(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[3x30 byo-yomi] GN[Korean Ambassador Cup Prague 2010 - 1st board]PW[Ondrej Silt]PB[In-seong Hwang]WR[6d]BR[7d]DT[2010-05-02]EV[39th Prague international go tournament - Korean Ambassador Cup]RO[5]PC[Masarykova kolej, Prague]AN[Petr Baudis]C[Prague2010 [-\]: In-seong is talking with Vlada Danek while Ondrej Silt is still nowhere to be seen ] ;B[pd] ;W[dd] ;B[pq] ;W[dq] ;B[co] ;W[po]C[Prague2010 [-\]: (both are playing now :) norgkost [4k\]: god, will you stop with this tournament??? i need to study! norgkost [4k\]: ^^ Prague2010 [-\]: Welcome everyone to the last round of the Prague Korean Ambassador Cup tournament! The two top Czech players are playing the top two Asian visitors now to round the event up nicely! ] ;B[np] ;W[qq] ;B[qr] ;W[qp]C[Titipam [1d?\]: first important decision: S2 or P2 ? RyuuGan [1k\]: Prague 2010, can you give the link of the results table RyuuGan [1k\]: pls Prague2010 [-\]: http://www.pagoda.cz/KAC_2010/nresults/ RyuuGan [1k\]: thx bitzi [-\]: go hwang! Prague2010 [-\]: titipam: it's also possible to pincer at q8 Erzbengel [1d?\]: go ondrej! Prague2010 [-\]: i think that's more likely alternative than s2 ] ;B[pl] ;W[oq] ;B[or] ;W[nq] ;B[op] ;W[pp] ;B[pr]C[Javaness [2d\]: old way ] ;W[mq] ;B[mp] ;W[lq] ;B[rq] ;W[rp] ;B[rr]C[zombocom [4d\]: the battle of inseis zombocom [4d\]: KR vs JP notbert [7k\]: can this be so good for w? RyuuGan [1k\]: o4 is heavy now ] ;W[om]C[RyuuGan [1k\]: it would be attacked lanchow [5k\]: kr vs jp, where ? ] ;B[mn]C[Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej Silt was an insei in Japan in his teenage years FiftyCent [1d?\]: ey yo Prague2010 [-\]: it's even said that fairly good one, unfortunately the situation of his pro sponsor got difficult and he had to return back Prague2010 [-\]: but that's just second-hand account Javaness [2d\]: excuse me Javaness [2d\]: is Ondrej eating a plastic spoon? Prague2010 [-\]: you have good memory, Javaness Prague2010 [-\]: but there is no spoon today Javaness [2d\]: T_T TTTJJJ: k5 ? ] ;W[jp]C[TTTJJJ: lol, thought it's b's turn ] ;B[ol]C[TTTJJJ: n8 or o9 ? NorthWind [6k\]: ah,it's our old friend In Seong Hwang TTTJJJ: he played yesterday if i'm not mistaken Javaness [2d\]: he is not very old TTTJJJ: not very, just some :) NorthWind [6k\]: no, we have seen him in a number of tourneys though NorthWind [6k\]: usually winning Prague2010 [-\]: both Ondrej and In-seong are undefeated so far FiftyCent [1d?\]: ey yo FiftyCent [1d?\]: b is ownin Prague2010 [-\]: Both players are sitting motionlessly, studying the board. Javaness [2d\]: nobi ] ;W[pm]C[Prague2010 [-\]: wow, like this? ] ;B[nl]C[TTTJJJ: like me and my hamburger, we both are motionless, staring at eachother, the quiet before the storm ] ;W[ql] ;B[qk]C[Javaness [2d\]: hane downstairs fivegen [3d\]: he did not even hesitate while he did not play hane at the head of two.. Kandi [19k?\]: b+resign TTTJJJ: r3 is not dead yet FiftyCent [1d?\]: ok game over Kandi [19k?\]: doesnt have to be, to get closed in like that is horrible FiftyCent [1d?\]: well played ] ;W[rl]C[TTTJJJ: r6 is the vital point i think TTTJJJ: or s6? ] ;B[rk]C[Javaness [2d\]: but this is normal, isn't it? FiftyCent [1d?\]: this is north korean joseki TTTJJJ: wierdest joseki ever Kandi [19k?\]: gote life there is grotesque TTTJJJ: r6 p5 s5 s6 ? Prague2010 [-\]: white can still cut later at least sweetleaf: are you sure it's gote life? PandaDance [6k?\]: Wuah PandaDance [6k?\]: what tournament is this :3 Kandi [19k?\]: if it is life its gote Prague2010 [-\]: Prague May tournament sweetleaf: and if it's already life? TTTJJJ: if w lives in gote, best next move is j5 ? ] ;W[rn]C[Kandi [19k?\]: see life in gote TTTJJJ: j5 or h4 ? ikuy [2d\]: m9 marfg [3k\]: seems disaster for w, isn t it Prague2010 [-\]: The tournament wounded up nicely I think, we had even a pro visitor playing simuls and reviewing the previous round's first board, great tea service and of course a drawing booth of chidori of e3a ] ;B[ep]C[marfg [3k\]: ? ] ;W[eq]C[TTTJJJ: e4, i thought he'll aim at invasion ] ;B[fp] ;W[gq]C[typohh [7k\]: this looks horrible for w ] ;B[lp] ;W[kp]C[FiftyCent [1d?\]: ya dawg TTTJJJ: l2 ? ] ;B[iq]C[Prague2010 [-\]: plop TTTJJJ: wow TTTJJJ: nasty :D Prague2010 [-\]: jumped in without extra parade marfg [3k\]: j3? Prague2010 [-\]: dropping the stone at the board casually ikuy [2d\]: j3 nice TTTJJJ: works good with f3 threat or l2 FiftyCent [1d?\]: TTTJJJ, please calm down ] ;W[jq]C[TTTJJJ: fifty, if you don't like what i'm saying put me under ignore but never tell me what to do noned [2d\]: :( marfg [3k\]: fiftycent is sheriff FiftyCent [1d?\]: ey yo no disrespect dawg baduk666: j3 very strong korea typohh [7k\]: I cant see the followup for b tho.. Lodurr [-\]: just f17 now? TTTJJJ: g4 ? TTTJJJ: dunno TTTJJJ: lol NorthWind [6k\]: f3 seems logical Kandi [19k?\]: b is actually thinking.... jasch [2k\]: there is still the cutting point at n8 TTTJJJ: f3 f2 g2 h2 e2 g1 d2 c3 c2 b2 and it's over for b TTTJJJ: i think TTTJJJ: so i'm not sure f3 will wrk marfg [3k\]: seemed overplay, but we ll see.. Lodurr [-\]: lol, b cannot cut, he would play f3 for getting g4 c3 stones in sente NorthWind [6k\]: f3 f2 g4 tobe30k [1d\]: else where is the best option twold [1k\]: i'd play k2 jasch [2k\]: k2 looks good twold [1k\]: at least locally. maybe tenuki to like c11 or something TTTJJJ: k2 is interesting Prague2010 [-\]: chidori invaded my hair Lodurr [-\]: lol tobe30k [1d\]: who is chidori? Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej walked away twold [1k\]: famous go artist TTTJJJ: prague, please don't follow him to the toilets.. even though it might be a "scope" typohh [7k\]: b f11 to seal up the side in sente and then tenuki? ] ;B[ho]C[tobe30k [1d\]: every go player is a go artist, no? Prague2010 [-\]: oops i forgot about the washed hands TTTJJJ: lol typohh [7k\]: er, bf3 obv, not bf11 twold [1k\]: i don't know about that tobe. my go is certainly not an art Prague2010 [-\]: he's bck tobe30k [1d\]: you know, there bad arts, too twold [1k\]: that's an oxymoron typohh [7k\]: how much time do the players have left on their clocks? TTTJJJ: h3 ? tobe30k [1d\]: that is the reason we train us so hard :| twold [1k\]: i don't train at all, lol. too lazy typohh [7k\]: if h5 a threat of some sort (which I cant see) or just compleating the loose wall in gote? Prague2010 [-\]: typohh: black 45min, can't see white burprobably similar twold [1k\]: it's sente typo twold [1k\]: b could split the white groups if w ignores typohh [7k\]: twold, so why is it sente? w has to jump out from k4? typohh [7k\]: ah, right ] ;W[nm]C[twold [1k\]: haha, w is a fighter ] ;B[ml] ;W[mm] ;B[lm] ;W[ll] ;B[km]C[TTTJJJ: and let's rock! twold [1k\]: looks like a bad cut Prague2010 [-\]: plays the cutting moves forcefully ] ;W[lk]C[twold [1k\]: helping b build a wall, too typohh [7k\]: is m9 sente? because of the potential q9 cut? ki6 [16k\]: are they playing now? ] ;B[ni]C[Prague2010 [-\]: ki6: yes ki6 [16k\]: thanks twold [1k\]: well, w made another weak group and helped b a lot. i don't see how this was good TTTJJJ: i'm sensing a big interesting fight approaching TTTJJJ: only if it was blitz ] ;W[hq]C[TTTJJJ: l10 ? TTTJJJ: amd h3 was my move, prague, why did you tell him that? :P ] ;B[jl]C[Prague2010 [-\]: they need at least some help, poor souls typohh [7k\]: in retrospect, it seems w could have used m8 group to threatten m7 group and push towards hte left side Zyamka [12k\]: ATTTAAAAAAAAACKKK!!!! TTTJJJ: well TTTJJJ: i'm off to sleep tobe30k [1d\]: with who? Prague2010 [-\]: good night ] ;W[jd] ;B[kj]C[Prague2010 [-\]: In-seong seemed to be not too keen to play this move play234 [-\]: such a powerful position though typohh [7k\]: why is b using up so many moves to remove the cutting stones? they dont seem all that significant anymore? jasch [2k\]: maybe cause there is still some aji around baduk666: korea ^o^ ] ;W[nc]C[Erzbengel [1d?\]: to catch these stones meens gaining much strengh to the center Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej seems to be somewhat uneasy ] ;B[nd]C[Kandi [18k?\]: did they spill beer on the left side of the board? Prague2010 [-\]: ;)) ] ;W[md] ;B[ne]C[Prague2010 [-\]: this is fairly thick goban, about 6cm Prague2010 [-\]: and luxury stone set, slate and shell Kandi [18k?\]: cool Prague2010 [-\]: the picture is complete with a red old-style ing clock typohh [7k\]: link to stream? ] ;W[qc] ;B[qd] ;W[pc] ;B[oc] ;W[ob] ;B[od] ;W[mb] ;B[me] ;W[ld]C[typohh [7k\]: nice 35 points of territory b carved out with his wall + corner stone ] ;B[cf]C[jasch [2k\]: this looks all good for black ] ;W[ci]C[jasch [2k\]: quite easily got the moyo into territory Prague2010 [-\]: In-seong leans back at this move jasch [2k\]: white must feel bad now iKon31 [4k\]: not now, all game ] ;B[ef] ;W[fd] ;B[ck] ;W[ei] ;B[gf]C[twold [1k\]: uhm, how many points is bottom? on the first sight looks big, but on the second, it's small actually :-) typohh [7k\]: I calculated bottom as 20, without bottomleft corner Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej is frowning jasch [2k\]: will be a tough fight for white typohh [7k\]: supposdely w gets either j4 or o2? Lider [6k\]: g11 twold [1k\]: o2 looks much bigger than j4 typohh [7k\]: ofc djrrjddjrd [9k\]: black looks better baduk666: In-seong will eated e11 Titipam [1d?\]: game still look possible for both typohh [7k\]: twold, but Im guessing you are supposed to give w 50% of the points o2 is worth, and 50% of the points j4 is worth? Elimik31 [15k\]: even with g11 it will be a hard time for white e/d-11, black has influence everywhere twold [1k\]: i think so NorthWind [6k\]: c7 for W maybe Titipam [1d?\]: black looks slightly better, but it is playable for white Titipam [1d?\]: of course, the incoming fight will decide it typohh [7k\]: w d7? jasch [2k\]: d7 no good twold [1k\]: d7 e9 jasch [2k\]: invites black to e9 ] ;W[ek] ;B[cl]C[baduk666: b want eat all jasch [2k\]: yamy goth [?\]: g11 ] ;W[fg]C[twold [1k\]: nah. b's making points already. no need to kill. just harass w a little typohh [7k\]: I thought b could use d7 to capture c5 or manybe even e4 if w playes e9, tho probably not possible twold [1k\]: top will suffer Erzbengel [1d?\]: and suddenly L10 looks pretty good, right? :) jasch [2k\]: white might live but then black gets sente and enters top for sure Titipam [1d?\]: black is already planning counter attack on the top Titipam [1d?\]: no need to kill twold [1k\]: yeah, L10 is typical honte move i'd never play :-) Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej turns to look at the second board ] ;B[ff]C[Prague2010 [-\]: In-seong seems annoyed to connect djrrjddjrd [9k\]: g11 ] ;W[hi]C[jasch [2k\]: d13 jasch [2k\]: :/ Kandi [18k?\]: w stones look ripe for death Erzbengel [1d?\]: d13 would damage the corner even more typohh [7k\]: kandi, I dont think the w group can be killed anymore. baduk666: h16 leaning? jasch [2k\]: well but if he wants to live he needs some eyespace NorthWind [6k\]: weakness of g14 should help W Javaness [2d\]: the knife djrrjddjrd [9k\]: g10 iKon31 [4k\]: how many times have players? twold [1k\]: hrm, somehow i don't like b anymore :-/ Kandi [18k?\]: 7k thinks a few stones spread around and surrounded by thick positions can not be killed... Titipam [1d?\]: Kandi, the goal is not to kill here Titipam [1d?\]: if you try too hard to kill and fail, game is over Erzbengel [1d?\]: j14 seems like almost enough for b tobe30k [1d\]: what is the goal then? twold [1k\]: first goal is to survive with g14 Titipam [1d?\]: exactly, make G14 stronger first Kandi [18k?\]: if he does not kill he will win the game anyway Erzbengel [1d?\]: its not b who is under attack bohica [3k\]: should b run or make eyes locally? nasnad [1d\]: must find the perfect move here twold [1k\]: actually, he is ;-) twold [1k\]: it's mutual ] ;B[bd]C[twold [1k\]: how do you make eyes bohica? twold [1k\]: this is just one Kandi [18k?\]: b is safe bohica [3k\]: I huess this is the answer bohica [3k\]: guess typohh [7k\]: b has one eye asfaik twold [1k\]: i wonder. i never liked this move for b tobe30k [1d\]: why not? Kandi [18k?\]: b is rock solid twold [1k\]: loses corner possibilities and still doesn't make b completely alive TTTJJJ: big rock solid groups are the hardest tokill liusasori [2d\]: very difficult game for w twold [1k\]: but i guess here it's ok tobe30k [1d\]: but still make b stronger liusasori [2d\]: white shape around e11 doesn't like solid typohh [7k\]: now w can peep at d13 liusasori [2d\]: look * NorthWind [6k\]: W can't allow easy life for B in the corner > nasnad [1d\]: it is not obvious at all that d13 is good ] ;W[hd]C[jasch [2k\]: oh white is confident to live in te center NorthWind [6k\]: hmm baduk666: h16 interestment Titipam [1d?\]: I don't think living is really a problem for white nasnad [1d\]: he must risk it anyway ertzu: if b c17 is he still behind? typohh [7k\]: somewhat silly question maybe, but why not h15 instead of h16? does it leave that many more vulnerabilities? ] ;B[ig]C[jasch [2k\]: might be still enough for b just to live with c17 nasnad [1d\]: b looks ahead to me twold [1k\]: yes, b has more cash jasch [2k\]: and white not much of potential tobe30k [1d\]: you sure? nasnad [1d\]: s2 is alive, right? jasch [2k\]: y Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej adjusts h5 tobe30k [1d\]: definitly twold [1k\]: didn't count yet, so not sure, but b's terri looks bigger. and more solid nasnad [1d\]: i dont see bug enough points for w assuming this is sente and b gets c17 tobe30k [1d\]: it will be close if w live there... i think baduk666: c17 about 30 point jasch [2k\]: ?? typohh [7k\]: w h9 too timid? jasch [2k\]: how did u count that one? twold [1k\]: ah, o2 sente. so w has more on the bottom ] ;W[dg]C[Erzbengel [1d?\]: i'd rather play e17 Cooked [1d\]: agreed Titipam [1d?\]: if black connects here, white will probably C17 ] ;B[df]C[nasnad [1d\]: i think he has to jasch [2k\]: e17, e16 c17 ? nasnad [1d\]: but i also think it is overplay Cooked [1d\]: c17 lives, so b could do it Cooked [1d\]: but maybe he thinks d14 sente on the w group nasnad [1d\]: i really think w needs another move to live baduk666: would w risk c17 baduk666: probably could afford defend Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej is away somewhere Cooked [1d\]: big question ^^ Prague2010 [-\]: the players start to review the second board game from the beginning now tobe30k [1d\]: will you change your nick next year, Praque? jimmypap [-\]: any video stream? Elimik31 [15k\]: no djrrjddjrd [9k\]: g9 live jimmypap [-\]: aww :/ Cooked [1d\]: there are other big spots for w : B4, L14, S16, etc. ] ;W[hl]C[Prague2010 [-\]: tobe30k, yes :) moegree: who is ahead? Pinguschaf [5d?\]: b Prague2010 [-\]: who knows who if anyone will be transmitting next year after all nasnad [1d\]: there are big spots for b as well Cooked [1d\]: b should probably e17 now nasnad [1d\]: i think just c17 Cooked [1d\]: u want sente ? nasnad [1d\]: it is either sente or big follow up nasnad [1d\]: e17 is not so clear because of weakness on b15 nasnad [1d\]: will work, but i think it is worse ] ;B[gh]C[Cooked [1d\]: so just c17 and then b3 ? ] ;W[gi]C[Cooked [1d\]: or s17 ? Iciac [6k\]: Interesting game o.0 ] ;B[ec] ;W[ed] ;B[cc] ;W[dc] ;B[fh]C[Prague2010 [-\]: played in quick succession nasnad [1d\]: ah hoohoo [3d\]: nice sequence twold [1k\]: very small eyeshape. i always wondered how w wants to live twold [1k\]: but he seemed confident nasnad [1d\]: black bottom has a few weaknesses ] ;W[cj]C[twold [1k\]: black bottom? Cooked [1d\]: b could let w cut and take big corner Kandi [15k?\]: 7k thinks w lives easy... djrrjddjrd [9k\]: live!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 twold [1k\]: nice move baduk666: Takemiya would killed thi FiftyCent [1d?\]: white wil llive but b will win Cooked [1d\]: not sure at all nanotech [2k\]: it is very even! Cooked [1d\]: that b wins Iciac [6k\]: d12 NorthWind [6k\]: B will arrange for W to live in a modest dwelling no doubt Torchwood [1d?\]: if w dies, game over. if w lives, b gains a lot of points and game over, too Cooked [1d\]: f8 ? nanotech [2k\]: b can not gain more points, w can reduce b only MCGler [4k?\]: black doesn't gain alot while white is struggling to live, does he? twold [1k\]: f8 interesting twold [1k\]: even f9 Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej now focuses at the r12 area ] ;B[cq]C[Prague2010 [-\]: very quiet move tobe30k [1d\]: hui, a big move baduk666: b could winned with a yose bohica [3k\]: why c3 instead of b3? ] ;W[dp] ;B[do] ;W[cp]C[Iciac [6k\]: c3 is prettier. Titipam [1d?\]: c3 is correct shape banedon [-\]: i always wondered how this could work after C4 FiftyCent [1d?\]: w will resign soon ] ;B[fq]C[Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej extends his hand over the board, then pulls it back ] ;W[fr] ;B[bp] ;W[bq]C[baduk666: good commenting ^_^ FiftyCent [1d?\]: mm Titipam [1d?\]: this is usually considered as trick play twold [1k\]: c2, common Cooked [1d\]: meaning i want all ? ^^ Titipam [1d?\]: someone is wrong Titipam [1d?\]: either white or black is doing a big mistake djrrjddjrd [9k\]: c2!! twold [1k\]: do you see any problem with c2? lydia10 [2k\]: not you? djrrjddjrd [9k\]: 滚打包收 Titipam [1d?\]: The problem I see is that a 6d played these moves as white Cooked [1d\]: c2 is cool Titipam [1d?\]: if it was a kyu player as white, I would C2 immediately djrrjddjrd [9k\]: c2 滚打包收啊 Titipam [1d?\]: but what is white plan? tobe30k [1d\]: and you still are bitzi [-\]: not everything you learn is correct Prague2010 [-\]: it's hard to tell what is black thinking about now Iciac [6k\]: c2 is fun, but I don't think it works Schizo [2k\]: maybe about killing the stone at g2? baduk666: c2 work MCGler [4k?\]: it does work. hoohoo [3d\]: hmm Titipam [1d?\]: white is probably planning some exchange tobe30k [1d\]: exchange though twold [1k\]: works. question is if it's bigger than b5 Prague2010 [-\]: he is clapping his feet slightly zombocom [4d\]: W might plan to cut at e5 twold [1k\]: b gets bottom, w gets left ] ;B[cr] ;W[er]C[hoohoo [3d\]: yes zomb feels like that djrrjddjrd [9k\]: b2 hehe twold [1k\]: lol, chicken nanotech [2k\]: no w cool just9x9 [-\]: chicken? tobe30k [1d\]: w still happy Titipam [1d?\]: e2 strange after all this. MCGler [4k?\]: only chance Iciac [6k\]: white keeps sente, at least. nanotech [2k\]: b will not take FiftyCent [1d?\]: mmmmmmmm Cooked [1d\]: j4 then b2 ? wirek: E2 means cut at E5 if b take b3 zombocom [4d\]: or using b5 aji to make his group safe Titipam [1d?\]: black b5 FiftyCent [1d?\]: yes ] ;B[br] ;W[bo]C[bert [2d\]: b5 e5 lots of aji ] ;B[aq] ;W[nr]C[Prague2010 [-\]: a bit hesitant move twold [1k\]: nah ] ;B[os]C[Moonfish [1d\]: taking the corner was big bolamata [4k\]: w is raped FiftyCent [1d?\]: but he will struggle a little ] ;W[ko]C[Prague2010 [-\]: what a _SHAPE_ MCGler [4k?\]: ^^ just9x9 [-\]: Empty L shape bert [2d\]: c6 mabe? Prague2010 [-\]: tetris kanarcek [-\]: feels like tetris :) tobe30k [1d\]: like tetris just9x9 [-\]: hehe hoohoo [3d\]: white is playing tetris twold [1k\]: is that it? nobody also saying tetris? MCGler [4k?\]: still it is fulfilling its purpose, isn't it? baduk666: l5 not a relaxed move Kurotsu [?\]: fail pinpingho [-\]: yeah go is all about tetris FiftyCent [1d?\]: mmmmmmmmmm zombocom [4d\]: 15 points gote tobe30k [1d\]: where is bigger? Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej rubs his eyes Cooked [1d\]: rather big now sixsix [-\]: killing centre is bigger just9x9 [-\]: http://chesstris.com/2007/10/03/play-go-tetris-10/#more-52 twold [1k\]: 15 points double gote actually twold [1k\]: s17 now? Javaness [2d\]: diet gote Prague2010 [-\]: lol MCGler [4k?\]: he won't easily kill it. too much aji at e5, j6 hoohoo [3d\]: meh im still looking at white e5 pinpingho [-\]: well w already have enogh eye space pinpingho [-\]: just c13... wirek: B should tenuki and play around G9 wirek: to kill w center twold [1k\]: no he shouldn't zombocom [4d\]: B is at most 5 points ahead so he cannot risk ] ;B[el]C[pinpingho [-\]: killing w doesn't look possible ] ;W[fl] ;B[fm]C[zombocom [4d\]: m6 Prague2010 [-\]: wow tenuki? Moonfish [1d\]: M6 now looks very risky for w ] ;W[gl]C[zombocom [4d\]: sorry bad move Prague2010 [-\]: placed the stone carefully Moonfish [1d\]: i had never seen comments such details before prague Moonfish [1d\]: thanks dude ;) It's nice Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej is examining In-seong's brown umbrella now Moonfish [1d\]: detailed* baduk666: haha ] ;B[dk] ;W[dj]C[tobe30k [1d\]: hehe Javaness [2d\]: Eurogotv should award Prague2010 with best relayer of the year award KZhang [5k\]: isnt m6 big? ibd [7k?\]: :D Moonfish [1d\]: Clearly Javaness [2d\]: -reward Moonfish [1d\]: it's so nice MCGler [4k?\]: m6 is gote just9x9 [-\]: lets wait until yose java for that price :) Prague2010 [-\]: i'm not affiliated with eurogo though ;) zombocom [4d\]: Prague2010 is a Kawabata fan I guess ] ;B[fk] ;W[ej]C[Moonfish [1d\]: but it's very big though mcgler ibd [7k?\]: kawabata? MCGler [4k?\]: 15 points Moonfish [1d\]: S17 is huge too twold [1k\]: is b in byou yomi already? or what is f9? Prague2010 [-\]: kawabata is great :) djrrjddjrd [9k\]: d12? zombocom [4d\]: read Meijin by Kawabata ] ;B[ln]C[Moonfish [1d\]: already done ;) ] ;W[rc] ;B[rd]C[Moonfish [1d\]: w got s 17 : / zombocom [4d\]: I recognize Kawabata style in Prague2010 comment :) Moonfish [1d\]: lol Prague2010 [-\]: I'm not conscious of that though :) I don't remember the novel that much, only that I enjoyed it zombocom [4d\]: W n12 or something Kandi [15k?\]: The train came out of the long tunnel into the snow country. Moonfish [1d\]: we should focus on the game again :p Kandi [15k?\]: beautiful Prague2010 [-\]: yes:) zombocom [4d\]: m13 Moonfish [1d\]: M13 ? looks deep Sandmann [-\]: t16:P nanotech [2k\]: e5 still works FiftyCent [1d?\]: R 12 !! ] ;W[kh]C[baduk666: n11 Prague2010 [-\]: black has ten minutes left twold [1k\]: i count b+10. but it's very rough, probably give or take 10 pts ^^ Prague2010 [-\]: white has eight minutes Prague2010 [-\]: and ran away ] ;B[lh]C[banedon [-\]: ran away? gogonuts [5d\]: to the toilett? baduk666: w escaper? banedon [-\]: lol Prague2010 [-\]: probably,i didnt see Prague2010 [-\]: ah yes he's coming back now Elimik31 [15k\]: diarrhea? petition [4k\]: i had diarrhea during the cga open last year... ] ;W[lg] ;B[mh]C[ibd [7k?\]: TOO MUCH INFORMATION tobe30k [1d\]: iii ] ;W[sd]C[Prague2010 [-\]: :))) ] ;B[se] ;W[sc]C[petition [4k\]: made it hard to play.... twold [1k\]: on the secound count, it's more like b+5 bikle [7k\]: Is there a web site with tournament info ? Prague2010 [-\]: black rests his hand in the bowl for a moment ] ;B[re] ;W[sk] ;B[sj] ;W[sl] ;B[rj] ;W[eo]C[jasch [2k\]: b+ 15 i think jasch [2k\]: around Prague2010 [-\]: bikle, http://www.pagoda.cz/KAC_2010/ tobe30k [1d\]: big cut twold [1k\]: i counted b about 70, w about 65 jasch [2k\]: e 6 twold [1k\]: still rough though baduk666: e5 I am scared bikle [7k\]: thanks Prague2010, you are great Prague2010 [-\]: i'm pretty big indeed zombocom [4d\]: f5 e6 d7 Prague2010 [-\]: that's ko, no? jasch [2k\]: how much is komi? MCGler [4k?\]: yes twold [1k\]: that doesn't work zombocom zombocom [4d\]: B can connect at j6 Prague2010 [-\]: komi is 6.5 jasch [2k\]: thx twold [1k\]: oh. but e5 can't be captured anymore ] ;B[en]C[Kandi [14k?\]: nice jasch [2k\]: now white j4 jasch [2k\]: is sente ] ;W[ki]C[Prague2010 [-\]: they got bored by that cut probably ] ;B[li]C[Prague2010 [-\]: isn't c18 fairly big ] ;W[db]C[Prague2010 [-\]: almost \\o/ wirek: yes its also more important jasch [2k\]: white getting a the big endgame moves Prague2010 [-\]: in-seong stretches his neck and gives his bowl the usual rattle jasch [2k\]: all* Prague2010 [-\]: i don't think he is SWM [15k\]: hmm jasch [2k\]: but w got t10 t16 d18 jasch [2k\]: all quite big gogonuts [5d\]: b will probably oblige at c18 Prague2010 [-\]: black's focus seems to be at middle top Prague2010 [-\]: while white is still reading the c6 area gogonuts [5d\]: oh wait, he wont pinpingho [-\]: c13 twold [1k\]: counting update: both about 70 ] ;B[ie]C[gogonuts [5d\]: b12 or b18 gogonuts [5d\]: did he find something aagainst ws center group? nanotech [2k\]: b wants l11 ] ;W[je]C[Prague2010 [-\]: i don't think he will get it twold [1k\]: L11 connected to two places twold [1k\]: b just wanted the forcing move in Prague2010 [-\]: both are nearing byoyomi nanotech [2k\]: w still has d12 danger ] ;B[he]C[twold [1k\]: so, which is bigger b12 or b18? ] ;W[id]C[twold [1k\]: d12 is nothing, w has an eye at the side Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej is counting zombocom [4d\]: B b12 almost sente gogonuts [5d\]: b12 to make w fell a little insecure :-) Prague2010 [-\]: black has one minute left twold [1k\]: yes. that's why i like it more ] ;B[ii]C[twold [1k\]: ha, b really want L11 ^^ twold [1k\]: *wants ] ;W[jg]C[tobe30k [1d\]: you sure? Prague2010 [-\]: i don't think ondrej was too happy with what he counted gogonuts [5d\]: k13 is pretty greedy Prague2010 [-\]: but maybe it's just close Prague2010 [-\]: *** black in byoyomi nanotech [2k\]: why it will connect if b h10 Prague2010 [-\]: ...and he has let his first period pass Prague2010 [-\]: only two 30s periods to go Prague2010 [-\]: he has let his second period pass? gogonuts [5d\]: b would like to punish k13 jasch [2k\]: is he counting now? Prague2010 [-\]: he has made a move 2s before running out of time! Meto [1d\]: J10 Prague2010 [-\]: he has only single period of 30s now Prague2010 [-\]: he was totally calm throughout the whole byoyomi too sixsix [-\]: which move? :) Prague2010 [-\]: oh Prague2010 [-\]: right :) twold [1k\]: why punish k13? is it a mistake? twold [1k\]: i don't see any problems ] ;B[gp]C[tobe30k [1d\]: lol Prague2010 [-\]: this one ;) ] ;W[cg]C[pinpingho [-\]: c13 so big gogonuts [5d\]: c13 is big Prague2010 [-\]: In-seong always lets 28s seconds pass ] ;B[bf] ;W[bb]C[Prague2010 [-\]: white slammed the stone in sixsix [-\]: G4 doesn't seem necessary to me Iktrionic [1k\]: b punched back ? ] ;B[hh]C[gogonuts [5d\]: now w is getting all this profit in sente, i dont see how g4 compensates Prague2010 [-\]: sixsix: he was thinking *very* hard about it Athanor [-\]: g5 g4 h4 f5 g6 g7 h6 h7 j6 makes a lot of badi aji in w shape jasch [2k\]: i wonder why b iddn't play b18 instead of b14 Prague2010 [-\]: probably wants to keep white a bit under pressure yet gogonuts [5d\]: because then w b14 would relly hurt Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej shakes his head a bit, leaning over the board middle jasch [2k\]: but b18 hurt too ] ;W[ij]C[Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej seems annoyed Prague2010 [-\]: In-seong hastily aligns the stones together krikri [1d\]: ondrej in byoyomi too? ] ;B[fi] ;W[fj]C[Prague2010 [-\]: not yet twold [1k\]: i count w ahead by few points now Prague2010 [-\]: don't know how much time left ydsyg: Ondrej puches In-seong sixsix [-\]: lol SWM [15k\]: puches? gogonuts [5d\]: tengen ] ;B[jj]C[ydsyg: *punches sixsix [-\]: classy move :) ] ;W[ik]C[kether [5d\]: tengen comes late, but not too late tobe30k [1d\]: a tengen punch? zombocom [4d\]: I think W is slightly ahead? Prague2010 [-\]: white clicked the stone in neatly Prague2010 [-\]: aw ] ;B[cb] ;W[bc]C[twold [1k\]: i count b ~ 72, w ~ 76. plus minus few ] ;B[cd] ;W[ca]C[ibd [7k?\]: l11 ibd [7k?\]: k11 zombocom [4d\]: W played better yose Prague2010 [-\]: In-seong keeps his poker face while Ondrej still seems worried twold [1k\]: yeah. b was too obsessed with center ] ;B[ns]C[twold [1k\]: should've taken the left instead zombocom [4d\]: all korean go players use the poker face trick PandaDance [6k?\]: its no trick, theyre just more serious ;) tobe30k [1d\]: how does it work? Prague2010 [-\]: white is in his last minute of main time jasch [2k\]: ah now that is nice kether [5d\]: poker face= one rank stronger? jasch [2k\]: j4 now for b NorthWind [6k\]: flushed ? ] ;W[ms] ;B[ls]C[gogonuts [5d\]: poker thinking = 1 stone stronger :-) Iktrionic [1k\]: w is gonna get crushed here Athanor [-\]: aji detected Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej moves his lips speechlessly ] ;W[mr]C[Tantris [1k\]: j2? baduk666: j4 kostuek [-\]: praying moegree: how do you know they are speechless ydsyg: eating Prague2010 [-\]: he seems really tired uhoh [1k\]: j2 dosent work yet ] ;B[kr] ;W[kq]C[moegree: maybe he is swearing inside :) jasch [2k\]: now j4 is ice zombocom [4d\]: B tricked W here tobe30k [1d\]: j2 Prague2010 [-\]: i think this is just for semedori kether [5d\]: how much komi? ] ;B[ip]C[Prague2010 [-\]: 6.5 kether [5d\]: thx ikuy [2d\]: you can see it in the rules too.. liusasori [2d\]: with that reduction, b win i think Prague2010 [-\]: *** white is in byoyomi ] ;W[ir]C[Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej moans silently kether [5d\]: beeryomi ] ;B[jr]C[Troff [?\]: w has to play 3 moves to remove l2 now baduk666: semedori ] ;W[hr] ;B[jo]C[Inocunu [1d\]: he will force w to eat all those stones jasch [2k\]: wow dead? TTTTTTTTT [5d\]: lol jasch [2k\]: ah no jasch [2k\]: lol kostuek [-\]: that was the meaning of g4? b monster jasch [2k\]: nvm TTTTTTTTT [5d\]: M2 Prague2010 [-\]: hehe jasch [2k\]: m2 y Prague2010 [-\]: i'd k6 twold [1k\]: hm, w just lost about 5 points. so b's winning ] ;W[jn] ;B[io] ;W[kn] ;B[in] ;W[lr]C[Athanor [-\]: doesn't work for b twold [1k\]: worked already Troff [?\]: it's a sente reduction ] ;B[jm] ;W[ks]C[liusasori [2d\]: athanator its a semedori NorthWind [6k\]: very nice jalan [4k?\]: wownice ? Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej missed the lid when dropping his first capture stone ] ;B[eg]C[liusasori [2d\]: some more point for b ibd [7k?\]: I didn't know go games were so full of drama Prague2010 [-\]: he sighs again now :( zombocom [4d\]: b9 tobe30k [1d\]: drama? NorthWind [6k\]: make a note : more lid practice ] ;W[bj]C[laoli [3d\]: a17 big ] ;B[bk]C[liusasori [2d\]: a17 4 points born45: b13 tobe30k [1d\]: 5 pts ] ;W[gm]C[zombocom [4d\]: 4.5 points ikuy [2d\]: 4pts ] ;B[gn]C[suechan [5d\]: 6 =) born45: k9 ] ;W[dm]C[jasch [2k\]: 4 point sthen later gets a16 probably moegree: 4.5 ] ;B[em]C[shakti [5d?\]: 6 is correct because A16 is w's sente later tobe30k [1d\]: a16 not really sente... twold [1k\]: b+5 now Etherion [2k\]: why d7? twold [1k\]: and it won't change much ikuy [2d\]: how is a16 sente later? ] ;W[mg]C[Etherion [2k\]: I don't see any point coming with that move ] ;B[ng]C[TTTJJJ: it's not over yet??? ] ;W[ac]C[Prague2010 [-\]: shouldn't you be asleep? ;) twold [1k\]: good morning jasch [2k\]: m15 ] ;B[bh] ;W[bg] ;B[ag]C[nasnad [1d\]: b is winning still, right? ] ;W[ch]C[MCGler [4k?\]: yes liusasori [2d\]: i don't know ] ;B[ak]C[twold [1k\]: sure he is gogonuts [5d\]: a9 is nice Prague2010 [-\]: In-seong glances around and pushes his chair nearer the table ] ;W[sp] ;B[sq]C[Etherion [2k\]: In-seong isn't a girl? jasch [2k\]: no Iktrionic [1k\]: ... banedon [-\]: lol tobe30k [1d\]: a monster SWM [15k\]: O.o ] ;W[ad]C[Pinguschaf [5d?\]: but inseong looks so cute ] ;B[if]C[jasch [2k\]: haha SWM [15k\]: O.o Sandmann [-\]: you made my day^^ SWM [15k\]: XD Etherion [2k\]: heh :D ikuy [2d\]: wow t4 really was sente :) ] ;W[jk]C[Etherion [2k\]: I misplaced him with lee hajin :D ] ;B[kk]C[zombocom [4d\]: he looks cute untill starts killing your groups Prague2010 [-\]: lee hajin is here today as well Etherion [2k\]: those asian names look all the same :) SWM [15k\]: XD SWM [15k\]: -_- gogonuts [5d\]: then he morphs Prague2010 [-\]: his teeth get all pointy ] ;W[il]C[SWM [15k\]: -_- SWM [15k\]: and what becomes a monster? ] ;B[ji]C[liusasori [2d\]: w 74.5 b 76 twold [1k\]: b 77, w 72 twold [1k\]: ok, reasonably close ] ;W[jf]C[Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej flaps his hand over his bowl helplessly ] ;B[jh]C[gogonuts [5d\]: its not like w is out of it ] ;W[kg]C[Prague2010 [-\]: he shakes head as he connects wirek: w A10 important Prague2010 [-\]: he doesn't seem to approve of the board zombocom [4d\]: B +2 nanotech [2k\]: w played badly here ] ;B[mf]C[TTTTTTTTT [5d\]: B+0.5 born45: so g4 and m2 made the difference ] ;W[im]C[MCGler [4k?\]: how is a10 important wirek? ] ;B[eh]C[gogonuts [5d\]: i think w is unhappy because he smells a halfpointer for b wildaxt [6k\]: d1 big ] ;W[dh]C[gryn [1k\]: 73.5 vs 77? jasch [2k\]: ? liusasori [2d\]: closer than that i think liusasori [2d\]: 1.5 or 0.5 game SWM [15k\]: a bigger win for black gryn [1k\]: i just got up :0 twold [1k\]: yeah. jasch [2k\]: d1 or m15 now ] ;B[lo]C[gryn [1k\]: :)* ] ;W[js]C[wirek: w didnt see A10 twold [1k\]: w head lots of small 1 pts hidden all over the board liusasori [2d\]: a10 dame twold [1k\]: and i just ignored them ^^ MCGler [4k?\]: wirek: a10 is nothing. liusasori [2d\]: sente ] ;B[qm]C[wirek: No dame! jasch [2k\]: ? liusasori [2d\]: dame sente ydsyg: b15 for w? ] ;W[qn]C[born45: p6 TTTTTTTTT [5d\]: O6 Troff [?\]: a10 just a ko threat ] ;B[oo]C[twold [1k\]: p6 is as bad as it gets ] ;W[nn]C[gryn [1k\]: 73.5 vs 75? SWM [15k\]: o5 SWM [15k\]: one point yay wirek: if after A10 b connect B12 gryn [1k\]: that's more in line with crowd thought :P ] ;B[no]C[wirek: w make seki with D6 zombocom [4d\]: l8 born45: p5 valuable sixsix [-\]: wirek are you missing F5? SWM [15k\]: q6 gryn [1k\]: q6 is no points SWM [15k\]: so? Iktrionic [1k\]: b+0.5 ? Prague2010 [-\]: white is down to his last period too SWM [15k\]: >_< zombocom [4d\]: W l8 is tesuji ] ;W[le]C[gryn [1k\]: so play a move worth points! :) ] ;B[lf]C[myongstu [4d\]: l8 is nothing djrrjddjrd [9k\]: p6? Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej is falling asleep TTTTTTTTT [5d\]: D1 Prague2010 [-\]: ;) ] ;W[pn]C[SWM [15k\]: aww Prague2010 [-\]: a dangerous thing to do in byoyomi SWM [15k\]: too late ] ;B[kf] ;W[ke]C[gryn [1k\]: l8 aready -1 for black, if white plays, black just has -2 but white has -1 so it's the same. ] ;B[ds]C[zombocom [4d\]: WL8 is the same as q6 ] ;W[es] ;B[dr]C[ikuy [2d\]: q6 is a 0 point move right? SWM [15k\]: yup gdhjal: nops sixsix [-\]: no q6 is 2 points gote Buffon [7d\]: in seong so strong at endgame SWM [15k\]: O.o ] ;W[gd]C[abak [1d\]: y abak [1d\]: 2 points twold [1k\]: no q6 was snapback SWM [15k\]: no A1R [5k\]: a15 born45: SE so strong at endgame gryn [1k\]: q6 s7 p6 r7 ] ;B[gj]C[Ludmila [6k\]: because he can n9 gryn [1k\]: not snapback SWM [15k\]: cause of r7 ikuy [2d\]: oh I missed that lol :D SWM [15k\]: >_< Prague2010 [-\]: timesuji i think ikuy [2d\]: it was 2 points ] ;W[hj]C[nanotech [2k\]: a15 nothing liusasori [2d\]: if w didn't play q6 : b q6 s7 p6 r7 l8 two points gote Etherion [2k\]: a15? TTTTTTTTT [5d\]: A10 kostuek [-\]: w l8 1 point now? tobe30k [1d\]: a 15 0 pts sente fekand3 [1k\]: D6? Prague2010 [-\]: white still shaking his head ] ;B[fo]C[Javaness [2d\]: Danek! ] ;W[bi]C[gryn [1k\]: i think it was at most 1 point not 2 abak [1d\]: a10 big ] ;B[ah] ;W[ae] ;B[af]C[abak [1d\]: wa* ] ;W[on]C[abak [1d\]: was big ] ;B[kl]TW[aa][ba][da][ea][fa][ga][ha][ia][ja][ka][la][ma][na][oa][pa][qa][ra][sa][ab][eb][fb][gb][hb][ib][jb][kb][lb][nb][pb][qb][rb][sb][ec][fc][gc][hc][ic][jc][kc][lc][mc][kd][di][gj][fk][gk][hk][qm][rm][sm][sn][qo][ro][so][gr][jr][kr][fs][gs][hs][is][ls]TB[oe][pe][qe][hf][nf][of][pf][qf][rf][sf][fg][gg][hg][og][pg][qg][rg][sg][ih][nh][oh][ph][qh][rh][sh][mi][oi][pi][qi][ri][si][lj][mj][nj][oj][pj][qj][lk][mk][nk][ok][pk][al][bl][dl][ll][am][bm][cm][dm][an][bn][cn][dn][fn][ao][bo][eo][go][mo][ap][bq][ar][sr][as][bs][cs][ps][qs][rs][ss]C[Prague2010 [-\]: dame, etc. go4ut [2d\]: g9 djrrjddjrd [9k\]: w win gryn [1k\]: you'll have to give score sitll prague :) ikuy [2d\]: b + 2.5 SWM [15k\]: if there was no komi Prague2010 [-\]: KGS has black + 2.5 SWM [15k\]: then Buffon [7d\]: 3.5? SWM [15k\]: w wins Iktrionic [1k\]: b so strong at yose Prague2010 [-\]: they discuss the game without counting Buffon [7d\]: b must capture g9 Cooked [1d\]: komi is how much ? Buffon [7d\]: w* Prague2010 [-\]: oh gryn [1k\]: 6.5 Prague2010 [-\]: right Javaness [2d\]: very good Prague2010 [-\]: that's not true Prague2010 [-\]: is it? jasch [2k\]: yeah thanks for nice realtime comments Troff [?\]: It is ikuy [2d\]: so b + 3.5 Iktrionic [1k\]: obviously it's true ^^ Buffon [7d\]: why not true? baduk666: after a10 a11 Prague2010 [-\]: ahhhh Troff [?\]: g9 must be played Prague2010 [-\]: right :) Prague2010 [-\]: ok twold [1k\]: w has one lib after dame ] ;W[gk]TW[aa][ba][da][ea][fa][ga][ha][ia][ja][ka][la][ma][na][oa][pa][qa][ra][sa][ab][eb][fb][gb][hb][ib][jb][kb][lb][nb][pb][qb][rb][sb][ec][fc][gc][hc][ic][jc][kc][lc][mc][kd][di][gj][fk][hk][qm][rm][sm][sn][qo][ro][so][gr][jr][kr][fs][gs][hs][is][ls]TB[oe][pe][qe][hf][nf][of][pf][qf][rf][sf][fg][gg][hg][og][pg][qg][rg][sg][ih][nh][oh][ph][qh][rh][sh][mi][oi][pi][qi][ri][si][lj][mj][nj][oj][pj][qj][lk][mk][nk][ok][pk][al][bl][dl][ll][am][bm][cm][dm][an][bn][cn][dn][fn][ao][bo][eo][go][mo][ap][bq][ar][sr][as][bs][cs][ps][qs][rs][ss]C[Javaness [2d\]: thanks prague Prague2010 [-\]: no wait myongstu [4d\]: well w could sacrifice the whole group..his choice Ludmila [6k\]: yes Prague2010 [-\]: so KGS has black + 3.5 baduk666: ideal sacrifice Ludmila [6k\]: *twold Bembelbote [-\]: but there is no komi in the rules, are there? Bembelbote [-\]: so w won? Buffon [7d\]: no Cooked [1d\]: b won Iktrionic [1k\]: yes there is gryn [1k\]: there is komi and that's after komi Bembelbote [-\]: oh right. sry :) gryn [1k\]: np :) cloudo [3k\]: nice cloudo [3k\]: is there another game today? born45: g4 and m2 twold [1k\]: so we can say w lost the game because he didn't play j4 sente when he could. what a pity Prague2010 [-\]: *** GAME OVER: BLACK WINS! A1R [5k\]: official result? Prague2010 [-\]: yes SWM [15k\]: black SWM [15k\]: XD SWM [15k\]: nice Prague2010 [-\]: Thank you all for watching! born45: tournament page Prague2010 [-\]: This was the last round of our tournament. krikri [1d\]: thx pasky twold [1k\]: thank you Prague2010 [-\]: the final results will be at http://www.pagoda.cz/KAC_2010/ born45: thanks SWM [15k\]: thank you myongstu [4d\]: the three stars *** are a bit irritating. do u cover a bad word? :-) Prague2010 [-\]: so, see you again on some other tournament :) Prague2010 [-\]: have a nice day ajka [2k\]: thanks :) Cooked [1d\]: i think a bad word would rather have Cooked [1d\]: 4 letters Cooked [1d\]: ^^ ])