(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[5400]OT[20/600 Canadian]
GN[Czech Championship 2012 - round 3, board 4]PW[Jan Šimara]PB[Bronislav Snídal]WR[6d]BR[2d]DT[2012-10-12]EV[Czech Championship 2012]RO[3]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]WT[Slovan Karlovy Vary]BT[Brno]AN[Ondřej Dlouhý]
;B[pd]
;W[dp]
;B[pq]
;W[dd]
;B[fq]
;W[dn]
;B[ip]
;W[pn]
;B[on]
;W[oo]
;B[po]
;W[no]
;B[pm]
;W[pp]C[Pizon [1k\]: looks better for w
]
;B[qn]
;W[qo]
;B[pn]
;W[qp]C[idontcare [7d\]: actually 
idontcare [7d\]: w instead of 45, usually atari at q4
idontcare [7d\]: o5*
idontcare [7d\]: Brona should cut
idontcare [7d\]: now
idontcare [7d\]: bq7 was good:)
essential [3k\]: maybe someone in here can help explain to me the difference between a 3k and a 7d :D
essential [3k\]: it seems no one is able to ;o
]
;B[op]C[idontcare [7d\]: y:)
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;W[qq]C[essential [3k\]: I'm of the opinion that there actually is no difference between a 3k and a 7d ;o
OggMbMb [2d\]: :))
sum [4d\]: that's why ur 3k
essential [3k\]: I don't care about why I'm 3k
essential [3k\]: I care about why one person has a 7d next to his name and another person has a 3k next to his name
]
;B[nq]C[essential [3k\]: it makes no sense -.-
]
;W[mq]C[idontcare [7d\]: b could and i think should have connected at p3
]
;B[mr]
;W[lq]C[essential [3k\]: p3 makes more sense
essential [3k\]: no good way to fix this shape it seems
]
;B[lr]
;W[np]
;B[oq]
;W[pr]
;B[or]
;W[os]
;B[nr]
;W[kq]
;B[qr]
;W[rr]C[essential [3k\]: surprising
essential [3k\]: I figured white would've just l3'd
]
;B[ps]
;W[rn]C[essential [3k\]: this seems less than beneficial
momiji [3d\]: w seems overeager, nervous, making very thin shapes...
Mech91 [2k\]: mmmm
essential [3k\]: he should'nt've o4'd
essential [3k\]: o4 only hurts r3
Mech91 [2k\]: s1
Xiangqi [2k\]: so im rooting for Bronislav
Xiangqi [2k\]: cause he has a cool name
Xiangqi [2k\]: which one is he?
]
;B[rm]C[essential [3k\]: black
Mech91 [2k\]: s1-s2-s3
Xiangqi [2k\]: gooo black!
Mech91 [2k\]: s1-t2*
essential [3k\]: hardly
essential [3k\]: s1s7 
Mech91 [2k\]: s1 now
essential [3k\]: black can ignore s1
Mech91 [2k\]: nope
essential [3k\]: s1 s5 
Mech91 [2k\]: ryski
essential [3k\]: black has the advantage here
OggMbMb [2d\]: s1 t4 mb?
essential [3k\]: not risky at all
essential [3k\]: t4 works -.-
essential [3k\]: point is black doesnt have to defend p2
]
;W[sn]C[eurogotv4 [-\]: Xiangqi [2k\]: http://jdem.cz/whcf9
Xiangqi [2k\]: thanks. awesome link
Mech91 [2k\]: this 2d is a killer
essential [3k\]: black originall made a mistake with o3
essential [3k\]: and then white o4'd and hurt his corner
Mech91 [2k\]: even a 6d it would be awesome
essential [3k\]: t4 with impunity
Xiangqi [2k\]: t4 looks like the spot
Mech91 [2k\]: s1
Mech91 [2k\]: to sente
Xiangqi [2k\]: thats what im trying to read. very difficult for me
essential [3k\]: s1 t4 
Mech91 [2k\]: yep
Mech91 [2k\]: is already alive
Mech91 [2k\]: or ko but
OggMbMb [2d\]: black have t2, but mb not now
Mech91 [2k\]: black play nt ko noow
Mech91 [2k\]: indeed
Xiangqi [2k\]: so the big question is can b t4 and win this fight or does he have to play s1 and just live
essential [3k\]: black can t4
Xiangqi [2k\]: it doesnt look so simple to me
Mech91 [2k\]: t4 semms live
Xiangqi [2k\]: im starting to really agree
essential [3k\]: I do have 8d level reading
Mech91 [2k\]: t4 is alive
Xiangqi [2k\]: but to you thats the same as 3d reading :-D
essential [3k\]: not like it matters, cause I can't apply it to my games -.-
]
;B[sp]
;W[rp]C[essential [3k\]: finally
ozjohn [5k\]: your reading is 11 stones above your rating!?
essential [3k\]: yes
Mech91 [2k\]: see it
Mech91 [2k\]: max ko
]
;B[sq]
;W[sr]C[idontcare [7d\]: t4 is a mistake
idontcare [7d\]: which lets w live 
Mech91 [2k\]: :)
Xiangqi [2k\]: really what is the right move?
Mech91 [2k\]: finally
Mech91 [2k\]: a high dan
idontcare [7d\]: locally 
idontcare [7d\]: similar to s1
Mech91 [2k\]: yep
Mech91 [2k\]: maximum was ko
]
;B[rs]C[OggMbMb [2d\]: aw
essential [3k\]: this is strange
OggMbMb [2d\]: why not t5
]
;W[so]C[idontcare [7d\]: at b t4
essential [3k\]: why not t7 -.-
Mech91 [2k\]: obvious which black take advantage from this poosition
Mech91 [2k\]: not work
OggMbMb [2d\]: t7 s3
Xiangqi [2k\]: this is still nice for b. no kill but he lives with sente
OggMbMb [2d\]: but what if t5
]
;B[ko]C[idontcare [7d\]: b t2 followed by w s1, b t4, w s4, bt7, ws5
essential [3k\]: s3 s1
Mech91 [2k\]: t5
Mech91 [2k\]: 2 eyes
OggMbMb [2d\]: s3 s1 t5 lives
OggMbMb [2d\]: yep
idontcare [7d\]: w t2 in this figure was a mistake
Mech91 [2k\]: white is in trouble
idontcare [7d\]: must be at s3
Xiangqi [2k\]: i just looked at that looks like b still kills right?
idontcare [7d\]: w lives
Mech91 [2k\]: n3 you mean?
idontcare [7d\]: here in this figure b could have played t5
Xiangqi [2k\]: ohhh i see
Mech91 [2k\]: s5 is a eye
idontcare [7d\]: strange to see mistakes in his corner by w
]
;W[lo]C[idontcare [7d\]: i mean 1 mistake, but big
]
;B[ln]
;W[mn]C[Xiangqi [2k\]: It's the Czech championship. Not the Korean ;-)
idontcare [7d\]: finally b t4 has the same meanin as b s1
Mech91 [2k\]: maybe he may have underestimated this 2d
]
;B[kn]C[idontcare [7d\]: European Champion ust mistook
idontcare [7d\]: j*
]
;W[ml]C[idontcare [7d\]: but b makin the corner ive with either t4 or s1 may also be questionable
idontcare [7d\]: @move39
Mech91 [2k\]: see 2d at final would be strange
idontcare [7d\]: it' s a ound-robin system here
idontcare [7d\]: r
eurogotv4 [-\]: robin round, 7 rounds
Mech91 [2k\]: what is that?
idontcare [7d\]: all play all
Mech91 [2k\]: ok thank
Mech91 [2k\]: yes but he have already beaten a 4d and now this 6d is in trouble, make think
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;B[pj]C[eurogotv4 [-\]: See this link: http://jdem.cz/whcm3
Xiangqi [2k\]: white seems like hes probably ok. 
idontcare [7d\]: i just wanted to say 'at final' sounds strange inthi system
idontcare [7d\]: in this*
Xiangqi [2k\]: all this took place in a corner where B played first. he's supposed to come out a bit better
]
;W[nj]
;B[kp]
;W[lm]
;B[nm]
;W[mm]
;B[jl]
;W[oh]
;B[qh]
;W[kj]
;B[cl]C[Xiangqi [2k\]: now thats a fun move
]
;W[di]
;B[el]
;W[fp]
;B[er]C[gaspard0 [2d\]: b already has one non settled group in center, why is he making second one now?
idontcare [7d\]: t4 lost a point compared to t4
]
;W[dr]C[SImikin [3k\]: brona brona :)
idontcare [7d\]: compared to s1
idontcare [7d\]: that's why s1 is usually better than t4
idontcare [7d\]: (if b wants w to live anyway)
Mech91 [2k\]: d3
]
;B[dq]
;W[cq]
;B[eq]
;W[ep]
;B[cr]
;W[br]
;B[ds]
;W[bp]
;B[fc]C[gaspard0 [2d\]: about the corner, wasnt s3 the correct move to make a ko?
gaspard0 [2d\]: t2 dont work
]
;W[cf]
;B[db]
;W[dk]
;B[dl]
;W[gl]C[idontcare [7d\]: s3 make a two-stage ko
idontcare [7d\]: and t2 works
gaspard0 [2d\]: yeahi thought b would cut at s3 after t2 but just t4 hehe
idontcare [7d\]: even b t2, ws1, bs3 is better than b s3 probably
idontcare [7d\]: because then it's a direct ko
idontcare [7d\]: but white's turn to take
gaspard0 [2d\]: nah w can t4 after that s3
idontcare [7d\]: ah, ok
gaspard0 [2d\]: b cant play r1 because of p1
gaspard0 [2d\]: thats what confused me
idontcare [7d\]: in this case
idontcare [7d\]: my mistake
idontcare [7d\]: i didn't even consider b s3 at any time
idontcare [7d\]: :)
gaspard0 [2d\]: yeah two kinds of ko possible but only one direct one
idontcare [7d\]: all in all, w 2-p1 seems so be forcing 
]
;B[gm]C[idontcare [7d\]: q2-p1
idontcare [7d\]: they made balck hane at s1:)
gaspard0 [2d\]: but thats pretty useful corner shape to know
idontcare [7d\]: a classic
idontcare [7d\]: yet w t2 could be the losing move
idontcare [7d\]: if b t5
]
;W[fm]
;B[fl]
;W[gk]C[gaspard0 [2d\]: yeah shaky start for w but now its looking better. b falling apart
idontcare [7d\]: still a long way to go
]
;B[bi]C[gaspard0 [2d\]: b12 possible?
Mech91 [2k\]: surely but black sente and live whit c6 i think
gaspard0 [2d\]: could be, a bit hard to read
]
;W[fn]C[Mech91 [2k\]: indeeed white make down XD
Mech91 [2k\]: b6
Mech91 [2k\]: b13 maybe
gaspard0 [2d\]: i like this w move, b cant get out easily anyway even with second move
Mech91 [2k\]: e10 even?
idontcare [7d\]: w is aiming at h3 too
gaspard0 [2d\]: can it cut?
Mech91 [2k\]: surely cut
idontcare [7d\]: y
gaspard0 [2d\]: ah yeah b cant just k3
]
;B[bg]C[Mech91 [2k\]: :)
]
;W[fd]
;B[gc]
;W[bk]
;B[ck]
;W[bj]
;B[cj]
;W[ci]
;B[ch]
;W[ai]C[idontcare [7d\]: ?
idontcare [7d\]: no real need for this atari
gaspard0 [2d\]: h3 is not clear cut though, it has some complications
]
;B[bh]
;W[bl]C[idontcare [7d\]: mostly for black
idontcare [7d\]: but this cut on the left is also quite a happening
gaspard0 [2d\]: yeah
Namii [7d\]: if the European Champion played t2 I don't feel so bad anymore for making a mistake in that L&D once myself
gaspard0 [2d\]: haha
idontcare [7d\]: w f16,a11 maybe one plan
Namii [7d\]: Except, I was black, trying to kill, and my opponent responded correctly at s3
idontcare [7d\]: b probably has to push at d 12 anyway
gaspard0 [2d\]: did you play t4 too as b?
Namii [7d\]: Yes
gaspard0 [2d\]: aw that sucks
idontcare [7d\]: problem wit t4 as i mentioned
idontcare [7d\]: compared to s1 it lose a point
idontcare [7d\]: s1 can be reasonable to make b alive completely on the lower side
idontcare [7d\]: bu i wanted to see Brona hit m5 instead
idontcare [7d\]: trying to set up some ko material 
idontcare [7d\]: :)
]
;B[bm]
;W[bn]C[idontcare [7d\]: f16 nicely timed:)
gaspard0 [2d\]: didnt quite happen, got much more boring result
Namii [7d\]: Yeah, no need to deal with the corner yet, since all b groups were alive
idontcare [7d\]: b cannot e 12
gaspard0 [2d\]: well b is in serious trouble here, cant prevent w from cutting
idontcare [7d\]: he has to give up
idontcare [7d\]: and push 
gaspard0 [2d\]: d12?
idontcare [7d\]: y
idontcare [7d\]: so it will finally come back to h3
gaspard0 [2d\]: yeah maybe but thats ouch
Mech91 [2k\]: e11
cambodia [9k\]: B e10?
Mech91 [2k\]: noe
]
;B[fj]C[Mech91 [2k\]: mmmm
gaspard0 [2d\]: well b loses something anyway
idontcare [7d\]: better to give up the left?
Mech91 [2k\]: e11 semms better i think
idontcare [7d\]: make f16-g17 a loss
gaspard0 [2d\]: looks bad which ever group b gives up
idontcare [7d\]: but with and unsettled group
idontcare [7d\]: it will be difficult to attack w 's centre group
]
;W[dh]C[gaspard0 [2d\]: dead weight group in center so w can do whatever he wants
Mech91 [2k\]: g10
]
;B[cm]
;W[am]C[idontcare [7d\]: anyway now b13 is a clear loss
idontcare [7d\]: bigger than w f16
gaspard0 [2d\]: yeah
]
;B[gj]
;W[ik]C[gaspard0 [2d\]: h3 next will hurt
gaspard0 [2d\]: after this is done
Mech91 [2k\]: f13
]
;B[gg]
;W[fh]
;B[gh]
;W[gd]
;B[ce]C[Mech91 [2k\]: want to play a reading battle with 6d?
]
;W[bf]C[cambodia [9k\]: d13
Mech91 [2k\]: h16
idontcare [7d\]: b could ask a8
idontcare [7d\]: probably better before
idontcare [7d\]: before c15
idontcare [7d\]: to create a ko-liberty
idontcare [7d\]: even now w woul probably take it
Liso66 [?\]: what about h3? when will be good time for it? 
]
;B[de]
;W[ef]C[idontcare [7d\]: soon
]
;B[al]
;W[ak]C[idontcare [7d\]: cool
idontcare [7d\]: Brona asked:)
]
;B[ee]C[gaspard0 [2d\]: f14 incoming
gaspard0 [2d\]: ?
Namii [7d\]: a8 is a good move, but why are you referring to it as a "question" ^^
idontcare [7d\]: w already could theoreticaly compromise and play c13
Namii [7d\]: I feel like F14, since c8 is still weak
Namii [7d\]: b can play a heavy ko then if he wants to
idontcare [7d\]: i mean to b a8
Namii [7d\]: ah
]
;W[ff]C[idontcare [7d\]: now, of course w doesn't mean to go back
]
;B[be]C[idontcare [7d\]: but b should ask a 12 before this
gaspard0 [2d\]: yes
idontcare [7d\]: probably there's no uestion here either
]
;W[cg]
;B[hd]C[gaspard0 [2d\]: now theres no aji left
Namii [7d\]: That way there's ko aji
]
;W[he]
;B[id]C[gaspard0 [2d\]: too bad b misses the small things
]
;W[ie]C[gaspard0 [2d\]: should be pretty much downhill from here
Namii [7d\]: b has played well, so to justify his 2d rank, he must play inefficiently at some places :-)
]
;B[jg]C[gaspard0 [2d\]: but why did he play a8 if he didnt have it in mind to a12?
]
;W[je]C[gaspard0 [2d\]: thats whats strange
idontcare [7d\]: indeed
idontcare [7d\]: b a12 was consistent
idontcare [7d\]: and a bit persistent 
eurogotv4 [-\]: Black in byoyomi
]
;B[jk]
;W[jj]
;B[hj]C[gaspard0 [2d\]: now its over fast
gaspard0 [2d\]: w has time to think and b very little
]
;W[il]
;B[lg]
;W[ed]
;B[cc]
;W[eb]C[idontcare [7d\]: it would be much more fun with a ko-connection at a14 left
gaspard0 [2d\]: yep
gaspard0 [2d\]: w planning for h17 cut
klausP [4d?\]: f18 possible too
gaspard0 [2d\]: or just wants to see if he needs to add another move there
]
;B[fb]
;W[ec]
;B[ea]
;W[jd]
;B[nc]
;W[hc]
;B[ic]
;W[hb]C[gaspard0 [2d\]: maybe resign time now
]
;B[bb]C[gaspard0 [2d\]: g19 next for w and done
]
;W[hq]C[idontcare [7d\]: w k16 was sente
Mech91 [2k\]: this is it
]
;B[jq]C[gaspard0 [2d\]: well fun we get to see capturing race here probably
gaspard0 [2d\]: k2, l2, j3, k4, j2 follows?
]
;W[gr]C[gaspard0 [2d\]: nvm
gaspard0 [2d\]: haha
gaspard0 [2d\]: n4 captures all
]
;B[gq]C[idontcare [7d\]: g3 is bad
idontcare [7d\]: b should cut from upstairs
cambodia [9k\]: h4
]
;W[hp]C[idontcare [7d\]: aim at the centre w group somehow
idontcare [7d\]: g3 seems to be the final nail in the coffin
gaspard0 [2d\]: now its hopeless
gaspard0 [2d\]: cant cut cant do anything
]
;B[jr]
;W[pf]
;B[ni]
;W[oi]
;B[oj]
;W[mh]
;B[qf]
;W[kh]
;B[ij]
;W[jm]
;B[qe]C[idontcare [7d\]: w shouls fix at j2
idontcare [7d\]: or just go fo the center
]
;W[mc]
;B[jh]
;W[oc]
;B[pc]
;W[nb]
;B[nd]
;W[pb]
;B[od]
;W[ob]
;B[qb]
;W[qi]
;B[qj]
;W[ql]
;B[rl]
;W[pi]
;B[ri]
;W[rj]
;B[rk]
;W[rh]
;B[sj]
;W[qg]
;B[rg]
;W[ph]
;B[sh]
;W[ir]
;B[ng]
;W[nh]
;B[lc]
;W[lb]
;B[md]
;W[mb]
;B[ib]
;W[ld]
;B[ha]
;W[qa]
;B[cn]
;W[co]
;B[rb]C[idontcare [7d\]: there was no need for compromise
idontcare [7d\]: w g19 worked
]
;W[dj]
;B[le]
;W[kc]
;B[lh]
;W[li]
;B[ho]
;W[gp]
;B[nk]
;W[mj]
;B[nn]
;W[mo]
;B[fg]
;W[im]
;B[fk]
;W[io]
;B[in]
;W[hn]
;B[jo]
;W[go]
;B[hl]
;W[hk]C[eurogotv4 [-\]: Black resign
])