(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[15/300 Canadian]
PW[Chi-min Oh]PB[In-seong Hwang]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2009-07-18]EV[Moyo Open 2009]RO[4]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
;B[pd]
;W[dd]
;B[pq]
;W[dp]
;B[fq]
;W[cn]
;B[ip]
;W[qn]
;B[po]
;W[rp]
(;B[ql])
(;B[pl]
;W[pn]
;B[on]C[PGEC09CZ [?\]: a jedem ...
Pulcik [-\]: Jano, poslala mi Jana vysledky?:)
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;W[qq]
;B[pr]
;W[om]
;B[nn]
;W[pm]
;B[ql]
;W[pi]C[PGEC09CZ [?\]: jj
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;B[qo]
;W[ro]
;B[rm]
;W[rn]
;B[oj]C[Pulcik [-\]: hmm, furt nic nedoslo :(
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;W[pj]C[PGEC09CZ [?\]: mailem
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;B[ol]
;W[nm]
;B[mn]
;W[rk]
;B[oi]C[Pulcik [-\]: je to tu :)
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;W[ph]
;B[ll]
;W[qf]
;B[nd]
;W[kq]
;B[jq]
;W[jo]C[Pig [3d\]: tak konene alespon Pisa loupnul nejakeho Ukrajince :)
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;B[jp]
;W[lo]C[evenst: what is the status of s4?
daladim [1k\]: In Seong Hwang has won against Ondrej Silt this morning ?
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;B[kp]C[ThunderGod [4d\]: who was oh chi-min opponent?
evenst: b s2 kills locally, doesnt it?
ExplO [2d\]: s8 connects to the right side
Princy [4d\]: sure localy...
daladim [1k\]: s8 connects
]
;W[mm]C[evenst: right
gryn [1k\]: ahhh get out of my brain java!
Javaness [2d\]: no
gryn [1k\]: i didn't say you could broadcast there
]
;B[ln]
;W[lm]C[Javaness [2d\]: I suppose there is no scoretable available
gryn [1k\]: i would say black has a sticky wicket here
InsanePat [-\]: but here's a bunch of nuts to compensate
]
;B[km]C[Albast [9k\]: r2 better than s8 ?
Javaness [2d\]: where did you get those nuts?
odolany [4k\]: p5 now?
Lionking [2d\]: in the zoo
]
;W[nk]
;B[ok]C[Albast [9k\]: coconuts, peanuts, 
McDougal [2k\]: i have nuts and would be happy to share
helloworld [3k\]: n10
mnc: http://ivan.kostka.sweb.cz/Vysledky/Pardubice%2009/PAR3.TXT
Albast [9k\]: tenuki
]
;W[kl]
;B[jm]C[IgoZokugen [3k?\]: are u admin, PGEC09CZ?
]
;W[lk]C[azblueeyes [12k\]: pardon, is it S7 that connects?
Lionking [2d\]: hm?
kuppa: yes, W s7 connects
azblueeyes [12k\]: see above..
Albast [9k\]: s7 is connected with r8 
Javaness [2d\]: PGEC09CZ is not an admin
azblueeyes [12k\]: above someone said S8
kuppa: s8, yes
IgoZokugen [3k?\]: whats his other user, java?
McDougal [2k\]: s8 connects
azblueeyes [12k\]: ok
]
;B[mj]C[freq [2k\]: do admins get paid?
Javaness [2d\]: why do you ask IgoZokugen, is it relevant?
jipi1980 [12k\]: LOL
helloworld [3k\]: wishful thinking
CaniKom [15k\]: why do they play so slow?
goldnano [10k\]: how much time does each side have?
IgoZokugen [3k?\]: i was just wondering who does the  game replays
Javaness [2d\]: it will be somebody from the tournament
Seagal [1d\]: where is this bein played? 
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;W[mh]C[Javaness [2d\]: Pardubice, Czech Republic
Seagal [1d\]: ok thx
Javaness [2d\]: I hear it is a nice place
Toovveak [-\]: in czech room...)
Seagal [1d\]: n12 COOL move
]
;B[mi]C[distance: l11
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;W[lh]C[PGEC09CZ [?\]: info about toutn. in my PROFILE
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;B[kj]C[Tiny81 [5k\]: the game is also broadcasted by eurogo-tv http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-Czech
ryan2020 [11k?\]: WHAT IS IT?
ryan2020 [11k?\]: WHAT IS IT
Macfayden: didn't Silt win the last game? why isn't he first board?
Javaness [2d\]: Ryan don't shout or you will be kicked
Javaness [2d\]: Silt lost
evenst: b play in kgs?
]
;W[ml]C[Javaness [2d\]: b has a kgs account
Javaness [2d\]: but he doesn't play
evenst: which is ...
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;B[ki]
;W[jl]C[Javaness [2d\]: ask him
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;B[im]C[evenst: well i need to know his account to ask him
McDougal [2k\]: such silly questions today
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;W[il]C[Macfayden: javaness being difficult
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: The champion of this tourny wins any money?
freq [2k\]: does anyone think that w attack is succesful?
minismurf [-\]: 400 Eur about it seems from the website
Macfayden: i think these two are crowis and rustysword
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;B[hm]C[evenst: thk macfayden
Macfayden: np
WoolyMaCha [5k\]: thx smurf, 400Euro is not much.
jipi1980 [12k\]: better than nothing
Shiona [?\]: get's to fly home
edowaado [3k\]: much better
]
;W[ng]C[minismurf [-\]: covers a bit more than the trip for those who travel and live cheaply
McDougal [2k\]: i never a game unless it's worth at least 1 large
Javaness [2d\]: not much more
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;B[hi]C[Jadeite [?\]: McDougal, that's almost English 
McDougal [2k\]: :)
Macfayden: :D
McDougal [2k\]: translated from czech
Macfayden: czech rocks, i'm staying in prague atm :)
]
;W[lc]
;B[qe]
;W[rf]C[McDougal [2k\]: nice
cherisse [2k\]: i don't know but the way they put down the stone is really cool.
cherisse [2k\]: (too much online go)
PGEC09CZ [?\]: we are in Pardubice 
Toovveak [-\]: czech is so stupid?
McDougal [2k\]: eh?
Chompsss: czchen?
Macfayden: no idea where pardubice is lol
PGEC09CZ [?\]: 100 km east rom Prague
WoolyMaCha [5k\]:  Please be polite to Czech.
]
;B[mb]
;W[gk]C[McDougal [2k\]: Pardubice, Czech Republic Link: <http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=pardubice&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=64.537053,97.294922&ie=UTF8&ll=50.034871,15.78083&spn=3.341373,6.080933&z=8>
evenst: woah, what a link
nhanh [1d\]: hard for w
McDougal [2k\]: heh. shoulda tinyurl'd it
miao [5d\]: i like w 
chayn [6k\]: hes cool
chayn [6k\]: i met him in berlin :)
Javaness [2d\]: http://maps.google.com would have done just as well
McDougal [2k\]: lol
nhanh [1d\]: he has to gain quite alot from attacking l11 group
miao [5d\]: berlin a bit far from here
miao [5d\]: <<
McDougal [2k\]: too much work for these slackers
Macfayden: javaness got off the wrong foot this morning
nhanh [1d\]: do oyu like w or his position in the game?
miao [5d\]: position
Javaness [2d\]: why are you pretending to be Macfayden?
miao [5d\]: but he seems to be a nice guy too
evenst: macfayden, you are closing to the edge of getting booted :)
miao [5d\]: ^^
nhanh [1d\]: he is
Macfayden: because i noticed how javaness is snapping at people? lol
miao [5d\]: f9 winner move
Macfayden: doesn't take much :(
Javaness [2d\]: for a start you spelt his name wrong :)
Macfayden: w fine i think
nhanh [1d\]: f9?
]
;B[jg]C[miao [5d\]: f9 no good meaning
McDougal [2k\]: this kibbitz is more confusing than the game
nhanh [1d\]: b lower part huge though
miao [5d\]: h13 maybe
evanj [2d\]: my profuse apologies as I'm sure this has been answered a million times but: what is this game?
Javaness [2d\]: Board 1, Round 4 of Pardubice Open
bohica [5k\]: its called go
Macfayden: tourney somewhere in czechia
evanj [2d\]: @bohica: thanks
bohica [5k\]: np 
evanj [2d\]: @java: thanks (actually)
miao [5d\]: h13 seems good spot doesn´t it?
miao [5d\]: or f11?
evenst: h13?
miao [5d\]: and f7 later
evenst: for w?
nhanh [1d\]: f11 looks better to me 
miao [5d\]: also pssible
evanj [2d\]: h13 seems vague to me
nhanh [1d\]: yes
miao [5d\]: f11 less agressive
nhanh [1d\]: h13 quite abstract
miao [5d\]: h13 attacks shape drectly
plusguy [-\]: uhm
miao [5d\]: but i think f11 better
plusguy [-\]: isn't this supposed to be a european tournament? looks more like china knockout match
miao [5d\]: maybe ecen j12
McDougal [2k\]: w needs some terr
miao [5d\]: w fine i feels
Jadeite [?\]: China? Korea maybe
]
;W[id]C[Macfayden: terr is for europeans, koreans fight :)
miao [5d\]: oh
nhanh [1d\]: j16 even better
miao [5d\]: f11 now
nhanh [1d\]: otherwise m17 too weak, i think
Toovveak [-\]: slack?
miao [5d\]: yes
]
;B[fi]
;W[di]C[miao [5d\]: hm nice strategy
nhanh [1d\]: now w start to gain some terr
miao [5d\]: not yet
McDougal [2k\]: push b around from 4th line
Uberdude [3d?\]: g14 vaguely nice
evenst: w must prevent we9
miao [5d\]: h14 better
evenst: be9
miao [5d\]: but b thinks about invade corner first
miao [5d\]: i think
miao [5d\]: or g16
nhanh [1d\]: c17 you mean?
miao [5d\]: yes
miao [5d\]: doubble wing normally san san correct
nhanh [1d\]: but gote for w would be dangerous here
miao [5d\]: c17 leads to complications
distance: its hard to invade for b now
miao [5d\]: g16 too
nhanh [1d\]: maybe he can attack j8 group fist
miao [5d\]: but i think both playable
miao [5d\]: h14 need to count
evenst: j8 group has miai
evenst: cant be attacked
nhanh [1d\]: attack to gain strenght
evenst: i mean surrounding is gote
miao [5d\]: j16 not very strong
nhanh [1d\]: not necessarily
miao [5d\]: that is the meaning of g16
Javaness [2d\]: chi min usually wins
miao [5d\]: but if w can seperate both groups there is an difficult outcome
miao [5d\]: in seong has more rating points no?
miao [5d\]: in my mind he is european nr 1
miao [5d\]: but i prefer chi min style
klausP [4d\]: In seong is european??
McDougal [2k\]: is there a time limit on this game?
Javaness [2d\]: chi min has to go back to do military service i heard
miao [5d\]: in seong is korean i think
freddygo [6k\]: how would white respond if black goes h8
nhanh [1d\]: both
klausP [4d\]: ah in Korea is in europe?
miao [5d\]: but he playes in european turnaments
miao [5d\]: so he is in the eu rating list
Tiny81 [5k\]: you can see the clock here: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-Czech
McDougal [2k\]: tx much
klausP [4d\]: I am just joking
Denm: w r2 s8 miai, so no problem with b h8
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;B[gd]C[danigabi [6d\]: wow
freddygo [6k\]: that means black s8 is a forcing move
danigabi [6d\]: black really korean 7d? im surprised at his opening
Denm: s8 not forcing because then h8 r2miai
]
;W[lb]C[Javaness [2d\]: euro 7d
PeepingTom [5d\]: i think seok-bin beats these 2..
freddygo [6k\]: oh, right, thx
McDougal [2k\]: that clock is really hard to read
PGEC09CZ [?\]: clock: b 37 w 28
PeepingTom [5d\]: chi-min has more gor-points than in-seong
Javaness [2d\]: seok bin is about equal with them
McDougal [2k\]: merci beaucoup
miao [5d\]: ok
PeepingTom [5d\]: 19p more
miao [5d\]: ha my move *-*
Abendstern [13k?\]: seok-bin lost against both of them, if i remeber right
miao [5d\]: bin is cool
PGEC09CZ [?\]: Oh won Shusaku Cup this March defeating also Cho Seok-bin
theplaya [9k\]: ^^
miao [5d\]: h14 maybe
Javaness [2d\]: seok bin has a plus score agaisnt in seong anyway
McDougal [2k\]: is it hot there?
miao [5d\]: a bit
McDougal [2k\]: b appears to be holding a fan
Yopla [4k\]: i wonder if F7  is sente for b
miao [5d\]: f14 also an idea
miao [5d\]: but idk about top corner
miao [5d\]: <<
miao [5d\]: very difficult
danigabi [6d\]: game with difficult shapes
danigabi [6d\]: black is very thin
miao [5d\]: yes
miao [5d\]: but cool shapes
PeepingTom [5d\]: c9
miao [5d\]: :)
danigabi [6d\]: c9 looks small
miao [5d\]: looks like a kgs move :)
PeepingTom [5d\]: others seem somewhat passive
Denm: s15
danigabi [6d\]: is white going to play d9 ?
danigabi [6d\]: i dont think so, not at this moment
miao [5d\]: the discussion is the top
miao [5d\]: 2 burning points
danigabi [6d\]: black probably should defend this corner
McDougal [2k\]: picks up stone
miao [5d\]: yeah
danigabi [6d\]: looks too thin, and if r17 subsists , the whole group could die
miao [5d\]: but i wonder if h14 w is too servere
danigabi [6d\]: black s16 safe
danigabi [6d\]: and many points
miao [5d\]: i like n17
miao [5d\]: pressures w in the middle fight
danigabi [6d\]: n17 then m16 and corner sill open
danigabi [6d\]: and the exchange is bad
miao [5d\]: but may be sente
theplaya [9k\]: ...
miao [5d\]: and what would you play instead?
danigabi [6d\]: s16
miao [5d\]: hm
Yopla [4k\]: wh ynoy S15 ?
miao [5d\]: i like s16 for w
miao [5d\]: <<
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;B[dg]C[miao [5d\]: wow
Macfayden: n1
danigabi [6d\]: b likes trouble
miao [5d\]: unexpected
McDougal [2k\]: fun fun
miao [5d\]: yeah he seems to be a huge fighter
nhanh [1d\]: an symmetric shapes
Yopla [4k\]: headache
miao [5d\]: e15?
]
;W[ef]C[miao [5d\]: <<
McDougal [2k\]: woa fast
miao [5d\]: well that looks good
]
;B[eg]C[Macfayden: perhaps w annoyed the tennuking
nhanh [1d\]: g15 next for w?
]
;W[ff]C[danigabi [6d\]: b has bad shape
miao [5d\]: yes
miao [5d\]: trouble got bigger
klausP [4d\]: I think w will win
klausP [4d\]: he got the game he wanted
danigabi [6d\]: wll w is winning
mishik [6k\]: What is the TL for these games?
minismurf [-\]: isnt black typically a bit stronger_
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;B[he]C[danigabi [6d\]: this shape questions i dont know the answer to
danigabi [6d\]: whats better, f13 or d14
danigabi [6d\]: both vital
]
;W[fg]C[danigabi [6d\]: but black doesnt want to play f13 anyway
miao [5d\]: yes
minismurf [-\]: E12 good shape now ;)
Jadeite [?\]: 60 min. basic time and byoyomi 15 moves/5 min
mishik [6k\]: thx
Uberdude [3d?\]: w easy game
minismurf [-\]: b must aim for the two white groups i guesss
]
;B[eh]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: b many problems
danigabi [6d\]: ooouch
danigabi [6d\]: my eyes
minismurf [-\]: my move >(
McDougal [2k\]: haha
miao [5d\]: b shape is thin but still no good solution
danigabi [6d\]: blacks soul is burning in hell
miao [5d\]: omg
Macfayden: wow dani
nhanh [1d\]: shape:-)
miao [5d\]: g12?
]
;W[ie]C[miao [5d\]: or just e9
miao [5d\]: hm
distance: it is proper shape now i don't get it
miao [5d\]: ok
Tosoko [1d\]: h13 
miao [5d\]: push then peep
miao [5d\]: <<
harbinger [1d\]: why the time is not moving?
Macfayden: because we in your room
miao [5d\]: they are playing in prague
PeepingTom [5d\]: peep is good
]
;B[hf]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: demo
miao [5d\]: this is a dmo game
danigabi [6d\]: in prague time doesnt flow normally
miao [5d\]: now peep?
McDougal [2k\]: time stops for go
nhanh [1d\]: b groups looks  funny
Macfayden: which one
nhanh [1d\]: kind of two arms
harbinger [1d\]: who is leading?
]
;W[if]C[McDougal [2k\]: looks like w
miao [5d\]: after this peep
miao [5d\]: then push again and hane
miao [5d\]: my idea
danigabi [6d\]: capture k13?
danigabi [6d\]: h13 j13 h12 k12 '
miao [5d\]: to seperate 2 weak groups
]
;B[ce]C[evanj [2d\]: man
miao [5d\]: i thought
evanj [2d\]: chaos
miao [5d\]: h13 g12 h11 j13 j11
klausP [4d\]: tough choice
nhanh [1d\]: game too complex
miao [5d\]: has to answer this
Macfayden: tesuji time
Goreon [1d\]: c16 too simple?
nhanh [1d\]: c16 possible?
miao [5d\]: c16 not simple
miao [5d\]: <<
Goreon [1d\]: :)
miao [5d\]: i don´t know
danigabi [6d\]: c16 d15 e15 
nhanh [1d\]: the cut looks severe
danigabi [6d\]: seems ok
miao [5d\]: have to read
danigabi [6d\]: no cut
]
;W[cd]C[bensenseii [-\]: Phew
nhanh [1d\]: oh yes
miao [5d\]: seems ok but i am an afraid player^^
bensenseii [-\]: In Prague they use Chaos Emeralds to stop the time
danigabi [6d\]: d15 e15 b16 b17 e16 b15 b14 a16 d14 f16 e17 f17 
danigabi [6d\]: w ok
RSG [9k\]: these are not pros, right?
miao [5d\]: sure
Jadeite [?\]: strong amature
miao [5d\]: but with these long variations there may be some tesuji
miao [5d\]: as b i want to resign
miao [5d\]: <<
bensenseii [-\]: Phew
miao [5d\]: these shapes kill my mind
bensenseii [-\]: I think that 5/6d are so strong
danigabi [6d\]: there doesnt seem to be many options
bensenseii [-\]: So, Rustysword !
]
;B[de]
;W[ee]C[miao [5d\]: oh
miao [5d\]: un expexted
miao [5d\]: i thought nobi
]
;B[ed]C[danigabi [6d\]: not unexpected, i called it
miao [5d\]: oh^^
klausP [4d\]: wich move was expected?
danigabi [6d\]: twice
bensenseii [-\]: Danigabi is the great master
danigabi [6d\]: :)
miao [5d\]: nobi
McDougal [2k\]: no doubt
minismurf [-\]: called it? you said no cut...
miao [5d\]: b16?
danigabi [6d\]: thats true :)
Macfayden: let's see if these two manage to follows dani's master variation
bensenseii [-\]: What is his phone then ?
bensenseii [-\]: Wanna call him too
danigabi [6d\]: i dont know blacks plan..
danigabi [6d\]: f16 e17 b16  miai
Goreon [1d\]: these two played already 4 tournament games
]
;W[fd]C[Goreon [1d\]: both won two
]
;B[ec]
;W[fc]
;B[db]C[Goreon [1d\]: w has a slighty better GoR
gryn [1k\]: gor? is that like sos?
miao [5d\]: e18 ko?
jipi1980 [12k\]: what is miai?
Tiny81 [5k\]: GoR?
miao [5d\]: rating points
Tiny81 [5k\]: ah.. thx
danigabi [6d\]: b16 is the shape here
Macfayden: GoR, isn't that the 4handed guy from mortal combat?
danigabi [6d\]: just like in tsuke nobi joseki
gryn [1k\]: jipi miai is when there are two moves of equivalent value, so it means if black takes one white takes the other, and vice versa,
gryn [1k\]: usually it means that neither move is played since there would be no point.
jipi1980 [12k\]: ok i see
evenst: it is goro
nhanh [1d\]: but can w live after b f18 and b18?
Macfayden: ah yes
jipi1980 [12k\]: l9 n9 are miai?
miao [5d\]: hard
bensenseii [-\]: I would've resign
gryn [1k\]: but sometimes we will say miai with regards to one thing, but not say, to points or another thing, so one move *will* be taken because it's better for something else not related directly.
nhanh [1d\]: ah yes
gryn [1k\]: more like s2 and s8 are miai
aDeadman [2d\]: Oh Chi Min for the Win
jipi1980 [12k\]: ok i see
gryn [1k\]: one let's white escape by connecting, the other let's white live.
miao [5d\]: maybe w can eyen f18
miao [5d\]: then b16 d14
danigabi [6d\]: really?
miao [5d\]: but seems too hard killing wish
klausP [4d\]: f18 b16 and then?
Macfayden: gryn has the teacher's streak in him :)
danigabi [6d\]: that would be drastic
miao [5d\]: and costs the game
gryn [1k\]: mac guilty :(
miao [5d\]: ^^
]
;W[df]
;B[cf]C[danigabi [6d\]: make heavy before b16
miao [5d\]: why d14 if you want to b16?
miao [5d\]: isn´t that a - exchange
]
;W[bd]C[harbinger [1d\]: this battle over, teh game prob be over
miao [5d\]: f18?
gryn [1k\]: i wasn't paying attention, but this looks bleak for black
miao [5d\]: i like f18
gryn [1k\]: f18 c13?
evenst: maybe if w directly did b16 then b b15?
harbinger [1d\]: c13 cut
klausP [4d\]: f18 c13 g17?
gryn [1k\]: klaus sure
gryn [1k\]: but white still has h13 to separate black
Beauford [3k\]: this is a tourney game?
gryn [1k\]: yes
miao [5d\]: yes klaus
Chompsss: its on euro go tv
miao [5d\]: but if w g17
Goreon [1d\]: too deep reading needed here for me
Beauford [3k\]: ok
miao [5d\]: things get difficult
Uberdude [3d?\]: b ciuld try c11 but lost too much already
gryn [1k\]: black's moves like water on an elephant
miao [5d\]: seems f18 not work
miao [5d\]: i don´t find a solution
miao [5d\]: <<
gryn [1k\]: miao what do you mean?
miao [5d\]: b f18 g17 b-1
miao [5d\]: lib
ibd [9k?\]: what's the status of the s4 group?
danigabi [6d\]: oh, b loses all?
harbinger [1d\]: whaat is simul
miao [5d\]: s4 lively
Macfayden: s4 binding its time
dresu [-\]: it's status is trying to kill all black
gryn [1k\]: right now s4 has miai to connect or live, and is somewhat out
danigabi [6d\]: i dont think w can kill e17
miao [5d\]: r2 s8 miai
miao [5d\]: i think so
ibd [9k?\]: I see
danigabi [6d\]: f18 g17 g18 h17 c13  b loses there/
danigabi [6d\]: lets see..
]
;B[ch]C[miao [5d\]: 2 push  b14 c18
gryn [1k\]: oh jipi, i'm sorry yes l9 and o9 are miai,  they are miai for trying to make an eye, so in this case you can't make that eye.
miao [5d\]: b18 c19 b17 w+1 lib
ibd [9k?\]: are these pros?
miao [5d\]: no
Tiny81 [5k\]: no?
WhiteComet [6k\]: black cut at h8?
danigabi [6d\]: as you showed w has 2 eyes in corner
danigabi [6d\]:  ill clone
gryn [1k\]: these are professional amateurs :)
miao [5d\]: h8 j10  or tenuki
dresu [-\]: now f18 takes corner, doesn't it?
McDougal [2k\]: minor leagues
]
(;W[cl])
(;W[cb]
;B[cl]C[McDougal [2k\]: wha
WhiteComet [6k\]: c8 good move?
nhanh [1d\]: yes
nhanh [1d\]: :-)
miao [5d\]: b10 intresting
McDougal [2k\]: top right?
miao [5d\]: maybe later
miao [5d\]: ^^
nhanh [1d\]: d2 first
nhanh [1d\]: b ahead now?
Starry419 [9k\]: sorry..may i know wads happening here?
jipi1980 [12k\]: tournament game
]
;W[dr]C[Starry419 [9k\]: between pros?
nhanh [1d\]: no
Jadeite [?\]: no
Starry419 [9k\]: oh ok. thanks
Toovveak [-\]: is UR safe?
]
;B[gc]C[danigabi [6d\]: i dont think so
danigabi [6d\]: R17 makes serious damage
]
;W[eb]C[danigabi [6d\]: mm
danigabi [6d\]: that looks overly safe
]
;B[fb]
;W[dc]
;B[ig]C[nhanh [1d\]: libs may concern later
Toovveak [-\]: maybe escape
distance: g12
]
;W[nc]
;B[mc]
;W[md]C[danigabi [6d\]: w playing overly safe
]
;B[nb]
;W[oc]C[Tiny81 [5k\]: how about w g12 g11 h13?
nhanh [1d\]: aua
nhanh [1d\]: let hope b has read this
danigabi [6d\]: complicated
jipi1980 [12k\]: yeah
danigabi [6d\]: m16 n15 l18 l17 l16 k17 o15 o14 p18 q17 r17 q18 r18 q19 r19 n19 p16 
danigabi [6d\]: like this b captures
]
;B[ob]
;W[pc]C[nhanh [1d\]: ok this will be the end
PeepingTom [5d\]: putting 20-move sequence always makes you look bright.. no one checks on you
nhanh [1d\]: my friend
danigabi [6d\]: yes
ibd [9k?\]: lol
danigabi [6d\]: black should m16
]
;B[ld]C[bensenseii [-\]: :D
bensenseii [-\]: He did it
danigabi [6d\]: he better listens
Tiny81 [5k\]: lol
llook [?\]: so 6dans can read at least 20 moves ahead?
danigabi [6d\]: w messed up i think
]
;W[me]
;B[qc]C[McDougal [2k\]: no helping
danigabi [6d\]: super squeeze
miao [5d\]: agree dani
bensenseii [-\]: 20 moves isn't so hard  ?
llook [?\]: och, ok
danigabi [6d\]: at dojo , the weaker players had a book with 30 move problems
]
;W[od]C[llook [?\]: :o
bensenseii [-\]: dojo ?
danigabi [6d\]: the strongest in the school had problems with 5 move sequence 
bensenseii [-\]: O_o
Goreon [1d\]: atari
Beauford [3k\]: ? q18 worked
danigabi [6d\]: no beafuord
nhanh [1d\]: p15
danigabi [6d\]: black woul dp16
]
;B[pb]C[danigabi [6d\]: and w is captured
miao [5d\]: why not p15?
Goreon [1d\]: l16 waiting
Beauford [3k\]: but w had r18
miao [5d\]: oh
bensenseii [-\]: Captured
miao [5d\]: dumb question
miao [5d\]: <<
danigabi [6d\]: :)
danigabi [6d\]: but this is failure for w
miao [5d\]: ;)
nhanh [1d\]: oh:-)
miao [5d\]: yes
danigabi [6d\]: black can play m15..dangerous
PeepingTom [5d\]: then s18 and squeeze, beauford
danigabi [6d\]: or l16 in safety
Beauford [3k\]: oh... s17 doesn't work?
]
;W[ne]C[nhanh [1d\]: is g12 something?
PeepingTom [5d\]: no, then r19 r16 q19 r17 t17
]
;B[kd]C[danigabi [6d\]: mm
Beauford [3k\]: aha. squeeze yes
Ikarium [5k\]: fun fun
danigabi [6d\]: p15 tempting but gote XD
danigabi [6d\]: b makes big territory in whites turn..in sente
klausP [4d\]: why not P15? Kothreat for later?
danigabi [6d\]: w - 15 point in gote
klausP [4d\]: ah gote of course
PGEC09CZ [?\]: B byoyomi 15st/5'
gryn [1k\]: klaus, p15 attacking wrong stones? want to eat m17
evenst: if p15 is gote now why w took o16?
klausP [4d\]: the way thethe players fight is incredible
]
;W[kc]C[gryn [1k\]: event to capture q18
nhanh [1d\]: w wants to live there
nhanh [1d\]: k17 doesnt work
gryn [1k\]: event, but it's white's choice
danigabi [6d\]: can w live after black l14?
Ikarium [5k\]: l14?
danigabi [6d\]: maybe k17 first
PogoGo [3k\]: nhanh [1d\]: k17 doesnt work <- why?
danigabi [6d\]: k17 k18 m19 l18 l14 
fokschaap [2d\]: why would p15 be gote?
evenst: yes i dont get it too
]
;B[jc]C[gryn [1k\]: foks because m17 worth more
]
;W[jb]
;B[la]C[evenst: then why did w take o15?
danigabi [6d\]: becase p15 is atari to 4 useless stones
]
;W[kb]C[fatihsulak [2d\]: small difference i guess... only difference is white has a stone at o15 
jipi1980 [12k\]: good reading dani :P
fokschaap [2d\]: ah okay
]
;B[ic]C[danigabi [6d\]: !
PogoGo [3k\]: Oo
Uberdude [3d?\]: but i thought atari was always sente
danigabi [6d\]: ooohh
danigabi [6d\]: niceee
nhanh [1d\]: oh that's nice
Uberdude [3d?\]: that's whay they taught me at 30k
gryn [1k\]: took o15 is white's choice, black doesn't have to make the same mistake!
danigabi [6d\]: mm wait
Explorer [1k\]: Live!
danigabi [6d\]: was this really needed? might be bad style
Beauford [3k\]: k16 works
danigabi [6d\]: no k16 doesnt work
nhanh [1d\]: k16?
danigabi [6d\]: k16 l15 
kidbuu: l15?
danigabi [6d\]: all dead
gryn [1k\]: danig but l15 then l14?
danigabi [6d\]: then k14
danigabi [6d\]: damezumari
kidbuu: k14
fatihsulak [2d\]: probably resign 
]
;W[jd]C[gryn [1k\]: oh yes thank you
]
;B[ke]C[danigabi [6d\]: this is truly amazing
Uberdude [3d?\]: black is an evil genius
Tiny81 [5k\]: @Uberdude: atari is not always sente ... w can sacrifice
jipi1980 [12k\]: h17?
danigabi [6d\]: w turn: he plays with al iving group to attack a weak corner. Result = w dies
Uberdude [3d?\]: f18 all part of the plan
Goreon [1d\]: h17 h18 ?
danigabi [6d\]: i understand j17 now
danigabi [6d\]: since w has h18 sente
Chrom [4k\]: Tiny: yes,he is joking...
danigabi [6d\]: he would have lived
]
;W[hc]
;B[hb]
;W[ib]C[danigabi [6d\]: Note: If w had played e18 at F18 he wouldn be in this trouble
nhanh [1d\]: f18 usefull now
Explorer [1k\]: now l14 works
jipi1980 [12k\]: white need to kill something now?
]
;B[jf]C[Explorer [1k\]: so live
llook [?\]: how to live?
gryn [1k\]: how alive?
bensenseii [-\]: Dead ?
plusguy [-\]: w is alive
Uberdude [3d?\]: 1k so live...
plusguy [-\]: ...
danigabi [6d\]: resign?
nhanh [1d\]: yes resign
bensenseii [-\]: W is alive ? O_o
McDougal [2k\]: how could w mess up so bad
Explorer [1k\]: Oh no ko
Explorer [1k\]: sorry
nhanh [1d\]: too bad
nhanh [1d\]: w was good
]
;W[ha]
;B[gb]C[LuLee [5d\]: h19
plusguy [-\]: f19 connect gg
bensenseii [-\]: Oh yes
Toovveak [-\]: alive
bensenseii [-\]: Alive
Uberdude [3d?\]: there is a shortage of libs
nhanh [1d\]: oh
Pempu [3d\]: ko maybe?
Beauford [3k\]: f19
nhanh [1d\]: g15 h13 works?
klausP [4d\]: nice show
Naruto456 [5k?\]: seki?
telchar [1d\]: h13 first?
gryn [1k\]: j19 first?
bensenseii [-\]: He makes ko ?
bensenseii [-\]: Too hard to win I think
gryn [1k\]: oh no h13 first
Denm: wh13 helps to connect f19
evave [4k\]: alive
klausP [4d\]: still good for b
evenst: semeai
danigabi [6d\]: mm
fatihsulak [2d\]: h13 good move 
evave [4k\]: g19 
nhanh [1d\]: w connects?
evave [4k\]: ya
evave [4k\]: g15 n f19 
bensenseii [-\]: H13 then
bensenseii [-\]: And alive
evenst: f19 g19 g15 h16 h13 e19 g14 e17 
bensenseii [-\]: :)
klausP [4d\]: b will get h13 in sente
danigabi [6d\]: j19 l19 f19 g19 g15 h16 h13 e19 g14 e17  b only 1 eye, but w only 1 eye
bensenseii [-\]: Euhm
bensenseii [-\]: If White H13 first ?
Beauford [3k\]: yeah h13 lets w keep sente
BHA: w live?
Spartaaaaa [1k\]: what tournmanet is this?
bensenseii [-\]: H13 and then connect at f19
Beauford [3k\]: w alive
danigabi [6d\]: right..
nhanh [1d\]: what about  h13 g13 g15 h16 f19?
danigabi [6d\]: if h13 first w connects
danigabi [6d\]: but still..
danigabi [6d\]: the result is too bad to speak about
danigabi [6d\]: w 1 point
danigabi [6d\]: and b gets p15 also
bensenseii [-\]: Ah :(
gryn [1k\]: wait so black is a head if white connects?
evave [4k\]: how h13 is w sente?
WhiteComet [6k\]: w dead on top?
PogoGo [3k\]: because there is a cut otherwise?
danigabi [6d\]: you would ifnore evave?
evave [4k\]: no
danigabi [6d\]: then its sente
Toovveak [-\]: b can kill after all
danigabi [6d\]: :)
evave [4k\]: i mean to connect from below
toyotoma [8k\]: f19  g19 g15 h16 h14 ?
WhiteComet [6k\]: white dosent even have 1 eye
evave [4k\]: its still b sebte
bensenseii [-\]: Mmmh
Naruto456 [5k?\]: s2 w dead?
miao [5d\]: f19
danigabi [6d\]: b cnanot connect in sente
danigabi [6d\]: he connects in gote
peterma [4k\]: h13 g13 g15 h16 g19 w connect
bensenseii [-\]: f19 g15 h16 h13 and then hard for w I think ?
McDougal [2k\]: is there much time left?
harpo [?\]: h13 h16
bensenseii [-\]: f19 g19 g15 h16 h13 
Beauford [3k\]: wait... if w connects, it has to be gote, doesn't it?
evave [4k\]: s2 s8 
bensenseii [-\]: No
Beauford [3k\]: I'm starting with h13 and I get gote
evave [4k\]: ya wolf
imigoer [12k\]: h13, and how if B put on G13?
bensenseii [-\]: 19 g19 g15 h16 h13 
bensenseii [-\]: *f19
Uberdude [3d?\]: afterwars b e9?
Uberdude [3d?\]: or maybe e2
PeepingTom [5d\]: f19 h13 g19 pretty muvh gote bensenseii
WhiteComet [6k\]: i think its ko
Spartaaaaa [1k\]: what tournament is this????
WhiteComet [6k\]: at g15
bensenseii [-\]: j19 l19 f19 g19 g15 h16 h13 Maybe better ?
jipi1980 [12k\]: this is sparta
danigabi [6d\]: b leading well now
evave [4k\]: seki also possible?
bensenseii [-\]: I don't think
bensenseii [-\]: How to get seki O_o? 
Beauford [3k\]: yeah, connection is gote
Spartaaaaa [1k\]:  what tournament is this????
hanka [4k\]: dead, simple
evave [4k\]: not dead
bensenseii [-\]: What tournament is it ?
danigabi [6d\]: w lives in gote
dfre: white can conect
Beauford [3k\]: maybe resign?
]
;W[hg]
;B[gg]C[nhanh [1d\]: but then he loses
WhiteComet [6k\]: i see ko everywhere
]
;W[fa]C[hanka [4k\]: resign
bensenseii [-\]: Moyo Open 2009
McDougal [2k\]: dani right again
danigabi [6d\]: :)
bensenseii [-\]: I was right ?
]
;B[oe]C[bensenseii [-\]: Was it a good move ? :o
danigabi [6d\]: so painful 
danigabi [6d\]: p15 is worth like 8 in doubel sente
danigabi [6d\]: or around 20 in gote?
danigabi [6d\]: w should tenuki
McDougal [2k\]: i think i see teardrops falling
evave [4k\]: s8  also good move
nhanh [1d\]: d10 now?
danigabi [6d\]: E9, then f2
]
;W[fr]C[McDougal [2k\]: whoa
klausP [4d\]: h12 is sente later, so b has no shapeproblems left
Toovveak [-\]:  j19 l19 f19 g19 g15 h16 h13 j17 g14  e19 d19 k15  b kills
evave [4k\]: h8 ?
]
;B[eq]C[McDougal [2k\]: so much for sente
nhanh [1d\]: now end game starts
Toovveak [-\]: before
Beauford [3k\]: s8 not worth much
poormiao: allready started long time ago^^
]
;W[er]
;B[gq]C[evave [4k\]: b h8 and?
]
;W[dq]C[Beauford [3k\]: maybe w c9 after h8
Uberdude [3d?\]: e9 1!!!
sdf [?\]: who is PGEC09CZ?
]
;B[bm]
;W[bn]C[freq [2k\]: b e9
Tiny81 [5k\]: @poormiao: I thought endgame starts when there is no group at kill anymore
Uberdude [3d?\]: b7 in sente nice for b
]
;B[ek]C[Tiny81 [5k\]: so this would be not before F19
evave [4k\]: i still don no y not b h8
Uberdude [3d?\]: w bit slack there
jasch [2k\]: endgame starts when there is noe more moyo to build#
danigabi [6d\]: evave
danigabi [6d\]: next b move
danigabi [6d\]: is that
]
;W[nd]
;B[re]
;W[se]
;B[sd]
;W[sf]C[evave [4k\]: y not beforre that
McDougal [2k\]: anyone want to predict score? b+10?
danigabi [6d\]: there is bad aji on the left
]
;B[rc]C[danigabi [6d\]: w d8 for example
ajistorm [1d\]: a14
danigabi [6d\]: if you cut off g9 but w conneccts to d11, the trade is not good
poormiao: endgame starts when there are all froups almost settled or dead
PGEC09CZ [?\]: W byoyomi too
poormiao: groups*
Uberdude [3d?\]: when all groups are settled =)
Uberdude [3d?\]: dead is a type of settled
danigabi [6d\]: is this final match?
poormiao: ok,right^^
ajistorm [1d\]: a14 or q14
Fratloev [4k\]: froups ? :)
]
;W[pp]C[Cor [1k\]: 3rd round IMHO
poormiao: yeah iam a froupy
Chrom [4k\]: it is only a definition, can´t see the practical use for it
Uberdude [3d?\]: r2 is bigsy
danigabi [6d\]: b14. g2. and r2 are the biggest points
]
;B[op]
;W[qp]C[poormiao: in endgame you schould start counting chrom ^^
poormiao: (if not before allready)
klausP [4d\]: seems like O meant Q4 was bigger
danigabi [6d\]: b14 if aswered are around 4 in sente
Uberdude [3d?\]: counting in middlegane morei important
maxp73 [3d\]: why no res?
Enigmatic [6k\]: doesn't w b13 work?
Chrom [4k\]: counting begins at endgame? lol
McDougal [2k\]: how much is b ahead?
dfre: 2-3 points for black it seems
poormiao: middelgame = estimation, yose. : count^^
gryn [1k\]: counting whole board important middle game, so you know how hard to press
]
;B[oq]
;W[oo]
;B[no]C[gryn [1k\]: if down in yose, whole board useful to know how tricky to be :)
danigabi [6d\]: seems w best yose is actually h2
]
;W[rl]C[poormiao: if you know izts yose you can throw all books away exept "The endgame"
]
;B[an]
;W[ao]C[danigabi [6d\]: h2 biggest right now
]
;B[am]C[gryn [1k\]: danig h1 sente though?
]
;W[co]C[evenst: game is close now
evave [4k\]: close
evenst: both around 60-65
]
;B[be]C[evave [4k\]: b+5 mayb
Sephi [?\]: I bet on Oh chi min
nhanh [1d\]: b15 big
]
;W[hr]C[poormiao: saame here sephi
gryn [1k\]: obviously white wins, he has 8 stones in the bowl
]
;B[ir]
;W[hq]
;B[hp]C[seppy [5k?\]: w b14 was sente?
]
;W[ae]C[evenst: right, didnt count the stones
maciek [1d\]: chi min always win when i am watching his game
]
;B[af]
;W[ad]
;B[qk]
;W[qj]
;B[qm]C[klausP [4d\]: isnt g2 big?
]
;W[sm]C[nhanh [1d\]: gote for b anyway
Beauford [3k\]: or r2?
]
;B[gr]
;W[gs]C[klausP [4d\]: :)
]
;B[iq]
;W[hs]C[poormiao: seems big gote ^^
]
;B[fs]
;W[es]C[poormiao: to big^
danigabi [6d\]: lol
danigabi [6d\]: i just realized something really stupid
klausP [4d\]: What?
]
;B[is]C[danigabi [6d\]: in canadian byoyomi f1 is a great move
]
;W[fs]C[Rossk [-\]: pray share
maciek [1d\]: b4+b2?:)
Tiny81 [5k\]: F1 was because of boyomi?
fatihsulak [2d\]: q14 
]
;B[eo]C[glace [-\]: I don't understand F1 u_u
gryn [1k\]: f1 for time :)
mcw85 [8k\]: What was the point of f1? I understand sometimes moves like that arte used to remove eyes, but this f1 seemed pointless.
Enigmatic [6k\]: b13?
]
;W[fo]
;B[ep]
;W[en]C[McDougal [2k\]: ru saying canadians are stupid?   ;)
Princy [4d\]: =/
nhanh [1d\]: cool
glace [-\]: what's the time?
mishik [6k\]: argh :)
]
;B[go]
;W[dl]C[Princy [4d\]: b13 is 5 point gote
]
;B[dk]C[mishik [6k\]: Canadian byo-yomi - you have to make certain amount of moves in a short time
freddygo [6k\]: but then it gives your opponent more time too
gryn [1k\]: sure
maciek [1d\]: 6 points?
mishik [6k\]: So, because of f1, Black reduced his amount of moves
gryn [1k\]: but if you use your time you still gain
mishik [6k\]: thus, "increased" his time
mcw85 [8k\]: Ahh, that makes sense.
Princy [4d\]: right 6
maciek [1d\]: b14 c13 a13 b12 a12 and one stone =6
]
;W[ck]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: f1 is a good move to play from habit
Uberdude [3d?\]: you never know when reducing the eyshape could come in handy
gryn [1k\]: sometimes it is bad
]
;B[bk]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: only if it make j1 gote
Uberdude [3d?\]: j1 is sente here
danigabi [6d\]: b13 5 points
danigabi [6d\]: sorry, 6 points
Uberdude [3d?\]: as w wants g4 aji
maciek [1d\]: :-)
maciek [1d\]: yeah 6!
Mandjames [6k\]: b13 ?
Slacker [8k?\]: well w got the same use as b so it didnt really help him at all
Uberdude [3d?\]: it leaves score same
YLawliet [14k\]: \]
Uberdude [3d?\]: it reduced w eyeshape
Uberdude [3d?\]: thus good
poormiao: b13-0ne ko threat
]
;W[dm]C[gryn [1k\]: uber it could be bad simply because white lives and you only get a tail :)
Beauford [3k\]: ?
xcxvx: whats with g19 ?
gryn [1k\]: xc black g19 white g15
glace [-\]: g19 g15 
Uberdude [3d?\]: your lack of reading
gryn [1k\]: uber don't be mean :(
poormiao: g19 is huge
Chilltime [2k\]: lol
maciek [1d\]: g19 is no point
PogoGo [3k\]: why d7/c9?
Uberdude [3d?\]: sure is huge
Beo [1k\]: c10
Enigmatic [6k\]: yeah... if b plays g19 w gains A LOT XD
maciek [1d\]: haha
dresu [-\]: g19 is huge mistake
glace [-\]: ... Black G19 is points for W ...
Uberdude [3d?\]: harkikiri pretty huge too
Fratloev [4k\]: s2 bigger point ?
]
;B[fm]C[gryn [1k\]: white g19 might be gote for a while too. so neither play right now.
]
;W[cj]C[Pempu [3d\]: haha 
]
;B[bj]C[Beauford [3k\]: ko!
]
;W[bl]C[Pempu [3d\]: b8 a8 c7 b8 b11 c11 d10 b12 e10 
]
;B[al]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: f7 makes f6 h8 misiai
maciek [1d\]: chi min always win
]
;W[cm]
;B[bl]C[Princy [4d\]: were ko?
Beauford [3k\]: :-(
Beauford [3k\]: I'm delusional
danigabi [6d\]: isnt he losing
Uberdude [3d?\]: hmm liberties reudce b  h8?
telchar [1d\]: works for w
Pempu [3d\]: hmm B13 is gone after this tho 
Princy [4d\]: no its not
gryn [1k\]: pemp what?
]
;W[bg]C[gryn [1k\]: b13 have to c13
danigabi [6d\]: oh
]
;B[cg]C[danigabi [6d\]: great tesuji!
odolany [4k\]: b12?
Calis [1k\]: nice
glace [-\]: b11 
danigabi [6d\]: all territory gone!
McDougal [2k\]: comeback
danigabi [6d\]: winning tesuji!
glace [-\]: nice !
Chilltime [2k\]: nice oh chimin
Novalys [2k\]: go go go chi min !
]
;W[bi]C[PogoGo [3k\]: holy crap
]
;B[ci]
;W[bh]
;B[dj]
;W[bf]
;B[bp]C[Chilltime [2k\]: rofl
maciek [1d\]: ok i was wring no 6points)
]
(;W[ai])
(;W[bo]C[McDougal [2k\]: wha?
]
;B[ai]C[Princy [4d\]: lol
Chilltime [2k\]: lol :P
sunnychw [?\]: inseong - chmin ration is 2:2 european go database
jipi1980 [12k\]: lol
]
;W[aj]C[gryn [1k\]: was f7 worth this?
]
;B[fn]C[goghost [5k\]: bh8?
danigabi [6d\]: bad aji in corner
jipi1980 [12k\]: aji?
fatihsulak [2d\]: r2 
danigabi [6d\]: im not sure what happens afte rb2
]
;W[ij]C[gryn [1k\]: jipi aji means taste, think of it as bad taste for the moves your opponent might do.
danigabi [6d\]: typical seki shape
McDougal [2k\]: looks like f1 was useful after all
danigabi [6d\]: indeed
Princy [4d\]: b2 b3
klausP [4d\]: h12
Princy [4d\]: no problem until ibs get tighter
danigabi [6d\]: b2 b3 c3 a3 c2  like this?
danigabi [6d\]: then?
gryn [1k\]: b2 b3 c3 a3 a2 a4 c2 c1
danigabi [6d\]: c1 a2 a4 b1  multi step ko
Princy [4d\]: really?
]
;B[hk]C[danigabi [6d\]: thats the multistep ko gryn
gryn [1k\]: danig ok
klausP [4d\]: oh
gryn [1k\]: anything better?
tornemhi [1k\]: what is PGEC09 CZ?
Uberdude [3d?\]: look info
Novalys [2k\]: chi min is as strong as he's nice guy ^^
Uberdude [3d?\]: h9 is sharp
]
;W[hj]C[Novalys [2k\]: However, he's 25k at alcohol, know this if you want to play with him uhuh
Princy [4d\]: there isnt really a ko.. i tihnk
McDougal [2k\]: lol
danigabi [6d\]: itsn ot clear to me
danigabi [6d\]: the multistep ko is not great though
Sephi [?\]: son prénom c'est "Oh" ??
Novalys [2k\]: oy dani
]
;B[hh]C[Novalys [2k\]: non c'est chi min
danigabi [6d\]: its like 5 step
Sephi [?\]: ^^
danigabi [6d\]: hi nova
Uberdude [3d?\]: at very least f1 means that when outside liberties are filled w has to thinka  lot
freddygo [6k\]: whats the pt of h9
Chilltime [2k\]: h16?
]
;W[hd]C[Novalys [2k\]: P14 valuable ,
Novalys [2k\]: ?
nhanh [1d\]: h10 mistake?
]
;B[ge]C[danigabi [6d\]: cuts g9
Uberdude [3d?\]: sente for g19
]
;W[ga]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: so then h8 j9 g10 
glace [-\]: g19 h8 k10 g10 
]
;B[hl]C[Princy [4d\]: nice ^^
]
;W[jj]
;B[gj]C[Novalys [2k\]: p14
nhanh [1d\]: h10 big mistake
Uberdude [3d?\]: j10 fancy shape got punished
Uberdude [3d?\]: i suppose just conect was better
Chilltime [2k\]: blacks comeback
]
;W[of]
;B[pe]C[gryn [1k\]: right now it's a 4 step ko
Novalys [2k\]: R2 now
poormiao: r2
]
;W[qr]C[Princy [4d\]: i just dont see a ko..
]
;B[qs]
;W[rs]
;B[ps]C[Sephi [?\]: ça fait 30min que je lis des "R2 now" ... respect Novalys ^^
]
;W[rr]C[glace [-\]: mdr
Novalys [2k\]: ya pas de souci ;)
Novalys [2k\]: c'est ça de boire avec chi min, tu gagnes une partie de son jeu
Novalys [2k\]: (bon ou pas)
Princy [4d\]: b2 b3 c3 a3 c2 c4 
Novalys [2k\]: (surtout pas en fait=
gryn [1k\]: i can't seem to avoid it princ
]
;B[lf]C[gryn [1k\]: prince*
]
;W[kh]
;B[ji]
;W[ii]
;B[jh]C[Novalys [2k\]: G14 then
Novalys [2k\]: or F12
]
;W[oh]C[Sephi [?\]: or ...
Novalys [2k\]: not
Sephi [?\]: eh oui p12
]
;B[mf]
;W[nf]
;B[pf]
;W[pg]C[minismurf [-\]: looks like w wins
]
;B[ik]
;W[jk]C[Sephi [?\]: of course white wins
gryn [1k\]: white has 58? black 59? something like that?
maciek [1d\]: chi min always win:-)
klausP [4d\]: close but w wins?
gryn [1k\]: i can't count well enough to know
Princy [4d\]: not sure w wins
Sephi [?\]: not so close, white wins
superkebab [4d\]: putin c'est pas croyable...
gryn [1k\]: i count dead even
Novalys [2k\]: langage superkebab !
]
;B[ak]
;W[ag]C[gryn [1k\]: f12 big gote
nhanh [1d\]: one point
telchar [1d\]: saperlotte ce n'est guère plausible !
nhanh [1d\]: ah two
gryn [1k\]: no 2 points
poirette [1d\]: as long as it isn't in english, it's fine
]
;B[fh]
;W[ka]
;B[ma]C[nhanh [1d\]: e8
ajistorm [1d\]: lol telchar
]
;W[el]
;B[fl]C[Novalys [2k\]: g14
nhanh [1d\]: g14
klausP [4d\]: q5
Princy [4d\]: d5
nhanh [1d\]: oh q5
superkebab [4d\]: il est vraiment baleze ce oh
mishik [6k\]: q5
gryn [1k\]: g14 2 points gote
glace [-\]: d5 
Princy [4d\]: d5 big
danigabi [6d\]: b wins half point?
Sephi [?\]: q5
maciek [1d\]: l`3
Novalys [2k\]: G155555
jipi1980 [12k\]: that would be great dani
klausP [4d\]: great game
gryn [1k\]: white down to 3 step ko
Sephi [?\]: nono w wins that's sure
gryn [1k\]: d5 makes it 2 step
fatihsulak [2d\]: d5 is best i think 
dfre: seems white 1.5 now
fatihsulak [2d\]: f15 q5 miai
gryn [1k\]: q5 and g14 equal
klausP [4d\]: w needs Q5 to win
dfre: maybe 2,5
Beauford [3k\]: is there komi?
klausP [4d\]: sure there is
Laman [2k\]: 6,5
Chilltime [2k\]: q5 should be big
nhanh [1d\]: d5 better
]
;W[kg]
;B[je]C[Beauford [3k\]: f15 big too
gryn [1k\]: d5 makes ko easier
Beo [1k\]: w q5, B F15, B win +0,5
]
;W[po]C[danigabi [6d\]: b win half point
danigabi [6d\]: w got a lot in the tesuji at b13
danigabi [6d\]: that was excellent
Pempu [3d\]: no need to defend O4?
glace [-\]: d5 c4 f15 
nhanh [1d\]: noooo
gryn [1k\]: f15 now
danigabi [6d\]: o4 ladder
Pempu [3d\]: ops ;)
Nightwind [1k\]: d5 for black
danigabi [6d\]: d5 then f15
danigabi [6d\]: b thinkin playing b2 first
]
;B[fe]
;W[cp]C[harbinger [1d\]: big than q4
Chilltime [2k\]: b wins
glace [-\]: nyu?
gryn [1k\]: j12?
Princy [4d\]: j12 last point
Chilltime [2k\]: yeah
glace [-\]: why c4?
danigabi [6d\]: b +1 .5
gryn [1k\]: glace otherwise 2-3 step ko
Princy [4d\]: probly sem edorfin in corner
Princy [4d\]: semedori
Princy [4d\]: i dont think ko
glace [-\]: ...
LuLee [5d\]: komi = ?
gryn [1k\]: well c4 is semedori already then :)
klausP [4d\]: j12 and win
gryn [1k\]: 6.5
LuLee [5d\]: ok
gryn [1k\]: at least game rules says that.
danigabi [6d\]: b wins even if he passes, seems b 1.5 ahead
mircofanti [1k\]: i don't understand c4
Beauford [3k\]: yeah, why not d5?
ajistorm [1d\]: w lost a lot with g10 cut
danigabi [6d\]: well, if w playes d5, black e7, then w still has to add move in conrer
gryn [1k\]: c4 to stop ko in corner, but don't tell prince.
Sephi [?\]: b's trying to understand c4 right now ^^
Nightwind [1k\]: c4 seems to avoid semedori
evanj [2d\]: :)
Princy [4d\]: lol
Beauford [3k\]: oh
Calis [1k\]: if w has a komi he wins, isn't it?
PGEC09CZ [?\]: B 47 w39+komi
gryn [1k\]: calis i can't count that well
danigabi [6d\]: your count or did you count PGE?
]
(;B[mk]C[gryn [1k\]: so .5?
]
(;W[nl]C[danigabi [6d\]: no, 1.5
gryn [1k\]: danig sorry i can't count, i'm a go player
loveHER [6d\]: what tournament is this
Nightwind [1k\]: j12
PGEC09CZ [?\]: B win 1.5
Princy [4d\]: gryn show me the ko
Javaness [2d\]: Thanks
loveHER [6d\]: this might be the second game oh chi min lost in europe =)
gryn [1k\]: ok
Javaness [2d\]: an historic moment
distance: poor Oh
evenst: 47?
sunnychw [?\]: no, look european go database
distance: disaster
evenst: seems much more
nhanh [1d\]: is bin there too?
ajistorm [1d\]: w got unsettled by b offensive style
harbinger [1d\]: they good
Ikarium [5k\]: score was 2-2 so lost 2 already :)
Beo [1k\]: díky za přenos
PGEC09CZ [?\]: next round 9:00 gmt+2, after 13h20min
gryn [1k\]: i will clone in KGS teaching room?
Princy [4d\]: kk
nhanh [1d\]: losing g9 lost the game
evenst: isnt it japanese rules?
nhanh [1d\]: too bad
Jadeite [?\]: Thanks PGEC09
ajistorm [1d\]: thx
nhanh [1d\]: it was a simple mistkae
lordik [12k?\]: jj, díky moc
sunnychw [?\]: http://www.europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/Player_Card.php?&key=15213374
Sephi [?\]: yes g9 ...
Sephi [?\]: arg
PGEC09CZ [?\]: uf, endgame was quick.
PGEC09CZ [?\]: thx to all, see you tomorrow
ajistorm [1d\]: h9 game win yes
harpo [?\]: already 3 losses for Oh in europe
Uberdude [3d?\]: what a loser!
Uberdude [3d?\]: 3 loses
harpo [?\]: :)
loveHER [6d\]: 71 wins..
Beo [1k\]: jak hrál Ondra?
bensenseii [-\]: G14
freddygo [6k\]: what is black thinking about?
gryn [1k\]: thank you prince
ajistorm [1d\]: good ratio ^^
gryn [1k\]: black isn't thinking, game over
Jadeite [?\]: freddygo. the game has ended
fairgo1 [1k\]: wow only 3 losses?
danigabi [6d\]: 3 losses in 3 rounds
freddygo [6k\]: no score came out?
Uberdude [3d?\]: b + 1.5
freddygo [6k\]: did w resign?
bensenseii [-\]: I wonder if...
loveHER [6d\]: no, 3 losses in 74 games
fairgo1 [1k\]: nice record o.o
])
(;W[ds]))
(;B[gf]
;W[ed]C[sunnychw [?\]: i thin egc in groningen will be interesting, a lot of strong korean players
]
;B[mk]
;W[nl]C[WoolyMaCha [5k\]: W looked good at first.
loveHER [6d\]: a lot of strong korean players..not so many strong european players =\\
fairgo1 [1k\]: he's korean?
harbinger [1d\]: what happening
Jadeite [?\]: they both are
fairgo1 [1k\]: oh
fairgo1 [1k\]: lol didn't look at the names xD
])))))