slack corrective move
Woodstock [-\]: servus übrigens!
]
;W[pj]
;B[oj]C[Pinguschaf [?\]: servus
]
;W[pi]C[Matula [1k\]: the squeeze of w put b ahead
Pinguschaf [?\]: wow white is helping making black territory
]
;B[oi]
;W[qk]C[TurtleDove [5k\]: servus charge included
bengali: playing fast suddenly
bengali: how long do they have still ?
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: does helping make territory cause future moves in the middle to become small?  
]
;B[ql]C[awesome [5k\]: looks like 35 and 40 minutes on the video
bengali: b greedy
]
;W[oh]
;B[nh]
;W[le]C[Woodstock [-\]: white looking for magic
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: maybe white is just trying to up the stakes in the middle
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes, b 35, w 40
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: create some cut points
manofearth [?\]: this is a probe/test/challenge
TurtleDove [5k\]: just L16. defy W to live
awesome [5k\]: this is where I tend to mess up when I have a moyo
K5 [1k\]: B needs be careful with o11 aji
]
;B[ke]
;W[mb]
;B[kc]C[Woodstock [-\]: L17
Uberdude [4d?\]: m6 or so later?
]
;W[rl]C[Bauer [1k\]: q8
Woodstock [-\]: M6 doesn't look like enough
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: is that a probe? 
]
;B[pl]C[Woodstock [-\]: white is too far behind and needs to reduce more, right?
awesome [5k\]: corner looks inviting
Pinguschaf [?\]: but n18 was quite a gain
awesome [5k\]: (for b)
Pinguschaf [?\]: but yeah w is still quite behind
manofearth [?\]: it was. but not an enormous one
tontonken [5k\]: That is a gigantic influence.....
]
;W[dq]
;B[er]
;W[cr]
;B[jr]
;W[kr]
;B[jq]
;W[rm]C[awesome [5k\]: r3
Uberdude [4d?\]: p6 is nice and safe
Uberdude [4d?\]: there is p9 cut
Uberdude [4d?\]: r3 a bit greedy perhaps
awesome [5k\]: ok :)
Uberdude [4d?\]: probably can give w corner and win
Uberdude [4d?\]: black has b4 afterwards too
K5 [1k\]: Something like N7 enough?
bengali: leaves some space
]
;B[ph]
;W[rj]
;B[on]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: =)
Uberdude [4d?\]: so is k3 alive?
]
;W[lm]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: maye w can use that to help go in further to m7 or more
manofearth [?\]: we'll find out soon now
bengali: m6
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: you were right
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: seems a little late
jole [3k\]: beautifl m7
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: you would know better than I :)
TurtleDove [5k\]: be bold, play m5
Woodstock [-\]: if white can reduce in sente and get the lr corner, it'll be close
bengali: sounds like a lot to do
]
;B[qh]
;W[rh]C[Bauer [1k\]: b leads a lot
Uberdude [4d?\]: l4 or m6 maybe
Mech91 [2k\]: r3 close the game
]
;B[ri]
;W[si]
;B[qi]
;W[qj]
;B[pg]C[awesome [5k\]: nice
Uberdude [4d?\]: gote
Uberdude [4d?\]: s4?
awesome [5k\]: is it?
Mech91 [2k\]: s5
]
;W[rg]C[Mech91 [2k\]: r3
Woodstock [-\]: S13 would be a big sente if white plays tenuki
Uberdude [4d?\]: s4 s13 s6 
Uberdude [4d?\]: i tihnk w gains more
anarchie [-\]: p16
anarchie [-\]: P16 it s a good move?
jole [3k\]: p16 q17
]
;B[lk]C[K5 [1k\]: s4 could have been good
bengali: b peaceful
]
;W[kb]C[Mech91 [2k\]: r3 is right in the corner for black
]
;B[jb]
;W[lb]C[awesome [5k\]: now
anarchie [-\]: m17
manofearth [?\]: sure it lives......
Mech91 [2k\]: suicide
manofearth [?\]: ??
anarchie [-\]: k16
Vorga [2k\]: j17
]
;B[qq]C[Mech91 [2k\]: :)
Uberdude [4d?\]: can tenuki
manofearth [?\]: hwg!
Uberdude [4d?\]: at most w has clamp
TheThe [8k\]: corner works?
Woodstock [-\]: game over
Mech91 [2k\]: yep
Uberdude [4d?\]: actually
]
;W[qp]
;B[pq]C[anarchie [-\]: R4
Uberdude [4d?\]: s4 hane connect not really sente
anarchie [-\]: s3
Mech91 [2k\]: mmmm
Mech91 [2k\]: i was think s4 for black
Mech91 [2k\]: wa live surely
Uberdude [4d?\]: if b s4 s5 s3 q3 
Uberdude [4d?\]: then that corner is a ko
]
;W[oq]
;B[rp]C[Uberdude [4d?\]: now this is alive
Uberdude [4d?\]: due to p4 cut
anarchie [-\]: s5
]
;W[ro]
;B[rq]C[Woodstock [-\]: no choice for w
]
;W[qo]
;B[or]C[Bookish [1d\]: game over
]
;W[nr]
;B[pr]C[Bookish [1d\]: black seems way ahead
]
;W[jc]C[TheThe [8k\]: croner sealed the victory it seems
Woodstock [-\]: looking for a place to resign
K5 [1k\]: Simply J18?
wolokom [5k\]: my way
Vorga [2k\]: even without cut it would be alive
Baal1 [5k\]: really?
Uberdude [4d?\]: how vorga?
Vorga [2k\]: yq2 r2 p2 s6 
K5 [1k\]: What is w up to here? I feel like I'm missing something
]
;B[ib]
;W[jd]
;B[kd]
;W[hc]C[Vorga [2k\]: b play t4  and then t2
Uberdude [4d?\]: oh yes
Baal1 [5k\]: thx vorga
TurtleDove [5k\]: W still has e18 and f17 ?
]
;B[hb]
;W[eb]
;B[ca]C[Naab [7k?\]: f17 isn't good ;E
igosensei [4d\]: f17 is good
Mech91 [2k\]: yep
Mech91 [2k\]: and g16
igosensei [4d\]: black can give up anyway
Mech91 [2k\]: after f177
Mech91 [2k\]: g17 black i think
igosensei [4d\]: still easy win
wolokom [5k\]: no too early
Mech91 [2k\]: f17*
]
;W[gc]C[lbc [-\]: f17 e16 g17 
wolokom [5k\]: g17 and fine
awesome [5k\]: b can afford to give a little
manofearth [?\]: not this much
TurtleDove [5k\]: all because he played L15 instead of L16 
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: maybe W would have invaded or something if L16
cherisse [-\]: j17
manofearth [?\]: but what might have played the center diffently after l16
TurtleDove [5k\]: how ?
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: yeah
TurtleDove [5k\]: suggest a move
Nezumi8 [10k?\]: i got nothing :)
wolokom [5k\]: k 15
manofearth [?\]: i dont know. did u c THis sequence?
Pingu007 [2d\]: g17?
wolokom [5k\]: g 17 ßßßßßß
wolokom [5k\]: k 15 and hope
huy [4k\]: f17 the best aswer for me
TurtleDove [5k\]: well B still has m5 or so after this
x0000 [-\]: k15  seems ok
]
;B[fc]
;W[kf]C[Pingu007 [2d\]: i meant g18 sorry
wolokom [5k\]: yes but now w gets what he want
TheThe [8k\]: is there a plan here or just desperation?
Pingu007 [2d\]: what does he get ?
LeT [-\]: plan is to capture
Pingu007 [2d\]: i know but i didnt see how
Pingu007 [2d\]: i begin to see how now
Vorga [2k\]: lol
Pingu007 [2d\]: in fact k15 looks ok for b
TheThe [8k\]: so l14 makes k16 stronger in the chase so that it can connect with h17 and then capture the black
cherisse [-\]: so dubios, does it work? o_O
]
;B[lf]
;W[gb]C[Fiktik [?\]: omg
TheThe [8k\]: it does now
Fiktik [?\]: why not k15
Pingu007 [2d\]: strange
igosensei [4d\]: k15 is bad
Vorga [2k\]: cn b still win?
Pingu007 [2d\]: now b cant save his stones can he?
]
;B[ic]C[Pingu007 [2d\]: ah
igosensei [4d\]: k15,j15,k14,j14,g15
huy [4k\]: yes
Pingu007 [2d\]: looks ok
igosensei [4d\]: black is ok so far
cherisse [-\]: seems so 
huy [4k\]: this is what i saw wqith f17!!! great
cherisse [-\]: nice :)
]
;W[he]C[wolokom [5k\]: very fine 
Liso66 [?\]: wohohooo
TheThe [8k\]: now w will take his time to max the benefits
igosensei [4d\]: k15
Pingu007 [2d\]: j16
igosensei [4d\]: white had to play rhere first
borsuk94 [2k\]: f18
Vorga [2k\]: i still want b win. that would be fair
Fiktik [?\]: k15 still works for black, right?
TheThe [8k\]: k15 k15 k15 
Fiktik [?\]: k15 j16 h16 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: b in byoyomi (20stones/10minutes)
K5 [1k\]: Hmmm, H16 thinkable??
wolokom [5k\]: b j grupe  seems to be dead
cherisse [-\]: k17 j16 throw in
wolokom [5k\]: or l
Fiktik [?\]: I see black winning this semeai
]
;B[je]C[gorga [1k\]: h16 throw in
huy [4k\]: h16 was better
klauperi [2k\]: g15
huy [4k\]: h16 instead k15 was a good timing
gorga [1k\]: f18?
itsmeherve [15k\]: H16 right?
Pingu007 [2d\]: f18 g15
]
;W[fb]C[K5 [1k\]: H16?
antipanda [6k\]: h16 still possible
igosensei [4d\]: I guess w's looking for a place to resign
]
;B[ge]C[wolokom [5k\]: seems better
Mech91 [2k\]: not work
Mech91 [2k\]: W die
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: B+R
huy [4k\]: h16 not work anymore he should play it before k15
Uberdude [4d?\]: good reading from b
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thanks for watching
Fiktik [?\]: thans euro
cherisse [-\]: gg
abdafuehr [6k?\]: thx €
wolokom [5k\]: yes 
itsmeherve [15k\]: It's over?
])