(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[3x30 byo-yomi]
GN[Korean Ambassador Cup Prague 2010 - 1st board]PW[Vladimir Danek]PB[Ondrej Silt]WR[5d]BR[6d]DT[2010-05-01]EV[39th Prague international go tournament - Korean Ambassador Cup]RO[3]PC[Masarykova kolej, Prague]AN[Petr Baudis]C[Javaness [2d\]: DANEK
Prague2010 [-\]: we are still waiting for the players to gather
Prague2010 [-\]: then there will be nigiri
Prague2010 [-\]: players still not here
Prague2010 [-\]: just their drinks
Prague2010 [-\]: Vlada arrived and stands around drinking his pu-erh
Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej is finally approacing the board too
Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej won nigir
Prague2010 [-\]: i
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;B[qd]C[Prague2010 [-\]: Welcome welcome everyone at the today's third round of the Prague tournament! Tonight, Ondrej Silt the top Czech player clashes with Vladimir Danek, veteran of Czech go and popular go vendor!
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;W[od]
;B[oe]
;W[ne]C[oonicks [-\]: kewl
snowman [-\]: i cheer for both
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;B[pe]
;W[nf]
;B[nd]C[Yamaxanadu [-\]: Hi Prague2010... I never heard of you
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;W[md]
;B[nc]
;W[mc]
;B[ob]
;W[nb]
;B[oc]C[Javaness [2d\]: DANEK!
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;W[ec]C[snowman [-\]: one joseki, is it good enough...
Ph1xi3 [-\]: Generous, but influentic.
Yamaxanadu [-\]: *Influential
Javaness [2d\]: influenza
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;B[co]C[dutch2dan [1d\]: innuendo?
snowman [-\]: i think you are seeing things
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;W[lf]C[Prague2010 [-\]: the power of honte!
Yamaxanadu [-\]: moyo game?
Javaness [2d\]: 3 corners
Yamaxanadu [-\]: Ah... now that I look at it, KGS DOES have it
Yamaxanadu [-\]: They look like normal squares - equal length on all sides - at first glance, but if you look closely,
Yamaxanadu [-\]: Blah, you know the rest
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;B[de]C[Javaness [2d\]: both players seem to know joseki
Yamaxanadu [-\]: I know joseki
Hernee [2d\]: I know five different josekis
Hernee [2d\]: Do I win?
OttosMops [1k\]: five???
OttosMops [1k\]: *bows*
Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej is enjoying a Shock! energy drink
afikol [8k\]: did Vladimir win before?
Yamaxanadu [-\]: I know... about 15-20
Prague2010 [-\]: afikol: yes
Ph1xi3 [-\]: Good for W, Good for B, Equal, Locally good for W, Locally good for B, Tricked.
Domgo [4k\]: can we have the internet link?
afikol [8k\]: great :)
Prague2010 [-\]: link to what?
Domgo [4k\]: we can't see them play&?
Iktrionic [1k\]: aren't you ?
Yamaxanadu [-\]: I don't think Prague has the abilities of EuroGoTV
snowman [-\]: D16 would be my choice
Domgo [4k\]: k
Yamaxanadu [-\]: I'm not sure, I just don't think so
Javaness [2d\]: we can say that E15 is the only move
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;W[ee]C[Hernee [2d\]: Because there is nothing more interesting than watching live, high quality feed of players scratching their heads in front of a go board, occasionally glaring towards camera and taking a peek at other games
snowman [-\]: this is no good
Javaness [2d\]: do you want the truth?
snowman [-\]: yeah, game over
Ph1xi3 [-\]: Influence for cash.
Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej tries to eat his fingers
Yamaxanadu [-\]: White has moyo!
Yamaxanadu [-\]: White loses!
norgkost [4k\]: how many leaps of logic was that?
snowman [-\]: that's not a moyo, it's a pitifully small one basket
oonicks [-\]: its not rili a moyo when he takes the whole top?
dutch2dan [1d\]: no, as by then it is territory
Hernee [2d\]: W has lost?
snowman [-\]: i guess danek doesn't know or has forgotten about D16
Prague2010 [-\]: black is focusing on that corner
Yamaxanadu [-\]: If black plays around tengen... it would really hurt white's strategy for the top...
Yamaxanadu [-\]: But when can black play there?
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;B[ed]C[Yamaxanadu [-\]: And the the bottom right corner...
oonicks [-\]: tengen isnt good i think with the corner empty
Hernee [2d\]: This move seems, on superficial analysis, to be quite powerful
Yamaxanadu [-\]: Thus the questioning
snowman [-\]: maybe another joseki
Narayana [5k\]: is this korean style only slower?
Hernee [2d\]: I don't even bother trying to read this out and compare it to alternatives. Too difficult
Prague2010 [-\]: lol
oonicks [-\]: when you can coose between towo moves the wedge in is allways the most severe says teh proverb
oonicks [-\]: but seems he had more then two choices
snowman [-\]: white should take some profit now
norgkost [4k\]: wedge in? what does that mean?
Yamaxanadu [-\]: e16 
oonicks [-\]: e16
Yamaxanadu [-\]: :P
norgkost [4k\]: i see. thanks
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;W[dd]C[Yamaxanadu [-\]: So long.....
oonicks [-\]: its a first for me to see off d15 tho
Yamaxanadu [-\]: Just for joseki?
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;B[fd]C[Hernee [2d\]: I assume this is not going to get simpler for at least few more moves
Prague2010 [-\]: black came back and extended immediately
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;W[dc]C[Iktrionic [1k\]: e14 
oonicks [-\]: f17 mayb
norgkost [4k\]: e14 makes ladder! :O
Prague2010 [-\]: i think e14 is not severe enough
Ph1xi3 [-\]: Too high
Iktrionic [1k\]: e14 c15 f15 c14 looks ok for black
norgkost [4k\]: e14 very safe
losanios [2k\]: e14 looks good
Monstre [1d\]: i don't like this result for b
Hernee [2d\]: E14 seems beautiful...
snowman [-\]: E14 is the normal move, though black might not want to play it
oonicks [-\]: yes e14 is also proverbial
Hernee [2d\]: But w could toss b around
losanios [2k\]: e14 is ok
Monstre [1d\]: if e14  w's corner too big
norgkost [4k\]: what's the proverb, oonicks? :)
Hernee [2d\]: So B might do something ridiculously complicated now
oonicks [-\]: capture a stone in a ladder when you can or sth on that line
twold [1k\]: there is death in hane :-)
Prague2010 [-\]: at any rate, judging from how ondrej is rocking back and forth thinking hard, it's far from obvious
snowman [-\]: we'll see
masek [?\]: ПоздраПерма ПерваПоздра :)
masek [?\]: good game
norgkost [4k\]: what other choice black has? c15?
oonicks [-\]: point cud b f17 is sente
masek [?\]: bet  Silt will get this game
snowman [-\]: maybe he's counting the territory already :)
Hernee [2d\]: I'm expecting E14 D14, by the way
masek [?\]: snowman like modern pc counting Resign move
masek [?\]: like resign in 200 moves
Prague2010 [-\]: snowman, he is still focused at the local situation
snowman [-\]: i certainly would do the estimate right now
Yamaxanadu [-\]: So much thinking....
Yamaxanadu [-\]: for just a joseki :s
oonicks [-\]: b 3 pts ahead
snowman [-\]: don't let the eyes betray you, prague
Narayana [5k\]: got to think hard early on, too many choices
norgkost [4k\]: e14 d14 f15 c15 possible?
Hernee [2d\]: Bwah. This is bad for b :<
norgkost [4k\]: i know :) 
norgkost [4k\]: but if black e14 white can play that?
Javaness [2d\]: what happen
Hernee [2d\]: Simple E14 C15 F15 C14 would be awful for B
Nose [6k\]: the ladder works
Yamaxanadu [-\]: the e14 joseki is:
norgkost [4k\]: heavy group for black
gogonuts [5d\]: simple ladder no terrible
gogonuts [5d\]: not 
Yamaxanadu [-\]: e14 c15 f15 c14 f17 
Narayana [5k\]: there is morer to life than chutes and ladders
gogonuts [5d\]: because w center is also devalued
Hernee [2d\]: B group floats pointlessly while w gets all the territory and influence :/
fatihsulak [-\]: i think black is better here
Yamaxanadu [-\]: But e14 leads to a move like q4 or something
oonicks [-\]: i don't know what is right here but f16 seems a small succes
snowman [-\]: the problem with the ladder is that the semi-ponnuki thickness is useless compared to the white corner territory
gogonuts [5d\]: b should slallow his pride and play the ladder, then hes fine
gogonuts [5d\]: if b c15 ws thickness comes into play
fatihsulak [-\]: e14 is the only move imo
Prague2010 [-\]: black is still reading very hard
Nose [6k\]: black already has a large corner, so capturing the cutting stone seems correct to me
gogonuts [5d\]: b wants to make c15 work :-)
snowman [-\]: that will equalize the top right corner, and the komi would be too large to handle
Yamaxanadu [-\]: c15 is possible
norgkost [4k\]: that's what i thought too gogonuts ^^ 
gogonuts [5d\]: with e14 b leads imo
Narayana [5k\]: why not d14?
Hernee [2d\]: E14 probably good enough
gogonuts [5d\]: with c15 its totally unclear
oonicks [-\]: i dont like c15 b will have a very weak and haunted group after
gogonuts [5d\]: d14 doesnt capture :-)
Yamaxanadu [-\]: When you can't decide,
Yamaxanadu [-\]: TENUKI :D
Prague2010 [-\]: ondrej seems to have no intention to do that
Hernee [2d\]: I usually adhere that rule, but even I wouldn't tenuki here
gogonuts [5d\]: tenuki would be total desaster
Hernee [2d\]: That's one of my main reasons for not playing tenuki :>
Ph1xi3 [-\]: Follow around is the best.
Prague2010 [-\]: Ondrej shuffles a bit and grabs a handful of stones
Hernee [2d\]: E14 is both urgent, big, captures cutting stone, makes stones in the crucial area of the board live...
Prague2010 [-\]: Vladimir is looking around, relaxed
oonicks [-\]: probs e14 has enough of an effect on the top, my guess is he won't play it
snowman [-\]: hah
Narayana [5k\]: a handful? what is he doing with the stones?
Yamaxanadu [-\]: Black should play a magic stone that, when captured, creates a hurricane that goes across the board scattering all the black stones
Yamaxanadu [-\]: *white stones
ChoMama [-\]: 'color" commentary for go? who woulda thunk it?
norgkost [4k\]: i thought they banned that?
Prague2010 [-\]: narayana: he just dropped them in front of the board
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;B[ce]C[Yamaxanadu [-\]: ;o
norgkost [4k\]: uuuu
Iktrionic [1k\]: lol
Hernee [2d\]: Cool :D
Prague2010 [-\]: Vladimir looks at my screen ;)
norgkost [4k\]: this is gonna be interesting ^^
fatihsulak [-\]: not sure if c15 is a good idea
Hernee [2d\]: I'm absolutely certain C15 is _not_ a good idea
Narayana [5k\]: don't let him look for hints ;)
gogonuts [5d\]: lol, after spending all that time he couldnt make himself play e14
Hernee [2d\]: That's why this is going to be awesome :D
twold [1k\]: why is not a good idea?
Yamaxanadu [-\]: Blacks a fighter
Prague2010 [-\]: small crowd grouped around the board
Hernee [2d\]: twold, N16
Yamaxanadu [-\]: (/runner)
Eridor [11k\]: I agree with Yamaxanadu. I'd play the same
Iktrionic [1k\]: it's not called joseki by official pros xd
nay4ok [1d?\]: is it being broadcasted?
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;W[fc]C[Hernee [2d\]: N16 influence starts working really well now, exactly the result b should avoid
fatihsulak [-\]: why not e14 instead of f17 
twold [1k\]: not really hernee
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;B[gd]
;W[ef]C[twold [1k\]: g16 threatens to capture, then g17 later
Yamaxanadu [-\]: You called? :P
Narayana [5k\]: is he using the stones he dropped in front of the board?
snowman [-\]: this is very rare variation
Prague2010 [-\]: i don't know, i can't see at them
Hernee [2d\]: Can't play G17 now
twold [1k\]: not so easy
gogonuts [5d\]: f17 was a little fishy too
twold [1k\]: but w gained some stability for the corner compared with joseki. i wonder where's the catch
oonicks [-\]: i though f17 the best move
Hernee [2d\]: F17 seemed fine
fatihsulak [-\]: g14 now?
oonicks [-\]: bit appealing very much
oonicks [-\]: not<
Yamaxanadu [-\]: Aren't "joseki" decided and created by a tiny asylum of 20d players?
Hernee [2d\]: W plays C13 next if b doesn't protect
fatihsulak [-\]: f17 let black play g16 and g14 is good place now 
Iktrionic [1k\]: yeah, yama
Hernee [2d\]: After that, G16 seems doomed
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;B[dg]C[Hernee [2d\]: I can't see this turning out to be even moderately un-bad for B :/
twold [1k\]: maybe so yamaxanadu, but you can learn a great deal by trying to figure out why you play worse moves
Yamaxanadu [-\]: It's like they're trying to salvage the joseki :P
fatihsulak [-\]: black wants everything 
snowman [-\]: too late for that
fatihsulak [-\]: dangerous for black
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;W[gf]C[Prague2010 [-\]: both walked away right now
leachy [6k\]: i say we ditch joseki and just talk about corner openings: who cares if some variation isn't ordained by the gods of go: it might soon become popular
Prague2010 [-\]: ah ondrej is back
Nose [6k\]: g17 sente now ?
twold [1k\]: this doesn't look good. b should've g14
oonicks [-\]: g17 sente bit probs not ok
Yamaxanadu [-\]: Why don't the high level players play the first joseki we teach to 20ks and blah? 
fatihsulak [-\]: probably he see something we cant see
Hernee [2d\]: teachy, being popular has nothing to do with being a joseki
snowman [-\]: eh?
gogonuts [5d\]: g14 looks like the vital point, im surprised b didnt play it
norgkost [4k\]: you teach this to 20k? :)
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;B[bc]C[fatihsulak [-\]: sacrificing? 
leachy [6k\]: *popular amongst top players
Yamaxanadu [-\]: You read it wrong, norgkost
Prague2010 [-\]: black makes an annoyed face
Hernee [2d\]: Joseki is a sequence of optimal moves for both players that give both players about fair result
gogonuts [5d\]: he should :-)
twold [1k\]: you forgot to add locally, which is often forgotten
Prague2010 [-\]: now he stares at the board gloomily, head in his hands
norgkost [4k\]: q4 now? :)
Hernee [2d\]: Oh, true
gogonuts [5d\]: w test at b18
leachy [6k\]: *what is thought currently to be optimal
Yamaxanadu [-\]: Is this turning into a novel? :>
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;W[bb]C[oonicks [-\]: no i think w has to reply in a similar manner as to g17
Narayana [5k\]: i like the commentary
norgkost [4k\]: nice call gogonuts
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;B[bd]C[Yamaxanadu [-\]: The commentary is novel-ish
Hernee [2d\]: leachy, well, yes, but that's redundant
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;W[hb]C[Yamaxanadu [-\]: Hmm...
Yamaxanadu [-\]: almost joseki... (it looks like)
Yamaxanadu [-\]: But f16 ruins it :<
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;B[cb]C[Yamaxanadu [-\]: Well... N16
norgkost [4k\]: wow, c18 smaaaal?
gogonuts [5d\]: h18 is very safe, but its a concession
Ph1xi3 [-\]: B giving white the choice to move onward.
Narayana [5k\]: next corner
norgkost [4k\]: doesn't black need that right now? :)
twold [1k\]: i don't really get this move. someone explain :-)
norgkost [4k\]: q4 big big big
Prague2010 [-\]: c18 might be almost sente
Prague2010 [-\]: giving options to g16 group
Prague2010 [-\]: but i don't see any concrete sequences ;
twold [1k\]: hm, but doesn't h15 more or less kill g16?
leachy [6k\]: not redundant as seemingly unfavourable variations come into vogue when a new move is found that completely overturns old thinking
oonicks [-\]: almost sente is a nice definition of gote?
Gresil [-\]: twold, immobilizes it in gote rather
gogonuts [5d\]: i think h18 should have been at c18, but that doesnt mean that b c18 is good - w can take sente now
twold [1k\]: i must be missing some tesuji, because as i see it, this move is small and killing g16 at the same time :-)
Excalibor [-\]: mmm... interesting match... how much time left fo they have, Praga2010¿
Prague2010 [-\]: oonicks: sente-gote is just a matter of current temperature, almost sente means it might be below the temperature but just a little ;)
oonicks [-\]: but i think it is still okish
Prague2010 [-\]: excalibor: both have ~45 minutes left
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;W[pp]C[norgkost [4k\]: q4, yes!
Excalibor [-\]: okay, thanks
Yamaxanadu [-\]: nuuuuuu
Ph1xi3 [-\]: B does not wan't to choose how the corner will develope. He controls the right and has left oriented corner at bottom left. So it is like If white goes for last corner B can choose how to approach.
twold [1k\]: prague, you are getting technical now. i guess not many people know combinatorial game theory :-)
Excalibor [-\]: looks like they are taking their time anyway, only 34 moves
Prague2010 [-\]: twold: temperature is not that difficult a concept ;)
Yamaxanadu [-\]: o3 or r6?
Narayana [5k\]: wohoo I was right
oonicks [-\]: or d3
Iktrionic [1k\]: how's the weather in Prague btw ?
Excalibor [-\]: well, it depends on the Collectivity you define
twold [1k\]: not for me, it sure isn't :-)
Prague2010 [-\]: ondrej adjusts m14 a bit
Excalibor [-\]: i some, temperature can't even be defiend ;-)
Javaness [2d\]: tell him to stop fidgetting
Yamaxanadu [-\]: Now Prague has to use the edit tool ;o
leachy [6k\]: if i look up a chess opening encyclopaedia i can find all kinds of openings thought not good with lots of variations but look at a joseki dictionary and you find only some of the moves that players of all levels might try or might one day come into vogue
gogonuts [5d\]: b slightly ahead i think
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;B[hc]C[Narayana [5k\]: OoOo
Yamaxanadu [-\]: He said the c-word! D:
Hernee [2d\]: leachy, of course it's redundant, as there's nothing else to compare our josekis than our present best understanding of what variation is good and what's not
snowman [-\]: this was not necessary
twold [1k\]: is this the tesuji we were all waiting for? :-)
Excalibor [-\]: maybe q4 was a coffee break for Danek?
gogonuts [5d\]: no problem for w there
snowman [-\]: bloody amateurs
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;W[ib]C[gogonuts [5d\]: b has a somewhat annoying style :-)
Yamaxanadu [-\]: snowman is cold >.>
Iktrionic [1k\]: -.-
Narayana [5k\]: b is nervous fighter
norgkost [4k\]: yeah, that's THE annoying style :)
rmod [-\]: b h14?
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;B[hf]C[twold [1k\]: what now? push one more time then jump out?
twold [1k\]: he's playing too fast >_<
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;W[hg]
;B[ig]C[Nose [6k\]: or reading very fast
Yamaxanadu [-\]: Heh... a nose is 6k... 
Yamaxanadu [-\]: I wonder what my nose is at...
norgkost [4k\]: lol
norgkost [4k\]: what would black respond if white h15 ?
rmod [-\]: w g15?
Prague2010 [-\]: i wish someone would bring me tea
CardiffGo [4k\]: I think so
Hernee [2d\]: J14?
Prague2010 [-\]: javaness, can you help?
snowman [-\]: Gogol's Nose was a highly positinioned civil cervant
Yamaxanadu [-\]: Hi Javaness
Hernee [2d\]: J14 seems like the obvious move
gogonuts [5d\]: maybe just h12
Hernee [2d\]: Hmm... True, h12 right away prolly better
snowman [-\]: J14 first, whatever comes
norgkost [4k\]: i don't like white's shape now :(
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;W[gg]C[norgkost [4k\]: ok now i like
snowman [-\]: so weak
norgkost [4k\]: is it? all connected, many liberties
Hernee [2d\]: Snowman, you're taking this way too seriously
gogonuts [5d\]: k14?
rmod [-\]: he is dying winter is over. This is the one of the last games he will ever see
snowman [-\]: they are playing a tournament game on a may day, and i can't take this kibitz seriously???
Nose [6k\]: depends on your attitude :-)
oonicks [-\]: if b is a worker he should strive for more liberty's
oonicks [-\]: j14 then
Hernee [2d\]: I bet it's not J14!
Prague2010 [-\]: i'd play j14
Hernee [2d\]: Me too
Hernee [2d\]: That's why I'm so certain
snowman [-\]: that point seems to escape our players
greenkite [4k\]: j15?
lazzy [8k?\]: noone thinking about h15?
oonicks [-\]: i think j14 is correct becus i wudnt dare to play it:/
Prague2010 [-\]: ondrej is thinking hard...
Narayana [5k\]: thats his problem, overthinking
Prague2010 [-\]: i wonder :D
gryn [1k\]: I'm pretty sure he is thinking of his hot date last nigh.
twold [1k\]: he will always have time not to think when he's in byoyomi ;-)
Hernee [2d\]: Too bad here are few strong kibitzers. It's fun when/if kibitzers repeatedly disagree with players and every kibitzer is like 5 stones weaker than the players :>
gryn [1k\]: Ah, that's possible, he is just waiting for his adrenaline.
rmod [-\]: lol adrenaline from go
lazzy [8k?\]: how much time elapsed for both players?
snowman [-\]: ondrej is probably regretting the last night or planning some foul for tonight
gryn [1k\]: Hernee, it's kinda sadly amusing that you think we are unable to form valid opinions and critiques :P
greenkite [4k\]: enough to fall asleep
oonicks [-\]: w like 5 minutes more left
norgkost [4k\]: rmod you never get nervous during a game? that's just sad
Hernee [2d\]: rmod, it's quite annoying actually, can't sit still if your veins are full of that hormone
rmod [-\]: Go is just a game not my life
Hernee [2d\]: Everything gets kinda blurry, and you'd wish you could make your moves better by slamming stones harder
oonicks [-\]: k15 mayb
gryn [1k\]: I'm normally only axious online, in real life it's just a game.
Hernee [2d\]: Doesn't really do good for your performance
norgkost [4k\]: that's not even an argument
gryn [1k\]: anxious*
Iktrionic [1k\]: lol gryn, me too
gryn [1k\]: :)
twold [1k\]: same here
cloudo [3k\]: what means that word?
snowman [-\]: adrenaline is an important part of the game
norgkost [4k\]: hmm, appears i'm the only one here with shaking hands during play :) i take my arguments back ^^
Hernee [2d\]: gryn, I said the very opposite of that. I never claimed people not capable of forming opinions and critiqyes
leachy [6k\]: h15 no?
gryn [1k\]: hernee, ok, i'm sorry i read too much into it.
twold [1k\]: norgkost, happens to me often, but only online :-)
oonicks [-\]: no its j14
oonicks [-\]: ltr
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;B[ih]C[Hernee [2d\]: See!
Prague2010 [-\]: finally
Hernee [2d\]: Not J14. I'm a prophet!
gryn [1k\]: all bow down to hernee!
twold [1k\]: j14 sucked obviously :-D
snowman [-\]: that point is cursed
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;W[hi]C[Hernee [2d\]: This is awesome :D
norgkost [4k\]: ok, gg to all, time to go for me
norgkost [4k\]: bye
gryn [1k\]: night
twold [1k\]: i predict it will never get played :-)
Hernee [2d\]: I predict they play T1 before J14
bert [2d\]: h15 works now
gryn [1k\]: i'll take both of your bets
cloudo [3k\]: b will protect it now
snowman [-\]: maybe the move to resign :)
twold [1k\]: three stones are dead anyway, right? maybe i missed something again... :-)
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;B[he]C[twold [1k\]: hm...
Prague2010 [-\]: makes a move and scuttles off
Nose [6k\]: hm, this way black leads in territory
MoeTheDoom [6k\]: j14 ?
twold [1k\]: j14 k14 j15 k16
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;W[ei]C[gryn [1k\]: please know your nets
Hernee [2d\]: Nose, I think this is still way too soon to be talking about territory. Most of the board is unmarked, and this fight and all the aji that goes into it determines what happens with rest of the board
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;B[ic]C[gryn [1k\]: but he is right that black has more cash.
gryn [1k\]: evaluating the rest of the board position, i think white is free to do what he likes
Hernee [2d\]: Relevance of that would be higher if the players only would finish fuseki first :/
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;W[jb]
;B[ii]C[Prague2010 [-\]: i think this fight went well for black
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;W[hj]C[gryn [1k\]: hernee, it does matter, in this game, it's more of a fact, white needs to remember when choosing the rest of the fights.
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;B[ij]
;W[jf]C[gryn [1k\]: hehehe
Hernee [2d\]: Fuseki first!!
Hernee [2d\]: J14!!
twold [1k\]: oh noes
gryn [1k\]: you both just lost your bets :)
gryn [1k\]: pay up.
twold [1k\]: t1, quick
Hernee [2d\]: It can't be
snowman [-\]: no territory for white, but that's how it was from the first joseki
Hernee [2d\]: B is thinking...
gryn [1k\]: come on j14!
Hernee [2d\]: Maybe it won't be played after all?
gryn [1k\]: you can do it!
twold [1k\]: so, what did we bet gryn? :-)
Javaness [2d\]: black is such a thief
gryn [1k\]: twold hmm
gryn [1k\]: i guess we forgot that part
twold [1k\]: what a shame
gryn [1k\]: well pay up anyway :)
twold [1k\]: sure. here you go :-)
gryn [1k\]: danke
twold [1k\]: bitte
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;B[if]C[Prague2010 [-\]: sorry
]
;W[ik]C[gryn [1k\]: you too hernee :)
Hernee [2d\]: Oh my... J14
snowman [-\]: \\o/
Hernee [2d\]: Here you go
gryn [1k\]: thanks
bert [2d\]: cut cut cut
Nose [6k\]: I have to admit, that black group does not look very strong
gryn [1k\]: cutting is good for your health!
snowman [-\]: J14: please resign
twold [1k\]: omg, 9p. i'ma gonna faint
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;B[hk]C[gryn [1k\]: yesh
Hernee [2d\]: k9 
Hernee [2d\]: Naturally
]
;W[fj]C[Prague2010 [-\]: Vlada gives Ondrej a Look as he plays this move
]
;B[hl]
;W[jk]C[gryn [1k\]: i hope they are not playing footsie
Hernee [2d\]: This is crazy
Hernee [2d\]: This is madness!
gryn [1k\]: "our house... in the middle of the street"
snowman [-\]: danek always gets irritated with my folding fan flapping...
gryn [1k\]: must be pretty loud to hear over the internet.
Javaness [2d\]: maybe you shouldn't slap him in the face with your fan
]
;B[fl]C[snowman [-\]: /snowman slaps danek around a bit with a large javaness
]
;W[ci]C[zombocom [4d\]: this fight is good for white
Prague2010 [-\]: ondrej is frowning again
]
;B[eg]C[Prague2010 [-\]: i think black doing fine though
Prague2010 [-\]: why is the fight good for w?
snowman [-\]: black is going to win, for sure
zombocom [4d\]: B will eventually run on dame: m11 o11 while W will get a moyo
gryn [1k\]: i think this is good for black since white is not getting any (except k9) influence out of it.
]
;W[fh]C[cloudo [3k\]: board looks good for b overall imo
Prague2010 [-\]: both players are inspecting the board carefully
gryn [1k\]: black hopefully has a plan for quick life though...
Prague2010 [-\]: white is smiling slightly
cloudo [3k\]: lol
cloudo [3k\]: this is soup opera
gryn [1k\]: mmm soup.
cloudo [3k\]: ^^
cloudo [3k\]: soap, okok
gryn [1k\]: no way
gryn [1k\]: soup is tastier
gryn [1k\]: don't make me trade...
Prague2010 [-\]: black has ten minutes left
]
;B[li]
;W[dl]
;B[dj]
;W[di]
;B[dm]
;W[cm]
;B[dn]
;W[cl]
;B[jp]C[Prague2010 [-\]: black grimaces
snowman [-\]: K4 might be enough, though it's not the best move
twold [1k\]: what is?
snowman [-\]: hah, are you talking to me?
twold [1k\]: yeah ^^
]
;W[jn]C[Prague2010 [-\]: what a move
Prague2010 [-\]: ondrej tightens his lips
Prague2010 [-\]: but starts smiling now
]
;B[ho]C[snowman [-\]: any funny smell around
dutch2dan [1d\]: haha Vesa
zombocom [4d\]: l11 
snowman [-\]: ah, edgar, you remember terschelling
dutch2dan [1d\]: I do, why?
snowman [-\]: we met there for the first time, neh?
dutch2dan [1d\]: we did indeed
dutch2dan [1d\]: 9th round, iifc
dutch2dan [1d\]: **iirc
]
;W[fo]C[snowman [-\]: 2,5 points?
dutch2dan [1d\]: :(
Prague2010 [-\]: b five minutes left
]
;B[dq]C[Hernee [2d\]: F5 is an invasion? What is this game?
Prague2010 [-\]: ;)
]
;W[eq]C[Hernee [2d\]: After every passing minute it is making even sense than it did earlier. And I don't see this series converging in infinity.
]
;B[ep]
;W[dp]C[gryn [1k\]: they fight, they bite, they fight they bite they bite... fight fight fight... bite bite bite...
]
;B[cq]C[Hernee [2d\]: So complicated :/
]
;W[fp]
;B[gq]
;W[hn]C[Prague2010 [-\]: b has last minute before byoyomi
Prague2010 [-\]: then he will have 30s per move
Prague2010 [-\]: white still has 20 minutes left
]
;B[gn]
;W[go]C[snowman [-\]: i would call it a game and go for a drink
Prague2010 [-\]: ^^
gryn [1k\]: black's game? :)
]
;B[hp]C[gryn [1k\]: i think that's the problem, deciding who's?
Javaness [2d\]: did i die everywhere?
gryn [1k\]: whose*
gryn [1k\]: e7?
Prague2010 [-\]: ondrej went over to watch second board finish playing
]
;W[gm]
;B[in]
;W[fn]
;B[im]
;W[em]
;B[er]
;W[eo]
;B[fq]
;W[mk]
;B[qn]
;W[kj]C[Hernee [2d\]: B has more cash
]
;B[mh]
;W[oh]
;B[je]
;W[pl]
;B[on]
;W[np]
;B[rp]
;W[qm]C[Prague2010 [-\]: wow
]
;B[pm]
;W[ql]
;B[qq]C[cloudo [3k\]: j14 alive?
]
;W[rn]
;B[ro]C[Hernee [2d\]: s5? What?
Narayana [5k\]: w was too relaxed early on ;)
snowman [-\]: you mean the first joseki :)
cloudo [3k\]: whats wrong with s5?
]
;W[qo]
;B[pn]
;W[kp]
;B[kq]C[Hernee [2d\]: seems quite forceful
]
;W[rm]
;B[pq]
;W[lp]
;B[jo]
;W[op]
;B[ln]C[Prague2010 [-\]: curiously, there's much larger crowd around third board than the first one
]
;W[or]C[Prague2010 [-\]: the Hora-Podpera match is probably quite something
]
;B[rr]C[Prague2010 [-\]: ah, they counted
Prague2010 [-\]: Hora won by 5.5
]
;W[jq]C[zombocom [4d\]: W n6 soon
Prague2010 [-\]: both are in byoyomi here now
Prague2010 [-\]: black lost a period
]
;B[jr]C[Javaness [2d\]: careless
Prague2010 [-\]: intentionally :)
]
;W[lq]
;B[kr]C[Prague2010 [-\]: black seems unsatisfied
]
;W[nn]C[Prague2010 [-\]: oh i expected n6 instead too
]
;B[nm]
;W[mm]
;B[mn]
;W[ki]C[snowman [-\]: not much counting here
]
;B[kf]C[Prague2010 [-\]: ondrej is tired
]
;W[no]
;B[ml]
;W[kg]
;B[jg]
;W[lm]
;B[ll]C[Prague2010 [-\]: how is this gonna work out for w?
]
;W[km]
;B[kl]C[snowman [-\]: arimasen
]
;W[nl]C[Prague2010 [-\]: black re-reads
]
;B[om]C[Namii [-\]: W might be aiming to kill J13
Namii [-\]: There's a lot of forcing moves
Prague2010 [-\]: i don't think you can kill that?
Prague2010 [-\]: atmost split m11
]
;W[ke]C[Prague2010 [-\]: hm
Prague2010 [-\]: really
]
;B[id]C[Namii [-\]: Well now J16 simple lives
Namii [-\]: simply
Prague2010 [-\]: should p8 i guess
]
;W[jf]C[Namii [-\]: J16 would have been the daredevil move there I think
]
;B[kd]
;W[lr]
;B[oq]
;W[nq]C[Prague2010 [-\]: over very soon?
]
;B[pr]C[maligo [4d\]: n5 o1 
]
;W[os]
;B[kh]C[snowman [-\]: it depends on danek's mood tonight
]
;W[qf]
;B[ol]
;W[dr]
;B[ep]
;W[db]
;B[ab]C[Prague2010 [-\]: ondrej consulted the ceiling for a while
]
;W[eq]
;B[cr]C[Narayana [5k\]: talking to it?
Prague2010 [-\]: just lookin'
]
;W[re]C[krikri [1d\]: už jsem dlouho nehrál go ale není tohle hi level prasení od vládi ?:D 
]
;B[rd]C[Prague2010 [-\]: ;)
]
;W[mo]
;B[kn]C[zombocom [4d\]: o6 was a disaster
]
;W[ir]C[zombocom [4d\]: should have been n6
]
;B[iq]
;W[js]C[Prague2010 [-\]: ho hum
]
;B[pj]
;W[qj]
;B[ks]
;W[ls]
;B[is]
;W[bp]
;B[cp]
;W[bg]
;B[bf]C[Prague2010 [-\]: hm
Prague2010 [-\]: i lost them :(
]
;W[bo]
;B[fk]
;W[el]
;B[gc]
;W[gb]C[Prague2010 [-\]: hopei have them back
]
;B[ps]C[Prague2010 [-\]: *** WHITE RESIGNS
Prague2010 [-\]: thank you all for watching :)
gryn [1k\]: thank you
Eridor [11k\]: thanks
Prague2010 [-\]: we will be back tomorrow morning
krikri [1d\]: diky psky
krikri [1d\]: pasky
Narayana [5k\]: thank you
Prague2010 [-\]: for two last rounds :)
Prague2010 [-\]: so see you and good evening to all of you! :)
Domgo [4k\]: la partie est long...
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